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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Veda Retirement, Communities, Life,

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Speaker 1: Your Way News, togs Head, be Morning and welcome today.

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Speaker 2: We have moved from courts so where the backlog has

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Speaker 2: been cut. So the Grocery Commissioner has a couple of

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Speaker 2: new ideas to make you trolley cheap. In New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: from Supercows ahead of purpose Weekend Joes and Italy for us,

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Speaker 2: Rod does the Mighty UK Pasca and we're underway. Seven

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Speaker 2: past six. This polling industry, whose only answer to fairly

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Speaker 2: obvious question seems to be oh, this is just a

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Speaker 2: snapshot in time, may have trouble explaining the past twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours of polling in this country. One Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: one Wednesday morning, right have completely different results. One has

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Speaker 2: Luxton the most popular leader. One has Hopkins as the

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Speaker 2: most popular leader. One has National leading Labor, one has

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Speaker 2: Labour leading National. One has the current government as the

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Speaker 2: current government. One has a new government with current government out.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't get a lot more contrasting than that. Even

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Speaker 2: if you accept a lot of the numbers are titish.

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Speaker 2: Some of the numbers aren't even within the margin of era.

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Speaker 2: It's almost just thoh, the poles aren't accurate. It's almost

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Speaker 2: as though you could ring up a thousand people and

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Speaker 2: get one answer, then ring up another thousand people and

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Speaker 2: get a completely different answer. And if you can do that,

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Speaker 2: why would you pay money to people who will tell

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Speaker 2: you these things mean anything? TV and Zaid I guess

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Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand, who seemed to have taken over from

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Speaker 2: TV three, use our money, taxpayers money, And given they've

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Speaker 2: just had a budget cut, and given they're losing their

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Speaker 2: audience at a rate of knots, I'm not sure this

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Speaker 2: can be classed as quality expenditure. I went to their

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Speaker 2: website yesterday. The headline was what the Poles are telling

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Speaker 2: us in seven charts, and there they were lots of color,

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Speaker 2: lots of lines and ups and downs and squiggles. But

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Speaker 2: I already knew, given I had seen the charts from

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Speaker 2: the night before, that either their charts meant nothing, or

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Speaker 2: if they did mean something, then the other guy's charts

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Speaker 2: weren't up to much or quite possibly, if we did

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Speaker 2: the charade for a third time, they would both be

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Speaker 2: exposed as having shonky numbers. Ah, but they're only a

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Speaker 2: snapshot in time, except given they were done at the

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Speaker 2: same time, they aren't are they? So what are they

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Speaker 2: other than a very large waste of time and money.

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Speaker 3: News of the World in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: Number nine other meeting over the war in Europe. This

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Speaker 2: involves a lot of good promises and positive noise. We

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Speaker 2: delivered to Ukraine ten thousand drones last year.

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Speaker 3: We'll increase that tenfold this year.

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Speaker 2: Germans, with their new government, rekindled their vigor.

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Speaker 4: Produced by your defense industry, these systems will quickly be

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Speaker 4: in the hands of your armed forces even before.

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Speaker 5: The end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well the Ukrainians, so that turns expensive.

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Speaker 6: Our partners said that they are willing to fully pay

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Speaker 6: for all the production from these factories, and that our

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Speaker 2: To the other war, where the Israelis continue to run

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Speaker 2: their line that none of anything is their fault, especially

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Speaker 2: that but will they shoot people?

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Speaker 7: Our troops diligently issued warning shots, and as some of

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Speaker 7: the suspects continued despite these warning shots, advancing towards the

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Speaker 7: troops in a threatening manner.

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Speaker 2: Then in the Commons labor of view turned on winter heating,

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Speaker 2: which wasn't at all contray visual or humiliating.

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Speaker 8: Today the Chancellor is rushing her plans because she just

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Speaker 8: realized when winter is so on, behalf of the pensioners,

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Speaker 8: how many of the ten million people who lost their

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Speaker 8: winter fuel payments will get it.

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Speaker 9: Back by Minister Well, I'm glad to see she's catching

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Speaker 9: up with what happened two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Then on the hill, the Senate Budget folks, they're having

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Speaker 2: a word with everyone's favorite Commerce Secretary Lutnik.

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Speaker 10: I just thought, you know, a terrorist attack on an

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Speaker 10: America a great American stock seemed to require a response

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Speaker 11: I think probably you would agree that Secretary of Commerce

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Speaker 11: probably should not often be offering suggestions on stock purchases.

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Speaker 2: He was spooking Tesla again. Healthy news or just health news.

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Speaker 2: National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey. We've got done it

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Speaker 2: from twenty eight thousand people. So it's a lot. If

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Speaker 2: you follow a calorie restrictive diet, especially if you're a

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Speaker 2: The quality of the diet seems to be the key.

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Speaker 2: So the more ultra process, the more fat more process. Generally,

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Speaker 2: you know salami, let's a refined shooters. That's depression on

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Speaker 2: a plate. Apparently, what you need is the mid diet

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Speaker 2: Mediterranean diet balance it out. So if you want to

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Speaker 2: lose weight, to do it gradually or uses in the

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Speaker 2: count of you to use the world in ninety By

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Speaker 2: the way, Trump's had another phone call with Putin. Putin

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Speaker 2: says he's going after Zelenski after what happened the other day,

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Speaker 2: which is hardly surprising. So the thing went out on

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Speaker 2: truth Social but then it got deleted because he probably

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Speaker 2: didn't want to let the world know that Zelenski and

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Speaker 2: was going to be in trouble anyway, the point being,

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Speaker 2: he says he spoke with Putin for over an hour.

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Speaker 2: It was good conversation, but not a conversation that will

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Speaker 2: lead to immediate peace, So that's going nowhere. We also

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Speaker 2: discussed Iran, which is equally seemingly going nowhere. So not

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Speaker 2: a good day at the office for old Donald. Twelve

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Speaker 2: past six.

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Speaker 1: how it by news talks be.

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Speaker 2: So the phone call didn't go that well. From then

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Speaker 2: he got the job's numbers, the big job numbers coming

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Speaker 2: sector of the job numbers in the US economy not

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Speaker 2: good at all. Thirty seven thousand jobs for May that

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Speaker 2: expected about one hundred and thirty, So that's a negative.

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Speaker 2: To which point he said, Pale needs to cut into space.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think Pale's listening either. Fourteen pass joy

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Speaker 2: my will Andrew Keller had good morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: So there is growth to be found in them red

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Speaker 5: It, not much, not much.

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Speaker 6: The lucky country is scrabbling for growth. And you sort

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Speaker 6: of got to put this into context. Make You've got

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Speaker 5: Are expecting the RBA to cut the cash rate.

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Speaker 6: Sitting at three point eight five, they're looking for drop

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Speaker 6: the old GDP per capita. Well, the negative GDP per

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Speaker 6: look like the Aussies are being sort of quite cautious, Mike.

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Speaker 6: If I look at their household incomes, real household incomes,

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Speaker 6: they're growing faster than consumer spending. So they're obviously being

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Speaker 2: Well, you would hope so. And then again to that backdrop,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is quite I thought this was quite interesting

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Speaker 6: because if you're brave, you can now invest in Virgin

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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty, Virgin Airlines collapsed and it was scooped

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Speaker 5: Equity player, this bank capital.

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Speaker 6: Now they're releasing it back into the wilds of the

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Speaker 6: And you're dead right. There's not been many IPOs lately anywhere,

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Speaker 6: say Quantus, But the other thing, Mike isn't aside. This

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Speaker 5: Conditions you want when you launch an IPO.

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Speaker 2: You want that tail when you are you're buying the market,

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Speaker 2: you're buying the story of the airline.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I suppose what it does is it just

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Speaker 6: gives you the tail when I think you've always got

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Speaker 6: to be We can't obviously give stock advice over the radio,

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Speaker 6: but I'm always a little suspicious of investing into airlines.

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Speaker 2: They are to travel mate if they do, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing it. Go for it, Go for it, right. What

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Speaker 6: happy about once lower interest rates. They also had I

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Speaker 6: The Dow Jones is up forty seven points forty two thousand,

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Speaker 2: University of Zurich, they have found what they're calling the

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Speaker 2: So it's an instrument shaped out of a human skull,

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Speaker 12: It, just like the as text did exactly.

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Speaker 2: They were the early three D printers, weren't they. I

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Speaker 2: this up this bitter be good. Sam, Sam's done this.

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Speaker 2: This from the sand. This from the Sam Karen School

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Speaker 12: This is from the Sam. Now just hear me out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, justiction here we are. This is the Aztec death

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Speaker 5: It's a drill.

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Speaker 2: Go down and get a makita do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, honey, let me just let me just drill

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Speaker 1: Use this next, the news and the news makers, the

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Speaker 2: Beth Whistle went well, got the attention to one of

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Speaker 2: my two dogs. Mike sounds like a girl screaming God.

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Speaker 2: This is horrible. Lives up to its name. So there

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Speaker 2: we go, Mike, excellent, You've just given me the name

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Speaker 2: of our Twilight Bowls team, the as Tac Death Whistlers.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Twenty three minutes away from seven, Macron

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Speaker 2: Maloney got together. Things seem to have gone well. We

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Speaker 2: on that shortly meantime. Back here, It's not like we

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Speaker 2: didn't warn you. We've got more insurance increases coming our way.

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Speaker 2: The government has a shortfall at the Natural Hazard's Commission,

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Speaker 2: Chris Farvoy is the boss of the insurance Counsel and

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Speaker 13: Good morning Mite.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't really your fault, is it.

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Speaker 13: No, it's not, but it is necessary and I think

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Speaker 13: So you know, it's one of those things we need

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Speaker 13: But at the same time people are finding things difficult

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Speaker 2: Doesn't make it easier for you because the more they

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Speaker 13: You look that they are aways going to pay out

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Speaker 13: a said amount, and so you know, making sure that

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Speaker 13: they've got enough money to pay that is obviously important.

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Speaker 13: If they didn't, then it would fall on the government,

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Speaker 13: so taxpayers would put the bill anyway, But before private

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Speaker 13: to pay out. So really in the way that that

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Speaker 13: the market is structured. That's really important that I think

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Speaker 13: that the thing here is obviously the impact on consumers themselves,

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Speaker 13: and from our perspective, when prices of premiums go up,

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Speaker 13: not having enough insurance to replace what they've got, but

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Speaker 2: Worst and New South Wales very closely where you're looking

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Speaker 2: at areas we're now in Australia where you can get

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Speaker 13: Oh look, I think if we look at risks across

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Speaker 13: seismic has always been there, then insurance are going to

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Speaker 13: make sure that we're doing as much as we can

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Speaker 13: to reduce the risk of flooding for some areas which

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Speaker 13: We've had a big wake up call a couple of

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Speaker 13: are we doing to get ahead of this? What infrastructure

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Speaker 13: can we build? Obviously prior signals are there as well,

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Speaker 13: how we build planning. You know, we've got to stop

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Speaker 13: building and done places. If we know they're going to

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Speaker 13: flood regularly, then let's stop doing that.

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Speaker 2: But that's the problem, isn't it. In places we are

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Speaker 2: still building, and that brings you it's too convoluted because

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Speaker 2: and then you've got local government of course, and they

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Speaker 2: do something and you go, we'll hold on. That's no

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Speaker 2: good and central government goes, no, we shouldn't do that,

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Speaker 13: Yeah, there's a lot at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 13: The government's looking at some work being led by a

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Speaker 13: climate change of Minister Simon Watts. When we've been party

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Speaker 13: to that. The banks and local government have been part

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Speaker 13: some reform of how we plan and decitisens we're making

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Speaker 13: think we've had generations of building and places where probably

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Speaker 13: hopefully we can get ahead of it at the moment

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Speaker 13: on the current setting, as we're just doing what we've

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Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you know, there's.

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Speaker 13: Big payouts from private insurance companies and governments to compensate

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Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, nice to catch up. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Chris barfoyx CEO Insurance Council of New Zealand, nineteen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from Sevenscargory Taylor Green from our gormless Moron file

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Speaker 2: this morning. Turns out she didn't read the big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 2: The big beautiful bill. They've crunched the numbers this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's going to add two point three trillion. Seems a

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Speaker 2: remarkable thing that a conservative would want to add to

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Speaker 2: the debt. But nevertheless, that's what it's come up at

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Speaker 2: two point three trillion. She didn't read the entirety of

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Speaker 2: the bill. She now claims if she had, she would

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Speaker 2: have voted against it. She was unaware of a specific

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Speaker 2: section that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems

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Speaker 2: for a decade. Full transparency. I did not know about

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Speaker 2: and it is a violation of state rights, and I

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Speaker 2: job read the effing bill. So things are going well there.

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Speaker 2: These are very good points and questions, Mike. Given I've

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Speaker 2: chosen not to live on a floodplaine or earthquake risk area,

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Speaker 2: will there'll be very few parts of the country that's

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Speaker 2: applicable to having paid a premium to do so. Is

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Speaker 2: it fair that my insurance bill goes up? Well, you

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Speaker 2: insurance bill won't necessarily go up specifically based on that

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Speaker 2: because premiums vary, but the government business is different, and

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Speaker 2: you make a not unfair point. And then we come

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Speaker 2: to the mic, this press secretary who's resigned. I wonder

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Speaker 2: why sometimes people are named and shown while others maintain

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Speaker 2: their privacy when accused of crimes such as rape and murder.

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Speaker 2: That's not a bad question, but there's a very simple

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Speaker 2: answer to that, and I'll come back in a short

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Speaker 2: in a second six forty.

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Speaker 14: Five international correspondence with's it Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 14: for New Zealand Business Litily mean.

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Speaker 2: Jim by Joe McKenna, Good morning to you, Good morning

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Speaker 2: mane right, let's do this one to teen my scale

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Speaker 2: of one to ten ten. They ended up holding hands

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Speaker 2: and dating one They hate each other Maloney and Macron.

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Speaker 2: How did that go?

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Speaker 9: Ooh?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's a tricky one to read this relationship, as we've

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Speaker 4: talked about in the past. But this meeting between Emmanuel

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Speaker 4: Macron and the Prime Minister Georgia Maloney was meant to

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Speaker 4: last an hour. It went for three hours. It was

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Speaker 4: a working dinner. So shall we give them a seven

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Speaker 4: out of ten?

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Speaker 2: I reckon that's not too bad. Were substantive matters covered.

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Speaker 2: Was anything decided or they just had dinner?

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Speaker 4: Well, they talked about Ukraine, illegal migration, tariffs, and European defense.

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Speaker 4: But an insider told me tonight that Maloney was basically

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Speaker 4: saying to the French president, what are you going to

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Speaker 4: do for us? So it sounded like she was coming

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Speaker 4: from a very strong position and looking for some economic

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Speaker 4: relationships there beyond these big issues that they'd talked about.

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Speaker 2: Where where do they have dinner? Do they do it

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Speaker 2: at the President's place or is she got a nice

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Speaker 2: place or what happens here?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think they did it at Palazzo Kidgi, which is

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Speaker 4: her official residence. Nice probably for security reasons as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Then we've got the Upper House who

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Speaker 2: have got what these security decrees? So protests, what are

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Speaker 2: they looking to achieve versus squatters? I mean, what are they?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's separate things, aren't they.

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Speaker 4: Well, I do think this is an indication of the

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Speaker 4: harder line that we see from Maloney's right wing coalition government.

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Speaker 4: So they're making it much more difficult for protesters to

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Speaker 4: block streets. There are new crimes against revolts in prisons

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Speaker 4: and migrant attention centers punishing acts of what they call

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Speaker 4: passive resistance and against people who do squash in private

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Speaker 4: property such as social housing.

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Speaker 10: So some.

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Speaker 4: Legal cover for actually this is quite interesting legal cover

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Speaker 4: protection for army or police office who are opposing these

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Speaker 4: protesters as well. So I think it's an indication of

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Speaker 4: this right wing government. We don't see or every day

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Speaker 4: what they're doing in terms of their harder liigne, but

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Speaker 4: this is certainly an indication of what the Maloney government's

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Speaker 4: on about.

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Speaker 2: And does this cause out cry or not.

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Speaker 4: There has been major protests across the country about this,

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Speaker 4: and certainly some pushback from the center left opposition, but

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Speaker 4: with the majority in the government, the Maloney government was

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Speaker 4: able to push that through quite easily.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got riff it now. It do explain

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Speaker 2: that I'm endlessly fascinated with a referenda. So you've got

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Speaker 2: five of them coming up. Are they binding or non binding?

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Speaker 2: In general? Do a lot of people turn up or not?

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Speaker 4: Well, generally they don't, and that's always a problem, as

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Speaker 4: we know with any kind of referendum. But the Prime

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Speaker 4: Minister has sparked outrage. She's saying she's not going to

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Speaker 4: vote these referenda were put forward by the center left,

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Speaker 4: and one of them is about reducing the time it

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Speaker 4: takes to become a citizen in Italy from ten years

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Speaker 4: to five. So she's certainly pushing back on that, and

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Speaker 4: she's saying she's going to vote informally, so we'll see

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Speaker 4: how that goes. I think the main issue is getting

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Speaker 4: people out to vote, especially when the sun shining and

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Speaker 4: it's nice and warm to way.

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Speaker 2: We've got in particular system here. If you drum up

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Speaker 2: ten percent of the voters in this country, so you

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Speaker 2: stand on a street corner and get people to sign

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Speaker 2: their names, and you get an next percent of the

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Speaker 2: registered voters, you can have a referendum, and the referendums

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Speaker 2: tied into the election, but it's non binding, so nothing happens.

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Speaker 2: Does anything ever happen out of any of these at

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Speaker 2: your place or not?

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Speaker 4: Well, since I've been here, I don't think any of

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Speaker 4: the referendum have been improved, So I must say I

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Speaker 4: don't really know the answer to that one, but they

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Speaker 4: certainly need fifty percent plus one to get a quorum.

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Speaker 2: Is spring there? Is it hot? Is it beautiful? The touristic?

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Speaker 4: It's getting lovely? And warm, and it's certainly a beautiful

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Speaker 4: beach weather this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, all right, go well, John McKenna in that, by

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Speaker 2: the way, just before we leave the euro Zone, Bulgaria

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Speaker 2: overnight has been given the sign off to join the Eurozone,

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Speaker 2: which is exciting. So suddenly it will be a group

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Speaker 2: of twenty one, not twenty had to meet civil criteria obviously,

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Speaker 2: so the European Commission and the European Central Bank has

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Speaker 2: a look at them, sizes them up, sees what sees,

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Speaker 2: what they're like or not like, and they've given them

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Speaker 2: the big TIXO. As of jan one next year, they're

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Speaker 2: in ten to seven.

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Speaker 3: The Mike asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News.

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Speaker 2: Togs the seven away from seven to the very good

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Speaker 2: question in a moment ago about this press secretary's gone

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Speaker 2: and quit and how come some people get named and

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Speaker 2: shamed and all that sort of stuff. Well, the answer

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Speaker 2: is relatively simple. The bloke hasn't been charged, and you

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Speaker 2: need a court involved in a process and you go

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Speaker 2: for name suppression, and given he hasn't been charged, he's

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Speaker 2: not going to court. There is a question mark as

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Speaker 2: to whether the Prime Minister should have been told sooner.

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Speaker 2: But given he's not going to court, he's just a

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Speaker 2: bloke who did something stupid and quit, so therefore he's

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Speaker 2: in the public domain. The thing that fascinates me and

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Speaker 2: Sammy and I were talking about this this morning was

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Speaker 2: we don't know him. Sam knows him? Do you know

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Speaker 2: him or not? Really, you don't really know him. You

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Speaker 2: work with him. I know of him. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: can't be in the Prime Minister's office and be in

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Speaker 2: this business without sort of Oh it's him, one of

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Speaker 2: those guys anyway. Point being, and this is just my

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Speaker 2: particular fascination with work ethic, which seems to have gone

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Speaker 2: down the drain in recent years in this country and

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Speaker 2: as far as I can work out right around the world.

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Speaker 2: But the point being, how is it that you're in

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's office. I mean, you're in the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister's office. For God's sake. I would have thought that

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Speaker 2: would be a relatively busy job, requiring quite a few

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Speaker 2: hours pretty much twenty four to seven. Some of us

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Speaker 2: work most of the hours of the day because that's

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Speaker 2: sort of the job we have. It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: It comes as a surprise to me that a person

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Speaker 2: who works in the Prime Minister's office, has got enough

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Speaker 2: time to wander off and do the extra curricula that

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Speaker 2: he allegedly was off doing.

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Speaker 12: And he's saying the Prime Minister in New Zealand, though, yeah,

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Speaker 12: it was not like a real country.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought it was a proper job. I

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Speaker 2: mean he was the deputy I couldn't remember what was

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Speaker 2: the title they gave him, the deputy chief fill in,

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Speaker 2: part time, third tier down the I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the hell it was. But anyway, the point being, if

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Speaker 2: you end up being in the Prime Minister's office, I

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Speaker 2: would have thought it was a seven day a week

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Speaker 2: job of not twenty four hours. I mean, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have your phone on silent like the guy at Heathrow,

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Speaker 2: would you. I mean that's the you wouldn't have your

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Speaker 2: phone on silent, far less be off. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: not passing any moral judgment. I'm just saying that from

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Speaker 2: a work point of view, there are too many people

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Speaker 2: slacking around these days, five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: For the ins and the ouse, it's the fiz with

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Speaker 3: business paper. Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Job data, who's earning, what, what's hot? What's not Seek

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Speaker 2: have done the numbers. They've crunched the numbers for us

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Speaker 2: this morning, we've got the top ten rolls that have

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Speaker 2: seen the fastest advertised salary growth in the past year.

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Speaker 2: So number ten marketing executive. He pays up ten percent

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Speaker 2: average at eighty one thousand dollars. That appealing to you, you

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Speaker 2: think in oh, yeah, Number nine maintenance technician, that means

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Speaker 2: you play with machinery a lot. You'll pays up over

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Speaker 2: ten percent ten point three I do, no, so, oh

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Speaker 2: it could be actually, yeah, it could be seventy two

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Is it a bit more than you? In

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Speaker 2: a little bit more than you? In technical head for

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Speaker 2: comms of tech companies, you pays up ten point three

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Speaker 2: percent average pays one hundred and fifty seve Is that

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Speaker 2: what you one hundred and fifty six, you're on big money?

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Speaker 2: Glenn one undred and fifty six. Therapist, that's what I do,

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Speaker 2: pays up ten point six percent, average pays ninety.

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Speaker 12: Five and a half million patients.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Project engineer, you're up ten points six averages one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one. Data analyst? Are your up eleven

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Speaker 2: point one percent? Average pays it says, yeah, that's exactly

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Speaker 2: what he does. Crunches the numbers. Ninety eight thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Data engineer, which is different to a data analyst, pays

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Speaker 2: up eleven point six you're earning one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: two grand. Systems administrate. These are all jobs. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know what they are. They just crap jobs that

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Speaker 2: have been invented.

