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Speaker 2: Be Morning and welcome today. Good Tuesday. Business sales they're booming.

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Speaker 2: We're now getting more teachers into classrooms and are not

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Speaker 2: growing the rolls. Got another big renewable energy project underway

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Speaker 2: to tell you about. We'll talk to Mark Robinson, who's

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Speaker 2: handed in the old resignation at the Rugby Union captain

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Speaker 2: fielders and Europe for US and Rod Little will pomp

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Speaker 2: In and from being another country asking welcome to the day,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. Now you can see why so many

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Speaker 2: around the world's seeing New Zealand as some kind of

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Speaker 2: peaceful paradise, can't you. I mean, the numbers a arriving

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Speaker 2: here are not what they were tourism wise, and that

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Speaker 2: reputationally came from the border closure, of course, and the

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Speaker 2: made rules of the labor government. But a survey from

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Speaker 2: Europe suggesting seventy five percent of people think their country

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Speaker 2: and society is broken. You can see what a small

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Speaker 2: green paradise at the bottom of the world might be

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Speaker 2: perceived as in Germany, they've announced an urgent expansion of

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Speaker 2: public shelters. There used to be two thousands of them

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Speaker 2: in the Cold War. They are now fire one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty, many of them not operational anymore. They're upgrading

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Speaker 2: those also working on metro stations and underground garages, so

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Speaker 2: that one million can take shelter what from well currently Russia.

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Speaker 2: So the push is on for five percent of GDP

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Speaker 2: spending on defense and a spruce up of shelters for

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Speaker 2: when the bad guys come. Then in Los Angeles looks

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Speaker 2: like a hellscape at the BIMA does the Fed's roll

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Speaker 2: into town to drag a lot of illegals out and

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Speaker 2: course more complicated by the fact one a lot of

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Speaker 2: the economy is frequented by illegals doing jobs no one

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Speaker 2: else wants to do, too, a local government that's seen

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Speaker 2: the place fall apart socially because of homelessness and crime,

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Speaker 2: And three a central government that hates the local government

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Speaker 2: says very keen to send a message of toughness around

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Speaker 2: the illegals issue. How to know whether this is mainly

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Speaker 2: social or political? Are the pressures certainly on Trump to

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Speaker 2: boost the border and sort the migrant to shoe out.

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of what he promised, it hasn't happened,

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Speaker 2: so it may be convenient to do it in a

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Speaker 2: liberal state like California. Meantime, in Britain, the bill for

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Speaker 2: migrant hotels is blown out yet again, as has the

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Speaker 2: arrival numbers by boat. The other Saturday of the newest

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Speaker 2: record was over one thousand in one day from Calais alone.

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Speaker 2: They all go to hotels, and not at discounted rates.

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Speaker 2: See as troubled as bits of our place may be,

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Speaker 2: as angsty as we may get around all sorts of

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Speaker 2: different things that exercise as the National Guard are not

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Speaker 2: on the streets here. We don't have shelters, we don't

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Speaker 2: even have anyone about to invade us, and we don't

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Speaker 2: have boatloads of illegal all things considered, even if you

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Speaker 2: do think society is broken out but is holding up, Okay.

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Speaker 1: What news of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: Can we start in the aforementioned la Trump now wants

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Speaker 2: everyone with a face mask arrested, the governors suing the president.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, at the end of the day, is the

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Speaker 3: sponsor of these conditions. He needs to stand down. Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump is inflaming these conditions. This is Donald Trump's problem

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Speaker 3: right now, and if he can't solve it, we will, so.

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Speaker 2: MEI related matters. Elon's dad, Errol, who's in Russia, don't

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Speaker 2: ask has been asked about the Trump Musk bust up,

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Speaker 2: you know, stretched and so forth.

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Speaker 4: We've all been there.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's been there. Who's over twenty years old.

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Speaker 5: I've sent him several messages and he's replied to me,

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Speaker 5: don't worry, we're sorting it out.

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Speaker 2: Okay. A bit of war news War one in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East, Greta and the flotilla mates had predictably been

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Speaker 6: Greta was not bringing age, she was bringing herself. And

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Speaker 6: she's not here for Garza. Let's be blunt about it.

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Speaker 6: She's here for Greta, you know, Paul Gretta. She's been

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Speaker 6: alien ate, She's alienated half of the world with the

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Speaker 6: Crying Wolf, and now she's looking for her next bandwagon.

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Speaker 2: War II, the NATO secretary has gone to Chathamhouse pointed

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Speaker 2: out the Russians are spending quite a lot of money

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Speaker 7: Russia is really constituting. It's foruss with Chinese technology and

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Speaker 7: producing more of weapons faster than we thought. Russia produces

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Speaker 7: in three months what the Hall of NATO produces in

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: So then in Britain we got the big backdown that's

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Speaker 2: happened to ourbinight as Rachel rolls out of winter payment

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Speaker 2: for my the people she took it away from because

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Speaker 6: Our public finances are now in a better position, which.

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Speaker 8: Means that this year we're able to play the.

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Speaker 9: Winter fuel payment to more pensioners.

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Speaker 10: So nine million we'll receive it this year.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not. Rachel Bednock sees it for what it is.

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Speaker 11: We can all talk about what a new system can

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Speaker 11: look like, but the point is that liber have made

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Speaker 11: a mess and now they're having to.

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Speaker 6: Clean it up. They put a lot of people through hardship,

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Speaker 6: people having to choose between heating and eating, and that's

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Speaker 2: Now, finally we've got the US Aviation newsed thrifty Traveler,

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Speaker 2: United and Delta as in the Alliance found that they're

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Speaker 2: charging higher ticket prices for solo travelers than they are

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Speaker 2: Chicago to Peoria, which is not really a long distance flight,

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Speaker 2: it's less than three hours to drive in any way,

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Speaker 2: So since the report by Delta and United, they'd backtracked

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Speaker 2: on all of this removed the higher appears and thriftly

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Speaker 2: make sure it's not temporary. That's ne the world in

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Speaker 2: ninety chats in London will talk about that. In the moment,

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Speaker 2: the Chinese and the US are in London to try

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Speaker 2: Chinese economy, some of them good, some of them not

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Speaker 2: so good for you. In just a moment, twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: by News talks eb.

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Speaker 2: Bit of good news out of the US economy. You

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Speaker 2: New York Fed survey on consumer expectation one year inflation,

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Speaker 2: that look is down to three point two percent, so

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Speaker 2: to Mike. So London's where they're talking about it. Interesting

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Speaker 12: You're always on London, and are you just a bit

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Speaker 12: of a reminder that Chinla's got a vested interest in

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Speaker 13: So you're there.

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Speaker 12: Consumer prices down point one percent in May. Actually there's

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Speaker 12: the projection of the IMF that CPI and Chine's actually

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Speaker 12: energy prices are still weighing screwing those. CPI looks a

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Speaker 12: There's obviously the property slump, and there's also lots of

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Speaker 12: but that could easily dissipate if this uneasy truce, if

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Speaker 12: So certainly got an interest in getting these trade talks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll stand by. In Japan, they're going backwards as well.

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Speaker 2: And then we come back home yet more celebration. When

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Speaker 2: does it end? How good can it be? Those red

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Speaker 12: A yeah, absolutely, you talk about the good news stories

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Speaker 12: in New Zealand. Of course we've had the dairy sector,

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Speaker 12: but the agreece sector in general is doing well, and

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Speaker 12: of course there was a lot of fears about how

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Speaker 12: the red meat would do given Trump's tariffs and how

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Speaker 12: they would impact sales to the US. Well, in April

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Speaker 12: But to put that in context, that was a global

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Speaker 12: record for any month, and this is according to the

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Speaker 12: Meat Industry Association. So there's also reports of ingenuity there Mike,

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Speaker 12: that they're mixing sort of American beef with New Zealand

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Speaker 12: beef for hambig burger paddies. But look over all, looks

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Speaker 12: like the red meat sectors in pretty good. Nick, So

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Speaker 2: Ozzie Television not like it hasn't been well speculated on

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Speaker 2: How I lasted for one year, let alone fifteen, It's

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Speaker 2: Someone coming up, and of course the ongoing discussion around

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Speaker 16: Wait, Mikey, you don't very well.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we just we just hit a record month in May.

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Speaker 16: Yep, great question. So pretty much led by the migrants.

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Speaker 16: Good good question. What we're seeing is that people are

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Speaker 2: Though if I'm looking then all of a sudden at

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Speaker 16: Yeah, they're pretty good. I mean everyone's obviously got obviously

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Speaker 16: But it's becoming a real thing. They would people are

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Speaker 16: I'm sick of working for a big corporate. It's too

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Speaker 16: obviously going to be a better trouble Versus in corporate

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Speaker 2: If you've got a good business, a going concern, see

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Speaker 16: Look, majority of what we sell is all profitable because

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Speaker 16: There are exceptions to the rule, but to the majority

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Speaker 16: They're not going to lend to bad, bad transactions.

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Speaker 16: It's a sensible transaction. The bank's absolutely absolutely there for it.

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Speaker 2: Do you do a sauna and cold plunge every day?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 2: I know? I know everything, Chris, and and you would

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Speaker 16: it for five years and it is probably the best

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Speaker 2: Interesting numbers for you. There's been over three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty young drivers under the age of twenty five killed

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one, right others on the roads. And

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Speaker 2: keep young drivers alive. So it's been revived by the

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Speaker 2: Tony Quinn Foundation. He's a genius and he's a hero

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Speaker 2: Murphy's behind it, one hundred percent behind it in fact,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of money, as we were a moment ago, Quby

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Speaker 2: Bank have joined the throng one year four eight nine,

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Speaker 2: two year four nine five, three and six months at

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Speaker 2: five to nine. And what's happening here, and this is

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Speaker 2: where the commentary is interesting, is it's all internal competition

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Speaker 2: at the moment. So nothing's really happened externally, i e.

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Speaker 2: The RB, This is just banks scrapping for market share,

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Speaker 2: thus indicating I would have thought it. Nichola willis as listening.

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Speaker 2: There is competition among the banks anyway, until we see

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Speaker 2: something more substantive from the RB. This is about where

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Speaker 2: we're at. If we see something to break four five

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Speaker 2: they reckon four point five for a mortgage, you're going

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Speaker 2: to need to see the RB move and move substantially

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Speaker 2: next time around. That hasn't happened yet, so now it's

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Speaker 2: just internal banking competition.

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Speaker 4: Six forty five International Correspondence with Enzen Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 4: of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Captain Field, morning to you. Good morning mate. So I

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Speaker 2: noticed that Rutter was at Chathamhouse and talking about the

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Speaker 2: expenditure and how we all need to pay more for defense.

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Speaker 2: And we've got the NATO meetings, So this sort of

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Speaker 2: building up to a head of steam here.

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Speaker 10: We're right at the start of quite a few summits

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Speaker 10: make because don't forget, of course, we've got the G

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Speaker 10: seven summit in Canada coming up in a week. We've

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Speaker 10: then got the NATO summit in the Hague the week

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Speaker 10: after that, so we're really looking at these high stakes summits,

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Speaker 10: which we're going to, of course have US President Donald

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Speaker 10: Trump coming along to that and having his say about

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Speaker 10: how the Western allis should be acting. The big one,

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Speaker 10: of course is that NATO summit a critical moment for

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Speaker 10: global security. We've got Trump unpredictable. We've here in Europe

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Speaker 10: got fears that the US could sort of militarily disengage

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Speaker 10: from Europe, perhaps even start pulling out as they pivot

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Speaker 10: more towards Asia. So that is exactly what Rutta is

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Speaker 10: saying today. He's saying, you know what, you can wish

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Speaker 10: all you like, but wishful thinking, we'll not keep safe.

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Speaker 10: He said, you can't dream this danger away. What he's

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Speaker 10: proposing is that NATO members, all thirty two of them,

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Speaker 10: move very quickly to that two percent GDP spenditure on defense,

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Speaker 10: and then by twenty thirty that two percent of GDP

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Speaker 10: moves up to five percent, so it will be about

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Speaker 10: three and a half percent on military expenditure. And here's

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Speaker 10: the other interesting new but Mike, one point five percent

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Speaker 10: for defense related items. So that would be you know, bridges, roads, airfields, seaports,

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Speaker 10: things like that, which he says, you know, and of

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Speaker 10: course also which we've seen in Ukraine in the last

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Speaker 10: what six or seven months, you know, Europe has got

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Speaker 10: to start thinking more about long range missiles and drones.

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Speaker 10: And one of the big things he said was when

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Speaker 10: it comes to ammunition, Russia produces in three months what

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Speaker 10: the whole of NATO produces in a year.

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Speaker 2: It's funny businesses. And I mentioned earlier on in the

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Speaker 2: programs reading a piece out of Germany yesterday, and they're

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Speaker 2: refurbing some of those underground bunkers, underground garages and stuff.

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Speaker 2: How angsty is Europe, you know, genuinely angsty that Russian's

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Speaker 2: going further than Ukraine and we need to you know,

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Speaker 2: refurbish underground bunkers there is you know.

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Speaker 10: It kind of gets more angsty the closer to Russia

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Speaker 10: you get. If you talk to defense experts, say in

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Speaker 10: the Baltic States, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, I mean, they're really nervous. Finland,

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Speaker 10: of course you join NATO, which no one thought it

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Speaker 10: would do, same as Sweden. So they're really angsty because

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Speaker 10: they see that the Russian bear is angry. They've seen

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Speaker 10: that there was no pulling back after that big Ukrainian

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Speaker 10: operation in Russia last week where they knocked out all

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Speaker 10: these military aircraft.

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Speaker 2: They are really worried.

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Speaker 10: Certainly when you hear what the French are saying about

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Speaker 10: the need for the nuclear deterrent to be up to speed,

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Speaker 10: the question of sharing nuclear de terrant, it is pretty

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Speaker 10: angsty and there's nothing to to make them think otherwise

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Speaker 10: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of get together as marine, Lapin's been holding a

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Speaker 2: you know, a little gathering of the like mind and

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Speaker 2: does that achieve She's not in I mean Salbini, I

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Speaker 2: guess isn't power and stuff to what does this achieve?

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Speaker 10: Well, it shows not just for Marine Lapenn but also

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Speaker 10: for aubound from Hungary and Salveni. It shows that they're

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Speaker 10: a united front. They're all They're meeting just south of Paris,

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Speaker 10: have been meeting all day. They've got some six thousand

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Speaker 10: of their supporters down there, and it's showing that these

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Speaker 10: are friends across Europe, they've got friends in the US

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Speaker 10: and the Trump administration, and that their influence is that

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Speaker 10: is really growing. That's essentially the message they want.

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Speaker 2: To give out.

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Speaker 10: They're saying that, of course the ninth of June is

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Speaker 10: victory day for them, because it was ninth of June

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Speaker 10: last year the European elections that saw Mahine Leapin's party

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Speaker 10: do so well in the European parliamentary elections. And of

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Speaker 10: course it was a day since just like yesterday, but

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Speaker 10: it was a year ago that French presidents Emanuel Maccron

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Speaker 10: dissolve Parliament, which of course led to Marine Leapenn and

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Speaker 10: her party having such a big say in French politics.

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Speaker 2: Always good to have you on the program, Katayin Catherine

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Speaker 2: Field out of France FORERRUS this morning.

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Speaker 1: It is ten to seven the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Robinson yesterday's off to join his family in Australia, so

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Speaker 2: they're looking for a new CEO of course, so he's

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Speaker 2: with us on the program. Shawn Johnson too, looking for

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Speaker 2: to catch up life post league and how he must

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Speaker 2: be enjoying Metcalf and the team at the moment. So

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Speaker 2: he's with us after right, Mike just spoke. He just

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Speaker 2: spoke about street Smart. When you go to the website,

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Speaker 2: it's property management, not driving for teenagers. Well that's because

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Speaker 2: you've gone to the wrong website. It is street smart

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So how are we doing at the moment? How are

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Speaker 2: we feeling economically? The number of this making withdrawals from

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Speaker 2: Kiwi Saber for the hardship that's up. Total amount withdrawn

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Speaker 2: is up, So that's an indication that times are type

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Speaker 2: for some inland revenue number show this is between July

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Speaker 2: of last year. By the way, in April of this year,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety million was withdrawn for hardship reasons.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred ninety million. That's increased from three hundred million

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Speaker 2: the year before. So three hundred to three ninety three

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Speaker 2: ninety is going to forty four thousand people, which is

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Speaker 2: up from thirty two thousand, five hundred some more people

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Speaker 2: getting more money. Now what that means is if you'll

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Speaker 2: say thirty five as an age, we're twenty two k

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Speaker 2: in the Kiwi Saber, and you take out twenty by

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Speaker 2: the time you sixty five, you're going to have seventy

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Speaker 2: four thousand dollars less than your account. So the consequential

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Speaker 2: decisions you're making. But and this is where some of

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Speaker 2: the drama around this needs to be put in some

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Speaker 2: sort of context. There are, of course three point three

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Speaker 2: to three million of us in Kiwi Saber. So how

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Speaker 2: many is that pulling money on hardship one point three percent,

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Speaker 2: So in other words, ninety eight point seventy fine, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, So let's not you know, can get

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Speaker 2: overly carried away about that. Then I come to my

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Speaker 2: favorite set of numbers for the morning from MB and

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Speaker 2: this is all sorts of interesting about income and the

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Speaker 2: cost of a mortgage in various parts of the country,

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Speaker 2: depending on where you live. Northland, for example, Northland, you

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Speaker 2: got well. I mean the headline would be eleven percent

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Speaker 2: of the population are on job seeker, so you think,

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Speaker 2: what a dump? What's going wrong? You know a lot

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Speaker 2: of people with no work in Northland, and yet the

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Speaker 2: average household incomes one hundred and twenty three thousand, nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: Le's call one hundred and twenty four thousand dollars. Forty

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Speaker 2: eight percent of your median income is servicing a mortgage.

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Speaker 2: You go to a place like Auckland, are you're earning

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Speaker 2: on average household income one hundred and fifty five GDP

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Speaker 2: per capita is eighty eight point three, but you're paying

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Speaker 2: half your money on your mortgage. Why would you want

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Speaker 2: to live in orcs if you can't afford to live

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Speaker 2: in Aukland? Where you living in Auckland? Because there are

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Speaker 2: so many bitter places around the country where you can

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Speaker 2: earn more and the cost of living's cheap. For hawks

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Speaker 2: Bay average incomes one hundred and fifty it's about the

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Speaker 2: same as Auckland, so you're in the same amount of

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Speaker 2: money on average in Hawks Bay and the weekly rents

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Speaker 2: six hundred and seventy dollars GDP per capita sixty five

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars, So you're doing better in a place like

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Speaker 2: Hawk's Bay and dere I suggest the fruit's nicer because

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Speaker 2: it's grown locally. Wellington one hundred and sixty two thousand. Mind,

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Speaker 2: you got to live in Wellington. Yes, you're inning a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, big money in Wellington because you'll work

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Speaker 2: for the government. But you've got to know you've got

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Speaker 2: to be in Wellington. Unemployment's four point eight percent, so

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Speaker 2: despite all the noise around the government laying all the

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Speaker 2: people off, it's not actually a bad number. Canterbury Boom

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Speaker 2: Time second best regional economic performance of courses you would

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Speaker 2: expect average income in Canterbury's one hundred and thirty two

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Second. Now, this is the thing about these numbers.

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Speaker 2: Second most optimistic in the country Canterbury. So that's not

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Speaker 2: a surprise. Do you know what the most optimistic region

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Speaker 2: in the country is Auckland. Explain that to me. How

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Speaker 2: do you do it? But Otago go in one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty two thousand dollars. In Otago, you're laughing, or

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Speaker 2: if you want to laugh even more, go in an

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Speaker 2: average one hundred and eleven thousand dollars in Southland and

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Speaker 2: it will only take twenty nine percent of your income

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Speaker 2: to serve us and mortgage, so you're earning good money.

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Speaker 2: Your mortgage costs next to nothing because you're cost of

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Speaker 2: your house and gdpeople at Captain is eighty three point

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Speaker 2: six and that'll leave the Deary of course. So there's

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Speaker 2: lots of different places in New Zealand, and there are

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Speaker 2: lots of people in this country that could do whatever

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Speaker 2: they do anywhere they want if they wanted to move.

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Speaker 2: So why so many people apart themselves in Auklanne They

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Speaker 2: got no real idea Teachers. More good news on teachers.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of income, let me tell you about the income

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Speaker 2: for teachers in just a couple of moments. But we've

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Speaker 2: got some very good news around teachers. The Education Minister

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Speaker 2: with us next.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: my casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate. Your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be only seven to past seven from our numbers.

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Speaker 2: Don't lie file good news from education as we find

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Speaker 2: out we have more teachers entering schools than in the

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Speaker 2: past twenty years. So the workforce has grown by eighteen

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Speaker 2: hundred last year, largest year on year increase since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and nine, that's when records began. Education Minister Erica

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Speaker 2: Stamford's with us morning, come on, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen hundred and sixty four in total eleven twenty eight

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Speaker 2: and primary seven thirty six secondary. Is that balanced? Is

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Speaker 2: that sort of what we need?

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Speaker 9: That is sort of what we need, and it is

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Speaker 9: starting to plug a gap. And you know, we're creating

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Speaker 9: this world leading education system people want to be a

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Speaker 9: part of. We do have a shortage of primary and

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Speaker 9: secondary school teachers, and I think that these numbers are

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Speaker 9: starting to arrest that decline and more people are wanting

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Speaker 9: to get into education to change lives.

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Speaker 2: What's changed, Well, there's.

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Speaker 9: A number of factors that have changed, but I mean, essentially,

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Speaker 9: teachers want to go into teaching right to change lives,

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Speaker 9: and we are helping them to do that. We've got

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Speaker 9: a world leading curriculum, all of the incredible resources for

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Speaker 9: free that go along with it, all of this amazing

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Speaker 9: world leading professional learning and development, and just announce this

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Speaker 9: huge learning support package and that has certainly helped. Look

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Speaker 9: on top of that, we've invested really heavily into on

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Speaker 9: site training programs, We're paying teacher fees. You know, there's

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Speaker 9: a number of things that have gone into making this

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Speaker 9: a profession that people want to go into. We're really

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Speaker 9: focused on making sure that we're talking up how incredible

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Speaker 9: it is to be a teacher and to change lives.

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Speaker 9: But I think a big part of it is all

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Speaker 9: of the resourcing that's going in at the moment.

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Speaker 2: What's the breakdown at locals v immigrants and does it matter?

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Speaker 9: Look, I certainly want to grow our own. We know

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Speaker 9: that last year we had a substantial increase, just over

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Speaker 9: six point three percent increase in young people studying at

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Speaker 9: initial teacher education. This year, this is just provisional figures

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Speaker 9: so far, it's a twenty seven percent increase. So we

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Speaker 9: are seeing more and more young people choosing to go

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Speaker 9: into education and be part of this world leading education system.

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Speaker 9: But we are bolstering the numbers, of course by overseas teachers.

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Speaker 9: Then we have to do that at the moment and

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Speaker 9: we probably will continue to need to do into the

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Speaker 9: future as well.

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Speaker 2: If you gave the numbers for the average income for

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Speaker 2: a teacher. Do you think most people, like my good

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Speaker 2: self would be surprised at the figures?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 9: Duh it Now when I ask people what do you

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Speaker 9: think it is, they always guess a lot lower, which

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Speaker 9: I think is telling. But the numbers are. You know,

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Speaker 9: it is a tough job, and we do expect a

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Speaker 9: huge amount of our teachers, and they are changing lives,

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Speaker 9: and so we need to be making sure we're paying

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Speaker 9: them more every single pay round, which we've committed to do.

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Speaker 9: But I don't think most people do know what the

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Speaker 9: average teacher.

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Speaker 2: Is on ninety four for a primary teacher, average one

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Speaker 2: hundred and one for a secondary teacher a principal at

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Speaker 2: secondary two hundred thousand dollars. That's serious money.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, and and they work extraordinarily hard for that

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Speaker 9: and they do an amazing job.

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Speaker 2: Good. Well, I'm glad we're getting somewhere. We're on a

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Speaker 2: path here, Erica. Do you think we are?

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Speaker 9: And Mike, I've been overseas and I have been the

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Speaker 9: Minister's of Education from all around the world come up

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Speaker 9: to me. They know what we're doing, they're watching what

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Speaker 9: we're doing. We are world leading in our curriculum and

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Speaker 9: in our resourcing and our shifts in the way that

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Speaker 9: we're teaching to that explicit structured learning. People are watching us.

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Speaker 9: It is world leading and it's exciting to be a.

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Speaker 2: Part of good. All right, Nice to talk to your

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Education at Erica Stamford. Remember those words next

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Speaker 2: time you hear a unionist on the news. Ten minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven PASKI report from the Ministerial Advisory Group on

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Speaker 2: Organized Crime. This is the third one. Turns out we're

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Speaker 2: not as free of corruption as we might think. There's

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Speaker 2: a warning around bribery and coercion of police and immigration officials.

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Speaker 2: Now Steve Simon, of course, is the chair of this

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Speaker 2: Ministerial Advisory Group and he's back with us. Morning.

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Speaker 18: Good morning to you mate.

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Speaker 2: This growing body of evidence quote unquote that you find,

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Speaker 2: what is it?

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Speaker 18: It's from everywhere. What we're seeing is talking to the

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Speaker 18: most senior officials in our government enforcement agencies. We're talking

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Speaker 18: to former gang members, we're talking to frontline staff. Everywhere

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Speaker 18: we look. We're seeing this problem of organized crime, and

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Speaker 18: we're seeing it seep into all areas of business which

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Speaker 18: deal with the potential for drugs coming into the country.

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Speaker 2: A corrupt nation or is that going over the top.

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Speaker 18: We are a country that's become in corrupt. We were

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Speaker 18: proudly the number one country in the world in terms

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Speaker 18: of the least amount of corruption. We've dropped down to

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Speaker 18: number four, and we're unfortunately trending in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 18: But more than that, I think what we're seeing is

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Speaker 18: we used to be a country where I think we

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Speaker 18: genuinely could trust one another to keep up the values

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Speaker 18: of our country, and sadly, I think it's being eroded.

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Speaker 2: When we use the word corruption, are you sure of

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Speaker 2: what you're onto? In other words, when you talk to

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Speaker 2: an XT gang member and they're going to god knows

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Speaker 2: what they're going to say, So you're confident of what

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Speaker 2: you're discovering here that we are increasingly corrupt.

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Speaker 18: Yes, If we talked to most senior officials and the

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Speaker 18: police and customs and we ask them of the large

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Speaker 18: scale drug importations, of the large scale legal tobacco importations,

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Speaker 18: how many of them involve a corrupt official? It is

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Speaker 18: by far the vast majority of those cases. Wow, the

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Speaker 18: organized crime could not work in New Zealand without the

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Speaker 18: benefit of corrupt insiders.

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Speaker 2: Is it on the inside of the border. In other words,

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Speaker 2: I can see the port, the airport, I get all

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Speaker 2: of that. I see the Pacific, But beyond that are

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Speaker 2: we corrupt internally? So to speak.

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Speaker 18: It's a very good point, Mike. It starts at the border,

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Speaker 18: but we are now seeing it trending into immigration advisors,

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Speaker 18: into lawyers, into accountants, into police officials, and so what

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Speaker 18: we're seeing is it's starting to follow a trend which

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Speaker 18: we're seen in other countries around the world, where it

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Speaker 18: begins at your ports, because it's the most valuable and

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Speaker 18: it works into all levels of organization of our nation.

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Speaker 2: These reports, your third one, now that you're handing to

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Speaker 2: Minister Costello, her eyes bulging out of her head yet

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Speaker 2: or did she sort of know this anyway?

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Speaker 18: A bit of both. I think for anyone, anyone who's

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Speaker 18: been doing this a long time, you expect the problem

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Speaker 18: to be bad. Minister Castelle obviously had a long career

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Speaker 18: in the police, and so she knows some of the

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Speaker 18: depth of the problem. But I think either for myself

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Speaker 18: as a prosecutor for two decades, even I'm surprised at

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Speaker 18: some of the stories we are hearing and the gravity

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Speaker 18: of the problem as it is now.

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Speaker 2: All right, sobering, good to maybe on we'll get you

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Speaker 2: on for a report. Number four Steve Simon, chair of

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Speaker 2: the Ministerial Advisory Group. Could be the education feedbacks piling

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Speaker 2: and we'll have some of that shortly, but we need

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Speaker 2: to get to tourism. Another announcement, many more millions into

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Speaker 2: it yesterday to try and get us back to where

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Speaker 2: we once were. Give you the detail shortly fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: seven more money for tourism. Of course, we've got another

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Speaker 2: thirteen and a half million. This will target visitors from Australia,

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Speaker 2: the US and China. They're wanting seventy two thousand visitors

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Speaker 2: in return for the thirteen and a half million, and

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Speaker 2: they're thinking three hundred million dollars in spending. So those

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Speaker 2: numbers add up. Grant Webster is the boss of course

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Speaker 2: of tourism, holdings back with us. Grant morning to you,

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Speaker 2: good morning. So this is the second tranch they've announced.

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Speaker 2: Are you liking what you're seeing. Is this the way

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Speaker 2: to go?

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Speaker 13: Oh one hundred percent. Look, this is the most ambitious

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Speaker 13: government we've had from a tourism perspective for probably, you know,

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Speaker 13: eight years. So yeah, we're really buoyed by the opportunity

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Speaker 13: to help grow the economy.

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Speaker 2: It's going to go to spend. Will they come?

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Speaker 13: I think absolutely. I think we've got to remember, I

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Speaker 13: think I've said this to you before. We're very, very

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Speaker 13: competitive on a global basis. Right We've got to keep

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Speaker 13: up with Australia that's got more air capacity, that's looking

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Speaker 13: really cheap right now. And here's a good marketing proposition

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Speaker 13: as well. So we need to spend to keep up.

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Speaker 2: And do the numbers add up? If you spend thirteen

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Speaker 2: and a half million on seventy two thousand people, do

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Speaker 2: they spend three hundred million dollars?

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Speaker 13: Look, I think on the dollar pervis that has spent. Absolutely,

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Speaker 13: we're seeing that trend and that's the right way to go.

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Speaker 13: The question is can we get enough air capacity into

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Speaker 13: New Zealand textually those number of people through And the

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Speaker 13: answer is should be able to. It's looking tight for

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Speaker 13: the next twelve months, so that's probably something else we

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Speaker 13: need the government to help look at again overseas, Australia's

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Speaker 13: investing tremendous amounts of money getting new capacity in new

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Speaker 13: ecpacity equals great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do we have a regionality problem that you've got

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Speaker 2: some sort of magic answer to. I mean, Queenstown's booming

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Speaker 2: the sum of the rest of the country isn't What

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Speaker 2: do we do about that or do we need to

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Speaker 2: do anything at all? Or it is what it is.

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Speaker 13: Look, it is what it is to an extent. But

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Speaker 13: the market will rectify that, right so that the airlines

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Speaker 13: will move to the different regions. The marketing will push

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Speaker 13: to the different regions. You've got the North Island initiative

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Speaker 13: where a number of the regions are coming together, so

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Speaker 13: that the market will make that shift. I'm quite confident

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Speaker 13: that over a short period of.

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Speaker 2: Time, good are you bullish?

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Speaker 13: Generally for Australia and New Zealand, tourisms.

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Speaker 2: Lifetimes, travel, aeroplanes, people spend the whole kit kabool.

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Speaker 13: They want to Absolutely, people still want to. Right, we

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Speaker 13: have still got a COVID hangover where we're not even

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Speaker 13: back to one hundred percent of the visitor numbers that

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Speaker 13: we had pre COVID. We will get there. It's a

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Speaker 13: growth opportunity for the economy.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, grump, nice to have you on the programs.

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Speaker 2: Almost grant Webster tourism holdings with us this morning. Mike's

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Speaker 2: so brilliant to hear an excited, competent minister totally on

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Speaker 2: top of a portfolio, Mike, mid thirties Here, lots of

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Speaker 2: my mates are getting into teaching as their current industries

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Speaker 2: the job, Mike, world leading. Our results are not world leading.

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Speaker 2: I think you're missing the point there. She's been in

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Speaker 2: The results aren't in yet, they will be if we're

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Speaker 2: twenty four. The problem with committing to things that may

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Speaker 2: well come back to haunt you is down the track.

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Speaker 2: At some point the mistake starts to hit you in

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Speaker 2: the face of bit and some hard decisions are required.

904
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Speaker 2: Now my sense of it, as we've become too reliant

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Speaker 2: on pine trees to meet Paris as in the a court.

906
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Speaker 2: Now the sheep farmers you might have noticed this week,

907
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: have worked that out as the protests around land conversion

908
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: are once again been reignited, with posters up around the

909
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Speaker 2: countryside put up by the meat and woolfolk, with the

910
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Speaker 2: line on the posters saying I am not the problem.

