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Speaker 1: What being used fold opinions. Heather due for Sea Allen

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Speaker 1: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: Morning and Welcome. Coming up today are the investor is

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Speaker 2: going to put money into kiwibanks. We're going to speak

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Speaker 2: to one after seven o'clock. Our parents being given too

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Speaker 2: much sday on what the kids are learning in the

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Speaker 2: old sex ed at school. Apparently they are and apparently

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Speaker 2: actually that needs to change, so we'll have to chat

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Speaker 2: to the earro's Ruth Shanoda on that, the Air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand boss on a year that he'd probably rather forget,

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Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister is in for a chat with

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Speaker 2: us after half past seven.

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Speaker 3: Heather due for Sea Allen.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday something happened which is reasonably significant. A long running

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Speaker 2: court case came to an end at least for now,

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Speaker 2: and the B and Z has one permission to shut

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Speaker 2: down Gloria Vale's bank accounts.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I actually feel quite uncomfortable about this, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable because I'm a fan of Gloria of OL's quite

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Speaker 2: the opposite. I think the place is weird. I'd like

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Speaker 2: to see it close. I'd like to see the people

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Speaker 2: there realize just how weird their situation is. And so

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Speaker 2: I guess, on the face of it, I should actually

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Speaker 2: like what B and ZED is doing because it will

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Speaker 2: effectively and quite possibly actually end up shutting down Gloria Vale.

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Speaker 2: Because without a bank, how on earth is Gloria Vale

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Speaker 2: going to be able to continue. I mean, no one

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Speaker 2: else is going to bank them. They've tried. This is

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Speaker 2: why they took the court case, because they were trying

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Speaker 2: to force B and Z to keep their bank accounts open.

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Speaker 2: Because without these bank accounts, it be in Z basically

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Speaker 2: can't do business anymore. Can They can't do anything?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think about your situation in the modern world.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't have a bank account, you can't survive.

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Speaker 2: It's how you get paid, it's how you pay your

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Speaker 2: power bills, it's how you get a mortgage to be

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Speaker 2: able to buy a house, it's how you order things

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Speaker 2: from overseas with the credit card that the bank gives you.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely everything nowadays requires you to have a bank account.

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Speaker 2: And yet I still, despite the fact that I don't

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Speaker 2: like Gloria l and the fact that I would like

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Speaker 2: them to close down. I still do not think this

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Speaker 2: is the right thing for B and Z to be doing.

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Speaker 2: Because of the precedent that this sets. Banks can shut

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Speaker 2: your account if they don't like what you're doing, by

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Speaker 2: the looks of things, doesn't have to be criminals, just

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Speaker 2: don't have to like it. And I think there's already

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Speaker 2: too much of this moral police and coming from the banks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, have a look at what's already going on

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Speaker 2: the Aussie banks here imposing penalties in our dairy farmers

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Speaker 2: because they think that they're not cutting emissions by enough.

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Speaker 2: You've got Kiwibank already pledging to stop banking coal mining

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Speaker 2: businesses because they don't like that. You've got B and

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Speaker 2: Z who will not let a couple of women run

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Speaker 2: who are running a sex toy shop open bank accounts

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Speaker 2: because B and Z doesn't like sex toy shops. By

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Speaker 2: the looks of things, there is a massive d banking

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Speaker 2: scandal playing out in the US where even Malania Trump

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Speaker 2: reckons that her account will shut down after the January

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Speaker 2: sixth rides. It's already played out in the UK with

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Speaker 2: Nigel Farage. And to be fair to banks, it's not

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Speaker 2: as if this is something that they've just taken up recently.

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Speaker 2: I mean, remember, these are the guys who wouldn't let

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Speaker 2: women take out mortgages unless a male relative said it

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Speaker 2: was okay. And we're talking as recently as the nineteen eighties. Now,

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Speaker 2: I get that it's a bank's right to stop doing

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Speaker 2: business with whoever it wants to, and refuse to do

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Speaker 2: business whoever it wants to. I just don't like the

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Speaker 2: bank's reason for why they're doing this, because if it's

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Speaker 2: Gloria v Ail today, a couple of girls selling sex

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Speaker 2: toys tomorrow, who comes next?

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: All right, So what does it look like in Syria

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Speaker 2: thirty sixty hours on from a SAD being overthrown.

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Speaker 6: This is the third or fourth tank that we've passed

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Speaker 6: on the road from the border.

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Speaker 7: We're on the.

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Speaker 6: Outskirts now of Damascus. They're literally just left in the road,

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Speaker 6: along with uniform boots other bits of military paraphernalia, just discarded.

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Speaker 2: Israel ragain trying to take critic.

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Speaker 8: Israel's forceful action against Ksboula and against Iran. Ussad's main

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Speaker 8: supporters were in turn used by usad's enemies. It's set

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Speaker 8: a chain of events a chain reaction for those who

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Speaker 8: want to free themselves from this tyranny.

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Speaker 2: Now, these Syrian refugees never thought they'd be able to

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Speaker 2: come home.

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Speaker 9: I am sixty years old and this is the first

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Speaker 9: time I stand here.

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Speaker 6: People are getting delirious.

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Speaker 9: Your happiness here today, Our happiness is indescribable and priceless

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Speaker 9: because what's happening now in Damascus will benefit all Arab nations,

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Speaker 9: as Damascus is the mother of the Arabs.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the US has taken the opportunity to hit those

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Speaker 2: ISIS camps in Syria.

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Speaker 10: Think that we're going to find it. We've been pretty successful,

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Speaker 10: but that's focused on ISIS to keep the pressure on

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Speaker 10: ISIS and to deny them the ability to easily research.

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Speaker 2: Now over to the States, New York's Mayor Eric Adams

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Speaker 2: says they're closing in on the CEO killer, with police

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Speaker 2: also taking the search to Georgia.

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Speaker 11: That is tightening and we're going to bring this person

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Speaker 11: to justice as a horrific of incident in our city,

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Speaker 11: and we want to make sure this person is remove

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Speaker 11: up the streets of America, not only off.

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Speaker 12: The streets of New York.

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Speaker 2: The FBI says China launched a major cyber attack last month.

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Speaker 2: Republicans are now worried about election hacking.

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Speaker 13: It's a real wake up call for the United States

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Speaker 13: of America that China is not only our chief adversary,

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Speaker 13: but they're hell bent on gaining valuable information by any

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Speaker 13: means necessary. We've got to take it seriously. We have

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Speaker 13: to have some sort of deterrence here so they don't

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Speaker 13: feel like they can get away with this.

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Speaker 2: And finally, as I was telling you yesterday, Taylor Swift's

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Speaker 2: Eras Tour is now officially over nine different shows, a

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Speaker 2: new touring revenue record of two point zero seven seven

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Speaker 2: billion US dollars or three and a half billion New

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Speaker 2: Zealand dollars. Now that more than doubles Alton John's Farewell

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Speaker 2: Yellow Brick Tour Yellow Brick Road Tour actually, which brought

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Speaker 2: in nine hundred and thirty nine million US dollars, even

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Speaker 2: though that had over three hundred and thirty shows. Now

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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty versus who are one forty nine? Right,

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Speaker 2: he's done twice as much with half the shows. The

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Speaker 2: highest single concert attendance was in Melbourne, so if you

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Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff. Well done to Taylor Swift. Suppose now we

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Speaker 2: can stop talking about a soft lan your music. Heay

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Speaker 2: give ourself some respite. It was a hint. It was

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Speaker 2: a hint to Glenn Hey over in South Korea. Listen

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Speaker 2: on the impeachment matter. Now, the president there has escaped

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Speaker 2: the impeachment for that martial law stunt that he's pulled,

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Speaker 2: authorities have imposed a travel ban on him and a

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Speaker 2: bunch of others who were also involved, including the Army

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Speaker 2: Chief of stuff. He is still the president because despite

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Speaker 2: all the calls for him to res he's refusing to resign.

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Speaker 2: Still the president, just a president that can't leave the country.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen past six.

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Speaker 3: How of my news talks.

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Speaker 2: B Yeah, the B and Z refused to lend me

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Speaker 2: with fossil fuel. Now, I've got to be honestly, I'm

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Speaker 2: not altogether surprised by that. And the reason for that

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Speaker 2: is we've actually we've actually had somebody get in contact

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Speaker 2: with us who's in exactly the same situation. They say

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Speaker 2: they already own a fuel stop, they've got a gas station.

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Speaker 2: But one of the banks, and I think it might

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Speaker 2: be bn Z, actually has said they will not lend

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Speaker 2: to them beyond twenty thirty because that's when all this

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Speaker 2: climate stuff starts kicking in. So the banking basically runs

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Speaker 2: out in about six years time. And if we're lucky,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll talk to them tomorrow. Let's see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past six Craft Andrew calla Jay am I well

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Speaker 2: for us, morning to you Andrew, very good morning ever

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Speaker 2: RBA day.

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Speaker 7: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: They going to do?

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Speaker 12: Not much?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's bit of a quiet start to the week domestically.

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Speaker 14: So we're looking across the Tasmum today at the Reserve

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Speaker 14: Bank over there. Their last chance this year, Heather to

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Speaker 14: reduce interest rates. As I said, it's probably looking like

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Speaker 14: they won't. Just as a reminder, they're our ocr sitting

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Speaker 14: at four and a quarter. Australia is a little bit

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Speaker 14: higher at four point three five. It's been there since

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Speaker 14: November twenty twenty three, but the forecast trajectories are quite different.

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Speaker 14: Remember they didn't push their cash rate any higher than

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Speaker 14: four point three five. We hit what five and a half,

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Speaker 14: so we've had quite a bit more of a roller

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Speaker 14: coaster ride. Governor Michelle Bullock doesn't seem to be in

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Speaker 14: any hurry to get the cash rate lower. Look, it

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Speaker 14: has appeared that their economy has been a bit more

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Speaker 14: resilient than ours, but there are now increasing calls across

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Speaker 14: the Tasman for interest rate relief. Now now get this

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Speaker 14: on a per capita basis, so per population, the Aussies

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Speaker 14: have now had negative GDP growth for seven consecutive quarters.

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Speaker 12: Now not dissimilar to us.

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Speaker 14: They've been saved in a sense by a big inward

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Speaker 12: But Heather, this is tough for the Aussies to take.

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Speaker 14: Remember, the lucky country had an amazing recession free run

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Speaker 14: didn't have a recession at headline level. So they're just

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Speaker 14: not used to this anemic growth. And the issue over

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they've have had a stronger jobs market than us.

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Speaker 14: You've had lots of Keiwis heading over there looking for work,

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Speaker 14: looking for those green depastures. Their consumer confidence is lifting

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Speaker 14: the market. Expectations are for no cut in the RBA

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Speaker 14: cash rate until the middle of next year. Well by

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Speaker 14: that stage, our official cashut we could be down at

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Speaker 14: three and a half by then, but they'll still be

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Speaker 14: up there. All will be revealed at four point thirty

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Speaker 14: this afternoon, Heather, and we'll report back on that tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are just except all right, listen on China.

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Speaker 2: No inflation.

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Speaker 12: There is no inflation in China. There's nothing.

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Speaker 14: So this is from one of our major trading partners

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Speaker 14: to another one China.

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Speaker 12: So inflation numbers yesterday, yep. Nothing.

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Speaker 14: In fact, the risk of deflation there remains very high.

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Speaker 14: They're November CPI printed at zero point two percent year

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Speaker 14: and yet that's.

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Speaker 12: The yearly number, Heather, point two percent. That was actually

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Speaker 12: low than expected. At this point.

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Speaker 14: The stimulus policies aren't having any real impact at all.

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Speaker 14: In October the number zero point three percent, So it's fallen.

