1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names, 3 00:00:16,787 --> 00:00:22,667 Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations 4 00:00:22,947 --> 00:00:26,387 Speaker 1: heads all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your 5 00:00:26,507 --> 00:00:28,707 Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talks EDB. 6 00:00:30,387 --> 00:00:33,227 Speaker 2: Hello there you, good afternoon, and welcome into Weekend Sport 7 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:36,067 Speaker 2: on News Talks. He'd be the Sunday edition for August tenth, 8 00:00:36,587 --> 00:00:39,347 Speaker 2: Happy birthday to Mighty Williams. Today he'll be in Argentina, 9 00:00:39,387 --> 00:00:41,307 Speaker 2: obviously with the all Black. So I'm Jason Pine. We're 10 00:00:41,347 --> 00:00:45,467 Speaker 2: here talking sport until three o'clock this afternoon. Wanted to 11 00:00:45,507 --> 00:00:48,827 Speaker 2: start though with an acknowledgment of the news that you 12 00:00:48,987 --> 00:00:52,507 Speaker 2: heard in our news at midday that two times Sailor 13 00:00:52,547 --> 00:00:57,307 Speaker 2: of the Year, former America's Cup tactician and extremely accomplished 14 00:00:57,427 --> 00:01:02,027 Speaker 2: TV sailing analyst Peter Lester passed away on Friday night 15 00:01:02,067 --> 00:01:06,347 Speaker 2: after suffering a heart attack a week earlier. Hugely successed 16 00:01:06,507 --> 00:01:11,307 Speaker 2: for career on the water, global triumphs and various boat classes, 17 00:01:11,907 --> 00:01:15,907 Speaker 2: three America's Cup campaigns, and then Peter Leicester became a 18 00:01:16,107 --> 00:01:20,547 Speaker 2: very popular expert voice on the sport of sailing, especially 19 00:01:20,547 --> 00:01:23,107 Speaker 2: with the America's Cup. Going to pay tribute after two 20 00:01:23,147 --> 00:01:26,987 Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon with PJ Montgomery. Our thoughts and best 21 00:01:26,987 --> 00:01:30,187 Speaker 2: wishes with the friends and family of Peter Lester, one 22 00:01:30,227 --> 00:01:33,387 Speaker 2: of the greats of the sport of sailing on and 23 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:37,467 Speaker 2: off the water. The Warriors have dropped out of the 24 00:01:37,587 --> 00:01:41,107 Speaker 2: NRL's top four for the first time since mid April, 25 00:01:41,467 --> 00:01:41,947 Speaker 2: but it's. 26 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:46,387 Speaker 3: A convincing one to Canterbury feeding the Warriors by thirty 27 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:47,587 Speaker 3: two points to. 28 00:01:47,467 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 2: Forty a very deflating night and a rain soaked and 29 00:01:51,547 --> 00:01:54,107 Speaker 2: sopping wet Sydney last night going down to the Bulldogs. 30 00:01:54,107 --> 00:01:57,427 Speaker 2: What I unpacked this with you and maybe not so 31 00:01:57,507 --> 00:01:59,747 Speaker 2: much last night, although we can dissect that. But the 32 00:01:59,787 --> 00:02:03,907 Speaker 2: next four games, the last four games of the regular season. 33 00:02:03,947 --> 00:02:07,307 Speaker 2: Are the Warriors still a top four propers d and 34 00:02:07,387 --> 00:02:11,107 Speaker 2: perhaps as importantly now, are they still a top eight side? 35 00:02:11,107 --> 00:02:14,307 Speaker 2: It seems a remarkable question to be asking given the 36 00:02:14,347 --> 00:02:17,627 Speaker 2: season I've had, But that is three straight defeats now 37 00:02:18,267 --> 00:02:20,987 Speaker 2: five losses in the last seven, and the table doesn't lie. 38 00:02:21,107 --> 00:02:25,027 Speaker 2: The Roosters, who are ninth, are just four points back 39 00:02:25,027 --> 00:02:28,387 Speaker 2: now four games to go, so eight points still up 40 00:02:28,387 --> 00:02:32,587 Speaker 2: for grabs. It would be such an enormous shame, wouldn't 41 00:02:32,587 --> 00:02:35,267 Speaker 2: it if the Warriors get dragged into a battle to 42 00:02:35,347 --> 00:02:37,787 Speaker 2: even make the top eight. Jake Juke out of Fox 43 00:02:37,827 --> 00:02:40,787 Speaker 2: Sports in a moment. Some postgame thoughts from Andrew Webster 44 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:43,467 Speaker 2: as well. It is your thoughts though and your analysis. 45 00:02:43,787 --> 00:02:46,707 Speaker 2: I'm keenest on lines open immediately and all hours are 46 00:02:46,907 --> 00:02:49,427 Speaker 2: all our, rather not all ours might be all ours, 47 00:02:49,507 --> 00:02:52,827 Speaker 2: but all this hour anyway on the Warriors. Other matters 48 00:02:52,827 --> 00:02:55,547 Speaker 2: around today. New Zealand rugby CEO Mark Robinson after one 49 00:02:56,267 --> 00:02:59,387 Speaker 2: chatting a range of issues from eligibility, the return of 50 00:02:59,467 --> 00:03:02,787 Speaker 2: Richie Moringer and the impending threat of rugby. Three to 51 00:03:02,987 --> 00:03:05,547 Speaker 2: sixty Black Ferns lose for Georgia Miller's on the show, 52 00:03:05,627 --> 00:03:07,987 Speaker 2: head of the teams to departure for the Rugby World Cup. 53 00:03:08,347 --> 00:03:11,227 Speaker 2: Flynn Cameron out of the tour Blacks after their third 54 00:03:11,227 --> 00:03:14,347 Speaker 2: straight win at basketball's Asian Cup this morning and a 55 00:03:14,547 --> 00:03:18,627 Speaker 2: very convincing when it was too, a forty point winning 56 00:03:18,667 --> 00:03:22,467 Speaker 2: margin of a Chinese Taipei. So what did they like 57 00:03:22,547 --> 00:03:24,427 Speaker 2: most about that? Going to break down the black Caps 58 00:03:24,507 --> 00:03:27,507 Speaker 2: demolition of Zimbabwe as well and ask what was really 59 00:03:27,547 --> 00:03:31,067 Speaker 2: achieved there going over there and playing what really amounted 60 00:03:31,107 --> 00:03:35,147 Speaker 2: to nothing more than a club site up against the 61 00:03:35,187 --> 00:03:37,467 Speaker 2: black Caps James mcconi in his regular slot as well, 62 00:03:37,507 --> 00:03:39,747 Speaker 2: but a live sport around this afternoon two. Round one 63 00:03:39,747 --> 00:03:43,907 Speaker 2: of the Farrah Palmer Cup continues, Counties Mancow making absolutely 64 00:03:43,947 --> 00:03:47,347 Speaker 2: no race of it against Bay of Plenty in Pokacoe 65 00:03:47,347 --> 00:03:49,867 Speaker 2: at the moment thirty five minutes gone. The home side 66 00:03:49,947 --> 00:03:55,147 Speaker 2: Counties thirty eight nil ahead. Canterbury up against Munawatu in 67 00:03:55,227 --> 00:03:58,147 Speaker 2: christ Church from five past one, and the Buddings MPC 68 00:03:58,307 --> 00:04:01,427 Speaker 2: continues as well. Round two action Counties Mancow hosting Bay 69 00:04:01,427 --> 00:04:04,787 Speaker 2: of Plenty. That's the second game at Pocacuey from around 70 00:04:04,787 --> 00:04:08,427 Speaker 2: five past two. The show is yours to participate in. 71 00:04:08,587 --> 00:04:10,627 Speaker 2: If that's what you choose. You can get through on 72 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:13,187 Speaker 2: the phone oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You 73 00:04:13,187 --> 00:04:15,547 Speaker 2: can text your thoughts through to nine two ninety two, 74 00:04:15,787 --> 00:04:18,907 Speaker 2: or go into greater detail via email if you like. 75 00:04:19,187 --> 00:04:22,347 Speaker 2: Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot nz. It's eleven 76 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:23,107 Speaker 2: past midday. 77 00:04:23,667 --> 00:04:27,307 Speaker 1: Don't get caught offside eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend 78 00:04:27,387 --> 00:04:31,667 Speaker 1: Sports with Jason Paine and GJ Gardnerhomes, New Zealand's most 79 00:04:31,667 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 1: trusted home builder news Dogs NB. 80 00:04:34,227 --> 00:04:37,267 Speaker 2: The Warriors will end Round twenty three of the NRL 81 00:04:37,467 --> 00:04:41,027 Speaker 2: outside the top four after a thirty two to fourteen 82 00:04:41,147 --> 00:04:44,267 Speaker 2: defeat at the hands of the Bulldogs in Sydney last night. 83 00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:50,107 Speaker 4: Mary to king On for Hayward's outfronic Alvins that ball 84 00:04:50,227 --> 00:04:53,267 Speaker 4: of caress has done it again. Pass it to. 85 00:04:56,107 --> 00:04:59,387 Speaker 1: Caress his hands. 86 00:05:01,147 --> 00:05:02,227 Speaker 2: Then you can take out one. 87 00:05:02,187 --> 00:05:04,347 Speaker 5: Trendis he said. He's the hands of. 88 00:05:04,267 --> 00:05:08,987 Speaker 2: A surgeon, the hands of surgeon. Indeed a convincing when 89 00:05:09,227 --> 00:05:13,427 Speaker 2: by the Bulldogs last night in very difficult conditions. Jake 90 00:05:13,907 --> 00:05:17,667 Speaker 2: Duke was on sideline commentary Your bull Bugger for Fox 91 00:05:17,787 --> 00:05:19,347 Speaker 2: last night. Have you dried out yet? 92 00:05:19,387 --> 00:05:19,787 Speaker 5: Mate? 93 00:05:20,467 --> 00:05:24,587 Speaker 6: I had to paddle home in my boat, Jase. It 94 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:27,107 Speaker 6: was a tough one on the sideline last night, and 95 00:05:27,147 --> 00:05:30,067 Speaker 6: I got drenched the night before in Newcastle as well, 96 00:05:30,107 --> 00:05:32,307 Speaker 6: so I'm not having a good run. But in the 97 00:05:32,347 --> 00:05:35,667 Speaker 6: studio today for Fox League, so thankfully I will stay dry. 98 00:05:35,867 --> 00:05:37,027 Speaker 2: Good stuff last night? 99 00:05:37,067 --> 00:05:37,267 Speaker 5: Mate? 100 00:05:37,307 --> 00:05:39,747 Speaker 2: Did the score line reflect the game? 101 00:05:41,387 --> 00:05:44,707 Speaker 5: It's an interesting one, look it was. 102 00:05:45,507 --> 00:05:48,267 Speaker 6: It can't even recall because I was just so busy 103 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:51,707 Speaker 6: trying to stay dry in that monsoon or conditions. But look, 104 00:05:51,747 --> 00:05:54,747 Speaker 6: you just have to think that the loss of Tomato 105 00:05:54,827 --> 00:05:58,467 Speaker 6: Martin early in that game just really threw the Warriors. 106 00:05:58,747 --> 00:06:01,267 Speaker 6: Obviously he copped a category one ha. 107 00:06:01,387 --> 00:06:03,187 Speaker 5: So you lose your. 108 00:06:03,027 --> 00:06:06,667 Speaker 6: Half back who's just come in to replace Tannaboid already 109 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:07,627 Speaker 6: lost Luke Metcalfe. 110 00:06:07,667 --> 00:06:09,827 Speaker 5: You know, it's just a. 111 00:06:09,747 --> 00:06:12,467 Speaker 6: Lot to overcome for the Warriors in terms of cohesion 112 00:06:12,467 --> 00:06:14,227 Speaker 6: in attack and Chanelle. 113 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:16,867 Speaker 5: Harris Tavita was out last week back last night. 114 00:06:16,707 --> 00:06:19,147 Speaker 6: And I just think that you can see in their 115 00:06:19,147 --> 00:06:21,947 Speaker 6: attack last night it was just a bit shot after that, 116 00:06:22,107 --> 00:06:25,747 Speaker 6: and in those conditions, the Bulldogs kind of warmed down 117 00:06:25,827 --> 00:06:29,627 Speaker 6: and completed really well, just controlled field position and then 118 00:06:30,227 --> 00:06:32,907 Speaker 6: they're a good side and so they just piled on 119 00:06:32,947 --> 00:06:35,867 Speaker 6: the points. It's probably, you know, probably not an accurate 120 00:06:35,867 --> 00:06:37,947 Speaker 6: reflection of where the two teams are probably at. 121 00:06:38,027 --> 00:06:39,307 Speaker 5: But the Warriors at. 122 00:06:39,147 --> 00:06:41,827 Speaker 6: The moment just kind of in a bit of in 123 00:06:41,867 --> 00:06:44,387 Speaker 6: a bit of a slide, as I said, with all 124 00:06:44,387 --> 00:06:47,387 Speaker 6: those injuries and back to back losses at home and 125 00:06:47,427 --> 00:06:50,987 Speaker 6: now outside the top four, as you said, So look 126 00:06:50,987 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 6: it's it's tough, but there's still what four games to go, 127 00:06:55,387 --> 00:06:57,347 Speaker 6: so you know, you can you can write the ship 128 00:06:57,347 --> 00:06:58,947 Speaker 6: and kind of get things going, but they just got 129 00:06:58,947 --> 00:07:00,107 Speaker 6: to keep some players on the field. 130 00:07:00,227 --> 00:07:02,027 Speaker 2: Well that's said, doesn't it, Jake. You know, injuries have 131 00:07:02,107 --> 00:07:04,907 Speaker 2: been an absolute killer. The list was long anyway before 132 00:07:05,387 --> 00:07:08,627 Speaker 2: to Mighty Martin went down last night Like you don't 133 00:07:08,627 --> 00:07:10,787 Speaker 2: want to make excuses, right because rugby league is a 134 00:07:10,787 --> 00:07:14,027 Speaker 2: game where injuries are effective life. But is it in 135 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:17,107 Speaker 2: some ways an explanation at least for what's going on 136 00:07:17,147 --> 00:07:18,187 Speaker 2: at the Warriors right now? 137 00:07:19,267 --> 00:07:23,107 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, Like you don't lose quality players like 138 00:07:23,147 --> 00:07:27,347 Speaker 6: as I said, look at Luke Metcalfe, a Mitch Barnett obviously. 139 00:07:27,107 --> 00:07:27,707 Speaker 5: James Fisher. 140 00:07:27,747 --> 00:07:31,507 Speaker 6: Harris has missed some time as well, Like, you don't 141 00:07:31,547 --> 00:07:34,747 Speaker 6: lose quality players like that, and you know, things just 142 00:07:35,227 --> 00:07:37,547 Speaker 6: work for you. We've seen some teams have some really 143 00:07:37,587 --> 00:07:40,427 Speaker 6: bad injury tolls across the season, but I think the Warriors, 144 00:07:40,747 --> 00:07:42,187 Speaker 6: of all the teams that were kind of in that 145 00:07:42,347 --> 00:07:46,507 Speaker 6: race for the premiership, they've probably been hit hardest, losing 146 00:07:46,907 --> 00:07:51,627 Speaker 6: you know, key spine players and rep forwards and as 147 00:07:51,627 --> 00:07:54,907 Speaker 6: I said, even backup halves. Now, so yeah, they probably 148 00:07:54,947 --> 00:07:55,747 Speaker 6: had the toughest run. 149 00:07:55,827 --> 00:07:57,387 Speaker 5: The Warriors. You've got to feel for them. 150 00:07:57,387 --> 00:08:00,987 Speaker 6: Because it was shaping is a really promising season and 151 00:08:01,267 --> 00:08:03,227 Speaker 6: a kind of real surprise season when you know, not 152 00:08:03,227 --> 00:08:04,667 Speaker 6: many people gave them a chance at the start of 153 00:08:04,707 --> 00:08:07,627 Speaker 6: the year when they had guys like Shaw Johnson retire 154 00:08:07,667 --> 00:08:10,307 Speaker 6: and then Toho Harris retire on the on the beginning 155 00:08:10,307 --> 00:08:11,867 Speaker 6: of it, right before the beginning of the season. So 156 00:08:12,787 --> 00:08:15,867 Speaker 6: they've done fantastically well, and as I said, it's not 157 00:08:15,907 --> 00:08:18,387 Speaker 6: over yet. You've got to regroup and find your kind 158 00:08:18,387 --> 00:08:21,427 Speaker 6: of rhythm and how it looks with those new guys 159 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:24,707 Speaker 6: in those new positions obviously won't help. Now the Tomato 160 00:08:24,827 --> 00:08:27,187 Speaker 6: mut and he'll be a Category one, so he'll be 161 00:08:27,307 --> 00:08:31,267 Speaker 6: ruled out for their class against the Dragons on Friday, 162 00:08:31,307 --> 00:08:35,267 Speaker 6: I think it is. So yeah, you've got to get 163 00:08:35,267 --> 00:08:39,747 Speaker 6: a regroup and maybe recall Tannaboyd, Chanelle Harris Devita there 164 00:08:39,867 --> 00:08:43,707 Speaker 6: and maybe just get some direction right now. 165 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:46,467 Speaker 2: The conditions were terrible, but the Bulldogs were good. Went 166 00:08:46,587 --> 00:08:48,467 Speaker 2: they were What did you make of their performance? 167 00:08:48,947 --> 00:08:50,227 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bulldogs were really good. 168 00:08:50,347 --> 00:08:52,827 Speaker 6: I think they've obviously had a bit of a rocket 169 00:08:52,867 --> 00:08:55,547 Speaker 6: up them since that disappointing loss to the Tigers, and 170 00:08:55,947 --> 00:08:57,707 Speaker 6: they said postgame that there's been a lot of talk 171 00:08:57,707 --> 00:08:59,427 Speaker 6: about people saying, oh, the Dogs can't play in a 172 00:08:59,467 --> 00:09:03,787 Speaker 6: wet because they've had a few probably shock upsets losses 173 00:09:03,907 --> 00:09:06,067 Speaker 6: this season in the wet. They got plumped by Brisbane 174 00:09:06,067 --> 00:09:07,747 Speaker 6: earlier in the year, and the Dolphins got him in 175 00:09:07,787 --> 00:09:11,107 Speaker 6: the wet, and then last week the Tigers got him 176 00:09:11,107 --> 00:09:12,947 Speaker 6: in the wet. So I think it was a real 177 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:15,067 Speaker 6: concerted effort from them to kind of come out and 178 00:09:15,107 --> 00:09:17,387 Speaker 6: play really strong wet weather football. 179 00:09:17,747 --> 00:09:18,667 Speaker 5: You could see that they. 180 00:09:18,547 --> 00:09:23,147 Speaker 6: Can kind of control field position really well, completed really high. 181 00:09:23,267 --> 00:09:26,347 Speaker 6: Matt Burtons kicking game was unbelievable. That forty twenty kicked 182 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:29,667 Speaker 6: off and offload from the twenty and it basically went 183 00:09:29,667 --> 00:09:32,027 Speaker 6: out on their ten like it was just one of 184 00:09:32,067 --> 00:09:35,587 Speaker 6: the probably the best forty twenties I've ever seen snap decisions. 185 00:09:36,027 --> 00:09:38,027 Speaker 6: So they just, yeah, they just controlled everything from the 186 00:09:38,067 --> 00:09:40,827 Speaker 6: get go. But as I said, you know, with the Warriors, 187 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:44,387 Speaker 6: I don't think they recovered from the fact that they 188 00:09:44,427 --> 00:09:46,027 Speaker 6: lost to morrow Mount and as we said, they're not. 189 00:09:46,067 --> 00:09:48,987 Speaker 6: They haven't been in good form and that doesn't help 190 00:09:48,987 --> 00:09:49,547 Speaker 6: when that happened. 191 00:09:49,547 --> 00:09:50,107 Speaker 5: Straight away. 192 00:09:50,747 --> 00:09:53,707 Speaker 2: We've been looking over the last month or so at 193 00:09:53,707 --> 00:09:56,227 Speaker 2: the pack behind the Warriors closing and on the top 194 00:09:56,307 --> 00:10:00,027 Speaker 2: four as we sit here today, Jake, they're on thirty points. 195 00:10:00,067 --> 00:10:02,707 Speaker 2: The Roosters, who are ninth, are on twenty six. The 196 00:10:02,707 --> 00:10:05,547 Speaker 2: Warriors couldn't fall out of the top eight, could they. 197 00:10:06,667 --> 00:10:08,827 Speaker 5: Look, obviously, it's possible. It is a bit of a 198 00:10:08,827 --> 00:10:11,027 Speaker 5: log gem there and some. 199 00:10:11,027 --> 00:10:13,267 Speaker 6: Of those teams like Cronulla and stuff have still got 200 00:10:13,267 --> 00:10:15,747 Speaker 6: to buy to come and we saw last night the 201 00:10:15,787 --> 00:10:19,307 Speaker 6: Roosters really put a really big advantage in therefore and 202 00:10:19,347 --> 00:10:22,067 Speaker 6: against beating the Dolphins. Wife I think it was sixty 203 00:10:22,067 --> 00:10:23,707 Speaker 6: odd by the end of at the end, I didn't 204 00:10:23,747 --> 00:10:27,227 Speaker 6: catch the end of the score. But yeah, there is 205 00:10:27,267 --> 00:10:29,667 Speaker 6: some teams right there in that pack. But you look 206 00:10:29,707 --> 00:10:33,147 Speaker 6: at Brisbane now that their injuries as well, considering Ezra 207 00:10:33,267 --> 00:10:37,347 Speaker 6: mam gorn So and Combo injured and then Adam Reynolds 208 00:10:37,387 --> 00:10:40,147 Speaker 6: as well, so they've got some injury concerns. As I said, 209 00:10:40,187 --> 00:10:42,987 Speaker 6: the Sharks in and there it'sabouts and they've got to 210 00:10:42,987 --> 00:10:43,747 Speaker 6: buy it their sleeve. 211 00:10:43,787 --> 00:10:45,707 Speaker 5: They've got a bit of a softer run home. 212 00:10:47,347 --> 00:10:49,627 Speaker 6: The Dragons have put two together that most people probably 213 00:10:49,627 --> 00:10:52,347 Speaker 6: think they're out of contention, but if they keep. 214 00:10:52,187 --> 00:10:53,747 Speaker 5: Winning, they're still technically alive. 215 00:10:53,827 --> 00:10:56,947 Speaker 6: And then the Dolphins like after last night's lost, where 216 00:10:56,947 --> 00:10:59,667 Speaker 6: does that leave them? So it's a bit of a 217 00:10:59,707 --> 00:11:03,147 Speaker 6: mixed back in that kind of chasing pack behind the wise, 218 00:11:03,907 --> 00:11:06,307 Speaker 6: and I think it's just probably a few teams who's 219 00:11:06,347 --> 00:11:07,707 Speaker 6: going to get it right over the next three or 220 00:11:07,707 --> 00:11:08,307 Speaker 6: four weeks. 221 00:11:08,747 --> 00:11:10,907 Speaker 2: That's indeed, And as you say, it feels like the 222 00:11:10,947 --> 00:11:14,027 Speaker 2: top four is the top four now I don't know, Raiders, storm, dogs, Panthers. 223 00:11:14,027 --> 00:11:16,227 Speaker 2: That seems like that is the top four with the 224 00:11:16,267 --> 00:11:19,227 Speaker 2: others now scrapping away. So dragons, as you say, coming 225 00:11:19,227 --> 00:11:21,307 Speaker 2: to go medium ount smart on Friday night, How would 226 00:11:21,307 --> 00:11:23,267 Speaker 2: you be structuring the week if you're Andrew Webster. 227 00:11:25,027 --> 00:11:25,827 Speaker 5: Oh, look, I. 228 00:11:25,787 --> 00:11:28,227 Speaker 6: Think first of all, you've got to just settle on 229 00:11:28,267 --> 00:11:30,627 Speaker 6: your halves straight away. They've obviously got a bit of 230 00:11:30,667 --> 00:11:33,147 Speaker 6: a quick turnaround. Got to get home today and then 231 00:11:33,147 --> 00:11:35,867 Speaker 6: play Friday, I said. I imagine they won't train too much, 232 00:11:35,987 --> 00:11:40,587 Speaker 6: probably only one field session, one major one and a 233 00:11:40,667 --> 00:11:43,547 Speaker 6: captain's run. So yeah, you've just got to settle on 234 00:11:43,627 --> 00:11:46,227 Speaker 6: your halves. I think it'd be interesting to see what 235 00:11:46,267 --> 00:11:49,027 Speaker 6: they go with Wade Egan is. Andrew Webster said last 236 00:11:49,067 --> 00:11:52,507 Speaker 6: week that the you know it's wear and tear on 237 00:11:52,547 --> 00:11:55,907 Speaker 6: that shoulder. It's not like something he needs surgery on. 238 00:11:55,987 --> 00:11:58,027 Speaker 6: He just is a guy that makes forty tackles a game. 239 00:11:58,107 --> 00:12:01,587 Speaker 6: So he's had the ac joint in issues. So he said, 240 00:12:01,587 --> 00:12:05,067 Speaker 6: it's kind of a week to week prospects. So see 241 00:12:05,107 --> 00:12:08,147 Speaker 6: what happens there. At Young Sam he played well and 242 00:12:08,187 --> 00:12:10,867 Speaker 6: then obviously James Fisher Harris was back last night. Having 243 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:16,067 Speaker 6: him back for another week probably a big boost. But yeah, 244 00:12:16,227 --> 00:12:18,147 Speaker 6: it's interesting to see what they do. 245 00:12:19,787 --> 00:12:20,347 Speaker 5: With the halves. 246 00:12:20,347 --> 00:12:22,227 Speaker 6: I think you've probably got to recall Tannaboyd and just 247 00:12:22,227 --> 00:12:22,787 Speaker 6: go from there. 248 00:12:24,587 --> 00:12:26,707 Speaker 2: Again, the Panthers are going to win this again. They're 249 00:12:26,707 --> 00:12:27,427 Speaker 2: going to win it again. 250 00:12:28,147 --> 00:12:28,427 Speaker 7: They are. 251 00:12:29,547 --> 00:12:31,467 Speaker 5: It's a very very real possibility. 252 00:12:32,987 --> 00:12:35,747 Speaker 6: Look, as you said, they're into the top four now 253 00:12:35,787 --> 00:12:39,107 Speaker 6: and I don't see them kind of relinquishing that spot. 254 00:12:39,187 --> 00:12:41,707 Speaker 6: Although I do think they do have some hard games. 255 00:12:41,707 --> 00:12:44,147 Speaker 6: I think they've got to play Canberra and I think 256 00:12:44,227 --> 00:12:46,987 Speaker 6: they've got to play Melbourne. I could be wrong about that, 257 00:12:47,107 --> 00:12:49,587 Speaker 6: but I think they do have two hard games and 258 00:12:49,587 --> 00:12:50,187 Speaker 6: they run home. 259 00:12:50,347 --> 00:12:51,947 Speaker 2: You know you did, you did right both of those? 260 00:12:52,027 --> 00:12:52,107 Speaker 8: Ye? 261 00:12:52,427 --> 00:12:52,587 Speaker 7: Yep? 262 00:12:53,107 --> 00:12:55,787 Speaker 2: And the Bulldogs and the Bulldogs Bulldog Yeah, so there 263 00:12:55,827 --> 00:12:56,147 Speaker 2: you go. 264 00:12:56,307 --> 00:13:00,547 Speaker 5: Yes, So they've got some hard games, so you never know. 265 00:13:00,587 --> 00:13:01,347 Speaker 5: But as I said, the. 266 00:13:01,307 --> 00:13:04,107 Speaker 6: Guys high and them kind of keep falling away a 267 00:13:04,107 --> 00:13:06,707 Speaker 6: little bit with the team kind of. 268 00:13:06,707 --> 00:13:07,467 Speaker 5: Chasing that pack. 269 00:13:07,547 --> 00:13:09,587 Speaker 6: And obviously the Broncos have got injuries now and the 270 00:13:09,587 --> 00:13:12,347 Speaker 6: Warriors got injuries, so there is still an opportunity to 271 00:13:12,627 --> 00:13:15,227 Speaker 6: grab that full spot back because Penders will have some 272 00:13:15,267 --> 00:13:18,187 Speaker 6: tough games and who knows what kind of effect that 273 00:13:18,227 --> 00:13:21,067 Speaker 6: has on them. You know, like they're battling that hard 274 00:13:21,107 --> 00:13:24,347 Speaker 6: to make the four, they've got to play some tough teams. 275 00:13:24,547 --> 00:13:28,147 Speaker 6: Will that affect them come finals? Because you know a 276 00:13:28,187 --> 00:13:30,187 Speaker 6: lot of these guys have had big seasons already, they've 277 00:13:30,187 --> 00:13:34,147 Speaker 6: played Origin and now they've had to fight so hard 278 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:36,147 Speaker 6: and win nine or ten straight. I think it's nine 279 00:13:36,187 --> 00:13:38,507 Speaker 6: straight to get to this point. Now they've got to 280 00:13:38,547 --> 00:13:40,747 Speaker 6: stay there. Then you've got to play finals. Like by 281 00:13:40,787 --> 00:13:43,107 Speaker 6: the time Pendrath get to a Grand Final, it's going 282 00:13:43,147 --> 00:13:47,227 Speaker 6: to be probably fifteen sixteen weeks of hard football where 283 00:13:47,227 --> 00:13:47,867 Speaker 6: they've been up. 284 00:13:48,027 --> 00:13:51,067 Speaker 5: So it's a big arc and I think that's where. 285 00:13:52,347 --> 00:13:54,867 Speaker 6: You know, this will be the test of their they 286 00:13:55,187 --> 00:13:57,147 Speaker 6: you know, they've passed the test many times of their 287 00:13:57,187 --> 00:14:00,987 Speaker 6: championship medal, but this is another one right, can you 288 00:14:01,067 --> 00:14:03,467 Speaker 6: win it? When things haven't gone your way and you've 289 00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:06,867 Speaker 6: had to just keep winning NonStop all the way through. 290 00:14:06,907 --> 00:14:08,907 Speaker 6: You haven't had the option to rest players like they've 291 00:14:08,907 --> 00:14:09,787 Speaker 6: had in previously years. 292 00:14:09,827 --> 00:14:11,667 Speaker 5: You haven't had the. 293 00:14:11,707 --> 00:14:14,107 Speaker 6: Chance to kind of have things your own way. But 294 00:14:14,787 --> 00:14:17,867 Speaker 6: you know, champion team finds finds way to do it. 295 00:14:17,907 --> 00:14:19,347 Speaker 6: So who knows. 296 00:14:19,707 --> 00:14:22,307 Speaker 2: Intriguing final month of the regular season and coming before 297 00:14:22,947 --> 00:14:25,707 Speaker 2: the finals. Jake, enjoy the warmth and comfort of the 298 00:14:25,707 --> 00:14:28,107 Speaker 2: Fox studio this afternoon. Mate, Thanks for your time today 299 00:14:28,107 --> 00:14:28,707 Speaker 2: on ZIV. 300 00:14:29,307 --> 00:14:31,307 Speaker 5: I certainly will thanks, Jase, appreciate it now. 301 00:14:31,307 --> 00:14:34,147 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, Jake, Jake Juke there familiar voice 302 00:14:34,187 --> 00:14:36,827 Speaker 2: to rugby league audiences on this side of the Tasman 303 00:14:36,867 --> 00:14:39,747 Speaker 2: part of the Fox Sport team sideline there last night. Right, 304 00:14:39,867 --> 00:14:43,787 Speaker 2: let's unpack this, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Firstly, 305 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:47,427 Speaker 2: can someone please give the Warriors injury ward a break? 306 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,547 Speaker 2: As I said to Jake, the list was long anyway. 307 00:14:51,747 --> 00:14:54,507 Speaker 2: Add to Mardy Martin to that he's definitely out next 308 00:14:54,507 --> 00:14:57,867 Speaker 2: week with a category one like Ahalasima and Kurt Capewell 309 00:14:57,947 --> 00:15:00,667 Speaker 2: left the field for HIA assessments last night. Thankfully, we're 310 00:15:00,707 --> 00:15:03,187 Speaker 2: able to both come back on. I just hope the 311 00:15:03,227 --> 00:15:05,547 Speaker 2: Cavalry are back in time. Wade Egan. You know when 312 00:15:05,627 --> 00:15:07,587 Speaker 2: he's not there, just a different team, aren't they. He 313 00:15:07,667 --> 00:15:10,467 Speaker 2: looks like he might be in contention next week from 314 00:15:10,507 --> 00:15:13,107 Speaker 2: what we're hearing with that shoulder. As I said yesterday, 315 00:15:13,187 --> 00:15:17,587 Speaker 2: Rock o'berry Alilatawa might also be back soon. But I 316 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,587 Speaker 2: mean when you lose your playmaker as the Warriors did 317 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:23,147 Speaker 2: last night with Timarti Martin and what the twenty third minute, 318 00:15:23,147 --> 00:15:26,147 Speaker 2: things just changed completely and the adjustment was too hard 319 00:15:26,147 --> 00:15:28,907 Speaker 2: for them to make. The Bulldogs were great. Look, let's 320 00:15:28,907 --> 00:15:32,987 Speaker 2: not take anything away from them. They were very good. 321 00:15:33,267 --> 00:15:36,107 Speaker 2: And Andrew Webster said afterwards, actually they were their own 322 00:15:36,147 --> 00:15:39,427 Speaker 2: worst enemies in many ways the Warriors. So just an 323 00:15:39,507 --> 00:15:45,347 Speaker 2: unhappy night on what was a dreadful evening in Sydney. 324 00:15:46,547 --> 00:15:48,987 Speaker 2: So now the Warriors still a top four side. Well, 325 00:15:49,027 --> 00:15:51,827 Speaker 2: the maths would say yes, they can still be. There 326 00:15:51,827 --> 00:15:54,907 Speaker 2: are still eight points to play for common sense and 327 00:15:54,947 --> 00:15:58,707 Speaker 2: gup Fiel though now says no, it's just starting to 328 00:15:58,747 --> 00:16:01,067 Speaker 2: feel to me and you might have a view on this, 329 00:16:01,827 --> 00:16:03,947 Speaker 2: like the top four now are the top four Raiders 330 00:16:03,987 --> 00:16:09,067 Speaker 2: Storm Bulldogs Panthers, all sides in good form at the 331 00:16:09,107 --> 00:16:12,147 Speaker 2: right time of the season. Warriors fifth now and there 332 00:16:13,187 --> 00:16:15,987 Speaker 2: through these last set of results, five defeats in their 333 00:16:16,027 --> 00:16:18,787 Speaker 2: last seven, they've been drawn into a top eight dog fight. 334 00:16:18,867 --> 00:16:23,667 Speaker 2: Now they're fifth on thirty Broncos twenty eight, Sharks twenty eight, 335 00:16:23,787 --> 00:16:27,667 Speaker 2: Dolphins twenty six, and the ninth place Roosters also on 336 00:16:27,707 --> 00:16:32,347 Speaker 2: twenty six. Now hugely impressive. Last night putting sixty odd 337 00:16:32,387 --> 00:16:34,467 Speaker 2: on the Dolphins to draw level with them on points 338 00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:40,107 Speaker 2: four games to go. Last night was a massive game. 339 00:16:40,107 --> 00:16:42,187 Speaker 2: As I said about twenty four hours ago, for the 340 00:16:42,227 --> 00:16:46,107 Speaker 2: top four hopes of the Warriors, that feels now like 341 00:16:47,387 --> 00:16:50,507 Speaker 2: it ain't gonna happen This coming Friday at home against 342 00:16:50,507 --> 00:16:55,987 Speaker 2: the Dragons is now massive four the top eight. Let's 343 00:16:55,987 --> 00:16:57,227 Speaker 2: get into it. Takes some calls. 344 00:16:57,267 --> 00:17:01,027 Speaker 9: Hello, Bruce, Yeah, Hi Piney, how are you Mane? 345 00:17:01,227 --> 00:17:02,707 Speaker 2: I'm okay, Bruce, I'm okay. 346 00:17:03,427 --> 00:17:08,987 Speaker 9: Yeah. My handkerchiefs absolutely so. After the rotching last night, 347 00:17:09,027 --> 00:17:11,227 Speaker 9: And it wasn't the rain, it was the tears coming 348 00:17:11,307 --> 00:17:15,987 Speaker 9: down the face were there, but yeah, I mean it 349 00:17:16,107 --> 00:17:21,907 Speaker 9: wasn't to any lack of lack of effort. But you know, 350 00:17:21,987 --> 00:17:27,627 Speaker 9: with these injuries, they've just it's dest the whole sort 351 00:17:27,627 --> 00:17:29,947 Speaker 9: of cohesion of the side. But do you know what 352 00:17:30,067 --> 00:17:32,947 Speaker 9: happened over Boyd? What was the story with him not 353 00:17:33,107 --> 00:17:34,267 Speaker 9: starving in the hearts? 354 00:17:35,027 --> 00:17:38,507 Speaker 2: Andrew Webster said that Tomighty Martin earned his place during 355 00:17:38,547 --> 00:17:40,747 Speaker 2: the week. You know, obviously they name a team on 356 00:17:40,787 --> 00:17:42,747 Speaker 2: the on the Tuesday, don't they, which is a long 357 00:17:42,787 --> 00:17:44,907 Speaker 2: way out and they're quite and then the rights to 358 00:17:44,987 --> 00:17:48,547 Speaker 2: change it. Yeah, Andrew Webster said afterwards, Timmighty earned his place. 359 00:17:49,067 --> 00:17:52,267 Speaker 2: But obviously it'll you know, they'll go back to Tanner 360 00:17:52,267 --> 00:17:53,827 Speaker 2: Boyd And I have to give it to Andrew Webster. 361 00:17:53,907 --> 00:17:55,667 Speaker 2: He said last night that you know, Tanner board was 362 00:17:55,747 --> 00:17:57,747 Speaker 2: very good in the new Southwest Cup Cup side and 363 00:17:57,787 --> 00:18:01,627 Speaker 2: he will come straight back in, you know, and presumably 364 00:18:02,067 --> 00:18:06,707 Speaker 2: he'll he'll partner Chanelle Harris Tavita in the in the 365 00:18:06,747 --> 00:18:09,867 Speaker 2: halves again as they had done for two or three 366 00:18:09,907 --> 00:18:13,427 Speaker 2: games previously. But yeah, that was the situation, just a 367 00:18:13,587 --> 00:18:14,787 Speaker 2: form decision. 368 00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:17,547 Speaker 9: Yeah. But one thing I want to bring up was 369 00:18:17,907 --> 00:18:20,147 Speaker 9: it seems to be a really strange thing in the 370 00:18:20,227 --> 00:18:24,827 Speaker 9: league at the moment, you know, like in the it 371 00:18:24,987 --> 00:18:27,747 Speaker 9: was in about the first ten minutes and I can't 372 00:18:27,747 --> 00:18:30,507 Speaker 9: remember the Worri this guy that got hit, but he 373 00:18:30,547 --> 00:18:34,187 Speaker 9: got hit with a straight out shoulder charge to the 374 00:18:34,267 --> 00:18:39,227 Speaker 9: head and had to go off for you know, for 375 00:18:39,267 --> 00:18:44,267 Speaker 9: a head assessment, which is a minimum fifteen minutes anyway, 376 00:18:44,827 --> 00:18:46,987 Speaker 9: and the guy who actually hit him and it was 377 00:18:47,027 --> 00:18:50,267 Speaker 9: blatant is put on report but stays on the field. 378 00:18:50,347 --> 00:18:53,387 Speaker 9: So we lose a player. He just the guy who 379 00:18:53,427 --> 00:18:57,347 Speaker 9: does it just keeps on carrying on to change rule. 380 00:18:57,627 --> 00:19:00,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one down, isn't it from the ten of 381 00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:03,507 Speaker 2: the bin. It's not serious enough to be sent to 382 00:19:03,547 --> 00:19:06,947 Speaker 2: the bin straight away. It is serious enough to be 383 00:19:07,027 --> 00:19:10,187 Speaker 2: looked at, you know, in hindsight, and will be looked at. 384 00:19:10,187 --> 00:19:12,947 Speaker 2: I think was the one on Helisima that you're talking about, Bruce. 385 00:19:13,067 --> 00:19:17,147 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, pretty serious to me. I've taken a few 386 00:19:17,947 --> 00:19:21,827 Speaker 9: head highs. I know what they're like, but too many, 387 00:19:22,267 --> 00:19:24,627 Speaker 9: which is why I'm but strange, not at all. 388 00:19:24,827 --> 00:19:27,547 Speaker 2: You're very lucid, very lucid, Bruce. 389 00:19:28,347 --> 00:19:31,227 Speaker 9: Thanks mate, But yeah, yeah, I just thought it was 390 00:19:31,227 --> 00:19:32,587 Speaker 9: a serious one, that one. 391 00:19:33,147 --> 00:19:35,387 Speaker 2: Indeed. Hey, good to chatty you. Bruce has always love 392 00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:37,787 Speaker 2: chatting ragby league with your call back anytime mate on 393 00:19:37,867 --> 00:19:40,427 Speaker 2: text here mate, one more win. They're locked into the playoffs, 394 00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:43,187 Speaker 2: simple as that at thirty two points, it'll do well. 395 00:19:43,187 --> 00:19:44,827 Speaker 2: Mass would say no, but I know what you're saying. 396 00:19:44,907 --> 00:19:47,547 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. It's unlikely, you know, especially 397 00:19:47,547 --> 00:19:50,027 Speaker 2: given the results at the moment, that everybody below them 398 00:19:50,067 --> 00:19:51,827 Speaker 2: is going to win every game. So yeah, thirty two 399 00:19:51,827 --> 00:19:54,747 Speaker 2: points may be enough. And the text goes on to say, 400 00:19:54,747 --> 00:19:56,547 Speaker 2: the icing on the cake is to finish fifth or 401 00:19:56,627 --> 00:19:59,867 Speaker 2: sixth for a home playoff. Correct, that is what we're 402 00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:03,147 Speaker 2: after here, a top Now that the top four, I 403 00:20:03,187 --> 00:20:04,987 Speaker 2: think we can all look, we'd love them to be 404 00:20:05,027 --> 00:20:07,467 Speaker 2: in the four, but we can all now probably say, well, 405 00:20:07,987 --> 00:20:10,747 Speaker 2: the very least, it's out of the Warrior's hands. They 406 00:20:10,947 --> 00:20:13,027 Speaker 2: they even if they were to win their last four games, 407 00:20:13,227 --> 00:20:14,987 Speaker 2: that might not be enough to make the top four. 408 00:20:15,027 --> 00:20:17,907 Speaker 2: So let's talk about five through eight, perhaps as a 409 00:20:17,907 --> 00:20:21,827 Speaker 2: more realistic proposition, and trying to finish as high up 410 00:20:21,867 --> 00:20:24,507 Speaker 2: in the five to eight bracket as possible. As the 411 00:20:24,547 --> 00:20:27,467 Speaker 2: text says, five and six get a home playoff with 412 00:20:27,587 --> 00:20:30,267 Speaker 2: the amount of injuries it finishes, it's not their fault 413 00:20:30,267 --> 00:20:32,867 Speaker 2: they're out of the top four. No, the injuries are 414 00:20:32,907 --> 00:20:35,547 Speaker 2: a huge part of the explanation for where they are 415 00:20:37,867 --> 00:20:40,347 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty our number lyle home mate. 416 00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:43,947 Speaker 10: Yeah, thank congratulations from the bull. 417 00:20:43,987 --> 00:20:44,667 Speaker 11: Go on so play. 418 00:20:44,987 --> 00:20:48,467 Speaker 10: You're just superbly and you're all right. You cannot stand 419 00:20:48,507 --> 00:20:51,547 Speaker 10: that club or tectors of the support base. But we 420 00:20:51,627 --> 00:20:57,667 Speaker 10: won't get political. But the steps lie the Warriors thirty 421 00:20:57,787 --> 00:21:01,387 Speaker 10: three tattles. I thought tenor boys would have been demanded 422 00:21:01,387 --> 00:21:03,747 Speaker 10: to play in those positions to be put of the way. 423 00:21:04,267 --> 00:21:08,107 Speaker 10: His kicking gamer is that I'm not usually one of 424 00:21:08,147 --> 00:21:11,987 Speaker 10: the prescribed to recring bias, but that first tried the 425 00:21:12,027 --> 00:21:15,067 Speaker 10: dog spot. If that wasn't a double movement, I don't 426 00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:17,867 Speaker 10: know what was despite the weather, Yeah. 427 00:21:19,307 --> 00:21:22,987 Speaker 2: They said, was boss on commentsary last night said you, 428 00:21:23,067 --> 00:21:26,067 Speaker 2: I'm not too sure because yeah, he he sort of 429 00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:27,987 Speaker 2: had to turn his body, didn't he to get it down, 430 00:21:28,067 --> 00:21:30,107 Speaker 2: which which looked you know, if it had been called 431 00:21:30,107 --> 00:21:31,667 Speaker 2: a double movement, I'm not sure there would have been 432 00:21:31,707 --> 00:21:32,427 Speaker 2: too many complaints. 433 00:21:33,787 --> 00:21:37,347 Speaker 10: And yeah, well Eagans once a week before also the 434 00:21:37,387 --> 00:21:40,187 Speaker 10: Warriors got done for tackling of fail without the fall 435 00:21:40,547 --> 00:21:44,067 Speaker 10: and it definitely was a shepherd. And then that the 436 00:21:44,187 --> 00:21:48,387 Speaker 10: last thing, probably Fisher Harris getting up and pushing Crichton 437 00:21:49,067 --> 00:21:52,227 Speaker 10: and they got penalized for that. The Shepherds in every playable. 438 00:21:52,867 --> 00:21:55,867 Speaker 10: You know, I'm really going to wonder sometimes when Canterbury's 439 00:21:55,907 --> 00:22:00,387 Speaker 10: involved as the game. They sponsor banks Town Kebabs and 440 00:22:00,467 --> 00:22:03,547 Speaker 10: they gave the award based on ground to the official room. 441 00:22:03,907 --> 00:22:08,787 Speaker 10: Having said that the Warrior is Yeah, well they should 442 00:22:08,907 --> 00:22:12,467 Speaker 10: make the eight. But I don't know about fifteen and 443 00:22:12,507 --> 00:22:16,067 Speaker 10: six having home games. I thought only the top four hit. 444 00:22:16,027 --> 00:22:17,027 Speaker 12: The home game. 445 00:22:17,107 --> 00:22:18,147 Speaker 10: I may be wrong there. 446 00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:21,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, no five five to eight bracket. Yeah, the five 447 00:22:21,147 --> 00:22:23,387 Speaker 2: to eight brackets a straight knockout. So five plays eight, 448 00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:26,707 Speaker 2: six plays seven with the with the winners going through. Yeah, 449 00:22:26,707 --> 00:22:29,747 Speaker 2: the top four playoff in a similar fashion, but if 450 00:22:29,747 --> 00:22:32,067 Speaker 2: you lose in the top four you get the extra life. 451 00:22:33,507 --> 00:22:36,387 Speaker 10: Look like I said to you before that, it's like 452 00:22:37,707 --> 00:22:39,787 Speaker 10: the Mountourn Cup. They've turned for home. They're in the 453 00:22:39,867 --> 00:22:43,107 Speaker 10: league back, but they're fading badly. The problem now, I 454 00:22:43,147 --> 00:22:47,307 Speaker 10: think three lots is it's going to start to become 455 00:22:47,347 --> 00:22:50,067 Speaker 10: a confidence thing, you know, a mental thing. They've had 456 00:22:50,107 --> 00:22:52,907 Speaker 10: a shocking room of injuries. But bear in mind South 457 00:22:52,947 --> 00:22:57,307 Speaker 10: Sydney they've got eight million high right, eight million dollars 458 00:22:56,427 --> 00:23:01,667 Speaker 10: with the sideline on the seventeen that we should be 459 00:23:01,707 --> 00:23:06,907 Speaker 10: taking the field fourteen or on the sideline. But yeah, look, 460 00:23:07,867 --> 00:23:11,587 Speaker 10: hopefully they can produce something and fillage high and go 461 00:23:11,667 --> 00:23:11,947 Speaker 10: out with. 462 00:23:13,427 --> 00:23:14,027 Speaker 5: A good effort. 463 00:23:14,067 --> 00:23:17,547 Speaker 10: But it's not going to be this year. Perhaps twenty 464 00:23:18,147 --> 00:23:20,267 Speaker 10: seven for the better run on injuries. 465 00:23:20,627 --> 00:23:24,587 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, loll look yeah, look they're there, right, they're 466 00:23:24,587 --> 00:23:26,987 Speaker 2: there thereabouts. If they make the ad, it's better than 467 00:23:27,027 --> 00:23:28,907 Speaker 2: last year. And I think most people going into this 468 00:23:28,987 --> 00:23:31,387 Speaker 2: year off the back of last year would said if 469 00:23:31,427 --> 00:23:33,267 Speaker 2: you'd offered them top eight at the start of the season, 470 00:23:33,267 --> 00:23:36,027 Speaker 2: they would have bit in your handle for it. Unfortunately, 471 00:23:36,067 --> 00:23:39,067 Speaker 2: we've been conditioned to the success of the Warriors, and 472 00:23:39,107 --> 00:23:41,587 Speaker 2: I've lived in the top four since April. Now they're 473 00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:43,547 Speaker 2: dropping out of it, and you can't help but feel 474 00:23:43,587 --> 00:23:46,667 Speaker 2: disappointed at what might have been injuries. Yes, huge part 475 00:23:46,667 --> 00:23:49,667 Speaker 2: of it, massive part of it. Can't be discounted as 476 00:23:49,667 --> 00:23:54,507 Speaker 2: as an explanation for what's happened. Only one thing in 477 00:23:54,547 --> 00:23:57,467 Speaker 2: the Warrior's favor, says Jamie, is the Panthers have a 478 00:23:57,507 --> 00:24:00,827 Speaker 2: tougher drawer. They have to play Storm, Bulldogs and Raiders. Correct, 479 00:24:01,307 --> 00:24:04,267 Speaker 2: But I look at I look at the Panthers, Jamie, 480 00:24:04,907 --> 00:24:07,867 Speaker 2: what are they want? Nine in a row incredible team. 481 00:24:08,107 --> 00:24:09,947 Speaker 2: Half past twelve. We'll take a break spear line there 482 00:24:09,987 --> 00:24:11,387 Speaker 2: if you want to jump aboard at one hundred and 483 00:24:11,427 --> 00:24:13,947 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty, they're filling up fast. Get your point across. 484 00:24:13,987 --> 00:24:15,907 Speaker 2: On the Warriors. We're talking about them until one back 485 00:24:15,907 --> 00:24:16,147 Speaker 2: in the. 486 00:24:16,067 --> 00:24:21,547 Speaker 1: Moment one Crunch Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Pim 487 00:24:21,747 --> 00:24:25,227 Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunder Homes, New Zealand's first trusted home. Milder 488 00:24:25,387 --> 00:24:26,787 Speaker 1: News talk to Baby. 489 00:24:26,747 --> 00:24:29,027 Speaker 2: Twenty six to one talking Warriors. Could I ben. 490 00:24:31,307 --> 00:24:33,227 Speaker 5: Funny? How are you very very good? 491 00:24:33,267 --> 00:24:33,907 Speaker 2: Being very good? 492 00:24:33,987 --> 00:24:34,907 Speaker 5: Mate? 493 00:24:36,387 --> 00:24:38,027 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the words. 494 00:24:38,747 --> 00:24:39,467 Speaker 13: Yeah. 495 00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:42,587 Speaker 12: I was absolutely rapped with the last night's performance. Just 496 00:24:42,627 --> 00:24:47,347 Speaker 12: dominated the Doggies both first half, second half and absolutely 497 00:24:47,387 --> 00:24:49,707 Speaker 12: smacked them. 498 00:24:50,187 --> 00:24:52,667 Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing, mate. 499 00:24:53,227 --> 00:24:55,387 Speaker 2: You're talking about the early You're talking about the early game. 500 00:24:56,587 --> 00:25:02,547 Speaker 12: You know, no looks Yeah, Tyra Tyra away today we 501 00:25:03,187 --> 00:25:04,107 Speaker 12: water machine. 502 00:25:04,307 --> 00:25:04,907 Speaker 13: What a talent. 503 00:25:06,107 --> 00:25:08,707 Speaker 12: Yeah No, I was just absolutely blowing away. 504 00:25:08,947 --> 00:25:09,107 Speaker 14: Yeah. 505 00:25:09,107 --> 00:25:11,347 Speaker 12: I watched the Woman's Now Tiny. 506 00:25:12,147 --> 00:25:14,907 Speaker 2: They were so good last night. Being honestly, I watched 507 00:25:14,947 --> 00:25:17,907 Speaker 2: that game too. I was so impressed with them. I 508 00:25:17,947 --> 00:25:19,027 Speaker 2: thought they were terrific. 509 00:25:19,107 --> 00:25:19,307 Speaker 13: Man. 510 00:25:20,987 --> 00:25:23,707 Speaker 12: I just think you know there was the injuries for 511 00:25:23,787 --> 00:25:27,747 Speaker 12: the first two games. But I think that game they 512 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:31,507 Speaker 12: they didn't really get there early enough, you know, and 513 00:25:31,547 --> 00:25:34,467 Speaker 12: climatize and localize and all that and get over the 514 00:25:34,547 --> 00:25:37,227 Speaker 12: jet leg. Because last night I was watching their game 515 00:25:37,387 --> 00:25:40,027 Speaker 12: and Georsy in there. I started getting a bit tired 516 00:25:40,067 --> 00:25:45,147 Speaker 12: and I fell asleep Georsy, So I think they Yeah, 517 00:25:45,187 --> 00:25:47,347 Speaker 12: they didn't really do that thing with the body cloth, 518 00:25:47,627 --> 00:25:49,907 Speaker 12: you know, they got a bit tired. 519 00:25:50,427 --> 00:25:50,827 Speaker 13: Yeah. 520 00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:54,547 Speaker 2: Look, I the woman was great, the woman great. What 521 00:25:54,587 --> 00:25:56,787 Speaker 2: about the men though? Man, what did you take from that? 522 00:25:58,347 --> 00:26:00,467 Speaker 12: I'm going to keep the faith, as I have done 523 00:26:00,667 --> 00:26:06,147 Speaker 12: for since day one. But yeah, look, I'm you know, 524 00:26:07,067 --> 00:26:11,347 Speaker 12: things can happen, and it just takes another team to 525 00:26:11,387 --> 00:26:13,707 Speaker 12: lose and have a bad day and we're back in it. 526 00:26:13,787 --> 00:26:19,147 Speaker 12: So at hey, we've seen them do all sorts of 527 00:26:19,467 --> 00:26:22,107 Speaker 12: surprises all the time, and I think they can turn 528 00:26:22,147 --> 00:26:25,347 Speaker 12: it around by ye winning all the games here and 529 00:26:25,427 --> 00:26:28,707 Speaker 12: another team loses as well. We'd so keep the faith. 530 00:26:28,747 --> 00:26:31,907 Speaker 12: But yeah, just next time, I think, get there earlier 531 00:26:32,827 --> 00:26:34,667 Speaker 12: or yet. Tira on the wing. 532 00:26:35,947 --> 00:26:38,507 Speaker 2: I love it, Ben the women. Actually, next two weekends 533 00:26:38,507 --> 00:26:42,107 Speaker 2: are in Hamilton. They got the Raiders Saturday and then 534 00:26:42,107 --> 00:26:45,067 Speaker 2: the following Sunday, the Sharks worth going along to see 535 00:26:45,507 --> 00:26:47,427 Speaker 2: those of you in the White cuttle and even those 536 00:26:47,427 --> 00:26:51,067 Speaker 2: of you who are in driving distance. They were tremendous 537 00:26:51,147 --> 00:26:53,747 Speaker 2: last night. And the wet was as wet in the 538 00:26:53,747 --> 00:26:56,067 Speaker 2: women's game as it was and the men's I thought 539 00:26:56,107 --> 00:27:01,107 Speaker 2: they were just terrific. Paul, level headed analysis from you, 540 00:27:01,147 --> 00:27:01,667 Speaker 2: please mate? 541 00:27:04,547 --> 00:27:07,707 Speaker 15: Well you know, yeah, I want to read is the 542 00:27:07,987 --> 00:27:10,467 Speaker 15: last guy comment? You know, can we keep the face? 543 00:27:10,507 --> 00:27:15,267 Speaker 15: And of course bony, but you know, if you had 544 00:27:15,307 --> 00:27:17,627 Speaker 15: us said to me after last year we finished through things, 545 00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:20,747 Speaker 15: then if you had us said to me this year that, 546 00:27:21,427 --> 00:27:24,547 Speaker 15: you know, especially after losing Fillerwell Blake and Tahu Harris 547 00:27:24,547 --> 00:27:28,147 Speaker 15: and Shawn Johnson's retirement, that we would be fourth after 548 00:27:28,267 --> 00:27:31,027 Speaker 15: round twenty three, you know, I probably would have laughed 549 00:27:31,067 --> 00:27:33,867 Speaker 15: at you, you know, after the last year's performance. You know, 550 00:27:34,227 --> 00:27:36,587 Speaker 15: the whole the could hard reality is, yes, we've got 551 00:27:36,707 --> 00:27:39,987 Speaker 15: I think eight or nine t injuries out. It's it's 552 00:27:40,027 --> 00:27:43,147 Speaker 15: a it's a funny. And the teams that can go 553 00:27:43,267 --> 00:27:47,187 Speaker 15: through the season keeping your full team or you know, 554 00:27:47,347 --> 00:27:51,507 Speaker 15: minimal injuries through the competition is the teams are the 555 00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:53,987 Speaker 15: teams that will will you be there or there about 556 00:27:53,987 --> 00:27:58,387 Speaker 15: to the end. So unfortunately that's not us. But you know, 557 00:27:59,187 --> 00:28:01,467 Speaker 15: to be in to make the eighth, we keep the 558 00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:04,267 Speaker 15: face and you know we've got Saint George and we've 559 00:28:04,267 --> 00:28:07,547 Speaker 15: got the eels. It's just a tough competition, you know. 560 00:28:07,627 --> 00:28:11,107 Speaker 15: I mean, honestly, Pony. You know, there's some of the 561 00:28:11,267 --> 00:28:14,067 Speaker 15: upsets I've seen recently, and he just can't. 562 00:28:13,907 --> 00:28:15,827 Speaker 13: Pigot this year. It's just so hard. 563 00:28:15,907 --> 00:28:18,147 Speaker 15: I mean, it's yeah, we should beat the we should 564 00:28:18,187 --> 00:28:20,587 Speaker 15: beat Saint George. But look what Saint George did to 565 00:28:20,667 --> 00:28:21,507 Speaker 15: the Sharksys today. 566 00:28:21,547 --> 00:28:24,907 Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, it's just. 567 00:28:25,467 --> 00:28:27,467 Speaker 4: It's a tough, tough competition, Ponnie. 568 00:28:27,467 --> 00:28:30,027 Speaker 15: But you know, we keep the faith, mate, like I said, 569 00:28:30,067 --> 00:28:33,907 Speaker 15: and we'll be there, you know, with a sold out 570 00:28:33,947 --> 00:28:36,987 Speaker 15: crowd on Friday. Next Friday was against Saint George, and 571 00:28:37,387 --> 00:28:39,467 Speaker 15: we'll begin we'll be riding the boards all the way. 572 00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:39,787 Speaker 13: Mate. 573 00:28:40,947 --> 00:28:43,067 Speaker 2: What did you think of the decision to bring in 574 00:28:43,147 --> 00:28:47,227 Speaker 2: to Mighty Martin and also Freddy Lussk earlier in the week, obviously, 575 00:28:48,507 --> 00:28:54,347 Speaker 2: Tanner Boyd and and Sam Healey were named in those positions. 576 00:28:54,707 --> 00:28:56,907 Speaker 2: What did you make of those changes? 577 00:28:58,347 --> 00:29:03,067 Speaker 15: I was actually quite surprised then, and boy hasn't really 578 00:29:03,307 --> 00:29:07,347 Speaker 15: really owned a seven jersey. It was a dry track, 579 00:29:07,707 --> 00:29:10,667 Speaker 15: I probably would have been okay with it. But because 580 00:29:10,747 --> 00:29:13,507 Speaker 15: ten of boy's got such a good kicking game, I 581 00:29:13,547 --> 00:29:15,707 Speaker 15: would have thought in the wet conditions, he's the guy 582 00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:18,147 Speaker 15: that you want to be there in the number seven, 583 00:29:18,227 --> 00:29:21,707 Speaker 15: you know, because of his a good long kicker, short kicker, 584 00:29:23,307 --> 00:29:25,187 Speaker 15: So you know I would have thought in the rain. 585 00:29:25,267 --> 00:29:27,747 Speaker 15: Yet ten of boys to go, I was very very surprised. 586 00:29:27,787 --> 00:29:30,387 Speaker 15: But you know there ZiT mean, now we're going to 587 00:29:30,467 --> 00:29:32,987 Speaker 15: see a young boy by the name McCleary come onto 588 00:29:33,027 --> 00:29:35,307 Speaker 15: the bench of it tonight. He's out, you know, and 589 00:29:36,307 --> 00:29:38,227 Speaker 15: you know he's been just clean it, you know, and 590 00:29:38,267 --> 00:29:39,987 Speaker 15: he's just saying, you know, if you if you're you're 591 00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:42,467 Speaker 15: good enough, you're old enough, and maybe it's just time 592 00:29:42,547 --> 00:29:45,547 Speaker 15: to come onto the bench and show what he's got. 593 00:29:45,627 --> 00:29:48,787 Speaker 15: But yeah, I mean, end of the day, poney. You 594 00:29:48,827 --> 00:29:51,507 Speaker 15: know it was Sydney pouring in with the rain against 595 00:29:51,547 --> 00:29:54,147 Speaker 15: the bulldogs who are flying at the moment. So you 596 00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:57,507 Speaker 15: know we just lock Calhound's mate and get behind the 597 00:29:57,547 --> 00:29:58,147 Speaker 15: boys next. 598 00:29:58,027 --> 00:30:00,587 Speaker 2: Week, love it, Paul, good on? Your mate? Is George 599 00:30:00,627 --> 00:30:03,267 Speaker 2: chadding to you that, well, we'll get it up again 600 00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:07,787 Speaker 2: next weekend. Absolutely, I take it easy. Oh eight hundred 601 00:30:07,787 --> 00:30:11,867 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty Yeah, the Dolphins, right, Dolphins beat 602 00:30:11,907 --> 00:30:14,147 Speaker 2: the Warriors last week, didn't they right at the end? 603 00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:19,267 Speaker 2: And then yesterday you see that Roosters put sixty four 604 00:30:19,387 --> 00:30:21,667 Speaker 2: on them, even the Broncos. I know it was against 605 00:30:21,707 --> 00:30:25,267 Speaker 2: the Storm. They lost the Sharks, as Paul just pointed out, 606 00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:29,107 Speaker 2: lost to the Dragons. I see yesterday that if results 607 00:30:29,147 --> 00:30:31,747 Speaker 2: went against us, we could be as low as seventh 608 00:30:31,787 --> 00:30:36,147 Speaker 2: after the weekend, and that is that was mathematical fact. 609 00:30:36,307 --> 00:30:41,027 Speaker 2: But the teams below us couldn't do the job for themselves. 610 00:30:41,347 --> 00:30:43,787 Speaker 2: There are any number of twists and turns left in 611 00:30:43,827 --> 00:30:48,507 Speaker 2: this season. Dragons home, Titans away, Eels home, see Eagles away? 612 00:30:48,947 --> 00:30:49,947 Speaker 2: Where have you got us finishing? 613 00:30:50,027 --> 00:30:50,267 Speaker 7: Mark? 614 00:30:52,867 --> 00:30:53,027 Speaker 13: Oh? 615 00:30:53,107 --> 00:30:57,627 Speaker 11: My predictive fis last night I was actually as is 616 00:30:57,667 --> 00:31:00,427 Speaker 11: a low budget better. I was riding your tap was 617 00:31:00,507 --> 00:31:03,227 Speaker 11: a greggy that he had the Blues and not the 618 00:31:03,267 --> 00:31:06,067 Speaker 11: Blues opened to win by one to twelve, didn't they? 619 00:31:06,147 --> 00:31:06,307 Speaker 13: Yeah? 620 00:31:06,427 --> 00:31:08,747 Speaker 2: I was watching that too, Mark, I was. I was 621 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:12,427 Speaker 2: riding them home to for him four hundred marks. I know, 622 00:31:12,987 --> 00:31:15,827 Speaker 2: I know he couldn't got and then canvary those dastardly 623 00:31:16,027 --> 00:31:18,627 Speaker 2: Cantabrians scored in the last ten minutes and took it 624 00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:19,307 Speaker 2: away from them. 625 00:31:20,227 --> 00:31:23,107 Speaker 11: Always second half of the Canary, isn't it here is 626 00:31:23,147 --> 00:31:25,947 Speaker 11: a hurricane? We know too much, too much. 627 00:31:25,827 --> 00:31:26,227 Speaker 13: About that. 628 00:31:27,747 --> 00:31:30,747 Speaker 11: Last night's game. I thought there were some terrible calls. 629 00:31:31,147 --> 00:31:35,507 Speaker 11: I thought, you know, obviously to Martin was injury affected it. 630 00:31:35,587 --> 00:31:37,747 Speaker 11: But I think the Dogs deserve to win. You know, 631 00:31:37,787 --> 00:31:40,427 Speaker 11: they had a fantastic kicking game and they just they 632 00:31:40,547 --> 00:31:43,387 Speaker 11: just screwed, screwed. The Warriors were their defense. I think 633 00:31:43,427 --> 00:31:46,187 Speaker 11: that was sort of acknowledged in the in the in 634 00:31:46,267 --> 00:31:49,387 Speaker 11: the postmatch to the conference. But you need have to 635 00:31:49,507 --> 00:31:53,587 Speaker 11: win the NRL competition and I don't I don't think 636 00:31:53,627 --> 00:31:55,467 Speaker 11: Town of Boyd. I mean, I don't like putting the 637 00:31:55,467 --> 00:31:57,307 Speaker 11: boot into players. You know, as you get older, you 638 00:31:57,347 --> 00:32:02,067 Speaker 11: don't a bit said. But I think Martin and Egan 639 00:32:02,227 --> 00:32:06,107 Speaker 11: are probably the key to success of the Warriors going forward. 640 00:32:06,147 --> 00:32:09,907 Speaker 11: You you really need that have or some playmakers to 641 00:32:10,027 --> 00:32:13,027 Speaker 11: be you know the difference, you know what I mean. Yeah, 642 00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:17,747 Speaker 11: any n R teams that win the competition without a 643 00:32:17,907 --> 00:32:20,307 Speaker 11: star number seven, number six, and I think that was 644 00:32:20,387 --> 00:32:24,067 Speaker 11: probably the key to you know, Melbourne success. They had 645 00:32:24,187 --> 00:32:27,307 Speaker 11: two absolutely probably two of the best hards in the game, 646 00:32:27,707 --> 00:32:30,027 Speaker 11: and they both could kick, and they both you know, 647 00:32:30,547 --> 00:32:32,787 Speaker 11: could be playmakers, and that was that was a huge 648 00:32:32,947 --> 00:32:36,027 Speaker 11: benefit to that team. That sort of accounted for their 649 00:32:36,227 --> 00:32:38,747 Speaker 11: success over the well pretty much a decade. 650 00:32:38,787 --> 00:32:40,987 Speaker 2: I guess, well, you look at who was playing well 651 00:32:41,067 --> 00:32:42,667 Speaker 2: for us, sorry market, you look at who was playing 652 00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:47,307 Speaker 2: well for us during the that that you know, period 653 00:32:47,347 --> 00:32:50,587 Speaker 2: of really good success in the number seven Jersey, and 654 00:32:50,627 --> 00:32:52,547 Speaker 2: it was Luke Metcalf. You know, he was at the 655 00:32:52,627 --> 00:32:54,267 Speaker 2: top of the dally M when they when they took 656 00:32:54,267 --> 00:32:56,587 Speaker 2: a behind closed doors, he was. He was one of 657 00:32:56,627 --> 00:32:59,067 Speaker 2: the standout players in the comp. And I know he's 658 00:32:59,107 --> 00:33:00,987 Speaker 2: not there and you've got a legislate for injuries, but 659 00:33:01,467 --> 00:33:03,307 Speaker 2: in fact remains he was a huge part of the 660 00:33:03,347 --> 00:33:05,867 Speaker 2: Warrior's success in the in the early part of the season. 661 00:33:07,107 --> 00:33:09,467 Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, I think you're completely right about that. And 662 00:33:09,547 --> 00:33:11,907 Speaker 11: I mean, obviously Barnett going was a big loss, but 663 00:33:11,987 --> 00:33:14,987 Speaker 11: I think Mitt Kalf was even a bigger loss. He's 664 00:33:15,107 --> 00:33:17,187 Speaker 11: really taken out. I mean, every alms going. How are 665 00:33:17,187 --> 00:33:20,507 Speaker 11: we going to replace Seawan Johnson? Well, Metcalf, who was 666 00:33:20,587 --> 00:33:23,147 Speaker 11: pretty much you know, in the past, was pretty much 667 00:33:24,027 --> 00:33:27,667 Speaker 11: I guess a Plotter. But you know it's to me 668 00:33:27,827 --> 00:33:29,587 Speaker 11: the Warriors are in good stead. You know, you look 669 00:33:29,627 --> 00:33:32,507 Speaker 11: at the reserve grade. They're completely blitzing their competition and 670 00:33:33,067 --> 00:33:35,667 Speaker 11: they're feeding their feeding. That's going to feed into the 671 00:33:35,707 --> 00:33:37,907 Speaker 11: inner oil for another two or three years. So I mean, 672 00:33:38,227 --> 00:33:40,267 Speaker 11: even if they don't finish well this year, you know 673 00:33:40,347 --> 00:33:41,867 Speaker 11: they've got a good future. I reckon. 674 00:33:42,387 --> 00:33:44,187 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Mark, good on your mate. Yeah, and 675 00:33:44,427 --> 00:33:46,307 Speaker 2: we're starting to see the spine of that that team 676 00:33:46,387 --> 00:33:48,227 Speaker 2: come through and play by the first grade. You know, 677 00:33:48,387 --> 00:33:50,867 Speaker 2: tag Dwopaki, Sam Healy or I thought was quite good 678 00:33:50,867 --> 00:33:55,947 Speaker 2: when he came on last night, you know, Tanner Boyd. Yeah, 679 00:33:55,987 --> 00:33:58,747 Speaker 2: but you wonder whether it's time for Jet Clary. You know, 680 00:33:58,947 --> 00:34:00,907 Speaker 2: it might it might be a hail Mary, and you 681 00:34:01,027 --> 00:34:03,067 Speaker 2: might just be checking a bloke in there because he's 682 00:34:03,107 --> 00:34:05,667 Speaker 2: got a good surname. But he's been playing well from 683 00:34:05,827 --> 00:34:08,387 Speaker 2: all account, Jack Clary, so maybe I don't know, maybe 684 00:34:08,387 --> 00:34:10,307 Speaker 2: you do give him a crack. But Luke Metcalf, I 685 00:34:10,347 --> 00:34:14,987 Speaker 2: don't think you can underestimate the impact he had on 686 00:34:15,067 --> 00:34:17,907 Speaker 2: the side, and I don't think anybody is either, because, 687 00:34:17,947 --> 00:34:20,867 Speaker 2: like I say, in the Dally M voting one, you 688 00:34:20,907 --> 00:34:22,947 Speaker 2: know they make it public up until a certain round 689 00:34:22,947 --> 00:34:24,547 Speaker 2: and I can't remember which round it is, but they 690 00:34:24,587 --> 00:34:27,347 Speaker 2: make it public up until a certain round. Luke Metcalf 691 00:34:27,507 --> 00:34:30,187 Speaker 2: was leading the dally M voting for the best player 692 00:34:30,227 --> 00:34:33,427 Speaker 2: in the comp so of course it's gonna be a 693 00:34:33,547 --> 00:34:37,987 Speaker 2: massive blow when you lose him six stight away from 694 00:34:38,027 --> 00:34:39,427 Speaker 2: one back. With more of your calls after this. 695 00:34:40,867 --> 00:34:43,747 Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred 696 00:34:43,747 --> 00:34:46,787 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty weekends for It with Jason hin 697 00:34:47,027 --> 00:34:51,227 Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs. 698 00:34:51,267 --> 00:34:53,907 Speaker 2: They'd be thirteen to one to see the Warriors. New 699 00:34:53,947 --> 00:34:56,467 Speaker 2: South Wales Cupside won again yesterday thirty four to thirty 700 00:34:56,507 --> 00:35:00,747 Speaker 2: against the Bulldogs. They've played twenty one games one nineteen, 701 00:35:00,987 --> 00:35:04,187 Speaker 2: drawn one and lost one. It's an incredible record the 702 00:35:04,267 --> 00:35:06,707 Speaker 2: Warriors New South Wales cuptain. They're miles hit at the 703 00:35:06,707 --> 00:35:09,067 Speaker 2: top of the table. We'll take top seeding into the finals. 704 00:35:09,547 --> 00:35:13,667 Speaker 2: So there is another wave coming and a number of 705 00:35:13,747 --> 00:35:15,507 Speaker 2: those players have turned out in the first grade. 706 00:35:15,827 --> 00:35:18,747 Speaker 5: Hey Greg, are you paying? 707 00:35:19,227 --> 00:35:19,787 Speaker 4: All right? Greg? 708 00:35:19,827 --> 00:35:20,347 Speaker 2: All right mate? 709 00:35:21,467 --> 00:35:24,107 Speaker 7: Well it was this golden pointed or went to the Warriors. 710 00:35:23,867 --> 00:35:24,347 Speaker 16: Wasn't. 711 00:35:25,987 --> 00:35:27,547 Speaker 13: No, it was not. 712 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:29,627 Speaker 2: No, that prediction was incorrect. 713 00:35:31,387 --> 00:35:37,387 Speaker 7: There's so much to unravel in that game, from inconsistency 714 00:35:37,587 --> 00:35:47,187 Speaker 7: from the referee, two injuries, to what players do we pick, 715 00:35:48,267 --> 00:35:51,067 Speaker 7: I mean, poxample the tan, avoid things. You know, he 716 00:35:51,187 --> 00:35:56,147 Speaker 7: came up first game, played a blinder and then could 717 00:35:56,307 --> 00:35:59,147 Speaker 7: sort of like continue it. It's like some of these 718 00:35:59,227 --> 00:36:03,907 Speaker 7: players need to be blooded, and well there's no easy games, 719 00:36:03,947 --> 00:36:09,747 Speaker 7: but need to be blooded a little bit more more 720 00:36:09,827 --> 00:36:10,587 Speaker 7: hand I think. 721 00:36:11,067 --> 00:36:12,707 Speaker 2: I guess i'd say that happens to the New South 722 00:36:12,747 --> 00:36:14,547 Speaker 2: Wales Cup though I agree. I guess that's what they 723 00:36:14,587 --> 00:36:16,667 Speaker 2: say is look, play well in the you know, in 724 00:36:17,427 --> 00:36:20,467 Speaker 2: our reserve team effectively and and you'll you'll get the 725 00:36:20,547 --> 00:36:22,587 Speaker 2: call up. And so I think it had a pretty 726 00:36:22,627 --> 00:36:24,267 Speaker 2: good body of work in that New South Wales Cup 727 00:36:24,747 --> 00:36:25,227 Speaker 2: Cup side. 728 00:36:27,787 --> 00:36:31,747 Speaker 7: Yeah, but then, like Andrew Webster says, not to worry 729 00:36:31,827 --> 00:36:36,507 Speaker 7: Martin deserved as has place. Well it's not like a 730 00:36:36,587 --> 00:36:39,227 Speaker 7: bit of a strange call to drop one guy you 731 00:36:39,387 --> 00:36:42,027 Speaker 7: just brought up and bring it another up into the bowl. 732 00:36:43,187 --> 00:36:45,547 Speaker 2: Yep, No, I agree at race to my brows and 733 00:36:45,667 --> 00:36:48,107 Speaker 2: race to my brows. That was just a second start 734 00:36:48,187 --> 00:36:50,507 Speaker 2: for the mighty Martin all season. So Yeah, no, it's 735 00:36:50,507 --> 00:36:50,987 Speaker 2: a good point. 736 00:36:52,707 --> 00:36:55,067 Speaker 7: One thing I'd like to see them introduced is that 737 00:36:56,987 --> 00:36:59,947 Speaker 7: if you are involved with player goes off with the 738 00:37:00,027 --> 00:37:05,107 Speaker 7: main chia and then you actually go as well, because 739 00:37:06,427 --> 00:37:08,867 Speaker 7: you're losing a player for fifteen minutes through the actions 740 00:37:08,907 --> 00:37:15,587 Speaker 7: of another another player, and they should be disadvantaged to 741 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:19,707 Speaker 7: the same effecture as what the actions of that player are. 742 00:37:23,027 --> 00:37:26,227 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that said as well. It's also sometimes 743 00:37:26,347 --> 00:37:29,067 Speaker 2: you extrapolate that out that if you cause somebody an injury, 744 00:37:29,827 --> 00:37:31,387 Speaker 2: you should be out for as long as they are. 745 00:37:31,627 --> 00:37:34,707 Speaker 2: I know, it's you know, it's well, it's it's yeah, 746 00:37:34,707 --> 00:37:36,827 Speaker 2: but I get the I get the I get the 747 00:37:37,707 --> 00:37:39,987 Speaker 2: the on field stuff during the game. Yeah, you're right. 748 00:37:40,187 --> 00:37:42,867 Speaker 2: It's as someone said her at the top of the show. Yeah, 749 00:37:43,347 --> 00:37:45,387 Speaker 2: guy goes off for a for an Hia is off 750 00:37:45,427 --> 00:37:47,827 Speaker 2: for ten minutes, You go on reports are really your 751 00:37:47,907 --> 00:37:51,267 Speaker 2: involvement in the current game is not affected at all. 752 00:37:53,187 --> 00:38:00,107 Speaker 7: Yeah, And things like Bisher Harris pushing christ right is 753 00:38:00,187 --> 00:38:05,427 Speaker 7: exactly the same point. The ause mis Harris was much greater. 754 00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:06,707 Speaker 13: So I'm over. 755 00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:10,627 Speaker 7: But you know, those sort of halls in the heat 756 00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:13,867 Speaker 7: of the moment have affected the Warriors through a lot 757 00:38:13,907 --> 00:38:19,507 Speaker 7: of the year, the same with Jackson Ford playing well 758 00:38:19,667 --> 00:38:23,107 Speaker 7: this was last week playing the wall incorrectly and then 759 00:38:23,187 --> 00:38:26,227 Speaker 7: later in the game the opposition did executive the same thing. 760 00:38:28,227 --> 00:38:30,947 Speaker 7: But I don't I don't think we should give up 761 00:38:31,027 --> 00:38:35,307 Speaker 7: hope on it. If there a one yesterday, we'd be 762 00:38:35,427 --> 00:38:38,187 Speaker 7: talking about them in the top four, all right, So 763 00:38:38,307 --> 00:38:40,907 Speaker 7: they lost, so we're now talking about them in the 764 00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:46,227 Speaker 7: top eight. But there is still and I hate saying it, 765 00:38:46,427 --> 00:38:48,467 Speaker 7: there is still a mathematical chance. 766 00:38:49,707 --> 00:38:52,267 Speaker 2: Oh more than more than Yeah, yeah, there are only 767 00:38:52,267 --> 00:38:55,027 Speaker 2: there are only one point outside the top four. Yeah, 768 00:38:55,027 --> 00:38:57,107 Speaker 2: it's not not as though they're no, they haven't been 769 00:38:57,427 --> 00:39:00,507 Speaker 2: cut adrift. And as has been mentioned that the Panthers 770 00:39:00,587 --> 00:39:02,827 Speaker 2: run and even though they're absolutely killing it at the moment, 771 00:39:03,027 --> 00:39:04,747 Speaker 2: the Panthers have to play the other three in the 772 00:39:04,787 --> 00:39:08,387 Speaker 2: top four, So you know, that's tough. 773 00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:12,947 Speaker 7: Where we talk about the Panthers, though they had won 774 00:39:13,147 --> 00:39:15,787 Speaker 7: four on the trot, so they've gotten that experience. Even 775 00:39:15,827 --> 00:39:18,387 Speaker 7: though they've lost a lot of players, they still have 776 00:39:18,507 --> 00:39:23,547 Speaker 7: a footprint to know how to win and win a championship. 777 00:39:24,787 --> 00:39:29,147 Speaker 7: I think the Warriors still having a cop then nutted 778 00:39:29,227 --> 00:39:29,987 Speaker 7: out completely. 779 00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:36,587 Speaker 2: I agree, Greg, I agree. Hopefully they nutted out soon. 780 00:39:36,787 --> 00:39:38,827 Speaker 2: But you're right in terms of the maths of it all. 781 00:39:39,907 --> 00:39:42,587 Speaker 2: You know, we shouldn't catastrophize. And I didn't mean to 782 00:39:42,787 --> 00:39:44,987 Speaker 2: sound like I was doing that. It just doesn't feel 783 00:39:45,067 --> 00:39:47,387 Speaker 2: like they're a top four side right because of the 784 00:39:47,667 --> 00:39:49,867 Speaker 2: form slump that they're in and the better form of 785 00:39:49,947 --> 00:39:54,707 Speaker 2: those above them. But the maths would say they're one 786 00:39:54,787 --> 00:39:56,067 Speaker 2: point outside the top four. 787 00:39:56,147 --> 00:39:56,227 Speaker 13: Now. 788 00:39:56,307 --> 00:39:59,827 Speaker 2: They've lived inside the top four since April. They've only 789 00:40:00,027 --> 00:40:03,907 Speaker 2: just fallen out. Panthers have a tough running and the Warriors. 790 00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:06,987 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the Runner. They have dragons 791 00:40:07,027 --> 00:40:10,827 Speaker 2: at home, Titans away, Eels at home, see Eagles away. 792 00:40:11,227 --> 00:40:13,467 Speaker 2: Not a single side there in the top eight currently 793 00:40:15,427 --> 00:40:17,027 Speaker 2: seven to one talks he'd be back in the. 794 00:40:17,027 --> 00:40:20,347 Speaker 1: Mint when it's down to the line, you make a call. 795 00:40:20,547 --> 00:40:25,947 Speaker 1: On Weekend Sport with Jason Payne, News Talk SAB. 796 00:40:26,427 --> 00:40:28,427 Speaker 2: Four to one. After the game last night, Andrew Webster 797 00:40:28,507 --> 00:40:30,547 Speaker 2: asked how it felt to have the top four out 798 00:40:30,627 --> 00:40:31,267 Speaker 2: of their hands. 799 00:40:31,387 --> 00:40:34,387 Speaker 17: Now everyone wants to be a top fourteen. I mean, 800 00:40:34,627 --> 00:40:36,227 Speaker 17: I mean, and then gives you a really good shot 801 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,827 Speaker 17: at the end of the season. But tonight won't define us. 802 00:40:38,987 --> 00:40:40,667 Speaker 17: You know, we've got we've got a lot of football 803 00:40:40,707 --> 00:40:42,147 Speaker 17: to play at the back end of this year, and 804 00:40:43,347 --> 00:40:44,947 Speaker 17: you know, we're going to get back to playing our 805 00:40:45,027 --> 00:40:46,827 Speaker 17: best football and the rest of it will take care 806 00:40:46,867 --> 00:40:50,707 Speaker 17: of itself. And yeah, we're confident we can do it together. 807 00:40:50,827 --> 00:40:52,387 Speaker 17: We've got a good group in there that believe in 808 00:40:52,427 --> 00:40:55,747 Speaker 17: each other and they support each other when no one's 809 00:40:55,747 --> 00:41:00,427 Speaker 17: happier there. We wish, we wish we'll win each week 810 00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:02,747 Speaker 17: at the moment, but there's a lot to build off 811 00:41:02,787 --> 00:41:05,107 Speaker 17: and a lot of a lot of spirit in that group, 812 00:41:05,427 --> 00:41:06,627 Speaker 17: and we'll creep. 813 00:41:07,147 --> 00:41:09,387 Speaker 2: They will keep fighting, There's absolutely no doubt about that. 814 00:41:09,547 --> 00:41:13,027 Speaker 2: Dragons Next at Go Media Stadium Friday night. Thanks for 815 00:41:13,147 --> 00:41:14,867 Speaker 2: your cause on the Warriors, Mark Robinson. 816 00:41:14,987 --> 00:41:19,427 Speaker 1: After one's the only place to discuss the biggest sports 817 00:41:19,507 --> 00:41:23,747 Speaker 1: issues on and afterfield. It's all on Winter and Spard 818 00:41:23,867 --> 00:41:26,947 Speaker 1: with Jason Vane on your home of Sport. 819 00:41:29,907 --> 00:41:33,187 Speaker 2: One seven. Welcome into Weekend Sport. Welcome back to Weekend Sport. 820 00:41:33,227 --> 00:41:36,987 Speaker 2: We're till three. New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson and 821 00:41:37,187 --> 00:41:39,187 Speaker 2: just a moment wanted to talk some cricket with you 822 00:41:39,267 --> 00:41:41,067 Speaker 2: as well at some stage, maybe this hour, maybe a 823 00:41:41,107 --> 00:41:45,827 Speaker 2: bit later on. I mean, fantastic result for the black 824 00:41:45,907 --> 00:41:51,707 Speaker 2: captain Zimbabwe. But an utter demolition job, just a complete mismatch, 825 00:41:52,507 --> 00:41:57,147 Speaker 2: wasn't it. You look across the series, this two Test 826 00:41:57,267 --> 00:42:02,307 Speaker 2: series against Zimbabwe, and I mean, I know numbers only 827 00:42:02,427 --> 00:42:05,187 Speaker 2: tell some of the story, but they are in cricket, 828 00:42:05,587 --> 00:42:08,627 Speaker 2: perhaps more than a lot of sports are good indicator. 829 00:42:09,707 --> 00:42:16,227 Speaker 2: And Zimbabwe across the two Test matches lost forty wickets, 830 00:42:16,307 --> 00:42:19,147 Speaker 2: all of their wickets for five hundred and fifty six 831 00:42:19,227 --> 00:42:25,027 Speaker 2: runs across the two Tests. New Zealand lost just three 832 00:42:25,227 --> 00:42:28,387 Speaker 2: for six hundred and three in their first innings of 833 00:42:28,467 --> 00:42:32,307 Speaker 2: the second Test alone, so they scored fifty odd more 834 00:42:32,387 --> 00:42:35,667 Speaker 2: runs and one innings for the loss of just three 835 00:42:35,747 --> 00:42:41,227 Speaker 2: wickets than Zimbabwe scored across the entire series for the 836 00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:43,787 Speaker 2: loss of all forty. I know, you can only play 837 00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:47,467 Speaker 2: what's in front of you, and I guess if you 838 00:42:47,587 --> 00:42:50,067 Speaker 2: go back in time, there were times in the deep 839 00:42:50,147 --> 00:42:53,147 Speaker 2: dark pass where teams probably thought the same about us. 840 00:42:54,507 --> 00:42:56,227 Speaker 2: And look, you have to give it to the likes 841 00:42:56,227 --> 00:42:59,107 Speaker 2: of Matt Henry and Zach Folks on Test debuu and 842 00:42:59,947 --> 00:43:02,867 Speaker 2: the guys who got big one fifties in that second 843 00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:07,107 Speaker 2: Test were Indra and Nichols Conway. I don't know, are 844 00:43:07,147 --> 00:43:10,387 Speaker 2: those stats diluted or actually is it the other way around? 845 00:43:10,467 --> 00:43:14,987 Speaker 2: That we're building some depth now without guys there who 846 00:43:15,867 --> 00:43:17,867 Speaker 2: may well benefit from the experience. I want to talk 847 00:43:17,867 --> 00:43:19,907 Speaker 2: a bit of this with you. We'll find a place 848 00:43:19,987 --> 00:43:23,427 Speaker 2: for that before the show ends. James mcconey this hour 849 00:43:23,467 --> 00:43:26,267 Speaker 2: as well as usual on a Sunday, just updating you 850 00:43:26,347 --> 00:43:28,427 Speaker 2: on Live Sport before we get to Mark Robinson. An 851 00:43:28,467 --> 00:43:32,747 Speaker 2: absolutely demolition demolition job happening in the rugby at Pokacoe 852 00:43:33,747 --> 00:43:37,267 Speaker 2: in around one of the Fara Palmer Cup. The County's 853 00:43:37,307 --> 00:43:40,787 Speaker 2: manor Cow Heat are putting the heat on the Bay 854 00:43:40,827 --> 00:43:45,027 Speaker 2: of Plenty Volcanics. They are eighty one nil ahead in 855 00:43:45,107 --> 00:43:48,467 Speaker 2: the final minute eighty one nil. They lead. The other 856 00:43:48,587 --> 00:43:51,347 Speaker 2: game in the far A Parma Cup this afternoon at 857 00:43:51,427 --> 00:43:54,227 Speaker 2: Rugby Park in christ Church has just kicked off nil 858 00:43:54,227 --> 00:43:56,467 Speaker 2: all there, but later on actually about an hour or 859 00:43:56,507 --> 00:43:59,187 Speaker 2: so otago up against North Harbor that one in Dunedin. 860 00:43:59,307 --> 00:44:01,747 Speaker 2: So we'll keep eyes on that. And as far as 861 00:44:01,867 --> 00:44:04,707 Speaker 2: the Mighty tend Cup, that's not called that anymore. The 862 00:44:04,747 --> 00:44:08,587 Speaker 2: Bunning's in PC goodness met is concerned. Five past two 863 00:44:08,667 --> 00:44:11,587 Speaker 2: this afternoon, the second game at Pookakowe as County's manic 864 00:44:11,627 --> 00:44:14,227 Speaker 2: up against Bay of Plenty and the men Otago Hawks 865 00:44:14,267 --> 00:44:16,387 Speaker 2: Bay and Dneda and under the roof around four thirty 866 00:44:16,427 --> 00:44:20,827 Speaker 2: five this afternoon. Great to get the chance to welcome 867 00:44:20,867 --> 00:44:24,027 Speaker 2: in New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, as we do 868 00:44:24,387 --> 00:44:28,187 Speaker 2: on a fairly regular basis, to chat through a number 869 00:44:28,227 --> 00:44:30,227 Speaker 2: of rugby issues. Mark, Thanks for your time as always 870 00:44:30,267 --> 00:44:32,187 Speaker 2: on z B. Big story this week, of course, was 871 00:44:32,227 --> 00:44:35,547 Speaker 2: the return to New Zealand of Richie Moore Ulna. He 872 00:44:35,747 --> 00:44:38,947 Speaker 2: is back next year. He'll be here until the back 873 00:44:39,067 --> 00:44:41,627 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty seven, including the Rugby World Cup. 874 00:44:41,947 --> 00:44:45,667 Speaker 2: Are you happy with the outcome that has been achieved here? 875 00:44:46,707 --> 00:44:48,067 Speaker 13: Yeah, we are obviously. 876 00:44:48,147 --> 00:44:51,507 Speaker 18: I mean, Richie's a proven talent, you know, across many 877 00:44:51,507 --> 00:44:53,387 Speaker 18: of the highest stages in the game, and he's been 878 00:44:53,427 --> 00:44:56,787 Speaker 18: a great servant to New Zealand rugby you know, we know, 879 00:44:57,027 --> 00:44:59,707 Speaker 18: offer a lot to the environments coming back to New 880 00:44:59,787 --> 00:45:01,467 Speaker 18: Zealand and we're looking forward to welcoming him home. 881 00:45:02,427 --> 00:45:05,187 Speaker 2: Was there any thought given to him being eligible to 882 00:45:05,267 --> 00:45:08,907 Speaker 2: play for the All Blacks earlier than October of next year. 883 00:45:10,467 --> 00:45:12,507 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I won't get into too many details 884 00:45:12,547 --> 00:45:15,387 Speaker 18: around how the you know we reached our agreements, Piney, 885 00:45:15,467 --> 00:45:20,027 Speaker 18: but clearly we were open to Richie signing for a 886 00:45:20,067 --> 00:45:22,827 Speaker 18: little bit longer, and had that happened, we would have 887 00:45:22,907 --> 00:45:26,387 Speaker 18: been able to, under the policy we have have them 888 00:45:26,867 --> 00:45:28,347 Speaker 18: be eligible for the All Blacks earlier. 889 00:45:28,947 --> 00:45:31,347 Speaker 13: But look, this is this is Richie's decision. We fully 890 00:45:31,427 --> 00:45:31,867 Speaker 13: respect it. 891 00:45:32,747 --> 00:45:35,027 Speaker 18: We're pleased to having him, have him coming home, as 892 00:45:35,067 --> 00:45:38,627 Speaker 18: I said, and ultimately I think he's here. You know, 893 00:45:38,707 --> 00:45:40,387 Speaker 18: he just wants to keep some options open at the moment, 894 00:45:40,387 --> 00:45:41,107 Speaker 18: and we understand that. 895 00:45:41,427 --> 00:45:44,227 Speaker 2: Are you happy with the eligibility rules as they currently stand? 896 00:45:44,267 --> 00:45:46,307 Speaker 2: I know that they're examined all the time. People always 897 00:45:46,347 --> 00:45:47,987 Speaker 2: have their say about them. Are you happy with with 898 00:45:48,107 --> 00:45:51,507 Speaker 2: where they are? And do you continue to examine them 899 00:45:51,547 --> 00:45:52,907 Speaker 2: on a sort of a case by case. 900 00:45:52,787 --> 00:45:57,827 Speaker 18: Basis interesting Yeah, absolutely, we're very comfortable with where the 901 00:45:57,947 --> 00:46:01,427 Speaker 18: policy sits. I think if you look across you know, 902 00:46:01,547 --> 00:46:04,307 Speaker 18: the last five or six years, Piney, you know, the 903 00:46:04,467 --> 00:46:08,507 Speaker 18: vast percentage of amount of talent we want to retain 904 00:46:08,547 --> 00:46:10,547 Speaker 18: in the country we have, and then we've been able 905 00:46:10,587 --> 00:46:15,587 Speaker 18: to provide some flexibility to those long serving athletes that 906 00:46:15,987 --> 00:46:17,867 Speaker 18: you know, we believe have earned the right to have 907 00:46:17,907 --> 00:46:21,867 Speaker 18: those sabbatical arrangements in their contracts and we do treat 908 00:46:21,907 --> 00:46:23,747 Speaker 18: those on a case by case basis, but we've got 909 00:46:23,787 --> 00:46:26,507 Speaker 18: a good sense of what that criteria looks like obviously 910 00:46:26,547 --> 00:46:28,547 Speaker 18: to make those decisions and feel like we've been really 911 00:46:28,627 --> 00:46:29,307 Speaker 18: consistent with those. 912 00:46:29,947 --> 00:46:32,027 Speaker 2: So if we look at the specific example of Richie, 913 00:46:32,627 --> 00:46:35,187 Speaker 2: he will spend three years in Japan, come back to 914 00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:38,027 Speaker 2: New Zealand, play NPC in one Super campaign, go to 915 00:46:38,107 --> 00:46:40,147 Speaker 2: a World Cup and then could go back to Japan. 916 00:46:41,147 --> 00:46:43,747 Speaker 2: How does that reward the commitment that others have made 917 00:46:43,827 --> 00:46:46,307 Speaker 2: to be here for the full World Cup cycle. 