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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery, never Stop discovering News,

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Speaker 2: B Bolling Welcome to the Trade Ministrawmot Trump has and

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Speaker 2: it staufors tariff wires, the rules around Jeden, Who we

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Speaker 2: got new numbers around debt rheas and whether we're still

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Speaker 2: in a credit hole? Tim Katy given its Friday Murray

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Speaker 2: olds Richard Arnold. They provide a bit of shine as well. Pasky,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day. Seven past six. Now let me

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Speaker 2: ask you this question. If a council gives a media

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Speaker 2: outlet some numbers and the media outlet simply reposts those numbers,

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Speaker 2: is that reportage or is that propaganda? So the headline

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Speaker 2: was more cyclists get on their bikes, which is true,

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Speaker 2: But at no point in my reading of the cycle

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Speaker 2: ways of the nation's major cities was any definitive analysis

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Speaker 2: done as to whether the cost of the infrastructure to

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Speaker 2: get people on their bikes was worth it. In christ Church,

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Speaker 2: some popular routes clocked two thousand trips a day. Now

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Speaker 2: is that a lot? Well? Remember to harve that number

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Speaker 2: because trips are reached twice, so it's one thousand going

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Speaker 2: two and from something. And this is in a city

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Speaker 2: of four one hundred thousand people. Wellington four key corridors

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Speaker 2: racked up eighty seven thousand in a month. So you

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Speaker 2: have the eighty seven, you get about forty three. Divide

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Speaker 2: it by four for the corridors four corridors you have ten.

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Speaker 2: Divide it by thirty for the days of the month.

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Speaker 2: You've got three hundred and thirty three a day. Three

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three a day. Not a lot of

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Speaker 2: people for cycle ways. That would have cost many, many

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars. In christ Church, they were claiming a

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Speaker 2: forty percent increase in usage, except that was from twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: so over eight years, so about five percent a year,

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Speaker 2: not really a booming number. Newtown and Wellington is one

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Speaker 2: of their most popular routes. Apparently they do. They claim

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Speaker 2: between eight to twelve thousand trips a month, so let's

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Speaker 2: average that it's ten thousand. Are divided by two, so

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Speaker 2: we're down to five. Divided by thirty, we end up

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Speaker 2: with one hundred and sixty six a day for one

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Speaker 2: of the most popular routes. So a cycling booming, or

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Speaker 2: has the Council pr Department cobbled together their best numbers,

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Speaker 2: passed it off in press release form to a gullible

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Speaker 2: newsroom and the hope no one has a calculator. They'

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Speaker 2: get me wrong. Nothing wrong with cycling. Cycling's fun, good

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Speaker 2: for you. But when you add the cost of the specialists,

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Speaker 2: infrastructure and do the math, it's got a very ev

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Speaker 2: type vibe about it, doesn't It a lot of hype

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Speaker 2: that is never quite matched by the reality. Numbers and

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Speaker 2: percentages are easily messed with, of course, to paint the

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Speaker 2: sort of picture you want. The favorite is the huge

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Speaker 2: percentage increase, but you're not supposed to ask from what

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Speaker 2: to what? I mean, one to two is one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: but still only two. But where the bandwagon and the

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Speaker 2: machine normally tax or ratepayer funded of course, that pushes

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Speaker 2: this stuff, and sadly the media who pedals it no

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Speaker 2: pun intended.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Right, Tariff's moving feast career has got a deal. China

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Speaker 2: could be a deal New Zealand. We get told four

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Speaker 2: pm today or buy four PM today. Mexico has a pause.

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Speaker 3: From Mexico as of tomorrow. Would have also faced tariff

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Speaker 3: somewhere between fifteen and fifty percent. We're not sure, because

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Speaker 3: of course there has been quite a lot of capacity

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Speaker 3: around these trade deals. But Mexico has been granted a

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Speaker 3: ninety day extension.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, crunch you through the number shop is regards the

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Speaker 2: war another day of carnage.