911
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Speaker 2: Since nineteen eighty two. Here's some fun facts for you.

912
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Speaker 2: Since nineteen eighty two, we've gone from seventy million sheep

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Speaker 2: to twenty five. In the last seven years a quarter

914
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Speaker 2: of a million hectares have been swapped from sheep to trees. This,

915
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Speaker 2: of course, was always going to happen. What's the easiest way?

916
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Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what's the easiest way to meet a target

917
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: on carbon trees? Cutting and slashing, whether it's farm production

918
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Speaker 2: or the economy in general, was never going to be palatable.

919
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Speaker 2: So trees were easy. But you might have noticed. A

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00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: couple of major things have happened. One, Paris looks increasingly

921
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Speaker 2: shaking in terms of people meeting targets, indeed people even

922
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Speaker 2: being interested in meeting targets. And two, stuff grown on

923
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: the land with legs is fetching very, very very good

924
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Speaker 2: money all over the world. At the moment, as far

925
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Speaker 2: as us earning a living goes, we have never made

926
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Speaker 2: more from farming. Carbon offsetting, which is what planting trees

927
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Speaker 2: is called, has restrictions. In other countries. They only let

928
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Speaker 2: you do it to a limited degree. Here you can

929
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Speaker 2: do it as much as you want, but I bet

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Speaker 2: you anything you want. Other countries aren't as reliant on

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Speaker 2: sheep and cows as we are. We used to have tourism,

932
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Speaker 2: as you've just heard, We used to have tourism back

933
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Speaker 2: us up. But last week's numbers tell a very sad story.

934
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Speaker 2: Dairy twenty billion, tourism twelve awful comes in at nine.

935
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Speaker 2: For God's sake, tourism used to vie for first place.

936
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Speaker 2: Hence the government, as we've just mentioned, through another thirteen

937
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Speaker 2: millionaire it yesterday to try and attrack these seventy thousand people.

938
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Speaker 2: Trees also kill communities. Farming as life a forest isn't

939
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Speaker 2: as laudable as Paris was all those years ago. If

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Speaker 2: we had thought about it, if we'd been less evangelical,

941
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Speaker 2: we might have stopped to think just what it was

942
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Speaker 2: we were asking of a small economy. And the simple

943
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: truth is we were asking so much. A quick short

944
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: cut like trees was always going to be adopted with alacrity.

945
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Speaker 2: Saving the planet as people get tossed off the land

946
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Speaker 2: is not an equation we should be proud of. As

947
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Speaker 2: the protest poster says with a photo of the sheep

948
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Speaker 2: on it, I am not the problem, and they're right.

949
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Speaker 2: The zalots are pasking I lived in Auckland or my life, Mike,

950
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: it's turned into a you know what hole. I want

951
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: to move to Central Otarga to get as far away

952
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: as I can. We'll do it. Go get into it,

953
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Speaker 2: life short, Mike. These regional average incomes surprise me. They are,

954
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Speaker 2: as you say, very good. I wonder how many of

955
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: those work remotely or commute back to Auckland based businesses.

956
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't really matter. You earn what you earn, isn't it, Mike?

957
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: Where are you getting these numbers from? I knew that

958
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: would happen where are you getting these numbers from? Heaven forbid?

959
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: We present So I'm getting the numbers from envy, from

960
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: the ministry, from the government. These are people who pay

961
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Speaker 2: out the numbers. They don't make the numbers up. And

962
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Speaker 2: you're giving me most of my friends, I know it.

963
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: Don't give me the most of my friends. Some of

964
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Speaker 2: us know some people, some of us know other people.

965
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Speaker 2: Averages or averages, those are the averages. There's no reason

966
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: to disbelieve that Mike teachers pay great news to hear

967
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: teachers have been recognized for the work they do. It's

968
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: definitely not nine to three, many work weekends as well

969
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: more children with diverse needs and low support from outside agencies. No,

970
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: there's no question about that teachers work exceedingly hard. I'm

971
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Speaker 2: on the losing side of the argument that great teachers

972
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: have always been great, and they deserve much, much, much

973
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Speaker 2: more money than they actually get, and some of the

974
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: poor teachers don't deserve as much. But that whole you know,

975
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Speaker 2: you earn what you pay, and you pay what you

976
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: earn argument seems to have been lost as the union

977
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: swamp us all with a one size fits all model.

978
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Mark Robinson he has decided after six or seven years.

979
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Speaker 2: He's off to Australia and his time at the New

980
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby Union is over as of the end of

981
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: this year. We have a talk about that after the news,

982
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Speaker 2: which is next. You're on the make Hosking just.

983
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

984
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News, togs

985
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Speaker 1: Head be.

986
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: Not one of these renewable power stories are Loadstone Energy

987
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: yesterday announced that this is Tamuka in the South Island,

988
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: of course in Canterbury, that they're going big on the solar.

989
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: So that's that's their first solo as far as I know.

990
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: So part of this unfolding an ongoing story. Shortly twenty

991
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: three minutes away from Make now the resignation from New

992
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: Center Rugby of CEO Marc Robinson I got made public yesterday.

993
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Of course he'll see out the year then he's off

994
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: to Australia. So the six Robinson years, what did we get?

995
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: Mike Robinson is with us. Very good morning to you boy.

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Speaker 17: Mike.

997
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: Was there a moment or has it sort of been

998
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: building to this?

999
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 8: I think it is, I said yesterday, with the family

1000
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Speaker 8: being based in Australia now for the last few months, probably.

1001
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Speaker 16: In the last one or two months.

1002
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 8: Certainly turn of mind to thinking about dealing with him

1003
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 8: more and and then that combined with when I look

1004
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 8: ahead at the role, these next six months are really

1005
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 8: critical for the role on the international stage and domestically,

1006
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 8: we have the opportunity to reset our financial model here

1007
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 8: in New Zealand we've talked a lot about over the

1008
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 8: last few years, and then we're heavily involved in the

1009
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 8: establishment of the international calendars and competitions. So I'd love

1010
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 8: to think that by the end of the year those

1011
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 8: two things to sign off. And I just feel that

1012
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 8: the combination of those things, two things together might mean

1013
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 8: it's time to move.

1014
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did your family end up in Australia. I

1015
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: don't want to get to a person. I'm just interested,

1016
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: that's all because it's been a thing. It's been a

1017
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: theme in this country, hasn't it, People moving offshore?

1018
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 19: It does seem to be.

1019
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, look, you know, my eldest went off to

1020
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Speaker 8: university there not long ago, and then my second ended

1021
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Speaker 8: up the inn. Our youngest and my wife have ended

1022
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Speaker 8: up there. I don't want to get into too much details.

1023
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Speaker 8: So essentially, yeah, it's a combination really of education and

1024
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Speaker 8: opportunities and.

1025
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Speaker 13: Lifestyle.

1026
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 8: I suppose as it relates to my kids and wife and.

1027
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Speaker 2: Seeing them.

1028
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 8: You know, I'm only seeing them every four to five

1029
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 8: weeks at the moment, that's suboptimal in terms of, you know,

1030
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 8: how we want to live our family life. So I'm

1031
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 8: looking forward to being with them full time from sort

1032
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Speaker 8: of January Februy onwards.

1033
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Speaker 2: Have you got a plan?

1034
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Speaker 8: No, Look, I'm really I really focused on what the

1035
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 8: next six months has for us, and it's an incredible

1036
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 8: opportunity for the game here and internationally. I dare say,

1037
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 8: you know, when the time gets closer to the end

1038
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Speaker 8: of the year, I might open my mind a bit

1039
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Speaker 8: more to it. There's yeah, they sent me in the

1040
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Speaker 8: last twenty four hours. Been overwhelmed by the messages that

1041
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 8: have come in, you know, internationally and from different parts

1042
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 8: of the world, and you know, some of those may

1043
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Speaker 8: lead to things or not, but at the moment I'm

1044
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Speaker 8: not too worried about that.

1045
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: That's nice. So we've talked twice, I figured in the

1046
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: last month. Once was on sponsorship and once was on

1047
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: you guys losing money. What's that tell us about our

1048
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 2: time under you, I think.

1049
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 8: A desire to acknowledge that the game needed change and

1050
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 8: to work really hard towards implementing that change. And the

1051
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Speaker 8: change was centered largely on the game modernizing and being

1052
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 8: more focused on the fans, more focused on participants as

1053
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 8: it relates to community, and trying to rapidly adapt the

1054
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 8: sport while keeping one foot I guess in the legacy

1055
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 8: and history of the game and the things that we

1056
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 8: all love about our sport that have made it so

1057
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 8: special here, but acknowledging we simply have to evolve as

1058
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 8: a modern sporting organization and code for that matter. And look,

1059
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Speaker 8: some of that stuff's gone, you know really well, Mike,

1060
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Speaker 8: and I'm Trudi to be proud about it. Some of

1061
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Speaker 8: it certainly had challenges in terms of working through those

1062
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 8: processes because we were looking to change so rapidly. And

1063
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Speaker 8: I think the other thing I'd probably add to that

1064
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Speaker 8: was the COVID time. I reflected yesterday with p I'm

1065
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 8: just so incredibly proud as I look back and think

1066
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Speaker 8: about how we got through that as probably one of

1067
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Speaker 8: the most lockdown countries in the world where sport and

1068
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 8: entertainment was affected massively and we've come through that with

1069
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 8: really impressive revenue growth. We've invested in all levels of

1070
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Speaker 8: the game. We've led the world in a number of

1071
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 8: different areas as it relates to player welfare and brain

1072
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Speaker 8: and concussion research. We've led conversations on international calendars, and

1073
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Speaker 8: we've seen, you know, right through to the community game.

1074
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Speaker 8: We've started to see the progress of participation numbers coming

1075
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 8: right up, and we've led there as well as it

1076
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 8: relates to four match trials. The need to really be

1077
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 8: progressive in that space too. So, you know, all of

1078
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 8: those things I'm incredibly proud of, and you know, I

1079
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Speaker 8: just want to make sure I stay focused on this

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Speaker 8: next six months because hopefully I can look back then

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Speaker 8: with a couple of other big projects tacked off.

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Speaker 2: There's two ways of looking at the COVID period. One,

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Speaker 2: you dealt with what you were, you know, handed, and

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Speaker 2: you handled it. You would argue, well, the other way

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Speaker 2: to look at it, did it have to be as

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Speaker 2: restrictive as it was? And therefore were you hobbled more

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Speaker 2: than you needed to be?

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Speaker 8: You mean by the restrictions that were put in place? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: well that's you know, I think there were debate about

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Speaker 8: that for a long long time. We certainly worked with

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Speaker 8: the government as much as we could through that time

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Speaker 8: to get you know, as much rugby played and as

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Speaker 8: much movement of our people into environments where they could play.

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Speaker 8: And you know, it's well documented to are reasons why

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Speaker 8: that didn't happen sometimes, but I think we worked the

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Speaker 8: best we possibly could with the hand we were dealt.

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Speaker 2: The Kirk comments the other day about participation being the

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Speaker 2: really big issue for your sport, as you right, just.

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Speaker 8: Look at a foundational level in terms of the future

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Speaker 8: of the game. The you know, the more people you've

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Speaker 8: got coming in the base of the game and the

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Speaker 8: pipeline at the bottom, the more people you've got engaged

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Speaker 8: in the sport as potential future for athletes and fans

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Speaker 8: of the game. So yes, an absolutely critical level. The

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Speaker 8: more the more people we have actively thinking about the

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Speaker 8: game and connected to the better. So it's certainly a

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Speaker 8: key plank of our strategy. When we look at our strategy,

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Speaker 8: these really three key parts. One is the area that

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Speaker 8: David talked about in terms of the base of the

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Speaker 8: pyramid of the game too, is winning on the international stage.

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Speaker 8: It drives so much value and free is how we

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Speaker 8: think with fans domestically in overseas, because that drives the

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Speaker 8: value and the revenue growth that we're starting to see

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Speaker 8: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I've got Crusaders Chiefs in the final, with the Crusaders

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Speaker 2: to win. That about right, you would?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't like to show my bis is

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Speaker 8: too often and these settings might but I look, I

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Speaker 8: think it could go either way, and I'll sit on

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Speaker 8: the fence again on this one. But I know I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't be surprised to see any number of finals mession at.

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Speaker 8: It's in an awesome competition, hasn't it. And I think

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Speaker 8: that's another thing where we're proud of we've led, you know,

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Speaker 8: the change of the product you know, internationally, and we're

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Speaker 8: starting to see that in the last couple of of

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Speaker 8: Super Special this year, and we're really proud of what

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Speaker 8: the entertainment factor of the sport looks like at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, We'll go well and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: before you leave. I'm sure. Mark Robinson, the outgoing New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby CEO, in a moment one of the more

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Speaker 2: fascinating pieces I've read, probably in several weeks, about how

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Speaker 2: the outside see New Zealand. And that's regards Robinson leaving

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Speaker 2: for Australia. Not everyone's leaving for Australia. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people are coming into New Zealand. So more on that

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Speaker 2: in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen two good the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen away from h so Liz Rolison writes

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Speaker 2: for The Daily Telegraph yesterday we swap the UK for

1140
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Speaker 2: New Zealand and feel better off already now. Brits in

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Speaker 2: the year to December fifty six hundred Brits arrived in

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Speaker 2: the country, but forty five hundred left, so that's a

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Speaker 2: gain of what eleven hundred and the increase in outbound

1144
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Speaker 2: moves this year so far for twenty four which worries me.

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Speaker 2: They report a notable shift away. This is John Mason

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Speaker 2: International Report, a notable shipped away from Auckland more British

1147
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Speaker 2: migrants choosing Christius Wellington Hamilton. So that's fine. So if

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Speaker 2: we spread people around the country, that's all the better anyway.

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Speaker 2: The article focuses on Robert and sabrema Eaton, who came

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Speaker 2: to us from Chippingham and Wiltshire and They landed in

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Speaker 2: the Fungi Parah, which is on the mighty High Biscus

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Speaker 2: Coast north of Auckland, and they were on holiday in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. They liked the scenery, they liked the culture,

1154
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Speaker 2: they liked the people, so they decided to move here.

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Speaker 2: Top tip, don't move here without a job. Many New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders have left for Australia's more buoyant job market and

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Speaker 2: the higher wages. But Robert, who works, admits he would

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Speaker 2: earn more if he did the same job in Australia.

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Speaker 2: But they weren't as happy there. The life and weather

1160
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Speaker 2: are good, but it wasn't welcoming. That's of Australia. So

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Speaker 2: Robert and Sabina did not find New Zealand as affordable

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Speaker 2: as they thought. The house prices were a problem. We

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Speaker 2: were shocked at how high the house prices were. Renting

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Speaker 2: a four bedroom some twenty five miles forty ks from

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Speaker 2: Auckland eight hundred and fifty a week house is worth

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Speaker 2: about one point twenty five million. Robert takes a bus

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Speaker 2: to Auckland for work each day. Takes an hour each way.

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Speaker 2: It's a long way. Two hours of commuting each and

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Speaker 2: every day Sabrina's currently looking for a job in job recruitment,

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Speaker 2: but the sense of community is better, so they like it.

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Speaker 2: The cost of lipnw here you go. The cost of

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Speaker 2: living is lower than in the UK. Groceries are five

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Speaker 2: to fifty a month if they shop around. Other monthly

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Speaker 2: costs include broadband of five hundred, fifty to one hundred, water,

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Speaker 2: one hundred electricity, one seventy gas, eighty mobile phones, forty

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Speaker 2: to sixty five petrols. Cheaper than the UK, as is

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Speaker 2: eating out, so all of you don't text me I

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Speaker 2: can buy seven oranges for a five p in London.

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Speaker 2: No you can't. You're making it up. So it's cheaper

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Speaker 2: here than it is in Britain. Quick lunch at Auckland

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Speaker 2: costs thirteen to eighteen bucks. Coffee is five bucks. Most

1182
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Speaker 2: people they've observed takeout private healthcare, which they get through

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Speaker 2: Robert's job. His role was part of the Tier one greenless,

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Speaker 2: so in other words, high demand. So he comes into

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Speaker 2: the country, files the paperwork straight to residency, which is

1186
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Speaker 2: good because the job market is not as buoyant. It's

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Speaker 2: important to do your research before arriving and sort out

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Speaker 2: a job and a visa before you go. Salaries have

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Speaker 2: reached record highs despite the number of listed jobs dropping

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Speaker 2: by forty five percent a year ago in Auckland. In

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Speaker 2: totality read the whole thing. It's well worth looking up

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Speaker 2: in totality. They chose here, they've stayed here, they like

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Speaker 2: it here, and they've got good reasons for thinking they

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Speaker 2: make the right choice. So that's uplifting.

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Speaker 1: Tend to weights a make Hosking breakfast with a Vita

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News togs Head vs.

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Speaker 2: But it's stepping away from more renewable power as coming.

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Speaker 2: Last week it was hunting in batteries. This week it's

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Speaker 2: Loadstone Energy and their first soul of farm. It's in Temuka.

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Speaker 2: Construction starts later this month or early next. I think

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Speaker 2: Gerry Holden's managing director of Loadstones will us Gary morning.

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Speaker 19: Good morning, how are you well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? What's your portfolio? You got any solar in there?

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Speaker 2: Alreadio nine.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, this is the South Canterbury site in Clandiboys our

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Speaker 19: fifth project and so we were now on the South

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Speaker 19: Island and effectively trying to build a solar farm in

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Speaker 19: every community that we can and follow the population. You know,

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Speaker 19: have a have a scattering of generation that kind of

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Speaker 19: lines up with where the businesses and and and residences.

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Speaker 2: Are all solar, all solar.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, we we We've got an innovative contract that takes

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Speaker 19: that takes a solar from a farm and sells it

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Speaker 19: to a business or or or a property that simulates

1215
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Speaker 19: as if those solar panels are on the facility. And

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Speaker 19: so we we pretty much feel like there's a kind

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Speaker 19: of an open end of how many of these projects.

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Speaker 8: We can do.

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Speaker 2: Who do you sell to? Do you sell to a retailer?

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Speaker 19: We primarily we sell directly to customers.

1221
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Speaker 2: So you're a John Taylor say, we.

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Speaker 19: Essentially are a new version of a Gent Taylor that's

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Speaker 19: focused on solar and ultimately we'll be adding batteries to

1224
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Speaker 19: our farms to round out the generation.

1225
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Speaker 2: That battery thing, so the Huntley I don't know if

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00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: you're up on, but the Huntly thing last week. So

1227
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Speaker 2: they're going to do these I can't remember the number

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Speaker 2: of gigs, I think megah whatever it was. They're going

1229
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Speaker 2: to do one hundred and twenty thousand houses by twenty

1230
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Speaker 2: thirty five, two major batteries and that will be for

1231
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: two hours supply. That struck me as disappointing. A batteries

1232
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: really the answer for major storage for long term use

1233
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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 19: No, I mean they're designed just to shift energy from

1235
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Speaker 19: one part of the day to the other, and I

1236
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Speaker 19: think I think for Genesis, they're anticipating that, you know,

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Speaker 19: if there ultimately is a solar farm in every community,

1238
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Speaker 19: then there will be energy in the afternoon when the

1239
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Speaker 19: sun is shining that you could shift into the evening.

1240
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Speaker 19: So they're just they're just getting a bit ahead of

1241
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Speaker 19: the curve, and it's quite quite a good idea and

1242
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Speaker 19: it enables quite a lot of solar to be built.

1243
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Speaker 2: Okay, are you happy with the consent process? Are you

1244
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Speaker 2: able to do business in a way that suits you?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, We've we've got six more consented sites actually in

1246
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 19: our portfolio coming and you know, our strategy has been

1247
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Speaker 19: to keep them relatively small, have them tuck into communities

1248
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Speaker 19: and maybe even behind a hedge row so you can't

1249
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Speaker 19: really even see them, and then put sheep underneath and

1250
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Speaker 19: keep the productive value of the land going. And so

1251
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Speaker 19: so when you when you approach it from that direction,

1252
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 19: consenting has been really quite a straightforward process.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, good he Gary, get you on a get

1254
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: and carry Holden, who's the Liodstone Energy managing director. It's

1255
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Speaker 2: it's moving at pace, the old renewable story. Fascinated with

1256
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: it now Sean Johnson. As of tomorrow night, it's got

1257
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: his own television program. So we'll talk a little bit

1258
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: about that. Life after legal, life after professional sport. I'm

1259
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: interested in this fitness regime obviously. What do you do

1260
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: when you've been an elite athlete? For goodness sake? I mean,

1261
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: do you keep yourself fist? He certain it looks for it.

1262
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: I've been watching his videos and stuff. He looks for it.

1263
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: He looks healthy. So he's doing that, and he's moving

1264
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Speaker 2: into the media space. So Sean Johnson for it. And

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Speaker 2: he's got to be loving what's going on on the

1266
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: field at the moment. For goodness sake. Sean Johnson up

1267
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Speaker 2: in the news with his next They're on the my costumes, I.

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Speaker 20: Mean post a Mazario, Mike hous Game insightful, engaging and vital,

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Speaker 20: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Octor the most

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Speaker 20: powerful defender ever made and used, togs Head bh.

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Speaker 2: O seven past day. Seawan Johnson's in the middle of

1272
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Speaker 2: answering the question as to what it is you do

1273
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Speaker 2: when you retire from top level sport. In his case,

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Speaker 2: it's get a television show about the sport you love.

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01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: Australian television produces things like The Light Show with maybe

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Speaker 2: John's of course are n RL three sixty for local flavor.

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01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: As of tomorrow night on Sky we will have League

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Speaker 2: Lounge in Sewan. Johnson is with us. Good to see you.

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Speaker 8: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now, first of all, the talk about the team before

1281
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: we talk about you the team this year, you've got

1282
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: to be thoroughly enjoying what's unfolding.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it certainly makes creating a league show midweek a

1284
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 21: little bit easier when the local team is doing their

1285
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 21: part and in building the hype around our game, you know,

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 21: like it's a I feel like the growth of Rugular

1287
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 21: League over the last maybe three four years or maybe

1288
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 21: since we returned from COVID has just been on a

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Speaker 21: rapid rise, and what the boys are doing this year

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Speaker 21: is just doubling down on that. So really really good

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Speaker 21: to see and really enjoyable to watch.

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Speaker 2: Can you succinctly explain what's happened?

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Speaker 8: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Webster? Is it a combination of things that all of

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Speaker 2: the potential you guys have had for seemingly ever, has

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Speaker 2: now seemingly come to fruition on the field.

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Speaker 15: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 21: I feel like our twenty three season was pretty special.

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Speaker 21: Now you can quickly forget about that, I guess in

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Speaker 21: the months in the midst of history, you know, with

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Speaker 21: what you're seeing from the boys right now. But this

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Speaker 21: hasn't been like an off season thing. This has been

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Speaker 21: Webby has been at the Helm now for his third season,

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Speaker 21: and he is really starting to implement the things he

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Speaker 21: believes in and the style he wants to play.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 21: It's not just one thing, but I generally think Webby's

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Speaker 21: at the head of it. I think he is slowly

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Speaker 21: filtering down throughout the whole club his philosophy, his energy,

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Speaker 21: the way he approaches the game, and what he believes

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Speaker 21: wins footy games.

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Speaker 2: So he has a special something about him. Do you

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Speaker 2: see that there are certain people have this sort of

1314
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Speaker 2: a genus, acquire a vibe about them that's a bit different.

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Speaker 2: He's like that.

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Speaker 21: Yered percent I've been his biggest advocate for him being

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Speaker 21: a people's first coach as opposed to a rugby league

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Speaker 21: first coach. I think he values the importance of team

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Speaker 21: chemistry and culture as much as he does skill work

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Speaker 21: or fitness, and I don't know if a lot of

1321
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 21: coaches out there do. So he's got that. He's got

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Speaker 21: that straight away, and then he's built a roster with

1323
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 21: you know, other people involved with the club that like

1324
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 21: have got this depth to the group. You know, we've

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Speaker 21: seen that with certain boys missing out or injuries and

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01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 21: people just being next manned up mentality and going out

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Speaker 21: there and getting it done.

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Speaker 2: A game we play where significant names haven't been missing

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Speaker 2: and therefore we still win.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a special it's a special trait to have,

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01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 21: and it's going to take you a long season.

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Speaker 2: So the controversial question I have for you this morning,

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Speaker 2: Shawn Johnson, is your replacement Metcalf cannot kick. He's at

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Speaker 2: sixty ish percent and there will be a point in

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Speaker 2: the season where where you've left six on the table

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01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: and you needed them. What do you do?

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01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 21: I think, my honesty, I think you persist because he's

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01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 21: the best kicker in the club. It's that simple, right,

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 21: He's the best kicker in the club. And I think

1341
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 21: if there's a game to be one I always resorted

1342
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 21: back to that, like what game this year needed to

1343
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 21: be one. He stepped up from fifty meters out and

1344
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 21: slotted it. Yeah, okay, So that all these reps he's

1345
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 21: currently going through, and this is the bit that people

1346
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 21: at home probably miss is he hasn't been a first

1347
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 21: grade kicker where he's had the goal kick off the

1348
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 21: back of doing eighty percent of the general play kicking.

1349
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Speaker 19: Right.

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 21: You know, he's been a six the last three years

1351
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 21: where he's kicked the ball three times during the game.

1352
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: So it'll get better.

1353
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 21: It'll get better one hundred percent get better, and it

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 21: gets better through in game reps, not practice. Practice helps.

1355
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 21: Practice is important, but in game reps is where he

1356
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 21: is going to bank, and then comes the back end

1357
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 21: of the year he's going to deliver.

1358
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Speaker 13: I know it.

1359
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: I hope you're right because I saw it two games

1360
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: ago where he because most tries and league I suddenly

1361
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: thought about this the other day because it's been perplexing me.

1362
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: Most tries and legua rout on the wing, aren't they

1363
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: You're very rare to see someone go right up in

1364
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: the middle and you can yeah the place, so you're

1365
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: out in the side. And then two games ago he

1366
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: started to turn it and you could see him turning

1367
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: it in and it's it's it's coming. So maybe you're right.

1368
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 21: This is so good because this is exactly what I

1369
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 21: want to do on the League lounge there you go.

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01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 21: It's crazy, you know. I want to speak, you know,

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01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 21: to what you're feeling, what you're seeing. I want to

1372
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 21: speak to what maybe your audience is feeling and seeing

1373
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 21: from the game. You know, I want to help educate

1374
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 21: so that maybe our takes on that and how we

1375
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 21: talk about these players is slightly adjusted, you know, I

1376
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 21: think it's important. So just having that conversation right there

1377
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 21: with you is exactly.

1378
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: How do you deal with well, I mean, you've got

1379
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: a lot of haters in general and sport, haven't you,

1380
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: Or you've got a lot of ignorant and or haters.

1381
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that?

1382
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 21: Education? Education? I feel like, you know, say, say someone

1383
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 21: just listened to what you just said around Luke Metcalff

1384
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 21: can't kick, And I wasn't here to maybe put a

1385
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 21: little bit of context on that. Correct, they go to

1386
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 21: the work site or their workplace and go, ah, Luke

1387
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 21: Metcalff can't kick. Because your word is valuable, right, You're

1388
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 21: trusted in the space. Yes, So if I can help

1389
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 21: offer a bit of perspective and to maybe what's going

1390
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 21: on with that. It's not an excuse, but it just

1391
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 21: might buy a bit of time to start seeing these

1392
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 21: results now. At points in my career, I was kicking

1393
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 21: at sixty percent, right, But I had a feeling by

1394
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 21: the end of my career, if there's a kick to

1395
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 21: win the game, who did people want to take it?

1396
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 13: You?

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01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: So, but you've got about Well, let me give you

1398
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: a piece of advice as a broadcaster, and that is

1399
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: you don't want to be an apologist for the team

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01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: that you will once with. Nah, so you've got your gas.

1401
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: You've got to strike that balance, Yeah, between correcting me

1402
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: and then being an apologist for the Warriors, because there

1403
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: were sometimes where they need to kick up.

1404
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 21: The Yeah, one hundred percent, And if that's the case,

1405
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 21: I will give it to them, But I still feel

1406
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 21: like I can give it to them in a different light,

1407
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 21: you know what I mean. So, yeah, that's that's essentially

1408
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 21: what the League Lounge is going to be, you know, entertaining,

1409
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 21: but educational and offer insight and some of the guests

1410
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 21: will you know, will have on the couch along with me.

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01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 21: I don't think people will have seen them in that way.

1412
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 21: So the whole package. Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna

1413
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 21: be a cool it's gonna be a cool thing to

1414
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 21: I guess be a part of.

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01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: More on this in a moment. Shawn Johnson Thirteam Past.

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Speaker 1: Eight, the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: Power It by News Talks.

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Speaker 9: It Be.

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: News Talks sixteen Past eight The League Launch Tomorrow night

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: on Sky Seawan Johnson is the is the creative genius

1421
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: behind it, which is interesting because you were telling me

1422
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 2: off here before we started that this is this is you,

1423
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: this is not They've just hired you for the show

1424
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: and you now host it, so this is your thing.

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, I think you know, for me to commit

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 21: to something can be proud of it. I have to

1427
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 21: know it's a true reflection, you know, of me as

1428
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 21: a person, and Sky have come well and truly to

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 21: the party with allowing me to do that. It's been

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 21: a collaborative process, which is unusual. Usually it's what the

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01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 21: old traditional method of Sky produce a show. Higher talent

1432
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 21: just do it. But nah, this was this was a

1433
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 21: little bit different and I'm keen to show and I think, well,

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01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 21: I hope people at home when they tune in will

1435
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 21: feel that straight away, even just from the intro, the

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 21: sound of the intro, the look of the set, everything

1437
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 21: will just feel a little bit different to I guess

1438
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 21: maybe what you're usually going to see on Sky.

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: Have you got any sense whether you're any good?

1440
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 21: No? No, No, that'll be That'll be a work in progress,

1441
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 21: day to day, week to week. No, I'm not trying.

1442
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 21: I know it's the Lea, the League Lounge of Seann Johnson,

1443
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 21: and I am the host, but I don't think I'm

1444
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 21: going to be your traditional hosts that you see. I'm

1445
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 21: a little bit on edge about that, but I think

1446
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 21: it's going to be fun and I'll just continue to

1447
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 21: be me while doing it.

1448
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: Are you self critical? Are you good at that sort

1449
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: of thing?

1450
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 4: Oh?

1451
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 21: Yeah, on my on My biggest critic I was when

1452
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 21: I was playing often I'd have all this outside noise

1453
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 21: and none of it really mattered because my own opinion

1454
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,879
Speaker 21: was in the opinion of my teammates, you know, was important.

1455
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 21: So it's the same now. My own opinion of my

1456
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 21: performance as a host and the opinion of the people

1457
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 21: under that Sky banner are important. So yeah, it's gonna

1458
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 21: gonna review performance. I'm going to continue to look to

1459
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 21: improve and continue just to just be myself is going

1460
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 21: to be the main one.

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the plan when you retired? What was

1462
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: the plan post league?

1463
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 17: Post league?

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01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 21: Was I I always liked the media space, you know.

1465
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 21: I always had an opinion on how things were done

1466
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 21: or what was missing. Now did I think I was

1467
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Speaker 21: going to have my own show this early?

1468
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: No way.

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Speaker 21: But I've found just by being myself and offering my

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Speaker 21: takes and perspective and insights that it's been received really well.

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Speaker 21: And I said earlier, I've actually probably got more positive

1472
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 21: feedback since I've retired than I did throughout my playing career,

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Speaker 21: which is pretty pretty crazy. I feel generally more loved

1474
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 21: right now, which is a nice feeling. I'm certainly certainly

1475
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 21: appreciative of that than when I was playing. So that's

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 21: a space I feel passionate about, you know, And that

1477
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Speaker 21: was always in the back of my mind when I retired.

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Speaker 2: How much, because you're only in mid thies, thirty four

1479
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: years old, you've got a lot of life still to

1480
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 2: do stuff. How much thought during your time did you

1481
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Speaker 2: give to what might.

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Speaker 21: Be Yeah, a lot, a lot and I encourage I

1483
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 21: encourage players you know currently you know, thinking about retirement,

1484
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 21: to start implementing a few things that will just sort

1485
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 21: of get you out of be at each hey, because

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01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 21: there's a lot of horror stories around X players retiring

1487
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 21: and the struggles and the battles they go through. But

1488
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 21: maybe what made this a little bit smoother was the

1489
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 21: fact it was my choice, my decision. I didn't get

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 21: forced out, and I wanted to do it on my

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01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 21: own terms. So I had to have, you know, one

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01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 21: or two things in place just to get me up

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 21: every day, to offer myself some sort of structure, because

1494
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 21: stepping out of that space where you've had that the

1495
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 21: last ten to fifteen years can be pretty daunting. And

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01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 21: no regrets, No regrets, man, No regrets. Look, I love

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 21: watching the boys, and I am I a little bit

1498
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 21: jealous at times around seeing you know them when one

1499
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 21: hundred percent I don't know if that'll ever leave. But

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Speaker 21: I'm very much aware that what we see for eighty

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 21: minutes is the tip of the iceberg, right and everything

1502
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 21: underneath that is essentially what I wasn't prepared to do anymore.

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 21: So Nah, I no regrets loving what I'm doing and

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 21: I'm really excited about this next unity.

1505
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: With the bigest Do you want to be? How involved

1506
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: I've seen you, like in Vegas, you were going across

1507
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 2: the Vegas at the start of the season, all that stuff.

1508
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: How involved with the team are you still?

1509
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 8: Not? Not?

1510
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 21: Very not very not not from a performance standpoint. I've

1511
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 21: got great relationships with the boys, Still catch up for

1512
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 21: coffees midweek, yarn soundboard, anything that they've got. Luki met

1513
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 21: something I had a lot to do with over the

1514
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 21: last few years, and I'm still very much a soundboard

1515
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 21: firm if he needs it. But god damn no, none

1516
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 21: of them need me. Look at the way they're going.

1517
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: It's like, but do you see yourself in the game

1518
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: at some point in the future?

1519
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 7: Oh?

1520
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 21: Man, Look, I'd never say never. Is that a fair

1521
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 21: ants I never say never right now. I've got no aspirations, no,

1522
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 21: you know, am I passionate about passing some of the

1523
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 21: stuff I learned and had to go through onto some

1524
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 21: of the younger boys coming through. That might just help

1525
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 21: them navigate what they're about to feel sure, I am

1526
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 21: passionate about that. I've got some things. I'm working on,

1527
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 21: some other things away from media and the league lounge

1528
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 21: that might help me deliver that. So that's in the background,

1529
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 21: brewing away. But in terms of coaching or you know,

1530
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 21: that's some sort of no man, I got no no thoughts.

1531
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: Good place to be there, right right, they're wrongly good.

1532
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 2: It's a good place to be. What do you do

1533
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: for fitness In terms.

1534
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 21: Of I put my back out, putting my socks on

1535
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 21: the other day, I'm not. I'm so I am I

1536
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 21: woeful at encouraging myself to get up and do something

1537
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 21: for me.

1538
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: I still look in good shape though, So yeah, you

1539
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: obviously haven't let yourself go.

1540
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 21: No, I eat well, I think you know my diets,

1541
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 21: it's just part of me, right, that's just the way

1542
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 21: I've eaten for a long time. So it's not I enjoy.

1543
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 21: I enjoy, you know, my fast foods every now and there,

1544
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 21: enjoy a beer every now and then. But it's all

1545
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 21: in moderation, yep. But I'll slowly, I've starting to get

1546
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 21: to that point now where it's been a couple of

1547
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 21: months where I haven't done anything. Now I'm like you,

1548
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 21: you're a disgusting human. You need to get going again.

1549
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 21: So I'm going to start finding a gym, finding a

1550
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 21: bit of routine.

1551
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: Good on you well, good luck tomorrow night, and I'm

1552
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: sure it will go well and we'll catch up with

1553
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: your mid season or the end of the season or whatever,

1554
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: and talks more about it.

1555
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 21: I appreciate it.

1556
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 2: Thanks having to nice see Sean Johnson eight twenty two.

1557
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: The Mate Hosking Breakfast with the Defender O turn News.

1558
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: Tom said Bee Mike, just like his playing career, very classing.

1559
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: I wish him all the very best. He's gone down

1560
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: very well. Eight twenty far by the way, from someone

1561
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: who's been a diehard warrior support from conception. I rate

1562
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: Yousja and how you're taking on the commentators. Sean Johnson's quality. Man,

1563
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: you deserve your own show, Sean, looking forward to what

1564
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: it brings. What a great interview with Sean speaking so well.

1565
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: Looking forward to the show, Mike. How refreshing it is

1566
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: to listen to an eloquent and passionate ex rugby league

1567
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: player talk about the game with patients and knowledge, Mike.

1568
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: Adam Pompey kicked it over eighty percent last year. It

1569
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: would seem to be a no brainer to me. Yeah,

1570
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: I'd question. If I had more time, I would have gone.

1571
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: But I trust him and if you go back a

1572
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: couple of games didn't have many kicks from the out

1573
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: wide over the weekend, but the week before he did,

1574
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: and he started to look better as the game went on.

1575
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: And I think there's some intelligence into the comment that

1576
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: you will get better as the season goes on with

1577
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,879
Speaker 2: real time, real world texts as opposed to just practicing

1578
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: a great chat with Sean. Didn't realize you were so

1579
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: articulate and eloquent when talk talking. Will you go great

1580
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: chat with my consurance? She had a lot of good feedback.

1581
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: Who doesn't love Sean Johnson newspeking a couple of moments.

1582
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: By the way, in Britain. I won't raise it with

1583
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: Rod because he won't know anything about it because it's

1584
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: to do with cars. He's a trained man. But the

1585
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: production of cars? What was that car I was talking

1586
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: to you about before? The byd?

1587
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 15: The ying yang, the wang yang, the wang ya wwangyang

1588
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 15: yun byd.

1589
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, so laughing, don't laugh I'm not laughing the.

1590
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 15: So it seems like you're laughing.

1591
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: What are you laughing at?

1592
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 15: The wang yang?

1593
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: The wang yang hang on. I'll write it down so

1594
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't forget the Wang Yang U nine. I'll come

1595
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: back to that at time. So anyway, production of cars

1596
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 2: in the UK has fallen off a cliff, lowest April

1597
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: output for more than seventy years. This is all the business,

1598
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: apart from anything of the tariffs and the concerns around it.

1599
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 2: Fifty nine two hundred and three cars were produced in

1600
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: England for that month, sixteen percent lower than the same

1601
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: month last year, twenty five percent lower than March, and

1602
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 2: the lowest April since it's nineteen fifty two. Now, in

1603
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty two, when they produce fifty three, five hundred

1604
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: and eighteen cars, imagine what the population of Britain in

1605
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: the world was. It was infantesimally smaller. Therefore, you know

1606
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: when I've had a population, So the car industry is

1607
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: an absolute tumor.

1608
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,959
Speaker 15: Well, it's small correction, it's not. It's not the Wangyang.

1609
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 15: That'd be a ridiculous name. It's the yang Wang.

1610
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: It's the yang Wang, the byd yang Wang.

1611
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: Use opinion and everything in between. The mic Hosking Breakfast

1612
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

1613
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: and rural news talks dead be.

1614
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: Just to wrap up the yang Wang talk. So the

1615
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: reason I was Seemi looking at this thing is b

1616
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: why I've got a whole thing. I'll probably do it tomorrow.

1617
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: But there's a car for sale in Europe by BYD

1618
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: which is called the Seagull, and it costs next to nothing.

1619
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: It's just like it's literally a throwaway car. But at

1620
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: the other end of the spectrum, I don't know what

1621
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: the yang Wang costs. But my point is this, it's

1622
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: a super it's a supercar. It's a super looking car,

1623
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: looks like a you know, pick a car and aston,

1624
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: a Lambeau, whatever you want. It's one of those sort

1625
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: of cars you cannot put into the marketplace. Something called

1626
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: yang wing. You cannot if you.

1627
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 11: Expect it means look up, I couldn't care less what

1628
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 11: it means. I couldn't get I couldn't care less what

1629
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 11: it means. See there, if you look at it, the

1630
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 11: Ferrari pure Sangue, you go, what does that mean? That

1631
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 11: that's a wind in the desert? But pure sang it rolls.

1632
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 11: Yang Wing doesn't wrong.

1633
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: You can't expect people to pay big bucks for a

1634
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: car that sounds it's.

1635
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 15: Only three hundred ninety thousand.

1636
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: Zealand it's a lot of money, Glenn. We're not all

1637
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: doing as well as you stop being out of touch

1638
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: with the people. The and so now you're telling me

1639
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:46,959
Speaker 2: it jumps over potholes.

1640
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, literally senses obstacles.

1641
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: It sensors the obstacle and ejects itself above it. Yep,

1642
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: it yang wings itself over.

1643
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 15: The hazard style rubbish. I've just been watching a video

1644
01:16:59,640 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 15: of it.

1645
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: Do so all right, So I'm going to look up

1646
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 2: the gang wing. I'm saving for one of these is

1647
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: three und ninety thousand dollars.

1648
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 15: What I don't understand is why they have forgone the

1649
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 15: whole sort of marine theme with the naming, because you

1650
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 15: know it's what because you had your seal, I understand

1651
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 15: the dolphin, the seagull, the shark, and now I suddenly

1652
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 15: it's look up.

1653
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: Why don't they call it the byd you know, a

1654
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: porpoise twenty two minutes away from.

1655
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 4: Now international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1656
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,440
Speaker 4: mind for New Zealand.

1657
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: Business anyway in the UK rod morning to you mate,

1658
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: Good morning to your mate. So they got there on

1659
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: the end and they solved the problem. I mean, the

1660
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: winter payment seventy five percent of people get it if

1661
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 2: you earn what is it, thirty five thousand quid or

1662
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: whatever it is is, But is this a win or what?

1663
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 17: No, it's it's it's kind of mitigating a defeat. And

1664
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 17: I don't think it adds up to an awful lot.

1665
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 17: It's actually that's Rachel Reeves pointedly refused to apologize for

1666
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 17: having imposed the cut of the first place. So they lose,

1667
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 17: as I've mentioned before, you know, they lose from having

1668
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 17: introduced the scrapping of winter fuel payments. Don't really get

1669
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 17: that much back from then reintroducing them. Partially, it's still

1670
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 17: thought of very darkly by the left of the Labor

1671
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 17: Party and also by an awful lot of those voters

1672
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 17: in the red wall in the north of the country.

1673
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: Is there any sophistication in the mechanism, because it's always

1674
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: explained in this country that means testing is very difficult

1675
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: to administer. So with an annual income of thirty five

1676
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: pounds or this, do they know who they are, whether

1677
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: they're getting ripped off and whether this is a sufficient

1678
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: way to do it, or they're just handing it out

1679
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: and hoping the problem goes away.

1680
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 17: No, that was always the issue. Mike to be honest,

1681
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 17: which was and in truth it is a good argument,

1682
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 17: which is that yes, winter fuel payments clearly should be

1683
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 17: means tested. I mean we get them, you know, I

1684
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 17: get them, but the means of doing so is so convoluted,

1685
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 17: so expensive, so time consuming, that it's cheaper to pay

1686
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 17: the whole country.

1687
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: The talks, I haven't got any detail out of them yet,

1688
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: and I don't know any details actually come out, but

1689
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm assuming a chunk of London's lockdown as a whole

1690
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: bunch of Chinese and a whole bunch of Americans wander

1691
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: into a room and have a word.

1692
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 17: Yes, And we're very proud of this. You know. It

1693
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 17: puts US at the center of the world stage for

1694
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 17: the talks between the world's two most powerful notions over trade.

1695
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 17: And it's another chance for Sirkire Starma in a way

1696
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,919
Speaker 17: to say to Europe and the European Medion, look, we're important,

1697
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 17: we really matter. We are a bridge between you and

1698
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 17: the USA, and we are on your side and we're

1699
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 17: on their side as well. You know, you need to

1700
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 17: recognize that. So it's actually quite a useful it's actually

1701
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 17: quite a useful contrivance for Starma and for the for

1702
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 17: the government. Generally, I dare say that London will be

1703
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 17: hellish for the next three days, and one should be

1704
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 17: minded to avoid it.

1705
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 2: In the Frederick Forsyth id something didn't have any money,

1706
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: thought what am I going to do to dig himself

1707
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: out of a whole line now? Or write a book

1708
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: that worked out?

1709
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 8: Or right?

1710
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:20,520
Speaker 2: Didn't it?

1711
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 17: It did? Indeed, probably probably one of the world's greatest

1712
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 17: thriller writers died today, famous for the Day of the

1713
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 17: Jackal and Viadesaphile particularly a very very acute writer, very

1714
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 17: very short, terse novels. Day of the Jackal did incredibly well.

1715
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 17: Of course, he worked for me for a bit. I

1716
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 17: employed him to write an essay at the end of

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Speaker 17: the Today program every other week, and on the other

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Speaker 17: week it was done by will self and his essays

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Speaker 17: were so staggeringly right wing that he was taken off

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Speaker 17: in the end he was he was. He was very

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Speaker 17: right of center, indeed, very pro leave and part of

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Speaker 17: that generation along with I would guess Alexander Fleming h

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Speaker 17: who who were of the of the far right as writers,

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Speaker 17: very few writers on the right these days. He was

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Speaker 17: one of the last.

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Speaker 2: Right You go, well catch up on Thursday, were a

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Speaker 2: little out of Britain just before we leave that part

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Speaker 2: of the world. You won't know the name, but ze

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 2: use of who is he? Well, he was the chairman

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Speaker 2: of Reform Reformer going gangbusters at the moment the political party.

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01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Nigel Faras the leader of course, but he was the chairman.

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Speaker 2: He quit and then he came back. He quit after

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Speaker 2: saying working to get it elected was no longer a

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Speaker 2: good use of my time, to which he then rescinded that,

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01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: and his party spokesman said, Zia regrets what he said

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Speaker 2: and did the other day. It was a combination of

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Speaker 2: eleven months, hard working, exhaust gen So he is back

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Speaker 2: and he's going to introduce what he's calling his version

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01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: of a Doge team, and they're going to rip into

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01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 2: the British economy and they're going to change the landscape

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01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: as they see. So that's the Reform Party for You're

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Speaker 2: seventeen to two The.

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Speaker 1: Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 1: News Talks.

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01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: At B fourteen Away from nine a Liam Dan a

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01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: good piece yesterday talked to a guy called in the Herald.

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Speaker 2: This is he talked to a guy called Cameron Mitchell

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01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: who's the a Z's He had a head of geopolitical risk,

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: And I think you can be a reasonably good head

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: of geopolitical risk at the moment, as long as you

1751
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 2: say things like very difficult to say what's going on,

1752
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: hard to tell what's next, it's an open question as

1753
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: to what might unfold before you. Stuff like that. But

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: be that as it may. See a couple of positive things.

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01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: I thought the US policy stance was creating new opportunities

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01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: for trading nations. Where a trading nation, so new opportunities

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01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: for US. I think I might be right without blowing

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01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: my own trumpet. So far, so good. But I did

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01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: say at the very beginning of this that it might

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01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: be possible. And red meat's the very good example. Wine

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01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 2: would be the other. In dealing directly with America, it's

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01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: entirely possible. We are so good at ten percent, we

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01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: might be able to trade our way through it. In

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01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: other words, there are enough people that we sell to

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: in America that another ten percent on a bottle of

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01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: whatever and a stake of isn't going to be a

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: problem for them. So, in other words, sales don't get hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's still early days, but certainly in the numbers and

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01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: we had them in the April numbers for red meat.

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Speaker 2: They're just absolutely booming and there seems to be no

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01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: end as to how much we can sell. Anyway, He's

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: looking at other countries doubling down on free trade agreements.

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01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: I know they mentioned the other day with Steve that

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01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: the Australians are back in with the EU and they're

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 2: looking to They had a stall free trade arrangement. They

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: said let's go, let's get back into it. So they're underway.

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01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: So he's looking at places like the Europeans, the UK, Australia, India,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, are Japan, South Korea all free traders. There's

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 2: a lot of trading partners out there. There's NOECD report

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01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: that nations are looking to redouble their commitments to free trade,

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01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: which is right up our alley. He argues, it's problem

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01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: going to offset some of the impacts from the other

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: markets that are looking to tighten things up, like America.

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01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: So I hope he's right, but as well worth reading.

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Speaker 2: Mike I gouged the new Netflix series Last Night Department Q,

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01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: Scottish cold case Units, starring Matthew Good as the brilliantly

1787
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: incisive Detective Carl Mork, who is prone to colorful outbursts,

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01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: reminded me of the hosk Actually and looks slightly like

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: you too, does he?

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Speaker 15: He's t haggard, that's what you mean.

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: I tried, it looks a bit scott Who's the woman

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01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: that very well known, very weathered looking woman who's in

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01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: everything from North of the Border in the Star of

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01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: the Show, whatever her name.

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01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 15: Is, the one who plays like the superintendent of.

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01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: The Every time I see here, I go do I

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01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: need this? And I couldn't get it?

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Speaker 13: Really good?

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01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: It's good, Yeah, you reckon.

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Speaker 15: You might need to watch it with the subtitles on

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01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 15: it as super Scottish.

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01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so authentic. I thought, it's probably not me.

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01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: I did wrap up, to be fair, I did wrap

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01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: up Clarkson's farm last night, and the boss came and

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: he did it over the weekend. He said it ends

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01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: on a depressing note. He was wrong. What he meant

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: by that is that this goes to farming. You got

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01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: to understand farming last year in Britain was a disaster.

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01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: The reason Jeremy Clarkson didn't come here the other week

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01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: is because he's dealing with the drought, as are most

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01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: of British farmers at the moment. Last year they were

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01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: dealing with water like they'd never seen it in their lives.

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01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 2: And his entire Durham wheat crop was written off, which

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01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: was his main crop, and it was the crop they've

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01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 2: grown for pasta. They couldn't get any reading and there

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: was no money coming in, and so he was like

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: every other farmer. And that is that you hang on

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01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: in the tough years thinking that next year must be better.

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: It cannot be any worse than this past year. And

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01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: that is farming. And if you don't understand that, it

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01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: would seem depressing. And to be fair, the opening of

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01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: his pub was chaotic as well, and it's hard to

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01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 2: know how much of that they cut up to make

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01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: it look chaotic and versus how.

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Speaker 13: Much well all of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, when the power goes out, the powers out, and

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01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: it's not really a.

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Speaker 15: Public that yet you don't thin there's a produce a

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01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 15: going be funny if we knit around the back, And.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's that bad anyway. The point

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01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 2: of it is, as Katie said to me, And they

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01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: ended with Petula Clark singing downtown and they had those

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01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: beautiful landscape shots of the British country side. As Katie

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01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: said to me, that's good old fashion television. It's good

1835
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: old fashioned television. It takes you on a journey, it

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01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 2: tells the story, the characters are wonderful. You leave feeling

1837
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: pretty good. And so if you haven't seen it, well

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 2: worth it.

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01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: Nine to nine the Mike casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real

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Speaker 1: Estate News togs THEBB.

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Speaker 2: What's with the Tinder and the height thing? So they're

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 2: introducing a height filter so you can punch in blonde

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01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: blue eyes. I don't know how it works. I'm assuming

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01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: this out where I've never been on Tinder. But remember

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01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: the guy you weren't here, Sam, There was a guy

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01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 2: that's broadcaster I could name one day. I probably will

1847
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: in the book. But we went overseas on a trip

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01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: covering an event that I won't tell you because it

1849
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: might give away who he was. But he was on

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01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: Tinder all the time. It's well known guy. I could

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01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: name him right now. And you go no way, I go,

1852
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 2: yes way. Anyway.

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01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 15: Well, why are you saying that like it's a scandal.

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01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying. Well, it's not scandal, it's

1855
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: just like it's a roll your eyes moment. Are you

1856
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 2: really anyway? What's the hype thing? It's height of things.

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 15: Well, yeah, because somebody like you puts in that you're

1858
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 15: five ten, and then when you turn up and they

1859
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 15: see that you're not five ten, they go skys.

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01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: But I am fiveteen though.

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01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 1: From nine trending now with Chemist Warehouse, Great Savings every.

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01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: Day Worldwide Developers Conference at Cappatino as we speak, this

1863
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: is Apple of course, this is tech and fines. And

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01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: they're also into the IF One movie.

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01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm in the lead.

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 15: You're the only one out there.

1867
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 18: Crag.

1868
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 13: I've got to see my tires.

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01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 8: What for?

1870
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 17: I don't know. It's just what they.

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01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Say better be good because there's a lot of hype

1872
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: around that movie. There's software they've got this what is it?

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01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 2: The os? iOS? Is that what we're dealing with? Is

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01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: that how they pronounce it?

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01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 15: Did you read the script?

1876
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: Well, I can't read the script?

1877
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,520
Speaker 15: Just gone to iOS?

1878
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: Yes, iOS? Watch well see watch OS all the oss

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01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 2: all the os is watch OS. Anyway, They're going to

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01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: be SYNCD, so it's going to be iOS twenty six

1881
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: and there's a new look for the first time since

1882
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 2: iOS seven. So seven through twenty six. So for nineteen IOSS.

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01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 15: They've skipped a few to make it up to twenty six. No,

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01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 15: you're missing the point. It's twenty six because next year

1885
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 15: is twenty twenty.

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01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: Six, so they're tying it in with a year correc

1887
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: so it'll be easier to But what about the liquid

1888
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: What about the liquid glass?

1889
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 22: The lark screen has been updated with the time and

1890
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 22: controls now made of liquid glass, and swaping up to

1891
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 22: your home screen is even more delayful with this beautiful

1892
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 22: glass edge and a new sense of response. This we

1893
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 22: crafted app icons from liquid glass. It makes them feel

1894
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 22: fresh while keeping them instantly identifiable.

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01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 23: Even more delightful. It's like the b Y d wang Yang,

1896
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 23: even more delightful. Anyway, there's no phones or nothing. It's

1897
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 23: just that I owe is nonsense, and there's no new Mac.

1898
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 23: There's no home pod. What there was, inexplicably was a song.

1899
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 4: Being human.

1900
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 17: It's hard list head.

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01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: This is what happened out of fun, he said. Reviews

1902
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 2: and people say Apple have lost the clock. I wonder

1903
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: why that is. It's a guy called Alan Stone. You'll

1904
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: never hear from him again. What did the market think

1905
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: of it? Well shares it down one point two one percent,

1906
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: down seventeen point three one percent year to day. So

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01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: that's him and he's created a genius for you. That

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Speaker 2: is us for today. We return at six am tomorrow morning,

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01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 2: as always, Happy Days.

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01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 13: With the Most.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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