1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: The issue, the Interviews US and the Inside Andrew Dickens 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Beds and apply at Store News Talks. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: It'd be. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: It's the nineteenth of December. I'm Andrew Dickins work on 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: into the program Christmas. It's so close. Not only can 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: I smell it, I can taste it too. On the 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: program today, Redress for the victims of Late Alice electro 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: shock torture. We're going to survive, talk to a survivor 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: who went through the hell and how he feels about 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: the money. Speaking money. Rowing is the big winner in 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: sports funding, so we're going to talk to the rowers 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: and speaking you money. The Kenningback Senior Economists is going 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: to join us just before six o'clock to give us 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: her pick on the GDP numbers that are out today. 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: As this wonderful slew of economic news comes our way. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: We've got correspondence from America and run around the country 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: to come and we'll have news as it breaks. And 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: if you want something to say, I have something to say. 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Ninety two. Ninety two is a text number, small charge, 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: and if you've got more to say, you could always 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: email me Dickens at News Talks FB dot co dot NZ. 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: It is seven after five the agenda, Well is here Thursday, 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: the nineteenth of December. Thank you for choosing US. Russian 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: officials say they have arrested a man for the killing 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: of a top general in Moscow. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 4: Investigators in Russia say the twenty nine year old Uzbachman 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: was recruited by Ukrainian special forces, promised one hundred thousand 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: dollars and given permission to move to the EU in 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: return for killing Lieutenant General Igor Kirilov. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: Well, Russia says it will raise the assassination at the 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: UN Security Council, and that's going to happen this weekend 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: to America, and the US FED is expected to cut 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: rates for the third consecutive time later this morning. Inflation 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: is still an issue in the States. Last month, the 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: CPI rose by two point seven percent. Of course, the 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: Fed has a goal of two percent. That decision on 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: the rates is expected around eight o'clock this morning, hours 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: before New Zealand's GDP numbers are released. Actually, what will 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: happen on the markets? I wonder we'll have more on 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: that just before six. By the way, and to Australia, 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: where the Foreign Minister Penny Wong has announced its embassy 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: in Kiev will be reopened next month. It goes three 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: years ago. 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: We have been working to re establish the security arrangements 46 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: to enable this to happen, and I'm very pleased to 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: be here to announce the reopening of the Australian embassy. 48 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: Australia will also provide Ukraine with sixty six million dollars 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: in reconstruction and recovery and ten million dollars for heat 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: and electricity. And that's on top of the one point 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: three billion dollars in aid. So i'll see, I'll read 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: that one more time. Australia gives one point three billion 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: dollars in aid to the Ukraine. They've got a bit 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: of dang, haven't they. And finally, oh yes, the battle 55 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: against climate change is going well. The toxic levels of 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: air pollution have returned to Delhi, an expert warning the 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: impacts could be worse than the pandemic. Quality levels have 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: reached thirty five times over what the World Health Organization 59 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: concedes as safe. I'll read that one more time too, 60 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: thirty five times higher than the safe level. This has 61 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: been an ongoing problem for Delhi, a crop burning a 62 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: big driver of the pollution. It's nine after five. 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Beds and Appliant Store Youth Talk Zippy. 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: So welcome to our new fast track world. This is 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: where parliamentarians have been given the right to approve projects 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: they reckon good for the country. Last night Chris Bishop 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: was talking to Ryan on the Drive Show and he 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: was talking about what they originally had. He referred to 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: himself and Sibby and Brown and Shane Jones as the Troika, 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: and I had to laugh. Troyker is a Russian word 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: referring to three parties being a ruling body, and those 74 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: three under the original legislation were a ruling body. So 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: he knew right from the start the remarkable power he 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: was giving himself. But that power has been watered down 77 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: a little bit to stop people using words like troykp Chris. 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: But anyway, but the underlying concern about the ultimate power 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: that rests and parliamentarians for making these sorts of decisions 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: continue because we all know projects that have been disasters 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: We all know projects that have contained unintended consequences. We 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 3: know projects that have favored investors and not the community. 83 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: Were also aware of many projects run by cowboys that 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: we regretted. We know of suburbs built in flood zones. 85 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 3: We know of dams built in unstable land, various INFI 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: nightmare up and down the country, and environmentally affecting runoffs 87 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: from industry that have poisoned our waterways. And all that 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: happened when regulation was in place. But now well, regulation 89 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: is still in place, but the ministers and the parliamentarians 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: get the final word after consultation. I remember talking to 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: a s city planner in Auckland and this guy said, 92 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: there's a handful of developers in the city who get 93 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: their consents in a month every time. Why because their 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: application is We're perfect and compliant from the get go. 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: Many others go back and forth and then start to 96 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: complain about the level of red tape as they try 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: to circumvent the rules. These days, construction costs are worse 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: than legal costs, so any corners they can cut in 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: the planning process they will cut. However, like everybody, I 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: totally understand that we went far too far the other way, 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: and we totally need to be able to progress and 102 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: to get stuff down. So you have to support the 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: new act and hope that you know they do it well. 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: But I would warn the politicians pushing it that bad 105 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: decisions will affect your legacy. You don't want to be 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: the guy who approved the place that actually ended up 107 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: breaking down and polluting an entire lake, et cetera. Do 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: you now? And I also warn everybody that politicians and 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: public servants don't have a great track record so far 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: picking the right horses. And if you want an example, 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: how about Solar zero And what happened last week Andrew Dickens. 112 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: Did you hear this song went back to number one? 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: It's forty years old, Wham and George Michael and they 114 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: re released it again in the UK, everything's always re 115 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: released with the streaming ages, gone back to number one 116 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 3: because it's a killer. I said to Leo the producer, 117 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: we need more Christmas music. We haven't done much Christmas music. 118 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: There's only four more days of working until Christmas. Let's 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: get all christy speaking of Christmas. In the world of politics, 120 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: optics is everything right. You don't have to be kind, intelligent, 121 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: decisive or correct, but you're sure as hell have to 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: look like it. Optics are king. You need to avoid 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: a look that everyone is going to comment on if 124 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: you're in politics, don't you, Which is why when I 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: opened up my paper this morning and I saw the 126 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: image of the leader of the opposition, Chris Higgins dressed 127 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: as Satacaus, giving our presence at a Barnado's party yesterday, 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: I found that very entertaining. Lovely stuff he's treating the kids. 129 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: The Press secretary said, the optics on this must be fantastic. 130 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: But then the more cynical of us go, well hoo. 131 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: Mister Hipkins has been sent to his entire political life, 132 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: given presents to everybody, which is why the country is 133 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: in the economic situation we find ourselves in today. So 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: maybe Chris, I don't know, I don't know. You look 135 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: a lovely Christmas and you look a lovely Santa Claus. 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: You're a bit slim, it's fair to say, however, Optics, man, optics, 137 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: it's five point fourteen. Jim Goodwin is a survivor from 138 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: Lake Alice. Lake Alis is where they did electroshock therapy 139 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: on people who were not mentally ill, multiple multiple times. 140 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: It has been defined as torture by the UN. So 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Jim is going to get some money after yesterday's announcements. 142 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: How does he feel about well? Jim is joining here 143 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: on newsk set B on. 144 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew 145 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and applying 146 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: store Youth Talk. 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: Zeb B five sixteen. Following the Royal Commission into Abuse 148 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: and State Care, Lake Alice survivors finally have certainty with 149 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: a redress scheme announced by the Minister Erica Stamford says. 150 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: Each survivor will receive a minimum of one hundred and 151 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars and a one off payment, or they 152 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: can choose to go through an individual payment process which 153 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: will see each claim independently assessed to determine the amount paid. 154 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: And you'd hope maybe you might get some more money 155 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: for that more recompense. Twenty two point six ' eight 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: million has been set aside for this redress process. A 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: new written apology will be issued, as well as access 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: to support and rehab services. Jim Goodwin is a Lake 159 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: Alie survivor and joins me now. 160 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 2: Jim Hello, Hello, I'm not a Light Dalice survivor. 161 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: Yes you are, You're not. 162 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm not a Lake Alice survivor. Oh yeah, yeah. 163 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: Well why are we talking to you? Then? 164 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: H You guys got to me because I was involved 165 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: in the Royal commercial I was a survivor advisory group 166 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: for the Royal commercialer. 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: Oh very good. 168 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: So how other survivors feeling about this redress package. 170 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: Well, from watching the media, some of them are pretty angry. 171 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: Well could you explain? Could you explain for the people? 172 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, explain explain to everyone why 173 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: they might be angry. Explain for everybody why greater redress 174 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: is necessary, and also explain how this is a documented 175 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: case of torture done by New Zealand and recognized by 176 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: the UN. 177 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: It's right, it is a documented case of torture. And 178 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for the Lake Alice survivors, 179 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: but I get why they're angry because they've spent their 180 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: lives being fobbed off, ignored and trying to get what 181 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: they're finally getting. Now get that they're still angry and 182 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: saying that this is not good enough. Also, this has 183 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: been determined by ministers of the crowd and heads of 184 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: government department the very people were very people in the 185 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: very positions that have bobbed them off and ignored them 186 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: for their lives. 187 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: They have a choice. They have a choice. Obviously they 188 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: can go. They can either get one hundred and fifty 189 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: grand straight up one thing. And you've got to realize 190 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are getting older, you know, 191 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: and there's time is starting to take if you know 192 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: what I mean, or they could go through yet another fight, 193 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: which is, you know, an individual payment process where an 194 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: arbit decides that they might deserve more. How many do 195 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 3: you think we'll take that choice. 196 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what the numbers of like Olie survivors 197 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: are now, because, as you say, they some of them 198 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: are dying and being a survivor or social into life, 199 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: so particularly after what they've been through, So I don't 200 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: know how many will keep fighting. It sounds to me, 201 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: it reads to me like one hundred and fifty grand 202 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean an end to it. It seems to 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: me that one hundred and fifty thousand is we'll give 204 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: you one hundred and fifty thousand. If you want to 205 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: want more later, we'll look at that. I don't think 206 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: this is a full and final settlement. That's my reading 207 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: of it. 208 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: Andrew Jim, I thank you for your time this morning, 209 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: and thank you for all your support of those survivors 210 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: who have been through hell. The Row Commission made one 211 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty eight recommendations. Christopher Luxen said the government 212 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 3: has either completed or was progressing twenty eight of them 213 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: so far. So maybe time is of the essence. So 214 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: maybe this redress has coming quite about quickly so that 215 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: there's something happening, And as Jim suggests, perhaps there might 216 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: be more a bit later on. But at the same time, 217 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 3: remember our financial situation. A national remembrance today will be 218 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: held on November the twelfth next year to mark the 219 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: one year anniversary of the apology. And here's another one. 220 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: Prime Minister yesterday committed to work to remove street names, 221 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: public amenities and public honors that highlighted the proven perpetrators. Wow, 222 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: it's five twenty rowing is rowing officially the biggest sport 223 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: in New Zealand certainly the one getting the most money. 224 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: We're talking to the rowers. 225 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: Next, News and Views you Trust to start your day. 226 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New 227 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and applying store news talks. 228 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: Di'd be At the beginning of the program, I talked 229 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: about the new fast track process and how Parliamentarians now 230 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: have a remarkable amount of power to approve stuff, and 231 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: I just warned that, you know, sometimes they go and 232 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: get it wrong, probably more often get it wrong than 233 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: under the current regime. Paul's written back and said, are 234 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: you seriously suggesting that we never do anything in case 235 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: it goes wrong? No? I didn't say that, but I 236 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: just said a warning. Meanwhile, he says that Sola zero 237 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: had a stupid business model and a stupid investment. Everyone 238 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: was sucked in thinking it had government support as a 239 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: green initiative. No, that's the problem anyway. Five two three 240 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: Rowing is the big winner from the funding given out 241 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: by a high performance sport and therefore Simon Wickham from Rowing, 242 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: New Zealand here is the CEO, joins us on the program. 243 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: Congratulations mate, you must be the biggest sport in the land. 244 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 6: Welly, Andrew, we're pretty pleased with the outcome. We're thankful 245 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 6: for every dollar of support we get from both you know, 246 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 6: New Zealand taxpayers through high performance sport in New Zealand 247 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 6: and many donors and supporters behind us. And you know 248 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 6: our sites are said on Los Angeles in twenty twenty 249 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 6: eight and Brisbane in twenty thirty two. 250 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: Does this level of funding come with great pressure? 251 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: There's always great pressure in the system. I think we've 252 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 6: certainly delivered good return on investment today having one twenty 253 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: five percent of all the medals New Zealand's one since 254 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: Sydney two thousand, but that certainly creates more pressure as well. 255 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: There's there's legacy. 256 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 6: History behind the sport and equally there's a real challenge 257 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: moving forward to take on the likes of Great Britain, 258 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 6: Australia et cetera. Most but the countries have got at 259 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 6: least double the support that we've got. 260 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: It's not though about medals, is it because it's also 261 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: about the sport And are you seeing this level of 262 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: support resonate in increased numbers of participation. 263 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 6: Well, a really good example from the last weekend we 264 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 6: had the largest regatta at Cadapiro ever in history. Over 265 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 6: twenty seven hundred athletes took part and we're definitely seeing 266 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: it at both ends we're seeing it obviously with people 267 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 6: like the Golden Mums Brook and Lucy in Paris, and 268 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 6: we're seeing it from all sorts of people now taking 269 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: part in rowing and its numbers are definitely growing. 270 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: Well, this is all great, du Is. Congratulations mate. You 271 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: know how I originally said it's not about the medals, Yes, sure, yeah, 272 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: it is actually about the medals. You better win a 273 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: whole heat. 274 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 6: Well, we've got a team that's certainly up for the 275 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 6: challenge and we need every bit of funding out there 276 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: to support those athletes and coaches that do what they 277 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 6: do every day at this time of the morning to 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 6: put themselves on track to do it again. Exact, Los Angeles, 279 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight. 280 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: Well done and that is Simon Wickham Rowing New Zealand CEO. Yes, 281 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: that time of the morning. They all trained very very early. 282 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: This is why I didn't do the sport. Also a 283 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: total absence of upper body strength. 284 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: The Early Edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 285 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: News Talks at. 286 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Me New sid B five twenty seven. Round about this 287 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: time yesterday we were expecting Steve Armitage from Hospitality in 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: New Zealand on the show, but it didn't pick up, 289 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: which I mentioned repeatedly this was because of mixed wires. 290 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: We thought we were talking to him, They thought we 291 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: were supposed to be talking to someone else. So poor 292 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: of Steve didn't have a clue that we were phoning him, 293 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: and he was blissfully asleep while I was sitting there 294 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: to say pick up Steve. So I'd just like to 295 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: apologize to Steve. Wasn't your fault? Just mix wires. There 296 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: now two million feral cats. That's the horrific number that 297 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: came out of the debate on Celia way Brown's bill 298 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: to control our cat population. We have two million feral 299 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: cats wandering around eating too. All domestic cats under Celia's 300 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: bill will have to be microship and registered. The bill 301 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: makes it over the line. It stops short of compulsory 302 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: desexing for companion cats. The aim of the bill is 303 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: to improve animal welfare and protect native wildlife. The debate 304 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: has erupted in different regions at local level for many 305 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: years now, and this is different though, because this is nationwide, 306 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: this is the government, and it's in Parliament, and this 307 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: is a motive topic. And I know because I've done 308 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: talk back about this. Cat lovers really really really really 309 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: really really love cats, and when you start talking about 310 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: killing moggies or microsipping morggis and people get a bit upset. 311 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: I remember one debate when we heard of a kindly 312 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: lady who would feed hundreds of feral cats living in 313 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: a park and Parnell she loved the moggies, but the 314 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: moggie is still like to hunt, and no matter how 315 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: much he fed them. When confronted with the damage she 316 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: was doing, she had many others were outraged at the 317 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: accusation you can't let these poor cats die. But the 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: proof of the problem putting is that that figure of 319 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: two million feral cats, it's a small army, and it 320 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: exists because of the irresponsibility of owners, and not just 321 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: one or two owners, hundreds of thousands of owners. So 322 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: many New Zealanders fail to grasp the responsibility of pet ownership. 323 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: And I never understood the complaints when you're told there 324 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: are more stringent rules over the ownership of cats. These 325 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: are living beings. It's a big deal. We know that 326 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: for kids, we know that for dogs, we know that 327 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: for guns. So I see no problem with microchipping your cat. 328 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: I did that seventeen years ago with my dog. Labradoodle 329 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: called Safie, God Rest her soul. Cats, dogs and guns 330 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: are not a right, they are a privilege, Dickens. So 331 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: goodness me, there's a strike at Amazon. There can't be 332 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: a strike at Amazon. It's Christmas. What's going to happen 333 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: to our presents? So we're going to join Tony Waterson 334 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 3: a bit later on from the United States of America 335 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: and we going right around the country here on early edition, 336 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Dickens. This is News Talks. 337 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: It be. 338 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on an early edition with Smith City, New 339 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Bids and Appliant Store News Dogs. It be. 340 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: As old. Poor McCartney, he's still touring. Man is eighty two, 341 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: and I was thinking about him the other day because 342 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: he lost Linda quite early on. Then he had that 343 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: other wife one with only one leg that didn't go well. 344 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: But he continues to play all the way through. He's 345 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: just such a champion. Said he didn't play New Zealand 346 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: and his world tour. What's that about, Paul? We're here, 347 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: we're waiting. Grant writes to me, cats need to be 348 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: sorted out, but get rid of cats and other pieces 349 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: like rabbits explode fair point exactly right. Remember see the 350 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: way Brown's bill doesn't say get rid of cats. It 351 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: says that if you have a cat, you've got to 352 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: get it micro tripped and registered. Then again, who's going 353 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: to police all that? But maybe it's just it's symbolic. 354 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: It's trying to get you to care for the cats 355 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: so you don't actually have thousands of kittens and then 356 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: go and dump them down down the park and then 357 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: wonder why suddenly there's no birds. On the subject of animals, 358 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 3: the farmer, the pig, poacher and the pigs. What a story. 359 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: The trial of seventy seven year old Stuart Campbell Edmundson. 360 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: It's underway in the Hamilton High Court. There better some 361 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: debate about where to hold this trial because of the 362 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: difficulty of getting a jury of his peers, because apparently 363 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 3: all the locals and Coromandel are very supportive of Stuart. 364 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: But here's another question. What's happening to the pigs. So 365 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: there are hundreds of wild pigs on Stuart's farm. They 366 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: roam the property on the Corimandal Peninsula and he feeds them. 367 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: He's renowned both locally and internationally for his deep of 368 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: affinity with these pigs. They're described as semi wild and 369 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: they've all gathered on his family property for decades because 370 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: they obviously got up amongst each other and go, we're. 371 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 7: Safe there, We're safe there, and Stewart will feed us, and. 372 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: So whole families and pigs go and live on this 373 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: coromand of farm. Now the pigs do not legally belong 374 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: to Edmondson. They are classified as wild animals. He raises 375 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: them as if they were family. So now we have 376 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: a fundraising page set up to support the pigs and 377 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: Stuart Ebinson's legal costs. A man of gentle nature and 378 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: compassion who is accused of murdering a pig poacher A 379 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: forty one year old so fascinating story twenty two to six. 380 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens. 381 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: Let's go to Otago. Jamie Cunningham, good morning, good morning. 382 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: There's a new initiative for South into Otago Hospitals. 383 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: What is it? 384 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, this Takuga initiative aims to bridge the cultural 385 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 8: gap when dealing with patients who've died. In Ta Kunga Maori, 386 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 8: a body becomes tapu or sacred when a person dies, 387 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 8: and it can be inappropriate to use the same medical 388 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 8: tools as used for the living. A working group has 389 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 8: created boxes named Ipu Mariie with separate steph scopes and 390 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 8: pen torches, as well as a wooden bowl for ritual cleansing. 391 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 8: Water Registrar doctor Y Martemar Martinez, who's it provides something 392 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 8: culturally important to staff all a patient's faro while raising 393 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 8: others awareness of cultural practices. 394 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: Excellent. How's your weather? 395 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 8: It's cloudy with patchy drizzle with rain developing this evening, 396 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 8: northeastlies and a high of seventeen. 397 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: I knew it couldn't last, Jamie, Thank you so much. 398 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: Close hereward from Canterbury. 399 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 9: Hello, good morning. 400 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: Some guy drove through a black bill gull colony. 401 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 9: Yes well, a North Canterary man has been fined six 402 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 9: thousand dollars for doing that. Andrew he deliberately drove through 403 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 9: a colony which was on his property. Clive Gordon has 404 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 9: been sentenced. He used a ute and also a fourteen 405 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 9: ton digger to go through a one thousand strong nesting 406 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 9: colony at his place in Belfast. This happened in November 407 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 9: of last year. Department of Conservation MAHANUI Operations manager Andy 408 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 9: Thompson says the abandoning of a colony this size is 409 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 9: a significant blow for the species, which is declining faster 410 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 9: than it can breed. Thompson says they'll be responding very 411 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 9: seriously to any incident like this one. 412 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 413 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 414 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 3: Indeed, during the recent Bird of the Year competition, people 415 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: were saying, believe it or not, seagulls are endangered. How's 416 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: the weather in Canterbury? 417 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 9: Swooping me this morning as a part my car Andrew, 418 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 9: But anyway, Ryan developing this morning in christ Church, souther 419 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 9: leaves in the high of seventeen. 420 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much. Mex Toll from Willington. Hello, 421 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 3: good morning, so Pei, Peter Oni. That's right. 422 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 10: So much this year about name changes suburbs, streets, towns 423 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 10: changing their name, typically from a paquiha name back to 424 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 10: its original mali four or changing the spelling, adding or 425 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 10: removing an A or a macron a Wellington no exception. 