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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number two eighty four for the

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Speaker 2: tenth of fib in the Year of Our Lord twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Great show today. The mid life crisis chat

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Speaker 2: at the end was I found very amusing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very fun, very fun, and then got.

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Speaker 2: A bit heated in the middle when we were talking

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Speaker 2: about red shirting kids. Yes, sounds some tense red shooting.

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Speaker 2: I thought when we were initially going to talk about

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Speaker 2: red shirting when you suggested, I thought it was that

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Speaker 2: thing where original star Trek all the guys in the

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Speaker 2: Red Shirts got killed immediately when they landed on planets.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, it would have been way more fun.

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Speaker 2: You're holding your kids back a year and we basically

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Speaker 2: got accused of hate by a woman and that was fun.

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Speaker 3: She You're welcome and to Tuesday show. So good to

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Speaker 3: Nay now then, yeah, all right, let's get in tonight.

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Speaker 3: Just before we get to what's in the show today,

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Speaker 3: just something I found quite interesting this morning. We talk

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Speaker 3: a lot about AI on the show.

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Speaker 2: You certainly do.

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Speaker 3: I love it. It's a massive thing, as we all

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Speaker 3: know in the world right now. So and as you

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Speaker 3: also know, Matt, I haven't mentioned on the show, but

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Speaker 3: I had a bit of a fall the other day.

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Speaker 3: A bit of a fall, did you and enrolled my ankle.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's all my groaning.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I've been sitting here complaining and just making weird noises

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Speaker 3: because I've badly injured my ankle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but I went to the physio this

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Speaker 3: morning and what I found was interesting. Great guy sat

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Speaker 3: down and then the first thing he said was do

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Speaker 3: you mind if I use AI to record my notes?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, absolutely, go for gold, and I freaking

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Speaker 3: loved it because as he was going through testing the ankle,

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Speaker 3: in a very loud voice so that we AI would

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Speaker 3: pick it up. So I kind of got the double dose.

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Speaker 3: But I thought, what an ingenious way to use that technology.

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Speaker 2: A couple of points on this, did he touch you?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: He did, all right, So he can't be completely replaced

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Speaker 2: by AI. No, no, so if he just took the

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Speaker 2: message and there's no need for the physio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very point. Yeah, very good point.

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Speaker 2: Although I was getting a pedicure the other day, and

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Speaker 2: you know I don't often, but my partner said, your

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Speaker 2: cool and the chair was messaging me. Was it nice

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Speaker 2: that the chair? You know how these of you know,

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Speaker 2: you see the mid airports and stuff. Yeah, but so

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Speaker 2: you know you can't you can probably play. You could

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Speaker 2: probably place the physia with just a cheer and AI recording.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get a soft fingered robot there to

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Speaker 2: Second point is you don't need to put on a

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Speaker 2: when he's trying to send text messages with his phone.

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Speaker 2: no, no text message to Matt Heath. That's son, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing today? If you don't need to put on

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Speaker 3: He had to just raise his voice where he thought

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Speaker 3: Were you there? You must have been there. Were you

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Speaker 3: Very good. Right on to today's show. After three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: they stem from profound psychological challenges tied to aging, mortality,

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Speaker 3: great it's a great read, and go check it out

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Speaker 3: on the Herald. But the big question we've got for

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Speaker 2: I don't think that exists. I think people are always

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Speaker 2: They've had to have a station wagon. The kids move out,

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Speaker 2: Everyone so midlife crisis yeah laughter. Then you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: don't make life crisis. I just think it's just a

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Speaker 3: So rough at the top, Rough at the top for

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Speaker 2: Also, we need you're not in crisis, you know, we

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Speaker 2: before you go to school. When you're at school, you're

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Speaker 2: in a crisis in your twenties, crisis in your thirties, forties,

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Speaker 2: fifty sixties. Yeah, I think you sort of maybe only

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just a cartoon way to make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be a great chat after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, a fascinating story of a christ Huge

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Speaker 3: couple who found more than two hundred K in the ceiling.

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Speaker 3: plastic bricks tucked into insulation in their property. They reported

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Speaker 2: Why does the crown get it? If anything, the crown

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Speaker 2: So they're saying this couple shouldn't get it because it's

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Speaker 2: the process of crime. Well, this couple had nothing to

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Speaker 2: so they got more right to it than you have.

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Speaker 3: You need to pass the notes to their lawyer. It's

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Speaker 3: a great point if you're better at policing.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, two hundred thousand is a lot, and

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Speaker 2: you know everyone you know, when you find that money,

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Speaker 2: you'd be concerned that someone's going to come back looking

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Speaker 2: for it, right, Yeah, so that's probably part of your

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Speaker 3: Right, you'd narrow it down pretty fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd know it was yours, right, you'd know you've

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Speaker 2: of people found valuable stuff in the houses. Yeah you know,

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Speaker 2: so what have you found? And what do you do

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Speaker 2: when you find something valuable? You just put it in

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Speaker 2: take it to the police and then they grab it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be a great chat. I hate

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about this red shirting. So it's all over

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Speaker 3: social media at the moment. What red shirting effectively is

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Speaker 3: I have an older school start age, has any long

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Speaker 3: term benefits is still unknown, So delaying school starting can

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Speaker 3: simply be avoiding a challenging but inevitable transition for some parents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I one hundred and eight ten eighty. What

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Speaker 2: do you think of red shirting? Is it more about

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Speaker 2: they're much more capable at dealing with it. So don't

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Speaker 2: it's it's good for them to be around lots of

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Speaker 2: just going on, oh, they can't handle it. They can't

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Speaker 2: hand it. They can they can't handle it. Kids have

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Speaker 2: gone through much worse than sitting on the mat, getting

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Speaker 2: red stories, you know, finger painting, playing with lego, all

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Speaker 2: that good stuff, you know, maybe learning the alphabet slowly,

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Speaker 2: year zero. I mean, and this isn't red shirting in

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Speaker 2: terms of you know, just holding them back for a

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Speaker 2: and form a gang and poke on other kids or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is that you want them to do. But like,

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Speaker 2: this is like when you hold them back for a

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Speaker 2: year or don't send them to school till they're seven.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, You've got to ask yourself, is this more

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Speaker 2: about your anxiety or about the kid? What's best for

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Speaker 2: the kids? First question you got, asked yourself?

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Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 3: to call? Nine two ninety two? Is this more about

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Speaker 3: the child's needs if you hold them back? Or could

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Speaker 3: it be reflecting anxiety in the parents? Nine two nine two?

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Speaker 3: Is that text back? Very shortly? It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon, Jill. It is seventeen past one,

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Speaker 3: so we are talking about the idea of red shirting.

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Speaker 3: It's taking social media by storm. It effectively means keeping

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Speaker 3: The argument is that it helps prepare them for success

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Speaker 2: It's a lot to keep them around. But what did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but even how you treat the teacher, you know,

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Speaker 2: Going to the toilet, independently, all those kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: to show. How are you good?

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Speaker 3: And what's your thoughts about this idea about redshiroting.

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Speaker 7: Well, you were just saying, the sooner you get them

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Speaker 7: and thank you and stuff. What makes you think they

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Speaker 2: What about having to go to the toilet independently, That's

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Speaker 7: Really, does every six year old at home need a

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Speaker 7: You can get all that the facts, like, the Americans

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Speaker 2: That's not what this research in New Zealand's is shows

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Speaker 4: Now later how much later?

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Speaker 7: A you're talking about two years.

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Speaker 2: Or well, this is talking about you know, because they're

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Speaker 2: so this is yeah, yeah, so that year zero stuff,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, we're not talking about that. But I

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Speaker 7: the fact that that also leads to better social skills.

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Speaker 2: But is an anxiety dealt with as an anxiety dealt

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Speaker 2: Isn't it just as likely that it becomes a monster

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Speaker 7: Saying, Yeah, yeah, definitely, the challenge doesn't always lead to strength, right,

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Speaker 3: But what about for so, if you send your kids

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Speaker 3: You're now coming in as an outsider, trying to find

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Speaker 7: Yeah, true, true. I mean, I'm not saying there's no

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Speaker 2: We'll not according to this particular study here that we're

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Speaker 7: One study, which is fair enough, but I mean there

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Speaker 2: My fear is that it's more about parental anxiety than

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Speaker 7: But you could you could relate the same thing to

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're going to get a million different kids

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Speaker 7: So you've got to look across. If you're talking about

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Speaker 7: the statistics. You've got to look across you know, thousands

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Speaker 7: it would be better that you weren't at home, right,

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Speaker 7: It would be better that they got home. You didn't

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Speaker 7: more family time, you know, And this is even if

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that call, Nick, I mean interesting, It depends,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very true. Yeah, Nick, thank you very much for

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Speaker 3: the idea of red shirting holding your kids back for

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with Nick that it's better for them

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Speaker 2: and it's crook causes, you know, forms a stronger bond

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Speaker 2: and they do better. Or do you think it's more

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Speaker 2: about parental anxiety than child anxiety.

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Speaker 3: Scota model to reflect their all new modern solid design language.

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Speaker 3: It is a gobsmacker.

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Speaker 2: The Enyak is where sports meets suv all electric. Get this.

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Speaker 2: It even comes with an umbrella tucked away in the

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Speaker 2: driver's door.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, but we digress, right, this is all about

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Speaker 3: Scota codes and your chance to win a trip for

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Speaker 3: two to the Tour de France. Jump on to Scoda

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Speaker 3: New codes drop daily. So you got to think fast.

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Speaker 2: Can you crack the Scoda code?

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 3: LLNG years go.

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Speaker 9: New facility to be built in Taranaki. Your bills about

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Speaker 9: a billion dollars. Mike Fuji is the CEO at Contact Energy.

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Speaker 9: Reassure people who wonder why we need to build something

451
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Speaker 9: that will only be used occasionally.

452
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Speaker 4: It just removes the drama out of the.

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Speaker 9: Simon Watts is the minister and I can't remember who

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Speaker 9: it was. It could have been the Meridian Head anyway,

455
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Speaker 9: he said. The Huntly deal solves the problem. How can

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Speaker 9: he say that and.

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Speaker 10: You say no, all the reality is is it a

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Speaker 10: fifty percent?

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Speaker 9: How can one undred new say fifty?

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Speaker 2: Who do I believe?

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Speaker 8: Well, you believe me because that's the advice that we've.

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Speaker 2: Thought a truth.

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Speaker 9: Signed back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 9: with the Defendant News Talk z B being on.

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Speaker 3: Half aass one plenty of texts coming through, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Isn't the report you're referring to dealing with academic success?

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Speaker 2: You seem to be arguing over different things. That's a

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Speaker 2: good point. Actually, So this this report there we're talking

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Speaker 2: about when it comes to red shooting kids is saying

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Speaker 2: that there's no discernible academic difference or advantage. But I

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Speaker 2: would say that there would be a reasonable indicator of

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Speaker 2: how you're doing at school, your academic success, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, spot on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the other thing with this at five

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Speaker 2: and seending them to school, it's not like you're just

476
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Speaker 2: throwing them away signing them up to the merchant Navy.

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Speaker 2: You drop them off at nine and pick them up

478
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Speaker 2: at three, and so you're still spending all that family

479
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Speaker 2: time within the afternoon and arguably not as stressed with

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Speaker 2: them because they've had some time, and plus speaking from

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Speaker 2: experience with my kids, once you send them to school

482
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Speaker 2: and they're dealing with all those other kids, they just

483
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Speaker 2: fizz with all the interaction and they develop so much,

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Speaker 2: so much quicker, rather than the environment that you have

485
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Speaker 2: and home, which is quieter, there's less people their own

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Speaker 2: age around. I mean, I notice, I mean it's absolutely

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Speaker 2: different with every kid, but I noticed just it accelerates

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Speaker 2: their developments in every single way. Once they're with the kids.

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Speaker 2: You know, their physical abilities because they're playing more sport,

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Speaker 2: their ability to communicate, and their ability to socialize with

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Speaker 2: other kids just skyrockets once they go to school. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you've got one kid at home or two kids

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Speaker 2: at home, then can you really create that same intense

494
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Speaker 2: environment that they that they need to enter at some point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very difficult to do and arguably, I mean it

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Speaker 3: must be at that point of a child's life and

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Speaker 3: development that enthusiasm and excitement is critical and if you

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Speaker 3: beg yourself as a parent to do that at home.

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Speaker 3: But I'm with your argument. I think when you've got

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Speaker 3: thirty kids running around, all excitement is contagious. When you're

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Speaker 3: that age, when you're any age.

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Speaker 2: Be honest, no matter how much you love your kids,

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Speaker 2: and I love my kids at that age, the games

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Speaker 2: they want to play a boring because they're kids games

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Speaker 2: and there's only so much time you can spend focusing

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Speaker 2: on what they want to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right. Put them in a class with twenty five other kids.

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Speaker 2: Then there's a lot of people on the same page

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Speaker 2: as them, and they get a lot more stimulated. If

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Speaker 2: your kids don't have that family connection by five, they

512
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Speaker 2: won't have it by seven. It's the environment, not the time,

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Speaker 2: says that text.

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Speaker 3: Keep those teachs coming through nine to two ninety two

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Speaker 3: and really can to hear from you on oh eight

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty holding your kid back for a

517
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Speaker 3: few years before they start school? Is that about the

518
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Speaker 3: child's need or does it reflect the anxiety of the parents.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty seven to two.

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Speaker 11: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. So we're talking about sending

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Speaker 3: your kids to school A few years later, it's called

543
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Speaker 3: red shirting. It's taken social media by storm, but really

544
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Speaker 3: tend to have a chat with you. Do you really

545
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Speaker 3: think that that would lead to better outcomes for a

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Speaker 3: child or do you think there's a bit of parental

547
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Speaker 3: anxiety involved in cutting the ties and sending your kids

548
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Speaker 3: to school at age five? Or one hundred and eighteen

549
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Speaker 3: eighty is the number?

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Speaker 2: Call the texter says, you guys are missing a few things.

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Speaker 2: Though New Zealand kids legally have to be schooled from

552
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Speaker 2: six years old. Yeah, as we said, so we didn't

553
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Speaker 2: miss that. So if not going to school, then they

554
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Speaker 2: have to be homeschool who say they have heaps of

555
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Speaker 2: interactions but have their parents with them. Also, our new

556
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Speaker 2: entrant teachers talk about the overwhelming bad behavior, lack of

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Speaker 2: manners and ability to sit on the mat and ability

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Speaker 2: toil themselves. Some are still lacking the walls, licking the

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Speaker 2: walls where middle learners are left behind as they don't

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Speaker 2: have time. That's a different school to even thirteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Matt as neurodivergency rates get higher and higher. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean why is that? Why are neurodivergent rates getting high

563
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Speaker 2: and high?

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I mean, it is a new phenomena.

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Speaker 2: And so if the if the kids are arriving at

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Speaker 2: school like this, that suggests that what's been happening at

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Speaker 2: home is not working out great for them. Yeah right,

568
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Speaker 2: So if they're arriving at school and lack of manners

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Speaker 2: and ability to sit on a mat and ability toilet

570
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Speaker 2: themselves and licking the walls, nothing wrong with your enough,

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with licking the walls at five?

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Speaker 3: Yep, Willie Wonka was all for it.

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Speaker 2: You got to see what everything tastes like. It's good

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Speaker 2: for you, then maybe you need to get them into

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Speaker 2: school and away from those parents that aren't teaching them

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Speaker 2: how to toilet themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the rubber has to hit the road at some point.

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Speaker 2: And so what do you think an extra two years

579
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Speaker 2: of these parents that can't get their kids to be

580
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Speaker 2: at that state by their five is going to make

581
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Speaker 2: them amazing? You know, like, you know they have to

582
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Speaker 2: be at sex and you arrange for them to go

583
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Speaker 2: to school at seven. So an extra two years of

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Speaker 2: the same parenting that has sent these war liquors to school.

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Speaker 3: Just feels like these trends that pop up. When I

586
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Speaker 3: was younger, the trend was that it's important to send

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Speaker 3: your kids to daycare. So I went to daycare. All

588
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Speaker 3: my friends went to daycare, and I think, by and large,

589
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Speaker 3: most of us have turned out pretty well. So all

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Speaker 3: this stuff about if you send your kids to school

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Speaker 3: too early, they're going to be anxious messes with all

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Speaker 3: bunches of neurological problems, that just wasn't true with my generation.

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Speaker 3: There is an epidemic happening apparently, but we're going to

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Speaker 3: figure out why. I mean, clearly, if I look at

595
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Speaker 3: my generation, it's not because we were chucked into daycare

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Speaker 3: at eighteen months old.

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Speaker 2: I went to dinner with some people recently, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to hopefully they're not listening. Maybe I'm sharing a

599
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Speaker 2: bit big audience, but all their kids had these air

600
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Speaker 2: muffs on and I asked why and they said because

601
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Speaker 2: they get over steam related and I thought, well, that's

602
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Speaker 2: probably because you're putting mfs on them. Kids should learn

603
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Speaker 2: to deal with overstimulation. That's part of being Part of

604
00:27:16,813 --> 00:27:18,493
Speaker 2: being a human is dealing with other humans.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And so you need to get out. I mean, evolutionarily,

607
00:27:21,573 --> 00:27:25,093
Speaker 2: we grew up in villages groups of fifty people, so

608
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Speaker 2: all the kids were running around together, So isolating them off,

609
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I think you have to do that.

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Speaker 2: You have to be very sure you're doing the right

611
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Speaker 2: thing if you keep them at home till six or seven.

612
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Speaker 3: Impulse control is a massive thing and you've got to

613
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Speaker 3: learn it at some stage as a kid. I'm sure, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I know. I was a real idiot when I was three,

615
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Speaker 3: four and five and did my mum's hidden. But what

616
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Speaker 3: did they do when I was screaming and being an

617
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Speaker 3: idiot in a restaurant? So if you don't stop that,

618
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Speaker 3: we're going home right now, and that was they put

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Speaker 3: you in the car. You go home, you're punished, You

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Speaker 3: go to your room until you figure it out. And

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Speaker 3: it's all about learning impulse control that you can't be

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Speaker 3: as a child screaming in a restaurant because you know

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Speaker 3: these consequences.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go, Tyler. Well you turned out. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show, Abdullah, Hey.

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Speaker 4: Afternoon, you guys. So my son had a very severe

627
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Speaker 4: separation anxiety since the day he started kindergarten. He never

628
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Speaker 4: really wanted wanted to go in the first place. So

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Speaker 4: he like, okay, so I'll give you a bit of

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Speaker 4: a contact. So I've just got one son, so being

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Speaker 4: alone sibling, he got all our attention. And I believe

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Speaker 4: and my wife believes, and he also believes that we

633
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Speaker 4: are really closely admitted family, were strongly bonded together and

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Speaker 4: that might have actually added up as well. So he

635
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Speaker 4: was in the first place not wanting to let my

636
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Speaker 4: wife go, especially my wife, so I was always second

637
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Speaker 4: in line. If mom's not around, then that should be available.

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Speaker 4: But so for that sake, what we what we decided

639
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Speaker 4: to do is that we would definitely send him to

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Speaker 4: kindergarten and then school at the right age, because that

641
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Speaker 4: is important for social skills. Had we not been in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand, and because I'm an immigrant, I can and

643
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Speaker 4: kind of compare things around other parts of the world.

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Speaker 4: So had they been in either the Middle Eastern part

645
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Speaker 4: of the world or Asian part of the world, I

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Speaker 4: would probably have him at home for a couple of years,

647
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Speaker 4: maybe because those places they are targeting or concentrating a

648
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Speaker 4: bit a lot more on the academics than the social part.

649
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Speaker 4: Well arguably, but yeah, I mean, you really need to

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Speaker 4: be very you don't don't doing very well up to

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Speaker 4: the mark asper your class or your year that you're

652
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Speaker 4: in in those part of the world, and if you're not,

653
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:52,373
Speaker 4: you're kind of really frown upon or loll down upon,

654
00:29:53,013 --> 00:29:55,893
Speaker 4: and they might be they might be saying that, well,

655
00:29:56,013 --> 00:29:57,933
Speaker 4: you need to pay a bit more attention all that stuff.

656
00:29:57,973 --> 00:29:59,813
Speaker 4: Where than New Zealand. That's a that's a good part

657
00:29:59,853 --> 00:30:03,613
Speaker 4: of the society or community that we kind of understand

658
00:30:03,613 --> 00:30:07,493
Speaker 4: that every child has got their own needs and that

659
00:30:07,653 --> 00:30:09,973
Speaker 4: they have to come up their own progress rate, which

660
00:30:10,013 --> 00:30:14,773
Speaker 4: we can help in some ways. But what we we should

661
00:30:14,773 --> 00:30:17,093
Speaker 4: we should help them, that's that's the main thing. So

662
00:30:17,693 --> 00:30:21,093
Speaker 4: again sorry repeating myself, but again, had we been in

663
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Speaker 4: other parts of the world where academic is a is

664
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Speaker 4: a big thing, we probably would have held him to

665
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Speaker 4: certain settings of school for about a year at.

666
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Speaker 2: Least, so you'd held him to what age before you

667
00:30:34,373 --> 00:30:35,853
Speaker 2: see him to school? A dollar.

668
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Speaker 4: I think if if I if I for for my child,

669
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Speaker 4: I probably would say probably six or seven, probably six

670
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Speaker 4: or seven.

671
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Speaker 2: And that is to help with the academic side of things.

672
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Speaker 4: No, that is to help overcome his anxiety and not

673
00:30:55,173 --> 00:30:58,293
Speaker 4: to make things worse, because okay, so why would why

674
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Speaker 4: did we send him to school here? Because we really

675
00:31:01,733 --> 00:31:04,413
Speaker 4: wanted to, We really wanted him to get up to

676
00:31:04,653 --> 00:31:10,453
Speaker 4: you know, better social skills and other people skilled and

677
00:31:10,493 --> 00:31:14,013
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. But if you you you,

678
00:31:14,053 --> 00:31:16,373
Speaker 4: if we would have been in other parts of the world,

679
00:31:16,973 --> 00:31:19,893
Speaker 4: these things kind of take a bit back seat. So

680
00:31:20,013 --> 00:31:23,653
Speaker 4: the academics take the first priority, and you need to

681
00:31:23,693 --> 00:31:25,813
Speaker 4: be very very up to the mark, very up to

682
00:31:25,853 --> 00:31:29,893
Speaker 4: the standard, and they those kind of things would probably

683
00:31:29,973 --> 00:31:33,493
Speaker 4: take would have taken a toll on him. That's my take.

684
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Speaker 2: Do you think that delaying, though, just pushes off the inevitable?

685
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Speaker 2: So inevitably at some point they're going to have to

686
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Speaker 2: go into a class with a lot of lot of

687
00:31:43,133 --> 00:31:45,453
Speaker 2: kids and they're going to have to be separated from

688
00:31:45,613 --> 00:31:50,653
Speaker 2: parents and experience that separation anxiety. So why is that

689
00:31:50,893 --> 00:31:52,933
Speaker 2: worse at five than it is at seven?

690
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Speaker 4: Okay, so I think with his age, he's definitely getting

691
00:31:58,373 --> 00:32:02,333
Speaker 4: a lot better. Like well, we'll hear me out on that.

692
00:32:02,413 --> 00:32:04,773
Speaker 4: He had been assessed being on the spectnus not on

693
00:32:04,813 --> 00:32:08,933
Speaker 4: the spectrum first of all, but he had very high

694
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Speaker 4: separation anxiety levels, very high, like so high. Like we

695
00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:14,973
Speaker 4: we all had a little bit of that when we

696
00:32:14,973 --> 00:32:17,733
Speaker 4: were going first day to school, like when we were kids.

697
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Speaker 4: But and I do understand those are genuine feelings, and

698
00:32:24,213 --> 00:32:27,413
Speaker 4: he is. He does try to control it, but he

699
00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:31,573
Speaker 4: cannot really. And with age, those kind of things are

700
00:32:31,653 --> 00:32:36,973
Speaker 4: settling a lot better. Of course, socializing and going out

701
00:32:37,213 --> 00:32:40,333
Speaker 4: and going to school and going to kindergarten. That had worked,

702
00:32:40,453 --> 00:32:44,853
Speaker 4: that had helped. But I feel, I personally feel what

703
00:32:45,053 --> 00:32:50,933
Speaker 4: I've seen and witness that aging definitely takes away those

704
00:32:51,013 --> 00:32:56,453
Speaker 4: kind of things, those kind of anxious feelings or uh

705
00:32:56,573 --> 00:33:01,053
Speaker 4: in in in yeah, in in intrusive thoughts or intrusive feelings.

706
00:33:01,453 --> 00:33:04,373
Speaker 4: So definitely when when the brain age is with time,

707
00:33:04,733 --> 00:33:07,453
Speaker 4: those kind of things that are very pronounced our young

708
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Speaker 4: age and.

709
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Speaker 2: Pays out, Yeah, and how was how was he doing there.

710
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Speaker 4: At the moment? He is quite good in terms of

711
00:33:16,093 --> 00:33:19,133
Speaker 4: what what how he was a few years ago? He

712
00:33:19,213 --> 00:33:22,933
Speaker 4: is ten years old at the moment. He is, by

713
00:33:23,013 --> 00:33:26,173
Speaker 4: the way, going to a camp, a school camp, which

714
00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:31,573
Speaker 4: again which was for a fortnight. Actually he was meant

715
00:33:31,613 --> 00:33:34,653
Speaker 4: to stay at night there, but he was not comfortable

716
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:38,893
Speaker 4: and he said, well, I'm not going to go at

717
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:40,773
Speaker 4: all if I had to, if I have to stay

718
00:33:40,813 --> 00:33:44,333
Speaker 4: antil the principal was good enough. He gave an option

719
00:33:44,493 --> 00:33:48,213
Speaker 4: that you could you could go back home after the evening,

720
00:33:48,453 --> 00:33:50,413
Speaker 4: and so he's kind of agreed that, okay, I'll go.

721
00:33:50,533 --> 00:33:54,293
Speaker 4: So those things they're still around, so he still kind

722
00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:58,733
Speaker 4: of wants to sleep around us. He does sleep in

723
00:33:58,813 --> 00:34:03,373
Speaker 4: his own room at times, but he definitely feels very

724
00:34:03,493 --> 00:34:05,973
Speaker 4: very anxious when you sleep on his own.

725
00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:10,053
Speaker 2: Think if you call it, I mean, it's complicated. I mean,

726
00:34:10,493 --> 00:34:13,252
Speaker 2: who knows what the answer is, But.

727
00:34:14,773 --> 00:34:17,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean case by case. You know, I think

728
00:34:17,293 --> 00:34:20,133
Speaker 3: you've given us a buzzubduller. And you know, there's a

729
00:34:20,133 --> 00:34:22,413
Speaker 3: couple of texts coming through, and granted there's a lot

730
00:34:22,453 --> 00:34:26,213
Speaker 3: of parents out there with very difficult situations with their children.

731
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Speaker 3: But you know, my point before, and I've got a

732
00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:33,373
Speaker 3: bit hot headed, was that the overall arching epidemic around

733
00:34:33,493 --> 00:34:37,172
Speaker 3: these issues. I just think you know that we could

734
00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:39,853
Speaker 3: have a separate topic about that, but we've got to

735
00:34:39,893 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 3: ask the question about where that comes into it in

736
00:34:42,093 --> 00:34:46,093
Speaker 3: terms of children being resilient and prepared for the world,

737
00:34:46,533 --> 00:34:49,573
Speaker 3: where perhaps some overthinking for some parents, not all. There

738
00:34:49,653 --> 00:34:51,732
Speaker 3: is some severe cases out there, no doubt about it,

739
00:34:51,773 --> 00:34:53,693
Speaker 3: but that overthinking might be plain into it.

740
00:34:53,973 --> 00:34:57,133
Speaker 2: This is what this mother is texting here. She's furious

741
00:34:57,173 --> 00:34:58,772
Speaker 2: about what you're saying. And then has listed a bunch

742
00:34:58,773 --> 00:35:01,133
Speaker 2: of things you didn't say, and so I mean you're

743
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:03,293
Speaker 2: getting furious as something you've made up there text.

744
00:35:03,373 --> 00:35:05,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll read out part of that hopefully next That

745
00:35:06,013 --> 00:35:07,133
Speaker 3: is thirteen to two.

746
00:35:08,653 --> 00:35:13,373
Speaker 1: And Tyler Adams afternoons taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.

747
00:35:13,453 --> 00:35:15,933
Speaker 1: Where's the Skoda? Can you crack the goad? Please go

748
00:35:16,053 --> 00:35:18,053
Speaker 1: to codes every day news talks.

749
00:35:18,053 --> 00:35:19,173
Speaker 5: There'd be news.

750
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:20,212
Speaker 3: Talks, there be ten to two.

751
00:35:20,413 --> 00:35:22,493
Speaker 2: Here's this text. I'm a mother of a child with

752
00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:26,013
Speaker 2: severe autism and global development delay, and I'm furious listen

753
00:35:26,253 --> 00:35:30,493
Speaker 2: to you reduce complex lifelong disabilities to parents not preparing

754
00:35:30,493 --> 00:35:35,813
Speaker 2: their children properly. We weren't talking about severe autism. We're

755
00:35:35,813 --> 00:35:38,652
Speaker 2: talking I feel I've got a lot of compassion for

756
00:35:38,693 --> 00:35:40,813
Speaker 2: people that are dealing with kids with severe autism. But

757
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:45,413
Speaker 2: we can talk about kids generally without you saying that

758
00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:48,973
Speaker 2: that because your kid's got severe autism, that we can't

759
00:35:49,013 --> 00:35:51,613
Speaker 2: talk about kids that don't and how you deal with them. Yeah,

760
00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:54,293
Speaker 2: you know, feel for you, and I feel for your kid,

761
00:35:54,333 --> 00:35:56,093
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's very very hard to deal with,

762
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:58,493
Speaker 2: but that's not what we're talking about. We're not talking

763
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:01,733
Speaker 2: about kids with severe autism. So if we can't have

764
00:36:01,813 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 2: that discussion because some people are dealing with a totally

765
00:36:04,573 --> 00:36:07,333
Speaker 2: different issue, then what are we supposed to do? Yeah,

766
00:36:07,653 --> 00:36:10,413
Speaker 2: so says my son was due to start school this term.

767
00:36:10,693 --> 00:36:12,652
Speaker 2: He cannot toilet himself, he cannot sit on the mat,

768
00:36:12,693 --> 00:36:14,933
Speaker 2: he cannot function in a mainstream classroom. Not because of

769
00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:17,533
Speaker 2: poor parenting and laziness, No one said that or lack

770
00:36:17,573 --> 00:36:20,013
Speaker 2: of effort, but because he is disabled, as my child,

771
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:22,493
Speaker 2: one of the children you were talking about. No, you

772
00:36:22,573 --> 00:36:26,173
Speaker 2: spoke as if school readiness is purely a parenting fail. Yeah, no,

773
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:29,293
Speaker 2: we didn't. That narrative is ignorant and harmful. Parents of

774
00:36:29,373 --> 00:36:34,453
Speaker 2: children with high special needs do everything. Therapy, specialist routines, advocacy,

775
00:36:34,573 --> 00:36:37,973
Speaker 2: endless appointments far beyond what parents will ever experience. We

776
00:36:38,053 --> 00:36:40,613
Speaker 2: do not get to opt out. We fight every single day.

777
00:36:40,853 --> 00:36:43,373
Speaker 2: There has been a significant rise in children with complex

778
00:36:43,413 --> 00:36:45,493
Speaker 2: needs in New Zealand and the system is overwhelmed. My

779
00:36:45,533 --> 00:36:47,853
Speaker 2: son will attend a specialist school, but we are currently

780
00:36:47,893 --> 00:36:51,333
Speaker 2: waiting for a place. Yes, and that must be very

781
00:36:51,413 --> 00:36:53,613
Speaker 2: very hard, and we have a lot of sympathy for you,

782
00:36:53,653 --> 00:36:56,413
Speaker 2: but that is absolutely not what we're talking about.

783
00:36:56,573 --> 00:36:57,173
Speaker 3: Very different.

784
00:36:57,453 --> 00:36:59,973
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean to say it again. We've got

785
00:37:00,013 --> 00:37:04,573
Speaker 2: to be able to have conversations about all children without

786
00:37:04,653 --> 00:37:08,253
Speaker 2: being told to shut up because someone with a special

787
00:37:08,573 --> 00:37:11,533
Speaker 2: problem is dealing with a totally different thing than what

788
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:14,213
Speaker 2: we're talking about. Of Course, we're not talking about kids

789
00:37:14,213 --> 00:37:17,653
Speaker 2: with severe autism and read shooting them now. Of course

790
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:20,493
Speaker 2: we're not talking about kids with disabilities a.

791
00:37:20,773 --> 00:37:23,613
Speaker 3: Severe cases absolutely, and we're not bringing you into the

792
00:37:23,693 --> 00:37:26,613
Speaker 3: situation in some sort of attacking manner. The far far

793
00:37:26,813 --> 00:37:29,013
Speaker 3: beyond it. But as you say, we can have a

794
00:37:29,053 --> 00:37:33,133
Speaker 3: conversation about the broad idea of starting kids later in

795
00:37:33,173 --> 00:37:35,333
Speaker 3: life in school and whether that is going to be

796
00:37:35,373 --> 00:37:37,773
Speaker 3: good for their long term future. But can you hear

797
00:37:37,813 --> 00:37:39,373
Speaker 3: from you? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

798
00:37:39,373 --> 00:37:39,893
Speaker 3: a number to call.

799
00:37:39,973 --> 00:37:44,373
Speaker 1: Seven to two, Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls

800
00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:47,093
Speaker 1: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen

801
00:37:47,173 --> 00:37:49,693
Speaker 1: Tylor Adams afternoons, News Talks.

802
00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:54,053
Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks EDB. It is four to two.

803
00:37:54,293 --> 00:37:56,813
Speaker 2: The sexer says, exactly, Matt, thank you for saying that

804
00:37:56,893 --> 00:37:59,413
Speaker 2: we are allowed to talk about children in general and

805
00:37:59,453 --> 00:38:01,933
Speaker 2: what works for most kids. This happens all the time.

806
00:38:02,053 --> 00:38:04,173
Speaker 2: Shut up because my kid has this or that that

807
00:38:04,293 --> 00:38:06,533
Speaker 2: is terrible. We feel for you, but that doesn't mean

808
00:38:06,573 --> 00:38:09,733
Speaker 2: we have to shut down the conversation about all other kids.

809
00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:13,053
Speaker 2: Good text The six says, guys, with respect, your sounding

810
00:38:13,053 --> 00:38:13,653
Speaker 2: a bit didiotic.

811
00:38:13,933 --> 00:38:15,813
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, enough, thank you.

812
00:38:16,013 --> 00:38:18,053
Speaker 2: It certainly wouldn't be the wouldn't be the first time

813
00:38:18,773 --> 00:38:21,133
Speaker 2: I agree with you over children who aren't ready for

814
00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:23,652
Speaker 2: school because of parental ignorance neglect. But you have to

815
00:38:23,653 --> 00:38:26,333
Speaker 2: recognize when your child isn't ready for school and a

816
00:38:26,373 --> 00:38:31,133
Speaker 2: good parent, a good parent knows this. Yeah. Absolutely. All

817
00:38:31,133 --> 00:38:34,773
Speaker 2: I'm saying is make sure you ask the question, is

818
00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:39,253
Speaker 2: my red shirting more about parental anxiety than the child's outcomes? God,

819
00:38:39,253 --> 00:38:41,172
Speaker 2: I at least ask yourself that question before you hold

820
00:38:41,213 --> 00:38:41,493
Speaker 2: them back.

821
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:44,493
Speaker 3: Certainly do and we're keen that on your answer to

822
00:38:44,573 --> 00:38:46,293
Speaker 3: that question. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

823
00:38:46,293 --> 00:38:47,693
Speaker 3: the number to call. We're going to carry this on

824
00:38:47,813 --> 00:38:49,652
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two. If you do want to send

825
00:38:49,693 --> 00:38:52,093
Speaker 3: a text, new Sport and weather is coming up, stay

826
00:38:52,173 --> 00:38:53,733
Speaker 3: right here. We'll be back very.

827
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Speaker 12: Shortly talking with you all afternoon.

828
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Speaker 1: It's Maddie Eaton Tanner Adams Afternoons with Scoter News Talk SEP.

829
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Speaker 3: A very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the program.

830
00:39:17,053 --> 00:39:19,813
Speaker 3: And just a reminder, our mates at SCODA could be

831
00:39:19,893 --> 00:39:22,933
Speaker 3: sending you and a friend to the Tour de France.

832
00:39:23,013 --> 00:39:25,413
Speaker 3: How good when you play Scoter codes. So if you

833
00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:27,893
Speaker 3: need some help with today's clue, keep listening. We'll have

834
00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:30,533
Speaker 3: a clue for you later in this hour.

835
00:39:31,213 --> 00:39:34,013
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, look at this. We've got a cake.

836
00:39:34,253 --> 00:39:35,812
Speaker 3: We've got a prezzy, We've got a cake.

837
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Speaker 2: Find your true love at Garden of Eden, Eden Park,

838
00:39:39,173 --> 00:39:40,773
Speaker 2: the Blues versus Chiefs.

839
00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:41,133
Speaker 3: Ah.

840
00:39:41,213 --> 00:39:43,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Blues was the Chiefs on the fourteenth of February.

841
00:39:43,573 --> 00:39:45,853
Speaker 2: So that full love heart cake had been sent a

842
00:39:45,933 --> 00:39:49,172
Speaker 2: stunning cake. So that's interesting. So the Blues in this

843
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:54,053
Speaker 2: picture here, in this card from Eden Park, is portrayed

844
00:39:54,053 --> 00:39:57,413
Speaker 2: as a big, handsome strong man, and the Chiefs have

845
00:39:57,453 --> 00:39:59,933
Speaker 2: been portrayed as a beautiful, beautiful young woman.

846
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Speaker 3: Interesting take.

847
00:40:00,933 --> 00:40:03,172
Speaker 2: It's Valentine's Day, the Blues are playing the Chiefs. It's

848
00:40:03,253 --> 00:40:06,252
Speaker 2: under lights at the Garden of Eden and it's open

849
00:40:06,293 --> 00:40:08,333
Speaker 2: for business. If you were single, come and see what happens.

850
00:40:08,413 --> 00:40:10,373
Speaker 2: If you are coupled up, make it a date night.

851
00:40:10,933 --> 00:40:13,413
Speaker 2: If your true love is the Blues You're already home.

852
00:40:13,533 --> 00:40:17,413
Speaker 2: They'll be flirting, love song dedications echoing around the stadium,

853
00:40:17,573 --> 00:40:21,413
Speaker 2: match day mingling, date night vibes, and twelve stadium glamping

854
00:40:21,533 --> 00:40:24,053
Speaker 2: nights up for grabs for those who find their true

855
00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:27,253
Speaker 2: love or at least a good story. Geez, well we

856
00:40:27,253 --> 00:40:28,453
Speaker 2: know what's going to be happening in those times.

857
00:40:28,493 --> 00:40:31,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we provide Sorry for the cleaning crew.

858
00:40:31,013 --> 00:40:33,813
Speaker 2: What happens in the garden of Eden, It's up to you, lovely.

859
00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:36,293
Speaker 3: How good Valentine's stay at the footy? I mean that

860
00:40:36,413 --> 00:40:38,293
Speaker 3: is the dream, That is the absolute dream.

861
00:40:38,653 --> 00:40:40,733
Speaker 2: She's a hard road finding a perfect woman.

862
00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:43,093
Speaker 3: Eden Park looking after you.

863
00:40:43,813 --> 00:40:45,533
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it'll be interesting, it would be Do

864
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Speaker 2: you want to go to the Rugby Blues Chiefs for

865
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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 8: Love?

867
00:40:50,213 --> 00:40:52,413
Speaker 2: Will we be taking mave there? Or will be now

868
00:40:52,493 --> 00:40:55,493
Speaker 2: now that you've your first Valentine's Day since you got engaged.

869
00:40:55,573 --> 00:40:57,373
Speaker 3: Yep, she doesn't know it yet, but yeah, kind of

870
00:40:57,373 --> 00:41:01,333
Speaker 3: the footage love romantic night at the football? How good?

871
00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:04,493
Speaker 3: It's something for me and nothing for you. All right,

872
00:41:04,493 --> 00:41:06,973
Speaker 3: beg to our discussion we've been having about sending your

873
00:41:07,053 --> 00:41:09,933
Speaker 3: child to school late. It's called red shirting and it's

874
00:41:09,933 --> 00:41:11,533
Speaker 3: a bit of a trend at the moment on social media.

875
00:41:11,573 --> 00:41:13,533
Speaker 3: But the question we've got for you is is this

876
00:41:13,653 --> 00:41:17,613
Speaker 3: really about the child's needs or could this be about

877
00:41:17,613 --> 00:41:20,453
Speaker 3: the anxiety of the parents. That it's very hard for

878
00:41:20,573 --> 00:41:22,733
Speaker 3: parents to say see you later on that first day

879
00:41:22,773 --> 00:41:24,613
Speaker 3: at school when they're five years old, and let's be honest,

880
00:41:24,613 --> 00:41:27,013
Speaker 3: they're still a baby at five years old. Yeah, and

881
00:41:27,093 --> 00:41:28,453
Speaker 3: that cause is someone that to say, I want to

882
00:41:28,493 --> 00:41:28,893
Speaker 3: keep you home.

883
00:41:28,933 --> 00:41:31,413
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, obviously there's a wide range of

884
00:41:31,653 --> 00:41:34,173
Speaker 2: rage of kids and some that are it's so severe.

885
00:41:34,613 --> 00:41:36,853
Speaker 2: But you know, your kids should be anxious on the

886
00:41:36,853 --> 00:41:39,333
Speaker 2: first day of school, and that's a great thing for

887
00:41:39,373 --> 00:41:42,573
Speaker 2: them to get over that anxiety, you know, that's great resilience.

888
00:41:42,573 --> 00:41:44,813
Speaker 2: They go into that room with all those kids. When

889
00:41:44,853 --> 00:41:49,613
Speaker 2: I was a kid at Maori Hall Kindergarten, the day

890
00:41:49,693 --> 00:41:51,453
Speaker 2: that when you were going to school next you were

891
00:41:51,493 --> 00:41:54,013
Speaker 2: put on the throne. So your day, your last day

892
00:41:54,053 --> 00:41:56,732
Speaker 2: at kindy, you had the king's throne and everyone would

893
00:41:56,733 --> 00:41:58,093
Speaker 2: celebrate you because you were going to school.

894
00:41:58,173 --> 00:42:00,613
Speaker 3: That's amazing, so good, So you'd look forward to being

895
00:42:00,653 --> 00:42:02,413
Speaker 3: the king for that day.

896
00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:05,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a huge thing, and I think with

897
00:42:05,613 --> 00:42:07,933
Speaker 2: our kids before their first day of school. Were like, amazing,

898
00:42:08,013 --> 00:42:10,613
Speaker 2: what a big boy. Look at that. Here's your uniform,

899
00:42:10,693 --> 00:42:12,573
Speaker 2: here's your school bag. You're going to school.

900
00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:15,653
Speaker 3: You're a big boy, big strong boy, going to school.

901
00:42:15,693 --> 00:42:16,493
Speaker 3: This is awesome.

902
00:42:16,613 --> 00:42:20,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sort of geed them up. So their first

903
00:42:20,413 --> 00:42:22,493
Speaker 2: day of school was a challenge to get through when

904
00:42:22,533 --> 00:42:25,213
Speaker 2: they got home. Yes, you know, dap them up.

905
00:42:25,253 --> 00:42:27,133
Speaker 3: And that's what it should go for a lot of kids.

906
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:29,133
Speaker 3: It should have been exciting event to go to school

907
00:42:29,173 --> 00:42:31,533
Speaker 3: and get amongst at and make some new friends.

908
00:42:31,373 --> 00:42:37,212
Speaker 2: The sooner the better. Yeah, compulsory from nine months. Yeah,

909
00:42:37,213 --> 00:42:38,933
Speaker 2: and five has quite a lot of years to be

910
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:40,253
Speaker 2: at home before you go to school.

911
00:42:40,413 --> 00:42:40,693
Speaker 3: Yeah.

912
00:42:41,333 --> 00:42:43,933
Speaker 2: As a qualified social worker and grandmother of five, I

913
00:42:44,013 --> 00:42:46,292
Speaker 2: believe that it's better to support your child to start

914
00:42:46,373 --> 00:42:49,373
Speaker 2: school siss text, rather than reinforce their feelings that school

915
00:42:49,453 --> 00:42:51,933
Speaker 2: is a scary place by holding them back. I picked

916
00:42:52,013 --> 00:42:55,733
Speaker 2: up my youngest grand son at three pm yesterday. Here's five.

917
00:42:56,013 --> 00:42:58,692
Speaker 2: In response to my question about his day, he said,

918
00:42:58,813 --> 00:43:00,853
Speaker 2: it was great, but it felt like the whole day

919
00:43:00,893 --> 00:43:01,973
Speaker 2: only took ten minutes.

920
00:43:02,253 --> 00:43:03,692
Speaker 3: He was buzzing, Oh, how good.

921
00:43:03,773 --> 00:43:05,133
Speaker 2: You see. That's what I found when my kids went

922
00:43:05,173 --> 00:43:07,253
Speaker 2: to school, they'd been so many kids around them to

923
00:43:07,253 --> 00:43:09,013
Speaker 2: do stuff with. Yep, it's intense.

924
00:43:09,293 --> 00:43:10,493
Speaker 3: So I love to hear from you. O. E. One

925
00:43:10,573 --> 00:43:13,133
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you think it's important

926
00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:15,853
Speaker 3: that your kids get into school and start that real

927
00:43:15,853 --> 00:43:18,893
Speaker 3: world process at five or are you the other side

928
00:43:18,893 --> 00:43:20,252
Speaker 3: of the equation cheap?

929
00:43:20,253 --> 00:43:23,013
Speaker 2: As I had anxiety in my first day of school

930
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:25,573
Speaker 2: and the first at of high school. I turned out

931
00:43:25,573 --> 00:43:28,692
Speaker 2: perfectly fine. Imagine how my social skills would have been

932
00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:30,533
Speaker 2: if they'd kept me home because I was anxious.

933
00:43:30,893 --> 00:43:35,853
Speaker 3: Yep, Lola, how are you hello? Lola?

934
00:43:35,973 --> 00:43:38,333
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry about sorry, Lola, Can you start again? I

935
00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:40,133
Speaker 2: failed to turn your phone on. Apologies for that.

936
00:43:41,373 --> 00:43:46,172
Speaker 13: Okay, Hello, Well hi, great topic you've been talking about.

937
00:43:46,453 --> 00:43:47,853
Speaker 2: Thanks for ringing.

938
00:43:48,813 --> 00:43:55,573
Speaker 13: I visited at kindergarten and they have children up to

939
00:43:55,613 --> 00:43:58,733
Speaker 13: the age of seven, and I had to produce my

940
00:43:58,893 --> 00:44:05,293
Speaker 13: passporttion to show that I wasn't a spy from another kindergarten. Yeah,

941
00:44:05,333 --> 00:44:10,212
Speaker 13: and they have a great system in place now. When

942
00:44:10,293 --> 00:44:15,652
Speaker 13: children go to school five, they're really still babies. When

943
00:44:15,693 --> 00:44:19,933
Speaker 13: they turned seven, they developed judgments and the first people

944
00:44:19,973 --> 00:44:21,573
Speaker 13: they use it on and see parents.

945
00:44:22,053 --> 00:44:23,853
Speaker 14: But they have judgments now.

946
00:44:23,893 --> 00:44:26,172
Speaker 13: There's children who don't have.

947
00:44:26,293 --> 00:44:27,413
Speaker 8: The social skills.

948
00:44:28,173 --> 00:44:31,573
Speaker 13: They get teased that five, and they have a hell

949
00:44:31,573 --> 00:44:34,333
Speaker 13: of a life at school. I know because I had

950
00:44:34,373 --> 00:44:37,493
Speaker 13: a daughter in the same position. And believe it or not,

951
00:44:37,573 --> 00:44:40,172
Speaker 13: my mother died when I was three and I was

952
00:44:40,213 --> 00:44:44,853
Speaker 13: living at my grandparents' place and my grand my grandfather.

953
00:44:44,373 --> 00:44:45,253
Speaker 6: Had already died.

954
00:44:45,653 --> 00:44:49,893
Speaker 13: They were old. She was seventy eight, and she died

955
00:44:50,333 --> 00:44:53,853
Speaker 13: when I was seven, and so I didn't go to

956
00:44:53,933 --> 00:44:57,053
Speaker 13: kindergarten and I didn't get social skills because they had

957
00:44:57,093 --> 00:45:02,293
Speaker 13: no mother and I and I don't know if they

958
00:45:02,293 --> 00:45:07,293
Speaker 13: had kindergartens back in the nineteen early fifties because the

959
00:45:07,373 --> 00:45:10,973
Speaker 13: nineteen fifty old being five, But before that, I don't

960
00:45:10,973 --> 00:45:16,853
Speaker 13: know because it's just after the war years and so

961
00:45:16,853 --> 00:45:19,413
Speaker 13: so not having the social schools when I was young,

962
00:45:20,773 --> 00:45:23,613
Speaker 13: my children followed the same thing, you know.

963
00:45:23,853 --> 00:45:26,413
Speaker 2: And do you think you'd have the social skills if

964
00:45:26,453 --> 00:45:28,133
Speaker 2: you don't have the social skills at five and you'd

965
00:45:28,173 --> 00:45:30,493
Speaker 2: stay at home, Do you think you'll then have the

966
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:33,413
Speaker 2: social skills at seven or you're just putting off the inevitable.

967
00:45:35,013 --> 00:45:37,573
Speaker 13: No, Because I was passed around from pillar to post.

968
00:45:37,653 --> 00:45:39,652
Speaker 13: I meant, from the school to that school. I didn't

969
00:45:39,693 --> 00:45:40,053
Speaker 13: get to know.

970
00:45:40,213 --> 00:45:41,933
Speaker 14: I didn't grow up with anyone.

971
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:46,133
Speaker 13: And so until I was eleven, I wasn't in a

972
00:45:46,213 --> 00:45:50,732
Speaker 13: permanent residence because my father remarried. And so.

973
00:45:52,253 --> 00:45:55,652
Speaker 2: It sounds like you had quite quite a challenging situation.

974
00:45:55,973 --> 00:45:58,053
Speaker 2: But you sound like you've turned out a right Lola.

975
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:03,413
Speaker 13: Well, I grew awareness. I was about justice and everything.

976
00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 13: So I fought my way. I had to find my

977
00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:09,293
Speaker 13: own way in life because there was no one out there,

978
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:11,373
Speaker 13: you know. I mean I had aunties and they were

979
00:46:11,413 --> 00:46:14,653
Speaker 13: really good, and I lived with them for short times

980
00:46:14,853 --> 00:46:18,213
Speaker 13: and went to school from their places. But I missed

981
00:46:18,373 --> 00:46:22,013
Speaker 13: the first five years of getting social skills in kindergarten.

982
00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:26,973
Speaker 13: And my daughter, she had twelve sessions in kindergarten because

983
00:46:26,973 --> 00:46:32,573
Speaker 13: that was paperinger back in the seventies, and they had

984
00:46:32,573 --> 00:46:34,413
Speaker 13: a waiting list of eight hundred kids.

985
00:46:34,573 --> 00:46:39,053
Speaker 2: I mean there was yeah. Yeah, Well, thank you so

986
00:46:39,173 --> 00:46:42,293
Speaker 2: much for your call, Lola, and all the best. Sounds

987
00:46:42,293 --> 00:46:44,173
Speaker 2: like you had quite an interesting situation.

988
00:46:44,413 --> 00:46:44,613
Speaker 4: Yeah.

989
00:46:45,093 --> 00:46:48,493
Speaker 2: In kindergarten and Singapore it is quite different though, so

990
00:46:48,773 --> 00:46:52,013
Speaker 2: you may start school later, but it's very intense. It

991
00:46:52,013 --> 00:46:54,692
Speaker 2: would be what we describe as primary school. So when

992
00:46:54,693 --> 00:46:56,973
Speaker 2: you go to primary school now, it's not like you

993
00:46:57,013 --> 00:46:59,813
Speaker 2: go straight into hardcore academic stuff. You've got a lovely

994
00:46:59,893 --> 00:47:02,933
Speaker 2: teacher that's talking. You know, there's teaching you how to

995
00:47:02,973 --> 00:47:04,652
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, where to put your shoes, put

996
00:47:04,693 --> 00:47:07,013
Speaker 2: stuff away. You're sitting on the mat getting stories. Kindergarten

997
00:47:07,013 --> 00:47:11,493
Speaker 2: and Singapore is very structured, three to four hours daily program,

998
00:47:11,533 --> 00:47:16,493
Speaker 2: heavily focused on building academic foundations in literacy and numeracy

999
00:47:16,533 --> 00:47:17,853
Speaker 2: to prepare for primary school.

1000
00:47:18,493 --> 00:47:20,613
Speaker 3: So bit more full on than playing with lego.

1001
00:47:20,813 --> 00:47:25,613
Speaker 2: Whilst you may still be called kindergarten or a like name. Yeah,

1002
00:47:25,653 --> 00:47:28,973
Speaker 2: it is very different. It is hardcore building you up

1003
00:47:29,013 --> 00:47:31,013
Speaker 2: for school and still part of the school system for

1004
00:47:31,053 --> 00:47:32,093
Speaker 2: academic achievement.

1005
00:47:32,173 --> 00:47:34,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, very different. I love to hear your thoughts. I

1006
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:36,533
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty holding your back,

1007
00:47:36,773 --> 00:47:39,493
Speaker 3: holding your child rather back from school? Is it about

1008
00:47:39,493 --> 00:47:41,693
Speaker 3: the child's needs or anxiety of the parents? Love to

1009
00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:42,212
Speaker 3: get your thoughts.

1010
00:47:42,293 --> 00:47:46,973
Speaker 1: Quarter pass too, your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen

1011
00:47:47,093 --> 00:47:51,653
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1012
00:47:51,493 --> 00:47:51,853
Speaker 5: Said be.

1013
00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:56,933
Speaker 3: Seventeen pass too. Plenty of texts coming through.

1014
00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:59,933
Speaker 2: We still do the king Throne on Wahiki Island. The

1015
00:48:00,013 --> 00:48:01,373
Speaker 2: kids look forward to it. Yeah, that's what I was

1016
00:48:01,373 --> 00:48:05,613
Speaker 2: talking about before. I'm glad people did that because you

1017
00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:08,933
Speaker 2: know it see day before school. Yeah, you know you're

1018
00:48:08,933 --> 00:48:11,613
Speaker 2: about to five. To have that throne you put on,

1019
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:13,613
Speaker 2: it makes it seem like going to school is important

1020
00:48:13,653 --> 00:48:15,813
Speaker 2: and something to do. And you've won something.

1021
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:18,093
Speaker 3: Fizzits you up for something exciting. This is good for you.

1022
00:48:18,213 --> 00:48:18,652
Speaker 12: Well done.

1023
00:48:18,773 --> 00:48:21,613
Speaker 2: I can still remember it. And because my freeing one

1024
00:48:21,653 --> 00:48:24,933
Speaker 2: of my best mates, Davy Feathers, he was going to

1025
00:48:24,933 --> 00:48:26,253
Speaker 2: school at the same time as me, we were on

1026
00:48:26,293 --> 00:48:28,693
Speaker 2: the throne together. I think I've still got a picture

1027
00:48:28,693 --> 00:48:28,893
Speaker 2: of it.

1028
00:48:29,133 --> 00:48:30,373
Speaker 3: Oh good, yeah, yeah.

1029
00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:32,573
Speaker 2: Actually that was a day after I whiped my pants

1030
00:48:32,613 --> 00:48:38,573
Speaker 2: at daycare and had to wear home these jeans. These

1031
00:48:38,613 --> 00:48:40,133
Speaker 2: pants were way too big for me, and so there's

1032
00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:41,413
Speaker 2: a petfortion around the other way.

1033
00:48:41,493 --> 00:48:44,373
Speaker 3: So you needed that king day more than anybody else.

1034
00:48:44,413 --> 00:48:46,253
Speaker 2: I didn't deserve to go on the throne. Actually, think

1035
00:48:46,293 --> 00:48:48,093
Speaker 2: about it that I whiped my pants the day before.

1036
00:48:47,933 --> 00:48:50,253
Speaker 3: Heads off to KINDI workers, yeah, and it was.

1037
00:48:50,213 --> 00:48:51,853
Speaker 2: Just too fun. We were playing King of the Castle

1038
00:48:52,053 --> 00:48:54,933
Speaker 2: giving with the kings, and I wasn't I was at

1039
00:48:54,933 --> 00:48:56,453
Speaker 2: the top and I wasn't willing to give up my

1040
00:48:56,493 --> 00:48:59,093
Speaker 2: spot at the top of the slide for all those

1041
00:48:59,133 --> 00:48:59,973
Speaker 2: dirty rascals.

1042
00:49:00,133 --> 00:49:01,333
Speaker 3: It's dedication, and so.

1043
00:49:01,293 --> 00:49:02,893
Speaker 2: I stayed up there so long I'll wed my pants.

1044
00:49:02,933 --> 00:49:04,573
Speaker 3: You knew what you were doing, Yeah, you knew what

1045
00:49:04,613 --> 00:49:05,573
Speaker 3: the punishment was going to be.

1046
00:49:06,453 --> 00:49:08,652
Speaker 2: I stand by the decision. It was worth it. That's

1047
00:49:08,693 --> 00:49:10,613
Speaker 2: worth it to keep that power just a little bit longer.

1048
00:49:11,333 --> 00:49:12,172
Speaker 3: Bruce, how are you?

1049
00:49:14,733 --> 00:49:18,773
Speaker 10: It's just so funny. Just give you my perspective on

1050
00:49:18,853 --> 00:49:23,333
Speaker 10: this education thing. I started out as a teacher many

1051
00:49:23,413 --> 00:49:26,093
Speaker 10: years ago, and I cut my teeth in traditional boys'

1052
00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:30,293
Speaker 10: schools like Auckland Grammar and those kinds of high schools

1053
00:49:30,293 --> 00:49:32,933
Speaker 10: where corporal punishment kept students in line.

1054
00:49:32,973 --> 00:49:34,853
Speaker 4: And thankfully that's gone.

1055
00:49:34,973 --> 00:49:38,613
Speaker 10: But I reknewed the registration through or four years ago,

1056
00:49:39,573 --> 00:49:41,493
Speaker 10: and I did a bit of relief in the Far

1057
00:49:41,693 --> 00:49:45,653
Speaker 10: North because the area I teach maths and science chronically short.

1058
00:49:46,453 --> 00:49:51,453
Speaker 10: I just couldn't believe what had happened. If I can

1059
00:49:51,453 --> 00:49:54,693
Speaker 10: give you a prime example, you go in the normal routine,

1060
00:49:55,173 --> 00:49:57,373
Speaker 10: sit down and get your books out, and there were

1061
00:49:57,413 --> 00:50:01,333
Speaker 10: two kids there who had headphones on in your computers open,

1062
00:50:02,613 --> 00:50:05,693
Speaker 10: and I went up to my you know what we're

1063
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:06,613
Speaker 10: doing our handwriting?

1064
00:50:06,693 --> 00:50:07,093
Speaker 4: What's to go?

1065
00:50:08,373 --> 00:50:11,253
Speaker 10: Secondary kids that really struggle to read and write at

1066
00:50:11,333 --> 00:50:15,652
Speaker 10: year nine and ten nowadays. And they had a card

1067
00:50:15,693 --> 00:50:22,093
Speaker 10: on their table that said ADHD. And apparently that card

1068
00:50:22,133 --> 00:50:25,893
Speaker 10: gives them permission to not engage with what's going on,

1069
00:50:26,413 --> 00:50:31,813
Speaker 10: but to engage with a computer and headphones. And after that,

1070
00:50:32,013 --> 00:50:34,933
Speaker 10: I was quite mortified. At this day, they just seemed

1071
00:50:34,973 --> 00:50:37,213
Speaker 10: to be able to They had this permission card that

1072
00:50:37,373 --> 00:50:42,333
Speaker 10: allowed them to opt out of normal classroom routines. And

1073
00:50:42,533 --> 00:50:44,693
Speaker 10: I sort of dug and I found out what's happening

1074
00:50:45,773 --> 00:50:48,653
Speaker 10: is that these twelve thirty to forty year old kids

1075
00:50:49,173 --> 00:50:54,453
Speaker 10: whose parents get anxious because they display symptoms of ADHD,

1076
00:50:54,533 --> 00:50:59,293
Speaker 10: which in my opinion, every young person has, fidgity, restlessness

1077
00:50:59,373 --> 00:51:03,213
Speaker 10: up and down, quick eye movement, nervousness. Those are all

1078
00:51:03,493 --> 00:51:08,293
Speaker 10: symptoms of ADHD. And these students are given to diagnose

1079
00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:15,373
Speaker 10: from a child psychologist, giving them a tag of ADHD. Now,

1080
00:51:16,133 --> 00:51:22,693
Speaker 10: from what I understand, ADHD is a lifelong visibility. It's incurable,

1081
00:51:23,293 --> 00:51:27,693
Speaker 10: it's only treatable, and these kids with twelve thirty forty

1082
00:51:27,773 --> 00:51:32,893
Speaker 10: year olds whose brains are still developing, are being given

1083
00:51:32,933 --> 00:51:36,213
Speaker 10: this What I would call a get out of life card.

1084
00:51:36,813 --> 00:51:39,533
Speaker 10: And I saw it in the classroom where they have

1085
00:51:39,693 --> 00:51:43,333
Speaker 10: this card which gives them permission not to do what

1086
00:51:43,373 --> 00:51:45,853
Speaker 10: the rest of the class are doing because they've had

1087
00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:48,013
Speaker 10: a diagnosis of ADHD, and so.

1088
00:51:48,293 --> 00:51:50,213
Speaker 2: They're on their headphones. Are they listening to stuff on

1089
00:51:50,253 --> 00:51:51,453
Speaker 2: their headphones or are they y.

1090
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:53,413
Speaker 5: On there.

1091
00:51:53,493 --> 00:51:55,773
Speaker 10: They've got their own headphones, they've got their own computer,

1092
00:51:56,813 --> 00:51:59,652
Speaker 10: and you can't constantly go and check to make sure

1093
00:51:59,653 --> 00:52:04,133
Speaker 10: they're on tasks and roach to students. And I've got

1094
00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:06,093
Speaker 10: a chorus from the other kids in the class who

1095
00:52:06,093 --> 00:52:09,293
Speaker 10: are aware of it, and they said, he's a DHD, sir.

1096
00:52:10,493 --> 00:52:13,253
Speaker 10: And they become used to having these kids in their

1097
00:52:13,333 --> 00:52:15,973
Speaker 10: class with this ADHD card.

1098
00:52:16,693 --> 00:52:19,893
Speaker 2: That just allows some wonder how much of it becomes

1099
00:52:19,933 --> 00:52:22,573
Speaker 2: a self fulfilling prophecy. You know, I don't know on

1100
00:52:22,613 --> 00:52:25,613
Speaker 2: these individual cases. But if you tell someone and there's

1101
00:52:25,653 --> 00:52:28,253
Speaker 2: no doubt that there is over diagnosis going on, I

1102
00:52:28,293 --> 00:52:30,773
Speaker 2: think everyone admits that now. So if you tell someone

1103
00:52:30,813 --> 00:52:34,133
Speaker 2: they've got a DHD and then you start treating them different,

1104
00:52:34,173 --> 00:52:37,493
Speaker 2: then they will become more and more different, and it

1105
00:52:37,653 --> 00:52:42,613
Speaker 2: can become somewhat of a you know, a self fulfilling prophecy,

1106
00:52:43,213 --> 00:52:46,653
Speaker 2: because there is there is truth to cognitive behavioral therapy

1107
00:52:46,813 --> 00:52:50,933
Speaker 2: right where you where you. You know, if someone's got

1108
00:52:50,973 --> 00:52:52,652
Speaker 2: a problem with something, you give them a lot of

1109
00:52:52,693 --> 00:52:54,253
Speaker 2: it and they get used to it, you know. I

1110
00:52:54,333 --> 00:52:57,093
Speaker 2: mean a very simple, simple way of looking at this.

1111
00:52:57,173 --> 00:52:59,053
Speaker 2: If you're scared of spiders, then you start showing the

1112
00:52:59,133 --> 00:53:01,853
Speaker 2: pictures of spiders, yes, and then the more, the more

1113
00:53:01,893 --> 00:53:04,333
Speaker 2: I fa they get with spiders over time. I talk

1114
00:53:04,413 --> 00:53:06,733
Speaker 2: to this woman at Oxford University for my block about this,

1115
00:53:06,893 --> 00:53:09,613
Speaker 2: and she was dealing with p with It was kind

1116
00:53:09,613 --> 00:53:11,293
Speaker 2: of controversial what she was doing, but she was dealing

1117
00:53:11,293 --> 00:53:15,933
Speaker 2: with people that had agrophobia and claustrophobia, and she was

1118
00:53:15,973 --> 00:53:20,093
Speaker 2: just hiffing them in a cupboard for fifteen minutes, padded covered,

1119
00:53:20,173 --> 00:53:22,853
Speaker 2: and when they came out there there because they hadn't died,

1120
00:53:22,933 --> 00:53:24,573
Speaker 2: they taught their brain that it was okay.

1121
00:53:24,733 --> 00:53:27,293
Speaker 3: Yes, that initial panic and then that dies down and

1122
00:53:27,293 --> 00:53:29,533
Speaker 3: your brain starts to rewire and say she would not

1123
00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:30,013
Speaker 3: in danger.

1124
00:53:30,173 --> 00:53:32,133
Speaker 2: To be fair, she didn't describe it like that, but

1125
00:53:33,093 --> 00:53:35,293
Speaker 2: her point was that you've got to prove to your

1126
00:53:35,293 --> 00:53:39,853
Speaker 2: brain that that that it's not going to kill you

1127
00:53:39,893 --> 00:53:41,853
Speaker 2: these things and the more you hide from them, the

1128
00:53:41,853 --> 00:53:43,853
Speaker 2: bigger they get, the bigger the problems they get. So

1129
00:53:44,173 --> 00:53:47,413
Speaker 2: I really feel for kids that if they're being incorrectly

1130
00:53:47,453 --> 00:53:49,973
Speaker 2: diagnosed with ADHD and then they're sitting in a class

1131
00:53:50,133 --> 00:53:53,213
Speaker 2: becoming different and being told that they're different, and we're

1132
00:53:53,253 --> 00:53:55,813
Speaker 2: told they've got this problem, and then you know, restricting

1133
00:53:55,813 --> 00:53:57,093
Speaker 2: their experience because of it.

1134
00:53:57,813 --> 00:54:01,333
Speaker 10: Well, I also thinks quite a bit of responsibility is

1135
00:54:01,373 --> 00:54:03,893
Speaker 10: sheeted home to the parents, because you know, these modern

1136
00:54:03,973 --> 00:54:07,293
Speaker 10: generation of Pearans just don't realize how hard parent it is.

1137
00:54:08,013 --> 00:54:10,493
Speaker 10: And they said, of oh, you know, I can't control them,

1138
00:54:10,493 --> 00:54:12,773
Speaker 10: and that's the worst thing a child can hear. So

1139
00:54:12,813 --> 00:54:17,172
Speaker 10: they rush off to a child psychologist. They describe the symptoms. Oh,

1140
00:54:17,293 --> 00:54:22,973
Speaker 10: you've got ADHD, and therefore you know, you've got these

1141
00:54:22,973 --> 00:54:27,172
Speaker 10: special exemptions. And the parents say, oh, thank goodness. And

1142
00:54:27,213 --> 00:54:29,772
Speaker 10: it also gives them a reason to sort of give

1143
00:54:29,773 --> 00:54:32,693
Speaker 10: them special treatment, like spending all their day on computers.

1144
00:54:32,733 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 10: And I find I'm coming across thirteen forteen year old children,

1145
00:54:37,533 --> 00:54:41,133
Speaker 10: students that can't write, but their deemed is very intelligent.

1146
00:54:41,373 --> 00:54:44,453
Speaker 10: They've spent their whole educational formative years on a keyboard.

1147
00:54:45,173 --> 00:54:48,293
Speaker 10: Their ability to even hold a pencil. The muscles in

1148
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,973
Speaker 10: their hands are not formed to actually hold a pencil

1149
00:54:51,053 --> 00:54:54,212
Speaker 10: and write. And you know, that's why we're having all

1150
00:54:54,253 --> 00:54:58,933
Speaker 10: this drama with kids not being able to write properly, read, properly, spelled,

1151
00:54:58,973 --> 00:55:03,053
Speaker 10: properly because this generation now have been brought up on

1152
00:55:03,173 --> 00:55:08,293
Speaker 10: keyboards companies like Dell, which mass produced them and gave

1153
00:55:08,373 --> 00:55:13,893
Speaker 10: even the schools at bargain prices, schools grab them. Oh, technology,

1154
00:55:14,093 --> 00:55:17,533
Speaker 10: we're at the cutting edge of education and I think

1155
00:55:17,573 --> 00:55:22,013
Speaker 10: in years to come, this generation of teachers and educators

1156
00:55:22,253 --> 00:55:25,733
Speaker 10: are going to have to answer for putting keyboards and

1157
00:55:25,773 --> 00:55:29,413
Speaker 10: screens in front of our children and just forgetting what

1158
00:55:29,573 --> 00:55:31,212
Speaker 10: the basics of education are.

1159
00:55:32,053 --> 00:55:33,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call, Bruce.

1160
00:55:33,773 --> 00:55:36,013
Speaker 3: Potentially a great call, Thank you very much. I mean

1161
00:55:36,053 --> 00:55:39,333
Speaker 3: it is You've got to be so careful with those diagnoses.

1162
00:55:39,453 --> 00:55:41,573
Speaker 3: And I know it's a complicated situation out there, and

1163
00:55:41,573 --> 00:55:43,853
Speaker 3: there's a lot of pearans at the extreme end of things,

1164
00:55:43,893 --> 00:55:48,573
Speaker 3: but when your carte blanche or cavalier about those diagnoses,

1165
00:55:48,613 --> 00:55:52,053
Speaker 3: you put that child on a tradictory in their life

1166
00:55:52,173 --> 00:55:55,333
Speaker 3: that they've got no control over. Sometimes that tradictory is

1167
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:57,253
Speaker 3: the right thing. Sometimes it's not. You've just got to

1168
00:55:57,293 --> 00:55:58,093
Speaker 3: be so careful with it.

1169
00:55:58,373 --> 00:56:01,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no doubt that there is real ADHD.

1170
00:56:02,053 --> 00:56:03,373
Speaker 2: The thing well, I mean, I don't know when I

1171
00:56:03,413 --> 00:56:07,652
Speaker 2: say there's no doubt, I assume. But there's people with

1172
00:56:07,693 --> 00:56:10,652
Speaker 2: serious problems. Absolutely, But I think I think we'd all

1173
00:56:10,653 --> 00:56:12,933
Speaker 2: agree that it's being over diagnosed. I guarantee I would

1174
00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:14,853
Speaker 2: have been diagnosed with ADHD as that's cool.

1175
00:56:14,893 --> 00:56:15,413
Speaker 3: I could see that.

1176
00:56:15,813 --> 00:56:16,733
Speaker 2: You can guarantee that.

1177
00:56:16,853 --> 00:56:17,013
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1178
00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:20,373
Speaker 2: In fact, when I was on Taskmaster at the TV show,

1179
00:56:20,533 --> 00:56:23,973
Speaker 2: there was psychologists, you know, messaging me sliding into my

1180
00:56:24,053 --> 00:56:26,573
Speaker 2: DMS to diagnose me with ADHD.

1181
00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:30,053
Speaker 3: That is telling Yeah, all right, beg very shortly. It

1182
00:56:30,133 --> 00:56:31,653
Speaker 3: is twenty six past.

1183
00:56:31,373 --> 00:56:38,893
Speaker 1: Two Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1184
00:56:38,893 --> 00:56:40,693
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on News Talk.

1185
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:42,293
Speaker 3: ZB twenty nine past two.

1186
00:56:43,213 --> 00:56:45,212
Speaker 2: Boy, there's so many texts coming through on those people

1187
00:56:45,253 --> 00:56:49,252
Speaker 2: are very very excited about it. Hi, guys here here,

1188
00:56:49,413 --> 00:56:51,573
Speaker 2: I agree these child therapists have a lot to answer for.

1189
00:56:51,773 --> 00:56:54,973
Speaker 2: My granddaughter was just play naughty for her parents. Mother

1190
00:56:55,013 --> 00:56:57,692
Speaker 2: started saying she was on the spectrum. Made me so mad.

1191
00:56:57,973 --> 00:57:00,893
Speaker 2: You can't say anything though, the world's gone crazy. Says

1192
00:57:01,013 --> 00:57:06,413
Speaker 2: an but this person says, oh my god, you cannot

1193
00:57:06,413 --> 00:57:10,172
Speaker 2: get an ADHD diagnosis easily. There is lengthy testing protocols

1194
00:57:10,173 --> 00:57:13,533
Speaker 2: completed by the child parents in school, done by psychiatrists.

1195
00:57:13,933 --> 00:57:16,413
Speaker 3: Make sure you are speaking your acts nice voice.

1196
00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:19,493
Speaker 2: That's what that's how the tips came through. Anyway you

1197
00:57:19,573 --> 00:57:22,573
Speaker 2: list finish up this topic, it seems likely that some children,

1198
00:57:23,093 --> 00:57:25,133
Speaker 2: you know, it seems possible, may benefit from extra time

1199
00:57:25,133 --> 00:57:27,573
Speaker 2: to mature before starting school. And look, we're not talking

1200
00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:29,933
Speaker 2: about people with severe autism or anything like that is

1201
00:57:29,973 --> 00:57:33,773
Speaker 2: a totally different subject. But the evidence suggests that any

1202
00:57:33,813 --> 00:57:39,013
Speaker 2: gains are short lived in delaying entry, and it can

1203
00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:43,373
Speaker 2: can simply postpone the necessary support adjustment because once you

1204
00:57:43,453 --> 00:57:45,413
Speaker 2: go to school, if you do have some problems, then

1205
00:57:45,973 --> 00:57:48,853
Speaker 2: often the schools are the best place to identify it.

1206
00:57:49,173 --> 00:57:51,693
Speaker 2: Got the resources because you're in a room with an expert,

1207
00:57:51,973 --> 00:57:54,293
Speaker 2: right and you've got the resources exactly as you say,

1208
00:57:54,293 --> 00:57:57,293
Speaker 2: to identify any problems. So you know, obviously it's up

1209
00:57:57,293 --> 00:57:58,853
Speaker 2: to the parents what they want to do with their kids.

1210
00:57:58,853 --> 00:58:01,173
Speaker 2: They're their kids. But I just think as long as

1211
00:58:01,173 --> 00:58:04,373
Speaker 2: you make sure it's not your anxiety levels and it's

1212
00:58:04,413 --> 00:58:07,653
Speaker 2: the kids anxiety levels, because facing a big challenge and

1213
00:58:07,653 --> 00:58:13,213
Speaker 2: coming out strong as what what makes humans great. Yep,

1214
00:58:13,413 --> 00:58:14,973
Speaker 2: you know that's what they've got to do all through

1215
00:58:14,973 --> 00:58:20,253
Speaker 2: your life. You're going to be face anxiety inducing situations

1216
00:58:20,333 --> 00:58:21,773
Speaker 2: and become stronger for facing them.

1217
00:58:21,893 --> 00:58:22,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely.

1218
00:58:22,613 --> 00:58:24,573
Speaker 2: See that's when it doesn't stop. Starts when you're five,

1219
00:58:24,613 --> 00:58:25,293
Speaker 2: but it doesn't.

1220
00:58:25,093 --> 00:58:28,253
Speaker 3: Stop exactly right. Great discussion, Thank you very much everyone

1221
00:58:28,253 --> 00:58:30,413
Speaker 3: who texts and called on that one. Coming up after

1222
00:58:30,413 --> 00:58:33,013
Speaker 3: the headlines fascinating story of a Christich couple they found

1223
00:58:33,013 --> 00:58:35,533
Speaker 3: two hundred thousand bucks. They are now fighting through the

1224
00:58:35,533 --> 00:58:37,573
Speaker 3: courts to keep the money. The police say it's drug

1225
00:58:37,613 --> 00:58:39,533
Speaker 3: money and it should be theirs. The couple says they

1226
00:58:39,533 --> 00:58:42,053
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with the drug money apart from

1227
00:58:42,053 --> 00:58:43,813
Speaker 3: finding it, and it should be theirs. But the question

1228
00:58:43,893 --> 00:58:46,893
Speaker 3: we've got for you is have you found anything valuable

1229
00:58:47,133 --> 00:58:50,013
Speaker 3: or unusual in a house you purchased? Oh eight one

1230
00:58:50,053 --> 00:58:52,013
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Nine

1231
00:58:52,133 --> 00:58:55,253
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text? Headlines with railing coming.

1232
00:58:55,133 --> 00:59:00,653
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1235
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1236
00:59:13,333 --> 00:59:17,733
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1237
00:59:17,773 --> 00:59:21,293
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1238
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1239
00:59:25,453 --> 00:59:28,173
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1240
00:59:28,213 --> 00:59:31,293
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1241
00:59:31,333 --> 00:59:33,813
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1242
00:59:34,933 --> 00:59:37,733
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1250
01:00:03,693 --> 01:00:08,213
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1252
01:00:10,693 --> 01:00:12,573
Speaker 11: Matt Eath and Tyner Adams.

1253
01:00:12,093 --> 01:00:14,933
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railean. So this is a fascinating story.

1254
01:00:14,933 --> 01:00:17,573
Speaker 3: It's a christ Chuche couple. They found two hundred thousand

1255
01:00:17,653 --> 01:00:19,973
Speaker 3: bucks in the ceiling of a home. They bought the

1256
01:00:20,173 --> 01:00:22,253
Speaker 3: fighting through the courts to keep that money. So they

1257
01:00:22,253 --> 01:00:24,933
Speaker 3: found it and sealed stacks hidden in the insulation. They

1258
01:00:24,973 --> 01:00:27,333
Speaker 3: reported the cash to the police, who then came back

1259
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:29,493
Speaker 3: and said the money should be forfeited because it was

1260
01:00:29,573 --> 01:00:33,293
Speaker 3: the proceeds of crime, probably probably from drug dealing. They

1261
01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:37,973
Speaker 3: didn't really know. So the High Courts hearing is underway

1262
01:00:38,053 --> 01:00:40,573
Speaker 3: as we speak, and the couple's lawyer, he said this

1263
01:00:40,573 --> 01:00:42,813
Speaker 3: this morning. He's arguing that they should keep the money

1264
01:00:42,813 --> 01:00:45,573
Speaker 3: because they had no parts in the criminal activity and

1265
01:00:45,613 --> 01:00:49,253
Speaker 3: withholding the cash would discourage other people reporting similar fines

1266
01:00:49,293 --> 01:00:49,773
Speaker 3: in the future.

1267
01:00:50,093 --> 01:00:53,493
Speaker 2: Well, when I hear the story, I immediately think without justification,

1268
01:00:54,173 --> 01:00:56,813
Speaker 2: was it only two hundred thousand that they found? Yeah,

1269
01:00:56,853 --> 01:01:00,253
Speaker 2: where's the res and there would be a motivation now

1270
01:01:00,333 --> 01:01:02,933
Speaker 2: to report. I mean, if you're going to be dishonest,

1271
01:01:02,973 --> 01:01:04,893
Speaker 2: but not report to the police all the money you find,

1272
01:01:05,573 --> 01:01:07,253
Speaker 2: because if the police are going to say that's ours

1273
01:01:07,493 --> 01:01:11,213
Speaker 2: because it's the you know, it's probably ill gotten. They

1274
01:01:11,213 --> 01:01:13,053
Speaker 2: haven't proved that it's ill gotten. No, I mean they're

1275
01:01:13,053 --> 01:01:16,053
Speaker 2: just assuming because you find a two hundred thousand who.

1276
01:01:16,013 --> 01:01:19,293
Speaker 3: Knows, maybe someone scrowling it away. Honestly, yep, could have

1277
01:01:19,293 --> 01:01:20,213
Speaker 3: been their life savings.

1278
01:01:20,253 --> 01:01:23,693
Speaker 2: It does seem massively unlikely. But my thing on this

1279
01:01:23,773 --> 01:01:25,773
Speaker 2: is why do the police and the crown have any

1280
01:01:25,773 --> 01:01:28,933
Speaker 2: more right to it than this couple? Because, as I

1281
01:01:28,973 --> 01:01:32,373
Speaker 2: said to you before, Tyler, the couple have done nothing wrong.

1282
01:01:32,613 --> 01:01:35,213
Speaker 2: They've just found some money in their house. They didn't

1283
01:01:35,893 --> 01:01:37,733
Speaker 2: they weren't part of the drug dealing and they also

1284
01:01:37,773 --> 01:01:40,853
Speaker 2: weren't part of drug enforcement. So if anything, the crown

1285
01:01:41,053 --> 01:01:44,933
Speaker 2: have failed by this money existing because they've allowed within

1286
01:01:45,053 --> 01:01:47,613
Speaker 2: society for a drug dealer to make two hundred thousand

1287
01:01:47,613 --> 01:01:48,653
Speaker 2: dollars and hide it in a house.

1288
01:01:48,693 --> 01:01:50,573
Speaker 3: It's an interesting point.

1289
01:01:50,813 --> 01:01:51,773
Speaker 2: So why does it go to the crown?

1290
01:01:51,853 --> 01:01:54,053
Speaker 3: Yep, no blame on the couple, but a blame to

1291
01:01:54,093 --> 01:01:54,493
Speaker 3: the police.

1292
01:01:54,853 --> 01:01:58,173
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, would this just stop you? You know,

1293
01:01:58,253 --> 01:02:02,653
Speaker 2: does this encourage people not to bring it into the police?

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01:02:02,853 --> 01:02:06,333
Speaker 2: I think in most countries, right, I know in Miror.

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01:02:06,373 --> 01:02:09,613
Speaker 2: I believe in America actually that you know you do

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Speaker 2: keep some of it?

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01:02:11,253 --> 01:02:14,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to get a reward for doing the

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01:02:14,373 --> 01:02:17,693
Speaker 3: right thing. This is my thoughts obviously, but I think

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01:02:17,693 --> 01:02:19,693
Speaker 3: there's an argument to be made for find as keepers

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01:02:19,773 --> 01:02:21,853
Speaker 3: that if you find it you've had nothing to do

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01:02:21,893 --> 01:02:25,733
Speaker 3: with any ill gotten gains, then you should get to keep.

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01:02:25,573 --> 01:02:27,973
Speaker 2: It because it might be evidence for the police as

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01:02:27,973 --> 01:02:31,173
Speaker 2: well and an investigation. It might crack open a lead. Right,

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01:02:31,293 --> 01:02:35,293
Speaker 2: So you want you want people to be to be

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01:02:35,333 --> 01:02:37,653
Speaker 2: coming forward with this kind of stuff, don't you. Yeah?

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01:02:37,693 --> 01:02:38,133
Speaker 3: Exactly.

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01:02:38,453 --> 01:02:40,053
Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty if you say you're just going

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01:02:40,053 --> 01:02:41,893
Speaker 2: to take it all, then people are definitely going to

1309
01:02:41,933 --> 01:02:44,053
Speaker 2: think twice. I mean, I still think you should bring

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01:02:44,093 --> 01:02:46,493
Speaker 2: it in. I mean I would just because I figured

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01:02:46,493 --> 01:02:48,733
Speaker 2: that if two hundred thousand dollars goes missing in christ

1312
01:02:48,773 --> 01:02:52,093
Speaker 2: Church and it's cash and it's more likely criminals involved,

1313
01:02:52,573 --> 01:02:55,213
Speaker 2: then they want to come back and get it.

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01:02:55,293 --> 01:02:57,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need the police on your side, just a

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01:02:57,053 --> 01:03:00,733
Speaker 3: case they come and knock on your door and say, there's.

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01:03:00,493 --> 01:03:02,613
Speaker 2: Not too many people that can lose two hundred thousand

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01:03:02,613 --> 01:03:08,213
Speaker 2: dollars without them getting in trouble or knowing about it, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Would there be a monetary value, Let's say, I mean

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01:03:10,253 --> 01:03:11,973
Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars a lot of money and there's

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01:03:11,973 --> 01:03:14,253
Speaker 3: that risk associated there with the drug dealers coming back

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01:03:14,253 --> 01:03:16,933
Speaker 3: and wanting there two hundred k. But say you found

1322
01:03:16,973 --> 01:03:19,093
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars on the street, you just walk in,

1323
01:03:19,373 --> 01:03:22,973
Speaker 3: walk into work, you find a hundred bucks, You take it,

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01:03:23,053 --> 01:03:26,693
Speaker 3: you pocket it. Would you go and walk down to

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01:03:26,733 --> 01:03:28,293
Speaker 3: the police station and say, hey, I found a hundred

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01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:30,413
Speaker 3: bucks yere just in case anyone comes through looking for

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01:03:30,453 --> 01:03:34,893
Speaker 3: the hundred dollars, or would you keep it? I'll go first, Yeah,

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01:03:35,093 --> 01:03:36,653
Speaker 3: for one hundred bucks, I'd hand it to the police.

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01:03:36,693 --> 01:03:37,573
Speaker 3: Twenty bucks I'll keep.

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01:03:37,853 --> 01:03:38,733
Speaker 2: Is it at a wallet?

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01:03:39,253 --> 01:03:41,693
Speaker 3: No? No wallet, just cash flying around.

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01:03:41,613 --> 01:03:46,693
Speaker 2: Right, because in you know, traditionally the cash in the

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01:03:46,733 --> 01:03:48,973
Speaker 2: wallet was the price for returning it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's the ru right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I mean they they acted responsibly, this couple, right,

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01:03:56,813 --> 01:04:01,173
Speaker 2: and there's no question that they're definitely not involved with

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01:04:01,293 --> 01:04:02,373
Speaker 2: the illegal activity.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:04:03,613 --> 01:04:07,213
Speaker 2: So isn't the public interests be served by you know,

1340
01:04:07,893 --> 01:04:11,653
Speaker 2: rewarding them for cooperating with the cops, because kind of

1341
01:04:11,693 --> 01:04:13,693
Speaker 2: you're punishing their honesty because if.

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01:04:13,653 --> 01:04:16,453
Speaker 3: They said from the outset, thank you for giving us

1343
01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:18,093
Speaker 3: the heads up we think this is drug money, it

1344
01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:21,333
Speaker 3: may aid our investigation. But because you did the right thing.

1345
01:04:21,373 --> 01:04:24,533
Speaker 3: Here's fifty k done and dusted, it's all over. I mean,

1346
01:04:24,613 --> 01:04:26,853
Speaker 3: is that an okay situation? You reckon? They should have

1347
01:04:26,893 --> 01:04:29,413
Speaker 3: the whole lot, They bought the house and everything in it.

1348
01:04:29,453 --> 01:04:32,213
Speaker 3: They found some money in the house at whole two

1349
01:04:32,253 --> 01:04:32,693
Speaker 3: hundred k.

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Speaker 2: Unless you think that the money is just evil because

1351
01:04:37,733 --> 01:04:42,813
Speaker 2: it's elgotten, that the criminal proceeds just shouldn't shouldn't be

1352
01:04:42,893 --> 01:04:46,053
Speaker 2: with someone just because it's been taken off someone. It's

1353
01:04:46,653 --> 01:04:49,853
Speaker 2: some horrific gang situation that the money's just too dirty

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01:04:49,853 --> 01:04:52,333
Speaker 2: for anyone to own morally. Yeah, I mean that's the

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01:04:52,333 --> 01:04:54,493
Speaker 2: only pushback I can really see on it.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting one.

1357
01:04:55,573 --> 01:04:57,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what are the cops doing with it?

1358
01:04:58,013 --> 01:05:00,253
Speaker 3: I think it goes to the Proceeds of Crime fund,

1359
01:05:00,493 --> 01:05:03,573
Speaker 3: which is contestable, and that gets used to try and

1360
01:05:03,653 --> 01:05:06,893
Speaker 3: stop more crime. Okay, I mean it's an okay use

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01:05:06,933 --> 01:05:07,173
Speaker 3: of it.

1362
01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:09,253
Speaker 2: But it doesn't go to the with Christmas party or

1363
01:05:09,293 --> 01:05:11,133
Speaker 2: the office ski trip.

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Speaker 3: Might go to the police bar. Who knows, Oh, one

1365
01:05:13,613 --> 01:05:15,573
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of call?

1366
01:05:15,773 --> 01:05:18,373
Speaker 3: What would you do if you found two hundred thousand

1367
01:05:18,373 --> 01:05:20,093
Speaker 3: dollars in a home you're bought and also can you

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01:05:20,133 --> 01:05:22,533
Speaker 3: hear from you if you've found something valuable in a

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01:05:22,533 --> 01:05:25,133
Speaker 3: home that you purchased really Ken Never Chat nineteen ninet

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Speaker 3: two is the text. It is twenty to three.

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Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Tyner Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons with Skoda.

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01:05:34,173 --> 01:05:36,733
Speaker 5: Can you crank the Scoda code Youth Talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be Afternoon g seventeen to three. We're talking about

1375
01:05:39,053 --> 01:05:41,373
Speaker 3: this christ Church couple. They found two hundred thousand dollars

1376
01:05:41,413 --> 01:05:43,533
Speaker 3: in their home and they're fighting through the courts to

1377
01:05:43,613 --> 01:05:45,653
Speaker 3: keep it. Police say it's drug money and it should

1378
01:05:45,653 --> 01:05:47,573
Speaker 3: be the crowns oh eight one hundred and eighty ten

1379
01:05:47,613 --> 01:05:48,693
Speaker 3: eighty is the numbered call.

1380
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Speaker 2: How can the police know approve that it is money

1381
01:05:51,493 --> 01:05:55,373
Speaker 2: from a crime? That's part of the case, isn't it is?

1382
01:05:55,773 --> 01:05:58,053
Speaker 2: Say to the hearing, you don't know it's the product

1383
01:05:58,093 --> 01:06:00,813
Speaker 2: of crime. If you do, then make an arrest.

1384
01:06:00,973 --> 01:06:06,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, big distinction there. Get a Chris, Hey, I'm on.

1385
01:06:05,933 --> 01:06:09,653
Speaker 6: The team of it should be theirs. If the police

1386
01:06:09,693 --> 01:06:11,733
Speaker 6: didn't find it in a raid of a house that

1387
01:06:11,813 --> 01:06:16,253
Speaker 6: they suspect drug dealing, like yeah, if they if they

1388
01:06:16,333 --> 01:06:18,893
Speaker 6: find it in a ry cool proceeds at crime. But

1389
01:06:18,933 --> 01:06:21,333
Speaker 6: if there's a couple of nice fellows that go along

1390
01:06:21,373 --> 01:06:25,333
Speaker 6: and say, hey, we found this addict, I think it's

1391
01:06:25,373 --> 01:06:28,293
Speaker 6: like a month or whatever it is that if you

1392
01:06:28,333 --> 01:06:30,333
Speaker 6: give money to the cops then they can't find a

1393
01:06:30,373 --> 01:06:33,613
Speaker 6: reason or a person that owns it, then it goes

1394
01:06:33,653 --> 01:06:34,013
Speaker 6: to you.

1395
01:06:35,973 --> 01:06:38,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I always thought as well. But that's

1396
01:06:38,613 --> 01:06:40,253
Speaker 2: not what's happening here. The police are taking it all

1397
01:06:40,293 --> 01:06:42,213
Speaker 2: the way, aren't they, and saying it's.

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01:06:42,133 --> 01:06:48,373
Speaker 6: All yeah, ye. This goes into the if I found

1399
01:06:48,413 --> 01:06:50,293
Speaker 6: two hundred grand in my addict, do you think I'm

1400
01:06:50,293 --> 01:06:52,613
Speaker 6: going to tell the cops about it? No, I'm just

1401
01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:55,253
Speaker 6: going to sell my house, move it for suburbs away

1402
01:06:55,733 --> 01:06:57,853
Speaker 6: and look the dream for a year or two.

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01:06:58,893 --> 01:07:00,893
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a good idea. I think it'd

1404
01:07:00,893 --> 01:07:02,733
Speaker 2: be a good idea to move out of the house. Yeah,

1405
01:07:02,853 --> 01:07:04,293
Speaker 2: I think that's a key part of it. So I

1406
01:07:04,413 --> 01:07:06,173
Speaker 2: may come back looking for that because someone's going to

1407
01:07:06,173 --> 01:07:10,173
Speaker 2: be looking for that two hundred grand.

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01:07:11,573 --> 01:07:14,013
Speaker 6: In hindsight, that's maybe what this should have, should have,

1409
01:07:14,053 --> 01:07:14,853
Speaker 6: could have would have done.

1410
01:07:15,973 --> 01:07:19,453
Speaker 2: Now, the police are arguing that the couple themselves believe

1411
01:07:19,493 --> 01:07:22,293
Speaker 2: the money was linked to crime, But does that matter.

1412
01:07:22,813 --> 01:07:25,413
Speaker 2: You know they believe it. No one knows for sure.

1413
01:07:25,493 --> 01:07:27,893
Speaker 2: The High Court judge noted some countries return a portion

1414
01:07:28,013 --> 01:07:31,213
Speaker 2: of found drug money. So what do you reckon about

1415
01:07:31,453 --> 01:07:34,773
Speaker 2: a portion? If you knew, Chris, that that you found

1416
01:07:34,773 --> 01:07:36,773
Speaker 2: the two hundred, that that the police are going to

1417
01:07:36,813 --> 01:07:39,213
Speaker 2: go investigate it, but you'll get I don't know twenty

1418
01:07:39,213 --> 01:07:42,613
Speaker 2: five would would that Would that encourage you to take

1419
01:07:42,653 --> 01:07:45,053
Speaker 2: it into the police rather than selling the house and

1420
01:07:45,053 --> 01:07:45,733
Speaker 2: taking the money.

1421
01:07:45,893 --> 01:07:49,653
Speaker 6: Yes, but it would say for example, if I knew

1422
01:07:49,933 --> 01:07:52,093
Speaker 6: I bought a house and I'm living there, and then

1423
01:07:52,133 --> 01:07:53,893
Speaker 6: my nates told me it used to be a tiny

1424
01:07:54,013 --> 01:07:58,573
Speaker 6: house or whatever, and I found the money, I would

1425
01:07:59,333 --> 01:08:01,893
Speaker 6: then say to them, all right, this was probably a

1426
01:08:01,893 --> 01:08:05,533
Speaker 6: bit of a catch if there was guaranteed reward for me,

1427
01:08:06,173 --> 01:08:08,653
Speaker 6: or I might be snacking and just give half of it,

1428
01:08:08,773 --> 01:08:11,413
Speaker 6: not that you know police are listening. You know, I'm saying,

1429
01:08:11,533 --> 01:08:12,333
Speaker 6: just test the waters.

1430
01:08:12,493 --> 01:08:14,053
Speaker 3: Just give them fifty k and see what they do

1431
01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:14,413
Speaker 3: with it.

1432
01:08:14,893 --> 01:08:18,693
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is nowadays, Chris, the interesting thing is

1433
01:08:18,733 --> 01:08:21,653
Speaker 2: if you tried to spend two hundred thousand in cash,

1434
01:08:21,813 --> 01:08:23,773
Speaker 2: so it didn't you leave any record as soon as

1435
01:08:23,773 --> 01:08:25,333
Speaker 2: you put it in your bank, then obviously it leads

1436
01:08:25,412 --> 01:08:27,812
Speaker 2: leads a record someone that's just going around and throwing

1437
01:08:27,893 --> 01:08:31,812
Speaker 2: hundi's around. I think you'd start to grab people's attention

1438
01:08:31,973 --> 01:08:34,772
Speaker 2: right because no one's spending cash anymore. I think the

1439
01:08:34,772 --> 01:08:36,692
Speaker 2: police would be like, you'd probably come up on the

1440
01:08:36,692 --> 01:08:40,772
Speaker 2: police's radar as someone that's, you know, up to something dodgy.

1441
01:08:41,853 --> 01:08:43,612
Speaker 6: You know, that's why you do what they call the

1442
01:08:43,692 --> 01:08:46,812
Speaker 6: pokeing machine cleaning. So you put one hundred bucks in

1443
01:08:47,293 --> 01:08:49,053
Speaker 6: and then you tap wind and you take it out,

1444
01:08:49,093 --> 01:08:50,452
Speaker 6: and you keep the receipts for that win.

1445
01:08:52,053 --> 01:08:57,452
Speaker 3: You've thought this through, Chris, the whole nation? The heck.

1446
01:08:58,893 --> 01:09:03,013
Speaker 2: Does it? Does it still work to bit both ways

1447
01:09:02,812 --> 01:09:07,933
Speaker 2: on something like so you bet one hundred thousand one

1448
01:09:07,933 --> 01:09:09,133
Speaker 2: way andred thousand the other way.

1449
01:09:09,133 --> 01:09:13,012
Speaker 6: If you see what I mean, there's another miracle.

1450
01:09:16,652 --> 01:09:17,933
Speaker 4: We're really helping.

1451
01:09:17,652 --> 01:09:18,412
Speaker 6: People out there.

1452
01:09:19,333 --> 01:09:23,052
Speaker 3: Sounds like it. Good tips there, mate, I eight hundred

1453
01:09:23,133 --> 01:09:24,893
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number. Call you.

1454
01:09:24,973 --> 01:09:27,772
Speaker 2: It would be really interesting to see how long you could,

1455
01:09:27,812 --> 01:09:31,412
Speaker 2: just as an experience, the social experience experiment, give someone

1456
01:09:31,492 --> 01:09:34,253
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars and hundreds and just see how long

1457
01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:37,612
Speaker 2: they could go around spending paying for everything at a hundreds.

1458
01:09:37,652 --> 01:09:41,013
Speaker 3: Before you get flagged, before you get noticed. Yeah, be

1459
01:09:41,133 --> 01:09:43,093
Speaker 3: bloody heart. If you've ever tried to buy something with

1460
01:09:43,093 --> 01:09:44,412
Speaker 3: a hundred bucks and they say, I don't know, I

1461
01:09:44,452 --> 01:09:46,612
Speaker 3: don't have change for that, go take it ouse where

1462
01:09:46,612 --> 01:09:48,812
Speaker 3: you've got anything smaller? No, found it in my attic.

1463
01:09:49,412 --> 01:09:53,213
Speaker 3: I'veis oh, one hundred eighty ten eighties the numbered call?

1464
01:09:53,293 --> 01:09:55,812
Speaker 3: Would you keep it? Peter?

1465
01:09:56,253 --> 01:09:58,492
Speaker 4: How are you very good?

1466
01:09:58,652 --> 01:09:58,892
Speaker 14: Well?

1467
01:09:59,173 --> 01:10:02,412
Speaker 15: How do they know? It's not the old days where

1468
01:10:02,452 --> 01:10:07,772
Speaker 15: they had death duties or people going into hospital care

1469
01:10:08,013 --> 01:10:12,372
Speaker 15: or you know, means tested from winds or whatever it

1470
01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:16,213
Speaker 15: is you don't know, or hiding it from members of

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01:10:16,213 --> 01:10:19,492
Speaker 15: the family or Yeah.

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01:10:18,933 --> 01:10:20,973
Speaker 2: Because we don't really know what the cash looked like,

1473
01:10:21,333 --> 01:10:23,132
Speaker 2: do we. If it was it was a bit older,

1474
01:10:23,253 --> 01:10:26,772
Speaker 2: it was it was screwed up, you know, like it

1475
01:10:26,812 --> 01:10:29,293
Speaker 2: could be someone just mowing lawns while they're on the

1476
01:10:29,372 --> 01:10:29,772
Speaker 2: doll for.

1477
01:10:31,492 --> 01:10:32,812
Speaker 3: I don't know, for years.

1478
01:10:33,933 --> 01:10:36,412
Speaker 15: Oh, you don't know if if it was old enough

1479
01:10:36,532 --> 01:10:39,212
Speaker 15: that the notes would be collector's items, wouldn't they.

1480
01:10:39,492 --> 01:10:42,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're all we're all imagining it's beautiful houndis

1481
01:10:42,973 --> 01:10:46,093
Speaker 2: fresh Hondis in a briefcase or something. But it could

1482
01:10:46,133 --> 01:10:48,812
Speaker 2: just be like a stinky old pile of screwed up

1483
01:10:49,093 --> 01:10:50,492
Speaker 2: tens from ages ago.

1484
01:10:51,452 --> 01:10:53,772
Speaker 15: You don't know when the house was built or anything.

1485
01:10:53,772 --> 01:10:56,013
Speaker 15: You haven't heard anything. So so it would just be

1486
01:10:56,053 --> 01:10:58,852
Speaker 15: a legal argument because if you buy something and you

1487
01:10:58,973 --> 01:11:02,333
Speaker 15: found a gold ring or something like that in the house,

1488
01:11:02,372 --> 01:11:06,173
Speaker 15: that would be yours. And if you if a tenant leaves,

1489
01:11:06,213 --> 01:11:08,812
Speaker 15: I think they had so many months, don't they claim

1490
01:11:09,652 --> 01:11:11,333
Speaker 15: what they left behind or something.

1491
01:11:11,893 --> 01:11:15,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you buy on a deceased state, then

1492
01:11:16,412 --> 01:11:18,333
Speaker 2: often it's just everything in the house, isn't it.

1493
01:11:19,013 --> 01:11:19,452
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1494
01:11:19,532 --> 01:11:22,492
Speaker 2: You know a friend of mine he bought a house

1495
01:11:23,213 --> 01:11:26,333
Speaker 2: and ended up finding hundreds of thousands of dollars worth

1496
01:11:26,412 --> 01:11:31,293
Speaker 2: gold in it, holy and and ice cream containers.

1497
01:11:32,053 --> 01:11:34,772
Speaker 3: That's a great vine in the garage. Yeah, that is

1498
01:11:34,853 --> 01:11:37,612
Speaker 3: Jackpot handed them to the police.

1499
01:11:37,372 --> 01:11:40,893
Speaker 2: He was It got incredibly complicated because the body was

1500
01:11:40,933 --> 01:11:43,372
Speaker 2: found in the backyard as well, and so the police

1501
01:11:43,412 --> 01:11:46,253
Speaker 2: were massively involved in the whole situation. But because it

1502
01:11:46,293 --> 01:11:49,933
Speaker 2: was a diseased thing, my understanding that he got to

1503
01:11:50,013 --> 01:11:52,412
Speaker 2: keep the value of the gold. But it was a

1504
01:11:52,492 --> 01:11:55,013
Speaker 2: very complicated case. It made the news. But you know,

1505
01:11:55,333 --> 01:11:58,293
Speaker 2: one point he was like, this is amazing because we've

1506
01:11:58,612 --> 01:12:00,333
Speaker 2: bought this house and now we've found all this money

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01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:01,972
Speaker 2: and it so it's a lot easier paying the mortgage

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01:12:01,973 --> 01:12:04,572
Speaker 2: because it' quite a lot of value in gold. Next thing,

1509
01:12:04,572 --> 01:12:07,852
Speaker 2: the body turns up God, and then the house is

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01:12:07,853 --> 01:12:13,012
Speaker 2: basically CSI scene with heaps of cops sticking up the backyard.

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01:12:13,053 --> 01:12:15,253
Speaker 3: It really taints that fine, doesn't it. Apeter, thank you

1512
01:12:15,333 --> 01:12:17,492
Speaker 3: very much for giving us some bards back. Very shortly,

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01:12:17,532 --> 01:12:20,933
Speaker 3: it is ten to three, the issues.

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01:12:20,572 --> 01:12:23,052
Speaker 5: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

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01:12:23,293 --> 01:12:27,213
Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

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01:12:27,253 --> 01:12:28,772
Speaker 3: News Talks HEB seven to three.

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01:12:29,412 --> 01:12:32,092
Speaker 5: Are you ready to crack the scoder code?

1518
01:12:33,213 --> 01:12:34,772
Speaker 3: Yes, here we go. Do you need a bit of

1519
01:12:34,853 --> 01:12:38,173
Speaker 3: help cranking today's Scoda code? We are here to help

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01:12:38,293 --> 01:12:39,373
Speaker 3: with a clue.

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01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:43,532
Speaker 2: All right, Here is the clue. Runners obsess over it,

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01:12:44,372 --> 01:12:49,093
Speaker 2: and meetings often lack it. Runners obsess over it and

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01:12:49,213 --> 01:12:50,892
Speaker 2: meetings often lack it.

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01:12:51,053 --> 01:12:53,852
Speaker 3: That is cryptic. Make sure you are in to win

1525
01:12:54,013 --> 01:12:56,772
Speaker 3: a trip for two to the Tour de France. That's

1526
01:12:56,812 --> 01:12:59,452
Speaker 3: going to be amazing. Just go to Skoda dot co

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01:12:59,732 --> 01:13:03,652
Speaker 3: dot nz. That's Scoda dot co dot nz. Get amongst

1528
01:13:03,692 --> 01:13:07,452
Speaker 3: it and we'll have another hint for you tomorrow and Thursday.

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01:13:07,853 --> 01:13:09,732
Speaker 3: Right to our discussion, we.

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01:13:09,853 --> 01:13:11,612
Speaker 2: Have to say tour de France.

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01:13:12,173 --> 01:13:14,333
Speaker 3: Well, I kind of I change it up. So I

1532
01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:17,213
Speaker 3: started off saying tour to France, and then I think

1533
01:13:17,293 --> 01:13:21,412
Speaker 3: tour de France, because is it kind of offensive if

1534
01:13:21,452 --> 01:13:23,412
Speaker 3: I try and put on a French accent for the

1535
01:13:23,532 --> 01:13:24,253
Speaker 3: France part.

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01:13:25,452 --> 01:13:26,972
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think I think you would

1537
01:13:27,013 --> 01:13:33,372
Speaker 2: say tour de France France, so no role in the France.

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01:13:33,692 --> 01:13:34,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful.

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01:13:34,893 --> 01:13:37,452
Speaker 2: That's how I'd say it to France. But but someone

1540
01:13:37,492 --> 01:13:40,572
Speaker 2: that's done more French than me might might be able to,

1541
01:13:41,452 --> 01:13:44,253
Speaker 2: you know, come in with a pronunciation guide there. I

1542
01:13:44,333 --> 01:13:46,173
Speaker 2: just think you sound like a bit of an idiot

1543
01:13:46,173 --> 01:13:48,812
Speaker 2: when you say tour de France, France.

1544
01:13:49,492 --> 01:13:50,372
Speaker 3: That's very key with you.

1545
01:13:52,053 --> 01:13:54,333
Speaker 2: But then again, people know exactly what you're talking about.

1546
01:13:54,412 --> 01:13:56,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, tour de France.

1547
01:13:56,412 --> 01:14:01,612
Speaker 2: Love to go on the tour de France. Yeah, I

1548
01:14:01,652 --> 01:14:03,612
Speaker 2: see what you're doing that because like, if you attempt

1549
01:14:03,652 --> 01:14:07,333
Speaker 2: a pronunciation and French especially, you just sound like you're

1550
01:14:07,333 --> 01:14:10,293
Speaker 2: trying to be more sophisticated than you are.

1551
01:14:10,412 --> 01:14:12,492
Speaker 3: You can go horribly wrong, which has happened to me

1552
01:14:12,532 --> 01:14:14,732
Speaker 3: in the past. Right beg to our discussion about this

1553
01:14:15,053 --> 01:14:17,972
Speaker 3: cash the christ which couple have found two hundred thousand bucks?

1554
01:14:18,013 --> 01:14:19,812
Speaker 3: Would you give it back or would you tell the cops?

1555
01:14:20,093 --> 01:14:22,612
Speaker 2: Is this true? Last year when talking about this two

1556
01:14:22,692 --> 01:14:25,333
Speaker 2: hundred thousand Cape couple, they said an article the cereals

1557
01:14:25,333 --> 01:14:28,612
Speaker 2: had been accounted for at an ATM or bank.

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01:14:28,933 --> 01:14:31,293
Speaker 3: That's not information in the story. That would be very

1559
01:14:31,333 --> 01:14:32,733
Speaker 3: interesting if that's the case.

1560
01:14:33,612 --> 01:14:35,412
Speaker 2: Because I mean, how do you get two hundred thousand

1561
01:14:35,412 --> 01:14:36,333
Speaker 2: dollars out of an ATM?

1562
01:14:37,452 --> 01:14:39,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's a max of a thousand, isn't it,

1563
01:14:39,973 --> 01:14:42,532
Speaker 3: So you've got to do it two hundred times two

1564
01:14:42,572 --> 01:14:45,732
Speaker 3: hundred different aightms. That would get flagg pretty quick.

1565
01:14:46,772 --> 01:14:50,452
Speaker 2: I guess maybe if you I guess if you're selling

1566
01:14:50,572 --> 01:14:53,973
Speaker 2: I mean, this is massive speculation, I'll research it. But

1567
01:14:54,013 --> 01:14:57,372
Speaker 2: if you're selling drugs, then people are probably getting the

1568
01:14:57,372 --> 01:15:00,652
Speaker 2: money out of an ATM, and say if it's look,

1569
01:15:00,812 --> 01:15:02,812
Speaker 2: I know absolutely nothing. I don't know what drugs they

1570
01:15:02,812 --> 01:15:04,812
Speaker 2: were selling at all, but say if it was something

1571
01:15:04,853 --> 01:15:07,133
Speaker 2: like cocaine, right then people are going to be having

1572
01:15:07,173 --> 01:15:10,812
Speaker 2: to get out, you know, hundreds of dollars to pay

1573
01:15:10,853 --> 01:15:12,852
Speaker 2: for them. So every time that money comes out, you'd

1574
01:15:12,893 --> 01:15:15,253
Speaker 2: think there would be an ATM record for it.

1575
01:15:15,372 --> 01:15:17,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. Yeah, you

1576
01:15:17,572 --> 01:15:19,452
Speaker 3: can't swipe your credit card if you want conain I

1577
01:15:19,532 --> 01:15:20,453
Speaker 3: have something total.

1578
01:15:20,293 --> 01:15:23,293
Speaker 2: And so can they match it that up with, you know,

1579
01:15:23,372 --> 01:15:25,333
Speaker 2: like serial numbers that they marked. I wonder.

1580
01:15:25,492 --> 01:15:27,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, you know, are they recorded?

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01:15:28,293 --> 01:15:30,492
Speaker 3: Makes sense? But nineteen nine two, if you work in banking,

1582
01:15:31,412 --> 01:15:33,572
Speaker 3: t Bowe, we've got about forty seconds, mate, what are

1583
01:15:33,572 --> 01:15:34,732
Speaker 3: you reckon about this? Would you keep it?

1584
01:15:36,532 --> 01:15:40,932
Speaker 4: Find us, keep us, find us, keep us if you've

1585
01:15:41,013 --> 01:15:43,852
Speaker 4: found it, you bought a house and you found it

1586
01:15:43,933 --> 01:15:46,532
Speaker 4: up in your and you're loft or your.

1587
01:15:48,333 --> 01:15:54,253
Speaker 16: Attic that short, because you've brought the house and that's

1588
01:15:54,333 --> 01:15:54,812
Speaker 16: about that.

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01:15:55,412 --> 01:15:58,532
Speaker 2: You wouldn't worry that it's ill gotten gain and someone

1590
01:15:58,612 --> 01:16:00,253
Speaker 2: might miss it and want to come back and get

1591
01:16:00,253 --> 01:16:00,932
Speaker 2: it back off him.

1592
01:16:03,772 --> 01:16:06,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, Tea Bone, Thank you very much, and

1593
01:16:06,933 --> 01:16:09,253
Speaker 3: thank you for all the texts coming through. Who is Well.

1594
01:16:09,893 --> 01:16:12,612
Speaker 3: Been a great discussion and it is going to be

1595
01:16:12,612 --> 01:16:15,532
Speaker 3: fascinating to see what happens to this couple, whether they

1596
01:16:15,532 --> 01:16:17,812
Speaker 3: get to keep the cash. I will note just quickly

1597
01:16:17,812 --> 01:16:20,293
Speaker 3: in the story the judge and the court hearings ongoing

1598
01:16:20,572 --> 01:16:22,692
Speaker 3: did say in a number of other countries when people

1599
01:16:22,692 --> 01:16:24,612
Speaker 3: had found drug money, a percentage of the cash could

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01:16:24,612 --> 01:16:26,933
Speaker 3: be returned to them. So whether we follow suit, and

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01:16:27,013 --> 01:16:27,652
Speaker 3: that's a big question.

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01:16:27,772 --> 01:16:29,572
Speaker 2: I just don't know where the crown gets it. You know,

1603
01:16:29,812 --> 01:16:31,732
Speaker 2: it was their job to stop the drug dealing in

1604
01:16:31,772 --> 01:16:33,692
Speaker 2: the first place. They've failed to do that. The couple

1605
01:16:33,772 --> 01:16:34,412
Speaker 2: found nothing wrong.

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01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:36,812
Speaker 3: A lot of logic there right, New Sport and we're

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01:16:36,853 --> 01:16:38,732
Speaker 3: a fast approaching Stay right here.

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01:16:40,572 --> 01:16:43,293
Speaker 5: Your home for instateful and entertaining talk.

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01:16:43,452 --> 01:16:47,013
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoder on

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01:16:47,213 --> 01:16:47,772
Speaker 1: News Talks.

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01:16:47,772 --> 01:16:50,972
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into

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01:16:51,133 --> 01:16:53,253
Speaker 3: the show. Great to have your company. As always, this

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01:16:53,333 --> 01:16:55,013
Speaker 3: is going to be a fascinating chat. So we want

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01:16:55,053 --> 01:16:58,572
Speaker 3: to talk about midlife crises. There's an article in the

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01:16:58,572 --> 01:17:02,412
Speaker 3: Herald right now. It is by psychologist and author Frank

1616
01:17:02,492 --> 01:17:06,212
Speaker 3: talia So his argument that midlife crises are wrongly treated

1617
01:17:06,253 --> 01:17:09,133
Speaker 3: as a joke when in reality they steam from profound

1618
01:17:09,253 --> 01:17:14,012
Speaker 3: psychological challenges he says, tied to aging, mortality, loss of purpose,

1619
01:17:14,492 --> 01:17:18,053
Speaker 3: and a youth obsessed culture. I mean midlife crisis. I

1620
01:17:18,053 --> 01:17:22,012
Speaker 3: didn't know this. The term was coined by Canadian psycho

1621
01:17:22,293 --> 01:17:26,532
Speaker 3: analyst Elliott Jaques in nineteen sixties. Before then, nobody was

1622
01:17:26,572 --> 01:17:30,452
Speaker 3: talking about midlife crises. But apparently it's also been afflicted

1623
01:17:30,492 --> 01:17:34,253
Speaker 3: by the likes of Odysseus, apparently he had a midlife crisis, Dante,

1624
01:17:34,412 --> 01:17:37,532
Speaker 3: and also Carl Young. I mean, I could see well

1625
01:17:37,572 --> 01:17:40,892
Speaker 3: as Odysseus taking off and as we ship to Troy.

1626
01:17:41,053 --> 01:17:45,133
Speaker 3: Was that a midlife crisis? Isn't it?

1627
01:17:45,612 --> 01:17:45,692
Speaker 17: Just?

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01:17:46,692 --> 01:17:50,093
Speaker 2: I questioned what they existed? I think, when are you're

1629
01:17:50,093 --> 01:17:53,172
Speaker 2: not in crisis in your life? There's a midlife crisis?

1630
01:17:53,173 --> 01:17:55,852
Speaker 2: Don't people just go from you know, people at different

1631
01:17:55,853 --> 01:17:57,253
Speaker 2: times have different crisises.

1632
01:17:57,452 --> 01:17:57,652
Speaker 4: Yep.

1633
01:17:57,732 --> 01:18:00,692
Speaker 2: And there's all kinds of different types of crises. And

1634
01:18:00,692 --> 01:18:04,213
Speaker 2: then midlight crises is just, in my opinion, an envy

1635
01:18:04,293 --> 01:18:08,013
Speaker 2: ridden excuse to hassle men who finally enough money to

1636
01:18:08,013 --> 01:18:09,652
Speaker 2: buy the they liked when they were kids, but they

1637
01:18:09,652 --> 01:18:12,173
Speaker 2: didn't have enough money or that you know, or their

1638
01:18:12,213 --> 01:18:13,973
Speaker 2: kids were there, so it was ridiculous to buy that

1639
01:18:14,013 --> 01:18:16,052
Speaker 2: cool car. And then you go, he's having a midlife crisis.

1640
01:18:16,093 --> 01:18:17,652
Speaker 2: Maybe he just always wanted that car and now he's

1641
01:18:17,652 --> 01:18:19,692
Speaker 2: got the money to buy it. What's wrong with that?

1642
01:18:19,933 --> 01:18:21,852
Speaker 3: Yep? Again, a lot of logic in that that you've

1643
01:18:21,893 --> 01:18:24,013
Speaker 3: spent the last sixty years of your life doing the

1644
01:18:24,053 --> 01:18:26,772
Speaker 3: things that you need to that responsibility looking after your family.

1645
01:18:26,812 --> 01:18:29,852
Speaker 3: Finally you've found from some financial freedom and maybe some

1646
01:18:29,973 --> 01:18:32,173
Speaker 3: freedom from work, and you buy that do Caddy that

1647
01:18:32,213 --> 01:18:34,452
Speaker 3: you always want. But what do you get after all

1648
01:18:34,532 --> 01:18:38,652
Speaker 3: that effort and dedication. You get laughed at, say Joe,

1649
01:18:39,093 --> 01:18:41,532
Speaker 3: yeah that motorbike. You look like a numpty. It's a

1650
01:18:41,572 --> 01:18:42,452
Speaker 3: midlife crisis.

1651
01:18:43,013 --> 01:18:45,253
Speaker 2: It's just a way to beat up on successful men.

1652
01:18:45,572 --> 01:18:47,572
Speaker 2: I think that is. So you've got a situation where

1653
01:18:47,612 --> 01:18:50,652
Speaker 2: you go through life. It's going great with the kids

1654
01:18:50,692 --> 01:18:53,253
Speaker 2: and the wife, and it's everything you've worked really, really hard.

1655
01:18:53,692 --> 01:18:56,652
Speaker 2: Then the kids move out and then mum and dad

1656
01:18:56,692 --> 01:18:58,772
Speaker 2: look at each other and go, who are you? You know,

1657
01:18:58,853 --> 01:19:01,173
Speaker 2: we've just been in the trenches with the kids. And

1658
01:19:01,213 --> 01:19:03,412
Speaker 2: then they divorce and then the guy goes on, I'm

1659
01:19:03,412 --> 01:19:06,372
Speaker 2: not feeling that happy because of the divorce. I might

1660
01:19:06,452 --> 01:19:08,932
Speaker 2: get a car, a nice car, And then they get

1661
01:19:08,973 --> 01:19:11,652
Speaker 2: the car, and then they meet another person and then

1662
01:19:11,652 --> 01:19:15,932
Speaker 2: everyone goes midlife crisis, you loser, and maybe you've lost

1663
01:19:15,973 --> 01:19:18,213
Speaker 2: your hair at the same time. And then then people

1664
01:19:18,253 --> 01:19:21,372
Speaker 2: ran into that like you're just a bald man and

1665
01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:23,172
Speaker 2: a fancy car with a new girlfriend.

1666
01:19:23,213 --> 01:19:24,612
Speaker 3: It's super tough on those fellas.

1667
01:19:24,812 --> 01:19:27,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, our midlife crisis is real O e.

1668
01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:29,892
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty And have you have

1669
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:33,532
Speaker 2: you experienced one yourself? And or have you seen someone

1670
01:19:33,853 --> 01:19:38,293
Speaker 2: you know seeing one go through a midlife crisis? And

1671
01:19:38,333 --> 01:19:40,253
Speaker 2: how did that manifest? Just looking at where they say

1672
01:19:40,253 --> 01:19:43,372
Speaker 2: they are. This is the technical things to look out

1673
01:19:43,372 --> 01:19:48,292
Speaker 2: for for a midlife crisis. Persistent dissatisfaction despite external success.

1674
01:19:48,933 --> 01:19:50,812
Speaker 2: So does that mean you can't have a midlife crisis

1675
01:19:50,853 --> 01:19:52,173
Speaker 2: if you haven't been successful?

1676
01:19:53,372 --> 01:19:53,612
Speaker 3: Does?

1677
01:19:53,732 --> 01:19:53,932
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1678
01:19:54,692 --> 01:19:54,852
Speaker 11: Right?

1679
01:19:54,933 --> 01:20:00,052
Speaker 2: Okay, so success, heightened awareness of mortality, fear of aging, illness,

1680
01:20:00,093 --> 01:20:02,452
Speaker 2: or running out of time. And to be fair, midlife

1681
01:20:02,532 --> 01:20:04,892
Speaker 2: is considered anywhere between the age of forty and sixty five.

1682
01:20:04,933 --> 01:20:06,652
Speaker 2: So it's a big. It's a big.

1683
01:20:06,732 --> 01:20:07,652
Speaker 3: It's a back of your life.

1684
01:20:07,772 --> 01:20:11,892
Speaker 2: It's twenty five years loss of identity or purpose, especially

1685
01:20:11,893 --> 01:20:16,052
Speaker 2: after kids leave home or careers. Plateau ye, sudden urges

1686
01:20:16,133 --> 01:20:20,372
Speaker 2: for radical change, job, relationship, lifestyle without a clear pan plan.

1687
01:20:20,452 --> 01:20:25,452
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna happen anytime. Nostalgia and rumination, replaying

1688
01:20:25,492 --> 01:20:28,852
Speaker 2: past choices, what if, what if? Thinking that we all

1689
01:20:28,853 --> 01:20:32,412
Speaker 2: do this risk taking or impulsive behavior aimed at feeling

1690
01:20:32,452 --> 01:20:42,333
Speaker 2: alive again. Emotional volatility, irritability, anxiety, low mood or numbness, withdrawal, restlessness. Yep,

1691
01:20:42,812 --> 01:20:44,972
Speaker 2: it's just a we just describing the human condition here.

1692
01:20:45,213 --> 01:20:47,213
Speaker 2: I've been filling this most of my life, to be honest,

1693
01:20:47,572 --> 01:20:50,852
Speaker 2: pulling away from routines or relationships, comparison with younger people,

1694
01:20:50,893 --> 01:20:56,572
Speaker 2: and feeling invisible or obsolete. Physical pre preoccupation, health anxiety,

1695
01:20:56,612 --> 01:21:02,612
Speaker 2: body changes, aging appearance. Now. See, because when I decided

1696
01:21:02,612 --> 01:21:06,452
Speaker 2: to run a marathon last year, immediately all my friends

1697
01:21:06,532 --> 01:21:09,852
Speaker 2: just said midlife crisis. So once you're over forty you

1698
01:21:09,893 --> 01:21:12,492
Speaker 2: can't do anything without someone. You get a new car,

1699
01:21:12,612 --> 01:21:16,572
Speaker 2: mid life crisis, you decided to do something healthy. Mid

1700
01:21:16,652 --> 01:21:18,213
Speaker 2: life crisis, you sign up for High Rocks.

1701
01:21:18,293 --> 01:21:22,333
Speaker 3: Midlife crisis, any positive change in your life. You've got

1702
01:21:22,333 --> 01:21:24,692
Speaker 3: some problems. Yeah, yeah, oh one hundred and eighty ten

1703
01:21:24,732 --> 01:21:26,692
Speaker 3: eighty love to hear from you. I mean, it's fascinating

1704
01:21:26,692 --> 01:21:30,053
Speaker 3: that it starts at the age of forty because I

1705
01:21:30,093 --> 01:21:32,372
Speaker 3: think when me and my friends sit around together now,

1706
01:21:32,532 --> 01:21:35,013
Speaker 3: instead of talking about, you know, big nights that we

1707
01:21:35,093 --> 01:21:37,013
Speaker 3: used to have out, we're kind of now starting to

1708
01:21:37,013 --> 01:21:39,852
Speaker 3: talk about let's go for shears in a yacht or

1709
01:21:41,013 --> 01:21:43,892
Speaker 3: let's buy a boat together. It's time. Maybe that is

1710
01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:45,972
Speaker 3: a sign of a parent midlife crisis.

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01:21:47,013 --> 01:21:50,013
Speaker 2: This Texas is Matt, didn't you say that you had

1712
01:21:50,053 --> 01:21:51,973
Speaker 2: recently got a pedicure? Surely that's the sign of a

1713
01:21:51,973 --> 01:21:55,732
Speaker 2: midlife crisis. No, that pedicure that I got in topoor

1714
01:21:56,213 --> 01:22:00,173
Speaker 2: was a sign of my partner, Tracer Tracy, booking it

1715
01:22:00,173 --> 01:22:03,213
Speaker 2: in and me agreeing to the calendar and vite without

1716
01:22:03,333 --> 01:22:04,133
Speaker 2: checking what it was.

1717
01:22:04,372 --> 01:22:06,773
Speaker 3: Amateur, amateur was with it.

1718
01:22:06,772 --> 01:22:08,452
Speaker 2: It was a nice It was actually really nice. It

1719
01:22:08,772 --> 01:22:11,412
Speaker 2: was actually really good. Yeah, I actually can see having

1720
01:22:11,452 --> 01:22:13,652
Speaker 2: someone like you know, rubbing your feet and cleaning them

1721
01:22:13,652 --> 01:22:14,812
Speaker 2: and stuff. It's quite good.

1722
01:22:14,853 --> 01:22:16,612
Speaker 3: When you talked about that message to here, I'm old

1723
01:22:16,612 --> 01:22:19,092
Speaker 3: man man, amen, oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1724
01:22:19,213 --> 01:22:22,213
Speaker 3: Is there such a thing as a midlife crisis? And

1725
01:22:22,253 --> 01:22:24,532
Speaker 3: did you go through some of those feelings that Matt

1726
01:22:24,612 --> 01:22:26,692
Speaker 3: just walked through? Love to hear from you. Nine two

1727
01:22:26,732 --> 01:22:28,772
Speaker 3: nine two is a text as well. It is twelve

1728
01:22:28,772 --> 01:22:32,013
Speaker 3: past three. U's talk he stiks b. It is a

1729
01:22:32,093 --> 01:22:33,012
Speaker 3: quarter past three.

1730
01:22:33,372 --> 01:22:39,452
Speaker 2: I refuse to pronounce pronunciation pronunciation will forever. The someone's

1731
01:22:39,452 --> 01:22:43,453
Speaker 2: text thing. It's hasling because we were talking about the pronounce,

1732
01:22:43,572 --> 01:22:49,012
Speaker 2: the pronounce, the pronunciation of toward the fance. Yeah, and

1733
01:22:49,532 --> 01:22:52,492
Speaker 2: someone says, how about learning to speak English properly? It's

1734
01:22:53,812 --> 01:22:57,812
Speaker 2: pronunciation not pronunciation. Nah, I reckon that that needs to

1735
01:22:57,893 --> 01:23:02,093
Speaker 2: change because you're talking about how do you pronounce something?

1736
01:23:02,133 --> 01:23:05,933
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say pronunciation. In fact, I'm just

1737
01:23:05,973 --> 01:23:08,692
Speaker 2: going to do it sometimes. I was doing it fifty fifty,

1738
01:23:08,692 --> 01:23:10,173
Speaker 2: but now that you've texted, I'm always going to do

1739
01:23:10,173 --> 01:23:11,492
Speaker 2: it the way that annoys you the most.

1740
01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:13,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much for that text.

1741
01:23:13,293 --> 01:23:16,932
Speaker 2: And that that plays into this this person. This tixs

1742
01:23:16,973 --> 01:23:18,892
Speaker 2: here the other side of midlife crisis of the onset

1743
01:23:18,933 --> 01:23:21,372
Speaker 2: of grumpy old man syndrome, both of which occur about

1744
01:23:21,412 --> 01:23:28,292
Speaker 2: same That tracks Matt going from Jeremy Wells on Hodaki

1745
01:23:28,412 --> 01:23:30,692
Speaker 2: to News Talks B the classic Old Guys show, is

1746
01:23:30,692 --> 01:23:36,253
Speaker 2: your midlife crisis? Matt gen X, No, that's called a promotion. Yeah,

1747
01:23:36,253 --> 01:23:37,812
Speaker 2: that's different from a midlife crisis.

1748
01:23:37,893 --> 01:23:39,093
Speaker 3: I think that's a massive.

1749
01:23:38,812 --> 01:23:41,893
Speaker 2: Going from the Hodaki Breakfast to this show here on

1750
01:23:42,013 --> 01:23:45,492
Speaker 2: News News talksy B. Yeah, the Mothership, the master Station,

1751
01:23:45,652 --> 01:23:48,732
Speaker 2: the power the powerhouse of broadcasts in this country. That's

1752
01:23:48,732 --> 01:23:50,652
Speaker 2: not a mid life crisis. That's that's a promotion.

1753
01:23:50,853 --> 01:23:55,773
Speaker 3: It's called a big cutching gen Gregg, how are you mate.

1754
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:58,213
Speaker 16: I'm good, I'm good, all right. That's exactly where I

1755
01:23:58,253 --> 01:23:59,372
Speaker 16: was going to meet myself.

1756
01:23:59,372 --> 01:24:02,452
Speaker 2: Actually, well you were you going to say I.

1757
01:24:02,612 --> 01:24:05,173
Speaker 16: Was, but but I didn't. I didn't look at it.

1758
01:24:05,213 --> 01:24:07,572
Speaker 16: I don't look at it as a negative thing by

1759
01:24:07,612 --> 01:24:10,532
Speaker 16: any street. It's not a mid life crisis just because yeah,

1760
01:24:11,173 --> 01:24:13,692
Speaker 16: like I listened to music stations and I was in

1761
01:24:13,772 --> 01:24:16,692
Speaker 16: news talks. Well, and we're having a midlife crisis when

1762
01:24:16,692 --> 01:24:20,173
Speaker 16: I change the radio station. You allowed to listen to

1763
01:24:20,173 --> 01:24:22,732
Speaker 16: the radio at different stations in a midlife you.

1764
01:24:22,652 --> 01:24:26,892
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, absolutely, And we get we get lots of

1765
01:24:26,893 --> 01:24:28,333
Speaker 2: calls from people in the early twenties.

1766
01:24:29,213 --> 01:24:30,652
Speaker 16: Yeah exactly.

1767
01:24:30,853 --> 01:24:32,932
Speaker 2: It's just as that's an old school way of looking

1768
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:33,612
Speaker 2: at talk back.

1769
01:24:34,412 --> 01:24:34,492
Speaker 18: Ess.

1770
01:24:34,492 --> 01:24:37,092
Speaker 2: Actually, people of all ages now.

1771
01:24:37,572 --> 01:24:41,012
Speaker 16: Completely completely, completely agree. And the other thing is about

1772
01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:45,132
Speaker 16: a mid life crisis. Well, like you guys have been insane.

1773
01:24:45,293 --> 01:24:51,092
Speaker 16: It's it's not. Everything happens for kind of for a reason,

1774
01:24:51,293 --> 01:24:54,892
Speaker 16: and we're out in life is where that may happen.

1775
01:24:55,772 --> 01:24:59,812
Speaker 16: And because things have changed in your life doesn't mean

1776
01:24:59,853 --> 01:25:04,372
Speaker 16: that you're having a crisis, and I guess it can

1777
01:25:04,412 --> 01:25:05,972
Speaker 16: be from an now. I mean, I remember I brought

1778
01:25:05,973 --> 01:25:10,133
Speaker 16: a I bult a convertible car about years ago. The

1779
01:25:10,213 --> 01:25:13,652
Speaker 16: reason I bought it was because it was the best

1780
01:25:13,692 --> 01:25:15,492
Speaker 16: thing on the market at the time for what I

1781
01:25:15,492 --> 01:25:18,612
Speaker 16: could what I could buy. I liked it, and I thought, yeah,

1782
01:25:18,612 --> 01:25:20,333
Speaker 16: I've always wanted one of those, so I bought it,

1783
01:25:21,013 --> 01:25:28,772
Speaker 16: and grief I got from Yeah, you know, middle aged

1784
01:25:28,812 --> 01:25:31,652
Speaker 16: board white guy driving around an a heeds of car.

1785
01:25:31,732 --> 01:25:34,412
Speaker 2: You know it's a cliche, but but the thing is

1786
01:25:34,452 --> 01:25:37,932
Speaker 2: as well is that you can't part of it as

1787
01:25:37,973 --> 01:25:40,692
Speaker 2: you don't care anymore, right, so you might have you know,

1788
01:25:40,973 --> 01:25:42,772
Speaker 2: you know, it becomes a point in your life where

1789
01:25:42,772 --> 01:25:45,053
Speaker 2: you don't care if someone says you're a member life crisis.

1790
01:25:45,253 --> 01:25:48,053
Speaker 2: You've always wanted that car, you can afford it, you

1791
01:25:48,133 --> 01:25:50,013
Speaker 2: buy it, call me what you want, bring it.

1792
01:25:49,973 --> 01:25:54,452
Speaker 16: On exactly exactly. I mean, I've always had the opinion

1793
01:25:54,492 --> 01:25:58,412
Speaker 16: of with cars, I'd buy whatever I want to drive,

1794
01:25:59,293 --> 01:26:02,853
Speaker 16: and I've had all sorts of wein and wonderful cars,

1795
01:26:03,492 --> 01:26:06,412
Speaker 16: and people have sort of said to me over the years,

1796
01:26:06,492 --> 01:26:09,573
Speaker 16: why do you buy all these odd cars, these different cars.

1797
01:26:09,293 --> 01:26:11,293
Speaker 10: It's just because I like them.

1798
01:26:11,333 --> 01:26:14,932
Speaker 16: And yeah, another made of one. He always he always

1799
01:26:15,053 --> 01:26:20,372
Speaker 16: checks the kilometers per litail And I just don't even

1800
01:26:20,372 --> 01:26:22,253
Speaker 16: look at it the way I look at it. If

1801
01:26:22,253 --> 01:26:25,852
Speaker 16: you're going to buy a car that you want, it

1802
01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:29,333
Speaker 16: doesn't matter what it costs to run in or whatever

1803
01:26:29,412 --> 01:26:32,652
Speaker 16: it is. You're buying it because you enjoy it. Just

1804
01:26:32,732 --> 01:26:33,253
Speaker 16: deal with it.

1805
01:26:33,492 --> 01:26:35,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so.

1806
01:26:36,133 --> 01:26:38,852
Speaker 2: Have you even if it isn't a midnife crisis, have

1807
01:26:38,933 --> 01:26:41,293
Speaker 2: you ever had a crisis at a different point in

1808
01:26:41,333 --> 01:26:43,693
Speaker 2: your life, Greg, if you don't mind me asking.

1809
01:26:43,933 --> 01:26:50,532
Speaker 16: Yep, Yeah, plenty plenty. That's life and my life, My

1810
01:26:50,612 --> 01:26:52,012
Speaker 16: life goes one to the next.

1811
01:26:52,492 --> 01:26:56,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we were we were just talking about kids

1812
01:26:56,452 --> 01:26:59,093
Speaker 2: starting school at five. That's a crisis in your life

1813
01:26:59,133 --> 01:27:02,333
Speaker 2: because you've just been at home running around with your

1814
01:27:02,333 --> 01:27:03,572
Speaker 2: family and then you go for a bit of a

1815
01:27:03,612 --> 01:27:05,012
Speaker 2: crisis to go to schools.

1816
01:27:06,372 --> 01:27:09,452
Speaker 16: It's a big change. And think we remember I had

1817
01:27:10,372 --> 01:27:12,812
Speaker 16: I had all persitionions when I started school because I

1818
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:17,772
Speaker 16: was unusually small, and that was I remember that being

1819
01:27:17,772 --> 01:27:19,173
Speaker 16: pretty hard for me at the time.

1820
01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,732
Speaker 2: But imagining who you are because it made you pluck out.

1821
01:27:23,213 --> 01:27:27,013
Speaker 3: In Bell's character, yeah, something like that.

1822
01:27:27,053 --> 01:27:28,892
Speaker 16: It didn't didn't feel like that at the time, but

1823
01:27:28,933 --> 01:27:29,932
Speaker 16: you know, that's how it works.

1824
01:27:30,253 --> 01:27:32,972
Speaker 2: You can argue that your first knife crisis is when

1825
01:27:32,973 --> 01:27:33,892
Speaker 2: you come out of the womb.

1826
01:27:34,732 --> 01:27:37,013
Speaker 3: Correct, you come out and go that's terrifying time.

1827
01:27:37,213 --> 01:27:38,972
Speaker 2: That was nice? Now where am i? This is horrible?

1828
01:27:39,253 --> 01:27:41,253
Speaker 3: So warm and lovely, and now I'm now in this

1829
01:27:41,732 --> 01:27:43,892
Speaker 3: weird people looking at me now, this big white room

1830
01:27:43,933 --> 01:27:46,173
Speaker 3: with everyone.

1831
01:27:46,412 --> 01:27:48,293
Speaker 16: What was the what was the agent that you got?

1832
01:27:48,333 --> 01:27:49,772
Speaker 16: Said forty to sixty five.

1833
01:27:50,013 --> 01:27:53,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically they're saying in anything that you that's.

1834
01:27:55,093 --> 01:27:57,012
Speaker 16: Work was out, this is work with out. That means

1835
01:27:57,053 --> 01:27:59,772
Speaker 16: that the average person dies between eighty and one hundred

1836
01:27:59,812 --> 01:28:00,253
Speaker 16: and thirty.

1837
01:28:01,492 --> 01:28:01,732
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1838
01:28:01,853 --> 01:28:05,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, going by the purely midlife technical term, yeah.

1839
01:28:06,133 --> 01:28:09,532
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't go to work out, doesn't It technically

1840
01:28:09,933 --> 01:28:13,293
Speaker 2: technically gets midlife for twenty five years. So basically, if

1841
01:28:13,333 --> 01:28:16,012
Speaker 2: you ever buy a nice car within a twenty five

1842
01:28:16,173 --> 01:28:18,572
Speaker 2: year range, someone's going to say you're going through a

1843
01:28:18,572 --> 01:28:21,452
Speaker 2: midlife crisis. So you've got a very small window to

1844
01:28:21,452 --> 01:28:22,253
Speaker 2: buy a nice car.

1845
01:28:23,093 --> 01:28:25,612
Speaker 3: That's right, right, you took it up before your twenty

1846
01:28:25,692 --> 01:28:31,133
Speaker 3: kids agreed just quickly, because I'm dangerously close to being

1847
01:28:31,133 --> 01:28:33,733
Speaker 3: one of those awful judging people. But why why the convertible?

1848
01:28:35,333 --> 01:28:36,573
Speaker 2: What is it about a convertible?

1849
01:28:37,133 --> 01:28:40,532
Speaker 16: I just always and then you know, it wasn't. It

1850
01:28:40,572 --> 01:28:42,492
Speaker 16: wasn't the fact of having the wind running through my

1851
01:28:42,572 --> 01:28:46,732
Speaker 16: hair because I didn't have any No, I just like

1852
01:28:46,812 --> 01:28:49,452
Speaker 16: him and I still do. It's like I was gathered

1853
01:28:49,452 --> 01:28:51,933
Speaker 16: because it got I lost it in the in the

1854
01:28:51,973 --> 01:28:57,972
Speaker 16: awful bloods oh wow. And I wasn't able to find

1855
01:28:57,973 --> 01:29:00,053
Speaker 16: another one to replace it with it, which really annoyed me.

1856
01:29:00,652 --> 01:29:05,213
Speaker 2: So I just got just completely destroyed, washed filled up

1857
01:29:05,213 --> 01:29:06,173
Speaker 2: with water, and well.

1858
01:29:06,013 --> 01:29:11,492
Speaker 16: It got, well it got, it got basically not quite

1859
01:29:11,532 --> 01:29:14,093
Speaker 16: washed away, but just flooded on the inside up to

1860
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:14,412
Speaker 16: the door.

1861
01:29:15,492 --> 01:29:15,772
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1862
01:29:18,093 --> 01:29:21,333
Speaker 16: Three cars that in that in that one day, and

1863
01:29:21,372 --> 01:29:23,173
Speaker 16: it was it was quite It was quite funny because

1864
01:29:23,253 --> 01:29:26,053
Speaker 16: like I remember, when I was insuring them, they'd always say,

1865
01:29:26,133 --> 01:29:28,492
Speaker 16: do you know when you when you're asking for the

1866
01:29:28,492 --> 01:29:30,973
Speaker 16: insurance force and you want to replacement Karen, Now that

1867
01:29:31,013 --> 01:29:33,612
Speaker 16: we'll have got three so it won't be a problem.

1868
01:29:33,772 --> 01:29:39,372
Speaker 3: Greg. There's then that they all went, there's a Texas

1869
01:29:39,372 --> 01:29:42,333
Speaker 3: just come through for your mates. Hopefully you know him.

1870
01:29:42,452 --> 01:29:44,452
Speaker 3: It's his. Greg loved his. He DRIs a car, but

1871
01:29:44,572 --> 01:29:46,812
Speaker 3: an example of a good bastard. I know him well

1872
01:29:46,973 --> 01:29:50,492
Speaker 3: and he was always there to help. From Troy, Oh yeah, yeah,

1873
01:29:50,572 --> 01:29:54,532
Speaker 3: yeah Troy, good, yeah good.

1874
01:29:54,652 --> 01:30:00,892
Speaker 2: Has Troy gone through a mid mid life crisis yet? Yeah, Troy,

1875
01:30:00,973 --> 01:30:02,812
Speaker 2: give us a buzz, tell us, tell us if you're

1876
01:30:02,812 --> 01:30:05,133
Speaker 2: in crisis. He thanks for your cool grig, appreciate it.

1877
01:30:05,133 --> 01:30:07,253
Speaker 2: Go well, yeah, I already hear about your cars?

1878
01:30:07,452 --> 01:30:08,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, that does suck.

1879
01:30:08,372 --> 01:30:08,412
Speaker 17: Go.

1880
01:30:08,492 --> 01:30:10,652
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1881
01:30:10,933 --> 01:30:14,253
Speaker 3: Do midlife crises exist? Or if you think you went

1882
01:30:14,293 --> 01:30:16,293
Speaker 3: through one? Might it might have been a reflective point

1883
01:30:16,293 --> 01:30:17,972
Speaker 3: in your life? Did you buy out the convertible? Did

1884
01:30:17,973 --> 01:30:19,772
Speaker 3: you buy a motorbike with a yacht? Love to hear

1885
01:30:19,812 --> 01:30:21,932
Speaker 3: from your Nine two ninety two is the text. It

1886
01:30:21,973 --> 01:30:23,253
Speaker 3: is twenty three past three.

1887
01:30:26,933 --> 01:30:29,253
Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

1888
01:30:29,253 --> 01:30:32,533
Speaker 1: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1889
01:30:32,412 --> 01:30:35,452
Speaker 3: Twenty five past three. We're talking about midlife crises. Do

1890
01:30:35,492 --> 01:30:37,852
Speaker 3: you think you went through one? Or do they actually exist?

1891
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:40,133
Speaker 3: Do we kind of in a crisis at most parts

1892
01:30:40,133 --> 01:30:40,612
Speaker 3: of our life?

1893
01:30:40,612 --> 01:30:40,732
Speaker 19: Oh?

1894
01:30:40,732 --> 01:30:42,452
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1895
01:30:42,532 --> 01:30:44,333
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text.

