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Speaker 3: It be get en, Ladies and gentlemen. This is the
Speaker 3: Sports Fix podcast from News Talk ZB. It is for Tuesday,
Speaker 3: the fourth of Mark twenty twenty five. On Darcy Water
Speaker 3: gave around first cab Off the rank on the Fixes,
Speaker 3: head coach of the black Caps ahead of their sing
Speaker 3: final Mantik in South Africa. It's Garry Steve, digital sports
Speaker 3: editor form you said on the Herald, Alex Powell joins
Speaker 3: us in the chamber to chen wag about some big
Speaker 3: sports stories. Oh, share an opinion with you around the
Speaker 3: craziness behind tackle School and how that affected sanctions when
Speaker 3: it comes to red and yellow cards. That's our plan,
Speaker 3: so let's get amongst.
Speaker 1: In other news.
Speaker 3: And in a snapshot of Sport Today, White standing skip
Speaker 3: of season Baits has laid it on the line for
Speaker 3: some of the new blood and the team. They play
Speaker 3: Sri Lanka in a three match ODII series with the
Speaker 3: trier of Emma McLeod, Brie Illing and Izzy Sharp seek
Speaker 3: to make their debuts. There's bring you on the line
Speaker 3: for them. With the World Cup squad for India and
Speaker 3: the Selecta's crosshairs.
Speaker 4: We've had so many people put their hands up in
Speaker 4: domestic cricket with volume of runs taking wickets, so as
Speaker 4: limited opportunities to give people a crack at this level,
Speaker 4: so we get our best World Cup squad.
Speaker 3: Brity have goals, but injury thrown into the mix as well.
Speaker 3: After a four all draw against Adelaide ORFC have last
Speaker 3: max matter, coach Corriker explains, for how long for the
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks. Probably he's done his calf, so
Speaker 3: hopefully he'll be ready once.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Obviously South the Central Coast game, we have a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks off with the international week and should be
Speaker 3: back after that. Dan Hockey and ZED have to be
Speaker 3: measured when it comes to the blackstick funding. The women
Speaker 3: have won the Nation's Cup and now qualify for the
Speaker 3: Pro League, but can Hockey afford it? In Mapleston talks
Speaker 3: through the next step.
Speaker 5: Well, the team enjoy this moment and then when they
Speaker 5: get back to New Zealand, we'll have those conversations about,
Speaker 5: you know, whether we can financially afford it, but also
Speaker 5: whether it's the right foot for the program and the
Speaker 5: development of the team as we look towards the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty six World Cup and ultimately the twenty twenty Ola.
Speaker 3: And that's sport today.
Speaker 6: Use Kennedy, It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3: Super Rugby Pacific has been fantastic so far. Defensively not great,
Speaker 3: but on attack sensational. Let's look though, at a real
Speaker 3: bugbear for a lot of people yellow cards. Red cards,
Speaker 3: which of course are a necessary evil in this game.
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the example this week with
Speaker 3: the judiciary in Hoskins SETUTU number eight for the Blues
Speaker 3: after being cited. The Super Rugby Foul Play Review Committee
Speaker 3: found that Hoskins was in contraventional lower nine point one
Speaker 3: three and they suspended him for three matches, which is
Speaker 3: perfectly fine. The tackle itself is a mid range entry
Speaker 3: point and it could have warranted a band of six weeks.
Speaker 3: Here's where things get annoying for me and I'm sure
Speaker 3: for you as well. They take into account his previous
Speaker 3: disciplinary record when deciding how long he sat down for,
Speaker 3: which is understandable, as well as the foul play being
Speaker 3: mitigated by Peter Larkey changing his running line. That understandable
Speaker 3: as well. So they've halved a suspension to three weeks.
Speaker 3: What gets me is this, if Setutu successfully completes World
Speaker 3: Rugby's Coaching Intervention Program, he will drop another week off
Speaker 3: the suspension. He will drop another week off his suspension,
Speaker 3: which takes it down to two weeks. He's basically being
Speaker 3: sent to tackle school. Can you remember a time when
Speaker 3: someone failed tackle school? Can you remember when the judiciary
Speaker 3: came out and said, you know what, he didn't listen,
Speaker 3: he knows how to tackle. Well, we're not entirely sure
Speaker 3: he took anything on board, so we're not going to
Speaker 3: take that week off three weeks. Sit down for you, Hoskins, Setutu.
Speaker 3: It should be mandatory that all of the players, once
Speaker 3: they have committed a tackle that's dragged them in front
Speaker 3: of the judiciary, have to run through World Rugby's Coaching
Speaker 3: Intervention Program Tackle School. They should do that by default,
Speaker 3: and we shouldn't hear about it, and they shouldn't have
Speaker 3: a week taken off their suspension for successfully completing said course.
Speaker 3: Do it complete it, have success, but it should not
Speaker 3: come into any form of judiciary decision when it comes
Speaker 3: to Super Rugby Pacific, just stop it. You know what
Speaker 3: the players have to do, they know how to tackle,
Speaker 3: You know what you have to say to them when
Speaker 3: they catch themselves in trouble. But we don't want to
Speaker 3: hear about it and we don't want it used as
Speaker 3: an excuse to take time off their sanction.
Speaker 6: Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3: A day out from the semi final and the Champions
Speaker 3: Trophy one day tournament up against the South Africans. We
Speaker 3: joined now by black Caps head coach Gary Stead here
Speaker 3: on the Sports FIXE.
Speaker 7: Gary, Hi, Darcy, You'll.
Speaker 3: Be extraordinarily excited about another semi final opportunity in an
Speaker 3: international and ICC event. This has almost become habitual, so
Speaker 3: comfort to a degree for you and your team knowing
Speaker 3: what you face.
Speaker 8: Look, it's always nice to reach the stage of the tournament.
Speaker 8: I think whenever you enter a tournament, you know that
Speaker 8: if you get to the stage, you get to.
Speaker 9: The knockout type round. In a tournament like this, where.
Speaker 8: I guess every result is important, it is important you
Speaker 8: start well and I think our lead into it was
Speaker 8: very good and the way we started against Pakistan was
Speaker 8: great as well, so puts you in I guess, on
Speaker 8: the right foot going into the tournament.
Speaker 9: So look, we're really excited to be here.
Speaker 8: Whenever you get to this stage, you've got i think
Speaker 8: four very very deserving and very good teams that enter
Speaker 8: this final stage. So we'll have an eye on the
Speaker 8: game today in Deafs Australia, but sort of preparing also
Speaker 8: for what we do tomorrow against South Africa.
Speaker 3: You talk about leading and preparation and you Zell and
Speaker 3: Cricket have been accused before of maybe not giving the
Speaker 3: team the best chance to compete in some tournaments, not
Speaker 3: this time around. The lead up, the build up, I
Speaker 3: don't know how pre planned that was, but if you're
Speaker 3: in a position to do well there against the opposition
Speaker 3: you've got it's on a plate for you.
Speaker 9: Gary, Yeah, it was very good prep.
Speaker 8: I mean the tri series we had immediately before was timely.
Speaker 8: I think if you look at the amount of Odie
Speaker 8: Eye cricket that's been played before this by most countries,
Speaker 8: it hasn't been a lot. So I think whenever you
Speaker 8: can get in that same country and play on the
Speaker 8: same pitches that we will play on, absolutely it's in advantage.
Speaker 3: You got beaten by Indie, which means you didn't have
Speaker 3: to play Australia either, or you've got to beat two
Speaker 3: teams to get through and win the trophy. But was
Speaker 3: that a dulling almost? Was that almost necessary for your guys.
Speaker 9: I don't think so.
Speaker 8: I think for large parts of that game we actually
Speaker 8: played some really good cricket.
Speaker 9: I said to the boys.
Speaker 8: I thought it was one of the best fielding displays
Speaker 8: I've ever seen by a Black catch unit.
Speaker 9: I thought this is some sensational catching.
Speaker 8: I thought we stuck really really well to our bowling
Speaker 8: plans as well, and I mean just about on any
Speaker 8: pitch if you can restrict that India team to two
Speaker 8: point fifty and with a little bit of luck, it
Speaker 8: could have been a few less if.
Speaker 9: Pandya didn't get going for example near end. So I
Speaker 9: thought we bowled well.
Speaker 8: We struggled a little bit with Varren Chatravaki as well,
Speaker 8: that a lot of our players hadn't seen before or
Speaker 8: faced live, and he's a bit of a unique spinner
Speaker 8: the way he bowls. But I'm sure if we do
Speaker 8: play India again in the future will be better for
Speaker 8: that experience as well.
Speaker 3: Garristed joining us talking Champions Trophy cricket. What about the
Speaker 3: new captain Mitch Santner. How's his I shouldn't really call
Speaker 3: it an apprenticeship, but he's new in the role as
Speaker 3: the full time captain of the one day side. How's
Speaker 3: that development going for you and the team and him?
Speaker 8: Look, I think Mitch has walked in reasonably seamlessly, to
Speaker 8: be honest, He's obviously has a lot of experience. I
Speaker 8: think he has a lot of mana within our dressing
Speaker 8: room as well, and the way he's been leading the side,
Speaker 8: I think his decision making on the field has been
Speaker 8: on points. So look, I've been really happy with him.
Speaker 8: I know the team's running around him helping where he is,
Speaker 8: but he's still strong enough, intelligent enough to have his
Speaker 8: own ideas out there and put has been on the game.
Speaker 9: So I think that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 8: And a leader, You're looking for someone that will be
Speaker 8: upfront and others and follow and I think his performances
Speaker 8: have been standing up.
Speaker 9: To that test.
Speaker 3: And he can be quite sneaky in his decision making too.
Speaker 3: He's definitely his own captain and his own man. I
Speaker 3: don't think he feels like he's carrying the weight of
Speaker 3: Captain's gone before he knows. It's his opportunity to say, hey,
Speaker 3: this is what I can do, and he's not afraid
Speaker 3: of putting it out there.
Speaker 9: No, that's right.
Speaker 8: And as you say, Mitch is his own man. He's
Speaker 8: got his own thought patterns around how he wants to play.
Speaker 8: And I think he's reading the game very well as well.
Speaker 8: And look, there's always small differences. You might say, did
Speaker 8: you consider this? Would you have tried that? And when
Speaker 8: you have those conversations with Mitch, he is thinking about
Speaker 8: them as well, So it's not just a one way
Speaker 8: or a one style that he has. He's adaptable and
Speaker 8: I guess Malia ball as well. So look, we have
Speaker 8: some very good conversations around the game, the way it's
Speaker 8: been played and the way we want to play as well.
Speaker 8: And I think on the whole we've been sticking to
Speaker 8: that very.
Speaker 3: Well, extraordinary, dangerous, dangerous to underestimate the strength of South Africa.
Speaker 3: Very different team from the team that you played beforehand.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure you're not going into this thinking their
Speaker 3: records no good. When it comes to semi finals, we've
Speaker 3: got this, You've got to understand what they bring. So
Speaker 3: on that, what do they bring, what are their big threats?
Speaker 8: Gary Look, in my opinion though one of the strongest
Speaker 8: teams in the world at the moment. They are very
Speaker 8: very well balanced. They have a very good mix of
Speaker 8: pace bowlers. They have variety and their pace bowlers as
Speaker 8: well left arm, right arm, tall skiddier bowlers, and then
Speaker 8: a couple of spinners and Shamsi and Maharaj who are
Speaker 8: very skillful as well. Their batting has a nice mix.