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Speaker 4: He had a master's degree in political science and international relations,

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Speaker 4: he says, and he died looking like a corpse crawling

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Speaker 4: to find a flowers an invite.

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Speaker 2: This is an absolute line.

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Speaker 5: This is absolutely lost food.

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Speaker 6: Because I've seen that plain lies.

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Speaker 5: And I would like to have mister Wickcock come here

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Speaker 5: and talk to me to my face now sure.

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Speaker 2: In Britain, a couple of things. One, we've got a

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Speaker 2: bloke arrested for religiously poisoning kids at the summer.

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Speaker 5: Eight children were taken to hospital as a precaution and

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Speaker 5: a fall since been discharged. I can confirm this seventy

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Speaker 5: six year old man was arrested on suspicion of administering poison.

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Speaker 2: And two a result that didn't go Connor o'grigg's way

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Speaker 2: in his ripe appeal.

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Speaker 7: Dis appeal has redraumatized me over and over again, been

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Speaker 7: forced to reliver. What happened has had a huge impact

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Speaker 7: on me. To every survivor out there, I know how

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Speaker 7: hard it is for Please don't be silent. You deserve

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Speaker 7: to be heard. You also deserve justice.

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Speaker 2: And stage site E. Long was looking to send four

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Speaker 2: off to the space station, but they had to scratch it.

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Speaker 8: These are instantaneous launch windows that means they have a

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Speaker 8: single second to launch and actually make it up to

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Speaker 8: the ISS. You have to wait for the ISS to

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Speaker 8: pass over your head and then you can launch and

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Speaker 8: you actually be SYNCD up for everything to come together.

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Speaker 8: You tend to have a single second that you can

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Speaker 8: lift off and make it the ISS.

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Speaker 2: Now, finally, new potato news. Now I don't say that

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Speaker 2: often on this program, but I've got new potato news.

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Speaker 2: Over nine million years ago, the potato was actually you

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Speaker 2: ready for this, a tomato. Wild tomatoes that grew in

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Speaker 2: the Andes ended up crossing with a plant called the etoborossum.

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Speaker 2: Are they hybridized and voila, you had a spot. Scientists

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Speaker 2: say this is groundbreaking and they're looking at other hybridization

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Speaker 2: of bens within food ground on the ground US and

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Speaker 2: breakthroughs in ninety right, oh, here's where we're at be

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Speaker 2: since says China may have a deal. Lutnik yesterday said

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Speaker 2: everyone by today tomorrow, but China may take longer. Suddenly

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Speaker 2: Best at this morning says we've got the makings of

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Speaker 2: a deal with China. As you heard the deal on Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Mexico was due for a massive increase in tarras tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: That's been paused for ninety days. Brazil's got fifty, that's

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Speaker 2: the botscenario thing that's a bit weird. And South Korea,

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Speaker 2: as ob yesterday has got fifteen but more throughout the morning,

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Speaker 2: twelve past six, the.

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Speaker 2: EPI Chinese manufacturing not good. Andrew will have something on

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Speaker 2: that V in a moment. Okay. In Germany though the

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Speaker 2: inflation came in at one point eight, they thought it

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Speaker 2: was one point nine. Anything with the one, I'll take

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Speaker 2: fifteen past six and j My Wilf Andrew Kellah, good morning,

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Speaker 2: very good morning. It's a busy, busy, busy time with

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Speaker 2: the feed of course, and then the Big boys came

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Speaker 2: to town yesterday as well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so we've got a new month dawning for US

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Speaker 9: Mike Offshore. Market's still closing out that month, but it's

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Speaker 9: closing out what has been a pretty constructive month for markets.

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Speaker 9: And one of the reasons for that has been this

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Speaker 9: resurgence in the share prices of the megacap stocks, and

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Speaker 9: you know, just dwell on the fact that we've now

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Speaker 2: These are just incredible numbers.

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Speaker 9: So after the market closed yesterday, Microsoft and Meta Platforms

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Speaker 9: announced their results, both generating very positive market reactions.