918 00:46:47,747 --> 00:46:51,027 Speaker 13: Well, like I said, to the distinction there is that 919 00:46:51,187 --> 00:46:52,907 Speaker 13: he will have to come back and. 920 00:46:55,267 --> 00:47:00,227 Speaker 18: Be eligible for domestic rugby before consideration of being selected 921 00:47:00,267 --> 00:47:02,667 Speaker 18: in the All Blacks whereas others who have signaled long 922 00:47:02,747 --> 00:47:03,987 Speaker 18: term commitments. 923 00:47:04,907 --> 00:47:07,347 Speaker 13: Have that right to come back into the All Blacks 924 00:47:07,427 --> 00:47:08,267 Speaker 13: environment immediately. 925 00:47:08,307 --> 00:47:12,107 Speaker 18: If you look at Jordie this year, that's a classic 926 00:47:12,147 --> 00:47:14,387 Speaker 18: example of that, and others in more recent times obviously 927 00:47:14,427 --> 00:47:14,747 Speaker 18: as well. 928 00:47:14,907 --> 00:47:16,467 Speaker 13: So that is the clear difference here. 929 00:47:17,107 --> 00:47:20,947 Speaker 2: I'm sure Scott Robertson would have wanted Richie earlier. Is 930 00:47:20,987 --> 00:47:23,587 Speaker 2: he happy? Is he comfortable with the arrangement that's been 931 00:47:24,067 --> 00:47:25,987 Speaker 2: reached here about. 932 00:47:25,387 --> 00:47:29,747 Speaker 18: Him, Yeah, obviously, I mean Raser is close to the 933 00:47:29,867 --> 00:47:33,467 Speaker 18: work we're doing and negotiating with Richie and is obviously 934 00:47:34,667 --> 00:47:36,907 Speaker 18: very pleased to have him back and hand. She fully understands. 935 00:47:36,947 --> 00:47:38,747 Speaker 18: I think, you know, at the start of the years, 936 00:47:38,867 --> 00:47:41,587 Speaker 18: reflecting after twelve months in the job, probably had great 937 00:47:41,667 --> 00:47:44,107 Speaker 18: far greater insight as to the tools and the flexibility 938 00:47:44,107 --> 00:47:48,547 Speaker 18: we've got within the eligibility policy, and is very supportive 939 00:47:48,547 --> 00:47:48,667 Speaker 18: of it. 940 00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:49,147 Speaker 13: At the moment. 941 00:47:49,187 --> 00:47:51,467 Speaker 18: And I think, you know, when we look at Leicester, 942 00:47:51,707 --> 00:47:55,027 Speaker 18: Fayonnuku coming back Richie obviously, and then we've got some 943 00:47:55,147 --> 00:47:59,547 Speaker 18: more announcements in coming weeks and months Piney that were 944 00:47:59,587 --> 00:48:02,547 Speaker 18: really really pleased about, you know, leading more out to 945 00:48:02,667 --> 00:48:04,347 Speaker 18: we're looking to twenty eight and twenty nine with a 946 00:48:04,347 --> 00:48:06,267 Speaker 18: lot of the players now and I think that's common 947 00:48:06,627 --> 00:48:09,187 Speaker 18: of the quality of the environments that were we've got 948 00:48:10,467 --> 00:48:12,947 Speaker 18: established here in New Zealand. And I think when we 949 00:48:12,987 --> 00:48:14,867 Speaker 18: look at the calendars, you and I have spoken many 950 00:48:14,907 --> 00:48:16,387 Speaker 18: times on this. When you look at the quality of 951 00:48:16,387 --> 00:48:19,947 Speaker 18: the calendar the next five years, all Black South Africa 952 00:48:20,027 --> 00:48:25,387 Speaker 18: tours next year, the Nation's Cup starting next year, two 953 00:48:25,507 --> 00:48:28,907 Speaker 18: lines tours, you know me Men's and Women's. 954 00:48:29,147 --> 00:48:31,467 Speaker 13: And a World Cup. I think that's got people hugely 955 00:48:31,467 --> 00:48:33,187 Speaker 13: excited about the next four to five years. 956 00:48:33,107 --> 00:48:35,307 Speaker 2: And will it's some look at next year's calendar. I 957 00:48:35,427 --> 00:48:37,867 Speaker 2: don't think it's been finalized, has it? You mentioned though, 958 00:48:38,187 --> 00:48:40,747 Speaker 2: start of the Nation's Cup, the longer format All Blacks 959 00:48:40,787 --> 00:48:43,187 Speaker 2: Tour of South Africa. When are we likely to see 960 00:48:43,347 --> 00:48:45,267 Speaker 2: a final life schedule for twenty twenty. 961 00:48:45,107 --> 00:48:48,267 Speaker 18: Six, hopefully in the next couple of months, Piny. We 962 00:48:48,547 --> 00:48:52,987 Speaker 18: had some really productive meetings in Sydney last week. A 963 00:48:53,107 --> 00:48:56,787 Speaker 18: number of countries came into Sydney, obviously the last week 964 00:48:56,787 --> 00:48:59,587 Speaker 18: of the Lions. Six Nations and Sanze were both here, 965 00:48:59,587 --> 00:49:06,667 Speaker 18: along with World Rugby and certainly Nations Cup. Yeah, South 966 00:49:06,667 --> 00:49:11,787 Speaker 18: Africa All Blacks concept and the work on the lines 967 00:49:11,827 --> 00:49:13,987 Speaker 18: too has all got a really major push forward, and 968 00:49:13,987 --> 00:49:16,067 Speaker 18: we're feeling really confident now that we can come out 969 00:49:16,147 --> 00:49:19,747 Speaker 18: soon hopefully and share more information more formally about those. 970 00:49:19,667 --> 00:49:21,347 Speaker 2: All Right, So that's South African Tour. I mean there's 971 00:49:21,507 --> 00:49:24,787 Speaker 2: huge anticipation about that. What are we talking here, Robert? 972 00:49:24,867 --> 00:49:27,427 Speaker 2: Is it like six to eight weeks away for these guys? 973 00:49:27,547 --> 00:49:30,067 Speaker 2: Is it three tests and some other games against teams 974 00:49:30,107 --> 00:49:31,587 Speaker 2: over there? Is that kind of what we're looking at. 975 00:49:32,667 --> 00:49:34,667 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I don't want to you know, we 976 00:49:34,787 --> 00:49:36,987 Speaker 18: will reserve you know, the opportunity to talk about it 977 00:49:37,147 --> 00:49:38,747 Speaker 18: more in coming weeks, as we say, but. 978 00:49:40,147 --> 00:49:41,907 Speaker 13: It is definitely an old school tour. 979 00:49:42,027 --> 00:49:45,227 Speaker 18: There will be the traditional midweek games about the strong 980 00:49:45,387 --> 00:49:49,107 Speaker 18: against the strongest South African provincial teams, and then obviously 981 00:49:49,587 --> 00:49:52,147 Speaker 18: a significant test component as well. So it will run 982 00:49:52,227 --> 00:49:55,947 Speaker 18: over six to seven weeks from sort of you know, 983 00:49:56,067 --> 00:49:56,947 Speaker 18: early to middle August. 984 00:49:58,027 --> 00:50:00,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that, Lions. You were in Australia, 985 00:50:00,867 --> 00:50:03,067 Speaker 2: as you say, when the British and Irish lines were 986 00:50:03,107 --> 00:50:05,867 Speaker 2: there over the last month or so. We're on track, 987 00:50:05,947 --> 00:50:09,387 Speaker 2: are we? The men in coming in twenty twenty nine 988 00:50:09,427 --> 00:50:12,307 Speaker 2: and the inaugural women's tour here in twenty twenty seven. 989 00:50:13,587 --> 00:50:16,347 Speaker 18: Yeah, well, obviously we were getting a lot more advanced 990 00:50:16,387 --> 00:50:19,747 Speaker 18: with the women's tour because it's closer at hand, and 991 00:50:21,147 --> 00:50:23,347 Speaker 18: we're feeling really excited about that. I mean, we got 992 00:50:23,387 --> 00:50:25,907 Speaker 18: to a stage where we're starting to lock in the 993 00:50:26,667 --> 00:50:31,787 Speaker 18: schedule a lot more detail and you know, I think 994 00:50:31,827 --> 00:50:34,667 Speaker 18: people are going to be, you know, shoes excited about 995 00:50:34,667 --> 00:50:37,387 Speaker 18: what we're bringing to the country then, so we make 996 00:50:37,467 --> 00:50:40,027 Speaker 18: good progress there and need to be you know, that's 997 00:50:40,067 --> 00:50:43,187 Speaker 18: not that far away now. With the men's it was 998 00:50:43,227 --> 00:50:46,187 Speaker 18: probably an opportunity to step back. But obviously in the 999 00:50:46,267 --> 00:50:49,347 Speaker 18: last two tours the lines have introduced a JV model 1000 00:50:49,427 --> 00:50:54,387 Speaker 18: with South Africa in twenty twenty one in Australia for 1001 00:50:54,467 --> 00:50:57,387 Speaker 18: this year, so it was our first real opportunity to 1002 00:50:57,867 --> 00:51:00,187 Speaker 18: have a look at what that really entails, and. 1003 00:51:01,667 --> 00:51:04,307 Speaker 13: Look, we think that'll work really well. You know, it's 1004 00:51:04,307 --> 00:51:04,867 Speaker 13: for New Zealand. 1005 00:51:04,867 --> 00:51:07,107 Speaker 18: It might be slightly different to what was in South 1006 00:51:07,147 --> 00:51:10,907 Speaker 18: Africa and Australia because they're all different markets, but overall 1007 00:51:10,947 --> 00:51:14,667 Speaker 18: we think it's a model worth giving greater consideration too. 1008 00:51:14,707 --> 00:51:16,267 Speaker 18: So we spent a lot of time talking about that, 1009 00:51:17,027 --> 00:51:23,627 Speaker 18: and then again we looked at schedules, venues, you know, dates, 1010 00:51:24,147 --> 00:51:28,547 Speaker 18: you know, everything really as it would relate around the 1011 00:51:28,667 --> 00:51:33,187 Speaker 18: tour itself across those weeks from late late June twenty 1012 00:51:33,267 --> 00:51:35,827 Speaker 18: twenty nine through to sort of early August, and then 1013 00:51:35,907 --> 00:51:37,787 Speaker 18: talked a little bit about you know, what more can 1014 00:51:37,827 --> 00:51:39,987 Speaker 18: we be doing in the intervening years to be building 1015 00:51:40,107 --> 00:51:45,547 Speaker 18: hype and creating really real anticipation across I Guest twenty six, 1016 00:51:45,667 --> 00:51:47,947 Speaker 18: twenty seven, twenty eight as well and that wouldn't be 1017 00:51:47,987 --> 00:51:50,747 Speaker 18: any additional fixtures obviously, but there's you know a lot 1018 00:51:50,787 --> 00:51:52,707 Speaker 18: of different things we could probably be doing to build 1019 00:51:52,827 --> 00:51:54,667 Speaker 18: more anticipation for that tour as well. So it was 1020 00:51:54,947 --> 00:51:58,107 Speaker 18: a fantastic you know, I see the meetings, We had 1021 00:51:58,107 --> 00:52:02,347 Speaker 18: a whole day with them, with our appropriate team members 1022 00:52:02,387 --> 00:52:04,267 Speaker 18: and theirs, and yeah, we're feeling really good about it. 1023 00:52:04,507 --> 00:52:07,867 Speaker 2: How us the joint venture arrangement differ from how it's 1024 00:52:07,907 --> 00:52:09,227 Speaker 2: been done previously. 1025 00:52:10,267 --> 00:52:14,747 Speaker 18: Well, you essentially you take all of the different rights 1026 00:52:14,827 --> 00:52:18,707 Speaker 18: that apply to the to the tour in terms of 1027 00:52:18,987 --> 00:52:23,227 Speaker 18: you know, revenue opportunities and basically build a model that 1028 00:52:23,747 --> 00:52:26,467 Speaker 18: where where some of those are shared. Some of those 1029 00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:28,787 Speaker 18: might be kept more separate to the lines in New 1030 00:52:28,867 --> 00:52:31,827 Speaker 18: Zealand Rugby, but by and large you take a lot 1031 00:52:31,867 --> 00:52:37,227 Speaker 18: more sort of collaborative approach to building building essentially building 1032 00:52:37,227 --> 00:52:38,787 Speaker 18: as large as pie as you can piney on the 1033 00:52:38,787 --> 00:52:40,947 Speaker 18: commercial side, and then figuring out how you can share that. 1034 00:52:41,027 --> 00:52:43,347 Speaker 18: And it won't go into too much more detail than that, 1035 00:52:43,467 --> 00:52:47,987 Speaker 18: but if you take things like you know, broadcasts matched 1036 00:52:48,027 --> 00:52:54,547 Speaker 18: a merchandise and real retailing, hospitality and tours, you know, 1037 00:52:54,667 --> 00:52:57,347 Speaker 18: all of that stuff combined and figure out a way 1038 00:52:57,427 --> 00:53:00,027 Speaker 18: in which it can be shared that you know that 1039 00:53:00,187 --> 00:53:03,507 Speaker 18: we think will create a lot more benefit for both parties. 1040 00:53:04,427 --> 00:53:08,267 Speaker 2: Rugby three sixty store continue to pop up about some 1041 00:53:08,787 --> 00:53:13,067 Speaker 2: massive sums of money reportedly being offered to top players, 1042 00:53:13,147 --> 00:53:15,147 Speaker 2: not only here in New Zealand but around the world. 1043 00:53:15,827 --> 00:53:19,307 Speaker 2: How concerned are you about the threat of Rugby three sixty. 1044 00:53:21,227 --> 00:53:27,187 Speaker 18: We're obviously staying pretty close to this work, and I 1045 00:53:27,267 --> 00:53:30,907 Speaker 18: think at this stage point it's fair to say, yeah, clearly, 1046 00:53:31,107 --> 00:53:34,307 Speaker 18: the people behind it are very serious. You know, they've 1047 00:53:34,307 --> 00:53:35,987 Speaker 18: got a vision of what they are looking to achieve 1048 00:53:36,067 --> 00:53:38,667 Speaker 18: in the club game. But there's still a huge amount 1049 00:53:38,707 --> 00:53:42,307 Speaker 18: of work to be done and there's still a lot 1050 00:53:42,347 --> 00:53:46,507 Speaker 18: of information that needs to be provided and understood before 1051 00:53:47,227 --> 00:53:50,147 Speaker 18: you know, we're very clear if this can take place 1052 00:53:50,267 --> 00:53:53,987 Speaker 18: or not. But we're comfortable with that. We've got good 1053 00:53:54,027 --> 00:53:57,347 Speaker 18: insights and heavy appropriate information we need to understand at 1054 00:53:57,387 --> 00:53:57,867 Speaker 18: the moment on it. 1055 00:53:58,067 --> 00:53:59,187 Speaker 2: Do you think it will go ahead? 1056 00:54:00,827 --> 00:54:03,947 Speaker 13: I look, like I said, you know, there's it's really 1057 00:54:03,987 --> 00:54:07,067 Speaker 13: too early to say. I mean, I. 1058 00:54:08,547 --> 00:54:11,987 Speaker 18: Think there's, you know, over the cooming sort of six 1059 00:54:12,067 --> 00:54:14,547 Speaker 18: to eight weeks, some things could be clear. There's another 1060 00:54:14,627 --> 00:54:19,747 Speaker 18: set of of you know, global meetings in London around 1061 00:54:21,067 --> 00:54:23,547 Speaker 18: Rugby World Cup for the Woman's at the end of September, 1062 00:54:24,347 --> 00:54:26,067 Speaker 18: and I think there'll be another set of information made 1063 00:54:26,107 --> 00:54:29,467 Speaker 18: available then and we might have a clearer picture. But 1064 00:54:29,587 --> 00:54:31,387 Speaker 18: there's you know, there's still a lot of stuff to 1065 00:54:31,387 --> 00:54:35,147 Speaker 18: be understood before anyone could be confident that will be 1066 00:54:35,187 --> 00:54:35,627 Speaker 18: going ahead. 1067 00:54:35,787 --> 00:54:38,027 Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep eyes on that. Our Black Ferns 1068 00:54:38,147 --> 00:54:39,907 Speaker 2: on the plane next week, I think to defend their 1069 00:54:39,947 --> 00:54:42,787 Speaker 2: World Cup title in the Northern Hemisphere. How confident are 1070 00:54:42,867 --> 00:54:46,227 Speaker 2: you feeling about their chances of winning a third straight 1071 00:54:46,667 --> 00:54:47,907 Speaker 2: Women's Rugby World Cup. 1072 00:54:49,467 --> 00:54:52,547 Speaker 13: Well, you know, it's firstly, it's just hugely exciting. 1073 00:54:52,627 --> 00:54:55,707 Speaker 18: It's always exciting for the country and the fans and 1074 00:54:56,147 --> 00:54:57,947 Speaker 18: certainly rugby across New Zealand to be going to a 1075 00:54:57,987 --> 00:55:01,827 Speaker 18: pinnacle event. You know, we certainly know the English and 1076 00:55:01,947 --> 00:55:05,347 Speaker 18: the team that everyone is talking about and a clear favorites. 1077 00:55:05,787 --> 00:55:09,467 Speaker 18: But we're we're reasonably comfortable with how we're tracking. We 1078 00:55:10,347 --> 00:55:14,667 Speaker 18: got some really good we're done and review at the 1079 00:55:14,747 --> 00:55:16,147 Speaker 18: end of last year. We're clearly there are a few 1080 00:55:16,187 --> 00:55:19,667 Speaker 18: results we weren't and the team and Alan weren't entirely 1081 00:55:19,707 --> 00:55:22,667 Speaker 18: comfortable with, and we think we've built into this year 1082 00:55:22,747 --> 00:55:23,227 Speaker 18: quite nicely. 1083 00:55:23,267 --> 00:55:24,267 Speaker 13: Obviously, the transition of. 1084 00:55:24,227 --> 00:55:27,187 Speaker 18: The sevens players has been a list of the environment, 1085 00:55:27,387 --> 00:55:29,707 Speaker 18: and you know, we've had pretty good preparation leading in. 1086 00:55:29,907 --> 00:55:31,907 Speaker 13: So yeah, we think we've got a great chance. 1087 00:55:32,667 --> 00:55:34,787 Speaker 18: We think we're building and improving all the time, which 1088 00:55:34,827 --> 00:55:37,427 Speaker 18: is a nice place to be going into a tournament 1089 00:55:37,547 --> 00:55:41,187 Speaker 18: like this. I don't think our form is at all plateaued. 1090 00:55:41,427 --> 00:55:44,027 Speaker 18: We're still sort of getting better week on week. So look, 1091 00:55:44,067 --> 00:55:45,907 Speaker 18: we're looking forward to it. You know, we hopefully we 1092 00:55:45,947 --> 00:55:48,867 Speaker 18: can get into a position where we're at the business 1093 00:55:48,987 --> 00:55:51,427 Speaker 18: end of the tournament, of the playoffs, and then really. 1094 00:55:51,267 --> 00:55:52,787 Speaker 13: They are anyone's games, aren't they. 1095 00:55:52,787 --> 00:55:54,787 Speaker 18: They're very close to the margins and curb be fine 1096 00:55:54,827 --> 00:55:58,347 Speaker 18: in the men's and women's game at the moment international level, 1097 00:55:58,787 --> 00:56:00,707 Speaker 18: men's sevens and fifteen. 1098 00:56:00,827 --> 00:56:03,227 Speaker 13: So yeah, we think we've got a good shot. We're 1099 00:56:03,227 --> 00:56:03,747 Speaker 13: looking forward to it. 1100 00:56:04,467 --> 00:56:06,107 Speaker 2: How are we going with finding your replacement? 1101 00:56:07,787 --> 00:56:12,027 Speaker 13: You're asking the wrong You got the wrong person on 1102 00:56:12,067 --> 00:56:14,947 Speaker 13: the interview for that, Piney. Look, I think I think 1103 00:56:15,707 --> 00:56:19,667 Speaker 13: the boarder getting into position to be in in market 1104 00:56:19,707 --> 00:56:20,147 Speaker 13: pretty soon. 1105 00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:24,827 Speaker 2: I mean, you know again, I know you're you're right, 1106 00:56:24,907 --> 00:56:27,307 Speaker 2: you're the wrong person to ask, But what does that 1107 00:56:27,467 --> 00:56:29,547 Speaker 2: look like in terms of a handover that sort of thing, 1108 00:56:29,627 --> 00:56:32,187 Speaker 2: and a timefram like what are we today, We're sort 1109 00:56:32,187 --> 00:56:34,787 Speaker 2: of early August. Are you looking sort of in the 1110 00:56:34,827 --> 00:56:36,707 Speaker 2: next couple of months that you will have some sort 1111 00:56:36,707 --> 00:56:38,907 Speaker 2: of clarity around who it is and then be able 1112 00:56:38,947 --> 00:56:40,227 Speaker 2: to give them a decent hand of it. 1113 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,467 Speaker 13: Well, well, again, that's not for me to determine, point 1114 00:56:44,507 --> 00:56:44,987 Speaker 13: I certainly. 1115 00:56:45,067 --> 00:56:47,107 Speaker 18: What I would say is I'll do anything I possibly 1116 00:56:47,187 --> 00:56:50,907 Speaker 18: can to help with the transition and to support the 1117 00:56:50,947 --> 00:56:54,347 Speaker 18: board with with any insights or information they they want 1118 00:56:54,947 --> 00:56:58,027 Speaker 18: from me. And if it works, you know, if I'm 1119 00:56:58,067 --> 00:57:00,627 Speaker 18: still in post when when the new person's coming in, 1120 00:57:00,747 --> 00:57:04,667 Speaker 18: obviously that'll that'll work really seamlessly provide some form of handover, 1121 00:57:05,067 --> 00:57:06,667 Speaker 18: and if not, I'm very open to what that could 1122 00:57:06,707 --> 00:57:09,547 Speaker 18: look like as well. So so again you know, I'm 1123 00:57:10,027 --> 00:57:12,227 Speaker 18: here and I love the organization, I love the game 1124 00:57:12,267 --> 00:57:13,907 Speaker 18: in our country, and we do what I can to 1125 00:57:13,987 --> 00:57:14,427 Speaker 18: support that. 1126 00:57:14,547 --> 00:57:18,147 Speaker 13: But ultimately it's for you know, for the board to 1127 00:57:18,227 --> 00:57:19,707 Speaker 13: be working through at the moment, and no day are 1128 00:57:19,787 --> 00:57:20,027 Speaker 13: doing that. 1129 00:57:20,227 --> 00:57:22,827 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks for joining us. You are still 1130 00:57:22,987 --> 00:57:26,107 Speaker 2: inted our CEO, so we appreciate you joining us. As always, 1131 00:57:26,107 --> 00:57:28,387 Speaker 2: hopefully we can do it a couple more times before 1132 00:57:28,427 --> 00:57:29,347 Speaker 2: you do knock it on the head. 1133 00:57:30,107 --> 00:57:31,067 Speaker 13: I'd love to do that, Pinney. 1134 00:57:31,147 --> 00:57:34,627 Speaker 18: Thanks, thanks very much as always to Shedding and hopefully 1135 00:57:34,627 --> 00:57:36,587 Speaker 18: the listeners out there and joy us some more gratefully 1136 00:57:36,627 --> 00:57:37,587 Speaker 18: coming up in the next few weeks. 1137 00:57:37,667 --> 00:57:40,427 Speaker 2: Indeed, I'm sure we will, Thanks Mark Mark Robinson, CEO 1138 00:57:40,627 --> 00:57:42,587 Speaker 2: of New Zealand Rugby. Of course until the end of 1139 00:57:42,627 --> 00:57:45,987 Speaker 2: the year anyway, and yes there are some some exciting 1140 00:57:46,067 --> 00:57:47,987 Speaker 2: Rugby to b scene, particularly around the black Ferns. Of 1141 00:57:48,027 --> 00:57:50,267 Speaker 2: course they head off to their Rugby World Cup Georgia 1142 00:57:50,307 --> 00:57:53,307 Speaker 2: Miller incident. He's on the show after two o'clock as 1143 00:57:53,347 --> 00:57:56,587 Speaker 2: they prepare to go into battle. Range of topics covered 1144 00:57:56,627 --> 00:57:59,067 Speaker 2: off there by Mark Robinson. You can pick up on 1145 00:58:00,067 --> 00:58:01,947 Speaker 2: any of those, You're more than welcome to do so 1146 00:58:02,027 --> 00:58:03,347 Speaker 2: we can open the lines for a bit O eight 1147 00:58:03,387 --> 00:58:05,307 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We spoke a lot 1148 00:58:05,947 --> 00:58:08,827 Speaker 2: about the Richie wong A situation yesterday, but if you 1149 00:58:08,907 --> 00:58:11,747 Speaker 2: want to add your two cents, more than happy for 1150 00:58:11,827 --> 00:58:14,067 Speaker 2: you to do that. I know this divided opinion over this, 1151 00:58:15,387 --> 00:58:20,547 Speaker 2: but I like the fact that loyalty is rewarded. It 1152 00:58:20,707 --> 00:58:24,587 Speaker 2: is a free country. It's a free market. Players can 1153 00:58:24,667 --> 00:58:29,027 Speaker 2: do whatever they like. A player can decide to stay 1154 00:58:29,027 --> 00:58:31,187 Speaker 2: in New Zealand or they can decide to take up 1155 00:58:31,627 --> 00:58:34,667 Speaker 2: and offer overseas. They can do whatever they like. But 1156 00:58:34,827 --> 00:58:39,587 Speaker 2: unless you're on sabbatical, you cannot come straight back into 1157 00:58:39,627 --> 00:58:45,067 Speaker 2: the All Blacks. Leicesterifying playing for Tasman before he can 1158 00:58:45,107 --> 00:58:48,347 Speaker 2: play for the All Blacks again. He's back right, caught 1159 00:58:48,387 --> 00:58:50,587 Speaker 2: the eye with a couple of tries yesterday, but he 1160 00:58:50,667 --> 00:58:53,867 Speaker 2: can't play for the All Blacks until Indy year tour. 1161 00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:55,787 Speaker 2: I think it is rich and Wong are the same. 1162 00:58:55,987 --> 00:58:59,067 Speaker 2: He'll have to play NPC for Canterbury next year before 1163 00:58:59,107 --> 00:59:02,027 Speaker 2: he can play for the All Blacks now. The counterpoint 1164 00:59:02,067 --> 00:59:05,147 Speaker 2: to that, of course, is what is best for the 1165 00:59:05,227 --> 00:59:09,747 Speaker 2: All Blacks? Should that be elevated in importance. Would it 1166 00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:11,907 Speaker 2: be better for the All Blacks chances of winning the 1167 00:59:11,947 --> 00:59:15,107 Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup in twenty twenty seven if Richie Mouonger 1168 00:59:15,147 --> 00:59:17,187 Speaker 2: could join the All Blacks in South Africa next year 1169 00:59:17,787 --> 00:59:20,507 Speaker 2: for that six to eight week tour and be integrated 1170 00:59:20,587 --> 00:59:23,907 Speaker 2: back in as soon as possible. Would that improve the 1171 00:59:23,947 --> 00:59:26,347 Speaker 2: All Blacks chances of winning the Rugby World Cup the 1172 00:59:26,347 --> 00:59:30,667 Speaker 2: following year? The answer is probably yes, the sooner the better. 1173 00:59:31,107 --> 00:59:33,867 Speaker 2: I'm sure Razor feels that way. The sooner the better. 1174 00:59:34,667 --> 00:59:36,947 Speaker 2: But as we spoke about yesterday, there's a balance to 1175 00:59:37,027 --> 00:59:41,107 Speaker 2: be struck here between success at all costs and the 1176 00:59:41,187 --> 00:59:45,107 Speaker 2: wider discussion around contracting and loyalty, and to be honest, 1177 00:59:45,147 --> 00:59:48,347 Speaker 2: the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive. The 1178 00:59:48,427 --> 00:59:51,307 Speaker 2: All Blacks can still win the World Cup and Richie 1179 00:59:51,347 --> 00:59:53,387 Speaker 2: mo Wonger can still play a significant role in it, 1180 00:59:53,467 --> 00:59:55,267 Speaker 2: even if he doesn't rejoin the team until locked over 1181 00:59:55,347 --> 00:59:58,667 Speaker 2: next year. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty to 1182 00:59:58,747 --> 01:00:01,267 Speaker 2: kick around some rugby topics, got some cricket to talk 1183 01:00:01,307 --> 01:00:04,387 Speaker 2: as well. James mcconi before too. It's one twenty six. 1184 01:00:04,467 --> 01:00:07,707 Speaker 2: We're back in a moment y more than just a game. 1185 01:00:08,067 --> 01:00:11,867 Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Hine and g J. Garnomes, 1186 01:00:12,107 --> 01:00:14,547 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks. 1187 01:00:14,547 --> 01:00:17,107 Speaker 2: The b News Talks will be one twenty eight months, 1188 01:00:17,147 --> 01:00:19,507 Speaker 2: says I love that strategy. Show loyalty to us and 1189 01:00:19,587 --> 01:00:20,827 Speaker 2: we'll let you play for us faster. 1190 01:00:21,027 --> 01:00:21,187 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1191 01:00:21,227 --> 01:00:23,747 Speaker 2: I think that's it, isn't it, Muss? You know sabbaticals 1192 01:00:23,747 --> 01:00:26,827 Speaker 2: are different. Jeordy Barrett sabbatical, but came straight back in. 1193 01:00:26,987 --> 01:00:30,747 Speaker 2: Ardie Savvier sabbatical, came straight back in. You're still contracted 1194 01:00:30,787 --> 01:00:32,907 Speaker 2: and have shown a commitment over a long period to 1195 01:00:32,947 --> 01:00:35,827 Speaker 2: the All Blacks. Difference with the likes of Richard Warnger, 1196 01:00:35,867 --> 01:00:39,347 Speaker 2: Lestifying and Nikols Shanafrazel those sorts of players is that 1197 01:00:39,467 --> 01:00:42,267 Speaker 2: they've gone away. They've they're not under contract with New 1198 01:00:42,347 --> 01:00:45,907 Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby. They've gone away, picked up a contract elsewhere 1199 01:00:46,027 --> 01:00:49,507 Speaker 2: and now have come back, as is their right. I've 1200 01:00:49,547 --> 01:00:51,667 Speaker 2: come back and said, yeah, I'm interested in chatting to 1201 01:00:51,707 --> 01:00:53,947 Speaker 2: you again about a contract. Look, Jerome Kinall did it 1202 01:00:54,827 --> 01:00:59,787 Speaker 2: after twenty eleven, went away a couple of years in Japan, 1203 01:01:00,227 --> 01:01:06,867 Speaker 2: came back and picked up again and was Magne magnificent 1204 01:01:06,987 --> 01:01:09,507 Speaker 2: for us, so much so that I'm not too sure. 1205 01:01:10,227 --> 01:01:13,707 Speaker 2: I'm not too sure we've ever found an adequate replacement 1206 01:01:13,827 --> 01:01:14,147 Speaker 2: for him. 1207 01:01:14,267 --> 01:01:19,947 Speaker 4: Hello, philp okay, finy, very good mate, excellent. 1208 01:01:20,787 --> 01:01:22,827 Speaker 19: You know I quick running on the Warriors as well. 1209 01:01:24,787 --> 01:01:27,627 Speaker 2: Let's do let's do let's do that first. What did 1210 01:01:27,667 --> 01:01:28,147 Speaker 2: you make of it. 1211 01:01:30,067 --> 01:01:32,107 Speaker 19: Or didn't look good? I was going to say, Poney, 1212 01:01:32,147 --> 01:01:33,987 Speaker 19: I watched the game last night. The whole thing in 1213 01:01:34,067 --> 01:01:37,627 Speaker 19: the pouring rain, monsoon weather. But and I didn't. I 1214 01:01:37,747 --> 01:01:39,787 Speaker 19: tried to get through earlier on but I didn't make it. 1215 01:01:39,907 --> 01:01:42,587 Speaker 19: But I don't want to be missedter negative, you know, 1216 01:01:42,827 --> 01:01:45,307 Speaker 19: like kind of thing, because I hope they will get through. 1217 01:01:45,387 --> 01:01:48,187 Speaker 19: But I started thinking yesterday because I tried to get 1218 01:01:48,187 --> 01:01:52,947 Speaker 19: through yesterday too. I started thinking yesterday, and then after 1219 01:01:53,027 --> 01:01:55,707 Speaker 19: that game, like you, I started thinking, jeez, I wanted 1220 01:01:55,707 --> 01:01:57,507 Speaker 19: to they're going to even make the top eight now 1221 01:01:57,707 --> 01:02:00,267 Speaker 19: sort of they're on the slide, even with all their injuries. 