1896
01:30:44,492 --> 01:30:46,173
Speaker 2: Got a tattoo, now I have five that was my

1897
01:30:46,213 --> 01:30:49,972
Speaker 2: midlife crisis. Nice good stuff forty seven and just did

1898
01:30:49,973 --> 01:30:53,012
Speaker 2: a whole car stereo refit dff doff. I'm nineteen again.

1899
01:30:53,133 --> 01:30:54,892
Speaker 3: Cheers man, great man.

1900
01:30:55,293 --> 01:30:56,892
Speaker 2: See. Yeah, a lot of the stuff that people are

1901
01:30:56,933 --> 01:31:01,052
Speaker 2: just accusing of being midlife crisis behavior as just someone

1902
01:31:01,093 --> 01:31:03,133
Speaker 2: getting around to something that they've always wanted to do,

1903
01:31:03,572 --> 01:31:06,972
Speaker 2: and they just happen to be old in our because

1904
01:31:07,572 --> 01:31:10,133
Speaker 2: you know, maybe in your twenties and thirties you don't

1905
01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:14,293
Speaker 2: have either the money or you're just having there's a

1906
01:31:14,372 --> 01:31:16,532
Speaker 2: long period of longing. Maybe you come up with the

1907
01:31:16,652 --> 01:31:18,732
Speaker 2: stream of what you want in your twenties. Yeah, you

1908
01:31:18,772 --> 01:31:20,572
Speaker 2: don't get around to it in your thirties. You do

1909
01:31:20,612 --> 01:31:24,253
Speaker 2: it in your forties, and then everyone goes mid love crisis.

1910
01:31:24,612 --> 01:31:27,293
Speaker 2: Hi guys, I'm I am seventeen thinking of having a

1911
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:29,652
Speaker 2: mid life crisis. I have have I left it too late?

1912
01:31:29,772 --> 01:31:30,253
Speaker 2: Cheers Dave.

1913
01:31:30,853 --> 01:31:34,093
Speaker 3: Never too late to buy a convertible, Dave, get angst it. No,

1914
01:31:34,412 --> 01:31:35,492
Speaker 3: just do what you enjoy.

1915
01:31:36,013 --> 01:31:43,892
Speaker 2: This person said, convertibles not cool. Not a man's car.

1916
01:31:44,333 --> 01:31:45,492
Speaker 3: Okay, shots fired.

1917
01:31:45,692 --> 01:31:51,812
Speaker 2: Even mcguver's jeep was questionable. That's really hard.

1918
01:31:51,893 --> 01:31:54,213
Speaker 3: That is very harsh, very harsh. That was a cool jeep.

1919
01:31:54,253 --> 01:31:57,892
Speaker 2: Have you seen the parody the parody show and movie

1920
01:31:57,933 --> 01:32:01,452
Speaker 2: Will Forte of mcgiver called macgruba, Yes, he drove, he

1921
01:32:01,572 --> 01:32:04,652
Speaker 2: is a convertive, that he's a Mesdax five and the

1922
01:32:04,772 --> 01:32:07,053
Speaker 2: ongoing joke because he always takes the stereo out and

1923
01:32:07,412 --> 01:32:08,093
Speaker 2: carries it with them.

1924
01:32:08,772 --> 01:32:10,412
Speaker 3: That is a great movie. Oh one hundred and eighty

1925
01:32:10,412 --> 01:32:11,972
Speaker 3: ten eighty is able to cool. Get a craig.

1926
01:32:12,853 --> 01:32:17,013
Speaker 19: Hey, guys, I don't call them mid life crisis, but

1927
01:32:17,213 --> 01:32:22,652
Speaker 19: my wife, dud I was on fifty six now. When

1928
01:32:22,732 --> 01:32:25,612
Speaker 19: I was forty nine, approaching at fifty, I had a

1929
01:32:25,652 --> 01:32:27,532
Speaker 19: moment in bed one night. I was just lying in

1930
01:32:27,612 --> 01:32:29,652
Speaker 19: bed and I've got a bit of emotional all of

1931
01:32:29,652 --> 01:32:32,333
Speaker 19: a sudden, and I thought, shit, I am going to

1932
01:32:32,412 --> 01:32:36,972
Speaker 19: live this long again. And I was thinking of all

1933
01:32:37,053 --> 01:32:41,372
Speaker 19: the things. I became a father at eighteen, and I

1934
01:32:41,412 --> 01:32:43,772
Speaker 19: did the best I could raise him with three girls.

1935
01:32:44,053 --> 01:32:48,492
Speaker 19: And I saw me mates doing stuff that I I

1936
01:32:48,532 --> 01:32:50,053
Speaker 19: wish I was doing it with him, but I could

1937
01:32:50,053 --> 01:32:53,892
Speaker 19: have been. I was a dad. So I laid and

1938
01:32:54,213 --> 01:32:57,852
Speaker 19: I'm going to do all the things that I missed

1939
01:32:57,893 --> 01:33:00,652
Speaker 19: out on that I really gussing I missed out I'm

1940
01:33:00,652 --> 01:33:05,612
Speaker 19: doing and I think it's more fucking listening farther than

1941
01:33:05,652 --> 01:33:12,012
Speaker 19: mid life crisis. And my responsibilities are gone to a point.

1942
01:33:12,133 --> 01:33:14,452
Speaker 19: The kids are growing up, they've got families of their own,

1943
01:33:14,893 --> 01:33:16,772
Speaker 19: and I can do it for me, you know, And

1944
01:33:16,853 --> 01:33:18,732
Speaker 19: I think it's a good thing now that I can

1945
01:33:18,772 --> 01:33:22,572
Speaker 19: afford to do it. Papers out had the time to

1946
01:33:22,612 --> 01:33:25,892
Speaker 19: do it where we're a long time dead.

1947
01:33:26,652 --> 01:33:28,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you do you when you when you do

1948
01:33:29,213 --> 01:33:31,572
Speaker 2: one of these things that you've wanted to do, do

1949
01:33:31,612 --> 01:33:34,533
Speaker 2: you get accused of midlife crisis, having a mid life crisis?

1950
01:33:35,173 --> 01:33:35,412
Speaker 19: Does that.

1951
01:33:37,492 --> 01:33:40,053
Speaker 2: Wife you said you, Well, one of the parts of

1952
01:33:40,053 --> 01:33:43,293
Speaker 2: a midlife crisis, Craig is as listed here as leaving

1953
01:33:43,293 --> 01:33:46,093
Speaker 2: your wife, but you have you've stayed with your wife.

1954
01:33:46,452 --> 01:33:48,333
Speaker 19: Well, when you all think about it, but that costs

1955
01:33:48,333 --> 01:33:48,932
Speaker 19: too much.

1956
01:33:49,772 --> 01:33:52,532
Speaker 2: That wise man, she would love to hear that it's

1957
01:33:52,532 --> 01:33:53,692
Speaker 2: a purely financial thing.

1958
01:33:55,133 --> 01:33:59,093
Speaker 19: But honestly, you know, we're at that age now where

1959
01:33:59,133 --> 01:34:00,572
Speaker 19: we start bearing our mace.

1960
01:34:00,933 --> 01:34:05,172
Speaker 20: You know, I buried a couple in the last twelve months,

1961
01:34:05,213 --> 01:34:08,692
Speaker 20: and you know, if you can do this thing you've

1962
01:34:08,732 --> 01:34:12,132
Speaker 20: always wanted to do, why go to your grave?

1963
01:34:13,893 --> 01:34:16,532
Speaker 19: As I wish to go and saying, what.

1964
01:34:16,532 --> 01:34:19,093
Speaker 3: The hell of a ridd you know, yeah, do you

1965
01:34:19,093 --> 01:34:21,253
Speaker 3: think it is? It's just you know, if it starts

1966
01:34:21,253 --> 01:34:23,612
Speaker 3: at forty, that seems pretty young to me. But it's

1967
01:34:23,812 --> 01:34:26,213
Speaker 3: just that's a reflective moment a lot of people's lives.

1968
01:34:26,253 --> 01:34:29,092
Speaker 3: You have your fortieth birthday and people make a somewhat

1969
01:34:29,093 --> 01:34:31,333
Speaker 3: big deal about it, and that's kind of a time

1970
01:34:31,412 --> 01:34:33,372
Speaker 3: after that that you've hit a milestone and you kind

1971
01:34:33,372 --> 01:34:35,572
Speaker 3: of look back and say, what do I want to

1972
01:34:35,853 --> 01:34:38,733
Speaker 3: achieve for the next decade? You know, what do I

1973
01:34:38,812 --> 01:34:40,692
Speaker 3: What did I never buy that I wanted to buy?

1974
01:34:40,732 --> 01:34:42,093
Speaker 3: That might be a big part of it that you're

1975
01:34:42,173 --> 01:34:45,253
Speaker 3: just in that reflective mode when you hit those little milestones.

1976
01:34:45,933 --> 01:34:48,213
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, that happened to me when I was.

1977
01:34:48,173 --> 01:34:53,452
Speaker 21: Forty nine, and it was it was a real moment,

1978
01:34:53,652 --> 01:34:56,333
Speaker 21: and I think, you know, you hit forty and you

1979
01:34:56,412 --> 01:34:58,852
Speaker 21: think no, when you hit thirty and think how did

1980
01:34:58,893 --> 01:34:59,372
Speaker 21: I get here?

1981
01:34:59,412 --> 01:35:01,572
Speaker 19: And then you think hit forty, how did I get here?

1982
01:35:03,013 --> 01:35:06,293
Speaker 19: Then I got to that age whereas I ain't going

1983
01:35:06,372 --> 01:35:10,253
Speaker 19: to get here again, you know, I am my life over.

1984
01:35:11,412 --> 01:35:14,492
Speaker 19: At least were board this out and enjoy it?

1985
01:35:15,772 --> 01:35:18,972
Speaker 2: Did you have when you were lying here there forty nine,

1986
01:35:19,053 --> 01:35:20,933
Speaker 2: having this moment, was there was there a lot of

1987
01:35:20,973 --> 01:35:23,772
Speaker 2: regrets in there was there any wadiffs looking back and

1988
01:35:23,812 --> 01:35:25,572
Speaker 2: going I should have done this, I didn't do that,

1989
01:35:26,213 --> 01:35:26,972
Speaker 2: those kind of thoughts.

1990
01:35:27,893 --> 01:35:31,812
Speaker 19: I don't have any regrets. Yeah, yeah, you live your life.

1991
01:35:31,893 --> 01:35:36,013
Speaker 19: I don't have regrets. And you know, I would have

1992
01:35:36,173 --> 01:35:40,452
Speaker 19: possibly paid a bit more attention at school that I

1993
01:35:41,253 --> 01:35:44,452
Speaker 19: don't have regrets. Every thing I did in life, whether

1994
01:35:44,452 --> 01:35:47,652
Speaker 19: it was right or wrong or whatever, I learned from it.

1995
01:35:47,692 --> 01:35:49,372
Speaker 2: Must have been quite full on to have kids when

1996
01:35:49,412 --> 01:35:51,532
Speaker 2: you were eighteen, though, as you said, you're sort of

1997
01:35:51,532 --> 01:35:53,612
Speaker 2: missing out on a lot of stuff that people were doing.

1998
01:35:53,652 --> 01:35:56,372
Speaker 2: But once your kids, you know, you're only fifty six

1999
01:35:56,372 --> 01:35:58,532
Speaker 2: and your kids are forty or one of your kids

2000
01:35:58,652 --> 01:36:00,612
Speaker 2: is forty, that's pretty good because then you you know,

2001
01:36:00,612 --> 01:36:03,692
Speaker 2: you get to experience ground grandchildren that turned out to

2002
01:36:03,692 --> 01:36:05,652
Speaker 2: be that probably turned out to be a great thing. Right.

2003
01:36:06,652 --> 01:36:11,293
Speaker 19: I've got eleven grand hits and at fifty six, my

2004
01:36:11,492 --> 01:36:18,973
Speaker 19: parents are still healthy, they've got great grands. Yeah, and

2005
01:36:19,013 --> 01:36:21,612
Speaker 19: the people that no I would have changed. In fact,

2006
01:36:22,372 --> 01:36:24,612
Speaker 19: I've had a bloody good life. But I just want

2007
01:36:24,652 --> 01:36:28,933
Speaker 19: to do those things, the selfish things I couldn't do

2008
01:36:29,013 --> 01:36:30,253
Speaker 19: when I was raising the kids.

2009
01:36:30,333 --> 01:36:31,973
Speaker 2: I mean, how good to be fifty six and have

2010
01:36:32,452 --> 01:36:35,492
Speaker 2: eleven grandkids because you've got the energy to, you know,

2011
01:36:35,612 --> 01:36:39,812
Speaker 2: spend time with them.

2012
01:36:38,093 --> 01:36:39,492
Speaker 19: Not all of them at once.

2013
01:36:41,532 --> 01:36:43,132
Speaker 2: Have you ever had all of them at once.

2014
01:36:44,853 --> 01:36:46,612
Speaker 4: That we've got.

2015
01:36:46,772 --> 01:36:52,013
Speaker 19: We've got three coming this Saturday night. One of the two

2016
01:36:52,173 --> 01:36:55,253
Speaker 19: two sisters, them and their cousin like, yeah, they coming

2017
01:36:55,732 --> 01:36:59,012
Speaker 19: this this And I said to my wife, well, well

2018
01:36:59,053 --> 01:37:00,652
Speaker 19: I'll be there all day, but I said, when it

2019
01:37:00,692 --> 01:37:02,813
Speaker 19: comes to bedtime, I'll be in the man cave.

2020
01:37:02,812 --> 01:37:07,173
Speaker 2: In the man cave, Craig. Yeah, and good luck with

2021
01:37:07,213 --> 01:37:08,293
Speaker 2: that mid life christ.

2022
01:37:08,572 --> 01:37:08,772
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2023
01:37:08,772 --> 01:37:11,053
Speaker 2: And it sounds like you're ripping it up. You're making

2024
01:37:11,093 --> 01:37:11,652
Speaker 2: the best.

2025
01:37:11,412 --> 01:37:12,572
Speaker 3: Of it, You're going hard, love it.

2026
01:37:12,612 --> 01:37:15,333
Speaker 2: Great's fantastic after the break because a lot of people

2027
01:37:15,333 --> 01:37:19,173
Speaker 2: are taking and saying, can women have midlife crisises? Crises? Yep,

2028
01:37:19,213 --> 01:37:23,173
Speaker 2: midlife crises. I assume we don't want to get the

2029
01:37:23,253 --> 01:37:24,852
Speaker 2: pronunciation crowd coming in.

2030
01:37:24,893 --> 01:37:27,052
Speaker 3: They'll come through, they'll come calvary. So, yeah, the teams

2031
01:37:27,053 --> 01:37:27,973
Speaker 3: are coming through already.

2032
01:37:29,173 --> 01:37:33,012
Speaker 2: So I've been researching the primary differences between a male

2033
01:37:33,053 --> 01:37:36,732
Speaker 2: midlife crisis and a female midlife crisis. That quite different actually,

2034
01:37:36,812 --> 01:37:39,692
Speaker 2: but they do happen, if they happen at all, because

2035
01:37:39,732 --> 01:37:42,173
Speaker 2: my argument is we've just have a series of crises

2036
01:37:42,253 --> 01:37:46,412
Speaker 2: through our lives. We're always in crisis pretty much. Who's

2037
01:37:46,452 --> 01:37:46,932
Speaker 2: dealing with.

2038
01:37:46,893 --> 01:37:49,652
Speaker 3: Something that is life right? That is coming up next

2039
01:37:49,692 --> 01:37:51,772
Speaker 3: headlines with Ray Lean and then of course taking more

2040
01:37:51,812 --> 01:37:53,652
Speaker 3: of your calls. If you've gone through what you thought

2041
01:37:53,933 --> 01:37:56,412
Speaker 3: was a midlife crisis, what did you buy and what

2042
01:37:56,572 --> 01:37:58,412
Speaker 3: was the response when you brought it? Twenty seven to.

2043
01:37:58,452 --> 01:38:03,492
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2045
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2046
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2047
01:38:15,412 --> 01:38:19,372
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2048
01:38:19,452 --> 01:38:22,173
Speaker 11: junior officer under their command to kiss them on the

2049
01:38:22,253 --> 01:38:27,292
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2050
01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:29,933
Speaker 11: when he was convicted of told an appeal court he

2051
01:38:30,093 --> 01:38:32,932
Speaker 11: was pleased to be charged with terrorism as he now

2052
01:38:32,973 --> 01:38:37,652
Speaker 11: tries to vacate as please claiming mental ill health. Christ

2053
01:38:37,732 --> 01:38:41,372
Speaker 11: Church Police are asking for information in photo CCTV or

2054
01:38:41,452 --> 01:38:46,052
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2055
01:38:46,133 --> 01:38:50,972
Speaker 11: to a stabbing on Fitzgerald Avenue about midday yesterday. Earth

2056
01:38:51,013 --> 01:38:54,772
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2057
01:38:54,853 --> 01:38:59,572
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2058
01:38:59,652 --> 01:39:02,732
Speaker 11: two hundred and sixty six millimeters of rain, a whopping

2059
01:39:02,893 --> 01:39:06,372
Speaker 11: five hundred and sixty two percent of the normal precipitation

2060
01:39:06,692 --> 01:39:11,293
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2061
01:39:11,572 --> 01:39:16,293
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2062
01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:19,532
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2063
01:39:19,572 --> 01:39:21,772
Speaker 11: from Tyler Adams, thank you very much, Rayle.

2064
01:39:21,732 --> 01:39:22,812
Speaker 2: You don't want the eco boost.

2065
01:39:22,933 --> 01:39:24,732
Speaker 3: No, you definitely don't want the ego boosts.

2066
01:39:24,732 --> 01:39:28,692
Speaker 2: Just being show entire pictures of mistands, Mustangs, Mustangs standing

2067
01:39:28,772 --> 01:39:29,173
Speaker 2: US stags.

2068
01:39:29,173 --> 01:39:30,572
Speaker 3: I've got you excited when I said you can pick

2069
01:39:30,572 --> 01:39:32,173
Speaker 3: it up for thirty two thousand bucks. But it's the

2070
01:39:32,213 --> 01:39:35,013
Speaker 3: ego BOOSTUS. You know if you go lasts dang, you're

2071
01:39:35,013 --> 01:39:35,892
Speaker 3: going to go full noise.

2072
01:39:36,013 --> 01:39:38,213
Speaker 2: You didn't get me excited. I said, that's not what

2073
01:39:38,293 --> 01:39:43,012
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. So, male midlife crisis is generally centered

2074
01:39:43,133 --> 01:39:46,852
Speaker 2: on status, achievement, and identity, and it's often triggered by

2075
01:39:46,853 --> 01:39:50,772
Speaker 2: a career plateau, redundancy or loss of authority. Tends to

2076
01:39:50,812 --> 01:39:53,692
Speaker 2: show up in an external change, new job, new partner,

2077
01:39:53,893 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 2: big purchases, bit of risk taking. Right emotions are more

2078
01:39:58,372 --> 01:40:01,493
Speaker 2: likely to be acted out than talked about, higher association

2079
01:40:01,572 --> 01:40:05,933
Speaker 2: with substance use, withdraw or impulsive decisions wow yeah, and

2080
01:40:06,293 --> 01:40:08,772
Speaker 2: their common underlying fear as I'm no longer useful or

2081
01:40:08,812 --> 01:40:12,932
Speaker 2: respect that this is what people describe as midlife crisis.

2082
01:40:13,492 --> 01:40:16,213
Speaker 2: I'm saying they don't really exist. So this is what's

2083
01:40:16,572 --> 01:40:21,052
Speaker 2: a particular psychiatrist is saying they are. Female midlife crisis

2084
01:40:21,173 --> 01:40:26,012
Speaker 2: are more likely centered on relationships, meaning so they feel

2085
01:40:26,013 --> 01:40:28,652
Speaker 2: like that their relationships not up to snuff and their

2086
01:40:28,692 --> 01:40:31,612
Speaker 2: life doesn't have enough meaning. This is often triggered by

2087
01:40:33,133 --> 01:40:37,012
Speaker 2: empty nests and they're, you know, coming out of caregiving

2088
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:39,492
Speaker 2: and wondering what their purpose is now make sense, They

2089
01:40:39,532 --> 01:40:43,893
Speaker 2: start to feel invisible. It tends to show up with

2090
01:40:44,732 --> 01:40:49,692
Speaker 2: internal reckoning apparently, right, which is grief for the self

2091
01:40:50,013 --> 01:40:51,972
Speaker 2: whatever that means. What's grief for the self means?

2092
01:40:52,133 --> 01:40:53,852
Speaker 3: Sounds destructive, more.

2093
01:40:53,772 --> 01:40:58,132
Speaker 2: Likely to involve reflection, therapy or gradual change frequently overlaps,

2094
01:40:58,253 --> 01:41:03,372
Speaker 2: overlaps with menopause, and the common underlying fear is I

2095
01:41:03,412 --> 01:41:04,293
Speaker 2: gave everything, but.

2096
01:41:04,372 --> 01:41:05,093
Speaker 5: Who am I now?

2097
01:41:06,133 --> 01:41:06,372
Speaker 4: Deep?

2098
01:41:06,812 --> 01:41:07,692
Speaker 3: Very deep, So.

2099
01:41:07,812 --> 01:41:11,013
Speaker 2: Mena I no longer feel useful or respected and woman up,

2100
01:41:11,293 --> 01:41:15,012
Speaker 2: I gave everything? Who am I now? And both sides

2101
01:41:15,053 --> 01:41:16,973
Speaker 2: want to get rid of their current partner. So the

2102
01:41:17,053 --> 01:41:21,412
Speaker 2: woman want to record their relationships rubbish. The men want

2103
01:41:21,452 --> 01:41:23,092
Speaker 2: to trade in for a younger model harsh.

2104
01:41:26,253 --> 01:41:27,812
Speaker 3: That's the research. That's the studies.

2105
01:41:27,933 --> 01:41:34,813
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the American comedian Nate Bogosie, No, Bogisie.

2106
01:41:34,973 --> 01:41:35,532
Speaker 3: Haven't heard of them.

2107
01:41:35,732 --> 01:41:38,972
Speaker 2: It's very funny. He's I just absolutely love the man.

2108
01:41:39,213 --> 01:41:42,933
Speaker 2: He's got a bunch of specials on Netflix. But I

2109
01:41:43,053 --> 01:41:45,572
Speaker 2: recently saw some stand up comedy that he did on

2110
01:41:45,973 --> 01:41:48,652
Speaker 2: You know. The changing of your life in terms of

2111
01:41:49,532 --> 01:41:51,492
Speaker 2: partying and going out, which I think is a big

2112
01:41:51,532 --> 01:41:54,932
Speaker 2: part of a midlife crisis. You're starting to go aut

2113
01:41:54,973 --> 01:41:57,572
Speaker 2: partying again, yep, because you haven't had too you haven't

2114
01:41:57,612 --> 01:41:59,133
Speaker 2: had the opportunity or whatever. But this is this is

2115
01:41:59,213 --> 01:42:02,213
Speaker 2: somethim going through the stages of being invited out in life.

2116
01:42:02,612 --> 01:42:05,572
Speaker 22: I miss being young. Your twenties are great, You're down

2117
01:42:05,692 --> 01:42:08,213
Speaker 22: for whatever. Your friends call you, They're like, do you

2118
01:42:08,492 --> 01:42:10,293
Speaker 22: to go? You're like, I'll go. You don't even know

2119
01:42:10,333 --> 01:42:14,092
Speaker 22: where you're going. You're like, I'll move, dude, I'll set

2120
01:42:14,133 --> 01:42:15,052
Speaker 22: my apartment on fire.

2121
01:42:15,133 --> 01:42:15,893
Speaker 5: What do you want to do?

2122
01:42:18,893 --> 01:42:21,652
Speaker 22: Your thirties come and you're like, where are we going?

2123
01:42:23,412 --> 01:42:24,412
Speaker 22: How late are they open?

2124
01:42:24,652 --> 01:42:25,333
Speaker 7: Is it loud?

2125
01:42:28,253 --> 01:42:36,213
Speaker 22: I am going to drive separate your forties, you're I'm

2126
01:42:36,293 --> 01:42:41,812
Speaker 22: not going. I'm mad that you thought I would go.