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Speaker 14: a miss.

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Speaker 12: On a month to month basis.

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Speaker 14: Their CPI fell zero point six percent, fell zero point

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Speaker 12: Core CPI a little bit higher.

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Speaker 2: that's the whole lot of them. Pack and Save Silverdale

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Speaker 7: You've got my attention. Pack and save Silverdale's. That's where

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Speaker 2: When you go to the Tim tamisle and you see

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Glenn? We can ask all of these questions for you

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Speaker 2: It was a tough old year for Air New Zealand,

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Speaker 17: Greg, good morning, how are you.

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Speaker 17: Well, the good news is we've still got cookie time cookies,

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Speaker 2: Oh good. Now, listen, the thing that is getting the

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Speaker 17: I can tell you we are doing everything we can,

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Speaker 17: run in the same aircraft. So when you actually break

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Speaker 17: it down and say, what's your cancelation rate your jets

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Speaker 17: where they operate, Yeah, that's different to what it is

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Speaker 17: on the turbo props. Now the turbo props, we're finding

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Speaker 17: it more difficult to get part and those planes are

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Speaker 17: also spread out more around the country, so we've got

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Speaker 17: to get engineers places. But actually, on a like for

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Speaker 17: life basis, our cancelation rate is actually the same as.

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Speaker 2: Jetst It doesn't matter. I mean, if you're if you're

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Speaker 2: a customer in I don't know, let's say Napier and

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Speaker 2: you're catching a smaller plane, doesn't really matter what the

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Speaker 2: plane is, right, You're still getting canceled.

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Speaker 17: I agree with you. I don't disagree for a customer,

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Speaker 17: and when.

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Speaker 2: You can and when this is the thing I got,

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Speaker 2: I book you in New Zealand because I like, in

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Speaker 2: my head, I like the luxury of it, right, so

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Speaker 2: I'm expecting a better service.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, look, I accept we've got to get on top

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Speaker 17: of that. Heather and I can tell you we're working

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Speaker 17: really really hard to do it, to get everything that

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Speaker 17: we can so we get this thing operating well most

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Speaker 17: times we do, but when we don't apologize for.

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Speaker 2: That, hey, are you going to go back to London?

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Speaker 17: We will. Actually the question is when we actually put

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Speaker 17: in for some slots we didn't expect to get them.

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Speaker 17: Slots of the ability to land.

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Speaker 2: And take off, you get the gap wet ones.

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Speaker 17: Gatwick came back and said yes, and they said, look,

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Speaker 17: you can start in April next year. That got us

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Speaker 17: excited initially, but of course the problem I've got is

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Speaker 17: I haven't got any planes. I was talking to the

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Speaker 17: chief executive at Barn Kelly, who's the new chaplain in charge.

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Speaker 17: I was over there four weeks ago meeting with him.

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Speaker 17: We're desperately trying to get these planes. We're working hard

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Speaker 17: on doing that, but you know, we have to be

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Speaker 17: in the queue along with United and Delta and CAFA

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Speaker 17: and British Airways, and we were in that queue. But

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Speaker 17: we expect to get those planes the beginning of twenty

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Speaker 17: twenty six, so they're still over a year away, and

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Speaker 17: in sometime that year, with a bit of luck, we'll

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Speaker 17: be able to get London back up and.

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Speaker 2: Right any days where you regret coming back from Walmart

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand to do this, and now you've been

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Speaker 2: lumped with this company.

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Speaker 17: You know, it's not a question that I actually consider,

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Speaker 17: to be honest with you, Heather. You know, when you're

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Speaker 17: in it, you're just going to get on with it.

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Speaker 17: And it has been interesting, hasn't it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 17: I started the day we stopped flowing to Shanghai. Five

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Speaker 17: weeks later we closed the airline down. Basically apart from

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Speaker 17: repatriation in cargo, was mad two and a half years

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Speaker 17: doing a capital raise. We then went flat out trying

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Speaker 17: to get the thing open again quickly, and then we've

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Speaker 17: had supply chain issues and engine problems. But that's okay.

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Speaker 17: You get on with it. And you know, we did

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Speaker 17: get voted by customers is the best airline in the

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Speaker 17: world three months ago, and I'm really proud of the

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Speaker 17: team for doing that. And you know, I came back

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Speaker 17: on a bunch of other airlines this week. You know,

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Speaker 17: I've been in Europe and I can tell you we

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Speaker 17: stand up very very well, very well the quality of

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Speaker 17: our food, our service, way that our team look after

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Speaker 17: our customers. I would put them against anyone out there.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Greek, the one thing you guys

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Speaker 2: have got going for is you have an excellent team. Listen,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, Enjoy your Christmas and best of

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Speaker 2: black next year. That's Greek four and in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: CE I'm getting texts already, by the way, just on

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Speaker 2: another subject, on the six head and the parents. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get you across that shortly quarter.

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Speaker 2: I've had my second flight in two days, canceled on

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand at a peak time Wellington to Auckland,

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Speaker 2: now offering me a flight at one o'clock to day.

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Speaker 2: It's a joke and the texts are like that pretty

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Speaker 2: much as you can imagine. Twelve away from seven.

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Speaker 18: Captn International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, peace of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Captain Field in France with us right now. Hey Catherine,

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Speaker 2: good morning heaven you've been seeing not to dime yet?

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Speaker 2: Oh have I ever? Have I ever?

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Speaker 19: Got in there? Pretty much a fabulous, absolutely extraordinary Oh

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Speaker 19: I mean, where does one start they've taken away what

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Speaker 19: eight one hundred and fifty years of grime of can

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Speaker 19: of all the debris of candle, smoke of incense, smoke

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Speaker 19: of just taking it away. And you you walk in

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Speaker 19: and you get this extraordinary perspective of what those architects

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Speaker 19: originally wanted. They wanted height, they wanted width, they wanted length,

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Speaker 19: and you get that and it's just the light that

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Speaker 19: comes in. And at the same time you get this

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Speaker 19: enormous appreciation of the work that's gone and to make

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Speaker 19: it like they're true, over five years, all these specialists

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Speaker 19: came in and just redid it. And you look at

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Speaker 19: that and you just immediately understand what a huge undertaking

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Speaker 19: this was then, and you as you go through, you know,

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Speaker 19: and you talk crimes are lucky enough to be able

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Speaker 19: to talk to each of the crafts people as as

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Speaker 19: going along, and you understand that you in this typical

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Speaker 19: present Macron way, they deliberately gave the contracts to Notre

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Speaker 19: Dame to small family firms all around France, so as

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Speaker 19: the economic effect of this would come through, it would

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Speaker 19: be great for them. And also that they got this

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Speaker 19: cathedral rebuilt using original techniques. So you now have this

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Speaker 19: whole number of tradesmen who have been built up, who

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Speaker 19: have been taught the skills of carpentry, roofing, painting, your

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Speaker 19: delicate handwork, all this have been done and they've all

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Speaker 19: been done through little firms, French firms, rather than giving

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Speaker 19: it to one big company. So you go through and

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Speaker 19: you just see your on a week when you've got

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Speaker 19: political turmoil on France, you see the flip side of it,

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Speaker 19: which is the potential to do a job like this and.

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Speaker 2: To do it well. I know that macrom thinks it's

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Speaker 2: going to play well for him politically. Is it realistic?

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Speaker 2: Not really?

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Speaker 19: I mean, the French won't be duped by this. His

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Speaker 19: approval rating is about twenty three percent at the moment,

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Speaker 19: which for a French president isn't bad. But yeah, he

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Speaker 19: had hoped that it would give a new lease of

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Speaker 19: political life to him. I don't think it will because

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Speaker 19: he's still struggling to find a prime minister. But certainly

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Speaker 19: that didn't stop him stealing the limelight for a whole

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Speaker 19: day and particularly getting that all important trilateral meeting between

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Speaker 19: incoming President the US Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky.

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Speaker 19: He certainly had hope that would show that he's the

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Speaker 19: man in this new world to be able to bring

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Speaker 19: people together. I'm not sure it went too far. Trump

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Speaker 19: came out of that trilateral meeting wanting an immediate ceasfire,

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Speaker 19: and Zelensky came out of it saying that there needs

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Speaker 19: to be a just and strong peace. So he might

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Speaker 19: have brought them all together. Might have been a great

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Speaker 19: photo op. Might have been that very awkward handshake between

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Speaker 19: Macron and Trump, which seemed to be a real sort

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Speaker 19: of grip rather than a gentle handshake. But for the moment,

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Speaker 19: that's all that SEMs to have come out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. It always is the way. Hey, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much appreciated. That's Catherine Field, France correspondent. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: big news obviously from Nikola Willis and Chris Luxan at

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Speaker 2: the post cabinet press conference on the Kiwi bank thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm struggling to get excited about it because most of

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Speaker 2: the stuff we already knew, and now we find out

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Speaker 2: we have to wait four years for that. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a great idea, Partially salad. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: a government owns one hundred percent of a bank, but

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Speaker 2: so I'm on board with the idea. I just don't

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Speaker 2: want to have to wait four years. But anyway, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to an investment banker after seven see if they're

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Speaker 2: going to chuck the money into it. Nine away from seven, either.

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Speaker 2: Be Donald Trump has announced he will refuse the presidential salary.

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Speaker 2: It's actually not bad. It's a four hundred thousand salary,

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Speaker 2: he says. I'm not going to accept a salary. No,

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Speaker 2: I didn't take it the first time. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I got no credit for that. But that's okay. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's obviously not okay because that's.

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Speaker 7: Just a brag. Not a humble brag. Is it what

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Speaker 7: that is?

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Speaker 2: It's just a brag. Yeah, that's a brag. Winge. Actuallyre's

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Speaker 2: a winge brag. I didn't and I'm not going to.

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Speaker 2: I just feel it's for me. It's a nice thing

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Speaker 2: to do. So that is nice from him. If he

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Speaker 2: does this, which he says he's going to do, take

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Speaker 2: him at his word, he will be the first ever

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Speaker 2: president to do it. Two times five away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the inns are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the biz with business fiber take your business productivity to.

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Speaker 3: The next level.

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Speaker 20: Right.

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Speaker 2: So we've got the ASB Regional Economic scorecard for you

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Speaker 2: this morning score board, and you're creaming it if you

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Speaker 2: live in the bottom half of the South Island. Otago,

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Speaker 2: Canterbury Southland best three regions in the country. I don't

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Speaker 2: need to tell them that though they already known and

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Speaker 2: now this is based year on year growth across a

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Speaker 2: So Otago got the number one spot, with the rebounding

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Speaker 2: tourism seen as the biggest boost for them. Also has

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Speaker 2: the fourth highest population growth. Canterbury's come in second, has

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Speaker 2: the highest population growth after Auckland, plus better employment in

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Speaker 2: the top three after falling out at the start of

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Speaker 2: the year. Now the region has achieved four point six

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Speaker 2: percent growth this year has ranked fifth for population growth

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Speaker 2: as people move away from the big cities. But it's

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Speaker 2: not all sunshine and rainbows, obviously, because let's talk about Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Klin continues to tumble down the rankings, now sitting in fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: plateauing regional tourism a week, labor market negative zero points

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Speaker 2: six percent annual house sales compared to the national average

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Speaker 2: of seven point four Two other biggest losers Northlands dropping

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Speaker 2: down to thirteenth place. That's because of the house prices,

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Speaker 2: and the other was Wycat or can't stay in the

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Speaker 2: top five drop to nine, equal with Bay of Plenty.

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Speaker 2: They've got difficulty in employment, construction and retail sales. Okay,

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Speaker 2: listen to this on the old sex head right said,

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Speaker 2: I've got some text on it already. Fascinating recommendations from

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Speaker 2: the EER. Their recmparents are getting too much of a

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Speaker 2: say on what the schools are teaching and it's leading

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Speaker 2: to inconsistencies across the schools, and so schools need to

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Speaker 2: just tell parents what's happening rather than consult parents. This

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Speaker 2: is going to flip a lot of parents out. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you this now because especially when it comes to

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. So the government's given a little

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Speaker 2: more detail about the grand plan for Kiwi Bank. It

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Speaker 2: will be part privatized. Only Kiwis and Kiwi Saver funds

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Speaker 2: markets expert Andrew Body has with been our Handrew, Hi,

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Speaker 2: would you put money.

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Speaker 21: In only if I can buy the shares of blowing Ta.

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Speaker 21: Kiwibank isn't earning its cost of capital which is about

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Speaker 21: eleven or twelve percent. It looks like it's retune is

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Speaker 21: much lower than this, so you really have to be

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Speaker 21: buying Blowing Ta, which is obviously going to highlight the

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Speaker 21: value destruction that's occurred there.

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Speaker 2: Is it smart to limited just to locals?

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Speaker 21: Well, my views, you always want to get the lowest

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Speaker 21: cost of capital and that that's going to be from overseas.

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Speaker 21: I mean, I think the proposal alreally highlights the intersection

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Speaker 21: of being profitability, competition regulation in New Zealand. The king

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Speaker 21: Banks being around for twenty three odd years, it's not

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Speaker 21: able to have been an averick in that in that time,

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Speaker 21: and in fact, the most sensible thing for Key Bank

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Speaker 21: is to try to join the banking oligopoly, and that's

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Speaker 21: what that's what investors will want it to do if

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Speaker 21: they focused on return.

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Speaker 2: You're making it sound like you don't believe it's actually

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Speaker 2: going to be a disruptor and create competition.

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Speaker 21: No, I don't. I think it won't do any harm.

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Speaker 21: But it's not the panacea. You know, what is the

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Speaker 21: real problem here, which the Commerce Commission's study really highlighted,

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Speaker 21: is regulatory overreach by the Reserve Bank, NB and FMA.

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Speaker 21: A lot of bank regulation just doesn't meet an objective

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Speaker 21: cost benefit analysis. Capital ratios, risk weights, lending classes, bank

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Speaker 21: outsourcing rules, triple CFA AML. They've all increased bank concentration,

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Speaker 21: increased bank costs, prevented entry into the market and courage

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Speaker 21: to exit, reduced flexibility, etc.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of having to wait until it

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Speaker 2: does its digital transformation in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 21: Look, I don't have a view about that, but I mean,

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Speaker 21: I guess it just pushes out any impact you know,

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Speaker 21: raising new capital might have for q banks increase lending

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Speaker 21: in the market.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, thanks very much for talking us through it

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Speaker 2: and body investment banker financial markets.

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Speaker 3: Expert together do for see Alan.

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Speaker 2: But the government's announced it's planning to reintroduce pay docking

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Speaker 2: for partial strikes. Now at the moment, workers can only

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Speaker 2: have their pay dock for full strikes. It used to

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Speaker 2: be for partial strikes as well, but then they are doing.

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Speaker 2: Government scrapped that in twenty eighteen. Alan McDonald is from

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Speaker 2: the Employers and Manufacturers Association the EMAA.

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Speaker 4: Alan, Morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Is it basically what we've created here by not docking

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Speaker 2: the partial strikes is we're basically incentivized workers to just

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Speaker 2: do the partial strikes so they can keep their full pay. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were a bit surprised about the announcement yesterday,

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Speaker 4: but it was one of the things we campaigned quite

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Speaker 4: hard against back in two twenty eighteen. I think they

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Speaker 4: bought it them and the reason for that was that

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Speaker 4: we expected strike action to increase and that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: Why were you surprised? Did you not ask this government

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Speaker 2: to reverse it?

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been on the agenda anywhere. I mean, they've

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Speaker 4: been doing a number of different things around employment law

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Speaker 4: and stuff and sort of rebalancing some of it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: this one was a bit of a surprise.

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Speaker 2: Now run the risk though, of potentially pushing people who

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Speaker 2: are going to strike into just going on a full

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Speaker 2: strike rather than a partial strike.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Strike strike actions generally tend to be

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Speaker 4: a last resort kind of thing what they used to be,

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Speaker 4: But when you're getting paid to go on strike, it's

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Speaker 4: sort of pull them forward a bit. So, you know,

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Speaker 4: workers have the right to withhold their labor, but so

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Speaker 4: do your employers have the right to withhold the pay

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Speaker 4: because generally the agreement is you turn up for work,

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Speaker 4: you get paid. If you don't turn up to do

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Speaker 4: the job you're supposed to do, you don't get paid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are people going to get paid for working to rule?

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Speaker 4: Not sure? It looks like a slightly complicated process to

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Speaker 4: do something like that. I don't have to go to

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Speaker 4: the Employment Relations Authority and things like that.

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Speaker 2: So rule, I mean, because allen working to rule is

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Speaker 2: just working to the leader of your contract, doesn't it

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Speaker 2: literally doing your job? So you should get your full

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Speaker 2: paid for that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah you should?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, brilliant. Hey, thanks very much. Really appreciates Alan

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Speaker 2: McDonald of the EMA twelve Pass seven Heaver, We've got

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Speaker 2: a statement from Pack and Save Silverdale and Pack and

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Speaker 2: Save Mills Street in response to the fact that the

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Speaker 2: Commis Commissions announced that it's going to be laying criminal

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Speaker 2: charges against these guys, including also Wilworth's New Zealand over

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Speaker 2: alleged misleading sales and inaccurate prices and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: As I told you earlier, it's really taking the response

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Speaker 2: up quite a notch now. The statement from Pack and

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Speaker 2: Save Silverdlle and Mill Street says food Stuff's North Island

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Speaker 2: stores process millions of transactions a day eras are relatively rare,

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Speaker 2: but they agree that any inaccurate pricing is unacceptable. They're

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Speaker 2: working hard to ensure that the price customers see on

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Speaker 2: the shelf is always what they pay at the checkout,

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Speaker 2: and that all specials offer clear savings. And if a

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Speaker 2: customer believes they haven't been charged the correct price, they're

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Speaker 2: encouraged just as if you notice, of course, which we don't,

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Speaker 2: and then you are encouraged to let the store teams

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Speaker 2: know so that you can get your refund directly if

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Speaker 2: you have been and overcharged. So anyway we have to

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Speaker 2: see how that one plays out. Chris Luxen just remember

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Speaker 2: is with us after half past seven? It's thirteen past

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Speaker 2: the Mike asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast ton I have

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Speaker 2: radio powered by news talks at be Heathery aid to

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Speaker 2: Docking partial strikes because the teachers strike last year as

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Speaker 2: an example of students and parents hurting and the teachers not.

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Speaker 2: They lost absolutely nothing and that's exactly what would happen.

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Speaker 2: Teacher takes a day off, it's a day's pay. No

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Speaker 2: longer they're sixteen past seven.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: It turns out, on the subject of education, parents are

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Speaker 2: getting too much of a say on what's being taught

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Speaker 2: on the old sex ed in school. The ERO has

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Speaker 2: done some research reckons there should be less consultation and

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Speaker 2: more explanation instead. In the head of ro's Educational Evaluation Center,

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Speaker 2: Ruth Chanoda's with us. Hey, Ruth, one thing less consultation

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Speaker 2: or no consultation.

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Speaker 20: What we're saying is you should be requiring schools to

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Speaker 20: inform parents about what they're going to teach and explain

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Speaker 20: it really well, because we found out that when parents

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Speaker 20: are better informed, they're a lot more comfortable, and that's

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Speaker 20: what they want rather than confooting inform it, explain it,

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Speaker 20: and the next your parents who aren't comfortable with what's

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Speaker 20: been taught are able to take their child out.

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Speaker 17: Of that class.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what are we talking about here? What are

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Speaker 2: the things that are sticky, because it sounded like it

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Speaker 2: might be that the more contra virtual stuff, right, gender stuff,

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Speaker 2: sexual identity stuff, rather than actually this is how it

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Speaker 2: all works.

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Speaker 5: So you're right.

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Speaker 20: We are asked by the Ministication to review the whole

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Speaker 20: of relationship and sexual education, and we found actually nearly

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Speaker 20: all nine out of ten parents and students really support

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Speaker 20: it being taught at school, particularly as we're in a

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Speaker 20: more challenging world with those online risks and that the

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Speaker 20: students are now facing. So there's a lot of supports

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Speaker 20: that being taught at school, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 20: support for actually been taught more on key subjects because

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Speaker 20: this criptum has been in place since two thousand and

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Speaker 20: seven and the world has changed then. So most parents

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Speaker 20: and students want personal safety and bullying taught earlier, and

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Speaker 20: the third of parents want their children to learn more

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Speaker 20: about concent And then, as we said, there are just

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Speaker 20: some topics where parents have differing views and that makes

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Speaker 20: it really difficult for schools because they're stuck in the

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Speaker 20: middle trying to reconcile that. And that's not really fair

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Speaker 20: on schools.

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Speaker 2: Why do you reckon dad's want least sixed than mums.

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Speaker 20: So what we found is that mothers have a stronger

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Speaker 20: focus on sort of safety as their children. We found

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Speaker 20: in this report, so key topics that mothers want to

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Speaker 20: is around consent, ensuring their kids are safe, that they

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Speaker 20: know the things they need to know, and that was

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Speaker 20: just less of a focus for fathers. We also found though,

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Speaker 20: that boys wanted to learn all topics later than girls

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Speaker 20: year why so some of that we heard from the boys.

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Speaker 20: Some of them are just mature a little bit later,

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Speaker 20: so they're wanting to learn it when it's more relevant.

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Speaker 20: So that's why we're recommending that we keep teaching it

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Speaker 20: after the age of fourteen.

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Speaker 2: And does that make sense to you, because I mean

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Speaker 2: boys are going online and looking at the you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, the things I shouldn't be looking at from

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Speaker 2: a really young age, way before girls.

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Speaker 20: So what we're finding from boys saying is some of

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Speaker 20: those body changes are later, but also girls have got

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Speaker 20: stronger focus on keeping themselves safe. So the things that

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Speaker 20: girls are wanting earlier, in particular were those online safety

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Speaker 20: where they're pacing quite a lot of risks that didn't

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Speaker 20: feel the same level for boys. But what they are

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Speaker 20: both saying to us nine out of ten is they

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Speaker 20: want this taught at school, and actually on keyotopics that

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Speaker 20: girls and boys agreeing they want it more. And then

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Speaker 20: we recommending we should keep teaching it after fourteen. It's

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Speaker 20: just too early to stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ruth, you are prepared for the pushback you're going

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Speaker 2: to get back, get on the side from parents.

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Speaker 20: So actually the parents we spoke to there was a

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Speaker 20: huge support for having it taught, and in those key

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Speaker 20: topics where they're just say in the curriculums a bit

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Speaker 20: out of datad, there was a lot of support for

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Speaker 20: some of those topics being spoken earlier. And then parents

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Speaker 20: said they actually want to be more informed. So I

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Speaker 20: think they'll welcome our recommendation that we require schools before

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Speaker 20: they teach it to inform and explain it to parents

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Speaker 20: and make your parents know they're not.

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Speaker 2: More like the parents. I tell you now, Ruth, the

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Speaker 2: tics machines already started up on this say parents will

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Speaker 2: be I imagine quite upset about not being consulted.