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Speaker 2: So I've looked at Microsoft after.

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Speaker 9: The results, share lecked over eight percent. I mean, that's

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Speaker 9: a big move for a massive company. It's backed off

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Speaker 9: a little bit in trading today, but in that after

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Speaker 9: ours trading it lifted a trifling three hundred billion US

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Speaker 9: dollars that's about five hundred billion New Zealand dollars, which, again,

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Speaker 9: these numbers are just staggering, but the results stronger than expected.

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Speaker 9: Revenue rose eighteen percent year on year two seventy six

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Speaker 9: thirty billion New Zealand dollars. That beat analyst consensus expectations,

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Speaker 9: and what everyone's focusing on here is obviously the AI theme.

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Speaker 9: They're a Zoo division had a thirty nine percent rise

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Speaker 9: For their financial years. So the Azua is the intelligent

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Speaker 9: cloud business. And we talk endlessly about the trajectory and

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Speaker 9: the potential impact of AI. But I thought there was

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Speaker 9: basically said that cloud and AI is the driving force

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Speaker 9: now has sales totally more than seventy five billion for

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Speaker 2: Here's some other numbers.

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Speaker 9: Copilot, that's the AI that sits within the Microsoft suite

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Speaker 9: of products. It's now got one hundred million active monthly

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Speaker 9: users and roughly eight hundred million customers they've got who

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Speaker 9: interact with the AI features in the Microsoft ecosystem. Growth

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Speaker 9: really leveraged AI sales and training, and I think Mike

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Speaker 9: just a common comment is that analysts and markets have

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Speaker 9: AI training well from Microsoft, result actually looks like they

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Speaker 9: still spending thirty billion dollars this.

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Speaker 10: Quarter on data centers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there we come to meta Meta your Facebook.

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Speaker 9: You know, it wasn't there a point where we just

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Speaker 9: now sitting at seven hundred and seventy eight dollars. Earnings

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Speaker 9: a significant beat. Revenue forty seven a half billion, twenty

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Speaker 2: I mean, these are all just great numbers.

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Speaker 9: They're also saying they'll continue to move heavily onto AI

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Speaker 9: as well, so another great result for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and then we come to Old Jerome. Now

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Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't hear anything yesterday

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's absolutely right. So he did the statement and

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Speaker 9: then he does the press conference, and it was a

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Speaker 9: little bit more hawsed than expected. No direct implication of

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Speaker 9: So you've got AI in the background driving spending and

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Speaker 9: the signs of a weaker economy and the labor market's

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Speaker 9: going to be key that non farm payals tonight. I

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Speaker 9: think that's the market that he's looking at in particular.

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Speaker 9: But yes, he's not committing to a cut at all

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Speaker 2: Interesting and those China numbers are referred to, so how

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Speaker 2: many months in a row is that? It's wild?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, four consecutive months of contraction on manufacturing. So it

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Speaker 9: fell to forty nine point three from forty nine point seven,

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Speaker 9: so production market demand would have of have weakened. You

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Speaker 9: look at the new orders and say, well, is it

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Speaker 9: going to get better? New export orders, new orders both

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Speaker 9: under fifty non manufacturing a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit over fifty but there are still challenges here, Mike.

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Speaker 2: For the for the Chinese economy, you're a champion. What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Dow Jones is down.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't benefit as much from sort of as the

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Speaker 2: Yes, August one here, not quite there, but it will

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Speaker 2: Economic news been a lot of it this week. I've

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Speaker 2: Centrix numbers for June are out. I'll crunch you through

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Speaker 2: some of those for you. As I say Todd McLay,

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better

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Speaker 2: Togs headb So, who's fault is this?

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Speaker 2: back here. Money wise, what have we got data? Well

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Speaker 2: We got company liquidation still a problem, though twenty six

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Speaker 2: to you, Good morning, am I so summarize this for me.

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Speaker 2: Now you've isolated the cost plus accounting problem, so the

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Speaker 2: That mortgage inquiry number up sixteen point sevent percent. Can

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Speaker 2: Keith McLaughlin Centrics managing director A read a piece yesterday.

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Speaker 2: they're mostly empty. Could you explain why I pay road tax,

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Speaker 2: It be least a chunk of the health service got

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Speaker 2: Luxeon's been pumping the one twenty five thousand that the

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Speaker 2: and we've got to stop this whole Nurses need more forever.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nurses do need more. If we could pay

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Speaker 2: nurses a million dollars each. Of course we would, we

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Speaker 2: love nurses, but it's not real. So a graduate midwife

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Speaker 2: base salary is going to be up almost three thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars to eighty five thousand dollars. To graduate and earn

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Speaker 2: eighty five thousand dollars is not bad going, Let's be

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Speaker 2: honest about it. Senior midwives up four thousand dollars to

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Speaker 2: about one hundred and twelve thousand dollars. Anyone earning six

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Speaker 2: figures in this country, in this economy is doing okay,

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Speaker 2: and we've we've got to start acknowledging that a bit more.

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Speaker 16: Six forty five International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 16: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Five origin Inald.

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Speaker 10: Morning again, Way night.

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Speaker 2: I come to the tariffs in just a moment. This

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Speaker 2: is our plane v helicopter a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 2: so looing into us.

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Speaker 10: What do we know?

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Speaker 17: Well, we're hearing quite a bit and none of it's

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Speaker 17: really encouraging. This disaster is to focus on Capital Hill.

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Speaker 17: They're holding these hearings into the mid air collition near

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Speaker 17: Washington's Reagan National Airport back in January, of course, when

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Speaker 17: sixty seven people were killed in a crash between commercial

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Speaker 17: jet and ade military helicopter and Army chopper. This was

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Speaker 17: the first fatal crash involving in an American airline in

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Speaker 17: fifteen years. And as I say, what we're hearing is disturbing.

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Speaker 17: The Army says that the specific type of Blackhawk helicopter

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Speaker 17: involved in this was known to have problems with it's altimeter,

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Speaker 17: which measures how high the aircraft is flying. An Army

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Speaker 17: engineers testified that if he had the power, he would

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Speaker 17: take these helicopters out of the fleet immediately. Instead, the

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Speaker 17: Federal Aviation Administration, which oversees the air traffic controllers, says

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Speaker 17: they plan to update their manuals and let pilots know

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Speaker 17: about these problems by September. That led a Transportation Board official,

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Speaker 17: Todd Inman, to say this.

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Speaker 15: And you're telling me it's going to be two months

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Speaker 15: before you tell them that there's a discrepancy.

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Speaker 10: How about telling them now?

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Speaker 18: Seriously?

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Speaker 17: At the Washington Reagan National Airport, they have been juggling

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Speaker 17: the commercial military flights. We know it's a very busy place.

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Speaker 17: The black Hawk in this instance was flying about thirty

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Speaker 17: meters higher than the supposed chopper limit. They have also

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Speaker 17: heard that there were fifteen thousand that's the number, like

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Speaker 17: fifteen thousand close calls at the airport as they try

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Speaker 17: to squeeze all these flights in.

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Speaker 2: That seems just mind boggling, doesn't it.

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Speaker 17: Then they were told that on the night of the crash,

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Speaker 17: one single air traffic controller was dealing with both the

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Speaker 17: commercial jet and the military chopper. One of the crew said,

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Speaker 17: he's got them stacked up. Tonight, busy, said another, as

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Speaker 17: the controller let them both continue towards the airport using

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Speaker 17: visual separation.

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Speaker 14: Sadly, of course that did not work.

