1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: So we have movement, a lot of movement overnight on 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: this peace steel over Gaza, and the President announcing that 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: in the next well next week, the first few days 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: of next week, we should have hostages being released. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: We are getting the hostages back on on Tuesday, Monday 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: or Tuesday, and that'll be a day of joy. I'm 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: gonna try and make a trip over We're going to 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: try and get over there. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: It's all happening in phases. David Smith is Washington Bureau 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: chief for The Guardian with us this morning. David, So, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: this is quite a momentous moment, but still a lot 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: of water to go under the bridge. 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. I think we have learned from past 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: experience to always treat these announcements with caution and not 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: every breakthrough is what it appears. But I think it 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: would be fair to say this is by far the 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: closest we've come to and to this war. And it's 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: not just Donald Trump saying that that, Israel and Hamas 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: indicating that's the case, and certainly some signs of tremendous 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: relief on the ground that this could at least be 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: the beginning of the end. And I think, you know, 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: I guess everyone will feel more certain about that if indeed, 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: as Trump says, hostages are returned on Monday or Tuesday, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: and if Israel agrees to you know, stop its well, 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: movie its sources back to the to the agreed line, 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: and we actually see a secession as hostilities. 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: And then you can start getting humanitarian aiden to the 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: Palestinians all that sort of stuff. What happens after that, like, 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: what is phase two? Do we know? 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: Well? I think it's going to get more complicated, of course, 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: after those headline breakthroughs, and there are still some puddles 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: to clear here, such as the disarmament of Hamas are 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: set out in that peace plan, and it's not especially 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: clear how that will be conducted and whether all members 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: of Her Mass will agree. Even going further forward, maybe 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: more like sort of phase three or four, obviously one 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: has to look to the future governance of Gaza and Tybe. 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: This plan suggests that neither her Mass nor the Palestinian 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: authority should play any part in that. And I think 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: something to watch is what is Donald Trump's commitment to 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: all of that. The peace plans suggest there'll be some 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: kind of independent international oversight body shared by Trump that 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: will will oversee you s effectively Phase two, three and 44 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: four and so on. But you know, from what we 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: know about Trump, does he have the staying power, the 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: the the attention span. Frankly, you know, after he's had 47 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: an opportunity he declared victory and get a great headline. 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: We know psychologically he's a kind of person who does 49 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: tend to then get distracted and move on to a 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: thousand other issues. But that said, you know there's a 51 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: team of Steve Wikoff, special envoy, Jared Kushner, his son 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: in law, others who maybe are determined to follow through 53 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: on this, and of course it's all been backed up 54 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: by international partners such as you know, Turkey and Katar 55 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: and so on. 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: David appreciate that analysis. 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