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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray, our UK correspondents with US say, Kevin good

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Speaker 1: evening her happy budget day. Are you looking forward to it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not so sure. It's seemed so widely tryed

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Speaker 2: and you know, in the past nobody would say anything

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Speaker 2: about the budget until it was delivered to Parliament. This

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Speaker 2: one's seen so many leeks. I'm not sure anything new

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Speaker 2: will be coming up. Indeed, the Chancellor, the first ever

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Speaker 2: female chancellor and the first Labor Chancellor for fourteen years,

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Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves, was ticked off by the Leader of the

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Speaker 2: Commons for talking to journalists in America about her budget,

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Speaker 2: saying it was a supreme discourtesy to the House and

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Speaker 2: she was very very disappointed. Well, what do we expect.

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Speaker 2: I think we expect tax rises now all along, people

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Speaker 2: have been told this will not affect working people was

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Speaker 2: what the government was saying. But these tax rises are

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Speaker 2: going to affect somebody. So who and who is not

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Speaker 2: a working person is the question, and that has yet

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Speaker 2: really to be answered sig by anyone in the Labor Party.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to see an increase in inheritance tax,

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Speaker 2: that's the tax on amounts left when somebody dies and

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Speaker 2: left to their loved ones. I think a capital gains tax.

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Speaker 2: Capital gains is when you make an investment or sell

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Speaker 2: a share, sell a second home, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: I think that tax is going to increase, and I

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Speaker 2: think we may see thresholds at which tax is paid

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Speaker 2: kept the same. And of course, because prices and inflation

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Speaker 2: is going up, that effectively is a tax increase. But

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Speaker 2: all of these are we don't know, they haven't been confirmed.

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Speaker 2: What we do know is the national minimum wage is

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Speaker 2: to go up, and that is putting a lot of

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Speaker 2: pressure on small businesses who say that they are already

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Speaker 2: really struggling to make ends meet.

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Speaker 1: And so what exactly where is this money going to

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Speaker 1: be primarily.

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Speaker 2: Directed supposedly into a forty four billion pound black hole

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Speaker 2: in the country's finances. Now, the previous government says that

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Speaker 2: is just nonsense. We didn't leave a black hole like that.

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Speaker 2: So this is just an excuse for the Labor Party

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Speaker 2: to come up with these things in order to hit

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Speaker 2: the rich or people that it deems to be rich,

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Speaker 2: to hit people it deems not to be working class.

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Speaker 2: And as I said, trying to find that and therefore

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Speaker 2: lots of people I think pretty fed up at the

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Speaker 2: idea that they are going to be hammered for working hard,

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Speaker 2: having savings, paying into a pension and now might get

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Speaker 2: hammered again by a new party.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what are we expecting from this teenager that the

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Speaker 1: one who was accused of murdering the three girls appearing

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Speaker 1: in court today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be very significant. So you're

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Speaker 2: remember back in July, three young girls were killed at

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Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift dance themed party in the northwest of England.

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Speaker 2: In Southward the end of July, the eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: who's accused of murdering those three girls was due in

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Speaker 2: court and now it's going to be in court today

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Speaker 2: charged with two more offenses, one of them about the

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Speaker 2: fact that he was allegedly manufacturing ricin, a biological toxin

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Speaker 2: and very poisonous, and also that he had or had

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Speaker 2: in possession of an Islamic state sort of a booklet

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Speaker 2: on how to commit atrocities. Those are the new crimes

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Speaker 2: that he faces. And plenty of people saying, well, hang

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Speaker 2: on a minute, this happened in July, the murder. You

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Speaker 2: searched his property in July. We find out right at

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Speaker 2: the end of October. Now that actually this is being

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Speaker 2: looked at potentially as a terrorism incident. They've come back

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Speaker 2: and said no, no, no, it's not terrorism because we

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Speaker 2: don't know his motive. Well, as you can imagine, there

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Speaker 2: are some in the former party government who was saying,

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Speaker 2: hang on a minute, there are serious questions here. Has

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Speaker 2: this government deliberately concealed this terrorism link because of course

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Speaker 2: we did have several weeks of rioting after these murders

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Speaker 2: took place, with people so concerned about migration in this country.

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Speaker 1: Gevin, do we have any idea this console that was

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Speaker 1: used to record Abbey Road? Any idea how much is

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Speaker 1: this going to go for at auction today?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a very good question. It's a one off,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure, and that makes it rather difficult to

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Speaker 2: actually put a price on. But this was a console

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Speaker 2: that I was used by the Beatles to record Abby Road,

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Speaker 2: that wonderful album of Theirs, which of course has been

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Speaker 2: in and out of the charts for decades. And the

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Speaker 2: console was given or donated to a school, but the

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Speaker 2: school then threw it out and it was only rescued

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Speaker 2: from a skip by an absolute Well, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be harsh, but a techno file who absolutely loves

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Speaker 2: these things. The project was started for it to be

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Speaker 2: referbed to make it work again and indeed, using expertise

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Speaker 2: around the UK it is. As for the price, well

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Speaker 2: it's got to be several several thousand pounds, but it's

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Speaker 2: a very one off thing to try and put a

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Speaker 1: Very interesting stuff, Kevin, thank you really pretty to Gavin

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Speaker 1: gray are UK correspondent. Interesting defense in our court, speaking

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Speaker 1: of course, interesting defense in our court. Was it today?

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Speaker 1: I think it was today. It's about look, if it's

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Speaker 1: not today, it was yesterday. It was in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days. About why somebody has committed a crime

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Speaker 1: and why rugby is the excuse for it. So this

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Speaker 1: is the case of a former mary All Blacks player,

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Speaker 1: Mutawa Parkinson, who bought guns and then on sold these guns,

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Speaker 1: brought them from gun City and then on sold them

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Speaker 1: to an alleged associate of the common Cero's who he

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Speaker 1: already knew, and then he pretended to cover his tracks

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Speaker 1: a few months later that the guns had all been

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Speaker 1: nicked from his house. Because he had a gun license,

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Speaker 1: he had a gun safe, so he had to explain

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Speaker 1: where the guns were. So he pretended that they'd been nicked,

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Speaker 1: and he'd faked a burglary and got paid out for

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Speaker 1: it by the insurance company. But then he got busted

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Speaker 1: because what he'd said was that how they had nicked

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Speaker 1: the guns. They had nicked the guns was that the

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Speaker 1: gun safe, which was bolted to the floor, had simply

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Speaker 1: been ripped out of the house. But then when he

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Speaker 1: looked at the new gun safe that he bought to

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Speaker 1: replace that gun safe, they realized, man, it's actually still

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Speaker 1: the old gun safe, and there's no indication it had

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Speaker 1: been ripped out of the floor at all anyway, So

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Speaker 1: he's been payed for it today and sentence today. His

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Speaker 1: lawyer argued that he wasn't making any good decisions around them.

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Speaker 1: Clearly he wasn't making good decisions, but the reason he

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Speaker 1: wasn't making good decisions was because he had played more

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Speaker 1: than seven hundred games of rugby and quote, he's taken

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Speaker 1: quite a few knocks to the head over the years,

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Speaker 1: and this is clearly not a person who was thinking

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Speaker 1: about what he's doing. So that's a good one for

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Speaker 1: you if like that. Literally, most men and a lot

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Speaker 1: of women in this country probably taken a fair few

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Speaker 1: knocks to the head the old rugby games, and if

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Speaker 1: you've done enough of those, you could probably excuse them

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Speaker 1: of bad behavior. Sentence today discounts for remorse, amend's previous

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Speaker 1: good character guilty plea, and background factors which I assume

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Speaker 1: must be the head knocks, And so he received an

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Speaker 1: end sentence of nine months on home d here you go,

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Speaker 1: good one to have up your sleep if you end

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Speaker 1: up in court.

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