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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's hither Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 2: get connected news talk said.

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Speaker 3: Be.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today.

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Speaker 4: There is discussion now about how you punish MPs more

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Speaker 4: harshly to stop them pulling stunts like the hakka last week.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to former Speaker David Carter, but what you

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Speaker 4: can actually do. Foodstuffs has confirmed it will appeal. We'll

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Speaker 4: have a chat to a competition lawyer about that, and

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Speaker 4: we'll also speak to the Kiwi Space company that's broken

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Speaker 4: the sound barrier for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen, Well, I.

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Speaker 4: Reckon the hikoy can be called a success, don't you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was peaceful, got heaps of attention. I

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Speaker 4: will get heaps of attention on the evening news, and

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Speaker 4: it's pretty big. And what it did by being that

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Speaker 4: big was it energize people who are sympathetic to that

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Speaker 4: side of the argument. And that counts for a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because basically everybody who's there, it's going to

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Speaker 4: look around and feel absolutely stoked that there are at

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Speaker 4: least another thirty four nine and ninety nine people who

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Speaker 4: feel exactly the same. So as far as protests go

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Speaker 4: pretty good one, and by the way, don't forget also

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Speaker 4: the people who didn't go to the protest and will

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Speaker 4: watch tonight who feel mildly sympathetic towards to thinking, oh, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: it's thirty five thousand people there. Yeah, I feel a

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Speaker 4: bit like that. So as far as protests go pretty

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Speaker 4: good one, the Maldi party should be feeling pretty pleased

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Speaker 4: for itself, with itself for putting this one together. But

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Speaker 4: do you know what I did today? I went to

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Speaker 4: Bunnings and I bought a Christmas tree, and then after

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Speaker 4: that I put the Christmas tree up with my son

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Speaker 4: and it's looking great. Yeah. And while I was at

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Speaker 4: Bunning's actually a lot of other people who were pretty

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Speaker 4: much doing the same kind of thing. HIKOI did not

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Speaker 4: feature in my life. HIKOI did not feature by the

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Speaker 4: looks of things and the lives of the people at Bunnings.

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Speaker 4: And I suspect most of the five million people in

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Speaker 4: the country will feel much to say, just got on

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Speaker 4: with their day, not in Wellington, unaffected. Kind of hard

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Speaker 4: to shake the feeling that the hekoy ended up being

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Speaker 4: absolutely a success, but kind of a bit of a

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Speaker 4: fizzer as well. It's weird, but I think it's because

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Speaker 4: thirty five thousand people, while a decent crowd, is pretty

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Speaker 4: much the same size as the crow that turned up

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Speaker 4: to protest the Dunedin hospital changes. Remember that. Remember that

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Speaker 4: was thirty five thousand people that were pulled just from Otago.

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Speaker 4: This is thirty five thousand feet people from across the country, right,

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Speaker 4: This is the whole more too, getting together. Otago does

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Speaker 4: thirty five thousand, the country does thirty five thousand, And

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Speaker 4: by the way, that's thirty five thousand people in Otago

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Speaker 4: without days and days and days of top of the

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Speaker 4: news media coverage. So one is clearly more impressive than

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Speaker 4: the other, don't you think. And part of the reason

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Speaker 4: it feels like a fizzle also is because the main

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Speaker 4: event already happened on Thursday, didn't it. That was the Haucker.

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Speaker 4: We're still talking about the hacker. They talked about it

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Speaker 4: in Parliament again today. It's hard to eclipse the Hucker

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Speaker 4: while it is undoubtedly a success and I'm very pleased

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Speaker 4: it was as peaceful as expected. It is now over

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Speaker 4: was that we were doing before in.

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Speaker 1: Our lives together.

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Speaker 4: DUL nine two nine two is the text number. Standard

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Speaker 4: text fees apply, and I'm happy to hear what you've

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Speaker 4: got to say about that. Onto another subject altogether. In Auckland,

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Speaker 4: the mayor has confirmed that he is stripping some battled

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Speaker 4: just yet, so instead he's planning to take over the

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Speaker 4: back office functions for now Ikipanuku, which is the Economic

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Speaker 4: Development Arm is gone. Under this proposal, Auckland Unlimited will

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Speaker 4: lose a lot of its work. Wayne Brown is the mayor,

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Speaker 4: of course, hiwayn hello now Wayne, do you still I mean,

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Speaker 4: these are just proposals. So do you still need to

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Speaker 4: convince the council?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 5: I do, but I'm hopeful that I have done so.

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Speaker 5: When I stood for the mayor of one of the

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Speaker 5: two one of my five platforms, what it was to

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Speaker 5: get back control the council organizations because though supposedly council controlled,

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Speaker 5: but they're more council controlling and they've become independent, too independent,

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Speaker 5: and I'm set up with people ringing up and complaining

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Speaker 4: So is the council on board with you? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 4: You'll get them over the line.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty hopeful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So what are the back office functions that

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we wanted to a bit more than

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Speaker 5: back office, but basically that we don't. We're the only

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Speaker 5: councilor that doesn't even write its own regional land transport plan.

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Speaker 5: And they even trust Gores and trusted as doing it

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Speaker 5: want them just to focus on public transport. If they

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Speaker 5: I'm sure that the people of Auckland would like them

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Speaker 5: a lot more than they do at the moment.

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Speaker 4: So does that mean that would you take over speed bump,

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Speaker 4: speed limits, roads all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Well, the government's taken over the speed limits just recently

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Speaker 5: as well, which may or may not be a good idea.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that Auckland should be in control

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Speaker 5: of Auckland frankly, and that means I'd like to get

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Speaker 5: it less input from Willington as well as from the

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Speaker 5: independent counselors. But it would mean that we would be

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Speaker 5: taking over all the transport planning and set the annual plan.

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Speaker 5: It's a very least well do and administers agreed to

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Speaker 5: that we at least get that. But really a case

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Speaker 5: can be made that au can transport to just to

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Speaker 4: If they do. If you get to that point and

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Speaker 4: they do it, well, do you leave them doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think there is a place for independence at

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Speaker 5: some stage. But if you want to do that, you've

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Speaker 5: sort of they can do whatever they bloody like at

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Speaker 5: the moment, and they've wandered off for the whole lot

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Speaker 5: of things. When they do stuff in people's neighborhoods, they

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Speaker 5: managed to piss everybody off and that's not good. And

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Speaker 5: you know, we get voted for every three years and

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Speaker 5: they don't. And so if you're going to if you're

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Speaker 4: Why let Auckland Unlimited keep running the zoo in the

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Speaker 4: gallery and stuff. I mean, I realize you're going to

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Speaker 5: Well, they're not doing a bad job of that, and

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Speaker 5: and we may or may not take all the events

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Speaker 5: off them and keep central is economic development. Because economic development,

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Speaker 5: I mean the major cities in China, of which are

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Speaker 5: but amazing. Right, it's all centrally planned with the mayor

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Speaker 5: leads it, surrounded by elected officials and that that's what

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Speaker 5: they concentrate on thinking, and so when they do something

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Speaker 5: we would ensure that there's business things and the man

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Speaker 5: sure there's a transport, planet picks up and water plan

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Speaker 5: the powers on and everything. It's very piecemeal here. It's

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Speaker 5: divided up by starting and players, and that doesn't work

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Speaker 5: and we're not having great development. Economic development in Zealand

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Speaker 5: And I aren't trying to have obviously in Ja overseas,

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Speaker 5: trying to reroute all of the passenger from between all

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Speaker 5: be a huge and put to Auckland's economic development. And

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Speaker 5: in some ways I don't know what it's fell to

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Speaker 5: me to do that, but wasn't happening. So I'm doing that.

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Speaker 5: But as me, I can have a real input on that.

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Speaker 5: But as it stands at the moment, I have known

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Speaker 5: put in economic development because I'm insulated away from it

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Speaker 4: Wayne, thank you very much and good luck. Goodl like

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Speaker 4: getting this across the line with the council. I hope

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Speaker 4: you actually have the numbers. That's Wayne Brown, Auckland's mayor. Heither.

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Speaker 4: I was at the he Court. It was amazing. In capitals,

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Speaker 4: the current government is one term. You can feel that

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Speaker 4: Luxon is so weak. Capitals. Tell the truth. There go, Jackie,

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Speaker 4: I told the truth for you now. One of the

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Speaker 4: most interesting things listen just to the US. One of

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Speaker 4: the most interesting things about Biden deciding to let Ukraine

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Speaker 4: use those long range missiles on Russia is that Trump

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Speaker 4: views on Ukraine and Russia, is quite interesting. And what

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Speaker 4: makes it even more interesting is that there are a

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Speaker 4: now there is speculation as to why that is. That

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Speaker 4: the war. And apparently there is some thinking that Donald

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Speaker 2: Who will take the White House Results and analysis of

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Speaker 4: Nineteen past four and Darcy Waldgrave SportsTalk Coasters of Me, Hallo,

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Speaker 4: dars Hi. Harry Plumber going to ditch the all Blacks.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say ditch the all blacks. He's going to

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Speaker 6: go to France where he's going to make a decent

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Speaker 6: amount of money before he has to retire and live

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Speaker 6: in a lovely part of the world.

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Speaker 4: How is how is badly?

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Speaker 6: According to producer ants Melicitchmon is where the micheline man.

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Speaker 4: Comes from, the actual micheline man.

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Speaker 6: You know of the tires, Yeah, not not the the

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Speaker 6: three stars with the rolls, the big guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And they invented that before tires became black because they

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Speaker 6: were white before that. But they I had to strengthen

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Speaker 6: tires somehow, so they added to compound to make them

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Speaker 6: more durable. And then tire has been from white to black.

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Speaker 4: Has he been playing on the internet again?

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Speaker 6: It's Google. It's about tires. I haven't got anywhere near

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Speaker 6: Google every now and then, you know, I've got I've

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Speaker 6: got something in my head that I can black out.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting and weird facts. But why would Harry plumber

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Speaker 4: be doing this because isn't he just being lined up

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Speaker 4: to be in the All Blacks?

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Speaker 6: Well, you've got to determine your why why do you

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Speaker 6: play rugby? What are you in it for? Some people

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Speaker 4: But it's what it is.

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Speaker 4: But if you actually looked at our squad, there aren't

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Speaker 4: South Africa has got three in the men's fifteen of

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Speaker 4: And you're being simplistic about this. It's a reflection of

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Speaker 6: Oh right, Okay, there you go. Well he's not really

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Speaker 6: Harry Palmer tonight with the player Agent. Two by the bye,

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Speaker 4: Darcy Watergo sportstorre Coast. He'll be back at seven. Hit

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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need.

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Speaker 2: Heather duple c Allen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: As they'd be uh here.

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Speaker 4: The Ardie Savier won the World Player of the Year

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Speaker 4: There for twenty six listen. Parliament today was discussing what

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Speaker 4: He's had complaints from Shane Jones of New Zealand, first,

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Speaker 7: But it is very important in my view that the

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Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: And youth talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 4: Heaven More people went to the Coldplay coms that every night.

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Speaker 4: explain to you what happened there. And Willie J. Mile

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Speaker 4: It is very very rare that court's overturn Commerce Commission hearings.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on newstalks.

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Speaker 4: They'd be so yeah, they were saying. More charges have

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Speaker 4: Correspondent murrayolds shortly now Russia has threatened to respond if

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Speaker 9: He said, be very careful with this question of long

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Speaker 4: And finally, a football coach in England is arranging an

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Speaker 10: The training ground area. People are telling me it's haunted. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: It always helps when the wife says sorry. Actually changes

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 4: Murray old Assie corresponds with us, hey nus, Good afternoon,

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Speaker 11: from Australia, not contact any of the alleged victims. He's

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Speaker 11: got plenty of support. Today James Packers come out and says, well,

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Speaker 11: Ellen Jones is a friend. He's entitled her the presumption

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Speaker 11: of innocence. Peter Credlin, you might know her from Sky News.

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Speaker 11: She's a bomb chucker on Sky News once upon a time.

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Speaker 11: Tony Abbott, his ex chief of staff. She said, completely

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Speaker 11: out of character for the man I've known for twenty years.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, out of the media know the

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Speaker 11: police were going to raid his home. Well, that's really

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Speaker 11: standard procedure, Peter, if you if you haven't caught up

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Speaker 11: with that. And Tina mccrean, she is a fruitcake, an

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Speaker 11: ex Liberal Party vice president who apparently was at Mara

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Speaker 11: Lago for the Trump victory party. Anyway, she used, allegedly

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Speaker 11: a used, according to The Sydney Morning Hero, encrypted social

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Speaker 11: media chat room to say the whole charges against Jones

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Speaker 11: absolute bs a disgraceful you know exactly. I mean, what

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Speaker 11: they're doing to Allen Jones is disgraceful. She was messaging

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Speaker 11: some other guy in the Liberal Party. So he's not

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Speaker 11: without friends still. But mister Jones eighty three years old,

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Speaker 11: very frail, and you can only imagine, you know exactly

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Speaker 11: what it's doing to him to say, afternoon, with that

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Speaker 11: court case penning in a month.

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Speaker 4: Listen mass how people feeling about Bunnings being busted using

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Speaker 4: the facial recognition and breaching the privacy of customers.

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Speaker 11: Look, it's a little bit new. I mean, this story

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Speaker 11: only broke today and I mean nobody to be fair,

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Speaker 11: this has been the subject of a two year investigation,

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Speaker 11: but it's fair to say it hasn't been you know,

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Speaker 11: high profile over here.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I wasn't even aware that.

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Speaker 11: The Bunnings, you know, the use of this stuff was

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Speaker 11: being investigated by the Privacy commissioner. But the commissioner says,

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Speaker 11: hang on a second, you're not allowed to repeat this behavior.

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Speaker 11: Everything you've found and collected must be destroyed. The Bunnings

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Speaker 11: had interfered quote with the privacy of hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 11: of customers by using this facial recognition technology without gaining

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Speaker 11: proper consent. Well, you know today's result, as I said,

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Speaker 11: today's announcement the result of two years of investigation the Bunnings.

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Speaker 11: You know, we're still waiting for them to come forward

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Speaker 11: and say, well, we did it because of this reason.

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Speaker 11: I've not heard that this afternoon. Maybe it's around. Certainly

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Speaker 11: the evening wash up of the news of the day

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Speaker 11: will contain this story. It's just a big yarn. And

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Speaker 11: if you're doing this without permission, you're not allowed to

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Speaker 11: interesting stuff.

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Speaker 4: MSS thank you appreciate it, Murriol's Ossie correspondent. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: to the Hquey and Barrysope is going to be with

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Speaker 4: us shortly to talk us through it. To the Hickoy,

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Speaker 4: David Seymour did go out he'd be numbing an ayeing

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Speaker 4: over where he was going to go out and humming

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Speaker 4: and hung and where he was going to go up

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Speaker 4: meet the Hikoy. And then he obviously decided he was

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Speaker 4: going to and when he walked out, Rawi Ytz was

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Speaker 4: addressing the coy and said, actually, I told David Seamore

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Speaker 4: not to come out. Bumped into them on the street yesterday,

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Speaker 4: said Nat, don't come. And anyway David had come. And

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Speaker 4: then basically the crowd shouted at David sea one until

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Speaker 4: he went back inside.

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Speaker 13: We got a.

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Speaker 14: Message to this garment, tell the well well.

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Speaker 4: Come and then Rawite he pulled his see you next

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Speaker 4: Tuesday stunt. Again we say to.

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Speaker 14: David cebo I, we'll see you next Tuesday. When I

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Speaker 14: sat down there, it was midday. So my sims to

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Speaker 14: you Tuesday.

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Speaker 10: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Barry Soper next sixteen away.

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Speaker 2: From five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 2: get payments.

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Speaker 4: Certainty Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US. Now, hey Barry,

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Speaker 4: good afternoon. So the Hikoy has everybody dispersed peacefully and

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Speaker 4: it's just grounds back to normal.

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Speaker 12: Well, I were quite shrewd, really because Waitangi Park they've

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Speaker 12: all gone to now, so there was another venue for

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Speaker 12: them to go to, and Parliament essentially has been cleared

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Speaker 12: of the protesters and that's a good thing. Although I've

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Speaker 12: got to say I thought the protest has given protests

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Speaker 12: here in the past. They were pretty well behaved. I

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Speaker 12: had to meander my way through the crowd to get

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Speaker 12: into the building, and you know, they were very polite.

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Speaker 12: When I was got slapt in the face a bit

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Speaker 12: by the Maori flags and the Wellington wind but that

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Speaker 12: was about as bad as it got. Interestingly, inside the house,

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Speaker 12: the speaker and I think it was the right thing

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Speaker 12: to do. He cleared the public galleries. He wouldn't allow

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Speaker 12: anybody to come in and witness what was going on

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Speaker 12: on the debating floor, and that's a good thing considering

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Speaker 12: what happened last week to that end. Here the three

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Speaker 12: Malori MPs, they've been complained about no surprizes. Guessing who

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Speaker 12: they are. It's Whitt of course, Packer and the young

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Speaker 12: twenty two year old who ripped up the treaty bill.

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Speaker 12: It was interesting that mightp Clark. She gave an interview

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Speaker 12: today that I was reading, and she said that she

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Speaker 12: wasn't the one that was meant to rip up the bill.

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Speaker 12: But I've been planning this protest for the past year,

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Speaker 12: which I found rather interesting. But the Standing Orders Committee

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Speaker 12: and this has a bit in house, but they will

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Speaker 12: look at the rules surrounding the behavior in Parliament.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 12: The difficulty is what can you do with people who

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Speaker 12: breach the current rule? Slap them on a wrist with

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Speaker 12: a wet bus ticket. That's about all they can do.

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Speaker 12: But they would like to be able to do more.

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Speaker 12: But it's difficult, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is, And I mean, so what is it

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Speaker 4: that they suggested because at the moment, Hannah RAFSI Mightpy

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Speaker 4: Clark is being docked what twenty four hours worth of

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Speaker 4: pay and suspended for twenty four hours? What else can

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Speaker 4: you do?

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Speaker 12: Well, not a hell of a lot, because you know,

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Speaker 12: when you've got a democracy, you know you've got to

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Speaker 12: allow people to speak, but not behave in the way

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Speaker 12: they did. But how do you prevent that? And that's

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Speaker 12: the difficulty. Shane Jones, he said he would like to

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Speaker 12: see a deterrent factor and I think we'd all like

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Speaker 12: to see that because I've never seen anything like I

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Speaker 12: saw last week in Parliament. But how do you deter them.

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Speaker 1: It's not that easy.

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Speaker 4: No, not at all. Okay, now the public are going

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Speaker 4: to have a say on the bill yet.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well now, of course the bill goes to the

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Speaker 12: Justice Select Committee, and that was in fact open today,

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Speaker 12: so public submissions for the next six months will be

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Speaker 12: heard now. David Seymour, he said that's a great thing.

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Speaker 12: Have I listened to him in the House this afternoon?

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Speaker 16: The Justice Select Committee is now seeking public submissions from

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Speaker 16: all New Zealanders on their views on the bill. This

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Speaker 16: is the first time in our history, mister Speaker, that

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Speaker 16: all New Zealanders have been offered an equal chance to

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Speaker 16: have to say on what our constitutional future means under

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Speaker 16: the Treaty of White Tonguey. And I'd encourage people to

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Speaker 16: get along to the Justice Committee website and have their

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Speaker 16: voice heard.

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Speaker 12: So I might not have gone as referendum, Heather, but

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Speaker 12: at least the public, if they want to, can now

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Speaker 12: have a say. And that's hope. It's a bit orderly

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Speaker 12: considering what we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 4: Marry tell me something. Read the he called today it

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Speaker 4: felt like weirdly and it's weird to say this because

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Speaker 4: thirty five thousand people turning up at the grounds of

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Speaker 4: Parliament is actually a pretty successful thing. But it felt

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Speaker 4: weirdly like a fizzer regardless, and that I think is

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Speaker 4: because thirty five thousand people had turned up for the

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Speaker 4: Dunedin protest over the hospital, right, and if you can

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Speaker 4: draw thirty five thousand people from the bottom of the country,

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Speaker 4: it kind of it makes you wonder why you can't

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Speaker 4: draw a bigger crowd from across the country for an

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Speaker 4: issue as contentious as this, right, Yeah, with all of

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Speaker 4: this media attention. But it's also I suppose because the

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Speaker 4: Huka was the main event that happened last Thursday. But

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Speaker 4: what was your feeling, I mean, has it been received

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Speaker 4: in Parliament?

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Speaker 12: Well, you've got to remember that this was a political protest.

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Speaker 12: It was organized by the Maldi party, so you know,

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Speaker 12: to get that number along was not a bad effort.

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Speaker 12: But around Parliament it was interesting sitting in the gallery

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Speaker 12: as I did this afternoon watching question time. It was

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Speaker 12: a quiet affair because, as I said earlier, the galleries

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Speaker 12: were empty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it was a.

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Speaker 12: Very orderly parliament this afternoon, and you know, I thought

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Speaker 12: that's exactly what should have happened. That you had the

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Speaker 12: separation out the front to the parliament inside the debating Chairman,

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Speaker 12: it's a pity that you couldn't have seen that orderly

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Speaker 12: conduct last week, Verry.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much, Bary So for senior political corresponding. It

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Speaker 4: feels like the wind's been kind of knocked out of it. Eight.

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Speaker 4: I'm nine away from five putting the.

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Speaker 2: Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 17: Perhaps we can argue that the crime wave and sense

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Speaker 17: of hopelessness weed and endured these past several years might

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Speaker 17: have finally come to a need police Minister Mirke Mitchell

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Speaker 17: as well as what are the areas that you are

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Speaker 17: still concerned.

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Speaker 18: About, basically the same things that we came in government.

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Speaker 18: It's the gangs, the fact that their numbers have grown,

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Speaker 18: the fact that they're a lot more violent, the carrying fiums,

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Speaker 18: are willing to use them, and just the general misery

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Speaker 18: at harm that are inflicting on the communities that they're in.

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Speaker 17: The ram raid issue which plagued just literally daily for

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Speaker 17: months on there, and that seems to be under control.

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Speaker 12: Or am I wrong?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 18: No, that's you're right. And look the reality of is

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Speaker 18: US crimes they're going to go away completely. As long

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Speaker 18: as humans have been around, there's bad people that do

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Speaker 18: bad things.

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Speaker 17: Back tomorrow at six am the Make Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 17: the Rain drove of the Laugh News talk Z.

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Speaker 4: Be Hey five away from five. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you remember, but in July we talked to a company

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Speaker 4: called Dawn Aerospace who'd just been given permission to fly

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Speaker 4: a pilotless rocket that they wanted to They thought that

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Speaker 4: they could break the sound barrier with it, and they

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Speaker 4: actually have. So they're going to be on the show

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Speaker 4: with us quarter past five to talk us through that.

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Speaker 4: Funnily enough, here the millions of people around the world

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Speaker 4: support the Hucker in Parliament. Jerry just doesn't want his

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Speaker 4: party to look weak for getting us into this mess

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Speaker 4: in the first place by not shutting the bill down

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Speaker 4: straight away. Sit down, Jerry, it's a bit late now.

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Speaker 4: The horse is truly well and truly bolted. That's from Renee. Okay,

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Speaker 4: here go Willie j Willy Jackson. By the way, who's

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Speaker 4: it is it? The Herald? The Herald has upgraded the

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Speaker 4: crowd number to fifty five thousand because the PSA, the

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Speaker 4: Public Service Association, who have absolutely no skin in the

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Speaker 4: game because they did not help organize the organizer the

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Speaker 4: he Coy. Nudge nudge, they say it's fifty five thousand.

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Speaker 4: Willie j has gone on the social medias he reckons

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Speaker 4: it's fifty thousand, but I think it's seventy. What do

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Speaker 4: you think, I mean, look at those no eighty eighty

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Speaker 4: eighty thousand, don't you think of a Look at that

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Speaker 4: crowd's size. I reckon it's yeah, that's more like it.

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Speaker 4: G's why why are they're underselling us like this? Right,

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Speaker 4: Willie Jackson Treaty Principles Bill. Labour hasn't misread the he Coy.

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Speaker 4: It's you who has, headed Duplissy Allen in The Herald.

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Speaker 4: In her latest column, News Talk Said B host Heather

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Speaker 4: Duplissy Allen claims Labor has misread the room by supporting

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Speaker 4: the he Coy because, according to her, Labour has lost

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Speaker 4: the middle ground because of the angry scenes inside and

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Speaker 4: outside of Parliament last week. What a load of nonsence.

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Speaker 4: It's not just a Marty Party protest. Everyone from Labor,

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Speaker 4: the Greens, the Unions and every demographic are represented. Even

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Speaker 4: National supporters who don't like this bill have come out

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Speaker 4: to denounce it. What if Welle it was organized by

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Speaker 4: He's just embarrassed it was organized by the Marty Party,

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Speaker 4: wasn't it? Because Edu Kappakinghi is a former Marty Party candidate,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to tell whether he still is on the

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Speaker 4: payroll of the Marty Party or has taken some time

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Speaker 4: off or was on the payroll. But he was on

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Speaker 4: the payroll of the Martyr Party and his mum's Marty

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Speaker 4: Party MP and the buses there. So whatever. Willie's just

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Speaker 4: embarrassed that he's having to basically follow, like jump on

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Speaker 4: the coattails of the Marti. Marty Party is doing everything.

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Speaker 4: Marti Party starts the hucker and then the lad guys

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Speaker 4: are like, oh, join the hacker quickly. Oh what do

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Speaker 4: a hucker do? Yeah? No, they're beating you. Al Teer

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Speaker 4: and Parliament have changed considerably. Middle New Zealand is no

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Speaker 4: longer a conservative right wing person who has a resentment

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Speaker 4: against Marty and immigrants. Now, that's not what Middle New

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Speaker 4: Zealand is about. Do you want me to tell you

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Speaker 4: what Middle New Zealand's about. Middle New Zealand is not

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Speaker 4: a racist. Middle New Zealand has got a cost of

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Speaker 4: living crisis going on. Middle New Zealand is trying to

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Speaker 4: get to work and pay the mortgage and they're getting

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Speaker 4: disrupted and they're seeing gang patches out there and there

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Speaker 4: the victims of crime and they don't like it and

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Speaker 4: they're scared they see the gang members there. They had

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Speaker 4: the people coming across the Harbor bridge. That's Middle New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Middle New Zealand does have time. They can't take time

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Speaker 4: off to go on. He he quar becus' got to pay

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Speaker 4: the bills, so whatever Willie David Carter with us next

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Speaker 4: News Talks at Beat, the.

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Speaker 2: Only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather due to Celand Drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected and youth talk as they'd.

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Speaker 4: Be right good afternoon. So there are calls now for

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Speaker 4: Parliament to lift the punishment for MPs who pull stunts

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Speaker 4: like last week's hucker. Both Shane Jones and David see

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Speaker 4: Will have asked the Speaker, Jerry Brownly to consider this.

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Speaker 16: I think some of the changes, particularly around the use

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Speaker 16: of social media, have changed the incentives for people's behavior

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Speaker 16: around the rules of Parliament.

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Speaker 4: Now David Carter is a former Speaker and is with us. Now,

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Speaker 4: Hey David, hi, Hi, Heather, would you agree with him

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Speaker 4: that what has happened now is you can get so

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Speaker 4: much reward on social media for pulling a stunt like

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Speaker 4: that that it makes it worthwhile.

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Speaker 13: I think that's probably the case, And Parliament has the

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Speaker 13: ability to amend rules. In fact that you're consider amending

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Speaker 13: the rules, but it's a process that should be taken carefully.

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Speaker 4: Carefully, yes, because democracy is important, right, So how far

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Speaker 4: can you push the punishment?

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Speaker 13: Well, the Parliament is the master of its own destiny,

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Speaker 13: so it has every right to change the rules and

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Speaker 13: make them quite severe. I wouldn't advocate doing it immediately

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Speaker 13: in response to the incident last week. What I would

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Speaker 13: suggest is that the Speaker give it some thought and

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Speaker 13: then perhaps give guidance to the Standing Orders Committee, which

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Speaker 13: it's every three years. That's a committee that's made up

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Speaker 13: of very senior members of Parliament, so opposition and government,

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Speaker 13: and I remember sharing that as the Speaker. What's very

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Speaker 13: clear as you chair those meetings is that all politicians

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Speaker 13: realize that they may well be an opposition at some stage,

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Speaker 13: so they make rules that actually make our parliament work.

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Speaker 13: So that'd be the opportunity the Standing Orders Review, that'd

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Speaker 13: be the opportunity to reconsider the penalties and whether they're appropriate.

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Speaker 4: So what is the most serious penalty that can be

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Speaker 4: copped at the moment for something like that, and what

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Speaker 4: would you move it to.

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Speaker 13: Well, the most serious penalty is to name a member

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Speaker 13: of Parliament, as was done the other day. What happens

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Speaker 13: then is the par the Speaker moves to name a

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Speaker 13: particular member of Parliament, Parliament votes on that, so in effect,

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Speaker 13: the peers are judging the behavior of that person. If

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Speaker 13: you are named for the first time, you are suspended

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Speaker 13: for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: If you are.

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Speaker 13: Named again through that parliament a second time, you're suspended

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Speaker 13: for seven days, and if you're named for a third time,

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Speaker 13: you're suspended for twenty eight days. Now not only is

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Speaker 13: your pay doc but you lose the right to sit

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Speaker 13: on a committee, you lose the right to vote in

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Speaker 13: Parliament over that period of time. So if you've ever

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Speaker 13: got a very tight parliament and a government member was

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Speaker 13: to be named, that could make it very difficult for

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Speaker 13: the then government to pass legislation. It's quite a severe penalty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, although if you're an opposition doesn't mean a lot,

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Speaker 4: does it.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't mean as much except well, this particular member

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Speaker 13: who's been named seems to see it as a badge

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Speaker 13: of honor. I don't think it's a badge of honor.

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Speaker 13: Not a lot of people get named through their parliamentary career.

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Speaker 13: But if you're in opposition, yes, I accept it's less meaningful.

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Speaker 13: But as I said earlier, Parliament has the right to

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Speaker 13: change those rules and make the penalties more severe than naming.

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Speaker 4: David, thank you so much for talking out through it,

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Speaker 4: David Carter. Former Speaker Heather Dudley allen So Foodstuffs has

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Speaker 4: announced it will appeal the Commus Commission's decision not to

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Speaker 4: allow its merger of its North and South Island operations.

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Speaker 4: Food Stuff's North Island CEO Chris quinn I was talking

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Speaker 4: to Kerry wood In this morning and said he doesn't

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Speaker 4: believe a merger will substantially less in competition, just like

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Speaker 4: the Commus Commission thinks it will.

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Speaker 6: These are two regional cooperatives.

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Speaker 19: We don't compete with each other in any way in

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Speaker 19: a retail market, and we don't compete to buy groceries

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Speaker 19: of supplieres now.

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Speaker 4: Neil Anderson is a competition lawyer at amb Competition Lawyers

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Speaker 4: and with US Now hey.

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Speaker 15: Neil, Hello.

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Speaker 4: He It's rare, isn't it for a court to overturn

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Speaker 4: a Commus Commission decision like this one, isn't it?

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Speaker 20: It is rare, But it's actually rare for it to

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Speaker 20: come in front of a court in the first place. Really,

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Speaker 20: not a whole lot of declines by the Commerce Commission

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Speaker 20: are appealed for practical reasons more than anything else.

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Speaker 4: Why do courts so rarely overturn them?

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Speaker 20: Well, I think it's partly what I just said, which

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Speaker 20: is there are very few instances of appeals actually been taken.

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Speaker 20: I think it's primarily that. So, you know, the commercial

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Speaker 20: parties by the time they've been through a clearance process,

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Speaker 20: you know, and then are faced with an appeal process

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Speaker 20: which may push them out a fair six months. It's

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Speaker 20: quite unusual for a deal to be able to survive that. Normally,

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Speaker 20: if you get declined, that's the commercial parties walk away.

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Speaker 20: So most declines of the Comments Commission aren't actually tested

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Speaker 20: in the courts at all.

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Speaker 4: So that would suggest that that that food stuffs believes

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Speaker 4: it has a strong case, right, because this is going

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Speaker 4: to cost them a lot of money and a lot

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Speaker 4: of time taking this to court, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it might be, but it may also just reflect

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Speaker 20: that they're not on a burning platform with their transactions.

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Speaker 20: So it's probably one that can be done at any time,

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Speaker 20: and you know they can wait. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 20: not another buyer and the wings or you know that

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Speaker 20: this is their only deal they have in front of them,

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Speaker 20: and you know they probably have the time to work

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Speaker 20: through to a conclusion for a deal that they obviously

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Speaker 20: think is their leable. So they're probably in a rare

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Speaker 20: position commercially to actually pursue their illegal rights.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Neil, thank you very much, really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 4: It's Neil Anderson, competition lawyer at amb Competition Lawyers. Heather

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Speaker 4: do for see Ellen, whether you sound very much like

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Speaker 4: someone who is bitter and because someone you don't like

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Speaker 4: has thrown a terrific party and you've not been included.

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Speaker 4: This is the heat court today, right, Just remind you

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Speaker 4: I did say it was very successful and it was

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Speaker 4: just kind of got eclips, didn't it by the hucker

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Speaker 4: and some other things anyway, we'll come back to the

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Speaker 4: punishment thing, and just to tack, I've got some bad news. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: if you care about kids vaping, this is not great.

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Speaker 4: Our numbers keep on rising on this. We do this

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Speaker 4: thing annually called the New Zealand Health Survey and attracks

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Speaker 4: the number of smokers you've got and the number of

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Speaker 4: vapors in the country, and it shows that we are

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Speaker 4: just every year the number of people are vaping every

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Speaker 4: single day is going up. So it has gone up

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Speaker 4: from nine point seven percent to eleven percent. We now

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Speaker 4: have an estimated four hundred and eighty thousand people in

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Speaker 4: the country every single day sucking on the end of

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Speaker 4: a us B stick to give them a bit of

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Speaker 4: a a nicotine kick. About a decade ago, and this

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Speaker 4: is where it's really alarming, right, that four hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty thousand today. A decade ago was only thirty three

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Speaker 4: thousand people. Now it's nearly five hundred thousand. Half a million.

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Speaker 4: Kids are the worst. The age groups that are climbing

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Speaker 4: the fastest are eighteen to twenty four, so that's that

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Speaker 4: kind of like just starting work, university age, and fifteen

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Speaker 4: to seventeen, so it's that the last few years of school,

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Speaker 4: those kids are hitting the vapes hard and fast. By contrast,

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Speaker 4: and this is where I'm disappointed about that about things,

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Speaker 4: is that we hardly pay any attention. Like it's we

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Speaker 4: really don't go hard on the vaping to try to

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Speaker 4: stop it. And it's just going up and up and

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Speaker 4: up and up, and we don't know what the health

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Speaker 4: effects are, so we ought to be actually cracking down

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Speaker 4: on that. Meanwhile, what have we been talking about ad

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Speaker 4: nauseum for the last few weeks? Oh, smoking policy, tax

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Speaker 4: banks of tobacco companies. Well, the smoking rate is sitting

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Speaker 4: at six point nine percent, hardly moved. It's just it's flatlining.

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Speaker 4: It's doing nothing. Give up on it. Worry about the vapors.

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Speaker 4: They are the ones we should be worried about.

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Kids? Fourteen past five? Hey, picture this, Okay, there's a

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Speaker 4: ute driving down the motorway. It's got a clothes dryer

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Speaker 4: strapped down in the tray and the dryer is plugged

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Speaker 4: into a socket in the side of the ute. Now

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Speaker 4: dryer is on and it's actually drying a load of

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Speaker 4: washing while it's like just cruising on the newmarket flyerver

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Speaker 4: as you do. This is not a dream. This is

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Speaker 4: not an imagination. Didn't happen in a movie. This actually

848
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Speaker 4: happened in Auckland. It's what the GM of BYD did

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Speaker 4: the other day showing off the BYD Shark six and

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Speaker 4: it's vehicle to load capabilities. Now, the Shark six is impressive.

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Speaker 4: This is New Zealand's first super hybrid ute. It is fast,

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Speaker 4: four hundred and thirty how horsepower to be exact, it's luxurious,

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Speaker 4: it's green and it is loaded with tech. The Shark

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Speaker 4: six is the ut I've been telling you about that's

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Speaker 4: got all the other ute makers shaking in their boots.

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Speaker 4: There are just ninety of these utes left at the

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Speaker 4: special launch price of sixty nine nine hundred and ninety

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Speaker 4: dollars plus on road costs, and if you order today

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Speaker 4: you can expect delivery in February twenty twenty five, so

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Speaker 4: you don't have that long to wait. There are three

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Speaker 4: colors available. You've got Great White, Tidal black or Deep

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Speaker 4: Sea blue. And of course they've got a full range

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Speaker 4: of accessories like the canopies and the hard lids and

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Speaker 4: all the other stuff you might like. So check it

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Speaker 4: out online at BYD Auto dot co dot Nz.

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Speaker 1: Heall duper c allen in past five.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they're going to close the Desert Road, aren't they

868
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Speaker 4: for two? Is it two months? Two months? Next year?

869
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Speaker 4: That's going to rip some mondies. Isn't it? For maintenance?

870
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: Everything's getting closed down. So anyway, we'll talk about that later.

871
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 4: I'll give you get you all the details. Now move

872
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: aside rocket Lab because New Zealand's next next big space

873
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: company might actually be a company called Dawn Aero Space.

874
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: You might remember these guys. We spoke to them a

875
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: few months ago when they were hoping to get permission

876
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 4: to fly at supersonic speeds. Well they got the permission

877
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: and they have flown at the supersonic speeds and this

878
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: makes them the first civil aircraft to break the sound

879
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: barrier since the Concord. Chief executive Stefan Powell is with us. Now, hey, Stephan, Hey,

880
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: how's it going good? Thank you? Did you hear the boom?

881
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 21: No, you don't actually hear the boom because it's unlike

882
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 21: a like the concord, which would break the sound verer

883
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 21: while going like dead horizontal. We do it going vertical.

884
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 21: We're going straight up, so that boom goes straight up

885
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Speaker 21: to space so you don't actually hear it on the ground.

886
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 4: Oh that's a bummer, isn't it. But I means I

887
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: suppose it doesn't affect the neighbors, and you know how

888
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 4: neighbors are in this country. So that's good. Okay. So

889
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: now that you've done it and you've got up to

890
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: I think it was twenty five k's, which is the

891
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: limit of what you can do, what do you do now?

892
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Speaker 21: Well, I mean, this really proves to all of our

893
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 21: key stakeholders, our customers, our investors, and critically CIA that

894
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Speaker 21: we can do this, and we can do it reliably,

895
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 21: we can do it safely. We're not we're talking about

896
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Speaker 21: the vehicle dynamics, you know, going through transonic that all works.

897
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Speaker 21: So that sets the stage for us to be able

898
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Speaker 21: to extend that certification ultimately up to above space, so

899
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Speaker 21: that this can be the first vehicle to fly to

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Speaker 21: space multiple times a day.

901
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: And when are you planning to be flying multiple times

902
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Speaker 4: a day?

903
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Speaker 21: You're not talking to publicly about timeframes because it's always

904
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Speaker 21: hard to predict exactly. But we'll be building the next

905
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Speaker 21: generation vehicle, which will look identical, but it's much more

906
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 21: optimal in performance, but more fuel on board higher thrust

907
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Speaker 21: engine that all to get to yeah space twice in

908
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Speaker 21: a day. We'll we building that vehicle next year.

909
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Speaker 4: Brilliant stuff. And the commercial clients are they paying a lot.

910
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Speaker 21: Well, they're certainly paying. They're certainly very interested in being

911
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 21: able to use this vehicle for all kinds of things

912
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Speaker 21: like microgravity experiments, testing out satellite technology, are doing atmospheric experimentation.

913
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Speaker 21: We're kind of just discovering what can you actually do

914
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Speaker 21: with this new class of ultra high performance aircraft. You know,

915
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Speaker 21: it's something that humanity has never really been able to

916
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Speaker 21: do reliably, is access you know, above the atmosphere but

917
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Speaker 21: where satellites fly. So it's really really unique capability with

918
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Speaker 21: lots of commercial applications.

919
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Speaker 4: Yeah, good stuff, hey mate, best of luck with that

920
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Speaker 4: and thanks for talking to us about it. Steffan Powell

921
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Speaker 4: of doorn Aero Space. Here, the closing the desert road

922
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Speaker 4: for two to three months will end up being four

923
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: to five months, no doubt. Well, it is MZTA and

924
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: it is New Zealand, and it is construction. Although that

925
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: trifector of things generally doesn't go well. And we're going

926
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Speaker 4: to speak to Roger Brady from NZTA. Actually he'll be

927
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Speaker 4: with us in about fifteen minutes, so we'll ask him

928
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Speaker 4: if that's going to happen. Five to twenty one.

929
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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

930
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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Allen drive with One New Zealand. Let's

931
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Speaker 2: get connected and news talk as that'd.

932
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Speaker 4: Be five twenty four listen on the subject of increasing

933
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Speaker 4: the punishment on the MP so that they don't pull

934
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Speaker 4: stunts like last week's hukker. I think it's fair enough

935
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: to go away and have a look at the rules

936
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Speaker 4: and see if we can modernize them, because yep, social

937
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: media has absolutely changed the game and it's made stunts

938
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Speaker 4: like that more appealing. But I'll be honest with you.

939
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Speaker 4: I can tell you right now it's not going to

940
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Speaker 4: work because I don't know how far you can push

941
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Speaker 4: the punishment to make it harsh enough. So it's not

942
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Speaker 4: you know, so it makes the stunt not worthwhile without

943
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: taking the punishment too far. Now, I'm just going to

944
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: give you some context here. I mean, we talked about

945
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: this yesterday. That Hucker stunt has proved to be incredibly

946
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 4: worthwhile for the Mardi Party. It's gone viral around the world. Right,

947
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: it has been watched at last get this seven hundred

948
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: million times and that is just on social media. A

949
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: friend I heard from today got in touch with me,

950
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Speaker 4: said she'd heard from her friend in Brazil asking what

951
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: it was about. A former colleague in Canada says her

952
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: friends in the town that she's working at the moment

953
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 4: are all talking about it. There have been Hekoy, support

954
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: of Hikoy in London, support of Hecoy and New York.

955
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: It's been on Jimmy Kimmel, It's been on Fox News,

956
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: It's been on the newspapers like the Guardian and the

957
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 4: Telegraph and all of that stuff. It's on CNN today,

958
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 4: it's running there today. And the punishment for doing that

959
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: thing that got all of that worldwide attention that anybody

960
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: would kill for loss of twenty four hours pay suspended

961
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: for Parliament for one day, named by Parliament. Oh named

962
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: by Parliament. Oh stop press. The kind of money right

963
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: that you get docked is in like twenty four hours pay.

964
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: You could not buy the kind of attention that the

965
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: Marti Party got with the money that she's just been docked.

966
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: There is no punishment in social media age I think

967
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 4: that is going to stop these kinds of stunts without

968
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: that punishment going too far. And that's a real consideration here, right,

969
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 4: you cannot take it too far. You cannot kick an MP.

970
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: You cannot just say right, that's it, you lose your

971
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: seat in the house, off you go. You can't do

972
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: it forever, and you can't even do it for a

973
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: really long period of time because these MPs, whether you

974
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: like them or not, are elected democratically. They have got

975
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 4: to be there to do the job for the people

976
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: who elected them. So whether you like that job or not,

977
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: this is how it works. You cannot get rid of

978
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: them just because they do something naughty. You can dock

979
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 4: their pay to a point, like maybe a month, like

980
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: David Carter was saying, but you can't dock it for

981
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: too long because at some point it becomes unaffordable for

982
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: that person to be able to live, and then you're

983
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: effectively forcing them out of the job by removing pay

984
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: from them. And again, it is a job that they

985
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: were democratically elected to do, so you cannot do that

986
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: if you go too hard. As well, remember this, you

987
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: just make a social media marta out of them. So

988
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you know my position is unchanged from what

989
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 4: it was last week. In the social media age, this

990
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: will not stop. This is what politics looks like right

991
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: now because the bigger the stunt, the more attention you get,

992
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: and the winner is basically whoever can offend the most

993
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: with whatever stunt they pull.

994
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen.

995
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: Now, somebody said to me today, ah, well, I was

996
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: just a haka in parliament. Who really cares. It's not

997
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: like they punched some It's not like you know when

998
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: to Henade and Trevor got into the fight where we're

999
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: well hang in a tack. Okay, because this still is serious.

1000
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: Somebody put this really well earlier this week, and I

1001
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: hadn't heard it put like this, but I think it's

1002
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 4: worth repeating. The reason that parliament is the original safe

1003
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: space is what they said, and I thought that's exactly right.

1004
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: Parliament is the original safe space where you can go

1005
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 4: and you can say whatever you need to say and

1006
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: you will not be hurt for it or punished for it.

1007
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: The King is not going to come in and cut

1008
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 4: your head off or send his knights and to kill you,

1009
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: which like was legit a threat back in the day.

1010
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 4: You can say whatever you need to say No, one's

1011
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: going to jump up, run across the room, punch you

1012
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: in the face. I'm not going to intimidate you. They're

1013
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: not going to threaten you. That's why we have these rules.

1014
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: That's why Julie and Jin' got in so much trouble

1015
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: for shouting at somebody's face in Parliament because it's a

1016
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: safe place where they're supposed to be able to do

1017
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: their job without threat of intimidation. And that's what happened

1018
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: last week. And actually, for the foundational stuff of democracy,

1019
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: that's a big breach the rules. Actually, you've got to

1020
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 4: take the stuff seriously. Headline's next.

1021
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: Hard Questions, Strong Opinion, Heather due for see Ellen Drive

1022
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: with one New Zealand Let's get connected and news talk

1023
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: as it'd be well.

1024
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: Yelling cold.

1025
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 9: Weather.

1026
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Speaker 4: Well, it's a lot a really interesting text that's just

1027
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: coming actually about it. It's adjacent to the protest, the

1028
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: he cooy and if you are like if you still

1029
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: like Willie Jackson, although I don't think many people are

1030
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: and still sort of like, No, I don't think this

1031
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: was a Maori party organized. I think the strengthens the

1032
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 4: case that it was a Marley party organized protest anyway,

1033
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: we'll get to that stand by. Also been a bit

1034
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Speaker 4: of a kerfuffle about kids who've been at the hea

1035
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 4: coret because there's lots of kids in there, like lots

1036
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: and lots of kids, and the Education Minister, Erica Stanford's

1037
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: not happy about this, and she's unhappy because the kids

1038
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: obviously at the hecoy means they're not at school and

1039
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: some of those kids, if they've done the whole hecoy

1040
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: for the last nine days or whatever, have actually missed

1041
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 4: a fair bit of school now, and she said they

1042
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: should be in school. And if they're not, if the

1043
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: schools are the ones who are closing down and sending

1044
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 4: them on the hecy, then they need to hack it.

1045
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 4: And that's an education outside the classroom activity. They need

1046
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: to ensure they have literacy and numeracy components to it. Well,

1047
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe they could send the kids out

1048
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: and count the crowd. They will be helpful to us,

1049
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: and that's a numerousy thing. Anyway, we'll have a chat

1050
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: to the huddle who are standing by and be with

1051
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: us shortly. It's twenty three away.

1052
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: From six Heather do for Sea Allen.

1053
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: Now I've got bad news for you if you are

1054
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: planning on driving State Highway One down the middle of

1055
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 4: the North Island this summer. NZTA is closing the Desert

1056
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: Road for two months from January sixth to late February.

1057
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: Ween too rangy and wyouru the detour that that's the

1058
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 4: part that will be close, and then the detour is

1059
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 4: likely to add more than half an hour to the trip.

1060
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 4: Roger Brady is from n ZTA.

1061
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 15: Hi Roger, Heather high good eating to you.

1062
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 4: Is there no way around this? You couldn't have done

1063
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: it any other.

1064
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 15: Time, Heather, We couldn't have done any other time. Really,

1065
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 15: it's tue the weather in that part of the country

1066
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 15: that that's the only time of the year we can

1067
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 15: actually fix that road.

1068
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: And do you have to fix the road like this

1069
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 4: extensively because this is quite big, isn't it?

1070
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 15: Well, this is this is actually a step change in

1071
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 15: the way that we're fixing the road. We're going to

1072
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 15: do four years of work in essence in a couple

1073
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 15: of months here, so instead of having long drawn out

1074
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 15: ongoing inconvenience, Yes, it's going to be inconvenience, but we're

1075
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 15: going to limit that inconvenience to two months and then

1076
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 15: we're going to get out of there and have double

1077
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 15: free molting on that stretch of road for years to come.

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Speaker 4: Well, when's the busiest time on that bit of road?

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Speaker 15: Okay? There is generally it's busier before Christmas and then

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00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 15: the first week of the new year. So we've skipped

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Speaker 15: that period and we've got a very short window of

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Speaker 15: weather opportunity. But we have pushed it back as far

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Speaker 15: as we can into January to start to ensure we

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Speaker 15: can finish the scope for working time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And I've already had texts to Roger saying, if

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Speaker 4: you're saying it's going to be two months, it's going

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Speaker 4: to be five what are the chances of a blowout?

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Speaker 15: Well, look, we've been working on this project north of

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Speaker 15: toker Row, and also we've had our targets so far

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Speaker 15: in terms of the program, So I'm confident two months

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Speaker 15: is two months and weather permitting a course, if we

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00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 15: I'm fortunate enough to have a cyclone. Perhaps not that

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Speaker 15: we're confident have it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And I know that I think it's the official

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00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 4: the official time that it adds to the journey. The

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00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: detour is twenty nine minutes, but a truck. You said

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Speaker 4: earlier it would it would add about an hour. Is

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00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: that more realistic?

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Speaker 15: Well, I think there's so many road conditions it's hard

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Speaker 15: to say definitively. Look, I would say if you work

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Speaker 15: on forty forty five minutes, I think that will be

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Speaker 15: more than enough time. That's some personal opinion, but to.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, Roger, for all of the pain that you're

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00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: putting us through, necessary pain. When we drive that road again,

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Speaker 4: are we going to just go wow, this is just

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Speaker 4: so great. Are we going to notice the difference.

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Speaker 15: You're definitely going to notice the difference here. You're going

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00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 15: to notice we've fixed the worst. The worst parts of

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Speaker 15: the road will be fixed. Yeah, and well I'm really

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00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 15: excited about opening it and we can actually show proof

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Speaker 15: of concept to people.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff. Hey, Roger, thanks very much for talking us through,

1113
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Speaker 4: and appreciate it. Roger Brady, who's with MZTA.

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Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand southerbast International Realty, local and

1115
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: global exposure like no other tuddle.

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Speaker 4: This evening, Allie Jones, Red pr and Tim Wilson of

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00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: the Maximums. Didu'e hire you two?

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00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 15: Hi?

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00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 22: Bo?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: There are you planning the old Big summer trip down

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00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 4: State Highway one. Then Tim.

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00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 22: Not after that conversation. Yeah, you know what I want

1124
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 22: to know. It's like, why four years, four years worth

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00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 22: of work? Who did it get to four years? Why

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00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 22: did they wait?

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00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 23: What's the explanation?

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Speaker 4: It's four years of potholes that you can just instead

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00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: of instead of having I thought it was just future proving,

1130
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: instead of having four years worth of potholes, you fix

1131
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: it now and then you don't have them for four years.

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Speaker 19: No, I took it the other way around. I'm taking

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00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 19: it the way that Tim's saying. I think it's deferring maintenance. Tim,

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00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 19: that's what local government, central government does to save money. Well,

1135
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 19: you know, in any one year, they defer maintenance.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it's pretty running the mill stuff. And even

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Speaker 4: if you did do the trip, Tem with four children,

1138
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: what have you got? Have you got yourself a van

1139
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 4: or something? Now? Tim, are you there? Tim? You've muted yourself. Jeez, Honestly,

1140
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: what a dad sick of the sound of his own voice? Well,

1141
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: isn't he anyway?

1142
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 12: Where we go?

1143
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 23: And that must have been you never give a phone

1144
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 23: to a child during a huddle.

1145
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: Okay, you blame the children. Yeah, that's really cool of you.

1146
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: What a guy.

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00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 23: That's why, that's why you have four You've got four

1148
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 23: excuses running.

1149
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: And also it took you such a long time to

1150
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 4: take the phone away from your face and unmuted. Did

1151
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 4: you forget where the mute button was?

1152
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 23: I had to climb a tree first, all right?

1153
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: Sa okay? Now listen Ali having a look at the

1154
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: hekhoy on the metric of numbers and how peaceful it was.

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00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: That was a success, wasn't it. Absolutely it was a success.

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Speaker 19: I've heard varying figures thirty five, forty five to fifty

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00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 19: five thousand, why stop there? Yeah, that's right. It will

1158
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 19: be one hundred thousand by six o'clock, I tell you.

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Speaker 19: But I think that's significant. I think the numbers none

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Speaker 19: of the nonsense that we've seen before, and I think

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Speaker 19: that's made a huge difference.

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Speaker 4: What's not to like about this?

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Speaker 19: This was people exercising their democratic right, being passionate about

1164
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Speaker 19: their heritage, standing up for something that's really important to them,

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Speaker 19: that they believe in. And it was all done. I

1166
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 19: haven't heard any arrest numbers or anything like that, but

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Speaker 19: it seems to have been done very peacefully.

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Speaker 4: And yet because of that timid feels like a fizzer.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I heard you saying that. I think you've got

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Speaker 23: You're onto something there.

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Speaker 22: In terms of the momentum that was established by the

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Speaker 22: Harker in Parliament, that's seven hundred million views and this

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Speaker 22: I want to see how it plays out during that

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Speaker 22: Select Committee hearing. So it's one thing to hold an

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Speaker 22: amazing event, and I've got to say civility was the

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Speaker 22: winner at the end of the day. You compare it

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Speaker 22: that much with say Minneapolis downtown Minneapolis in twenty twenty

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Speaker 22: with Black Lives Matter. I love how we transact and

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Speaker 22: negotiate racial issues. I think we're Actually we should pat

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Speaker 22: ourselves on the back. It's just how do you keep

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Speaker 22: the momentum going?

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Speaker 4: What do you like about the way that we transact

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Speaker 4: and discuss racial.

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Speaker 23: Issues in our country?

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Speaker 22: It's an argument within the family, so because the high

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00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 22: rates of intermarriage between Mary and non Mary. But in

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 22: the United States it's a fight between two families and

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Speaker 22: it's bitter.

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Speaker 4: But are you're not worried that it's going to get

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Speaker 4: because this is the thing that we keep hearing, is

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Speaker 4: that this is going to get really ugly before it's over.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, that does consern me, and particularly when you look

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00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 22: at you've got two minor parties who have seen a

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Speaker 22: big and essentially they're vying for the constituency of the

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Speaker 22: major parties. I'd say the two losers here are Labor

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Speaker 22: and National and they have been galvanized, galvanized and mobilized.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, we'll probably see more of this makes an effect.

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Speaker 22: What made the effect was the hark of the RW

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Speaker 22: breaking stuff. I wonder how much effect this will have.

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Speaker 4: What do you make, Allie, of David Seymour going out

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Speaker 4: and then getting booed back in.

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Speaker 19: The highly predictable I mean, what would you expect people

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00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 19: going to come up and give him a hug? I

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Speaker 19: don't think that was going to happen, and it didn't,

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00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 19: and he deserved it to be Frank.

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Speaker 4: Why did he Well, because oh.

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Speaker 19: No, actually that's wrong. I shouldn't have said that. I

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00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 19: don't I shouldn't have said that.

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Speaker 4: He stood, you are, You're going down the path? That

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00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: will one warning about it gets ration right.

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Speaker 19: It is irrational and it's really emotional because I just

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Speaker 19: find him so bloody annoying to be Frank, and so

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Speaker 19: I take that back. He came out, he stood up

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Speaker 19: and he spoke and.

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Speaker 4: He should get credit for that.

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Speaker 19: However, you know it was going to be hostile crowd.

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Speaker 23: He was never going to be well received, imour.

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Speaker 22: David Seymour does. He does like a disagreeable crowd, and

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00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 22: so there is there is some of that there. Let's say,

1220
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 22: and I guess to that end, I you know, you

1221
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 22: look going back to the Harker as well, there's a

1222
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 22: performative aspect and we'll probably get to the behavior in

1223
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 22: the house and that's what we've got to beware of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, let's get to the behavior in the house.

1225
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Speaker 4: We'll take a break and come back and do that.

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Speaker 2: Quarter two The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

1227
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: elevate the marketing of your home.

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Speaker 4: Back of the Huddle, Tim Wilson and Alie Jones, Right, Tim,

1229
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: you were raising the behavior in Parliament and possibly increasing

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Speaker 4: the punishment to stop these kinds of social media stunts again,

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Speaker 4: can you.

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Speaker 22: Though, Yeah, look to your and your point is you

1233
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 22: can't stop MP's being in there. But there's been recently

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Speaker 22: this fascinating innovation that prevents students at school from being distracted,

1235
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 22: being lonely and performative. It's called a phone ban. Ban

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 22: the phones. They can't take the phones into the house.

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00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 22: You have to rely on Parliamentary TV. That's like CCTV.

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00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 22: There's no drama there. Don't you worry about that. Ban

1239
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 22: the phones?

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Speaker 4: But tim they shared they shared official So what they

1241
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: shared was, as far as I could see, was official

1242
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: video that had been taken by like the news media

1243
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: or Parliamentary TV. So banning a phone is not going

1244
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 4: to stop. It isn't as long as the video exists.

1245
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: It's sharable.

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Speaker 23: That's that's true.

1247
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 22: But I have heard from from some MPs that suddenly,

1248
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 22: you know, you see a cluster of cameras over in

1249
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 22: the public gallery and then you know something's up. So

1250
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Speaker 22: I think maybe we need to control that stuff a

1251
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Speaker 22: bit better.

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Speaker 4: What do you reckon, Allie? Can you actually punish the

1253
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Speaker 4: MPs ever sufficiently to stop them from pulling stunts like this?

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Speaker 13: Not sufficiently?

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Speaker 19: No, And I mean I see some of this kind

1256
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Speaker 19: of behavior nowhere near like this, But I see some

1257
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Speaker 19: of this at local government level as well. In fact,

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Speaker 19: I see it more in.

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Speaker 4: The public gallery.

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Speaker 19: But you know, applauding people when they speak and things

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Speaker 19: like that is really distracting when you're sitting and considering papers,

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Speaker 19: and it's really disrespectful. But I'm really interested that David

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Speaker 19: Seymour was calling this stuff out, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 19: do you remember badge Gate, You remember the badge that.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, where they were wearing badges. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 19: I mean that was should be something that a four

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Speaker 19: or five year old would take joy in doing, so,

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Speaker 19: you know, if you and that was all done for

1270
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Speaker 19: the coverage as well, the act badge and the taking

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Speaker 19: photographs and in the house, so you know, I think

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Speaker 19: this is a bit of people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.

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Speaker 19: But I did hear your piece earlier hither and I

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Speaker 19: completely agree with you. I actually don't have a problem

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Speaker 19: with the hakker in Parliament. I think that this shows.

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Speaker 23: Passion.

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Speaker 19: I think it shows someone represents the representing their constituency.

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Speaker 19: There was no violence, there was no swearing, there was

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Speaker 19: you know, I actually don't have a problem.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me put this to you. Let me put

1281
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Speaker 4: this to you. Hypothetical future situation. We have a party

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Speaker 4: that's elected to Parliament who are anti trans. We're debating

1283
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Speaker 4: a trans bill, and a trans MP is up speaking

1284
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Speaker 4: and one of the members of the Anti Trans party

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Speaker 4: comes and does a hucker right in front of the

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Speaker 4: trans person, you're going to be okay with that to

1287
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Speaker 4: an intimidate them as you gotta flip it and you've

1288
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: got to flip it around alley and you have to

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Speaker 4: look you have to look at it the other way around,

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Speaker 4: because everybody looks at David Seymour and they think, oh,

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Speaker 4: he's a tough guy, he can handle. Yeah, he can

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Speaker 4: handle because he's he's he looks like a white bloke,

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Speaker 4: even though Marty.

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Speaker 19: But if you're having that argument, but if you flip

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Speaker 19: it around argument because you what you only let people

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Speaker 19: who have got really thick skin and can man.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I don't think you understanding what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying is if you're okay, if it's good

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Speaker 4: for the goose, if it's good for for that guy

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 4: you can handle, then you have to flip it around

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 4: and ask if it's a vulnerable person in a vulnerable

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 4: situation standing there, are you still okay with the same behavior.

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Speaker 19: So is the person speaking in parliament and MP or not? Yes, okay,

1304
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Speaker 19: Well my comment stands and you've got to have a

1305
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 19: thick skin to get in there and talk about things. Now,

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 19: your example of a trans person I think is inflammatory,

1307
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 19: but I know why you're doing it, and I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just think that they are amongst the most vulnerable

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Speaker 4: people in this in society.

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Speaker 22: I do think time, and I've got to say I

1311
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 22: do think many many MPs that I talk to. The

1312
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 22: atmosphere often sounds corrosive, and I don't know if it

1313
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 22: actually adds to our I guess our ability to bring

1314
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 22: in vulnerable people because all you have is.

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Speaker 23: A bunch of thick skin bullies juking it out.

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Speaker 22: I agree in the contest of ideas, but how we

1317
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 22: do it really matters. And if the guardrails protect the powerful,

1318
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 22: then when the week become powerful, they'll also protect the week.

1319
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 19: Yes, it degrees, though, Tim it's degrees. I'm not suggesting

1320
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Speaker 19: that you're going to have thick skin bullies in there

1321
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 19: that take jaw out of you know, hurting and bullying

1322
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 19: other people. But I'm also suggesting that I don't think

1323
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 19: what source for the goose is the source of the gander.

1324
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 19: What are we going to do next? Band the huker

1325
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Speaker 19: and rugby Because it's too intimidating for the other team.

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Speaker 23: Let's let's enforce.

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Speaker 22: Let's enforce hugging a member of the opposition, so they

1328
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 22: have to hug each other and they won't like it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Ali, I mean, you do understand we're

1330
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: not banning the hacker from parliament. It already is. In

1331
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: the way that it was used there was contrary to

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 4: the rules.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I know, but I think it's the same as.

1334
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: Judy and gener going and shouting in somebody's face. Like

1335
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: if you think it's okay to hucker and the floor

1336
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 4: of Parliament, then then by extension, it's okay for Julian

1337
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: to cross the floor and go yell at somebody, because

1338
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: that's literally the same thing according to Parliament.

1339
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 23: Feel we're getting up on Ellie. I feel like we're

1340
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 23: getting up. Also, it was.

1341
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Speaker 22: No I just also, it was not just some spontaneous outpouring.

1342
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 22: It was absolutely stage managed and and it was it

1343
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 22: was to shut someone down, and Parliament shouldn't be a

1344
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 22: place where you shut people down.

1345
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 23: You should be able to conten.

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01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 19: Let the voters decide next time. I still don't really

1347
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 19: have a problem with it. No one was hurt. It's

1348
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 19: showing passion and it's showing commitment to an issue. I

1349
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 19: think it does show a degree of disrespect if you're

1350
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 19: using the example of shouting and Jillian gender or Jullian

1351
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 19: gender shouting in someone's face.

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Speaker 4: But let the voters decide. All right, guys, listen. Thank you,

1353
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 4: sorry Ali for ganging up on you. Thank you Tim

1354
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 4: for calling us out on that. It's not how we

1355
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: roll here. Allie Jones re jested us, what are we talking? No,

1356
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 4: I'm just joking. Allie Jones read pr Tim Wilson, Maximum Institute,

1357
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 4: seven away from six.

1358
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Speaker 1: Red or Blue?

1359
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: Trump or Harris? Who will win the battleground states? The

1360
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: latest on the US election? It is Heather Duplicy, Alan

1361
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected, use talks'd.

1362
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 4: Be here on behalf of the Wellington hospit industry. We

1363
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: would like to nominate David Seymour as the Wellingtonian of

1364
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 4: the Year because he is single handedly ensured that every

1365
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: cheap and cheerful restaurant is busy and most hotels are

1366
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 4: full tonight, and he is more successful for Wellington than

1367
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 4: cold Play with he can't be more successful for Wellington

1368
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 4: than cold playworth for Auckland one hundred and fifty thousand

1369
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 4: people went to Gold Black, although to be fair, we

1370
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 4: don't know how many of them were out of towners,

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: so but I suspect it might be more than thirty five.

1372
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Speaker 4: We don't even know what the protest crowds when the

1373
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 4: protest crowd could be eighty thou by the time six

1374
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 4: o'clock rolls around, so we'll see. Anyway, take your point.

1375
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 4: It's done quite well for you guys. Listen, I've been

1376
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 4: getting the absolutely taking heat at work. I told you

1377
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 4: at the start of the program. I put up a

1378
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: Christmas tree today. Taking heat for putting up the Christmas

1379
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 4: tree today. Now I'll win to bunangs. I don't even

1380
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 4: spend that much money. By the way, they've got a bargain.

1381
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 4: It's like pre garlanded with all the lights and stuff

1382
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 4: for just one hundred bucks, and get the tree and

1383
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 4: the lights for one hundred bucks and like minimum hassles.

1384
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 4: You just got to hang the bullbulls, put the star

1385
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 4: on as long as the two three year old doesn't

1386
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: stand on the bullbles, which is a problem anyway. I'm

1387
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 4: copping flak for it because apparently you're supposed to. The

1388
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 4: German at work says that you wait till Christmas Eve.

1389
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 4: But this is the Germans, right, you know, like you

1390
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 4: don't want to have too much fun because you might explode.

