1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: More change coming to a maths class in a year. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: It's a new tutoring program they're giving a world two 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: thousand intermediate students are going to take part in a 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: twelve week trial early next to year. Each student will 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: have access to four thirty minute sessions a week, so 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: it sounds fairly intensive. Founder of the Education Hub, doctor 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: Nina Hood, is back. Well, there's Nina Morning. Good money, mate, 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Broadly you like it? 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: I do? I mean, I think we know that there 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: are a number of students across our primary schools that 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: are not where they need to be at math, and 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: we need to do something in order to get them 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: much speed and small group interventional one on one tutoring 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: is one of the most effective means we have to 15 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: do that. 16 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: So if I get if I were given four thirty 17 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: minute sessions a week for twelve weeks, would I crack it? 18 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: In general? 19 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: So I think you'd get along way there. You know, 20 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: each student's different in each student and to be at 21 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: a different stage, but you're definitely going to see progression. 22 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: As long as the tutoring interventions effective, you should see 23 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: quite a lot of progress. 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Last time I had Erica on the program, Minister of 25 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: education and asked her about this. She's golden me. I 26 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: suggested that maths is a bit unique. Some of us 27 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: get it, some of us don't. She says that's not true. 28 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Is she right? 29 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: She's right. I think everyone can get maths. It's just 30 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: making sure that you're taught in the way that builds 31 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: up the knowledge sequentially. And what we know is that 32 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: a lot of children don't get those basic skills, which 33 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: then prevents them from going on and doing more advanced maths. 34 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: What I like about Erica Stanford, forget the politics for 35 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: a moment, is she seems determined to get stuff rolling 36 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: and kids are being forced into doing this. You know, 37 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: there's a work book and there's this trial, et cetera. 38 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Are we on the right track? Do you think? 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: I think, broadly speaking, yes we are. I think the 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: Minister's identified a number of key challenges we have in 41 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: the system and is putting steps in place in order 42 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: to accress those. 43 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: And the reason she said that intermedia is there the 44 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: last lot before they go to high school and they're 45 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: desperate to improve things. How broad, how wide? How big 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: does this whole thing need to be to get every everybody? 47 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: In other words, we fixed the system. 48 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately we need to go the whole way 49 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: across the primary year. But I think what the Minister 50 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: is also suggesting is that if we get instruction right, 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: so through the curriculum, through better pedagogy being used in 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: our primary schools, we're going to see over time pewer 53 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: and pure intermediate students who are needing this type of intervention. 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: But at the moment we have quite a few who 55 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: are needing it, So this is a really great place 56 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: to focus at this point in time. 57 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's good to have you on the program, Nina 58 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: doctor Ninahood, who's the Education Hub founder. 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