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Speaker 20: Don't you think the parents we spoke to were mostly

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Speaker 20: focusing on wanting to be informed if we had time

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Speaker 20: in a game that parents didn't know what their students

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Speaker 20: were learning, and we found that if they didn't know,

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Speaker 20: they were less comfortable with it. When parents were better informed,

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Speaker 20: they were more comfortable. But it's definitely true that parents

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Speaker 20: also said to us, if it doesn't align with their views,

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Speaker 20: values and faith, they want that ability to take that

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Speaker 20: child out of the class. And we think that's important too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, listen, good luck with that, because I think

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Speaker 2: you're onto something here, but I do think you're can

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Speaker 2: to get some resistance. That's Ruth Shanoda, head of the

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Speaker 2: e ro's Educational Evaluation Center. Yep, Paul'll have a look

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Speaker 2: at those texts for you in a minute, give you

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Speaker 2: a little taster of them. Heither, do you think you

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Speaker 2: could have got away with criticizing Jacinda Idn like you

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Speaker 2: are with Chris Luxon telling her cut her hair, get

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Speaker 2: her teeth facts. I don't think so this is about Chris.

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Speaker 2: This is apropos. I feel like this is apropos. Actually

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Speaker 2: a discussion that we had yesterday on the show about

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Speaker 2: Chris luxon being baled.

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Speaker 7: I think if just Sinder I Done had a shiny

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Speaker 7: bald head would probably comment.

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Speaker 2: I think it would. Yeah, I think it would be

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Speaker 2: a subject. I think we'll talk about it. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about whether she should be running for prime minister with

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Speaker 2: a bald head that she's gone to the effort of

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Speaker 2: Chris luckson with us after half past seven and we

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Speaker 3: Heather du Percy Ellen seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four Right, Well, we've had a flurry of polls just

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. Of all of them,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think most I think we can agree

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Speaker 2: most of them don't matter because it's a couple of

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Speaker 2: years away from the election stuff. But I think of

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Speaker 2: all of them, the one out this morning as the

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Speaker 2: most important by far, because this is actually the polling

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting for months now. I've wanted to know

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Speaker 2: how people feel about the Treaty Principal's Bill, and now

913
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Speaker 2: we've got it. So what it is is it's done

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Speaker 2: by Curier Polling on behalf of Hobson's pledge, and it

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Speaker 2: measures the support basically for the general ideas of the

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Speaker 2: Treaty Principal's Bill. I reckon, I'm gonna run you through

917
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Speaker 2: the numbers, but I reckon that this is the clearest

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Speaker 2: proof yet that our Prime Minister is making a mistake

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Speaker 2: by killing off the Treaty Principal's Bill because his own

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Speaker 2: supporters actually like what's in that bill. So, according to

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Speaker 2: this poll, hardly any National Party voters want things to

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Speaker 2: stay the way they are. They do not like it

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Speaker 2: with the Treaty Principles. Only nine percent of them want

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Speaker 2: the courts to keep on deciding what the Treaty Principal's Bill,

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Speaker 2: but what the Treaty Principles are, that's the status quo.

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Speaker 2: Nine percent want the Treaty Principles to stay in the

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Speaker 2: status quo or whopping fifty nine percent want to do

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Speaker 2: it differently. They want either Parliament or ask the people

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Speaker 2: to decide, which is basically exactly what the Treaty Principles

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Speaker 2: Bill is intending to do. More than three quarters of

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Speaker 2: National Party voters want universal human rights to trump any

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Speaker 2: special rights that anybody may perceive that the Treaty confers. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think what you're seeing here is that part of

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Speaker 2: the reason that Chris Luxon is having a tough time

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Speaker 2: in the polls in general is because if you're a

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Speaker 2: National Party voter and you care about treaty issues and

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Speaker 2: race relation issues, then National is at risk of losing

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Speaker 2: you to Act because National is not doing what you want,

939
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Speaker 2: but Act is doing what you want. And even if

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Speaker 2: you don't care about treaty issues, which a lot of

941
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Speaker 2: people don't, then what you're seeing as a Prime Minister

942
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Speaker 2: who is scared to actually have an opinion on this

943
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Speaker 2: and do something right. So on ice I, I've got

944
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Speaker 2: to be honest about it. It's on something judging by

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Speaker 2: this polling, that I think most of us have an

946
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Speaker 2: opinion on, even even if we don't rate it as

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Speaker 2: something that's very important to us. Once we're asked to

948
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Speaker 2: have an opinion. We've got an opinion, So how can

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Speaker 2: we have an opinion but our Prime minister doesn't have

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Speaker 2: an opinion? Being a WARS is never that attractive, right Truly,

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Speaker 2: the other polls out that came out yesterday don't matter.

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Speaker 2: It's too far away from the election for that stuff

953
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Speaker 2: to matter. But this pole matters because it's never great

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Speaker 2: for a party leader to be on the opposite side

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Speaker 2: of the debate from his own party members.

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Speaker 3: Heather DU's going to be.

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Speaker 2: With us after half past seven, so we'll put it

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Speaker 2: to him and I might run you through some more

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Speaker 2: of the polling data that's come out of that. Heather

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Speaker 2: no Er blocking parents from protecting their kids are from transgenderism.

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Speaker 2: I think this is what people perceive that the Sex

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Speaker 2: Said is about. It's about all of that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 2: really kind of controversial, sticky stuff, if you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what people are upset about. Heither not Okay,

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Speaker 2: this should be one hundred percent the responsibility their parents,

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Speaker 2: not the ro here. Then maybe you should attend to

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Speaker 2: Sex Said class. If you're wondering what the sticky things are,

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Speaker 2: I think we know right here. How the hell can

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Speaker 2: that person from the ear say that about fathers, that

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Speaker 2: Era needs to stay the hell away from our kids'

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Speaker 2: re sexual education. I think that, to be honest, I

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Speaker 2: think the ro knows that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a really prickly issue and a really tricky one because

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Speaker 2: it clearly is right. If the schools are going out

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Speaker 2: and consulting about, hey can we teach the stuff? Parents

976
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Speaker 2: are getting involved and then it all gets it all changes.

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Speaker 2: Clearly parents have an opinion anyway. Chris lux is with

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Speaker 2: us very shortly. News dogs Head been.

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Speaker 3: Tell me that you setting the news agenda and digging

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Speaker 3: into the issues.

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Speaker 1: Heather fle Ce Ellen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News dogs Head Bell.

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Speaker 2: Cassie Henderson, New Zealand singer is going to be with

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Speaker 2: us after eight o'clock. She's just put out in their

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Speaker 2: EP It's all about Heartbreak, one of the songs you'll know.

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Speaker 2: You probably won't even realize it's her, but a a

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Speaker 2: chat to her after eight with us. Right now at

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Speaker 2: twenty three to eight is Chris luxon Prime Minister Chrish, Hello.

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Speaker 15: Hello Loo, how are you going? You ve in the

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Speaker 15: morning's okay.

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Speaker 2: Mate, we've talked about what time do you get up in.

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Speaker 15: The morning, About four thirty, about four thirty thirty. You

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Speaker 15: do this seven days week. Well, there's a lot to do.

994
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 15: There's a lot. There's a country to sort out and

995
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 15: get turned around and hitting in the right direction. So

996
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Speaker 15: there's a hell of a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 15: That's what the good people in New Zealand elected me

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Speaker 15: to do, is to go to work. So that's what

999
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Speaker 15: I've got to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correctly, first thing in the morning. I don't think

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Speaker 2: people realize that Hoskin gets up at two thirty, which

1002
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Speaker 2: is quite a thing.

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Speaker 15: But anyway, and if you do the same thing, you

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Speaker 15: haven't get up.

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Speaker 2: There can't you can't be you can't be filling in

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Speaker 2: for the big guy and then dropping the ball.

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Speaker 15: So absolutely, Yah, you're under some pressure.

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Speaker 2: Any alarm for full thirty tomorrow and I'll think, oh, look,

1009
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Speaker 2: I've been for two hours longer than the perame minister.

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Speaker 3: It's unusual.

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Speaker 2: Liston what can you tell us about the fairy's announcement tomorrow?

1012
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 15: Can't tell you anything. Unfortunately, you just have to wait

1013
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 15: until the announcement comes. We said we'd do it before

1014
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Speaker 15: the end of the year. But we need to get

1015
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Speaker 15: a really good solution on the straight and we've worked

1016
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Speaker 15: hard to make sure that we can. But spending three

1017
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Speaker 15: point two billion dollars with further risk of overruns wasn't

1018
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Speaker 15: the way forward, and so we need a proper solution

1019
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 15: and that's what the team's been working on through the most.

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Speaker 4: Of the year.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us it's tomorrow.

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Speaker 15: I can't even tell you when it will be hither.

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Speaker 15: All I can say is I'm delivering on our commitment,

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Speaker 15: which is will make an announcement before the end of

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Speaker 15: the year, and unfortunately you just have to wait till then.

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Speaker 2: How annoyed do you yesterday in the post cabinet press conference,

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Speaker 2: where all the details were already out and a reporter

1028
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Speaker 2: was quoting them.

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Speaker 15: Back to you, Well, I don't talk about what happens

1030
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Speaker 15: in cabinet. And I know there's a lot of questions

1031
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Speaker 15: that were coming my way on that, but the answer

1032
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Speaker 15: is pretty straightforward. You know, we don't talk about what's

1033
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Speaker 15: happening in cabinet. We make sure that when we do.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's talking happening in cabinant, though, aren't they? Because you know,

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Speaker 2: it's two medium sized fairies, not rail enabled and might

1036
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Speaker 2: cost about nine hundred million bucks.

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Speaker 15: Well, i'd just be I just wait until the announcement

1038
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Speaker 15: comes to so not long ago.

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Speaker 2: Are we? Can you just tell me this though? The

1040
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Speaker 2: total package, right, the three billion dollars whatever you guys

1041
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Speaker 2: do now is not going to exceed that, is it correct?

1042
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Speaker 2: At least there's something there.

1043
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Speaker 4: This is not.

1044
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Speaker 15: I mean, the problem the problem here there was the

1045
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 15: last lot was that you know, you had a project

1046
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Speaker 15: that I think started off at under a billion, ended

1047
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Speaker 15: up blowing out like we've seen with Dunedin Hospital, like

1048
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Speaker 15: we've seen with everything else, up to three point two billion,

1049
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Speaker 15: and actually one fifth of it was around the boats

1050
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Speaker 15: and then the four fists of it was actually the

1051
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Speaker 15: infrastructure at the ports required to support those boats. And

1052
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Speaker 15: so you know that's where it was getting out of hand.

1053
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Speaker 2: But you know what I'm worried about.

1054
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Speaker 15: And there was no there was no sign that actually

1055
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 15: it wouldn't even get worse from there. I'm worried. So

1056
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 15: you're going to call to make the decision.

1057
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm worry about. What you're going to do is you're

1058
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: going to save a whole bunch of money on the

1059
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Speaker 2: port side. Infrastructure. But then you're going to end up

1060
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Speaker 2: blowing huge amounts of money on the fairies. And we

1061
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: could have had these two massive fairies for five hundred

1062
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: million or thereabouts, and now we're going to end up

1063
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Speaker 2: buying smaller fairies for more, do you know what I mean?

1064
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: Like the fairies.

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Speaker 15: But that was the problem, right, I mean, the fairies

1066
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Speaker 15: that were selected at that time required huge amounts of

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Speaker 15: different port infrastructure and both Wellington and Pickton and that's

1068
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Speaker 15: where the blowout and costs started to happen. So so

1069
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 15: you've got to get the whole system right. And frankly, yeah,

1070
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Speaker 15: I mean, as we talked about at the time, you know,

1071
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Speaker 15: you just can't have a blowout like that. It's just

1072
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Speaker 15: just not acceptable and no and no end in sight

1073
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Speaker 15: as to where it was going next. So look, we've

1074
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Speaker 15: done the right thing. I mean, and you'll get me

1075
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Speaker 15: a hard time and say a lot. You've got to

1076
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 15: be tough on managing the economy and we are. And

1077
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Speaker 15: so yep, we're not going to spend three billion dollars

1078
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 15: building indeed in hospital spend two. Yes, we're going to

1079
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Speaker 15: get a right sized option for the cock straight but

1080
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Speaker 15: we need to because every money that we just let overspend.