426 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 10: The mayor here in the city, Tori Fano, even arranged 427 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 10: a media event for one small streets in Adoor Valley 428 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 10: changing its name. The biggest though for the region this 429 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 10: year was supposed to be Petoni changing to pet Ornie 430 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 10: it sounds like a very mild change, and it looks 431 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 10: like relatively mild change on paper. Pato space o ne 432 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 10: but an important one to Ewe and Harpoot Pittoni was 433 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 10: apparently a misspelling by settlers. There's a little confusion around that. 434 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 10: Both roughly translate to the end of the Sandy Beach 435 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 10: Land Information Minister Chris pink has had the final sign 436 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 10: off and said no thanks to changing it officially, disappointing 437 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 10: the majority of the Hut City Council and Mayor Campbell Barry, 438 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 10: who told us it's not going to stop them trying 439 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 10: to ensure that place names reflect history culture. Chris Pank 440 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 10: himself says he looked at a range of submissions involving history, 441 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 10: minimizing disruption and removing ambiguity. 442 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's also what they basically campaigned on. So 443 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: he's saying on brand, whether it's right or wrong. So 444 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: how's your weather? 445 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: Not good? Rain? 446 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 10: Strong, southerly's fifteen the high. 447 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: As you had a text on this earlier, Peter Onie, 448 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: what a monumental line. There has never been a Malori 449 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: spelling because the Maoris have no written language, no alphabet no, 450 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: but they have a verbal language, and normally they say 451 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: Peter onie, but it became patonic because we're bazy. We 452 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: just contracted it to walk. Came we go. Wendy Petrick, Hello, Hello, Hello, 453 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: water structure, water infrastructure. 454 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 5: It's exciting, isn't it? 455 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: Water structure. I just invented a new word, you did. 456 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: I like it. 457 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: So this is water Care progressing on its flood recovery 458 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 5: work at Auckland's and White Tackleti Ranges since last year's 459 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 5: extreme weather events. You remember, water Care has been constructing 460 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 5: retaining walls, rebuilding pipe bridges damaged by slips across the 461 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: Western Catchment. It's finished now five of the nine major projects, 462 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: and they say they plan to have another one done 463 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 5: by Christmas. They also they are going to have a 464 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: projects within the White Tacklei Ranges completed by mid next year. 465 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 5: So they want to make it easier to get our 466 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: water safe and running well before fabious. And how's the weather, Well, 467 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: it's just so easy today. It's a fine day. There's 468 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 5: nothing more to say. It's a fine day. There's some 469 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 5: southwesternies and there's a twenty four degree high. 470 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Sour westers, though they're cold. I don't like sour Westerns. Oh, 471 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: thank you. It is seventeen to six. Yesterday was depressing, 472 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: wasn't it? With all the news about our economy and 473 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: what's going to happen and weather. Here we are. We've 474 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: been trying to survive to twenty five, but it looks 475 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: like twenty five is going to be a bit crappy, 476 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: and so there I'll just hang on to twenty six 477 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: and then twenty nine and then maybe we won't have 478 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: a surplace in the year twenty three. It was all 479 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: just a bit depressing, wasn't it. And then wouldn't you 480 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 3: know it? Today the GDP figures come out and what 481 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: are you thinking it's going to happen? There can't be good, 482 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: can it. Anyway, we will talk to the Kiwibank senior 483 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: economists on her picks that what's happening with the economy. 484 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: Before six o'clock, we're off to America. Next to is 485 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: sixteen to. 486 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: Six International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of 487 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business to. 488 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: The United States of America. We go in Austin and Texas. 489 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: It's Tony Waterman, hell at Toney, good morning. So the 490 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: GOP one to prosecute a Republican who investigated Trump in 491 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: the January sixth Capital riots. So this is a growing 492 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: list of enemies that Trump might go after. 493 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, it certainly is. So this has to do with 494 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 7: Liz Cheney. 495 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 11: She was the vice chair of that committee that investigated 496 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 11: Trump's role in the January sixth attack on the US Capitol, 497 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 11: and her fellow Republicans have been investigating that committee for 498 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 11: months now, and there was this interim report that was 499 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 11: released on Tuesday, and they claim that she likely broke 500 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 11: a number of federal laws, including allegations of witness tampering 501 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 11: and essentially convincing a witness to lie. And they now 502 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 11: are calling on the FBI to investigate her. The thing 503 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 11: is is that Trump has nominated loyalists to run not 504 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 11: only the FBI, but also the Justice Department. Of course, 505 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 11: the incoming president has repeatedly and strongly hinted that he 506 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 11: wants to go after his political enemies. Liz Cheney, who 507 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 11: was the daughter of a former Vice President of the 508 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 11: United States, Dick Cheney. She has come out and blasted 509 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 11: this report saying that it is full of lies and 510 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 11: just completely ignores Trump's role in the riots. 