1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hear the duplessy Ellen, we have a twist in the 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: case of John and Mike Beckenridge's mysterious disappearance all those 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: years ago. A hearing is being held in christ Huge 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: this week. Now. This is two years after the initial 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: coronial hearing. Analiska is the Herald senior crime reporter. She's 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: been at the hearing and is with us. Now, Hey, Hannah, Hi, Heather. Okay, 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: so this new we have avid evidence as a chap 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: who reckons that his cousin helped the pair escape. Is 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: that right? 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Yes, We're going to hear more from this guy this week. 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: But apparently he told his cousin that he had helped 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: them and that they were alive, and that was reported 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: to police, we understand in sort of mid last year 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: and was investigated and is now back before the coroner. 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: Why has it taken so long to be reported? I mean, 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: this case has made headlines for years now. 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, well, I think we'll hear a bit more 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: about that this week. We're expecting to hear from the 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: guy who's allegedly said this and the people who said 20 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: it too. And I think that's one of the big 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: questions that we'll be asked, is why you know it 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: came out when it did? You know, we'll also hear 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: from another family, Remember about the dynamic between these two people. 24 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be quite interesting hearing 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: the two sides and seeing what the coroner makes. 26 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Of it ultimately what do we hope to get from this? 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Like what is the coroner going to ultimately rule? Do 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: you think? 29 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: Look, the inquest was in twenty twenty three, and I 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: think that you know, this coming out, the coron has 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: got to have a look at it and see where 32 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: he can take it from here, if anywhere, you know, 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: obviously this is an exercise and getting everyone to the table, 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: you know, seeing who's saying what and what the veracity 35 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: is these claims and whether they can it can go 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: anywhere Another police have looked into it, and we'll hear 37 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: more about that in the next couple of days as well. So, Yeah, 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting I think for everyone 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: to sort of hear this new information. But they're definitely 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: interesting for us to hear it this morning that there 41 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: was new evidence that. 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Was going to be tabled. Yeah, and have we got 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: anywhere closer to understanding whether this car could have actually 44 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: gone off the cliff without a driver. 45 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had an independent engineering expert who gave evidence today. 46 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: Now his evidence was sought I think sort of mid 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. They wanted to find someone that could 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: really really speak to you, an independent person to speak 49 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: to this. The police obviously are saying that no way 50 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: could have gone off without someone in it. This expert 51 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: today said that from what he's seen of the scene, 52 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: from the evidence there, there is no evidence that somebody 53 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: jumped out of the car at the last minute. He 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: said that, you know, to rig a car to go 55 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: over in the straight line that it did off that 56 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: cliff would take quite some if at an expense, there's 57 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: no evidence of that, and that, you know, his version 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: of events is the probability is very likely that there 59 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: was someone behind the wheel when that car went over. However, 60 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: the steering wheel and the brake pedal were never recovered, 61 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: so you know, it's a lot of We know that 62 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: the car was in an absolute state when they found it. 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: The bodies were not in the car, you know. So 64 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: we're looking at expert evidence of what could and couldn't 65 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: have happened, But whether we'll ever really know not sure. 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, might be one of those. Hey Anna, thanks very much, 67 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Analyask The Herald's senior crime reporter for more 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news talks 69 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio