1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: Gray and breast Rich. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 2: Did you know for jury service in New Zealand just 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: gone eighteen after five you have to be sixty five. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: You can't do it. If you're sixty five years or over, 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: you have automatic excusal from jury duty. And Nationally MP 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: wants to change all this and raise the age of 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: people on jury service to seventy two. Their Members Bill 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: has been drawn from the Biscuit Tin at Parliament and 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: that would raise the age of juris to seventy two. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Carl Bates is the National MP for Huangan Nui. His 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Members Bill has just been drawn from the Biscuit Tin. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Carl is with us this evening, Carl, good evening. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Good evening, and happy new Year. Great to be on 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: the show. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Great to have you. So I didn't even know this 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: rule existed. So what happens if you're sixty six and 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: you go into do jury service or you get called 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: up or do you not even get called out? What happens? 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: So just a clarification there, maybe Ryan, So anyone over 20 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: the age of sixty five can still be called for 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: jury duty if on the elector role, they can receive 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: a summons, but they can either automatically get it excused 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: if they choose to exercise this right for an occasion 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: or permanently, so they can say, look, I'm sixty six, 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: to use your example, and I no longer want to 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: be called for jury duty ever in my life and 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: have permanent excuse or from jury duty. 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: Ah, So what you're doing is saying they will have 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: to because at the moment they can opt out, you're 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: saying that they will have to do it if they're 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: sixty five to seventy two correc. 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: So essentially, putting together a jury is a numbers game, really, 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: And last year, during a visit to a courtroom, staff 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: indicated me that it was far too easy for those 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: over the age of sixty five to press the unsubscribed button, 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: if you want to think about it that way. And 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: this increases the number of summons that they have to 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: send out, which obviously has an increase in associated costs, 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: processing times and all of that. And so this bill, 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: as you say, moves that age from sixty five to 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: seventy two, So anyone under the age of seventy two 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: would have to serve jury duty unless any of the 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: other normal reasons apply, like family commitments or health or 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: business or religious beliefs or the like. 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: What would What was the thought behind this rule? I 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: guess was it for people who were in their retirement 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: age superannuation, they're not really interested or not capable. What 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: was the theory? 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Well, this came in a very long time ago, and 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: I think we've all seen over a number of years 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: there's been a big shift in societal expectations and the 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: way we work. And you know, I trust our seniors 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: to be able to fulfill jury duty, to be able 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: to exercise the role that they need to play on 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: a jury. And I think when you think about community organizations, 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: sports organizations, clubs, even our churches and schools and the like, 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: we have seniors participate in all of those running them, 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: supporting them, and I think jury duty really in twenty 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: twenty five is no different. 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: All Right, nice one, Cayl. Thank you for that. Cal 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: Bates National MP for Huanganu. We'd love to know what 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: people think of that one. For more from Hither Duplessy, 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: Allen Drive listen live to news talks. It'd be from 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.