511 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: So he wants to do what he's accusing them of 512 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: doing to him. So there's a pot calling the kittle black. Hey, 513 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: so Mary, Christmas zon Zone strike. 514 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 515 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 11: So these are some strikes that have been authorized at 516 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 11: a number of Amazon facilities in New York, Illinois, and 517 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 11: in southern California. And some of these are actually quite 518 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 11: crucial hubs. So, for example, the San Bernardino location in 519 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 11: southern California is Amazon's largest air hub in the Western US, 520 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 11: with more than a thousand workers. So if these strikes 521 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 11: actually happen in the next week, it could have just 522 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 11: a major impact on the movement of packages across the 523 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 11: entire country, just a week before Christmas and Honokoh, which 524 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 11: is the biggest gift giving holidays in the US. So 525 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 11: these workers are calling for better wages, benefits, and working conditions. 526 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 11: The problem is is that Amazon is refusing to recognize 527 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 11: the union that is representing these workers. So things are 528 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 11: at a bit of a stalemate. So at the end 529 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 11: of the day, you know, it's perhaps going to be 530 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 11: Santa that's going to have to do a bit more 531 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 11: of the heavy lifting this Christmas. 532 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: Great Stefan, I thank you that, as Teddy would have 533 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: been out of the United States of America. Meanwhile, in space, 534 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: remember those guys Sunny Williams and Butch Wilmore who went 535 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: up to the International Space Station for eight days. They 536 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: went up there in June. They were due to be 537 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: back after a week, but it turns out that their spacecraft, 538 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: the star Line are built by Boeing, wasn't up to it. 539 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 3: And then they said to him, oh, you know how, 540 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: you're going to come back in a week. Now, you're 541 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: going to come back in months. You're going to come 542 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: back in February. Guess what they got for Christmas? Yesterday 543 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: they were told that, oh, sorry, actually you're not coming 544 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: back until next March or April. They went up in 545 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: June for a week, they're not coming back until March 546 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: or April. Horrific. It's eleven to six, all right. Continuing 547 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: this week's economic theme of dark economic times, GDP numbers 548 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: are out later this morning. Not expected to be good. 549 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: All of our banks are expecting. Our economy contracted in 550 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: Q three by about point three down to point four, 551 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: which is er point three to point four percent, which 552 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: would put the country back into a recession for the 553 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: I don't know third time. I'm not sure, Mary Joe 554 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: Vigara is is the keep we bag senior economists and 555 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: joins you. Now, how are Mary, Joe Modernna? 556 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 12: How are you? 557 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm good? What do you reckon? Is it going to be? 558 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: Is it going to be another recession? 559 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 12: That is what we're picking. We're picking a return to 560 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 12: a technical recession. So that would be a point three 561 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 12: percent contraction over the September quarter that follows another contraction 562 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 12: over June. 563 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: You know, yesterday when we had all this dismal news 564 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: out of Hayefu, there were two types of people that 565 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: we talked to. One are going, yeah, well, times are tough, 566 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: but there are green sprouts in the economy. 567 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 12: You know. 568 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: They had some optimism and there is others that went, well, 569 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: we'll be paying for this by our children and our 570 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: children's children and their children's children. And we're down the Googler. 571 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: Where do you stand? 572 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 12: I think for the economy, next year should be a 573 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 12: better year. So we're a bit more optimistic. But you know, 574 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 12: you'd say it's optimus back. It's just realistic. We've been 575 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 12: in a recession for the last two years, especially on 576 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 12: a per capita basis, But there is a bank now 577 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 12: cutting interest rates that should you know, start to see 578 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 12: gals return in the second half of next year in 579 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 12: terms of the you know sis outlook at words, deteriorate it. 580 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 12: And that's just following the pattern of what we've seen 581 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 12: in the last few years. 582 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: What about international pressures, because the fairs are picking to 583 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: they're going to be cutting the rates. It sounds like 584 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: as well, could that help us? 585 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, when the global economy improves, we do too. We're 586 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 12: a small, open economy, so we're heavily reliant on what 587 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 12: happens overseas. So when that starts to pick up, which 588 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 12: we do expect next year, it's another reason why we 589 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 12: expect clothes in New Zealand to pick up as well. 590 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 12: Obviously it helps our exporters in that regard. 