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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Or here's Ryan Bridge on Heather dupers Ellen Drive with

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good. Afternoon. It is seven after four. Trump's

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Speaker 2: about to play god with the global economy. We're across

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Speaker 2: all the details of Liberation Day. This afternoon, health en

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Speaker 2: zed fronts on the case of mistaken identity. Turns out

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Speaker 2: they gave the girl adult drugs. We'll look at housing

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Speaker 2: as well, the markets, some early signs of a slow

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Speaker 2: takeoff for them. And Chris pink is here with a

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Speaker 2: crackdown on cowboy builders before end of seven. Brian Bridge Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Here we go again. Wellington is to New Zealand what

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Speaker 2: San Francisco is to the United States. They're both hilly,

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Speaker 2: earthquake prone, lovely character homes, stunning harbor views. Sadly, they're

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Speaker 2: both socialist run cities. And when I say run, I

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Speaker 2: mean run into the ground. And if you haven't visited

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Speaker 2: Downtown there's crime and beggars. It's so bad. In fact,

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Speaker 2: workers in Nancy Pelosi's federal building were ordered to work

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Speaker 2: from home. A Sanfran's standard newspaper report sums it up

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Speaker 2: quite nicely. I thought, bloody side walks, knife attacks and

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Speaker 2: a corpse. What workers face outside Nancy's building? Wellingtonian's do

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Speaker 2: you share the pain? Do you feel the pain? Are

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Speaker 2: you both failed cities or at least broken cities? Today

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Speaker 2: we learned why business people quit the mayor's so called

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Speaker 2: business advisory group. Basically, she and her staff weren't actually

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Speaker 2: listening to them. One prominent leader said the Golden Mile

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Speaker 2: project was essentially a business and vibe killer. Three years

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Speaker 2: of disruption in business closures, nearly one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: and for what a new bike lane in a footpath?

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Speaker 2: They've opted for cycle ways over sewerage, kindness not cops,

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Speaker 2: interviewed Tory Faro during her campaign for mayre. She promised

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Speaker 2: at the time twenty thousand new homes in Wellington along

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Speaker 2: the corridor of a project labour promised but never delivered.

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Speaker 2: Guess what. The homes haven't been either. Sanfran had the

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Speaker 2: infamous three million dollar toilet, a single public toilet in

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Speaker 2: a city neighborhood. This is not a joke. Thirteen square

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Speaker 2: meters and it would have taken them three years to

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Speaker 2: design and build. Yes, one loo, one very expensive pooh.

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Speaker 2: The public found out about this only because city officials

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Speaker 2: were planning a launch party in the town square to

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Speaker 2: celebrate the funding being secured. Just the funding being secured,

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Speaker 2: nothing actually delivered. Does this sound familiar to you? Luckily,

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Speaker 2: for the good folk of San Francisco, the thing was

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Speaker 2: never built. Eventually, private businesses got involved and the job

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Speaker 2: where I'm going here. Not all of these problems can

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Speaker 2: there's a theme, isn't there. Wellington and San Francisco are

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Speaker 2: socialist sister cities, failed by their leaders, elected on a

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Speaker 3: Spray and bridge.

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Speaker 2: It's ten after four news talks. Mb a popular weight

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Speaker 2: approved by Medsafe Today We're gov. A sister drug of

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Speaker 2: ozempic has proven effective to help people lose up to

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 2: So this way go v. This is for weight loss

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Speaker 2: And this is for weight loss. So how big would

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Speaker 5: I don't actually know what the rules are yet in

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Speaker 5: I'll try Waygovy, No, no, no, it's not like that at all.

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Speaker 2: Very odd. In the US, Senator Kobe sorry, Corey Booker,

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Speaker 2: Interesting the questions that the media people prepared for Nikola Willis.

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Speaker 1: The world wires on news talks, he'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all batten down the hatches. Time for leaders

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Speaker 2: around the world. Trump's tarifs are coming tomorrow. Here's Canadian

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Speaker 9: Mean, clearer to President Trump than our.

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Speaker 2: Call last week. I will reject.

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Speaker 10: I will reject all attempts to weaken Canada, all attempts

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Speaker 7: That will never ever happen.

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Speaker 2: A bad situation. Over in Australia, Dutton's getting involved.

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Speaker 2: A physical fight. Do we want to clarify that? Finally,

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, Hollywood director Oliver Stone has asked the US

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Speaker 2: Congress to reopen the investigation into the jfk assassination. Stone

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Speaker 11: Do not know and are not allowed to know anything

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Speaker 2: Well it but sort of undermine the CIA, wouldn't it

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Speaker 1: To five International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 2: Dan Madison's at US corresponding Dan Good out into you,

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Speaker 2: Hey Good afternoon, Right, So Liberation Day is NIA. Has

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Speaker 12: No, he's going to give a he being the president,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to look at this after five on

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Speaker 12: They are Attorney General Pambondi today said that they're going

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Speaker 12: I mean, this is not unexpected. The Trump administration had

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Speaker 2: Now, this guy who got up and did the twenty

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Speaker 2: So he lasted twenty for us, But so can you

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Speaker 2: just confirm for us he didn't tag break, didn't go

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Speaker 12: Time basically, And let's face it, that's the question that

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 12: Well, now here's the thing. He had too small, He

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Speaker 12: So he just went on and on and on and yeah,

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Speaker 12: he said a new record. I think it was close

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Speaker 12: And I got to tell you, the remarks were going viral.

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Speaker 12: Will this really change anything? I mean, he was going

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Speaker 12: make for good sound bites in the evening news and

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Speaker 12: on the radio. Absolutely does so. I mean good for

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Speaker 12: him to be able to do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, well, you guess so. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: what your politics are. I think just the fact that

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Speaker 2: you can stand up for that long little alone, not

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Speaker 2: paid for that long, and keep talking for that long

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Speaker 2: is kind kind of impressive.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan Mitchison, our US correspondent. Time

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Speaker 2: is eighteen minutes away from five, Ryan Bridge. I did

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Speaker 2: a thing once for radio which was thirty six hours

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Speaker 2: talkathon where you had I had to down at Sky

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Speaker 2: city inside a little glass box. It was raising money

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Speaker 2: for Child Cancer Foundation. Thirty six hours and yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: just say I did have to use the toilet. There's

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Speaker 2: no way you could do that length of time without

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Speaker 2: going to the toilet. I wouldn't have thought it's humanly possible,

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Speaker 2: but apparently it is. Eighteen minutes away from five news

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Speaker 2: talks here bat, what is Chris Hipkins saying about our

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Speaker 2: defense budget and why is he right? We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Plus after five Healthy and z fronts on this issue

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Speaker 2: with the mistaken identity.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payment certainty, right.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to Chris Sipkins and what he's saying about

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Speaker 2: defense shortly. Jason Wall's news Talk ZIB political editor with

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Speaker 2: us out of Wellington. Hey Jason, Oh, good afternoon, ran

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Speaker 2: so Departy MAHRTI currently fronting a press conference instead of

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Speaker 2: being at that privileges committee. What are they saying?

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Speaker 13: Indeed, it's all go down here. I've got one of

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Speaker 13: my reporters outside that select committee room waiting for Judith

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Speaker 13: Collins to come out. I got another one up stairs

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Speaker 13: on the black and white tiles at that press conference.

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Speaker 13: And here I am as the grand coordinator of it

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Speaker 13: all talking to you as well. So what do we

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Speaker 13: know so far?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 13: I'll fill you in on the latest with Tipati, Maris

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Speaker 13: Rawdy Waitit and Dabbie Nardi Wapakis still speaking to media.

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Speaker 13: But this little quote kind of sums up how Tea

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Speaker 13: Party Marty feel about the Privileges Committee process.

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Speaker 14: This is not about a silly little Privileges committee and

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Speaker 14: their silly little rules.

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Speaker 2: It's bigger than.

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Speaker 13: The very condescending of the committee in general and the

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Speaker 13: severity of what's happening right now. Judith Collins has recently

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Speaker 13: spoke to media within the last twenty minutes and said

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Speaker 13: she's never seen anything like it in her life. So

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Speaker 13: to catch you up, Tea Party Marty was supposed to

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Speaker 13: be in that select committee right now, but they've basically

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Speaker 13: boycotted it. They've vetoed it because they said they've been

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Speaker 13: denied a joint hearing, they weren't allowed an expert in

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Speaker 13: Ti Kangamadi to come and brief MPs. They said there

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Speaker 13: was scheduling conflicts. They wanted their senior Council Chris Finleyson

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Speaker 13: to be in there as well, and then a number

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Speaker 13: of other issues as well. So what are they going

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Speaker 13: to be doing instead, Well, here's what Debbie Nadi Wapaka

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Speaker 13: told media just moments ago.

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Speaker 14: So we will hold an alternative independent hearing here at

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Speaker 14: Parliament on Wednesday the May, and this was the original

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Speaker 14: date that we had been requesting, and we will make

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Speaker 14: sure that you're all aware of the details.

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Speaker 13: So the details are coming in. We're waiting to see

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Speaker 13: what's going on. I can see the press conference is

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Speaker 13: just finished. But essentially what they're doing is they're circumventing

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Speaker 13: the Privileges Committee process and doing something by themselves that

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Speaker 13: they say is going to be independent. I know the

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Speaker 13: question that you have does this have any teeth? The

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Speaker 13: answer is most likely no. You can't do something like this.

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Speaker 13: Privileges Committee is Privileges Committee for a specific reason because

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Speaker 13: it contains the high profile senior MP's tasked with dishing

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Speaker 13: out the discipline or recommending the discipline to the Speaker.

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Speaker 13: What they plan to do will have no bearing, it

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Speaker 13: will have no legitimacy in the eyes of Parliament. So essentially,

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Speaker 13: I mean Arawdi Wykditi called what was happening in the

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Speaker 13: Privileges Committee a kangaroo court. I think it might be

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Speaker 13: more apt to describe what they've what they've unveiled later today.

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Speaker 13: So in terms of the haka in the House, here's

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Speaker 13: what Arawaiti had to say about that. Oh we know,

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Speaker 13: we're not sorry. Would we do it again in a

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Speaker 13: heartbeat because this is who we are. But this doesn't

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Speaker 13: mean the Privileges Committee still won't make a ruling. So

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Speaker 13: we're waiting for Judith Collins to come out of that

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Speaker 13: Select Committee hearing today to find out what on earth

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Speaker 13: is the next step here?

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Speaker 2: So what time we're expecting her out?

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Speaker 13: Well, that's the thing. Everything has been completely thrown out.

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Speaker 13: The committee hearing was supposed to be from four ten

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Speaker 13: to five forty. We don't know if that's going to

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Speaker 13: be wrapping up sooner. So we're going to have somebody

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Speaker 13: that will be waiting to see what happens now.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep people updated then, Jason, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for that. Jason Will's News Talks heb's political

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Speaker 2: editor coordinating at all at Parliament for US afternoon, twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes away from five News Talk, SeeDB putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspakers, the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 15: Remember brook ben Belden. As she told us on the

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Speaker 15: program the other day, there was a plethora of change

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Speaker 15: coming this week under her watch. The latest is that

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Speaker 15: landowners will no longer be liable for recreational accidents. Health

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Speaker 15: and safety lawyer Grant Nical centers with us. Is the

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Speaker 15: law crying out to be reformed?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 4: This is a solution in search of a problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what about White Island?