1391
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: So anyway, they put it up Christmas Eve and then

1392
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 4: they keep the tree all the way through until January

1393
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: the sixth, and then it's got to come down. I mean,

1394
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 4: you've still got life in that pine tree. If you've

1395
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: got a real one at January the sixth, that's an

1396
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: epic waste of money. Also, I'm going to spend the

1397
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: next probably three or four days trying to convince she's

1398
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 4: got a toddler. I'm trying. I'm going to try to

1399
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: convince her to not suck the life out of her

1400
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 4: toddler's life and give her the tree early. That's why

1401
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 4: you put the tree up, right, because the kids love

1402
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 4: it and then you start getting them in the vibe. Anyway,

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01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: So Tod was not even going to remember it, Oh

1404
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 4: my gosh, And please never have children, you're It's not

1405
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 4: about whether they remember it or not. It's about making

1406
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 4: the moment fun for them right there.

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Speaker 24: The fair, I'm not playing the Christmas look.

1408
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 4: For the child to be it and go. I'm not

1409
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 4: going to come and cuddle you all night because if

1410
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 4: I do, you won't remember it because you're only one

1411
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: who helped save me from the people that I work with. Please, hey,

1412
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: we'll talk about rubbish fires. Next news talks they be.

1413
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: We're a business inside the business hour, we're the the

1414
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: duplessyl and my hr on news talks be.

1415
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 4: Even in coming up in the next hour, Brad Olsen's

1416
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 4: going to talk through the job vacancies. Looks like things

1417
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 4: might be bottoming out. That's some good news. There's a

1418
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: little bit of surprise over how much Auckland authorities are

1419
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 4: going to limit development in the city. I'm going to

1420
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: get you across that and then end of Brady. Obviously

1421
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 4: in the UK for US seven past six now there

1422
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 4: are calls for urgent action on old batteries because the

1423
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 4: number of battery fires at waste and recycling facilities has

1424
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: gone through the roof this year. It's probably sparked they think,

1425
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 4: by more and more lithium ion batteries from the likes

1426
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 4: of old phones, vapes and so on being thrown in

1427
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: the rubbish. Nick Quilty is the chief executive of Wastemans

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 4: and with us. Hey, Nick, hi here, how I am,

1429
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm well, thanks? How many more fires, are you saying.

1430
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: Well, in Auckland alone, in the first quarter of this

1431
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: year there were nine fires triggered by batteries, and there

1432
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: were thirteen in the whole of last year, so you

1433
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: can see that they're just increasingly increasing, quite rapidly.

1434
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 4: And do you think these are caused by like the

1435
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: batteries and vapes rather than your Triple A's.

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01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: Look, they could be anything. They could be vapes, batteries

1437
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 3: and vapes. They could be in your mobile phone, they

1438
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: could be in laptops, they could be in iPads, they

1439
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: could be in consoles, they could be from kids' toys.

1440
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 3: Batteries that are just prolific, and we're just buying more

1441
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 3: and more electronic goods. So it's just getting becoming a

1442
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger problem.

1443
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: So do you know which of the two is worse?

1444
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: If you chuck your vapor in the rubbish, is that

1445
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: as likely to spark a fire as if you chuck

1446
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 4: your old Triple A battery lock.

1447
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 3: I don't think any of them are good. I'll tell

1448
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: you what happens once they end up in you. If

1449
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: someone puts them in their rubbish bin or their recycling bin,

1450
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: that ends up at curbside. A truck then picks that up.

1451
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: If it ends up in a rubbish truck, it's going

1452
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 3: to be squashed, it's going to be compacted. It could

1453
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: be punched, it could be shredded, it could be soaked

1454
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 3: in liquids. Also happens in the recycling truck as well.

1455
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: And then what happens is all of these batteries, well

1456
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: some of them but can get very hot. And then

1457
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 3: what happens is they ignite and they can cause fires.

1458
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 4: Nick, I'm going to give myself away here. What a

1459
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: what are you has to do with your battery lock?

1460
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you need to do. So Wasteman's

1461
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: we're an industry body. We work with a Waste Resource

1462
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: for covering contaminated land sectors. We have a map on

1463
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: our website. We've got a working group that is working

1464
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: on this and it shows you where you can take

1465
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,879
Speaker 3: your batteries. Most of the facilities are free of charge.

1466
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: Some of them cost a little bit of money, but

1467
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: not much. That's the best thing to do, but you

1468
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 3: need to contact. Once you found which facility is closest

1469
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: to you, you contact the facility and you just find

1470
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 3: out what the process is, what you need.

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 4: To do, or you drop them off.

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 6: I know, and look, this is a problem.

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: I think what happens is people just take the easy

1474
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 3: road and they go, oh, I don't want to drive anywhere.

1475
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: I just want to just get rid of them. I

1476
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: want them out of my house.

1477
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 4: Now you're telling me I've got to make a phone

1478
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 4: call first, and then I've got to drive, and then

1479
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 4: I may have to pay money, whereas I could just

1480
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 4: go to the kitchen, open the bin and check it in.

1481
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: Well, you could, but you could cause a fire, cause

1482
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 3: a fire. Could you could? Number one, you could hurt

1483
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 3: someone who's collecting the rubbish and the ends up a

1484
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 3: fire in their truck. You could hurt a member of

1485
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 3: the public who happens to be near the recycling truck.

1486
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 3: You could damage the infrastructure where the fire has taking place.

1487
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 3: So you know that's not great.

1488
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 4: So how do we get around this issue?

1489
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1490
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 4: We have a major obstacle admin obstacle there to get

1491
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 4: rid of batteries. So how do you get around that?

1492
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 3: So what we want, because there's no national direction for

1493
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 3: battery disposal, So what we want is we want the

1494
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 3: government to prioritize a mandatory product stewardship scheme for small batteries.

1495
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 3: And when I say small batteries, I mean under five kilograms.

1496
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 3: And then what would happen is the cost of disposing

1497
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: that battery would be included in the price that you

1498
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 3: would pay when you purchase a battery, and this very

1499
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: small increase could be used for more infrastructure and public messaging,

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: and that public messaging would be consistent across all of

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 3: New Zealand because at the moment, because there's no national direction,

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Speaker 3: all the messaging is just different depending on what region

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: you go to, and people just get really confused. And

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons why people throw them in

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01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: their bins and put them out of Coopers Neck.

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01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 4: I just got a text saying here the Bunnings takes them.

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: Everyone loves a trip to Bunnings, So yeah, take them, Yes, yes,

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 4: say that Bunnings takes.

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Speaker 3: Will There's lots of others that take them as well,

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01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: might attend take them Phoenix Recycling. There's a whole lot

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: of I mean, for some people they might not have

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01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 3: a Bunnings it's close to them, especially in some of

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01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 3: those really small areas, but yes, Bunnings does take them,

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01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: and they take them free of charge.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 4: There we go. That's the problem solved, Sunnings and might

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 4: attend that's Nick quality of Wasteman's the chief executive. Stop

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 4: throwing your batteries. Stop throwing them in the rubbish you

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01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 4: heard now Listen. There has been talk for quite a

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 4: while and so this is not altogether new, the idea

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01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 4: that Auclan Council cannot handle expanded developments right in parts

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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 4: of the city because they just don't have the infrastructure

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01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 4: and they can't afford the infrastructure, whether it means laying

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: more pipes or laying laying more road or street lamps

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01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 4: or whatever. All of that stuff is expensive in Auckland.

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01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: Council's just really kind of not into it, and so

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 4: therefore we can't expand into brownfields and green fields and

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: stuff like that. But now we've got an idea of

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01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,480
Speaker 4: really how limited it is, and just with water infrastructure,

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: water Care is put out a map of where they

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: can actually allow more development to be and where they can't.

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: And frankly it's surprising because there are huge sections of

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01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 4: the city in Auckland that just cannot handle any more building.

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01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 4: For example, on the Hibiscus coast. Anyone who doesn't have

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 4: a resource consent already is going to have to wait

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 4: another five or six years twenty thirty one before they

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 4: can get themselves a waste water connection. So that six

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 4: years without anything happening at all, Right, that's quite quite astounding,

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01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 4: quite a long period. So I'm going to talk to

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 4: a developer about it. Will bear us Just up to

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01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 4: half past six right now, it's thirteen.

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: Past analysis from the ex bringing you everything you need

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: to know on the US election. It's the Business Hour

1545
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 2: with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Ehr Solution for busy

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01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: SMEs used talks.

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Speaker 1: They'd be.

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 12: Right.

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01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 4: It's coming up sixteen past six now. Job ads have

1550
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 4: fallen for three months in a row. There is hope

1551
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 4: that this might actually be the end of the thing.

1552
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: We might be seeing a bottoming out here. And Brad

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 4: Awson is informetric principle economist. Hey, Brad, good evening, what

1554
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 4: makes you think we're seeing light at the end of

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 4: the tunnel here?

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 25: Well, I mean, things do seem like they might be

1557
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 25: stabilizing a touch. Some of the fools are in the

1558
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 25: last couple of months haven't been as huge as what

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 25: they were if you go back to earlier in twenty

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01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 25: twenty four, and so when you look at the latest

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 25: SEEK data, it does seem to suggest again maybe a

1562
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 25: little bit of that bottoming out or stabilization. To be fair,

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 25: it's at very low levels. I mean, the number of

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 25: job ads out there in the market at the moment

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 25: the lowest since May twenty thirteen on my calculations, excluding

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 25: that big hit from the lockdown.

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 4: So you know, it might be.

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 25: Stabilizing, but it's stabilizing very very low.

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you make of the fact that there's

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 4: been a bounce up in Wellington?

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Speaker 25: There are some odd figures looking through here, Heather, and

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 25: it's sort of you know, does make you wonder if

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 25: there are parts of the economy that are perhaps doing

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01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 25: better than we give them credit for. I mean, the

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 25: likes of that Wellington increase a little bit surprised and

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 25: giving a lot of the doom and gloom. The other

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 25: one that really surprised me was the fact that job

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01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 25: ads in government and defense have lifted for the last

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 25: two months. In fact, they are up fifteen percent month

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 25: on month in October, so PEPs things may maybe not

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 25: quite as bad. Also, I think probably highlighting that in

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 25: government there has been a lot of change, perhaps a

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 25: lot of people that have lost their jobs, and maybe

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 25: now government departments trying to rehire in a few areas

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 25: where they realize that they need a little bit more capacity.

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 25: Long story short, this is still not great news for

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 25: the economy. Job numbers are still down, job ads are

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 25: still down, and a lot of people are putting in

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 25: applications for what are fewer and fewer opportunities. But again

1590
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 25: a little bit of that turning point starting to become

1591
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 25: clearer in the numbers, which might be again reinforcing that

1592
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 25: view of greener shoots next year.

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Speaker 4: Now, apart from obviously government and defense, which are the

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01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 4: two places in Wellington that are hiring, what else is

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 4: I what other sector is are we talking about here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: I mean in the latest month, so this is October data,

1598
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 25: the biggest sort of gain was for banking and financial

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 25: services up eighteen percent month on month, and a few

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Speaker 25: more again changes around to the likes of design and architecture,

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01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 25: call centers, hospitality. So again maybe just some of those

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01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 25: areas that possibly got hit a bit harder at the

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01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 25: start that are now turning around the other side. When

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 25: we've looked at activity compared to say, a year ago.

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 25: Some of the areas that are leased hit are the

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 25: likes of banking, design, legal and farming the worst hit,

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 25: though again probably of no surprise. The likes of advertising

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01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 25: rolls down about fifty three percent year on year, consulting

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01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 25: in strategy down thirty seven percent, and admin rolls down

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 25: thirty five So business is still being a lot tighter

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01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 25: on how much much money they're willing to put out

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 25: in the economy. But again maybe signs that things aren't

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01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 25: continuing to get as much worse and perhaps than that

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 25: turning point starting to come around.

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Speaker 4: Brad, it's good to talk to you, mate, Thank you

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01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 4: so much. It's Brad Olsen, principal economic economist at Informetrics.

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 4: I'm going to get to you to get this text

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 4: to you that I was telling you about, and just

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 4: to take out just very quickly. Here's an idea. Heather

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01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 4: makes supermarkets collection points. That is a fantastic idea because

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 4: basically I'm already getting text going now the rubbit, the

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 4: battery is going in the rubbish is far too hard

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01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 4: and really, like I'll be honest with you, it is

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 4: far too hard. Apart from going to Bunnings, which is

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01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 4: like mildly easy because you go there all the time.

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 4: It's actually miles too hard to be calling somebody then

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 4: driving there, then paying them in the whatever. So supermarkets

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 4: should be the collection points because it's the where do

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 4: we go every week? Every week you go to the supermarket.

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Speaker 4: Even if you have your supermarket stuff delivered to you,

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01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 4: you go to the supermarket, don't you, So then what

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Speaker 4: you wanted. And if you are a parent of toddlers,

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 4: you don't want the batteries lying around in the house

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01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: for too long, do you, because it's stayed and then

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01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: you've got to somehow five you've really got the batteries

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 4: up high where the kids can't get them. Now you

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01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: have to have another set of batteries up high, and

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Speaker 4: you have to remember which ones are the new ones

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 4: and which one of the od It's very complicated.

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Speaker 12: So you just.

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Speaker 4: Basically want to have them in the house for a

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 4: few days, take them to the supermark. So whoever came

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01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: up with that idea, would you also like to have

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 4: a job at Wasteman's because you're actually quite bright? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

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Speaker 2: my HR the HR solution for busy smys on news Talks.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this text came in a little while ago and

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Speaker 4: we had to just check out that everything stacked up

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Speaker 4: with this text to make absolutely sure that we were

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: that what the information in that we were going to

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Speaker 4: give you was accurate. Right, so we have this is

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 4: a little bit of detail. It says about the Toyitu

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 4: Tetriti Hikoi, which is what that he coy is called.

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01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 4: The legal status says the text of Toyitu Tetriti is

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01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 4: a registered company. It was incorporated on the sixteenth of

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01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 4: September this year. So what's that two months ago by

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 4: Kitty Tamaheri y t t who happens to be the

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01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 4: wife of Rahwori ytt and also the daughter of the

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01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 4: Mari Party president John Tomahere she used her name Christina

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 4: ross Wikettoria Tamaheri. The sole director and sole shareholder is

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01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 4: Christina Tamaherre. It goes on with various other details that

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01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 4: appear to be irrelevant, but the main point here is

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 4: the toy To Tetarti Hikoi is organized by Eru Kapakini,

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 4: who works for the Marta Party or did work for

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 4: the Mary Party and is on the parliamentary payroll. He

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: was a candidate of the Maori Party. He's also the

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: son of a Marta Party MP and and it's also

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01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: organized by Christina Tamaheri wait Titi, the wife of a

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: Maori Party MP and the daughter of the Maori Party president. Now,

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: the question the text then asks, is is this a

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01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 4: fundraiser for the Mari Party? What's going on here? Well,

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 4: actually that's a very good question because if you go

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 4: online and have a look at the website for two

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01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: tetarriti well filia boots, you could buy a lot of merchandise.

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01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 4: So there's a T shirt for fifty five bucks. There's

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 4: a tongue ta te Ti T shirt for fifty bucks.

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01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 4: This is a koha just give a donation for ten bucks.

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 4: I'm so I'm the sovereign T shirt fifty bucks and

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: carries on hoodies for a barks, so on and so on.

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 4: So you know, looks like there's some money to be

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 4: made off this. So if anybody ever says to you,

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01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at you, Willie Jackson, this is not

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01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 4: organized by the Maori Party. Hello Lo Lo Lo Lo.

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01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 4: And what makes us even more funny is that Willie

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01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 4: Jay and Chippy and all those other people in the

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01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 4: Labor Party have turned up to a protest that's organized

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01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 4: by the Maori Party. That is making money. It would

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 4: appear for possibly the Maori party. So yeah, good work

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01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 4: helping your enemies that talk about how naive can you

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01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 4: possibly be? Anyway? Hither as well as making supermarket and

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01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 4: that's the end of the hecoy. Have you had enough

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01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 4: of it today? I feel like I have, so I

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01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 4: think we'll let it rest there Hither, as well as

1713
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 4: making supermarkets, the collection points for the batteries get all

1714
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 4: con counseled to get rid of the stupid, not not

1715
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: fit for purpose food scrap bins. Yes, do you know

1716
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 4: what I have managed? I don't know how long that

1717
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 4: thing's been sitting at my house. I have not used

1718
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 4: it once and still have no intention. Hands up? Who

1719
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 4: hasn't used their green the little baby Barbie sized green bin?

1720
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 20: Me?

1721
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 4: Now, do you realize this is fascinating? Okay, I know

1722
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 4: a lot of people will realize this, but do you

1723
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 4: realize that time zones and a whole country having the

1724
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 4: same time is actually like a reasonably modern thing. The

1725
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 4: US used to have one hundred and forty four different

1726
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 4: time zones, and the UK also had dozens until as

1727
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 4: recently as about eighteen eighty. Now, the reason I'm telling

1728
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 4: you This is because there was an article in the

1729
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 4: BBC today about this and it reminded me that this

1730
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 4: was one of the most fascinating things that I'd read

1731
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 4: when I was reading the book Sapiens, which if you

1732
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 4: haven't read it, it's a little history of mankind, is

1733
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 4: absolutely fascinating. It reminded me. I didn't tell you at

1734
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 4: the time about this, and I thought it was really interesting,

1735
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 4: and I know the history buffs will know it. I'm sorry.

1736
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 4: But anyway, how it used to work was that every

1737
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 4: town used to have its own time, right in the

1738
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 4: US and the UK, and it was basically they'd look

1739
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 4: up at the sky and they go, oh, the sun's

1740
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: at midday. That's at its height, so it's midday, and

1741
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 4: every town would be slightly different. So for example, Auckland

1742
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 4: might go it's nine o'clock and Hamilton be like, that's

1743
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 4: nine thirty, and were exactly the same time of day,

1744
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 4: same point in the day, but that would have different

1745
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: time zones. And in the US, as I said, they

1746
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 4: had one hundred and forty four different times, but it

1747
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 4: didn't really matter because people didn't travel that far back then,

1748
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 4: so you would never really come across a different time zone.

1749
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 4: But then trains arrived, and they arrived when they arrived.

1750
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 4: The railways were laid real fast, and then obviously you

1751
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: couldn't have different time zones because nick minute, you're gonna

1752
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: have trains colliding with each other and stuff like that.

1753
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 4: So they had to set a time. So they set

1754
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 4: a national railway time so you could be in the

1755
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 4: same you'd be in in your town. You could be

1756
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 4: in your town and be like, oh it's nine thirty,

1757
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: but the railway time is eight thirty, so you'd be

1758
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 4: rolling these different times. Anyway, I'm not even finished with

1759
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 4: the story. Stand by, I'll tell you some moren just

1760
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 4: a minute headlines.

1761
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 26: Now, whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's

1762
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 26: all on The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and

1763
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 26: my HR the HR solution for busy SMEs news talks

1764
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 26: at the.

1765
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 4: Sun Business has done tons of batteries every month in landfill.

1766
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: Let's take them to Bunnings.

1767
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 9: Now.

1768
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: I said I wouldn't mention the heacoy again, but I

1769
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 4: have to mention the hekoy one more time because I

1770
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 4: just opened the BBC and this is the front page

1771
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: of the BBC. Thousands flocked to New Zealand capital in

1772
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 4: huge Maori protests. The country is seen as a world

1773
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 4: leader for supporting indigenous rights, but many fear that's now

1774
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 4: at risk. So that's that's the vibe out there. And

1775
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 4: that's actually what my friend in Canada said. I was like, well,

1776
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 4: why are the people and why are the people in

1777
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 4: your weird little Canadian ski town talking about it? And

1778
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 4: she was like, because they're shocked. They thought that we

1779
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 4: were all like doing all this good stuff and now

1780
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 4: we're not. So I guess it's just I guess it's

1781
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 4: just headlines.

1782
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 6: Right.

1783
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 4: If you don't I mean, if you don't really know

1784
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 4: the detail, it can look bad.

1785
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 24: I suppose every time we promised that we're not going

1786
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 24: to cover a store anymore, runch down, we always break

1787
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 24: that promise late within two ad breaks.

1788
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 21: We've got to do that. We'll do it next time.

1789
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 4: We'll take three ad breaks. Yeah, can you count from it? Please?

1790
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: Ants?

1791
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 4: Because our baby steps yeap school se maths, So ANSWER's

1792
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: going to count next time, We'll take three ad breaks

1793
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 4: before we break our promise. Anyway, Like I was telling

1794
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 4: you about railway time, okay, so then what happened?

1795
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 23: Then?

1796
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 4: What happened is in. It was just shy of eighteen fifty.

1797
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 4: Once that set all these railways and stuff in the UK,

1798
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 4: all British railway companies adopted the same time railway time

1799
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: so that they could not crash into each other if

1800
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 4: they're using a single track and stuff like that, and

1801
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 4: it was it was still another thirty plus years before

1802
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 4: actually the UK government decided all right, let's just have

1803
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 4: one time eight let's stop this nonsense where Somerset is

1804
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 4: running fifteen minutes earlier than London and Manchester is two

1805
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 4: hours behind. Because that weird thing was happening. So in

1806
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 4: eighteen eighty, which I think is really fresh, like that's

1807
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: not that long ago. It was eighteen eighty, but it

1808
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 4: was the first country in the world, the UK country.

1809
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 4: Is it a country, it's a conglomeration of countries. But anyway,

1810
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, first part of the world

1811
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 4: to go, Okay, that's it, We're all going to run

1812
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 4: the same time here, novel idea. Anyway, the US then

1813
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 4: eventually got round to it as well, but they took

1814
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 4: a little bit longer and they're really too big for

1815
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 4: one big time zone. To a guy who was a

1816
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 4: Canadian rail engineer, mister Training was really annoyed about it,

1817
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 4: and he decided time zones of the solution, there should

1818
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 4: be four, and so the railways did it in eighteen

1819
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 4: eighty three. The federal government in the US only adopted

1820
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 4: time zones in nineteen eighteen, so it's only one hundred

1821
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 4: years old in the US, and anyway that's still using

1822
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: the same one. So there you go. That is how

1823
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 4: we got to have the same time running across the

1824
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 4: whole country. Pretty new idea twenty two away from seven.

1825
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: Ever, du for see Ellens.

1826
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 4: Okay, it looks like Auckland's run into a major problem

1827
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 4: with building more houses. We don't have enough water pipes.

1828
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 4: Water Care has finally released a map which shows the

1829
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 4: areas in Auckland that are facing restrictions on development because

1830
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 4: of water connections. For example, on the Hibiscus Coast, anyone

1831
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 4: without resource consent already could have to wait around six

1832
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 4: years for a new waste water connection.

1833
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 22: Now.

1834
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 4: Andrew Crosby is from Expect Property Development. Hey Andrew, Hi,

1835
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 4: how are you going ahead? I'm very well. Thank you.

1836
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: Were you surprised when you saw that map?

1837
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 27: No, because that map has been hidden with water Care

1838
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 27: for who knows how long, but probably many months. And

1839
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 27: it's taken a group of very dedicated professionals who have

1840
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 27: set up a public advocacy company to sort of help

1841
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 27: water Care release those maps. So everyone who's bought land

1842
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 27: around Auckland has got resource consent knows whether they can

1843
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 27: actually develop the properties or not. Because of the infrastructure.

1844
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 27: We knew it was coming, we didn't know exactly the

1845
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 27: extent of the map, and it's quite surprising and perhaps

1846
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 27: shocking how much of Auckland literally has no waste water

1847
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 27: and water capacity.

1848
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was meaning. So you're not surprised

1849
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 4: at the existence of the map, but you are surprised

1850
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 4: at how extensive the kind of limitation is on where

1851
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 4: you can build.

1852
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 27: What happened literally only weeks ago, maybe months ago, people

1853
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 27: in Otara Papatowi started receiving letters developers who have resource

1854
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 27: consent are entitled to rely on their resource consent. They

1855
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 27: started receiving letters on their engineering approval applications saying sorry, guys,

1856
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 27: there's no wastewater or water capacity in this area, we

1857
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 27: can't give you engineering approval. And so that just started

1858
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 27: slowly happening, and so we went quite sure of the extent,

1859
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 27: and then the map was released, and you've got places

1860
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 27: like Beach Haven, You've got the whole Hibiscus Coasts, You've

1861
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 27: got you know, parts of Otara, Papatoa, You've got wait, TAKEI,

1862
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 27: you've got East Auckland. That whole of East Auckland has

1863
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 27: a color over it, basically saying it's not going to

1864
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 27: be ready to twenty thirty five to twenty forty. So

1865
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 27: doesn't mean there'll be no development, but basically they're saying,

1866
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 27: if you want to do a little development here and

1867
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 27: add some more affordable houses to the Auckland market, Sorry, guys,

1868
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 27: our pipes aren't big enough.

1869
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 4: Yes, but still a serrem out of area in the

1870
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 4: If they're amount of land in the city area that

1871
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 4: you can develop on.

1872
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 27: Yeah, we'll tell that to the mum and dad developers

1873
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 27: who have actually got resource consent when and spent tens

1874
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 27: of thousands of dollars on buildingcent documentation and engineering applications,

1875
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 27: only then to be told no, there's no capacity, there's

1876
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 27: no fore warning, there are no civil engineers who knew

1877
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 27: about this, there was no real transparency. Good on water

1878
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 27: Care for releasing the map.

1879
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 4: Now where are you talking about where have people spent money?

1880
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 4: Where if people spent money to develop land and now

1881
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 4: they've been told they can't well in.

1882
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 27: These areas and Otara Papeta, But according.

1883
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 4: To the map it looks like there is ability to

1884
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 4: develop there.

1885
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 27: Well, there's a big orange chunk in the middle which

1886
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 27: I see thousands and thousands of hectors. Not that much,

1887
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,919
Speaker 27: but you know, there's a significant The map is quite shocking,

1888
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 27: and there's a lot of people who spent money, they've

1889
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 27: bought sites based on development that more than likely now

1890
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 27: they'll be told there's no capacity for another ten years.

1891
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 4: So I mean, it feels to me as if water

1892
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 4: Care has known but not been completely upfront about this.

1893
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1894
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 27: Absolutely, But how.

1895
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 4: Long have they known.

1896
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 27: I don't know. But there were unofficial maps released by

1897
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 27: people on the inside and they surfaced a month or

1898
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 27: three ago, so I guess.

1899
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 19: I mean.