2127
01:42:47,933 --> 01:42:50,572
Speaker 2: That's kind of stage. You're like, Oh, it be so

2128
01:42:50,692 --> 01:42:52,652
Speaker 2: much better if you hadn't invited me. Yeah, and then

2129
01:42:52,692 --> 01:42:54,173
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have to feel obliged to.

2130
01:42:54,213 --> 01:42:57,452
Speaker 3: Go, taking your own cast. So true, so true. Get

2131
01:42:57,492 --> 01:43:02,692
Speaker 3: a John Hey, guy growing Brian? Oh sorry, Brian, did

2132
01:43:02,772 --> 01:43:03,012
Speaker 3: you say?

2133
01:43:03,253 --> 01:43:03,452
Speaker 13: Are you?

2134
01:43:03,532 --> 01:43:08,173
Speaker 2: Brian Christ?

2135
01:43:08,213 --> 01:43:11,572
Speaker 14: The Inspective, I'm a thirty year old too busy to

2136
01:43:11,692 --> 01:43:13,572
Speaker 14: enjoy the good things in life at the moment. You know,

2137
01:43:13,853 --> 01:43:17,253
Speaker 14: Kurd's family work, working hard, and so I'm waiting to

2138
01:43:17,612 --> 01:43:19,452
Speaker 14: go into my midlife crisis.

2139
01:43:21,133 --> 01:43:23,293
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll be an early midlife crisis because

2140
01:43:23,492 --> 01:43:26,572
Speaker 2: it happens between forty and sixty five, So you're teen

2141
01:43:26,652 --> 01:43:29,732
Speaker 2: years out from being an early adopted midlife crisis guy.

2142
01:43:30,013 --> 01:43:33,452
Speaker 18: Well, it could be, could be depends how successful you get, right,

2143
01:43:33,973 --> 01:43:37,452
Speaker 18: But look, I think it's a different I think midlife

2144
01:43:37,492 --> 01:43:40,973
Speaker 18: crisis is a different way of wording that. But you know,

2145
01:43:41,053 --> 01:43:44,572
Speaker 18: I could go and buy a convertible or seven twenty

2146
01:43:44,652 --> 01:43:46,532
Speaker 18: years spider, if that's considered it.

2147
01:43:46,572 --> 01:43:50,052
Speaker 17: To be a convertible, but you couldn't enjoy it because

2148
01:43:50,093 --> 01:43:52,213
Speaker 17: you get no time to drive. It just be sitting

2149
01:43:52,293 --> 01:43:54,932
Speaker 17: in there at a garage queen all weekend, all day.

2150
01:43:55,053 --> 01:43:57,772
Speaker 17: So I'm waiting to do it when you actually can.

2151
01:43:57,973 --> 01:44:00,293
Speaker 3: So you're actually looking forward to the moment that you

2152
01:44:00,372 --> 01:44:01,652
Speaker 3: can have a midlife crisis job.

2153
01:44:03,372 --> 01:44:04,932
Speaker 2: Well, there's no point in having a two seater when

2154
01:44:04,973 --> 01:44:06,173
Speaker 2: you've got kids. It's just not.

2155
01:44:06,213 --> 01:44:09,372
Speaker 14: Prefoundily, how do you fit the do the kids and

2156
01:44:09,492 --> 01:44:10,812
Speaker 14: everything else that goes along.

2157
01:44:10,652 --> 01:44:11,133
Speaker 5: With it, right?

2158
01:44:11,293 --> 01:44:15,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, when my kids were young,

2159
01:44:15,572 --> 01:44:18,253
Speaker 2: we had to have a big suv because there was

2160
01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:20,372
Speaker 2: just so much sports equipment to be carried around.

2161
01:44:20,452 --> 01:44:21,612
Speaker 3: Need a good boot, yeah.

2162
01:44:23,093 --> 01:44:23,333
Speaker 22: Yeah.

2163
01:44:23,853 --> 01:44:27,212
Speaker 18: So look, it's just that you want to enjoy things properly.

2164
01:44:27,812 --> 01:44:31,692
Speaker 18: So I kind of get white people hang around to

2165
01:44:31,853 --> 01:44:35,412
Speaker 18: their mid forties and fifties to do it. But it's

2166
01:44:35,652 --> 01:44:38,053
Speaker 18: just yeah, I don't know if it's meant to be

2167
01:44:38,133 --> 01:44:40,173
Speaker 18: called in mid life crisis, but it is what it is.

2168
01:44:42,053 --> 01:44:44,732
Speaker 2: Have you been through any crises yet, John, in your

2169
01:44:44,772 --> 01:44:45,492
Speaker 2: life you're thirty?

2170
01:44:46,933 --> 01:44:47,613
Speaker 14: Just tantrums.

2171
01:44:48,732 --> 01:44:50,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a biggie. That's a biggie.

2172
01:44:50,973 --> 01:44:52,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because my argument is, I think I'm on

2173
01:44:52,973 --> 01:44:54,972
Speaker 2: the same page as you, is that there was things

2174
01:44:55,013 --> 01:44:57,652
Speaker 2: you wanted to do and you couldn't do them, and

2175
01:44:57,692 --> 01:44:59,812
Speaker 2: then you can do them, and then you do them,

2176
01:44:59,893 --> 01:45:01,692
Speaker 2: and then someone says mess life crisis, but you're like,

2177
01:45:01,812 --> 01:45:03,892
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to do this. There's nothing changed. Yeah,

2178
01:45:03,933 --> 01:45:04,933
Speaker 2: I was always wanting to do this.

2179
01:45:05,013 --> 01:45:07,852
Speaker 5: I just couldn't well exactly exactly.

2180
01:45:08,053 --> 01:45:08,253
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2181
01:45:09,772 --> 01:45:12,892
Speaker 2: Well, thank you's John, and good luck that midlife crisis.

2182
01:45:13,133 --> 01:45:14,293
Speaker 2: I hope you can hit it at forty.

2183
01:45:15,053 --> 01:45:15,852
Speaker 5: I look forward to it.

2184
01:45:16,013 --> 01:45:17,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're planning early, so that's a part of it.

2185
01:45:18,293 --> 01:45:20,852
Speaker 2: So what vehicle were you looking at for the midlife crisis?

2186
01:45:22,492 --> 01:45:25,812
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good one.

2187
01:45:26,372 --> 01:45:29,333
Speaker 18: It will probably be something real will drive, short wheel

2188
01:45:29,412 --> 01:45:31,133
Speaker 18: base with a six speed gearbox.

2189
01:45:31,572 --> 01:45:33,612
Speaker 3: Oh nice, that's just good.

2190
01:45:34,173 --> 01:45:38,532
Speaker 2: Give us a ring back in ten years, give us

2191
01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:40,852
Speaker 2: a ring back anytime, John, You're great New Zealand. To

2192
01:45:40,893 --> 01:45:44,692
Speaker 2: thank you for your call, the sticks has said, Hi, guys,

2193
01:45:45,133 --> 01:45:47,133
Speaker 2: kids are grown up, moved out. Now I finally own

2194
01:45:47,173 --> 01:45:50,852
Speaker 2: a beautiful MGB Roadster convertible. Not a midlife crisis, just

2195
01:45:50,933 --> 01:45:53,133
Speaker 2: the fact I can afford it now and cheers car.

2196
01:45:53,452 --> 01:45:56,293
Speaker 2: I always had a dream of owning an MGB Roadster

2197
01:45:56,333 --> 01:46:00,253
Speaker 2: when I was the beautiful mg Roadster when I was okay,

2198
01:46:00,893 --> 01:46:03,372
Speaker 2: like right through my teams Riot teams, I thought it

2199
01:46:03,412 --> 01:46:04,652
Speaker 2: would be a cool car to own.

2200
01:46:04,732 --> 01:46:05,612
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?

2201
01:46:05,772 --> 01:46:08,133
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just thought that. I just I mean,

2202
01:46:08,173 --> 01:46:12,972
Speaker 2: the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful vehicle. I mean, you're gonna they're

2203
01:46:12,973 --> 01:46:15,492
Speaker 2: gonna spend I mean, it's one of the most icon

2204
01:46:15,532 --> 01:46:16,572
Speaker 2: of British sports cars.

2205
01:46:18,173 --> 01:46:18,973
Speaker 3: Very sophisticated.

2206
01:46:19,013 --> 01:46:20,812
Speaker 2: It's going to spend a lot of time in the shop,

2207
01:46:22,492 --> 01:46:26,333
Speaker 2: hard to get partsful now, yeah, I mean, very lightweight situation.

2208
01:46:26,732 --> 01:46:29,133
Speaker 3: But would anyone see that's a convertible. I don't think

2209
01:46:29,173 --> 01:46:31,053
Speaker 3: anyone would make fun of If you buy that at

2210
01:46:31,053 --> 01:46:35,253
Speaker 3: the age of fifty five sixty five, then there's sophistication

2211
01:46:35,372 --> 01:46:41,133
Speaker 3: in that bear Boy, whereas a Mazda, you know, an five,

2212
01:46:41,692 --> 01:46:43,652
Speaker 3: there's no credible in the exactly.

2213
01:46:45,612 --> 01:46:48,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're a little bit of a I mean

2214
01:46:48,412 --> 01:46:51,692
Speaker 2: they're not a they're not a tough car. You know

2215
01:46:51,853 --> 01:46:59,213
Speaker 2: that they are a whimsical whimsical operation the road star. Yeah,

2216
01:46:59,372 --> 01:47:01,973
Speaker 2: I mean beautiful, but they're kind of more picnics in

2217
01:47:02,053 --> 01:47:06,253
Speaker 2: the you know, taking your partner for a picnic kind

2218
01:47:06,253 --> 01:47:09,652
Speaker 2: of vibe with an actual picnic basket, that kind of thing.

2219
01:47:09,812 --> 01:47:10,293
Speaker 3: That's lovely.

2220
01:47:11,133 --> 01:47:14,452
Speaker 2: Life crisis dragging someone off at the lights. Midlife crisis vehicle.

2221
01:47:14,532 --> 01:47:16,532
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2222
01:47:16,532 --> 01:47:19,212
Speaker 3: to call? Is there such a thing as a midlife crisis?

2223
01:47:19,812 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 3: And if you think you went through it, what did

2224
01:47:21,293 --> 01:47:23,133
Speaker 3: you buy? What kind of car? What did you go for?

2225
01:47:23,213 --> 01:47:24,253
Speaker 3: A yacht? Love to hear from you.

2226
01:47:24,492 --> 01:47:26,612
Speaker 2: I agree with this text. A midlife crisis is just

2227
01:47:26,692 --> 01:47:29,892
Speaker 2: an expression of jealousy from those that can't.

2228
01:47:29,732 --> 01:47:32,053
Speaker 3: Afford what you've bought, or nicely Potts it is.

2229
01:47:32,093 --> 01:47:35,013
Speaker 2: It's an attempt to shame men that finally get a

2230
01:47:35,093 --> 01:47:36,452
Speaker 2: chance to do what they've always wanted to do.

2231
01:47:36,572 --> 01:47:38,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, how good it is quarter to fall back in

2232
01:47:38,412 --> 01:47:38,972
Speaker 3: a minute.

2233
01:47:39,772 --> 01:47:42,133
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

2234
01:47:42,213 --> 01:47:45,612
Speaker 5: along the way. Matt Afternoons with Skoda.

2235
01:47:45,853 --> 01:47:48,572
Speaker 1: Please go to codes every day at Scoter dot co

2236
01:47:48,692 --> 01:47:52,012
Speaker 1: dot us talk say'd be very good afternoons.

2237
01:47:52,053 --> 01:47:54,852
Speaker 3: You were talking about midlife crises. Do they exist? There

2238
01:47:54,973 --> 01:47:57,572
Speaker 3: is one life one just big crisis. Love to hear

2239
01:47:57,612 --> 01:48:00,492
Speaker 3: from you. Nineteen nine two is a text for my fortieth.

2240
01:48:00,572 --> 01:48:04,732
Speaker 2: My wife bought me a motorcycle helmet Yay Triumph seven

2241
01:48:04,893 --> 01:48:07,052
Speaker 2: fifty Boneville followed.

2242
01:48:07,333 --> 01:48:11,612
Speaker 3: That's a good wife right now, and this is you know,

2243
01:48:13,612 --> 01:48:17,612
Speaker 3: most cycles are dangerous, very dangerous. Watch your life insurance policy,

2244
01:48:17,772 --> 01:48:22,372
Speaker 3: like always check that we've got to John get a John.

2245
01:48:23,253 --> 01:48:23,412
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2246
01:48:23,452 --> 01:48:25,213
Speaker 3: Gooday, guys, how are you very good?

2247
01:48:26,053 --> 01:48:26,293
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2248
01:48:26,333 --> 01:48:29,333
Speaker 8: Look at sponsors by Yoda. You guys might want to

2249
01:48:29,372 --> 01:48:31,052
Speaker 8: get an old Coda that that might.

2250
01:48:31,013 --> 01:48:32,253
Speaker 3: Be good break up.

2251
01:48:34,333 --> 01:48:34,492
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2252
01:48:34,572 --> 01:48:38,372
Speaker 8: Look, I've gone through Australia for many years and you know,

2253
01:48:38,933 --> 01:48:42,293
Speaker 8: saved my money, paid more super than anyone would hear it.

2254
01:48:42,853 --> 01:48:45,772
Speaker 8: And I never saw it as a crisis that I

2255
01:48:45,853 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 8: bought a crime bag. You know I've got I've got

2256
01:48:48,412 --> 01:48:50,652
Speaker 8: one a couple of years ago and it's been really good.

2257
01:48:50,812 --> 01:48:53,213
Speaker 8: I've always wanted it, but I've always wanted to know that.

2258
01:48:53,452 --> 01:48:56,253
Speaker 8: I've always told myself that it's not a crisis, but

2259
01:48:56,333 --> 01:49:00,652
Speaker 8: that's a milestone. You know, we go through life, we're

2260
01:49:00,652 --> 01:49:03,293
Speaker 8: a different milestone. People sort of put these labels on,

2261
01:49:03,532 --> 01:49:07,092
Speaker 8: like the seven year it or a mid life crisis

2262
01:49:07,173 --> 01:49:09,333
Speaker 8: and that. But I think we all us naturally get

2263
01:49:09,452 --> 01:49:12,732
Speaker 8: get into it something that we really think, you know,

2264
01:49:12,893 --> 01:49:14,012
Speaker 8: we want to achieve.

2265
01:49:14,133 --> 01:49:17,852
Speaker 2: You know, you as you always you know, had a

2266
01:49:17,933 --> 01:49:20,932
Speaker 2: soft spot for a triumph stag seeing them around.

2267
01:49:21,053 --> 01:49:25,772
Speaker 8: Yeah, the rules bit in my twenties line under cars

2268
01:49:25,812 --> 01:49:28,173
Speaker 8: with the brothers, you know that kind of thing. Soah,

2269
01:49:28,692 --> 01:49:30,412
Speaker 8: and you could I couldn't afford it, you know, my

2270
01:49:30,532 --> 01:49:32,812
Speaker 8: thirties because you know I was raising the border and

2271
01:49:33,652 --> 01:49:36,053
Speaker 8: priorities are different. But you get to a stage in

2272
01:49:36,133 --> 01:49:38,293
Speaker 8: your life when you think you want to sort of

2273
01:49:38,652 --> 01:49:39,093
Speaker 8: you want to.

2274
01:49:39,133 --> 01:49:40,732
Speaker 3: Hit that sort of goal, you know.

2275
01:49:41,013 --> 01:49:45,933
Speaker 8: And I've had a crisis as well in relationships and

2276
01:49:46,013 --> 01:49:50,293
Speaker 8: they're true crisis, but you know there's the acquisition of

2277
01:49:50,492 --> 01:49:53,852
Speaker 8: assets for things that you really enjoy. I don't see

2278
01:49:53,893 --> 01:49:57,572
Speaker 8: the as a crisis. It's just something that your your

2279
01:49:57,652 --> 01:49:58,612
Speaker 8: priorities change.

2280
01:49:58,652 --> 01:49:58,772
Speaker 14: You know.

2281
01:49:58,893 --> 01:50:02,012
Speaker 8: At my age now, my my focus is on help,

2282
01:50:02,213 --> 01:50:03,732
Speaker 8: you know, so we all need to sort of do

2283
01:50:03,973 --> 01:50:07,492
Speaker 8: things to not fall out of crisis. Study and improve me.

2284
01:50:08,013 --> 01:50:13,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So how often is your triumph stagging crisis?

2285
01:50:14,772 --> 01:50:14,812
Speaker 10: Not?

2286
01:50:15,053 --> 01:50:15,492
Speaker 16: Not often.

2287
01:50:15,572 --> 01:50:17,653
Speaker 8: I've just paid for a new overhaul.

2288
01:50:18,013 --> 01:50:22,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, years old, but yeah, what year is that? Because

2289
01:50:22,812 --> 01:50:24,612
Speaker 2: that they were they were only made in the in

2290
01:50:24,732 --> 01:50:28,452
Speaker 2: the mid seventies, right early the mid seventies, that's.

2291
01:50:28,412 --> 01:50:34,572
Speaker 8: Right, seventy four. Mine is now mark three leader who Yeah, yeah.

2292
01:50:34,973 --> 01:50:36,852
Speaker 2: But you've got you've got the ability to tinker with it.

2293
01:50:37,772 --> 01:50:40,093
Speaker 2: So that's that's it's true, which is to be a

2294
01:50:40,133 --> 01:50:41,092
Speaker 2: big part of it, right.

2295
01:50:42,053 --> 01:50:43,892
Speaker 8: It's all part of the joy, you know, and getting

2296
01:50:43,933 --> 01:50:46,933
Speaker 8: the carriage and stuff like that. So I like to

2297
01:50:47,213 --> 01:50:49,572
Speaker 8: encouraged men that we've had that sort of singing the

2298
01:50:49,652 --> 01:50:52,293
Speaker 8: back of their mind. If you're able to g set

2299
01:50:52,412 --> 01:50:54,012
Speaker 8: that goal and don't call it a crisis.

2300
01:50:54,213 --> 01:50:56,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if someone else calls it a crisis, who

2301
01:50:56,412 --> 01:50:58,612
Speaker 2: key is that? They can? They can they can call

2302
01:50:58,732 --> 01:51:01,572
Speaker 2: you onet. Yeah, you've got your you've got your you've

2303
01:51:01,612 --> 01:51:04,893
Speaker 2: got your dream Cara, and you're finally getting to do

2304
01:51:05,173 --> 01:51:06,892
Speaker 2: something you want to do. So screw them.

2305
01:51:06,933 --> 01:51:08,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, give them the middle finger and say get your

2306
01:51:08,893 --> 01:51:13,972
Speaker 3: own bike, your loser, that's right, Yeah, John, Uh.

2307
01:51:14,612 --> 01:51:17,173
Speaker 2: The stands not a bike. It's not a bike, it's

2308
01:51:17,213 --> 01:51:17,452
Speaker 2: a car.

2309
01:51:17,692 --> 01:51:20,092
Speaker 3: Oh that's why you didn't respond. There was a hesitation.

2310
01:51:20,572 --> 01:51:21,253
Speaker 2: What a loser?

2311
01:51:22,532 --> 01:51:25,173
Speaker 3: How awkward, Pete? Mates?

2312
01:51:26,853 --> 01:51:32,532
Speaker 8: Good, Yeah, might do something different from my mid life

2313
01:51:32,572 --> 01:51:33,772
Speaker 8: crisis in the Bible college.

2314
01:51:34,452 --> 01:51:36,093
Speaker 3: Bible College, that's new.

2315
01:51:37,133 --> 01:51:37,333
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2316
01:51:38,612 --> 01:51:39,532
Speaker 19: I also figured too.

2317
01:51:39,572 --> 01:51:41,013
Speaker 8: Once you get to an h and go from being

2318
01:51:41,053 --> 01:51:43,133
Speaker 8: a tennis ball to the top ball, you know't out

2319
01:51:43,133 --> 01:51:43,572
Speaker 8: to anymore.

2320
01:51:46,053 --> 01:51:48,652
Speaker 2: So did you did you find that you're you know,

2321
01:51:48,893 --> 01:51:52,093
Speaker 2: so you you you were searching for something spiritual and

2322
01:51:52,253 --> 01:51:53,932
Speaker 2: meaning meaning at this time in your life.

2323
01:51:54,732 --> 01:51:59,772
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that then just im just trying to work

2324
01:51:59,893 --> 01:52:03,053
Speaker 4: things out on what to do. Really yeah yeah, And and.

2325
01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:05,812
Speaker 2: Was that successful for you?

2326
01:52:06,812 --> 01:52:08,652
Speaker 8: It was because it made me invest in the young people.

2327
01:52:09,532 --> 01:52:12,852
Speaker 8: Stops you from being selfish really, so yeah, they are

2328
01:52:13,213 --> 01:52:15,973
Speaker 8: being able to just find a way to use the

2329
01:52:16,013 --> 01:52:17,452
Speaker 8: skills you've learned to help other people.

2330
01:52:17,732 --> 01:52:19,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, mate, Pete. That's a great one.

2331
01:52:20,053 --> 01:52:22,412
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the opposite of a crisis, that

2332
01:52:22,532 --> 01:52:24,532
Speaker 3: if you go and do something to them, be of

2333
01:52:24,732 --> 01:52:26,892
Speaker 3: service to other people, it's a fantastic thing.

2334
01:52:27,093 --> 01:52:30,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean people people often do you know, people

2335
01:52:30,372 --> 01:52:32,772
Speaker 2: always talk about the sort of materialistic mid life crisis

2336
01:52:33,053 --> 01:52:36,572
Speaker 2: crises that people have, But there's also something about you know,

2337
01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:41,253
Speaker 2: heading your your forties, fifties, sixties, where people become quite

2338
01:52:41,293 --> 01:52:46,572
Speaker 2: philosophical and they've experienced enough that they, you know, have

2339
01:52:46,652 --> 01:52:48,293
Speaker 2: a bit of a philosophy going on. They know which

2340
01:52:48,293 --> 01:52:50,173
Speaker 2: way they want to go, and they want to study

2341
01:52:50,213 --> 01:52:52,372
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff more. You can find more meaning

2342
01:52:52,412 --> 01:52:54,772
Speaker 2: in life. It's a beautiflays look at you. You're losing

2343
01:52:54,853 --> 01:52:56,572
Speaker 2: your here and you've got to You've got a bloody

2344
01:52:56,652 --> 01:53:01,333
Speaker 2: convertible and got twenty year old misses something like that.

2345
01:53:02,093 --> 01:53:03,893
Speaker 2: That's not what everyone's midlife crisis is.

2346
01:53:04,013 --> 01:53:05,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, right back, very shortly.

2347
01:53:05,732 --> 01:53:09,372
Speaker 1: It is seven or four the big stories, the big issues,

2348
01:53:09,612 --> 01:53:11,932
Speaker 1: the big trends, and everything in between.

2349
01:53:12,173 --> 01:53:15,412
Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talk said B.

2350
01:53:17,053 --> 01:53:17,772
Speaker 3: Four to four.

2351
01:53:18,093 --> 01:53:20,692
Speaker 2: Alright, that's quite enough of Tyler and I. We'll be

2352
01:53:20,853 --> 01:53:25,492
Speaker 2: back live tomorrow from lunchtime, so see you. Then up

2353
01:53:25,612 --> 01:53:29,612
Speaker 2: next the great and powerful Heather Duper c Allen. But Tyler,

2354
01:53:30,133 --> 01:53:32,572
Speaker 2: why am I playing the song by Faith No More? Shoo?

2355
01:53:34,013 --> 01:53:36,413
Speaker 3: Midlife crises crisis.

2356
01:53:36,893 --> 01:53:39,772
Speaker 2: It's a great time. Yeah, they've all been through their

2357
01:53:39,812 --> 01:53:43,772
Speaker 2: midlife crisis is crises Faith no more? All right, seeing

2358
01:53:43,812 --> 01:53:47,772
Speaker 2: busy will let you go until tomorrow, going to taste

2359
01:53:47,772 --> 01:53:48,492
Speaker 2: a kew we from our.

2360
01:53:48,492 --> 01:53:55,293
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