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Speaker 15: Would that not be a good example of where things

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Speaker 15: got a bit muddy?

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Speaker 16: Yet?

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair and it's probably the only example

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Speaker 1: where we've seen things good a bit muddy.

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Speaker 17: But ultimately the court did its job and.

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Speaker 2: In the High Court the current Management Limited was acquipped.

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Speaker 15: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 15: the Rain driver of the Laugh News Talk said.

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Speaker 2: Been nine minutes away from five News Talk, sa'd be

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Speaker 2: we'll get to what's happening in Parliament to just a second,

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Speaker 2: We've got another update since we just spoke to Jason

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Speaker 2: Walls out of Wellington. Now first putin. He has come

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Speaker 2: out and said basically he wants he's put the call

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Speaker 2: out to Russian men and well men actually aged between

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Speaker 2: the ages of eighteen and thirty. He wants one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty thousand of them to join the military. It's

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Speaker 2: the biggest call up, biggest request from the Russians, from

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Speaker 2: the Kremens. It's twenty eleven odd thing for a man

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Speaker 2: to do. Who's about to end a war, right, obviously

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Speaker 2: not so this is quite significant. He wants one point

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Speaker 2: five million active servicemen in three years. That's an increase

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Speaker 2: of one hundred and eighty thousand. So he's starting by

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Speaker 2: the call up. I mean, you've got to take into accounttriction,

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Speaker 2: of course. So he's come out in year one saying

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Speaker 2: he wants one hundred and sixty thousand, and then he'll

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Speaker 2: see where he gets, and then the goal is to

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Speaker 2: add one hundred and eighty thousand to get to the

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Speaker 2: one point five million. Quite what he wants to do

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Speaker 2: with that military force, you better get you be the judge. Now,

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Speaker 2: speaking of defense spending, countries around the world, no surprise,

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Speaker 2: everybody's increasing their spending. And here there was a poll

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Speaker 2: out today that said around half fifty percent of us

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Speaker 2: think it's a good idea to increase defense spending. And

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Speaker 2: Chris Hipkins agrees with this here's what he had to

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Speaker 2: say this morning.

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Speaker 18: So if you think about the sort of capability that

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Speaker 18: we need in our defense force, I think there is

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Speaker 18: a recognition by New Zealanders that we need to have

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Speaker 18: good ability to participate in disaster response and recovery, provide

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Speaker 18: aid in the Pacific, particularly in the case of natural disasters,

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Speaker 18: and that you know, the defense force sort of would

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Speaker 18: struggle to cope with multiple events. So if there been

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Speaker 18: a similar event in the Pacific, for example, at the

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Speaker 18: same time as we were dealing with Cyclone Gabriel here

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Speaker 18: in New Zealand, then I think our defense force sort

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Speaker 18: of struggled to be able to deliver the sort of

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Speaker 18: thing that we would ask of them in those circumstances.

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Speaker 18: And we need to take that seriously.

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Speaker 2: All right. It's one of the world's longest dances. But

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Speaker 2: I agree with the gist of what he's saying. What

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Speaker 2: he's saying is it doesn't matter whether a majority of

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Speaker 2: the population want to increase defense spending. You need to

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Speaker 2: introcase increased defense spending. And no one's going to go

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Speaker 2: into a being called by a polster or go into

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Speaker 2: the voting booth and say I'm voting today on defense,

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Speaker 2: because it's just not front of mind, is that you

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Speaker 2: might say, you know, the hospital waiting list or the

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Speaker 2: cost of living or whatever. But defense is one of

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Speaker 2: those things that governments have to do and at the

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Speaker 2: moment it's a must have, isn't it in the world

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Speaker 2: that we live in right now? So must have. So

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Speaker 2: I agree with Chris Hipkins. It does have to be done.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter who disagrees with you. It's just

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Speaker 2: gone six away from five Bryan Bridge. So back to

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Speaker 2: Parliament for a second, because the Maori parties just have

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Speaker 2: their press conference. All the media is there so you

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Speaker 2: can imagine. So they are now alleging bullying of Hannah

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Speaker 2: rafferty Miipi Clark. She's the one that did the hacker

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Speaker 2: in Parliament originally that kicked all this Privileges Committee stuff off.

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Speaker 2: So now the Maori Party is saying she is the

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Speaker 2: victim of bullying after leading that harker. Have a listen.

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Speaker 14: We were particularly concerned for Hannah Rafitimipi Clark, who has

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Speaker 14: already been sanctioned in the House for her involvement in

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Speaker 14: leading the hakker and yet faces repeated proceedings. We said this, yes,

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Speaker 14: say emphatically we will not allow the bullying of Hannah

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Speaker 14: because of her profile. And we've become really concerned for

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Speaker 14: how Aldamatahi are being bullied in this place.

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Speaker 2: I mean anyone who if you can, if you're going

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Speaker 2: to do something in Parliament, if you're going to rip

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Speaker 2: up someone's piece of legislation, then you need to expect

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Speaker 2: that there will be some pushback on that. Does that

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Speaker 2: mean it's bullying from other members of the House. That's

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Speaker 2: up for interpretation, I suppose. Isn't it a really interesting

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Speaker 2: thing happened today and this is slightly related to Party

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Speaker 2: Marti because it's from Napui. An EWE leader in Napui

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Speaker 2: in Northland they saw a child smoking meth, a child

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Speaker 2: smoking meth and phetamine on the main street of Kaiko

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Speaker 2: and they came to the news and they said crime

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Speaker 2: in myth is at crisis point and we want help.

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Speaker 2: We want help from the government. But interestingly, and this

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Speaker 2: isn't a really sobering thought to Party Mardi and for

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Speaker 2: the Green Party, the EWI. The EWI leader who saw

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Speaker 2: the kids smoking myth on the streets of Kaiko said

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Speaker 2: this specifically, we need more police. So quite how that

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Speaker 2: squeazed with the policies of both of these parties. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but what he said was there are instances

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Speaker 2: where crime and violence could be averted if police were

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Speaker 2: on the beat, if we had more police. In Northland

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Speaker 2: police were alerted to escalating violence before it happened, but

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Speaker 2: they didn't have the numbers to intervene to stop it.

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Speaker 2: Literally prevention, which is what the government has been saying

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Speaker 2: about police all along. It's what police say about police.

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Speaker 2: It's what most people think about police, because not if

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Speaker 2: you're into party MARII or the Greens anyway, at least

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Speaker 2: in up we agrees. It's coming up to five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Newstalk said, be healthy, end Z on the mistaken identity

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy allan drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be good evening in a seven half for five Health

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Speaker 2: indeed's reporting to this case of mistaken identity is out today.

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Speaker 2: This is the eleven year old autistic girl who was

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Speaker 2: mistaken for a twenty year old woman somehow. Doctor Richard

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Speaker 2: Sullivan is Health Indeed's Chief medical officeries with me this evening. Hello,

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Speaker 2: Hi Ryan, Yeah, good, thank you. So does anyone get

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Speaker 2: fired over this or on?

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Speaker 6: Ryan?

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Speaker 7: So, look, you know, this has obviously been a very

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Speaker 7: you know event that just should never happen in our

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Speaker 7: health system. And as you're read, we've done two full

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Speaker 7: reports on that, one around the event and one around

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Speaker 7: the escalation. And I think what's clear here is that

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Speaker 7: you know, our staff we're doing everything and that faith,

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Speaker 7: we're working hard. There's no doubt there's some human error

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Speaker 7: curred here, but we just need to learn from that.

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Speaker 7: Related to the escalation, you'll see one of the best

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Speaker 7: advice in that recommendation is to look into an HR

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Speaker 7: process to see what, you know, what shall be undertaken

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Speaker 7: and what further action should be taken from that. But

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Speaker 7: that's a piece of.

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Speaker 2: Work, right, that's the fact that you didn't tell the

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Speaker 2: minister's on time, right or in time?

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Speaker 7: That's right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So coming back to this young girl, how do

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Speaker 2: you go from so staff she comes in staff saying,

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Speaker 2: oh she doesn't she looks like a child. She doesn't

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Speaker 2: look like an adult to then admit ministering adult medications

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Speaker 2: anti psycholic adult medications.

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Speaker 7: Yes. So the background of app which again you're seeing

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Speaker 7: the report, is that, as you say, you know, the

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Speaker 7: police brought her and she was in the ED initially,

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Speaker 7: and the staff team who were looking after there, you know,

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Speaker 7: YSED exactly as you've described, within a short period of time.

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Speaker 7: Then the misidentification, if I put it that way, from

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Speaker 7: the best came through confirming it was as somebody else,

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Speaker 7: and so the team needing it, which was a different

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Speaker 7: team than the one that's seeing you earlier, then talked

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Speaker 7: that as the identification, there's no other means to identify

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Speaker 7: you unfortunately, which again you'll see in the report, and

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Speaker 7: that comes down to some of the recommendations we've made.

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Speaker 7: And so from then on, the team provided that, you know,

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Speaker 7: with the best information they had recognizing that.

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Speaker 2: Well, well you could argue the best information they had

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Speaker 2: was actually from the ED staff who said this is

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Speaker 2: a child.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they said this is a child. I

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Speaker 7: think there was a yeah, I was going to say

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Speaker 7: there was. There was. There was no questions raised as

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Speaker 7: to you know, you have an undidentified patient in the

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Speaker 7: d the questions are raised as to who is this

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Speaker 7: And there was, as you say, commentary, the flap of

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Speaker 7: child and that's I guess that's what we call them.

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Speaker 2: Out of the find she refused the oral medication that

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Speaker 2: she was offered, this young girl, and then you injected

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Speaker 2: her with meds adult meds anyway, is that common? I mean,

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Speaker 2: can you just inject anybody who does who refuses medication?

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Speaker 7: So I'd probably look at it slightly differently. So this

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Speaker 7: they believe they were treating a patient who had significant

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Speaker 7: metal health illness who was under the Mental Health Act,

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Speaker 7: and so they were providing care based on that patient's

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Speaker 7: history and and so they were delivering therapy that they

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Speaker 7: would normally deliver the patient so that they thought she had.

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Speaker 2: If you're under the Act, then that can be done.

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Speaker 2: But for your average Joe Bloggs is not under the Act.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that you could walk into a to

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Speaker 2: a high hospital and be injected with something you didn't

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Speaker 2: want to be injected with. Right, So it was the

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Speaker 2: mistaken identity that led to the injection. Indeed, okay, what

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Speaker 2: was she doing that required anti muscular drugs?

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Speaker 7: So she was one of the challenges with you know

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Speaker 7: how people present through to our health systems is that

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Speaker 7: different people, different illness can kind of mimic other situations.

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Speaker 7: So her symptoms were mimicking, you know, what you would

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Speaker 7: see with somebody who had an underlying mental health illness.

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Speaker 7: And so you know, again the staff, based on you know,

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Speaker 7: what they knew, you know, with thiss information they had,

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Speaker 7: were treating her with somebody who they believed had the

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Speaker 7: mental help illness, who, as you're seeing the report, had

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Speaker 7: a history of symptoms escalating, and so they were treating

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Speaker 7: with that lens rather than knowing that it was somebody different.

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Speaker 2: Can you give it to some plain language? What was

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Speaker 2: she doing like convulsing or punching or being angry? What?

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Speaker 7: No, just just just just just demonstrating, you know, symptoms

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Speaker 7: of somebody who you know could have an underlaying mental

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Speaker 7: health illness.

