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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, you great Kiwi's just highly here because Maddie

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Speaker 2: But great show today, fantastic show today. Had a great

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Speaker 2: chat about tariffs for dummies and we got an expert

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Speaker 2: on to kind of tell us what the hell is

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Speaker 2: a tariff and what does it do and what does

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Speaker 2: it mean? It's ten percent that's going to be lumped

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Speaker 2: on everybody in New Zealand, so that was a great chat.

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Speaker 2: Then we did an hour about cannabis and that kind

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Speaker 2: Some very very interesting calls should we say over that hour,

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Speaker 2: and then we talked about beer gut, beer belly. Is

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Speaker 2: Which sounds like an oxyen war on, but turns out

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Love you as always. We will

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Speaker 1: Stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon, cheer, welcome into the show. It is

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Speaker 2: seven past one, get a mets, get a Tyler coming

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Speaker 2: to you from beautiful christ Church on a bit of

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Speaker 4: And it's still I love the city so much. It's

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Speaker 4: this morning, I was saying, you know what you feel

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Speaker 4: a city that's moving forward. A lot of cities in

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Speaker 4: being locked down for a ridiculously long amount of time

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Speaker 2: Love it dead to my heart. Christ jute and how

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Speaker 2: good is that studio? You look out to the beautiful

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Speaker 2: Margaret Mayhee. You just feel good being in that studio,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lovely time.

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Speaker 2: big show today alf to three o'clock. A great story

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Speaker 2: in the New Zealand Herald. The headline is the science

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Speaker 2: cutting exactly. It is an in depth article, but I

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Speaker 2: think the conclusion is pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 4: Mat Yeah, sadly, when you strip back everything else and

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Speaker 4: all the little things you can do with exercise, if

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Speaker 4: you really want to lose that gut, you've got to

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Speaker 4: drinking is really fun, yep. But if you actually want

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Speaker 4: cut down, you know, because it affects you sleep, and

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Speaker 4: sleep is a huge part of weight loss. If you're

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Speaker 4: But alcohol, you drop it, you lose weight. Are you

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Speaker 2: the world and it certainly has, isn't it, Matt?

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Speaker 2: that after talk clop. But right now, the biggest story

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Speaker 5: Yes, hello to you.

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Speaker 4: Now, Stephen. Very basically, because a lot of people, I

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Speaker 4: don't think understand tariff's at all. For people who might

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Speaker 4: Where are they applied, who pays for them, and where

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Speaker 5: So, when New Zealand exports a product to the United States,

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Speaker 5: It's paid by the importer, and the importer generally passes

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Speaker 4: Now, we hear a lot about the negative parts of

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Speaker 5: Well, if you read through the nine pages or so

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Speaker 5: quite a lot of justification for this, primarily because he

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Speaker 4: Because you can see it if you had a company

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Speaker 5: Of course, that's not quite the way it works, because

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Speaker 5: In fact, parts flow back and forth across the border

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Speaker 5: And then the motor vehicle example is pretty much the

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Speaker 4: But some car manufacturers have moved their plants out of

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Speaker 5: They have moved part of the manufacturing process out of

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Speaker 4: So that hasn't been responsible for the losses and jobs

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess President Trump would argue that it has,

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Speaker 2: and I understand some countries have had this applied to

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Speaker 2: websites to a private individual. Currently they can import US

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's called a demnimous transaction. And this is in

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Steven Jacobe, former diplomat and trade experts

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Speaker 4: from a New Zealand perspective, how much does our low

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Speaker 5: You know, to a certain extent, that's right, you know,

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Speaker 5: appreciation depreciation and the dollar which moves around can offset

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Speaker 5: So and of course a lot of our exports have

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Speaker 5: some cases we do pay a tariff, generally not a

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Speaker 5: pain will be felt differently across different sectors. And the

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Speaker 5: other aspect to bear in mind is that some of

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Speaker 5: our competitors in the US market are being taxed more

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Speaker 5: than US. So, for example, the European Union is being

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Speaker 2: Example, as it's the importer that pays the tariff. Steve

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Speaker 2: the no New Zealand export is likely to drop the

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Speaker 2: export prices to compensate the importer or is it a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well this is this is I mean, both is

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Speaker 5: probably correct. Some exporters will want to help their you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, because of course, you know, one big factor

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Speaker 5: Right, that's right. They haven't implemented their undertakings to us

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Speaker 5: Well. The Executive Order says that makes clear that yes,

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Speaker 5: But bear in mind, you know, having said that, and

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Speaker 4: Why did they go They went to Cambodia pretty hard

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Speaker 5: For percent, I mean for a least developed economy like Cambodia.

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Speaker 2: That much, Stephen, fascinating times and thank you very much

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Speaker 5: You're very welcome more to watch in this space.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely there is that is Stephen Jacoby, Executive director of

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Speaker 4: Or do you feel just that they're justified and do

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Speaker 2: That'd be good. Afternoon. It is twenty six past one,

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Speaker 2: and we're talking about the tariffs imposed on New Zealand

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think people are quite terrified because they hear

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Speaker 4: That's why they're doing it. And you know, but sometimes

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Speaker 4: The reality is that companies operate in a global context

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Speaker 2: And this text says, guys, I disagree America rips off

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Speaker 4: At least we' around ten percent and not some of

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Speaker 2: Exactly, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: about these tariffs. It is twenty eight pass one, putting the.

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump, for reasons that allude me, he doesn't understand tariffs.

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Speaker 7: Economics Professor Douglas ruins with us. Don't know if you

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Speaker 7: realize this, Douglas, in nineteen eighty two eighty three, we

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Speaker 7: How does it get explained to the American people?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to feel it very soon

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Speaker 6: We talked about Liberation Days, some other people are calling

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Speaker 3: And with twenty five percent tariffs on cars, that's going

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Speaker 6: It's just going to cost Americans a lot back.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, and we are being we are talking about

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Speaker 2: what has been called Liberation Day in the US. Tariff's

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Speaker 8: It's just a couple of things I want to raise

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Speaker 8: he's doing tax free on those vehicles. So he's encouraging

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Speaker 8: how we bring back those jobs. Now, I look at

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Speaker 8: it the way that Trump's doing it. He's trying to

438
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Speaker 8: bring those manufacturers back to America to build businesses there

439
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Speaker 8: and make it more attractive, either by subsidies or offer

440
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Speaker 8: their offering them some other type of package to bring

441
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Speaker 8: those jobs back to America. Now I think about it

442
00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:16,373
Speaker 8: and what we're doing here. Now we've got Sleepy Head

443
00:23:16,613 --> 00:23:20,053
Speaker 8: in the Waycadow trying to build this big factory and

444
00:23:20,413 --> 00:23:22,213
Speaker 8: of course obviously a lot of homes and a new

445
00:23:22,293 --> 00:23:26,493
Speaker 8: town effectively to help them with their growth. Now, they're

446
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Speaker 8: a company that's made a big ift to stay in

447
00:23:28,453 --> 00:23:30,413
Speaker 8: New Zealand. They could have easily done what a lot

448
00:23:30,413 --> 00:23:32,773
Speaker 8: of the others wander and massport whatever it might be,

449
00:23:33,693 --> 00:23:37,493
Speaker 8: and go overseas official and pickle. But they're trying to

450
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Speaker 8: work in New Zealand and work with New Zealand government

451
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Speaker 8: and local government. I guess to try to build what

452
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Speaker 8: they're trying to build. Then we need to encourage more

453
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Speaker 8: of that investment. Now, how do we go about doing that?

454
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Speaker 8: Is that stopping now Achine and Team who are a

455
00:23:51,813 --> 00:23:53,933
Speaker 8: massive problem in New Zealand because people just go buy

456
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Speaker 8: it over there.

457
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Speaker 9: Now, imagine if we text all those.

458
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Speaker 8: Products and said, hey, let's bring back manufacturing. Let's make

459
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Speaker 8: subs that have put subsidies in place for these companies

460
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Speaker 8: to encourage them to invest in New Zealand, to employ

461
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Speaker 8: people and to grow our economy. And also what that

462
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Speaker 8: or so in some regards does is makes us less

463
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Speaker 8: vulnerable to the international market and trade routes. They say

464
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Speaker 8: there's a war tomorrow, all of a sudden, we can't

465
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Speaker 8: get petrol because we get trade blocked. We can't get

466
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Speaker 8: anything into our country because we're so relying, so reliant

467
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Speaker 8: on the international market and free trade deals. I don't

468
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Speaker 8: know personally much about free trade, but all I've seen

469
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Speaker 8: free trade do in mind forty five years of existence

470
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Speaker 8: is see jobs leave our country exporting. We do great

471
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Speaker 8: with selling lamb, but they're going to buy that anyway,

472
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Speaker 8: in my opinion, because we do such a great job

473
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Speaker 8: of that, you know, and all the dairy products and

474
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Speaker 8: all the other things. All I've seen is meatworks shut,

475
00:24:48,813 --> 00:24:52,933
Speaker 8: pulp mills shut, manufacturing, automobiles shut. I've seen everything shut.

476
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Speaker 8: We've all seen it. We need to try and do

477
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Speaker 8: a different thing. I think to be honest, I.

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Speaker 4: Think the problem Scott is it's a bit of a

479
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Speaker 4: catch twenty two situation, isn't it. We're an exporting nation,

480
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Speaker 4: so we have gone all in on that. We went

481
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Speaker 4: all in on that with the Longy government back in

482
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Speaker 4: the early eighties because we were in a terrible state

483
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Speaker 4: when we were running protectionist economy, so we went all

484
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Speaker 4: in on opening things up. And the fear would be

485
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Speaker 4: if we start massively putting, you know, tariffs on stuff

486
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Speaker 4: coming in from China, then they're just going to go, Okay, nah,

487
00:25:26,773 --> 00:25:30,213
Speaker 4: we're not taking your you, We're not taking your dairy anymore.

488
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Speaker 4: You see what I mean. We're in this interesting situation

489
00:25:32,453 --> 00:25:35,613
Speaker 4: where we're getting gutted of them from our manufacturing, and

490
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Speaker 4: we're choosing to do that in favor of focusing heavily

491
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Speaker 4: on being able to expert our primary resources.

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Speaker 2: Oh we just lost Scott. We'll try and get them back,

493
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Speaker 2: but just we tend to get your views as well

494
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Speaker 2: at one hundred and eighty ten eighty in the teach

495
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Speaker 2: number if you want to send a tex nine to

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Speaker 2: nine two. But we'll try and get Scott back. Headlines

497
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Speaker 2: with Raylene coming up, it's twenty five to two.

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Speaker 10: News talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble tax. It's

499
00:26:03,853 --> 00:26:06,973
Speaker 10: no trouble with a blue bubble. Our government is asking

500
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Speaker 10: the US for more details on its new import terraffs

501
00:26:10,173 --> 00:26:13,373
Speaker 10: for New Zealand, matching many to be imposed on countries

502
00:26:13,453 --> 00:26:17,093
Speaker 10: around the world at ten percent its claim. New Zealand

503
00:26:17,133 --> 00:26:20,613
Speaker 10: is already charging the US twenty percent tariffs, a figure

504
00:26:20,653 --> 00:26:24,373
Speaker 10: in fact sitting below two percent. A month's worth of

505
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Speaker 10: rain is expected to fall on parts at the top

506
00:26:26,733 --> 00:26:29,613
Speaker 10: of the South Island over the next twenty four hours.

507
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Speaker 10: An orange heavy rain warning applies until midday tomorrow. The

508
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Speaker 10: Tasman Buller and Marlborough two Auckland police officers have been

509
00:26:38,213 --> 00:26:41,573
Speaker 10: found to have unjustly arrested people who began filming them

510
00:26:41,573 --> 00:26:46,733
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two and used excessive force by pushing one.

511
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Speaker 10: Details about a fatal capsize of a charter boat off

512
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Speaker 10: Kaikoder in twenty twenty two are being revealed today. Five

513
00:26:54,693 --> 00:26:58,093
Speaker 10: people died trapped under the vessel after being exposed to

514
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Speaker 10: petrol fumes. Hamilton's in line for a twenty five story

515
00:27:02,133 --> 00:27:05,333
Speaker 10: development in the CBD on Victoria Street, with a land

516
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Speaker 10: agreement signed up. Stumbling block Takeovers Panel issues draft ruling

517
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Speaker 10: on Jim Grennan's injed me board bid. You can find

518
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Speaker 10: out more at incid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Ethan

519
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Speaker 10: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan, and we got Scott back.

521
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Speaker 2: It's good to get you back, Scott, because we want

522
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Speaker 2: to pick back up on what you were saying and

523
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Speaker 2: the question Matt put to you. But just to pick

524
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Speaker 2: up where we left off. Effectively, you were you could

525
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Speaker 2: see the justification of what America is doing here and

526
00:27:33,613 --> 00:27:36,173
Speaker 2: whether we should be employing what a similar strategy to

527
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Speaker 2: protect jobs that we used to have in New Zealand.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well it's similar along those lines. Yes, I think

529
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Speaker 8: what we've got as we are worried about what leavl

530
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Speaker 8: China may may do to us. For example, if we

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Speaker 8: decided tomorrow that your Temo products now cost twenty five

532
00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:54,413
Speaker 8: percent by the way, I don't think that would stop

533
00:27:54,413 --> 00:27:59,333
Speaker 8: anyone from buying anything from Temu. But I just think

534
00:27:59,373 --> 00:28:01,893
Speaker 8: that we need to look at how we can generate

535
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Speaker 8: more wealth using New Zealand people to do the work.

536
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Speaker 8: And I believe that we have a product that the

537
00:28:08,613 --> 00:28:11,133
Speaker 8: world would want to have if we were building them here.

538
00:28:11,133 --> 00:28:13,453
Speaker 8: In New Zealand and then selling them. So even just

539
00:28:13,453 --> 00:28:16,373
Speaker 8: the local market and the international market, but also I

540
00:28:16,373 --> 00:28:19,893
Speaker 8: think there's a bigger picture here holistically. I guess you

541
00:28:19,933 --> 00:28:24,093
Speaker 8: would say to how our country generates more wealth, so

542
00:28:24,173 --> 00:28:31,213
Speaker 8: we're not so I guess dependent on trade from international buyers.

543
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Speaker 8: We need to look at the way that we look

544
00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:35,693
Speaker 8: at view more will and gas and coal and a

545
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Speaker 8: few other things. For example, we only gained two percent

546
00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:42,853
Speaker 8: royalties I'm pretty sure that's correct and oil and gas

547
00:28:42,853 --> 00:28:46,253
Speaker 8: in New Zealand, whereas other countries are fourteen. Others are

548
00:28:46,253 --> 00:28:50,053
Speaker 8: even higher, you know, eighty nine percent the guitar. I mean,

549
00:28:50,213 --> 00:28:52,813
Speaker 8: we've really got I know, we say we're a small nation,

550
00:28:52,973 --> 00:28:55,253
Speaker 8: but we actually have a lot to offer the entire

551
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Speaker 8: world in what we have.

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Speaker 5: In our country.

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Speaker 8: I just think we need to have a better look

554
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Speaker 8: at how we generate our wealth in this country and

555
00:29:02,333 --> 00:29:04,733
Speaker 8: how we look after our middle class people.

556
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Speaker 4: I mean that we were like that once, but I

557
00:29:08,373 --> 00:29:12,173
Speaker 4: would agree Scott, but it's such a delicate balancing act

558
00:29:12,213 --> 00:29:15,213
Speaker 4: because you would have to select manufacturing that we can do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you take the Kiwi Trekker, our attempt at

560
00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:23,053
Speaker 4: making a car that you know, if you focused on

561
00:29:23,213 --> 00:29:25,293
Speaker 4: us just being as a very small economy being in

562
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Speaker 4: charge of our manufacturing in that area. It wouldn't go well.

563
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Speaker 4: And when you pick and choose as a tiny little country,

564
00:29:31,133 --> 00:29:33,413
Speaker 4: if we try to pick and choose what we protect

565
00:29:33,453 --> 00:29:37,693
Speaker 4: and what we don't, then we're open to larger countries

566
00:29:37,813 --> 00:29:40,453
Speaker 4: just you know, putting a stroke of pen through their

567
00:29:40,493 --> 00:29:43,653
Speaker 4: budget and going New Zealand's too difficult to deal with.

568
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Speaker 4: We don't want to have any of it. And you know,

569
00:29:46,933 --> 00:29:50,293
Speaker 4: we had. We were a very very closed economy for

570
00:29:50,333 --> 00:29:53,013
Speaker 4: a very long time. We were just selling our lamb

571
00:29:53,053 --> 00:29:55,413
Speaker 4: to the UK and making a whole lot of money.

572
00:29:55,573 --> 00:29:59,253
Speaker 4: But in the seventies sixties it was very very hard

573
00:29:59,293 --> 00:30:01,893
Speaker 4: to even get a car into New Zealand. You and

574
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,453
Speaker 4: we were paying huge tariffs on cars into New Zealand.

575
00:30:04,653 --> 00:30:07,213
Speaker 4: And until you know, Rogernomics in the eighties when the

576
00:30:07,213 --> 00:30:10,373
Speaker 4: country opened up, and the modern country that we enjoy

577
00:30:10,493 --> 00:30:15,813
Speaker 4: now with the big screen televisions and the products that

578
00:30:15,853 --> 00:30:19,493
Speaker 4: we have is very much a result of us opening

579
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Speaker 4: up the economy and not subsidizing manufacturers and farmings to

580
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Speaker 4: the same degree.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I believe that's exposed us to an extent

582
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Speaker 8: to whatever happens in the global economy. So if there's

583
00:30:34,173 --> 00:30:36,213
Speaker 8: a ripple in China where they're not spending money all

584
00:30:36,253 --> 00:30:39,173
Speaker 8: of a sudden, now we're not making any money anymore.

585
00:30:38,973 --> 00:30:42,333
Speaker 8: We're not looking in enough to how we can look

586
00:30:42,373 --> 00:30:45,453
Speaker 8: after ourselves as opposed to making the rest of the

587
00:30:45,453 --> 00:30:48,213
Speaker 8: world look after us. I think we need to have

588
00:30:48,253 --> 00:30:50,533
Speaker 8: a really really good look at how we do this

589
00:30:50,613 --> 00:30:54,813
Speaker 8: going forward, because we're carrying huge debt, obviously off the

590
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,933
Speaker 8: back of COVID. We need to look at how we

591
00:30:57,973 --> 00:31:01,493
Speaker 8: can as a country offer something more than what we

592
00:31:01,533 --> 00:31:04,733
Speaker 8: are now to get ourselves out of this. I'm doing

593
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Speaker 8: the same in regards to his getting rid of his

594
00:31:07,693 --> 00:31:10,133
Speaker 8: what is it like thirty what is it?

595
00:31:10,373 --> 00:31:10,533
Speaker 5: Sorry?

596
00:31:10,573 --> 00:31:11,773
Speaker 8: What is their deficit?

597
00:31:11,813 --> 00:31:12,253
Speaker 6: It's huge?

598
00:31:13,773 --> 00:31:15,733
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, brilliant, thirty thirty trillion?

599
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Speaker 8: I believe, yeah, I mean it's just staggering. Now. If

600
00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:22,013
Speaker 8: they keep doing the same things as previous governments have done,

601
00:31:22,133 --> 00:31:24,093
Speaker 8: they're never going to get rid of it, and I

602
00:31:24,173 --> 00:31:27,533
Speaker 8: believe the Western world will collapse. So they've got to

603
00:31:27,573 --> 00:31:32,453
Speaker 8: try something different. It's bold, it may upset some, but

604
00:31:32,653 --> 00:31:35,613
Speaker 8: he's got to try. And don't forget nineteen thirteen, that

605
00:31:35,733 --> 00:31:37,933
Speaker 8: was when the first income tax was put on people.

606
00:31:37,933 --> 00:31:39,213
Speaker 11: I think it was two percent.

607
00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:41,653
Speaker 8: To help with the war. Before it was all tariffs,

608
00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:43,613
Speaker 8: so across the world that was tariff. He z Illan

609
00:31:43,653 --> 00:31:46,373
Speaker 8: doesn't even have an incompax. So we've got to look

610
00:31:46,413 --> 00:31:48,773
Speaker 8: at how we can change the way the model that

611
00:31:48,813 --> 00:31:50,853
Speaker 8: we're doing. I see Massachusetts now it does not have

612
00:31:50,893 --> 00:31:54,653
Speaker 8: an income tax. So whatever it might be, give it

613
00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:57,013
Speaker 8: a go. If it doesn't work, we can always go

614
00:31:57,133 --> 00:31:59,053
Speaker 8: back to the same way we were doing things before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you call Scott cheers Scott, whether

616
00:32:01,893 --> 00:32:03,573
Speaker 2: look this is true or not, this is certainly what

617
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Speaker 2: I've heard anecdotally from some friends in Canada and their

618
00:32:06,933 --> 00:32:10,293
Speaker 2: produce and meat crap over in Canada by and large,

619
00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:13,613
Speaker 2: so they love New Zealand meat and New Zealand fruit

620
00:32:13,693 --> 00:32:16,493
Speaker 2: vig if they can get it effectively. They said, you

621
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Speaker 2: charge what you want for a New Zealand product, and

622
00:32:18,453 --> 00:32:21,133
Speaker 2: Canadians will pay for it, similar to the US and

623
00:32:21,173 --> 00:32:23,373
Speaker 2: similar to parts of Europe as well. So that puts

624
00:32:23,453 --> 00:32:26,453
Speaker 2: US in a good position. So hopefully where you know,

625
00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:30,413
Speaker 2: the importers will wear that and the people of Canada

626
00:32:30,453 --> 00:32:32,733
Speaker 2: and the US and Europe will just pay that money.

627
00:32:32,773 --> 00:32:34,773
Speaker 2: That's what we're all hoping right, but I think New

628
00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:37,413
Speaker 2: Zealand may be in a good position for those products.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you something that I've got that's pretty cool.

630
00:32:39,733 --> 00:32:43,253
Speaker 4: It's a turntable that was manufactured in New Zealand in

631
00:32:43,293 --> 00:32:46,933
Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties. I bought it and I'll tell you

632
00:32:46,973 --> 00:32:50,893
Speaker 4: what that looks like. It was manufactured in the eighteen nineties.

633
00:32:52,533 --> 00:32:55,133
Speaker 4: We were of quite a backward country. People would come

634
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:57,093
Speaker 4: here and the joke was, you go back in time

635
00:32:57,173 --> 00:32:59,173
Speaker 4: forty years when you get off the plane in New

636
00:32:59,213 --> 00:33:02,933
Speaker 4: Zealand because we were so restrictive of our imports into

637
00:33:02,933 --> 00:33:06,093
Speaker 4: the country until the eighties when we opened up. So

638
00:33:06,293 --> 00:33:09,133
Speaker 4: you know, you can have an isolated country. You might have,

639
00:33:09,933 --> 00:33:13,373
Speaker 4: you know, wealth of a kind, but you end up

640
00:33:13,613 --> 00:33:18,653
Speaker 4: missing out on a lot of the technological advancements and

641
00:33:18,853 --> 00:33:22,213
Speaker 4: the and the products that people enjoy around the world.

642
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Speaker 2: You know, absolutely. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

643
00:33:24,773 --> 00:33:27,013
Speaker 2: the number to call love to hear your thoughts on

644
00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:30,413
Speaker 2: the tariffs that have been imposed on New Zealand ten

645
00:33:30,453 --> 00:33:33,053
Speaker 2: percent baseline across the board. If you're any exporting, how

646
00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:35,333
Speaker 2: are you feeling right now? Really keen to get your thoughts.

647
00:33:35,693 --> 00:33:39,693
Speaker 2: It is a quarter to two mix.

648
00:33:39,773 --> 00:33:41,773
Speaker 4: Here is what a win for New Zealand. US importers

649
00:33:41,773 --> 00:33:43,973
Speaker 4: looking for quality products will naturally go for New Zealand

650
00:33:44,013 --> 00:33:46,413
Speaker 4: with the lowest tariffs. US importers will buy our product.

651
00:33:46,493 --> 00:33:48,453
Speaker 4: Hand over fist is positive.

652
00:33:48,613 --> 00:33:51,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it. It is quarter to two. Back very

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Speaker 2: shortly here on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons

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Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon. We're talking about the US tariffs. Eight

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Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty call.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about Robert Rogenomics in terms of how

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Speaker 4: it opened up the country. I've talked about this before.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a band called the Pretty Things that

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Speaker 4: came to New Zealand in the ninety sixties and talked

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Speaker 4: about how they were going back in time because we

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Speaker 4: were so shut off at the time. We were a

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Speaker 4: very wealthy country perhead of population, but we didn't have

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Speaker 4: a lot of cool stuff. This text of Logan one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent disagrees with me. Rogeromics killed this country and

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Speaker 4: the tens of thousands of jobs in manufacturer and we

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Speaker 4: had disappeared. We made cars, electronics, and appliances very proudly

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Speaker 4: my Panasonic TV is the last of the New Zealand

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Speaker 4: made ones to be made by Fisher and Pikel in

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine. Cheers Logan, Thanks for your text. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean we were assembling a lot of stuff over here,

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Speaker 4: that's for sure, assembling cars, the Trekker, even the Trekker,

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Speaker 4: the Kiwi trecker that was made. I think was that

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Speaker 4: on the A Was it a Scoda base? I want

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Speaker 4: to be able to tell me what the what the

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Speaker 4: Kiwi Treker was built upon. Very rude car, the Kiwi Tricker.

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Speaker 4: It was quite ray, very squizy, very very uncol I

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Speaker 4: found an entire Kiwi Tricker abandoned under the one of

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Speaker 4: the sheds the farm I grew up on and cleeck

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Speaker 4: with the badge, but you know, I didn't know how

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Speaker 4: to put it back together.

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Speaker 2: That's a great vine. One hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is the number to called get a Edwards.

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Speaker 12: Ah, Hi, guys, how are you very good?

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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on the terrace?

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Speaker 11: Not so much the challenge, but just your last call

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Speaker 11: in and talk about rogenomics and you know, destroying manufacturing

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Speaker 11: will just coming to playwood and that we grow trees faster,

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Speaker 11: or pine trees faster, and Nelson and film anywhere else

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Speaker 11: in the world of Siberia. Now, we used to be

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Speaker 11: able to manufacture and finish stuff out of our wood.

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Speaker 11: We stopped that under oatonomics. There was an article in

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Speaker 11: The Economist at the beginning of the year talking about

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Speaker 11: eighty percent of our loves go to China. So China

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Speaker 11: built to play manufacturing plants on the ports that New

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Speaker 11: Zealand wood lands on. They then take it off the

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Speaker 11: ship make play with At that point, they put it

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Speaker 11: back on the ship and they explot it to the US,

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Speaker 11: Canada and the UK out of our wood, and they

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Speaker 11: make hundreds of billions of dollars a year. For my

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Speaker 11: call is simply, you know, to back up what he

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Speaker 11: was saying, But how can we go back to that?

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Speaker 11: And I think there's there will probably be taxpayer agreement

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Speaker 11: that we could invest in making fly with here again,

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Speaker 11: putting taxpayer funds into manufacturing again to avoid all these tables.

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Speaker 11: Is selling straight into the markets instead of sending our

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Speaker 11: wood and making fly with and China making all the money.

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Speaker 11: So there there's options, right, which.

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Speaker 4: Business would you pick? Because currently we're a very free

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Speaker 4: market economy. That's the way we've decided to go. Are

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Speaker 4: you saying that you would like to just move the

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Speaker 4: balance a little bit towards the government supporting manufacturing in

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Speaker 4: which industries and that just particularly the plywood industry or

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Speaker 4: across multiple industries.

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Speaker 11: It's just one example. It's got nothing to do with

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Speaker 11: free trade because we've got to three free trade.

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Speaker 12: Agreement at the moment with China. But if we manufacture

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Speaker 12: ply here out of the wood that we grow here

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Speaker 12: and send it to the markets that they are sending it,

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Speaker 12: so our logs go there, they make ply, and then

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Speaker 12: they send it on so they're finishing. We're giving them

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Speaker 12: a raw product from this country and making a long

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Speaker 12: lot of money out of pine here.

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Speaker 11: We've got a big uproll at the moment about our

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Speaker 11: farming going into pine. But if people are planting pine

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Speaker 11: for ets, then we could use that pine, we could

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Speaker 11: finish that pine into something like ply, and we could

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Speaker 11: deliver it to the markets that are buying off China.

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Speaker 11: That doesn't affect our free trade agreement. It just means

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Speaker 11: that we're manufacturing here and it doesn't necessarily need to

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Speaker 11: be all taxpayer. It can be a private partnership with

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Speaker 11: it wors government. I just wonder whether we need to

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Speaker 11: look at something like that. China are making hundreds of

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Speaker 11: billions off of the year, I would because start finishing it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because Fontira was always doing this situation

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Speaker 4: and they're looking at it right now where we have

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Speaker 4: our primary products and then we have value adding businesses.

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Speaker 4: But we tend to do it for a while and

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Speaker 4: then just sell it off because we well, Fontira doesn't

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Speaker 4: think that's its called business or that it's that's brilliant,

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Speaker 4: brilliant doing it. But from a New Zealand perspective, we

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Speaker 4: love the idea of being able to use our primary

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Speaker 4: products and make them superior and sell them overseas for more.

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Speaker 4: We love that idea. We just don't do something to

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Speaker 4: do it as much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Edward, thank you very much. It is seven to two.

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Speaker 1: Back very shortly, Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor Afternoons

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Speaker 1: News Talk z.

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Speaker 2: EDB News Talks, zed B right, a couple of texts

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Speaker 2: to wrap this up to the news and it's been

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Speaker 2: a fascinating discussion. This sticks to sees. Guys, don't forget

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Speaker 2: in the days when Britain joined the Common market now

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Speaker 2: is the EU, and we could not sell our butter

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Speaker 2: into Britain. We went looking for other markets. That's how

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Speaker 2: we ended up selling bit of a Butter rather to Russia.

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Speaker 2: But we had to buy the dreadful letters as well

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Speaker 2: from Chris. I don't know Russian letters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. I was talking about the Kiwi trek Or,

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Speaker 4: a car made in New Zealand based on the Skoda Octavia.

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Speaker 4: A very strange car. But someone here says, Matt, I

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Speaker 4: got passed by a Trekker going up the rum Attukas

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Speaker 4: a while ago. Turns out we had a turbo charge

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Speaker 4: Subaru engine in it. Still ugly though, Henry. Ah. So

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Speaker 4: someone someone souped up their Trekker. I'd like to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it what was a great car, wasn't it? Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean maybe that's why we didn't sell

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Speaker 2: it a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: It looks so like a milk float. Very uncool, Chessie Brady.

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Speaker 4: We did make it in New Zealand exactly briefly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good chat, thank you very much. Right, coming up

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Speaker 2: very shortly, we're going to have a chat about Minecraft.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: number to call if you're into your Minecraft, new sport

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Speaker 2: and weather on it's way. Grew Company is.

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Speaker 6: Always talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons us talks.

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Speaker 2: Be good afternoon, welcome back into the show. I hope

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Speaker 2: you're having a great afternoon. Thank you for your company

782
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Speaker 2: as always. Now, just a reminder you're broadcasting out of

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Speaker 2: christ Churchmith.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. What a toxy turvy world we live in.

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Speaker 4: When you're in Auckland Roam and you're beloved christ.

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Speaker 2: Church technology A. It is a beautiful thing. Now you

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Speaker 2: were down there for.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't when we started the show. It was a

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Speaker 4: terrible thing when I wasn't on air due to some

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Speaker 4: kind of era up at your end.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, it smells a bit nicer in this

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Speaker 2: studio today. I don't don't know why. Let's not relitigate

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Speaker 2: that time now, mate, you were down there for a

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Speaker 2: speaking event and I believe this is at Tootunger the

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Speaker 2: christ Church Library on tonight at six pm to seven pm,

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Speaker 2: where you will be talking about your book and speaking

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Speaker 2: to an adventurer who's going to be leading the Q

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Speaker 2: and A. But they have released a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: tickets sold out, but they've just released a few more tickets.

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Speaker 4: Is that right, Yeah, that's right. And when you say

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Speaker 4: sold out, it is free, but you have to register.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So if you want to go see Matt have

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Speaker 2: a chat about his book, it is. If you go

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Speaker 2: to the two ding A website and go to the

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Speaker 2: what's on page, you can register for free, and you

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Speaker 2: can also go to Humanitics, but it will be well

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Speaker 2: worth going there and having a chat. And hey, if

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Speaker 2: you've got one of his books, bring it a little

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Speaker 2: bit early and he we even sign it for you,

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Speaker 2: won't you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, five point thirty I'm signing books. Actually, if you don't,

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Speaker 4: you can buy a copy and I'll sign that as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeahright, lifeless punishing.

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Speaker 4: The book tour continues a year in nearly since the

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Speaker 4: book came out.

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Speaker 2: Well, it gives you to christ Uge and that is

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Speaker 2: a fantastic city.

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Speaker 5: We all know that.

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Speaker 4: Just in case you didn't know, Tyler, the sixth edition

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Speaker 4: of my book was just released. The sixth edition is

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Speaker 4: out now, well done, sexy, thank you, very good all right,

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Speaker 4: but it's not about me, Tyler. It's about it's about

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Speaker 4: cannabis growing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about cannabis growing as well. Now, just quickly

825
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Speaker 2: before we get to the cannabis growing, a reminder that

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Speaker 2: this will be the final opportunity to get into the

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Speaker 2: drawer for the ultimate prize. This is a return flight

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Speaker 2: for four to new A, seven nights for four in

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Speaker 2: two deluxe rooms, including daily breakfast, choice of either a

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Speaker 2: one day fishing charter for four or a day's dive

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Speaker 2: Snorklean charter, seven day vehicle rental, and an island to

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Speaker 2: a all thanks to beautiful New Way Island. It is

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Speaker 2: a phenomenal price.

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Speaker 4: Did you know that Time magazine named New A as

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Speaker 4: the place to visit in twenty twenty five in their

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Speaker 4: global destinations list. I did not own my island. Well,

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Speaker 4: only Ireland mentioned in Time magazine as a global place

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Speaker 4: to visit in twenty twenty five. There you go, Time Magazine.

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Speaker 2: I did laughs new A and rightly so yeah, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me though, beautiful island. So here's how it's

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Speaker 2: gonna work. We are, Well, you're gonna have to listen

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Speaker 2: out for the cuter call. You'll know it when you

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Speaker 2: hear at some stage in the next two hours. Once

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Speaker 2: you hear that call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

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Speaker 2: the first one through, we will put a question to

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Speaker 2: you and if you get that question right within five seconds,

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Speaker 2: you get an instant five hundred bucks cash and go

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Speaker 2: into the drawer for that grand prize and for anybody

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Speaker 2: else listening. Once you get the answer, you just head

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Speaker 2: over to newstalk SB dot co dot nz slash adventure

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Speaker 2: and put in the answer to go into the drawer

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Speaker 2: and we will announce the lucky winner tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what a prize it is to fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Let's have a chat about cannabis. So this

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Speaker 2: is on the back of a cannabis sting in Three

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Speaker 2: Kings in Auckland. So they raided a large cannabis grown

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Speaker 2: operation in the central Auckland suburb and a police spokesman

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Speaker 2: said the operation was found at an industrial property. The

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Speaker 2: Quota's police have been at the car Road address since

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Speaker 2: late morning and inquiries ongoing this afternoon. So police have

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Speaker 2: remained at the address and a photographer at the scene

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Speaker 2: said the sense of cannabis at the site was incredibly

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Speaker 2: potent and could be smelled from a nearby motorway. That's

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Speaker 2: probably what gave it away.

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Speaker 4: It is stinky stuff that cannabis, isn't it. But my

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Speaker 4: question on this when I read this story, I thought,

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Speaker 4: are we still doing this? Are we still busting cannabis

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Speaker 4: growing operations? Is that where we want our resources being spent?

869
00:44:18,533 --> 00:44:21,373
Speaker 4: Because it's very easy to sign up to medical marijuana.

870
00:44:21,413 --> 00:44:23,653
Speaker 4: I know a number of people that are taking medical

871
00:44:24,493 --> 00:44:29,093
Speaker 4: medical marijuana. Dozens of states across the United States have

872
00:44:29,653 --> 00:44:31,933
Speaker 4: legalized it. It just seems that the trend in the

873
00:44:31,933 --> 00:44:37,573
Speaker 4: world is towards are not worrying so much about cannabis.

874
00:44:38,013 --> 00:44:41,493
Speaker 4: So do we want police to be deploying their resources

875
00:44:41,533 --> 00:44:44,172
Speaker 4: into busting up cannabis operations or do we want them

876
00:44:44,173 --> 00:44:47,173
Speaker 4: to be laser focused on the dirty myth epidemic in

877
00:44:47,173 --> 00:44:49,693
Speaker 4: this country? Because there's no doubt that we have a

878
00:44:49,773 --> 00:44:52,773
Speaker 4: huge problem with myth, and myth is an evil. It

879
00:44:52,813 --> 00:44:57,013
Speaker 4: does nothing good in society that there's no justification for

880
00:44:57,333 --> 00:45:01,453
Speaker 4: myth out there. So should the police be smashing up

881
00:45:01,453 --> 00:45:04,373
Speaker 4: myth labs as hard as they can and maybe just

882
00:45:04,733 --> 00:45:08,533
Speaker 4: driving past the stanky, old large cannabis growing operation and

883
00:45:08,813 --> 00:45:09,573
Speaker 4: not worrying about them.

884
00:45:09,573 --> 00:45:09,973
Speaker 5: So much.

885
00:45:10,213 --> 00:45:12,773
Speaker 4: I mean sounds like this one was getting so stinky

886
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:14,973
Speaker 4: that someone had to do something about it, just purely

887
00:45:15,013 --> 00:45:17,013
Speaker 4: for just purely for the amount of smell that was

888
00:45:17,053 --> 00:45:19,493
Speaker 4: going on. I mean December last year three cannabis grow

889
00:45:19,493 --> 00:45:22,093
Speaker 4: houses were discovered in South Auckland and police these three

890
00:45:22,173 --> 00:45:25,773
Speaker 4: hundred parts. So how much resources are going towards this?

891
00:45:26,013 --> 00:45:26,212
Speaker 5: Yeah?

892
00:45:26,533 --> 00:45:29,652
Speaker 4: And are you happy about that? I mean a lot

893
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:32,893
Speaker 4: of people would say, well, cannabis does damage. They believe

894
00:45:32,893 --> 00:45:35,493
Speaker 4: cannis does damage, and it is illegal and the police

895
00:45:35,613 --> 00:45:39,613
Speaker 4: need to, you know, shut things down that are against

896
00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:40,692
Speaker 4: the law, you know.

897
00:45:40,693 --> 00:45:43,693
Speaker 2: But there's only so much resource that the police have,

898
00:45:43,853 --> 00:45:46,493
Speaker 2: right and whether they should be putting that resource into

899
00:45:46,693 --> 00:45:48,973
Speaker 2: I don't know, methamphittamine or are the crimes that we

900
00:45:48,973 --> 00:45:51,493
Speaker 2: would probably consider more serious. But it was only a

901
00:45:51,493 --> 00:45:54,493
Speaker 2: couple of years ago that they spent millions on spraying

902
00:45:54,533 --> 00:45:57,533
Speaker 2: cannabis crops and the helicopter. I'd love to know if

903
00:45:57,533 --> 00:46:00,693
Speaker 2: does anyone know if the cannabis helicopter is still operating? Oh,

904
00:46:00,733 --> 00:46:03,172
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

905
00:46:03,813 --> 00:46:05,812
Speaker 2: Keen to hear your views. How do you feel about

906
00:46:05,813 --> 00:46:08,813
Speaker 2: these cannabis busts these days? Should that re source be

907
00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:10,933
Speaker 2: allocated elsewhere it.

908
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:14,533
Speaker 4: Is feeling Are you feeling casual about cannabis or you

909
00:46:14,653 --> 00:46:16,973
Speaker 4: still think it's a blight on society that needs to

910
00:46:17,013 --> 00:46:20,133
Speaker 4: be smashed up, a stinky blight on society and we

911
00:46:20,253 --> 00:46:21,693
Speaker 4: need to be going hard on it nicely.

912
00:46:21,693 --> 00:46:24,212
Speaker 2: So let's get into it. It is thirteen pasts two.

913
00:46:24,213 --> 00:46:26,493
Speaker 2: You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very good afternoon to you.

914
00:46:27,693 --> 00:46:32,013
Speaker 1: Wow your new home of afternoon talk Matt and Taylor

915
00:46:32,133 --> 00:46:35,613
Speaker 1: Afternoons Call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty youth Talk,

916
00:46:35,693 --> 00:46:36,133
Speaker 1: sai'd be.

917
00:46:38,533 --> 00:46:40,613
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you. And we're talking about the

918
00:46:40,653 --> 00:46:43,973
Speaker 2: police resource when it comes to cannabis operations on the

919
00:46:43,973 --> 00:46:47,413
Speaker 2: back of what looks to be quite a significant cannabis

920
00:46:47,533 --> 00:46:51,133
Speaker 2: bust in three Kings in Auckland. Is that money well

921
00:46:51,173 --> 00:46:54,013
Speaker 2: spent when we know the police just do not have

922
00:46:54,053 --> 00:46:55,893
Speaker 2: the funds to be able to do everything. Should that

923
00:46:55,933 --> 00:47:00,973
Speaker 2: money go into, for example, more myth operations rather than cannabis. Oh,

924
00:47:00,973 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to call.

925
00:47:03,093 --> 00:47:05,133
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I mean a lot of cannabis seems

926
00:47:05,133 --> 00:47:07,453
Speaker 4: to be getting more and more mainstream, and yet we're

927
00:47:07,493 --> 00:47:10,493
Speaker 4: smashing up operations. Maybe you agree with that. Let's go

928
00:47:10,613 --> 00:47:12,013
Speaker 4: to Dave yet.

929
00:47:11,853 --> 00:47:15,013
Speaker 13: I Dave, Hey, good afternoon fellas.

930
00:47:16,093 --> 00:47:18,773
Speaker 2: What are you reckon about these cannabis bus waste of money?

931
00:47:19,693 --> 00:47:19,973
Speaker 1: Yeah?

932
00:47:20,053 --> 00:47:26,173
Speaker 13: Absolutely, mate, absolutely, Look, you know we're we're we're wasting

933
00:47:26,213 --> 00:47:30,653
Speaker 13: our resources, police resources on on a on a plant

934
00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 13: that's been on the earth for forty fifty thousand years.

935
00:47:34,493 --> 00:47:38,013
Speaker 13: It's not going to go away, you know, it grows

936
00:47:38,053 --> 00:47:41,293
Speaker 13: in the ground, just like you know it's legal to

937
00:47:41,333 --> 00:47:44,373
Speaker 13: go and buy opening poppies from the local garden center.

938
00:47:44,933 --> 00:47:49,692
Speaker 13: Those things that grow, you know, meant with far far

939
00:47:49,773 --> 00:47:54,853
Speaker 13: beer off to focus our energy and resources on man

940
00:47:54,893 --> 00:47:59,773
Speaker 13: made as like pant you know, and those sort of things.

941
00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:02,212
Speaker 13: Been worrying about something that's been growing on the earth

942
00:48:02,293 --> 00:48:05,293
Speaker 13: for thousands of years, It's just it's a it's a

943
00:48:05,333 --> 00:48:09,573
Speaker 13: waste of time to waste the money, and it's really

944
00:48:09,613 --> 00:48:14,733
Speaker 13: an asinine argument to try and convince, you know, to

945
00:48:15,093 --> 00:48:18,413
Speaker 13: tell people that they can control it. It's uncontrollable.

946
00:48:19,373 --> 00:48:21,413
Speaker 4: Would you would you would you push for a complete

947
00:48:21,533 --> 00:48:25,772
Speaker 4: complete legalization of cannabis, Dave? Was that what you would

948
00:48:25,773 --> 00:48:26,293
Speaker 4: like to see.

949
00:48:27,053 --> 00:48:27,692
Speaker 5: Kind of scent?

950
00:48:27,893 --> 00:48:28,333
Speaker 11: Yeah?

951
00:48:28,373 --> 00:48:31,813
Speaker 13: I look, just to put a bit of context, I'm

952
00:48:31,813 --> 00:48:33,692
Speaker 13: not a I don't grow it. I don't, I don't

953
00:48:33,773 --> 00:48:36,253
Speaker 13: I have smoked it. I'll be straight up, but I'm

954
00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:38,853
Speaker 13: not a you know, I'm not a user to say,

955
00:48:40,293 --> 00:48:43,133
Speaker 13: I just I like to think of myself as a realist.

956
00:48:43,773 --> 00:48:49,732
Speaker 13: And you know, there's the more conservative members of our

957
00:48:49,773 --> 00:48:52,133
Speaker 13: community and other communities around the world would say that

958
00:48:52,173 --> 00:48:56,333
Speaker 13: it's a gateweight drug. It's not a gateway drug. I

959
00:48:56,333 --> 00:48:59,653
Speaker 13: mean it's a substance. It's a plant that has a

960
00:48:59,973 --> 00:49:03,293
Speaker 13: has a site active chemical on it. Like there are

961
00:49:03,293 --> 00:49:05,453
Speaker 13: about one hundred and fifty plants on the planet that

962
00:49:05,533 --> 00:49:11,013
Speaker 13: have psychoactive compounds in them. Nutmeg has a psychoactive compounded.

963
00:49:11,213 --> 00:49:13,533
Speaker 4: Well, I had a friend. I had a friend, Dave,

964
00:49:13,653 --> 00:49:18,373
Speaker 4: who took nutmeg, an excessive amount of nutmeg, and that

965
00:49:18,613 --> 00:49:20,933
Speaker 4: really really messed him up. He did it when we

966
00:49:20,933 --> 00:49:23,493
Speaker 4: were teenagers and it took him five years to come back.

967
00:49:24,093 --> 00:49:26,253
Speaker 4: Nutmeg can do a lot of damage to you. It's

968
00:49:26,293 --> 00:49:28,333
Speaker 4: people don't know this, but if you if you pour

969
00:49:28,333 --> 00:49:30,933
Speaker 4: a bunch of nutmeg into into a glass, drink it

970
00:49:30,973 --> 00:49:33,453
Speaker 4: with some whatever, it can really mess you up.

971
00:49:35,213 --> 00:49:36,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

972
00:49:36,173 --> 00:49:39,133
Speaker 13: Absolutely, And there's there's plenty of plants, there's mushrooms that

973
00:49:39,253 --> 00:49:42,613
Speaker 13: grow to the ground made that can really mess you up.

974
00:49:43,373 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 13: Day dura, you know, misculine.

975
00:49:45,853 --> 00:49:49,093
Speaker 4: Also, don't mess with datura. Oh my god, no one

976
00:49:49,213 --> 00:49:51,893
Speaker 4: messed with datura flowers from the Garden of Hell.

977
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:56,853
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm seeing and look, I'm not promoting it. I'm

978
00:49:56,893 --> 00:49:59,773
Speaker 13: just saying that in light on this planet, we have

979
00:49:59,893 --> 00:50:03,933
Speaker 13: minig mounds and plants that will do you know, have

980
00:50:04,093 --> 00:50:06,693
Speaker 13: psychoactive things that will affect you.

981
00:50:06,813 --> 00:50:08,933
Speaker 9: That's just plants, you know.

982
00:50:09,613 --> 00:50:13,813
Speaker 13: Good and bad compounds. But you know why we're wasting money,

983
00:50:14,293 --> 00:50:17,613
Speaker 13: our taxpayer money, paying you know, thousand dollars an hour

984
00:50:17,613 --> 00:50:21,293
Speaker 13: for helicopter to fly around and bust these operations. I

985
00:50:21,333 --> 00:50:25,013
Speaker 13: think we should legalize it, maybe monetarize it even better,

986
00:50:25,093 --> 00:50:29,573
Speaker 13: even more, and you know, chase these guys, these instidious

987
00:50:30,053 --> 00:50:32,692
Speaker 13: precks that are selling met the other ones.

988
00:50:33,253 --> 00:50:33,733
Speaker 5: I worry.

989
00:50:34,093 --> 00:50:35,692
Speaker 4: I think we can all agree that myth is evil

990
00:50:35,733 --> 00:50:38,053
Speaker 4: and we should do everything we can to fight it.

991
00:50:38,693 --> 00:50:42,652
Speaker 4: What about cannabis on growing minds, Because I think there's

992
00:50:42,693 --> 00:50:45,253
Speaker 4: two problems. I don't think I don't think cannabis is

993
00:50:45,293 --> 00:50:47,813
Speaker 4: great for people. I don't think it's great for teenagers.

994
00:50:48,213 --> 00:50:51,933
Speaker 4: I don't think it's great for motivation. For teenagers. I

995
00:50:51,973 --> 00:50:55,053
Speaker 4: think one of the best arguments against cannabis for young

996
00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:59,933
Speaker 4: people is smoking weed makes boring things fun. So you know,

997
00:51:00,133 --> 00:51:01,933
Speaker 4: I can think of a couple of flatmates in my

998
00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:04,573
Speaker 4: life that would just sit all day smoking weed, watching

999
00:51:04,573 --> 00:51:06,253
Speaker 4: in commercials, and they seem to have a really good

1000
00:51:06,293 --> 00:51:08,732
Speaker 4: time doing it. And that's a problem for getting things

1001
00:51:08,773 --> 00:51:09,493
Speaker 4: done in your life.

1002
00:51:10,613 --> 00:51:14,373
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, look that that And to me, it adds

1003
00:51:14,413 --> 00:51:17,293
Speaker 13: weight to the idea, the concept of legalizing it so

1004
00:51:17,333 --> 00:51:21,212
Speaker 13: that just like alcohol, you know, and and other substances,

1005
00:51:21,253 --> 00:51:23,652
Speaker 13: you know, we should we should control it in the

1006
00:51:23,653 --> 00:51:26,093
Speaker 13: way that it should be available to people. Yes, I

1007
00:51:26,133 --> 00:51:28,652
Speaker 13: agree with that, but you know, make it so that

1008
00:51:28,733 --> 00:51:31,893
Speaker 13: it's there's a legal agent for it, and and spend

1009
00:51:31,893 --> 00:51:35,173
Speaker 13: the money on education. I mean, it's just like alcohol.

1010
00:51:35,253 --> 00:51:37,493
Speaker 13: We you know, we need to educate our young kids

1011
00:51:37,773 --> 00:51:40,893
Speaker 13: about drinking. We need to educate about smoking. We need

1012
00:51:40,933 --> 00:51:44,293
Speaker 13: to educate them about you know, smoking marijuana, because there's

1013
00:51:44,333 --> 00:51:46,813
Speaker 13: going to be a big chunk of these these kids

1014
00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:49,493
Speaker 13: that will do it whether we say say no not.

1015
00:51:50,133 --> 00:51:52,692
Speaker 13: This just makes sure they're fully on as to what

1016
00:51:52,733 --> 00:51:56,133
Speaker 13: it is, what it does, and you know, and and

1017
00:51:56,133 --> 00:52:01,732
Speaker 13: and teach them hardcore about the evils of myth and

1018
00:52:01,853 --> 00:52:08,253
Speaker 13: ice and all those other man made substances.

1019
00:52:06,453 --> 00:52:08,093
Speaker 4: So much to be cool, Dave, I appreciate. We've got

1020
00:52:08,093 --> 00:52:10,893
Speaker 4: to see coming through with you know, this always complicated

1021
00:52:11,133 --> 00:52:13,652
Speaker 4: complications and this I read this story and I go,

1022
00:52:13,693 --> 00:52:16,493
Speaker 4: are we're still smashing up cannabis labs. I thought everyone

1023
00:52:16,573 --> 00:52:19,813
Speaker 4: was okay with cannabis now even though it causes you know,

1024
00:52:19,853 --> 00:52:22,893
Speaker 4: we admit that it has potential risk. But this police

1025
00:52:22,893 --> 00:52:26,533
Speaker 4: officer here, the text is police officer here, gangs are

1026
00:52:26,573 --> 00:52:31,453
Speaker 4: profiting from selling marijuana, cannabis. Gangs also pedal meths profits

1027
00:52:31,453 --> 00:52:35,853
Speaker 4: are huge. Well, it's illegal, we should continue continue to

1028
00:52:35,893 --> 00:52:38,533
Speaker 4: police it. So basically what he's saying is that the

1029
00:52:38,573 --> 00:52:44,573
Speaker 4: people that are growing and selling it are gangs and

1030
00:52:44,613 --> 00:52:48,093
Speaker 4: that's just furthering their operation. And they'll have some cannabis

1031
00:52:48,093 --> 00:52:50,133
Speaker 4: in there, they'll have some myth in there. So anything

1032
00:52:50,173 --> 00:52:52,013
Speaker 4: that's making gangs money is a bad thing and we

1033
00:52:52,013 --> 00:52:54,853
Speaker 4: should stop it. And you know that, as he says,

1034
00:52:54,853 --> 00:52:58,093
Speaker 4: well it's illegal, we should continue to pleice it. Because

1035
00:52:58,693 --> 00:53:01,613
Speaker 4: while something's illegal, then criminal elements are going to be

1036
00:53:01,653 --> 00:53:05,213
Speaker 4: the people by definition that are profiting from it.

1037
00:53:05,373 --> 00:53:07,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you can take out the gangs

1038
00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:12,813
Speaker 2: via you know their cannabis grow operation, and you know

1039
00:53:13,013 --> 00:53:15,453
Speaker 2: that they are still producing methamphetamine. But that's how you

1040
00:53:15,493 --> 00:53:18,813
Speaker 2: get them fair enough, Absolutely get that. But I'm just

1041
00:53:18,853 --> 00:53:22,053
Speaker 2: getting some tecks here. Yes, the police helicopter is still

1042
00:53:22,053 --> 00:53:26,133
Speaker 2: an operation for cannabis. It does cost a lot of

1043
00:53:26,173 --> 00:53:28,613
Speaker 2: money to have that operation. That money would be better

1044
00:53:28,653 --> 00:53:31,692
Speaker 2: spent elsewhere. And I suppose that is where I'm coming from,

1045
00:53:31,853 --> 00:53:36,013
Speaker 2: is those the crop investigations where they fly that helicopter,

1046
00:53:36,133 --> 00:53:38,053
Speaker 2: and then the millions that used to be spent on

1047
00:53:38,093 --> 00:53:42,253
Speaker 2: spraying those crops, perhaps that is best allocated too, focusing

1048
00:53:42,293 --> 00:53:45,053
Speaker 2: directly on methamphetamine. But keen on your thoughts. So eight

1049
00:53:45,173 --> 00:53:47,573
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's

1050
00:53:47,653 --> 00:53:49,133
Speaker 2: twenty two past.

1051
00:53:48,813 --> 00:53:57,053
Speaker 1: Two, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1052
00:53:57,133 --> 00:53:59,013
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

1053
00:53:59,733 --> 00:54:03,533
Speaker 2: Good afternoon. We're talking about cannabis operations from a police

1054
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:06,733
Speaker 2: point of view. Clearly there is still resource being allocated

1055
00:54:06,773 --> 00:54:09,093
Speaker 2: to these cannabis bus stups. But we're asked the question,

1056
00:54:09,293 --> 00:54:13,373
Speaker 2: diod or should they rather be allocating those resources and

1057
00:54:13,493 --> 00:54:15,973
Speaker 2: money to something that I think we can all agree

1058
00:54:16,013 --> 00:54:17,693
Speaker 2: is a bit more serious like meth and phtamine. Oh

1059
00:54:17,733 --> 00:54:18,772
Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties.

1060
00:54:18,813 --> 00:54:22,133
Speaker 4: The number to call the six is Matt That was irresponsible.

1061
00:54:22,133 --> 00:54:24,053
Speaker 4: The supermarket is now going to run out of nutmeg.

1062
00:54:24,053 --> 00:54:24,732
Speaker 4: That's from John.

1063
00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:25,252
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1064
00:54:25,293 --> 00:54:27,652
Speaker 4: So when I see before that, my friend, you know,

1065
00:54:27,813 --> 00:54:30,213
Speaker 4: the point was being made that there's lots of plants

1066
00:54:30,253 --> 00:54:33,733
Speaker 4: that grow on the ground that have psychoactive properties, and

1067
00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:36,373
Speaker 4: I was talking about nutmeg and a friend of mine

1068
00:54:36,853 --> 00:54:38,893
Speaker 4: this is a no way to sell nutmeg. What happened

1069
00:54:38,933 --> 00:54:41,613
Speaker 4: to him? So he mixed up a bunch of nutmeg

1070
00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:44,692
Speaker 4: and milk, he drank it, he lost consciousness, banged his

1071
00:54:44,733 --> 00:54:47,093
Speaker 4: head on a toilet, then had to be helped home,

1072
00:54:47,413 --> 00:54:49,333
Speaker 4: and then looked at the world through like he was

1073
00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:51,733
Speaker 4: looking through a video camera for the next five years,

1074
00:54:52,093 --> 00:54:54,813
Speaker 4: and spent most of his time hiding in his parents' attic.

1075
00:54:55,773 --> 00:54:57,373
Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't know.

1076
00:54:57,413 --> 00:54:59,133
Speaker 4: There might have been some other stuff going on in

1077
00:54:59,133 --> 00:55:00,933
Speaker 4: that brain, and the nutmeg might have been what put

1078
00:55:00,933 --> 00:55:03,653
Speaker 4: it on, But I certainly I don't think that story

1079
00:55:03,773 --> 00:55:07,732
Speaker 4: is a good has a good advertising for nutmeg. And

1080
00:55:08,373 --> 00:55:12,213
Speaker 4: don't get me started on Daytura. Oh yeah, Datsuura is

1081
00:55:12,253 --> 00:55:15,573
Speaker 4: an evil evil. As I said before, it's flowers from

1082
00:55:15,573 --> 00:55:16,093
Speaker 4: the Garden of.

1083
00:55:16,093 --> 00:55:19,613
Speaker 2: Hell, very dangerous. Yeah. Our one hundred and eighty ten

1084
00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:22,253
Speaker 2: eighty is the number. Call Tom, how are you this afternoon?

1085
00:55:24,453 --> 00:55:26,373
Speaker 5: Get a tim Yeah great.

1086
00:55:27,213 --> 00:55:27,693
Speaker 9: Can you hear me?

1087
00:55:27,813 --> 00:55:30,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha, you're on my frame. What's your thoughts about

1088
00:55:30,413 --> 00:55:33,373
Speaker 2: the resource on busting these cannabis operations?

1089
00:55:35,533 --> 00:55:37,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, it comes.

1090
00:55:37,573 --> 00:55:40,692
Speaker 14: Back to the black market aspect of it, because that's

1091
00:55:40,813 --> 00:55:46,533
Speaker 14: really where the police are. Text came up. It's the

1092
00:55:46,893 --> 00:55:49,533
Speaker 14: it's the it's the black market that the gangs are

1093
00:55:49,533 --> 00:55:52,533
Speaker 14: making money on and that's where it should be stamped out.

1094
00:55:52,573 --> 00:55:55,933
Speaker 14: You know, marijuana has been around for a long time,

1095
00:55:56,213 --> 00:55:59,172
Speaker 14: and as we know, we can get medicinal marijuana now,

1096
00:55:59,253 --> 00:56:03,013
Speaker 14: so it's it's used for medicinal purposes. So that's all great,

1097
00:56:03,533 --> 00:56:07,692
Speaker 14: But it's if they can legalize it somehow, we can

1098
00:56:07,813 --> 00:56:10,533
Speaker 14: text all out of it, make some money, make make

1099
00:56:10,613 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 14: some more texts out of it, and give it to

1100
00:56:13,773 --> 00:56:16,172
Speaker 14: the people that can afford it, you know, and then

1101
00:56:16,213 --> 00:56:18,172
Speaker 14: they can. The kids won't have it because they don't

1102
00:56:18,173 --> 00:56:20,533
Speaker 14: be to afford it. So it's it's a people that

1103
00:56:20,613 --> 00:56:22,853
Speaker 14: want it, we're better buy it. Just like cigarettes. Now

1104
00:56:22,933 --> 00:56:26,293
Speaker 14: there's fifty bucks of packet, so make make marijuana, you know,

1105
00:56:26,293 --> 00:56:27,373
Speaker 14: one hundred bucks of packets.

1106
00:56:28,573 --> 00:56:31,013
Speaker 4: It's an interesting argument, and I guess this is the

1107
00:56:31,093 --> 00:56:33,013
Speaker 4: argument here a lot of people texting through. You know,

1108
00:56:33,053 --> 00:56:35,213
Speaker 4: if wood crime still make money on weed if it

1109
00:56:35,253 --> 00:56:37,933
Speaker 4: was legalized and regulated. I'm in two minds about it,

1110
00:56:37,973 --> 00:56:43,053
Speaker 4: because if you fully legalize it completely, then there's an

1111
00:56:43,093 --> 00:56:48,573
Speaker 4: incentive for you know, companies, businesses to advertise it and

1112
00:56:49,373 --> 00:56:51,573
Speaker 4: sell more and more, you know, grow the market share.

1113
00:56:52,013 --> 00:56:54,732
Speaker 4: Do we want do we want that? Do we want

1114
00:56:54,893 --> 00:56:59,133
Speaker 4: more marijuana in more people smoking marijuana?

1115
00:57:00,773 --> 00:57:02,933
Speaker 14: Well, it's got to be controlled, just like we do

1116
00:57:03,013 --> 00:57:05,733
Speaker 14: with cigarettes. We don't see the marketing of that anymore,

1117
00:57:06,213 --> 00:57:09,172
Speaker 14: so it'll be in the same category. We don't see

1118
00:57:09,213 --> 00:57:12,333
Speaker 14: too much booze advertising only after ten o'clock a night

1119
00:57:12,413 --> 00:57:15,693
Speaker 14: or something on the TV, but it's not widespread like

1120
00:57:15,773 --> 00:57:18,453
Speaker 14: it used to be used to see billboards for booze advertising.

1121
00:57:18,933 --> 00:57:22,493
Speaker 14: It would be in the same category. So it's just

1122
00:57:22,493 --> 00:57:24,893
Speaker 14: sort of cutting out the gangs, cutting out that middle

1123
00:57:24,933 --> 00:57:27,293
Speaker 14: person that's making a shitload of money out of it.

1124
00:57:27,533 --> 00:57:30,053
Speaker 4: You know, do you mind me asking are you a

1125
00:57:30,053 --> 00:57:32,853
Speaker 4: partaker in the in the leaf?

1126
00:57:33,853 --> 00:57:34,693
Speaker 5: No?

1127
00:57:34,693 --> 00:57:38,333
Speaker 14: No, no, not for a very very very long time.

1128
00:57:38,573 --> 00:57:40,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do we do, tom? I mean, it

1129
00:57:40,973 --> 00:57:43,093
Speaker 2: was very close when we held the referendum not so

1130
00:57:43,213 --> 00:57:46,773
Speaker 2: long ago. Is that do we need to have another referendum?

1131
00:57:46,813 --> 00:57:47,773
Speaker 2: Is that what we're talking about?

1132
00:57:47,813 --> 00:57:48,053
Speaker 15: Yet?

1133
00:57:48,893 --> 00:57:52,133
Speaker 14: I think it's a question. It's got to be right.

1134
00:57:53,133 --> 00:57:56,333
Speaker 14: We're not asking the right question for the referendum, and

1135
00:57:56,733 --> 00:57:59,693
Speaker 14: that's where it's got to be directed. And it comes

1136
00:57:59,773 --> 00:58:00,573
Speaker 14: with a lot of things.

1137
00:58:00,853 --> 00:58:01,293
Speaker 9: The question.

1138
00:58:01,373 --> 00:58:03,853
Speaker 14: You know, you can get the answer from Google these days,

1139
00:58:03,933 --> 00:58:06,573
Speaker 14: but you've got to ask the right question, and that's

1140
00:58:06,573 --> 00:58:08,173
Speaker 14: where it comes to. And that goes with with the

1141
00:58:08,413 --> 00:58:09,773
Speaker 14: for random Yeah.

1142
00:58:09,973 --> 00:58:12,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got this text here that says, if that

1143
00:58:12,373 --> 00:58:15,413
Speaker 4: growing operation and three Kings smelled so bad they got busted,

1144
00:58:15,453 --> 00:58:17,453
Speaker 4: can you imagine what it'll be like if everyone starts

1145
00:58:17,453 --> 00:58:19,693
Speaker 4: smoking it. I've been to California recently and it smells

1146
00:58:19,693 --> 00:58:21,893
Speaker 4: so bad I will never go back. That is true.

1147
00:58:21,973 --> 00:58:27,493
Speaker 4: New York City absolutely reeks of marijuana now. And you know,

1148
00:58:27,733 --> 00:58:28,853
Speaker 4: you know, if you're at a concert and it just

1149
00:58:28,893 --> 00:58:30,893
Speaker 4: sort of floats past, you go, it's quite a nice

1150
00:58:30,933 --> 00:58:34,933
Speaker 4: sort of smell, but when it's just everywhere, it actually

1151
00:58:35,613 --> 00:58:39,093
Speaker 4: becomes quite disgusting. Yeah, it's and yeah, I've been to

1152
00:58:39,133 --> 00:58:41,373
Speaker 4: California to do it as well. I did this documentary

1153
00:58:42,653 --> 00:58:46,933
Speaker 4: in Colorado when they were first legalizing and opening up

1154
00:58:46,933 --> 00:58:51,853
Speaker 4: the marijuana businesses. They when they legalized it over there,

1155
00:58:51,853 --> 00:58:54,813
Speaker 4: and it was a pretty interesting thing that it did

1156
00:58:55,173 --> 00:58:56,853
Speaker 4: well for a while over there, and they've had a

1157
00:58:56,893 --> 00:59:00,133
Speaker 4: good tax and take from it. But I think they're

1158
00:59:00,573 --> 00:59:04,933
Speaker 4: now starting to see some kind of psychiatric effects of

1159
00:59:04,973 --> 00:59:07,493
Speaker 4: it as as more and more people smoke marijuana, and

1160
00:59:07,533 --> 00:59:11,653
Speaker 4: there's some people at least that have have remorse about

1161
00:59:11,693 --> 00:59:13,293
Speaker 4: the legalization of it. I should look into that a

1162
00:59:13,293 --> 00:59:13,853
Speaker 4: little bit more.

1163
00:59:14,013 --> 00:59:16,213
Speaker 2: Just on the New York question, arguably that might have

1164
00:59:16,253 --> 00:59:18,053
Speaker 2: improved the smell in New York for a lot of people.

1165
00:59:18,053 --> 00:59:20,613
Speaker 2: Met I mean, you know, as a city, she's a

1166
00:59:20,613 --> 00:59:23,053
Speaker 2: funky New York can smell a bit funky in the

1167
00:59:23,053 --> 00:59:24,613
Speaker 2: middle of New York sometimes.

1168
00:59:24,853 --> 00:59:27,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there are a number of people that

1169
00:59:28,253 --> 00:59:31,893
Speaker 4: don't have homes and evidently also do not have bathrooms.

1170
00:59:32,013 --> 00:59:34,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, very true. Hey, I've just found some information

1171
00:59:34,653 --> 00:59:37,773
Speaker 2: from twenty sixteen, so arguably it may have changed somewhat

1172
00:59:37,813 --> 00:59:41,293
Speaker 2: in the last seven, no nine years. But the New

1173
00:59:41,373 --> 00:59:44,213
Speaker 2: Zealand Treasury calculated in twenty sixteen that a change in

1174
00:59:44,253 --> 00:59:46,973
Speaker 2: the legal status of marijuana could reap an additional one

1175
00:59:47,093 --> 00:59:50,013
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars in revenue and reduce spending

1176
00:59:50,093 --> 00:59:53,653
Speaker 2: on drug enforcement by around forty percent, which they estimated

1177
00:59:53,893 --> 00:59:57,133
Speaker 2: was one hundred and eighty million. So from this they

1178
00:59:57,173 --> 00:59:59,933
Speaker 2: can conclude that the cost of the current enforcement policy

1179
01:00:00,173 --> 01:00:02,213
Speaker 2: is over three hundred million per year. That was in

1180
01:00:02,253 --> 01:00:04,293
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. That's a lot of dough.

1181
01:00:04,973 --> 01:00:08,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so you know that the policemen that texted

1182
01:00:08,093 --> 01:00:11,573
Speaker 4: him for he you know, was saying, because it's illegal,

1183
01:00:12,013 --> 01:00:14,493
Speaker 4: then we need to bust them because the people that

1184
01:00:14,493 --> 01:00:16,133
Speaker 4: are doing it, you know, the gangs are growing it

1185
01:00:16,173 --> 01:00:18,893
Speaker 4: and they're you know, they're making money and that helps

1186
01:00:18,933 --> 01:00:27,373
Speaker 4: their entire operations. So yeah, I mean, I don't I

1187
01:00:27,373 --> 01:00:30,173
Speaker 4: think it's one of those really really really complicated things. Yeah,

1188
01:00:30,293 --> 01:00:32,373
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I just have to think about my

1189
01:00:32,413 --> 01:00:33,413
Speaker 4: thoughts on this actually.

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Speaker 2: Infused I one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you are

1191
01:00:35,413 --> 01:00:37,573
Speaker 2: a police officer, love to hear from you. We can

1192
01:00:37,653 --> 01:00:39,613
Speaker 2: keep you anonymous, leave your name out of it, but

1193
01:00:39,693 --> 01:00:42,373
Speaker 2: really keen to hear from what you see on the

1194
01:00:42,413 --> 01:00:44,853
Speaker 2: ground and whether it is and avenue to bust up

1195
01:00:44,853 --> 01:00:47,853
Speaker 2: some of the gangs that are peddling some more nefarious

1196
01:00:47,853 --> 01:00:50,773
Speaker 2: products like metham fetamine, or if it is a bit

1197
01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:53,373
Speaker 2: of a race, waste of the money and resources that

1198
01:00:53,813 --> 01:00:56,093
Speaker 2: police have that are limited. I eight hundred eighty ten

1199
01:00:56,133 --> 01:00:58,333
Speaker 2: eighties that I'm going to call twenty eight to three.

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01:01:01,133 --> 01:01:01,693
Speaker 6: US talks.

1201
01:01:01,733 --> 01:01:05,333
Speaker 10: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1202
01:01:05,373 --> 01:01:08,133
Speaker 10: with a blue bubble. The government will ask the US

1203
01:01:08,493 --> 01:01:12,253
Speaker 10: what numbers it's using to justify you ten percent tariffs

1204
01:01:12,653 --> 01:01:16,413
Speaker 10: its claiming. New Zealand currently charges the US twenty percent,

1205
01:01:16,733 --> 01:01:20,613
Speaker 10: but that figure is actually less than two percent. Gayeger

1206
01:01:20,773 --> 01:01:24,613
Speaker 10: Order is proposing to cut six hundred and seventy three rolls.

1207
01:01:25,053 --> 01:01:29,133
Speaker 10: One hundred and ninety five are currently vacant. Chief Executive

1208
01:01:29,133 --> 01:01:32,013
Speaker 10: Matt Crockett says the agency will have a new, narrower

1209
01:01:32,053 --> 01:01:36,813
Speaker 10: focus on managing and providing housing in a financially sustainable way.

1210
01:01:37,973 --> 01:01:40,173
Speaker 10: Health New Zealand is patting itself on the back for

1211
01:01:40,253 --> 01:01:43,693
Speaker 10: improving three of five health targets since the last quarter

1212
01:01:44,053 --> 01:01:49,173
Speaker 10: in shortening ed's stays, increasing children immunization, and speeding access

1213
01:01:49,173 --> 01:01:54,333
Speaker 10: to cancer treatment. The Transport Accident Investigation Commission says a

1214
01:01:54,413 --> 01:01:58,973
Speaker 10: fatal boat capsize off Caikoda was almost certainly after striking

1215
01:01:59,013 --> 01:02:02,853
Speaker 10: a whale. It also points to emergency response delays and

1216
01:02:02,893 --> 01:02:07,493
Speaker 10: a fuel system defect. Medicine approvals will change early next year,

1217
01:02:07,573 --> 01:02:11,213
Speaker 10: speeding the time they take by quickly approving drugs already

1218
01:02:11,253 --> 01:02:17,693
Speaker 10: accepted in specific overseas jurisdictions. Trump says global trade is unfair.

1219
01:02:18,213 --> 01:02:21,333
Speaker 10: Does he have a point? Read more at enzidherrald Premium

1220
01:02:21,613 --> 01:02:23,253
Speaker 10: Back to Matt Heathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, And we are talking about

1222
01:02:26,533 --> 01:02:31,533
Speaker 2: cannabis operations. Is that resource police resource better spent on

1223
01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:34,493
Speaker 2: things I think we can all agree are more nefarious

1224
01:02:34,533 --> 01:02:36,893
Speaker 2: like methan FHETAMINEA eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Now,

1225
01:02:36,933 --> 01:02:40,813
Speaker 2: just a quick reminder as well that sometime in the

1226
01:02:40,853 --> 01:02:42,293
Speaker 2: next hour and a half you're going to hear the

1227
01:02:42,333 --> 01:02:45,813
Speaker 2: cuter call to go on the drawer for the ultimate prize,

1228
01:02:45,853 --> 01:02:48,093
Speaker 2: a trip to New Way return flights for four to

1229
01:02:48,093 --> 01:02:51,573
Speaker 2: two New Way, seven nights for four in two deluxe rooms,

1230
01:02:51,613 --> 01:02:55,613
Speaker 2: no doubt, including daily breakfast, choice of either a one

1231
01:02:55,693 --> 01:02:58,413
Speaker 2: day fishing charter for four or a day's dive snorkeling charter.

1232
01:02:58,533 --> 01:03:01,613
Speaker 2: Seven day vehicle rental in an island tour. It is incredible.

1233
01:03:02,213 --> 01:03:04,853
Speaker 4: Did you know that Time magazine named new a place

1234
01:03:04,933 --> 01:03:06,453
Speaker 4: to visit in twenty twenty five and it was the

1235
01:03:06,493 --> 01:03:10,013
Speaker 4: only island in the world that it mentioned in its

1236
01:03:10,013 --> 01:03:12,453
Speaker 4: global destination lists. Do you know that Time magazine?

1237
01:03:12,693 --> 01:03:15,933
Speaker 2: Time Magazine? It is incredible. I'm not surprised. It is

1238
01:03:15,933 --> 01:03:18,013
Speaker 2: a beautiful island, but that is a great factoid.

1239
01:03:19,053 --> 01:03:21,413
Speaker 4: So before I was trying to I had an idea

1240
01:03:21,453 --> 01:03:23,733
Speaker 4: in my head and then suddenly my brain went blank

1241
01:03:24,213 --> 01:03:26,213
Speaker 4: and I didn't know where I was going. And then

1242
01:03:26,213 --> 01:03:27,853
Speaker 4: it turns out my idea was stupid anyway, So I'm

1243
01:03:27,853 --> 01:03:29,333
Speaker 4: glad I didn't say it, but I'm I've just got

1244
01:03:29,373 --> 01:03:32,293
Speaker 4: to clarify what I was doing. But I was saying,

1245
01:03:32,613 --> 01:03:37,133
Speaker 4: as with this bust of the Three Kings cannabis growing operation,

1246
01:03:37,453 --> 01:03:42,093
Speaker 4: it was stinky, very stinky, and that helped people find it, right,

1247
01:03:42,173 --> 01:03:44,253
Speaker 4: that had helped the police find it. So I was thinking,

1248
01:03:44,253 --> 01:03:47,093
Speaker 4: in my head, is that a great way to get

1249
01:03:47,093 --> 01:03:49,933
Speaker 4: the gangs, Because if they've got a cannabis operation that's stinky,

1250
01:03:50,013 --> 01:03:51,853
Speaker 4: the police find them and that helps them shut down.

1251
01:03:51,893 --> 01:03:54,253
Speaker 4: And our police officer that was saying before that the

1252
01:03:54,293 --> 01:03:55,693
Speaker 4: gangs will be using some of the money of the

1253
01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:58,213
Speaker 4: cannabis to help their meth operations, so it's good to

1254
01:03:58,213 --> 01:04:01,013
Speaker 4: smash them down. So maybe it was a good thing

1255
01:04:01,053 --> 01:04:03,613
Speaker 4: that they've got the stinky part of their operation. That

1256
01:04:03,693 --> 01:04:06,093
Speaker 4: makes it easy to find what they're doing. But then

1257
01:04:06,173 --> 01:04:11,053
Speaker 4: someone said here, met him up at a good weed

1258
01:04:11,093 --> 01:04:14,413
Speaker 4: growing operation. Will have filters and you won't be able

1259
01:04:14,453 --> 01:04:17,213
Speaker 4: to smell it. That was a that was an average

1260
01:04:17,533 --> 01:04:20,253
Speaker 4: that that that was a low level one. If it's stinky, that's.

1261
01:04:20,173 --> 01:04:22,053
Speaker 2: What they know what they're doing. It's not going to

1262
01:04:22,133 --> 01:04:25,533
Speaker 2: be stinky, whereas we're amateurs.

1263
01:04:25,853 --> 01:04:28,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's what they're saying. So you know,

1264
01:04:28,893 --> 01:04:30,893
Speaker 4: you just have a better, better operation there.

1265
01:04:31,053 --> 01:04:33,493
Speaker 2: Okay for smart criminals, is what you said?

1266
01:04:33,573 --> 01:04:35,893
Speaker 4: This one and three King said terrible filters Apparently that

1267
01:04:35,893 --> 01:04:37,693
Speaker 4: that was the problem. I don't know. I don't know

1268
01:04:37,773 --> 01:04:40,613
Speaker 4: much about it. I'm not running a a weed growing

1269
01:04:40,653 --> 01:04:43,373
Speaker 4: operation myself, so you know, I'm learning at the moment

1270
01:04:43,613 --> 01:04:45,813
Speaker 4: we are, we're all learning how to run a weed

1271
01:04:45,853 --> 01:04:46,493
Speaker 4: growing operation.

1272
01:04:46,693 --> 01:04:48,693
Speaker 2: That's right. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1273
01:04:48,693 --> 01:04:50,813
Speaker 2: the number to call. Hey you can how are you doing.

1274
01:04:51,893 --> 01:04:52,733
Speaker 16: I'm good, I'm good.

1275
01:04:52,733 --> 01:04:55,333
Speaker 2: How are you very good? What's your thoughts about the

1276
01:04:55,493 --> 01:04:56,533
Speaker 2: cannabis bust ups.

1277
01:04:57,893 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 16: Well, I actually just wanted to speak from my own

1278
01:04:59,973 --> 01:05:03,773
Speaker 16: experience how it's a gift and a curse. So, you know,

1279
01:05:03,893 --> 01:05:06,813
Speaker 16: like it saved my life when I was thirteen, but

1280
01:05:06,893 --> 01:05:09,253
Speaker 16: then it caused a psychosis a couple of years ago,

1281
01:05:09,333 --> 01:05:11,253
Speaker 16: so it's a really hard one to you know, Like

1282
01:05:11,333 --> 01:05:14,733
Speaker 16: I have a legal prescription now and I choose not

1283
01:05:14,893 --> 01:05:18,653
Speaker 16: to use it, and I think legal is the best way.

1284
01:05:19,373 --> 01:05:22,333
Speaker 16: But then when I was thirteen, I wouldn't have been

1285
01:05:22,373 --> 01:05:24,893
Speaker 16: able to get it legally, and I swear to God

1286
01:05:24,933 --> 01:05:25,693
Speaker 16: it saved my life.

1287
01:05:26,013 --> 01:05:27,933
Speaker 17: So you know, how.

1288
01:05:27,813 --> 01:05:29,333
Speaker 4: Did it save your life? Cat?

1289
01:05:30,213 --> 01:05:32,453
Speaker 16: Well, it just made me realize that my life wasn't.

1290
01:05:32,213 --> 01:05:34,493
Speaker 6: That bad, right.

1291
01:05:34,773 --> 01:05:36,893
Speaker 16: It just put me in that headspace of oh what

1292
01:05:36,973 --> 01:05:38,893
Speaker 16: do you you know, why are you having problems?

1293
01:05:38,853 --> 01:05:39,853
Speaker 5: This is all right?

1294
01:05:40,933 --> 01:05:43,213
Speaker 4: So it opened the universe up to you and you

1295
01:05:43,253 --> 01:05:44,093
Speaker 4: saw the bigger picture.

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01:05:45,813 --> 01:05:46,333
Speaker 9: I guess.

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01:05:46,493 --> 01:05:46,813
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:05:47,093 --> 01:05:50,453
Speaker 16: Yeah, Like I honestly call it a gift in the curse.

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01:05:50,373 --> 01:05:55,853
Speaker 4: Because sorry, how you finished? What's the curse part of

1300
01:05:55,893 --> 01:05:56,253
Speaker 4: it for you?

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01:05:57,533 --> 01:06:02,493
Speaker 16: Well, just the addiction part of it. How when I

1302
01:06:02,533 --> 01:06:06,693
Speaker 16: am using, I will spend most of my time either

1303
01:06:06,773 --> 01:06:14,213
Speaker 16: smoking or revoltering getting smoke. Yeah, it's I sort of

1304
01:06:14,213 --> 01:06:16,253
Speaker 16: wish that I'd never used it in the first place.

1305
01:06:16,453 --> 01:06:18,933
Speaker 16: But then I feel like what would have happened if

1306
01:06:18,933 --> 01:06:19,893
Speaker 16: I hadn't have used it?

1307
01:06:20,493 --> 01:06:23,453
Speaker 4: And yeah, and now how was your motivation at school?

1308
01:06:23,493 --> 01:06:26,413
Speaker 4: So you see, you started smoking cannabis at thirteen? How

1309
01:06:27,253 --> 01:06:30,213
Speaker 4: did you continue? Did you achieve well at school? Did

1310
01:06:30,253 --> 01:06:32,253
Speaker 4: you find you had motivation for things in life?

1311
01:06:33,133 --> 01:06:34,093
Speaker 5: No? Not at all?

1312
01:06:34,653 --> 01:06:39,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, dropped down to school. Yeah, so I think I

1313
01:06:39,173 --> 01:06:42,133
Speaker 4: think that is a big problem with cannabis for young people,

1314
01:06:42,253 --> 01:06:46,373
Speaker 4: is that it SAPs their motivation to succeed. Would you

1315
01:06:46,373 --> 01:06:49,053
Speaker 4: say it makes boring things entertaining?

1316
01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:53,413
Speaker 16: Yes? Maybe if I had been able to use it

1317
01:06:53,453 --> 01:06:58,733
Speaker 16: at school, that might have been all right maybe. Oh, well,

1318
01:06:58,813 --> 01:07:00,693
Speaker 16: this is amazing. I want to learn about history.

1319
01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:04,373
Speaker 4: Yeah. I wonder how well you can deal with elgebra

1320
01:07:04,413 --> 01:07:09,253
Speaker 4: as a teenager whilst high be interesting. The experiments on.

1321
01:07:09,213 --> 01:07:12,533
Speaker 16: That, I mean as an adult now, Like I love

1322
01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:17,493
Speaker 16: to get into mathematical things when I'm wasted, right, Yeah,

1323
01:07:17,653 --> 01:07:19,293
Speaker 16: so you know, like a.

1324
01:07:19,293 --> 01:07:20,093
Speaker 19: Gift in the curse.

1325
01:07:20,133 --> 01:07:22,213
Speaker 16: So I don't know where we find I'm just trying

1326
01:07:22,213 --> 01:07:24,453
Speaker 16: to give my personal experience.

1327
01:07:26,493 --> 01:07:28,573
Speaker 4: What do you get do you. Are you smoking marijuana

1328
01:07:28,693 --> 01:07:30,293
Speaker 4: now often?

1329
01:07:30,573 --> 01:07:34,493
Speaker 16: No, No, I haven't, but I noticed so I go

1330
01:07:34,613 --> 01:07:37,493
Speaker 16: for like three to six months without smoking a minute.

1331
01:07:37,773 --> 01:07:40,933
Speaker 16: I just sort of into this depression thing, and then

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01:07:40,973 --> 01:07:45,013
Speaker 16: I use for maybe a week to sometimes four or

1333
01:07:45,093 --> 01:07:47,493
Speaker 16: five six weeks, and then I stopped. And I'm on

1334
01:07:47,853 --> 01:07:50,653
Speaker 16: this pattern, and I'm not sure if I've caused this

1335
01:07:50,813 --> 01:07:53,973
Speaker 16: problem by smoking so much for so long, and also

1336
01:07:54,013 --> 01:07:54,853
Speaker 16: as a teenager.

1337
01:07:55,813 --> 01:07:59,133
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that doesn't sound like an addiction

1338
01:07:59,253 --> 01:08:02,333
Speaker 2: to me. Kat Is that more that you're using that

1339
01:08:02,413 --> 01:08:04,973
Speaker 2: as almost a medicine for you, that that's how you're

1340
01:08:05,053 --> 01:08:07,573
Speaker 2: coping with with a bit of a lulling your own

1341
01:08:07,613 --> 01:08:11,773
Speaker 2: mental health rather than something.

1342
01:08:09,333 --> 01:08:13,973
Speaker 16: That now it is as an adult, Like I'm forty now,

1343
01:08:14,893 --> 01:08:17,173
Speaker 16: but this voice does not sound forty.

1344
01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:19,973
Speaker 4: I thought you were like that twenty one or something.

1345
01:08:20,893 --> 01:08:23,732
Speaker 16: Well, thank you, thank you, but you know, like it

1346
01:08:23,853 --> 01:08:26,532
Speaker 16: wasn't like it is now, say a decade ago for me.

1347
01:08:26,652 --> 01:08:30,293
Speaker 16: So I don't know whether longtime use has caused this

1348
01:08:30,532 --> 01:08:35,173
Speaker 16: issue with me. Like I have other mental issues that

1349
01:08:35,452 --> 01:08:38,253
Speaker 16: they're not they're pretty mild, but I don't know if

1350
01:08:38,293 --> 01:08:39,692
Speaker 16: that's because of cannabis or not.

1351
01:08:39,893 --> 01:08:46,133
Speaker 4: You know, are you a functioning member of society generally speaking. Yes, yes,

1352
01:08:46,253 --> 01:08:50,492
Speaker 4: so you're you're employed and life's pretty.

1353
01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:53,772
Speaker 16: Pretty un employed. I am starting a business actually at the.

1354
01:08:53,812 --> 01:08:57,053
Speaker 4: Moment, right, So you're looking to be an employer.

1355
01:08:57,933 --> 01:09:03,532
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, now my company yeah.

1356
01:09:03,412 --> 01:09:06,053
Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah, it's a plant based fires love it.

1357
01:09:06,412 --> 01:09:07,692
Speaker 4: That sounds like the kind of thing that you might

1358
01:09:07,732 --> 01:09:12,053
Speaker 4: sell to someone. It's just been smoking marijuana, now, Cat,

1359
01:09:12,812 --> 01:09:15,412
Speaker 4: how do you get your marijuana when you are on

1360
01:09:15,692 --> 01:09:18,132
Speaker 4: the you know, when you're in a smoking phase.

1361
01:09:19,532 --> 01:09:22,652
Speaker 16: So I have a prescription and I use that, but

1362
01:09:22,732 --> 01:09:25,812
Speaker 16: I find it it's very extensive and it's not as

1363
01:09:26,173 --> 01:09:28,253
Speaker 16: good as I guess getting.

1364
01:09:29,772 --> 01:09:31,653
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you feel.

1365
01:09:31,452 --> 01:09:35,492
Speaker 4: Do you feel concerned at all that the marijuana you

1366
01:09:35,532 --> 01:09:42,372
Speaker 4: buy illegally, as you know, probably gang related and might

1367
01:09:42,412 --> 01:09:45,333
Speaker 4: be causing harm across the community in other ways.

1368
01:09:47,213 --> 01:09:49,852
Speaker 16: To be honest, I've never really thought about it, and

1369
01:09:49,893 --> 01:09:52,572
Speaker 16: I don't know that sounds bad, but that's the truth.

1370
01:09:52,652 --> 01:09:55,973
Speaker 16: I've never put that thought in my head of oh

1371
01:09:56,133 --> 01:10:00,333
Speaker 16: is this I'm just like looking for a high.

1372
01:10:00,053 --> 01:10:01,133
Speaker 19: I guess and a fix.

1373
01:10:01,692 --> 01:10:03,532
Speaker 4: Oh well, hey, thank you so much for your call, Cat,

1374
01:10:03,612 --> 01:10:05,532
Speaker 4: and good luck with your pie business.

1375
01:10:05,612 --> 01:10:08,812
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1376
01:10:08,853 --> 01:10:10,932
Speaker 2: to call, will get to a few of your texts. Well,

1377
01:10:10,973 --> 01:10:13,492
Speaker 2: it is seventeen to three.

1378
01:10:14,093 --> 01:10:17,652
Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

1379
01:10:17,893 --> 01:10:20,492
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons News Talk.

1380
01:10:20,372 --> 01:10:23,253
Speaker 2: Said, be good afternoon. It is fourteen to three.

1381
01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:26,253
Speaker 4: This enterprise and three kings that you're talking about just

1382
01:10:26,293 --> 01:10:29,932
Speaker 4: along from nearly four thousand school children on the Mount

1383
01:10:30,013 --> 01:10:32,772
Speaker 4: Roskill Grammar, Intermediate and primary schools. And I'm guessing there

1384
01:10:32,812 --> 01:10:35,692
Speaker 4: was no police resources used in tracking it down, only

1385
01:10:35,732 --> 01:10:39,412
Speaker 4: busting it all. Your callers who want to legalize it,

1386
01:10:39,452 --> 01:10:41,692
Speaker 4: if they drive a digger and kill your workmate, will

1387
01:10:41,692 --> 01:10:44,612
Speaker 4: they be liable? I mean, I mean the obvious point

1388
01:10:44,612 --> 01:10:47,652
Speaker 4: to that is, you know alcohol is legal, yeah, and

1389
01:10:48,093 --> 01:10:50,372
Speaker 4: you can definitely do some damage driving a digger when

1390
01:10:50,372 --> 01:10:51,532
Speaker 4: you're drunk, that's for sure.

