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Speaker 1: Welcome along to the unnamed podcast. It's Monday, the fourth

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Speaker 1: of November twenty twenty four. A sec to hear g

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Speaker 1: Lanes with us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning, good afternoon, good day. Where are you

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Speaker 2: joining us?

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Speaker 3: And Neil Wagner is with us now? Thanks having you guys,

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Speaker 3: Oh so good.

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Speaker 1: To have you, so good to have you.

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Speaker 3: Off the back of what happened last night.

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Speaker 1: Even winning their first ever Test series, well they already

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Speaker 1: won the Test series, but the first of a whitewash

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Speaker 1: of an Indian Test team in more than in a

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Speaker 1: more than two Test series. I mean, that's quite a

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Speaker 1: remarkable record that India fashion there over the years that

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Speaker 1: no team's ever whitewashed them, you know, three nil. That

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Speaker 1: shows how hard it is is a place to go

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Speaker 1: and win, that doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It made first the incredible month of sport in New

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Speaker 4: zeal And, I reckon. But then yeah, to win three

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Speaker 4: Tests in India, not just one. To win three and

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Speaker 4: win a series against Indian India, that's a plinnicle, I reckon,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of those guys career and extremely hard

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Speaker 4: to do. I can't explain how hard it is to

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Speaker 4: play in India. Just the elements offt Field things like that.

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Speaker 4: Behind the scenes. It's an incredible Series one and the

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Speaker 4: Test Championship Final, Dream Store Life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we discussed it on the show.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you know, but Jeremy managed to

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Speaker 5: get Richard Hadley's phone number and he's now been pissing

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Speaker 5: Richard Hadley via text message. And when they won, he

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Speaker 5: was in a backward and forwards with Richard Hadley till

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Speaker 5: ten to thirty last night. The victory was at eight

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Speaker 5: point thirty and he was he's been going backwards and

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Speaker 5: forwards and he's got a spring in his step where

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Speaker 5: that I've ever seen before ever. I don't know what

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Speaker 5: it is, but something happened. Something happened between him and

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Speaker 5: Pedals via text me.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Pedals had an interesting take on it because he thought

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Speaker 1: the amazing thing was that we not only beating in there.

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Speaker 1: He said, what an amazing achievement it was, because he said,

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Speaker 1: I tried a number of times and I think he

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Speaker 1: won eighty eight. I think they won a Test and

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Speaker 1: was it Bangalore maybe, But he said the amazing thing

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Speaker 1: was that we beat them with our spinners. And he said,

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Speaker 1: that's just it feels like such a strange thing to

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Speaker 1: beat them bowling, the New Zealand team beating India with spin.

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Speaker 4: We are getting so much better. We've got facilities now

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Speaker 4: that's up to scratch. I reckon with the rest of

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Speaker 4: the world. That's taken long, but they have the marquee

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Speaker 4: pretty much every association now where they can similate conditions

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Speaker 4: can train accordingly. And we've got now world class spinners

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Speaker 4: who've got experience of playing in India before, like Ages

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Speaker 4: Bittal has played a number of teats now in subcontinent.

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Speaker 4: Glen Phillips have played in India a lot. Now quality

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Speaker 4: players have been there and know what to come across

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Speaker 4: and that experience is huge. It already puts you I

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Speaker 4: guess that little stead ahead and then to go and

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Speaker 4: do it. There's another thing to get lucky. And when

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Speaker 4: three tosses and a rows bloody brilliant tom lay from

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Speaker 3: They comes in handy too.

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Speaker 4: But hey, regardless of winning a TOSSI going to get

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Speaker 3: Do that it's huge.

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Speaker 4: So this is a massive moment in his Zealand cricket

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Speaker 4: and hopefully keep continuing with this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah do you miss it?

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Speaker 4: I do, mate, watching that you biting your nails last

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Speaker 4: night And that's the hardest film always cricket.

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Speaker 3: Watch it.

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Speaker 4: It's way easier to being there and in the midst

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Speaker 3: So yeah, do miss it?

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Speaker 1: Although you I mean you obviously you miss being a

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Speaker 4: Believes kick give me on that lite?

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Speaker 3: Why did they bother like the well enjoy the sweetest

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Speaker 4: He'll be He would have been chomming the bit to

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Speaker 4: You've got to sit there.

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Speaker 3: And and you want to be a part of it.

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Speaker 4: You want to sort of get stuck in and play

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Speaker 4: It's tough, and you know you're happy for your mates.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I say that beer would have tasted

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know you've been to in the number

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Speaker 3: What is actually the heart?

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Speaker 1: Obviously you've got the weather, which is kind of unusual

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Speaker 3: Living in weirdness?

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing is they are getting a

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Speaker 3: When you first get that.

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Speaker 4: I was never a good spicy food eater, a fan

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Speaker 3: You get yes to it pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so eating spicy food and sometimes your guts

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Speaker 3: I remember the one there was a massive.

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Speaker 4: Just about ten straight dogs running around barking outside your

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Speaker 4: Sleep is sometimes hard. And then, like I say, you're

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Speaker 4: So it's ridiculous that you deal with that. You saw

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Speaker 4: It's it's incredible to try and saw a hold the bat,

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Speaker 3: It's brutal.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's hard enough just playing. It's not enough betting.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard thing to do. But betting and that

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Speaker 2: We're just talking about Willow Rawk's situation with one of

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Speaker 2: Is it feeling genuinely ruined? Because it was unfortunately something

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Speaker 4: My body feels okay, but I mean throughout my whole career,

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Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like you were when you're when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, oh wow.

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Speaker 4: I think you're always dealing with something and all those

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Speaker 4: But in my book, I write about a t smatch

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Speaker 4: like this is this massive spasm, trying to get it

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Speaker 3: And I was about, you know, seconds away to go.

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Speaker 4: Into cane, going mate, I don't think I should play it,

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Speaker 4: And you think about I don't want to let the

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Speaker 4: it's just, you know, it's amazing. When you get in

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Speaker 3: But you make it worse on the end of it.

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Speaker 4: Beast as a fast baller, that you can have niggles

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Speaker 5: I've never I've never felt one hundred percent and I

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Speaker 3: I wake up, I wake up every day, not a hundred.

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Speaker 5: I can sympathize with you X. You know, athlete to

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Speaker 1: Did you ever so when you were bowling a spell?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever say to the captain I'm done? Did

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Speaker 1: just that you need to take a spell now to

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Speaker 4: There's a funny Young Cain hated it, but I always

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Speaker 4: just keept going one more, one more famous thing more,

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Speaker 4: and Caine is just like, no, You've had enough, Like

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Speaker 3: No, I was.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever got to a point where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, always just wanted the ball.

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Speaker 4: I think you're going to have to if you if

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Speaker 3: But there was a pleasure doing it.

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Speaker 4: You had a great bunch of mates and people around

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Speaker 3: It started with Brenda McCallum. He was backbone of it,

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Speaker 3: It's the best feeling.

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Speaker 4: But the best feeling is Mate, sitting in the change

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Speaker 3: Still going in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for a couple of tubes.

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Speaker 1: Because you talk us through that, because we were just

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Speaker 4: I remember Tim calling me a prossy for climbing out

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Speaker 4: Naths was trying to kick it away and I've gone

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Speaker 4: down to pick it up and I've just naled my

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Speaker 4: head on the table, just absolutely. Next thing, Term's pushing

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Speaker 4: into the corner to try and stack it and then

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Speaker 4: oh mate, I ate it down and I was just like,

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Speaker 4: that's me. I'm calling quitz terms like course you can't

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Speaker 4: keep back in the game. Next thing, he was hugging

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Speaker 4: the balls.

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Speaker 5: Classic sixty camel, So yeah, it's it's bloody good mate.

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Speaker 4: That's the memories we'll never forget. Bj Wattling is mate.

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Speaker 4: He was just the bloody blue of that team. After

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Speaker 4: Wilti's championship final, we had a couple of amazing celebrations

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Speaker 4: and a few boys decided at about five am, they

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Speaker 4: just want to go and have a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a bit of a sleep, you know, before getting on

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Speaker 4: the long flight to do two weeks quarantine.

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Speaker 3: And he's in and we arrived and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at about eight o'clock, I had this banging noise

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Speaker 4: in my door and we had this interconnecting room and

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Speaker 4: myself and Bolty at the door sort of half opened.

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Speaker 3: Boult He's like, don't open it, don't open it, don't

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Speaker 3: open it.

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Speaker 4: And Baulty ran like little girls shut his door and

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Speaker 4: I've gone a helly over lock and here's Bjo Wattling.

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Speaker 3: Open it up.

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Speaker 4: He's got the warmest Australia be anything out of the

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Speaker 4: brown bottle.

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Speaker 3: You know it's not good.

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Speaker 4: So gives us warm as beer in my hand and

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Speaker 4: he just gone up and he's got a broken finger

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Speaker 4: and he goes.

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Speaker 3: You've got two weeks of sleep in quarantine, puss.

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Speaker 4: He wake up and he pulls his curtain, ripped it off,

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Speaker 4: the whole thing in his seat.

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Speaker 3: We're getting back on it.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: So your book is out tomorrow, Neil Wagner. You can

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Speaker 2: purchase that at All Good Books. I've read the first

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Speaker 2: three chapters, still feeling we're still in South Africa at

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Speaker 2: the moment. I actually haven't made it to the proper

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Speaker 2: cricket part. I'm just reading you dropping it shit to

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Speaker 2: your brother in the driveway.

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Speaker 5: Can I say it like they're all out? You could

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Speaker 5: have I reckon just short of a length could have

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Speaker 5: been better. Short of a length could have been good

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Speaker 5: or tropeball.

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Speaker 4: We did say that, but we thought it was going

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Speaker 4: to be just a little bit too obvious anything with

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Speaker 4: its bouncer related.

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Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be a little bit

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Speaker 3: too obvious.

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Speaker 4: It was a few a few words, but I thought

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Speaker 4: it all out, you know, there's there's literally I don't

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Speaker 4: think I'm leaving anything behind.

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Speaker 3: Everything. Everything is coming out.

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Speaker 4: And also as a player, I just went all out,

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Speaker 4: you know, trying to give everything for the team and

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Speaker 4: trying to contribute.

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was pretty fitting. But yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 3: that's you followed.

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Speaker 5: You followed in the fine tradition of cricketing analogies and autobiography.

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Speaker 2: So well done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for coming in, Neil Wagner, looking forward to

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Speaker 1: reading the book. And and yeah as a as a

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Speaker 1: person to watch as a cricket New Zealand cricket fan,

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Speaker 1: so much joy watching new Steam and oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so good to have a guy who was prepared just

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Speaker 1: to dig it in at opposition batsman who never liked it.

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Speaker 1: So good to have that guy on our team. Finally,

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Speaker 1: a guy on our team like that. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for everything you've done on behalf of New Zealand cricket

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Speaker 1: fans and best of luck with whatever you decide.

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Speaker 3: To do next. Thanks mate, appreciate that boy. Guys,