WEBVTT - "The Goodfellas Ending Was More Shocking Than This..." 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.799 Altro. Welcome to the BOYC Podcast, a special edition post 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.480 mortem show coming to you from at the Export Beer 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.280 Garden Studio on a Friday after one of the saddest 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.880 days Satust weeks in recent New Zealand cricket history. You 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.119 can hear the strains of Henry Purcell's akingly Sad Diado's 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.000 lament a company today's podcast as we look back on 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.760 yesterday's defeat at the hands and bats of the tournament 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.680 hosts West Indies and reflect on what I'm going to 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.960 say is probably New Zealand's worst ever performance at a 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.360 T twenty Cricket World Cup. It is right down there 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.720 with not making it out of the group stages in 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.840 two thousand and nine, with a squad captained by Daniel 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:51.560 Vettori featuring Brendan Diamante, Peter McGlashan and Ian O'Brien. In fact, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.720 in the eight T twenty World Cup tournaments since the 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.840 inaugural one in two thousand and seven, we've been runner 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.720 up to once, knocked out in the semis three times 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.680 and made the Super eight or Super ten three times, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.319 chaot in the group stage only once Until this week, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.280 twenty twenty four will be our t twenty Cricket World 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.920 Cup n It's horribilius on this front, in barring mathematical 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:16.920 and probabilities and freakis results in the coming minutes from PND. Yes, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.840 unfortunate for godfather of the basebagade. I'm joined on this 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.120 ignominious day by Dylan Plea, the ol Pleasi Dente of 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.920 the substep newsletter The Bounce DC. How did you enjoy 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.440 yesterday's Do or Die game in San Fernando. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.199 I really didn't enjoy it at all, Paul, but thanks 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.480 for leading me into that. In fact, I wrote just 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.280 to give my news letter The Bounce a bit of 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.240 a plug here. I wrote in The Bounce today that 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.040 New Zealand took the piss out of this tournament, and 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.000 the tournament ended. The tournament ended up taking the piss 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.480 out of New Zealand, and I said, it's already been 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.600 quoted somewhere, so it's obviously a line that's resonated with 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.559 a couple of people, and that's honestly how I feel 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.360 about it. You mentioned that two thousand and nine tournament, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.360 and I barely remember it, but I think even back 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.880 then we were still trying to convince ourselves that Teach 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.120 when he was just a flash in a pan that 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.440 it didn't really mean anything. It was that kind of 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.000 who cares, you know. It was the sort of tournament 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.120 that you'd happily takee Brenda Diamante you off to. But 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:21.280 now we can't say that. I mean, sure, there's still 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.079 a lot of us for which Teach when he is 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.600 our least favorite of the formats, but you're naive in 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.840 the extreme if you don't recognize its important part in 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.920 the future of cricket's fabric, and in fact there's the 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:40.400 financial driver of cricket. So yeah, in summary, woeful, we 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:41.519 got what we deserved. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.720 Yeah, it was very very tough watch. You say it 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.480 was tense. It was effectively a knockout game with New 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.160 Zealand now needing to sit pass Afghanistan on the table 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.160 to go through, and it's just. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.040 Yeah, it's not going to happen. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.840 Well, it's extremely unlikely, and we'll probably almost know by 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.840 the end of this podcast whether it's going to be 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.480 a thing with Papua New Guinea needing to absolutely annihilate 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.080 Afgunnis stand in their run chase for about one hundred 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.640 I think they got in the end in terms of 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.440 the conditions and the selections. I heard Luke Ronkey talk 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:17.280 about the surface the pictures being wavy, which is lit 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.040 adjective I hadn't heard before. There was a I mean 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.880 by Gary Stead standards. This was a knee jerk response. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:29.000 There were three changes, with Revenger coming in for Chapman, 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.400 with Nie coming in for Bracewell, and Tim Southy the 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.040 wily old Dog coming in for Matt Henry. Still no 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:40.360 room for ish Sodi before or as you said, and 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.280 watched that toss and saw those selections, Dylan, what were 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.760 your What did you think of what the New Zealanders 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:47.440 were trying to do? 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.000 Yeah, I thought it was really interesting because on the surface, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.120 all those changes were justifiable, and in fact, you could 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.920 have made a case for all four of those who 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.000 missed out in Diana to play in Trinidad. The problem 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.840 with it is that it's a reflection of how poorly 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.600 organized this campaign was. Because they knew they had their 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.720 big two games first up. The fact that they had 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.240 to make all those changes is a reflection of the 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.080 fact they got a badly roll in their selections in 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.120 the first one, and you cannot afford to do that 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.640 when you're going in without any preparation. So you know, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.799 Tim Salley played well, Jimmy Nish and bowled pretty well. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.279 Rationing didn't have a great day. But really what it 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.600 meant was you were taking out three players who might 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.760 not have been informed, but at least that actually played 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.280 a game of cricket in the Caribbean and placing them 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.839 with three guys coming in cold and again that just 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.240 speaks to me of a campaign that was neither here 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.800 of their harem scarem. But you know, you can make 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.719 a case for all of those changes being the right 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.840 thing to do. It just they should have been there 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.400 from game one if that was the direction they thought 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:55.880 they were. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:01.240 Going in, Yeah, that's right. And of course just the atmosphere, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.159 I've got to say it was sensation. I mean, this 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.960 is the spiritual home of West Indies, short form cricket, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.840 sensational noisy drums, airhorns, look, black people were quite quite 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.320 a few hammered people in the stands just having an 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.800 absolute hell of a time. Fully sold out eight thirty start, 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.400 heaps of traffic issues apparently people just storming their way 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.680 out of There's a port of Spain to get down there. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.599 I don't know if it's an down the coast. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:30.760 Yeah, and of. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:35.280 Course in someone maybe it was me. I wrote down 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.640 nineteen nineties cricket and nineteen nineties uniforms, and you know, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.440 the tail has come back to haunt us. In terms 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.760 of what actually happened. Of course came Williams and winning 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.720 the toss and electing to bowl so again New Zealand 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.920 not having to have the dewy ball in their hand. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.800 West Indies were got one hundred and forty nine for 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.039 nine with really and we'll talk about him some more 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.039 Chaffane rather for the absolute standout batsman in this match. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.320 Trent Bolt did very well, as did Tim Sauvey. The 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.240 talisman Nicholas Poor and was the second top scorer with seventeen, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.960 which says something about it. And in New Zealand, of course, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.359 a faltering chase one hundred and thirty six for nine 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.520 off twenty overs. You know, I think Joseph was excellent 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.839 and I'm sure you've got something to say about the spinners, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.400 but really, Western is wearing deep shit for so much 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.760 of this innings. I mean that was one for one, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.800 two for twenty, three for twenty one and four for 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.479 twenty two when Rodmin Powell was dismissed in the sixth 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.960 over and that that was the moment that Chaffeg Brutherford 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.719 came to the crease twenty two for four in the 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.839 sixth over that initial book. Maybe that opening stands are 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.520 in the middle stands are bowling from his old What 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.760 we thoughts on that dem outstanding? 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.839 I thought Trent Bolton, Tim Sauve. Tim Sauve looked like 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.320 he was bowling with a bit of a chip on 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.920 his shoulder, almost the kind of message that you know, 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.440 I'm the world record holder for wickets and T twenty eyes, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.600 what the hell are you thinking leaving me out at Guyana? 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.800 He was outstanding. Look, it got even worse than four 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.800 for twenty two for the Western these they were five 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.720 for thirty and then they just started to put together 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:15.040 these nickly little partnerships and this is where it got 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.560 a little bit muddled. And it's quite a I know, 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.040 T twenties bash and crash in that, but it's quite 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.960 a complex calculation that Kan Williamson then had to do 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.560 when the West Indies were losing those wickets. I think 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.640 he banked very early on the fact that it was 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.280 a seam friendly pitch it was go seam first, seam 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.720 always if you've got the chance, and we're going to 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.920 roll these guys in twelve overs. And maybe he was 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.160 even had a little bit of net run rate calculations 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.240 going on in his head as well, because of course, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.400 just beating the West Indies student guarantee New Zealand a 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.320 place in the Super eights, the net run rate would 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.840 quite likely come into consideration, particularly we Sidy's he met 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.520 on a bat beat Afghanistan. But I'm getting hopelessly ahead 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.560 of myself here. I think Kame Williamson tied himself up 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.200 in knots by thinking, right, we're going to get these 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.920 guys out, We're going to get these guys out before 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.880 the fifteenth over. I'm going to use before seemas I'm 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.120 going to part Mitchell sat because I don't really like 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.760 the left hand over the wicket to a left hand 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.080 a better and chaffein rather thand I don't like that matchup. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.840 Then hopefully I won't have to use it. And to 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:32.480 be fair to Williamson and who else was making those calculations, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.960 it was so nearly genius, you know, we Sidny's got 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.839 to one hundred and twelve to nine, one more piece 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.760 of good luck or one more piece of good cricket 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.680 with Sidney's are in the hatch for one hundred and twelve, 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.840 and that is a target that is a hell of 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.280 a lot more appetizing than one hundred and fifty, which 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.559 I always thought was at least twenty runs too many. 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.360 But what were your thoughts when you were watching Darryl 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.320 Mitchell I guess limbering up to bowl his first over 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.960 of the match in the nineteenth over, knowing that the 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.880 twentieth over was going to have to be bold by 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:13.320 a spinner. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.079 Whenever I see Daryl Mitchell warming up, I do think 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.640 of you, because I know so many times you've said, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.960 if Dale Mitchll was bowling, we are in deep, deep 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.319 trouble or have made a bad decision. It was possibly well. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.560 We weren't in debt trouble when he took the ball, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.160 to be honest, but we certainly were by the time 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.840 he gave the ball back to the umpire. Look, first 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.960 of all, totally agree with you on the seamers. Bolt, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.360 south Lockey and Nishan combined for forty nine dot balls 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.200 out of their ninety six deliveries, so effectively we're at six. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.920 There's sixteen overs went for ninety one. But unfortunately those 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.640 four overs from Mitchell, Santa and Phillips cost fifty five, 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.479 and of course there's at least two of those. We're 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.319 at the death. One bright shining light I thought was 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.560 the fielding. I thought we looked like kind of got 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.800 our mode show back. On that front. We took basically everything. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.840 The only drop was the rocket ship that hit Darryl 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.280 Mitchell in the guts and his blushes were saved two 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:11.960 balls later. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.160 When the when poor and hold out. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.320 But yeah, look, when Mitchell came on, I was thinking, 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.200 oh my god, is this a matchup O posession? And 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.520 then I realized, oh no, they've actually they've fully gone 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.160 for the kill here with the seam only attack and 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.720 it hasn't come off, and we've been caught short. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:30.360 You know. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.120 I was immediately thinking back to the nineteenth over against 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.920 Afghanistan where he went for sixteen. Gerbaz was still in 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.880 that felt like a hospital pass. I had a quick 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.520 lock just before we came on. Career bowling stats Darryl 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.320 Mitchell in twenty internationals seventeen overs, no maidens, eight for 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.920 one hundred and eighty three. I mean cheap as creepers, 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.840 so more than ten and over. It just seems like 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.240 a crazy plan to rely on him, and pretty unfair, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.720 and as you say, it felt like, well it was 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.119 obvious that it wasn't a plan, it was through necessity, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:09.280 and that seem only dogma seemed to be proven incorrect, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.200 and maybe that lack of faith in Mitchell Santner against 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.760 you know, I totally understand that the matchup thing, but 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.160 I do wonder whether we're just getting a little bit 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.920 kind of intoxicated by the statistics there, you know, to 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.520 give you one. You know, Chaffane's strike create to left 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.800 arm spin in his career as one hundred and eighty, 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.320 but Daryl Mitchell went at a strike crate of three 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.199 hundred and seventeen. So what would you rather have? I mean, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.680 it's sort of this crazy thing where a good bowler 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.959 like Santner has proven time and time again he can 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.839 bowl good balls to all kinds of batsmen in all 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.120 kinds of conditions, maybe except for a death over situation. 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.960 So yeah, I just I winced Dylan. Do you know 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.160 the one thing I would say, as some sort of 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.920 some form of devil's advocacy is that I think Mitchell 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.480 Sander is one of our great white bull bowlers. I 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.160 think he will go down as one of our eight 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:05.240 white ball bowlers. But I and this is anecdotal, I 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.319 have got no stats beside me to back this up. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.800 But I actually think he's a better good pitch bowler 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.240 than he is a poor pitch bowler. And what I 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.680 mean by that is he spends an ordinate amount of 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.400 his overs I feel, trying to outfox the better, trying 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.840 to get inside the batter's head, anticipate what the batter 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.240 wants to do, and then bowl a ball accordingly, and 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.120 so you get these amazing changes of pace across as 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.120 six balls of any given over in t twenty. I 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.319 think in a wicket like that, you just bowl your 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.319 best ball over and over and over again. And I 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.920 found it. And that's what the West Indies spinners did. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.199 And I find Sandler and these type of conditions very frustrating. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.959 Sometimes the batterers are almost waiting on his variation as 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:53.120 big loopy one or as you know, a rocket arm ball. Yeah. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.240 I just I really felt like reaching through the television 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.280 and shaking him and just saying, just bowl good balls. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.880 It's all you need to do on this wicket, so 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:10.000 that would be my one perhaps you know, a reason why. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.280 I kind of felt that Williamson might have been reluctant 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.000 to use Santanna earlier, which was a mistake. I mean 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.920 he should have, but that may be factoring into his 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.679 decision a little bit. Yeah. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.680 Yeah, And obviously we're talking in hindslight because that's what 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.360 we do. I mean, I think the other person that 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.560 we should talk about is Shaffan Rutherford. I mean, he 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.480 changed the game. The twenty five year old Guyanese all 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.920 round him. He's been playing in the he played the 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.800 Pakistan Domestic T twenty competition. He was in the Coldcutta 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.440 Night Riders in the IPL. Didn't play a game, I 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.080 don't think this year. It's sort of on the on 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.440 the beach like a lot of the New Zealanders. And 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.160 as we mentioned before, he came in the Western he 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.960 was were twenty two for four and the sixth over 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.360 and it was interesting, you know, he played an innings 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.640 of multiple gears. He was happy to hang around and 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.719 he had done the maths, you know, the interviews with 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.480 him after he said he was patiently waiting for this 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.600 for the top drawer in New Zealand seems to bowl out. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.920 He thought if they could survive that, then an opportunity 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.640 would emerge. Well, he did the bowling mass superbly and 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:16.280 then he farmed the strike magnificently in those last two overs. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.839 And I saw a stat which said it was the 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.320 highest temp wicket partnership in T twenty World Cups. It 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.640 was thirty seven or thirteen and good Akesh Mody contributed 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.800 zero runs to that partnership, which is quite amazing. And 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.920 I think what I would say about Rutherford as well 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:39.040 is that he's not just a Andre Russell slogger. He's 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:43.680 a genuine batsman who plays good cricket shots, not just 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.280 a basher in a blood. You know, he's been in 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.320 the shadows a bit and it was a real coming 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.239 of age innings. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.360 Yeah. I hear Colin Munro, who has played with him 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.880 against him in franchise cricket around the world, saying he's 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.720 very different to a lot of West Indian bathslim batters 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.720 and that he doesn't just try to access the leag boundary. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.880 He's more than happy to go the other way and 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.080 open up and go over the off side, which you 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.680 know was on full display sixty eight not out thirty 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.320 nine deliveries, and you're right, it was a slow burning 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.960 so burner to get himself into a position where he 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.320 could launch, and you six sixes is a pretty tremendous 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.720 and in the end, utterly match winning knock. You know 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.920 that he was the difference between the two teams full stop. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.720 So yeah, the West Indies struggled and then surprised their 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.560 way to one hundred and forty nine for nine. We'll 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.840 be back shortly. We'll have dig into this New Zealand 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:44.240 run chase. Welcome back to the BYC and Dylan. What 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.840 were your thoughts on this New Zealand run chase. I mean, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.360 fin Allum got a few, there was a bit of 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.720 rust about, i'd suggest, but my overall impressions were no 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.640 real momentum in the innings. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:16:00.000 Yeah, that's Deared right. Look, I feel like I'm saying 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.480 to pick on Devin Conway, so before I say this, 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.720 I would like to say that he sorted out as keeping. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.600 He nearly made a mess of the skier, but he 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.440 grabbed it, which was important. And then the third catch 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.360 that he took was a genuinely good wicket keeper's catch. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:19.080 Whether you are a part timer or whether you're the 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.400 reincarnation of Ian Smith, who I should point out, who 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:23.880 I should point out is not yet dead. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.480 But on that I'm just going to say there was 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.280 a bit of a kerfuffle around that. I don't know 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.360 if you clocked it, but there was a bit of 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.040 speculation that the ball had hit the Spider Camp wires 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.920 and there's a bit of a drama about that, and 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.480 I don't know whether it's pot proximity to those wires 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.040 and stuffed up conways run as well, but yeah, one 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.480 of those things where another little piece of weirdness that 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.480 you see in every single game of cricket. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.160 Yeah, so his keeping was good and I was hoping 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.640 that confidence he might have gained from that flowed on 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:57.040 to his batting. But again, just a very stilted, uncomfortable 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.120 little stay that ended with a top edge sweep attempt, 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.840 if I remember rightly off a sane and the problem 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:10.280 was that Van Allen did what we've asked him to do, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.719 which is to get through the tough patch and not 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.600 try to hit every ball for six. If you can't 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.680 do it. The only problem with him back playing quite 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.639 sensibly is that you're right there was no momentum, there 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.760 was nothing coming from the other end. Ratchen wasn't going 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.560 over the top and taking the pressure off him, and 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.320 he ended up, you know, playing a very pleasant chip 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.399 shot straight down the throat of the man of the 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.040 midwike at boundary. Kane Williamson did his for the second 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.679 game in a row. And Kan Williamson might be just 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.280 about the most intelligent cricketer that I've ever seen in 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.440 the way he sorts out his own game and situations. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.280 But there's twice in a row he's gone out trying 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:58.119 to batcut a spinner in tricky conditions with a slip 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.359 in place. This time he didn't even get it to 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.800 the slip. It was a finer edge and went to 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.720 the keeper and the look of horror on his face 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.520 I think was quite a good picture where his mind 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.680 it might be out at the moment. Darryl Mitchell, James Nisham, 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.080 neither of them could get any momentum at all. And 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.920 then Phillips, although his numbers looked pretty good at the end, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.040 he also struggled to get going. So yeah, it was 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:28.320 it was a chase that always felt ankle deep in mud. 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.800 A quagmire Chase. I've got to say that delivery, or 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.400 the delivery that Mitchell got was an absolute beauty, sort 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:43.879 of floated up full length, drifted in and then around 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.320 the bat and just clipped that off stump. It was beautifully, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.679 beautifully bald from it was Moti. I think, wasn't it 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:53.679 that one Mitch was by Moti? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:58.200 thought that Hassein Akil wasing sauce and good. I guess Moti. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.520 They took four for forty six off there over as 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.240 the left arm spinners, and they were their tricky customers 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.320 on good wickets and with a bit of a wavy 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.080 pitch to play with. I thought that they were excellent. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.480 And I saw a statistic I think it was in 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.480 crick Info which said that New Zealand have now lost 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.680 the joint most wickets to spin in the World Cup 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.399 level with Uganda, which is an ominous statistic. And I'm 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.560 sure that there's a matches played thing that we could 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.240 mess about with there. But I guess a few warning 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.440 signs or not even warning signs, just sort of red 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.280 alerts around how we play tricky spin. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.840 Yeah, and again maybe an indictment on the fact that 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.600 we decided it was the same pitch only yeah, yeah, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:40.199 well that's exactly right, it was. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.919 And you know, there are a few other things that 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.479 caught my eye around it. One was that Glenn Fillips 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.520 is the only New Zealand batsman to have faced more 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.280 than twenty five balls in the tournament so far, which 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.679 is a FRONTWEK statistic, and the biggest partnership in New 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.720 Zealand has put on is twenty three in this part 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.399 Cricket World Cup. Is that top order? Perhaps? I'm not 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:07.280 quite sure. There was quite a humorous, humorous moment when 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.120 the satellite outage came in, just as things were really 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.960 getting completely and utterly impossible. It did feel like the 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.719 TV gods were invoking some sort of mercy law with 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.920 New Zealand needing I think about twenty one runs and 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.480 over at that point. The other thing about just looking 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.240 at the raw numbers with you know, New Zealand, you 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.160 know that reaching one hundred and thirty six for nine 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.960 and falling thirteen runs short sort of makes it sound 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.400 closer than it actually was, I think, And I think 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:41.640 that the Satni fire works at the end were sort 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:47.280 of saved embarrassment. But New Zealand was significantly short in 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:48.040 this run chase. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.120 Yeah, I didn't see this sant the fireworks either because 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.800 I had stuff to do. A one set satellite outage 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:58.520 came I and I was following it on the on 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.439 the bull boy ball on my and yeah, so I 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.360 never actually I had not seen sand as three sixes, 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.919 but I'll I'll take advice on them. If they were 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.240 superb shots slugs chips. 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.520 They were good shots followed by some of the least 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.040 amount the least celebrated sixes in history and the most blase. 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.359 But you know the bowler not even reacting to them 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:24.520 and just going straight back to the top of his 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.080 mark and getting hit front of the six and then 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.639 rent to repeat. Just are very much some quite callous 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.679 kind of cricket there at the end, no one giving 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.400