1222 01:02:00,347 --> 01:02:03,107 Speaker 19: You know, when you sort of you think of their 1223 01:02:03,187 --> 01:02:06,867 Speaker 19: wins that they've had and they weren't that they weren't vincing, 1224 01:02:06,947 --> 01:02:09,267 Speaker 19: you know, they haven't been convincing wins in those last 1225 01:02:09,307 --> 01:02:11,267 Speaker 19: six or seven games. And the way they lost to 1226 01:02:11,347 --> 01:02:13,707 Speaker 19: the Dolphins. I watched that game too, and I thought 1227 01:02:14,427 --> 01:02:16,467 Speaker 19: at the end, with less than a minute ago, and 1228 01:02:16,547 --> 01:02:18,587 Speaker 19: the way they stood off the players and just let 1229 01:02:18,707 --> 01:02:21,347 Speaker 19: those Dolphin players fine go one way, go the next 1230 01:02:21,387 --> 01:02:22,867 Speaker 19: way until they finally got through. 1231 01:02:23,227 --> 01:02:23,627 Speaker 13: I thought. 1232 01:02:24,187 --> 01:02:26,987 Speaker 19: I was thinking before the game was over and that 1233 01:02:27,107 --> 01:02:28,867 Speaker 19: last minute, they're going to lose this because they're not 1234 01:02:28,907 --> 01:02:30,467 Speaker 19: getting up on them, you know, at least trying to 1235 01:02:30,467 --> 01:02:33,987 Speaker 19: shut them down and put pressure on them. But yeah, 1236 01:02:34,027 --> 01:02:39,707 Speaker 19: I last night, they they made they made a few mistakes, 1237 01:02:39,787 --> 01:02:44,227 Speaker 19: even even Roger made a couple of mistakes, and they 1238 01:02:44,387 --> 01:02:46,147 Speaker 19: just didn't seem to be able to find a way 1239 01:02:46,227 --> 01:02:49,787 Speaker 19: to break through the Bulldogs, which were in credit to 1240 01:02:49,827 --> 01:02:57,187 Speaker 19: their defense, but also they you know, the Bulldogs playing 1241 01:02:57,267 --> 01:02:59,627 Speaker 19: in the same conditions, but they didn't make the mistakes 1242 01:02:59,667 --> 01:03:02,507 Speaker 19: and they saw through the ball. And we worry about 1243 01:03:02,587 --> 01:03:04,547 Speaker 19: the right hand side and that sort of thing, but 1244 01:03:04,667 --> 01:03:07,547 Speaker 19: last night the Bulldogs found side the left hand and 1245 01:03:07,667 --> 01:03:09,667 Speaker 19: the right hand side and the way to score tries. 1246 01:03:09,787 --> 01:03:14,347 Speaker 19: So ah, yeah, yeah, Like I say, I hope they 1247 01:03:14,707 --> 01:03:16,307 Speaker 19: get there, and I want to see them do it, 1248 01:03:16,467 --> 01:03:18,587 Speaker 19: but I'm a bit, I'm a bit concerned. 1249 01:03:19,107 --> 01:03:21,267 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, well I don't think there are only 1250 01:03:21,307 --> 01:03:24,907 Speaker 2: one today. Phil. It's been sort of furrowing our brows 1251 01:03:24,987 --> 01:03:27,307 Speaker 2: for the last month or so, this this little slump 1252 01:03:27,387 --> 01:03:31,347 Speaker 2: that they find themselves in. I'm like you, I'm I 1253 01:03:31,627 --> 01:03:34,307 Speaker 2: know you'll you'll pick yourself up and be ready to 1254 01:03:34,347 --> 01:03:37,547 Speaker 2: support them again on Friday when the when the dragons 1255 01:03:37,627 --> 01:03:40,787 Speaker 2: come calling. But yeah, it's just it's just a little 1256 01:03:40,787 --> 01:03:44,267 Speaker 2: bit negley at the moment. As they negotiate the back 1257 01:03:44,347 --> 01:03:44,907 Speaker 2: end of the season. 1258 01:03:46,107 --> 01:03:48,467 Speaker 19: Yeah, because that That's the other thing. Funny thing is 1259 01:03:48,907 --> 01:03:50,827 Speaker 19: I've been watching the l for years and years and 1260 01:03:50,947 --> 01:03:52,907 Speaker 19: years and way back in the in the day and 1261 01:03:52,947 --> 01:03:56,587 Speaker 19: the Dragons and my team actually you know that I followed, 1262 01:03:56,627 --> 01:03:58,267 Speaker 19: But like I say, always, I want to see the 1263 01:03:58,347 --> 01:04:01,147 Speaker 19: Warriors do well because of the key, we think. But yeah, 1264 01:04:01,187 --> 01:04:03,507 Speaker 19: that's the thing too, the running you know that they've 1265 01:04:03,547 --> 01:04:07,787 Speaker 19: got now, I mean, the Dragon won't be easy, and 1266 01:04:07,907 --> 01:04:09,867 Speaker 19: they've got to play the Sea Eagles and I'll be 1267 01:04:10,067 --> 01:04:12,827 Speaker 19: top and we know the history of the Titans that 1268 01:04:12,907 --> 01:04:15,507 Speaker 19: seem to be their bogey team. And the only thing 1269 01:04:15,627 --> 01:04:17,347 Speaker 19: that I'm not sure about is how the Eels are 1270 01:04:17,427 --> 01:04:19,267 Speaker 19: going and what sort of chance they'll get there. But 1271 01:04:20,787 --> 01:04:23,147 Speaker 19: that's that. So I'll go on the Richard my wrong. 1272 01:04:23,187 --> 01:04:27,627 Speaker 19: I think, yeah, I think it's good. I like what 1273 01:04:27,787 --> 01:04:30,107 Speaker 19: Mode says you and you said about show a bit 1274 01:04:30,147 --> 01:04:33,227 Speaker 19: of loyalty you know, and will reward you. But I'm 1275 01:04:33,267 --> 01:04:36,867 Speaker 19: also in two minds because I'm thinking as well that, well, 1276 01:04:37,827 --> 01:04:40,107 Speaker 19: do you do what's best for the team and the 1277 01:04:40,267 --> 01:04:43,907 Speaker 19: chances of it winning, you know, So yeah, I'm in 1278 01:04:43,987 --> 01:04:47,027 Speaker 19: two minds about something. I think there needs to be 1279 01:04:48,427 --> 01:04:53,427 Speaker 19: a bit of a reward for loyalty showing. But then, 1280 01:04:53,547 --> 01:04:55,707 Speaker 19: like I say, at the end of the day, if 1281 01:04:55,787 --> 01:05:00,387 Speaker 19: you want to win, you put in your best everything 1282 01:05:00,427 --> 01:05:01,107 Speaker 19: you've got, don't you. 1283 01:05:01,227 --> 01:05:01,387 Speaker 13: You know? 1284 01:05:02,067 --> 01:05:03,907 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't think, like I said before, Phil, 1285 01:05:03,947 --> 01:05:05,787 Speaker 2: I don't think the two things are mutual league exclusive 1286 01:05:05,827 --> 01:05:08,187 Speaker 2: as long as I haven't got any first fives. And 1287 01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:12,187 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm sure Razor would have His starting position 1288 01:05:12,267 --> 01:05:15,027 Speaker 2: would have been get Richie back and get him, get 1289 01:05:15,107 --> 01:05:16,627 Speaker 2: him in as soon as possible. That would have been 1290 01:05:16,667 --> 01:05:19,987 Speaker 2: his starting position. And I'm sure he's just had to 1291 01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:22,867 Speaker 2: compromise from there because he's made no secret of the 1292 01:05:22,907 --> 01:05:25,347 Speaker 2: fact that he wants Richie Wonger back, that that hasn't 1293 01:05:25,387 --> 01:05:29,787 Speaker 2: been at issue at all. But I think, and I 1294 01:05:29,867 --> 01:05:32,107 Speaker 2: heard Mark Robinson soon another interview during the week that 1295 01:05:32,387 --> 01:05:36,307 Speaker 2: that he Scott Robinson is quite comfortable with the decision 1296 01:05:36,347 --> 01:05:39,467 Speaker 2: that's been made, uh, you know, and and and Richie 1297 01:05:39,547 --> 01:05:42,867 Speaker 2: is available in October of next year, and he's accepted 1298 01:05:42,907 --> 01:05:45,627 Speaker 2: that as he has to, because it's his bosses giving 1299 01:05:45,707 --> 01:05:49,587 Speaker 2: him a directive. And he'll he'll he'll box on and 1300 01:05:49,747 --> 01:05:51,707 Speaker 2: like I say, it's not not too bad when you've 1301 01:05:51,707 --> 01:05:55,707 Speaker 2: got Boden Barrett, Damien McKenzie, Ruben Love as your other options. 1302 01:05:56,947 --> 01:05:58,707 Speaker 19: Yeah, well that's was that. That's the other thing I 1303 01:05:58,787 --> 01:06:00,507 Speaker 19: was going to say, like yesterday when I when I 1304 01:06:00,547 --> 01:06:02,307 Speaker 19: was trying to get through, and I was going to say, well, 1305 01:06:02,747 --> 01:06:04,507 Speaker 19: you're not in a bad position when you've got a 1306 01:06:04,547 --> 01:06:07,787 Speaker 19: guy like bo and bear it, you know with some 1307 01:06:08,507 --> 01:06:10,587 Speaker 19: A couple of people said, oh, he's not much of 1308 01:06:10,627 --> 01:06:12,467 Speaker 19: an halfbiged sort of thing, and I thought, come on, 1309 01:06:13,027 --> 01:06:15,267 Speaker 19: you know, and you know that he can play number 1310 01:06:15,347 --> 01:06:17,627 Speaker 19: ten and if you really need to you can slide 1311 01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:19,427 Speaker 19: him back. You know, a hell of a player also 1312 01:06:19,547 --> 01:06:22,787 Speaker 19: that can you slote him back then fall back. So yeah, 1313 01:06:23,227 --> 01:06:24,907 Speaker 19: he's not in a bed position at all. 1314 01:06:27,067 --> 01:06:29,747 Speaker 2: I think they'll be okay, Phil, I think they'll be okay. 1315 01:06:30,067 --> 01:06:32,227 Speaker 2: I'm glad Richie's coming back. I think most of us 1316 01:06:32,307 --> 01:06:35,667 Speaker 2: are terrific player well enhance our chances of winning the 1317 01:06:35,747 --> 01:06:37,987 Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup. But as we spoke about yesterday, it's 1318 01:06:37,987 --> 01:06:40,707 Speaker 2: going to be an interesting man management challenge for Scott 1319 01:06:40,787 --> 01:06:42,307 Speaker 2: Robertson as well. Good to chat to you, Phil, thanks 1320 01:06:42,347 --> 01:06:45,027 Speaker 2: for calling through mate twenty five to two. I'll just 1321 01:06:45,147 --> 01:06:46,987 Speaker 2: update you on some live sport that game. The early 1322 01:06:47,067 --> 01:06:50,107 Speaker 2: game and the Pharaoh. Palmer Cup is all over and 1323 01:06:50,667 --> 01:06:55,947 Speaker 2: was a very comfortable victory for Counties Manico over Bay 1324 01:06:55,987 --> 01:06:59,067 Speaker 2: of Plenty eighty eight nil. It finished eighty eight nil. 1325 01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:03,667 Speaker 2: They're underway at Rugby Park in christ Church where Canterbury 1326 01:07:03,707 --> 01:07:05,747 Speaker 2: are taking on Munowork two. They've had half an hour there. 1327 01:07:05,787 --> 01:07:12,267 Speaker 2: Canterby fifth Dean nil ahead. We've got NPC coming as 1328 01:07:12,307 --> 01:07:14,027 Speaker 2: well after two. If you want to catch our commentary 1329 01:07:14,027 --> 01:07:16,387 Speaker 2: of these games, gold Sport and Nightheart Radio for County's 1330 01:07:16,387 --> 01:07:19,907 Speaker 2: Manic how Bay of plenty, that's in Pookakoe five past 1331 01:07:19,907 --> 01:07:22,027 Speaker 2: two and then Otago Hawks Bay and duned him from 1332 01:07:22,427 --> 01:07:25,587 Speaker 2: four point thirty five. I just wanted to touch briefly 1333 01:07:25,627 --> 01:07:28,587 Speaker 2: on the cricket. James mcconian in the not too distant 1334 01:07:28,627 --> 01:07:31,467 Speaker 2: future we'll take some more calls if your life as 1335 01:07:31,467 --> 01:07:33,107 Speaker 2: well on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, but I 1336 01:07:33,107 --> 01:07:36,427 Speaker 2: just wanted to touch on the cricket again. Mitchell Sentner 1337 01:07:36,547 --> 01:07:38,707 Speaker 2: took over the captain c rains look. I think he 1338 01:07:38,827 --> 01:07:41,507 Speaker 2: was pretty diplomatic when asked for his overall thoughts after 1339 01:07:41,587 --> 01:07:42,467 Speaker 2: the series yesterday. 1340 01:07:42,987 --> 01:07:45,987 Speaker 14: Obviously a great game in all aspects. You know, we 1341 01:07:46,067 --> 01:07:48,947 Speaker 14: are challenge at times throughout the game, and I guess 1342 01:07:48,947 --> 01:07:51,267 Speaker 14: we've kind of got through those periods, and yeah, I 1343 01:07:51,267 --> 01:07:53,027 Speaker 14: guess we cashed in. I think the way we bowled, 1344 01:07:53,667 --> 01:07:55,867 Speaker 14: especially in the first things, there's probably a little bit there, 1345 01:07:55,907 --> 01:07:59,387 Speaker 14: but yet obviously gid Zimbabwe for one twenty their first 1346 01:07:59,427 --> 01:08:01,547 Speaker 14: things and then we could ready cash in with a bat. 1347 01:08:01,707 --> 01:08:04,987 Speaker 14: So yeah, I can't really complain about anything during this game. 1348 01:08:05,107 --> 01:08:07,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing to complain about when you have the 1349 01:08:07,227 --> 01:08:10,907 Speaker 2: biggest win in your Test history. And did I read 1350 01:08:10,987 --> 01:08:14,027 Speaker 2: yesterday the third biggest in the history of Test cricket. 1351 01:08:14,387 --> 01:08:18,227 Speaker 2: Test cricket's been played since eighteen seventy seven, and that 1352 01:08:18,427 --> 01:08:22,107 Speaker 2: is the third biggest in the nearly one hundred and 1353 01:08:22,147 --> 01:08:26,267 Speaker 2: fifty years that Test matches have been played. Massive quick 1354 01:08:26,307 --> 01:08:28,987 Speaker 2: word from Mitchell Center on Zach Folks who got nine 1355 01:08:29,027 --> 01:08:30,147 Speaker 2: wickets on Test d aboot. 1356 01:08:30,547 --> 01:08:33,107 Speaker 14: Yeah, I see we've seen, you know, Zach and some 1357 01:08:33,227 --> 01:08:34,987 Speaker 14: of the white cool stuff. And I guess here, you 1358 01:08:35,027 --> 01:08:37,227 Speaker 14: know someone who kind of swinging into the right handers. 1359 01:08:37,707 --> 01:08:40,827 Speaker 14: You don't see that often, so I guess another addition 1360 01:08:40,907 --> 01:08:42,947 Speaker 14: to our attack with the guys, you know, moving the 1361 01:08:42,987 --> 01:08:46,307 Speaker 14: ball away. So yeah, he was outstanding. You know when 1362 01:08:46,347 --> 01:08:48,427 Speaker 14: the lefties come on, he's he looks pretty pretty tough 1363 01:08:48,467 --> 01:08:50,787 Speaker 14: to play and yeah to get I guess nine in 1364 01:08:50,867 --> 01:08:52,947 Speaker 14: the game on debuts, it's pretty gooda. 1365 01:08:53,187 --> 01:08:56,227 Speaker 2: Twenty three to two. Marxis on text pinety. We're desperate 1366 01:08:56,267 --> 01:08:58,227 Speaker 2: to have Richie back for the MPC. We're only one 1367 01:08:58,267 --> 01:09:00,427 Speaker 2: two out of two so far. Yes, very good, Mark. 1368 01:09:00,747 --> 01:09:05,467 Speaker 2: You did leave it late against Auckland last night, I note, Marty, Hi, mate, 1369 01:09:06,467 --> 01:09:06,907 Speaker 2: Yeah good. 1370 01:09:07,307 --> 01:09:11,027 Speaker 20: Finally, look, I just want to mention I watched quite 1371 01:09:11,067 --> 01:09:12,547 Speaker 20: a bit of the rugby on for to night and 1372 01:09:12,587 --> 01:09:16,707 Speaker 20: there was a woman's referee and she was outstanding, mate. 1373 01:09:16,747 --> 01:09:19,867 Speaker 20: You know, I don't know her name, didn't see it, 1374 01:09:20,387 --> 01:09:23,707 Speaker 20: but yeah, she'd be a bit of referee. I've seen 1375 01:09:23,787 --> 01:09:25,827 Speaker 20: him in rugby for a long long time. And she 1376 01:09:25,987 --> 01:09:27,547 Speaker 20: let the game throw and there was a bit of 1377 01:09:27,547 --> 01:09:30,147 Speaker 20: a hardie value there on the stage and she didn't 1378 01:09:30,147 --> 01:09:32,627 Speaker 20: what a woman, good woman do is just pulled away 1379 01:09:32,667 --> 01:09:34,787 Speaker 20: of it and she put a foot down and uh, 1380 01:09:35,387 --> 01:09:37,667 Speaker 20: you know, you know to me, I was just saying 1381 01:09:37,667 --> 01:09:39,147 Speaker 20: to a friend of mine, you know when when she 1382 01:09:39,667 --> 01:09:42,907 Speaker 20: she sheild with for a high doing his matches, But 1383 01:09:43,427 --> 01:09:43,787 Speaker 20: yeah she. 1384 01:09:44,027 --> 01:09:46,427 Speaker 2: Was Now I can tell you it was Yeah, Marty, 1385 01:09:46,467 --> 01:09:49,507 Speaker 2: I can tell you it was. That was Meggie Cogger Or, Yeah, 1386 01:09:49,587 --> 01:09:52,427 Speaker 2: she's she's been Yes, he's been around for a wee while, 1387 01:09:52,467 --> 01:09:55,307 Speaker 2: but I haven't seen her do a lot of men's games. 1388 01:09:55,347 --> 01:09:58,307 Speaker 2: But she is highly regarded and I'm pleased that you 1389 01:09:58,747 --> 01:10:00,627 Speaker 2: you thought that she did a good job because I 1390 01:10:00,667 --> 01:10:03,227 Speaker 2: did too. I thought, you know, you often often when 1391 01:10:03,227 --> 01:10:05,307 Speaker 2: you don't mention the referee afterwards, you know they've had 1392 01:10:05,347 --> 01:10:05,787 Speaker 2: a good game. 1393 01:10:06,667 --> 01:10:09,307 Speaker 20: She did a flow and she just didn't she didn't 1394 01:10:09,307 --> 01:10:11,387 Speaker 20: impose herself, but she was you know, but she was 1395 01:10:11,427 --> 01:10:14,307 Speaker 20: firm and you know, and she had a real feel 1396 01:10:14,307 --> 01:10:15,667 Speaker 20: of it. And that's the thing I loved about it. 1397 01:10:15,747 --> 01:10:20,227 Speaker 2: So tape for Seymour Rover, Absolutely right, Marty. Good on you, mate, 1398 01:10:20,227 --> 01:10:22,387 Speaker 2: thanks for calling him with that. Often people are very 1399 01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:25,667 Speaker 2: quick to criticize referees, but good on you for ringing 1400 01:10:25,747 --> 01:10:29,067 Speaker 2: and to praise one. Yeah, Maggie Cogger Or taking control 1401 01:10:29,147 --> 01:10:31,467 Speaker 2: of the Northland Southland match and the Buddings MPC on 1402 01:10:32,067 --> 01:10:34,227 Speaker 2: on Friday night and doing a doing a really good 1403 01:10:34,307 --> 01:10:37,787 Speaker 2: job of it as well. I finally says Simon, not 1404 01:10:37,827 --> 01:10:41,147 Speaker 2: sure if you have acknowledged the passing of Peter Lester. 1405 01:10:41,667 --> 01:10:42,987 Speaker 2: We did at the top of the show, Simon and 1406 01:10:43,067 --> 01:10:45,107 Speaker 2: p J. Montgomery is going to join us after two 1407 01:10:45,427 --> 01:10:48,707 Speaker 2: with his recollections of working with Peter Lester. If you 1408 01:10:48,787 --> 01:10:52,587 Speaker 2: missed this, very very sad news. Peter Lester, who's been 1409 01:10:52,667 --> 01:10:58,307 Speaker 2: a fixture in the coverage of sailing but also himself 1410 01:10:58,827 --> 01:11:04,507 Speaker 2: a hugely accomplished yachtsman, has passed away. He died on 1411 01:11:04,627 --> 01:11:06,227 Speaker 2: Friday night at the age of seventy. 1412 01:11:06,907 --> 01:11:07,147 Speaker 17: P J. 1413 01:11:07,267 --> 01:11:10,747 Speaker 2: Montgomery going to pay tribute to Peter Leicester after two o'clock. 1414 01:11:10,947 --> 01:11:14,147 Speaker 2: Very very sad news. Simon, thanks for flicking three yet 1415 01:11:14,187 --> 01:11:17,067 Speaker 2: text twenty one to two. We'll take a break, come 1416 01:11:17,147 --> 01:11:19,587 Speaker 2: back with James mcconey in his regular Sunday slot. 1417 01:11:20,267 --> 01:11:23,787 Speaker 1: The biggest things in sports are on Weekend Sports with 1418 01:11:23,987 --> 01:11:28,067 Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home 1419 01:11:28,107 --> 01:11:29,427 Speaker 1: builder News Songs. 1420 01:11:29,187 --> 01:11:31,947 Speaker 2: MB coming up seventeen to two, just before we get 1421 01:11:31,987 --> 01:11:35,267 Speaker 2: James mcconey on. Just further to Marti's call on Maggie 1422 01:11:35,347 --> 01:11:37,827 Speaker 2: Coggle or one of our top referees who was in 1423 01:11:37,947 --> 01:11:41,707 Speaker 2: charge of Northland v Southland on Friday night years of course, 1424 01:11:41,787 --> 01:11:44,987 Speaker 2: also off to the Women's Rugby World Cup in the 1425 01:11:45,027 --> 01:11:47,907 Speaker 2: next month or so. And officiated at the home World 1426 01:11:47,907 --> 01:11:51,227 Speaker 2: Cup three years ago, one of our more accomplished referees. 1427 01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:53,987 Speaker 2: Great to see her in charge of the Bunnings MPC 1428 01:11:54,147 --> 01:11:58,347 Speaker 2: match up in Funurday on Friday night. Allen says, Pinty, 1429 01:11:58,387 --> 01:12:00,187 Speaker 2: do you know if the new stadium in christ Jis 1430 01:12:00,187 --> 01:12:03,867 Speaker 2: will have stables for the Crusaders horses? Allan, I don't know, 1431 01:12:04,027 --> 01:12:07,427 Speaker 2: but I'm almost certain that they'll be acommodated. I don't 1432 01:12:07,467 --> 01:12:11,307 Speaker 2: think that the horses actually live at the stadium. I 1433 01:12:11,387 --> 01:12:14,387 Speaker 2: could be wrong. James mcconi might know. Do the Crusaders 1434 01:12:14,427 --> 01:12:17,107 Speaker 2: horses live at Addington and they're not not in the 1435 01:12:17,187 --> 01:12:19,467 Speaker 2: raceway but in the in the stadium down there? 1436 01:12:19,547 --> 01:12:20,147 Speaker 1: Do you know, mate? 1437 01:12:21,307 --> 01:12:23,347 Speaker 21: I feel like they'd be brought in, wouldn't they They'd 1438 01:12:23,387 --> 01:12:25,987 Speaker 21: be brought in for the day. But it's quite handy 1439 01:12:26,067 --> 01:12:29,387 Speaker 21: having stables right there. That's that is a good question, 1440 01:12:30,107 --> 01:12:34,667 Speaker 21: A good question, really, what's happening at that stadium? Where 1441 01:12:34,667 --> 01:12:37,707 Speaker 21: are the stables? Because that's quite a built up industrial area. 1442 01:12:37,867 --> 01:12:39,467 Speaker 21: I mean, yes, from what I can tell. 1443 01:12:40,467 --> 01:12:42,387 Speaker 2: Right, Well, we'll try and do some more digging into that. 1444 01:12:42,467 --> 01:12:44,107 Speaker 2: I didn't mean to throw that your way. I wanted 1445 01:12:44,147 --> 01:12:46,907 Speaker 2: to talk about Olie Mathis though. Is he a flanker, 1446 01:12:47,147 --> 01:12:49,347 Speaker 2: is he a winger? Is there any need to decide? 1447 01:12:51,067 --> 01:12:53,867 Speaker 21: Well, it's about time we had our first hybrid, true 1448 01:12:53,947 --> 01:12:56,627 Speaker 21: hybrid come through because I feel like, you know, when 1449 01:12:56,827 --> 01:12:58,987 Speaker 21: when Jonah made the switch, that was something that was 1450 01:12:59,507 --> 01:13:03,467 Speaker 21: was permanent. When Eric Rush went to the from flank 1451 01:13:03,507 --> 01:13:06,307 Speaker 21: to the wing again, you know, he just became a winger. 1452 01:13:06,467 --> 01:13:09,267 Speaker 21: But right now we've got someone who could do either 1453 01:13:09,427 --> 01:13:12,467 Speaker 21: or there's even murmurings that he should play in midfield 1454 01:13:13,227 --> 01:13:16,227 Speaker 21: for long term. He's not the biggest human dolly, but 1455 01:13:16,387 --> 01:13:18,947 Speaker 21: he is an absolute athlete and as you saw again 1456 01:13:19,667 --> 01:13:22,947 Speaker 21: last night for the Muluse, he's just capable of special things. 1457 01:13:23,027 --> 01:13:24,467 Speaker 13: And you and I have talked about it. 1458 01:13:24,827 --> 01:13:28,987 Speaker 21: Piney Henry Pollock similar kind of skill set, unbelievable. But 1459 01:13:29,427 --> 01:13:32,187 Speaker 21: they identified it early that he's worth worthy of playing 1460 01:13:32,227 --> 01:13:35,587 Speaker 21: international footy, and I think they are they are ahead 1461 01:13:35,587 --> 01:13:37,747 Speaker 21: of the curve by making that call early for Henry 1462 01:13:37,907 --> 01:13:39,907 Speaker 21: and when are we going to do it? 1463 01:13:39,987 --> 01:13:40,307 Speaker 13: Foley? 1464 01:13:40,747 --> 01:13:43,387 Speaker 2: I just he was that try he set up or 1465 01:13:43,627 --> 01:13:45,387 Speaker 2: he was the architect of it. I know went through 1466 01:13:45,387 --> 01:13:46,987 Speaker 2: a couple of sets of hands after him, but he 1467 01:13:47,107 --> 01:13:49,587 Speaker 2: was the one who made the made the break and yeah, 1468 01:13:49,667 --> 01:13:53,347 Speaker 2: I mean it actually doesn't matter, does it what number 1469 01:13:53,387 --> 01:13:54,307 Speaker 2: he's got on his back? 1470 01:13:54,547 --> 01:13:54,827 Speaker 4: I know? 1471 01:13:54,947 --> 01:13:58,027 Speaker 2: And perhaps on defense and then the more structured parts 1472 01:13:58,027 --> 01:14:00,627 Speaker 2: of rugby it does. But in the loose it doesn't 1473 01:14:00,627 --> 01:14:01,467 Speaker 2: matter at all, does it. 1474 01:14:02,827 --> 01:14:03,547 Speaker 13: No, exactly. 1475 01:14:03,707 --> 01:14:06,187 Speaker 21: That's That's the one thing with Oli matthis is that 1476 01:14:06,747 --> 01:14:11,027 Speaker 21: right now, his athleticism, his agility really is. 1477 01:14:11,027 --> 01:14:12,627 Speaker 5: A so world class. 1478 01:14:12,787 --> 01:14:14,627 Speaker 21: I mean I would have even thought that he would 1479 01:14:14,627 --> 01:14:17,667 Speaker 21: have been worth taking a punt on last year bringing 1480 01:14:17,747 --> 01:14:20,667 Speaker 21: into the All Blacks camp, because I think sending him 1481 01:14:20,667 --> 01:14:23,587 Speaker 21: to sevens and you know, obviously you have to lose 1482 01:14:23,667 --> 01:14:25,907 Speaker 21: weight and all that sort of stuff isn't really what 1483 01:14:26,067 --> 01:14:29,147 Speaker 21: he was after. He was just after some security and 1484 01:14:30,307 --> 01:14:33,107 Speaker 21: if his talent was prodigious enough from what he did 1485 01:14:33,147 --> 01:14:36,747 Speaker 21: in the NPC last year to warrant some kind of acknowledgment. Yeah, 1486 01:14:36,747 --> 01:14:38,747 Speaker 21: I mean, I know it's a big leap frog, but 1487 01:14:38,827 --> 01:14:40,467 Speaker 21: sometimes you're going to make that call when you see 1488 01:14:40,467 --> 01:14:42,347 Speaker 21: a talent that's this rare. 1489 01:14:43,027 --> 01:14:45,987 Speaker 2: Yeah. And Dave Well, he reminds me a bit of 1490 01:14:46,027 --> 01:14:48,507 Speaker 2: Georgia Miller. Actually she's on the show next hour, so 1491 01:14:49,147 --> 01:14:51,587 Speaker 2: but they're kind of some light like she could probably 1492 01:14:51,707 --> 01:14:54,187 Speaker 2: play in a couple of positions too, couldn't she. 1493 01:14:55,627 --> 01:14:56,187 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think so. 1494 01:14:56,267 --> 01:14:58,947 Speaker 21: I mean Georgia is a really good example that they've 1495 01:14:58,947 --> 01:15:01,227 Speaker 21: got a similar skill set. She's as fast as anyone 1496 01:15:01,547 --> 01:15:03,987 Speaker 21: on that team, especially over the first thirty meters, and 1497 01:15:04,547 --> 01:15:08,107 Speaker 21: that's what in you know, fifteen a side that makes 1498 01:15:08,267 --> 01:15:11,627 Speaker 21: such a big difference. Obviously, when you're playing sevens you've 1499 01:15:11,667 --> 01:15:14,187 Speaker 21: got to go for sixty or seventy meters sometimes. But 1500 01:15:14,827 --> 01:15:17,187 Speaker 21: you know, we've seen players come through with this kind 1501 01:15:17,227 --> 01:15:19,507 Speaker 21: of Remember young Victor Vito was a bit like that, 1502 01:15:19,627 --> 01:15:21,747 Speaker 21: but he I don't know if you recall he had 1503 01:15:21,787 --> 01:15:23,627 Speaker 21: a neck injury that slowed him down a bit, and 1504 01:15:23,667 --> 01:15:27,707 Speaker 21: then he just definitely became a forward. And I mean 1505 01:15:27,747 --> 01:15:29,427 Speaker 21: we could have seen it from him. But right now 1506 01:15:30,667 --> 01:15:33,547 Speaker 21: for Oli Mathis, I mean, I'll be happy for him 1507 01:15:33,547 --> 01:15:36,907 Speaker 21: to play anywhere. But the way that we're looking at 1508 01:15:36,987 --> 01:15:39,627 Speaker 21: rugby safe for number sevens, I'm glad we've taken the 1509 01:15:40,347 --> 01:15:43,507 Speaker 21: turn where then you're not obsessed with how big they are, 1510 01:15:43,867 --> 01:15:45,747 Speaker 21: it's just how good they are. And then I'm talking 1511 01:15:45,787 --> 01:15:48,267 Speaker 21: about duplessy kid feed I think you need a real 1512 01:15:48,627 --> 01:15:51,507 Speaker 21: turnover expert in playing number seven these days. 1513 01:15:51,827 --> 01:15:53,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see what the future holds 1514 01:15:53,587 --> 01:15:56,787 Speaker 2: for that talented young man. Other matters around today to 1515 01:15:56,867 --> 01:16:00,867 Speaker 2: chat about terrible news last week that Western United, the 1516 01:16:01,267 --> 01:16:03,787 Speaker 2: A League football club who have teams in both the 1517 01:16:03,827 --> 01:16:07,707 Speaker 2: A League Men's and women's competitions, have had their A 1518 01:16:07,907 --> 01:16:10,867 Speaker 2: League licenses revoked. They've got the opportunity to appeal, but 1519 01:16:10,907 --> 01:16:13,947 Speaker 2: everything I'm reading and hearing looks as though it's going 1520 01:16:14,027 --> 01:16:18,067 Speaker 2: to be the folding of Western United. Never great when 1521 01:16:18,107 --> 01:16:20,187 Speaker 2: a sporting club has to fold. 1522 01:16:21,747 --> 01:16:24,187 Speaker 21: It's so weird that you find Piney keeping up with 1523 01:16:24,307 --> 01:16:27,147 Speaker 21: A league news. So on the one hand, they're saying 1524 01:16:27,187 --> 01:16:29,187 Speaker 21: it's it's an expansion league. We're going to see in 1525 01:16:29,227 --> 01:16:31,707 Speaker 21: the second team in Queensland, Canberra is going to get 1526 01:16:31,707 --> 01:16:33,987 Speaker 21: a team, and then meanwhile there's a club just on 1527 01:16:34,067 --> 01:16:35,947 Speaker 21: its knees, and that's a club that won the comp 1528 01:16:36,347 --> 01:16:39,347 Speaker 21: just a couple of years ago. So I think this 1529 01:16:39,507 --> 01:16:44,587 Speaker 21: is a really dangerous sign for clubs that probably can't 1530 01:16:45,027 --> 01:16:49,747 Speaker 21: retain talent and can't get fans through the turnstiles. So unfortunately, 1531 01:16:49,787 --> 01:16:51,667 Speaker 21: I'm sort of looking at the Wellington Phoenix and just 1532 01:16:51,747 --> 01:16:55,987 Speaker 21: saying they need to they need to have a really strong, 1533 01:16:56,187 --> 01:16:59,427 Speaker 21: robust plan to make sure that they can Weather. I 1534 01:16:59,467 --> 01:17:02,547 Speaker 21: guess losing their best player in Costa barbarusis who's gone. 1535 01:17:02,667 --> 01:17:04,867 Speaker 21: I know there's always going to be players there who 1536 01:17:05,027 --> 01:17:07,107 Speaker 21: lead from time to time because their dream is to 1537 01:17:07,147 --> 01:17:09,067 Speaker 21: play in Europe. But if you're a club that's just 1538 01:17:09,187 --> 01:17:12,987 Speaker 21: got you know, sort of nineteenagers and two older guys, 1539 01:17:13,467 --> 01:17:16,347 Speaker 21: it's not really it doesn't all go well. I mean, 1540 01:17:16,547 --> 01:17:18,427 Speaker 21: do you worry about the future of the Phoenix like 1541 01:17:18,547 --> 01:17:20,347 Speaker 21: I do, Pony, Not really. 1542 01:17:20,387 --> 01:17:22,147 Speaker 2: I mean probably I don't worry about them off the 1543 01:17:22,187 --> 01:17:24,707 Speaker 2: field at all, because you know, a lot of clubs 1544 01:17:24,747 --> 01:17:27,827 Speaker 2: have been through financial trials and tribulations in the last 1545 01:17:28,427 --> 01:17:30,427 Speaker 2: you know, decade and a half in the A League, 1546 01:17:30,467 --> 01:17:32,987 Speaker 2: but the Phoenix never have apart from when Terry was there, 1547 01:17:33,027 --> 01:17:36,427 Speaker 2: but they quickly you know, changed ownership. Since well Nick's 1548 01:17:36,427 --> 01:17:40,827 Speaker 2: have been there. There's never been any suggestion of financially 1549 01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:44,147 Speaker 2: them leaving. There was that, you know, they wanted to 1550 01:17:44,187 --> 01:17:46,907 Speaker 2: get David Gallup wanted to get rid of them for 1551 01:17:47,067 --> 01:17:50,507 Speaker 2: other reasons known mainly to him. That didn't happen. I 1552 01:17:50,547 --> 01:17:53,507 Speaker 2: think they'll be okay, it's yeah, it's just such a 1553 01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:56,627 Speaker 2: shame for all of the good football people at that club. 1554 01:17:57,587 --> 01:18:00,267 Speaker 2: You know, the players who now have an uncertain future. 1555 01:18:00,747 --> 01:18:03,267 Speaker 2: The fans and they didn't have a huge fan base, 1556 01:18:03,347 --> 01:18:06,027 Speaker 2: but who do they support now there's no I mean, 1557 01:18:06,027 --> 01:18:10,387 Speaker 2: it's a sorry situation all around. Really yeah. 1558 01:18:11,067 --> 01:18:13,707 Speaker 21: I mean, look, I'm not saying that the Phoenix are 1559 01:18:13,787 --> 01:18:16,307 Speaker 21: necessarily in trouble, just I just don't like some of 1560 01:18:16,387 --> 01:18:20,027 Speaker 21: the signs when you lose talented guys sometimes in bunches, 1561 01:18:20,107 --> 01:18:22,667 Speaker 21: like we felt like they haven't in recent years. And 1562 01:18:22,747 --> 01:18:24,947 Speaker 21: I know that everyone's got a different kind of budget 1563 01:18:25,307 --> 01:18:29,627 Speaker 21: to operate under, but you know, when there's these guys, 1564 01:18:29,667 --> 01:18:33,587 Speaker 21: I mean, was at a sixteen year old playing last year? Yeah, 1565 01:18:33,587 --> 01:18:35,707 Speaker 21: I think it was maybe seventeen. 1566 01:18:35,587 --> 01:18:37,587 Speaker 2: But I think it was now Luke brook Smith he 1567 01:18:37,707 --> 01:18:41,907 Speaker 2: was he was sixteen. I think he was the youngest 1568 01:18:41,947 --> 01:18:44,267 Speaker 2: goal scorer for the team. Anyway, Gabrielle Sloan would rigous 1569 01:18:44,267 --> 01:18:46,707 Speaker 2: as well. They've had a couple of teenagers. Look, they're 1570 01:18:46,707 --> 01:18:50,027 Speaker 2: playing this afternoon actually in the Australia Cup and they 1571 01:18:50,107 --> 01:18:52,347 Speaker 2: beat Perth with a bunch of bunch of kids. So 1572 01:18:52,587 --> 01:18:55,147 Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe they're onto something at Nick's HQ. 1573 01:18:56,547 --> 01:18:56,947 Speaker 13: It could be. 1574 01:18:57,187 --> 01:18:59,347 Speaker 21: Hey, just one word on the Warriors. I know last 1575 01:18:59,427 --> 01:19:01,587 Speaker 21: night was a bummer but it was to be expected. 1576 01:19:01,707 --> 01:19:04,587 Speaker 21: But I do worry about the run home and the 1577 01:19:04,667 --> 01:19:07,387 Speaker 21: game against the Dragons next week is so pivotal because 1578 01:19:07,467 --> 01:19:11,107 Speaker 21: after that the Titans, Eels and Manly. I don't I 1579 01:19:11,227 --> 01:19:14,587 Speaker 21: just don't think we can guarantee too much, to expect 1580 01:19:14,627 --> 01:19:16,867 Speaker 21: too much. The Titans have always had our recently had 1581 01:19:16,907 --> 01:19:20,707 Speaker 21: our number the Eels Mitchell Moses, Zach Lomas, you know, 1582 01:19:21,707 --> 01:19:24,387 Speaker 21: Josh had Okar, and then we never play well at Brookvale. 1583 01:19:24,507 --> 01:19:27,147 Speaker 21: I just think this is so much riding on this 1584 01:19:27,267 --> 01:19:30,147 Speaker 21: game against the Dragons next week. It's that's going to 1585 01:19:30,147 --> 01:19:32,107 Speaker 21: be a blockbust bust of clash really. 1586 01:19:32,467 --> 01:19:35,987 Speaker 2: Well, indeed, he just just for your comfort. The horses 1587 01:19:36,067 --> 01:19:40,067 Speaker 2: don't stay at the ground text here we know one 1588 01:19:40,107 --> 01:19:42,587 Speaker 2: of the owners of the Crusaders horses. They're taken in 1589 01:19:42,667 --> 01:19:45,027 Speaker 2: for the games. They don't live there. They're saddled on 1590 01:19:45,107 --> 01:19:47,387 Speaker 2: the Addington racecourse side of them at the moment, but 1591 01:19:47,507 --> 01:19:50,067 Speaker 2: only because the race course is there. That's just that's 1592 01:19:50,187 --> 01:19:52,867 Speaker 2: just pure coincidence that that is there. So they go 1593 01:19:52,987 --> 01:19:54,467 Speaker 2: back to their own stables at the end. 1594 01:19:55,827 --> 01:19:57,147 Speaker 5: Yeah, what about Takaha though. 1595 01:19:57,187 --> 01:19:59,147 Speaker 21: That's the question though, isn't it That's what we would 1596 01:19:59,227 --> 01:20:00,267 Speaker 21: need to know in the. 1597 01:20:00,267 --> 01:20:02,067 Speaker 2: Middle of town. Yeah, where are they going to? How 1598 01:20:02,067 --> 01:20:02,827 Speaker 2: a theyre going to get there? 1599 01:20:03,987 --> 01:20:04,187 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1600 01:20:05,747 --> 01:20:06,067 Speaker 13: Before. 1601 01:20:06,347 --> 01:20:07,747 Speaker 21: It's a real issue. 1602 01:20:09,107 --> 01:20:11,547 Speaker 2: It's one of the it's one of the key issues. Hey, 1603 01:20:11,587 --> 01:20:13,187 Speaker 2: great to chat as always, mate, Enjoy the rest of 1604 01:20:13,187 --> 01:20:15,267 Speaker 2: your weekend and we'll catch up again next Sunday. 1605 01:20:16,387 --> 01:20:16,627 Speaker 7: Cheers. 1606 01:20:16,667 --> 01:20:19,147 Speaker 21: I forgot to say, I'm in Fiji, Piney, Piney. 1607 01:20:18,987 --> 01:20:21,387 Speaker 13: So you know, bullets to you and to your listeners. 1608 01:20:21,427 --> 01:20:23,067 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm off to have a swim. 1609 01:20:23,587 --> 01:20:25,787 Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, and have a Fiji Gold afterwards. 1610 01:20:25,827 --> 01:20:29,267 Speaker 2: I can highly recommend that as a refreshing beverage for 1611 01:20:29,587 --> 01:20:31,867 Speaker 2: after a swim or at any time really. Eight and 1612 01:20:31,907 --> 01:20:33,587 Speaker 2: a half away from two news talks, heb. 1613 01:20:34,427 --> 01:20:39,507 Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fail weekends 1614 01:20:39,587 --> 01:20:42,667 Speaker 1: for it with Jason Pin News Talk ZMB. 1615 01:20:44,507 --> 01:20:47,627 Speaker 2: Five to two. David on text Canterbury leaving it late 1616 01:20:47,667 --> 01:20:50,067 Speaker 2: against Auckland last night. I thought that described Wellington the 1617 01:20:50,147 --> 01:20:52,707 Speaker 2: previous week against Canterbury or hang on they didn't turn up. 1618 01:20:52,827 --> 01:20:56,147 Speaker 2: Nice one, David, nice one, very good. You will have 1619 01:20:56,227 --> 01:20:59,187 Speaker 2: noted that Wellington did turn things around yesterday against Why cuttle. 1620 01:21:00,027 --> 01:21:03,147 Speaker 2: All of the NPC action is available on Gold Sport 1621 01:21:03,187 --> 01:21:06,667 Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio. That's for commentary. Of course, we'll cover off 1622 01:21:06,947 --> 01:21:10,627 Speaker 2: in a bumper edition of In case you missed it 1623 01:21:11,147 --> 01:21:13,347 Speaker 2: after two o'clock as well. In the two o'clock hour, 1624 01:21:13,427 --> 01:21:18,347 Speaker 2: we also pay tribute to Peter Lester. PJ. Montgomery probably 1625 01:21:18,747 --> 01:21:21,827 Speaker 2: the only voice that is more well known in yachting 1626 01:21:21,907 --> 01:21:24,667 Speaker 2: circles than Peter Lester's was. The two of them worked 1627 01:21:24,667 --> 01:21:30,347 Speaker 2: together on many events, many regattas, including America's Cups and others. 1628 01:21:31,107 --> 01:21:31,347 Speaker 13: P J. 1629 01:21:31,467 --> 01:21:34,027 Speaker 2: Montgomery going to join us to pay tribute to his 1630 01:21:34,107 --> 01:21:36,907 Speaker 2: mate Peter Lester. After two o'clock, We're also going to 1631 01:21:36,987 --> 01:21:39,547 Speaker 2: check in with the Tour Blacks. They're at the Asia 1632 01:21:39,627 --> 01:21:43,227 Speaker 2: Cup at the moment and in Paul Play, have played 1633 01:21:43,267 --> 01:21:46,427 Speaker 2: three and one three. The most recent game was this 1634 01:21:46,587 --> 01:21:49,307 Speaker 2: morning when they're up against Chinese TYPEI, who were the 1635 01:21:49,467 --> 01:21:53,227 Speaker 2: other team in the group who had designs on top place. 1636 01:21:53,307 --> 01:21:55,907 Speaker 2: Both Chinese TYPEI and New Zealand had won their first 1637 01:21:55,947 --> 01:21:59,107 Speaker 2: two matches. Well, it was no contest the Tour Blacks 1638 01:21:59,147 --> 01:22:02,907 Speaker 2: wanting it one eighteen to seventy eight. Top scoring for 1639 01:22:02,947 --> 01:22:06,267 Speaker 2: the Tour Blacks this morning was Flynn Cameron. Pretty famous 1640 01:22:06,467 --> 01:22:09,027 Speaker 2: her name when it comes to basketball in this country. Yes, 1641 01:22:09,107 --> 01:22:12,587 Speaker 2: he is the son of Pedo Cameron, who ironically enough, 1642 01:22:12,667 --> 01:22:15,267 Speaker 2: was on commentary for this game. I was watching it 1643 01:22:15,347 --> 01:22:18,587 Speaker 2: this morning, and it's probably natural that you want to, 1644 01:22:18,987 --> 01:22:21,627 Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to pretend or not pretend. 1645 01:22:21,627 --> 01:22:23,947 Speaker 2: You don't want to feel like you're too biased towards 1646 01:22:24,027 --> 01:22:27,427 Speaker 2: your own kids. Because Pero Cameron hardly mentioned Flint at all, 1647 01:22:27,867 --> 01:22:31,187 Speaker 2: even though it was you know, top scoring and having 1648 01:22:31,227 --> 01:22:33,347 Speaker 2: an excellent game. Pero I think was just, you know, 1649 01:22:33,707 --> 01:22:36,707 Speaker 2: just trying to remain unbiased. But Flint Cameron's on the 1650 01:22:36,907 --> 01:22:38,907 Speaker 2: on the radio with us after two o'clock as well. 1651 01:22:39,907 --> 01:22:44,027 Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues, 1652 01:22:44,827 --> 01:22:49,707 Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on 1653 01:22:49,867 --> 01:22:53,627 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyin on your home of Sport 1654 01:22:54,107 --> 01:22:54,707 Speaker 1: News Talks. 1655 01:22:54,707 --> 01:22:55,187 Speaker 13: He'd been. 1656 01:22:56,787 --> 01:22:59,107 Speaker 2: At two o seven. This is Weekend Sport on News Talks. 1657 01:22:59,107 --> 01:23:02,267 Speaker 2: He'd be until three, Tim Beverage taking over after that 1658 01:23:02,427 --> 01:23:06,187 Speaker 2: for the Sunday edition of the Weekend Collective before we 1659 01:23:06,467 --> 01:23:09,587 Speaker 2: can conduct that. Handover quite a bit to get through 1660 01:23:10,307 --> 01:23:12,707 Speaker 2: bumper edition of in case you missed it coming up. 1661 01:23:12,747 --> 01:23:15,267 Speaker 2: There's heaps to cover off. It's happened in the last 1662 01:23:15,307 --> 01:23:18,467 Speaker 2: twenty four hours or so, which may have escaped your retention. 1663 01:23:18,987 --> 01:23:21,747 Speaker 2: Then PJ Montgomery going to join us with a tribute 1664 01:23:21,747 --> 01:23:25,547 Speaker 2: to Peter Lester, who, as you've perhaps heard on our 1665 01:23:25,587 --> 01:23:28,067 Speaker 2: news this afternoon, has passed away at the age of 1666 01:23:28,187 --> 01:23:32,547 Speaker 2: seventy A very familiar voice to not just shotting fans 1667 01:23:32,587 --> 01:23:38,307 Speaker 2: but sports fans. His ability to break down complicated sailing 1668 01:23:39,947 --> 01:23:45,827 Speaker 2: strategies and concepts to just the average everyday New Zealander 1669 01:23:46,027 --> 01:23:48,347 Speaker 2: or sports viewer was I think what set him apart 1670 01:23:48,387 --> 01:23:51,307 Speaker 2: from a lot of analysts and a lot of different 1671 01:23:51,347 --> 01:23:57,707 Speaker 2: sports Peter Leicester passing away on Friday, PJ Montgomery paying tribute. Shortly, 1672 01:23:58,307 --> 01:24:00,387 Speaker 2: Georgia Miller's on the show about to jump on the 1673 01:24:00,427 --> 01:24:02,627 Speaker 2: plane with the Black Ferns to head to the Northern 1674 01:24:02,707 --> 01:24:07,227 Speaker 2: Hemisphere to defend the Rugby World Cup tile the Blackburn's 1675 01:24:07,267 --> 01:24:08,947 Speaker 2: won on home soil at the back end of twenty 1676 01:24:09,027 --> 01:24:11,827 Speaker 2: twenty two. How are they feeling about that? Georgia Miller 1677 01:24:12,107 --> 01:24:14,747 Speaker 2: will be with us and Flynn Cameron has mentioned before 1678 01:24:14,867 --> 01:24:18,347 Speaker 2: two big part of the Tall Blacks run to the 1679 01:24:18,427 --> 01:24:22,467 Speaker 2: quarterfinals at the Asia Cup in Saudi Arabia, including top 1680 01:24:22,507 --> 01:24:26,187 Speaker 2: scoring game high twenty eight points this morning as New 1681 01:24:26,307 --> 01:24:30,387 Speaker 2: Zealand beat Chinese Taipei by forty points in their final 1682 01:24:30,467 --> 01:24:33,707 Speaker 2: pull match. Your cause and correspondents continue to be welcome 1683 01:24:33,747 --> 01:24:36,387 Speaker 2: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You can send 1684 01:24:36,427 --> 01:24:38,747 Speaker 2: you text through to nine two nine two and emails 1685 01:24:38,787 --> 01:24:41,667 Speaker 2: to Jason at Newstalk seadb dot co dot instead updating 1686 01:24:41,707 --> 01:24:43,907 Speaker 2: live sport as well. Counties Manico and Bay of Plenty 1687 01:24:44,267 --> 01:24:46,307 Speaker 2: have just kicked off and book a coe no score 1688 01:24:46,387 --> 01:24:48,907 Speaker 2: there early and that one and in the far of 1689 01:24:49,027 --> 01:24:53,107 Speaker 2: Palmer Cup can tell you that Canterbury lead Munaw two 1690 01:24:53,227 --> 01:24:56,027 Speaker 2: twenty five nil early in the second half of their 1691 01:24:56,067 --> 01:24:59,267 Speaker 2: clash in christ Church and in Dunedin, Otago and North 1692 01:24:59,347 --> 01:25:02,107 Speaker 2: Harbor have just got an underway. So as always will 1693 01:25:02,187 --> 01:25:04,867 Speaker 2: keep eyes on the live sport that is happening around 1694 01:25:04,907 --> 01:25:07,627 Speaker 2: the place. But as we tick to war Lord's nine 1695 01:25:07,787 --> 01:25:10,067 Speaker 2: past two, as we always do it around about this 1696 01:25:10,187 --> 01:25:13,107 Speaker 2: time on weekend sport, let's get you across some of 1697 01:25:13,107 --> 01:25:15,347 Speaker 2: the stuff you may have missed in case you missed it, 1698 01:25:16,107 --> 01:25:21,707 Speaker 2: starting with this absolutely stunning comeback from Kiwi triathlete Hayden 1699 01:25:21,787 --> 01:25:24,987 Speaker 2: Wild at the latest T one hundred event in London. 1700 01:25:25,547 --> 01:25:29,427 Speaker 2: Less than one hundred days after suffering career threatening injuries 1701 01:25:30,107 --> 01:25:33,707 Speaker 2: after he was hit by a truck in Japan, leaving 1702 01:25:33,827 --> 01:25:37,507 Speaker 2: him with a punch of lung, six broken ribs, and 1703 01:25:37,667 --> 01:25:40,507 Speaker 2: a shoulder blade injury. He came out this morning and 1704 01:25:40,587 --> 01:25:43,987 Speaker 2: did this, and perhaps the emotion startsing to show because 1705 01:25:44,027 --> 01:25:49,307 Speaker 2: this gewe athlete is built of something quite extraordinary. Hayden 1706 01:25:49,387 --> 01:25:52,587 Speaker 2: Wild's two wins from two in the T one hundred 1707 01:25:52,707 --> 01:25:57,907 Speaker 2: this year. What's an incredible logic defying performance. Astonishing from 1708 01:25:57,907 --> 01:26:00,147 Speaker 2: Hayden Wild and good on him as well. The Tall Blacks, 1709 01:26:00,147 --> 01:26:03,707 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, quarterfinal bound at Basketball's Asia Cup with 1710 01:26:03,827 --> 01:26:07,187 Speaker 2: a commanding one to eighteen seventy eight went over Taipei 1711 01:26:07,787 --> 01:26:09,307 Speaker 2: in jitter wow. 1712 01:26:10,587 --> 01:26:13,587 Speaker 3: All I can say is this turned into a pretty 1713 01:26:13,667 --> 01:26:16,747 Speaker 3: significant high scoring win for New Zealand. 1714 01:26:16,907 --> 01:26:17,627 Speaker 13: Oh my goodness. 1715 01:26:17,787 --> 01:26:19,947 Speaker 2: New Zealand led forty nine to thirty five at half time. 1716 01:26:20,027 --> 01:26:23,387 Speaker 2: They outscored their opponents sixty nine forty three in the 1717 01:26:23,467 --> 01:26:28,027 Speaker 2: second half to the NRL. An outstanding performance from the 1718 01:26:28,107 --> 01:26:31,547 Speaker 2: Warriors women demolishing the Bulldogs in Sydney last night. 1719 01:26:31,907 --> 01:26:38,307 Speaker 4: Last tackle Haikol curtain crossfield kick with Ted is the targets. 1720 01:26:38,067 --> 01:26:41,707 Speaker 5: Targets the Laarriors. 1721 01:26:41,307 --> 01:26:47,027 Speaker 2: Finishing in style right time. They've wrecked up Murdy the Warriors. 1722 01:26:47,547 --> 01:26:50,507 Speaker 3: Edit's party time for the visitors. 1723 01:26:50,627 --> 01:26:53,547 Speaker 2: And the means the Dragons putting a dent in the Sharks. 1724 01:26:53,627 --> 01:26:54,347 Speaker 2: Top eight hopes. 1725 01:26:54,467 --> 01:26:58,107 Speaker 17: Call it up now, Barcella, I'm a Kingtongia edit Gos 1726 01:26:58,147 --> 01:27:00,707 Speaker 17: Buchananda great pass try. 1727 01:27:02,707 --> 01:27:07,187 Speaker 19: The straws one set turn up Hey John to jump. 1728 01:27:07,067 --> 01:27:10,187 Speaker 2: Us out a very jefs one final score twenty two 1729 01:27:10,187 --> 01:27:12,387 Speaker 2: to fourteen to the Dragons over the Sharks and the 1730 01:27:12,587 --> 01:27:16,747 Speaker 2: Roosters blowing the Dolphins away to move level on points 1731 01:27:17,187 --> 01:27:17,947 Speaker 2: in eighth position. 1732 01:27:18,267 --> 01:27:22,507 Speaker 22: Quick played the boy to Tesco and turn two Poe 1733 01:27:23,787 --> 01:27:29,067 Speaker 22: ed Is Razzle dazzl Harlot Crooks Sidney Roosters. 1734 01:27:28,827 --> 01:27:32,947 Speaker 2: Excellence sixty four to twelve the final score there of 1735 01:27:32,947 --> 01:27:37,587 Speaker 2: the Roosters over the Dolphins to our NPC Wellington picking 1736 01:27:37,667 --> 01:27:40,747 Speaker 2: up their first win of the season in Hamilton, scoring 1737 01:27:40,787 --> 01:27:41,707 Speaker 2: early to set the tone. 1738 01:27:41,787 --> 01:27:44,427 Speaker 23: I meet it sure all there for Wellington's pi can 1739 01:27:44,547 --> 01:27:46,627 Speaker 23: go from PJ ship ship. 1740 01:27:46,507 --> 01:27:48,587 Speaker 5: Drives at the line. I think you might have got there, 1741 01:27:48,667 --> 01:27:49,867 Speaker 5: claiming to try and. 1742 01:27:49,987 --> 01:27:52,747 Speaker 2: The try goes the sheck thirty five twenty four the 1743 01:27:52,827 --> 01:27:56,227 Speaker 2: final score at FMG Stadium Taranaki. Meantime too good for 1744 01:27:56,347 --> 01:27:58,387 Speaker 2: North Harbor at Albany and. 1745 01:27:58,547 --> 01:28:01,747 Speaker 24: Now the kick inj a touch from Josh Jacob and 1746 01:28:01,987 --> 01:28:03,947 Speaker 24: Taranaki take the maximum. 1747 01:28:04,347 --> 01:28:05,267 Speaker 2: I had to fight for it. 1748 01:28:05,267 --> 01:28:07,787 Speaker 24: It was tight at half time, but they've drawn away 1749 01:28:08,187 --> 01:28:11,867 Speaker 24: in the second half, a very comfortable margin forty six 1750 01:28:12,107 --> 01:28:13,947 Speaker 24: to twenty four over North Harbor. 1751 01:28:14,027 --> 01:28:16,827 Speaker 2: Hair goodwin from Tlanacky. They are top of the table. 1752 01:28:16,987 --> 01:28:20,307 Speaker 2: Tasman bouncing back from defeat to Bay of Plenty last 1753 01:28:20,387 --> 01:28:24,107 Speaker 2: weekend to easily beat Manawatu and Nelson with a returning 1754 01:28:24,147 --> 01:28:25,027 Speaker 2: all Black to the four. 1755 01:28:25,307 --> 01:28:26,947 Speaker 7: This one's kick doesn't go out and if it doesn't 1756 01:28:26,987 --> 01:28:27,787 Speaker 7: go anyway near. 1757 01:28:27,707 --> 01:28:29,907 Speaker 25: The twilight, but it's gonna go in arms of firing 1758 01:28:29,947 --> 01:28:33,067 Speaker 25: and I'll go into the twenty two. He's weaving this way, 1759 01:28:33,147 --> 01:28:36,627 Speaker 25: he's weaving that, he's bumping off defenders. He's back in 1760 01:28:36,707 --> 01:28:39,747 Speaker 25: New Zealand rugby and he's for a second try. 1761 01:28:40,027 --> 01:28:43,907 Speaker 2: Their terrific from Leicester faighting Anoko and Canterbury last night, 1762 01:28:43,987 --> 01:28:47,547 Speaker 2: coming back from fifteen seven down to beat Auckland and 1763 01:28:47,627 --> 01:28:48,187 Speaker 2: christ Church. 1764 01:28:48,587 --> 01:28:51,787 Speaker 6: Christie at the back fee Harky McNichol hell told ahead 1765 01:28:51,987 --> 01:28:54,307 Speaker 6: thought race Rover's first tot he. 1766 01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:55,067 Speaker 5: Dives on it. 1767 01:28:55,187 --> 01:28:56,947 Speaker 2: Oh it's up, he's gone. 1768 01:28:58,227 --> 01:29:03,267 Speaker 22: What if he's little brilliance from tonor rover to. 1769 01:29:03,467 --> 01:29:06,587 Speaker 2: Dive of the pool, use the chewy ground. 1770 01:29:06,907 --> 01:29:11,267 Speaker 22: Get up and propel himself over the line. At Canterbury 1771 01:29:11,387 --> 01:29:14,027 Speaker 22: replayed the lead nineteen. 1772 01:29:13,747 --> 01:29:18,227 Speaker 2: Fifteen and it remained nineteen fifteen to the UK, where 1773 01:29:18,267 --> 01:29:21,547 Speaker 2: Libby Caccacci the All White made his debut for Wrexham 1774 01:29:22,027 --> 01:29:26,547 Speaker 2: in the English Championship away at Southampton. He was subbed 1775 01:29:26,627 --> 01:29:29,547 Speaker 2: off with five minutes to go and Wrexham wondill ahead. 1776 01:29:30,147 --> 01:29:33,707 Speaker 2: Southampton then quickly equalized and then won it right at 1777 01:29:33,747 --> 01:29:34,187 Speaker 2: the ends. 1778 01:29:34,787 --> 01:29:35,547 Speaker 5: But here's manning. 1779 01:29:35,827 --> 01:29:38,227 Speaker 25: Maybe they win it now, hated. 1780 01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:40,027 Speaker 2: Would you believe it? 1781 01:29:40,307 --> 01:29:41,427 Speaker 5: Jack Stevens a. 1782 01:29:41,587 --> 01:29:44,267 Speaker 22: Captain, We're thirty the last cat. 1783 01:29:44,747 --> 01:29:47,107 Speaker 25: Jack Stevens the pre Brexham hearts. 1784 01:29:47,547 --> 01:29:47,707 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1785 01:29:47,747 --> 01:29:50,627 Speaker 2: We don't be taking Libby Caccacci off at Wonderlla Heead anymore, 1786 01:29:50,667 --> 01:29:54,707 Speaker 2: will they. NASCAR driver Shane van Gisbergen has crashed out 1787 01:29:55,147 --> 01:29:58,187 Speaker 2: of this morning's second tier Exfinity race in New York 1788 01:29:58,347 --> 01:30:03,947 Speaker 2: Power Mountain. There's the content and Bran takes the lead 1789 01:30:04,107 --> 01:30:09,107 Speaker 2: one through the name caution is out. Oh my goodness, 1790 01:30:09,227 --> 01:30:12,067 Speaker 2: here that is spinning into the wall after making contact 1791 01:30:12,147 --> 01:30:15,187 Speaker 2: with rival Connor Zilich as they were jeweling for the lead. 1792 01:30:15,467 --> 01:30:18,347 Speaker 2: Zilich went on to win the race, se and finally 1793 01:30:18,467 --> 01:30:22,267 Speaker 2: the black Caps completing a crushing defeat of Zimbabwe in 1794 01:30:22,347 --> 01:30:25,747 Speaker 2: the second Test in Bulawayo, our biggest ever Test win 1795 01:30:26,267 --> 01:30:29,347 Speaker 2: and the third biggest in the history of Test cricket. 1796 01:30:31,947 --> 01:30:34,907 Speaker 23: And out this time the gully fielder takes that catch 1797 01:30:34,987 --> 01:30:38,227 Speaker 23: and Duffy gets his second wicket off the first bottom 1798 01:30:38,227 --> 01:30:41,387 Speaker 23: and New over one hundred and seventeen all out Zimbabwe 1799 01:30:41,547 --> 01:30:43,707 Speaker 23: in their second outing and news it in win this 1800 01:30:43,867 --> 01:30:46,507 Speaker 23: Test match by an innings and three hundred and fifty 1801 01:30:46,587 --> 01:30:49,547 Speaker 23: nine runs and sealed the series two games to new. 1802 01:30:50,227 --> 01:30:53,747 Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport, Weekend 1803 01:30:53,867 --> 01:30:56,347 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Lyne, The News Talks, A'd Be. 1804 01:30:57,147 --> 01:31:00,347 Speaker 2: News Talks, He'd Be and Weekend Sport on Text. Hayden 1805 01:31:00,427 --> 01:31:04,947 Speaker 2: wild incredible. That is basically half iron Man distance as well. Yeah, 1806 01:31:05,067 --> 01:31:08,427 Speaker 2: just incredible. Just correction as well, he wasn't hit by 1807 01:31:08,507 --> 01:31:12,867 Speaker 2: a truck. He rode into the back of a stationery truck. 1808 01:31:12,947 --> 01:31:16,667 Speaker 2: But even so, the injuries that Hayden Wilde sustained and 1809 01:31:16,827 --> 01:31:19,227 Speaker 2: has come back from in such a short space of time. 1810 01:31:19,667 --> 01:31:22,587 Speaker 2: Absolutely incredible. We'll get Hayden Wild on the show in 1811 01:31:22,627 --> 01:31:25,507 Speaker 2: the next little while and get him to talk us 1812 01:31:25,587 --> 01:31:28,667 Speaker 2: through what he's been through and how on earth he 1813 01:31:28,867 --> 01:31:34,667 Speaker 2: managed to get himself back so quickly. It's quarter past two. 1814 01:31:34,827 --> 01:31:37,907 Speaker 2: A huge loss for the sailing community with the death 1815 01:31:37,987 --> 01:31:41,907 Speaker 2: of former America's Cup tactician Peter Lester at the age 1816 01:31:41,907 --> 01:31:45,947 Speaker 2: of seventy. He saw through three America's Cup campaigns and 1817 01:31:46,067 --> 01:31:49,867 Speaker 2: became an expert voice on the sport, involved in the 1818 01:31:49,987 --> 01:31:53,627 Speaker 2: world feed team for last year's America's Cup in Barcelona. 1819 01:31:54,107 --> 01:31:58,747 Speaker 2: He has been a voice of authority and an explanatory 1820 01:31:58,867 --> 01:32:03,307 Speaker 2: voice to us across so many years in sailing commentary. 1821 01:32:03,667 --> 01:32:06,307 Speaker 2: Peter Lester died on Friday night after suffering a heart 1822 01:32:06,427 --> 01:32:11,707 Speaker 2: attack a week earlier. Fellow America's Cup commentator Peter Montgomery 1823 01:32:11,867 --> 01:32:16,027 Speaker 2: worked extremely closely with Peter Lester, and he joins us now, 1824 01:32:16,187 --> 01:32:20,267 Speaker 2: Pjson's here, condolences for the loss of your great mate. 1825 01:32:20,867 --> 01:32:23,587 Speaker 2: Peter Lester tell us about the time that the two 1826 01:32:23,667 --> 01:32:25,147 Speaker 2: of you spent together. 