1391
01:10:51,572 --> 01:10:54,532
Speaker 2: Absolutely. One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

1392
01:10:54,572 --> 01:10:56,692
Speaker 2: Good Ay, John, Okay?

1393
01:10:57,213 --> 01:11:00,173
Speaker 20: How do you want to point out something? Yep, next

1394
01:11:00,293 --> 01:11:03,532
Speaker 20: teen is a class seed drug. Alcohol is a class

1395
01:11:03,572 --> 01:11:07,692
Speaker 20: see drug. Marijuana is a class seed drug. Why are

1396
01:11:07,692 --> 01:11:09,572
Speaker 20: they different? So each different sons?

1397
01:11:10,933 --> 01:11:14,213
Speaker 4: Hm hmm, I don't know. I guess someone has written

1398
01:11:14,253 --> 01:11:16,932
Speaker 4: up the laws to be different for different because they're

1399
01:11:17,013 --> 01:11:19,612
Speaker 4: very different things. I imagine there's just different ways of

1400
01:11:19,652 --> 01:11:22,253
Speaker 4: dealing with things. They have different effects on people.

1401
01:11:23,612 --> 01:11:29,932
Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm just pointing out that are used to Well

1402
01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:32,612
Speaker 20: are we blunt? Really blunt?

1403
01:11:35,492 --> 01:11:35,732
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1404
01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:40,612
Speaker 4: I know, I'll laugh at any pun. Sorry sorry, John,

1405
01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:41,452
Speaker 4: you continue?

1406
01:11:42,692 --> 01:11:44,892
Speaker 2: Just you go, yep, carry.

1407
01:11:46,253 --> 01:11:48,253
Speaker 20: I go for an ounce and by the day.

1408
01:11:49,173 --> 01:11:51,532
Speaker 4: Wow, how did you afford that?

1409
01:11:51,812 --> 01:11:52,012
Speaker 6: Yep?

1410
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:54,732
Speaker 20: Oh it was good makes with the dealer?

1411
01:11:55,492 --> 01:11:55,812
Speaker 15: Right?

1412
01:11:56,293 --> 01:11:59,492
Speaker 4: Wow? Do you think that affected you? And from what

1413
01:11:59,532 --> 01:12:01,372
Speaker 4: age are you saying that you were doing that?

1414
01:12:01,492 --> 01:12:10,772
Speaker 20: John eighteen eighteen, Yeah, yep. The prob im king to

1415
01:12:10,973 --> 01:12:16,372
Speaker 20: get at is that, well, everything being in Class C,

1416
01:12:17,412 --> 01:12:20,532
Speaker 20: you know alcohol, next team, you.

1417
01:12:20,492 --> 01:12:23,213
Speaker 5: Know where are used to live?

1418
01:12:23,492 --> 01:12:27,612
Speaker 20: Up until about four months ago there was a babe

1419
01:12:27,692 --> 01:12:31,452
Speaker 20: shop at less than fifteen meters from the primary school

1420
01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:36,452
Speaker 20: m in the area that you're talking about Three Kings.

1421
01:12:37,053 --> 01:12:44,652
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, well Mount Rascal, Yeah, Mount Rascal. So my

1422
01:12:44,812 --> 01:12:48,572
Speaker 20: question to everybody out there is why if it's all

1423
01:12:48,612 --> 01:12:53,172
Speaker 20: classes of a Class C, why are there different rules?

1424
01:12:54,253 --> 01:12:55,852
Speaker 4: Yeeah, we should look into that. I'm not I'm not

1425
01:12:55,893 --> 01:12:57,772
Speaker 4: sure why that is. We should look into it. Yeah,

1426
01:12:57,772 --> 01:12:59,253
Speaker 4: and wh the different rules are?

1427
01:12:59,412 --> 01:13:01,013
Speaker 2: And I just tried to have a look at the

1428
01:13:01,093 --> 01:13:04,133
Speaker 2: classifications under Class C. I don't think alcohol is a

1429
01:13:04,133 --> 01:13:07,532
Speaker 2: Class C drug. Things like coding clearly are. But you've

1430
01:13:07,572 --> 01:13:09,692
Speaker 2: got to go get a pretty description for that. Things

1431
01:13:09,732 --> 01:13:12,652
Speaker 2: like alcohol that's readily sold across the counter, I don't

1432
01:13:12,652 --> 01:13:16,093
Speaker 2: believe falls into the Class C category. But we will

1433
01:13:16,133 --> 01:13:18,372
Speaker 2: get some more information on that. Thank you very much.

1434
01:13:18,692 --> 01:13:19,932
Speaker 4: Announce today is a lot.

1435
01:13:20,213 --> 01:13:22,333
Speaker 2: That is a lot. Yeah, that is a a lot.

1436
01:13:22,412 --> 01:13:24,652
Speaker 4: It's a poor argument. So naive to think that if

1437
01:13:24,652 --> 01:13:26,973
Speaker 4: the gangs lost the weed market they'd pack up and

1438
01:13:27,053 --> 01:13:29,732
Speaker 4: go home. No, they're going to diversify even more into

1439
01:13:29,772 --> 01:13:32,053
Speaker 4: p and other terrible drugs. That's from Chris this point

1440
01:13:32,053 --> 01:13:32,372
Speaker 4: of view.

1441
01:13:32,452 --> 01:13:34,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. Right. Oh, one hundred and

1442
01:13:34,652 --> 01:13:38,973
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the numbered call. It is eleven

1443
01:13:39,013 --> 01:13:40,372
Speaker 2: to three.

1444
01:13:40,933 --> 01:13:43,652
Speaker 6: When an authentic specific getaway like no other.

1445
01:13:43,893 --> 01:13:46,732
Speaker 1: Thanks to New A Island call now for eight hundred

1446
01:13:46,812 --> 01:13:51,172
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty used talk SEDB the Issues that affect

1447
01:13:51,213 --> 01:13:53,572
Speaker 1: you and a bit of fun along the way, Matt

1448
01:13:53,612 --> 01:13:56,333
Speaker 1: and Taylor Afternoons used talks EDB.

1449
01:13:58,933 --> 01:14:02,093
Speaker 6: When an authentic Pacific getaway like no other. Thanks to

1450
01:14:02,253 --> 01:14:02,532
Speaker 6: New A.

1451
01:14:02,572 --> 01:14:05,693
Speaker 1: Island and Matt Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons.

1452
01:14:07,013 --> 01:14:11,012
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. There's your opportunity to win

1453
01:14:11,093 --> 01:14:13,933
Speaker 2: five hundred bucks cash and go into the drawer for

1454
01:14:13,973 --> 01:14:18,053
Speaker 2: the ultimate island escape. Return flights for four to New

1455
01:14:18,133 --> 01:14:21,452
Speaker 2: Way seven nights four or four in deluxe rooms, including

1456
01:14:21,492 --> 01:14:24,452
Speaker 2: daily breakfast. Choice of either a one day fishing charter

1457
01:14:24,532 --> 01:14:27,253
Speaker 2: for four or a day's dive snorkeling charter, seven day

1458
01:14:27,333 --> 01:14:31,652
Speaker 2: vehicle rental an island tour. Absolutely incredible price, all thanks

1459
01:14:31,692 --> 01:14:36,412
Speaker 2: to the beautiful New Way Islands. But first, oh, one

1460
01:14:36,492 --> 01:14:39,612
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty, if you can get through, keep trying.

1461
01:14:40,133 --> 01:14:42,932
Speaker 2: First you have to answer the daily question for that

1462
01:14:42,973 --> 01:14:45,253
Speaker 2: five hundred bucks cash and to go into the drawer.

1463
01:14:45,452 --> 01:14:48,812
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones now, Emily, very good afternoon.

1464
01:14:49,372 --> 01:14:50,173
Speaker 9: Good afternoon.

1465
01:14:50,572 --> 01:14:51,253
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?

1466
01:14:52,652 --> 01:15:00,812
Speaker 4: Ne okay, Emily, Okay, this question for five hundred dollars. Emily.

1467
01:15:00,893 --> 01:15:03,172
Speaker 4: Once I read the question out, you've got five seconds

1468
01:15:03,213 --> 01:15:04,933
Speaker 4: to answer. You get five hundred dollars and you're in

1469
01:15:04,933 --> 01:15:11,293
Speaker 4: the drawer. Okay. Are you ready? No, you're not ready. Okay,

1470
01:15:11,452 --> 01:15:16,013
Speaker 4: take a breath and then we'll go big breath. Now,

1471
01:15:16,013 --> 01:15:20,372
Speaker 4: are you ready? Yeah, all right, you've got this, which

1472
01:15:20,893 --> 01:15:24,532
Speaker 4: magazine Emily named New a as a place to visit

1473
01:15:24,612 --> 01:15:26,893
Speaker 4: in five That's great.

1474
01:15:26,772 --> 01:15:31,572
Speaker 2: Didn't they even need that timer? Well done, Emily, fantastic.

1475
01:15:30,853 --> 01:15:32,293
Speaker 4: One hundred bucks for you, Emily.

1476
01:15:33,652 --> 01:15:34,692
Speaker 21: Yeah, thanks so much.

1477
01:15:34,732 --> 01:15:35,372
Speaker 9: It's amazing.

1478
01:15:35,692 --> 01:15:38,132
Speaker 2: And you go into the drawer for that ultimate prize,

1479
01:15:38,173 --> 01:15:40,253
Speaker 2: a trip to New Way if you win that, Emily,

1480
01:15:40,253 --> 01:15:42,732
Speaker 2: who would you take? You can get another three people.

1481
01:15:43,893 --> 01:15:47,452
Speaker 19: I'd take my husband and my two kids, my daughter

1482
01:15:47,452 --> 01:15:50,372
Speaker 19: Brianna who's eleven, and yeah, I'd love it.

1483
01:15:50,612 --> 01:15:53,173
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, all the best you Emily. You're in the

1484
01:15:53,253 --> 01:15:55,813
Speaker 2: drawer and enjoy that five hundred dollars cash.

1485
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:58,253
Speaker 4: Would you do that one day fishing charter or would

1486
01:15:58,293 --> 01:15:59,852
Speaker 4: you do the dive snorkeling charter?

1487
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:02,372
Speaker 13: I think would go snorkling?

1488
01:16:02,412 --> 01:16:04,493
Speaker 19: That would I'd love to do that.

1489
01:16:05,652 --> 01:16:08,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, crystal clear waters, Emily, crystal.

1490
01:16:08,452 --> 01:16:11,372
Speaker 2: Clear eighty meter visibility. Can you imagine that?

1491
01:16:12,692 --> 01:16:13,652
Speaker 19: I can't imagine that.

1492
01:16:13,692 --> 01:16:14,812
Speaker 6: That's why I really want to.

1493
01:16:14,732 --> 01:16:20,932
Speaker 2: Work all of Emily. Thank you very much and well done. Yes,

1494
01:16:21,013 --> 01:16:23,412
Speaker 2: So we are going to be announcing the grand winner

1495
01:16:24,013 --> 01:16:28,012
Speaker 2: for that amazing prize tomorrow afternoon. And just a reminder

1496
01:16:28,492 --> 01:16:30,932
Speaker 2: for anybody who wants to enter, there is still time.

1497
01:16:30,973 --> 01:16:33,293
Speaker 2: You've got to go to newstalk zb dot co dot

1498
01:16:33,412 --> 01:16:38,372
Speaker 2: nz slash adventure and then enter the answer to today's

1499
01:16:38,452 --> 01:16:40,932
Speaker 2: question and you're in that draw for that grand price.

1500
01:16:41,572 --> 01:16:43,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, go and do it right now.

1501
01:16:43,013 --> 01:16:47,772
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. We'll get back to a few texts on cannabis.

1502
01:16:47,812 --> 01:16:49,852
Speaker 2: So one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

1503
01:16:50,412 --> 01:16:53,333
Speaker 2: And we have been chatting about the resources police resources

1504
01:16:53,333 --> 01:16:55,732
Speaker 2: that are going into cannabis bust ups. On the back

1505
01:16:55,772 --> 01:16:58,812
Speaker 2: of a bust up in three Kings, gooday guys saying

1506
01:16:58,853 --> 01:17:01,652
Speaker 2: gangs will get into meth et cetera if they lose

1507
01:17:01,692 --> 01:17:04,652
Speaker 2: the weed market. As a stupid argument, there's nothing stopping

1508
01:17:04,652 --> 01:17:09,253
Speaker 2: them from diversifying into flower arranging or cup making, but

1509
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:09,772
Speaker 2: they won't.

1510
01:17:09,853 --> 01:17:10,213
Speaker 5: Why not?

1511
01:17:10,692 --> 01:17:12,213
Speaker 2: Why can't they go? Legitimates?

1512
01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:12,812
Speaker 9: Is the text?

1513
01:17:13,173 --> 01:17:16,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, why can't they said? Former weed industry guy here

1514
01:17:16,213 --> 01:17:18,333
Speaker 4: managed to get a job doing content for a big

1515
01:17:18,412 --> 01:17:21,052
Speaker 4: keyw WE firm for five years. Should be legal, should

1516
01:17:21,053 --> 01:17:23,652
Speaker 4: be able to grow a plant per person like in Thailand.

1517
01:17:23,692 --> 01:17:26,372
Speaker 4: Take the profit out of it. Weed companies New Zealand

1518
01:17:26,372 --> 01:17:28,812
Speaker 4: will never be profitable due to the crazy regulations and

1519
01:17:28,812 --> 01:17:32,093
Speaker 4: the people who we need it lost can't afford that.

1520
01:17:33,173 --> 01:17:36,293
Speaker 4: People that need it most can't afford that subscription and

1521
01:17:36,372 --> 01:17:39,213
Speaker 4: a turn to the black market. Labor could have legalized

1522
01:17:39,253 --> 01:17:42,213
Speaker 4: but didn't when they should have. It's an absolute waste

1523
01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:44,133
Speaker 4: of police money, says this text.

1524
01:17:44,452 --> 01:17:46,572
Speaker 2: Yep, And this one says, getto guys, when do you

1525
01:17:46,652 --> 01:17:50,333
Speaker 2: ever hear of a weed problem? Saturday night? Weed brules,

1526
01:17:50,372 --> 01:17:53,692
Speaker 2: weed smokers, assaulting hospital way and ease staff. Never is

1527
01:17:53,732 --> 01:17:55,852
Speaker 2: the answer. It is just not that big of a problem.

1528
01:17:56,013 --> 01:17:59,013
Speaker 4: But the problem is, you know, the counter argument that

1529
01:17:59,053 --> 01:18:01,053
Speaker 4: you may not see the weed problem unless you've got

1530
01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:04,333
Speaker 4: a teenage kid and they're just sitting on the couch

1531
01:18:04,692 --> 01:18:08,173
Speaker 4: watching boring infommercials or boring stuff and being entertained and

1532
01:18:09,213 --> 01:18:10,972
Speaker 4: you know, not getting on with their lives.

1533
01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:13,173
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. Thank you very much for all the phone

1534
01:18:13,213 --> 01:18:17,132
Speaker 2: calls and text great discussion right coming up after three o'clock.

1535
01:18:17,492 --> 01:18:21,572
Speaker 2: Is quitting alcohol really the only way to lose bally

1536
01:18:21,652 --> 01:18:24,173
Speaker 2: fat once you hit a certain age. That is the

1537
01:18:24,253 --> 01:18:26,213
Speaker 2: question we're going to put to you. Oh, eight hundred

1538
01:18:26,372 --> 01:18:28,973
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you

1539
01:18:28,973 --> 01:18:30,812
Speaker 2: want to send a text more than welcome nine to

1540
01:18:30,893 --> 01:18:34,093
Speaker 2: nine to new Sport and where they're coming up. You're

1541
01:18:34,093 --> 01:18:36,852
Speaker 2: listening to Matt and Tyler, Very good afternoon to you.

1542
01:18:36,933 --> 01:18:47,973
Speaker 2: Great to have your company. As always.

1543
01:18:45,933 --> 01:18:50,453
Speaker 1: Your new home are instateful and entertaining Talk It's Mattie

1544
01:18:50,492 --> 01:18:53,572
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1545
01:18:53,692 --> 01:18:54,092
Speaker 6: Sevy.

1546
01:18:55,492 --> 01:18:58,772
Speaker 2: Good up and welcome back into the show. Seven past three.

1547
01:18:58,853 --> 01:19:01,133
Speaker 2: Just before we move on to the next topic, we've

1548
01:19:01,133 --> 01:19:03,892
Speaker 2: had so many texts about cannabis that we wanted to

1549
01:19:03,893 --> 01:19:05,372
Speaker 2: get to a few more.

1550
01:19:06,973 --> 01:19:10,133
Speaker 4: This Texas says, where would have paid for the America's

1551
01:19:10,173 --> 01:19:13,492
Speaker 4: Cup if we'd legalized it? And yachting is better when

1552
01:19:13,532 --> 01:19:17,213
Speaker 4: you're stoned? Is watching gotting biting in stone or actually

1553
01:19:17,293 --> 01:19:19,093
Speaker 4: yachting when you're bidding the stone? I don't know if

1554
01:19:19,333 --> 01:19:23,012
Speaker 4: you'd want Chucky on up on the foils after he's

1555
01:19:23,013 --> 01:19:24,333
Speaker 4: been on the foils, if you know what I'm.

1556
01:19:24,173 --> 01:19:26,213
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah exactly. Well, if you get a boom knocking

1557
01:19:26,253 --> 01:19:27,932
Speaker 2: you into the ocean, is that good when you're high

1558
01:19:27,973 --> 01:19:28,972
Speaker 2: on cannabis? I don't know.

1559
01:19:30,732 --> 01:19:32,652
Speaker 4: A's physically We had a text to before that was

1560
01:19:32,652 --> 01:19:34,412
Speaker 4: saying there on an ounce a day, it is physically

1561
01:19:34,412 --> 01:19:36,812
Speaker 4: impossible to smoke an ounce a day. Old mate is

1562
01:19:36,812 --> 01:19:39,213
Speaker 4: telling fairy tales that would be one hundred joints or

1563
01:19:39,253 --> 01:19:44,293
Speaker 4: more four per hour, even while he's sleeping. The six

1564
01:19:44,333 --> 01:19:46,932
Speaker 4: is four guys are drunk on alcohol will start a fight.

1565
01:19:47,013 --> 01:19:49,452
Speaker 4: Four guys stone on weed will start a band. Yeah,

1566
01:19:49,532 --> 01:19:51,293
Speaker 4: they might, or they might just never get round to

1567
01:19:51,333 --> 01:19:54,812
Speaker 4: starting a band. Yeah, there's another one. I'm in my

1568
01:19:54,893 --> 01:19:58,732
Speaker 4: mid forties. Sorry, that's on to the next topic. Yeah,

1569
01:19:58,732 --> 01:20:00,932
Speaker 4: look at the damage cannabis has done to the Green Party.

1570
01:20:01,013 --> 01:20:03,333
Speaker 4: Not one coherent, sensible idea out of a lot of them.

1571
01:20:03,893 --> 01:20:08,932
Speaker 4: Of course, it causes social harm. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, there

1572
01:20:08,973 --> 01:20:11,812
Speaker 4: we go. In Canada, pre rolls are five gram so

1573
01:20:11,853 --> 01:20:15,133
Speaker 4: an ounce would be sixty four pre rolls. So you're wrong.

1574
01:20:15,173 --> 01:20:17,213
Speaker 4: That's similar to smoking three packs of cigarette day. It's

1575
01:20:17,253 --> 01:20:19,652
Speaker 4: hard work, but it is doable. You'd have to build

1576
01:20:19,692 --> 01:20:22,253
Speaker 4: up a tolerance though. So we're getting conflicting information and

1577
01:20:22,293 --> 01:20:26,133
Speaker 4: the guy that's smoking an ounce to day, Yeah.

1578
01:20:25,452 --> 01:20:28,132
Speaker 2: Cannabis mathematics. But if he could do that, that's impressive

1579
01:20:28,133 --> 01:20:28,532
Speaker 2: either way.

1580
01:20:28,893 --> 01:20:31,532
Speaker 4: Someone's saying it's impossible, someone's saying it's possible, but it

1581
01:20:31,572 --> 01:20:33,333
Speaker 4: will be a lot of hard work to get through it.

1582
01:20:33,452 --> 01:20:35,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a grind to get to that point, right,

1583
01:20:35,893 --> 01:20:37,612
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that. And I think the

1584
01:20:37,652 --> 01:20:42,412
Speaker 2: consensus Matt was that the resources would probably be better

1585
01:20:42,572 --> 01:20:44,653
Speaker 2: used tackling something like methmfetamine.

1586
01:20:44,732 --> 01:20:48,412
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's right. This person says, good afternoon, Matt.

1587
01:20:48,492 --> 01:20:51,812
Speaker 4: Entire meth, cocaine and heroin are far worse than we'd

1588
01:20:51,853 --> 01:20:53,892
Speaker 4: thank you, Kristin. I think we all agree with that.

1589
01:20:54,013 --> 01:20:57,133
Speaker 4: But you know, if someone's doing if it's illegal, then

1590
01:20:57,173 --> 01:20:59,052
Speaker 4: it's hard to tell the police not to do anything

1591
01:20:59,213 --> 01:21:01,892
Speaker 4: about it. And their point of view is that they're

1592
01:21:01,973 --> 01:21:06,092
Speaker 4: smashing up growing systems because they're often run by gangs,

1593
01:21:06,253 --> 01:21:09,533
Speaker 4: and that is money that's used for the nefurious activity

1594
01:21:10,173 --> 01:21:11,053
Speaker 4: that gangs it up to.

1595
01:21:11,293 --> 01:21:14,013
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, looking forward to Vin a chat about this.

1596
01:21:14,173 --> 01:21:16,412
Speaker 2: It's a article in the Herald and the headline is

1597
01:21:16,412 --> 01:21:20,093
Speaker 2: the science of male middle age spread and how to

1598
01:21:20,133 --> 01:21:20,852
Speaker 2: get rid of It.

1599
01:21:21,532 --> 01:21:24,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is about ten pages. It's a big read.

1600
01:21:25,013 --> 01:21:26,933
Speaker 4: But what I've taken out of it after reading it

1601
01:21:26,973 --> 01:21:28,852
Speaker 4: a couple of times, because I'm very interested in this

1602
01:21:28,893 --> 01:21:31,692
Speaker 4: middle aged spread thing, even though I've got a rock

1603
01:21:31,692 --> 01:21:34,892
Speaker 4: and bod. There's no two ways about it. The effect

1604
01:21:34,933 --> 01:21:37,053
Speaker 4: of alkhaln weight and it sort of comes down to

1605
01:21:37,772 --> 01:21:41,972
Speaker 4: if you really want to lose the last of those

1606
01:21:42,013 --> 01:21:45,253
Speaker 4: moves and a last of that fat round the tummy.

1607
01:21:45,692 --> 01:21:48,132
Speaker 4: Then you're probably going to have to give up alcohol,

1608
01:21:48,412 --> 01:21:51,133
Speaker 4: and immediately when we said this before, Phil says, if

1609
01:21:51,173 --> 01:21:53,572
Speaker 4: it's giving up alcohol being a fat bugger forever, I'm

1610
01:21:53,612 --> 01:21:57,452
Speaker 4: going to remain a fat bugger forever. So when you drink,

1611
01:21:57,492 --> 01:22:01,333
Speaker 4: your body converts booze into acetate, which has the knock

1612
01:22:01,372 --> 01:22:04,772
Speaker 4: on effect of turning caibohydrates and protein into fat. And

1613
01:22:04,853 --> 01:22:07,133
Speaker 4: drinking leads to poor food choices with a late night

1614
01:22:07,173 --> 01:22:11,173
Speaker 4: snacking or rich foods to mop up your hangover. Drinking

1615
01:22:11,173 --> 01:22:14,933
Speaker 4: also disrupts your sleep, both in terms of quality and quantity,

1616
01:22:15,053 --> 01:22:18,333
Speaker 4: which according to research published by the Mayo Clinic, can

1617
01:22:18,412 --> 01:22:22,452
Speaker 4: lead to weight gain. So there's a whole list of

1618
01:22:23,013 --> 01:22:26,012
Speaker 4: reasons here why if you were, if you were drinking

1619
01:22:26,372 --> 01:22:29,772
Speaker 4: a reasonable amount, you're never actually going to be able

1620
01:22:29,812 --> 01:22:33,972
Speaker 4: to get word of that fat guts that beer belly.

1621
01:22:34,013 --> 01:22:35,812
Speaker 4: I mean, it's called a beer belly for a reason.

1622
01:22:36,253 --> 01:22:39,772
Speaker 4: Is this true? Are you a heavy drinker that's managed

1623
01:22:39,812 --> 01:22:44,333
Speaker 4: to stay beautifully healthy and spelt and you're rocking a

1624
01:22:44,492 --> 01:22:49,492
Speaker 4: decent body, or are you a drinker that has running

1625
01:22:50,412 --> 01:22:53,652
Speaker 4: a bit of a podgy rig but think it's worth

1626
01:22:53,692 --> 01:22:56,972
Speaker 4: it to keep the alcohol going. Oh you go, yeah,

1627
01:22:56,973 --> 01:22:59,652
Speaker 4: I mean obviously you're a big drinker. Looking at utiland offense.

1628
01:23:01,173 --> 01:23:03,372
Speaker 2: I yeah, I love a drink. I love a beer,

1629
01:23:03,452 --> 01:23:05,333
Speaker 2: and look at this body. It worked for me that

1630
01:23:05,412 --> 01:23:07,732
Speaker 2: I managed to have a really good body even though

1631
01:23:07,772 --> 01:23:09,492
Speaker 2: I smash the beer is from time to time.

1632
01:23:10,173 --> 01:23:11,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing body.

1633
01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:15,052
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so the question here is I think,

1634
01:23:15,293 --> 01:23:17,972
Speaker 2: and I've never done it myself, so I'm just assuming here.

1635
01:23:18,013 --> 01:23:21,852
Speaker 2: I think you can have some alcohol and still have

1636
01:23:21,933 --> 01:23:24,532
Speaker 2: a great body once you get over the age of forty.

1637
01:23:24,612 --> 01:23:27,692
Speaker 2: But it is the big nights, you know, having the

1638
01:23:28,572 --> 01:23:31,612
Speaker 2: ten beers on a Saturday night because it's someone's fortie's birthday,

1639
01:23:31,652 --> 01:23:34,572
Speaker 2: or you go to a wedding and you get pretty

1640
01:23:34,652 --> 01:23:38,213
Speaker 2: tipsy and smashback eight wines because it's a celebration. That

1641
01:23:38,372 --> 01:23:41,613
Speaker 2: is the behavior. I think that would be almost impossible

1642
01:23:41,612 --> 01:23:43,532
Speaker 2: to have a flat gut. That is my thoughts on it.

1643
01:23:44,412 --> 01:23:46,133
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean if it's every now and then,

1644
01:23:46,253 --> 01:23:48,372
Speaker 4: if it's just when your friend has a wedding and

1645
01:23:48,412 --> 01:23:53,852
Speaker 4: you have a blowout, then that's probably okay. But I mean,

1646
01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:55,452
Speaker 4: what is it. I mean, this is the whole thing

1647
01:23:55,452 --> 01:23:57,532
Speaker 4: and texts coming through. What is the level of alcohol.

1648
01:23:58,053 --> 01:24:00,692
Speaker 4: And you know, whenever we do these studies, people always

1649
01:24:00,732 --> 01:24:02,612
Speaker 4: lie about how much alcohol they drink. They'll go to

1650
01:24:02,692 --> 01:24:05,052
Speaker 4: the doctor. And I've done it before. For some reason,

1651
01:24:05,812 --> 01:24:08,013
Speaker 4: we lie to a doctor even though it's private. They

1652
01:24:08,093 --> 01:24:09,933
Speaker 4: say how much do you drink? And you go, oh,

1653
01:24:10,692 --> 01:24:13,052
Speaker 4: not much? Like how much would you say in units

1654
01:24:13,093 --> 01:24:16,772
Speaker 4: a week? Oh? Maybe ten? But what you mean as

1655
01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:20,972
Speaker 4: ten units three nights a week? You know. So it's

1656
01:24:20,973 --> 01:24:25,532
Speaker 4: really hard to get legitimate figures on it. But science

1657
01:24:25,572 --> 01:24:27,973
Speaker 4: says that even you know, a glass of wine with

1658
01:24:28,053 --> 01:24:31,173
Speaker 4: dinner is going to affect your sleep, and not having

1659
01:24:31,253 --> 01:24:36,133
Speaker 4: a quality sleep makes it harder to stay thin and exercise.

1660
01:24:36,652 --> 01:24:38,612
Speaker 2: You're very honest with your doctor. I'd never tell him

1661
01:24:38,612 --> 01:24:41,093
Speaker 2: I have ten a week. I'd stick around maybe three

1662
01:24:41,133 --> 01:24:44,093
Speaker 2: to four. And I know I'm not doing myself any

1663
01:24:44,093 --> 01:24:46,772
Speaker 2: favors here, but I just can't bring myself to say

1664
01:24:46,772 --> 01:24:51,372
Speaker 2: the doctor, yeah, yeah, I do easily. It does every

1665
01:24:51,372 --> 01:24:53,052
Speaker 2: couple of days. It'd be like, you're.

1666
01:24:52,933 --> 01:24:55,452
Speaker 4: Mad, yeah, and I mean my doctor's a Messiper said, so,

1667
01:24:55,492 --> 01:24:56,572
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm lying to him.

1668
01:24:57,652 --> 01:24:59,492
Speaker 2: Wait, you a glass of beer and says, do you want

1669
01:24:59,492 --> 01:24:59,812
Speaker 2: a drink?

1670
01:25:00,293 --> 01:25:01,813
Speaker 4: He's terrible on the booze.

1671
01:25:01,692 --> 01:25:06,452
Speaker 2: Oh night, ten eighty can you effectively lose weight while

1672
01:25:06,532 --> 01:25:10,013
Speaker 2: still drinking alcohol? Love to hear from you, You've been successful.

1673
01:25:10,253 --> 01:25:13,133
Speaker 2: And also that other question that you know if for

1674
01:25:13,173 --> 01:25:15,133
Speaker 2: a lot of people drinking alcohol or having a beer,

1675
01:25:15,173 --> 01:25:16,973
Speaker 2: that is one of the joys in life. So is

1676
01:25:16,973 --> 01:25:20,173
Speaker 2: it worth having somewhat of a dad bad a bit

1677
01:25:20,213 --> 01:25:23,452
Speaker 2: of a valet if you can enjoy the occasional drink,

1678
01:25:23,492 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 2: you know, that's the trade off.

1679
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:26,572
Speaker 4: How good looking do we need to be?

1680
01:25:26,772 --> 01:25:26,972
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1681
01:25:27,013 --> 01:25:29,892
Speaker 4: How rocking do our bods need to be? Is it

1682
01:25:29,933 --> 01:25:32,173
Speaker 4: better just have to allow yourself to have a few

1683
01:25:32,213 --> 01:25:34,053
Speaker 4: drinks in life? Yeah? One hundred and eighty ten eighty

1684
01:25:34,053 --> 01:25:34,532
Speaker 4: your thoughts?

1685
01:25:34,812 --> 01:25:38,653
Speaker 2: It is thirteen past three, back very shortly, good afternoon,

1686
01:25:38,732 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 2: sixteen past three, So giving up the booze? Is that

1687
01:25:41,253 --> 01:25:44,572
Speaker 2: the only way rarely to lose weight once you get

1688
01:25:44,612 --> 01:25:46,492
Speaker 2: past the age of maybe about forty.

1689
01:25:47,253 --> 01:25:50,372
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if that is the case, would you rather

1690
01:25:50,412 --> 01:25:51,972
Speaker 4: just like to be a little bit podgy and still

1691
01:25:52,013 --> 01:25:55,372
Speaker 4: be able to have your drinks? Dave your thoughts on

1692
01:25:55,412 --> 01:25:57,812
Speaker 4: your dad bod if you've got one.

1693
01:25:58,412 --> 01:26:01,772
Speaker 17: All right, guys, I've got an anecdote that will cross

1694
01:26:01,772 --> 01:26:05,652
Speaker 17: over both of the subjects. Okay, when I was forty,

1695
01:26:05,933 --> 01:26:08,773
Speaker 17: I was a heavy, heavy drinker. I was smoking soarette,

1696
01:26:09,053 --> 01:26:12,532
Speaker 17: smoking weed, and I was living a hell lifestyle. And

1697
01:26:12,853 --> 01:26:14,572
Speaker 17: I look back now and I should have had I

1698
01:26:14,652 --> 01:26:17,692
Speaker 17: should have locked a lot sooner. I got onto a

1699
01:26:17,692 --> 01:26:19,812
Speaker 17: weight glass diet and I went on a blood type diet,

1700
01:26:19,973 --> 01:26:23,213
Speaker 17: dropped thirty kgs, then had a heart attack.

1701
01:26:23,853 --> 01:26:24,492
Speaker 6: Oh WHOA.

1702
01:26:25,893 --> 01:26:29,133
Speaker 17: Survived the heart attack because I dropped the thirty kgs.

1703
01:26:29,772 --> 01:26:32,812
Speaker 17: Right now, I don't drink it all. I don't smoke

1704
01:26:32,853 --> 01:26:35,452
Speaker 17: at all, but I do smoke cannabis every day. And

1705
01:26:35,492 --> 01:26:40,052
Speaker 17: I work a really hard physical job and I'm fifty

1706
01:26:40,053 --> 01:26:42,492
Speaker 17: seven and I'm in pretty good dam shape.

1707
01:26:43,173 --> 01:26:46,213
Speaker 4: So do you think that your the heart attack that

1708
01:26:46,293 --> 01:26:48,973
Speaker 4: you did have was because of the time that you

1709
01:26:49,093 --> 01:26:52,293
Speaker 4: spent when you were that had that thirty kg's on?

1710
01:26:53,572 --> 01:26:56,572
Speaker 17: I love, it's nothing to do with it, but I'm

1711
01:26:56,612 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 17: pretty sure it was.

1712
01:26:57,532 --> 01:27:01,572
Speaker 4: Mant right, yeah, right, And you've you've you've managed to

1713
01:27:01,612 --> 01:27:02,333
Speaker 4: keep that weight off.

1714
01:27:03,372 --> 01:27:05,852
Speaker 17: Yep. It's a bit of a battle. But I also

1715
01:27:05,933 --> 01:27:08,572
Speaker 17: do intermitute fasting, so like I've just come off three

1716
01:27:08,652 --> 01:27:13,532
Speaker 17: day fast and that just just, honestly, it's so good.

1717
01:27:13,532 --> 01:27:15,372
Speaker 17: I don't know why people aren't taught this in school.

1718
01:27:15,612 --> 01:27:16,492
Speaker 5: Yeah, so good for you.

1719
01:27:16,732 --> 01:27:19,293
Speaker 2: Do you in genuine question, Dave, do you smoke cannabis

1720
01:27:19,333 --> 01:27:21,412
Speaker 2: when you're fasting? That must be pretty difficult.

1721
01:27:22,732 --> 01:27:27,532
Speaker 17: Yeah, I do, and it doesn't help. But no, mate,

1722
01:27:27,532 --> 01:27:28,533
Speaker 17: it's just this willpower.

1723
01:27:28,572 --> 01:27:28,732
Speaker 11: You know.

1724
01:27:29,053 --> 01:27:31,452
Speaker 17: I don't smoke to sit on the couch and vegetate.

1725
01:27:31,492 --> 01:27:33,412
Speaker 17: I am an active smoker. I've got things to do.

1726
01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:37,653
Speaker 2: I mean that can be for some people who smoke cannabis.

1727
01:27:38,213 --> 01:27:40,573
Speaker 2: Some go the way of just loading up the PlayStation

1728
01:27:40,772 --> 01:27:43,213
Speaker 2: and veging out. But some thin go your way, Dave,

1729
01:27:43,293 --> 01:27:45,973
Speaker 2: where you know they get this energy to do some

1730
01:27:46,053 --> 01:27:47,973
Speaker 2: houseworker in your case, go for a run or do

1731
01:27:48,013 --> 01:27:48,612
Speaker 2: some exercise.

1732
01:27:49,612 --> 01:27:52,213
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly me, mate. I mean I work

1733
01:27:52,333 --> 01:27:55,133
Speaker 17: four days, but it's really physical and on the other

1734
01:27:55,213 --> 01:27:58,052
Speaker 17: days I ride thirty k's on my biat and I'm

1735
01:27:58,452 --> 01:28:00,732
Speaker 17: usually high.

1736
01:28:00,853 --> 01:28:07,692
Speaker 5: Yep. Done. All right?

1737
01:28:07,772 --> 01:28:10,452
Speaker 4: Hey, think you some for you? Call Dave, and I'm

1738
01:28:10,492 --> 01:28:13,812
Speaker 4: glad that your health has improved. And thank god you

1739
01:28:13,853 --> 01:28:16,172
Speaker 4: survive that that heart attack. It would have been terrible

1740
01:28:16,213 --> 01:28:18,173
Speaker 4: to lose you from this world.

1741
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:21,492
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this sticks toss guys. As a regular bear drinker.

1742
01:28:21,532 --> 01:28:23,412
Speaker 2: All you need to do to lose weight the beer

1743
01:28:23,452 --> 01:28:26,492
Speaker 2: belly is to swap from standard beer to low carb beer.

1744
01:28:26,572 --> 01:28:28,892
Speaker 2: Less carbs equal less fat, don't need to change anything

1745
01:28:28,893 --> 01:28:30,092
Speaker 2: else about your lifestyle.

1746
01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:33,732
Speaker 4: Chairs That's interesting because a lot of people have been

1747
01:28:33,772 --> 01:28:35,972
Speaker 4: saying that whether it's low carb or not, it affects

1748
01:28:35,973 --> 01:28:42,133
Speaker 4: your sleep, which can affect your weight. And also you know,

1749
01:28:42,173 --> 01:28:44,892
Speaker 4: it can slow your metabolism. So whatever you eat, because

1750
01:28:44,973 --> 01:28:48,052
Speaker 4: the beer is have the alcohols having to be processed

1751
01:28:48,053 --> 01:28:50,772
Speaker 4: in your body, you don't process your food at the

1752
01:28:50,812 --> 01:28:53,372
Speaker 4: same rate, and your metabolism slows and you put on weight.

1753
01:28:53,412 --> 01:28:56,572
Speaker 4: So it's a complicated system that we're running inside our

1754
01:28:57,173 --> 01:29:02,532
Speaker 4: dad bods, Tyler. My doctor told me they always double

1755
01:29:02,572 --> 01:29:05,852
Speaker 4: what you tell them. My husband sixty eight has a

1756
01:29:05,973 --> 01:29:08,093
Speaker 4: rock hard body due to walking and biking over two

1757
01:29:08,572 --> 01:29:11,412
Speaker 4: cas per week. He needs it as I'm bed bound,

1758
01:29:11,532 --> 01:29:13,972
Speaker 4: so he has to live a life that I can't.

1759
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:15,972
Speaker 4: I'm so very lucky to have him. A friend said,

1760
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:19,293
Speaker 4: it's a wonder he hadn't left me Lowell never, he

1761
01:29:19,372 --> 01:29:22,372
Speaker 4: never would. He's trustworthy regards. There you go. It's lovely,

1762
01:29:22,452 --> 01:29:26,732
Speaker 4: lovely text, isn't it. But yeah, I mean, because I

1763
01:29:26,732 --> 01:29:28,852
Speaker 4: was saying before that, you know, I like to my

1764
01:29:28,933 --> 01:29:32,213
Speaker 4: doctor when he asks me how much I drink and

1765
01:29:32,253 --> 01:29:34,532
Speaker 4: I don't know why I do it, And it sounds

1766
01:29:34,532 --> 01:29:36,372
Speaker 4: like doctors are wise to that and double.

1767
01:29:36,133 --> 01:29:39,732
Speaker 2: It and there is smart people. Yeah, Lauren, how are

1768
01:29:39,772 --> 01:29:40,492
Speaker 2: you this afternoon?

1769
01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:41,532
Speaker 19: Not bad?

1770
01:29:41,612 --> 01:29:41,933
Speaker 18: Thank you?

1771
01:29:42,333 --> 01:29:43,532
Speaker 2: Dead bods talk to us.

1772
01:29:44,772 --> 01:29:47,093
Speaker 18: Well, I just wanted to share with you something that

1773
01:29:47,173 --> 01:29:49,133
Speaker 18: I have on my fridge that I found a number

1774
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:52,092
Speaker 18: of years ago. The said life isn't all about arriving

1775
01:29:52,133 --> 01:29:55,852
Speaker 18: at the early gates with a perfectly groomed body. It's

1776
01:29:55,893 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 18: all about arriving there with it. Bring him one hand,

1777
01:29:58,772 --> 01:30:01,492
Speaker 18: a bar of chocolate in the other, saying, what right.

1778
01:30:02,772 --> 01:30:04,852
Speaker 2: That's great your fridge.

1779
01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,852
Speaker 4: Do you think Saint Peter does Saint Peter let you

1780
01:30:07,893 --> 01:30:10,293
Speaker 4: in with with the chocolate bar in one hand and

1781
01:30:10,333 --> 01:30:11,173
Speaker 4: the drink and the other.

1782
01:30:11,973 --> 01:30:12,812
Speaker 18: Oh, I don't care.

1783
01:30:16,133 --> 01:30:18,372
Speaker 4: Thank you for your call. So basically, what you're saying

1784
01:30:18,452 --> 01:30:20,452
Speaker 4: is that life is here. Life is to be enjoyed.

1785
01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:24,213
Speaker 18: That's right, Yeah, I got one enjoy it.

1786
01:30:24,372 --> 01:30:27,732
Speaker 2: So you almost feel sorry for those people with immaculate bodies, Lauren.

1787
01:30:27,772 --> 01:30:29,572
Speaker 2: You look at them and think your life must be

1788
01:30:29,973 --> 01:30:31,972
Speaker 2: miserable because you haven't had a tim tam in about

1789
01:30:32,013 --> 01:30:32,933
Speaker 2: fifteen years.

1790
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:40,812
Speaker 18: Oh God, And I do drink occasional love it a

1791
01:30:40,893 --> 01:30:42,692
Speaker 18: nice philosophy, Thank you very much, Lauren.

1792
01:30:43,572 --> 01:30:46,732
Speaker 2: Guys, I drink Friday and Saturday at minimum twenty to

1793
01:30:46,772 --> 01:30:49,412
Speaker 2: thirty drinks, and I'm lean and healthy and I'm thirty

1794
01:30:49,452 --> 01:30:50,213
Speaker 2: two years of age.

1795
01:30:50,372 --> 01:30:52,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, get back to us when you're forty two years

1796
01:30:52,293 --> 01:30:53,053
Speaker 4: of age.

1797
01:30:53,372 --> 01:30:56,612
Speaker 2: You wait, mate, you wait. It's like a freight train

1798
01:30:56,692 --> 01:30:57,213
Speaker 2: that catches.

1799
01:30:57,372 --> 01:30:59,772
Speaker 4: But you know, one of my best mates, he drinks

1800
01:30:59,812 --> 01:31:01,852
Speaker 4: a lot. I'm not going to name him, but he

1801
01:31:02,013 --> 01:31:07,372
Speaker 4: drinks a lot, and he's so skinny. He is outrageously skinny.

1802
01:31:07,732 --> 01:31:09,892
Speaker 4: But when we go out for lunch, and you know,

1803
01:31:09,933 --> 01:31:13,213
Speaker 4: I get to a pub for lunch most weekends, he

1804
01:31:13,253 --> 01:31:16,372
Speaker 4: can't get through. I've stopped ordering chips with my with

1805
01:31:16,412 --> 01:31:18,933
Speaker 4: my meal because he never eats his chips. He's just

1806
01:31:19,333 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 4: calibrated not to He's got some kind of tiny little

1807
01:31:21,933 --> 01:31:25,133
Speaker 4: tummy where he can't eat much food. But he definitely

1808
01:31:25,173 --> 01:31:26,932
Speaker 4: bucks the trend of what the study is saying, because

1809
01:31:26,933 --> 01:31:29,173
Speaker 4: the study is basically saying, if you want to lose,

1810
01:31:29,372 --> 01:31:32,652
Speaker 4: you want to lose those last bits of your dad bod,

1811
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:34,892
Speaker 4: that last bit of guts, you have to give up alcohol.

1812
01:31:34,973 --> 01:31:35,173
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1813
01:31:35,293 --> 01:31:36,452
Speaker 4: Is he pretty true for my buddy.

1814
01:31:36,532 --> 01:31:38,412
Speaker 2: Is he pretty hardcore on the exercise as well? Was

1815
01:31:38,452 --> 01:31:40,412
Speaker 2: this one of those brinks who run fifty kDa?

1816
01:31:40,612 --> 01:31:42,892
Speaker 4: No, he's I don't think I've ever seen him run.

1817
01:31:43,732 --> 01:31:45,612
Speaker 4: I don't say I don't think I've seen him get

1818
01:31:45,612 --> 01:31:48,532
Speaker 4: above a walk. I've definitely he's never done a single

1819
01:31:48,572 --> 01:31:50,412
Speaker 4: bit of exercise in his life. Get there felling down

1820
01:31:50,452 --> 01:31:53,253
Speaker 4: to a lamb. He needs to be studied there. He

1821
01:31:53,333 --> 01:31:54,852
Speaker 4: was a decent batsman. Back in the day. We used

1822
01:31:54,853 --> 01:31:56,772
Speaker 4: to call them healthy because he had always had a

1823
01:31:56,772 --> 01:31:58,772
Speaker 4: healthy skin and a score, not because he was a

1824
01:31:58,772 --> 01:31:59,412
Speaker 4: healthy person.

1825
01:32:00,173 --> 01:32:02,372
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1826
01:32:02,372 --> 01:32:04,652
Speaker 2: call love to hear from you if you've managed to

1827
01:32:04,772 --> 01:32:08,932
Speaker 2: lose significance amount of weight and still drink and later

1828
01:32:09,013 --> 01:32:11,813
Speaker 2: life over the age of forty keen on your stories.

1829
01:32:11,853 --> 01:32:20,333
Speaker 2: It is twenty two past three.

1830
01:32:17,973 --> 01:32:19,372
Speaker 6: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

1831
01:32:19,492 --> 01:32:22,372
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on

1832
01:32:22,532 --> 01:32:23,333
Speaker 1: used talk ZB.

1833
01:32:24,013 --> 01:32:26,692
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you. Some great techs coming through

1834
01:32:26,732 --> 01:32:32,012
Speaker 2: about the way to a flat belly. If you're still drinking, you, hey.

1835
01:32:31,933 --> 01:32:34,133
Speaker 4: You guys are obviously not drinking enough. All the true

1836
01:32:34,173 --> 01:32:37,772
Speaker 4: alcoholics I've known are built like racing sadines. They only

1837
01:32:37,853 --> 01:32:41,412
Speaker 4: drink and don't eat. Cheers Paul. Yeah, so there is

1838
01:32:41,452 --> 01:32:44,093
Speaker 4: the there is that other side of it where you're

1839
01:32:44,133 --> 01:32:47,372
Speaker 4: completely focused on alcohol and not food at all, where

1840
01:32:47,372 --> 01:32:50,733
Speaker 4: you can stay skinny. But I don't think that's necessarily

1841
01:32:50,732 --> 01:32:52,333
Speaker 4: the zone you want to live in. Yeah, you know,

1842
01:32:52,452 --> 01:32:55,173
Speaker 4: there's other problems there. This Texas says I have six

1843
01:32:55,253 --> 01:32:56,892
Speaker 4: daily and I'm lean and healthy.

1844
01:32:57,333 --> 01:32:58,973
Speaker 2: Wow, congratulations to you.

1845
01:32:59,133 --> 01:33:00,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's well done.

1846
01:33:00,133 --> 01:33:03,452
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. Tesus Is. Guys, I'd had tried

1847
01:33:03,532 --> 01:33:06,253
Speaker 2: July once and thought I would lose weight. No, it

1848
01:33:06,372 --> 01:33:08,173
Speaker 2: was a waste of a month for me. It is

1849
01:33:08,213 --> 01:33:11,012
Speaker 2: just about calories and calories out using my food track,

1850
01:33:11,053 --> 01:33:12,133
Speaker 2: I like my fitness Pal.

1851
01:33:13,173 --> 01:33:16,333
Speaker 4: Giving up alcohol saved my life going through three nasty cancers,

1852
01:33:16,372 --> 01:33:19,173
Speaker 4: as it meant everything else was working properly according to

1853
01:33:19,173 --> 01:33:21,412
Speaker 4: my doctors. There you go, and we've got another doctor

1854
01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:24,053
Speaker 4: coming through and said that, you know, because I was

1855
01:33:24,053 --> 01:33:26,372
Speaker 4: talking about how people lie, including myself, to doctors when

1856
01:33:26,372 --> 01:33:27,732
Speaker 4: they ask how much they drink. We don't know why

1857
01:33:27,772 --> 01:33:29,452
Speaker 4: we do it, but we do it. And this is

1858
01:33:29,492 --> 01:33:32,253
Speaker 4: another doctor. One doctor takes it through in city that

1859
01:33:32,293 --> 01:33:34,572
Speaker 4: they double it. This one says they triple the amount.

1860
01:33:34,612 --> 01:33:37,213
Speaker 4: Then the one says it's right. You say, I have

1861
01:33:37,293 --> 01:33:42,612
Speaker 4: about maybe six drinks on a Saturday night, and they're

1862
01:33:42,652 --> 01:33:43,532
Speaker 4: like eighteen.

1863
01:33:46,732 --> 01:33:49,052
Speaker 2: Sharon, how are you okay?

1864
01:33:49,492 --> 01:33:53,092
Speaker 19: Hey, I'm back in twenty fifteen, I was fifty four.

1865
01:33:53,732 --> 01:33:57,132
Speaker 19: When I turned fifty, I was determined to start working

1866
01:33:57,133 --> 01:33:57,492
Speaker 19: out for.

1867
01:33:57,452 --> 01:33:58,612
Speaker 13: The first time in my life.

1868
01:33:58,692 --> 01:34:01,093
Speaker 19: Let's go to the gym maybe five times a week

1869
01:34:01,133 --> 01:34:03,173
Speaker 19: for an hour at a time. And I was in

1870
01:34:03,293 --> 01:34:06,692
Speaker 19: okay condition, but I was eating and you know, drinking

1871
01:34:06,772 --> 01:34:10,692
Speaker 19: three or four drinks night every night, and I decided

1872
01:34:10,732 --> 01:34:13,893
Speaker 19: I just wanted to drop five kilos to be perfect,

1873
01:34:14,053 --> 01:34:16,732
Speaker 19: and so I just went on the low carved sub

1874
01:34:16,812 --> 01:34:20,772
Speaker 19: twenty grams of calves a day and still drank those

1875
01:34:20,812 --> 01:34:23,173
Speaker 19: three or four every night, but switched from wine to

1876
01:34:23,652 --> 01:34:26,972
Speaker 19: spirits which have calories but no calves, right, most of them.

1877
01:34:27,452 --> 01:34:30,612
Speaker 19: And I continued working out and did some pretty heavy

1878
01:34:30,692 --> 01:34:33,892
Speaker 19: resistance work and I got in perfect shape. So I

1879
01:34:33,893 --> 01:34:37,132
Speaker 19: was fifty four years old and I was in outstanding condition.

1880
01:34:37,372 --> 01:34:41,852
Speaker 19: Lost that five kilos and it was great. It's just

1881
01:34:41,933 --> 01:34:44,052
Speaker 19: hard to stay off the calves, right, I'm still drinking

1882
01:34:44,093 --> 01:34:46,053
Speaker 19: the three or four a night, but staying off the

1883
01:34:46,093 --> 01:34:47,253
Speaker 19: calves is the hard part.

1884
01:34:48,013 --> 01:34:49,932
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1885
01:34:50,013 --> 01:34:53,372
Speaker 4: So you so you into what vodka or something?

1886
01:34:53,412 --> 01:34:57,333
Speaker 19: Did you Canadgian subs my choice support?

1887
01:34:58,933 --> 01:34:59,133
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1888
01:34:59,213 --> 01:35:01,852
Speaker 19: Yeah, But so it's possible. I think if you're doing

1889
01:35:01,893 --> 01:35:04,932
Speaker 19: sub twenty grams of calves a day and you've got

1890
01:35:04,933 --> 01:35:08,572
Speaker 19: to have a minimum I think fourteen hundred calories in

1891
01:35:08,612 --> 01:35:12,293
Speaker 19: total for that key tota's effect to kick in where

1892
01:35:12,293 --> 01:35:15,492
Speaker 19: you are burning, you know, where your body's burning for

1893
01:35:15,652 --> 01:35:16,692
Speaker 19: energy instead of.

1894
01:35:19,053 --> 01:35:20,293
Speaker 17: Using carbs for energy.

1895
01:35:20,652 --> 01:35:21,452
Speaker 2: Was that, Sharon?

1896
01:35:21,492 --> 01:35:24,812
Speaker 4: This is the study here is saying that you know,

1897
01:35:24,973 --> 01:35:29,493
Speaker 4: any you know and even one drinken night affix your sleep. Adversely,

1898
01:35:29,933 --> 01:35:32,772
Speaker 4: how do you sleep? You sleep all right on your

1899
01:35:33,133 --> 01:35:34,333
Speaker 4: was it? Did you say four a night?

1900
01:35:35,772 --> 01:35:36,213
Speaker 9: Three or four?

1901
01:35:36,293 --> 01:35:36,893
Speaker 20: I go into it.

1902
01:35:36,973 --> 01:35:37,932
Speaker 13: I go into a toba.

1903
01:35:38,133 --> 01:35:38,452
Speaker 5: I go.

1904
01:35:39,893 --> 01:35:42,812
Speaker 19: I have no trouble sleep and go to sleep. But

1905
01:35:43,053 --> 01:35:45,812
Speaker 19: you know, maybe ten o'clock and I set the alarm

1906
01:35:45,893 --> 01:35:48,612
Speaker 19: for full fifteen every morning, and it's no problem. I

1907
01:35:48,652 --> 01:35:50,892
Speaker 19: sleep all the way through, no trouble getting to sleep,

1908
01:35:51,093 --> 01:35:52,652
Speaker 19: and no problems staying asleep.

1909
01:35:52,973 --> 01:35:55,852
Speaker 4: And that's that's quality sleepers it, Sharon? You wake up,

1910
01:35:55,973 --> 01:35:57,692
Speaker 4: you know, white eyed and bushy tails.

1911
01:35:59,492 --> 01:36:01,772
Speaker 14: You know, I worked ten eleven hours a day, run

1912
01:36:01,812 --> 01:36:02,253
Speaker 14: a big.

1913
01:36:02,093 --> 01:36:07,012
Speaker 19: Business, you know, and seem to be reasonably sharp as mine,

1914
01:36:07,333 --> 01:36:08,732
Speaker 19: and you deserve Sharon.

1915
01:36:09,173 --> 01:36:11,532
Speaker 4: Thank you for thank you for sharing, Sharon. I appreciate

1916
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:14,093
Speaker 4: that it's bright eyed and bushytail, doesn't it? I said,

1917
01:36:14,133 --> 01:36:16,812
Speaker 4: wide eyed and bushytail, wide eyed and bushytail kind of

1918
01:36:16,893 --> 01:36:19,532
Speaker 4: bright eyes the sixes. I'm fifty seven and I drink

1919
01:36:19,572 --> 01:36:22,293
Speaker 4: at least twelve beers a night. I have no beer

1920
01:36:22,412 --> 01:36:25,892
Speaker 4: belly at all, but I have an active job in life.

1921
01:36:26,293 --> 01:36:29,652
Speaker 4: If I have a night with where, I can't if

1922
01:36:29,652 --> 01:36:32,093
Speaker 4: I have a night with none, I thought they said,

1923
01:36:32,133 --> 01:36:33,372
Speaker 4: if I have a night with a none and I

1924
01:36:33,412 --> 01:36:35,812
Speaker 4: can't sleep. If I have a night with none, I

1925
01:36:35,853 --> 01:36:38,852
Speaker 4: can't sleep on the full cream beer, not the skinny

1926
01:36:38,853 --> 01:36:41,173
Speaker 4: low car beer. We aren't all built the same. That

1927
01:36:41,692 --> 01:36:43,732
Speaker 4: is so true in a turdy words. So this thing

1928
01:36:43,853 --> 01:36:45,293
Speaker 4: with read has said, if you want to lose the weight,

1929
01:36:45,333 --> 01:36:48,932
Speaker 4: you have to cut the alcohol. But the anecdotal evidence

1930
01:36:49,013 --> 01:36:51,612
Speaker 4: is piling in on our text machine of nine two

1931
01:36:51,652 --> 01:36:54,612
Speaker 4: nine two of people that are slamming the booze and

1932
01:36:56,133 --> 01:36:57,213
Speaker 4: have rock and bods.

1933
01:36:57,532 --> 01:36:59,932
Speaker 2: I want to see that guy, though, fifty seven, he's

1934
01:37:00,013 --> 01:37:03,053
Speaker 2: knocking pick twelve beers a knife for cream beers as

1935
01:37:03,053 --> 01:37:06,293
Speaker 2: he says, no way, no way, have you got rock hard.

1936
01:37:06,253 --> 01:37:08,772
Speaker 4: Ed he's sleeping with nuns? No he no, Yeah, got

1937
01:37:08,812 --> 01:37:10,572
Speaker 4: the wrong Yes, I said yeah, No. He did spell

1938
01:37:10,612 --> 01:37:13,213
Speaker 4: it some nice he has none. Yeah, that's what confused me.

1939
01:37:13,293 --> 01:37:16,372
Speaker 4: Spelled none mu in Oh on one hundred ten eight.

1940
01:37:17,133 --> 01:37:18,213
Speaker 4: My dirty mind did the rest?

1941
01:37:18,692 --> 01:37:20,892
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1942
01:37:20,933 --> 01:37:22,772
Speaker 2: Love to hear your story if you've managed to lose

1943
01:37:22,772 --> 01:37:25,972
Speaker 2: weight while still been on the booze, Love to hear

1944
01:37:26,013 --> 01:37:28,732
Speaker 2: your story. Headlines with railing coming up and has bang

1945
01:37:28,812 --> 01:37:29,973
Speaker 2: on three thirty.

1946
01:37:31,652 --> 01:37:35,253
Speaker 10: You talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

1947
01:37:35,333 --> 01:37:38,852
Speaker 10: no trouble with the blue bubble. Kayger Order is planning

1948
01:37:38,853 --> 01:37:42,093
Speaker 10: to cut one hundreds more jobs, with proposals to shed

1949
01:37:42,133 --> 01:37:45,652
Speaker 10: another six hundred and seventy three net rolls, one hundred

1950
01:37:45,652 --> 01:37:48,852
Speaker 10: and ninety five of those currently vacant. It's lost six

1951
01:37:48,933 --> 01:37:52,052
Speaker 10: hundred and ninety eight workers since December twenty twenty three.

1952
01:37:52,973 --> 01:37:57,372
Speaker 10: The Transport Accident Investigation Commission says a leaking fuel system

1953
01:37:57,412 --> 01:38:00,772
Speaker 10: played a major part in the five fatalities after a

1954
01:38:00,853 --> 01:38:04,372
Speaker 10: charter boat ran into a whale and flipped off Kaikoda.

1955
01:38:04,492 --> 01:38:07,972
Speaker 10: In twenty twenty two, five people died under the boat

1956
01:38:08,492 --> 01:38:12,012
Speaker 10: in petrol fumes, but the agency says the rescue also

1957
01:38:12,293 --> 01:38:16,253
Speaker 10: took too long. The Health Minister wants to use private

1958
01:38:16,333 --> 01:38:20,732
Speaker 10: systems more for more procedures and surgeries after health enz's

1959
01:38:20,812 --> 01:38:24,892
Speaker 10: latest report shows wait times have worsened, access to cancer

1960
01:38:24,893 --> 01:38:29,572
Speaker 10: treatment has sped up, child immunization improved, and ed stays

1961
01:38:29,572 --> 01:38:33,572
Speaker 10: have reduced. Thousands more building products should be rolled out

1962
01:38:33,612 --> 01:38:37,053
Speaker 10: and u Z on this year under Building Act changes

1963
01:38:37,372 --> 01:38:43,173
Speaker 10: slashing barriers to using imported building products. Generation Minecraft, how

1964
01:38:43,173 --> 01:38:46,572
Speaker 10: a pointless video game took over the world. You can

1965
01:38:46,572 --> 01:38:49,372
Speaker 10: see the story at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to

1966
01:38:49,412 --> 01:38:50,812
Speaker 10: matte than Tyner Adams.

1967
01:38:50,973 --> 01:38:53,133
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about an

1968
01:38:53,213 --> 01:38:57,012
Speaker 2: article which has headlined the science of male middle age spread,

1969
01:38:57,053 --> 01:38:58,933
Speaker 2: the middriff and how to get rid of it. It

1970
01:38:59,013 --> 01:39:02,213
Speaker 2: is an in depth article, but effectively it says, if

1971
01:39:02,253 --> 01:39:04,452
Speaker 2: you're over the age of forty, the only way to

1972
01:39:04,612 --> 01:39:06,612
Speaker 2: lose the dad bod and the beer belly is to

1973
01:39:06,612 --> 01:39:07,572
Speaker 2: give up beer and alcohol.

1974
01:39:08,412 --> 01:39:11,013
Speaker 4: Sexas says, have you guys heard of skinny fat? I

1975
01:39:11,053 --> 01:39:13,133
Speaker 4: certainly have. I've got a friend that's quite skinny, a

1976
01:39:13,133 --> 01:39:14,772
Speaker 4: different one from the one I was talking about. But

1977
01:39:15,372 --> 01:39:18,052
Speaker 4: we went swimming recently when we're on a holiday, and

1978
01:39:18,333 --> 01:39:20,452
Speaker 4: he's quite skinny, but his nipples were down there as

1979
01:39:20,572 --> 01:39:23,852
Speaker 4: belly bud right as opposed to the shapely pet. So

1980
01:39:23,893 --> 01:39:26,452
Speaker 4: I bought to the party. So you can. You can

1981
01:39:26,532 --> 01:39:29,893
Speaker 4: be skinny and sort of just droopy and sort of

1982
01:39:29,973 --> 01:39:31,612
Speaker 4: run a bit of a mister Burn's body, can't you.

1983
01:39:31,772 --> 01:39:31,932
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1984
01:39:32,732 --> 01:39:34,452
Speaker 4: When I started going to the pub at sixteen, I

1985
01:39:34,532 --> 01:39:36,333
Speaker 4: used to look at the old buggers with huge red

1986
01:39:36,732 --> 01:39:39,572
Speaker 4: hooters and bellies so big they can't see their manhood

1987
01:39:39,572 --> 01:39:42,532
Speaker 4: and wished, I can't wait to look like them. Well,

1988
01:39:42,532 --> 01:39:45,892
Speaker 4: I've achieved that. They've been a different way than I

1989
01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:48,812
Speaker 4: thought it was going to go. Honestly, if your gold

1990
01:39:48,853 --> 01:39:51,732
Speaker 4: in life is to have a huge belly and a

1991
01:39:51,853 --> 01:39:54,333
Speaker 4: red hooter of a nose, then that is a very

1992
01:39:54,412 --> 01:39:58,732
Speaker 4: achievable goal. You're setting yourself a realistic goal here, had

1993
01:39:59,013 --> 01:40:00,452
Speaker 4: it's not hard to end up that way.

1994
01:40:01,213 --> 01:40:04,652
Speaker 2: This stixasires afternoon lads. I've recently gone from ninety eight

1995
01:40:04,732 --> 01:40:07,692
Speaker 2: kilograms to mid eighties without giving up my five to

1996
01:40:07,732 --> 01:40:10,572
Speaker 2: six beers night and more on the weekends, losing eleven

1997
01:40:10,612 --> 01:40:13,772
Speaker 2: centimeters around my waist, which is scary when you hold

1998
01:40:13,772 --> 01:40:15,333
Speaker 2: the tape up. Now, I go to the gym and

1999
01:40:15,412 --> 01:40:18,773
Speaker 2: run every day and have been making bitter food choices.

2000
01:40:18,812 --> 01:40:22,532
Speaker 2: I'm not calved from granite, but happy worth my rag.

2001
01:40:22,612 --> 01:40:23,972
Speaker 2: Forty year old male you go.

2002
01:40:24,532 --> 01:40:27,492
Speaker 4: The sixer says, I drink a dozen seven percent long

2003
01:40:27,532 --> 01:40:32,812
Speaker 4: whites every day after work, and I've got a perfect

2004
01:40:33,013 --> 01:40:35,893
Speaker 4: athletic bod. On top of that, I have eight codines

2005
01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:40,532
Speaker 4: every morning. Have done this for thirteen years with no problems. Less, bless, bless.

2006
01:40:40,732 --> 01:40:43,973
Speaker 2: That is a hell of my life, this full noise.

2007
01:40:45,133 --> 01:40:48,293
Speaker 4: Alive A dozen long whites a night. So you just

2008
01:40:48,333 --> 01:40:50,452
Speaker 4: come home and chew through a dozen long whites and

2009
01:40:50,492 --> 01:40:52,732
Speaker 4: then the codines in the morning. How many eight? Like

2010
01:40:53,053 --> 01:40:55,612
Speaker 4: I'm struggling to follow the plot of White Lotus enough

2011
01:40:55,612 --> 01:41:00,333
Speaker 4: without a dozen long whites confusing things. Sitting on my couch, Jason,

2012
01:41:00,333 --> 01:41:01,012
Speaker 4: how are you, mate?

2013
01:41:02,412 --> 01:41:05,412
Speaker 21: Oh yeah good, I'm a Vitnam shot though most of

2014
01:41:05,412 --> 01:41:07,612
Speaker 21: your audience are a bunch of raving alcoholics.

2015
01:41:07,612 --> 01:41:08,812
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, exactly.

2016
01:41:08,933 --> 01:41:11,293
Speaker 4: I'm surprised how the discussion's gone. I thought we were

2017
01:41:11,333 --> 01:41:12,932
Speaker 4: going to get a lot of people going. I gave

2018
01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:16,093
Speaker 4: up alcohol. I gave up alcohol is the best thing

2019
01:41:16,093 --> 01:41:17,372
Speaker 4: that ever happened. But we haven't got that.

2020
01:41:18,572 --> 01:41:21,692
Speaker 21: Yeah, if you're drinking four or five booze beers a night,

2021
01:41:21,893 --> 01:41:24,213
Speaker 21: or drinks or wines or bourbons or whatever you're having,

2022
01:41:24,213 --> 01:41:26,293
Speaker 21: you're an alcoholic. It's just how it is, you know.

2023
01:41:26,732 --> 01:41:28,732
Speaker 21: But yeah, I mean I stopped drinking a year and

2024
01:41:28,772 --> 01:41:31,013
Speaker 21: a half, a year and a quarter ago, m h.

2025
01:41:31,333 --> 01:41:35,372
Speaker 21: And nothing happened for three months. I stopped drinking and

2026
01:41:35,412 --> 01:41:39,532
Speaker 21: started eating really good, and it was three months before

2027
01:41:39,572 --> 01:41:41,772
Speaker 21: I dropped any weight at all. And then it just

2028
01:41:41,812 --> 01:41:45,333
Speaker 21: fell off. Ten KOs just fell off. Wow, as it

2029
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:51,852
Speaker 21: took three months from my So, when you think of

2030
01:41:51,893 --> 01:41:55,133
Speaker 21: a liver, think of every cell as a mouse running

2031
01:41:55,173 --> 01:41:58,333
Speaker 21: on a wheel. And when you're living badly and eating

2032
01:41:58,412 --> 01:42:01,932
Speaker 21: and drinking too much, and one of those little mouses

2033
01:42:02,053 --> 01:42:04,932
Speaker 21: turns into a fat cell, and after you've got enough

2034
01:42:04,973 --> 01:42:07,572
Speaker 21: fat cells, your liver becomes useless and you can't lose weight.

2035
01:42:08,612 --> 01:42:12,652
Speaker 21: So it's really hard to lose weight when your liver

2036
01:42:12,732 --> 01:42:14,572
Speaker 21: is not in good condition. And if you're drinking a lot,

2037
01:42:14,652 --> 01:42:15,892
Speaker 21: your liver is not in good condition.

2038
01:42:16,213 --> 01:42:19,692
Speaker 4: So, Jason, do you go out much as a sober person.

2039
01:42:19,812 --> 01:42:23,293
Speaker 4: Do you go out to social occasions, out to i know,

2040
01:42:23,333 --> 01:42:24,092
Speaker 4: gigs or whatever.

2041
01:42:25,053 --> 01:42:27,253
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean not all the time,

2042
01:42:27,253 --> 01:42:30,052
Speaker 21: a little bit, but I just drank soda wa soda

2043
01:42:30,093 --> 01:42:32,333
Speaker 21: water and pineapple. Jason. It's just the same. Your body's

2044
01:42:32,372 --> 01:42:34,572
Speaker 21: quite happy, you feel like you're having a drink.

2045
01:42:34,612 --> 01:42:37,892
Speaker 4: And yeah, because I find I find Jason. When I'm

2046
01:42:38,452 --> 01:42:41,772
Speaker 4: sober and I'm out, it's I can entertain myself and

2047
01:42:42,213 --> 01:42:44,772
Speaker 4: if I'm at a band or something, I can enjoy it.

2048
01:42:46,013 --> 01:42:49,333
Speaker 4: But it's the drunk people, which is hypocritical of me

2049
01:42:49,452 --> 01:42:51,652
Speaker 4: because I've definitely been a punisher on the booze myself.

2050
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:54,692
Speaker 4: But I find it very hard to deal with the

2051
01:42:54,732 --> 01:42:57,812
Speaker 4: people that have been drinking because all the social norms

2052
01:42:57,853 --> 01:42:59,772
Speaker 4: go out the window. The yelling in your face, they're

2053
01:42:59,812 --> 01:43:02,932
Speaker 4: on repeat. So I actually find that the hardest part

2054
01:43:02,973 --> 01:43:05,413
Speaker 4: of being sober and out and about socializing.

2055
01:43:06,612 --> 01:43:11,132
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's there's definitely. But you know, you know, alcohol

2056
01:43:11,213 --> 01:43:13,293
Speaker 21: is a poison and if you drink it straight, you die,

2057
01:43:13,372 --> 01:43:16,492
Speaker 21: so you know, I mean, just you drink just pure alcohol,

2058
01:43:16,612 --> 01:43:19,372
Speaker 21: it's like you'll die. So yeah, there's no question that

2059
01:43:19,372 --> 01:43:22,612
Speaker 21: it's not good for you. And having it in moderation well,

2060
01:43:23,652 --> 01:43:25,492
Speaker 21: you know, how can you have something that's bad for

2061
01:43:25,532 --> 01:43:28,013
Speaker 21: you and moderation and then it'd be good for you?

2062
01:43:28,013 --> 01:43:28,253
Speaker 11: You know?

2063
01:43:28,372 --> 01:43:33,572
Speaker 2: So was there was there a catalyst to you? Jason? Yeah? Yeah,

2064
01:43:33,612 --> 01:43:34,412
Speaker 2: give up the bruises.

2065
01:43:34,412 --> 01:43:36,333
Speaker 21: I was a good thing North one day. I was

2066
01:43:36,412 --> 01:43:38,172
Speaker 21: driving up North one day with a bit of a hangover,

2067
01:43:38,213 --> 01:43:39,932
Speaker 21: and I'm like, you know what, I'm done with us

2068
01:43:39,933 --> 01:43:40,692
Speaker 21: to finish?

2069
01:43:41,692 --> 01:43:42,053
Speaker 4: M hmm.

2070
01:43:42,372 --> 01:43:44,772
Speaker 2: What happened the night before? Was it was? It was

2071
01:43:44,772 --> 01:43:47,133
Speaker 2: it the anxiety that you were feeling them, with the

2072
01:43:47,253 --> 01:43:47,612
Speaker 2: with the.

2073
01:43:49,412 --> 01:43:51,013
Speaker 21: Just a dry mouth and you know, and I'm like,

2074
01:43:51,053 --> 01:43:52,133
Speaker 21: you know what, I'm sick of the ship.

2075
01:43:52,213 --> 01:43:53,012
Speaker 18: I'm not having anyone.

2076
01:43:53,652 --> 01:43:55,572
Speaker 4: We've all been there, well most of us, I think,

2077
01:43:55,812 --> 01:43:56,932
Speaker 4: and and and.

2078
01:43:56,853 --> 01:44:00,772
Speaker 21: So you while you're liver to get in shape, because

2079
01:44:00,853 --> 01:44:02,173
Speaker 21: don't underestimate that, Like.

2080
01:44:02,452 --> 01:44:03,213
Speaker 20: Yeah, and.

2081
01:44:04,812 --> 01:44:07,973
Speaker 4: Are you in shape now? Jason? You you've you've did

2082
01:44:07,973 --> 01:44:11,333
Speaker 4: you play? Did you keep losing weight or did you plateau?

2083
01:44:10,973 --> 01:44:12,772
Speaker 4: And you're happy with how you are now?

2084
01:44:14,692 --> 01:44:19,892
Speaker 21: Definitely all the time. Right, you see lots of people

2085
01:44:19,933 --> 01:44:21,812
Speaker 21: at the gym working really hard and not losing weight.

2086
01:44:21,893 --> 01:44:22,732
Speaker 21: It's because you're drinking.

2087
01:44:23,053 --> 01:44:25,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, thank you. This that is exactly

2088
01:44:26,013 --> 01:44:28,852
Speaker 4: what the study has said yeah, but the text machine

2089
01:44:29,133 --> 01:44:31,412
Speaker 4: is just full of people claiming that they have, you

2090
01:44:31,452 --> 01:44:36,253
Speaker 4: know whatever, twelve times seven beers are a week, and

2091
01:44:36,293 --> 01:44:39,532
Speaker 4: that they're basically running the body of Brad Pittner's prime.

2092
01:44:39,812 --> 01:44:42,412
Speaker 2: We need photos if you if you're smashing back twelve

2093
01:44:42,492 --> 01:44:45,852
Speaker 2: beers a night and you reckon you've got a surfboard abs,

2094
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:46,893
Speaker 2: then we need photos.

2095
01:44:47,013 --> 01:44:50,772
Speaker 4: Well, we need video evidence of the twelve long whites

2096
01:44:50,772 --> 01:44:53,173
Speaker 4: a night, and then and then the rock and bite

2097
01:44:53,213 --> 01:44:53,532
Speaker 4: as well.

2098
01:44:53,652 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 2: Exactly, Morris, you reckon?

2099
01:44:56,253 --> 01:44:56,293
Speaker 3: You?

2100
01:44:57,933 --> 01:45:01,772
Speaker 9: Hey, Morris good. We had a few whiskys a few

2101
01:45:01,772 --> 01:45:04,652
Speaker 9: weeks ago for someone who sees alcohols bad, but it

2102
01:45:04,692 --> 01:45:06,972
Speaker 9: was very good. Whiskey head top of the line and stuff.

2103
01:45:07,213 --> 01:45:09,013
Speaker 2: Are you sure that this is days and it's just

2104
01:45:09,093 --> 01:45:11,772
Speaker 2: been on the line. That's that we're not castings at

2105
01:45:11,772 --> 01:45:12,412
Speaker 2: the wrong person.

2106
01:45:13,173 --> 01:45:14,933
Speaker 9: No, No, I know whose words. I just got off

2107
01:45:14,973 --> 01:45:16,293
Speaker 9: the phone before he rug you.

2108
01:45:20,253 --> 01:45:23,972
Speaker 4: Classic small world, New Zealand, and he's been hoover.

2109
01:45:24,853 --> 01:45:28,852
Speaker 22: I go to pub Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, and in

2110
01:45:28,973 --> 01:45:30,492
Speaker 22: Sundays is the big what we ever told? We have

2111
01:45:30,492 --> 01:45:33,812
Speaker 22: staid three nights before I had my hert's done. I

2112
01:45:33,853 --> 01:45:36,293
Speaker 22: was knocking on one hundred and twenty kilos and everyone's

2113
01:45:36,452 --> 01:45:37,172
Speaker 22: it's the alcohol.

2114
01:45:37,253 --> 01:45:40,253
Speaker 9: So I cut it out, got my hert's done. But

2115
01:45:40,372 --> 01:45:42,212
Speaker 9: it wasn't the alcohol. It was just lack of exercise.

2116
01:45:42,412 --> 01:45:44,732
Speaker 9: And so I'd probably walk I don't know, around the

2117
01:45:44,772 --> 01:45:46,173
Speaker 9: farm and all that and do it and walked down

2118
01:45:46,173 --> 01:45:48,732
Speaker 9: the beach to the dog. But I'm sitting on ninety four.

2119
01:45:48,772 --> 01:45:50,892
Speaker 22: I don't have a beer belly, but I'm not I'm

2120
01:45:50,893 --> 01:45:52,852
Speaker 22: not over wait to say, because of one of my

2121
01:45:52,893 --> 01:45:56,372
Speaker 22: five team five eleven ninety ninety one, ninety tw kilos

2122
01:45:56,412 --> 01:45:59,173
Speaker 22: up and down a couple of kilos, and I just

2123
01:45:59,173 --> 01:45:59,732
Speaker 22: don't think.

2124
01:45:59,572 --> 01:46:01,412
Speaker 9: It's that bad for you. But what I've noticed a

2125
01:46:01,412 --> 01:46:03,492
Speaker 9: is you get older, the more you drink, the more

2126
01:46:03,532 --> 01:46:06,133
Speaker 9: affects your hairs on you. You know, you've better a hangover. Yeah,

2127
01:46:06,372 --> 01:46:08,013
Speaker 9: just one of th beirds you got to hangover. And

2128
01:46:08,093 --> 01:46:09,492
Speaker 9: so what I think, well, you know.

2129
01:46:09,452 --> 01:46:11,372
Speaker 22: So nowadays, what I do is that I bring a

2130
01:46:11,412 --> 01:46:13,333
Speaker 22: whole lot of water. I want to get o because

2131
01:46:13,333 --> 01:46:14,812
Speaker 22: they are at the doors sort of game to get

2132
01:46:14,853 --> 01:46:17,972
Speaker 22: them an upset. And we only have one good session

2133
01:46:17,973 --> 01:46:20,093
Speaker 22: a week on Sunday, which generally starts at nine in

2134
01:46:20,133 --> 01:46:22,333
Speaker 22: the morning, and the other about ten at night. But

2135
01:46:22,372 --> 01:46:25,253
Speaker 22: other than that, I think it's up to each individual.

2136
01:46:25,213 --> 01:46:28,173
Speaker 22: And I don't think you know, I don't. Some people

2137
01:46:28,173 --> 01:46:29,973
Speaker 22: put on evil weight to some people don't. I'm going

2138
01:46:30,053 --> 01:46:32,932
Speaker 22: to make these quite overweight. He doesn't drink bugger all.

2139
01:46:33,133 --> 01:46:36,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough to Morris, Thank you very much. And

2140
01:46:37,013 --> 01:46:39,932
Speaker 2: as you say, two degrees of separation busted, Jason.

2141
01:46:40,452 --> 01:46:41,053
Speaker 4: I love that thing.

2142
01:46:41,053 --> 01:46:41,213
Speaker 5: I for you.

2143
01:46:41,253 --> 01:46:45,093
Speaker 4: Cor Morris. Hey, guys, I'm a qualified nutritionist here. I

2144
01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:47,572
Speaker 4: think people think too much about calories in and out

2145
01:46:47,652 --> 01:46:50,812
Speaker 4: rather than what is actually nutritionally good for our bodies. Yeah,

2146
01:46:50,853 --> 01:46:52,812
Speaker 4: you can have some beers if it fits into your

2147
01:46:52,893 --> 01:46:56,012
Speaker 4: daily carries calories and not gain weight, but you could

2148
01:46:56,053 --> 01:46:58,932
Speaker 4: have to have you should have two nutritional dense meals

2149
01:46:59,173 --> 01:47:02,372
Speaker 4: that can actually fuel your body instead. Not to mention

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Speaker 4: the fact that alcohol can contribute to building around the organs.

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Speaker 4: Not to mention the inflammation alcohol causes. I had I

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Speaker 4: throw this in my hips, cut out alcohol and it's

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Speaker 4: complete legal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, TEGs. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 2: the number call love to hear your thoughts on giving

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Speaker 2: up alcohol when it comes to weight loss. It is

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Speaker 2: eighteen to four.

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Speaker 1: Have a chat with the Lads on eighty eighty Matt

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Speaker 1: and Taylor afternoons News Talk zed.

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Speaker 2: B News Talk z B. We are talking about the

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Speaker 2: dead bod and giving up alcohol when it comes to

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Speaker 2: weight loss, have you managed to do it while still drinking?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 23: Get Andrew Kiddy, guys, a little bit of perspective. I'm

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Speaker 23: fifty nine, I'm five for eight and six months ago,

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Speaker 23: I weighed one hundred and seven kgs. I was drinking

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Speaker 23: a bottle of red wine a night. One night I

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Speaker 23: drank bottles. I drank two bottles of red wine and mean, shit,

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Speaker 23: this is kind of stuff. So I put myself onto

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Speaker 23: a weekly allowance of two.

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Speaker 13: Bottles of red wine a week. I buy them on Monday.

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Speaker 23: If I drink one on Monday and drink one on

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Speaker 23: Tuesday and not allowed anymore until Monday. If I wait

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Speaker 23: till the weekend, that's fine. But I allow myself two

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Speaker 23: bottles of red wine a week. I'm now ninety two kgs.

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Speaker 21: Nothing else has changed.

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Speaker 4: Wow, So that's twelve kg's did you say you were?

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Speaker 4: What were you?

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Speaker 8: You?

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Speaker 13: Un and seven?

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Speaker 4: It's fifteen and that's all you've done.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and an actual fact. The doctor was worried about

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Speaker 13: it and has run a whole.

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Speaker 23: Raft of tests to see make sure there's something else wrong.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's good. And are you sleeping better? Because that's

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Speaker 4: the study talks a lot about just any amount of

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Speaker 4: alcohol or you know, a couple of wines a night

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Speaker 4: will really mess up your sleeping. So you're sleeping bitter Andrew.

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Speaker 13: No, I don't think I am.

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Speaker 21: Actually, I don't think there's much difference.

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Speaker 13: And then there's the beef. There, there's nothing.

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Speaker 23: There's not much difference to anything else except for.

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Speaker 13: The fact that I've lost a lot of weight.

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Speaker 21: I've had to go out and buy a whole new

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Speaker 21: bunch of clothes.

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Speaker 4: Right, And are you putting the lid back on the

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Speaker 4: wine and like having two glasses a night, one glass

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Speaker 4: next night, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 23: No, No, when a bottle's open, it's gone.

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Speaker 4: You're the same as me.

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Speaker 23: You won't find the half drunk bottle of wine in

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Speaker 23: my house mate.

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Speaker 2: You're a good man, Andrew, Thank you very much. There

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Speaker 2: you go, a couple of techs to wrap this one up. Afternoon, lads.

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Speaker 2: I've recently gone from ninety eight kilograms. Actually, I've done

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Speaker 2: that one, guys, I actually have a function on tonight.

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01:49:45,893 --> 01:49:48,253
Speaker 2: I'll drink low car beers, but I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: go drive to KFC to get a couple of bits

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Speaker 2: of chicken to lie my stomach. I'll worry about losing

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Speaker 2: weight tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Okay, put that off to tomorrow, and then put that

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Speaker 4: off tomorrow, and then tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. There

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Speaker 4: you go. Yeah, yeah, sweet as well.

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Speaker 2: According to to the text machine, apparently you can lose

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Speaker 2: weight while still smashing a quite a large amount of alcohol.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I believe that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, anecdotally it's possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anecdotally, exactly right, Thank you very much. It is

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes to four, right, coming up very soon, a

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Speaker 2: sad news overnight the death of Valkilma at the very

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Speaker 2: young age of sixty five. So a bit of a

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Speaker 2: tribute to Valkilma coming up very shortly. It is twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons Usedtalk ZEDB Newstalgs.

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Speaker 2: EDB nine to four.

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Speaker 4: So Hollywood active. Welkima passed away this week at sixty five.

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Speaker 4: He was an incredible actor who, by his own admission,

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Speaker 4: was hard to work with at times. He will remembered

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Speaker 4: for many iconic roles that have earned him a spot

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Speaker 4: as one of the most interesting and varied activists of

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Speaker 4: his generation. Here are my top five Valkima performance is

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Speaker 4: to celebrate the great man.

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Speaker 2: Number five, Oh, come on, John, It's just a word, Jim,

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Speaker 2: don't you change your name to uh Sydney or Irving

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Speaker 2: Man's area.

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Speaker 6: It's just rude man, my words.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 6: This is jam.

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Speaker 4: There you go as Jim Morrison and a Lot of Stones.

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01:51:16,772 --> 01:51:19,693
Speaker 4: The Doors from nineteen ninety one, a weird, factually inaccurate

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Speaker 4: movie held together by Kilmer's portrayal of that troubled but

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01:51:22,532 --> 01:51:25,852
Speaker 4: charismatic Jim Morrison. The soundtrack personally introduced me to the Doors,

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Speaker 4: and I've loved the band ever since.

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Speaker 2: Number four, Well, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, darlin kid, You're no We're in a bustle, How dude,

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Speaker 1: come on?

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Speaker 6: How do you win a out?

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Speaker 5: God?

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Speaker 6: Damn it? Why Bailey look like Abell related to burst?

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Doc Holiday Valkima is Doc Holiday in the ninety ninety

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Speaker 4: three gritty Western tombstone. Kilmer's performance as the hard drinking

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Speaker 4: doctor was the highlight of the film, and it's snubbing

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Speaker 4: by the Oscars diminishes the standing of the Candemy Awards

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Speaker 4: to this day. In my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Number three, we nailed that set of a bit.

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Speaker 4: You guys really are cowboys.

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Speaker 1: What's your problem, Kazinski.

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Speaker 8: You're everyone's problem.

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01:52:07,412 --> 01:52:09,853
Speaker 1: It's because every time you welcome the air, you're unsafe.

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Speaker 8: I don't make you because you're dangerous.

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Speaker 4: Oh, what a great movie. As Iceman and Top Gun

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Speaker 4: nineteen eety six and again and Top Gun, Maverick the cocky,

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01:52:18,973 --> 01:52:21,532
Speaker 4: arrogant nemesis of Tom Cruse who ultimately ended up being

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Speaker 4: his wingman. Val looked great playing volleyball, topless and jeans,

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Speaker 4: and I challenge anyone to watch his performance in the

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Speaker 4: sequel without crying, deploying his real life battle with lung

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Speaker 4: cancer to devastating emotional effect. Number two, Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 4: Valkima is a rogue but handsome and lovable member of

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Speaker 4: the High Screw in nineteen ninety five is good guy,

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Speaker 4: bad guy cop drama Hate one of the best movies

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Speaker 4: ever and just a stellar a supporting performance from Val

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Speaker 4: in that one. But look before we go to number one.

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Speaker 4: I must mention his performance as the bad guy whose

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Speaker 4: name I can't say on zb and one of the stupidest,

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Speaker 4: most endurable movies of all time twenty tens mcguy verasapoof MacGruber.

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Speaker 24: But here we go, Here we go, number one, your

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Speaker 24: fat mat Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Vow's greatest performance for me will always be his first

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Speaker 4: ever performances niked Evers in the hilarious nineteen eighty four

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01:53:35,253 --> 01:53:39,372
Speaker 4: Zucker Brothers war comedy Top Secret. The dude was seriously

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01:53:39,372 --> 01:53:42,772
Speaker 4: good looking back then and displayed incredible comic chops for

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Speaker 4: a man on debut. I watched this movie every day

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01:53:46,013 --> 01:53:49,772
Speaker 4: after school for most of my childhood. Rop Vlcomer, Gone

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Speaker 4: too Soon, but you will be remembered as one of

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Speaker 4: the greats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's lovely. Right now, before we finish up, you

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Speaker 2: were down in christ Church, Matt and you've got a

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Speaker 2: vent tonight at the Beautiful Too Danger in christ Church,

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Speaker 2: the library there, and they have extended the venue and

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Speaker 2: released a few more tickets, but they've almost sold out.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to. You think you've just got a register,

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Speaker 2: but there's a handful left, so get in early. You

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Speaker 2: need to go to Humanitics dot com and just search

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Speaker 2: Matt Heath and you will find the event. It is

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Speaker 2: about your book of life list punishing thirteen ways to

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01:54:20,652 --> 01:54:22,772
Speaker 2: love the life You've got and you're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: nata worth adventurer and explorer and all round good bugger

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Speaker 2: Mattie Jordan as part of that chat, Matt, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: We here down now, so see you for signing at

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Speaker 4: five thirty. Oh my book very much sis. What about Batman? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: well he was an also around Batman. It didn't make

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Speaker 4: my top five. It didn't make the top five best

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Speaker 4: for Welcomo performances.

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Speaker 2: Would have made the top ten though, maybe. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for today. Really enjoyed it. Matt.

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Speaker 2: Go well tonight and we'll see your back up here tomorrow. Blessed, blessed, blessed,

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Speaker 2: Give me a taste a kiwi see you then.

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Speaker 6: Third Li, how did they just.

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Speaker 15: How the way to the dangs sour don' gonna take

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Speaker 15: it rod dangstur hi way do stop danger star rid

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Speaker 15: do good?

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Speaker 2: Why the way the dangy sour don'tna take it?

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Speaker 15: Ride gangs pay the dang riding domanund

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