591 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: What about the issue of productivity. I mean, while we 592 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: all blame the government for where we are at, private 593 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: debt far exceeds public and government debt, and we are, 594 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: of course the business community and it's up to us 595 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: to actually get our productivity up. How can we do this? 596 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: How can we help? 597 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 12: Oh, it's definitely just an infrastructure story. We've just under 598 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 12: arrested an infrastructure for I don't even know how long 599 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 12: and that has been you know, harboring our productivity. We 600 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 12: really need to lift that. It's part of the reason 601 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 12: why we've had recession so tough. Yes, we've employed a 602 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 12: lot of people, but our layer productivity is very poor. 603 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 12: That's part of the reason why we've had such a 604 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 12: volatile a few years. 605 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: And is government the cutting of government spending Is that 606 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: a silver bullet or do we need much more, much 607 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: more weapons in our arsenal. 608 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 609 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 12: I think government spending it needs to be directed into 610 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 12: that productivity space, into that infrastructure, you know, building new roads, 611 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 12: building hospitals and schools and all of that. That'll I 612 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 12: think in a time of recession you need the government 613 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 12: to kind of come in and boost boosts the economy. 614 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 12: And cutting and cutting, you know, spending it kind of 615 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 12: just makes the situation bit worse. 616 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much, Mary, Joe Vegata. And that's 617 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: pretty similar to what Cameron Vagri said at the beginning 618 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: of the week and said, yes, we do have to 619 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: cut government spending, but at the same time we also 620 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: have to invest. The government has to invest a big player. 621 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 3: Look at the construction industry. You know, they invest in 622 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: school buildings and hospitals, et cetera. And then that money 623 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: ends out in the hands of the construction industry. Look 624 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: what's happened to the construction industry as we've cut down 625 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: on that construction from the government money. So everything is 626 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: into linked and everything is intertied. And it is now 627 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: seven to six. 628 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 629 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New 630 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and a flying Store on news Talk said, 631 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: be after. 632 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: Talking to Tony Waterston about the actions against Cheney, We've 633 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: got to correspondent here, says after following Trump for years, 634 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 3: who correspondent just lied through her teeth. Donald Trump has 635 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: maintained he doesn't want to go after anyone. Every interview 636 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: I've ever listened to Trump since sets success will be 637 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: his revenge unless anybody has committed a crime. Bloody typical media. 638 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: That's why he won. 639 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 7: Well, that's lock her up, lock her up, lock her up. 640 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, no, no, But he's talking about 641 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks or so. 642 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 7: Change now. 643 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: So he's changed now, And that's true, But that's not 644 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: the problem. Really, it's actually all the supporters. It's the 645 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: GOP who are now actually wanted to do the revenge 646 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: on his bath. He doesn't need to do a thing, Texter, 647 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: because he's got enough happy little minions who are prepared 648 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: to take on Liz Cheney Hanley. 649 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 7: You hello to GDP, GDP. 650 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: I was going to talk talk about that. I was 651 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: going to I was going to talk about the scuttle 652 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: but that came out of the Parliamentary Press Gallery party 653 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: last night featuring some mister Soper esquire. 654 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 7: What did you hear? 655 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: I heard he had a very good naves. He thinks 656 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: out of character. 657 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 7: Don't you think out of character? 658 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: So you sent him down there? 659 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 7: I send, I send, I send all the bad behavior 660 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 7: away Now I don't want was this was this. 661 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 3: The last blowout before the infamous February? Probably not? 662 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: Do you know what? Though? 663 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 7: Like there is something that happens, and I feel sorry 664 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 7: for men because there's something that happens to us as women. 665 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 7: Once we start creating, we become incredibly sensible, don't we, 666 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 7: And we stopped being the party people that we were, 667 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, we're just boring old 668 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 7: wife at home saying I don't want to I don't 669 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 7: want to see you like this, Can you go party 670 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 7: somewhere else? 671 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: Yes? 672 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: Yes, So I don't want to talk about the GDP. 673 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: Did you not listen to the radio wall of yesterday and. 674 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 7: Just go, ah, look, I mean, here's the good thing. 675 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 7: I'm going to give you the good news. Right, we're 676 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 7: probably in our third recession in two years, but we're 677 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 7: through the worst of it. So there's the good news. 678 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 7: Is that from here it's onwards and upwards, and I 679 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 7: think we just got to cling to that and try 680 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 7: to get ourselves in the Congratulations. 681 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: Patient, you're still alive, but you need another five years 682 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: of therapy, a rehabilitation. You can live. 683 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 7: You can live, Come bin out. 684 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: I gotta go. Thank you so much, So you tomorrow. 685 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 686 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 687 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.