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Speaker 2: But what are the symptoms?

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Speaker 7: I probably you wouldn't want to go into too much detail,

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Speaker 7: but you know, she was stressed, you know that when

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Speaker 7: you could imagine she was stressed because she was identified

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Speaker 7: as somebody that she wasn't, so that they were doing

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Speaker 7: that to kind of manage her in the environment.

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Speaker 2: But what I guess what I mean, people will be

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Speaker 2: wondering how stressed was she, you know, like, was she aggressive?

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Speaker 2: Was she violent? Was she throwing her hands around? Was

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Speaker 2: there a need for her to have anti muscular drugs?

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Speaker 2: Or do you just sedate people because they're under a

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Speaker 2: section and it's easier to do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I don't I don't from what I understand,

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Speaker 7: I don't believe she was what you've described. But as

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Speaker 7: I say that, I think that the issue here is

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Speaker 7: that she was presented. They believe she was somebody else.

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Speaker 7: They were following their normal protocols and pathways when they're

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Speaker 7: providing that care. And as I said, I think that

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Speaker 7: you know, this is human era the staff and good

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Speaker 7: faith were delivering and obviously it wasn't until later that

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Speaker 7: day when the police appropriately identified her that obviously we

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Speaker 7: discovered that the caresh'd hack was not okay. And I

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Speaker 7: think that's really important to be clear. Ryan, you know

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Speaker 7: it's not okay that this happened, and you know, you

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Speaker 7: know we're going to do everything we can to make

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Speaker 7: sure this doesn't happen again in our system.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I appreciate your time. Doctor Richard Sullivan, Chief

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Speaker 2: Medical Officer, Healthy and Sad I should say, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are texting in where were the parents?

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Speaker 2: We don't know the answer to you know, the caregiver

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Speaker 2: or the parents to this young girl. We don't know

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Speaker 2: the answer to that. I don't know the answer to

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Speaker 2: that because I don't know who she is, because healthy

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Speaker 2: and sad doesn't say because it's confident you know private

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Speaker 2: patient information, which you can understand too. So I understand

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Speaker 2: why people ask the question. I've asked the question too,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't have the answer for you. It

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Speaker 2: is thirteen minutes after five. Parliament's Privileges Committee has had

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Speaker 2: a hearing today. This is on the Treaty Principal's Bill,

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Speaker 2: and the Hucker and Party Marley didn't turn up. And

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Speaker 2: then they held a press conference separate to this. Separate

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Speaker 2: to this, they held a press conference announcing that they're

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Speaker 2: going to hold their own hearing.

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Speaker 14: So we will hold an alternative, independent hearing here at

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Speaker 14: Parliament on Wednesday, the sentence of May. And this was

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Speaker 14: the original date that we had been requesting, and we

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Speaker 14: will make sure that you're all aware of the details.

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Speaker 2: David Seamen was the AT Party leader. He's the one

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Speaker 2: the hacker was directed at he's with me now, Hi David, Hey, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: So what do you think the punishment punishment should be

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Speaker 2: because we don't know what the committee is going to

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Speaker 2: say yet, but what should the punishment be if you

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Speaker 2: don't turn up?

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Speaker 20: Well, it's up to the Privileges Committee and I'm not

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Speaker 20: trying to influence them, but I hope they listened to zb.

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Speaker 20: The Privileges Committee should make an interim report to the

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Speaker 20: House of Representatives, that's the full Parliament and say we

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Speaker 20: are finding these people uncooperative with our procedures, and we

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Speaker 20: ask that the House resolve that they be sustained without

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Speaker 20: pay until such a time as their front to the

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Speaker 20: Committee and comply with its request. A very simple thing

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Speaker 20: to do, because what you just heard is a group

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Speaker 20: of people who will continue to undermine the institution of Parliament.

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Speaker 20: And therefore, all of those New Zealanders, to the overwhelming

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Speaker 20: majority of New Zealanders from every background, who actually are

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Speaker 20: pretty grateful to live in one of the most successful

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Speaker 20: parliamentary democracies in human history, they're something their knows that

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Speaker 20: all of us, and they should be told no uncertain terms,

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Speaker 20: you're certainly not going to keep taking your seat in

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Speaker 20: the House and get paid well, you can't respect the

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Speaker 20: house's procedures, just as anyone else in any workplace would

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Speaker 20: face consequences for behaving this way.

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Speaker 2: I had to argue with that. David Seymour at Party Leader,

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time this afternoon. It is quarter past five,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge nineteen after five, property sales are the highest

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Speaker 2: in years, but the number of unsold houses is also

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Speaker 2: at a record high. Auckland real estate company Barfoot and

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Speaker 2: Thompson said March was a record month for house sales,

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Speaker 2: the most since twenty twenty one. But while listings and

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Speaker 2: sales are up, Tony Alexander says, the price they're selling

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Speaker 2: for hasn't gotten any better. So where does this leave us.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a picture a snapshot of the market. Resident

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Speaker 2: economist at Opah's Partners, Ed McKnight's with me now ed,

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Speaker 2: good evening.

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Speaker 16: Great to talk to you, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So what's behind, First of all, the behind the rising

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Speaker 2: number of unsold properties.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we're seeing a lot of listings on the market

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Speaker 16: depending on what you look at than terms of the

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Speaker 16: data source, somewhere between thirty two thousand up to forty

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Speaker 16: thousand properties that are currently sitting there on the market.

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Speaker 16: There's a couple of things happening there. There are actually

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Speaker 16: more properties that are selling, but we're equally seeing a

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Speaker 16: lot of supply coming onto the market as well. And

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Speaker 16: then on top of that, those listings that are coming

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Speaker 16: to the market are also sitting around for a lot longer,

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Speaker 16: so we're seeing the days to sell a property. It's

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Speaker 16: up from about fifty five days, up from fifty one

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Speaker 16: days last year up to fifty four this year. So

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Speaker 16: it's not just about more listings, it's also that those

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Speaker 16: listings are sticking around.

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Speaker 2: And then what the owners. The vendors basically don't want

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Speaker 2: to drop the price, don't They not willing to go

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Speaker 2: below a certain amount, so they're happy to sit there.

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Speaker 16: It's a bit of a game of who's going to

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Speaker 16: blink first? Are those sellers going to capitulate to what

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Speaker 16: the market is actually willing to offer. And it's quite

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Speaker 16: fascinating because I see this myself with friends who are

871
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Speaker 16: selling properties that they're saying, oh, my real estate agencys,

872
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Speaker 16: I could flick this property off, but i'd really have

873
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Speaker 16: to lower the price. Well, if that's market price, that's

874
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Speaker 16: the market price. You either decide to sell it or

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Speaker 16: you sit there on the market. Some sellers are saying,

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Speaker 16: you know what, maybe we'll just sit there on the market,

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Speaker 16: not take that listing off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard a bit of that too, A lot

879
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Speaker 2: of talk that maybe where you know, at the bottom

880
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Speaker 2: of the curve was starting to come out of it,

881
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Speaker 2: and there's there's some lower cost suburbs that are starting

882
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Speaker 2: to pick up, you know, two three four percent in price.

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Speaker 2: Is that what is that happening or is that defigment

884
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Speaker 2: of people's imaginations.

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Speaker 16: Oh, that is happening. If we look at Inbicagol City,

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Speaker 16: where we've got some of the cheapest properties in the country.

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Speaker 16: I mean you can buy two or three houses down

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Speaker 16: there for the price of a single Auckland property. House

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Speaker 16: prices an Inbicagol up four percent year on Yes, Southland,

890
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Speaker 16: which is you know, just kind of surrounds in Chicago,

891
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Speaker 16: they are up six percent per year. And a lot

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Speaker 16: of the west coasts of the South Island, where again

893
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Speaker 16: we've got properties that you can still buy for three

894
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Speaker 16: hundred thousand dollars are seeing a bit of growth. Of course,

895
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Speaker 16: when those properties are a bit cheaper, a four percent

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Speaker 16: or a three percent might be ten grand worth of growth,

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Speaker 16: So it's not necessarily massive numbers, but as a percentage're

898
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Speaker 16: seeing a bit of an uptick. Wherever house prices are

899
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Speaker 16: a little bit more expensive, like in christ Church, they

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Speaker 16: are only kind of up one percent year on year.

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Speaker 16: Auckland's still losing a little bit of ground. House prices

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Speaker 16: there down two percent year on year, but it's kind

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Speaker 16: of middling growth. Ryan, you know, there's nothing spectacular happening

904
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Speaker 16: at the moment, but it does seem to be a

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Speaker 16: bit of a recovery. Here's one stat you might like.

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Speaker 16: Over the last six months, we've seen house prices go

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Speaker 16: up seasonally adjusted house prices go up five out of

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Speaker 16: those six months. The six months before that, house prices

909
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Speaker 16: went down five out of those six months.

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Speaker 2: So we see what we're saying.

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Speaker 16: Is a bit of a tune there. But it's not

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Speaker 16: like we're going to go through a boom and we're

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Speaker 16: going to be up another ten percent over the next

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Speaker 16: twelve month.

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Speaker 2: We're not taking off in rockets quite yet. I do

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Speaker 2: love a good house stat ed, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Ed McKnight, resident economist that Opah's partners twenty two minutes

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Speaker 2: after five The who, the how, the when and the

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Speaker 2: where on Trump and his tariffs.

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Speaker 1: That's next informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: on hither duper cellan drive with one New Zealand let's

922
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Speaker 1: get connected news talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: Five Trumps tariffs are coming tomorrow. He's basically going to

924
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Speaker 2: play god with the global economy. And here's the stuff

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Speaker 2: we should know. Presser is at four pm Eastern time

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Speaker 2: in the Rose Garden at the White House. That's nine

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Speaker 2: am our time, So set your alarms if you're a

928
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Speaker 2: late sleeper. The reason it's late over there is because

929
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Speaker 2: they want the markets to be closed when he announces it.

930
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Speaker 2: This is big league stuff. The guy has the power

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Speaker 2: to make countries, to break countries, to break markets and

932
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Speaker 2: tire industries. Here's some stats for you. Goldman Sachs odds

933
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Speaker 2: on a US recession are up from twenty percent to

934
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Speaker 2: thirty five percent. Moody's They reckon could cost worst case

935
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Speaker 2: scenario five point five million jobs that would see the

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Speaker 2: unemployment rate go from around four percent now to seven

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Speaker 2: percent GDP could be chopped one point seven percent from

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Speaker 2: peak to trough. For context, that is about two thirds

939
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Speaker 2: the equivalent of two thirds of the growth of our

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Speaker 2: economy expecting this year. Reciprocal tariffs are basically broad based tariffs,

941
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Speaker 2: taxes on its across all countries. They've been tight liped.

942
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Speaker 2: The White House has on so far on carve outs

943
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Speaker 2: or exemptions, but some countries are hammering the phones, begging

944
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Speaker 2: for them on Downing Street. They are panicked. Although Starmer

945
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Speaker 2: says he's staying calm and keeping cool, they're working the phones.

946
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Speaker 2: Talk of getting an economic deal has turned into just that.

947
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Speaker 2: They now say it's likely they going to get hit

948
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Speaker 2: like everyone else. India they've been on the phones, which

949
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Speaker 2: is ironic. They're notorious for trade protectionism there, so it's

950
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Speaker 2: a bit rich from them, but their sheer market's been

951
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Speaker 2: felling the heat. Vonder Lan is readying the war chest.

952
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Speaker 2: The EU says they will fight back. Britain won't, neither

953
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Speaker 2: will Vietnam, neither will New Zealand. Luxon's message today was

954
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Speaker 2: much the same as starmers, keep calm and carry on agriculture,

955
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Speaker 2: as we've been talking about since the minute that Trump

956
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Speaker 2: tweeted about this is on the cards. The US overtook

957
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Speaker 2: the Aussies this year. Is our second largest export market

958
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Speaker 2: for goods thanks to red meat that could hurt, but

959
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Speaker 2: applied equally to the Arntentennian and the Aussie beef, perhaps

960
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Speaker 2: not so much. It all depends on the number ten

961
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Speaker 2: percent we could stomach. Twenty five percent a bigger problem.

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Speaker 2: The real threat is the world's biggest economy going into

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Speaker 2: recession and the flow on effects of that. The smart

964
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Speaker 2: money has already been piling into gold and European stocks.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow we find out what America First really means for

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Speaker 2: the rest of US. Ryan Bridge, twenty eight. After five

967
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Speaker 2: your news talks, there'd be. We'll get to the huddle afternows.

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Speaker 2: Next we'll talk to Jeremy Hutton by the way from Milford,

969
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Speaker 2: will talk us through all of this. After six and next.

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Speaker 2: The German guy in Napier not wanting Americans in his house.

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Speaker 1: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

972
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Speaker 1: drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand. Let's get connected news dogs. They'd be.

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Speaker 20: Good evening.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty four minutes away from the sixth, Jack

976
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Speaker 2: tam and Trishuson standing by with the huddle in just

977
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Speaker 2: a second. Right now, Judge Judy has emerged from the

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Speaker 2: Privileges Committee. She just walked out and this is over

979
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Speaker 2: the party, Marti. And where you know they didn't turn

980
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Speaker 2: up to the committee meeting. They were supposed to come

981
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Speaker 2: to the meeting. They are going to hold a separate thing,

982
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Speaker 2: basically a theatrical media show day on the seventh of May.

983
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Speaker 2: I think it was the day the original hearing was

984
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Speaker 2: meant to happen. Anyway, Judge Duty has just come out

985
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Speaker 2: and she was asked if the committee had made a

986
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Speaker 2: decision on how the Malori Party MPs would be punished

987
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Speaker 2: for the Huckett in Parliament.

988
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Speaker 21: So we've reached a decision on the next steps.

989
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Speaker 19: That is what I can tellue.

990
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Speaker 2: They're giving them another chance.

991
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Speaker 21: We will be offering and I think it's fair enough

992
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Speaker 21: actually been at that we'll be offering one further opportunity

993
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Speaker 21: for the three members to individually come before the committee

994
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Speaker 21: and answer questions and that will be the final offer.

995
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Speaker 2: And then what we don't know, do you get the

996
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: Sergeant at arms to march through and pull them out

997
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: of their offices and drag them into the so called

998
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Speaker 2: Powerful Privileges Committee. What is the next step? Well, Judith

999
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Speaker 2: didn't say, Judge Duty didn't say, But I guess we'll

1000
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Speaker 2: have to wait and see, won't we Because they're not

1001
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Speaker 2: going to bend over now and a bow down now,

1002
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: are they. They're going to just keep doing what they're

1003
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Speaker 2: doing and head on with the press conference on the

1004
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Speaker 2: seventh of May twenty three away from six Ryan Bridge.

1005
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Speaker 2: So there's a Bloken Napier. He's in the news today.

1006
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Speaker 2: He owns a B and B which is on his property.

1007
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: He's turning away Americans who support Trump. Mario Schmidz's name.

1008
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Speaker 2: He owns the Bluff Lighthouse BMB in Napier. If you're American,

1009
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Speaker 2: he doesn't want you. Mario's with me now, good afternoon, Yeah, hello,

1010
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: So what brought this on? Why don't you want any

1011
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: Americans coming? Will Republican Americans?

1012
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 22: Well, I'm I'm a Staun's Ukraine supporter, have been for

1013
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 22: the last three years and I've been doing my best

1014
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 22: here in New Zealand trying to help Ukraine from New Zealand.

1015
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Speaker 22: So that's my motivation. My four goals in the last

1016
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Speaker 22: three years has been in Ukraine and I will do

1017
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Speaker 22: anything from New Zealand to help. So that's my motivation.

1018
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: And the Trump stuff is that after the meeting they

1019
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: had in the Oval office, you didn't like that.

1020
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Speaker 22: Well, that's when I got triggered.

1021
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

1022
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 22: I literally threw up. I've never thrown up, and somebody's

1023
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 22: that that just my blood was boiling.

1024
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Speaker 5: Threw up.

1025
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I literally threw up. Yeah, my blood was boiling.

1026
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 22: After I've watched the interview live.

1027
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Speaker 2: I hope you didn't have I hope you didn't have

1028
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Speaker 2: any guests in the house.

1029
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Speaker 22: No, No, I did not have. It happened, yes.

1030
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Speaker 2: Right, do you have many guests in the house?

1031
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Speaker 22: Uh?

1032
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Speaker 4: No.

1033
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Speaker 22: The house is separate, so it's a separate The apartment

1034
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Speaker 22: is separate. So I don't customers, I guess it is

1035
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Speaker 22: completely separate.

1036
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Speaker 2: But on the same same property but.

1037
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Speaker 22: Different the same property, but not inside the same house.

1038
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Speaker 22: You know, I housed people. They have they have their

1039
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Speaker 22: own rooms, their own kitchen, their own bassroom and everything else.

1040
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Speaker 22: I don't engage with the customers, Mario.

1041
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: I think you should probably be able to do what

1042
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Speaker 2: you want with your own property, whether you want people

1043
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Speaker 2: to stay there or not. But we did ask a

1044
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: lawyer today and they said, you can't discriminate based on

1045
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: someone's political opinion. So what do you think about that?

1046
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 22: Yeah, I thought that, so before I sent both the emails,

1047
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Speaker 22: I mean, I canceled two customers to to a US

1048
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Speaker 22: guests and and thefore I sent the email to the

1049
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Speaker 22: to the booking company. When I sent it to the

1050
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Speaker 22: to the to the traveler into the emails were intercepted

1051
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Speaker 22: because of the language, because of what I said about Trump.

1052
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Speaker 22: Obviously that was picked up on on some sort of system.

1053
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 4: Would you say we're reviewed.

1054
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Speaker 22: I mean, I think the email is published. I think

1055
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Speaker 22: the email is published. I basically just said I can

1056
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Speaker 22: read it to you if you like.

1057
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Speaker 2: But well, not the whole thing, but the juicy bit,

1058
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Speaker 2: the juicy bits.

1059
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Speaker 22: Mario, Well, what was what was published in the paper today? Basically,

1060
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Speaker 22: you know, I don't agree. You know, I said the

1061
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Speaker 22: US is turning to fascism, and and I don't agree

1062
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Speaker 22: with that. I don't agree with I can.

1063
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Speaker 2: See why for a B and B booking website, the

1064
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Speaker 2: word fascism might might be a little complicated or loaded.

1065
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Speaker 2: So anyway, so you've said to these guests they can't

1066
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Speaker 2: come and it's only if they're Republicans and you're standing

1067
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: by this, you're not worried about the consequences.

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Speaker 22: I will cancel all Americans from now. And I only

1069
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Speaker 22: just gave them the options because these two people are canceled,

1070
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Speaker 22: were already booked. But who else is now booking? I

1071
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Speaker 22: will just tell them they can't book I carry on

1072
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Speaker 22: doing that.

1073
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Speaker 2: Even Democrats.

1074
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Speaker 22: Now, well, yes I can't. Just you know, say one

1075
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Speaker 22: or the other. I'm going now for the My my

1076
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 22: grandson is half American, my my my in laws are Americans.

1077
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Speaker 22: I love American people. I'm not. You know, it's not

1078
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 22: like I don't like American people. You know, my son

1079
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Speaker 22: looks for American company.

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Speaker 2: It's just a Ukraine issue. That's your big bug beer, Mario, Mario,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Thanks for coming on with me. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, Mario, that's Mario Schmidt, owner of the Bluff

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Speaker 2: Lighthouse BMB in Napier. If you're American, just don't think

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the ones

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Speaker 1: with worldwide connections that perform, not a promise.

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Speaker 2: It is nineteen minutes away from six now, Jack Tame,

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Speaker 2: host of Saturday Mornings here on ZIB and Q and

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Speaker 2: a's with us Hey Jack Hey right, and Tristius and

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Speaker 2: Hus and Willis pr Hi Trish Hi Ryan. Now what

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Speaker 2: do we start with? Maybe the Maori Party and Judge

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Speaker 2: Judy Who's and the Maulori Party now saying Trish that

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Speaker 2: they're going to have a separate which is not a

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Speaker 2: legal process or anything. It's just for a pr purposes,

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Speaker 2: but they have a separate trial almost on in May.

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Speaker 2: To respond to this, what do we make of all

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Speaker 2: of this?

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Speaker 23: I think it's an absolute waste of time and energy

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Speaker 23: in Parliament when there are a lot of very big

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Speaker 23: things to be focused on. The point about Parliament is this,

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Speaker 23: It is a rules based system.

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Speaker 4: It's like a court.

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Speaker 23: The rules are very clear and if you go to Parliament,

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Speaker 23: in my view, you sign up to those rules, and

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Speaker 23: in particular the Privileges Committee. I mean, I remember when

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Speaker 23: I first went to Parliament. I don't know, this is

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Speaker 23: twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 13: To work there, you know.

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Speaker 23: To be hauled before the Privileges Committee was a very

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Speaker 23: rare thing. MPs took it extremely seriously because you need to,

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Speaker 23: and it's Parliament's way of having real checks and balances

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Speaker 23: on behavior in the House. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 23: to party Maori have to really get with the program

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Speaker 23: here in Parliament and follow the rules.

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Speaker 2: But clearly they're not. And I mean they even said

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Speaker 2: today they said, oh, I don't care what the consequences are,

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Speaker 2: so Jack, do you? I mean, what about this idea

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Speaker 2: from David Seymour that if they don't come, you dock

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Speaker 2: their pay.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's my understanding that it is actually their rights

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Speaker 4: to what not to attend the Privileges Committee hearing. So

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Speaker 4: they don't. They're not at this stage at the very least,

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Speaker 4: they're not compelled to go to the Privileges Committee, and

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Speaker 4: they have the other instances in which MPs haven't attended,

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Speaker 4: although usually those MPs have made submissions. You know, I've

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Speaker 4: said this before on the huddle. We just have to

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Speaker 4: remember it. This is exactly what these MPs want. The

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Speaker 4: more that people half and half and stomp their feet

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Speaker 4: and say these guys are breaking the rules, the happier

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Speaker 4: they will be. They are activists, they are not legislators

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Speaker 4: at the stage that they don't put forward you know,

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Speaker 4: carefully worded bills or you know, or pieces of legislation

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Speaker 4: that that have gone through you know, careful drafting processes.

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Speaker 4: They are agitators, professional agitators. And the more that many

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Speaker 4: of us half and paf and stomp our, the happier

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Speaker 4: their supporters will be because they will feel like these

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Speaker 4: MPs are going in there and to what they think

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Speaker 4: is sometimes a racist institution and pulling the fingers to

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Speaker 4: the system, and that's exactly.

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Speaker 2: What they want. Yeah, I think you make a good point,

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Speaker 2: but I think the words you use professional protesters. If

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Speaker 2: you take away the money, trish, then they're just protesters.

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Speaker 2: And then do they turn.

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Speaker 23: Up well, well, I'm thinking should I pull back on

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Speaker 23: my huffing and puffing stock, Well, we'll put a lot

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Speaker 23: of energy into it. Well, and this is a decision

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Speaker 23: for them because Parliament is not you know, I often

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Speaker 23: worry about this myself, watching where Parliament is going, that

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Speaker 23: there are MP's in the house on the fringes who,

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Speaker 23: it seems to me, turn up there to make social

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Speaker 23: media clips rather than turning up to make legislation. And

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Speaker 23: I think what we're the sort of performative stuff today

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Speaker 23: is an example of that.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting, this is the polarization of politics in real

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Speaker 4: time right that the parties on the fringes always benefit

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Speaker 4: when they're seen to be fighting each other. So as

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Speaker 4: much as to Party Mahudi will be loving the attention

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Speaker 4: they're getting today, David Seymour will equally be loving the

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Speaker 4: attention that slamming to Party Maldi gives him. And I

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Speaker 4: think it's really important to remember that even though there

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Speaker 4: are really strict rules that govern both the Standing Orders

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Speaker 4: in the House and the Privileges Committee, to Party Malori

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Speaker 4: does have an avenue through which they can submit to

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Speaker 4: the rules. So if indeed they think and we think

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Speaker 4: that in modern New Zealand there should be a space

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Speaker 4: for hakker and greater acknowledgment of te kung and that

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Speaker 4: kind of thing in Parliament, there is a process by

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Speaker 4: which you can contribute to changing the rules to allow

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Speaker 4: for that kind of thing. So far, we haven't gone

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Speaker 4: through that. So far the rules state that hakker and

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Speaker 4: that kind of thing aren't allowed in parliament. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: like I said, it benefits all of the parties on

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Speaker 4: the fringes of this when they're seen to be fighting

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Speaker 4: over this stuff. It's just read meat to the base.

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Speaker 2: Jack time Trisherson on the huddle, I had a thought

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Speaker 2: while Trish was talking, maybe we ban like we have

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Speaker 2: in schools band cell phones at Parliament. Maybe that would

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Speaker 2: help the problem.

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Speaker 1: Back in a minute the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's

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Speaker 1: International Realty achieve extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

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Speaker 2: Jack Tim Trisherson on the huddle tonight. So more than

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Speaker 2: half of us regret our career choice. This is according

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Speaker 2: to new data today by Sikh, mainly due to insufficient

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Speaker 2: earnings and a lot of us don't realize until it's

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Speaker 2: too late in life.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 2: Trish, you obviously past that point now, but if you

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Speaker 2: could have your time again, would you pack a different career.

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Speaker 23: I'm going to overlook the little barb in there.

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Speaker 16: Ryan, but.

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Speaker 23: I well, I have changed Korea in in my lifetime,

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Speaker 23: my extended lifetime.

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Speaker 13: So I went.

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Speaker 23: I started as a journalist, went into working as a

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Speaker 23: press sect in parliament. Then I went back to journalism,

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Speaker 23: and then I went back to the kind of work

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Speaker 23: that I do now in corporate affairs. I absolutely love

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Speaker 23: what I do. I think every day what a privilege.

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Speaker 23: You never know who's going to ring what you need

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Speaker 23: to learn, and I have never regretted it for a moment.

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Speaker 2: Jack, what about you?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I have done that really weird

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Speaker 4: thing that everyone used to do one hundred years ago

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Speaker 4: and no one does anymore, And that I've been with

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Speaker 4: the same company for like coming up twenty years now,

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Speaker 4: which is crazy I started with I know, I started

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Speaker 4: with one company when i was nineteen and I'm now

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Speaker 4: thirty eight. So yeah, so it doesn't happen that much anymore.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't change my job. I absolutely love my job. However,

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Speaker 4: given the state of our industry, Ryan, I do think

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Speaker 4: about possible second and third careers. And the curious thing

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Speaker 4: for me is that when I started in the job,

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Speaker 4: you know, I never had any hesitation in going out

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Speaker 4: and reckon mending it to other people. But now when

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Speaker 4: I'm asked to speak at universities and journalism schools and

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Speaker 4: that kind of thing, I always feel like I need

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Speaker 4: to caveat everything I say by saying, look, it's a

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Speaker 4: great job, you have amazing experiences, meet interesting people, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to make any money and your job

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Speaker 4: security absolutely sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to be honest, Jack. I remember Bernard

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Speaker 2: Heckey came to our journalism school in Wellington, and he

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Speaker 2: said exactly. He was really honest. He said, Now he said,

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Speaker 2: it'll be fun, but you'll be made redundant at least once.

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Speaker 2: And I always wanted to think up until last year.

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, well he was wrong about one thing,

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Speaker 2: and then boom and it comes so no very good.

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Speaker 23: My daughter is doing her communications degree and when she

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Speaker 23: chose that, which is what I did, I was laughing

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Speaker 23: and I said, oh, why do you want to do that?

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Speaker 23: And she said, cheeky monkey and she said, oh, so

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Speaker 23: I can have big gial money. And I said, oh,

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Speaker 23: what do you do when you have but gil money?

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Speaker 23: She says, you have recurring hair appointments.

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Speaker 2: So there's well, there you go. Everyone just go and

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Speaker 2: do PR. Thanks Trash and thanks Jack. Nice to have

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Speaker 2: you guys on. Jack Tame, host of Saturday mornings on

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Speaker 2: News Talks EB and for twenty years at TV and

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Speaker 2: z now at Q and A, trishus and suson willis PR.

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Speaker 2: It is eight minutes away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Ard Radio powered by News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks mb SO, nine o'clock tomorrow morning we find

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Speaker 2: out about Trump's tariffs, I will definitely be tuning into that.

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Speaker 2: Here is what Chris Luxon, he was on the country

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Speaker 2: today and he was asked about Liberation Day, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the heaper new tariffs, including potentially tariffs on our agricultural

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Speaker 2: exports going to the United States, which is no our

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Speaker 2: second largest market. And the PMC is basically, don't panic.

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Speaker 7: The bottom line is New Zealand's relatively well positioned to

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Speaker 7: compare to other countries in the world. We've done the

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Speaker 7: very best weekend to build good relationships within your administration.

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Speaker 2: He does have a point, and yes, we are building relationships,

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Speaker 2: but that does not mean we get an exemption. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: sound like Trump's basically going to do any exemptions on tariff.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this after six. Jeremy Husson

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Speaker 2: from Milford will be with us. We're also going to

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Speaker 2: talk about the restaurant in Auckland. It's quite an interesting

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Speaker 2: model and I've been to this restaurant. It's on Ponsonby

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Speaker 2: Road called Coal Now. The owner is quite well known

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Speaker 2: in the industry. They are going to close the store,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to keep the lease. I'm assuming their

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Speaker 2: leasing not only keep the building and then allow pop

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Speaker 2: up restaurants to come in and operate out of it.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting model. I've seen it done in retail before.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it done when you're talking about like clothing stores.

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Speaker 2: There's a place around the corner from me that does

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Speaker 2: pop up in art installations and clothing stores, but I've

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Speaker 2: never heard of it done before, a pop up restaurant

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Speaker 2: dedicated restaurant's space. So we'll talk to the owners about

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Speaker 2: why they're doing that. Also, Gavin Gray's in the UK

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Speaker 2: for us, so lots more to come. And of course

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Speaker 2: Jeanete Tipstrainey and the juice that she's got from the

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Speaker 2: beehive over Adrian Oran's resignation. So today she did a

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Speaker 2: story OAA documents are out and looked at what happened

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Speaker 2: in the background around Adrianaw's resignation. Nicola and Adrian have

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Speaker 2: a meeting, don't know what it was about, all of

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Speaker 2: its secret, and then he resigns within a week and

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Speaker 2: then announcements meant to happen later happens basically straight away.

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Speaker 2: Before that, Ben Binanki Reserve bank knees up that they

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Speaker 2: had which cost us one hundred thousand dollars by the way,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't go to in the end, but anyway,

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Speaker 2: So there's text messages, there's the OAA documents, and then

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Speaker 2: there's the juice from the Press secretary who was feeding

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Speaker 2: information to Nicola Willis ahead of media interviews about this.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's juicy, and Janet Strainey's got all the details

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Speaker 2: for us after six News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Insurance and Investments,

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Speaker 2: You got evening at a seven half the six News

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Speaker 2: Talk ZIB we'll look of the Adrian or Nichola Willis

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Speaker 2: beef Milford Markets tonight on Liberation Day eve and the

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Speaker 2: restaurant closing but stay staying open sort of doors will

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Speaker 2: remain open to some business. And Gavin Gray's in the

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Speaker 2: UK right now. The government this evening is announcing a

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Speaker 2: suite of changes to crack down on cowboy builders and

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Speaker 2: on shoddy work. This is beefing up the ability to

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Speaker 2: basically take the disciplinary action against dodgy builders. It's also

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Speaker 2: going to become easier to work out if a builder

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Speaker 2: has been suspended. Chris Pink is the minister. He's with

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Speaker 2: me now, good evening.

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Speaker 23: Good evening to you.

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Speaker 2: So talk us through it. What kind of action can

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Speaker 2: be taken against a shoddy builder? And how do you

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Speaker 2: know who a shoddy builder is?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good question.

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Speaker 24: I mean, at the moment, there are disciplinary boards that

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Speaker 24: are meant to maintain standards when a builder does poor work,

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Speaker 24: But at the moment, they can't actually initiate their own investigations.

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Speaker 24: And if councils don't tell them about bad work that's

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Speaker 24: going on out there, then the cowboys and just to

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Speaker 24: be clear, it's relatively few out there, but the high

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Speaker 24: profile cases make everyone nervous. You know, they sort of

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Speaker 24: go un detected and they rec havoc. And what that

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Speaker 24: means is that new Zellas don't have so much confidence

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Speaker 24: in the system as they should.

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Speaker 2: So how will this change? What will be the process? Then?

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Speaker 2: If it does, the house will have to tell. Are

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Speaker 2: they going to be forced to tell or what?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 24: No, I mean, I'm certainly encouraging counsels to be more

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Speaker 24: upfront about that rather than simply complaining about, you know,

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Speaker 24: some bad work that's going on out there, and to

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Speaker 24: be fear some of them are, but as with all

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Speaker 24: these things, that's a bit inconsistent out there. But not

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Speaker 24: only will the boards be able to initiate investigations on

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Speaker 24: their own account, they'll also have greater powers to take action.

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Speaker 24: So if they've given a training order, we're a bit

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Speaker 24: more you know, remediate action is needed on the part

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Speaker 24: of the builder. They'll actually be able to enforce that.

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Speaker 24: They'll also be able to make it clear when there's

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Speaker 24: been disciplinary action, because at the moment, the consumers are

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Speaker 24: bit in the dark. You know, you think you're classic

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Speaker 24: young couple looking to buy there or build their first home,

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Speaker 24: and it's not clear on the website that someone who's

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Speaker 24: lost their licensed building practitioner license for disciplinary reasons. So

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Speaker 24: a bit more clarity I think will help in that

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Speaker 24: regard as well on a buyer beware kind of basis.

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Speaker 2: Right, And who sits on those boards, Oh well, I.

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Speaker 24: Mean they're expert people who've got a bit of background

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Speaker 24: also maybe sometimes a legal background, and the point of

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Speaker 24: them is to do the occupation or licensing stuff, and

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Speaker 24: you know, we just need to give them the tools.

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Speaker 24: And actually partly it's about the powers that they can exercise.

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Speaker 24: But even having codes of ethics so that when there

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Speaker 24: is unethical action, and you know, sometimes is fraud or

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Speaker 24: bad behavior or insolvencies magiced away by a company closing

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Speaker 24: up shop and then setting up down the road else

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Speaker 24: arounder a different name, so there'll be a mechanism for

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Speaker 24: that to be held to account.

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Speaker 2: Code of ethics sounds a bit wishy washy. Is that

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Speaker 2: actually going to make a difference? Is that actually? I mean,

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Speaker 2: what's in it?

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Speaker 24: Well, I mean, I think it's a suite of tools,

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Speaker 24: but it's basically I mean, you know, it sounds a

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Speaker 24: bit technocratic, but actually at its heart, it's about having

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Speaker 24: some standards that the reasonable person would think, Well, if

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Speaker 24: I'm going to have someone take a you know, tens

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Speaker 24: of thousands of dollars as a deposit alone, put put

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Speaker 24: more on the line, you know, half a million dollar

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Speaker 24: of a house new build, for example, then there's got

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Speaker 24: to be some standards and accountability. And again just to emphasize,

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Speaker 24: most builders are actually great people during great work, totally

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Speaker 24: of cowboys sort of ruin it forever.

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Speaker 2: So you hand your ten thousand dollars over they do

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Speaker 2: something unethical, what can you actually do about it with

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Speaker 2: your code of ethics. What's the practical application of it?

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Speaker 2: What do I do?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, well, I mean if there's a code of ethics

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Speaker 24: in place, and in a couple of instances, so electricians

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Speaker 24: and plumbers, there isn't one. So we need down a

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Speaker 24: place so we can say, well, actually, if you've behaved

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Speaker 24: in an unethical way, there's actually something to measure. It's

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Speaker 24: not just someone sitting on a board somebody's saying tut tut.

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Speaker 24: There's actually something against which they can be held accountable

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Speaker 24: in terms of the ten or twenty or more thousand

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Speaker 24: dollars worth of deposit, for example, on a relatively modest

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Speaker 24: renovation that might be you know, that's at the moment

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Speaker 24: that goes back to that problem of the council being

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Speaker 24: on the hook for having signed off work. If that's

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Speaker 24: done in a dodgy fashion, that's not picked up. Okay,

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Speaker 24: part of a bigger reform that we do need to

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Speaker 24: do for that accountability.

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Speaker 2: Something happens to the new I've had a new bill built.

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Speaker 2: Something goes wrong, either the guy takes off with my

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Speaker 2: money or they do a bad job on the roof whatever.

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Speaker 2: I go to this board do it and I say, look,

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Speaker 2: they've breached the code of ethics. What can the board

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Speaker 2: then do to this person, Well, they.

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Speaker 24: Can suspend or cancel their license. And at the moment, though,

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Speaker 24: see that's actually not much good to you. So your

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Speaker 24: question's actually a good one because that highlights a bit

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Speaker 24: of a current gap in the system. Because that doesn't

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Speaker 24: get you year ten or twenty thousand dollars back. No,

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Speaker 24: that doesn't get you deposit back, because it doesn't get

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Speaker 24: me a new roof. No it doesn't. But I mean

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Speaker 24: there are other mechanisms and unfortunately you know the gaps

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Speaker 24: and those as well, and so we're looking at it

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Speaker 24: the whole libry, right.

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Speaker 2: But this is about dealing with the trade themselves. This

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Speaker 2: is about their registration. And so the moral of the

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Speaker 2: story is if they're not registered, then don't go near

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Speaker 2: them and check if they're registered first, because if they've

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Speaker 2: been deregistered, is for a reason. Great advice, all right, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: very good. Well wish I didn't have to give it.

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Speaker 2: But there we are, Chris Penk Building and Construction Minister,

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Speaker 2: and I saved you on the show. It is twelve

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Speaker 2: after six News Talks VB. We'll get to Jane to

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Speaker 2: training from The Herald.

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Speaker 1: Next, it's the Heather dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio empowered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EBB News TALKSB. It has just gone quarter past six.

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Speaker 2: So Elon Musk spent millions and millions and millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars trying to get this conservative state court judge elected.

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Speaker 2: Turns out and it was probably wasted money. It looks

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Speaker 2: like the Democrat Susan Crawford is actually on course to

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Speaker 2: beat the conservative rival for this job. The voting took

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Speaker 2: place today in the Midwestern state and apparently the most

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Speaker 2: expensive or the most money ever spent on a state

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Speaker 2: supreme court race. I guess that's what happens when you

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Speaker 2: have a billionaire entered with his funding. Right, it's gone

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Speaker 2: quarter past six.

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Speaker 12: Brian Bridge, back.

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Speaker 2: To the juicy details around Adriannall's resignation. Jane to Petriney

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Speaker 2: is The Herald's Willington business editor. She's been looking into this. Jane,

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Speaker 2: good evening. Hi, Ryan, it's so best Oia. You've got

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Speaker 2: back in a week. While what's what's the gist?

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Speaker 25: It was a pretty juicy day for me. We got

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Speaker 25: some documents back from Nikola Willis's office. They showed a

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Speaker 25: couple of things. Firstly, they showed that Adrian the Reserve

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Speaker 25: Bank had planned to announce Adrianall's resignation on March ten.

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Speaker 4: That would have.

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Speaker 25: Been after the Reserve Bank hosted a massive conference with

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Speaker 25: international economists from around the world, but that announcement actually

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Speaker 25: ended up being made on March five, the day before

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Speaker 25: the conference. So I remember on March five, it was

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Speaker 25: all a scramble. The Reserve Bank ended up calling a

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Speaker 25: press conference late in the day and this was all

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Speaker 25: happening as economists were arriving in news Zellan from around

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Speaker 25: the world ready for this big conference the following day

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Speaker 25: to mark thirty five years of inflation targeting. So what

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Speaker 25: we don't know is why was that announcement brought forward?

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Speaker 25: And you know what prompted that, because it's pretty embarrassing

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Speaker 25: for New Zealand to host a big conference and for

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Speaker 25: the big news of the day to be the governor

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Speaker 25: of the Reserve Bank has just resigned. So that was

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Speaker 25: one little nugget. The other one was that the documents

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Speaker 25: show that Nicola Willis's press secretary prepped her and said, look,

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Speaker 25: here's a list of questions that journalists might ask you

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Speaker 25: about Aw's resignation. A couple of the questions the press

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Speaker 25: Sects said might be asked were around meetings that Nicola

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Speaker 25: Willis had with Adrian or specifically a question he said

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Speaker 25: media might ask is, did or raise his voice with you?

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Speaker 25: And were their disagreements with you? So we don't know

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Speaker 25: if a meeting that happened before he resigned, you know

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Speaker 25: how feisty it was, whether people raise their voices or not.

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Speaker 25: But the fact that the pres sects has prepared Nichola

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Speaker 25: Willis for questions around that, you know, it tells us

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Speaker 25: somewhat juicy and interesting story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is interesting because it's not like and

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Speaker 2: we can't say whether Adrian all raised his voice in

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Speaker 2: that meaning because we were there and clearly Nichola Willis

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Speaker 2: is not telling us, But you would you would ask

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Speaker 2: the question, do the pre sects prepare for every meeting

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Speaker 2: that the minister has? Do they say, Hey, someone might

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Speaker 2: ask you where the voices were raised? You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? You can kind of make your own inference,

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Speaker 2: I suppose, can't you.

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Speaker 25: Well, that's the thing, and you know we did ask

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Speaker 25: Nicola Willis at the time. I asked, actually was Adrian

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Speaker 25: or sick, and I asked was the misconduct involved, so

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Speaker 25: that these were fair questions that we did ask. My

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Speaker 25: biggest sort of my guess as to why he resigned

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Speaker 25: would and this is just a guess, would be that

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Speaker 25: he clashed with Nichola Willis over the amount of government

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Speaker 25: funding the Reserve Bank would receive. And also they clashed

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Speaker 25: over the amount of capital that the Reserve Bank requires

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Speaker 25: banks to hold to make them strong. So those are

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Speaker 25: two things. It's probably about that, But you know, I

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Speaker 25: feel like details will just keep trickling out over.

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Speaker 2: Time, slowly but surely. A couple of big issues, couple

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Speaker 2: of big personalities, and maybe some raised voices. Jena, thank

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Speaker 2: you for that. Genati OFUS training Insit Herolds, Wellington Business Editor.

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Speaker 2: It is nineteen minutes after six year. On news talks,

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Speaker 2: there'd be people are rightly pointing out, actually wasn't just

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Speaker 2: one billionaire who was in that race in the US.

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Speaker 2: It was also George Soros, who was there for the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen after six, we'll get to Milford and the markets

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Speaker 2: bracing for Trump Day tomorrow. You w inch closer to retirement,

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Speaker 2: it's natural to start thinking about your finances. Those questions

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Speaker 2: that pop up from time to time, especially with the

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: cost of living the way it is today. How much

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Speaker 2: will I need? Have I got enough? How long is

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Speaker 2: the money going to last? These can be pretty confronting

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Speaker 2: questions for you, as we all know, but you're not alone.

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Speaker 2: There are most people's minds as retirement approaches. And while

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Speaker 2: it's difficult to answer these questions for sure, the expert

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Speaker 2: team at Milford can help guide you in the right

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Speaker 2: direct direction. And they are an expert team at Milford.

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Speaker 2: These talks six two news talks there b Jeremy Hutton

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Speaker 2: from Milford's with near the Rose Garden. Nine am tomorrow

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Speaker 2: our time. It's all on for young and old. What

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Speaker 2: are you looking for in this Trump announcement, Jeremy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, Ryan. So financial markets have been very

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Speaker 9: focused on this tariff event, and you're right nine am

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Speaker 9: tomorrow morning. I think a lot of investors and traders

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Speaker 9: will be glued to their screens. But from a New

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Speaker 9: Zealand perspective, you know, there's still a little bit of

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Speaker 9: hope that we can fly under the radar. We won't

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Speaker 9: be able to avoid the universal tariff, which is one

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Speaker 9: limb that seems very likely to come in. That will

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Speaker 9: be negative for some of our key exports into the US,

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Speaker 9: so think wine, meat and some dairy products. But then

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Speaker 9: on the reciprocal tariffs, that's another limb. We do have

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Speaker 9: very low tariffs of US imports into New Zealand, so

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Speaker 9: that's a theoretical tick in the good box for US there.

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Speaker 9: And then the third limb, so Trump does seem very

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Speaker 9: fixated on US trade deficits. Now, the US does have

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Speaker 9: a small trade deficit with New Zealand, but again it's

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Speaker 9: not too bad, especially compared to some other countries like China,

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Speaker 9: so maybe also a small tick for US there. But

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Speaker 9: of course, these things are moving around a lot, and

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Speaker 9: we're just gonna have to wait and see for tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: Global markets have been moving around a lot, although they've

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Speaker 2: settled down a bit this week. How's the inset expen today.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, global markets in general have had to sell off

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Speaker 9: on this tariff news uncertainty though though you're right, you know,

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Speaker 9: a small rally this week, but you know, to some extent,

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Speaker 9: markets have been assuming the worst news for now with

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Speaker 9: this uncertainty, and you know that they're they're seeing these

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Speaker 9: tariffs as stagflationary, so you know, in other words, that's

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Speaker 9: very low economic growth and potentially inflationary as as prices

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Speaker 9: could rise as well, and markets do hate this stagflationary environment.

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Speaker 9: They're getting none of the interest rate cuts that they

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Speaker 9: are expecting at the start of the year and also

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Speaker 9: some potentially lower earnings from companies going forward, so it

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Speaker 9: could be a bit of a bit of an ugly situation.

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Speaker 9: And you know, as a response to this, you know

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Speaker 9: the techiv NASDAK that's off around twelve percent from the

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Speaker 9: February highs. You know, the SMPS off eight percent, but

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Speaker 9: the has feared a little bit better. It's only our

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Speaker 9: five and a half percent, And that does make sense

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Speaker 9: given the relative lack of focus that these tariffs have

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Speaker 9: had on New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's hope it stays that way. Hey, although

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Speaker 2: maybe not for Fisher and Pike with healthcare. They're quite

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01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 2: exposed to America, aren't they.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Fisher and pikeal healthcare that appears the most impacted

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Speaker 9: from the New Zealand the insiet X companies, and that

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Speaker 9: share prices down around eleven percent since all the tariff

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Speaker 9: news began. And effectively, this is Fisher and PIKEL. They

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Speaker 9: you know, they're manufacturing a decent amount of product in

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Speaker 9: Mexico which they then export into the US. And this

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Speaker 9: is exactly the type of business that has been right

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Speaker 9: in Trump's firing line. He's trying to reshure this type

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Speaker 9: of business. A few counts to that though, you know,

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01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 9: Fisher and PIKEL is a fantastic business, and it operates

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Speaker 9: in a very defensive sector, which is medical devices. So

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Speaker 9: they do have a few mitigants they can go to,

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Speaker 9: and they have released the market already that they think

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01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 9: they can offset around half of the cost of these tariffs,

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Speaker 9: mainly by just switching their exports to or from New

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Speaker 9: Zealand from Mexico. So they do have a few options.

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Speaker 9: But remember Fisher and pikel it is our largest listed company.

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Speaker 9: It's around fifteen percent of the INSIDEX index, so you

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Speaker 9: know these tariffs can still have a material impact on

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Speaker 9: the local market.

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Speaker 2: Here, nice one, Jeremy Nice. Heavy on the show is

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Speaker 2: always Jeremy houton Milford Asset Management. It is twenty six

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Speaker 2: minutes after six. You're on news talk zeb Ryan Bridge,

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01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: smart people at Milford. I do a podcast with them,

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01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: and they were talking last year. Mark Riggle, who's one

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01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: of their senior guys, were talking to me last year

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01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: about European stocks, saying, you know, they're undervalued and all

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01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, and I'm like, let's talk about

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01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Well it turns out he was onto something

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01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: because European stocks are up more than thirteen percent this year,

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01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: and actually what you should be investing in. Because here's

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: my free advice. Don't listen to me.

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Speaker 26: This is no constitute financial advice.

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Speaker 2: Certainly does not and it's completely unrelated to everything that's

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: gone before it, but is defense stocks in particularly Germany,

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: but anywhere in Europe at the moment doing quite well

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01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: because they're spending a whole bunch of money on defense.

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Speaker 2: People think the war with Ukraine will be over soon

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01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 2: and it's not America, So quite a lot of upside.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven after.

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Speaker 1: Six, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with Ryan Bridge and players, insurance and investments, grew

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Speaker 1: your wealth, Protect your future.

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 19: We're never are for, We'll never We're never up for.

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Speaker 19: We're never up for.

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Speaker 1: You harden from now.

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Speaker 19: There's something in the way that you talk.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's twenty five away from seven. You're on

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB. We'll get to Gavin Gray in the UK next.

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Speaker 2: Right now, one of Akans best known restaurants to couples

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Speaker 2: is shutting down one of his businesses, but with a twist,

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Speaker 2: Sid and chant sadahwit on the French Cafe and Sid

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Speaker 2: and his wife are shutting the upon Sumbie Road restaurant Cole,

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: which will be disappointing for many, but the premises won't

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Speaker 2: be empty for long. They have been taking applications for

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01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: a new venture to take over the space with the

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Speaker 2: bonus of mentorship from the couple. Chant is with us

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Speaker 2: this evening, good evening, good evening, Ryan, How are you

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Speaker 2: very good? Thank you. I'm sad to hear about Cole.

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Speaker 2: I went and loved it. What's the decision? What has

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: forced the decision or made the decision?

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean, you have to be fiscally responsible, and

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Speaker 17: we've been seeing a downturn for about the last three

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Speaker 17: or four months, and we've been putting in our own funds.

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Speaker 17: But you know, you can only hope for so long

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Speaker 17: and try and change things around offer a cheaper deals.

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Speaker 17: But we've decided we need to pull the pin on

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Speaker 17: this concept and try something different.

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01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 2: And what is that something different?

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Speaker 17: Well, we thought about it. We think that the market

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01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 17: has changed with the cost of living crisis, and discretionary

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01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 17: spend has gone down for most of the middle class.

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Speaker 17: So I think there is some other concept out there.

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Speaker 17: We've got some ideas of what we would do with

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Speaker 17: the space, but we feel like, look, when we started

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Speaker 17: in two thousand and nine, we started our first restaurants

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01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 17: that dark and we were helped along with a Biolovely

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Speaker 17: mentor who was also an Angel investor, and he took

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Speaker 17: a chance on this not known couple and gave us

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Speaker 17: some funding and we wouldn't be here without that angel investor.

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Speaker 17: So we want to do the same thing and see

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Speaker 17: if there is a better idea out there than what

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01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 17: we have for the space and hopefully meant to someone

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01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 17: who's a budding chef or front of house or someone

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01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 17: who's got hospitality in their blood take the next step.

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Speaker 2: So how does it work? Will they have to pay

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Speaker 2: for the space and then you know, pay for the

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01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: basically take on the lease or are you stub leasing?

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01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: How does it work?

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01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 17: So it's not a sublaze, it's what of course, it

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01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 17: had to have a viable business plan, which is why

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01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 17: we've got a panel of expert's helping us. We've got

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Speaker 17: Kelly Brett, We've got of course the magazine, Marissa bidduo

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Speaker 17: of the Restaurant Association, and well known restaurant Al Brown

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Speaker 17: helping us make this decision to be fair as well

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 17: to all the applicants because we know so many people

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Speaker 17: in the industry ourselves and we don't want to be

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01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 17: favoring somebody. So they need to have a good business plan,

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01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 17: describe their concept to us and the panel will decide

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01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 17: they need. The business has to be a business and

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Speaker 17: pay rent and help us with the rent. But all

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Speaker 17: the chattels are there, the spit out, which is expensive,

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01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 17: it's just two years old, is there for them to

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01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 17: use all these things. If you were to try and

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01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 17: buy a business, you'd have to redo and you know,

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Speaker 17: you'd have to buy the place, You'd have to get

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Speaker 17: a liquor license, you'd have to do all that. All

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01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 17: of the setup is there. So they don't have to

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Speaker 17: buy the business. They don't have to take the responsibility

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Speaker 17: of the lease either, because the lease remains an un name.

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Speaker 17: Concept does not work out for whatever reason, the LEAs

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Speaker 17: still are and they can walk away.

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Speaker 2: Ah. So it's a sort of a risk free trial

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01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 2: for someone who's wanting to get into it. Or maybe

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Speaker 2: someone who does takeaways at the moment has never done

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Speaker 2: a restaurant that exactly.

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Speaker 17: It could be someone with a food truck. It could

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Speaker 17: be someone who's running a cafe somewhere else in the country,

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01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 17: someone in the Cargill Hokatika. We don't know. Someone who

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01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 17: wants to try the hand and the big smoke on

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01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 17: once and by road and see if their concept will

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Speaker 17: be appreciated by the current market and there's no risk involved.

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,480
Speaker 17: We're there to help mentors, so is the Restaurant Association.

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01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 17: We just want to see someone else succeed and give

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01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 17: them that leg up in life.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Chring

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Speaker 2: to really appreciate you coming on the program. That's chance

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Speaker 2: that Dawit who's a restaurateur with us. It is twenty

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Speaker 2: one minutes away from seven. I've been to that restaurant.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed my meal and I really enjoyed my cocktails.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I'm sad it won't be there anymore.

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Speaker 2: Rayam Bridge, right, we'll get to the UK before the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour, though. All behaving differently over there.

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Speaker 2: It depends where you go. The reaction to Donald Trump

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01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: and they're all kind of I guess bracing for impact.

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Speaker 2: Is that the way you would put it. You've got

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Speaker 2: vonder Lane and the EU saying we're going to fire back,

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01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: so whatever you hit us with, we are ready, we're

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Speaker 2: going to hit you back just as hard. And then

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01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: you've got the British approach, the Downing Street approach, which

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01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: is well, we're just going to wait and see whatever happens.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to do anything immediately. We haven't got

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01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: anything prepared and we're still talking behind the scenes hoping

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01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: that we can get some kind of economic deal. The

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01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: big loser out of all of these, well out of Europe,

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Speaker 2: really is potentially going to be Ireland because they're so

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Speaker 2: reliant on American company. He's headquartered there and that is

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Speaker 2: something that a trend that Trump wants to reverse. So

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Speaker 2: reliant on for GDP but also for tax. So it'd

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Speaker 2: be interesting to see what happens with Ireland anyway. Gavin

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Speaker 2: Gray in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Yet, if it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mayor's Insurance and Investments,

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Speaker 1: Grow your Wealth, Protect Your Future, News Talks Dead.

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Speaker 2: B, News TALKSB seventeen minutes away from seven. Gavin Gray's

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Speaker 2: our UK correspondent, Gavin Good evening, Good evening, right now.

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Speaker 2: You're expecting the worst but hoping for the best. Is

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Speaker 2: anyone seriously expecting an exemption here or do you think

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01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: that's sort of wishful thinking? Yeah?

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Speaker 27: I think that's wish for thinking. Now there's been a

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Speaker 27: real tone, a change in the tone from the Prime

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Speaker 27: Minister and ministers about what they're expecting from so called

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Speaker 27: Liberation Day from Donald Trump and those impending tariffs. The

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Speaker 27: UK has a pretty similar amount of imports to exports

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Speaker 27: in the US, and therefore it had been hoped unlike

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Speaker 27: the EU, which imports, or rather exports a lot more

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Speaker 27: to America than it imports. There have been hope perhaps

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Speaker 27: that along with this announcement of a trade deal that's

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Speaker 27: expected soon, perhaps the UK would expect to avoid all

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Speaker 27: these tariffs. But it doesn't really sound as though that's

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Speaker 27: going to be possible this way, And is how will

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Speaker 27: the UK act? The Prime Minister saying there will be

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Speaker 27: no knee jerk reaction, there will be a calm approach,

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Speaker 27: but the EU is looking much much more aggressive, or

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Speaker 27: at least sounding like they're going to be much more

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Speaker 27: aggressive by using retaliatory tariffs almost immediately.

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Speaker 4: This could be a.

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Speaker 27: Big hit for the UK, a very big hit for

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Speaker 27: the EU as well. Some in the UK suggesting that

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Speaker 27: if a trade war does break out and the UK

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Speaker 27: then imposes tariffs in reverse as it were, that there

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Speaker 27: could be a one percent decline in GDP. So this

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Speaker 27: is huge money. But as I said, at the moment,

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Speaker 27: I think any thought that the UK is going to

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01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 27: escape these tariffs completely now seems to be much much

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01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 27: more wish for thinking as this trade deal that's been

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 27: talked about for so long between the US and the

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Speaker 27: UK since Brexit could finally materialize, but that is looking

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Speaker 27: to take a lot longer than perhaps some hope, which

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Speaker 27: is significant.

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Speaker 2: The one percent thing significant, isn't it for the UK?

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01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Because you expected to grow? But I was looking last

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01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 2: night one between one and one point seven percent, depending

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Speaker 2: on which economists you talk to, which expit you talk to.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that could basically take you down to

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Speaker 2: known growth, couldn't it.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, very much so. And not just that, it completely

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01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 27: wipes out the fiscal headroom, as it's called, in other words,

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Speaker 27: the spare money which this government is keeping to one

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Speaker 27: side in order to make sure they actually comply with

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Speaker 27: their own rules about borrowing. And so if that headroom,

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Speaker 27: as it were, that spare bit of margin of error

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Speaker 27: is wiped out, then I'm afraid we are going to

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Speaker 27: have to see probably significant cuts to benefits there, but

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Speaker 27: also potentially tax rises that long been talked about here,

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Speaker 27: and I think these tariffs would certainly mean the government

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Speaker 27: has an excuse then to go for that route.

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Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, because where else are they going to get

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Speaker 2: the money? The French love approach is, don't they? And

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Speaker 2: there's a new one for Lapin.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, indeed so. So we learned, of course, that Marie

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Speaker 27: Le Penn has been found guilty effectively of embezzlement using

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Speaker 27: roughly five and a half million New Zealand dollars of

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Speaker 27: European Union funding to run her own party. She had

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Speaker 27: denied those allegations. It was expected she would be found guilty.

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01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 27: What was not expected, ryan was that she would be

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Speaker 27: barred from holding public office for five years. That means

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Speaker 27: that the favorite for the next presidential election in France

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01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 27: in twenty twenty seven has been dealt a dramatic blow.

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Speaker 27: She is allowed to appeal, but the timing of that

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Speaker 27: appeal may make it very difficult for her to run

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Speaker 27: in twenty to twenty seven. So it looks like stepping

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Speaker 27: up to the mark will be her deputy, Jordan Bardella.

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Speaker 27: He's called now on people tor in the center of

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Speaker 27: Paris on Sunday to protest at the ruling. We now

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Speaker 27: know that the judges who made this ruling have received

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Speaker 27: a lot of backlash on social media and threats as well.

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Speaker 27: This is something that the National Rally Party Marine le

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Speaker 27: Penz Party has condemned. However, it shows, I think the

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Speaker 27: strength of feeling and shows, particularly this weekend, how difficult

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Speaker 27: this march could be for the authorities in Paris as

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Speaker 27: they try to contain feelings but also trying to make

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Speaker 27: sure it doesn't become violent or around any very unpleasant

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Speaker 27: scenes in the heart of the capitol.

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Speaker 2: Not just the TIFFs that are going up for you guys,

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Speaker 2: but a series of quite essential household bills, you name

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Speaker 2: it, it's going up.

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Speaker 27: So as we change financial year from twenty four twenty

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Speaker 27: five to twenty five twenty six, water bills, energy prices

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Speaker 27: are going up. That's gas and electric. It's not just

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Speaker 27: those council tax that's the tax you pay to your

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01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 27: local government, as it were, your local offices, As are

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01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,879
Speaker 27: the costs of taxing your car, having a television license,

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01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 27: broadband and phone bills all going up within the space

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Speaker 27: of a few days, and some of them really quite considerable.

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01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 27: Some council tax bills going up generally by about five percent,

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Speaker 27: but some going up by ten percent and more. These

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01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 27: are significant bills and according to one big charity here

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Speaker 27: in the UK. This is going to hit millions of

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Speaker 27: people on lowest incomes who are already stretched a breaking point.

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Speaker 27: And Ryan, it affects many on low incomes, particularly single parents.

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Speaker 27: Why well, because a lot of these increases are in essentials.

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01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 27: In other words, they're not luxuries. People can't you know,

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01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 27: suddenly not use energy or not use water. So that's

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01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 27: why it hits these people hard, is and they are

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Speaker 27: saying that some are really going to be pushed to

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Speaker 27: a breaking point because, believe it or not, one in

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Speaker 27: five families here in the UK do not have any

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01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 27: savings at all. Ryan, So although the wages are rising

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Speaker 27: faster than the rate of infletion, I'm afraid there is

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Speaker 27: going to be some very very tough months ahead for

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Speaker 27: those on lower incomes.

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, Kevin, thank you for that. Kevin Gray, a

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Speaker 2: UK correspondent. It is eleven minutes away from seven. So

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Speaker 2: this is why this is the problem, isn't it that

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01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 2: we were talking to Jeremy Hutton from Milford about it earlier.

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Speaker 2: Stagflation which if what he says is true about Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and if the terrorists go ahead in the worst

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Speaker 2: case scenario and you lose a percent off growth in

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Speaker 2: the UK, and yet you've got rising costs. That's stagflation.

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Speaker 2: That's low or no growth plus inflation is stagflation. It's

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01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: a very difficult, nasty place to be because your costs

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01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: are going up, but you can't grow your way out

1834
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 2: of it. And we've just been through the whole world

1835
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 2: has just been through so much in the last five

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01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: how many years, twenty twenty and I just want this

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01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: to be over. I want us to be growing, I

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01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 2: want us to be getting out of it. And then

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Speaker 2: I just feel like Donald Trump is coming in to

1840
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: rain on our parade, to our lunch. Just go away.

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01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I get it. There is

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01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 2: an American middle class that feels like they're being left behind,

1843
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 2: and so they vote for Donald Trump. And America is

1844
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 2: a waning superpower and this is sort of its death throws,

1845
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 2: isn't it? Is that what we're looking at here? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: I suppose we'll find out tomorrow ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tupice allan Drive full show podcast on

1848
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZBB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks MB. It is eight minutes away from seven,

1850
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 2: so you know, the big battle that's going on right now.

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Speaker 2: Public battle that's going on between Prince Harry and the

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01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: charity trust that he used to run in Africa. Well,

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01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: and the chair of that is a woman who has

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01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: been in the headlines and was photographed next to Meghan Mirkael, remember,

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01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: and she Meghan Michael apparently told her that she should

1856
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 2: move in the photo. Anyone calls the big uproar and

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01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: then apparently Prince Harry goes to the charity, goes to

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01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: the chair of the charity and says, can you please

1859
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 2: go out there and defend my wife, and the charity

1860
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 2: says that's not our job. We don't want to be

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01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: an extension of your pr team. These are the headlines

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01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 2: you would have been reading. Well anyway, the latest one

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01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: is the charity boss who's of African descent. She has

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01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 2: said accused other members on the board of this charity

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01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 2: of misogyny and misogoynoir. That's what's that now. Misogoren noir

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01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 2: apparently is when is misogyny against a woman who's of

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01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: a woman of color, misogohnoir. So there you go, so

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01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: accusing the board of misogyny and misogoren noir. And now

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01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,560
Speaker 2: the board have come back and saying she's playing the

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Speaker 2: race card. What an utter mess? And who's the charity

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Speaker 2: helping but themselves? At this point six away from seven

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Speaker 2: News Talks B We've had some very sad news this afternoon. Ants,

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Speaker 2: haven't we?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, we have sir. Actor Vel Kilmer was sixty

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01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 26: five and he has unfortunately died. His daughter, Mercedes kill

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01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 26: has said he died of pneumonia. He did have throat

1877
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 26: cancer back in twenty fourteen, but he recovered from that.

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01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 26: I think a lot of people would probably be familiar

1879
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 26: with El Kilma, mostly from a couple of movies, Batman Forever.

1880
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 26: He was Batman back in the nineties, and then he

1881
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 26: was Iceman in Top Gun, and I think he reprised

1882
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 26: his role in the in the recent Top Gun sequel

1883
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 26: as well.

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01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 2: My favorite putback die Hard die Hard. Was he in Diehard?

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01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 18: Well?

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01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: Maybe he was? Did he definitely? Was? He was the

1887
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 2: Batman in die Hard? Wasn't he was?

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Speaker 26: Wasn't that Alan Rickman?

1889
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1890
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 26: Was it a different Diehard? Was he in one like

1891
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 26: die Hard?

1892
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: For There's four? Isn't there?

1893
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1894
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 26: There are a bunch of them. My favorite performance by

1895
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 26: him personally was a movie from two thousand and five

1896
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 26: called Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. It's like, lots of people

1897
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 26: haven't seen this movie.

1898
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 16: It's brilliant.

1899
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 26: It's him and Robbie Robert Downey Junior play like a

1900
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 26: Buddy Copp, well almost buddy cop.

1901
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 2: One of them is.

1902
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 6: Neither of them cops.

1903
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 2: They're crims.

1904
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 26: But it's like a murder mystery thriller comedy and it's

1905
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 26: just really funny. And I'm just gonna play a little

1906
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 26: bit of one of their exchanges here.

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01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 19: Where's we.

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01:37:59,439 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 16: Know?

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01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 2: I like, No, I got rid of it again.

1910
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I threw it in the lake because I figured

1911
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 13: you wouldn't.

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01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 19: I would.

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01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 7: I got priors in New York, so I really can't.

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01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 7: I can't be messing around.

1915
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 2: You threw it away.

1916
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, Plus it's evidence, is what.

1917
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: What we were thinking, Like two thousand dollars ceramic vector

1918
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: my mother got me as a special gift. You threw

1919
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 2: in the lake next to the car. What happens when

1920
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: they drag the lake? You think they'll find my pistol?

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Speaker 13: Jesus, look up idiots in the dictionary.

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01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 19: You know what you'll find picture of me?

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01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 2: No, the definition of the word idiot, which you are.

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01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 26: It's just it's very funny and it's very, very cleverly written.

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Speaker 26: And yeah, it's a real shame of someone with their skill.

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Speaker 26: I mean, it's a sad when anybody dies, but yeah,

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Speaker 26: I think a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of us are going to miss them, especially so young

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Speaker 2: as well, just sixty five years old Bell Kilmet.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, so we'll go out with that Take My Breakaway

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Speaker 26: by Berlin. Obviously most people will know it from the

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Speaker 26: first Topout movie.

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Speaker 2: Really nice. Looking forward to tomorrow, everybody, don't forget. Put

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Speaker 2: it in your Calendar's nine o'clock tomorrow morning. We will

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Speaker 2: hear from the Rose Garden from Donald Trump what his

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Speaker 2: plan is, what America First means for everybody else that

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Speaker 2: announcement nine o'clock tomorrow morning. Course will have some analysis

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Speaker 2: for you here on the show tomorrow afternoon. Enjoy your evening,

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Speaker 2: Go and watch a Voil Kilmer movie. See tomorro.

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