Speaker 8: I think also of some power the likes of a
Speaker 8: class and a miller who finished games off, but also
Speaker 8: batsmanship at the top to get them to scores. So look,
Speaker 8: in many ways, I look at them and look at
Speaker 8: the makeup of our team and see there's some real
Speaker 8: similarities between them and in the way the games are played.
Speaker 8: So my views, it just comes down to winning key
Speaker 8: moments on the field and holding your nerve under pressure,
Speaker 8: and that's certainly something that we try and do every game,
Speaker 8: but I think when you reach the semi final stage
Speaker 8: it becomes even more important.
Speaker 1: The chamber is now in session on Sports Fix.
Speaker 3: We'll joined in the chamber now by Alex Powell. He's
Speaker 3: the digital sport editor for New Zealand, Harold Welcome on
Speaker 3: into the studio. I trust you.
Speaker 7: Well, good day mate, I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 3: Oh good? I'm still a bit enraged. I'm raged. How's
Speaker 3: the judiciary in super Rugby. I've talked about this in
Speaker 3: my opinion piece, but what is with this go to
Speaker 3: tackle school? I don't understand why it's there. Please shed
Speaker 3: some light on it for me, mate.
Speaker 7: I mean, the short answer is, I'm just like you.
Speaker 7: I've got no idea what it's about. You go and
Speaker 7: you do some World Rugby sanction course where you learn
Speaker 7: how to tackle, because as a professional rugby player, you
Speaker 7: don't know that.
Speaker 3: I suddenly forgot busting off the loose that I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to take a guy's head off.
Speaker 7: I mean, and fair playd to Hoskins too too. The
Speaker 7: review committee found that there was enough mitigation in that
Speaker 7: tackle with Peter Larkeye with Peter Lukey to cut it,
Speaker 7: to cut it from six weeks down to three because
Speaker 7: he had a good record. He's not really a dirty
Speaker 7: player like I feel like if it Coss Coinstad it was,
Speaker 7: we'd know by now. He's been around the scene for
Speaker 7: long enough. But you're right, It just doesn't really make
Speaker 7: too much. And it's like, I'd love to know what
Speaker 7: goes on. Would you you stand around the laptop and
Speaker 7: it shows you one video of a guy tackling someone
Speaker 7: and another guy getting his head taken on the click
Speaker 7: which one is the right thing to do? I mean,
Speaker 7: if it's anything like the videos we have to do
Speaker 7: once a month for HR training, I meant to be
Speaker 7: quite a laugh.
Speaker 3: True, but for them to bring it up, but it's
Speaker 3: them saying, look, we're very much on top of this,
Speaker 3: We're very much across this. That didn't you just doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter. Just started it five weeks and go backwards
Speaker 3: from the don't tell us.
Speaker 7: That recond that hit deserved five weeks.
Speaker 3: Well with mitigating circumstance, maybe it didn't two weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 3: I get it. They've got to put down a line
Speaker 3: in the sand and go, look, it might be a mistake,
Speaker 3: but it's not about why you did it or how
Speaker 3: you went about it. It's about the result of what
Speaker 3: you did. I mean, you can't control all of it.
Speaker 3: So there you go, there's your line on the scene.
Speaker 7: And I think that's what's ultimately happened is they've they've said, look,
Speaker 7: this is dangerous, but we recognize there was not a
Speaker 7: lot you could have done. So we've looked at the
Speaker 7: six week punishment and thought that's probably not fair. We've
Speaker 7: looked at a three week punishment and said, yep, that's
Speaker 7: what it's going to be in reflection of that, and
Speaker 7: then they've gone, but if you do this and show
Speaker 7: us that you are prepared to learn what you did wrong,
Speaker 7: it'll be too.
Speaker 3: Who's ever failed that?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: I mean it's a given right well to learn?
Speaker 1: Surely?
Speaker 7: Is it a pass or fail thing?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 7: You just sit there and watch a DVD?
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say so.
Speaker 7: No one watches DVD and no one fails.
Speaker 3: Right, may either get a beta tape on it? Next?
Speaker 3: We I think, like yourself community in this three for
Speaker 3: what they did in this case, right, what do we
Speaker 3: do here? Here's your starting point that at that, but
Speaker 3: leave the tackles school out of it. Let's go to
Speaker 3: a game where there's no tackling yet.
Speaker 7: New Zealand PCE South Africa.
Speaker 3: You never know, well the semi final here in New
Speaker 3: Zealand find themselves again in a situation where they're in
Speaker 3: a semi final of a major one day tournament or
Speaker 3: an ICC based to theament, probably dodged a bullet by
Speaker 3: losing to India. I'm sure that wasn't the purpose of
Speaker 3: them falling over. But in that case, are we underestimating
Speaker 3: the possibility of South Africa by merely saying dodge the
Speaker 3: bullet with India?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean if the alternative is playing Australia in
Speaker 7: a knockout, then yeah, I think they might have dodged
Speaker 7: a bullet because there's no such thing as a week
Speaker 7: Australian team in a tournament, even though they're missing our
Speaker 7: bowling attack.
Speaker 1: But you're right.
Speaker 7: I look at the South African team and I think
Speaker 7: that's a bloody good team. New Zealand will do well
Speaker 7: to get up here. But we know that South Africa
Speaker 7: fall apart in these situations.
Speaker 3: They've got that record, haven't they.
Speaker 7: I think, what is it, seven semi finals and they've
Speaker 7: only won one.
Speaker 3: And they've also been bounced around the Middle East, and
Speaker 3: that is not ideal. When you look to India and
Speaker 3: the ridiculous power they have over the ICC, the BCCI,
Speaker 3: it's really hard to start. We're not going to Pakistan,
Speaker 3: so we're going to play all of our games here.
Speaker 7: Do we need to explain that what's happened there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do so.
Speaker 7: Right to be as brief as I can, India is
Speaker 7: not going to Pakistan because of the way that the
Speaker 7: tournament was set up. We knew that whoever finished first
Speaker 7: would have to play one plays two versus two plays one.
Speaker 7: We didn't know which of New Zealander India was going
Speaker 7: to finish top of that group. So they flew both
Speaker 7: of the two teams from the other group into to
Speaker 7: Dubai because one of them would have to stay and
Speaker 7: play India and the other one just sort of went
Speaker 7: and did a round trip Pakistan Dubai back to Pakistan.
Speaker 7: That was South Africa. Who are we playing music?
Speaker 3: Not ideal for anyone? Can fast thank you. That's probably
Speaker 3: better than not ideal. The fact that they get so
Speaker 3: many advantages. Let me know, there's issues between Pakistan and India.
Speaker 3: So if you're really that concerned about take don't give
Speaker 3: the hosting rights.
Speaker 7: So Pakistan, I mean, I'm not buying that. Kastan Re
Speaker 7: awarded that tournament or this tournament in November twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7: India didn't say we are definitely not going until Christmas
Speaker 7: Day twenty twenty four. You know, for four years they
Speaker 7: knew this is what the plan is, and then at
Speaker 7: the last minute they said no, we're not going because
Speaker 7: they knew it would screw buck Stanover. That's not on.
Speaker 3: And I think that the more this occurs, the more
Speaker 3: people revel in India when they get wiped out in
Speaker 3: big finals. And let's hope that's the case. First step
Speaker 3: South Africa. Then all well and good, we're going to
Speaker 3: beat up on India on Sunday night or Australia or Australia,
Speaker 3: we don't know, but we're there. We've got a chance.
Speaker 3: Alex Powell's a digital sport editor for it, and he
Speaker 3: said on Herell, thanks very much for your time in
Speaker 3: your opinion.
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