1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: I didn't take cardinals long to choose Leo the fourteenth 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: as the new pope. One of the cardinals was our 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: very own John Due, who is with us now? 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: Hey? John, Hello, Heather? How are you? 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm very well and it's very good to talk to you. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Did you vote for Leo? 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Thank you? Sorry? 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Did you vote for Leo? 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: I can't tell you who I voted for. That voting 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: is highly secretive. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, forever. Well, that makes sense. They burn all the 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: votes at the end, don't they. Have you met him yet? 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: Yes? I have, yes? And what do you think after 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: his after his election? We all I had met him 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: once a few months ago, but after his election we 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: all had the opportunity to go and have a few 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: words with him. And then after he had appeared on 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: the balcony to the thousands of people in the Saint 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: Peter Square, he had a dinner at the place where 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: the cardinals are all staying, so he wanted around speaking 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: to I mean there was a couple of hundred people there, 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: but he spoke to many of the people. He's a lovely, 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: lovely man. 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: What did you talk to him about? Sorry, what did 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: you talk to him about? 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, it was just a moment like when we 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: when we all met him, I just reminded him who 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: I was and said that I'd had the practice of 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: every day praying and support for pro Francis, and I 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: would continue doing it for him. And he said, thank 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: you very much. You know, I certainly need that. So 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: just that kind of thing. But then he just wandered 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: around the tables for a little while last night at 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: the meal we had and just ask everyone how they were. 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: We have a mess with him later this morning, so 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: no doubt he will speak to us a bit more 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: seriously about what he's expecting of us in the church 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: and what he hopes to do. 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: John, how what do you think about him as the 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: pope replace? You know, following on from Francis? Is this 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: do you think an endorsement of Francis? Because we haven't 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: swung wildly from a liberal to a conservative, but we've 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: gone from a liberal to a moderate. 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: I do believe that he will continue some of the 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: initiatives that initiated. He will be his own person, of course, 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: and he will have his own things to think about 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: and try and steer the church in a particular way. 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: But very much the meetings that we had for ten days, well, 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: very much about what's needed in the church and in 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: the world today. And everyone was saying, we can't have 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: a copy of post Francis, but we would like to 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: make sure that many of his initiatives do continue, and 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure that he will look to do I'm sure 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: he will look to do that. 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: John, have you watched the movie Conclave? 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: I have not long before I came over. 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: How similar was it to the movie? 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: There were some parts that are similar in the sense 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: that the capitals are all together in this place called 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: Sant de Marta for just for the last for the 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: time of the conclave, the entrance into the Sistine Chapel, 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: for the beginning of the voting, you know, being with 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: near the saints, prayed for the gift of the Holy 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Spirit to guide us, those sort of things. The way 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: the voting was done is sort of similar to what 66 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: we saw in the movie. 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: The marbled rooms. 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Mar I mean when you go into places like the 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Sistine Chapel and the resounts the surrounding chapels and always 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: marveled and beautiful architecture and at work, etc. So it's 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: just a privileged to be in a place like that 72 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: and to be able to be part of the voting 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: for a new come. 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: John, thank you so much. I really appreciate it and 75 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: enjoy your mess. I really appreciate your time. 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