1081
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 15: There is money that we can't spend doing more schools, hospitals, roads,

1082
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Speaker 15: somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: We'll chat about it again next week once once we

1084
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Speaker 2: get the announcement tomorrow, probably listen to you, guys, despite

1085
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: all of the pressure you're getting on this boot camp trial,

1086
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: you guys going to push your head with this. You're

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Speaker 2: going to make the boot camps happen.

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Speaker 15: Look, I think the arguments ridiculous that I've heard in

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Speaker 15: the last twenty four hours, which is that, look, we've

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Speaker 15: got ten of our toughest, serious, most persistent young offenders.

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Speaker 15: They are really complex kids, come from challenge backgrounds, but

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Speaker 15: they are the hardest and the toughest of the toughest

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Speaker 15: that we've got. So what we've said is lot we're

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Speaker 15: going to have these military style academies. I've been in them,

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Speaker 15: I've seen them. I've seen huge amounts. I was really impressed.

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Speaker 15: I spent four hours there with the ten kids. It

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Speaker 15: was incredible. They've got mentors, they got support, they've got

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Speaker 15: people helping to get driver's licenses. They got everything, you know,

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Speaker 15: every opportunity to make a choice to live a better life.

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Speaker 15: And that's what we're presenting with them while we're also

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Speaker 15: keeping the public safe. And so you know, we've got

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Speaker 15: two things. One get the public safe. Two make an intervention,

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Speaker 15: because you know where those lives are going. You know,

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Speaker 15: they're just going to go into tougher, harder serious crime,

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Speaker 15: causing more pain and suffering across the community. So we'll

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Speaker 15: give them a shot. It's up to them to make

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Speaker 15: to do something with it. But you know, you know

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Speaker 15: a number of those kids have actually gone on to

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Speaker 15: actually find jobs or taken on education, and that's a major,

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Speaker 15: major thing. So I appreciate there will be there will

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Speaker 15: be still those that will reoffend, and that's the choice

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Speaker 15: that they make. But you know, everyone gets to live

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Speaker 15: a life of free will and choice. And at the

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Speaker 15: end of the day, all we've done is give them

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00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 15: an intervention that actually they haven't had from my mum

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Speaker 15: and dad, or from their family or from their community.

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Speaker 15: So the alternative of not doing it is sorry.

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Speaker 2: Do you need to tweak the intervention. Do you need

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Speaker 2: to make this they stay in the boot camp a

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Speaker 2: little bit longer, or increase the security that they have

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Speaker 2: when they're back in the community, or something to avoid

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Speaker 2: them doing what they've just done.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well we'll look into that. I mean, yeah, because

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Speaker 15: I think you're right. What we've set up as a

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Speaker 15: pilot right, so there was a three month residential piece,

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Speaker 15: a nine month community based piece. They actually do have

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Speaker 15: dedicated people with them through the community phase as well.

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Speaker 15: But there may well be as we now bring in

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Speaker 15: this young serious offender legislation and ability to work with

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Speaker 15: those younger people for longer in residences if we didn't

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Speaker 15: feel they were ready to return to the community. But

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Speaker 15: in the pilot construct, that wasn't something that we could do.

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Speaker 15: Under the new legislation, we possibly could play with that

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Speaker 15: if we feel it's appropriate. But all I just say

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Speaker 15: to you is, look, I just think it's a pretty

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00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 15: defeatist and negative mindset to say, look, we should try

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00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 15: to do something different, shouldn't we to keep the public

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Speaker 15: safe and to change the way these lives could go.

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Speaker 15: Because even if one of those ten actually ends up

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Speaker 15: changing their life and they don't go down a pathway

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Speaker 15: of gang life and violence and jail time and welfared

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Speaker 15: opinion see and all of that stuff and all the

1143
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Speaker 15: cost associate that, let alone all the harm. Isn't that

1144
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Speaker 15: what we're trying to do. It's called social investment and

1145
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 15: it's hard and it's hard stuff, but you have to

1146
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 15: stick with it. But the answer not to do it

1147
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 15: isn't the right up.

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Speaker 2: No, have you seen the curier polling out today on

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Speaker 2: the support for the Treaty Principles bill.

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Speaker 15: I haven't to be honest, as you know, I don't

1151
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 15: focused on poles because.

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Speaker 2: You need to get across this curst. You need to

1153
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: get across this because in the position that you're taking

1154
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: on it, so National Party voters do not want to

1155
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: leave things as though way they are the fifty nine percent,

1156
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: there's a vast majority of your own voters want Parliament,

1157
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: all the people, to decide what happens with the Treaty Principles.

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Speaker 15: Well, what I'd say to you is when I took

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Speaker 15: to National Party voters and the numbers that I see,

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Speaker 15: what matters much more than the treaty issues, frankly, is

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Speaker 15: actually fixing the economy, infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not arguing about that. I agree with you on.

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Speaker 15: Saliency of issue. Saliency of issue for National Party voters

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00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 15: and people and supporters, those things matter much more than

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00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 15: the treaty. Lutely, there'll be arrangers views within the party

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Speaker 15: on that.

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Speaker 2: But Chris, this is one of these issues. You ask

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Speaker 2: me what's important to me. I can tell you all

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Speaker 2: the things that are important to me. My child's education,

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00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: health care for myself, blah blah blah, all of those

1171
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: things in the economy. But you put the Treaty principles

1172
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Speaker 2: issue in front of people. They have an opinion, they

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00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: expect you to have an opinion, and you're sticking with

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Speaker 2: the status.

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Speaker 15: Well, I do asked what my opinion is. My opinion

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Speaker 15: is very simply that treaty issues are really complex. We've

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Speaker 15: grappled with them for one undred and eighty four years.

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Speaker 15: We believe in equal rights. We also have obligations under

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Speaker 15: the treaty. We've worked that through. It's been difficult, but

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Speaker 15: it's actually been positive for New Zealand. I believe over

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Speaker 15: one hundred and eighty four years. I think you've got

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00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 15: to shed a lot of what we're saying around division

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00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 15: and frustration back to Ardne and Hipkins who didn't take

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Speaker 15: people with them health authority. Enough with my argument, but you're.

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00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: Not doing anything and you've vote able to do.

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00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 15: No, we are doing something. So what we're saying is, look,

1187
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 15: there's immense frustration. But the answer isn't simply with the

1188
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Speaker 15: stroke of a pen to do a very simplistic principle spell.

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Speaker 15: The answer is to do what we are doing, which

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Speaker 15: is take a case by case, issue by issue. We've

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Speaker 15: unwound co governance on three waters. We've disbanded the Malori

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Speaker 15: Health Authority. We have been clear about public services delivered

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Speaker 15: on the basis of need. We've put maorywards back to

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Speaker 15: local communities as we said we would. We've gone through

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Speaker 15: the Maca Parliament to get back to the intention of

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Speaker 15: what was intended in twenty eleven. We're looking at treaty

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Speaker 15: principal references to make sure that's specific and relevant in legislation.

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Speaker 15: So we've got clarity uncertainty. So that's the practical stuff

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Speaker 15: that you need to do, and you do that on

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Speaker 15: a case by case, issue by issue basis. But to

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Speaker 15: think that you can just through the stroke of a

1202
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Speaker 15: pen to a pretty simplistic treaty principal spell and override

1203
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 15: one hundred and eighty four years of treaty discussion and debate.

1204
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 15: The treaty has made us better as a country. As difficult,

1205
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 15: we haven't always agreed, but everybody stays committed, and I

1206
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 15: just say to you go look at the history of

1207
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 15: First Nations people all around the world, and I'm really

1208
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 15: proud of actually what's happened over that period. As difficult

1209
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 15: as it may be, but we have a different way

1210
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 15: of looking at it, which is issue by issue, case

1211
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Speaker 15: by case, doing.

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00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: The practical and realistic Things's got to ask you something

1213
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: or I'm going to get in trouble about talking about

1214
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: you behind your back. Do you think your baldness is

1215
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: a superpower?

1216
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 15: Absolutely? I think bald is beautiful and I think you

1217
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 15: know that deep down because you married a beautiful bald

1218
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 15: man as well. And I am doing this job in

1219
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 15: part to advocate for the baldmen of New Zealand. You

1220
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 15: talk about positive affirmative action, That's what it is. It's

1221
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 15: like the baldman. I want all the baldmant news to

1222
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 15: know they are deeply loved, you know, by their Prime minister.

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Speaker 2: You know you can that is a that is a

1224
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: section of the voters you can go for herd. Hey, Chris,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much to to you next week, look

1226
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Speaker 2: after yourself. Chris Luxen, Prime Minister thirty and away from

1227
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Speaker 2: from eight.

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Speaker 2: Be hey, by the way over in the States, read

1231
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: the ceo shooting. This is the healthcare ceo shooting. The

1232
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: police have now identified the suspect, so that'll be the

1233
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: person they believe was holding the gun and shooting as

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Speaker 2: Luigi mun Giorne. And it's unclear at the moment as

1235
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Speaker 2: to whether the guy that they've arrested in Pennsylvania will

1236
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: taken in Pennsylvania is the same person. But any well,

1237
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Speaker 2: keep you posted on the developments Hither. Once again, Chris

1238
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: Luxon just threw a sidestep about the Treaty Principles bill.

1239
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Doesn't want to go there. It's so obvious it's going

1240
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: to be his downfall. Hither, we want both the treaty

1241
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: a Treaty bill done and the economy Heather, feel free

1242
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: to tell Chris Luxon at sixty three years of age,

1243
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: having voted National all my life, I've emailed both Nationals

1244
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: headquarters and Chris Bishop saying if it doesn't support the

1245
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: race Relations Bill from Act, they will have lost my

1246
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: vote for the remainder of my life.

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Speaker 22: Now.

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00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: So what I was quoting to Chris Luxen was just

1249
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: the breakdown of the National Party voters right and what

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00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: they think. But I'll give you I'll give you the

1251
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: breakdown across all voters. So this is across Green voters,

1252
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: Labor voters, Act voters, national voters. Massive majority support the

1253
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: fundamental ideas behind the Treaty Principles Bill. So when people

1254
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: were asked, who do you think should have a final

1255
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: say on what the Treaty principles are? The judiciary and

1256
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: the White Tonguey Tribunal being basically the status quote those

1257
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: guys who currently decide what the treaty principles are. Only

1258
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of people said, yeah, leave it with

1259
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: the leave it with the judges, leave it with the

1260
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Speaker 2: White Tonguey Tribunal. Fifty four percent of people double it

1261
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: said that they wanted to be up to us via

1262
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 2: a referendum or up to Parliament to decide what should

1263
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: happen with the Treaty principles. And then on the issue

1264
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: of like do you have special rights conferred by the

1265
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: treaty so special Ewie rights or just universal rights that

1266
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: trump everything, again massive majority saying we want universal rights.

1267
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: Only twelve percent said go for the special Treaty rights,

1268
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: sixty two percent say go for the universal rights. So

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00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: if you were wondering, and I have been wandering for

1270
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: months now, where where does the support lie? Is it

1271
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: going to be popular or overwhelming? Not even a question

1272
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly popular what actor is doing. It's whether people can

1273
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: kind of get into that they support the general idea,

1274
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: whether they understand that is what is going on with

1275
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: the treaty principle's belt, which is quite complicated. I don't know,

1276
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, Chris Luxon definitely not on the popular side

1277
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: of this one. Eight away from mate.

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00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Heather du puy Ellen on the My Costing Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Veda Retirement Communities News, Tom said.

1280
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Speaker 2: Be Heather, God only created a few perfect heads and

1281
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: the rest he covered with hair, which is why he's

1282
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: able to this is Chris Luxe and able to actually

1283
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: rock the bald head because his head is perfectly shaped. Hey,

1284
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to make you feel miserable on a

1285
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Tuesday before before even before eight o'clock, but I'm going

1286
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: to put your paypack into some perspective for you right now.

1287
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: There's a guy called Juan Soto who plays baseball. If

1288
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: you haven't heard of him, he's going to sign with

1289
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: the New York Mets. He's apparently just been offered the

1290
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: biggest contract in the history of sport. This chap, if

1291
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: he signs this contract, is going to be paid seven

1292
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five million dollars and that's in USD

1293
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: so that's one point three billion New Zealand dollars over

1294
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: fifteen years. Has to do a medical first. I mean,

1295
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: they want to make sure that what the signing is

1296
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: in pristine condition. And as long as he passes that medical,

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Speaker 2: he's in. He's in with the dollars fifteen years a

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Speaker 2: twenty six year old at the minute. And so if

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Speaker 2: he sees the contract through which presume after the medical

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: obviously they'll be sure of that he'll be forty one.

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: That is like, Okay, the money is eye watering, but

1302
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: the evidence that this boy is going to be in

1303
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: good nick in fifteen years time is also quite remarkable.

1304
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: Because I don't know if you're aware of it, but

1305
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: here it places like where we work here at z

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00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: B we get contracts over a period. Nobody signs for

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00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: fifteen years, Nobody gets off for fifteen years. We don't

1308
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: know if you're still going to be Okay, in fifteen years,

1309
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: you might biden on us, you might go a bit weird,

1310
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: might do all kinds of weird things in fifteen years time. Now, imagine.

1311
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: So it's a risk just with people like us who

1312
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: sit on our butts and talk for fifteen years. This

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: guy's an athlete. Imagine that fifteen years one point three

1314
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: billion dollars. Good on him. I have to just give

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Speaker 2: a quick shout out to my all mate, Patsy Ready.

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: So I was chatting about Patsy Ready yesterday I said,

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Speaker 2: what's Patsy still doing at the end z Areu board?

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00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: Why is she still there? She says she's going to quit. Well,

1319
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Speaker 2: speak at the devil. She's got to suffer. A new job.

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Speaker 2: Dame Patsy was announced yesterday as the chair of the

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Speaker 2: Climate Change Commission. She'll be replacing Rod car who left

1322
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: the job last week. No particular expertise I can see

1323
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: in climate change, but that doesn't actually matter because she's

1324
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: got an extensive and distinguished career in law and governance

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01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: and a thick skin because that's a job where you

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01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: get ignored by the government. So good luck to her.

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Speaker 2: On that one news talk Seppy.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show you can trust hand the duper Cy

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Speaker 1: Allen on the mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover

1330
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: Villa designed to intrigue and use talks dead be.

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Speaker 2: So here We Audiences were first introduced to our next

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01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: guest when she was fourteen years old, Cassie Henderson. She

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: went on X Factor made it all the way to

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Speaker 2: the quarter final. Fast forward eleven years later, it's been

1335
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: a big year for Cassie. She's taken us some time

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: off from music, being back in a big way, though

1337
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: credits her ex boyfriend for it, which is very adele like.

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01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: It's brought in a couple of EPs this year. Her

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Speaker 2: latest one just out is called The Yellow Chapter. Cassie,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Hello, how you doing. I'm well, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming in. So you've quit your job, of you, I.

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 23: Have quit my job. I quit my job last year

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 23: and I've been doing music full time ever since.

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01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: Did you have to quit your job to do your

1345
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: marketing job, your well paid marketing job, to do music?

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 9: Oh?

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01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 23: I mean I have juggled both for a very very

1348
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 23: long time. Like while I was at university, I was

1349
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Speaker 23: doing music, and while I was working, I was doing music.

1350
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 23: And I found that the progress I made as soon

1351
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 23: as I quit my job was an extreme amount compared

1352
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 23: to while I was trying to juggle.

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Speaker 2: Because are you one of those people who you have

1354
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: to focus on something totally or you don't focus enough.

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Speaker 23: Well, I think I can do both, and I enjoy both,

1356
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 23: Like I enjoyed working in marketing, but I think I

1357
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 23: reached a point where I was like, I don't want

1358
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 23: the rest of my life to be a marketing manager

1359
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 23: or a marketing assistant. I want to be a musician.

1360
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Speaker 23: And when I kind of came to that conclusion, I

1361
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 23: was like, there's no point in me being here right now.

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 15: I need to chase the story.

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Speaker 2: What about the money point, Well, I mean the money.

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Speaker 23: Comes if you work hard enough for the other side,

1365
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 23: So yeah, so that it can.

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Speaker 2: Be quite lucrative. And also you seem to have like

1367
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Speaker 2: a real pressure on you time wise that you're putting

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Speaker 2: on yourself.

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Speaker 24: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Well, I think just the nature of especially being a

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01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 23: female in this industry, is that you're always going to

1372
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Speaker 23: have a bit of a ticking time bomb on you.

1373
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 23: But the industry is kind of changing a little bit

1374
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 23: around that, Like we're not just expectant of child stars constantly,

1375
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 23: like we're accepting like older women coming into this industry.

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01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: So do you think do you think that the limit

1377
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 2: was that we only want hot young babes when it's women,

1378
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: but when it's old dudes, we can handle a bit

1379
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: of a barry Man, a low or something.

1380
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Speaker 23: Yeah, I honestly do. I think we're a lot more

1381
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 23: accepting of like old older male artists coming in, but

1382
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 23: older women we're kind of like, wait, you can't still

1383
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 23: be talking about your boyfriends, Like that's strange.

1384
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm racking my brain now to think of old lady

1385
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: artists aren't really well.

1386
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 23: Adele is an incredible example of a woman who has

1387
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 23: just continued to like speak your truth in all of

1388
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 23: her music, and I think that's something that really inspires me.

1389
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 23: But like you have people artists like Pink and they're

1390
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 23: not old.

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 25: But not at all, And like, what are these women

1392
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 25: in their forties? Yeah, exactly us like Bruce Springsteen a

1393
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 25: lot who's doing the big tours still yeah, so Stewart, Yeah,

1394
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 25: headlined Glastonbury exactly, And they're all incredible artists.

1395
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Speaker 23: I think it's just we were just a lot more

1396
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 23: fond of like maybe even in Britney Spears's time, when

1397
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 23: like these young artists were coming up and dancing on

1398
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 23: the stage, and that was kind of almost felt like

1399
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 23: all we were kind of good for was that young

1400
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 23: period of our lives. But I feel like I just

1401
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 23: write about my life and the things that have happened

1402
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 23: to me, and so hopefully that continues to be relevant

1403
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 23: to my life.

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01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: I did wonder though, if that's because maybe women sort

1405
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: of get over it, Like we're much more rational than guys,

1406
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Guys like I want

1407
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: to be young forever, whereas women get to a point

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: where were like, actually, I've made enough money. I used

1409
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: to do the gardens.

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Speaker 24: Now it's some gardening. Yeah, I don't know.

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 23: I think I think I will constantly just never be

1412
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 23: able to get over anything in my entire life, which

1413
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 23: is kind of what I've seen from my past breakups.

1414
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 23: I could just continue to write about them, so maybe

1415
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 23: that'll maybe that'll keep me in the end for long.

1416
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: So I heard your song not realizing it was your

1417
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: song on the radio, and I thought it was Tata.

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01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: I love that.

1419
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 23: That's my favorite compliment.

1420
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: Did you mean for that to happen?

1421
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 23: Which which one was that? With the most recent one,

1422
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 23: seeking sim Nay, I mean for me, actually that song

1423
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 23: wasn't really I didn't really have much of a Taylors

1424
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 23: with reference point on that one. But she's been my

1425
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 23: idol and like she doesn't know it, but my mentor

1426
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 23: throughout my entire career. So her writing style is definitely

1427
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 23: heavily ingrained into how I write.

1428
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe subconsciously you were doing it. Did you

1429
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: mean to go hard on the eighty synth than that?

1430
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: Because totally I love an eighty synth and I was

1431
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: loving that it was in there so heavily.

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Speaker 23: It's so good, and I think I love that it's

1433
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 23: coming back around into pop music, like you're hearing them

1434
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 23: so much more these days. And I think for us

1435
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 23: we were We just really wanted to speak the truth

1436
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 23: of the song, which was this like happy, upbeat feeling

1437
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 23: of a New Year's Eve party while also like being

1438
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 23: sat next to a miserable, sad person who's just been

1439
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 23: stood up, which is kind of the vibe you get

1440
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 23: musically in the song as well, like those eighties since

1441
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 23: kind of give you that upbeat, but also and.

1442
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: What are you?

1443
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: Who are you and the song? Are you the miserable

1444
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: person or you're the upbeat person.

1445
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 23: I'm the miserable person.

1446
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh, you're the one he's moved down because of the

1447
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: break up. Is that what it was?

1448
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 19: Well?

1449
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: I think.

1450
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 23: I think at those parties, the miserable people are usually

1451
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 23: the most fun because they're just trying to pretend like

1452
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 23: they're not sad.

1453
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, So from one extreme to the other, I

1454
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: guess what did this guy do to you? You've written

1455
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: an entire album about it?

1456
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 23: Honestly, it's I don't write specifically about like one thing

1457
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 23: or one person. I get inspired by different things that

1458
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 23: have happened to me over my life, and this situation

1459
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 23: was inspired by a story where I was kind of

1460
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 23: stood up on New Year's Eve. Yeah, and I mean

1461
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 23: they might say I wasn't stood up in my head

1462
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 23: I was, but feeds into the delusion. But yeah, it's

1463
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 23: it's based off a real event that happened to me,

1464
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 23: and I thought that would make a really great song.

1465
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that. You you you you described

1466
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: writing songs as folding washing, which is what I mean.

1467
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: It sounds romantic to the rest of us who don't

1468
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: write songs, but actually for you, it's just a day job,

1469
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1470
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1471
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 23: Well, it's a day job. And it's also it is

1472
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 23: just like something that you have to do every day.

1473
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 23: I think like it has to be done every day

1474
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 23: otherwise you don't develop the skill. And when you boil

1475
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 23: it down to that, it's really it's not that romantic sometimes.

1476
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: Now, I was reading something that you'd given an interview about. Oh,

1477
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, but you said that

1478
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: you were going to go. You want to take this overseas.

1479
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: So what are you waiting for?

1480
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: Oh?

1481
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 23: Well, I definitely, I definitely am. I think at the moment,

1482
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 23: I want to finish my current project, which is the

1483
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 23: Chronicles of a Heartbroken Trilogy EPs put out my first

1484
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 23: tool already, I've got one more to go, and then

1485
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 23: I think I've got a really solid musical ground to

1486
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 23: start expanding overseas.

1487
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: Because do you have to take when you go overseas,

1488
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: like a portfolio of work and sell yourself with it.

1489
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 23: Yeah, like you have to take a portfolio. You have

1490
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 23: to be able to show that you can perform live,

1491
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 23: you can do it basically anything that anybody asks of

1492
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 23: you when you go over there. And That's what I've

1493
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 23: been doing while I've been here, is really building up

1494
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 23: my skill set and making sure that when I go,

1495
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 23: I am one hundred percent ready to do that.

1496
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've got to be able to head a stage. Yeah,

1497
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: not feel nervous, know what you're doing, know how to

1498
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: pose for your photographs.

1499
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 23: Right, It's a skill that I've been working on currently.

1500
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 23: I was terrible, terrible model.

1501
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: So what's it tell us? Because we all need it.

1502
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I.

1503
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 24: Really have one.

1504
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 23: I think you just have to find somebody who can

1505
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 23: make you comfortable.

1506
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: But do you drop your chin? Don't you?

1507
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1508
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 23: I hear you drop the chin and you look above

1509
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 23: the camera. Maybe, but that makes me look a little

1510
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 23: crazy sometimes. Honestly, I'm still working on it. But yeah, no,

1511
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 23: I've just been I've been really working hard to come

1512
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 23: over as a solid package that knows what they want

1513
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 23: and knows what they want to do. And that's it's

1514
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 23: a difficult thing to work out who you are as

1515
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 23: an artist.

1516
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, so we're going to take a break

1517
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: and when we come back, you're going to sing us

1518
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: a song, aren't you?

1519
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

1520
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely brilliant stuff. All right, hang on there, Cassie Henderson

1521
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: back and just to take a quarter.

1522
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: Pass Mike asking breakfast full show podcast on I heard

1523
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: Radio powered my news talks it me.

1524
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: All right, So we're back with Cassie Henderson. Cassie gonna

1525
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: sing us a song. What's the song?

1526
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 23: This song is called seconds to Midnight?

1527
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: And what's my song?

1528
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1529
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, off you go.

1530
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 24: Why do I feel like I'm the one with issues?

1531
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 24: Was that coming on too strong? God? It wrong? When

1532
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 24: I kissed you, I kill you? And baby thought you.

1533
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 22: Dancing in the dark isn't hard. It's mysterious. Your hand

1534
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 22: over my heart and your arms. It was serious. I

1535
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 22: wanted you, you said, do you want me to? But

1536
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 22: at eleven fifty nine and stood under the sky and

1537
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 22: so by.

1538
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 24: Your side while I was calm, Oh, this was.

1539
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 26: Meant to be the best night, you chose to stand

1540
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 26: me up. But that's fine, old mam. I can't get it.

1541
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 26: Why they run for dear life?

1542
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: Seconds to midnight?

1543
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 26: Just seconds to midnight?

1544
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 24: The way just a minute, she's a friend? Are you kidding?

1545
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 4: No?

1546
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 24: It's happening again, will it?

1547
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 7: Then?

1548
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 24: Now I'm spending like a dad, Sir. I always dance

1549
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 24: with you, So now I'm stumbling in the street. The

1550
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 24: city's gonna know.

1551
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 7: You couldn't be the screen.

1552
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 26: Now never let it go, And now you choose some

1553
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 26: girl you'll never know.

1554
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 24: But at eleven fifty nine stood under the sky.

1555
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 26: And saw by your side. Why was calm and dine? No,

1556
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 26: this wise meant to be your first night you chose

1557
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 26: to send me up. But that's fine.

1558
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: All man made can get it.

1559
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 26: For They run for dear life, sadds to midnight, tall

1560
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 26: dark and head me live by your work. Fo chees

1561
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 26: to me because I'll never learn all man made the

1562
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 26: mcast run for dear life, satdays to midnight, just satdays

1563
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 26: to mind.

1564
01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 24: When the sun rises, and drinks well off. Do you

1565
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 24: think about it? Do you carry old re lies? You

1566
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 24: in a break? Don to think of me? How you

1567
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 24: got it wrong? God? Is it wrong? You got it wrong?

1568
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 24: You'll think me when you hear this.

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 10: O.

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 26: This is meant to be the first time you chose

1571
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 26: to send me up.

1572
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 15: And that's fine.

1573
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 2: Baby, Mom's right.

1574
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 26: It's run for dinner life seconds to mid tall dark

1575
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:50,839
Speaker 26: and hiding me live fire work. They ch is to me, guys,

1576
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,480
Speaker 26: I'll never fast.

1577
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 25: Baby had coast you find the dealer.

1578
01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 26: Tip against to me.

1579
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 2: Line how good so good? And do you see what

1580
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean? I mean you don't need me to tell

1581
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: you this, but taite Ah, thank you, Vibes.

1582
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 26: Thank you.

1583
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 23: She is my inspiration icon mother.

1584
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: Cassie, thank you so much for coming in. Go well

1585
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: with everything you've got planned for yourself. Thank you, Cassie. Yeah,

1586
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: and if you want to get a hold of it,

1587
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: the EP is called The Yellow Chapter eight twenty two.

1588
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 1: Ever Duplessy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the

1589
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: Range Rover Villa news to Ted b.

1590
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: Uh eight twenty five. Some suggestions on because we were well,

1591
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: I was doing the brainstorm I was trying to do

1592
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: the brainstorming, wasn't I trying to figure out older women

1593
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: who've continued the musical careers. A couple of suggestions of Madonna,

1594
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: which is not bad because Madonna about five years from

1595
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: what I can tell, five years ago was the last

1596
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: album released twenty nineteen, should have been sixty one years old.

1597
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: That's not bad form Madonna, Susan Boyle, I'm not even

1598
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: We're not even going to go there. That's not really

1599
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 2: that's not real, is it? And also I'm getting pulled

1600
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: up for my suggestion that women are more rational than men, which, look,

1601
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I'm just gonna level with you.

1602
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: That's obviously BS. I mean, that's it's not because we're

1603
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: rational that we were diagnosed with hysteria for decades, is it.

1604
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: We're not. We're hysterical. That's what we are. Actually, Listen

1605
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 2: on that guy who's been named as the suspect.

1606
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 7: You say, you've just swung completely the other way.

1607
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: All I needed was somebody to just point out that

1608
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: I was wrong, and then I meant because.

1609
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 7: It wasn't a man who pointed out that you were

1610
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 7: probably and men are good at that.

1611
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: Given that I'm a woman, just change my opinion just

1612
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: like that. That's no problem at all, not in woman land.

1613
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: It's absolutely fine. That guy who's just been named as

1614
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: the suspect in the CEO shooting, the healthcare ceo shooting,

1615
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: the coppers reckoned. He might have been using what's called

1616
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,440
Speaker 2: a ghost gun, which is an untraceable firearm, maybe assembled

1617
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: from kits, may be made with a three D printer

1618
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: or something like that, capable of firing a nine millimeter round.

1619
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: May be part of the reason why it looked like

1620
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: as firearm was jamming when he was doing the shooting

1621
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: was because the thing was a three D printed type

1622
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 2: of gun. Anyway, the heaps of information coming out on

1623
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: that will keep you posted across that really really good

1624
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: news if you're based in Auckland, by the way, and

1625
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: even if you're on Wellington and you're thinking that you

1626
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: might like to see some decent rugby. The All Blacks

1627
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: are going to be playing South Africa at Eden Park

1628
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: next year. Now Eden Park is obviously the plate. I mean,

1629
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 2: they're also doing Wellington, which is going to be fantastic

1630
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: as well. But how I mean, can you think of

1631
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: anything better than All Blacks Spring Box Eden Park and

1632
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: then we win as well? How good's that going to be?

1633
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if the tickets are on

1634
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: sale right now, Just go and have a little look

1635
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: and I will see you there absolutely and take the

1636
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: news in an afternot we're heading off to rod Little news,

1637
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 2: tig ZB.

1638
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: Still big news, bold opinions, Heather due to Sea Allen

1639
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate your

1640
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: local experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

1641
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: That'd be Heather.

1642
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: Do you know that the last time The Box beat

1643
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: the All Blacks at Eden Park was nineteen thirty seven? Yes,

1644
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: That's why I'm feeling very confident about this particular. This

1645
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: is why I'm thinking this is going to be excellent.

1646
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: What's at in park and we're going to thrash the

1647
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: box and so what else could you possibly want? Hey,

1648
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm speaking of taking a thrashing tough all time for

1649
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: Spark at the moment, So thought some prayers if you're

1650
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: a Spark investor. It was announced yesterday it's going to

1651
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: be dropped from the Standard and Poor's list of the

1652
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 2: largest two hundred listed companies on the AX. It's already

1653
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: been dropped from the All Country World Index a couple

1654
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. It's run by Morgan Stanley Capitol International.

1655
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: These guys have had such a rough time. I mean,

1656
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: they downgraded the earnings guidance, they missed that, they lost

1657
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: at least one major contract, have to do some ass sales,

1658
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, cut staff, like, the whole thing is

1659
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: going badly. Share price is down forty four percent in

1660
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: the year to date and it hit its lowest price

1661
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: in almost ten years this year. And much like in

1662
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 2: New Zealand, which seems to be a story of a

1663
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: bunch of companies at the moment, it's probably a year

1664
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: they're going to be happy to put behind them. Mate

1665
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: twenty two away from.

1666
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 18: Nine International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

1667
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business.

1668
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: Rod Little is with us out of the UK. Hey Rod,

1669
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: how are you going?

1670
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 3: How are you doing very well?

1671
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: Thank you? So what's the UK's response to what's going

1672
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: on in Syria?

1673
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 5: Well, it's twofold. Firstly, most of the major media over

1674
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 5: here have been talking up the victory of the Syrian

1675
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 5: rebel courses much in them were the same way that

1676
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 5: they sort of heralded the release from prison of Nelson Mandeva.

1677
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 4: It's a.

1678
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 5: I think it's probably I mean that they've just been

1679
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 5: saying this is a new moderate. They're not alco either,

1680
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 5: you know, don't worry about it. They're going to be

1681
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 5: just fyed. We've had to get rid of a sad.

1682
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 5: I have my doubts about that, and I think if

1683
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 5: I come back to bite us at the moment, David Lammy,

1684
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 5: our Foreign secretary, God help us, is currently mulling over

1685
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 5: the prospect of removing HTS from the list of prescribed

1686
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 5: organizations under the idea that they might indeed be reformed,

1687
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 5: but I think that would be a very wise, unwise

1688
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 5: thing to do at the moment. The other thing, of course,

1689
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,480
Speaker 5: is the fact that we have many many Syrian refugees

1690
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 5: in this country who have come here because a persecution

1691
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 5: from bacharalah Sad. Now the Austrians have already announced mass

1692
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 5: deportations of Syrians. Assad's gone, You're going home, And indeed

1693
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 5: even our labor government has now said that all piplications

1694
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 5: for asilent from Syria are going to be put on

1695
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 5: hold and will not be processed. They are thinking of

1696
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 5: sending some back.

1697
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: So what is it going to take? I mean, I

1698
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: see Lemmy's got one position and kirstam as saying, well, well,

1699
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, hold the horses will have it. It's far

1700
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: too really to decide whether these guys need to be

1701
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: taken off the terrorist list or not. What's it going

1702
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 2: to take to actually take them off? What do they

1703
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 2: have to do to prove.

1704
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 5: Themselves well, not allow the country to descend it to

1705
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 5: chaos and not announced it kind of general g hard

1706
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 5: against infidels, none of which seems very very likely. It

1707
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 5: seems to me that we're in the same position with

1708
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: Syria that we were in twenty ten with Libya twenty eleven,

1709
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 5: rather that you know, well, we keep being told that

1710
01:18:53,080 --> 01:19:00,839
Speaker 5: these organizations have reformed and are no longer murderous and violent.

1711
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 5: And yet you know, we were told that about the Taliban,

1712
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 5: it was going to be Taliban to zero. They were

1713
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 5: going to be completely different. No, that didn't happen. So

1714
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 5: I think we I just hope that Skear Starma prevails

1715
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 5: over Lammie and that we're a bit we're a bit

1716
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 5: measured in our response to what happens in Syria.

1717
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's hoping. Hey, the old business indicators are not

1718
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: looking too good for a recession, are they.

1719
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 5: No, And you know, I think I've probably got this wrong.

1720
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 5: I actually saw back in July that a new labor

1721
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 5: government might just provide a bit of an impetus to

1722
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 5: the economy, given the years of stagnation under the Conservative Party.

1723
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 5: But it has been catastrophic, and Rachel Reeves's budget a

1724
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 5: month ago has rare two months ago now has really

1725
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 5: saw the seeds of what looks like becoming a recession.

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Speaker 5: We are on the edge of a recession. We were

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Speaker 5: a long way away from that under the Tories, no

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Speaker 5: matter how inept they were. But we're now on the

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Speaker 5: edge of a recession. More and more firms are pulling

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Speaker 5: out of London. The economic indicators are looking very very bad. Indeed,

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Speaker 5: yeah really.

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Speaker 2: Are hey, Rod, look after yourself. Thanks for talking us

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Speaker 2: through that. Really appreciate it. This Rod Little, our UK correspondent,

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Speaker 2: got a little bit of good news for you. If

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Speaker 2: you've got especially if you've got a sweet tooth, or

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Speaker 2: if you're pregnant, or if you just want to enjoy

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Speaker 2: your life. Apparently you can have a couple of sweet

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Speaker 2: treats a day and not only is it not going

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Speaker 2: to do you any harm, it actually looks like it

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Speaker 2: might be doing you some good. So if you go

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Speaker 2: in you have yourself a couple of pastries or chocolates

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Speaker 2: or sweets, and you do that a couple of times

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Speaker 2: a day, lowers your risk of heart attack and stroke.

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Speaker 2: Now this is out of a study out of Sweden.

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Speaker 2: They tracked like a quite a large number of Swedes,

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Speaker 2: about seventy thousand of them, and they checked them for

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Speaker 2: twenty two years, so it's a reasonable period of time

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Speaker 2: as rather, it's not just like oh mate, woke up

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Speaker 2: down to otargo and went let's do this for three

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Speaker 2: months like these guys properly leaned into this study and

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Speaker 2: they asked these seventy thousand swedes over twenty two years

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Speaker 2: to track what they were eating and drinking. And they

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Speaker 2: found that eating things like pastries and chocolates and sweeds

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Speaker 2: twice a day was linked to a twenty five percent

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Speaker 2: lower risk of a stroke and a twenty two percent

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Speaker 2: lower risk of a heart attack. And then if you

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Speaker 2: switch to the honeys and the jams and the marmalades,

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Speaker 2: and you're putting that on your toast, and you're putting

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Speaker 2: it on your porridg you' putting it wherever you want,

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Speaker 2: basically linked to an eleven percent reduction in heart failure. Now,

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Speaker 2: the differences do not confuse this with sugary drinks, because

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Speaker 2: that has a completely different impact on you. Apparently, if

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Speaker 2: you're drinking the pepsi and the colas and the fruit

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Speaker 2: juices and the sodas and even the diet stuff which

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Speaker 2: people think is okay, it's really not okay. All of

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Speaker 2: that stuff linked to an increased risk of stroke, heart

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Speaker 2: failure and the heart problems and all that stuff. Now,

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Speaker 2: the thing about this is the scientists don't know why,

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Speaker 2: because that's not what they were looking at. They were

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Speaker 2: just looking at what happens. So it's it's correlation rather

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Speaker 2: than cause. They don't know why this leads to you

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Speaker 2: having potential. Even if it does lead to it just

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Speaker 2: can be a complete coincidence that all these people have

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Speaker 2: lower risks of strokes and heart attacks.

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Speaker 7: I sometimes I think with the sort of thing that

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Speaker 7: is the kind of person who allows themselves to have

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Speaker 7: a few sweet treats, are they just sort of a

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Speaker 7: little bit more easy going and a little bit stressed

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Speaker 7: and a little bit less wound up about things?

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Speaker 2: This is what I was going to get to. You

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Speaker 2: haven't got anxiety. You're not stressing yourself out by being like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I have to do my intimittent fasting and only drink

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Speaker 2: my lemon TEA Am I describing somebody?

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Speaker 7: I feel like there's somebody, but I just maybe I

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Speaker 7: can't think who that would be. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 7: nobody around here. Yeah at the moment, not not right now.

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Speaker 2: If you're the kind of person who's like ah sized

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Speaker 2: size ten sized towlve who cares I have a good life,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm just gonna enjoy myself, have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a cake and you're chilled out.

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Speaker 7: It's probably and by that we don't mean cold plunging.

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Speaker 2: None of that. Now, you don't want to be like,

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Speaker 2: you know, religiously in your sauna at three pm, out

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Speaker 2: into the cold show for breakfast, standing on one foot

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Speaker 2: while brushing your teeth, f like all of that stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. No, too much stress. That's what's your problem.

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Speaker 2: That's your problem right there.

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Speaker 1: Called it to the mic asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b Hey.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm twelve away from nine. I don't know. You

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Speaker 2: probably don't know that. None of the relaxation about the

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Speaker 2: cakes is going to save my life, given how anxious

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Speaker 2: and angry I get about parking. So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: tell you about the parking story of the day. This

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Speaker 2: is a baller. Okay, there's a chim chap called Tim

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Speaker 2: Armstrong lives in Wellington. I hate parking wardens. I really

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Speaker 2: hate parking businesses, parking businesses more than parking wardens. Tim

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Speaker 2: Armstrong parked and Patoni and Wellington on October seventeenth in

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Speaker 2: a two hour zone. So he was like, I've got

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Speaker 2: two hours and he was in and out within fifty

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Speaker 2: one minutes. He parked at eleven oh eight and he

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Speaker 2: was out by eleven fifty nine. But he got ticketed

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Speaker 2: because a park warden came by. Remember he's in at

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Speaker 2: eleven oh eight, right, He's been there for nineteen minutes

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Speaker 2: and a parking guy comes by, chalks his tire, walks away, tickets.

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Speaker 2: Another car comes back five minutes later and tickets the guy.

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Speaker 2: So there's no two hour problem here. This is a

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Speaker 2: five minute But what's up with that parking guy? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: So Tim is like, oh no, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: I'll just write to the council. Hot city. Yep, Hot

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Speaker 2: City council. I'm as sort it starts emailing them. Nut

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Speaker 2: not gonna have a bar of it. Told by the council,

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Speaker 2: evidence is clear he's parked for more than two hours.

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Speaker 2: He gets to the point where he actually gets a

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Speaker 2: time stamped image of his ute and another suburban Wellington

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Speaker 2: altogether in Newlands. Sends it through, says, look, I'm a

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Speaker 2: new Lends you think I'm in Potoni. I'm a new Lands.

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Speaker 2: Look here's a time stamp.

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Speaker 4: Think.

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Speaker 2: They go, oh that's dubious, has it though? Anyway? So

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Speaker 2: this carries on for six days, gets escalated to the

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Speaker 2: boss above. They go, yeah, okay, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: pay the twenty bucks, but you still stay there for

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Speaker 2: two hours. He's like, no, I didn't. So his boss

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Speaker 2: threatens with legal action and that is when they say

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Speaker 2: they sorry on November seventh. Anyway, that's infuriating. Brought about

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Speaker 2: this the warden. They then get our whole sample of

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Speaker 2: the warden's tickets. Eight percent of them were disputed. That

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Speaker 2: got That's quite low, is it though? That's one and twelve.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a lot. You see why I

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Speaker 2: hate the main ten Away from known for.

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Speaker 27: family operated real estate network with more than one hundred officers,

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Speaker 27: two thousand personnel and expertise across all corners of the

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Speaker 27: boots on the farm, investing in local communities nationwide because

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real Estate News talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be, Heather, the people who can afford a few

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: treats today, Maybe they're the ones who are more likely

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Speaker 2: to be able to afford healthy food and healthcare and

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Speaker 2: less likely to experience chronic stress. This is a very

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Speaker 2: good point from clear actually, so maybe if you are

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Speaker 2: able to eat two treats today's a lot to be

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Speaker 2: honest about it. You're going to be consistent about that.

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Speaker 2: It's like fourteen across the week. It adds up. So

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Speaker 2: you've got all that money for all those treats, then

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Speaker 2: you've got all the money for all the other stuff

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Speaker 2: as well. Six Away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now qu chemist ware House, the home of big

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's that time of year where we release

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Speaker 2: all of the lists. Say, we had the Spotify rat

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Speaker 2: list which came out last week, and we also had

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Speaker 2: the Billboard and the Rolling Stones lists of twenty twenty four,

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01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: and now today got Google's list. So this is what

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01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: ki we searched for in twenty twenty four on the

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Speaker 2: Google we'll do the concerts. First number one concert we

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Speaker 2: looked up the most scoure scar obviously cold Play, because

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Speaker 2: that was an amazing show. Not surprise at all. For sports,

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks specifically did not feature at all. The

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Speaker 2: only rugby event was the Rugby Championship, which was the

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Speaker 2: fifth most search. Number one was actually the Euros, followed

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Speaker 2: by the Olympics. The number one person we searched for

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Speaker 2: was Liam Payne of One Direction for obvious reasons. Kate

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Speaker 2: Middleton was number two, obviously worried about the cancer battle.

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Speaker 2: Lo Listen sixth most searched person by Kiwis. The most

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Speaker 2: searched shows show was Saltburn. Now that's not a show,

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Speaker 2: but as we as so you know what I'm talking

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Speaker 2: like with that moment and that moment and that moment

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 7: Hey one completely passed me by. I'm going to have

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Speaker 7: to google that now.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, let me tell you. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: book is of course because.

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Speaker 7: Of all that those now I'm going to have to

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Speaker 7: disable my family filter.

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Speaker 2: You don't want the kids there, mate, don't have the

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Speaker 2: kids with you. Baby reindeer also in there. Most searched

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Speaker 2: recipes real international flair here. Number one most search recipe

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Speaker 2: was bitter malon, which is a popular fruit used in

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Speaker 2: Chinese stir fry. Second thing was the Olympic Village chocolate muffins,

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Speaker 2: which are apparently a massive hit, and Za cookies on

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Speaker 2: the list. They're always always along with Ren Dang and

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Speaker 2: Tang Hulu. I don't know what do you know what

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Speaker 2: that is? I'm going to google that in a minute,

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Speaker 2: say if we then push it up for next year,

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Speaker 2: Raygun top meme search and now the big list, the

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Speaker 2: top ten overall things that we search ten flat white

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Speaker 2: for those of you who don't know what it is

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Speaker 2: number nine all Blacks Versus England number eight, Australian Open

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Speaker 2: number seven, T MoU number six, Cricket T twenty World

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Speaker 2: Cup number five, Liam Payne number four, Olympics number three,

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Speaker 2: Connections which is in New York time, TMES game number

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Speaker 2: two the Euros and number one the US election. Who's

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Speaker 2: let's be honest about it. None of us can get

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Speaker 2: enough of the Orange man. Thank god he doesn't run

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Speaker 2: our show.

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Speaker 7: Holy by the way, is kind of like candied fruit.

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Speaker 2: Candied fruit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think what we've learned out of that.

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Speaker 7: We've got the Chinese stir fry and the Chinese candied fruit.

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Speaker 7: We've been hacked and T.

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Speaker 2: Move T moves in there. Who is the trifector? See

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Speaker 2: you go, don't google any of those. Yeah, Trump will

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Speaker 2: sort of. We need a new list for next year

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Speaker 2: if possible. Hey, have yourself a lovely day and we

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Speaker 2: will see you again tomorrow. You still said by.

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