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Speaker 1: Big announcement this morning on n CEA and its future.

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Speaker 1: Will it be scrapped entirely? Will parts of it be kept?

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Speaker 1: We'll find out by nine o'clock this morning. Consultation will

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Speaker 1: be launched on up the wazoo. You can imagine the teachers,

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Speaker 1: the parents, industry will have a chance to have a say, Chris,

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Speaker 1: have a Crombie is the PPTA president, Chris, good morning,

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Speaker 1: Good morning. Have you seen what.

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Speaker 2: The plan is? No? No, I'm not getting a briefing

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Speaker 2: until a weave it beforehand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And what do you think they're going to do

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Speaker 1: is throw it in the bin and start again or

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Speaker 1: keep some bits.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's some really good bits to it, and so

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Speaker 2: hopefully they build on the system. Of course, it's not perfect.

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Speaker 2: We know this, and in recent years has been really

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Speaker 2: whitet agreement on improvements needed. So we hope we don't

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Speaker 2: throw it out and we just improve on what we need.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest thing that needs improvement? Is it the

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Speaker 1: you know, the consistency depending on what you're studying, or

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Speaker 1: is it the way that things are assessed.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of both. So we need we know,

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Speaker 2: we need a bit more coherency and around subjects and

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Speaker 2: again development in that area. And we also just need

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Speaker 2: to weave a more issue in making clear vocational pathways

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Speaker 2: and just a simpler structure.

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Speaker 1: So what does that mean making clear the vocational pathways.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to go to university, then there's

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Speaker 1: something else for you to do, and this is how you.

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Speaker 2: Do it exactly. So at the moment, it's really reliant

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Speaker 2: on schools and their relationship with local polytechs, businesses, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: There's no real clear national pathways and so someone around

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Speaker 2: that area would be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Getting the schools closer to the polytechs.

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Speaker 2: Well, it could be poly techs, could be business, could

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Speaker 2: be other things. Schools do amazing things through gateway programs

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Speaker 2: and other work experience programs, but there's no real national

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Speaker 2: policy around. This is all schools leaving it up to

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Speaker 2: themselves in their relationships with individual businesses polytechs. If they

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Speaker 2: happened to have one in their community.

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Speaker 1: What's the one thing you don't want them to go near.

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Speaker 2: We'd hate for it to scrap the standards based assessment

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Speaker 2: because at the heart of it, it's about rewarding students

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Speaker 2: what for what they know and they can demonstrating their knowledge,

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Speaker 2: and they have all opportunities to succeed the older system

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Speaker 2: which had a built in failure rate. We don't want

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Speaker 2: to see that happen.

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Speaker 1: Chris, appreciate your time. Chris abercrombi ppt A.

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