1827 01:32:25,987 --> 01:32:28,467 Speaker 26: Our greetings, Jason. Yes, it's quite a shock and I'm 1828 01:32:28,707 --> 01:32:33,107 Speaker 26: struggling to take it in, but I've known Peter for 1829 01:32:33,827 --> 01:32:37,507 Speaker 26: well a very long time. I commentated out of Takapuna 1830 01:32:37,547 --> 01:32:41,667 Speaker 26: Beach back in nineteen seventy seven in the second World 1831 01:32:41,747 --> 01:32:44,627 Speaker 26: ok Dinghies held in New Zealand, the first back in 1832 01:32:44,747 --> 01:32:48,787 Speaker 26: nineteen seventy and Peter Leicester won that against some very 1833 01:32:49,027 --> 01:32:54,587 Speaker 26: very formidable opposition. And then he subsequently went on to 1834 01:32:55,467 --> 01:32:58,787 Speaker 26: be involved in the one Ton Cup when back in 1835 01:32:58,867 --> 01:33:01,547 Speaker 26: the very early seventies that was a very big deal 1836 01:33:01,667 --> 01:33:04,747 Speaker 26: for New Zealand sailing, and then onto the Admirals Cup, 1837 01:33:04,987 --> 01:33:07,707 Speaker 26: winning that what was it in the late eighties eighty seven, 1838 01:33:08,227 --> 01:33:13,227 Speaker 26: and then he had been a tactician in the America's 1839 01:33:13,267 --> 01:33:16,707 Speaker 26: Cup and a couple of times New Zealand Sailor of 1840 01:33:16,747 --> 01:33:21,027 Speaker 26: the Year, and then he morphed over into the transition 1841 01:33:21,387 --> 01:33:26,427 Speaker 26: of a sailing broadcaster as well, notably as a sailing analyst. 1842 01:33:27,387 --> 01:33:32,027 Speaker 2: You've worked alongside many people in a broadcast sense, PJ. 1843 01:33:32,187 --> 01:33:32,547 Speaker 12: And I know. 1844 01:33:34,027 --> 01:33:37,187 Speaker 2: Not every sportsperson can make the transition across. How was 1845 01:33:37,267 --> 01:33:40,387 Speaker 2: Peter Lester able to do that, to go from sailor 1846 01:33:40,507 --> 01:33:42,627 Speaker 2: to explaining sailing to us? 1847 01:33:43,387 --> 01:33:49,827 Speaker 26: Well, probably way back when I remember well, originally when 1848 01:33:49,867 --> 01:33:53,427 Speaker 26: I first started broadcasting, Bill McCarthy told me the very 1849 01:33:53,507 --> 01:33:54,027 Speaker 26: first day. 1850 01:33:54,227 --> 01:33:55,387 Speaker 13: Don't ever forget. 1851 01:33:55,147 --> 01:33:57,627 Speaker 26: You're talking to the little old lady with the blue 1852 01:33:57,707 --> 01:34:00,867 Speaker 26: rints headoo and white tennis shoes. And I've never forgotten that. 1853 01:34:00,987 --> 01:34:03,827 Speaker 26: And I remember telling Peter Lester that as well, and 1854 01:34:04,587 --> 01:34:07,907 Speaker 26: as with many others, and Peter was able to do that, 1855 01:34:08,107 --> 01:34:13,267 Speaker 26: because what can be quite a complicated sport, then Peter 1856 01:34:13,467 --> 01:34:17,307 Speaker 26: was able to break that down to be understood by 1857 01:34:18,027 --> 01:34:21,787 Speaker 26: people who were certainly interested in the America's Cup but 1858 01:34:22,347 --> 01:34:28,067 Speaker 26: had no serious sailing knowledge. And Peter was able to 1859 01:34:28,147 --> 01:34:29,227 Speaker 26: do that and do it well. 1860 01:34:29,987 --> 01:34:32,907 Speaker 2: And of course these were regattas that you're involved and 1861 01:34:33,027 --> 01:34:35,587 Speaker 2: often go on for a long long time, don't they. PJ. 1862 01:34:35,707 --> 01:34:36,947 Speaker 2: You would have spent a lot of time in Peter 1863 01:34:37,027 --> 01:34:41,547 Speaker 2: Lister's company outside of the commentary box. What were you know? 1864 01:34:41,667 --> 01:34:43,707 Speaker 2: What will those memories be like for you? 1865 01:34:44,627 --> 01:34:44,747 Speaker 13: Ah? 1866 01:34:44,907 --> 01:34:49,827 Speaker 26: Well, he was always a very friendly, personable person who 1867 01:34:50,067 --> 01:34:53,347 Speaker 26: was very much a glass half full and well he 1868 01:34:53,507 --> 01:34:57,027 Speaker 26: was good company and had a very funny sense of humor, 1869 01:34:57,507 --> 01:35:00,707 Speaker 26: and I witnessed that often. 1870 01:35:01,227 --> 01:35:01,307 Speaker 13: Now. 1871 01:35:01,587 --> 01:35:04,947 Speaker 26: He was just very good company, very knowledgeable about the 1872 01:35:04,987 --> 01:35:08,147 Speaker 26: sport he was talking about, but also very good company. 1873 01:35:08,267 --> 01:35:10,187 Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your PJ. I know you've got a 1874 01:35:10,347 --> 01:35:13,507 Speaker 2: queue of people waiting to chat to you about Peter Lester, 1875 01:35:13,627 --> 01:35:15,387 Speaker 2: so we'll let you go, but appreciate you joining us 1876 01:35:15,387 --> 01:35:18,467 Speaker 2: here on news talks. He'd be to remember your great mate, 1877 01:35:18,627 --> 01:35:22,587 Speaker 2: that's PJ. Montgomery, who probably knew Peter Lester as well, 1878 01:35:22,707 --> 01:35:25,587 Speaker 2: if not better than most people. There's a wonderful tribute 1879 01:35:25,627 --> 01:35:31,027 Speaker 2: on the New Zealand Herald website, incidentally written by Michael Burgess. Yeah, 1880 01:35:31,067 --> 01:35:36,147 Speaker 2: Peter Lester's voice was just so well known, and like 1881 01:35:36,227 --> 01:35:39,587 Speaker 2: I say, he just had this ability, this innate ability 1882 01:35:40,467 --> 01:35:45,867 Speaker 2: to explain things to you in everyday terms, because yachting 1883 01:35:46,707 --> 01:35:48,827 Speaker 2: it's you know, for anyone who's been evolved in it, 1884 01:35:48,867 --> 01:35:50,667 Speaker 2: and I haven't, but for anyone's been involved in there's 1885 01:35:50,747 --> 01:35:54,787 Speaker 2: so much jargon, so much terminology, that it must take 1886 01:35:54,867 --> 01:35:57,347 Speaker 2: you years to sort of get your head rounds. But 1887 01:35:57,547 --> 01:36:00,587 Speaker 2: that becomes intrinsic in the in the sport, but is 1888 01:36:00,667 --> 01:36:03,227 Speaker 2: not well known outside of the sport. But Peter Lester 1889 01:36:03,747 --> 01:36:06,107 Speaker 2: had this ability when he was explaining things that were 1890 01:36:06,107 --> 01:36:10,987 Speaker 2: happen on the screen, or unpacking why a certain strategy 1891 01:36:11,067 --> 01:36:14,107 Speaker 2: had been undertaken by by one crew or the other, 1892 01:36:14,347 --> 01:36:18,147 Speaker 2: or just able to get inside the heads of the 1893 01:36:18,267 --> 01:36:22,507 Speaker 2: sailors and give us some razor sharp insight into what 1894 01:36:22,707 --> 01:36:25,587 Speaker 2: they were feeling and thinking at any given moment. It 1895 01:36:25,747 --> 01:36:29,827 Speaker 2: was without peer for me, and as I said to 1896 01:36:29,867 --> 01:36:35,467 Speaker 2: Francesca before midday, this is certainly not, you know, common 1897 01:36:37,427 --> 01:36:42,467 Speaker 2: among sports commentators who have been high level athletes themselves. 1898 01:36:42,547 --> 01:36:44,227 Speaker 2: Some of them are very good at it, and we've 1899 01:36:44,227 --> 01:36:46,747 Speaker 2: all got our favorites and those who come across and 1900 01:36:47,107 --> 01:36:52,627 Speaker 2: transition seamlessly into commentary from being a competitor. Not everybody 1901 01:36:52,667 --> 01:36:54,867 Speaker 2: can do it, but Peter Lester was able to do it. 1902 01:36:54,987 --> 01:36:59,707 Speaker 2: He just had a depth of knowledge and a vocabulary 1903 01:36:59,867 --> 01:37:04,267 Speaker 2: which we could all understand. He put it in layman's terms. 1904 01:37:04,547 --> 01:37:07,747 Speaker 2: That's about as some as I can put it to you. 1905 01:37:07,867 --> 01:37:11,027 Speaker 2: Kid A Piney says this text from Rob. I thought 1906 01:37:11,027 --> 01:37:13,067 Speaker 2: the loss of Peter Berling of America's cup Helm was 1907 01:37:13,107 --> 01:37:15,347 Speaker 2: hard for the New Zealand sailing public, but as totally 1908 01:37:15,387 --> 01:37:22,107 Speaker 2: surpassed by Peter Lester's passing knowledge, voice and commentating mastery 1909 01:37:22,627 --> 01:37:26,907 Speaker 2: that made sailing watching both a pleasure and compelling sail 1910 01:37:26,947 --> 01:37:29,707 Speaker 2: away and peace. Peter Lester, Thank you, Rob, appreciate your text. 1911 01:37:30,467 --> 01:37:33,067 Speaker 2: So sorry to hear this news, says Janet I loved 1912 01:37:33,107 --> 01:37:36,947 Speaker 2: him as a sports commentator, especially around those wonderful America's 1913 01:37:37,027 --> 01:37:41,587 Speaker 2: Cup regattas. Yeah, look, he'll he'll be sadly missed. He 1914 01:37:41,667 --> 01:37:44,267 Speaker 2: was at the top of his game too. He certainly 1915 01:37:44,387 --> 01:37:48,067 Speaker 2: wasn't anywhere near the end. He took part in coverage 1916 01:37:48,067 --> 01:37:50,787 Speaker 2: of the America's Cup in Barcelona last time out and 1917 01:37:50,987 --> 01:37:55,067 Speaker 2: was highly sought after as a broadcaster and an analyst. 1918 01:37:56,187 --> 01:37:59,387 Speaker 2: Rest well now, Peter Lester, gone far too soon at 1919 01:37:59,427 --> 01:38:03,387 Speaker 2: the age of seventy two. Twenty two, on News Talks, 1920 01:38:03,387 --> 01:38:05,427 Speaker 2: heb this is Weekend Sport. We're back in a moment. 1921 01:38:06,467 --> 01:38:10,147 Speaker 1: Voice of Sport on your home of sport Weekend Sport 1922 01:38:10,267 --> 01:38:13,867 Speaker 1: with Jason Vain and TJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's most 1923 01:38:13,907 --> 01:38:15,307 Speaker 1: trusted oh Builder News. 1924 01:38:15,147 --> 01:38:18,227 Speaker 2: Talks' News Talks. They'll be coming up to twenty five. 1925 01:38:19,147 --> 01:38:22,987 Speaker 2: The Steelers, No, they're the Steamers. The Steelers are County's Manico. 1926 01:38:23,467 --> 01:38:25,787 Speaker 2: The Steamers are Bay of Plenty. They're playing one another 1927 01:38:25,987 --> 01:38:28,547 Speaker 2: and it's the Steamers off to an absolute flight. They're 1928 01:38:28,547 --> 01:38:34,027 Speaker 2: fourteen nill ahead after nineteen minutes in Pokakoe, two converted 1929 01:38:34,067 --> 01:38:37,147 Speaker 2: tries already for Bay of Plenty, who of course had 1930 01:38:37,187 --> 01:38:40,187 Speaker 2: a very impressive first up went over Tasman last weekend, 1931 01:38:40,347 --> 01:38:45,787 Speaker 2: so marking themselves out as early contenders for the NPC 1932 01:38:46,027 --> 01:38:49,187 Speaker 2: title are a Bay of plenty fourteen nill ahead in 1933 01:38:49,307 --> 01:38:52,187 Speaker 2: the Farah Palmer Cup. Just updating you from christ Church 1934 01:38:52,307 --> 01:38:55,787 Speaker 2: where there's twenty minutes to go at Rugby Park, Canterbury 1935 01:38:55,827 --> 01:39:00,267 Speaker 2: twenty five to five over munawar Tu and in Ternedin. 1936 01:39:00,347 --> 01:39:03,907 Speaker 2: The early game down there the women's game Otago seven 1937 01:39:04,067 --> 01:39:08,747 Speaker 2: North Harbor fourteen after twenty minutes, and the late game, 1938 01:39:08,787 --> 01:39:12,227 Speaker 2: of course in Dunedin is the final bunnings ENPC match 1939 01:39:12,307 --> 01:39:18,067 Speaker 2: of the weekend where Otago host Hawks Bay. Speaking of rugby, 1940 01:39:18,347 --> 01:39:21,187 Speaker 2: just over two weeks until the Black Ferns begin the 1941 01:39:21,267 --> 01:39:25,387 Speaker 2: defense of their Rugby World Cup title. Many of the 1942 01:39:25,427 --> 01:39:29,067 Speaker 2: squad are heading to their first Rugby World Cup, including 1943 01:39:29,187 --> 01:39:32,547 Speaker 2: seven star Georgia Miller, who of course was last year's 1944 01:39:32,587 --> 01:39:34,347 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Player of the Year. 1945 01:39:34,827 --> 01:39:37,547 Speaker 8: Miller underneath it's good distance on at Mines, but Miller 1946 01:39:37,587 --> 01:39:39,667 Speaker 8: are chance to try and get some of his silky 1947 01:39:39,787 --> 01:39:42,587 Speaker 8: stealthit going as he does just that. 1948 01:39:42,867 --> 01:39:47,587 Speaker 21: Georgia, Hello Georgia for brilliance. 1949 01:39:48,987 --> 01:39:51,827 Speaker 2: One of the more eye catching tries of recent times 1950 01:39:51,907 --> 01:39:55,307 Speaker 2: from Georgia Miller there, she joins us. Now, Georgia, thanks 1951 01:39:55,347 --> 01:39:57,107 Speaker 2: for taking the time. How does it feel as you're 1952 01:39:57,107 --> 01:39:59,827 Speaker 2: about to jet out to what will be your first 1953 01:40:00,027 --> 01:40:02,107 Speaker 2: Fifteen's Rugby World Cup. 1954 01:40:02,867 --> 01:40:06,467 Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm so ready to go. It's 1955 01:40:06,467 --> 01:40:08,747 Speaker 16: going to be an exciting couple a couple of. 1956 01:40:08,747 --> 01:40:11,307 Speaker 8: Months with the girls, but just enjoying some time at 1957 01:40:11,347 --> 01:40:13,067 Speaker 8: home and soaking that up before we head away. 1958 01:40:13,427 --> 01:40:15,907 Speaker 2: What of the last two or three weeks since the 1959 01:40:15,987 --> 01:40:18,467 Speaker 2: squad was named been like for you and the rest 1960 01:40:18,507 --> 01:40:18,907 Speaker 2: of the team. 1961 01:40:19,747 --> 01:40:23,387 Speaker 8: So we've been in camp for two weeks down in Wellington, 1962 01:40:24,427 --> 01:40:25,467 Speaker 8: which was pretty intense. 1963 01:40:25,547 --> 01:40:27,987 Speaker 16: I think, you know, we've ramped up a whole another level, 1964 01:40:28,027 --> 01:40:31,067 Speaker 16: which is exciting and what we need. And then we've 1965 01:40:31,107 --> 01:40:31,387 Speaker 16: had this. 1966 01:40:31,507 --> 01:40:33,547 Speaker 8: Week and the start of next week where we just 1967 01:40:33,827 --> 01:40:37,547 Speaker 8: runs at home, still training and just yeah, preparing. 1968 01:40:37,187 --> 01:40:37,867 Speaker 16: To head over there. 1969 01:40:38,347 --> 01:40:41,307 Speaker 2: For you, Georgia, what are the biggest adjustments that you've 1970 01:40:41,387 --> 01:40:44,187 Speaker 2: had to make coming from the sevens game into fifteen's? 1971 01:40:45,027 --> 01:40:48,387 Speaker 8: Probably for me being a loose forward, would be the 1972 01:40:48,467 --> 01:40:52,267 Speaker 8: physicality of it all and just kind of I guess 1973 01:40:52,307 --> 01:40:54,587 Speaker 8: I'm probably on the smaller side for a flanker, so 1974 01:40:54,827 --> 01:40:58,907 Speaker 8: just using my strengths and manipulating that in a way 1975 01:40:58,987 --> 01:41:01,067 Speaker 8: that I can still dominate in the physicality. 1976 01:41:01,267 --> 01:41:03,827 Speaker 2: Well, he's been talk as well about you featuring in 1977 01:41:03,867 --> 01:41:06,027 Speaker 2: the back line. I don't know if it's just people 1978 01:41:06,147 --> 01:41:09,147 Speaker 2: you know spitballing or whether it's an actual thing, But 1979 01:41:09,227 --> 01:41:11,827 Speaker 2: do you think open side flanka is where you're best 1980 01:41:11,867 --> 01:41:13,307 Speaker 2: suited in the fifteens game right now? 1981 01:41:14,787 --> 01:41:14,987 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1982 01:41:15,067 --> 01:41:16,467 Speaker 16: I love playing open side flank. 1983 01:41:16,507 --> 01:41:18,747 Speaker 8: If I get too far away from the ball, I 1984 01:41:19,107 --> 01:41:20,787 Speaker 8: don't enjoy it as much, so I like to be 1985 01:41:20,907 --> 01:41:23,867 Speaker 8: around about. But yeah, I'll be open to play in 1986 01:41:23,947 --> 01:41:28,147 Speaker 8: the bags, but for me, probably flankers where I. 1987 01:41:28,227 --> 01:41:31,627 Speaker 2: Am for now fair enough. And what are the specific 1988 01:41:31,707 --> 01:41:34,747 Speaker 2: strengths of your sevens game that you feel you can 1989 01:41:34,987 --> 01:41:37,027 Speaker 2: bring most effectively into fifteens. 1990 01:41:37,747 --> 01:41:41,987 Speaker 8: Yeah, probably just my ability to turn over ball at 1991 01:41:42,027 --> 01:41:45,587 Speaker 8: breakdown would be one. And then trying to feel at 1992 01:41:45,667 --> 01:41:48,587 Speaker 8: myself through small gaps on attack. I'm lucky enough that 1993 01:41:48,707 --> 01:41:51,067 Speaker 8: I can attack on the edges of flankers, so that 1994 01:41:51,187 --> 01:41:53,027 Speaker 8: allows me to open up and it's a bit more 1995 01:41:53,147 --> 01:41:53,827 Speaker 8: sevens like. 1996 01:41:54,867 --> 01:41:56,867 Speaker 16: But yeah, just for a few more people immedly. 1997 01:41:57,227 --> 01:41:59,107 Speaker 2: Of course, there are a few of you who have 1998 01:41:59,227 --> 01:42:02,027 Speaker 2: come across from the sevens game and been selected for 1999 01:42:02,587 --> 01:42:06,947 Speaker 2: this Rugby World Cup squad. Was there any awkwardness around 2000 01:42:06,987 --> 01:42:09,587 Speaker 2: that Georgia you know seven's players dropping into the fifteens 2001 01:42:09,667 --> 01:42:12,947 Speaker 2: environment and I guess taking the places of some players 2002 01:42:12,947 --> 01:42:13,907 Speaker 2: for this World Cup squad. 2003 01:42:15,587 --> 01:42:18,707 Speaker 8: Now, the fifteenth girls and the whole squad was really 2004 01:42:19,107 --> 01:42:22,467 Speaker 8: welcoming and they made sure that they could catch us 2005 01:42:22,507 --> 01:42:24,507 Speaker 8: all up to speed and we knew all our stuff. 2006 01:42:24,547 --> 01:42:27,147 Speaker 8: So I think that's just a reflection of this team 2007 01:42:27,187 --> 01:42:29,627 Speaker 8: and everyone wants, you know, the best for the team. 2008 01:42:29,787 --> 01:42:32,827 Speaker 8: So yeah, it's been really nice and the transition was 2009 01:42:32,867 --> 01:42:35,267 Speaker 8: made a lot easier by the girls being so welcoming. 2010 01:42:35,507 --> 01:42:39,347 Speaker 2: Good to hear that try you scored against Australia in 2011 01:42:39,467 --> 01:42:43,027 Speaker 2: Wellington last month. Every time I watch it it looks better. 2012 01:42:43,587 --> 01:42:45,947 Speaker 2: What are the pictures that you saw and what were 2013 01:42:45,987 --> 01:42:48,627 Speaker 2: the thoughts in your head when you collected that ball 2014 01:42:48,667 --> 01:42:51,107 Speaker 2: from a dropout on what about the ten meter line 2015 01:42:51,187 --> 01:42:53,027 Speaker 2: just inside your own half pick it up from there? 2016 01:42:54,227 --> 01:42:56,787 Speaker 8: Well, initially I was like, if they kick it to me, 2017 01:42:56,827 --> 01:42:58,547 Speaker 8: I'm just going to run because the time before that 2018 01:42:58,667 --> 01:43:02,267 Speaker 8: I passed it to Leana, So I'm just going to run. 2019 01:43:02,347 --> 01:43:04,627 Speaker 16: I just have a go and so I kind of 2020 01:43:04,667 --> 01:43:07,267 Speaker 16: started running and then I saw one of our prop 2021 01:43:07,347 --> 01:43:09,507 Speaker 16: standing there. I was like, I'll just run at her, 2022 01:43:09,587 --> 01:43:12,587 Speaker 16: and then yeah, I kind of just I don't know, 2023 01:43:12,707 --> 01:43:14,707 Speaker 16: it's just nothing. I was through the gaps. 2024 01:43:14,787 --> 01:43:15,547 Speaker 19: I was stoked. 2025 01:43:15,667 --> 01:43:19,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, magnificent stuff. Are you aware of of what you're 2026 01:43:19,907 --> 01:43:21,747 Speaker 2: doing in the moment or do you do you have 2027 01:43:21,827 --> 01:43:23,667 Speaker 2: to look back afterwards like, oh that's right, Yeah, I 2028 01:43:23,747 --> 01:43:24,787 Speaker 2: beat that many defenders. 2029 01:43:26,467 --> 01:43:27,387 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's funny, like. 2030 01:43:27,547 --> 01:43:31,227 Speaker 8: I could do something, someone could ask me straight after 2031 01:43:31,387 --> 01:43:33,387 Speaker 8: what I did, but like I just kind of forget. 2032 01:43:33,507 --> 01:43:35,707 Speaker 8: So I'm a pretty player in the moment, kind of 2033 01:43:36,547 --> 01:43:39,867 Speaker 8: player which you know has its good and bads, but no, 2034 01:43:40,027 --> 01:43:41,307 Speaker 8: I just you know, play. 2035 01:43:41,147 --> 01:43:41,707 Speaker 16: What's in front. 2036 01:43:42,467 --> 01:43:46,107 Speaker 2: You've won many times on the World seven's circuit, Georgia 2037 01:43:46,227 --> 01:43:49,147 Speaker 2: Olympic gold of course, with the Black Fern sevens in 2038 01:43:49,227 --> 01:43:52,307 Speaker 2: Paris last year. How different does this feel though, heading 2039 01:43:52,347 --> 01:43:54,627 Speaker 2: off to a fifteen's Rugby World Cup. 2040 01:43:55,827 --> 01:43:58,067 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's pretty weird. Like at the moment, I think 2041 01:43:58,867 --> 01:44:00,067 Speaker 16: it doesn't really feel real. 2042 01:44:00,147 --> 01:44:02,427 Speaker 8: I think when we get over to England, you know, 2043 01:44:02,587 --> 01:44:03,187 Speaker 8: there'll be all. 2044 01:44:03,187 --> 01:44:07,107 Speaker 16: The branding posters and a lot of chat it over there, 2045 01:44:07,187 --> 01:44:10,067 Speaker 16: which I think then it will sink him. But yeah, 2046 01:44:10,147 --> 01:44:13,707 Speaker 16: I'm excited. I think I'm being good in the Olympics 2047 01:44:13,747 --> 01:44:16,427 Speaker 16: and playing in that last year that has really prepared 2048 01:44:16,507 --> 01:44:20,347 Speaker 16: me for a moment like this, So yeah, I'm ready. 2049 01:44:21,147 --> 01:44:24,187 Speaker 2: The vibe in the room when the squad was announced. 2050 01:44:24,187 --> 01:44:25,747 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be there on Upperhart a 2051 01:44:25,787 --> 01:44:28,347 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when when the squad was announced 2052 01:44:28,347 --> 01:44:31,267 Speaker 2: and you all came in with members of your family 2053 01:44:31,347 --> 01:44:34,747 Speaker 2: and loved ones. What was that day like for you? 2054 01:44:36,307 --> 01:44:37,227 Speaker 16: It was really special. 2055 01:44:37,307 --> 01:44:40,507 Speaker 8: I think having everybody's family there as well, just you know, 2056 01:44:40,667 --> 01:44:44,987 Speaker 8: seeing them connect and we having an opportunity to do. 2057 01:44:45,107 --> 01:44:47,867 Speaker 16: That was really special. And just being up on that 2058 01:44:47,947 --> 01:44:50,827 Speaker 16: stage with the girls and knowing what they've had to 2059 01:44:50,907 --> 01:44:53,107 Speaker 16: do to get to that moment, and it was really special. 2060 01:44:53,147 --> 01:44:57,067 Speaker 8: And they're just looking around probably excited me and like, 2061 01:44:57,187 --> 01:44:59,547 Speaker 8: we've got so much talent in our group that I 2062 01:44:59,667 --> 01:45:01,387 Speaker 8: think we've been really do a good job at this 2063 01:45:01,467 --> 01:45:01,907 Speaker 8: World Cup. 2064 01:45:02,067 --> 01:45:04,507 Speaker 2: I'm sure you will. And You've been the subject of 2065 01:45:04,787 --> 01:45:08,467 Speaker 2: an eight part document ntry series which is about to screen. 2066 01:45:08,507 --> 01:45:11,387 Speaker 2: It's called Triple Threat. It follows your journey as well 2067 01:45:11,427 --> 01:45:15,307 Speaker 2: as those of Maya, Joseph and Caitlin call Always you 2068 01:45:15,387 --> 01:45:17,307 Speaker 2: prepare for your first Rugby World Cup. So what have 2069 01:45:17,387 --> 01:45:19,867 Speaker 2: the camera's just been following you around for the last 2070 01:45:19,907 --> 01:45:20,627 Speaker 2: six months. 2071 01:45:22,587 --> 01:45:22,667 Speaker 3: Now? 2072 01:45:22,867 --> 01:45:25,067 Speaker 16: The cameras pop up here and there. 2073 01:45:25,107 --> 01:45:27,907 Speaker 8: It's actually been really cool, and I think when the 2074 01:45:28,067 --> 01:45:31,947 Speaker 8: doco comes out, like it's just nice to see people 2075 01:45:32,507 --> 01:45:34,907 Speaker 8: outside of rugby, Like there's a lot more to it 2076 01:45:35,027 --> 01:45:37,187 Speaker 8: than I guess a lot of people know. So I'm 2077 01:45:37,547 --> 01:45:40,707 Speaker 8: really excited for people to see that side of US 2078 01:45:40,787 --> 01:45:42,227 Speaker 8: three and the team. 2079 01:45:42,347 --> 01:45:43,627 Speaker 1: So it would be good. 2080 01:45:43,867 --> 01:45:46,147 Speaker 2: It should be good. So there's obviously rugby footage and 2081 01:45:46,427 --> 01:45:48,307 Speaker 2: training footage and stuff, But what do the cameras just 2082 01:45:48,347 --> 01:45:50,267 Speaker 2: sort of follow you twenty four to seven, like when 2083 01:45:50,307 --> 01:45:51,587 Speaker 2: you went to the shops and things like that. 2084 01:45:52,387 --> 01:45:56,867 Speaker 8: No, we kind of just have shit times or moments 2085 01:45:56,947 --> 01:45:59,547 Speaker 8: that they want to film, so they're like, I don't know, 2086 01:45:59,667 --> 01:46:01,627 Speaker 8: they came down to my house at home and just 2087 01:46:01,707 --> 01:46:04,027 Speaker 8: interviewed my parents and just different things like that. So 2088 01:46:04,387 --> 01:46:06,987 Speaker 8: we're lucky that the camera's aren't with us to seven. 2089 01:46:07,627 --> 01:46:11,067 Speaker 2: We can have a break, which isn't It's good to hear. 2090 01:46:11,187 --> 01:46:12,987 Speaker 2: So have you seen the finished product? 2091 01:46:13,707 --> 01:46:18,267 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've seen a couple episodes, which, yeah, it's so 2092 01:46:18,427 --> 01:46:21,267 Speaker 8: cool to say it all come together after everyone's. 2093 01:46:20,867 --> 01:46:22,747 Speaker 16: Put a lot of worse than effid into it, so 2094 01:46:23,547 --> 01:46:25,467 Speaker 16: hopefully everyone else enjoys watching it. 2095 01:46:25,707 --> 01:46:29,187 Speaker 2: I'm sure we will. And just to finish, Georgia heading 2096 01:46:29,227 --> 01:46:31,587 Speaker 2: off soon as I say, have you let yourself think 2097 01:46:31,587 --> 01:46:34,147 Speaker 2: about what it might be like to go deep, deep 2098 01:46:34,307 --> 01:46:37,427 Speaker 2: into this tournament and who knows even emulate what the 2099 01:46:37,467 --> 01:46:39,827 Speaker 2: Black Ferns did on home soil at the back end 2100 01:46:39,867 --> 01:46:40,747 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two. 2101 01:46:41,867 --> 01:46:42,467 Speaker 16: Yeah, definitely. 2102 01:46:42,507 --> 01:46:44,707 Speaker 8: I think probably the legacy of this jusey and of 2103 01:46:44,787 --> 01:46:49,667 Speaker 8: this team comes a lot of success, So have thought further, 2104 01:46:49,947 --> 01:46:51,827 Speaker 8: like obviously we need to get a lot of jobs 2105 01:46:51,867 --> 01:46:55,747 Speaker 8: done first, but just you know, dreams and imagining what 2106 01:46:55,867 --> 01:46:58,307 Speaker 8: it could be like or who we could be playing 2107 01:46:58,387 --> 01:46:59,107 Speaker 8: and stuff. 2108 01:46:59,027 --> 01:47:00,867 Speaker 16: Is Yeah, it's going to be cool. 2109 01:47:01,027 --> 01:47:03,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we're all very excited about watching you guys 2110 01:47:03,747 --> 01:47:06,267 Speaker 2: play Middle of the Night over here, of course, twelve 2111 01:47:06,387 --> 01:47:08,907 Speaker 2: thousand miles away, but we're getting up and look forward 2112 01:47:08,907 --> 01:47:11,067 Speaker 2: to watching how you go at the Rugby World Cup. 2113 01:47:11,107 --> 01:47:12,667 Speaker 2: All the best year in the team, Georgia, thanks for 2114 01:47:12,667 --> 01:47:15,707 Speaker 2: your time this afternoon, Awes, Thank you very much, Thank you, Georgia. 2115 01:47:15,747 --> 01:47:18,627 Speaker 2: Georgia Miller there part of the Black Ferns squad they 2116 01:47:18,747 --> 01:47:21,187 Speaker 2: head off. I think it might be Tuesday or Wednesday 2117 01:47:21,347 --> 01:47:24,147 Speaker 2: they head away. The first game at the Rugby World 2118 01:47:24,187 --> 01:47:27,187 Speaker 2: Cup is four thirty in the morning on Monday, August 2119 01:47:27,227 --> 01:47:31,627 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth. So what's that tomorrow fortnightth Does that 2120 01:47:31,667 --> 01:47:33,907 Speaker 2: sound right? Yeah, tomorrow's the eleventh year, twenty fifth, So 2121 01:47:34,027 --> 01:47:37,587 Speaker 2: two weeks tomorrow they take on Spain, then Japan the 2122 01:47:37,667 --> 01:47:40,187 Speaker 2: following Monday, that's at one o'clock in the morning, and 2123 01:47:40,307 --> 01:47:43,187 Speaker 2: then Ireland, who will probably be the stiffest competition in 2124 01:47:43,267 --> 01:47:46,587 Speaker 2: New Zealand's group, the following Monday, September the eighth, at 2125 01:47:46,627 --> 01:47:48,987 Speaker 2: one forty five. So those are the three Paul games 2126 01:47:49,027 --> 01:47:54,587 Speaker 2: on three consecutive Mondays, and it's a pretty simple format. 2127 01:47:54,627 --> 01:47:58,347 Speaker 2: There are four pauls of four top two into the quarterfinals, 2128 01:47:58,707 --> 01:48:03,067 Speaker 2: semifinals and the final. Nathan says there's a future captain. 