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Speaker 1: All right, So the big dances upon us comes Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: the start of the thirty seventh America's Cup. Team New

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Speaker 1: Zealand take on the British team of Niosprtania, with the

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Speaker 1: first to win seven races crowned champions. Mark Aoram's is

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Speaker 1: a sailing professor and commentator from aut and he joins me, Now,

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Speaker 1: good evening. Do you think people are genuinely excited about

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Speaker 1: this event or not?

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly the sailing community is, but I think it'll

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Speaker 2: take a little bit of time to build up for

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Speaker 2: those people who perhaps are a little bit late to

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Speaker 2: get on board. As we move through this America's Cup

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Speaker 2: and we start to draw towards the conclusion, I think

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Speaker 2: the excitement will pull people in.

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Speaker 1: You Well, now we're at the exciting end of the tournament.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely being pulled in. And I don't really care

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Speaker 1: where it's held, how it's run, what the boats are.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of I'm just sort of getting on board.

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Speaker 1: Why should Kiwi's care about it. It's not here in

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Speaker 1: our backyard as the defense normally is, and I know

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Speaker 1: that's a bit of a sticking point for.

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Speaker 2: Some Yeah, I can completely understand that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody would be sort of in favor of having it

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Speaker 2: out of New Zealand. Really, this is the city of

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Speaker 2: Sales and Auckland and it would be wonderful to be

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Speaker 2: having it here, but it isn't, So we just have

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Speaker 2: to get our heads around that. I think the thing

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Speaker 2: to really focus on is that this is New Zealand

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Speaker 2: competing in a very high technology and an extremely high

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Speaker 2: end sport that has a massive history that goes back

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Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifty years, and what we are doing,

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Speaker 2: as a small maritime nation is competing at the very

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Speaker 2: top end. In fact, dominating to New Zealand has been

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Speaker 2: this century the most dominant team in this game. And

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Speaker 2: remembering we're competing against nations that are not only much

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Speaker 2: larger than ours, with deeper pockets, but with a lot

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Speaker 2: of technology that we don't have access to. So thinking

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Speaker 2: about the United States and outfits like NASA and companies

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Speaker 2: like Bowing the UK and how they're drawing on their

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Speaker 2: Formula one expertise with any Ospritania and so on. So

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Speaker 2: a little old New Zealand here piecing together an amazing

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Speaker 2: legacy in the sport of sailing, and when I talk

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Speaker 2: to people from outside of New Zealand in the sport

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Speaker 2: of sailing, they just shake their heads. They think, how

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Speaker 2: do you do it? How can you do something that

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Speaker 2: these really large superpowers are not able to do? And

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Speaker 2: so it's something really special to be proud of that

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Speaker 2: we're able to not only compete, but to dominate in

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Speaker 2: this kind of way.

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Speaker 1: That's a great perspective on it. Mark, how much of

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Speaker 1: an advantage do you think Embrit's Team New Zealand have

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Speaker 1: They haven't raced intensely for weeks, like any ofs I

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Speaker 1: suppose it's got its pros and cons having that.

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Speaker 2: Break, Yeah, absolutely, And of course the Brits are raced hardened.

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Speaker 2: They'd eighteen races over the last month and hard close

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Speaker 2: races too, so they are certainly very battle hardened, very

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Speaker 2: race ready. Meanwhile, Emirate's Team New Zealand's had no racing

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Speaker 2: at all. But what they have been able to do

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Speaker 2: is to watch very very carefully, to analyze all of

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Speaker 2: the data coming off the boats, particularly with a focus

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Speaker 2: now on Aniospritannia, and to continue to develop Tai Houdos

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Speaker 2: so that it can be as fast as possible and

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Speaker 2: what they know is that in the history of the

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Speaker 2: America's Cup, the fastest spot always wins. So their focus

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Speaker 2: is going to be certainly preparing as best they're able

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Speaker 2: for the racing, but making sure they're optimizing Taihuto to

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Speaker 2: be as quick as it possibly can be. And they've

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Speaker 2: actually broken out some new equipment just in the last

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Speaker 2: few days that they'd be working on and kept back

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Speaker 2: in the shed until now, and some of those I

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Speaker 2: think are big steps forward. So the team will have

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Speaker 2: a lot of confidence in the preparation they've done for

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Speaker 2: the boat, and then they'll build into the regatta as

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Speaker 2: it gets underway.

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Speaker 1: So Ben Ainsley versus Berlin, do you think we'll see

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Speaker 1: some nigger here?

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Speaker 2: I don't think. From Pete Berlin, he's a very very cool,

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Speaker 2: calm character, fighter pilot like sort of calm and that

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to matter what's happening around him. He's unfazed.

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Speaker 2: So Ben Ainsley's quite different. You know. He's an enormously

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Speaker 2: experienced and very very talented sailor, the most successful Olympic

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Speaker 2: sailor in history. But he's also somebody who I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: say he's a hot head. But simmering under the surface

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Speaker 2: of that huge determination can sometimes be a bit of

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Speaker 2: frustration that boils over into the if he doesn't get,

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Speaker 2: for example, umpire calls that go his way, or a

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Speaker 2: mistake that's made, particularly if it's a mistake that he's

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Speaker 2: made personally. So they're quite different personalities. Equally talented sailors,

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Speaker 2: no question, but quite different personalities.

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Speaker 1: Mike Alms, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciated.

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