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Speaker 12: It's like as you go up the lists, they're becoming

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Speaker 12: more or more opay exactly.

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Speaker 2: So, systems administrator, you're earning ninety seven k.

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Speaker 12: In what Jason does.

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Speaker 2: It could be he's up twelve percent. Security officer. See

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Speaker 2: I get that security officer, you're up almost thirteen percent.

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Speaker 2: You're earning fifty six grand. A yeah, that's crap money.

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Speaker 2: You need better money than that. Retail branch manager up

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Speaker 2: fifteen point three percent. So that's a response there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's a direct response to the industry not being able

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Speaker 2: to find good people. You've simply got to pay people more.

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Speaker 2: So you couldn't get anyone to stand behind a counter,

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Speaker 2: so you pay them fifteen point three percent more, and

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Speaker 2: you're averaging eighty four thousand dollars to stand behind account

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Speaker 2: Halle what No, we don't have any others.

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Speaker 15: No what.

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Speaker 2: No, they'll be coming you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 12: I think we're docking. You'll pay after.

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Speaker 2: It us for you. In a couple of moments, I

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Speaker 2: have good news from the courts. The Minister of will

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Speaker 2: be livers up to the news which is next.

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Speaker 3: The only report you need to start your day.

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Speaker 1: The mic casting Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local

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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial, and rural news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So I got some good news from

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Speaker 2: the court system. The backlog's being tackled in Auckland. It's

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Speaker 2: now down by twenty six percent. We got eleven percent reduction.

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Speaker 2: Nationwide jury trials have always also reduced by eight percent.

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Speaker 2: Nicole mcke's the Minister fore Courts and is with us. Nicole,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 9: Did you know?

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Speaker 16: Isn't it?

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Speaker 2: It is good news? Did you set targets and if

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Speaker 2: you did you meeting them or has this just happened?

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Speaker 16: Well? The target that we set as the act party

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Speaker 16: was to say we wanted to come in and look

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Speaker 16: after victims of crime. When we wanted to set a percentage,

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Speaker 16: it was very hard to do because we had these

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Speaker 16: weather events, we've had delays with COVID, and then we

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Speaker 16: found that when the courts got back up and running again,

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Speaker 16: the number of events or court appearances that a person

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Speaker 16: had also increased, so it was hard to set the percentage.

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Speaker 16: What the District Court, sorry, the District Court chief Justice

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Speaker 16: did was set targets for himself and more for the

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Speaker 16: district courts, and it's the first time he's ever done that,

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Speaker 16: and we're starting to get there. We're seeing the improvement,

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Speaker 16: we're seeing the backlog drop, and it's not just his targets,

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Speaker 16: but it's all the legislation that the government has put

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Speaker 16: through with Act At the Helm, we're feeling really confident

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Speaker 16: that we're making these good changes for victims, for people

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Speaker 16: that enter the court system, and these reductions are coming down.

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Speaker 16: So the targets that the Chief District Court judge has set,

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Speaker 16: they are the ones that we're going for. They're pretty aspirational,

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Speaker 16: but I think we can get there, and the outcomes

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Speaker 16: that you've just delivered with the percentages and reduction are

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Speaker 16: really quite outstanding. Even the High Court probate cases, we

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Speaker 16: had only nine percent resolved within fifteen days and twenty

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Speaker 16: twenty three, but that figure rose to thirty three percent

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Speaker 16: twenty twenty four and it's now sitting at eighty four

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Speaker 16: percent in twenty twenty five. So the legislation we've put

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Speaker 16: through the the KPIs that the judges have set for themselves.

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Speaker 16: We're getting there and we're getting this backwog underway, which

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Speaker 16: means victims are getting through their cases quicker, easier, and

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Speaker 16: we are supporting all those people out there who have

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Speaker 16: to enter the duster system and find it really stressful

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Speaker 16: to do.

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Speaker 15: So good.

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Speaker 16: It's such good news, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Our jury trials down to eight percent. Nicole and the Key,

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Speaker 2: who is the Minister for Courts. It's ten minutes past

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Speaker 2: seven Parlierance returns the day to the business of the

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Speaker 2: Mary Party and their privileges sanctions. When we left it,

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Speaker 2: of course, in Adderman had been called so the budget

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Speaker 2: could get its day and the sun. Chris Bishop's the

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Speaker 2: Leader of the House, of course, and he's with us. Morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning. The debate. Is it going to be any

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Speaker 2: less messy now that we've had a couple of days

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Speaker 2: to cool down, or are we just going to have

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three people saying one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty three different things moving amendments than one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty three people saying something different.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's wait and see them.

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Speaker 5: Let's hope.

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Speaker 17: So, I mean, I just want the debate over and

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Speaker 17: done with. Frank, I think it's time to get back

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Speaker 17: to some real issues facing the country. We know we

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Speaker 17: need to deal with the issue, but let's face it,

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Speaker 17: this is a distraction. We've got an economic economy that

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Speaker 17: we need to start growing again, and so my hope

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Speaker 17: is that we can deal with the issues swiftly at

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Speaker 17: parliaments afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Will we be filibustering? Do you reckon? Well?

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Speaker 17: I suspect that there will be a bit of it

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Speaker 17: from Labor and the Greens.

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Speaker 2: I mean they say they're not going to, but who knows.

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Speaker 17: I mean, one thing is that I moved on Tuesday

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Speaker 17: that we Parliament's meant to finish at six o'clock on Thursday,

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Speaker 17: so the debate would stop if we hadn't voted, and

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Speaker 17: so I said, well, look, let's just keep going onto

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Speaker 17: Thursday night and Friday if we have to, because we

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Speaker 17: just need the issue dealt with, and Labor and the

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Speaker 17: Greens are not supportive of that, so we'll sort of

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Speaker 17: tend to indicate that they're going to have a I

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Speaker 17: don't know, I think play a bit of politics with it,

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Speaker 17: which is a bit frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what I don't understand about Labor. Why are they're

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Speaker 2: busy defending the Maray Party. I mean, what's it to them?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's really a question for them.

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Speaker 17: I mean, at the end of the day, these guys

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Speaker 17: are all peas in a pod, Labor, the Greens, to

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Speaker 17: Party Maria, and they're going to line up together as

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Speaker 17: taxes and you know, put the economy into recession again.

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Speaker 17: So they're all there are all much of a muchness in

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Speaker 17: some senses. So and I think, you know, Cursipicins knows

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Speaker 17: that ultimately, if he gets some numbers together, will have

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Speaker 17: to be with the married party. So and I think

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Speaker 17: that prospect should skin is illinder.

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Speaker 2: What surprised me. I thought I knew what was going on,

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Speaker 2: but this proof. I thought the Privileges Committee was the

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Speaker 2: court of the House. They made a decision. It is

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Speaker 2: what it is. It's not like you get to debate

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Speaker 2: a court decision regularly. How is it we get to

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Speaker 2: have a debate what's the point of the Privileges Committee

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Speaker 2: if you second guess them.

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Speaker 17: Well, the standing orders provides that once the you know,

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Speaker 17: the committee has just decided, it gets endorsed by the House.

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Speaker 17: Now in the ordinary course of events, the Privileges Committee

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Speaker 17: is unanimous or near unanimous, and then it all just

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Speaker 17: kind of sails through and everyone kind of agrees on it,

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Speaker 17: and it all goes away. You know, I think about

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Speaker 17: duty and genta to vandom all on those things other

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Speaker 17: committees in the past. This one's a bit more, a

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Speaker 17: bit different because you know, basically the dividers, the governing

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Speaker 17: parties want her pretty you know, it is admittedly a

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Speaker 17: severe punishment twenty one days and you know Labour and

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Speaker 17: the Greens and to Party Mary obviously you know, basically

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Speaker 17: want to slap on the you know, sleep with a

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Speaker 17: wet bus ticket. So and it's sort of hard to

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Speaker 17: meet in the middle. Not on either side will give.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we are where we are, Okay, we'll

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Speaker 2: see how I done plots. Appreciate Leader of the House

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Speaker 2: Chris Bishop with us this morning. It is thirteen minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven tasking. She didn't mention Mike the bloody hard work.

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Speaker 2: The registrars are doing to reduce waiting time. Will if

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Speaker 2: she didn't, I'm sure she meant to. And if you

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Speaker 2: are a registrar and you are working bloody hard and

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Speaker 2: you are reducing the right time, we are grateful for

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Speaker 2: your work. By the way, slightly weird, but we'll do

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Speaker 2: it anyway. I gave you the news yesterday tourism later,

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Speaker 2: in fact, tourism in just a couple of moments I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize, but Milford Sound was going to be closed

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Speaker 2: down to cruise ships, which seemed to me to be

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Speaker 2: the stupidest idea on the history of stupid idea has been.

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Speaker 2: Anyway more in a second, and we gave you the

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Speaker 2: prize yesterday. Auckland is the best place in the world,

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Speaker 2: followed by Wellington to fall asleep if you're a tourist.

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Speaker 2: This morning. We have the Global Business Complexity Index Business

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Speaker 2: and PRIMIT, of seventy nine jurisdictions covers ninety four percent

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Speaker 2: of the world's GDP. There are two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: indicators of business complexity that they looked at. So, in

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Speaker 2: other words, you want to be at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the list. You want to be right down at seventy

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Speaker 2: nine and the Cayman Islands, I think, for probably spurious reasons,

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Speaker 2: turns out to be a very easy country to do business.

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Speaker 2: And but once again New Zealand is right up there

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Speaker 2: at seventy seven, so we're extremely easy to do business,

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Speaker 2: only beaten by Denmark and the aforementioned Caymans. Worst countries

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Speaker 2: in the world Greece, France, Mexico, Turkey and Columbia. So

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Speaker 2: we're actually having quite a good week Little Old New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: At b we're just working out whether it's Gallagher or

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Speaker 2: Gallagher eighty seven billion dollar market cap, so they're the

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Speaker 2: new sponsors for the All Blacks Insurance Company, so it's

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Speaker 2: a big deal. So we'll get Mark Robinson back on

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Speaker 2: the program before eight o'clock this morning. I've got some

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Speaker 2: good news seventeen past seven, by the way, good news

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Speaker 2: on two given. Just yesterday we had yet more numbers

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Speaker 2: that reminded us were still not back to where we

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Speaker 2: were post COVID and we're dragging the chain of it here.

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Speaker 2: So the government's rejected a plan to ban cruise ships

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Speaker 2: from entering Milford's Sound. Now, the idea has been around

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Speaker 2: for several years. They want to close the yestrip as well,

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Speaker 2: the claim being the ships blocked the scenic views of

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Speaker 2: land based visitors. So Jackie Lloyd is the cruise Association's

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Speaker 2: boss and as well as Jackie morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: So a good move, very good move.

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Speaker 18: We're delighted with the outcome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So did you have to lobby or was this

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Speaker 2: just a government who wants to get on with tourism

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Speaker 2: and it was sort of a phato complee.

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Speaker 18: I think it's been a mix of both. Over the

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Speaker 18: last four years, we've definitely been lobbying and advocating for

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Speaker 18: cruise access. There's been an agreement with Environments Southland that

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Speaker 18: all the cruise lines sign up to to ensure that

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Speaker 18: there's managed accessenter the sound. So a lot of that

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Speaker 18: work had already been done and now we have a

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Speaker 18: government that's very interested in tourism growth. So it's the

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Speaker 18: stars are aligned, if you like.

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Speaker 2: Where does Milford sit in the grand scheme of things

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Speaker 2: tourism wise? Four cruises in this country.

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Speaker 18: It's very similar to land based. You see the amount

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Speaker 18: of people that want to get to Melford when there,

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Speaker 18: when they're coming to New Zealand. It's an icon of

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Speaker 18: a New Zealand itinery, be it on land or by sea,

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Speaker 18: and certainly a critical port call for both New Zealand

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Speaker 18: and South Island itinery. So the option to possibly lose

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Speaker 18: Melford meant that we could see a reduction further reduction

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Speaker 18: and cruise visits to New Zealand and certainly to the

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Speaker 18: South Island.

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Speaker 2: This business. They wanted to close the airstrip, and I

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Speaker 2: think the astrip was a bit dodgy, but they know

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Speaker 2: they've got some money now to do something about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are people anti tourism? I mean to close

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Speaker 2: in the airstrip and prevent a ship from going in

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Speaker 2: one of them? I mean, you're just asking for trouble,

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Speaker 2: aren't you. I mean you either want to grow the

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Speaker 2: country or you don't.

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Speaker 18: You do, you did right, But it's it's the need

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Speaker 18: to be managed about it.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 18: The cruise ships don't just arrive on the day. There

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Speaker 18: often booked two years in advance. As I said, there's

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Speaker 18: an agreement with Environment Southland on the locations they can go,

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Speaker 18: the timings that they can enter the sounds the amount

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Speaker 18: of ships that can be any part of humand at

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Speaker 18: any one time. So it's not just a willing nellie.

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Speaker 19: Tourism.

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Speaker 18: It is managed and I think the airstrip is the same.

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Speaker 18: As long as tourism is managed, I think that we

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Speaker 18: have a really good focus going forward.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jackie, nice to talk to you. Jackie Lloyd,

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Speaker 2: who's the new Zealand Cruiser Association and boss pro on

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Speaker 2: Nicole mcke's getting a little bit of heat this morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: She didn't mention JP's who disposed a huge amount of

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Speaker 2: mindor court matters and courts every day for free, no pay,

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Speaker 2: goodness sake mortgages. By the way, I note that ASB

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Speaker 2: joined A and Z gave you the A and Z

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Speaker 2: numbers yesterday, ASB today ten points down on the eighteen

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Speaker 2: month fixed, we're down at four eight nine. That matches

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Speaker 2: A and Z. Is that competition or is that a

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Speaker 2: stitch up six month fixed fourteen basis points down to

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Speaker 2: five four five one year four basis points down. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 2: four come on, four nine to five. Largest decrease is

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Speaker 2: the three year fix that's dropped twenty basis points to

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Speaker 2: five one five but you know, my feeling is about

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Speaker 2: things that start with five. Not happy with them. Grocery commissioner.

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Speaker 2: Have we ever had the grocery We had the grocery

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Speaker 2: commissioner on when he first got the job, didn't we

877
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Speaker 2: And we said congratulations per year, you've got to call job,

878
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Speaker 2: go do something, and we haven't heard from them since.

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Speaker 2: Hill like, that's not true. But anyway, he's got a

880
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Speaker 2: couple of ideas around the supermarket business and we'll get

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Speaker 2: stuck into those after the News seven.

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Speaker 2: about half an hour to an hour twice a day

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Speaker 2: yesterday we should have raised it with Louise Tourism Minister.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, really they're sort of a group of

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Speaker 2: people who just don't want this country to get ahead.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the point of having beautiful scenery if

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Speaker 2: you don't want anyone to see it. You can't have that.

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Speaker 2: I live here, I've lived here for thirty seven years,

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Speaker 2: twenty four, there seems to be increasing reportage. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you've noticed, based around some new research that

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Speaker 2: our dream of being smoke freeze up in smoke. As

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Speaker 2: it turns out now this is the year if you

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Speaker 2: didn't realize twenty twenty five, when we were aiming to

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Speaker 2: be smoke free by smoke free, it would have been

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Speaker 2: reduced to five percent left smoking. Now to meet that goal,

923
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Speaker 2: the research says about eighty thousand more people need to quit,

924
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Speaker 2: and they won't, of course, and as always, the fact

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Speaker 2: they haven't or won't is somehow the government's fault, who

926
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Speaker 2: haven't done enough or worse, this particular government who they

927
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Speaker 2: say have been shocking led by New Zealand first and

928
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Speaker 2: Casey Costello, who is a devil who's in the pocket

929
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Speaker 2: of tobacco or some such gibberish that people like the

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Speaker 2: Labour Party spent a lot of time trying to suggest

931
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Speaker 2: where it went wrong was twofold. One was the belief,

932
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Speaker 2: and this was classic Labor under Helen Clark, that you

933
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Speaker 2: could force people to do something they didn't want to,

934
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Speaker 2: and there were always going to be people who didn't

935
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Speaker 2: want to. Where it worked, and we can be grateful

936
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Speaker 2: was in the public space part of it. I mean,

937
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Speaker 2: no longer are you forced to inhale if you don't

938
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Speaker 2: want to, or smell like a smoker, or stand in

939
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Speaker 2: a group will be trapped by it. But beyond that,

940
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Speaker 2: once the hard cares were on the footpath, some were

941
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Speaker 2: never going to give up. Secondly, vaping a shocking miscalculation

942
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 2: that it was a cessation tool when what it really

943
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: was was a gateway for kids, whole new generation who

944
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: got easy access and the slippery slope was never going

945
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: to get stopped. Governments could have nipped it in the butt,

946
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: of course, but didn't. Could have made vapees script only

947
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: like Australia, but didn't. The Labour Party under Asha Verel,

948
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Speaker 2: a medical professional from the party who invented smoke free

949
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: before they left office, hurled their best wet bus ticket

950
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Speaker 2: at the vaping market, so basically did nothing. So the

951
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: history will show out of the gates Clark style with

952
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: gusto early progress on public spaces and general change and

953
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Speaker 2: attitude to the habit, followed by the predictable malaise and

954
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: hard core resistance, leaving us twenty five years on with

955
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: a change in society, but well short of what was envisaged.

956
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: Good Crack failed on the follow through. Personally, I'd give

957
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Speaker 2: it seven out of ten. Pasking still od Orders this

958
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Speaker 2: morning about Gary Stead Is he good? Why is he left?

959
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: I was asking allders about that, and Orders gave us

960
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: some good answers, probably a bit sick of it. Wanted

961
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Speaker 2: to want it. They want basically, this is New Zealand

962
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: cricket to just have one coach for all what do

963
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: you call it? Forms of the game. And apparently, according

964
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Speaker 2: to Orders, this hasn't worked anywhere in the world and

965
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Speaker 2: so the moment you split.

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Speaker 12: Make sure that's why they don't do it anywhere.

967
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Speaker 20: In the world.

968
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Speaker 2: Well that's not true, Glenn. Hence I have talked to

969
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Speaker 2: lderus about this and not you, because if I'd talked

970
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: to you about it then I would have been misleading people.

971
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: So they do it in Pakistan. Big mistake, Sarz. That's okay.

972
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's why we got orders. So anyway, so

973
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Gary Steir here. He wanted to split

974
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: and then they said we can't split. My question is,

975
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: is Steed so good given as record that you want

976
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: to go for you we'll make you know, we'll make

977
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Speaker 2: a compensation if you do what you want to do

978
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: and will support you to do it. Or are they

979
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: so confident and Bond is the replacement apparently along with

980
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Speaker 2: another bloke I'd never heard of. I think his name

981
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Speaker 2: is Walker out of South Africa. Are they the replacements

982
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: for somebody as good as Gary Stead? Good Canterbury man?

983
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Speaker 2: I'm probably biased.

984
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 12: Can we get the coach of the Pakistani team? He

985
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 12: says all he knows what he's doing.

986
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: Do you know anything about cricket, Glyn, No, stay out

987
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: of it. I've talked to Walders. I mean, I come,

988
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: I come to this fully armed, and you talk to orders.

989
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: You're suddenly a cricket expert. Anyway, I'm just asking about

990
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Speaker 2: Gary Stead. Does he leave happily? Where does he go?

991
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: Is he fulfilled in the future? Was this his greatest

992
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 2: moment in time that he'll look back on? These are

993
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: just questions I'm posing to you as we go to.

994
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Speaker 1: The News New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the

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Speaker 1: Mic asking breakfast with al Vida, retirement, communities, Life your

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Speaker 1: Way News, togs.

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Speaker 2: Heead be my k Shaverral's legacy and government will be

998
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Speaker 2: the thousands of young people who will not grow who

999
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Speaker 2: will now grow up with lung disease. It's very good piece.

1000
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: This is back to the Vaping and smoke Free twenty

1001
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Speaker 2: five day Telegraph reprinted I think in the Herald yesterday

1002
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: under the headline vapings created a toxic monster. This is

1003
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: out of the UK. Obviously, around eighteen percent of eleven

1004
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: to seventeen year olds have vaped. Four hundred children in

1005
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: the UK admitted that they were currently vaping. Originally devised

1006
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: as an alternative, of course, for chronic smoke as that

1007
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: was always I mean, it probably is, but if you

1008
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Speaker 2: couldn't see the rest of it coming, you're an idiot.

1009
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Speaker 2: Are the UK government an enforcing disposable vape ban? It's

1010
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: now illegal to sell or supply them. We could have

1011
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: gone hard as she didn't. I'll never know why she didn't.

1012
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: She's a health professional, for goodness sake. Before the ban

1013
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: even began, researchers at the College London University College London

1014
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: believed disposable vape users were already switching to refillables and

1015
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: rechargeable devices and preparation instead of giving up so we're stuck.

1016
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Speaker 2: We took one problem semi solved it while creating another.

1017
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Cool a twenty two minutes away from a Matt Payne supercars.

1018
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: They're off the purpose weekend and he's doing really well.

1019
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: He's a young New Zealander flying that flat so brilliantly.

1020
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Speaker 2: So we look forward to catch up up Brea. It

1021
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: means I'm back here. Brace yourself. The Grocery Commissioner has

1022
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: got some ideas. They're looking to simplify the grocery supply

1023
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: code by removing the fear amongst supplies, of pushing back

1024
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: on supermarket demands. And secondly they're looking to cut back

1025
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Speaker 2: on promotional payments in the wholesale market. Pavender Hidden is

1026
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Speaker 2: the Grocery Commissioner, of course, and is with us. Very

1027
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: good morning to you. Good morning man, now call me Olfair.

1028
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Speaker 2: I thought we'd already done this. Have we not done

1029
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Speaker 2: any of this or were we just talking about doing this?

1030
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Speaker 15: Mike.

1031
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 19: We've done a market study which indicated some issues, and

1032
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Speaker 19: what we have done subsequently is delved more deeply into

1033
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Speaker 19: things so that we can understand exactly what's happening in

1034
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Speaker 19: the industry, and that is why today I've raised two

1035
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Speaker 19: issues to prove outcomes for consumers, and those two are

1036
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Speaker 19: as you mentioned the five billion dollars that are being

1037
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Speaker 19: paid in promotions by suppliers to retailers, and then also

1038
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 19: changing the rules to simplify the rules and really make

1039
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 19: it more efficient.

1040
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: Just to be clear, are these things going to happen

1041
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: or are you just announcing them as ideas.

1042
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 19: No, they're not just ideas, Mike. THEFT code is actually

1043
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 19: being published today and it has been published. What we

1044
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 19: are saying in that is we want to simplify things

1045
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 19: for all the suppliers out there. It's a complex code

1046
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 19: that's been in place. We saw early on that it

1047
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 19: wasn't delivering what was expected, and that's why we announced that.

1048
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 15: We will be reviewing it and we are.

1049
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 19: Looking now to change it so that supermarkets can't push

1050
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 19: their costs like for instance, wastage and packing shelves and

1051
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 19: other costs onto suppliers. So it's simplifying the way that

1052
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 19: they do business.

1053
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: Right, So just once again to try and be clear,

1054
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: are you doing this it will start tomorrow or are

1055
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: you in some sort of consultative process where US gets

1056
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: dragged on even longer.

1057
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Speaker 19: As a regulator. We have to consult, So there's a

1058
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 19: six weeks only a six week window to consult where

1059
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 19: we take on views from the supermarkets, from suppliers and

1060
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Speaker 19: others that are interesting it, and then we make a

1061
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 19: decision as to which way we go.

1062
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Speaker 15: And then of.

1063
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: Course that decision is final and will be enacted.

1064
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 19: That's correct, It will come out as a code and

1065
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 19: that will then be the new code that is applicable

1066
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 19: to all suppliers and supermarkets. When will that happen, We

1067
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 19: foresee that not to be later than September because of

1068
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 19: the time frames, the regulatory timeframes that are involved in this,

1069
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 19: and those are set down for us and we've got

1070
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Speaker 19: had here by them.

1071
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Your sense of it at the moment is the supply

1072
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Code will be curtailed completely. In other words, there will

1073
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Speaker 2: be no payments, or it will be adjusted slightly so

1074
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: there will be some payments, but not as many.

1075
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Speaker 19: We want to change it so that all the cars

1076
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Speaker 19: outs that are currently there are taken away. So currently

1077
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 19: smallest spliers have difficulty in pushing back against these large

1078
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 19: retail large supermarket because of the power imbalance. They want

1079
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 19: to retain their relationships, They want to make sure that

1080
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Speaker 19: their stock is on shelf, so they scared when they

1081
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Speaker 19: do that, and you know that and everyone in the

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Speaker 19: media because you can't get a supplier to speak openly

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Speaker 19: about it. So by taking these carve outs out, we're

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Speaker 19: making it simpler. In the current code, their carve outs

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Speaker 19: provided these supermarkets to X and Y. Unfortunately, it's become

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Speaker 19: the norm. I got it, and that's not what was intended.

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Speaker 2: I understand. Is that do you what's your gut say

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Speaker 2: if you did that, would that allegedly fix whatever it

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Speaker 2: is you found to be needing to be fixed, or

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Speaker 2: are you going to have to break them.

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Speaker 19: Up on the supply code that will fix it. There's

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Speaker 19: also what we're announced on the promotional spend on the

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Speaker 19: wholesale because our wholesale market isn't working effectively. Any larger

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Speaker 19: player that has come and spoken to me about coming

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Speaker 19: into the market, first thing they say is we can't

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Speaker 19: get a proper supply of groceries at a price that

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Speaker 19: we can compete on. And the reason for that is

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Speaker 19: suppliers are paying supermarkets five billion dollars in rebates and

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Speaker 19: promotions I've got that.

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Speaker 2: What I'm asking about is that part of what you're announcing,

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Speaker 2: is that going to solve the so called supermarket problem

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Speaker 2: or are you going to go down this willers track

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Speaker 2: where we need to break these big companies up.

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Speaker 19: There's no one silver bullet, unfortunately, Mike. We've got to

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Speaker 19: pull all the different leavers we have. And my task

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Speaker 19: is to improve competition in the long term for key

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Speaker 19: we consumers, and that is both competition and efficiency. And

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Speaker 19: if we can get the playing markets level, it will

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Speaker 19: encourage others to compete, even smaller players who are in

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Speaker 19: the market currently. If you look at Auckland as an example,

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Speaker 19: you know the major players are down to seventy just

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Speaker 19: seventy percent. I think it's seventy four percent market check

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Speaker 19: in the rest of the country they still at eighty two.

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Speaker 19: So if we can get more of those into the market,

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Speaker 19: the costcos and others, and even the online grosses, we

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Speaker 19: can make a difference even for rural consumers.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well yeah, okay, maybe we'll get you back another

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Speaker 2: day and argue about that, but that's Pevnherdin. Do you

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00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: like what he says, Do you understand what he says?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's going to make any difference once

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Speaker 2: the promotional supply coat things sorted? Are you going to

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Speaker 2: see your tin of beans cheaper? Do you believe any

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Speaker 2: of that? Sixteen minutes away from eight to tasky, we

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Speaker 2: pleased to know a council installed Chicane. This is in

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Speaker 2: the white Katto. Do you want to talk Wayuku and

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Speaker 2: they're raised. We've been mislead on this, by the way,

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Speaker 2: that's a scandal. So we said the other day that

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Speaker 2: the raised crossing, I'll come back to the Chicane and

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Speaker 2: white Katta shortly. But we were told the other day

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Speaker 2: we got this this this aggressive email. What was his name?

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Speaker 5: Do you rem his name?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name anyway, he wrote to us

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Speaker 2: and he told us to ring him a sap A

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Speaker 2: sap anyway. The point was we had said that the

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Speaker 2: raised crossing in Wayuku was four hundred thousand dollars and

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Speaker 2: they said it is not. It's sixty five thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: and we thought that's interesting. What we didn't realize at

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Speaker 2: the time and I do now, is that you've got

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Speaker 2: the new raised zebra crossing on top of a flat,

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Speaker 2: wide speed bump with side islands. That's your sixty five

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. But you've also the removal of an existing

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Speaker 2: zebra crossing, the new footpath next to the skate park,

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Speaker 2: the playground, the new traffic islands, the grass booms, the

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Speaker 2: installation of tactile papers to help the visually impaired, not

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Speaker 2: to mention the transport costs, and all the cones. And

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00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: remarkably that comes to four hundred thousand dollars, So we

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00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: were right it costs.

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Speaker 12: So it wasn't four hundred thousand dollars for one stupid

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Speaker 12: thing it was for.

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Speaker 2: It was one thousand dollars for a collection really stupid things.

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Speaker 12: Late Creighton Brown tried to straight us exactly.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, we stand by the four hundred thousand. The

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Speaker 2: good news on it. It's on hold. So we went

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Speaker 2: seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeartRadio

1156
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Speaker 1: powered by the News talks that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Hella lujah to the grocery Commission putting a stop to

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Speaker 2: the car out In rebates this bully tactic actually calls

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Speaker 2: me to close my wholesale important distribution business. But flip side,

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Speaker 2: Mike's not explaining what the changes in pricing are going

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Speaker 2: to be for the end consumer, which I believe will

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Speaker 2: be nothing. Couldn't agree more. That's exactly what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Same with petrol. A dune told us we are being

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Speaker 2: fleeced at the petrol station. How are you feeling you're

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00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 2: being less fleeced now more fleece? What sort of fleecing's

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00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: going on that you will never clue? Mike Well, the

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Speaker 2: changes and grocery carry out to the likes of Warehouse

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Speaker 2: and Bunnings. Well, Warehouse, yes, because it's supermarket. Bunnings probably

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Speaker 2: know because they're in hardware, which is a completely separate target.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, back to Waykato and the chicane the council

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Speaker 2: installed and this is how out of control these clowns are.

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Speaker 2: Council installed chicanes on a quiet country lane force drivers

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Speaker 2: to reduce their speed. Do you know why they did that?

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Speaker 2: This isn't Tamahiri very nice place. Part of the Waycatto

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Speaker 2: six formal complaints, six people, six people are anything. I

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Speaker 2: don't like the lock of this, And they went, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: We'll just spend hundreds of thousands of dollars put in

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Speaker 2: a chicane in big public meeting the other day. Seventy

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Speaker 2: people turned up demanded that the district council put an

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Speaker 2: end to the trial. Four months trial, four chicanes. This

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Speaker 2: is Birchwood Lane introduced without notice, without notice, so forget democracy.

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Speaker 2: Six winers have rung up and without notice. Let's get

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Speaker 2: on with it. Due to run until September. After the

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Speaker 2: council received six formal complaints and some emails about excessive

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Speaker 2: speed on the road. The backlash was immediate, residence bemoaning

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Speaker 2: the new layout, rejoicing when the vandals removed two of

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Speaker 2: the chicanes in just four days. So that's a win

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Speaker 2: for people power as far as I can work out.

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Speaker 2: Need to get to Mark Robinson and talk about Gallagher.

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Speaker 2: We've done the g. It's Gallagher massive American Insurance company.

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Speaker 2: They're the biggest new sponsors for the All Blacks. So

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Speaker 2: what are they getting and what are we getting? Money wise?

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Speaker 1: Ten Toway the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement

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Speaker 1: Communities News Togs had beds given.

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Speaker 2: Away from it. So having signed to out of the

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Speaker 2: other day, the Rugby Union back with a bigger deal.

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Speaker 2: This one's with the American Insurance player Gallagher market cap

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Speaker 2: of over eighty billion us I will appear on both

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Speaker 2: the training and matchday shorts of all their national teams.

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson's the Boston New Zealand Rugby and is back

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Speaker 2: with US Mark Morning Morning, Mike. What's their interest in rugby.

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Speaker 9: Well, they've just got a really deep connection with the

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Speaker 9: sport right around the world, to be honest, Mike. They've

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Speaker 9: been involved with World rugby, with the Premiership in England.

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00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 9: You know, they're involved in New Zealand rugby across the

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00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 9: provincial scene here already. And I think spending time with

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 9: them yesterday and last night, you know, they're really connected

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Speaker 9: into the values of the game, the ethos of the

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 9: sport they love, and they obviously feel that there's strong

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 9: opportunity for branding but also for business opportunities as well.

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Speaker 9: So I think it a really basically it's about people,

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 9: the values of the sport and the fit of the

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Speaker 9: two organizations long.

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Speaker 15: Term, we certainly hope.

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Speaker 9: So you know, this is out to the end of

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Speaker 9: twenty seven at the stage, but you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 9: both organizations be working really hard at the partnership to

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Speaker 9: create the only for the long term good dollars. You know,

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Speaker 9: you're was obliged to ask. The question might be, we're

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Speaker 9: really happy with the deal and you know, we're delighted

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Speaker 9: as you say, you mentioned the Toyota one getting across

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00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 9: the line recently, you know, those those combined has been

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Speaker 9: a really good last month or so.

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Speaker 2: So, in other words, post in THEOS that this has

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00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: all these have solved your problems and maybe then some.

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Speaker 9: Oh look, I'm not going to get into the detail,

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Speaker 9: and it might, but we're really, as we said around

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Speaker 9: the Enios settlement, where we're pleased with the outcome there.

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Speaker 9: We're delighted to bring two brands like Toyota and Gallagher

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Speaker 9: on board, and we're in a really good space in

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Speaker 9: the in the sponsorship area.

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Speaker 2: It does show you how sort of internationally the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks are because in the OS, with no disrespect to them,

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Speaker 2: and they weren't a name known widely in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Gallagher is either. You know, it's not

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00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: a retailed brand. In other words, it's not a name

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Speaker 2: that you identify with, like like Toyota or like. So

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00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: clearly it's an international play on their part.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like I said, I've obviously been looking at rugby

1240
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 9: properties and a whole lot of other different sporting properties

1241
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 9: are involved with and they see value in sport and

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Speaker 9: they see you. Certainly they see value in rugby over

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Speaker 9: the last ten years or so. And the orble Ax

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 9: is clearly and Black Ferns is clearly a couple of

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Speaker 9: properties that they also want to be identified closely with.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, there's really strong recognition of the brands and

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00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 9: the organization right around the world as we've been sort

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Speaker 9: of talking about for the last little while.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, good to catch up. Well done

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson who's in Rugby CEO. Maybe the make aprofit

1251
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: next year, you never know. Four minutes away from eight

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Speaker 2: task get like if the supermarkets cannot pass the cost

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Speaker 2: of supplies, they will simply pass it on to consumers exactly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why people can't work this out. As

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00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: I've always said, if there's a problem that you can solve,

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Speaker 2: if you're obsessed with us, like old Pierras and Nicolras,

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Speaker 2: and you can see something and you want to break

1258
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: it up or change it or flip it upside down,

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Speaker 2: and we can all then go, oh, thank God for

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Speaker 2: the Isn't that a fantastic change, brilliant go do it.