2129 01:48:03,147 --> 01:48:03,347 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2130 01:48:03,907 --> 01:48:06,627 Speaker 2: Georgia Miller is an interesting case, isn't she? Because she's 2131 01:48:06,747 --> 01:48:10,907 Speaker 2: so good at sevens, so good, but anyone who saw 2132 01:48:10,987 --> 01:48:14,907 Speaker 2: her paid two rugby tests for the Black Ferns, one 2133 01:48:14,947 --> 01:48:17,867 Speaker 2: of which was that game just played the clip from 2134 01:48:18,147 --> 01:48:21,587 Speaker 2: where she scored that unbelievable try, So it feels as 2135 01:48:21,587 --> 01:48:24,627 Speaker 2: though she could decide what she wants to do, and 2136 01:48:24,787 --> 01:48:28,427 Speaker 2: it's not unusual for players to go back and forth, 2137 01:48:28,827 --> 01:48:31,867 Speaker 2: especially in the women's game between sevens and fifteen. She's 2138 01:48:31,867 --> 01:48:33,627 Speaker 2: going to be huge at this World Cup for US 2139 01:48:35,107 --> 01:48:38,347 Speaker 2: Triple Threat. I talked to Georgia about this docco. It's 2140 01:48:38,547 --> 01:48:42,147 Speaker 2: an eight part series follows her journey as well as 2141 01:48:42,227 --> 01:48:46,587 Speaker 2: those journeys of Maya, Joseph and Caitlin va calall who 2142 01:48:46,627 --> 01:48:48,547 Speaker 2: are part of this team too, taking on their very 2143 01:48:48,587 --> 01:48:51,587 Speaker 2: first Rugby World Cup. Goes behind the scenes, captures all 2144 01:48:51,667 --> 01:48:56,867 Speaker 2: sorts of things as these three confront intense national expectations 2145 01:48:56,907 --> 01:48:59,267 Speaker 2: and the pressure of elite sport, both on and off 2146 01:48:59,307 --> 01:49:02,267 Speaker 2: the field. It's a fresh, positive insight and a personal 2147 01:49:02,347 --> 01:49:03,987 Speaker 2: one two into what it means to be a young 2148 01:49:04,067 --> 01:49:07,387 Speaker 2: female athlete today. The first episode you can catch on 2149 01:49:07,627 --> 01:49:12,147 Speaker 2: endztr Plus, which is New Zealand Rugby's digital content platform. 2150 01:49:12,427 --> 01:49:16,147 Speaker 2: Six o'clock this coming Wednesday is when that drops. It'll 2151 01:49:16,187 --> 01:49:19,547 Speaker 2: also screen on Skygo and skysport Now from the thirteenth 2152 01:49:19,587 --> 01:49:24,227 Speaker 2: of August and episodes weekly on Sky Open from the 2153 01:49:24,307 --> 01:49:27,587 Speaker 2: twenty seventh of August. So looking forward to seeing Triple 2154 01:49:27,707 --> 01:49:31,307 Speaker 2: Threat following the journeys of Georgia Miller, Maya Joseph and 2155 01:49:31,467 --> 01:49:37,147 Speaker 2: Caitlin Acoll. The Stealers have pulled one back a try 2156 01:49:37,227 --> 01:49:40,187 Speaker 2: that is a converted try against the Steamers at poker Co. 2157 01:49:40,507 --> 01:49:43,107 Speaker 2: Half an hour gone there Bay have plenty lead Counties 2158 01:49:43,147 --> 01:49:46,707 Speaker 2: by fourteen points to seven. As far as the Pharah 2159 01:49:46,747 --> 01:49:49,067 Speaker 2: Palmer Cup is concerned, getting towards the end of the 2160 01:49:49,067 --> 01:49:52,827 Speaker 2: game between Canterbury and Mulaw two in christ Church's five 2161 01:49:52,867 --> 01:49:55,387 Speaker 2: minutes to go, Canterbury lead that one thirty two points 2162 01:49:55,427 --> 01:49:58,627 Speaker 2: to five and down in Dunedin North Harbor with a 2163 01:49:58,667 --> 01:50:01,187 Speaker 2: fourteen to twelve lead after half an hour over the 2164 01:50:01,267 --> 01:50:04,987 Speaker 2: home side Otago. We'll take another break when we come back. 2165 01:50:05,027 --> 01:50:07,947 Speaker 2: It's to basketball we go. So Saudi Arabia is the 2166 01:50:08,067 --> 01:50:12,587 Speaker 2: venue Jetta Saudi Arabia for the Asian Cup the Fever 2167 01:50:12,827 --> 01:50:15,747 Speaker 2: Asian Cup. The Tall Blacks have gone three from three 2168 01:50:15,947 --> 01:50:20,667 Speaker 2: in pool play and qualified directly for the quarterfinals courtesy 2169 01:50:20,907 --> 01:50:23,627 Speaker 2: of their latest victory against Chinese Taipei this morning. A 2170 01:50:23,907 --> 01:50:27,307 Speaker 2: very very good all round team performance. Key member of 2171 01:50:27,387 --> 01:50:30,347 Speaker 2: the team Flynn Cameron is with us after this on 2172 01:50:30,467 --> 01:50:33,267 Speaker 2: Weekend Sport, the big. 2173 01:50:33,187 --> 01:50:36,947 Speaker 1: Issues on and after field call eight hundred eighty ten 2174 01:50:36,987 --> 01:50:40,827 Speaker 1: eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Fain and GJ. Gunner Homes 2175 01:50:41,027 --> 01:50:44,347 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home, Milder News Talks, abb. 2176 01:50:44,667 --> 01:50:47,947 Speaker 2: Bang on two forty on News Talks, d B three 2177 01:50:48,267 --> 01:50:51,227 Speaker 2: from three for the Tall Blacks and group play at 2178 01:50:51,307 --> 01:50:53,267 Speaker 2: Basketball's feb Asian Cup. 2179 01:50:53,947 --> 01:50:54,227 Speaker 19: Wow. 2180 01:50:55,507 --> 01:50:59,267 Speaker 3: All I can say is this turndent of pretty significant 2181 01:51:00,067 --> 01:51:02,907 Speaker 3: high scoring win for his zealing my goodness. 2182 01:51:02,867 --> 01:51:07,027 Speaker 2: A very comprehensive one hundred and eighteen to two seventy 2183 01:51:07,107 --> 01:51:11,067 Speaker 2: eight win over Chinese Taipei. It was a bit of 2184 01:51:11,147 --> 01:51:15,387 Speaker 2: a cagey start, a close first quarter which the Tall 2185 01:51:15,427 --> 01:51:19,587 Speaker 2: Blacks led nineteen eighteen after and then they stretched their 2186 01:51:19,627 --> 01:51:21,387 Speaker 2: legs in the second and third quarters and ended up 2187 01:51:21,387 --> 01:51:25,707 Speaker 2: winning by forty points. Very comprehensive. They go straight into 2188 01:51:25,787 --> 01:51:29,507 Speaker 2: the quarter finals as a result of finishing top of 2189 01:51:29,547 --> 01:51:33,147 Speaker 2: their pool. Point Guard Flynn Cameron, Yep, you'll recognize the surname. 2190 01:51:33,187 --> 01:51:36,587 Speaker 2: He's Pedo Cameron's son, of course, top scored for New 2191 01:51:36,667 --> 01:51:38,827 Speaker 2: Zealand with twenty eight points and he joins us now. 2192 01:51:39,147 --> 01:51:43,427 Speaker 2: Flynn congratulations on the win and completing a clean sweep. 2193 01:51:43,507 --> 01:51:46,507 Speaker 2: And Paul play three from three was this the team's 2194 01:51:46,547 --> 01:51:48,547 Speaker 2: best performance of the tournament so far. 2195 01:51:48,667 --> 01:51:51,667 Speaker 4: Do you think I know how to answer that question. 2196 01:51:51,747 --> 01:51:53,467 Speaker 4: To be honest, I thought we did do well as 2197 01:51:53,467 --> 01:51:56,147 Speaker 4: a team. I thought we kept the intensely Wena come 2198 01:51:56,187 --> 01:51:59,267 Speaker 4: out great the first quarter, but we. 2199 01:52:00,067 --> 01:52:00,547 Speaker 5: Stuck with it. 2200 01:52:00,747 --> 01:52:04,827 Speaker 4: Sevend quarter. That'll good lead to fourth quarter that want 2201 01:52:04,827 --> 01:52:06,147 Speaker 4: to play us? By that time we kind of ran 2202 01:52:06,227 --> 01:52:08,387 Speaker 4: him the germ. So yeah, it was just good capitalyzed 2203 01:52:08,427 --> 01:52:11,467 Speaker 4: on that. But all in all, all the boys performed 2204 01:52:11,507 --> 01:52:12,387 Speaker 4: well across the board. 2205 01:52:13,147 --> 01:52:15,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, tight first quarter, as you say, just nineteen eighteen 2206 01:52:16,387 --> 01:52:18,867 Speaker 2: at quarter time, what do you think it took you 2207 01:52:18,867 --> 01:52:20,187 Speaker 2: a bit of time to get into the game. 2208 01:52:21,347 --> 01:52:26,787 Speaker 4: Probably just adjusting, Probably just adjusting to how how slow 2209 01:52:26,827 --> 01:52:28,347 Speaker 4: they wanted to play and we wanted to get out 2210 01:52:28,387 --> 01:52:30,787 Speaker 4: and they're pretty taxical at that point. And then also 2211 01:52:31,267 --> 01:52:34,347 Speaker 4: with a late night game eleven o'clock, you know, we 2212 01:52:34,427 --> 01:52:36,347 Speaker 4: had the energy flowing, but it was nothing compared to 2213 01:52:36,427 --> 01:52:39,187 Speaker 4: the Philippines game. Philippines put the energy, they had the crowd, 2214 01:52:39,667 --> 01:52:43,147 Speaker 4: so it was more us just adjusting to new circumstances, 2215 01:52:43,267 --> 01:52:46,507 Speaker 4: not having a big crowd being you know, we just 2216 01:52:46,627 --> 01:52:48,907 Speaker 4: have to rely on one another bringing that energy and 2217 01:52:49,267 --> 01:52:52,547 Speaker 4: once we realize that it was you know, I mean 2218 01:52:52,667 --> 01:52:54,627 Speaker 4: the scoreboard dictated that how. 2219 01:52:54,547 --> 01:52:56,267 Speaker 2: Do you adjust to a team that wants to slow 2220 01:52:56,307 --> 01:52:57,787 Speaker 2: things down like Chohinese type painted. 2221 01:52:59,827 --> 01:53:02,107 Speaker 4: We use our energy on defense, We knuckle down, we'd 2222 01:53:02,147 --> 01:53:07,027 Speaker 4: be vocal, our closeouts improved. We we just feed off 2223 01:53:07,027 --> 01:53:09,467 Speaker 4: each other's energy. You know, you can just you can 2224 01:53:09,547 --> 01:53:12,107 Speaker 4: just tell when one guy wants to guide the ball. 2225 01:53:12,427 --> 01:53:17,187 Speaker 4: Everyone climbs in and pay by play, possession by a position. 2226 01:53:17,307 --> 01:53:20,507 Speaker 4: You just start to feeling it and the next thing 2227 01:53:20,547 --> 01:53:22,947 Speaker 4: you know, we out running turn the lobs is good. 2228 01:53:23,387 --> 01:53:26,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at rebound numbers here and I know 2229 01:53:26,187 --> 01:53:28,107 Speaker 2: they only tell some of the story about sixty one, 2230 01:53:28,227 --> 01:53:31,427 Speaker 2: twenty two in your favor forty two at the defensive end. 2231 01:53:31,467 --> 01:53:34,307 Speaker 2: You must be stoked without your dominated the boards tonight. 2232 01:53:34,707 --> 01:53:35,947 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did amazing. 2233 01:53:36,027 --> 01:53:39,187 Speaker 4: We kept them to one shot, and there was always 2234 01:53:39,267 --> 01:53:43,267 Speaker 4: tough contested shots. We had our we had our scout 2235 01:53:43,707 --> 01:53:47,987 Speaker 4: and play making. The best players take tough contested shots, 2236 01:53:48,427 --> 01:53:50,747 Speaker 4: and even there lesser players take take shots. 2237 01:53:50,827 --> 01:53:53,427 Speaker 5: And then from there we just know we just got 2238 01:53:53,507 --> 01:53:54,027 Speaker 5: a box out of. 2239 01:53:54,027 --> 01:53:57,707 Speaker 4: Big seven foot and maintain those rebounds, and then that 2240 01:53:57,867 --> 01:53:58,627 Speaker 4: leads to our office. 2241 01:53:59,307 --> 01:53:59,827 Speaker 13: So it's good. 2242 01:54:00,787 --> 01:54:02,667 Speaker 2: Your stat line flown I know you probably don't want 2243 01:54:02,667 --> 01:54:04,667 Speaker 2: to talk about yourself too much, but twenty eight points 2244 01:54:04,787 --> 01:54:07,787 Speaker 2: nine rebounds ata sust couple of deals. How placed are 2245 01:54:07,867 --> 01:54:09,507 Speaker 2: you with the way you play personally? 2246 01:54:11,187 --> 01:54:11,347 Speaker 13: Uh? 2247 01:54:11,947 --> 01:54:14,227 Speaker 4: I mean it's a good, good performance, but you always 2248 01:54:14,227 --> 01:54:16,587 Speaker 4: look at you always look at go back to the film. 2249 01:54:16,627 --> 01:54:19,347 Speaker 4: So I'm never gonna be too high about that line. 2250 01:54:19,347 --> 01:54:21,027 Speaker 4: I'm always gonna look back at the film, look at 2251 01:54:21,307 --> 01:54:23,467 Speaker 4: what I can improve on. And yeah, at the end 2252 01:54:23,467 --> 01:54:26,067 Speaker 4: of the day, we came Today's a cup with one 2253 01:54:26,147 --> 01:54:28,147 Speaker 4: goal of mine. Then that's to win gold. And we're 2254 01:54:28,187 --> 01:54:31,147 Speaker 4: not gonna be satisfied to you know, to that last day. 2255 01:54:31,627 --> 01:54:33,627 Speaker 4: Hope we were in that Grand Final game and we'll 2256 01:54:33,627 --> 01:54:34,467 Speaker 4: see what happens from there. 2257 01:54:34,827 --> 01:54:37,067 Speaker 2: Well, let's victory takes you straight into the quart of finals. 2258 01:54:37,107 --> 01:54:39,067 Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about qualification around to make 2259 01:54:39,147 --> 01:54:42,467 Speaker 2: the last night. Uh, how big a how big an 2260 01:54:42,467 --> 01:54:44,427 Speaker 2: advantage is that you get a few days off now 2261 01:54:44,627 --> 01:54:45,907 Speaker 2: to prepare for the quarter finals. 2262 01:54:46,187 --> 01:54:49,107 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's huge, huge advantage, especially the way we played. 2263 01:54:49,507 --> 01:54:49,907 Speaker 5: We play. 2264 01:54:50,827 --> 01:54:55,107 Speaker 4: We play ten eleven guys, but where we're running the 2265 01:54:55,147 --> 01:54:58,187 Speaker 4: whole time, we're playing food court defense. You know, on 2266 01:54:58,227 --> 01:55:00,107 Speaker 4: the rise of the shop we're Jammy too. We'll play 2267 01:55:00,187 --> 01:55:04,187 Speaker 4: we play a very taxing uh game of basketball. 2268 01:55:04,227 --> 01:55:07,227 Speaker 5: But we know that our opernent I don't want to 2269 01:55:07,227 --> 01:55:07,827 Speaker 5: play that style. 2270 01:55:07,867 --> 01:55:09,587 Speaker 4: That's why they always want to sew it down to 2271 01:55:10,587 --> 01:55:13,107 Speaker 4: us getting three days off, just able to focused on 2272 01:55:13,147 --> 01:55:16,707 Speaker 4: our recovery and then get ahead start on our scout, 2273 01:55:16,947 --> 01:55:19,747 Speaker 4: just knowing who we're going to play next, and then yeah, 2274 01:55:19,867 --> 01:55:21,467 Speaker 4: I think that just gives us the advantages. 2275 01:55:22,147 --> 01:55:24,387 Speaker 2: There's some guys on this team from all over the world. 2276 01:55:25,067 --> 01:55:27,107 Speaker 2: How do you how do you see about meshing to 2277 01:55:27,147 --> 01:55:30,387 Speaker 2: get the combinations you know, in a relatively short time. 2278 01:55:31,787 --> 01:55:33,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say we're all from all over the world. 2279 01:55:34,067 --> 01:55:36,027 Speaker 4: But one thing we have in common is, you know, 2280 01:55:36,067 --> 01:55:36,707 Speaker 4: we've all come. 2281 01:55:36,667 --> 01:55:37,187 Speaker 5: Back to play. 2282 01:55:37,867 --> 01:55:41,267 Speaker 4: We know the Tall Blacks culture, the brotherhood. We've all 2283 01:55:41,307 --> 01:55:44,067 Speaker 4: got connections to that family. So I mean, if you 2284 01:55:44,547 --> 01:55:45,987 Speaker 4: you're one of the new guys, we know we've got 2285 01:55:46,027 --> 01:55:48,467 Speaker 4: a couple a couple of players that just came into 2286 01:55:49,187 --> 01:55:53,267 Speaker 4: the team and they're experiencing the culture. But I'd say 2287 01:55:53,267 --> 01:55:58,067 Speaker 4: it becomes relatively easy, you know, when you when you're 2288 01:55:58,107 --> 01:56:01,827 Speaker 4: on long trips such as these ones, it becomes how 2289 01:56:01,867 --> 01:56:05,547 Speaker 4: would you say, pretty easy to just blend and. 2290 01:56:05,627 --> 01:56:06,307 Speaker 5: Be a part of the coach. 2291 01:56:06,707 --> 01:56:09,427 Speaker 4: You know, it's effeless for us being from each other, 2292 01:56:09,627 --> 01:56:12,547 Speaker 4: but say so, we all know each other. You know, 2293 01:56:12,627 --> 01:56:17,027 Speaker 4: basketball is a small world, but I'd say it becomes effortless. 2294 01:56:17,147 --> 01:56:19,467 Speaker 4: You know, you feel like you just something that you've 2295 01:56:19,467 --> 01:56:22,507 Speaker 4: always wanted to do, play high level basketball with guys 2296 01:56:22,547 --> 01:56:24,787 Speaker 4: from the same country as you. 2297 01:56:25,107 --> 01:56:25,427 Speaker 10: Love that. 2298 01:56:25,867 --> 01:56:26,467 Speaker 13: Love that man. 2299 01:56:26,627 --> 01:56:29,107 Speaker 2: Love that three point percentage as well, was good tonight 2300 01:56:29,187 --> 01:56:31,827 Speaker 2: forty four thing more than good forty four percent? How 2301 01:56:31,867 --> 01:56:33,547 Speaker 2: big a stand is that when you're heading, you know, 2302 01:56:33,787 --> 01:56:36,627 Speaker 2: from beyond the arc and able to score and big 2303 01:56:36,667 --> 01:56:37,507 Speaker 2: clumps as a team. 2304 01:56:37,827 --> 01:56:39,067 Speaker 4: As a team, it's amazing. 2305 01:56:39,187 --> 01:56:41,307 Speaker 19: But we we know how good we are. 2306 01:56:41,427 --> 01:56:44,347 Speaker 4: We know each player is capable of hearing those threes. 2307 01:56:44,867 --> 01:56:47,307 Speaker 4: We know the game style. Judd knows the game style 2308 01:56:47,347 --> 01:56:49,187 Speaker 4: that we want to play. That's why recruited guys that 2309 01:56:49,267 --> 01:56:51,467 Speaker 4: can shoot a three and then also be able to 2310 01:56:51,507 --> 01:56:54,467 Speaker 4: penetrate and finish out the room. So yes, you know, 2311 01:56:54,547 --> 01:56:57,707 Speaker 4: it's obviously it's pleasing to see that we're shooting at 2312 01:56:57,787 --> 01:57:00,467 Speaker 4: the at a high percentage, but at the same time, 2313 01:57:00,547 --> 01:57:02,747 Speaker 4: it's we expect that because we know how good we are. 2314 01:57:03,747 --> 01:57:08,067 Speaker 2: Your your free throw routine really interesting. Yeah, just before 2315 01:57:08,107 --> 01:57:10,067 Speaker 2: your shirt, you just is it just you bring your 2316 01:57:10,107 --> 01:57:12,387 Speaker 2: hand down. Is that just to just to calm yourself 2317 01:57:12,427 --> 01:57:13,307 Speaker 2: before you take the shot? 2318 01:57:14,627 --> 01:57:14,987 Speaker 5: Exactly? 2319 01:57:15,067 --> 01:57:18,267 Speaker 4: That exactly that I feel like that's the only time 2320 01:57:18,427 --> 01:57:22,227 Speaker 4: in the game where everything's on your time, you know, 2321 01:57:22,627 --> 01:57:25,867 Speaker 4: so you can really just I just I've been without 2322 01:57:25,907 --> 01:57:28,547 Speaker 4: routine surpass I don't even know since I was the college. 2323 01:57:28,747 --> 01:57:32,147 Speaker 4: Since how that my last year at high school. Instead 2324 01:57:32,147 --> 01:57:34,507 Speaker 4: of rushing it, I just thought, you know what, this 2325 01:57:34,787 --> 01:57:37,907 Speaker 4: is my time to just you know, set her down. 2326 01:57:37,987 --> 01:57:38,947 Speaker 5: And it's just me and the hoop. 2327 01:57:39,907 --> 01:57:42,267 Speaker 2: Well, it's working, man, it's working. How big an influence 2328 01:57:42,267 --> 01:57:43,107 Speaker 2: has your dad been on you? 2329 01:57:44,627 --> 01:57:44,707 Speaker 12: Now? 2330 01:57:44,747 --> 01:57:46,587 Speaker 13: It's been awesome, you know. 2331 01:57:48,027 --> 01:57:50,987 Speaker 4: Ever since a young kid, you know, I've just was 2332 01:57:51,107 --> 01:57:53,147 Speaker 4: all I've known is a Tour Blacks feel us. You know, 2333 01:57:54,267 --> 01:57:57,067 Speaker 4: I'd go watch it. Well, we didn't know much one 2334 01:57:57,107 --> 01:57:58,787 Speaker 4: more growing up. We just knew how dad played for 2335 01:57:58,827 --> 01:58:01,307 Speaker 4: the Tour Black Student, how good he was. But I'd 2336 01:58:01,347 --> 01:58:04,027 Speaker 4: say that's probably his biggest influence on me and my brother, 2337 01:58:04,147 --> 01:58:06,307 Speaker 4: you know, just remaining humble at all times all these 2338 01:58:07,627 --> 01:58:11,587 Speaker 4: uh you know, trying to be present and then trying 2339 01:58:11,587 --> 01:58:15,107 Speaker 4: to always have that uh that ain't goal of mind 2340 01:58:15,627 --> 01:58:19,187 Speaker 4: in terms of us becoming you know, going from gold 2341 01:58:19,467 --> 01:58:20,147 Speaker 4: why can't we win? 2342 01:58:20,747 --> 01:58:21,387 Speaker 5: Why can't we win? 2343 01:58:21,547 --> 01:58:21,587 Speaker 19: Go? 2344 01:58:22,907 --> 01:58:27,947 Speaker 4: So yeah, but definitely the biggest influence on uh myself, 2345 01:58:27,987 --> 01:58:29,667 Speaker 4: say as a basketball player, but also as a man. 2346 01:58:29,827 --> 01:58:32,547 Speaker 4: And then it's just awesome because he's part of the 2347 01:58:32,547 --> 01:58:36,907 Speaker 4: commentary team, so you know, he's never he's never that 2348 01:58:37,027 --> 01:58:37,987 Speaker 4: far from the tall Blacks. 2349 01:58:37,987 --> 01:58:41,107 Speaker 2: To be honest, it's it's sexually really interesting listening to 2350 01:58:41,227 --> 01:58:43,587 Speaker 2: on commentary because I think he's you know, he probably 2351 01:58:43,627 --> 01:58:45,467 Speaker 2: doesn't want to, he probably doesn't want to like, you know, 2352 01:58:45,587 --> 01:58:48,027 Speaker 2: to show favoritism. He hardly talks about you at all. 2353 01:58:48,027 --> 01:58:50,467 Speaker 2: You're getting twenty eight points and he's trying to deflict 2354 01:58:50,707 --> 01:58:51,907 Speaker 2: to other guys on the team. 2355 01:58:52,867 --> 01:58:54,947 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that's my dad. 2356 01:58:55,067 --> 01:58:57,907 Speaker 4: But it's it's funny as just hearing him talk even 2357 01:58:57,947 --> 01:59:00,187 Speaker 4: in the other games, you know, like because he's got 2358 01:59:00,187 --> 01:59:02,507 Speaker 4: a great relationship with all of us. You know, he's 2359 01:59:02,707 --> 01:59:05,947 Speaker 4: he was the head coach previously, and then before the 2360 01:59:06,027 --> 01:59:07,987 Speaker 4: game war giving them dap ups and hugs like not 2361 01:59:08,147 --> 01:59:10,147 Speaker 4: just me. I think the first day when I saw him, 2362 01:59:10,147 --> 01:59:11,707 Speaker 4: I gave him a dap up in a hug. But 2363 01:59:11,787 --> 01:59:13,427 Speaker 4: then right after me, I saw a Dante give him 2364 01:59:13,427 --> 01:59:15,587 Speaker 4: a dap up in a hug, and then Taylor Bric 2365 01:59:15,587 --> 01:59:16,027 Speaker 4: gave him. 2366 01:59:15,907 --> 01:59:16,627 Speaker 5: A dap up in a hug. 2367 01:59:16,667 --> 01:59:19,187 Speaker 4: You know, that's just that Tour Blacks culture. Every time 2368 01:59:19,227 --> 01:59:22,667 Speaker 4: you see uh one of the alumni part of it, 2369 01:59:23,187 --> 01:59:26,027 Speaker 4: you always want to, you know, show respect. And that's 2370 01:59:26,187 --> 01:59:28,947 Speaker 4: that's a big part of the Tour Blacks respect in 2371 01:59:28,987 --> 01:59:31,867 Speaker 4: the past, honoring the prison, setting it up well for the. 2372 01:59:31,867 --> 01:59:34,267 Speaker 2: Future, absolutely right, or I might we'll just for you go. 2373 01:59:34,387 --> 01:59:36,827 Speaker 2: So the next three days or so, you'll you'll have 2374 01:59:36,987 --> 01:59:40,347 Speaker 2: some some refreshment and recuperation, but then you'll you'll look 2375 01:59:40,387 --> 01:59:42,107 Speaker 2: ahead to whoever it is that you got in the 2376 01:59:42,187 --> 01:59:44,947 Speaker 2: quarterfinals and start scouting exactly that. 2377 01:59:45,347 --> 01:59:47,787 Speaker 4: You know, number one goal of mine is just making 2378 01:59:47,787 --> 01:59:50,827 Speaker 4: sure we're all or a healthy or prime now seldery 2379 01:59:50,907 --> 01:59:53,027 Speaker 4: for when when we do play in three days. But 2380 01:59:53,827 --> 01:59:55,947 Speaker 4: number one goal right now is just try to get 2381 01:59:55,987 --> 01:59:58,107 Speaker 4: some great sleep, get some great food into our bodies, 2382 01:59:58,107 --> 01:59:59,587 Speaker 4: and then side the recovery process. 2383 02:00:00,387 --> 02:00:02,947 Speaker 2: Congratch on another great one, Flinn and a great performance 2384 02:00:02,987 --> 02:00:04,627 Speaker 2: from you, MTE. Really appreciate you taking the time for 2385 02:00:04,667 --> 02:00:04,987 Speaker 2: a chat. 2386 02:00:05,667 --> 02:00:05,827 Speaker 19: Big. 2387 02:00:06,907 --> 02:00:08,707 Speaker 2: You have a good day too, although I guess it's 2388 02:00:08,787 --> 02:00:10,307 Speaker 2: night there now you might be off to bed, thanks 2389 02:00:10,347 --> 02:00:15,267 Speaker 2: Flynn Flynn. Cameron there game high twenty eight points as 2390 02:00:15,387 --> 02:00:19,187 Speaker 2: New Zealand beach Chinese Taipei one eighteen seventy eight this morning. 2391 02:00:19,227 --> 02:00:23,147 Speaker 2: His stat lines so good twenty eight points, nine rebounds, 2392 02:00:23,307 --> 02:00:27,187 Speaker 2: eight assists, a couple of steals as well. Mahave King 2393 02:00:27,707 --> 02:00:29,227 Speaker 2: was the other one who stood out in terms of 2394 02:00:29,267 --> 02:00:33,867 Speaker 2: the stats twenty two points, eight rebounds, four assists, a 2395 02:00:33,947 --> 02:00:37,707 Speaker 2: steal in a block and just contributions you know here 2396 02:00:37,787 --> 02:00:39,907 Speaker 2: and there. Max Darling with nine points, Ben gold Good 2397 02:00:39,947 --> 02:00:43,227 Speaker 2: ta Wa Boy fourteen points for him, Taylor Britt with 2398 02:00:43,387 --> 02:00:46,187 Speaker 2: fourteen points. So it's a real team effort for this 2399 02:00:46,667 --> 02:00:49,387 Speaker 2: tall black side. So as mentioned, what that does is 2400 02:00:49,907 --> 02:00:54,347 Speaker 2: qualify them direct for the quarterfinals. The way this tournament 2401 02:00:54,427 --> 02:00:56,347 Speaker 2: is set up as there are four groups of four, 2402 02:00:57,067 --> 02:00:59,707 Speaker 2: the top side in each of the groups goes directly 2403 02:00:59,787 --> 02:01:02,707 Speaker 2: into the quarterfinals and the teams that finish second and 2404 02:01:02,867 --> 02:01:06,827 Speaker 2: third go into some sudden death qualification to make it 2405 02:01:06,947 --> 02:01:11,227 Speaker 2: through to the quarterfinals. And just checking the schedule, New 2406 02:01:11,307 --> 02:01:15,747 Speaker 2: Zealand's quarter final isn't until Thursday, so what over today Sunday? 2407 02:01:16,147 --> 02:01:18,227 Speaker 2: So they've got a bit of time to, as Flynt said, 2408 02:01:18,307 --> 02:01:22,547 Speaker 2: to refresh and recuperate and then to scout whoever as 2409 02:01:22,587 --> 02:01:24,067 Speaker 2: they will be playing. They won't know that of course 2410 02:01:24,147 --> 02:01:27,667 Speaker 2: until after those qualification games, but they are through directly 2411 02:01:27,747 --> 02:01:31,387 Speaker 2: to the quarterfinals, as are China. Australia are looking good 2412 02:01:31,507 --> 02:01:33,787 Speaker 2: as well. They've got one more game to go tomorrow. 2413 02:01:34,507 --> 02:01:37,067 Speaker 2: They will probably also go straight through to the quarterfinals 2414 02:01:37,187 --> 02:01:39,987 Speaker 2: and would be you'd have to think the favorite for 2415 02:01:40,067 --> 02:01:41,667 Speaker 2: the whole thing. But I just loved the way Flynn 2416 02:01:41,667 --> 02:01:44,747 Speaker 2: Cameron was talking there. We had to win it, we 2417 02:01:44,867 --> 02:01:46,547 Speaker 2: had to win the Asia carp and why can't we? 2418 02:01:47,267 --> 02:01:49,787 Speaker 2: I watched them play this morning and yeah, Chinese Taipei 2419 02:01:49,867 --> 02:01:51,947 Speaker 2: didn't offer a heck of a lot, but I thought 2420 02:01:52,027 --> 02:01:54,467 Speaker 2: New Zealand were tremendous, really really good. Looking forward to 2421 02:01:54,467 --> 02:01:58,547 Speaker 2: seeing how they go in their quarterfinal on Thursday nine. 2422 02:01:58,587 --> 02:01:59,907 Speaker 2: Away from three News Talks, he'd be. 2423 02:02:01,547 --> 02:02:04,147 Speaker 1: Let's goon from the track fields and the court on 2424 02:02:04,347 --> 02:02:08,307 Speaker 1: your home a thought. Weekends were Jason Vine News. 2425 02:02:08,187 --> 02:02:11,347 Speaker 2: Talksb coming up five to three, our final update on 2426 02:02:11,467 --> 02:02:14,267 Speaker 2: Live Sport before the end of the show halftime in 2427 02:02:14,427 --> 02:02:18,547 Speaker 2: Pooka Coe and the Bunnings MBC match between the Homeside Counties, 2428 02:02:18,587 --> 02:02:20,907 Speaker 2: Monaco and Bay of Plenty, Bay of Plenty twenty one 2429 02:02:20,947 --> 02:02:25,987 Speaker 2: to seven ahead at halftime, so stretching out their lead 2430 02:02:26,107 --> 02:02:29,307 Speaker 2: to fourteen points at halftime. And the Farah Palmer Cup. 2431 02:02:29,347 --> 02:02:34,267 Speaker 2: It's also halftime in Dunedin where the Otago Spirit are 2432 02:02:34,307 --> 02:02:37,547 Speaker 2: taking on the North Harbor High Biscus, and it's North 2433 02:02:37,547 --> 02:02:40,867 Speaker 2: Harbor with a nineteen seventeen lead there at the moment. 2434 02:02:41,547 --> 02:02:42,227 Speaker 13: That is us on. 2435 02:02:42,267 --> 02:02:45,547 Speaker 2: Weekend Sport for today and for the weekend. Thank you 2436 02:02:45,627 --> 02:02:48,307 Speaker 2: so much to Tira for producing the show today, Thank 2437 02:02:48,347 --> 02:02:51,787 Speaker 2: you for listening in and for contributing across not only today, 2438 02:02:51,827 --> 02:02:53,827 Speaker 2: but across the weekend as well. Tim Beverages on the 2439 02:02:53,947 --> 02:02:57,267 Speaker 2: radio after three o'clock with the Weekend Collective. I'm back 2440 02:02:57,307 --> 02:03:00,787 Speaker 2: tomorrow night on Sports Talk taking us out today. Well, 2441 02:03:00,907 --> 02:03:03,947 Speaker 2: the very sad news we've been mentioning this afternoon, the 2442 02:03:04,067 --> 02:03:11,307 Speaker 2: passing of the great Peter Lester, fantastic sailor, absolutely exceptional 2443 02:03:11,947 --> 02:03:16,587 Speaker 2: sailing analyst and commentator, gone far too soon at the 2444 02:03:16,667 --> 02:03:21,387 Speaker 2: age of just seventy. Sailor Peter see tomorrow. 2445 02:03:21,147 --> 02:03:23,387 Speaker 1: Night, happy and you. 2446 02:03:25,827 --> 02:03:29,467 Speaker 2: Rewinding nor for a good. 2447 02:03:32,227 --> 02:04:33,427 Speaker 1: Good For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 2448 02:04:33,587 --> 02:04:36,787 Speaker 1: live to news Talks it B weekends from midday, or 2449 02:04:36,907 --> 02:04:38,787 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio