1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Does it water Grave Sports Store coasters with me. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Hello Darce, Greetings Heather. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Okay, what is going on with the IOC and the 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: transgendered women. 5 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, the idea is that they don't want them anymore. 6 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: There's a new boss lady up there, and they're like, well, 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: I suppose to fall in line with a lot of 8 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: the other sports. It might just be a whole lot 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: easier if we're to have a blanket ban. They believe 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: there's new research come to light that suggests it is 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: a distinct advantage and I'm thinking it's not being determined yet, 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: that it might just be easier if that level. The 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Olympics go, Yeah, no transgends to men and women's sports, 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: no trainstend of women, sorry in women's suit. 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: But I was reading first thing this morning after it 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: broke internationally that the IOC says it hasn't made a decision. 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: No, that's what I said. It hasn't made a decision, 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: but they're looking at it. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: But I thought that the news that was broken this 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: morning was that they will be announcing the decision they've 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: already made in February. 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Well, what I know to beings who saw what you've 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: got me on the hobby. I saw one. It's not 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: Sebastian co is it? Who is it? Now? 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: It's a Coventry. 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Coventry, that's the one. I thought that, and look again, 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: someone through next door against might better find it. My 28 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: idea when I read it this morning was that, well, 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: we might do it, but we're not going to do 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: it yet. But it looks like it makes sense to us. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Does that not make sense to you? We got cross 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: wires here. 33 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: No, I do you know what? Okay, I don't know. 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what. We're just guessing what's going on here. 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised if they have already 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: made a decision set to be announced in the new year, 37 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: but in order for it not to look like it's predetermined, 38 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: they're saying they haven't made a decision. 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: It's still working through the well. A lot of sports 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: have made their own. It always gets me around this though, 41 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: and I completely understand the argument for trans women and 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: how that operates, but in different sports, different strengths stage development, 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: he becomes a distinct advice understanding. 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and think about the pr perspective of this, the 45 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: whole the last Olympic Games, the whole boxing thing, all 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: we talked about was the Algerian boxer. 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing that always gets me though. We 48 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: look at percentages. Now, there is a percentage of humans 49 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: in the world that are transgender, right, transgender women from men. 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what that percentage except to be even smaller. 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say they haven't they're not relevant, 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: because they're very, very relevant human beings like everybody else. 53 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: But then you look at the percentage of those transgender 54 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: people who actually play sport to a high level, it 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: gets even smaller. And the ones that can actually compete 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: at the very very highest level we're talking about nobody. Yep. 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: It seems to be a lot of a storm made 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: up about something that's going to affect so few people. Correct, 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: you know, I can get it. But as I've always said, 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: the more research we do, the more we find out, 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: and the more we develop, the better position we are 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: going to be to go. Actually, you know what, we 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: need to do this because this is inherently unfair. So 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm all for the science. I'm all for the investigation. 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: I'm all for the research. If you're going along, then 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: they got what. 67 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm all for the announcement when it comes, we've got 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: to go. 69 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: It's good to do it. 70 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, Darcy water Grave Sports Talk cost For more 71 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to news Talks 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio