1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Now Christmas came early for Teaway as in the aluminium 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: smelter yesterday. They get to do business. They get to 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: do business in a country where you would have thought 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: of doing business would be encouraged. Anyway. They've been prevented 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: from doing all the business they can because they have 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: a deal, of course with their power company, Meridian, whereby 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: they have to contain themselves if things are a bit 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: tight in the old power department. It is indeed a 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: weird old world where we revel in ideas like AI 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: and crypto and data centers, and yet we don't have 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: the slightest idea where the power to make all this 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: is coming from Big tech is under pressure globally as well. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: It's claim they've got data centers running and using things 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: like water in areas of the planet where water is scarce. 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: New Zealand wants to be a data center hub and 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: yet can't allow an aluminium plant to run to its 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: capacity because it didn't rain enough. Good news is it 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: has rained a bit lately, so the southern lakes look solid, 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: which means they think we might not be as pinched 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: as we have been in other winters. The idea that 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: you aspire to run a power grid that is reliant 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: on things you have no control over is a very 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: modern version. I would have thought of insanity. We need 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: it to rain, we need it to blow, we need 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: the sun to shine. We have no control over any 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: of those things. So we convince ourselves we aren't idiots 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: by thinking we will build options. So if the sun 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: isn't out, the wind will blow, or if it doesn't blow, 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: at least it will rain. But when it doesn't do 30 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: any of those things, which it hasn't, we need t 31 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: y and your average punter to take it easy on 32 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the cold mornings. And that is with right here, right now. 33 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Hardly any AI or crypto or data centers imagine how 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: stuck we would be if we actually had got any 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: of those things up and running. Gas would help, of course, 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: but labour stopped all that. In our reopening of the 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: market is only just beginning. We really do look very 38 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven. Meantime, the coal comes in from Indonesia, 39 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: defeating the entire purpose of the climb and exercise of 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: renewables cart before horse anyone. They say it will all 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: work out. Eventually, we will have so much renewable capacity, 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: we'll have all the bases covered. Do you believe that? 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Do you believe a country that makes its biggest power 44 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: user limits its capacity every time intercomes really is a 45 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: country that deals successfully in big picture thinking. For more 46 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to News Talks 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: at B from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 48 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio