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Speaker 2: Hellout you Great New Zealands, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one twenty one for Friday,

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Speaker 2: the ninth of May, in the Year of Our Lord

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Nearly forgot the reach yep we got.

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Speaker 2: We got a new pot pope today, Lewis Leo the fourteenth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but we don't talk about that at all really on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: Do we.

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Speaker 4: Why you mentioned as popy popey face, good popy face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very very lovely popy face. But yeah, a really

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Speaker 2: interesting show today. I can't remember anything.

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Speaker 4: We talked about speed cameras. Oh those new rad fours

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Speaker 4: with Roofrex.

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Speaker 2: That speed camera chat was bloody good. People came back

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Speaker 2: at us, heart they did. They thought we were being flipping.

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Speaker 2: There was there was there was a I love that.

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Speaker 2: There was some fiery tics coming. They tried to team up,

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Speaker 2: didn't they. They really came in. One guy went to hospital.

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Speaker 4: We were so outraged.

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Speaker 2: And then we talked about something else that I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: Well, we got into colliictions right at the end.

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Speaker 2: Tyler there's something in the middle. There was something in

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Speaker 2: the middle. I'm sure it was great. Oh it was fantastic,

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Speaker 2: Join Me Family Businesses, Well, I said, I knew that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's one of those shows we hear a lot of

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Speaker 2: great stories from people's lives. You know. It might not

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Speaker 2: have been just the cutting edge news, might not have

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Speaker 2: been razor sharp, but there were some great little stories

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Speaker 2: in there. So I think you're going to enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: So and don't forget to give them a taste of

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Speaker 5: Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 5: in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk Saivy.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show on this

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Speaker 4: Friday afternoon. Hope you are doing well. Weave you're listening,

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Speaker 4: Get a Mattes.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler good A ll you great New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: has got a great show for you. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Now, just quickly, you were talking before about the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famers when it came to bullstop in this country,

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Speaker 4: and you made the claim quite an outrageous claim that

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Speaker 4: there are bulls out there that have over a million children.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've got a million confirmed inseminations. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone of any of them had a million children.

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Speaker 2: That's a big step. But I think there's there's ones

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Speaker 2: up there in the hundreds of thousands of children. I

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Speaker 2: doubt daughters, daughters. Yeah, I doubted you.

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Speaker 4: But I just had a look at the LC website

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Speaker 4: and in the nineties nineties was a good year for bulls.

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Speaker 4: This fella King's mill pa Walisa one million, two hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty eight thousand in seminations. How many daughters are

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Speaker 4: two hundred and eleven thousands?

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Speaker 2: See, that's impressive. I mean I pat myself on the

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Speaker 2: back every day for managing to sire to sons. And

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Speaker 2: how many daughters has he got? Two hundred and eleven thousand?

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Speaker 2: That is Look, that is that is hard hard. Yeack,

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Speaker 2: You've got some ketching up to do. You're going to

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Speaker 2: have to work over time to provide for all those

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Speaker 2: daughters exactly what put them through uni Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: just uniform costs alone.

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Speaker 4: Now, before we get onto the show, you have an

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Speaker 4: event this weekend which is going to be fantastic that's right.

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Speaker 2: Featherston Booktown twenty twenty five, Sunday, the eleventh of May.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be on stage with Paddy Gower and

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Speaker 2: farmer Wayne Langford and Phil Quinn and we're having a

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Speaker 2: discussion about men's mental health under year. It's all good

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Speaker 2: men keeping themselves well as the topic. And you can

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Speaker 2: a special discount Blessed bless spear. So that's on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: What time is that on Sunday? I should know, actually

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Speaker 2: Sunday at one thirty pm and featherstonep So looking forward

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Speaker 2: down to flying into Wellington. What's the weather looking down

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Speaker 2: there at around the airport tomorrow? I'm not looking at

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Speaker 2: a sideways landing Featherstone. It's always good on Featherstone, isn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Land Featherston mate.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, we just got to hope you've got Scott

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Speaker 4: Buttery running that operation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he flies the New Zealand's best pilot. Scott Buttery,

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Speaker 2: absolute legend. But he's only on the ATR. Is the

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Speaker 2: all right? Yea, okay?

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Speaker 4: Right now? Before also we get into the topics today.

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Speaker 4: Was this something you wanted to have a quick chat about.

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Speaker 2: Man, was it?

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Speaker 4: Oh, let's skip that actually, Okay, that is a hell

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Speaker 4: of a tease. We're going to bring that up maybe

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Speaker 4: after two o'clock. Yeah, because I know it's getting to you.

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Speaker 2: We've been going on about bull children and my gigs

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Speaker 2: and Featherston, and I just think we need to move

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Speaker 4: We do have a show to do. Actually, speaking of

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Speaker 4: that show, after three o'clock, we want to talk about

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Speaker 4: when collections become an unhealthy obsession. The Strange Lady over

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Speaker 4: in Australia. She has been awarded the Guinness World Record

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Speaker 4: for the largest Minion memorabilia collection, over a thousand pieces.

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Speaker 2: Shameful, shameful collection. But it does be the question why

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Speaker 2: why why?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why do we have this desire to collect things?

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Speaker 2: We're like Octopi or Kars. We just want to collect things.

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Speaker 2: And so we want you to name and shame your

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Speaker 2: partners or friends or children or parents that have got

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Speaker 2: collection problems.

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Speaker 4: And you might get a bit of shame directed at

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Speaker 4: you as well, because you're you're.

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Speaker 2: A collector, oh terrible collector.

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Speaker 4: That is after three o'clock, after two o'clock going into

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Speaker 4: the family business. Didn't get to this yesterday, but we

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Speaker 4: want to today. Ronaldo's son is going into his family

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Speaker 4: business football. He's been selected for the under fifteen side

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Speaker 4: in Portugal, which is a great little story. But we

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Speaker 4: want to talk to you if you've followed your parents

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Speaker 4: into their career choice or indeed taken over the family business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it like? Or if you're a parent that's

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Speaker 2: into it, or if you are the child and it's

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Speaker 2: rarely punishing to work with your dad. We just want

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Speaker 2: to look into what it's like going into the family

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Speaker 2: business because you kind of got this idea that you

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Speaker 2: and then you try and do things. This is sort

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Speaker 2: of the cliche, and then it doesn't work out. You

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Speaker 2: don't become the super stay you thought you were going

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Speaker 2: to be, and you come home and you work on

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Speaker 2: your family business and there's a part of you that

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Speaker 2: goes I didn't I didn't really change the script in

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Speaker 2: my life. But is that true? Is it a backups

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Speaker 4: That's going to be a great discussion after two o'clock,

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Speaker 4: But right now, let's have a chat about speed camera vans.

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Speaker 4: The nz TA has started rolling out new non branded

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Speaker 4: mobile safety camera SUVs. They've taken over from the police

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Speaker 4: on the speed camera vans, which means you won't be

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Speaker 4: seeing any of those well sign posted police fans on

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Speaker 4: the side of the road anymore. They're going to be

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Speaker 4: quite inconspicuous rav fours by the look of it, that

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Speaker 4: The nz TA does say that these particular vehicles are

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Speaker 4: going to be visible to motorists. They're not going to

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Speaker 4: But who would argue if you have a look at

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Speaker 4: these rav fours that are being posted, they would be very,

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Speaker 2: To a They promised they're not going to be around

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Speaker 2: when it's been the one hundred k and then it's

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Speaker 2: is what they shouldn't do where you're more likely to

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Speaker 2: generate revenue than you are to increase the safety on

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Speaker 2: the roads. And that's what annoys me.

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Speaker 4: And they haven't made that promise. I've got to say, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's good that the police aren't doing it anymore.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me that NZTA should be doing this

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Speaker 2: because you I mean, really, if we think about what

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Speaker 2: the police can do and the skills they have, one

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Speaker 2: of them sits, you know, sitting on the side of

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Speaker 2: the road for hours with a gun away taking people,

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Speaker 2: that's a waste of someone that we need out, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing all the other things, because we've definitely got a

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Speaker 2: lot of crime in this New Zealand and this country

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Speaker 2: of ours. But I postulated this this thing before I

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Speaker 2: This is good, this is really good earlier, and I

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Speaker 2: want to know what people think about this. I have

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Speaker 2: always been confused by this because I hate the idea

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Speaker 2: of them pinging me. But if you're speeding, you're speeding,

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Speaker 2: and if they catch you, they catch you. My example

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Speaker 2: was it's illegal to murder someone, right yep, highly And

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Speaker 2: if I stab someone and the guy goes haha. I

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Speaker 2: was a cop and I have a vest on under

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Speaker 2: my shirt. I don't go mate, you should have been

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Speaker 2: wearing a uniform so I knew not to stab you.

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that

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Speaker 2: speeding the law. If you break it, then that's just

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Speaker 2: bad luck. You know, whatever way they used to catch you,

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Speaker 2: then that's fine, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to try and argue with that. Analogy

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Speaker 4: to say, if they give you the heads up that

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Speaker 4: stabbing is a bad thing to do. Yeah, and there

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Speaker 4: are signs everywhere saying do not stab people because you'll

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Speaker 4: go to jail, then everybody knows that, hey, you don't

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Speaker 4: go around stabbing people in this country.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this analogy is breaking down. So what

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Speaker 2: you're saying is that the What are you saying saying that?

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Speaker 2: So if it's signposted everywhere that the speed limit? What

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Speaker 2: not explain it?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 4: If the ultimate aim is to get people to drive

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Speaker 4: to the speed limit, yeah, and you have signs saying

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Speaker 4: there is a speed camera ahead of you, I guarantee

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Speaker 4: that is better for getting people to drive to the

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Speaker 4: speed limit than having a hidden van away because they're

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Speaker 4: not going to change their their driving behavior. They might

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Speaker 4: get stung with a fine and then arguably, yep, they

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Speaker 4: may change their behavior, but they may not because they,

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Speaker 4: you know, they'd always think that they can get away

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Speaker 4: with it. Whereas if you've got a big sign saying

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Speaker 4: you're not going to get away with it, there is

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Speaker 4: a van ahead of you and it's going to sting

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Speaker 4: you unless you slow down, then surely that's a better

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Speaker 4: way to make people sayer on the roads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you're saying, like some you're entering in

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Speaker 2: a non stabbing zone right now, we've got anti stabbing

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Speaker 2: cameras everywhere exactly. Yeah, no, I think I kind of

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Speaker 2: get your point. So is this true the police staff

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Speaker 2: and speed camera vans were not cops, so were non

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Speaker 2: sworn police employees. Cheers much even so, I would say

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Speaker 2: even the admin around getting them out there, and the

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Speaker 4: And some of those were paddi wagons, right, so you're

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Speaker 2: The Tony says, Matt, that is the most stupid analogy

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Speaker 2: I've ever heard. Makes zero sense. Cheers Tony. Okay, Tony, Okay, Tony.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain why it's the most stupid analogy. It's very

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Speaker 4: I love to hear from you. It is quarter past three.

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Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons, used talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be very good afternoon to you. It is eighteen

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Speaker 4: Here's the quote from nzed TA. They said the vehicles

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Speaker 2: Why do they have to be in such a flash car?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 2: That's your problem. I eight hundred eighteen eighty Hayden says,

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to get caught, don't speed. Simple

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Speaker 2: that's the law, you see. That's what I was saying

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show your thoughts today.

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Speaker 8: Matton Tyler. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I was driving through a stirtain the other day and

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Speaker 9: You know, you're talking about line like fines and exeter

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Speaker 9: in front of the cameras and the sower's being musky, So.

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Speaker 9: If you know Emocha and South Canterbury, they've got one

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Speaker 9: I'm like, producing over a million dollars a.

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Speaker 7: Year and tickets, et cetera.

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Speaker 9: Yet the signs and that to say you're entering our

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Speaker 9: speed camera area, so go figure putting signs up around them.

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Speaker 9: The leave and as you say, having musky vehicles and stuff,

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Speaker 9: people are going to recognize them eventually and then they're

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Speaker 9: just going to see them in the distance or people

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Speaker 9: coming the other way, you know, flash lights and people

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Speaker 9: just slow down, don't they like when you see police

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Speaker 2: So what do you think the solution is, Scott, what

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Most Yeah, most cars these days apose have adaptive cruise

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you when you have your adaptive cruise control on,

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Speaker 9: Depending on the situation of living in christ You know,

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Speaker 9: you know, one hundred and ten. I set mine somewhere

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Speaker 9: which is made limits. But once they get fast, for

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Speaker 9: all of sudden, if I've been on that one hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I think adeptive cruise control and has made

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Speaker 2: just take that out of your hands. But basically you

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Speaker 2: just get into procession, don't you behind the other cars,

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Speaker 2: You set the distance that you're going to sit behind

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Speaker 2: the other cars, you take your foot off the accelerator

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Speaker 2: find driving between the cities so much more relaxing now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And actually you the lines of cars and it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's almost AI like how locked and stepped they are.

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Speaker 4: I know that particularly in the South Island because it's

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Speaker 2: But there's still.

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Speaker 4: People down there that will get behind someone who is

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Speaker 2: Can't the camera go bom bomb? Can't get.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Actually, can it do it in quick succession? I measured it.

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Speaker 2: I think you do it pretty quickly. Could Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thanks to you call, Scott. I appreciate. I mean you

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Speaker 2: could argue that cameras everywhere, yeah, and just paying everyone.

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Speaker 2: I know in Italy they had what was the guy

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Speaker 2: people that was going chainsawing down the signs. I lock

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Speaker 4: Exactly just what Scott was saying about the fleshing your headlights.

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Speaker 4: think absolutely you should be doing that. But Google, now,

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Speaker 4: if you use Google Maps, you can there's something on

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Speaker 4: they may as well just put a sign out. It's

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Speaker 4: the people warning the other people. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: well just doing put a big sign up and saying, hey, watch.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who the real one is? In the

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Speaker 2: cruise adeptive cruise control technology and laying technology. Teenage boys

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Speaker 2: I think more and more teenage boys are getting given

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Speaker 4: It's a great point. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: The third year in a row. The New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 2: Union's lost money. What's the plan? Mark Robinson is the

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Speaker 2: Do you actually have anybody that you can announce this

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Speaker 2: ZV afternoon twenty seven past one. So this was last year.

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Speaker 2: I was talking before about the Italian speed camera vigilantee.

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Speaker 2: His name was Flexi Man. Itally has been gripped by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep looking and see if Flexi Man. Wow,

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Speaker 2: he rarely did some damage to that camera. I think

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Speaker 2: he has Flexi Man been found? Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Flexi Man is still operational. Guys, in the UK,

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Speaker 2: And this Texas is in the UK it's illegal to

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Speaker 2: Transport Agency puts fixed safety cameras on high rest stretches

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Speaker 2: a sign saying that you're in a fixed camera era.

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Speaker 2: But they don't have to have the signs if they've

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can understand why they wouldn't have a

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Speaker 13: I was saying to you. I get I get confused easily.

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Speaker 14: But thank you.

435
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Speaker 2: Produced.

436
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Speaker 13: But when you guys said that the new ones are

437
00:20:26,413 --> 00:20:29,733
Speaker 13: very inconspicuous, the current ones are as well. I mean

438
00:20:29,773 --> 00:20:32,413
Speaker 13: there's no a lot of them are high end, do

439
00:20:32,893 --> 00:20:36,053
Speaker 13: look like delivery vans. There's no writing on the sides,

440
00:20:36,053 --> 00:20:38,253
Speaker 13: and not the ones that I've ever seen, and there's

441
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Speaker 13: no indications that they are a speed camera van. Until

442
00:20:43,653 --> 00:20:45,973
Speaker 13: you get close enough and it takes photo of you,

443
00:20:45,973 --> 00:20:49,493
Speaker 13: you might see a flash but generally the ones I've

444
00:20:49,533 --> 00:20:52,653
Speaker 13: seen are no different, or the new ones are a

445
00:20:52,813 --> 00:20:57,173
Speaker 13: toiler toileter wrap fours, that's a bit different, But the

446
00:20:57,293 --> 00:21:00,013
Speaker 13: one I'm being used at the moment are pretty inconspicuous.

447
00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:03,213
Speaker 13: And that's why I always take note of every vehicle

448
00:21:03,253 --> 00:21:05,213
Speaker 13: I see parked on the side of the road, because

449
00:21:05,213 --> 00:21:07,053
Speaker 13: you never know what it's going to be.

450
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Speaker 2: So if you see, if you see it, if you

451
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Speaker 2: see an older vehicle, say something that's early two thousands

452
00:21:12,573 --> 00:21:14,693
Speaker 2: or earlier, you're like that, that's just a car that's

453
00:21:14,733 --> 00:21:17,813
Speaker 2: been either a dowy ride dumping or someone's broken down.

454
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Speaker 4: Like in this and premiere or something.

455
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Speaker 2: But any kind of any kind of reasonably modern car,

456
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Speaker 2: anything over about twenty fifteen, you.

457
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Speaker 13: Go maybe yep, exactly exactly, and and specifically with the

458
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Speaker 13: with the vans, because the vans are pretty obvious, really,

459
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Speaker 13: and now that you guys are broadcast, the reinforces are

460
00:21:36,693 --> 00:21:38,773
Speaker 13: going to be pretty obvious too. Yeah, everybody be looking

461
00:21:38,773 --> 00:21:39,893
Speaker 13: at for reforce or roof breaks.

462
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Speaker 4: But don't you get a tune to looking out for

463
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Speaker 4: I do. I am a tuned looking out for vans

464
00:21:44,813 --> 00:21:47,093
Speaker 4: on the side of the road now, and more often

465
00:21:47,093 --> 00:21:49,133
Speaker 4: than not, it's just backpackers who have pulled up on

466
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Speaker 4: the side of the road, but I can see that

467
00:21:50,853 --> 00:21:52,573
Speaker 4: van from a mile away. It's like when the cops

468
00:21:52,653 --> 00:21:55,213
Speaker 4: change the police cars, we all got to tune the

469
00:21:55,253 --> 00:21:57,653
Speaker 4: spotting commodore's coming up in the distance and thinking, oh,

470
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Speaker 4: that might be a police officer. So there's something in that,

471
00:22:00,413 --> 00:22:02,013
Speaker 4: isn't it that they It feels like they've got to

472
00:22:02,093 --> 00:22:05,532
Speaker 4: keep changing it to stay ahead of the population and

473
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Speaker 4: what they're tuned for.

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Speaker 2: This is slightly off topic, but Peter, but I find

475
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Speaker 2: I still find it strange that police cars are scoters now.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, why how did they get that? Across the line?

477
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Speaker 3: There? Very old.

478
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Speaker 13: I'm an old farm I go way back from Skoda

479
00:22:22,533 --> 00:22:25,773
Speaker 13: was if you bought a scoter you were laughed at. Yeah,

480
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Speaker 13: And I think I've spoken to you guys before. I

481
00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:31,133
Speaker 13: used to work at Ford Motor Company and see you

482
00:22:31,733 --> 00:22:35,413
Speaker 13: and we were off at a Skoda to do a

483
00:22:35,453 --> 00:22:38,093
Speaker 13: comparison against our courteen if we were building then, and

484
00:22:38,093 --> 00:22:42,053
Speaker 13: we just laughed and said no, thank you. But funny enough,

485
00:22:42,413 --> 00:22:44,213
Speaker 13: the Russians used to come out here when the when

486
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Speaker 13: the Russian fishing vessels were used to go around their

487
00:22:46,973 --> 00:22:49,213
Speaker 13: coast they used to buy up the scooters and the

488
00:22:49,293 --> 00:22:51,453
Speaker 13: larders and take it back to Rutta because they were

489
00:22:51,453 --> 00:22:52,053
Speaker 13: a flesh car.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

491
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Speaker 2: This is off topic in Peter, but I used to

492
00:22:56,693 --> 00:23:00,293
Speaker 2: have a pretty fency done up fee at one two

493
00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:03,813
Speaker 2: five mags on it and everything. It was a great car,

494
00:23:04,093 --> 00:23:07,693
Speaker 2: but it looked exactly like a larder because the Russians

495
00:23:07,733 --> 00:23:09,693
Speaker 2: behind their own and had bought the design for the

496
00:23:09,813 --> 00:23:12,773
Speaker 2: Fiat one two five. So I was constantly eating hassle

497
00:23:12,853 --> 00:23:13,292
Speaker 2: of having a light.

498
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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, yeah, the skate is coming

499
00:23:18,373 --> 00:23:20,613
Speaker 13: ahead with leaves from bounds because of out it. Yep,

500
00:23:21,293 --> 00:23:24,013
Speaker 13: and they've they've done it for them. But but just

501
00:23:24,013 --> 00:23:26,653
Speaker 13: going down to the speed cameras and play. We did

502
00:23:26,693 --> 00:23:28,773
Speaker 13: a trip up and you put usrom Wennington last weekend

503
00:23:29,253 --> 00:23:31,413
Speaker 13: and there was two places and an actual effect if

504
00:23:31,413 --> 00:23:37,493
Speaker 13: you go onto the onto the the Trainsport website, you

505
00:23:37,533 --> 00:23:40,773
Speaker 13: will see when you look at the root conditions and

506
00:23:40,813 --> 00:23:43,333
Speaker 13: it actually indicates on there where they have these what

507
00:23:43,333 --> 00:23:46,573
Speaker 13: they call now safety cameras. I'm not sure why it's

508
00:23:46,613 --> 00:23:50,013
Speaker 13: called a safety cameras. It's really a speed camera, but

509
00:23:50,173 --> 00:23:52,733
Speaker 13: they're well marked. It's a little like when you're simon

510
00:23:52,813 --> 00:23:54,173
Speaker 13: up to party Lane and you're going to you're got

511
00:23:54,253 --> 00:23:57,373
Speaker 13: to sign the two kilometers before you get there. These

512
00:23:57,413 --> 00:24:00,253
Speaker 13: cameras were marked a couple of CA's before you actually

513
00:24:00,293 --> 00:24:01,613
Speaker 13: got there, and then when you got there, there was

514
00:24:01,653 --> 00:24:04,493
Speaker 13: another big sign before you actually got in range of

515
00:24:04,493 --> 00:24:07,613
Speaker 13: the camera. So I sort of look at that and

516
00:24:07,653 --> 00:24:11,693
Speaker 13: think that's fine, But it only slows down the traffic

517
00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:14,693
Speaker 13: if the traffic is going fast for that part of

518
00:24:14,733 --> 00:24:17,853
Speaker 13: the journey, maybe fifty or sixty meters, you know what

519
00:24:17,893 --> 00:24:21,292
Speaker 13: I mean, and then everybody's back up to the one

520
00:24:21,373 --> 00:24:23,413
Speaker 13: hundred and ten a in or one hundred and fifteen

521
00:24:23,533 --> 00:24:30,253
Speaker 13: or whatever. So yeah, I'm not necessarily a fan of them,

522
00:24:30,333 --> 00:24:33,973
Speaker 13: but they do I guess they do. They do generate

523
00:24:34,013 --> 00:24:39,013
Speaker 13: revenue for the government and for the transport government.

524
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Speaker 3: Ye.

525
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Speaker 2: Well, well what annoys me though, is the revenue that they

526
00:24:41,853 --> 00:24:44,693
Speaker 2: that they generate goes into a sort of consolidated fund,

527
00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:48,613
Speaker 2: doesn't it. It does, so that opens it up to feelings

528
00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:52,773
Speaker 2: that you're being the leased and it's just a revenue exercise.

529
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Speaker 2: If it went directly towards traffic safety or improving the

530
00:24:58,573 --> 00:25:01,333
Speaker 2: roads so that they were safer, then I would be

531
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Speaker 2: I would be much more open to just having cameras

532
00:25:04,973 --> 00:25:08,333
Speaker 2: everywhere and everyone getting pained because they make the roads

533
00:25:08,613 --> 00:25:10,613
Speaker 2: and eventually, you know, if you make roads safe enough

534
00:25:10,653 --> 00:25:14,973
Speaker 2: and they've got enough lanes and you get to going

535
00:25:15,053 --> 00:25:18,133
Speaker 2: one way and going the other way separated, then then

536
00:25:18,173 --> 00:25:19,693
Speaker 2: you can put the speed limits up to one hundred

537
00:25:19,693 --> 00:25:21,853
Speaker 2: and ten. But they ain't. They just siphon that money

538
00:25:21,893 --> 00:25:23,413
Speaker 2: off and then just sprayt around a bunch of other

539
00:25:23,453 --> 00:25:26,293
Speaker 2: stupid stuff. Yeah, exactly, you.

540
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Speaker 11: Did, right.

541
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd love to see it going various, you know, Yeah,

542
00:25:29,013 --> 00:25:30,973
Speaker 13: medium bars down down the middle of the road, because

543
00:25:30,973 --> 00:25:32,933
Speaker 13: I do think save hundreds of life.

544
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Speaker 2: Because speed is one thing, Peter. Another thing is that

545
00:25:35,573 --> 00:25:38,173
Speaker 2: the person coming the other way could be could be drunk,

546
00:25:38,453 --> 00:25:41,773
Speaker 2: they could be an idiot, they could be asleep, and

547
00:25:41,933 --> 00:25:43,853
Speaker 2: you don't know who's coming the other way. And if

548
00:25:43,453 --> 00:25:45,373
Speaker 2: they if they could be going one hundred k the

549
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:47,293
Speaker 2: other way and you're going one hundred k this way,

550
00:25:47,373 --> 00:25:51,693
Speaker 2: and if you're just separated by paint, that's that's more

551
00:25:51,693 --> 00:25:52,453
Speaker 2: than enough mess.

552
00:25:52,573 --> 00:25:57,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peter, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

553
00:25:57,013 --> 00:25:58,533
Speaker 2: Great to chat. Have great week, Kenned.

554
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Speaker 4: It is twenty five to two, be very shortly here

555
00:26:02,293 --> 00:26:02,773
Speaker 4: on news Talks.

556
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Speaker 15: B News Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis

557
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Speaker 15: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. A promise from

558
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Speaker 15: the government that redress for survivors of abuse and care

559
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Speaker 15: will be improved. Average redress payments for new claims will

560
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Speaker 15: increase from nineteen to thirty thousand dollars. Protestors are gathering

561
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Speaker 15: across New Zealand angry with the pay equity claim changes

562
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Speaker 15: pushed through Parliament this week. The Trump administration is steering

563
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Speaker 15: clear of escalating tension between India and Pakistan. Relations have

564
00:26:36,973 --> 00:26:41,213
Speaker 15: deteriorated since militants killed more than two dozen civilians in

565
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Speaker 15: Indian controlled Cashmere last month. American Vice President j. D

566
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Speaker 15: Vance told Fox News it's none of their business. Inland

567
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Speaker 15: revenue is uncovered more than one hundred and fifty million

568
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Speaker 15: dollars an undeclared income tax and GSD from the property sector.

569
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Speaker 15: It's been taking a closer look at the tax affairs

570
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Speaker 15: of developers and rental property owners as part of increased

571
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Speaker 15: compliance work. Wet and miserable weather for some parts of

572
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Speaker 15: the country now met services. The weekend should be better,

573
00:27:12,173 --> 00:27:16,773
Speaker 15: not a grand standard. How quiet, US missionary became the

574
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Speaker 15: latest Pope. You can see the story at NZEN here

575
00:27:19,573 --> 00:27:22,253
Speaker 15: all premium. Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

576
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're talking about

577
00:27:24,933 --> 00:27:27,973
Speaker 4: new speed camera vans that have been rolled out by NZTA.

578
00:27:28,173 --> 00:27:32,053
Speaker 4: Should they tell us where those speed camera vans are

579
00:27:32,253 --> 00:27:33,733
Speaker 4: or is it fair cop if they sting you in

580
00:27:33,733 --> 00:27:34,213
Speaker 4: your speeding.

581
00:27:34,333 --> 00:27:39,493
Speaker 2: Neil's text said your encouragement to destroy roadside cameras is deplorable. Neil, absolutely,

582
00:27:39,573 --> 00:27:41,893
Speaker 2: No one did that. No, what a very odd text.

583
00:27:41,933 --> 00:27:45,133
Speaker 2: We were talking about Fleximan, a guy in Italy who

584
00:27:45,293 --> 00:27:48,013
Speaker 2: was destroying roadside cameras and the fact that someone is

585
00:27:48,053 --> 00:27:50,653
Speaker 2: doing it and you're talking about it doesn't mean that

586
00:27:50,693 --> 00:27:54,013
Speaker 2: you're supporting that. No, that's a ridiculous call. But he

587
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:59,532
Speaker 2: was called Fleximan, after the German company that developed the

588
00:27:59,533 --> 00:28:02,213
Speaker 2: Excel grind at the Angle grinder, that's why. And a

589
00:28:02,253 --> 00:28:04,493
Speaker 2: lot of it's been happening in the UK as well.

590
00:28:04,613 --> 00:28:08,333
Speaker 2: Nearly one thousand of the ULZ cameras have been target

591
00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:10,973
Speaker 2: in the last seven months alone in London, with two

592
00:28:11,053 --> 00:28:13,773
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty being stolen in seven hundred and sixty

593
00:28:13,773 --> 00:28:16,693
Speaker 2: seven damaged. But Neil, if you just think for more

594
00:28:16,733 --> 00:28:20,373
Speaker 2: than fifteen seconds before you text, you'd realize reading that

595
00:28:20,493 --> 00:28:23,293
Speaker 2: out is not endorsing. We're not saying go out and

596
00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:26,893
Speaker 2: be forty man. Otherwise, every time anyone said anything on

597
00:28:26,933 --> 00:28:30,453
Speaker 2: the news, they'd be endorsing it. That's right, you genius.

598
00:28:30,493 --> 00:28:32,773
Speaker 4: Come on, Neil, get with the program. Oh one hundred

599
00:28:32,773 --> 00:28:34,653
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is a number to call, Trevor.

600
00:28:34,733 --> 00:28:36,373
Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. What are they doing Aussie?

601
00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:39,453
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, I was just going it up. I've got

602
00:28:39,453 --> 00:28:41,133
Speaker 16: a cold comfort. But you're lucky you're not on the

603
00:28:41,173 --> 00:28:44,293
Speaker 16: Gold Coast. We were. I know something really well when

604
00:28:44,333 --> 00:28:45,773
Speaker 16: I look in the mirror and you know if you

605
00:28:45,813 --> 00:28:48,813
Speaker 16: know what I mean. We were over there cruising around

606
00:28:48,813 --> 00:28:52,533
Speaker 16: the Gold Coast. Got two offenses through a camera. One

607
00:28:52,573 --> 00:28:56,453
Speaker 16: was the cell phone on the knee right gping it

608
00:28:56,573 --> 00:28:58,933
Speaker 16: on the knee, I was sitting on the knee. And

609
00:28:58,973 --> 00:29:02,413
Speaker 16: the other one was for the old rooted seatbelt. Two thousand,

610
00:29:02,573 --> 00:29:04,813
Speaker 16: four hundred and eighty Australian dollars.

611
00:29:05,253 --> 00:29:07,253
Speaker 2: Wow, So hang, what were the two offenses?

612
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:09,013
Speaker 17: Cell phone?

613
00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:12,253
Speaker 16: Cell phone on the knee, sitting on your knee and

614
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:15,253
Speaker 16: the other one knows about special camera doesn't pick up

615
00:29:15,293 --> 00:29:18,773
Speaker 16: speed it comes directly down from probably things going over

616
00:29:18,813 --> 00:29:22,093
Speaker 16: them in one into your windscreen and the photos are

617
00:29:22,133 --> 00:29:25,293
Speaker 16: so for here by the way, those those cameras are coming.

618
00:29:25,413 --> 00:29:27,933
Speaker 16: Those cameras are coming to New Zealand, so beware. But

619
00:29:28,053 --> 00:29:30,693
Speaker 16: that's Australian dollars. I think it was two thousand, six

620
00:29:30,773 --> 00:29:33,053
Speaker 16: hundred and something New Zealand on.

621
00:29:33,093 --> 00:29:35,613
Speaker 2: More so, you're not even allowed to have a cell

622
00:29:35,613 --> 00:29:36,653
Speaker 2: phone on your knee.

623
00:29:37,293 --> 00:29:39,133
Speaker 16: You're not allowed to in New Zealand either. It's not

624
00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:41,173
Speaker 16: allowed to be on any part of your body.

625
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,213
Speaker 2: Really, So what's the difference of being on your knee

626
00:29:44,253 --> 00:29:47,453
Speaker 2: and say, plugged into your Apple car play and then

627
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:50,573
Speaker 2: sitting on your glove box. What's what's the freaking difference?

628
00:29:51,213 --> 00:29:53,773
Speaker 16: Well, I don't know, maybe something you come up with technicalities,

629
00:29:53,813 --> 00:29:55,533
Speaker 16: but there we go. I mean that was more than

630
00:29:55,773 --> 00:29:58,093
Speaker 16: we went on a GIP holiday. Very enjoyable, but it

631
00:29:58,173 --> 00:29:59,373
Speaker 16: was more than the flight.

632
00:30:01,213 --> 00:30:03,173
Speaker 2: Fines. Well, what about when I'm on the West Coast

633
00:30:03,213 --> 00:30:04,773
Speaker 2: and when I'm on the Gold Coast it's quite warm

634
00:30:04,813 --> 00:30:06,693
Speaker 2: sometimes I want to drive around with no pens on.

635
00:30:07,133 --> 00:30:10,773
Speaker 4: You know, here we go ten thousand dollars five for you.

636
00:30:14,053 --> 00:30:16,573
Speaker 16: But the good thing about it for me, mate, I

637
00:30:16,613 --> 00:30:18,653
Speaker 16: only got one of the tickets, the ball and change.

638
00:30:18,693 --> 00:30:19,453
Speaker 16: She got the other one.

639
00:30:19,493 --> 00:30:20,933
Speaker 8: Imagine if I had got both them.

640
00:30:21,093 --> 00:30:24,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was if you don't have shared bank accounts?

641
00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:26,973
Speaker 2: So well we do, we do really, but.

642
00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:30,133
Speaker 6: Yeah, got them, I know.

643
00:30:30,293 --> 00:30:31,613
Speaker 16: Yeah, So there we go.

644
00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:33,173
Speaker 8: What was one facts?

645
00:30:33,213 --> 00:30:34,053
Speaker 4: What was the bigga one?

646
00:30:34,053 --> 00:30:36,693
Speaker 2: What was there? What was the one that was both?

647
00:30:36,853 --> 00:30:36,973
Speaker 3: No?

648
00:30:37,053 --> 00:30:37,933
Speaker 2: Both?

649
00:30:39,093 --> 00:30:39,293
Speaker 12: Yeah?

650
00:30:39,293 --> 00:30:41,453
Speaker 16: And the thing about Australia, somebody you're going to have to confirm

651
00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:45,413
Speaker 16: that the gold Queensland without doubts the worst I think

652
00:30:45,453 --> 00:30:47,653
Speaker 16: that somebody's telling us five hundred and fifty for those

653
00:30:47,653 --> 00:30:52,213
Speaker 16: offenses in Western Australia and different and different in New Southwest.

654
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Speaker 16: But the good thing about it there over there, if

655
00:30:54,373 --> 00:30:56,933
Speaker 16: you get a two hundred dollar fine or less, you

656
00:30:57,093 --> 00:31:00,053
Speaker 16: have to pay it and one numb some but over

657
00:31:00,093 --> 00:31:02,533
Speaker 16: that there you can talk terms and you can pay

658
00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:04,573
Speaker 16: sixty dollars a month if I feel how to pay

659
00:31:04,613 --> 00:31:04,933
Speaker 16: them off.

660
00:31:05,133 --> 00:31:09,293
Speaker 2: Thank Christ, that is amazing, Thanks for your call, Triverer.

661
00:31:09,773 --> 00:31:12,133
Speaker 2: What I think is interesting about that? So if you

662
00:31:12,253 --> 00:31:16,453
Speaker 2: had I don't know, like a bucket of chicken on

663
00:31:16,493 --> 00:31:19,773
Speaker 2: your knee, yep, that's does that get ping by the

664
00:31:19,813 --> 00:31:23,173
Speaker 2: camera because a greasy old finger looking bucket of chicken,

665
00:31:23,253 --> 00:31:26,653
Speaker 2: your hands slipping all over the steer, grease everywhere. For me,

666
00:31:26,733 --> 00:31:28,333
Speaker 2: if you're not looking at your phone, it's just happened

667
00:31:28,333 --> 00:31:29,653
Speaker 2: to be sitting on your knee. I don't know. You've

668
00:31:29,653 --> 00:31:31,973
Speaker 2: got another bunch of crap in the middle. You know

669
00:31:32,053 --> 00:31:33,733
Speaker 2: you haven't committed a crime just because the phone's on

670
00:31:33,773 --> 00:31:34,253
Speaker 2: your person.

671
00:31:34,413 --> 00:31:36,973
Speaker 4: Yeah you have if you're if you're using it, so

672
00:31:37,093 --> 00:31:39,333
Speaker 4: you reckon just a blanket, man, anything on your knee.

673
00:31:39,493 --> 00:31:41,853
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying your chicken or your phone. I'm saying

674
00:31:41,893 --> 00:31:45,333
Speaker 2: ping someone. Absolutely talking on the phone when you're driving,

675
00:31:45,413 --> 00:31:49,293
Speaker 2: Is you know, I'm well, you know, on the hands freeze? Fine? Absolutely? Yeah?

676
00:31:49,453 --> 00:31:53,253
Speaker 2: Texting and driving bad idea, very bad idea, very very

677
00:31:53,373 --> 00:31:56,333
Speaker 2: very bad, very bad idea. But phone on your on

678
00:31:56,373 --> 00:31:57,853
Speaker 2: your lap? Who cares?

679
00:31:58,053 --> 00:31:58,293
Speaker 14: Yeah?

680
00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:01,453
Speaker 2: You could have anything on your lap? Yep. I mean

681
00:32:01,653 --> 00:32:04,373
Speaker 2: I'm not actually going to say on your lap. Man,

682
00:32:05,213 --> 00:32:06,733
Speaker 2: you would have believed some of the things I get him.

683
00:32:07,173 --> 00:32:09,493
Speaker 2: I'll have my dog Colin on my have you. He's

684
00:32:09,493 --> 00:32:11,533
Speaker 2: way more dangerous than the phone.

685
00:32:12,733 --> 00:32:14,293
Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

686
00:32:14,373 --> 00:32:16,573
Speaker 4: number to call. There's some great tics coming through as well.

687
00:32:16,613 --> 00:32:18,133
Speaker 4: We'll get to a few of those very shortly. It

688
00:32:18,213 --> 00:32:20,053
Speaker 4: is sixteen to two.

689
00:32:20,333 --> 00:32:21,933
Speaker 2: I agree with Neil. It was the way you were

690
00:32:22,013 --> 00:32:25,173
Speaker 2: chortling about speed and cameras. The whole attitude was that

691
00:32:25,373 --> 00:32:28,493
Speaker 2: speeding was fine. Jackie. Well you what you have done, Jackie,

692
00:32:28,853 --> 00:32:32,493
Speaker 2: is what's in your mind You've projected onto us. Jackie

693
00:32:32,813 --> 00:32:35,093
Speaker 2: and Neil stop trying to read other people's minds.

694
00:32:35,093 --> 00:32:38,053
Speaker 4: This is classic over analyzing. But thank you very much

695
00:32:38,093 --> 00:32:38,733
Speaker 4: for texting through.

696
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:40,973
Speaker 2: By the way, it is, Jackie, you're better than that.

697
00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:44,213
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, Jackie, come on, Jackie.

698
00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:47,293
Speaker 1: A fresh take on took back. It's Matt Heath and

699
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty

700
00:32:51,213 --> 00:32:52,293
Speaker 1: ten eighty US talks.

701
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Speaker 4: The'd be good afternoon. Should n zta tell us where

702
00:32:55,373 --> 00:32:59,293
Speaker 4: these new inconspicuous speed camera vans are? That's the question

703
00:32:59,373 --> 00:33:00,893
Speaker 4: of ust to eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

704
00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:03,453
Speaker 2: Hey, good news for Neil and Jackie. The texts that

705
00:33:03,493 --> 00:33:06,053
Speaker 2: were crying as they texted in. I can't believe that

706
00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:08,173
Speaker 2: their hands were probably slipping off their phone with the tears.

707
00:33:08,173 --> 00:33:11,293
Speaker 2: How upset they were that we were laughing about Flexi Man,

708
00:33:11,893 --> 00:33:13,813
Speaker 2: who was the guy that was cutting down speed cameras

709
00:33:13,853 --> 00:33:19,253
Speaker 2: in Italy. He's been caught. FLEXI man, he's got found.

710
00:33:19,333 --> 00:33:21,173
Speaker 2: He's a forty two year old worker. His name is

711
00:33:21,253 --> 00:33:25,853
Speaker 2: Enrico Montoyan and he has been charged with chopping down

712
00:33:25,933 --> 00:33:30,733
Speaker 2: those cameras. Yep, well done Italian police. Yeah they got them.

713
00:33:30,773 --> 00:33:33,413
Speaker 2: You're happy now, Jackie and Neil. Here we go. They

714
00:33:33,453 --> 00:33:35,893
Speaker 2: got them. Rephone on your knee in your car and

715
00:33:35,973 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 2: the UK is offense if you have food driving worth

716
00:33:39,053 --> 00:33:42,573
Speaker 2: if it's a sandwich, yeah, I mean boy, you know,

717
00:33:42,853 --> 00:33:47,213
Speaker 2: a steak and a steak like a mince and cheese pie,

718
00:33:47,333 --> 00:33:49,333
Speaker 2: piping hot mint and cheese pie in one hand.

719
00:33:49,453 --> 00:33:51,133
Speaker 4: Dangerous, very dangerous.

720
00:33:51,293 --> 00:33:53,053
Speaker 2: That can be dangerous and I get it.

721
00:33:53,093 --> 00:33:55,053
Speaker 4: With a sandwich, you know, easy to fall apart. You

722
00:33:55,093 --> 00:33:57,093
Speaker 4: need someone to help you out with your sandwich eating

723
00:33:57,093 --> 00:33:57,893
Speaker 4: when you're driving.

724
00:33:58,013 --> 00:34:00,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, Timas says, I'm with Neil and Jackie. I've been

725
00:34:01,053 --> 00:34:04,453
Speaker 2: hospitalized with outrage. It's outrageous. Do you hear me? He's

726
00:34:04,493 --> 00:34:06,013
Speaker 2: been taking hospital he was so outraged.

727
00:34:06,053 --> 00:34:08,013
Speaker 4: That is a serious time. We are really sorry to

728
00:34:08,013 --> 00:34:09,373
Speaker 4: hear that. It's gone too far.

729
00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:12,813
Speaker 2: I'm sorry mate, this text sees what if I have

730
00:34:12,933 --> 00:34:15,652
Speaker 2: pants that have pictures of phones on them. It's a

731
00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:18,693
Speaker 2: terrible idea to wear pants with pictures of cell phones

732
00:34:18,733 --> 00:34:22,093
Speaker 2: on them on the Yeah, yeah, because you're going to

733
00:34:22,173 --> 00:34:24,933
Speaker 2: get pinged. You tune up to court in those pants and.

734
00:34:25,173 --> 00:34:26,733
Speaker 4: The judge is not going to have any of it.

735
00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:28,373
Speaker 4: You know, they don't have sets of humor.

736
00:34:28,173 --> 00:34:30,333
Speaker 2: And the justice system would be one of the great

737
00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:33,253
Speaker 2: on goals. I just really love these pants. They've got

738
00:34:33,293 --> 00:34:35,213
Speaker 2: pictures of cell phones on them, but you're on it.

739
00:34:35,213 --> 00:34:37,933
Speaker 4: It's just pictures just right to the slammer, straight to

740
00:34:37,973 --> 00:34:38,453
Speaker 4: the tasering.

741
00:34:42,453 --> 00:34:44,373
Speaker 2: Sorry anyway, Eddie, welcome to the show.

742
00:34:46,613 --> 00:34:46,973
Speaker 14: Idea.

743
00:34:48,813 --> 00:34:51,053
Speaker 18: So, what I was thinking about the cameras is, you know,

744
00:34:51,093 --> 00:34:54,373
Speaker 18: I've come across many situations where people see the speed

745
00:34:54,453 --> 00:34:58,013
Speaker 18: cameras for the slow for the camera and then speed

746
00:34:58,093 --> 00:35:00,773
Speaker 18: back up again. So what I thought was really effective,

747
00:35:00,813 --> 00:35:03,732
Speaker 18: and I visited Sydney last year, they have these. They

748
00:35:03,733 --> 00:35:06,773
Speaker 18: have these two cameras. One is said, about a kilometer

749
00:35:06,853 --> 00:35:09,933
Speaker 18: away from the other, so the one registers when the

750
00:35:09,973 --> 00:35:12,493
Speaker 18: car enters that camera, it registers it. And then when

751
00:35:12,653 --> 00:35:15,413
Speaker 18: if the car crosses the other camera before a certain

752
00:35:15,453 --> 00:35:17,893
Speaker 18: amount of time, then the camera knows that you've been

753
00:35:17,933 --> 00:35:21,293
Speaker 18: speeding through the entire distance, so that I think is

754
00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:25,373
Speaker 18: a more effective way of managing speeds on the road.

755
00:35:26,093 --> 00:35:28,453
Speaker 18: And also talking about the sandwich, I'm a nurse and

756
00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:32,292
Speaker 18: have come I've seen many accidents and the root course

757
00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:35,533
Speaker 18: of those distraction and with the phone on the thigh,

758
00:35:35,613 --> 00:35:37,813
Speaker 18: there's a risk that always you're picking the phone or

759
00:35:37,853 --> 00:35:39,933
Speaker 18: phone's going to pull down. There's always a risk that

760
00:35:40,093 --> 00:35:43,293
Speaker 18: your concentration is going towards the phone, and then there

761
00:35:43,373 --> 00:35:45,333
Speaker 18: is a risk of crashing into the vehicle in front

762
00:35:45,373 --> 00:35:47,933
Speaker 18: of you. So I totally agree with with why they're

763
00:35:47,973 --> 00:35:51,053
Speaker 18: fine for things like that, and I'm also safety on

764
00:35:51,093 --> 00:35:51,693
Speaker 18: the roads.

765
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:55,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, but die, I absolutely agree if you're looking down

766
00:35:55,373 --> 00:35:59,613
Speaker 2: at your phone or texting talking on your phone, but

767
00:35:59,893 --> 00:36:02,253
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, you just happen to have your phone

768
00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:05,653
Speaker 2: on your knee if you're not using it. Also, I

769
00:36:05,693 --> 00:36:06,893
Speaker 2: mean a lot of people say why would you need

770
00:36:06,933 --> 00:36:08,333
Speaker 2: to have your phone on your knee, But who knows.

771
00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:09,733
Speaker 2: There could be a number of reasons you could have.

772
00:36:11,613 --> 00:36:14,133
Speaker 2: There could be another of reasons. Maybe I don't know,

773
00:36:14,693 --> 00:36:16,973
Speaker 2: who knows. I can't think of one. Yeah, to be fair, eddiot,

774
00:36:16,973 --> 00:36:18,453
Speaker 2: I can't think of one. But there will be reasons

775
00:36:18,453 --> 00:36:22,133
Speaker 2: out there. But yeah, so absolutely. Though I think eating

776
00:36:22,173 --> 00:36:26,333
Speaker 2: and driving is pretty and you've experienced at I think

777
00:36:26,373 --> 00:36:28,533
Speaker 2: that kind of distraction is quite definitely.

778
00:36:28,613 --> 00:36:31,293
Speaker 4: We all know these carse foods and there's very unsafe

779
00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:33,333
Speaker 4: car foods. Like you said, the pie, the hot pie,

780
00:36:33,413 --> 00:36:36,453
Speaker 4: very dangerous, the open sandwich. You can't be doing that, yeah,

781
00:36:36,493 --> 00:36:38,173
Speaker 4: beg of chips, that's car safe.

782
00:36:38,933 --> 00:36:42,813
Speaker 18: Well, I think driving driving needs full concentration whatsoever. I

783
00:36:42,853 --> 00:36:45,533
Speaker 18: don't think you should be doing anything while driving. You stop,

784
00:36:45,693 --> 00:36:48,212
Speaker 18: take a stop and eat or do whatever you want,

785
00:36:48,413 --> 00:36:50,813
Speaker 18: and when you're driving, concentrates fully on the road, and

786
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:52,773
Speaker 18: that's that's going to stay late.

787
00:36:53,133 --> 00:36:55,172
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people forget because we drive

788
00:36:55,253 --> 00:36:58,533
Speaker 2: so much, just how incredibly dangerous driving is. And you know,

789
00:36:58,613 --> 00:37:01,133
Speaker 2: my son's getting a license a moment, idiot, and I

790
00:37:01,173 --> 00:37:03,453
Speaker 2: said to him, the most dangerous thing you are going

791
00:37:03,533 --> 00:37:08,053
Speaker 2: to do in your life is driving this car between cities.

792
00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:11,333
Speaker 2: That is the most dangerous thing. So people have to

793
00:37:11,413 --> 00:37:14,293
Speaker 2: keep in mind that that that the awesome responsibility, not

794
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:16,893
Speaker 2: just your own safety, but other people, especially in New

795
00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:20,493
Speaker 2: Zealand with crazy winding roads and just being separated by paint.

796
00:37:20,733 --> 00:37:24,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a very fair point. Distraction I think

797
00:37:24,373 --> 00:37:25,853
Speaker 4: is the biggest cause of excellent.

798
00:37:25,973 --> 00:37:28,652
Speaker 18: Sorry you carry on, Yes, no, I was just saying,

799
00:37:28,653 --> 00:37:31,853
Speaker 18: it only takes seconds for an accident, so you know,

800
00:37:31,933 --> 00:37:34,212
Speaker 18: the moment you look down and look back up, you're

801
00:37:34,213 --> 00:37:36,413
Speaker 18: already in the crash and you'll probably kill yourself or

802
00:37:36,493 --> 00:37:38,973
Speaker 18: kill somebody. So that's how important it is.

803
00:37:39,173 --> 00:37:41,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you so much for you call idiot.

804
00:37:41,973 --> 00:37:46,413
Speaker 2: I would say though, most probably distracting meal to have

805
00:37:46,493 --> 00:37:48,533
Speaker 2: on your lap would be like a full roast dinner

806
00:37:48,853 --> 00:37:55,853
Speaker 2: with Yorkshire pod and beef and or maybe maybe pork crackling. Yeah, pease,

807
00:37:56,053 --> 00:37:57,453
Speaker 2: trasing them around that would be tough.

808
00:37:57,533 --> 00:37:59,253
Speaker 4: I mean it sounds delicious, but yeah, you get in

809
00:37:59,293 --> 00:38:01,373
Speaker 4: the knife and fork out why you're down the highway.

810
00:38:01,853 --> 00:38:04,773
Speaker 2: If you're doing that, you deserve to not only be tased,

811
00:38:04,813 --> 00:38:07,813
Speaker 2: but probably put away for a few years, right if

812
00:38:07,813 --> 00:38:08,173
Speaker 2: you call it?

813
00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:10,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you very much. It is eight to two

814
00:38:10,973 --> 00:38:13,173
Speaker 4: back very shortly. You're listening to Mat and Tyler good Afternoons.

815
00:38:13,213 --> 00:38:18,293
Speaker 1: You Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight

816
00:38:18,373 --> 00:38:22,053
Speaker 1: hundred eighty eight. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

817
00:38:22,173 --> 00:38:22,733
Speaker 1: News Talks.

818
00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:27,053
Speaker 4: The News Talks. There be five to two steven, what's

819
00:38:27,093 --> 00:38:27,933
Speaker 4: your thoughts.

820
00:38:28,253 --> 00:38:31,172
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, here's are going good? Yeah, don't. I don't

821
00:38:31,173 --> 00:38:35,212
Speaker 6: think they should be published if anyone, look, I've met

822
00:38:35,293 --> 00:38:39,093
Speaker 6: I've sped at times and you just realize, you know,

823
00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:42,253
Speaker 6: your speed can get up pretty quickly. But unless anyone

824
00:38:42,293 --> 00:38:45,773
Speaker 6: has lost a family member to a road accident, not

825
00:38:45,853 --> 00:38:49,013
Speaker 6: really in a position to comment on just the effect

826
00:38:49,053 --> 00:38:52,533
Speaker 6: it can it can have. And your previous caller referred

827
00:38:52,573 --> 00:38:55,453
Speaker 6: specifically to the what we know as point to point cameras,

828
00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:58,413
Speaker 6: which are very common in Australia. I lived over there

829
00:38:58,413 --> 00:39:00,373
Speaker 6: for a couple of years and I was very very

830
00:39:00,413 --> 00:39:03,093
Speaker 6: aware that it wasn't the single camera that was going

831
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:05,212
Speaker 6: to get you. It was the one five kilometers down

832
00:39:05,213 --> 00:39:09,093
Speaker 6: the road that was taking an average average speed, and

833
00:39:09,133 --> 00:39:13,813
Speaker 6: that is a far more effective and fear system. So no,

834
00:39:14,253 --> 00:39:18,093
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be in favor of them being publicized. But

835
00:39:18,173 --> 00:39:21,693
Speaker 6: insane that most GPS is, I mean, your Google Maps

836
00:39:21,733 --> 00:39:24,613
Speaker 6: will tell you where a speed camera is anyway through

837
00:39:25,293 --> 00:39:29,053
Speaker 6: crowd crowd location and that sort of thing. So it's yes,

838
00:39:29,213 --> 00:39:31,533
Speaker 6: people are still going to know to a fair degree

839
00:39:31,573 --> 00:39:34,172
Speaker 6: where they are even if they're run you know, these

840
00:39:34,253 --> 00:39:37,653
Speaker 6: roaming ones. It only takes a few people flashing their headlights,

841
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:40,373
Speaker 6: which in some countries even that is illegal.

842
00:39:40,773 --> 00:39:42,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for you call Steven, Tyler and Matt.

843
00:39:42,973 --> 00:39:45,533
Speaker 2: There's no specific glare in the UK eating against eating

844
00:39:45,533 --> 00:39:47,693
Speaker 2: while driving. However, if you're involved in an accident, they

845
00:39:47,733 --> 00:39:49,653
Speaker 2: could deem that you were not in full control of

846
00:39:49,693 --> 00:39:52,093
Speaker 2: your vehicle and it could lead to a fine.

847
00:39:52,173 --> 00:39:56,733
Speaker 4: Oh there we go. And this one.

848
00:39:57,413 --> 00:39:58,813
Speaker 2: What about women doing their makeup?

849
00:39:59,093 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 12: Yeah?

850
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:01,652
Speaker 2: And Grace is that very good? What about women doing

851
00:40:01,653 --> 00:40:05,413
Speaker 2: their makeup? Yeah? Explain Johnny yourself. What about men doing

852
00:40:05,413 --> 00:40:07,133
Speaker 2: their makeup? Yeah? What's wrong with that?

853
00:40:07,133 --> 00:40:09,533
Speaker 4: How do you do it when you're driving? Only at

854
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,253
Speaker 4: the lights while you stopped? Thank you very much for

855
00:40:12,613 --> 00:40:14,853
Speaker 4: all the phone calls and texts on that one. Really

856
00:40:14,893 --> 00:40:18,293
Speaker 4: good discussion New sport and weather is coming up. It

857
00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:20,253
Speaker 4: is great to have your company as always on this

858
00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:23,652
Speaker 4: Friday afternoon, you're listening to Matt and Tyler. We will

859
00:40:23,693 --> 00:40:42,652
Speaker 4: see you afternoons.

860
00:40:36,573 --> 00:40:40,413
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

861
00:40:40,453 --> 00:40:42,213
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

862
00:40:42,253 --> 00:40:46,213
Speaker 4: It be very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show.

863
00:40:46,293 --> 00:40:49,173
Speaker 4: A new topic for you very very shortly.

864
00:40:50,093 --> 00:40:52,733
Speaker 2: So I've just been you know, the victim of a

865
00:40:52,773 --> 00:40:54,853
Speaker 2: scam or an attempted scam. You know one of those

866
00:40:54,893 --> 00:40:58,573
Speaker 2: post scams that you get where they send in and say,

867
00:40:58,613 --> 00:41:01,893
Speaker 2: you know, you've a package has come for you, but

868
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,973
Speaker 2: it just got slight the details wrong. Press this thing, yep,

869
00:41:05,053 --> 00:41:09,173
Speaker 2: this this link here, the weaker type of scam. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

870
00:41:09,213 --> 00:41:13,293
Speaker 2: but this one has come from Lundy seven to one

871
00:41:13,493 --> 00:41:17,692
Speaker 2: two three n at gmail dot com.

872
00:41:17,733 --> 00:41:20,213
Speaker 4: Well that is a little bit close for comfort, isn't it,

873
00:41:20,253 --> 00:41:23,093
Speaker 4: considering what we were talking about yesterday on the show.

874
00:41:23,813 --> 00:41:29,733
Speaker 2: But I don't know that is too much of a coincidence. Yeah, well, no,

875
00:41:29,853 --> 00:41:31,373
Speaker 2: I don't think it would be a coincidence at all.

876
00:41:31,413 --> 00:41:33,973
Speaker 2: I mean, I think whoever sending these ones out, it's

877
00:41:34,093 --> 00:41:37,053
Speaker 2: probably running an AI from overseas across what's being talked

878
00:41:37,093 --> 00:41:38,933
Speaker 2: about a lot in New Zealand at the moment. Yeah,

879
00:41:39,013 --> 00:41:41,373
Speaker 2: and so Lundy has popped up. There's probably some algorithm

880
00:41:41,453 --> 00:41:45,693
Speaker 2: that grabs some things that might you know, grab people's

881
00:41:45,693 --> 00:41:48,453
Speaker 2: attention or whatever it might look legit. Yeah, but they've

882
00:41:48,453 --> 00:41:52,252
Speaker 2: got this one wrong. Well, I grabbed your attention. Yeah,

883
00:41:52,253 --> 00:41:54,333
Speaker 2: But I mean I'm never going to fall for it anyone,

884
00:41:54,413 --> 00:41:56,493
Speaker 2: And I can't believe people do still fall for those

885
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:59,172
Speaker 2: that saying that was a package being delivered, but we

886
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:01,973
Speaker 2: need all your details to be sent through whatever. But

887
00:42:02,213 --> 00:42:05,173
Speaker 2: just funny, yeah, funny that it came through from a

888
00:42:05,253 --> 00:42:07,173
Speaker 2: LUNDI of very goods.

889
00:42:07,453 --> 00:42:09,373
Speaker 4: Do you get a few of them? Actually, you were

890
00:42:09,373 --> 00:42:11,053
Speaker 4: talking about that yesterday you were getting flooded.

891
00:42:11,053 --> 00:42:14,813
Speaker 2: Well, I'm getting absolutely hammered by people claiming that they've

892
00:42:14,853 --> 00:42:17,692
Speaker 2: got past parcels arriving. I mean, if it's ever a

893
00:42:17,813 --> 00:42:22,493
Speaker 2: Gmail address worth some words and then a whole lot

894
00:42:22,493 --> 00:42:25,933
Speaker 2: of random numbers, it's not real. Yeah. Yeah, that's an

895
00:42:25,973 --> 00:42:28,413
Speaker 2: easy one. I mean, you know, if it actually does

896
00:42:28,493 --> 00:42:32,813
Speaker 2: come from New Zealand Post, it's a very very distinctive email,

897
00:42:33,053 --> 00:42:35,293
Speaker 2: very official looking, and they don't ask for any information

898
00:42:35,413 --> 00:42:38,573
Speaker 2: from Sethically it's important to remember. And look, you know,

899
00:42:38,653 --> 00:42:40,613
Speaker 2: Lundy's out on parole. He's not abound to be running

900
00:42:40,613 --> 00:42:43,133
Speaker 2: a male scam. So I'm pretty sure it's not from Lundy.

901
00:42:43,213 --> 00:42:44,093
Speaker 2: I don't think he has a phone.

902
00:42:44,133 --> 00:42:46,252
Speaker 4: Yeah, So anyway, we can put that one to bed.

903
00:42:46,733 --> 00:42:49,213
Speaker 4: Let's have a chat about getting into the family business

904
00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:53,013
Speaker 4: on the back of a story. Nice story, actually, Rinaldo.

905
00:42:53,213 --> 00:42:56,252
Speaker 4: Here's fifteen year old son fourteen year old son. Rather,

906
00:42:56,413 --> 00:42:59,373
Speaker 4: he has just been selected for the under fifteen national

907
00:42:59,453 --> 00:43:03,933
Speaker 4: side in Portugal. So he's absolutely following in his father's footsteps,

908
00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:07,013
Speaker 4: following the family business, so to speak, in the world

909
00:43:07,093 --> 00:43:08,893
Speaker 4: of football. But we wanted to make it a bit

910
00:43:09,053 --> 00:43:12,093
Speaker 4: broader than that. On those of you listening right now

911
00:43:12,093 --> 00:43:15,653
Speaker 4: that did go into the family business, or at least

912
00:43:15,653 --> 00:43:18,333
Speaker 4: followed the same career path as one of your parents.

913
00:43:18,733 --> 00:43:20,613
Speaker 2: I wonder if you go as well as Bronnie James.

914
00:43:21,213 --> 00:43:23,253
Speaker 2: That's not good. Bronnie James shouldn't be there anyway. That's

915
00:43:23,293 --> 00:43:26,732
Speaker 2: a whole another issue around lebron James's son playing together

916
00:43:26,773 --> 00:43:30,893
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Yeah, So going into the family business,

917
00:43:31,493 --> 00:43:32,933
Speaker 2: have you done it? What are the what are the

918
00:43:32,973 --> 00:43:35,693
Speaker 2: fish fish hooks about it? What what's it like to

919
00:43:35,733 --> 00:43:37,573
Speaker 2: be in the family business?

920
00:43:39,573 --> 00:43:39,893
Speaker 1: Uh?

921
00:43:40,053 --> 00:43:42,533
Speaker 2: You know, you have this idea in your head that

922
00:43:42,973 --> 00:43:46,333
Speaker 2: you'll go often and forge your own path in life.

923
00:43:46,893 --> 00:43:49,212
Speaker 2: A lot of us do. But is that the right thing?

924
00:43:49,413 --> 00:43:49,533
Speaker 2: Is it?

925
00:43:49,693 --> 00:43:49,893
Speaker 3: Is it?

926
00:43:50,013 --> 00:43:51,933
Speaker 2: Is it better to you if there's a good, solid

927
00:43:51,973 --> 00:43:56,093
Speaker 2: family business, you just lean into that and and then

928
00:43:56,133 --> 00:43:58,853
Speaker 2: you make your mark on that business. And and that's

929
00:43:58,853 --> 00:44:00,933
Speaker 2: a great life, and it's a great legacy of the

930
00:44:00,973 --> 00:44:04,853
Speaker 2: family or if you do that, or you just you

931
00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:06,053
Speaker 2: what's the word giving up?

932
00:44:06,333 --> 00:44:07,173
Speaker 19: Have you not? Have you not?

933
00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:09,853
Speaker 2: Is it just easy option? Yeah? I can see the

934
00:44:09,893 --> 00:44:10,373
Speaker 2: appeal of it.

935
00:44:10,413 --> 00:44:12,733
Speaker 4: If it is a family business that has gone through

936
00:44:12,893 --> 00:44:16,933
Speaker 4: multiple generations and has done very well at supporting the family,

937
00:44:17,213 --> 00:44:20,453
Speaker 4: the appeal to take it over would be quite strong

938
00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:22,692
Speaker 4: because it all it's ready to go, right, I mean,

939
00:44:22,733 --> 00:44:25,213
Speaker 4: clearly you've got to have some skills involved and that

940
00:44:25,373 --> 00:44:28,213
Speaker 4: handover from the father, mother to the children.

941
00:44:28,893 --> 00:44:30,453
Speaker 2: But it's good to go.

942
00:44:30,693 --> 00:44:33,413
Speaker 4: You could see your future set up for you, and

943
00:44:33,493 --> 00:44:36,853
Speaker 4: there's that pride of taking on the family business that

944
00:44:37,173 --> 00:44:38,693
Speaker 4: previous generations have worked out for.

945
00:44:38,973 --> 00:44:41,493
Speaker 2: You're a member of the Adams family, I find amusing.

946
00:44:42,693 --> 00:44:45,773
Speaker 4: So I could.

947
00:44:45,573 --> 00:44:47,172
Speaker 2: Have guessed that you'd be a friend of a member

948
00:44:47,173 --> 00:44:49,013
Speaker 2: of the Adam's family. Works perfectly, But anyway, that's not

949
00:44:49,013 --> 00:44:54,293
Speaker 2: an issue. Your dad successful electrician? Yes, the electric company? Yep,

950
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:57,333
Speaker 2: the electric company, great name. Were you and your brother

951
00:44:57,413 --> 00:45:01,053
Speaker 2: ever tempted to go into business with your dad and

952
00:45:01,533 --> 00:45:04,373
Speaker 2: work away with them in the van and then go

953
00:45:04,453 --> 00:45:05,813
Speaker 2: on and take over the business.

954
00:45:05,853 --> 00:45:08,773
Speaker 4: There was a point that I actually was looking seriously

955
00:45:08,813 --> 00:45:12,453
Speaker 4: into following him into becoming a sparky but Dad, and

956
00:45:12,493 --> 00:45:15,173
Speaker 4: strangely for Dad, and I think running his own business,

957
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:17,693
Speaker 4: he came up against a whole bunch of challenges and

958
00:45:17,693 --> 00:45:20,973
Speaker 4: people letting him down. It wasn't fun for Dad for

959
00:45:21,013 --> 00:45:22,933
Speaker 4: a long time there with his business. So he said

960
00:45:23,013 --> 00:45:25,733
Speaker 4: to me and my brothers that I don't want you

961
00:45:25,773 --> 00:45:28,133
Speaker 4: to get into a trade. I will if you get

962
00:45:28,173 --> 00:45:30,813
Speaker 4: into a profession where you use your brain instead of

963
00:45:30,813 --> 00:45:32,973
Speaker 4: your hands, I will buy each of you a car.

964
00:45:33,373 --> 00:45:35,613
Speaker 2: And he did. We took the car right.

965
00:45:35,773 --> 00:45:38,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a nice Sabari legacy actually nineteen ninety one.

966
00:45:38,453 --> 00:45:41,453
Speaker 2: So he thought that you were so useless that he

967
00:45:41,493 --> 00:45:43,652
Speaker 2: would pay you off with a car rather than have

968
00:45:43,733 --> 00:45:44,693
Speaker 2: you getting into the trade.

969
00:45:44,733 --> 00:45:46,413
Speaker 4: I told you what happened with the jib. Will you

970
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:48,333
Speaker 4: know when I accidentally cut the wrong hole and he

971
00:45:48,373 --> 00:45:50,813
Speaker 4: came in and absolutely flipped out. But yeah, it was

972
00:45:50,813 --> 00:45:53,133
Speaker 4: a strange thing, and I think he thought it was

973
00:45:53,173 --> 00:45:56,933
Speaker 4: hard graft. And whether that was the experience of everybody

974
00:45:57,013 --> 00:45:59,013
Speaker 4: that gets into a trade, clearly it's not. Clearly that

975
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:01,053
Speaker 4: is a very very good career choice for a lot

976
00:46:01,053 --> 00:46:01,413
Speaker 4: of people.

977
00:46:01,533 --> 00:46:05,333
Speaker 2: Maybe a few years ago now the trades weren't held

978
00:46:05,413 --> 00:46:08,973
Speaker 2: in the same level of respect they are now and

979
00:46:09,013 --> 00:46:11,373
Speaker 2: now I think every parent would be stoked if their

980
00:46:11,413 --> 00:46:12,413
Speaker 2: kids went into the trades.

981
00:46:12,573 --> 00:46:12,692
Speaker 1: Well.

982
00:46:12,733 --> 00:46:14,973
Speaker 4: Also a big part of it was granddad was a sparky.

983
00:46:15,013 --> 00:46:18,613
Speaker 4: So dad actually did follow the family business and followed

984
00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:21,893
Speaker 4: his dad into the career path of being a sparky.

985
00:46:21,933 --> 00:46:25,453
Speaker 4: And maybe that's a part that he slightly regretted that

986
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:27,773
Speaker 4: maybe he did want to do something slightly.

987
00:46:27,453 --> 00:46:29,652
Speaker 2: Different, but he was very successful. What do you well,

988
00:46:29,653 --> 00:46:33,373
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from these family these family companies.

989
00:46:33,373 --> 00:46:36,453
Speaker 2: What's it like to be the parent bringing your kid through.

990
00:46:36,733 --> 00:46:38,573
Speaker 2: What's it like to be the kid working with your

991
00:46:38,613 --> 00:46:41,293
Speaker 2: parent and a company. What's it like also to be

992
00:46:42,053 --> 00:46:44,413
Speaker 2: a person that's maybe taken on their dad's company or

993
00:46:44,453 --> 00:46:46,732
Speaker 2: built a company up themselves, or taken over their mum's

994
00:46:46,773 --> 00:46:49,773
Speaker 2: company or whatever, and then would love to keep it

995
00:46:49,813 --> 00:46:51,732
Speaker 2: in the family, But you just see your kids having

996
00:46:51,773 --> 00:46:52,813
Speaker 2: no interest in it. Yeah.

997
00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:55,453
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

998
00:46:55,653 --> 00:46:56,853
Speaker 4: Love to hear your experiences.

999
00:46:57,213 --> 00:46:59,173
Speaker 2: A lot of people have been getting this Lundy spam

1000
00:46:59,213 --> 00:47:00,893
Speaker 2: as well. Oh there we go, so not just you.

1001
00:47:01,213 --> 00:47:03,453
Speaker 2: This person said I got the Lundy spam too, told

1002
00:47:03,453 --> 00:47:06,093
Speaker 2: them to f off politely, don't do that. Yeah, don't

1003
00:47:06,133 --> 00:47:09,133
Speaker 2: respond at all. That's what they want when you get

1004
00:47:09,173 --> 00:47:12,333
Speaker 2: the Lundy spam and you and you reply to it, Yeah,

1005
00:47:12,373 --> 00:47:14,413
Speaker 2: that's what they want. They've got yeah, but they want

1006
00:47:14,413 --> 00:47:17,133
Speaker 2: your detail. Yeah. So just if it looks like a scam, yeah,

1007
00:47:17,733 --> 00:47:20,173
Speaker 2: delete it, report it, don't touch it.

1008
00:47:20,253 --> 00:47:22,172
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't take the bait. Do not take the bait.

1009
00:47:22,813 --> 00:47:24,652
Speaker 2: Don't take the bait of telling that you're for that's

1010
00:47:24,693 --> 00:47:25,813
Speaker 2: what they want. Yeah.

1011
00:47:25,853 --> 00:47:28,053
Speaker 4: And to this text from Ryan Tyler, your hands will

1012
00:47:28,053 --> 00:47:29,173
Speaker 4: be too soft to be a sparky.

1013
00:47:29,213 --> 00:47:29,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite right.

1014
00:47:29,853 --> 00:47:31,333
Speaker 4: You know, I'm very proud of my soft tends.

1015
00:47:31,573 --> 00:47:33,813
Speaker 2: And for this text that says, Matt was it fosh

1016
00:47:33,813 --> 00:47:36,213
Speaker 2: hooks or fishhocks? It was fush hooks. Yeah, I'm in

1017
00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:38,173
Speaker 2: New Zealander. Yeah, thank you very much.

1018
00:47:38,613 --> 00:47:40,212
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've gone

1019
00:47:40,213 --> 00:47:42,093
Speaker 4: into the family business, love to hear from you. It

1020
00:47:42,173 --> 00:47:46,212
Speaker 4: is fourteen bus two.

1021
00:47:45,213 --> 00:47:49,813
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons. Call,

1022
00:47:49,973 --> 00:47:52,373
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1023
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:52,613
Speaker 6: Zed B.

1024
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:56,173
Speaker 4: News Talk ZED. Be great to have your company on

1025
00:47:56,173 --> 00:47:58,773
Speaker 4: this Friday afternoon. We're talking about getting into the family business.

1026
00:47:58,813 --> 00:48:02,173
Speaker 4: It was loosely related to a story about Ronaldo's son.

1027
00:48:02,253 --> 00:48:04,293
Speaker 4: He is fourteen years old, just been selected for the

1028
00:48:04,373 --> 00:48:06,933
Speaker 4: under fifteen Portugal side. So followed this old man into

1029
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:09,973
Speaker 4: the family business of football. Hopefull he is successful.

1030
00:48:10,173 --> 00:48:13,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll talk about my dad's attempts to get me

1031
00:48:13,653 --> 00:48:16,693
Speaker 2: to follow him into the family business. Ander. But Greg,

1032
00:48:16,773 --> 00:48:18,533
Speaker 2: you followed your dad into his industry.

1033
00:48:19,613 --> 00:48:22,573
Speaker 8: Yeah, I did. I was twenty and on the same

1034
00:48:22,653 --> 00:48:24,533
Speaker 8: day I remember it well, my dad offered me a

1035
00:48:24,613 --> 00:48:28,533
Speaker 8: job in business that he earned fifty percent on, and

1036
00:48:28,653 --> 00:48:31,413
Speaker 8: my mate offered me he was going on an iwa

1037
00:48:31,493 --> 00:48:33,413
Speaker 8: you in six months, and I had to make a

1038
00:48:33,413 --> 00:48:36,373
Speaker 8: decision about what I was going to do. So I

1039
00:48:36,453 --> 00:48:40,093
Speaker 8: did in brackets this a sensible thing, and went and

1040
00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:42,853
Speaker 8: went to my dad for the next sort of ten years.

1041
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:51,133
Speaker 8: The problem was, after ten years Dad retired and all right,

1042
00:48:51,173 --> 00:48:53,053
Speaker 8: this is the first time. So I worked my guts

1043
00:48:53,093 --> 00:48:55,493
Speaker 8: out for ten years. The company was really successful while

1044
00:48:55,533 --> 00:48:58,213
Speaker 8: I was there. When it came to Dad to retire,

1045
00:48:58,293 --> 00:49:00,413
Speaker 8: here was a clause in the contract that he was

1046
00:49:00,453 --> 00:49:02,613
Speaker 8: a business partner, that he had to sell his heart

1047
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:06,013
Speaker 8: to his business partner first. We had to give him

1048
00:49:06,053 --> 00:49:11,493
Speaker 8: the first right. So long story short, I've worked on

1049
00:49:11,573 --> 00:49:13,413
Speaker 8: this place for ten years and it wasn't something I've

1050
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:15,333
Speaker 8: really wanted to do it. I wanted to be a

1051
00:49:15,373 --> 00:49:18,253
Speaker 8: hope builder, but but he was in the printing industry

1052
00:49:18,253 --> 00:49:20,453
Speaker 8: and it's sort of where I where I spent my

1053
00:49:20,453 --> 00:49:23,573
Speaker 8: first teen years and ended up just being another word

1054
00:49:23,613 --> 00:49:25,252
Speaker 8: for it. Benefit to your owned by someone else.

1055
00:49:25,733 --> 00:49:28,373
Speaker 2: That's pretty rough. And how did that? I mean did

1056
00:49:28,493 --> 00:49:30,333
Speaker 2: your dad mustn't have liked that either.

1057
00:49:31,453 --> 00:49:34,573
Speaker 8: Well, it sort of worked out financially because he ended

1058
00:49:34,613 --> 00:49:37,172
Speaker 8: up selling to a business part of away more than

1059
00:49:37,173 --> 00:49:38,772
Speaker 8: the company was worse and then gave me a whole

1060
00:49:38,813 --> 00:49:41,893
Speaker 8: lot of cash to start my own place. So financially,

1061
00:49:42,213 --> 00:49:43,933
Speaker 8: that's sort of what he did, the sort of right

1062
00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:46,253
Speaker 8: thing by me, if it makes sense. But yeah, I

1063
00:49:46,333 --> 00:49:49,212
Speaker 8: always my biggest releet is not doing that oway when

1064
00:49:49,293 --> 00:49:51,813
Speaker 8: I was young, I would have done it, if I.

1065
00:49:54,093 --> 00:49:56,333
Speaker 2: Know, I see it's saying. And was your family name

1066
00:49:56,373 --> 00:49:57,013
Speaker 2: on the business?

1067
00:49:58,133 --> 00:50:01,172
Speaker 8: Yes? Right, I started the business and then this other

1068
00:50:01,213 --> 00:50:05,453
Speaker 8: guy brought in ah, you know.

1069
00:50:04,933 --> 00:50:07,373
Speaker 2: And with that money that your dad gave you from

1070
00:50:07,453 --> 00:50:09,693
Speaker 2: from from you know, selling half the business to his

1071
00:50:09,733 --> 00:50:12,973
Speaker 2: other business partner. Did you go into the same business

1072
00:50:13,013 --> 00:50:14,773
Speaker 2: or a different business when you when you spend that

1073
00:50:15,853 --> 00:50:16,533
Speaker 2: so where a.

1074
00:50:16,573 --> 00:50:19,252
Speaker 8: Print is more started to think more of a die

1075
00:50:19,253 --> 00:50:22,053
Speaker 8: cutting side. I ended up going into the book business side,

1076
00:50:22,093 --> 00:50:26,413
Speaker 8: so it didn't really compete. What's the old company? Yeah

1077
00:50:26,533 --> 00:50:29,933
Speaker 8: so so same same sort of industry, but slightly different

1078
00:50:29,973 --> 00:50:34,773
Speaker 8: sort of screams. So, yeah, if you were going to

1079
00:50:34,813 --> 00:50:37,652
Speaker 8: do that, I'll find out exactly what the rules are

1080
00:50:37,693 --> 00:50:38,453
Speaker 8: when it comes to you.

1081
00:50:38,733 --> 00:50:40,773
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you so you know if you're going

1082
00:50:40,813 --> 00:50:42,293
Speaker 2: to spend a lot of your time in that business

1083
00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:45,813
Speaker 2: that you do actually have the possibility of becoming yours

1084
00:50:45,813 --> 00:50:47,732
Speaker 2: and continuing on the name.

1085
00:50:48,813 --> 00:50:51,133
Speaker 8: And I worked like a dog when I I thought

1086
00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:54,333
Speaker 8: there was something marriage And.

1087
00:50:55,893 --> 00:50:56,093
Speaker 3: You know.

1088
00:50:58,093 --> 00:51:00,813
Speaker 2: How big was the business? Greed? Did you have many employees?

1089
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:06,652
Speaker 8: It was about the steam in league business found a lot,

1090
00:51:06,733 --> 00:51:09,573
Speaker 8: but it was a good day. The printing industry is

1091
00:51:09,613 --> 00:51:10,373
Speaker 8: to make a few bucks.

1092
00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:14,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, And how did it go? So without the family DNA,

1093
00:51:15,013 --> 00:51:17,093
Speaker 2: without your dad or you involved in the business. And

1094
00:51:17,133 --> 00:51:19,253
Speaker 2: it sounds like you were working at your guts out

1095
00:51:19,293 --> 00:51:20,853
Speaker 2: and you and I if you were, it was probably

1096
00:51:20,853 --> 00:51:23,172
Speaker 2: you probably got it from your dad once you two

1097
00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:24,893
Speaker 2: were out of the business. How did the business go?

1098
00:51:26,173 --> 00:51:30,692
Speaker 8: Well? Like the whole frinding industry collect even the place

1099
00:51:30,733 --> 00:51:34,172
Speaker 8: of the book finding. Oh, I didn't do so well

1100
00:51:34,173 --> 00:51:37,853
Speaker 8: after the GSC all my commercial printing company customers will

1101
00:51:37,893 --> 00:51:42,333
Speaker 8: win out of business and I'm no longer. There'd be

1102
00:51:42,373 --> 00:51:45,173
Speaker 8: a three percent of the people in the printing industry

1103
00:51:45,173 --> 00:51:48,013
Speaker 8: now because of technology and frames and stuff like that.

1104
00:51:48,053 --> 00:51:48,293
Speaker 2: You know.

1105
00:51:48,453 --> 00:51:51,613
Speaker 8: So so the other company is still around, but it's

1106
00:51:51,653 --> 00:51:54,053
Speaker 8: just a blot on what it was. And Beck and

1107
00:51:54,133 --> 00:51:57,413
Speaker 8: the heyday, so, you know, not just it just really

1108
00:51:57,493 --> 00:52:00,453
Speaker 8: put me too. I had to look after my little

1109
00:52:00,493 --> 00:52:02,293
Speaker 8: bill the other day, and my wife's aggestioned I go

1110
00:52:02,333 --> 00:52:03,692
Speaker 8: down to whehouse and buyers.

1111
00:52:03,733 --> 00:52:04,293
Speaker 20: So I did that.

1112
00:52:04,773 --> 00:52:06,652
Speaker 8: Came home with their dollars with the stocks and two

1113
00:52:06,693 --> 00:52:09,652
Speaker 8: hundred dollars with the negos. If you ever come to it,

1114
00:52:09,813 --> 00:52:12,733
Speaker 8: if you ever come to her house, sni for yourself, Tilot,

1115
00:52:12,853 --> 00:52:14,573
Speaker 8: is you going to get an absolutely beautiful.

1116
00:52:16,093 --> 00:52:17,093
Speaker 2: What did you buy?

1117
00:52:17,093 --> 00:52:17,373
Speaker 3: Greg?

1118
00:52:17,453 --> 00:52:18,172
Speaker 2: What was the Lego?

1119
00:52:18,613 --> 00:52:20,373
Speaker 8: I bought them? I'm under the as I bought the

1120
00:52:20,453 --> 00:52:21,053
Speaker 8: Miraica's cup.

1121
00:52:21,533 --> 00:52:24,333
Speaker 2: I looked at that. I looked at that. I was

1122
00:52:24,373 --> 00:52:25,692
Speaker 2: I was looking at that at the Lego store when

1123
00:52:25,693 --> 00:52:28,613
Speaker 2: I bought the Endurance the other day. Sheckleton's ship but

1124
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:32,053
Speaker 2: I was weighing up between those those two things. No,

1125
00:52:32,133 --> 00:52:35,093
Speaker 2: that's a that's a beautiful that's a beautiful piece of legos.

1126
00:52:35,133 --> 00:52:38,253
Speaker 8: So like you are such a more on an.

1127
00:52:39,853 --> 00:52:42,133
Speaker 2: I think my partner quite likes me just you know,

1128
00:52:42,213 --> 00:52:44,252
Speaker 2: beaving away in the corner with my lego and leaving

1129
00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:44,973
Speaker 2: her alone.

1130
00:52:46,773 --> 00:52:48,692
Speaker 4: Man's just playing with his lego for another hour, and

1131
00:52:48,693 --> 00:52:51,373
Speaker 4: it gives me some space. Craig, you're a good man.

1132
00:52:51,413 --> 00:52:54,613
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. All right, have a good weekend.

1133
00:52:54,933 --> 00:52:57,013
Speaker 4: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of call.

1134
00:52:57,053 --> 00:52:59,133
Speaker 4: Did you go into the family business or was there

1135
00:53:00,253 --> 00:53:02,493
Speaker 4: a bit of pressure or the potential for you to

1136
00:53:02,493 --> 00:53:04,613
Speaker 4: go into the family business and you decided not to.

1137
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:08,213
Speaker 4: I think things have changed a lot over the last.

1138
00:53:07,973 --> 00:53:08,853
Speaker 2: Twenty thirty years.

1139
00:53:08,893 --> 00:53:11,772
Speaker 4: Traditionally it would be quite common to follow your father

1140
00:53:11,893 --> 00:53:13,613
Speaker 4: or your mother into their chosen career.

1141
00:53:13,413 --> 00:53:16,853
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely, and I would love it if I

1142
00:53:16,933 --> 00:53:18,733
Speaker 2: had it. You know, I've got a couple of businesses,

1143
00:53:18,733 --> 00:53:21,373
Speaker 2: but I don't think my kids can really follow me in.

1144
00:53:21,813 --> 00:53:24,732
Speaker 2: But I've been talking with one of my sons about

1145
00:53:24,733 --> 00:53:27,453
Speaker 2: starting a business together, just a little business. Well, well

1146
00:53:27,493 --> 00:53:31,413
Speaker 2: he's going through university because I think I mean probably

1147
00:53:31,413 --> 00:53:34,013
Speaker 2: from a parent's perspective. I'm not sure if it's as

1148
00:53:34,093 --> 00:53:37,253
Speaker 2: much of a dream from the kids perspective, but working

1149
00:53:37,293 --> 00:53:40,133
Speaker 2: with your with your with your sons. Yeah, having an

1150
00:53:40,173 --> 00:53:43,573
Speaker 2: old Matthew and Sons company, it's got a lovely name

1151
00:53:43,573 --> 00:53:44,933
Speaker 2: to it. I love the idea of that.

1152
00:53:45,053 --> 00:53:45,292
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1153
00:53:45,453 --> 00:53:47,172
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1154
00:53:47,173 --> 00:53:49,133
Speaker 4: to call, love to hear your stories on this one.

1155
00:53:49,173 --> 00:53:50,173
Speaker 2: Twenty two pas.

1156
00:53:50,013 --> 00:53:57,853
Speaker 1: Two matd Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1157
00:53:57,853 --> 00:53:59,813
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1158
00:54:00,133 --> 00:54:02,172
Speaker 4: Good afternoon is twenty four past two, and we're talking

1159
00:54:02,213 --> 00:54:04,733
Speaker 4: about getting into the family business or following your parents

1160
00:54:04,773 --> 00:54:07,373
Speaker 4: into their chosen trade. Was it something you did?

1161
00:54:08,493 --> 00:54:11,693
Speaker 2: Sticky ones. The parents hate talking about succession and just

1162
00:54:11,773 --> 00:54:14,853
Speaker 2: give you the old line, it'll be yours one day.

1163
00:54:14,933 --> 00:54:17,133
Speaker 2: Then they drop dead. And no matter what it says

1164
00:54:17,253 --> 00:54:19,813
Speaker 2: in the will, and even if you have been the

1165
00:54:19,853 --> 00:54:22,732
Speaker 2: one that slogged their guts out on it your whole life,

1166
00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:25,213
Speaker 2: your lazy siblings are entitled to their share and you

1167
00:54:25,293 --> 00:54:27,093
Speaker 2: have to sell the farm and it's all gone. That

1168
00:54:27,373 --> 00:54:31,813
Speaker 2: is freaking tragic. Yeah, when that happens here, you know,

1169
00:54:31,893 --> 00:54:33,973
Speaker 2: especially if it's been in you know, because the amount

1170
00:54:34,053 --> 00:54:35,973
Speaker 2: of work that people put into a farm, the amount

1171
00:54:36,013 --> 00:54:39,133
Speaker 2: of you know, blood, sweat and tears people put into

1172
00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:42,613
Speaker 2: running their farm. And you know, if you think you yeah,

1173
00:54:42,653 --> 00:54:44,053
Speaker 2: and then just to have to sell it because your

1174
00:54:44,133 --> 00:54:47,453
Speaker 2: kids are your brothers and sisters are useless city folk

1175
00:54:47,493 --> 00:54:50,853
Speaker 2: that you hear about that so often they shop to

1176
00:54:50,933 --> 00:54:53,853
Speaker 2: London and they want the millions of dollars out of

1177
00:54:53,853 --> 00:54:58,453
Speaker 2: the farm just to live their disgustingly vacuous city life. Yeah.

1178
00:54:58,573 --> 00:55:00,692
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you took

1179
00:55:00,733 --> 00:55:02,813
Speaker 4: over the family farm, love to hear from you. And

1180
00:55:02,853 --> 00:55:05,652
Speaker 4: did you have a situation similar to that where you

1181
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:08,013
Speaker 4: were the one of the siblings who wanted to get

1182
00:55:08,013 --> 00:55:08,413
Speaker 4: into far.

1183
00:55:09,453 --> 00:55:12,533
Speaker 2: You didn't join the family business, Andrew, but you took

1184
00:55:12,533 --> 00:55:14,093
Speaker 2: your father's advice to get into the trades.

1185
00:55:15,533 --> 00:55:18,853
Speaker 7: Yeah, the teenage lad. It was possibly the first time

1186
00:55:18,893 --> 00:55:21,613
Speaker 7: I ever thought my father was right about anything, as

1187
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:27,652
Speaker 7: I was going stir crazy at college thinking I don't

1188
00:55:27,653 --> 00:55:29,933
Speaker 7: want to set exams and I've still got another year

1189
00:55:29,973 --> 00:55:32,133
Speaker 7: to go. Oh god, Dad was right, I should get

1190
00:55:32,173 --> 00:55:35,613
Speaker 7: a trade. And I was the youngest of three boys

1191
00:55:35,653 --> 00:55:39,732
Speaker 7: and only one who took his advice, and I think

1192
00:55:39,773 --> 00:55:42,652
Speaker 7: it was definitely the making of me. He was an electrician,

1193
00:55:42,733 --> 00:55:47,413
Speaker 7: I'm a plumber, and I just couldn't see myself going

1194
00:55:47,413 --> 00:55:49,173
Speaker 7: to OH I thought I was going to university, and

1195
00:55:49,213 --> 00:55:51,373
Speaker 7: then couldn't stand the thought of the classroom, a little

1196
00:55:51,413 --> 00:55:54,133
Speaker 7: oone in a lecture room, let alone an office. So

1197
00:55:54,253 --> 00:55:57,172
Speaker 7: that's why, all of a sudden I thought he was right.

1198
00:55:58,093 --> 00:55:59,933
Speaker 7: And then I even thought I couldn't be a builder,

1199
00:56:00,013 --> 00:56:01,693
Speaker 7: being stuck on the one site forever.

1200
00:56:01,893 --> 00:56:04,093
Speaker 1: So your first plumbing.

1201
00:56:03,853 --> 00:56:06,773
Speaker 7: Was the plumbing was the ideal solution in the end,

1202
00:56:06,893 --> 00:56:11,493
Speaker 7: when I turned up to the interview and I said,

1203
00:56:11,653 --> 00:56:13,373
Speaker 7: I got to say to him before I die that,

1204
00:56:13,933 --> 00:56:17,693
Speaker 7: but before he died that his advice is probably what

1205
00:56:17,773 --> 00:56:21,973
Speaker 7: it has allowed to be to be such a happy person.

1206
00:56:22,133 --> 00:56:26,053
Speaker 7: I can't imagine going to education, or working in an office,

1207
00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:30,213
Speaker 7: or just doing any job that you hate and managing

1208
00:56:30,253 --> 00:56:32,373
Speaker 7: to be happy in the rest of your life. Whereas

1209
00:56:32,773 --> 00:56:35,133
Speaker 7: I'm fifty seven, I love going to work, I love

1210
00:56:35,173 --> 00:56:39,973
Speaker 7: my job, I love helping my clients, and I'm happy

1211
00:56:40,173 --> 00:56:40,933
Speaker 7: twenty four seven.

1212
00:56:41,773 --> 00:56:45,413
Speaker 2: That's an awesome story. That's an awesome story, And how

1213
00:56:45,413 --> 00:56:47,253
Speaker 2: great are your dad to hear that you know that

1214
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:50,133
Speaker 2: would make a father so happy if son said, you know,

1215
00:56:50,293 --> 00:56:52,493
Speaker 2: thank you for that advice, because it made my life.

1216
00:56:52,493 --> 00:56:54,173
Speaker 2: I can't imagine hearing.

1217
00:56:55,053 --> 00:56:58,813
Speaker 7: A couple of times. Yeah, and he's got three sons,

1218
00:56:59,333 --> 00:57:01,493
Speaker 7: and as much as I'm the only one who's a tradesman,

1219
00:57:01,733 --> 00:57:05,733
Speaker 7: Dad was self employed where my oldest brother was born

1220
00:57:05,853 --> 00:57:08,813
Speaker 7: and when I was born. Four years later he went

1221
00:57:08,893 --> 00:57:13,013
Speaker 7: back on wages as an electrician for the National grid basically,

1222
00:57:13,773 --> 00:57:17,693
Speaker 7: and he was never self employed again. But all three

1223
00:57:17,693 --> 00:57:21,893
Speaker 7: of his sons are self employed running successful businesses. So yeah,

1224
00:57:21,893 --> 00:57:22,813
Speaker 7: he was very proud.

1225
00:57:23,093 --> 00:57:25,293
Speaker 2: That's really really cool because that's the other thing, like

1226
00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:29,013
Speaker 2: you may not follow your parents into their business, but

1227
00:57:29,213 --> 00:57:31,933
Speaker 2: you see what they do and what the world that

1228
00:57:31,973 --> 00:57:34,813
Speaker 2: they operate and opens up your mind in that area.

1229
00:57:34,933 --> 00:57:37,013
Speaker 2: So if you've never seen anyone run their own business,

1230
00:57:37,053 --> 00:57:39,533
Speaker 2: and that's slightly harder, you know, if you're from a

1231
00:57:39,533 --> 00:57:41,493
Speaker 2: family where people run their own businesses, you're more likely

1232
00:57:41,493 --> 00:57:43,973
Speaker 2: to run your own own own business. You know, it's

1233
00:57:44,053 --> 00:57:46,853
Speaker 2: less scary in as people that you can ask questions about.

1234
00:57:47,013 --> 00:57:49,933
Speaker 2: So you say, you're fifty seven, have you got kids, Andrew.

1235
00:57:51,013 --> 00:57:51,813
Speaker 7: I've got adults.

1236
00:57:52,533 --> 00:57:55,253
Speaker 2: I've got adult kids, and are they all walking? They

1237
00:57:55,573 --> 00:57:57,493
Speaker 2: are all part of Andrew and Sons Plumbing.

1238
00:57:59,893 --> 00:58:02,333
Speaker 7: No, they are not part of Andrew the Plumber, a

1239
00:58:02,413 --> 00:58:04,333
Speaker 7: part from when they do jobs for free for them.

1240
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:10,453
Speaker 7: I've just done one of the john I've installed six

1241
00:58:10,493 --> 00:58:13,093
Speaker 7: showery because of my life and now thanks to my daughter,

1242
00:58:13,653 --> 00:58:16,653
Speaker 7: I've also installed one shoves so.

1243
00:58:18,693 --> 00:58:20,453
Speaker 2: Well that one of the best, one of the best

1244
00:58:20,453 --> 00:58:23,013
Speaker 2: things that you can do for your family. As being

1245
00:58:23,053 --> 00:58:26,013
Speaker 2: a trade yeah, so useful, so useful.

1246
00:58:26,053 --> 00:58:30,493
Speaker 7: For my new wife has two sons for builders, and

1247
00:58:30,493 --> 00:58:33,213
Speaker 7: one of them's basically well six months short of being

1248
00:58:33,213 --> 00:58:37,133
Speaker 7: a qualified mechanic. And so we've got quite a network

1249
00:58:37,213 --> 00:58:40,733
Speaker 7: of trade available to us. And we are useful people.

1250
00:58:41,053 --> 00:58:45,293
Speaker 7: And I find that with my clients most people appreciate

1251
00:58:46,053 --> 00:58:48,533
Speaker 7: tradesmen for what they can do that they can't do,

1252
00:58:48,933 --> 00:58:55,453
Speaker 7: and that alone is gives you warm fuzzies to agree.

1253
00:58:55,493 --> 00:59:01,373
Speaker 7: I've had very few bad customers or bad payers or disputes.

1254
00:59:01,773 --> 00:59:05,773
Speaker 7: It's like people know what they're capable of doing as

1255
00:59:05,773 --> 00:59:09,093
Speaker 7: opposed to what I'm capable of doing. And and it's

1256
00:59:09,133 --> 00:59:12,173
Speaker 7: like me, I pay an electrician to do my electrical work,

1257
00:59:12,213 --> 00:59:15,653
Speaker 7: I pay an accountant to do my accounting, and I

1258
00:59:15,733 --> 00:59:21,453
Speaker 7: stick to plumbing. Yeah, I don't even try and six cards.

1259
00:59:21,733 --> 00:59:23,813
Speaker 2: So I was actually listening to this podcast. I wish

1260
00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:25,173
Speaker 2: I could I look up the name of the guy,

1261
00:59:25,253 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 2: but he was. He was arguing that we've become too

1262
00:59:28,293 --> 00:59:30,853
Speaker 2: much of you know, the old saying, what is it,

1263
00:59:32,133 --> 00:59:34,333
Speaker 2: jack of trades, master of none or whatever it is,

1264
00:59:35,013 --> 00:59:37,093
Speaker 2: And he's saying that that's becoming more and more the case.

1265
00:59:37,373 --> 00:59:40,133
Speaker 2: And if you just focus on one thing, you know,

1266
00:59:40,173 --> 00:59:42,293
Speaker 2: you could probably be eighty percent of a lot of things,

1267
00:59:42,333 --> 00:59:44,333
Speaker 2: but that extra twenty percent you can be if you

1268
00:59:44,453 --> 00:59:47,293
Speaker 2: just focus on that one thing that you become very

1269
00:59:47,373 --> 00:59:50,773
Speaker 2: good at, and that's your thing, that is actually a

1270
00:59:50,853 --> 00:59:52,653
Speaker 2: huge advantage over the other people that are trying to

1271
00:59:52,693 --> 00:59:55,533
Speaker 2: do every every little thing in this world. So it

1272
00:59:55,533 --> 00:59:58,413
Speaker 2: sounds like you got that nailed. Hey, now, Andrew, did

1273
00:59:58,413 --> 01:00:01,493
Speaker 2: you and your dad? So he's an aultrition to plumber.

1274
01:00:01,493 --> 01:00:03,293
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever end up working on the same site.

1275
01:00:04,693 --> 01:00:04,853
Speaker 9: No.

1276
01:00:04,973 --> 01:00:09,573
Speaker 7: Dad was always on wages. Yeah, my entire life growing

1277
01:00:09,653 --> 01:00:12,853
Speaker 7: up and through a degree. I joked about it sometimes

1278
01:00:12,853 --> 01:00:14,613
Speaker 7: on site. I don't think he taught me a single

1279
01:00:14,693 --> 01:00:18,853
Speaker 7: thing about electricity. So all I limit myself to is

1280
01:00:19,373 --> 01:00:21,973
Speaker 7: wiring up a pre wire hot water cylinder or a

1281
01:00:22,013 --> 01:00:25,693
Speaker 7: power lead or changing a firmostat and an element. And

1282
01:00:25,733 --> 01:00:27,573
Speaker 7: apart from that, I don't go near the stuff. I

1283
01:00:27,653 --> 01:00:34,293
Speaker 7: always joke that electricity is witchcraft, and electricity kills you

1284
01:00:34,373 --> 01:00:36,733
Speaker 7: quickly and plumbing kills you slowly.

1285
01:00:37,173 --> 01:00:40,653
Speaker 2: So that yeah, very true.

1286
01:00:40,733 --> 01:00:44,613
Speaker 4: Wise advice, Andrew, thank you very much, just on the

1287
01:00:44,893 --> 01:00:47,933
Speaker 4: you know, getting into the trade situation, and great advice

1288
01:00:47,933 --> 01:00:51,213
Speaker 4: from Andrew's old man, but different advice from my dad.

1289
01:00:52,093 --> 01:00:54,653
Speaker 4: I wonder if there was a time there that trades

1290
01:00:54,733 --> 01:00:56,853
Speaker 4: fell off a little bit, that they weren't the salary

1291
01:00:57,093 --> 01:00:59,253
Speaker 4: wasn't quite keeping up with some of the other professions

1292
01:00:59,253 --> 01:01:01,853
Speaker 4: out there, so it was maybe a smarter idea to

1293
01:01:01,893 --> 01:01:03,973
Speaker 4: try and get to UNI if you if you've got

1294
01:01:03,973 --> 01:01:04,453
Speaker 4: a direction.

1295
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Speaker 2: There was an idea, and I don't know how it

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Speaker 2: got embedded that going to university was the answer for everything,

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Speaker 2: and so the whole push of New Zealand changed. We

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Speaker 2: were saying, if your kids go to university, they're succeeding.

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Speaker 2: You can celebrate that. And so a lot of kids

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Speaker 2: went to university, but they ended up with stupid degrees

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01:01:20,613 --> 01:01:24,573
Speaker 2: like me anthropology and philosoph philosophy degrees like I've got. Yeah,

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01:01:24,613 --> 01:01:28,973
Speaker 2: absolutely worthless degrees. And meanwhile, the trades, which were being

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Speaker 2: sort of locked down on from snobbily from elite people

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Speaker 2: that were going to the universities, actually grew and became

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Speaker 2: so much more powerful because the idea that everyone should

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Speaker 2: go to universities is ridiculous. People should go to university

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Speaker 2: if they want to, but a lot of going to

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Speaker 2: the university is just luxury learning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And some of those degrees, you know, take

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Speaker 4: your eight nine years to complete, rack up a massive

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Speaker 4: student loan, and then you get into your first job

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Speaker 4: and it would pay far less than a lot of

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Speaker 4: the trades would.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 4: call if you got into the family business.

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Speaker 2: Love to chat with you, or if, like Andrew, you

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Speaker 2: took your parent's advice into what to go into in

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Speaker 2: life and did that work out or not. One hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. It is twenty seven to.

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Speaker 1: Three US Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxes,

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Speaker 1: it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 15: The Minister in charge of redress for abuse and State

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Speaker 15: care survivors says it's unclear how many will come forward

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Speaker 15: with claims. The government's committed seven hundred and seventy four

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Speaker 15: million dollars to improve the redress system, including boosting the

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Speaker 15: average payment. Protesters are gathering across New Zealand angry with

1328
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Speaker 15: the pay equity claim changes pushed through Parliament this week.

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Speaker 15: A number are in East Auckland outside the office of

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Speaker 15: Brook van Velden, the minister responsible for the changes. A

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Speaker 15: religious expert says all eyes will be on how the

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Speaker 15: new pope addresses ongoing conflicts, including Ukraine and the Middle East.

1333
01:03:04,613 --> 01:03:08,333
Speaker 15: Religious history professor Peter Lynham says the Pope has enormous

1334
01:03:08,373 --> 01:03:11,613
Speaker 15: influence and can get an audience anywhere in the world.

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01:03:12,693 --> 01:03:15,653
Speaker 15: Customs has seized almost one hundred and sixty kilograms of

1336
01:03:15,693 --> 01:03:18,893
Speaker 15: cocaine at the port of Todonger officers, police and the

1337
01:03:18,973 --> 01:03:22,573
Speaker 15: Navy searched a vessel which had arrived from Panama and

1338
01:03:22,613 --> 01:03:25,853
Speaker 15: weather for some parts of the country today. Warnings are

1339
01:03:25,893 --> 01:03:27,853
Speaker 15: in place for the North Island and the top of

1340
01:03:27,893 --> 01:03:31,973
Speaker 15: the South. The unlucky six Stars who missed out on

1341
01:03:32,013 --> 01:03:35,293
Speaker 15: the All Blacks Jersey read more at NZID Herald Premium.

1342
01:03:35,493 --> 01:03:37,733
Speaker 15: Now back to matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Raylan, we're talking about getting into the family business. Was

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01:03:41,493 --> 01:03:44,813
Speaker 4: it a career path you decided on. Was there some

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01:03:44,973 --> 01:03:48,213
Speaker 4: ambition to get into what your parents were doing o

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01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:51,093
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It kicked off from

1348
01:03:51,413 --> 01:03:54,173
Speaker 4: Ronaldo's son, who was getting into Ronaldo's family.

1349
01:03:54,013 --> 01:03:54,973
Speaker 2: Business of football.

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Speaker 4: But we're obviously taking it a lot broader than that,

1351
01:03:58,373 --> 01:04:00,693
Speaker 4: and we've heard from a lot of people who listened

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01:04:00,813 --> 01:04:02,813
Speaker 4: to their parents' advice and it worked out for them.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was interesting with my dad. He was quite clean

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01:04:04,733 --> 01:04:06,853
Speaker 2: for me to get into the family business. Well, you know,

1356
01:04:06,853 --> 01:04:08,253
Speaker 2: we grew up on a farm, but my dad was

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01:04:08,533 --> 01:04:11,173
Speaker 2: also a doctor. Yeah, and he was quite keen for

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01:04:11,213 --> 01:04:13,773
Speaker 2: me the end of the family business. And I picked

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01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:16,253
Speaker 2: my subjects at school, you know, a lot of chemistry

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01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:18,413
Speaker 2: and maths in there, just to keep my options open

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Speaker 2: for being a doctor. But it was just a huge

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Speaker 2: There was just this little problem. I was really thick,

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Speaker 2: and so there was no chance of me ever becoming

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Speaker 2: a doctor.

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Speaker 4: Is that a little problem or a big problem?

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01:04:28,733 --> 01:04:28,973
Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 19: Goodhapp And then how are you.

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 19: I was lucky enough to have a family business that

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01:04:37,773 --> 01:04:40,373
Speaker 19: was quite large in New Zealand, which is now being solved.

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Speaker 19: But being the firstborn child, it was all going to

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Speaker 19: university and you needed to have both, you know that

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Speaker 19: accolade and do what you needed to do. I obviously

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01:04:51,533 --> 01:04:56,693
Speaker 19: started business and marketing, did psychology, and then did viticulture

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Speaker 19: and kind of started to realize that Dad was more

1377
01:05:00,973 --> 01:05:05,693
Speaker 19: interested in the actually people that had the experience over

1378
01:05:05,973 --> 01:05:09,133
Speaker 19: the piece of paper. But as I was doing these degrees,

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Speaker 19: as I was getting through them, because the world was

1380
01:05:12,773 --> 01:05:16,453
Speaker 19: changing so fast, my degree was kind of not really

1381
01:05:16,573 --> 01:05:19,813
Speaker 19: keeping up with the time. So it was the kind

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01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:24,373
Speaker 19: of a back and forth thing where I was sitting. Obviously,

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01:05:24,533 --> 01:05:27,413
Speaker 19: the last degree that I did went into the family business,

1384
01:05:27,493 --> 01:05:30,693
Speaker 19: and you know, I went overseas to Gongjao and lived

1385
01:05:30,733 --> 01:05:34,773
Speaker 19: in there and did some amazing things. But it's definitely

1386
01:05:35,093 --> 01:05:38,853
Speaker 19: something where I think the university is definitely the lawyers,

1387
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Speaker 19: the doctors and no sorts of things. But I found

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Speaker 19: from my experience working in a family business that the

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Speaker 19: experience that I was getting, you know, right down from

1390
01:05:48,693 --> 01:05:51,493
Speaker 19: swooping the floors, you know, right through to the top,

1391
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Speaker 19: was a faster progression than it was having a piece

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Speaker 19: of paper behind me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so was it as any times at all

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Speaker 2: when you used what you learned at university.

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Speaker 19: Well, you like to say, look, there are definite benefits

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01:06:14,413 --> 01:06:15,973
Speaker 19: to it and those sorts of things. But I think

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Speaker 19: with the world changing so quickly these days, that all

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01:06:21,933 --> 01:06:24,093
Speaker 19: due respect to the university, so I just don't think

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Speaker 19: they're keeping up with the changes. And I think by

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01:06:26,453 --> 01:06:29,133
Speaker 19: the time you finish your degree, you're kind of then

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01:06:29,213 --> 01:06:33,693
Speaker 19: having to learn new and it's yeah, so I think

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01:06:34,253 --> 01:06:37,213
Speaker 19: do the university thing. If you've got a family business,

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01:06:37,253 --> 01:06:39,213
Speaker 19: that's going to help you. But if you've got a

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01:06:39,213 --> 01:06:41,773
Speaker 19: family business and it can get you.

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Speaker 2: Through it a bit quicker work every part of it.

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Speaker 2: Do you mind me asking about what area of your

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Speaker 2: family business is in.

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Speaker 16: Wine? Wine culture?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean you're in an incredible

1411
01:06:56,253 --> 01:06:58,453
Speaker 2: position to learn every single part of it if your

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01:06:58,453 --> 01:07:03,013
Speaker 2: family is running that. I mean, you've got experts walking

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01:07:03,053 --> 01:07:05,133
Speaker 2: around that you can you know, you've probably got the

1414
01:07:05,133 --> 01:07:08,533
Speaker 2: best best teachers in the entire world around you to

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01:07:08,613 --> 01:07:09,613
Speaker 2: learn from.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely. I even learned how to clovern shoots, so I

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Speaker 19: mean that was impressive.

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Speaker 2: That's a hell of a skill. What I found an

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01:07:18,853 --> 01:07:22,533
Speaker 2: interesting maw with university. So I did a degree in

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01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:26,853
Speaker 2: did a degree in philosophy and anthropology. But when I

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01:07:26,893 --> 01:07:30,413
Speaker 2: came to write my book, it's a book arguably a

1422
01:07:30,413 --> 01:07:33,213
Speaker 2: lot of it's on philosophy. And I went back to

1423
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Speaker 2: write the book and I thought, I've got a degreeund philosophy.

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01:07:35,013 --> 01:07:37,453
Speaker 2: And I realized, in my entire time at university doing this,

1425
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Speaker 2: I hadn't learned a single freaking thing. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: I must have studied this. And I went back and

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Speaker 2: I was like, I did study all the stuff, but

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Speaker 2: there's something about university where you don't actually learn it.

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Speaker 2: And I think particularly, and this might be different across

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01:07:49,813 --> 01:07:53,013
Speaker 2: other degrees. People can tell me, but philosophy at university

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01:07:53,093 --> 01:07:57,053
Speaker 2: is very involved in semantics, opposed to philosophy being used

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Speaker 2: for how you might want to live your life and

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Speaker 2: actually losing using it for, you know, for a you know,

1434
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:06,693
Speaker 2: some lessons on how you could apply people's thinking into

1435
01:08:07,213 --> 01:08:09,493
Speaker 2: living the good life, if you mean more like a

1436
01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:10,373
Speaker 2: contest of ideas.

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Speaker 4: When you're at university, you get presented with these philosophical

1438
01:08:13,293 --> 01:08:17,773
Speaker 4: arguments to debate and consider, rather than implement them in

1439
01:08:17,813 --> 01:08:18,293
Speaker 4: your own life.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. I think this can be

1441
01:08:20,253 --> 01:08:22,612
Speaker 2: across a lot of different things, and probably the same

1442
01:08:22,653 --> 01:08:25,892
Speaker 2: with mel. You've got these studies, but they aren't actually

1443
01:08:25,893 --> 01:08:31,093
Speaker 2: related in any way to the practical application of the

1444
01:08:31,173 --> 01:08:34,412
Speaker 2: job or in the real world. Yeah, yeah, hey, thank

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01:08:34,412 --> 01:08:36,412
Speaker 2: you so much. Now you go, mal.

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01:08:37,893 --> 01:08:39,492
Speaker 19: I was just going to say, you definitely do learn

1447
01:08:39,532 --> 01:08:42,652
Speaker 19: something you come out of the university. It's not a

1448
01:08:42,692 --> 01:08:44,933
Speaker 19: degree that anyone can obviously give a paper two, but

1449
01:08:44,973 --> 01:08:47,932
Speaker 19: it's definitely you learn how to do your washing, definitely

1450
01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:50,852
Speaker 19: know how to do a yardglass, and definitely know how

1451
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Speaker 19: to relate to.

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01:08:51,732 --> 01:08:56,212
Speaker 4: A It's important life skills. All three of those things.

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01:08:57,612 --> 01:09:01,253
Speaker 2: You learn you learn edwards scrumpy hands and if you're

1454
01:09:01,253 --> 01:09:04,333
Speaker 2: at Target university, I don't mean you learn possuming. Possuming

1455
01:09:04,372 --> 01:09:06,852
Speaker 2: I haven't heard this. Possuming is when you climb up

1456
01:09:06,893 --> 01:09:09,772
Speaker 2: into a tree with your friends and you with a

1457
01:09:09,772 --> 01:09:12,333
Speaker 2: bunch of alcohol and you drink up there until you

1458
01:09:12,412 --> 01:09:15,293
Speaker 2: fall out. All right. This sounds similar to hermit. Did

1459
01:09:15,293 --> 01:09:17,253
Speaker 2: you ever do the hermit? Oh, when you go into

1460
01:09:17,293 --> 01:09:18,093
Speaker 2: your cupboard in your room.

1461
01:09:18,173 --> 01:09:20,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, so everyone goes into one room and just hides

1462
01:09:20,293 --> 01:09:22,933
Speaker 4: themselves away and drinks until you finished the dozen and

1463
01:09:23,013 --> 01:09:25,052
Speaker 4: come out. Crazy times, but good times.

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Speaker 2: It is look, that's well worth in giant student loan

1465
01:09:28,692 --> 01:09:30,972
Speaker 2: you give for it eighteen to three.

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Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

1467
01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:39,372
Speaker 5: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1468
01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:40,133
Speaker 5: used talks.

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Speaker 4: That'd be very good afternoon to you. We are discussing

1470
01:09:42,853 --> 01:09:47,412
Speaker 4: going into the family business or did you listen to

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01:09:47,492 --> 01:09:50,892
Speaker 4: the advice of your parents in terms of which career

1472
01:09:50,973 --> 01:09:53,612
Speaker 4: to go into if they encouraged you into a trade

1473
01:09:54,053 --> 01:09:56,133
Speaker 4: or an apprenticeship. Love to hear from you. On eight

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01:09:56,253 --> 01:09:57,012
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten.

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Speaker 2: Eighty, John says, you're right to be skeptical of you

1476
01:10:00,692 --> 01:10:04,093
Speaker 2: need degrees. My daughter has a PhD in micro The

1477
01:10:04,173 --> 01:10:06,853
Speaker 2: further up the education ladder, the narrow the job opportunities

1478
01:10:06,853 --> 01:10:09,492
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. For her there are two government research

1479
01:10:09,532 --> 01:10:14,293
Speaker 2: places or go tech more micro students at a UNI.

1480
01:10:15,013 --> 01:10:17,772
Speaker 2: Sadly she works and is flourishing offshore and won't be back.

1481
01:10:17,853 --> 01:10:21,333
Speaker 2: She's now applying for citizenship in her new country. Very

1482
01:10:21,333 --> 01:10:21,812
Speaker 2: good point.

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01:10:21,893 --> 01:10:24,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, hijie. How are you this afternoon?

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01:10:25,772 --> 01:10:28,173
Speaker 17: Hey good man, very good, thank you, good to chat.

1485
01:10:28,213 --> 01:10:31,093
Speaker 4: So what's your story? Did you get encouraged to pick

1486
01:10:31,093 --> 01:10:32,292
Speaker 4: a particular career.

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01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:34,492
Speaker 17: Path oh, yeah, very much.

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01:10:34,532 --> 01:10:34,652
Speaker 13: So.

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Speaker 17: My dad was a class for tyler in Fakatani back

1490
01:10:39,213 --> 01:10:41,492
Speaker 17: in the day. Yep, he'd had his own business for

1491
01:10:41,572 --> 01:10:45,812
Speaker 17: quite a few years and my older brother myself got

1492
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:50,773
Speaker 17: dragged to work in school holidays, which I hated, but

1493
01:10:50,772 --> 01:10:56,572
Speaker 17: it certainly puts that work ethic into my brain. When

1494
01:10:56,612 --> 01:10:59,572
Speaker 17: I finally left school, I wasn't doing so well at school,

1495
01:10:59,652 --> 01:11:01,932
Speaker 17: but like match now it was over. It wasn't into

1496
01:11:02,053 --> 01:11:05,293
Speaker 17: doing exams or anything. So I left the beginning of

1497
01:11:05,412 --> 01:11:10,533
Speaker 17: fifth form. This is in nineteen eighty. Partly my teachers

1498
01:11:10,572 --> 01:11:13,412
Speaker 17: were saying, well, you're probably not going to do so well,

1499
01:11:13,492 --> 01:11:15,492
Speaker 17: so if you can find a job, so I did.

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01:11:15,612 --> 01:11:18,293
Speaker 17: I took that opportunity. And I didn't want to be

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01:11:18,812 --> 01:11:22,253
Speaker 17: a class retiler with my dad because he treated me

1502
01:11:23,452 --> 01:11:25,372
Speaker 17: like his son at work, if you know what I mean.

1503
01:11:26,053 --> 01:11:28,412
Speaker 17: It's got all the dirty job through this thing. But

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01:11:28,452 --> 01:11:31,772
Speaker 17: I really want to be a carpenter. So I got

1505
01:11:31,812 --> 01:11:35,932
Speaker 17: myself an apprenticeship as a joiner. It's a joiner, so

1506
01:11:37,173 --> 01:11:40,052
Speaker 17: that really set me up for the rest of my life. Actually,

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01:11:40,213 --> 01:11:44,972
Speaker 17: it's sort of only taken me three years to finish

1508
01:11:45,013 --> 01:11:49,532
Speaker 17: my apprenticeship, but it's me nearly four because halfway through

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01:11:49,612 --> 01:11:54,093
Speaker 17: I was a bit of a free spirits and I

1510
01:11:54,173 --> 01:11:57,053
Speaker 17: was going first thing instead of going to work. But

1511
01:11:57,572 --> 01:12:00,213
Speaker 17: my dad sat me down, he goes, you need to

1512
01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:04,012
Speaker 17: finish this, you need to get your trade. So I did,

1513
01:12:04,532 --> 01:12:09,213
Speaker 17: and I'm still working in that trade today.

1514
01:12:09,692 --> 01:12:17,772
Speaker 2: Dead. Fantastic on your dad, except for the bit where

1515
01:12:17,772 --> 01:12:19,412
Speaker 2: he's making you do all the hard stuff because you

1516
01:12:19,412 --> 01:12:20,812
Speaker 2: were a son and didn't want to seem.

1517
01:12:20,572 --> 01:12:20,812
Speaker 14: To be.

1518
01:12:22,293 --> 01:12:23,652
Speaker 2: That's how it works.

1519
01:12:23,772 --> 01:12:26,013
Speaker 4: And if you're the laborer and the son of the

1520
01:12:26,053 --> 01:12:28,213
Speaker 4: business owner, you you did hard raft.

1521
01:12:29,053 --> 01:12:32,852
Speaker 17: Absolutely absolutely. But my older brother, you know, he's a

1522
01:12:32,853 --> 01:12:34,612
Speaker 17: couple of a couple of years old and me, he

1523
01:12:34,732 --> 01:12:39,053
Speaker 17: ended up taking over dad's business and dead retired and

1524
01:12:40,213 --> 01:12:43,452
Speaker 17: did very well out of it himself and ended up

1525
01:12:43,492 --> 01:12:47,853
Speaker 17: employing quite a few boys. Especially after the Inscom earthquake,

1526
01:12:48,412 --> 01:12:51,772
Speaker 17: he suddenly had to employ quite a few stuff. You

1527
01:12:51,772 --> 01:12:54,652
Speaker 17: had two years work booked up with all the cracks

1528
01:12:54,692 --> 01:12:57,292
Speaker 17: on the walls. Imagine.

1529
01:12:57,732 --> 01:12:58,812
Speaker 2: Oh, well, good on your dad.

1530
01:12:59,013 --> 01:12:59,213
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1531
01:12:59,293 --> 01:13:01,173
Speaker 2: I mean that is the thing though about apprenticeships. They

1532
01:13:01,173 --> 01:13:03,772
Speaker 2: can drift and drift and drift, can't they Because because

1533
01:13:03,812 --> 01:13:05,532
Speaker 2: you're working and then you want to live, you of

1534
01:13:05,532 --> 01:13:08,852
Speaker 2: your life and you and your share and doing the

1535
01:13:08,853 --> 01:13:11,053
Speaker 2: extra stuff is just hard to get you.

1536
01:13:11,293 --> 01:13:11,492
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1537
01:13:11,572 --> 01:13:12,572
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah.

1538
01:13:12,812 --> 01:13:15,532
Speaker 17: At the time, you know, a good friend here's going

1539
01:13:15,652 --> 01:13:18,973
Speaker 17: on on a soe and I was so keen to

1540
01:13:18,973 --> 01:13:21,253
Speaker 17: go with him. But I was halfway through my apprenticeship.

1541
01:13:21,253 --> 01:13:23,173
Speaker 17: And that's when Dad sat me down and us, look,

1542
01:13:23,213 --> 01:13:26,213
Speaker 17: if you do that, you're going to come back with

1543
01:13:26,572 --> 01:13:30,093
Speaker 17: to no job. Stick it out for another year or two.

1544
01:13:30,293 --> 01:13:32,852
Speaker 17: You've got to be able to work for whoever you want.

1545
01:13:33,053 --> 01:13:36,972
Speaker 17: That's true because exactly you know, and just sticking out

1546
01:13:37,013 --> 01:13:43,972
Speaker 17: that apprenticeship and finishing its future employees, employers, I should say,

1547
01:13:44,053 --> 01:13:46,772
Speaker 17: really like that. They go, Okay, this person stuck at

1548
01:13:46,772 --> 01:13:53,213
Speaker 17: their job for three or four years. Difference you did you.

1549
01:13:53,572 --> 01:13:55,972
Speaker 4: Did you think about setting up your own own business

1550
01:13:55,973 --> 01:13:56,892
Speaker 4: with joinery hijik?

1551
01:13:57,973 --> 01:13:58,173
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1552
01:13:58,213 --> 01:14:01,012
Speaker 17: Yeah, Actually I got out of the factory, the old

1553
01:14:01,213 --> 01:14:04,013
Speaker 17: the dust, and that didn't agree with me, especially with

1554
01:14:04,213 --> 01:14:07,213
Speaker 17: the building of the kitchen. So now the NDS it's

1555
01:14:07,253 --> 01:14:11,932
Speaker 17: pretty bad on the old lad. But I've been self

1556
01:14:11,973 --> 01:14:14,173
Speaker 17: employed on and off for a number of years now,

1557
01:14:14,293 --> 01:14:18,572
Speaker 17: mostly doing maintenance work. So I've worked with carpenters, I've

1558
01:14:18,612 --> 01:14:22,212
Speaker 17: worked on building high rises and all sorts of different

1559
01:14:22,253 --> 01:14:26,732
Speaker 17: aspects of the timber trades, but I've decided that the

1560
01:14:26,893 --> 01:14:29,972
Speaker 17: maintenance is the one for me. There's small, small jobs

1561
01:14:30,013 --> 01:14:32,612
Speaker 17: in an ounce in a day or less. I like

1562
01:14:32,652 --> 01:14:36,532
Speaker 17: the variety, anything from fixing a door that's fallen off

1563
01:14:36,532 --> 01:14:39,572
Speaker 17: as cinders to putting a painting on the wall or

1564
01:14:39,572 --> 01:14:41,572
Speaker 17: whatever people want. You know a lot of There's so

1565
01:14:41,652 --> 01:14:44,253
Speaker 17: many people out there, either it's got that much money

1566
01:14:44,253 --> 01:14:45,492
Speaker 17: that they don't want to do it. In South they

1567
01:14:45,492 --> 01:14:48,532
Speaker 17: don't want to hang that picture, or a retired person

1568
01:14:48,572 --> 01:14:52,492
Speaker 17: who's outly and their draws not working properly. Well, that's

1569
01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,852
Speaker 17: where I come in. I can easily fix that for them.

1570
01:14:55,612 --> 01:14:57,652
Speaker 17: So there's plenty of work out there for that time.

1571
01:14:57,893 --> 01:14:58,173
Speaker 2: Love it.

1572
01:14:58,973 --> 01:15:01,013
Speaker 4: You'd be a popular man in the family, hygie with

1573
01:15:01,013 --> 01:15:01,612
Speaker 4: those skills.

1574
01:15:03,133 --> 01:15:03,333
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1575
01:15:03,412 --> 01:15:06,892
Speaker 17: Well, Mum and dad don't around anymore, and my brothers

1576
01:15:06,973 --> 01:15:10,732
Speaker 17: moved to Australia. And I've got a sister in christ

1577
01:15:10,853 --> 01:15:13,492
Speaker 17: Church and whenever I visit, she's got quite a big list.

1578
01:15:14,253 --> 01:15:16,372
Speaker 2: Yea bet she does. Good on your mate and good

1579
01:15:16,412 --> 01:15:16,932
Speaker 2: on your dad.

1580
01:15:17,053 --> 01:15:17,253
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1581
01:15:17,293 --> 01:15:21,213
Speaker 2: Absolutely, finish the finish that apprenticeship. If you're on it,

1582
01:15:21,333 --> 01:15:23,652
Speaker 2: just go hard and get it done. Finish the job

1583
01:15:23,692 --> 01:15:26,492
Speaker 2: you started. I get involved in the Apprentice of the

1584
01:15:26,572 --> 01:15:29,293
Speaker 2: Year awards every year, and there's always stories of people

1585
01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:30,933
Speaker 2: that just let it drift, and then you've got the

1586
01:15:30,933 --> 01:15:32,612
Speaker 2: ones that just get it done and you just move

1587
01:15:32,652 --> 01:15:34,452
Speaker 2: on to that other level. Yeah, exactly. Oh, e one

1588
01:15:34,532 --> 01:15:36,173
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

1589
01:15:36,213 --> 01:15:38,612
Speaker 4: It is nine to three. Back very shortly here on

1590
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:39,333
Speaker 4: News TALKSB.

1591
01:15:40,853 --> 01:15:43,253
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1592
01:15:43,293 --> 01:15:48,133
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

1593
01:15:48,293 --> 01:15:49,093
Speaker 2: News Talks AB.

1594
01:15:49,293 --> 01:15:51,372
Speaker 4: Very good afternoon to you were talking about going into

1595
01:15:51,452 --> 01:15:52,892
Speaker 4: the family business.

1596
01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:55,572
Speaker 2: Some great techs have come through my family business situation.

1597
01:15:55,612 --> 01:15:58,173
Speaker 2: As my father died suddenly, none of my siblings wanted

1598
01:15:58,173 --> 01:16:00,333
Speaker 2: to step up. One is in the same ministry. I

1599
01:16:00,452 --> 01:16:02,572
Speaker 2: ended up having to become director. I have no experience

1600
01:16:02,612 --> 01:16:05,293
Speaker 2: in the industry and I'm trying to complete the ongoing

1601
01:16:05,333 --> 01:16:09,412
Speaker 2: works from another city. Yeah, that sounds stressful work in

1602
01:16:09,452 --> 01:16:12,013
Speaker 2: a family business with parents and brother have worked in

1603
01:16:12,053 --> 01:16:15,852
Speaker 2: it since school holidays, from floor sweeper to labor to drive, etc.

1604
01:16:16,652 --> 01:16:20,732
Speaker 2: Now management twenty four years since sixteen, full time. Great

1605
01:16:20,812 --> 01:16:24,572
Speaker 2: challenges and opportunities, but what could have been very successful business,

1606
01:16:24,572 --> 01:16:28,012
Speaker 2: so very comfortable, but I encourage kids to pursue other

1607
01:16:28,053 --> 01:16:31,013
Speaker 2: options as we cannot bring them to the work for

1608
01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:35,492
Speaker 2: h andsbs that is today, and we could go to

1609
01:16:35,612 --> 01:16:39,772
Speaker 2: work with our father suffered the boss's son issues of

1610
01:16:39,812 --> 01:16:42,892
Speaker 2: the time where PC was not a thing, but survived.

1611
01:16:43,333 --> 01:16:46,532
Speaker 2: Kids today cannot see so many jobs as cannot go

1612
01:16:46,572 --> 01:16:47,772
Speaker 2: to work in the holidays, etc.

1613
01:16:48,133 --> 01:16:50,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this text, guys, I'm a twenty five year

1614
01:16:50,933 --> 01:16:52,933
Speaker 4: old male, have been working at my father's business for

1615
01:16:52,973 --> 01:16:55,412
Speaker 4: the last five years. I've wanted to leave, but the

1616
01:16:55,452 --> 01:16:58,452
Speaker 4: business would fail if I do, which would leave my

1617
01:16:58,532 --> 01:16:59,773
Speaker 4: parents in a bad situation.

1618
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:02,492
Speaker 2: So that's tough, isn't it. Trapped? Yeah?

1619
01:17:02,532 --> 01:17:03,133
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

1620
01:17:03,333 --> 01:17:07,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you are emotionally connected to the job.

1621
01:17:07,572 --> 01:17:09,492
Speaker 2: I mean we're all the most connected to a job,

1622
01:17:09,492 --> 01:17:11,732
Speaker 2: but you know, you emotionally connected on a family DeVault

1623
01:17:11,853 --> 01:17:17,532
Speaker 2: job harder to make ruthless decisions. Joe, your thoughts. You

1624
01:17:17,572 --> 01:17:19,412
Speaker 2: didn't you didn't follow the family business.

1625
01:17:20,572 --> 01:17:21,333
Speaker 16: No, I didn't.

1626
01:17:21,612 --> 01:17:25,693
Speaker 21: My father was Italian and he was in the restaurant business.

1627
01:17:25,772 --> 01:17:30,812
Speaker 21: We worked well, We volunteered as children in the business

1628
01:17:31,133 --> 01:17:35,253
Speaker 21: and I was in Europe though, and we none of

1629
01:17:35,293 --> 01:17:40,412
Speaker 21: us liked it. We founded two the clients who are

1630
01:17:40,412 --> 01:17:44,772
Speaker 21: always demanding and annoying and stressful, and so we didn't

1631
01:17:44,893 --> 01:17:49,333
Speaker 21: like it. However, I decided to against my parents will

1632
01:17:49,812 --> 01:17:54,533
Speaker 21: to go into studies, university studies, and I have to disagree.

1633
01:17:54,612 --> 01:17:58,652
Speaker 21: So I didn't study philosophy and anthropology. I did read

1634
01:17:58,692 --> 01:18:01,733
Speaker 21: a lot of books on that, but I have to disagree.

1635
01:18:01,853 --> 01:18:07,132
Speaker 21: For me, philosophy anthropology are one of the best things

1636
01:18:07,173 --> 01:18:11,572
Speaker 21: one can are in a university because it opens the

1637
01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:17,333
Speaker 21: mind and frankly it's what's needed, especially nowadays.

1638
01:18:17,692 --> 01:18:19,372
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for so much for that, Joe. Yeah,

1639
01:18:19,372 --> 01:18:21,452
Speaker 2: I mean I studied them at university. But I guess

1640
01:18:21,492 --> 01:18:25,932
Speaker 2: my point, Joe, was that I didn't learn anything until

1641
01:18:25,973 --> 01:18:29,732
Speaker 2: I went back and read philosophy and anthropology on my

1642
01:18:29,772 --> 01:18:32,133
Speaker 2: own time, and then I absolutely learned a lot. But

1643
01:18:32,173 --> 01:18:34,652
Speaker 2: you might be right that the base might have been there. Hey, Joe,

1644
01:18:34,732 --> 01:18:37,852
Speaker 2: quickly when you say volunteered in the restaurant, volunteered for

1645
01:18:37,893 --> 01:18:39,732
Speaker 2: your parents, or forced to work in there.

1646
01:18:40,772 --> 01:18:42,213
Speaker 8: No, we were forced to work.

1647
01:18:43,293 --> 01:18:48,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, volunteering in their parents restaurant. But it doesn't happen.

1648
01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:49,892
Speaker 2: It's a family slave labor. Yeah.

1649
01:18:49,973 --> 01:18:52,253
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you very much to everyone who phoned and

1650
01:18:52,452 --> 01:18:56,652
Speaker 4: text on that discussion. Coming up New Zealander of the Week.

1651
01:18:57,452 --> 01:19:00,412
Speaker 4: Well it be News and Sport coming up.

1652
01:19:02,452 --> 01:19:06,973
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1653
01:19:07,013 --> 01:19:10,333
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk.

1654
01:19:10,213 --> 01:19:15,213
Speaker 4: Zebby good afternoon to you, welcome back into the show.

1655
01:19:15,372 --> 01:19:19,093
Speaker 4: Very shortly, we want to talk about collections that turn

1656
01:19:19,293 --> 01:19:22,253
Speaker 4: into and obsession. A woman in Australia. She has now

1657
01:19:22,253 --> 01:19:26,732
Speaker 4: got the Keenness World Record for the largest Minion memorabilia collection.

1658
01:19:26,893 --> 01:19:31,373
Speaker 4: Pretty insane really, but right now it is seven past three.

1659
01:19:31,732 --> 01:19:34,293
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on zeb we

1660
01:19:34,372 --> 01:19:35,852
Speaker 2: name the New Zealander of the Week in honor that

1661
01:19:35,933 --> 01:19:38,013
Speaker 2: we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who's had

1662
01:19:38,013 --> 01:19:41,612
Speaker 2: an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over

1663
01:19:41,612 --> 01:19:44,173
Speaker 2: the previous week. As always, there'll be three nominees but

1664
01:19:44,293 --> 01:19:46,933
Speaker 2: only one winner. So without further ado, the nominees for

1665
01:19:47,013 --> 01:19:49,652
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the Week. AH

1666
01:19:50,093 --> 01:19:53,213
Speaker 2: Nominee one also gets the Stowaway Award. This week. Range

1667
01:19:53,253 --> 01:19:55,253
Speaker 2: of the Wicker jumped in the back of a tourist

1668
01:19:55,253 --> 01:19:57,293
Speaker 2: camp of van and travel from the West Coast to

1669
01:19:57,333 --> 01:19:59,932
Speaker 2: christ Church over the Alps. He was rumbled on Casual

1670
01:19:59,973 --> 01:20:02,253
Speaker 2: Street and a few days later was returned home safe

1671
01:20:02,253 --> 01:20:04,572
Speaker 2: and sound. And if he hadn't crapped and pistol over

1672
01:20:04,612 --> 01:20:06,972
Speaker 2: the seats, he might have won New Zealand of the Week.

1673
01:20:07,093 --> 01:20:10,492
Speaker 2: But he still gets a nom Ranger the Wicker bless

1674
01:20:10,572 --> 01:20:13,652
Speaker 2: you for your epic illegal fecal journey across the Alps.

1675
01:20:13,772 --> 01:20:16,093
Speaker 2: You are nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

1676
01:20:17,893 --> 01:20:18,053
Speaker 12: Now.

1677
01:20:18,093 --> 01:20:20,253
Speaker 2: Nominee two also gets the Let's All tas of the

1678
01:20:20,293 --> 01:20:23,412
Speaker 2: Tall Poppy Award. This week, an ex prime minister appeared

1679
01:20:23,412 --> 01:20:25,053
Speaker 2: on this very radio station to say he thought New

1680
01:20:25,093 --> 01:20:27,612
Speaker 2: Zealand had a lot to feel positive about that with

1681
01:20:27,692 --> 01:20:30,492
Speaker 2: the right attitude, our best is still ahead of us.

1682
01:20:30,532 --> 01:20:32,772
Speaker 2: In response, three hundred and twenty four people texted Matton

1683
01:20:32,772 --> 01:20:34,892
Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons to tell him to shut up because he

1684
01:20:34,973 --> 01:20:36,852
Speaker 2: is rich and according to them, we shouldn't listen to

1685
01:20:36,853 --> 01:20:40,572
Speaker 2: successful self made people for proving that the great KeyWe

1686
01:20:40,652 --> 01:20:43,732
Speaker 2: knocking machine is still operational. In twenty twenty five, Sir

1687
01:20:43,812 --> 01:20:47,213
Speaker 2: John Key, you are nominated for Matton Tyler Afternoon's New

1688
01:20:47,293 --> 01:20:51,772
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week. Run shut up, you successful bastard.

1689
01:20:51,893 --> 01:20:54,053
Speaker 2: But there could be only one New Zealand of the

1690
01:20:54,093 --> 01:20:56,133
Speaker 2: Week and the winner also gets the Smoke Him if

1691
01:20:56,173 --> 01:20:59,532
Speaker 2: you've got him award. The White Smokers billowing out of

1692
01:20:59,572 --> 01:21:02,652
Speaker 2: the Sistine Chapel and Leo the fourteenth is the new Pope.

1693
01:21:02,933 --> 01:21:05,452
Speaker 2: And there's even a local connection. Our boy from Wellington,

1694
01:21:05,492 --> 01:21:08,772
Speaker 2: Cardinal John Dyue, was over there voting intently, had a

1695
01:21:08,853 --> 01:21:11,133
Speaker 2: zero point seventy five percent chance of getting the job.

1696
01:21:11,213 --> 01:21:13,253
Speaker 2: He didn't, but he's still got to bang around the

1697
01:21:13,293 --> 01:21:16,532
Speaker 2: conclave at an historic time, which is pretty cool for

1698
01:21:16,572 --> 01:21:19,452
Speaker 2: a Kiwi. So congratulations to Cardinal John Jue and New

1699
01:21:19,532 --> 01:21:22,293
Speaker 2: Zealand's four hundred and fifty thousand Catholics. You have a

1700
01:21:22,333 --> 01:21:25,573
Speaker 2: new Pope with a lovely popy face on the staff celebration.

1701
01:21:25,933 --> 01:21:29,612
Speaker 2: You are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of

1702
01:21:29,652 --> 01:21:35,132
Speaker 2: the Week. I should have known Cardinal John ju wouldn't

1703
01:21:35,173 --> 01:21:39,213
Speaker 2: get the job, so we're never going to make a

1704
01:21:39,293 --> 01:21:48,493
Speaker 2: Jew pope. Congratulations all New Catholics on your day of celebration.

1705
01:21:57,532 --> 01:22:00,173
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor who.

1706
01:22:00,492 --> 01:22:04,133
Speaker 4: Another fantastic winner of New Zealander of the Week this week.

1707
01:22:04,732 --> 01:22:07,933
Speaker 4: Fantastic right, So coming up very shortly, let's have a

1708
01:22:08,013 --> 01:22:12,013
Speaker 4: chat about your collections that may have turned into a

1709
01:22:12,133 --> 01:22:15,052
Speaker 4: bit of an obsession. So this woman, as we mentioned,

1710
01:22:15,492 --> 01:22:18,892
Speaker 4: she's over in Australia and she has got the Kinness

1711
01:22:18,893 --> 01:22:21,892
Speaker 4: World Record for the largest minion memorabilia, which is crazy.

1712
01:22:21,933 --> 01:22:23,972
Speaker 4: I mean, that's disappointing from Guinness World Records.

1713
01:22:24,013 --> 01:22:29,892
Speaker 2: Shameful, shameful, shameful to be collecting minions. And look, is

1714
01:22:29,893 --> 01:22:31,572
Speaker 2: that what we need to do? Do we need to

1715
01:22:31,612 --> 01:22:33,772
Speaker 2: shame people for collecting things more? And do you want

1716
01:22:33,772 --> 01:22:36,852
Speaker 2: to do that? Well, her husband is collecting stupid stuff,

1717
01:22:36,973 --> 01:22:39,612
Speaker 2: or your wife is collecting stupid stuff, or your friends

1718
01:22:39,612 --> 01:22:42,052
Speaker 2: are collecting stupid stuff. I wait, undred eighty ten eighty

1719
01:22:42,093 --> 01:22:43,973
Speaker 2: is it time to shame them? Because what do we

1720
01:22:44,013 --> 01:22:49,333
Speaker 2: get out of what do we get out of collecting things? Well?

1721
01:22:49,452 --> 01:22:51,772
Speaker 4: I mean funny that you mentioned the shaming aspect, Matt,

1722
01:22:51,812 --> 01:22:56,253
Speaker 4: because you're quite the collector, and I understand that maybe

1723
01:22:56,253 --> 01:22:58,092
Speaker 4: there has been a little bit of shaming in your household.

1724
01:22:58,173 --> 01:22:58,452
Speaker 17: There is.

1725
01:22:58,532 --> 01:23:01,173
Speaker 2: I'm being shamed for my collecting and I appreciate it. Yeah,

1726
01:23:01,213 --> 01:23:05,012
Speaker 2: I was collecting it. Sports hat I've got about I've

1727
01:23:05,013 --> 01:23:08,852
Speaker 2: got so many. I've probably got fifty Dodgers hat, I've

1728
01:23:08,893 --> 01:23:11,532
Speaker 2: got hundreds and hundreds of caps. I just if I'm

1729
01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:14,333
Speaker 2: watching any kind of sporting fixture and the team I'm

1730
01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:16,972
Speaker 2: sporting does well. Before I know it, I'm online, I'm

1731
01:23:17,053 --> 01:23:19,253
Speaker 2: ordering the hat, I forget about it, and then the

1732
01:23:19,293 --> 01:23:21,933
Speaker 2: little boxes arrive with three hats at the door, and

1733
01:23:21,973 --> 01:23:23,892
Speaker 2: then I have to sneak them in and hide them.

1734
01:23:24,412 --> 01:23:26,812
Speaker 2: There's a whole cupboard full of hats. It's an absolute disaster.

1735
01:23:26,893 --> 01:23:28,932
Speaker 2: I think I deserve to be shamed for my collection.

1736
01:23:29,133 --> 01:23:32,452
Speaker 2: You do. And recently my lovely partner Tracy brought me

1737
01:23:32,532 --> 01:23:38,693
Speaker 2: a turntable reconditioned nineteen seventy nine technics. It's absolutely beautiful.

1738
01:23:39,772 --> 01:23:41,692
Speaker 2: When I went into the good people at av World

1739
01:23:41,772 --> 01:23:45,452
Speaker 2: to get the amp and such sortid to connect with

1740
01:23:45,452 --> 01:23:50,372
Speaker 2: my son speakers with the digitizer of the hub, they

1741
01:23:50,412 --> 01:23:53,093
Speaker 2: said to me, look, you are running a Ferrari and

1742
01:23:53,133 --> 01:23:55,772
Speaker 2: second gear with these speakers, which I took as a

1743
01:23:55,772 --> 01:23:58,213
Speaker 2: massive compliment. You want to hear. But as a result

1744
01:23:58,253 --> 01:24:01,692
Speaker 2: of back into Vinyl, I've just got boxes of little

1745
01:24:02,333 --> 01:24:05,932
Speaker 2: pizza boxes. They look like arriving every day with Vinyl

1746
01:24:05,973 --> 01:24:07,372
Speaker 2: in it, and I'm back collecting that. I need to

1747
01:24:07,372 --> 01:24:10,052
Speaker 2: be shamed colllectand because I'll just collect and collecting, collect

1748
01:24:10,093 --> 01:24:11,732
Speaker 2: and collect, and it's like being an octopus. You know,

1749
01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:15,052
Speaker 2: octopuses collect shiny things. You're a kia.

1750
01:24:15,213 --> 01:24:16,253
Speaker 4: You're like a little magpie.

1751
01:24:16,293 --> 01:24:18,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little magpie. And it's not right. So

1752
01:24:19,133 --> 01:24:21,492
Speaker 2: this minion woman, we shouldn't be celebrating her. We should

1753
01:24:21,492 --> 01:24:24,333
Speaker 2: be shaming her for a stupid one thousand minions and

1754
01:24:24,333 --> 01:24:25,973
Speaker 2: give us a book of records. Why are they what

1755
01:24:26,013 --> 01:24:27,452
Speaker 2: does it need to be a record of minions?

1756
01:24:27,452 --> 01:24:29,732
Speaker 4: Why are they encouraging this? I mean it's almost you

1757
01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:32,652
Speaker 4: need an ultimatum mat that for every vinyl you get,

1758
01:24:32,652 --> 01:24:33,253
Speaker 4: you've got to give.

1759
01:24:33,213 --> 01:24:36,852
Speaker 2: Up a hat. How would you feel about that? Well, yeah, exactly,

1760
01:24:37,053 --> 01:24:39,333
Speaker 2: but no, but there's a one in one out roll

1761
01:24:39,412 --> 01:24:42,173
Speaker 2: in my house now in my hat. That's why I

1762
01:24:42,173 --> 01:24:43,973
Speaker 2: think I've moved on to the records. Yeah, because you

1763
01:24:44,013 --> 01:24:46,532
Speaker 2: can store more of them well without away one line out.

1764
01:24:46,652 --> 01:24:48,532
Speaker 2: And so every time I get a new hat now

1765
01:24:48,572 --> 01:24:50,173
Speaker 2: I have to painfully get rid of one, which just

1766
01:24:50,213 --> 01:24:50,893
Speaker 2: stop me ordering it.

1767
01:24:51,093 --> 01:24:53,532
Speaker 4: We've done over one hundred and twenty shows and I

1768
01:24:53,612 --> 01:24:55,772
Speaker 4: haven't seen the same hat twice.

1769
01:24:55,893 --> 01:24:57,093
Speaker 2: It's always a different hat.

1770
01:24:57,213 --> 01:24:58,892
Speaker 4: So you've got more than one hundred and twenty hats

1771
01:24:58,893 --> 01:25:01,892
Speaker 4: at least oh one hundred eighty ten eighty love to

1772
01:25:01,933 --> 01:25:05,053
Speaker 4: hear about your collections that you've got and the obsessions

1773
01:25:05,093 --> 01:25:08,173
Speaker 4: that you've got. But more importantly, if there is someone

1774
01:25:08,173 --> 01:25:10,173
Speaker 4: in your household that you just want to shame a

1775
01:25:10,173 --> 01:25:11,932
Speaker 4: little bit for being a little bit over the top

1776
01:25:11,973 --> 01:25:13,333
Speaker 4: and crazy, give us a buzz.

1777
01:25:13,532 --> 01:25:16,692
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, my husband has over two five hundred VW

1778
01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:18,293
Speaker 2: models on display in our garret.

1779
01:25:18,412 --> 01:25:23,892
Speaker 4: Wow, that is slightly impressive but also obsessive. Oh eight

1780
01:25:23,973 --> 01:25:26,053
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It

1781
01:25:26,133 --> 01:25:30,492
Speaker 4: is thirteen past three, good afternoon, and we're talking about

1782
01:25:30,732 --> 01:25:34,812
Speaker 4: collections that verge on to obsessions. This is after an

1783
01:25:34,853 --> 01:25:38,293
Speaker 4: Australian woman she has been awarded the Guinness World Record

1784
01:25:38,492 --> 01:25:44,053
Speaker 4: for the largest Minion memorabilia collection. So she reached down

1785
01:25:44,213 --> 01:25:47,053
Speaker 4: to the Guinness World Record and said, I don't think

1786
01:25:47,093 --> 01:25:50,692
Speaker 4: anyone's got more Minion crap than me, And they came

1787
01:25:50,732 --> 01:25:52,492
Speaker 4: around and said, yeah, you're quite right, we're going to

1788
01:25:52,492 --> 01:25:54,093
Speaker 4: give you the Guinness World Record for that.

1789
01:25:54,372 --> 01:26:00,172
Speaker 2: Is collecting things unhealthy. As the Buddha said, joy comes

1790
01:26:00,213 --> 01:26:03,293
Speaker 2: not through possessions or ownership, both through a wise and

1791
01:26:03,372 --> 01:26:06,612
Speaker 2: loving heart. So you know, vandetha gut mah. He knows

1792
01:26:06,652 --> 01:26:09,893
Speaker 2: what he was talking about. Come through positions, the positions

1793
01:26:09,933 --> 01:26:12,253
Speaker 2: own you. Yeah, you know, and then you've got to

1794
01:26:12,293 --> 01:26:14,333
Speaker 2: find places, and you've gotta have arguments with your partner

1795
01:26:14,333 --> 01:26:17,772
Speaker 2: about them. Why don't you listen to the boodom this

1796
01:26:17,893 --> 01:26:20,852
Speaker 2: Texas says. My wife colicks those humiliating teaspoons with tourist

1797
01:26:20,893 --> 01:26:22,932
Speaker 2: spots and royal family members on the top of them.

1798
01:26:22,973 --> 01:26:24,692
Speaker 2: I refuse to even look at them. She must have

1799
01:26:24,772 --> 01:26:27,293
Speaker 2: over a thousand. I was thinking of faking a burglary

1800
01:26:27,293 --> 01:26:29,293
Speaker 2: to get rid of them, but then she just bankrupt

1801
01:26:29,333 --> 01:26:33,412
Speaker 2: us getting more. My husband collects fishing magazine, hundreds and

1802
01:26:33,492 --> 01:26:36,452
Speaker 2: hundreds of them. They're all the same. What's the point. Well,

1803
01:26:36,492 --> 01:26:38,572
Speaker 2: you know, there's different kinds of magazines. It could be collecting,

1804
01:26:38,612 --> 01:26:40,452
Speaker 2: so you know, thank you, Like he stars, it's just

1805
01:26:40,492 --> 01:26:41,933
Speaker 2: fishing magazines.

1806
01:26:41,612 --> 01:26:44,612
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Abel, Good afternoon to you.

1807
01:26:45,652 --> 01:26:46,732
Speaker 8: Oh hi guys, there you go.

1808
01:26:47,372 --> 01:26:49,133
Speaker 4: Great to chat with you. So tell us what have

1809
01:26:49,173 --> 01:26:50,253
Speaker 4: you got? This is your collection?

1810
01:26:51,652 --> 01:26:53,933
Speaker 8: Yes, it's a game called Warhammer.

1811
01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:57,013
Speaker 2: There's a few different Yeah, my kids are into this.

1812
01:26:58,173 --> 01:27:01,213
Speaker 8: Yeah. I've got the old school sort of kind of

1813
01:27:01,253 --> 01:27:04,813
Speaker 8: Lord of the Ring style, things like elves and dragons

1814
01:27:04,893 --> 01:27:09,093
Speaker 8: and monsters and things like that. And then I've got

1815
01:27:09,093 --> 01:27:11,532
Speaker 8: some of the more so fire ones, which is the

1816
01:27:11,612 --> 01:27:15,333
Speaker 8: kind of guys in space with guns and yep, things

1817
01:27:15,412 --> 01:27:16,053
Speaker 8: like that as well.

1818
01:27:16,933 --> 01:27:20,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty cool. Are you. Are you playing playing

1819
01:27:20,732 --> 01:27:24,093
Speaker 2: the Warhammer game with the ruler and such or is

1820
01:27:24,133 --> 01:27:25,893
Speaker 2: it just just collecting them?

1821
01:27:26,572 --> 01:27:31,692
Speaker 8: No dice rulers? Yeah, things like that. You get ten

1822
01:27:31,772 --> 01:27:35,372
Speaker 8: plates and stuff when you have big explosions and things

1823
01:27:35,412 --> 01:27:35,772
Speaker 8: like that.

1824
01:27:36,572 --> 01:27:39,092
Speaker 2: I look, I'm going to support you on this Warhammer

1825
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:41,333
Speaker 2: collecting because I think they're very cool. When my kids

1826
01:27:41,333 --> 01:27:43,173
Speaker 2: got into them, I liked it because they'd be in

1827
01:27:43,213 --> 01:27:46,253
Speaker 2: their rooms under the under the big their lamps, painting

1828
01:27:46,333 --> 01:27:49,892
Speaker 2: up the figures, and it seemed quite creative. It's not

1829
01:27:49,933 --> 01:27:53,133
Speaker 2: a passive. It's not a passive collection because you know

1830
01:27:53,213 --> 01:27:55,852
Speaker 2: you're painting them. You're painting yours up. Are you able?

1831
01:27:56,812 --> 01:27:57,012
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1832
01:27:57,093 --> 01:27:59,412
Speaker 8: Yeah, you paint the mark, you make, you make the

1833
01:27:59,532 --> 01:28:03,213
Speaker 8: terrain and the scenery, you write stories about the characters

1834
01:28:03,293 --> 01:28:04,973
Speaker 8: and things like that. It's kind of ye.

1835
01:28:05,133 --> 01:28:07,892
Speaker 2: See, I think this is cool because it's creative, but

1836
01:28:07,973 --> 01:28:11,173
Speaker 2: also you're using them to compete, you're playing a game

1837
01:28:11,213 --> 01:28:13,932
Speaker 2: with them. It's not just collecting things. Because you've got

1838
01:28:13,933 --> 01:28:15,972
Speaker 2: a weird obsession, and then hiding them with the garage

1839
01:28:15,973 --> 01:28:18,412
Speaker 2: because you can't stop, like some kind of octopus, taking

1840
01:28:18,412 --> 01:28:19,812
Speaker 2: them to the bottom of the ocean. Yeah.

1841
01:28:20,173 --> 01:28:22,333
Speaker 4: I saw a whole bunch of people playing at Able

1842
01:28:22,412 --> 01:28:25,013
Speaker 4: at the my local workmen's club back and christ Church,

1843
01:28:25,093 --> 01:28:26,612
Speaker 4: and we were there playing Paul and they were in

1844
01:28:26,652 --> 01:28:28,732
Speaker 4: this other room and I said, what's going on here?

1845
01:28:28,732 --> 01:28:30,812
Speaker 4: And I sat and watched and it was fascinating, such

1846
01:28:30,812 --> 01:28:31,412
Speaker 4: a great game.

1847
01:28:32,372 --> 01:28:33,852
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was that the Wolveston Club.

1848
01:28:34,013 --> 01:28:36,492
Speaker 22: Yeah, you're onto it, Yeah you.

1849
01:28:38,333 --> 01:28:40,733
Speaker 2: Y oh, maybe I was watching you play.

1850
01:28:41,412 --> 01:28:42,892
Speaker 8: No, I don't hang out with those.

1851
01:28:42,692 --> 01:28:44,932
Speaker 2: Guys, the nerds.

1852
01:28:45,692 --> 01:28:48,893
Speaker 8: They look like bad news, to be fair, their troublewakers

1853
01:28:49,333 --> 01:28:51,773
Speaker 8: sometimes thereeah.

1854
01:28:50,933 --> 01:28:52,852
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, this is a problem.

1855
01:28:52,933 --> 01:28:55,572
Speaker 8: Yeah, the thing is next with beer and chips.

1856
01:28:55,812 --> 01:28:56,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, spot on, that's the.

1857
01:28:56,732 --> 01:28:59,213
Speaker 2: Wolveston bo beer chips and Warhammer. It sounds a right

1858
01:28:59,253 --> 01:29:01,093
Speaker 2: to me. But you know, people that dame. Before my

1859
01:29:01,173 --> 01:29:03,293
Speaker 2: kids got into Warhammer, I didn't know too much about

1860
01:29:03,333 --> 01:29:06,213
Speaker 2: it, and I'd always walked past the shops in malls or

1861
01:29:06,253 --> 01:29:08,093
Speaker 2: in stores, and I're like, this thing must be big,

1862
01:29:08,093 --> 01:29:12,253
Speaker 2: because there are Warhammer shops everywhere so it's it's there's

1863
01:29:12,253 --> 01:29:14,173
Speaker 2: a lot of you Warhammer clicked. It's out there able.

1864
01:29:14,973 --> 01:29:19,093
Speaker 8: Oh, it's massive, Like I think Games Workshop, which is

1865
01:29:19,093 --> 01:29:21,892
Speaker 8: the parent company, you're like the biggest company in the

1866
01:29:22,013 --> 01:29:25,253
Speaker 8: UK at the moment. They're just yeah, they're just churage

1867
01:29:25,293 --> 01:29:27,333
Speaker 8: and yeah, and you can get sort of there's lots

1868
01:29:27,333 --> 01:29:29,572
Speaker 8: of different games. You've got like a big table with

1869
01:29:29,732 --> 01:29:32,532
Speaker 8: five hundred figures on it sort of fighting, or you

1870
01:29:32,612 --> 01:29:35,852
Speaker 8: get little versions where there's you know too, you've just

1871
01:29:35,893 --> 01:29:39,133
Speaker 8: got ten guys and girls that fight and things like that.

1872
01:29:39,612 --> 01:29:42,972
Speaker 2: All right, and you're excited about Henry Cavill's you Warhammer show.

1873
01:29:42,973 --> 01:29:45,612
Speaker 2: That's Warhammer a show that's coming along.

1874
01:29:46,492 --> 01:29:51,012
Speaker 8: Very excited. Yeah, because he's about a million times more

1875
01:29:51,093 --> 01:29:51,772
Speaker 8: into it than me.

1876
01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:55,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the great thing about that. That's a great

1877
01:29:55,572 --> 01:29:57,772
Speaker 2: thing about him, isn't he He's a total nerd. He's

1878
01:29:58,053 --> 01:30:02,372
Speaker 2: he's the world's buffest, best looking nerd. He absolutely loves

1879
01:30:02,532 --> 01:30:05,732
Speaker 2: loves the stuff. He's into Warhammer. And what was the

1880
01:30:05,732 --> 01:30:07,452
Speaker 2: TV show he was in that way? It went massive

1881
01:30:07,492 --> 01:30:10,253
Speaker 2: on the Witcher, which off the rails when he didn't

1882
01:30:10,293 --> 01:30:10,772
Speaker 2: have control.

1883
01:30:10,933 --> 01:30:15,173
Speaker 8: Yeah, and now we've got one of the hymns were

1884
01:30:15,293 --> 01:30:16,972
Speaker 8: doing it for the last season.

1885
01:30:17,293 --> 01:30:19,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, and how much to reckon you have sunk into

1886
01:30:19,853 --> 01:30:20,972
Speaker 4: this hobby of yours able?

1887
01:30:21,853 --> 01:30:23,933
Speaker 8: I would say at least ten k's because you have

1888
01:30:23,973 --> 01:30:26,372
Speaker 8: to buy. You have to buy like the figures and

1889
01:30:26,412 --> 01:30:30,973
Speaker 8: then you have to buy the paints and multiple you

1890
01:30:31,013 --> 01:30:33,652
Speaker 8: know things to help you painting, like good lights and

1891
01:30:34,612 --> 01:30:35,973
Speaker 8: paint versions were expensive.

1892
01:30:36,213 --> 01:30:38,213
Speaker 2: And have you one if you go one of those

1893
01:30:39,173 --> 01:30:42,612
Speaker 2: you know looking glasses. You know there's special ones like

1894
01:30:42,652 --> 01:30:44,253
Speaker 2: a jeweler that you look through for the painting.

1895
01:30:45,933 --> 01:30:49,012
Speaker 8: No, but my brother in law has to use magnifying glass.

1896
01:30:49,133 --> 01:30:51,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was the word. That was

1897
01:30:51,853 --> 01:30:54,253
Speaker 2: the word I was desperately searching for. I got to

1898
01:30:54,253 --> 01:30:55,972
Speaker 2: look at glasses as they got.

1899
01:30:55,772 --> 01:30:57,732
Speaker 4: Steady hands like a surgeon, I imagine able.

1900
01:30:59,053 --> 01:31:04,133
Speaker 2: Yes, whiskey helped, right, Okay, well I disapprove this. I

1901
01:31:04,213 --> 01:31:07,732
Speaker 2: disapprove of this Australian woman and it's stupid Minion's collection.

1902
01:31:07,853 --> 01:31:10,772
Speaker 2: But approve of your collection a book? So not that

1903
01:31:11,893 --> 01:31:14,092
Speaker 2: your approval Yeah yeah, I mean not that means anything,

1904
01:31:15,372 --> 01:31:18,612
Speaker 2: it means anything at all, But you've got it. Okay,

1905
01:31:20,013 --> 01:31:20,532
Speaker 2: good to chat.

1906
01:31:20,572 --> 01:31:23,173
Speaker 4: I eatee hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear about say,

1907
01:31:23,253 --> 01:31:25,973
Speaker 4: your collections at home and the discussions that you have

1908
01:31:26,013 --> 01:31:29,813
Speaker 4: with your family members about these collections that verge on obsessions.

1909
01:31:30,013 --> 01:31:32,412
Speaker 4: Ide hundred eighty ten eighty years and number to call.

1910
01:31:32,692 --> 01:31:34,772
Speaker 2: This is a problem. I don't approve of this. This

1911
01:31:34,853 --> 01:31:38,053
Speaker 2: Texas is My wife collects Crocs, shares about fifty five

1912
01:31:38,093 --> 01:31:40,532
Speaker 2: peers of them. Help. Yeah, how many pairs of Crocs

1913
01:31:40,532 --> 01:31:42,572
Speaker 2: do you need? I mean I went into the Crocs

1914
01:31:42,572 --> 01:31:46,372
Speaker 2: store the other day, Yeah, because because Tracy was buying some.

1915
01:31:46,933 --> 01:31:48,932
Speaker 2: There are so many Crocks now and Crocs have gone

1916
01:31:48,973 --> 01:31:52,333
Speaker 2: miles away from just the standard brief. Yeah, they have

1917
01:31:52,452 --> 01:31:55,772
Speaker 2: got Crocs with heels. There's so many different types of Croxy.

1918
01:31:55,812 --> 01:31:57,133
Speaker 2: I think Crocs has jumped the shark.

1919
01:31:57,253 --> 01:31:59,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, one pair of Crocs is too much in

1920
01:31:59,253 --> 01:32:01,612
Speaker 4: my view. I eatee hundred and eighty one peer. You know,

1921
01:32:01,692 --> 01:32:02,612
Speaker 4: everyone needs one pier.

1922
01:32:03,013 --> 01:32:06,173
Speaker 2: You got your Crocs on today, no winter out of

1923
01:32:06,293 --> 01:32:08,692
Speaker 2: somewhat one pair of Crocs. But Crocs have going away

1924
01:32:08,692 --> 01:32:10,412
Speaker 2: from their brief of just a comfy shore with the

1925
01:32:10,572 --> 01:32:13,532
Speaker 2: when you know, put the sports mode down. But yeah,

1926
01:32:13,572 --> 01:32:15,772
Speaker 2: fifty five ps too many? Yeah? Absolutely?

1927
01:32:15,853 --> 01:32:17,532
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1928
01:32:17,572 --> 01:32:19,093
Speaker 4: to call. It is twenty two past three.

1929
01:32:23,293 --> 01:32:26,652
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1930
01:32:26,692 --> 01:32:28,652
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

1931
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:30,492
Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you.

1932
01:32:30,532 --> 01:32:34,173
Speaker 4: We're talking about your obsessive collections that you've got. An

1933
01:32:34,213 --> 01:32:36,932
Speaker 4: Australian woman would certainly fit that category. She has won

1934
01:32:36,973 --> 01:32:39,692
Speaker 4: the Guinness World Record awarded. I should say you don't

1935
01:32:39,732 --> 01:32:41,852
Speaker 4: win one of those. She's been awarded the Guinness World

1936
01:32:41,893 --> 01:32:46,652
Speaker 4: Record for her collection of minions. That that crazy little

1937
01:32:46,652 --> 01:32:48,572
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a good movie, but have a

1938
01:32:48,652 --> 01:32:49,932
Speaker 4: fifty two year old woman.

1939
01:32:49,692 --> 01:32:52,173
Speaker 2: Well, how many movies have there been? There's been multiple movies.

1940
01:32:52,213 --> 01:32:55,572
Speaker 2: There's been all the Despicable Moan movies, Despicable Me movies,

1941
01:32:55,612 --> 01:32:57,053
Speaker 2: and the minions a small part of it. Then the

1942
01:32:57,053 --> 01:32:59,053
Speaker 2: minions spun off and the Minion's got bigger than the

1943
01:32:59,093 --> 01:33:01,173
Speaker 2: Despicable Me. Yeah, but for a lot of people that

1944
01:33:01,213 --> 01:33:03,492
Speaker 2: can com planning. Because Tyler can't speak and she's got

1945
01:33:03,492 --> 01:33:05,653
Speaker 2: no right to be on the radio. He keeps saying minions.

1946
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:07,892
Speaker 4: I did read that text and said, what is a minyan?

1947
01:33:08,013 --> 01:33:10,493
Speaker 4: And then I realized is that yeah, okay, millions.

1948
01:33:10,652 --> 01:33:13,133
Speaker 2: Let's how you say. In the South, they they're humiliating,

1949
01:33:13,133 --> 01:33:17,572
Speaker 2: a little yellow things that run around and make childish jokes. Yeah,

1950
01:33:17,973 --> 01:33:19,652
Speaker 2: to be fair, quite funny. They work, quite fun But

1951
01:33:19,652 --> 01:33:20,492
Speaker 2: you don't need a thousand of.

1952
01:33:20,452 --> 01:33:22,532
Speaker 4: Them, No, and particularly not when you're fifty two.

1953
01:33:23,133 --> 01:33:29,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, Simon, Yeah, how are you good?

1954
01:33:29,652 --> 01:33:31,012
Speaker 12: Good? And Tyler?

1955
01:33:32,652 --> 01:33:34,053
Speaker 2: I was waiting for that. That's right, and to a

1956
01:33:34,133 --> 01:33:39,812
Speaker 2: lesser extent, Tyler, you're all equal there, good man, Simon,

1957
01:33:39,812 --> 01:33:40,333
Speaker 2: thank you.

1958
01:33:40,692 --> 01:33:44,693
Speaker 4: Now what have you got? You've got very interesting collection.

1959
01:33:46,133 --> 01:33:51,133
Speaker 12: Jar changeaws. Not my basically collection I've got. I've got

1960
01:33:51,133 --> 01:33:54,253
Speaker 12: a few museum pieces that actually still run quite nicely,

1961
01:33:54,812 --> 01:33:58,532
Speaker 12: But the rest of them are runners that run them

1962
01:33:58,692 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 12: window daily but weekly. Most of them are depending what

1963
01:34:02,213 --> 01:34:04,132
Speaker 12: job I'm going to do, I just conduce which.

1964
01:34:03,933 --> 01:34:06,132
Speaker 2: One will coming out fifteen change.

1965
01:34:07,532 --> 01:34:11,812
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's that's living petrol and four electrics. So

1966
01:34:13,013 --> 01:34:16,492
Speaker 12: they're all quarterless, the electric ones. But the rest of them, yeah,

1967
01:34:16,933 --> 01:34:17,812
Speaker 12: they're on the gases.

1968
01:34:18,333 --> 01:34:20,013
Speaker 4: Have you got you got a favorite? You've got an

1969
01:34:20,053 --> 01:34:21,732
Speaker 4: old faithful that you just keep going back to.

1970
01:34:23,053 --> 01:34:27,213
Speaker 12: I No, not so much. It's, like I said, depends

1971
01:34:27,253 --> 01:34:29,412
Speaker 12: on what I'm doing. There's one sort that comes with

1972
01:34:29,452 --> 01:34:33,052
Speaker 12: me on every job because it's it's just bloody useful

1973
01:34:33,492 --> 01:34:36,333
Speaker 12: And that's a an echo. It's Arboruk's top.

1974
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:36,652
Speaker 14: Hand or one.

1975
01:34:36,692 --> 01:34:39,732
Speaker 12: So one of these single handed jobs or you're generally

1976
01:34:39,772 --> 01:34:41,732
Speaker 12: using two handed, but you can use in one handed.

1977
01:34:43,572 --> 01:34:46,533
Speaker 12: That that one's that one's my sort of party favorite.

1978
01:34:46,612 --> 01:34:49,173
Speaker 12: But yeah, I've got a couple of others that I

1979
01:34:49,253 --> 01:34:52,652
Speaker 12: love to bring out. Yeah, it depends on what you're doing.

1980
01:34:53,133 --> 01:34:55,812
Speaker 2: Are you displaying them, like so you love them and

1981
01:34:55,853 --> 01:34:57,452
Speaker 2: your care for them, are they are they in a

1982
01:34:57,492 --> 01:35:00,452
Speaker 2: displayable situation like someone can go into your share or

1983
01:35:00,452 --> 01:35:02,692
Speaker 2: your garage and and and peruse them with you.

1984
01:35:03,652 --> 01:35:06,812
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, pretty much. On the racking of my workshop,

1985
01:35:07,452 --> 01:35:10,812
Speaker 12: you wander and basically you see five of them sticking

1986
01:35:10,853 --> 01:35:14,052
Speaker 12: out the shelf, but they're doubled upper on the shelf,

1987
01:35:14,093 --> 01:35:17,333
Speaker 12: So there's five tails sitting out, but if you pull

1988
01:35:17,412 --> 01:35:20,093
Speaker 12: one out, there's another one in there behind it. Yes,

1989
01:35:20,253 --> 01:35:24,492
Speaker 12: they're all doubled up. It's take a fair space, but

1990
01:35:24,973 --> 01:35:26,012
Speaker 12: it's all good fun and games.

1991
01:35:26,093 --> 01:35:28,173
Speaker 2: Still got all your fingers the assignment.

1992
01:35:28,973 --> 01:35:32,652
Speaker 12: Yes, Yeah, we're always excited about that. You're keeping the fingers.

1993
01:35:32,692 --> 01:35:33,452
Speaker 2: That's a big one.

1994
01:35:34,492 --> 01:35:36,692
Speaker 12: Yeah, And it's just the case of sometimes when people

1995
01:35:36,732 --> 01:35:39,093
Speaker 12: go this this brand and this brand and this brand's better.

1996
01:35:39,133 --> 01:35:45,093
Speaker 12: I'm like, yeah, I've got nearly one of each brand. Yeah,

1997
01:35:45,452 --> 01:35:49,372
Speaker 12: I'm not a brand. This sort of person good.

1998
01:35:49,532 --> 01:35:51,372
Speaker 4: The old electrics get a bit of a hard time

1999
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:53,253
Speaker 4: from the purest simon, how do you feel about the

2000
01:35:53,253 --> 01:35:54,172
Speaker 4: electric chainsawce?

2001
01:35:56,812 --> 01:35:58,812
Speaker 12: As far as electric corded one?

2002
01:35:59,652 --> 01:36:02,652
Speaker 4: So I was thinking I were just running off a battery.

2003
01:36:02,692 --> 01:36:04,252
Speaker 4: Do these things plug into the wall.

2004
01:36:05,053 --> 01:36:08,572
Speaker 12: I've got I've got both varieties as well, So a

2005
01:36:08,692 --> 01:36:11,133
Speaker 12: corded one, a plug in mine. I use it when

2006
01:36:11,133 --> 01:36:15,932
Speaker 12: I'm out in the in my wood spilling area because

2007
01:36:16,053 --> 01:36:18,372
Speaker 12: I don't need cordless and I don't want gas. And

2008
01:36:18,893 --> 01:36:21,253
Speaker 12: they are actually quite talking, they're quite quite powerful. But

2009
01:36:21,333 --> 01:36:25,612
Speaker 12: cordless is definitely It's like with most tools, most trades,

2010
01:36:25,933 --> 01:36:28,812
Speaker 12: cordless is the way to go. They're brilliant, they're really

2011
01:36:28,893 --> 01:36:32,652
Speaker 12: quiet that they started he pressed the button with you're

2012
01:36:32,692 --> 01:36:35,772
Speaker 12: away and racing. So I do love the cordless. But

2013
01:36:35,812 --> 01:36:39,612
Speaker 12: when you need speed or just raw power, yeah, there's

2014
01:36:39,652 --> 01:36:40,532
Speaker 12: nothing like to stroke.

2015
01:36:40,933 --> 01:36:44,133
Speaker 2: Hey, so have you ever tried getting a boiler suit

2016
01:36:44,213 --> 01:36:47,333
Speaker 2: and a hockey mask, taking the chain off, firing up

2017
01:36:47,412 --> 01:36:50,012
Speaker 2: your chainsaw, and chasing kids around at Halloween?

2018
01:36:51,692 --> 01:36:53,412
Speaker 12: I don't know why I want to take the chain off.

2019
01:36:56,812 --> 01:36:59,173
Speaker 2: I saw that Halloween there was this guy running out

2020
01:36:59,173 --> 01:37:01,212
Speaker 2: of his house with the chainsaw. It was in ponsible.

2021
01:37:01,293 --> 01:37:03,372
Speaker 2: It was very very funny. No no, no, no, no, no,

2022
01:37:03,372 --> 01:37:04,812
Speaker 2: no kids would I loved it?

2023
01:37:05,893 --> 01:37:07,932
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call

2024
01:37:07,933 --> 01:37:10,013
Speaker 4: love to hear about your crazy collections that you've got

2025
01:37:10,053 --> 01:37:10,372
Speaker 4: at home.

2026
01:37:10,572 --> 01:37:13,812
Speaker 2: Virgin on obsession. His texas said is that this is

2027
01:37:13,853 --> 01:37:17,173
Speaker 2: this guy in New Zealand's speed camera, vigilant fleximan. Maybe

2028
01:37:17,213 --> 01:37:17,572
Speaker 2: he is.

2029
01:37:18,893 --> 01:37:25,492
Speaker 4: It is twenty nine past three headlines with railing coming up, news.

2030
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:28,812
Speaker 15: Talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no

2031
01:37:28,973 --> 01:37:31,892
Speaker 15: trouble with the Blue bubble. More money is going into

2032
01:37:31,933 --> 01:37:35,612
Speaker 15: the redress system for survivors of abuse in state and

2033
01:37:35,692 --> 01:37:39,372
Speaker 15: faith based care. Minister in Charge Erica Stanford says this

2034
01:37:39,412 --> 01:37:43,293
Speaker 15: has been decided over setting up a new compensation scheme,

2035
01:37:43,612 --> 01:37:48,052
Speaker 15: a key recommendation from the Royal Commission. Protesters have gathered

2036
01:37:48,093 --> 01:37:51,333
Speaker 15: across New Zealand angry with the pay equity claim changes

2037
01:37:51,572 --> 01:37:52,692
Speaker 15: pushed through Parliament.

2038
01:37:52,732 --> 01:37:53,253
Speaker 2: This week.

2039
01:37:54,173 --> 01:37:57,333
Speaker 15: The governments announced it will review the White Tongy Tribunal

2040
01:37:57,612 --> 01:37:59,652
Speaker 15: in a bid to ensure it is best place to

2041
01:37:59,732 --> 01:38:03,053
Speaker 15: continue serving the interests of Mary and all New Zealanders.

2042
01:38:03,412 --> 01:38:06,732
Speaker 15: The review's part of National's coalition agreement with New Zealand.

2043
01:38:06,772 --> 01:38:11,533
Speaker 15: First hight the news of further funding for skin cancer treatments,

2044
01:38:11,893 --> 01:38:15,492
Speaker 15: farm acts, increasing access to keep Truder, and funding to

2045
01:38:15,652 --> 01:38:19,973
Speaker 15: Finla and Mechanist for people with Stage three B to

2046
01:38:20,173 --> 01:38:24,812
Speaker 15: four melanoma. A major road has flooded in Auckland as

2047
01:38:24,853 --> 01:38:28,173
Speaker 15: wet weather makes its way across the country. Waters filling

2048
01:38:28,213 --> 01:38:31,372
Speaker 15: gutters and running across West End Road and Cox's Bay

2049
01:38:31,853 --> 01:38:34,972
Speaker 15: Torrental downpalls a forecast for much of the North Island.

2050
01:38:35,933 --> 01:38:40,052
Speaker 15: Rocket Lab revenue slip seven percent as space company expands

2051
01:38:40,093 --> 01:38:43,973
Speaker 15: American defense efforts. Find out more at ZI Herald Premium.

2052
01:38:44,093 --> 01:38:45,932
Speaker 15: Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

2053
01:38:46,013 --> 01:38:49,133
Speaker 4: Thank you as always, Ray Lane. We are chatting about obsessia.

2054
01:38:49,293 --> 01:38:52,372
Speaker 4: Obsessor for rather collections that you have in your life,

2055
01:38:52,372 --> 01:38:54,972
Speaker 4: whether that's yourself or a family member that might need

2056
01:38:54,973 --> 01:38:56,452
Speaker 4: a bit of an intervention. We want to hear from

2057
01:38:56,452 --> 01:38:57,612
Speaker 4: you at one hundred and eighty ten.

2058
01:38:57,532 --> 01:39:03,012
Speaker 2: Eighty get a Detroit. You're a fantastic collector.

2059
01:39:03,093 --> 01:39:08,012
Speaker 17: Hi, Yes, I've got a collectible shop.

2060
01:39:08,933 --> 01:39:10,132
Speaker 2: Oh you run a click.

2061
01:39:11,933 --> 01:39:13,573
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's online business.

2062
01:39:14,853 --> 01:39:17,012
Speaker 2: And what's that? What's it called?

2063
01:39:19,013 --> 01:39:20,572
Speaker 10: Dark Legacy Collectibles?

2064
01:39:20,772 --> 01:39:22,012
Speaker 2: Good name? All right, and we'll look.

2065
01:39:22,293 --> 01:39:24,613
Speaker 16: Find me on strade me Facebook.

2066
01:39:25,933 --> 01:39:28,253
Speaker 4: So what what's your go to in terms of of

2067
01:39:28,293 --> 01:39:32,093
Speaker 4: what you collect yourself, Detroit? What's your what do you

2068
01:39:32,213 --> 01:39:33,132
Speaker 4: tend to lean towards?

2069
01:39:35,772 --> 01:39:37,773
Speaker 10: Goose Bumps and Pokemon?

2070
01:39:38,213 --> 01:39:38,333
Speaker 3: Ah?

2071
01:39:38,492 --> 01:39:42,492
Speaker 2: Right, so so and creepy stuff? Creepy stuff? So you

2072
01:39:42,532 --> 01:39:46,892
Speaker 2: know with your Dark Legacy collectibles? What what define something

2073
01:39:46,933 --> 01:39:48,772
Speaker 2: that as a collectible? What what do you look at

2074
01:39:48,812 --> 01:39:50,412
Speaker 2: and go this is a collectible and it is worth

2075
01:39:50,412 --> 01:39:59,093
Speaker 2: putting in my shop. What are the range of things.

2076
01:39:56,412 --> 01:39:57,972
Speaker 18: Horror books.

2077
01:39:59,253 --> 01:40:00,572
Speaker 10: From the Goosebumps series?

2078
01:40:00,812 --> 01:40:04,772
Speaker 2: Yep? Good series, there's.

2079
01:40:04,772 --> 01:40:07,412
Speaker 10: Mini series pretty much all of the series.

2080
01:40:09,532 --> 01:40:09,812
Speaker 2: Yep.

2081
01:40:09,973 --> 01:40:14,972
Speaker 4: And and you mentioned you mentioned Pokemon cards as well.

2082
01:40:16,133 --> 01:40:17,692
Speaker 2: What about what about magic?

2083
01:40:18,093 --> 01:40:19,972
Speaker 4: The gathering must be pretty pretty high up the list.

2084
01:40:21,853 --> 01:40:23,492
Speaker 16: That's that's there.

2085
01:40:24,253 --> 01:40:28,652
Speaker 10: It's not a very easy game to get your hands on.

2086
01:40:29,412 --> 01:40:30,412
Speaker 10: Nothing is these days.

2087
01:40:30,412 --> 01:40:31,013
Speaker 23: Anyways.

2088
01:40:32,452 --> 01:40:34,452
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for your call. Yeah, also

2089
01:40:34,492 --> 01:40:38,772
Speaker 2: clicks large gaps between sentences. Our producer Andrew and the

2090
01:40:39,133 --> 01:40:43,053
Speaker 2: and studio b over there he's collecting. Michael's on the phone, Mike,

2091
01:40:43,213 --> 01:40:44,972
Speaker 2: He's done a good job, and I'm just looking down

2092
01:40:45,013 --> 01:40:46,772
Speaker 2: the line here. The next three calls are all Mike,

2093
01:40:46,893 --> 01:40:48,333
Speaker 2: So I think Andrew's got a problem.

2094
01:40:48,652 --> 01:40:53,333
Speaker 4: We need an intervention on the collection of Michael's here, Mike.

2095
01:40:53,173 --> 01:40:53,892
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

2096
01:40:55,452 --> 01:40:56,173
Speaker 14: Yeah, which one?

2097
01:40:57,572 --> 01:40:59,252
Speaker 2: We'll go with you first, Mike.

2098
01:40:59,572 --> 01:41:00,572
Speaker 14: You're talking to me?

2099
01:41:01,013 --> 01:41:03,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, We'll let the other two hold for

2100
01:41:03,572 --> 01:41:04,812
Speaker 2: a bit. You're our first.

2101
01:41:04,853 --> 01:41:08,333
Speaker 14: Mike at three, All right, yep, no, good, good to hear.

2102
01:41:08,572 --> 01:41:12,133
Speaker 14: But I'm Mike and Melody. My wife is Melody. So

2103
01:41:12,173 --> 01:41:16,492
Speaker 14: where everybody calls us Eminem and Melody arrived home with

2104
01:41:16,532 --> 01:41:18,973
Speaker 14: a golfing prize one day one of the little characters.

2105
01:41:19,333 --> 01:41:22,213
Speaker 14: I've never seen one before. I said, gosh, that's cue.

2106
01:41:22,253 --> 01:41:25,132
Speaker 14: Don't wonder how many more there are. We've got sixteen

2107
01:41:25,213 --> 01:41:28,293
Speaker 14: hundred of them in the shed now the case outside.

2108
01:41:28,093 --> 01:41:31,812
Speaker 4: Jeepers and you know, have you ever had to have

2109
01:41:31,853 --> 01:41:33,612
Speaker 4: you ever thought about just sitting down and having a

2110
01:41:33,652 --> 01:41:34,692
Speaker 4: bit of a family intervention?

2111
01:41:37,293 --> 01:41:40,932
Speaker 14: Well, she said, none are coming upstairs, and last time accounted,

2112
01:41:40,973 --> 01:41:44,173
Speaker 14: she's flogged eighty.

2113
01:41:45,293 --> 01:41:46,412
Speaker 2: That is very good.

2114
01:41:46,612 --> 01:41:49,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that is I mean when it takes

2115
01:41:49,372 --> 01:41:51,333
Speaker 4: up the garrete space in sixteen hundred, how long did

2116
01:41:51,372 --> 01:41:52,812
Speaker 4: it take you to Collick all those.

2117
01:41:53,452 --> 01:41:55,012
Speaker 14: It's taken just on seven years.

2118
01:41:55,572 --> 01:42:02,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an obsession. I mean so when so

2119
01:42:02,253 --> 01:42:05,612
Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds not an obsession? When does it become an obsession? Mike?

2120
01:42:07,173 --> 01:42:08,892
Speaker 14: When I can't think of anything else to do?

2121
01:42:11,053 --> 01:42:15,533
Speaker 2: Mike, And moving on to Mike, you're collecting coins and banknotes?

2122
01:42:16,452 --> 01:42:17,612
Speaker 10: Yep, this is Michael here.

2123
01:42:17,812 --> 01:42:21,612
Speaker 2: Oh Michael, not Mike, all right, right, big difference. Yeah.

2124
01:42:23,133 --> 01:42:27,772
Speaker 10: Now I've got quantity banknotes from eighty five different countries.

2125
01:42:29,253 --> 01:42:30,372
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

2126
01:42:30,933 --> 01:42:34,253
Speaker 10: The thing is that I collected them as I rode

2127
01:42:34,732 --> 01:42:38,452
Speaker 10: my motorbike through or for ten years through those same

2128
01:42:38,612 --> 01:42:39,652
Speaker 10: eighty five countries.

2129
01:42:40,333 --> 01:42:42,813
Speaker 2: That is cool. That is very cool.

2130
01:42:42,173 --> 01:42:46,172
Speaker 10: And I managed to get every coin from each country

2131
01:42:46,933 --> 01:42:49,652
Speaker 10: and the first two or three notes because that started

2132
01:42:49,652 --> 01:42:52,333
Speaker 10: to get a expence of each country.

2133
01:42:52,492 --> 01:42:54,572
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. So you will only collect it if

2134
01:42:54,612 --> 01:42:58,892
Speaker 2: you've if you've ridden through the country, correct, right, See,

2135
01:42:58,893 --> 01:43:01,093
Speaker 2: that's good. That's good. That that that's a you know,

2136
01:43:01,093 --> 01:43:03,133
Speaker 2: that limits how many you can go. You can't get

2137
01:43:03,133 --> 01:43:06,412
Speaker 2: too far out of control, because it's much harder to

2138
01:43:06,412 --> 01:43:08,652
Speaker 2: to get them, you know, to move it forward. For me,

2139
01:43:08,732 --> 01:43:11,652
Speaker 2: I can just order another record or another cap online.

2140
01:43:11,692 --> 01:43:14,612
Speaker 2: That comes keeps coming in. But your distinct rules mean

2141
01:43:15,053 --> 01:43:18,333
Speaker 2: that your collection is more special and more and harder

2142
01:43:18,333 --> 01:43:18,692
Speaker 2: to grow.

2143
01:43:20,013 --> 01:43:21,253
Speaker 8: And it took me ten years.

2144
01:43:22,293 --> 01:43:26,972
Speaker 4: Cool and what was the most obscure currency that you collected?

2145
01:43:30,053 --> 01:43:32,932
Speaker 4: Any country you went through that's not the same country anymore.

2146
01:43:34,732 --> 01:43:39,612
Speaker 10: Sudan is now north and South because of Czechoslovakia is

2147
01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:46,293
Speaker 10: now Czech Republic and Slovakian Republic. Yugoslavia is now Macedonia

2148
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Speaker 10: and Bosnia Herzegovner and a few others, the CCP, the

2149
01:43:53,293 --> 01:43:58,812
Speaker 10: Russian is now. I've managed to get to Moldavia and

2150
01:43:59,133 --> 01:44:03,492
Speaker 10: Ukraine before they broke away. So yeah, there's a few

2151
01:44:03,532 --> 01:44:05,852
Speaker 10: countries that don't exist anymore.

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01:44:06,492 --> 01:44:08,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll go on your on your Michael. I

2153
01:44:08,492 --> 01:44:10,652
Speaker 2: don't collect per se, but I hold onto my old

2154
01:44:10,692 --> 01:44:14,293
Speaker 2: deodorant cans, okay, mate, I have thirty and have about

2155
01:44:14,333 --> 01:44:16,652
Speaker 2: twenty different cans kinds of can.

2156
01:44:16,772 --> 01:44:17,132
Speaker 19: Mate.

2157
01:44:17,213 --> 01:44:20,133
Speaker 2: That's just not putting the recycling out. That's just not

2158
01:44:20,133 --> 01:44:23,972
Speaker 2: putting out the rubbish. That's hoarding trash. That is non collection.

2159
01:44:24,253 --> 01:44:26,572
Speaker 2: It's like someone ringing up and saying or tix in

2160
01:44:26,612 --> 01:44:30,892
Speaker 2: and saying I collicked toilet roll the twilet rolls when

2161
01:44:30,933 --> 01:44:32,852
Speaker 2: the paper's finished. It's like, no, you just haven't put

2162
01:44:32,853 --> 01:44:34,492
Speaker 2: out the rubbit. You're just a doody bugger and you

2163
01:44:34,532 --> 01:44:38,692
Speaker 2: need to clean yourself up. I find spraying the scent

2164
01:44:38,732 --> 01:44:41,053
Speaker 2: whenever I go through my memorability box brings back a

2165
01:44:41,053 --> 01:44:43,253
Speaker 2: lot of nostalgic memories from various stages of life. The

2166
01:44:43,293 --> 01:44:45,812
Speaker 2: sense of smell is very closely associated with memory. That

2167
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:47,933
Speaker 2: is true. And now he collects colone, so you know,

2168
01:44:48,013 --> 01:44:48,412
Speaker 2: I think.

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01:44:48,492 --> 01:44:49,772
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll give a glass on that.

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01:44:49,812 --> 01:44:53,013
Speaker 2: Then I respect the clicking of colognes. That's fine. I

2171
01:44:53,053 --> 01:44:54,333
Speaker 2: just realized I've got another clique.

2172
01:44:54,372 --> 01:44:54,532
Speaker 3: You know.

2173
01:44:54,692 --> 01:44:56,652
Speaker 2: I've been complaining about people with collections. I just realized

2174
01:44:56,692 --> 01:44:59,012
Speaker 2: also clicked watches, don't it. How many watches are you got?

2175
01:44:59,412 --> 01:45:03,932
Speaker 2: Not that many, maybe fifty, But I clicked watches from

2176
01:45:03,933 --> 01:45:06,852
Speaker 2: behind the iron curtain, you know, oh Russian watches. Yeah,

2177
01:45:07,053 --> 01:45:10,293
Speaker 2: not necessarily Russian, you we see. So yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway,

2178
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:13,293
Speaker 2: let's don't talk about me too much. Hey, lads, I've

2179
01:45:13,293 --> 01:45:16,173
Speaker 2: been collecting tumors for the last few years and nothing's working,

2180
01:45:16,173 --> 01:45:19,012
Speaker 2: so I'm happy to try shaming them. That's from Tom. Yes,

2181
01:45:19,053 --> 01:45:22,133
Speaker 2: that Tom. That's great New Zealand to Tom so We

2182
01:45:22,133 --> 01:45:26,253
Speaker 2: had a fantastic chat with him last week. A great

2183
01:45:26,293 --> 01:45:27,812
Speaker 2: man and all the best to you, Tom.

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01:45:27,893 --> 01:45:29,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, crowd favorite Tom, thank you very much for getting

2185
01:45:29,933 --> 01:45:31,452
Speaker 4: back in touch. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten

2186
01:45:31,532 --> 01:45:33,452
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. Love to hear about

2187
01:45:33,532 --> 01:45:37,093
Speaker 4: your collections that are urging on obsessions and if there's

2188
01:45:37,133 --> 01:45:38,852
Speaker 4: someone in your household that you want to shame about

2189
01:45:38,853 --> 01:45:39,733
Speaker 4: their connection.

2190
01:45:39,692 --> 01:45:42,092
Speaker 2: And what do we need to stop? Is it time

2191
01:45:42,333 --> 01:45:46,452
Speaker 2: to start listening to the Buddha about collections because we

2192
01:45:46,492 --> 01:45:48,173
Speaker 2: all know what the Buddha has to say, don't we

2193
01:45:48,532 --> 01:45:49,933
Speaker 2: do you know what the Buddha has to say. I

2194
01:45:49,933 --> 01:45:51,652
Speaker 2: don't know what the bo had to say. It comes

2195
01:45:51,692 --> 01:45:54,652
Speaker 2: not through positions or ownership, but through a wise and

2196
01:45:54,732 --> 01:45:58,692
Speaker 2: loving heart. You don't need all those caps and watches

2197
01:45:59,333 --> 01:46:02,852
Speaker 2: and vinyl and records. You just need a wise and

2198
01:46:02,893 --> 01:46:04,053
Speaker 2: loving heart. There you go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Matties Taylor Adams, your calls on eight hundred and

2200
01:46:09,893 --> 01:46:13,892
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Be welcome back into the show. Good afternoon to you.

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01:46:16,772 --> 01:46:20,412
Speaker 4: We're talking about collections that verge on obsession and kinder

2203
01:46:20,492 --> 01:46:22,573
Speaker 4: hear yours or if you've got someone in your household

2204
01:46:22,612 --> 01:46:24,333
Speaker 4: that you think needs a bit of intervention.

2205
01:46:24,492 --> 01:46:26,812
Speaker 2: Werever that. Yeah, Look, and what we're doing here is

2206
01:46:26,812 --> 01:46:29,253
Speaker 2: we celebrating collections. Everyone's ringing in celebrating collections. But I

2207
01:46:29,333 --> 01:46:33,173
Speaker 2: want to push back against collecting. I want we're not octopie,

2208
01:46:33,213 --> 01:46:35,653
Speaker 2: as I keep saying over and over again, We're not magpies.

2209
01:46:36,213 --> 01:46:39,772
Speaker 2: What is this compulsion? What is this human compulsion to

2210
01:46:40,053 --> 01:46:41,973
Speaker 2: collect things? What do we get out of it? So

2211
01:46:42,492 --> 01:46:45,852
Speaker 2: if you know your positions on you, that's what happens first.

2212
01:46:45,853 --> 01:46:47,772
Speaker 2: You own your positions and your positions on you.

2213
01:46:48,013 --> 01:46:50,892
Speaker 4: I need someone to tell them to get it together

2214
01:46:51,452 --> 01:46:56,133
Speaker 4: and sort out your obsession worth watches, vinyl at I'm

2215
01:46:56,133 --> 01:46:56,892
Speaker 4: sure there's other.

2216
01:46:56,772 --> 01:46:59,333
Speaker 2: Things as this textas says collecting watches is a complete

2217
01:46:59,372 --> 01:47:04,012
Speaker 2: waste of time, and I agree, but I'm bomb okay,

2218
01:47:04,053 --> 01:47:06,253
Speaker 2: our third in our collection of Michael's on the phone.

2219
01:47:06,572 --> 01:47:07,333
Speaker 2: What's your collection?

2220
01:47:09,093 --> 01:47:09,572
Speaker 8: Guys?

2221
01:47:09,652 --> 01:47:13,012
Speaker 20: Yeah, Michael just from just before I get onto my daughter.

2222
01:47:13,572 --> 01:47:16,452
Speaker 20: As for the other Michael has just gone through. It

2223
01:47:16,532 --> 01:47:19,452
Speaker 20: reminds me I have a small collection of notes and

2224
01:47:19,532 --> 01:47:25,012
Speaker 20: coins and stamp packs from around the world. My most

2225
01:47:25,452 --> 01:47:29,532
Speaker 20: prize ones is what I've got left of five dollar notes,

2226
01:47:29,572 --> 01:47:33,333
Speaker 20: all signed by Ed Hilly and my collection as well.

2227
01:47:33,372 --> 01:47:35,612
Speaker 20: I had about twenty of them, but I gave quite

2228
01:47:35,652 --> 01:47:39,452
Speaker 20: a few of them way to friends and acquaintances, and

2229
01:47:39,572 --> 01:47:43,052
Speaker 20: I to me, that's the ones I've got left are mine.

2230
01:47:43,213 --> 01:47:45,253
Speaker 20: I won't be never given those ones away. And I've

2231
01:47:45,293 --> 01:47:48,253
Speaker 20: got one and a series of photos with Ed and

2232
01:47:48,333 --> 01:47:53,293
Speaker 20: myself at Scott Base, him signing a postcard of him

2233
01:47:53,333 --> 01:47:57,452
Speaker 20: and a tractor and with a five dollar boat sign

2234
01:47:57,772 --> 01:48:00,052
Speaker 20: notes in the middle of the frame. And that's that's

2235
01:48:00,173 --> 01:48:03,612
Speaker 20: my kind of thing. But I rang up about my daughter.

2236
01:48:04,173 --> 01:48:06,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, just quickly before you get into that, Michael, what

2237
01:48:06,213 --> 01:48:07,253
Speaker 4: were you doing at Scott Base.

2238
01:48:08,452 --> 01:48:10,612
Speaker 20: I used to work for the antilet program for fourteen years.

2239
01:48:10,652 --> 01:48:10,932
Speaker 2: Wow.

2240
01:48:11,053 --> 01:48:13,772
Speaker 20: I spent about two hundred and thirty seven days down

2241
01:48:13,772 --> 01:48:14,692
Speaker 20: there for eight years.

2242
01:48:14,893 --> 01:48:15,973
Speaker 2: Wow. Fantastic.

2243
01:48:16,253 --> 01:48:19,892
Speaker 20: Yeah, about three times, three times when Ed was down there.

2244
01:48:20,093 --> 01:48:20,492
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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01:48:20,612 --> 01:48:23,932
Speaker 20: He was a gentleman and he signed all his notes

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01:48:23,933 --> 01:48:26,333
Speaker 20: for me on my three trips with him. He was

2247
01:48:26,412 --> 01:48:28,333
Speaker 20: there for a specially different reason. I was here to work.

2248
01:48:29,412 --> 01:48:29,732
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:48:29,772 --> 01:48:32,253
Speaker 20: So I've got say about half dozen left. Two of

2250
01:48:32,293 --> 01:48:36,293
Speaker 20: them are subsquential numbers and they're my prize ones. But

2251
01:48:36,772 --> 01:48:38,532
Speaker 20: you know, I've given them a few away to some

2252
01:48:38,692 --> 01:48:42,452
Speaker 20: good friends and one to a group and a guy

2253
01:48:42,492 --> 01:48:46,213
Speaker 20: in America who's continuing at support of Hillary's school and

2254
01:48:46,213 --> 01:48:49,492
Speaker 20: the Himalayas. He continued the sport because we used to

2255
01:48:49,492 --> 01:48:52,213
Speaker 20: buy some equipment off him, and he came back and

2256
01:48:52,253 --> 01:48:55,492
Speaker 20: said that it was quite He was supports ed Italy.

2257
01:48:55,612 --> 01:48:58,772
Speaker 20: So I sent him a signed five dollar note as well.

2258
01:48:59,213 --> 01:49:00,452
Speaker 20: So I hope he's got to hang up in his

2259
01:49:00,492 --> 01:49:01,212
Speaker 20: office somewhere.

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01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:02,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, great story.

2261
01:49:02,532 --> 01:49:05,133
Speaker 20: My kids have got one each. But what they've done

2262
01:49:05,133 --> 01:49:06,772
Speaker 20: with them, I don't know. But they're all framed.

2263
01:49:07,253 --> 01:49:09,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're sorry. You're going to mention your daughter

2264
01:49:09,293 --> 01:49:11,012
Speaker 4: as well. She got a collection.

2265
01:49:11,973 --> 01:49:15,173
Speaker 20: Yeah, she's about the ten thirty eight and then her

2266
01:49:15,572 --> 01:49:21,293
Speaker 20: arm outdoor study type workshop. Well she's got she's got

2267
01:49:21,333 --> 01:49:25,013
Speaker 20: all this Harry Potter stuff. She's got the figurines, the

2268
01:49:25,053 --> 01:49:27,693
Speaker 20: whole crew of figurines, she's got the box of videos,

2269
01:49:28,812 --> 01:49:31,213
Speaker 20: all this other stuff, and she's they bought a couple

2270
01:49:31,253 --> 01:49:34,213
Speaker 20: of things. I've trained me the whole castle, which is

2271
01:49:34,253 --> 01:49:37,852
Speaker 20: all on lego, and she's a whiz at putting lego together,

2272
01:49:38,692 --> 01:49:42,572
Speaker 20: and she's currently building the bank and she showed me

2273
01:49:42,612 --> 01:49:45,093
Speaker 20: how it works. So I was just silent what to get.

2274
01:49:45,253 --> 01:49:48,572
Speaker 20: And I'm actually not say no, you can't do it.

2275
01:49:48,612 --> 01:49:51,173
Speaker 20: I'm actually supporting it. But I was trying to figure

2276
01:49:51,213 --> 01:49:54,173
Speaker 20: what to buy for her birthday, and because my sister

2277
01:49:54,213 --> 01:49:59,133
Speaker 20: lives in the US, I bought her some matchbox toys

2278
01:49:59,572 --> 01:50:03,692
Speaker 20: which all centered around Harry Potter, which includes the train,

2279
01:50:04,772 --> 01:50:09,253
Speaker 20: the coach with the horses, the car, the figurines. Yeah,

2280
01:50:09,253 --> 01:50:12,612
Speaker 20: and I bought a more off eBay and my sister.

2281
01:50:12,772 --> 01:50:14,892
Speaker 20: I finally got the other one yesterday, the last one,

2282
01:50:14,893 --> 01:50:17,933
Speaker 20: which was a train, And they are going to be

2283
01:50:18,093 --> 01:50:20,932
Speaker 20: my surprises for my daughter to add to her collection

2284
01:50:21,412 --> 01:50:25,052
Speaker 20: because no matter what, she will never stop doing anything

2285
01:50:25,333 --> 01:50:26,133
Speaker 20: with Harry Potter.

2286
01:50:26,293 --> 01:50:27,852
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that's kind of good. If you know someone

2287
01:50:27,853 --> 01:50:29,812
Speaker 2: in your family that's into something, it makes it takes

2288
01:50:29,812 --> 01:50:32,173
Speaker 2: a pressure off when it comes to buying presents. Of course,

2289
01:50:32,213 --> 01:50:33,412
Speaker 2: you do turn up with the thing and they've got

2290
01:50:33,452 --> 01:50:35,812
Speaker 2: twenty five versions of it. What do people think about

2291
01:50:35,893 --> 01:50:40,253
Speaker 2: Tom Hiddleston playing Everest in the in the New The New,

2292
01:50:40,692 --> 01:50:44,692
Speaker 2: not playing Everest, playing Sir ed Min Hillary in that

2293
01:50:44,812 --> 01:50:46,932
Speaker 2: new movie ten and what is it called Tensing?

2294
01:50:47,013 --> 01:50:49,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like he'd be a good Sir Red though,

2295
01:50:49,333 --> 01:50:50,293
Speaker 4: You can kind of see it, can't you.

2296
01:50:50,412 --> 01:50:52,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. But as I've said before,

2297
01:50:53,053 --> 01:50:56,372
Speaker 2: if they change the end and Tensen gets up there before,

2298
01:50:56,372 --> 01:50:58,733
Speaker 2: sir Red, oh, they'll be held a page. I'm boycotting.

2299
01:50:58,812 --> 01:51:03,852
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Roland's you want to have a chat about

2300
01:51:03,893 --> 01:51:04,412
Speaker 4: your collection?

2301
01:51:04,532 --> 01:51:05,173
Speaker 2: Is it your collection?

2302
01:51:06,093 --> 01:51:08,893
Speaker 23: It is my collection. Yes, I've got I've got a

2303
01:51:08,973 --> 01:51:12,173
Speaker 23: Lego collection, which is nothing that reads me big, but

2304
01:51:12,213 --> 01:51:14,973
Speaker 23: you know Legos Lego. I've got a matchbox collection that

2305
01:51:15,013 --> 01:51:17,772
Speaker 23: which ranged from the seventies through about eighty five. I

2306
01:51:17,772 --> 01:51:20,173
Speaker 23: stopped buying it when the Jets topped the company over.

2307
01:51:21,452 --> 01:51:23,452
Speaker 23: But my main thing I'm quite most proud of is

2308
01:51:23,492 --> 01:51:26,732
Speaker 23: my Hornby double train set from the fifties. It's the

2309
01:51:26,772 --> 01:51:27,732
Speaker 23: old fashioned three.

2310
01:51:27,652 --> 01:51:29,812
Speaker 2: Rail one, so I take it.

2311
01:51:29,893 --> 01:51:32,932
Speaker 4: That's quite rare, is it, Roland? I'm you know knowledge

2312
01:51:33,093 --> 01:51:34,213
Speaker 4: train seats is not high.

2313
01:51:34,333 --> 01:51:37,093
Speaker 23: That is quite a rare real because it's not rare

2314
01:51:37,093 --> 01:51:39,293
Speaker 23: because I just spent some money and bought some second

2315
01:51:39,372 --> 01:51:42,253
Speaker 23: end replacement parts that I needed. There's plenty of it

2316
01:51:42,293 --> 01:51:45,572
Speaker 23: on trade me. But it is it is old. It

2317
01:51:45,692 --> 01:51:48,613
Speaker 23: is old from the fifties, which makes it somewhat collectible.

2318
01:51:48,812 --> 01:51:51,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, and how much money j rekon. Your collection is worth.

2319
01:51:52,572 --> 01:51:55,612
Speaker 23: Probably probably a couple of couple of grand cup three grand,

2320
01:51:55,652 --> 01:51:57,372
Speaker 23: depending on the on the on the buyer.

2321
01:51:57,612 --> 01:52:00,732
Speaker 4: Right, what lego pieces have you got? MAT's really into

2322
01:52:00,772 --> 01:52:03,772
Speaker 4: his lego at the moment. What's the most of my

2323
01:52:03,853 --> 01:52:06,812
Speaker 4: lego is just the loose blocks all right, Okay.

2324
01:52:06,812 --> 01:52:09,133
Speaker 23: I'm not into the seat stuff. I like, I like

2325
01:52:09,213 --> 01:52:11,853
Speaker 23: to buy the loose blox and use my own imagination.

2326
01:52:12,053 --> 01:52:14,532
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're like the that's like the moral of

2327
01:52:14,532 --> 01:52:15,293
Speaker 2: the Lego movie.

2328
01:52:15,412 --> 01:52:15,652
Speaker 12: You know.

2329
01:52:15,772 --> 01:52:17,532
Speaker 4: It's like the architect rather than just.

2330
01:52:17,532 --> 01:52:21,092
Speaker 2: Whereas I prefer to follow the instructions exactly on the

2331
01:52:21,412 --> 01:52:23,333
Speaker 2: adult technic set and then put them up on a

2332
01:52:23,333 --> 01:52:25,532
Speaker 2: shelf and if anyone even looks at them, I.

2333
01:52:25,532 --> 01:52:29,013
Speaker 4: Tas them as you should. Hey, this is interesting. Ask

2334
01:52:29,093 --> 01:52:33,093
Speaker 4: Marcus Lush about his obsession collecting folding rulers that are

2335
01:52:33,093 --> 01:52:34,452
Speaker 4: stuffed under his beard and boxes.

2336
01:52:34,893 --> 01:52:38,772
Speaker 2: Wow, that's problematic folding rulers. Yeah, I mean you get

2337
01:52:38,772 --> 01:52:40,492
Speaker 2: into that. So this is the kind of thing I'm

2338
01:52:40,532 --> 01:52:43,652
Speaker 2: talking about that needs to be And like I'm pointing

2339
01:52:43,652 --> 01:52:46,412
Speaker 2: the finger at myself as well. What are we doing?

2340
01:52:46,933 --> 01:52:49,532
Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, Tyler, when we were

2341
01:52:50,013 --> 01:52:53,492
Speaker 2: nomadic people, the homo sapien sapiens.

2342
01:52:53,133 --> 01:52:53,293
Speaker 3: We.

2343
01:52:54,933 --> 01:52:57,572
Speaker 2: Moved every day, so our positions we had to carry

2344
01:52:57,572 --> 01:52:59,372
Speaker 2: on our back every day. Yeah, And I tell you what,

2345
01:52:59,452 --> 01:53:01,652
Speaker 2: if you had to carry your positions on your back

2346
01:53:01,692 --> 01:53:04,932
Speaker 2: every day, you wouldn't have boxes and boxes of folding

2347
01:53:05,013 --> 01:53:07,172
Speaker 2: rulers stuffed under your bed, would you? You certainly wouldn't.

2348
01:53:07,253 --> 01:53:09,612
Speaker 4: And I don't know why you need all those folding rulers.

2349
01:53:09,652 --> 01:53:11,972
Speaker 4: At least your hat has some sort of practical burners.

2350
01:53:11,973 --> 01:53:14,892
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be off trekking with my two hundred

2351
01:53:14,933 --> 01:53:17,652
Speaker 2: and fifty sports hats balanced on my head, would.

2352
01:53:17,412 --> 01:53:18,532
Speaker 4: I give it a go?

2353
01:53:18,692 --> 01:53:20,812
Speaker 2: I'm sure you'd give that a go. And we are

2354
01:53:20,893 --> 01:53:23,612
Speaker 2: evolved to be nomadic, and that's why these positions they

2355
01:53:23,652 --> 01:53:25,532
Speaker 2: start to weigh us down the more we have in

2356
01:53:25,572 --> 01:53:27,253
Speaker 2: our house, and you know where you store them, and

2357
01:53:27,293 --> 01:53:30,333
Speaker 2: you've got them piling up in the cupboards and under

2358
01:53:30,333 --> 01:53:30,812
Speaker 2: your beds.

2359
01:53:30,893 --> 01:53:32,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know this is just self therapy for you

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01:53:32,973 --> 01:53:33,732
Speaker 4: at this point, doesn't it?

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01:53:33,853 --> 01:53:35,852
Speaker 2: A huge Marcus flush fan? But I can't support us

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01:53:35,853 --> 01:53:36,532
Speaker 2: folding rulers.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know why you need that many five

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01:53:38,293 --> 01:53:40,412
Speaker 4: folding rulers. You don't need one folding ruler.

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01:53:41,053 --> 01:53:43,013
Speaker 2: Says, Hey, lads, I've got a wine collection probably worth

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01:53:43,013 --> 01:53:45,652
Speaker 2: about twenty dollars, going to enjoy drinking at myself tonight.

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01:53:45,692 --> 01:53:48,333
Speaker 2: You see. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with

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01:53:48,372 --> 01:53:51,772
Speaker 2: that wine collection. You bring one in, one and one

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01:53:51,772 --> 01:53:52,572
Speaker 2: out exactly.

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01:53:52,612 --> 01:53:54,772
Speaker 4: If you've got more than five bottles of wine at home,

2371
01:53:54,853 --> 01:53:55,812
Speaker 4: you're doing something wrong.

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01:53:55,853 --> 01:53:58,572
Speaker 2: I mean five and five out. Yeah. So if you're

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01:53:58,612 --> 01:54:01,253
Speaker 2: going to be locked at every glass, every bottle should

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01:54:01,253 --> 01:54:02,612
Speaker 2: be drunk on the night it's bought. Yeah.

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01:54:03,532 --> 01:54:05,652
Speaker 4: Oh, eight, one hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the

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01:54:05,812 --> 01:54:06,452
Speaker 4: number to call.

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01:54:06,492 --> 01:54:11,612
Speaker 2: It is nine to four. Beg very shortly here on NEWSTALKSB.

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Speaker 2: Six to four.

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Speaker 22: Don, you were offered a hell of a collection, Yes,

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01:54:29,253 --> 01:54:39,573
Speaker 22: I certainly away, Don, Yeah, just try and take a

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01:54:39,613 --> 01:54:40,812
Speaker 22: step to the left of the right.

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01:54:40,933 --> 01:54:43,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. I really want to hear about this collection because

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01:54:43,253 --> 01:54:45,653
Speaker 2: it's quite impressive. But you're breaking up badly, Don, my.

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01:54:45,653 --> 01:54:49,852
Speaker 3: Friend, I'll pull over and get off the hand. Three.

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01:54:50,333 --> 01:54:56,012
Speaker 2: Okay, I would appreciate that. That's very good. Here you go, Yeah,

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01:54:56,133 --> 01:54:56,613
Speaker 2: much better.

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01:54:57,133 --> 01:55:04,653
Speaker 3: Beautiful Mazey died last year in Geneva. I was hitting

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01:55:04,853 --> 01:55:07,413
Speaker 3: over there for another reason later in the year, but

2392
01:55:07,493 --> 01:55:10,333
Speaker 3: he blew me over the business class to say goodbye.

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01:55:11,213 --> 01:55:13,413
Speaker 3: He died a week after I got home. He offered

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01:55:13,413 --> 01:55:16,052
Speaker 3: me has He's spent his whole life working in research

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01:55:16,053 --> 01:55:19,653
Speaker 3: and development at Rolex. So his personal Rolex collection was

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01:55:19,693 --> 01:55:21,012
Speaker 3: over seven hundred pieces.

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01:55:21,213 --> 01:55:23,333
Speaker 14: Wow, and who put them to me?

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01:55:24,493 --> 01:55:26,493
Speaker 3: He didn't want to leave them to roll X because

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01:55:26,493 --> 01:55:29,213
Speaker 3: they have a huge museum anyway, and he said it

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01:55:29,213 --> 01:55:31,932
Speaker 3: would just get lost in there. But I couldn't afford

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01:55:32,053 --> 01:55:35,293
Speaker 3: to look after one of them, let alone pay the

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01:55:35,333 --> 01:55:38,173
Speaker 3: insurance on all of them, or even I mean, I

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01:55:38,173 --> 01:55:39,772
Speaker 3: didn't know how the hell I'd get them back into

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01:55:39,812 --> 01:55:40,293
Speaker 3: the country.

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01:55:40,973 --> 01:55:43,533
Speaker 2: And yeah, you would. You would feel it was wrong

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01:55:43,613 --> 01:55:46,892
Speaker 2: to sell them so well, absolutely, because I mean seven

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01:55:46,973 --> 01:55:50,693
Speaker 2: hundred Rollicks watches, I mean that's I mean minimum, what

2408
01:55:50,933 --> 01:55:54,333
Speaker 2: ten thousand per watch would be the absolute minimum, right

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01:55:54,933 --> 01:55:55,293
Speaker 2: I would?

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01:55:55,812 --> 01:55:58,693
Speaker 3: You know, I've got no idea because I'm not in

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01:55:58,733 --> 01:56:04,333
Speaker 3: that class of any anything, but I imagine they'd be

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01:56:04,333 --> 01:56:09,333
Speaker 3: twenty or twenty five thousand dollars on average, you know, man,

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01:56:09,413 --> 01:56:11,133
Speaker 3: I went a lot of the day that I was born,

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01:56:11,253 --> 01:56:14,173
Speaker 3: being born where I am. I don't need them.

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01:56:14,533 --> 01:56:16,653
Speaker 2: I'm loving this. I'm loving this stitude.

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01:56:18,533 --> 01:56:22,772
Speaker 3: The kids are all set up. Money isn't the thing,

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01:56:22,893 --> 01:56:25,973
Speaker 3: you know, so I love I love my tools. I've

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01:56:26,053 --> 01:56:29,052
Speaker 3: got a good tool collection, but they've got a practical

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01:56:29,093 --> 01:56:32,772
Speaker 3: thing I can use. I would rather have the memory

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01:56:32,812 --> 01:56:35,852
Speaker 3: of knowing that Marcus was my friend.

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01:56:36,173 --> 01:56:38,772
Speaker 2: Oh mate, you're a modern day Buddher. That's a lovely

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01:56:38,812 --> 01:56:41,133
Speaker 2: way to finish. I mean, my math is a bit

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01:56:41,173 --> 01:56:43,453
Speaker 2: every year. But do you just say no to one

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01:56:43,453 --> 01:56:44,932
Speaker 2: point four million dollars with the watches?

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01:56:44,973 --> 01:56:47,533
Speaker 4: Potentially seven hundred Rolis watches. Yeah, a lot of money,

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01:56:47,573 --> 01:56:48,892
Speaker 4: but don thank you very much.

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01:56:49,213 --> 01:56:53,373
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, I agree with his sentiment. One dred percent.

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01:56:53,453 --> 01:56:55,812
Speaker 2: Joy comes not through positions or ownership, but through a

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01:56:55,893 --> 01:56:58,333
Speaker 2: wiys and loving heart. Yep, they're is asked for today.

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01:56:58,373 --> 01:56:59,972
Speaker 2: We'll do it all again next week. Yeah. The Met

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