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Speaker 2: The fact they haven't, the fact they keep mucking around

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Speaker 2: the edges and sort of talking in riddles. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you listen closely to that peer interview, but

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Speaker 2: I mean he must be hard work to deal with

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Speaker 2: on a daily basis, mustn't he. I mean he barely

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: answers a question straight. And that's because there is nothing

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00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: black and white about this at all. It's nuanced and subtle.

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Speaker 2: And that's why Jacinda was so hopeless at these sort

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Speaker 2: of things. She thought that saying you're getting fleeced at

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Speaker 2: the petrol station was an easy headline. What came next

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Speaker 2: is the hard work and just maybe the possibility that

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Speaker 2: you're not actually being fleeced at the supermarket or the

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00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: petrol station or the building products department. That just maybe

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Speaker 2: we're a tiny little country at the bottom of the world,

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Speaker 2: as I keep saying, and things are what they are.

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Speaker 2: Because if it were so easy to fix, why haven't

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Speaker 2: we done it? For good mistake. Matt Payne Supercars. They're

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Speaker 2: off to Perth this weekend. He's back with us after

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Speaker 2: the News, which is next to news talk zby.

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Speaker 3: My Car's game been safeful, engaging and vital.

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Speaker 1: The Cosking breakfast with the range Rover Vilaine designed to intrigue,

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Speaker 1: can use talks dead be.

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Speaker 2: The supercars are back this weekend in Perth, which is

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Speaker 2: a bit of a time frame Hessel really, but then

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Speaker 2: Australia is a very big country. Matt Pain since we

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Speaker 2: last talked, has been having the time of his life

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Speaker 2: Number nineteen Mustang one one of the best races of

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Speaker 2: the season the other weekend in Tasmania. He currently sits

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Speaker 2: third in the standings and he's back with us from Melbourne.

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Speaker 15: Matt morning, Yeah, good morning to you as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, let's play a game. The game is what's

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Speaker 2: your favorite victory? Was it Taerpo or was it the

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Speaker 2: other weekend in Tasmania?

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Speaker 21: Good line to start off with us those, but for

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Speaker 21: me it definitely have to be Towerpa. I think that

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Speaker 21: was a pretty special weekend for all of us. You know,

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Speaker 21: two wins and one week in is pretty cool and

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Speaker 21: I think for me winning at home, especially in front

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Speaker 21: of the New Zealant crowd, it couldn't have been any better.

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Speaker 2: And of course since we last talked, the announcements have

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Speaker 2: been made. It is going to be Tarapeau and christ

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Speaker 2: du So twice a year for the next time and

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Speaker 2: full of years anyway, as a local, you've got to

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Speaker 2: be thrilled.

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Speaker 15: Oh, it's absolutely insane.

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Speaker 21: It's going to be really good to get around down

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Speaker 21: there and have the sort of South Island crowd around us,

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Speaker 21: and I think they're going to do a pretty good

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Speaker 21: job dressing the track up. I think it's going to

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Speaker 21: be I think it's going to be a really good weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. As regards Tasmania and that last race that you won,

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Speaker 2: how long does that you stay with you? The excitement,

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Speaker 2: the thrill of what unfolded, or you know, by Monday

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Speaker 2: have you moved on?

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 21: That was a pretty special race, like just how everything

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Speaker 21: played out as the tires were going away, and just

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Speaker 21: how close it was at the end.

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Speaker 15: It.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely stayed with me for a while. I think

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Speaker 21: there was still a fear bit of analyzing to do

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Speaker 21: over the weekend as a whole, just in terms of

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Speaker 21: our speed. But yeah, it was a pretty it was

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Speaker 21: a pretty awesome race. I think it's definitely one of

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Speaker 21: the most fun races I've ever had. As tough as

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Speaker 21: it was, but it was it was pretty cool to

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Speaker 21: women in that way, And yeah, I.

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Speaker 15: Didn't think I was going to.

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Speaker 21: I was going to when I was waking up that morning,

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Speaker 21: I didn't think I was going to be leaving the

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Speaker 21: track for the win, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: So talk to me about your confidence and how that's building.

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Speaker 2: Third year into this. You're in a good team, you've

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Speaker 2: got some good people around you, and you seem to

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Speaker 2: be growing into this and things seem to be going

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Speaker 2: very well.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 21: You know, this year is definitely the best start we've

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Speaker 21: had over my three years in the category, so it's

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Speaker 21: been really good in terms of that, especially after after

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Speaker 21: four rounds we're sitting third in the championship, which is

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Speaker 21: the highest I've ever been. So that's been a really

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Speaker 21: good sort of start for us to carry through some

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Speaker 21: really good momentum for the rest of the season. But

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Speaker 21: there's still a lot of work to do, Like there's

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Speaker 21: still some tracks coming up where we haven't particular, so

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Speaker 21: there's a lot of work to that codes into that,

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Speaker 21: especially the next two rounds probably are still I think

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Speaker 21: Tasmania was definitely the weakest track we had from last year,

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Speaker 21: but Darwin and Perth we still weren't when as splashes

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Speaker 21: were needed to be so I think I think there's Yeah,

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Speaker 21: there's still a lot of hard work to come, but

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Speaker 21: as far as having a good start to the year,

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Speaker 21: it's been really good.

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Speaker 2: A couple of key words there, Darwin and Perth always

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Speaker 2: reminds me just how big Australia is. I mean, just

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Speaker 2: getting everything you talk about coming to New Zealand, but

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Speaker 2: I mean what about getting from Melbourne to Perth and

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Speaker 2: Melbourne to Darwin. I mean, you've got the trucks in

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Speaker 2: the coming. That's gargentuan, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a big old place. There's a lot of

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Speaker 15: there's a lot of space.

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Speaker 21: To be filled up, and it's actually a pretty tight

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Speaker 21: turnaround for us in between Perth and Oh I think

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Speaker 21: it's only a weekend in between, so boys are going

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Speaker 21: to be working pretty hard to get the cars back.

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Speaker 21: I think it takes takes a few days to drive

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Speaker 21: back from Perth, and then even even a few days

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Speaker 21: to drive up straight up to Darwin. It's basically a

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Speaker 21: straight line up there. But lucky we've got a truck

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Speaker 21: driver here absolutely loves driving, so he doesn't mind.

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Speaker 2: Well that's good. Listen, let's talk about the prospects for

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Speaker 2: Perth in the moment, Matt Pain's with us out of Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: It's a Living Past eight The Mic.

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Speaker 2: Talks It be New Talks Me thirteen Past eight Mat

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Speaker 2: Pains with us out of Supercarers. Now, now what I've

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Speaker 2: been meaning to talk to you about is what I've

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Speaker 2: observed so fast. So you're the third year into this.

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Speaker 2: You're good at qualifying, right, so you've got what they

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Speaker 2: say good quality speed, so you're fast around a single lap.

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Speaker 2: And now it appears to me what you're building into

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01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: is they've got, you know, what they call good race speed.

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Speaker 2: So are those two different things? Does one follow the

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Speaker 2: other or are they like separate skills?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so it's qualifying speed.

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Speaker 21: I will always feel like I've had from the start,

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Speaker 21: and that's something you know, you can definitely grow up

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Speaker 21: with naturally in your career.

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Speaker 15: But my race race speed and race craft.

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Speaker 21: Probably weren't as good as they could have been right

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Speaker 21: when I sort of burst into the category a couple

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Speaker 21: of years ago. So for me, they're the biggest thing

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Speaker 21: we've we've all improved on as a team. Is definitely

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Speaker 21: our race speed. I think our race car is probably

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Speaker 21: one of the strongest in the field, especially looking after

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Speaker 21: its ties and essentially is that is the aim of

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Speaker 21: our game.

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Speaker 15: So that's definitely been a huge win for us.

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Speaker 21: But in terms of getting that race speed out of

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Speaker 21: the car, I think it has hurt our qualifying performance

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Speaker 21: a little bit.

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Speaker 15: So we still need to work on that.

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Speaker 21: Our quality car just doesn't seem to have the last

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Speaker 21: little bit to get out of it, so that's something

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Speaker 21: we're working on. But yeah, for sure, the race speed

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Speaker 21: is probably the most important. I think, you know, you

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 21: can go from having a sort of average quality and

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01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 21: if you're bank on having a quick car, you can

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Speaker 21: easily make up time, especially with strategy and things like that.

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Speaker 15: So it's it's important.

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Speaker 21: But for qualifying some tracks you need to you need

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Speaker 21: to qualify well, so it's tough to sort of trade

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Speaker 21: off both for both really and.

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Speaker 2: How much feedback do you as either give an engineer

1416
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: or a team on that sort of thing that you

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01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: know that you get from the track as opposed to

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Speaker 2: what they call telemetry.

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01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 21: Oh no, it's huge, Like we're constantly talking about balancing

1420
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Speaker 21: the car, especially in the practice session. That's basically that's

1421
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 21: basically all we're trying to turn. And whether it's whether

1422
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Speaker 21: it's race.

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Speaker 15: Car or quality car, it can change.

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Speaker 21: But that's certainly the driver feedback is certainly almost priority

1425
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 21: in terms of over all the senses and data that

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Speaker 21: the guys get from the car.

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Speaker 15: So that's that's big for us. And even even during

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Speaker 15: the racing.

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Speaker 21: Like as I'm out on the track, we're still talking

1430
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 21: about it and using the different tools to try and

1431
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Speaker 21: sort of get the.

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Speaker 15: Car a little bit more in the window.

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Speaker 21: If it isn't, it's pretty hard to do because there's

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Speaker 21: not really much we can do, but even talking about

1435
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Speaker 21: your Willston and all things like that, just trying to

1436
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Speaker 21: keep everything covered off to make sure you're getting the

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Speaker 21: most out of it.

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Speaker 2: Now, now, what about that how malleable is the car?

1439
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: Because a lot of us are fascinated at the moment

1440
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Speaker 2: with Liam and F one of course, I mean, and

1441
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: what you learn a F one is you can tell

1442
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Speaker 2: before you even get to a weekend. They know before

1443
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Speaker 2: you get to a weekend on the track and what

1444
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Speaker 2: you're going to be able to do and how good

1445
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: your competitive you're going to be. How similar in Supercows

1446
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Speaker 2: is that?

1447
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Speaker 21: Oh, it's definitely similar, like we know coming into a

1448
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 21: weekend what what will and will work and what probably

1449
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 21: won't that's done and a lot of the pre event

1450
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Speaker 21: stuff before the race weekend. But also it's for us

1451
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Speaker 21: we can't actually change too much of the car like

1452
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Speaker 21: when we're out of the race. So mainly it's there's

1453
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Speaker 21: there's probably one hundred different components you can change in

1454
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 21: the car itself in terms of set up, so it

1455
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 21: can get very sophisticated very quickly. But we all have

1456
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Speaker 21: a we all have a base setup of sort of

1457
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Speaker 21: where we feel comfortable with our car, and they will

1458
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Speaker 21: change that according to sort of the track geometry and

1459
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 21: and how the corners, what the radio are and things

1460
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 21: like that, so it's always evolving, but essentially we just

1461
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 21: sort of have that baseline where we work around that

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Speaker 21: each track.

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Speaker 10: We go to.

1464
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Speaker 2: And given that, then how bullish are you for the

1465
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Speaker 2: rest of the season, I mean, how do you how

1466
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Speaker 2: do you feel your tracking?

1467
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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 21: For me, I think, like I like I said before,

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Speaker 21: it's these next two rounds are really going to sort

1470
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Speaker 21: of shape our championship. I think if we can really

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Speaker 21: improve on these two and you know, still banks some

1472
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Speaker 21: really solid points you know, I think I think we're

1473
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Speaker 21: going to be looking really good. We haven't been Queens

1474
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Speaker 21: and Raceway before, only just doing some ride days there,

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Speaker 21: so that'll be another one to sort of put on

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Speaker 21: the cards. I think I think that track should probably

1477
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Speaker 21: suit us as well. So I know that a lot

1478
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Speaker 21: of the tracks coming up at the end of the

1479
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Speaker 21: year we're pretty strong at so I think it's I

1480
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Speaker 21: think it's looking good. There's definitely been There's definitely been

1481
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Speaker 21: a couple of rounds this year where probably didn't think

1482
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Speaker 21: we were going to score as many points as we did,

1483
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Speaker 21: so I think it's pretty positive. And and from the

1484
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Speaker 21: start of the year to where we are now, I

1485
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 21: think there's no doubt about it that we've we've improved

1486
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 21: our car quite a bit, so that's definitely definitely helped

1487
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 21: us as well. But it's going to be it's going

1488
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 21: to be the next two rounds which really sort of

1489
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 21: show how we're going.

1490
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Speaker 9: And what do you do?

1491
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Speaker 2: I mean this gap between the races, I mean, what

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: what what do you do do?

1493
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Speaker 10: You?

1494
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: Are you behind a wheel you and assume you're going

1495
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: to track days and keeping up a rhythm or do

1496
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: you just sit and wait?

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01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 15: Well, basically it's it's pretty there's there's quite a few

1498
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 15: big gaps this year.

1499
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Speaker 21: So I mainly just you know, do a lot of

1500
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Speaker 21: simulator training every day and trying to get into the

1501
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 21: workshop and sort of see what the boys are.

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Speaker 15: Up to and have a few meetings and stuff. We

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Speaker 15: do have quite a bit of quite a.

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Speaker 21: Few appearances and that just for responses throughout in between

1505
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 21: the rounds and just making sure everyone's happy. And yeah,

1506
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Speaker 21: it's not too bad, but there there there are some

1507
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Speaker 21: quite tight turnarounds this year as well, so it's more

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 21: challenging for the g iced to get the cards ready.

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01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 21: Then for us we sort of just get back and

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01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 21: reset and then go again.

1511
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: And what about all this, mat, I mean, is this

1512
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: as good as it gets you living the dream?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I'd say it's pretty close to that. Certainly, when

1514
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 21: you when you when you when you know you got speed,

1515
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 21: it's certainly better. And when you're when you're winning, it's

1516
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 21: it's obviously the best. When you're not going so well,

1517
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 21: it is tough. You know, people looking and see that

1518
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 21: you know, oh you're driving race cars. It must be awesome,

1519
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 21: but it still can be as hard as any job

1520
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 21: out there. When the when the pressure is on and

1521
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 21: you know you need to deliver a result, so it

1522
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 21: can be tough, but certainly now I've feel like I'm

1523
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 21: settled in in a pretty good place and and with

1524
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 21: how how the car is tracking and that it seems

1525
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 21: pretty positive for the for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're enjoying watching it as always good to catch

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Speaker 2: up with you go well on Perth Beauty. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: there we go, Matt Payne out of Melbourne. This morning

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Speaker 2: cash app Racing Balls otherwise known as v carbon. Liam

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Speaker 2: Lawson AI news from them today they've deployed the Neural concept.

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Speaker 2: This is a leading AI platform for engineering design accelerates

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: the team's car design optimizes aerodynamic performance through AI powered

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Speaker 2: data driven engineering workflows that enable faster design iteration and

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Speaker 2: better formed decisions.

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Speaker 12: Oh there you go. More points for Liam.

1561
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: Next round complements traditional computational fluid dynamics, which of course

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: is known in the industry as CFD with high speed

1563
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Speaker 2: predictive simulations.

1564
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe they haven't been doing that sooner.

1565
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: The big talking point in Spain where the FIA came

1566
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: down with new rules on the wing, the front wings,

1567
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: and everyone was just like wetting their pants over who

1568
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: was going to get caught, Because how this thing works

1569
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: is people like Red Bull, mainly Red Bull, Red Bull winers,

1570
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: Red Bull and Christian go to THEA all the time

1571
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: and they go, we think they're winning because they've got

1572
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 2: this and changed that. Can you fix it anyway? So

1573
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: they did this new rule where you could no longer

1574
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: adjust your front wing the way you used to. They

1575
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: reduced the adjustment by five mil used to be fifteen,

1576
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 2: took it down to ten. And everyone went, one, who's

1577
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: been doing that? And will it affect them?

1578
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 19: Two?

1579
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: Will it affect anybody? Answer? Didn't change a thing, So

1580
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: it's just all bollocks. Has anyone got a SIM? I'm

1581
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: thinking that I might want a sim and from what

1582
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm seeing, and I've seen all them, even the good ones,

1583
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: you can spend a lot of money on a SIM,

1584
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: but you can spend comparatively speaking, not a lot on

1585
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: sim but from even the really good ones. They don't

1586
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: seem to be real. You know, when you sit in

1587
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: the car and you've got a big screen in front

1588
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: of you and you go around a track and pick

1589
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: a track. It's not like gaming. It's better than gaming.

1590
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: It's bigger than gaming. It's a bona fide looks like

1591
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: a car, car seat, car pedals, car wheels, massive screen.

1592
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: I just can't see how it's that real. And then

1593
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: looking at it, it doesn't seem that real guy spend

1594
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 2: their entire life on as some learning the track and

1595
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: the nuances and subtlety. But if it's not real, if

1596
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel right, you know, if it doesn't give

1597
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: your feedback on the brakes or the pedal or the steering,

1598
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: then I don't really see how use I mean, I'm

1599
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 2: sure it's a fun game. Speaking of games, what's the

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: game that's out today? Is it Switched to I think

1601
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: switch to Drops today?

1602
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 19: Yeah?

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01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: The console it's out today, isn't it? I read a

1604
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: review out yesterday. As I was reading the review, apparently

1605
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: it's very very good, and it supports a whole lot

1606
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: of stuff it didn't support before, and everything's improved immeasurably,

1607
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: and it's brilliant seemed a very good thing for about

1608
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars, and the grips and the handles are better.

1609
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: And as I was reading this, I thought, I'd never

1610
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: gamed in my life. I'm never going to use this.

1611
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm never I don't even know what it is, and

1612
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,560
Speaker 2: yet here I am reading this. I'm going to have

1613
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: to work it into the program somewhere and blow me

1614
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: down the news as next to them, we'll go.

1615
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: To the UK and rob news Opinion and everything in between,

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: the mic hosting Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local

1617
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and virural news.

1618
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: Togs Head be welling, Mike. I know it's not your

1619
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: job because you explain this filibustering and what's the purpose

1620
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 2: and why will labor and the Greens be doing it?

1621
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 2: Good question, Dan, And I'll come back to that in

1622
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments because it will take a second.

1623
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: But I need to return to my review of Nintendo

1624
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: Switch too seven hundred dollars In Australia, it's claimed it's

1625
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars here. Years of anticipation is that true?

1626
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: Years of anticipation is what they're saying it's launched today.

1627
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: It's out today. Display as big as sharper, faster, brighter,

1628
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: more vibrant. It's a stunning screen, easily on par with

1629
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 2: the highest end handheld gaming PCs. So that's good to hear.

1630
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: The chip new one This is where in video comes in,

1631
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: claims it's got ten times the graphical power of the

1632
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: chip in the original. Switch also supports in videos DLSS

1633
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: for AI upscaling integrated chat feature called game chat, so

1634
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: you can call friends and cheer your screen to show

1635
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: them what you're playing. Sounds a bit nerdy to me.

1636
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 12: Well, that's only because you haven't got any friends.

1637
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: That's true. Too early to say, what can you get friends?

1638
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: Is there a light get friends button? Too early to say.

1639
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: Switch to will be as successful as the original. It

1640
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: is at least as compelling an upgrade as anything has.

1641
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: The controller improved the joy Con two yes, larger, with

1642
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: bigger buttons and triggers. They now magnet onto the sides

1643
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: of the console and control a grip rather than sliding

1644
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: on rails. It's got a more advanced rumble and can

1645
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: produce subtle textured vibrations or big rumby shakes.

1646
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,959
Speaker 12: I'm a bit concerned that if the rumble is too advanced,

1647
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 12: it might unmagnetize my grips.

1648
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, good one, and then you've lost your grip Cyberpunk

1649
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: twenty seventy seven, Star Wars Outlaws. You've got switched to

1650
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: editions of a bunch of other games as well.

1651
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 5: Hold on.

1652
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: At launch, you get Marrio Kart World, which is an

1653
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: evolution of Marrio Caart eight, and you get Nintendo switched

1654
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: to Welcome to eight hundred bucks. Don't talk about Sam.

1655
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: No one can hear it. It's like so boring. It's

1656
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: such boring radio when you're talking about I.

1657
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 12: Mean, I heard what he was saying, and it was boring.

1658
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: It was boring. He's not that an interesting this way,

1659
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have his own radio show, is.

1660
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 12: Bleeding on about those The games aren't included that.

1661
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes.

1662
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 14: Away from that international correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance

1663
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 14: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

1664
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Rod Little in Britain, Morning to your mate, Good morning

1665
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: make How does this we played clips earlier on Bad

1666
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: Knock v. Starma Stamer v. Bad Knock in the House

1667
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: over the winter fuel payment back down, How ultimately does

1668
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: this play out politically?

1669
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 10: For him.

1670
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 20: I think it's less helpful to starm with the things cities.

1671
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 20: It would have been fine if the winterfield payments had

1672
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 20: been paid back in October November last year or a

1673
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 20: great paid but reinstating them aid us likely to defeat

1674
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 20: for starma and doesn't really get him any cross as

1675
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 20: being kindly towards the pensions because he stopped them in

1676
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 20: the first place. So there's a real problem there, and

1677
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 20: that same problem will be there if he tries to

1678
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 20: backtrack on benefit cuts as well, for disability benefits. There

1679
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 20: is not a huge amount politically to be gained. Whatever

1680
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 20: I'm leaving aside here, Mike, what is the right thing

1681
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 20: to do? As ever that there is no great political

1682
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 20: gain from backtracking on stuff which he already made the

1683
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 20: decision about because he has seemed to be wrong, you

1684
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 20: know it is. It is a it's a typicult position

1685
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 20: for him.

1686
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 2: How do I find the money? Because I'm reading about

1687
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: the hit room the other day and this is Rachel

1688
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: Ravesen and whatever you call your offer, and we call

1689
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: it the treasury, the Treasury gives advice and goes, well, listen,

1690
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 2: under the current bill you're buying, you borrow too much

1691
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: you can't afford any more. Where do they get the

1692
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: billions for us?

1693
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 20: I don't know, is the answer, and I don't think

1694
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 20: they know either. It's the Office for a bunch of

1695
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 20: responsibility over here, but also the Treasury. Of course. It's

1696
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 20: a mystery to me, and it's a mystery to me,

1697
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 20: and I think it is a mystery to k Starbar

1698
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 20: and indeed Rachel reeves as to where they're going to

1699
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 20: get the money for this much vaunted huge expansion in

1700
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 20: defense expenditure, which at first took here. Starman said it

1701
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 20: was going to be three percent by the end of

1702
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 20: this parliamentary term, and then changed his mind, backtracked, obfuscated,

1703
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 20: hopped around a bit and said definitely three percent, but

1704
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 20: I'm not going to tell you when it's just pathetic.

1705
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 20: So there's a real problem with defense expenditure, especially as

1706
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 20: you know NATO is expecting us to raise it. Not

1707
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 20: but it's a three percent to three point five percent,

1708
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 20: So he's he's caught on a number of issues, all

1709
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 20: the consequence of a lack of cloth in the economy,

1710
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 20: a lack of money in the economy, and a black

1711
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 20: hole with the finances.

1712
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: It's funny you should mean what, it's not funny. I

1713
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: mean it was as overnight and we featured the as well,

1714
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: this meeting that was held about Ukraine. Yet again the

1715
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: Germans seem very robust about Menitia support and you need

1716
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 2: to spend some more money and we're all heading towards

1717
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 2: five percent. How does all of this so you spend

1718
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: on defense?

1719
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 5: Is that for you?

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Speaker 2: And is that separate to the money you might give

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01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: to Ukraine to go buy some more drones, to bond

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01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: some more bridges.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely not clear the theory. It should be for us.

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01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 20: And look, the Ukrainian money is separate to that is

1725
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 20: already by the way, you know, a long time ago

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Speaker 20: suggested that they're cut into the overseas eight budget. It's

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Speaker 20: taken up by the money which were spent on Ukraine,

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,919
Speaker 20: which is overseas eight of course. But no, we're apparently

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 20: buying loads nuclear subs to carry nukes around the world.

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01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 20: I don't know how modern money is. I'm not a

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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 20: military expert, but that seems to be the plan. So

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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 20: that is where the vast bulk of the money coming

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Speaker 20: from those promised additions to the defense budget will be spent.

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01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 20: I would rather it was spent on you know, the

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01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 20: rather more savvy counter espionage which we're suffering pretty much

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01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 20: every week over here from either Russia or China or

1737
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 20: a combination for two, in cybercrime, in disruption of industry,

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01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 20: et cetera, et cetera.

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01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that I forgot to mention

1740
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago to you. But you're the fourth.

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: I've got now four people sitting far to Kyostama's houses

1742
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: and cows and stuff like that. I mean, four people

1743
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 2: that are all Ukrainian. You're what, But I mean, clearly

1744
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: there's something a bit abnormal about all the.

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01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 20: Same, there is something deeply abnormal about it. There was

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 20: actually three Ukrainians and one room Median. And of course

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 20: Rumedia as well is right up there on that border,

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01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 20: and Rumania is where quite a large number of Russian

1749
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 20: hackers have been based for quite a long time. It

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01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 20: seems I cannot work out what could possibly be the

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 20: motive for this without Russia's direct involvement. I just cannot

1752
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 20: work out what the motive could be. These were four,

1753
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 20: as we call them colloquially over here, rent boys who

1754
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 20: suddenly decided to step out of the Prime Minister's House.

1755
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 20: Why did they decide to do that? You know it

1756
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 20: is it almost beggers belief that it is not in

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 20: some way masterminded from beyond.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, you go, well, we'll catch up next week.

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: Rod a little out of Britain for us. Come back

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01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: to the filibustering question. At the moment sixteen two the

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01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: mic asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I have radio

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01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: powered by news Talks be Morning Mike, and know it's

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Speaker 2: not your job, but could you explain this filibustering? So

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01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: the debate today, this was on the speaker's recommendation. The

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01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: Privileges Committee comes back and say we recommend twenty one

1766
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: days suspension might be clarke, it's something slightly lest seven days.

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01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: Now the Speaker allows the debate, and the debate is

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01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: allowed by all one hundred wall MPs in this case there'

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01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three of them. And then you

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01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 2: get to put an amendment, so you get to speak

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01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: for ten minutes if you want to. There's no rule

1772
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 2: that says you have to. If you want to, you

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: speak for your ten minutes, and if you want to

1774
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: put an amendment for it. In other words, your amendment

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01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: might be well instead of twenty one days, I submit

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01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: seventeen days. And here's why I do it. You get

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01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: speak for another ten minutes. So that's twenty minutes per

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01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 2: MP times one hundred and twenty three. Filibustering is when

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01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: they deliberately and overtly decide to use the maximum amount

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 2: of time and some jurisdictions. You saw Corey Booker the

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01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: other day in the house. They do it a lot

1782
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 2: in Congress. Corey book in the House the other day

1783
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: he was allowed to speak for as long as he

1784
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 2: could under the rules that you have to stand up,

1785
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: you can't go to the toilet, and that's as you

1786
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 2: just keep going, And so he set a record on that.

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Speaker 2: That's filibustering. In this country, we don't do it that way.

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01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: You have set amounts of time, and if you use

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: your time, and you organize yourselves to use your time

1790
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: whether or not you're looking to achieve something, that is filibustering,

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01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: and that is for no purpose whatsoever other than to

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01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: waste time and to put off the inevitable. So, in

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01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 2: other words, can you change something no, Will you change

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01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: something no? Does it waste time and money? Yes? Will

1795
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 2: you ultimately get your way no? So That's what philibustering is.

1796
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 2: It's a time on a tradition in most Westminster style

1797
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: systems around the world. There's an insight yesterday. I thought

1798
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: there was a massive overreaction. I found it hard to believe.

1799
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: But Talbot Mills, working for ASB, did this thing on

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01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 2: Kiwi businesses and our reaction to Trump and tariffs. Two thirds,

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: sixty six percent of businesses think that the tariffs are

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01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 2: going to be more severe and have a greater global

1803
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: impact than COVID. Do you not remember COVID? In COVID

1804
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 2: everything stopped. We all went home and we stuck a

1805
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Teddy Bear in the window and we just waited. That's

1806
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: not happening now. So how can be worse than COVID.

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01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: I've got no idea. They also argue two thirds it's

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01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 2: worse than the global financial crisis. While we remember the

1809
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: global financial crisis because it wasn't that long ago. Lehman Brothers,

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: they may some movies out of it. Don't think they're

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01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: going to make a movie out of the tariff somehow.

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01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: It's not that interesting. But that was really bad because

1813
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 2: there was a credit crunch and money stopped flying. Money

1814
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped flying. So the world hasn't stopped, the money

1815
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped. All we are is just a bit miffed

1816
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 2: about an old guy who doesn't seem to understand basic economics.

1817
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't have thought it requires that sort of reaction,

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01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: But there you go. Nine away from nine a.

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01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,679
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Speaker 2: If you're looking for a simulator, make sure you get

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Speaker 2: There we go, maybe we all do that. The initial

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01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: complaint Mike was the supermarkets are raulting the system and

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01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: customers to the tune of one to two million dollars

1826
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: per day excess. So break that down to a round

1827
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: about one cent perritum every day sold. The supermarkets took

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: that one cent per writeum off the price of everything,

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: then the issue would be resolved, So big deal. The

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01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 2: supermarkets do well because they're efficient and are in business

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01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: to make a profit. Not all supermarkets are profitable, as

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01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 2: there are many who struggle and some close Australia have

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01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: elder They use second level supplies, but New Zealand's too

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: small to have those supplies, and the big supplies will

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01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 2: not jeopardize their business with the supermarkets by discounting to

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01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 2: the competitors like the warehouse. If a third chain could

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01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: be set up and be competitive and successful, then the warehouse,

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: with its huge resources would have been successful. Then it hasn't.

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01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:26,799
Speaker 2: I just think that sums it up in a nutshell.

1840
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: If you want to crack the nut, crack the nut,

1841
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: get on with it. Stop talking about it, stop draft planning,

1842
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: stop threatening Nikola Willis.

1843
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 21: Just do it.

1844
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: Just tell us how you going to do it, and

1845
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: do it. But the fact you haven't speaks volumes sticks

1846
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: away from.

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01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: Nine trending now quit Chemist Warehouse the real House of vitamins.

1848
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: Now, if you're an avgate like me. Three names you

1849
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: want to know about Sam Shwai, Kim Illman and a

1850
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 2: guy called non Stop Dan. NonStop Dans quite good and

1851
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: they review flights around the world anyways touchdown in this

1852
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: particular part of the world, and he's found some problems

1853
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: with the New Zealand unform. He's taken a couple of

1854
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: flaunts business class from Oakland to Sydney, and he's also

1855
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: taken one from Sydney to Houston, so I'm assuming that

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01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: Sidney is stopping at Oakland. Oakland through Houston. They're on

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,919
Speaker 2: Triple seven three hundred hours, so it's not the Dreamline,

1858
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 2: but it's the other plane they run. So it's nineteen

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01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: minute video on a New Zealand Is he's a bit

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01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: that didn't get that?

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01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 5: Will?

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 22: They have a terrible business class seat here. All seats

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01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 22: face the aisles instead of the windows, which makes literally

1864
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 22: no sense and probably the most awkward business class configuration

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 22: in the world. And I cannot fathom that Air New

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 22: Zealand we're taking delivery of planes with these ancient seats

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01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 22: until very recently. The cabin has no privacy. Besides the

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01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,879
Speaker 22: lack of privacy, the seat also has the least storage

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01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 22: of any business class seat in the world. We don't

1870
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 22: end up pushing back until ten twenty eighty minutes find

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 22: schedule on such a long flight. Pajamas would be provided

1872
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 22: on quite a number of airlines nowadays, so it's a

1873
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 22: shame Air New Zealand doesn't offer anything along those lines.

1874
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 22: But the all time amenity kit must have and I'm asked,

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01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 22: is missing. They have mediocre food, they're managed my booking

1876
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 22: page and website is pretty abysmal in terms of sound.

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01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 22: You'll probably be better off using your own headphones than

1878
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 22: those provided. We find there are no individual air vents

1879
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 22: and the seats are strange, to say the least.

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01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: So bets and business class. I'll give you the price

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01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: for that. In the moment positives.

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01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 22: At least, Air New Zealand nails the ambiance. I mean,

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01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 22: if they had a better seat, this would feel so

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01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 22: sleek for this relatively short three hour flight. The pre

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01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 22: departure service is incredible. I have to take off, I

1886
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 22: quickly connect to the free Wi Fi. Yes, free for

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01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 22: all passengers on board in all cabins. To my surprise,

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01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 22: the speeds are amazing. Air New Zealand, I discover has

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01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 22: some of the best inflight bathrooms in the world. I'm

1890
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 22: left with the most comfortable business class bed I can

1891
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 22: ever remember having this insane mattress pad. This is better

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01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 22: than some first class mattress pad.

1893
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: So no privacy, but it's comfortable toilets, good Wi Fi

1894
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: is fantastic, service excellent. Would he fly again?

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01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 14: I would be.

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 22: I'm more than happy to have Air in New Zealand

1897
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 22: as my go to airline.

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01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: There you go, and he's he's one of the big

1899
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 2: influences around the world. Sam SHUEI, Kim Millman are the others.

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: If you want to fly to Houston in business, it's

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01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: about twenty thousand dollars for two people's ten thousand dollars

1902
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 2: for no privacy.

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01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 12: Just think how many Nintendo switch toos you can.

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01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 2: There's quite a lot of Nintendo switch tos for that,

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01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 2: you quite right. Glynn back tomorrow morning from six on

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Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking Breakfast. There's always happy.

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Speaker 22: Persons on.

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