1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: And in France, Catherine feel very good morning to you. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Make claims amazing, doesn't it. I mean, I'm sure you 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: were watching as I was yesterday and he's in the popemobile, 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: he's blessing babies. Jad Barnce was in his plate and 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: suddenly he's. 7 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Gone incredible, wasn't it. Yes, Europe woke up on Easter 8 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Monday to discover that Pope Francis, who of course has 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: you know, has got a max sort of following here 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: in Europe. But I think the one thing that has 11 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: come across today and when we look at the reaction 12 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: from people like Vonderlion, head of the European Commission, talking 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: about his humility, his compassion, German Chancellor and Waiting Mets 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: talking about the Pope's commitment to justice and reconciliation. And 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: I think you just sort of keep seeing that, Mike, 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: this idea that this was a pope who was pope 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: at a time when moral values were really being questioned, 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: someone who cared about the vulnerable. And when you look 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: at the you know, the aspects that he brought to 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: the four when he was talking not just Europeans but 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: also his whole legacy. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Will we very much. 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: The environment. Remember back in what twenty fourteen he came 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: to Strasburg in France and made that big announcement about 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: the need for something to be done about the environment, 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: the need for people to start taking climate change more carefully, 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: to actually recognize that it has been getting worse. So 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what we've really been seeing throughout the day. 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: I mean here in Paris, of course, Notre Dame through 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: its doors open, people have been there all day, They've 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: had special masses. It will stay open till midnight for 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: the faithful to go and just have say a prayer 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: to be part of the morning for this pope and 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: the Marror of parents has ordered that the Eiffel Tower 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: lights be turned off all tonight to commemorate his death. 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: One of the interesting things you mentioned Strasbourg. Of course, 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: what he didn't do is he never went to Paris 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame. He never went there for the reopening 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: eye which I mean, is that widely now and if 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: it is, what, what's what do we make of it? 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Indeed, he did not come for the reopening in December 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: of Notre Dame, and not just a week later he 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: went to Corsica, which was that he went there for 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: a gathering of Catholic people involved with the migrant crisis. 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: I might I'll be honest with you, if they could 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: have done anything to get him to go to the 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: reopening of Notre Dame last December, they would have done it. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: We heard all sorts of things that President Macrome asked 49 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: him personally. The Archbishop of Paris asked him. They said 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: they would build a ramp for his wheelchair. They said 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: they would whitened doors. But he said, and he made 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: it very clear to an Italian journalist, he said, I 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: will never go to Paris. I'm not going to Paris. 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to the opening of Notre Dame. Several 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: things on that one is it was widely known that 56 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: he just really had no interest in rich Western countries. 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: He preferred the periphery. He preferred the poor, He preferred 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: the to deal with people who were on the mark 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: ugeons of society. Don't forget. Also, there was a very 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: big here the clerical sexual abuse. Not so very long ago, 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: they came out this Commission on Sexual Abuse in the 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: Catholic Church said there was systematic abuse of children by 63 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: clergymen in France. Two hundred and sixteen thousand cases since 64 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty. So that, of course was another big thing 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: that the Pope was very ashamed of said he actually 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: used the word shame. Also, secularism. Europe is far more 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: secular than it has been in the past. The Church 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: doesn't have that role in society that the well Pipe 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: France has wanted it to. 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Very good insight, Catherine, appreciate your time as always, Catherine Field, 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: who is in France for us this morning. By the way, 72 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: there is no clear candidate to replace them, but i'll 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: work you through a couple of possible names. After a 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: seven o'clock will go to Royme. Just out of Europe 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: in general, a couple of things have happened over the 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: weekend that are moderately positive. I think Ukraine signed this 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: what they call the basis of a minerals deal. This 78 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: is this member go back to Zelensky in the White House. 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: It all turned pair shape anyway, it was that deal. 80 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: They've finally got round to signing memorandum of intent basis 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: for a larger agreement. So we'll be interested to see 82 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: where that goes. I know Prime Minister Luxon, by the 83 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: ways with us after seven to thirty said overnight that 84 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: we're extending our cooperation to train the troops in Britain 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: for Ukraine until December of next year. So in other words, 86 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: we see, I assume the war carrying on this year 87 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: and next, which then leads you to go what happened 88 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: to the peace deal? Meantime, speaking of peace the United 89 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: States in Iran, Witcoff, this is they're forever traveling around 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: the world. I knowe that to Jeddie Barnces in India 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: this morning he's traveling in as well. But anyway, Whitcock, 92 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: they talked Iran and the States. They're going to talk 93 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: again this week. They're moving from Rome to Oman, but 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: things in that particular area look positive as well. 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