1900
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 27: My theory is that when the government, the previous government

1901
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 27: launched the MDRS rule, all of a sudden, council had

1902
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 27: to throw in a lot of their plans. This is

1903
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 27: an auckland because all the unitary plan had infrastructure signed,

1904
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 27: you'd think, and then the new government put all these

1905
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 27: new rules in without thinking anything about infrastructure, and then

1906
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 27: the council had to sort of rapidly adapt and now

1907
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 27: there's new areas which there's just no infrastructure left as

1908
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 27: far as transmission and pipes and all those sorts of things.

1909
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 27: So it's a bit of a it's a bit of

1910
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 27: a puzzle and it's a big problem. And I'm not

1911
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 27: sure what the solution is, but at least being transparent

1912
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,879
Speaker 27: now and getting that information into the hands of everyone,

1913
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 27: you'll slowly help this.

1914
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 18: So long.

1915
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, good luck with it, Andrew, thanks very much

1916
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 4: for talking out through. That's Andrew Crosby expects property developments. Hey,

1917
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 4: this is my favorite study of the day. This is

1918
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 4: from the University of Otago. Sometimes I despair when I

1919
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 4: see the stuff that they're doing. Sometimes they do awesome work,

1920
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 4: but sometimes they do real crappers. This is a real crapper,

1921
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 4: So old mate, who is this? You deserve to be

1922
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 4: named co author? Associate Professor Leana Machado of the Department

1923
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 4: of Psychology has done a study on what happens if

1924
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 4: you wear a face mask for eight hours or more.

1925
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 4: Results show people who wore a face mask for about

1926
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Speaker 4: eight hours felt less happy, more tense, and performed poorly

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Speaker 4: when their focus was tested. Really, what do you have

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Speaker 4: to study that for? Did you not live through COVID?

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Speaker 4: That was that was terrible. It was a terrible time.

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Speaker 4: Remember when you had to go to work up with

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Speaker 4: the face mask on? How grumpy you're getting me scratching

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Speaker 4: away and oh it was so annoying and it was

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Speaker 4: stinky and they're wet yuck. Of course it made like

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Speaker 4: and you had if this is if you're an essential worker.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know about I don't know about

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Speaker 4: people who weren't, but surely you were wearing a face

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Speaker 4: mask when you're out on public transport and stuff like that,

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Speaker 4: or in the shop. Remember you had to wear it

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Speaker 4: in the shop. Come on, we all did it. You

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Speaker 4: know that it makes you grumpy? What you're doing studies

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Speaker 4: on this for? Then this? Masks have become a normal,

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Speaker 4: often essential part of people's lives following the pandemic. Who

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Speaker 4: who is still wearing a mask? I mean, like if

1944
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Speaker 4: it was probably if you're still wearing a mask because

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Speaker 4: you're a nurse. It was already part of your life beforehand,

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Speaker 4: wasn't it. So who's now all of a sudden, like

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Speaker 4: I'm still wearing a mask. I have to Oh, honestly,

1948
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Speaker 4: she could have and they only did forty two people.

1949
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Speaker 4: They could have just they could have done the whole country.

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Speaker 4: Asked us afterwards, how'd you feel? I would have been like,

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Speaker 4: really grouchy, hate it caught it.

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Speaker 2: Too everything from me. He's the big corporates, the business

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Speaker 2: with hither duplet and my HR. The HR solution for

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Speaker 2: busy is Emmy on news Talk Zibby in.

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Speaker 4: The Brady UK correspondent is with us. Hello, Inda, Heather

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Speaker 4: Gright to speak to you. How did Kiostama's meet and

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Speaker 4: go with shooting pain.

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Speaker 28: I think it's gone very well and it's very significant

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Speaker 28: because the first time a British Prime minister has met

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Speaker 28: the Chinese president for five years. You have to go

1961
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Speaker 28: back to Theresa May. And obviously this is all about

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Speaker 28: growth and the economy and business and money and we're

1963
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Speaker 28: limping along here the last quarter zero point one percent

1964
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Speaker 28: of growth in the British economy. It's simply not good enough.

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Speaker 28: Starmer is a pragmatist and he's even said it in

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Speaker 28: his speech and talking to reporters in Brazil at the

1967
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Speaker 28: G twenty where this happened, he said he wants a

1968
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Speaker 28: serious and pragmatic relationship with China. It's all about business

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Speaker 28: and look, there will be some concerns over human rights

1970
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Speaker 28: abuses and the treatment of the Wigers in certain regions

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Speaker 28: of China, but I think Starmar is just going to

1972
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Speaker 28: pinch his nose on that one and just see if

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Speaker 28: he can develop relations with China in a way that

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Speaker 28: no prime minister has since Cameron.

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Speaker 4: Is any part of this designed to kind of irritate Trump.

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Speaker 28: I think it's Trump proofing in a ways. The phrase

1977
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Speaker 28: I've been hearing around Europe talking to certain leaders and

1978
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Speaker 28: politicians and business people the last few weeks. They're just

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Speaker 28: trying to make sure that they're ready for whatever happens.

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Speaker 28: And I think the big fear in Europe is trade

1981
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Speaker 28: Tariff's that if he starts whacking on ten and twenty

1982
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Speaker 28: percent on goods coming from Europe, you know, right now

1983
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Speaker 28: would be a very useful time to be part of

1984
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Speaker 28: the European Union block, twenty seven nations all pulling together,

1985
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Speaker 28: and the UK, by virtue of the brilliant idea that

1986
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Speaker 28: Briggs it was, is sitting on the sidelines, licking its

1987
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Speaker 28: wounds and going nowhere. So Starmer has decided that, you know,

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Speaker 28: take positive action, become friends with g and just see

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Speaker 28: what happens.

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Speaker 4: And you know what it Also, it feels like it

1991
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Speaker 4: might be done to slightly dissuade Donald Trump from those terriffs,

1992
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 4: because what Stam is indicating is that's cool, mate, you

1993
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Speaker 4: can hit me with the teriff. I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: pivot this way.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, And I think the big fear for Europe will

1996
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Speaker 28: be that if China gets hit with tariffs from Trump,

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Speaker 28: that Europe will get flooded with an awful lot of

1998
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Speaker 28: even cheaper Chinese goods that they want to offload. Certainly,

1999
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Speaker 28: the EV vehicle scene is something that is taxing a

2000
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Speaker 28: lot of brains in the European Union right now. They're

2001
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Speaker 28: very very concerned because the Chinese evs are so much

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Speaker 28: cheaper than anything they're making in Germany right now.

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Speaker 11: For example.

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Speaker 28: So it's look, it's a fascinating time. Plus Starmer is

2005
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Speaker 28: no idiot. I think he's really kind of upped his

2006
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 28: game and he's realized that how can we grow this

2007
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 28: economy with the impact and damage Breggs that has done.

2008
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Speaker 28: We need the Chinese on board now.

2009
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Speaker 4: Is it actually true that Mo Farrah had his phone

2010
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Speaker 4: and then chased the van down.

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Speaker 28: It is now I know Mo and I've trained with him,

2012
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Speaker 28: believe it or not. I've run with him a few

2013
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Speaker 28: times and he's always messing around with his fitness watch.

2014
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Speaker 28: And so what he was doing was he was in

2015
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Speaker 28: the street. He lives in a private, gated community, as

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Speaker 28: you would imagine one of the world's fastest people and

2017
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Speaker 28: hugely successful, multimillionaire, double winning gold medalists would be, and

2018
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Speaker 28: he had his phone on the street and he was

2019
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Speaker 28: doing his exercises directly outside his house. And he's running

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Speaker 28: along and the van pulls in, sees the phone by

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Speaker 28: the pavement, and a guy jumps out, whips the phone

2022
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Speaker 28: and the van drives off. But unfortunately for the van driver,

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Speaker 28: he got outsprinted by Moufara. Mofara caught up with them

2024
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Speaker 28: and he's the most recognizable sports person in Britain and

2025
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Speaker 28: he stuck his head in the van window and said,

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Speaker 28: give me my phone back now. And of course they

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Speaker 28: couldn't get out of that. It's a gated community, so

2028
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 28: there is an entrance code and CCTV cameras everywhere. And

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Speaker 28: I think the two idiots in the van thought, you

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01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 28: know what this is not worth the hassle, so they

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01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 28: give Molfarrell back his mobile phone.

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Speaker 4: Two right in the jeez, is anybody in the world

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Speaker 4: you don't know? I'm so im pretty thank you so much, Brady.

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Speaker 4: I just trained with mo No big deal into Brady

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Speaker 4: are UK correspondent Hey getting a lot of texts suggesting

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01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 4: that the tooka to a pulp and paper mill has

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Speaker 4: a big meeting tomorrow about potential closures. It sounds like

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01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,480
Speaker 4: it might be in trouble. The staff at the Kinleath

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01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 4: mill have been summon summoned rather to a meeting tomorrow

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01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 4: morning in the cafeteria at eight and it sounds like

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Speaker 4: they are going to shut down potentially two hundred jobs

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Speaker 4: at the mill. This is the same company that owns

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Speaker 4: the Penrose mill that shut down a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: The mill's been around for a long time, opened in

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Speaker 4: the nineteen fifties. So that's going to be really sad news.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder what it means for our paper and

2047
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: our cardboard recycling because with the Penrose mill shutting, a

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01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 4: whole bunch of paper now gets sent to Malaysia. Call

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Speaker 4: for the carbon mass, say, and I think the other

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01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 4: one does the cardboard. So it's that the same problem.

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Speaker 4: Ain't away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Getting ready for a new administration in the US. What

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Speaker 1: will be the impact?

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Speaker 2: It's there is this hour with Heather Duplas Allen and

2055
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Speaker 2: my HR, the HR solution for busy SMEs news talks.

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Speaker 4: I'd be hey, six away from seven, so late in

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01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 4: that I've already forgot on the time. Ticketech's website is

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01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 4: down now. I don't know why I'm telling you this,

2059
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 4: but I'm fascinated by this because I go to all

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01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 4: these concert clubs and stuff like that, and if it

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Speaker 4: was me who was trying to buy a ticket off ticketek,

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Speaker 4: I'd be really angry. Right now, I'm really upset. It's

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01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: been down for like basically two full days. They said

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01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 4: it's down for maintenance. If you go on to ticketech

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01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 4: dot co dot it's US and Australia. By the way,

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01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 4: this is really significant for them. It says, oh, maintenance,

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Speaker 4: maintenance is taking a bit longer than expected. If that

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Speaker 4: is maintenance, it's maintenance gone very wrong because they are

2069
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 4: losing the ability to sell a whole bunch of tickets.

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01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 4: At the moment, no one can buy any tickets through ticketech,

2071
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 4: and no one can access tickets that they've already got.

2072
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 4: So they're supposed to be selling football tickets for this weekend.

2073
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 4: They were supposed to be selling tickets for Jack White

2074
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 4: and Melbourne and Sydney. Now that's been taken to another

2075
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 4: outlet supposed to be selling techis. I think it's Rusch

2076
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 4: and Murphy, alex Is on fire Ado, all of them

2077
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 4: being given to other outlets to sell. Ticketek is saying

2078
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 4: absolutely nothing at the moment. So hopefully there are no

2079
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Speaker 4: Ticketek events in the country in New Zealand at the moment,

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01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 4: because otherwise we've got a problem. Just a quick heads up.

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Speaker 4: The undersea cable between Germany and Finland has been severed

2082
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 4: and authorities are investigating because what they're worried about here

2083
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 4: is that it might have been Russia doing some subottage. Yes,

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01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 4: I got what I wanted. Both producers at exactly the

2085
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 4: same time looked up at me. Didn't you answer?

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01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 24: I'll give you one of these as well.

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01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 4: Hang on, thank you. I've been waiting for days to

2088
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 4: get subotage into the show.

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Speaker 24: I was talking about sabotage there. Sorry for people who

2090
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 24: aren't listening last week. Yes, oh is it okay? I'm

2091
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 24: just just going to make doubly sore, okay, just so

2092
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 24: that people, because sabotage is not something anyone else has

2093
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 24: ever said, and it's not something anyone thinks about. So

2094
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 24: I'm just going to clear up that what you're talking

2095
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:57,480
Speaker 24: about is sabotage.

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01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 4: I thought I saw another one. I saw another inch

2097
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 4: with that that you can't You can't stuff around with

2098
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 4: petite because what would you how would you do that

2099
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 4: in English? Petty tay, pettit petit petite? No, it would

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01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 4: be pet tight, wouldn't it. And that's hideous, isn't it.

2101
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 24: I can't believe I'm indulging you on Yeah, okay, what

2102
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 24: have you got greedy? By take McCrady players out tonight.

2103
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 24: She is performing at Spark Arena in Auckland tonight and

2104
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 24: the doors should be opening in at about four minutes.

2105
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 24: I can't find.

2106
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 4: Tell me ticke a Tek is not doing it.

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01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 24: Thankfully, this is a ticket Master gigks, so if you

2108
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 24: don't have a ticket yet, you still can get one,

2109
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 24: or you can need to show a ticket to the

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Speaker 24: show on Tsprena and Wellington on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff and thank you. You know I've been sitting on

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01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 4: that subottage all day, just waiting for the may I

2113
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 4: was waiting for them, and they all right, okay, but

2114
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 4: it was quiet in the control room. And then a

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01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 4: minute at just one second pass and they both looked

2116
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 4: up at exactly the same time, like you absolute idiot

2117
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 4: at me. I'm just gonna think about that. That's what's

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Speaker 4: going to rock me to sleep tonight, just nagging them

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Speaker 4: on this. Thank you, yay, enjoy your evening.

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