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Speaker 2: Now it did not write midnight, tonight your time, four

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Speaker 2: of this afternoon, our time. Letters are coming. It's all on,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 17: We wait to see what the letters say, whether it's

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Speaker 17: what a fifteen percent tariff in New Zealand or whatever

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Speaker 17: it is, and many many other countries are in the

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Speaker 17: same position. Mexico, though, has been given a ninety day

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Speaker 17: reprieve on high tariffs after a call today between its

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Speaker 17: president and Trump. Trump and Shinbaum spoke by a telephone,

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Speaker 17: but the deadline still looms for most of the rest

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Speaker 17: of the world. A short time ago, the White House

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Speaker 17: press person Karly Levitt was asked about the on again,

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Speaker 17: off again Trump tariff approach with all.

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Speaker 7: Of this, looking to provide any more extensions today after

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Speaker 7: his phone call with Mexico, is or any other conversations

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Speaker 7: like that.

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Speaker 12: I do know that other foreign leaders around the world

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Speaker 12: have reached out, and if the President decides to share

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Speaker 12: the conclusions of those calls with all of you, he

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Speaker 12: will do so himself.

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Speaker 6: A lot of light there is.

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Speaker 17: Tomorrow's deadline is called for deals to be made or

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Speaker 17: tariff might be pro imposed to a level of as

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Speaker 17: much as fifty percent. Mexico will continue paying twenty five

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Speaker 17: percent rate on most items and fifty percent on industry

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Speaker 17: or metal, so that's their agreement. Canada, as a major

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Speaker 17: trading partner with this country, has been predicting they could

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Speaker 17: reach a deal that struck down or the Trump tariff's. Well,

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Speaker 17: that hasn't happened, and Trump now is saying it would

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Speaker 17: be quite unquote very hard to reach a trade deal

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Speaker 17: with Canada after that country said it planned to recognize

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Speaker 17: a Palestinian state. So this is a swirl of issues

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Speaker 17: here from what Fentanel to Gaza. In the next meantime,

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Speaker 17: the Trump trade wars are facing also a critical court

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Speaker 17: test in this country, as the Trump team has been

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Speaker 17: sued by a coalition of states and businesses who claim

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Speaker 17: that Trump has been overstepping his powers when it comes

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Speaker 17: to some of the steepest tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff might go. We'll see you next week, Richard

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Speaker 2: Arld sightside the dominimous thing. Yesterday signed another thing for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the world. They did the Deminimus thing

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Speaker 2: on China. That's in court. He signed an executive order

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Speaker 2: for Deminimus for the rest of the world. I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: because China's in court, the whole world's in court. And

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Speaker 2: ever it's in court, it can't come into play. Watch India.

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Speaker 2: India is probably, to my mind the most interesting of

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Speaker 2: these trade deals because the other day he slapped the

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Speaker 2: main tariff on them. They were going to have a deal,

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Speaker 2: and that's fallen apart. But what importantly he also did

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Speaker 2: was slap a penalty tariff for their trading with Russia.

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Speaker 2: So the question mark is now, is the penalty tariff

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Speaker 2: if you trade with Russia, and there are plenty of

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Speaker 2: people who do. India is the most overt China is

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Speaker 2: another one. Of course, India is the most overt one.

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Speaker 2: But if you trade with Russia, is he going to

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Speaker 2: get to Russia by penalizing other countries to put the

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Speaker 2: squeeze on? So where India goes, does a number of

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Speaker 2: other countries go. So watch that one and see how

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Speaker 2: that unfolds over the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Landrover

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Speaker 1: Discovery News talks HEADV But.

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Speaker 2: Do you truly believe what Luxton says about nurses wages?

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Speaker 2: Exclamation marked one two, three, four five seven. I'm a

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Speaker 2: nurse special as my base salary's one oh seven. He

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Speaker 2: talks a low to bs. No, he doesn't. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, you two trigger too many exclamation marks. What

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Speaker 2: he says, and he's been consistent about one twenty five

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Speaker 2: thousand is with shift allowance as an overtimes and I

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Speaker 2: think of your base at one o seven. He's right,

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Speaker 2: isn't he?

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Speaker 10: Mike?

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Speaker 2: Most cyclists also owned cars plus health benefits reduce the

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Speaker 2: burden on the health service, and more cyclists means less

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Speaker 2: cars blocking traders, et cetera. Ben, it's a good point.

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Speaker 2: It's the Seymour argument round farmak. If you fund a

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Speaker 2: drug and the drug helps the person. Therefore they don't

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Speaker 2: lean on social welfare or they don't lean on the

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Speaker 2: health system any further, is that an accountancy practice or

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Speaker 2: a counting practice that you can work in. So I

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Speaker 2: take your point. When they come off their bike and

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Speaker 2: there's a problem, ask the councilor the Auckland councilorho wasn't

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Speaker 2: at the meeting yesterday because she got hit by a

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Speaker 2: car because she's on her bike. Very good news, and

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Speaker 2: some of you will go, how's that possible? From the

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Speaker 2: twenty five Flyers Choice Awards from Airline Ratings dot com

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Speaker 2: Best cabin Crew Uniform, who won will obviously Singapore, because

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Speaker 2: Singapore wins everything. Singapore's the best airline, Singapore's got the

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Speaker 2: best airport, and Singapore has the best uniform. It was

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Speaker 2: designed years ago by p vl Mann back in nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy four, and if you think about it hasn't changed.

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Speaker 2: And if you think about that, that's classic fashion, that's

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Speaker 2: timeless fashion. That's what great design is. If you design

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Speaker 2: something that stands the test of time. You see it,

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Speaker 2: you see it in furniture and so Bellmann got it

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Speaker 2: right and it's still the same uniform today. Emirates came second,

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Speaker 2: which I find weird because it's a so of a

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Speaker 2: mustardy brownie tanny and no one looks good in tan

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Speaker 2: and in New Zealand came third for the new one

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Speaker 2: or the existing the existing one, the existing one, the

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Speaker 2: purple one with the swirls now. I struggle with this

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Speaker 2: because Tralice Cooper is one of the nicest people in

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Speaker 2: the world, and she designed it, of course, but she

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Speaker 2: designed it quite a long timeway, and what I would

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Speaker 2: argue is a fashion Ford kind of way, in a

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Speaker 2: could be hot now, not so hot later, or.

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Speaker 19: Do we need to give it another fifty years like

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Speaker 19: Singapore's one.

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Speaker 2: Could come right six minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 6: Pal the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the biz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Rolls Royce News as in the jet engine department, So

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Speaker 2: our dreamline A fleet, of course, has suffered because of

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Speaker 2: the issues with the Rolls Royce Trents four and City

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Speaker 2: lacked confidence in them when it came to extended maintenance

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Speaker 2: timelines all that sort of stuff. Anyway, airlines around the

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Speaker 2: world have suffered and cancel thousands of flights. So Rolls

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Speaker 2: Royce sucked. Oh, hold on, no, they don't. They recently

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Speaker 2: as of December said they couldn't source the parts to

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Speaker 2: make the repairs and had to significantly reduce their output.

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Speaker 2: So this has got to be hurting them business wise.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be getting me. First six months they

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Speaker 2: saw profits of three point eight billion compared with two

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Speaker 2: point four, so two point four to three point eight

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Speaker 2: revenues up eleven percent, saying they've increased their full year

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Speaker 2: profit guidance as well. The jet ends and sector's booming. Well,

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Speaker 2: how's all this possible? Because international travels recovered dramatically since COVID,

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Speaker 2: except for news Veland, of course, where we're still stuck

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Speaker 2: at eighty six percent demand for jet engines through the roof.

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Speaker 2: It's resulted in chairs being up more than eighty five

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Speaker 2: percent this year alone, tenfold since twenty twenty three. Analysts

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Speaker 2: say this is the benefit owning a chunk of the market.

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Speaker 2: Even when performing poorly, people still need what you produce.

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Speaker 2: So the stuff you made the other day that doesn't work,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about that because there are still people on

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Speaker 2: line saying I want some of the new stuff please

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Speaker 2: Now for their part, Rollsworth, So they've made big improvements

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Speaker 2: in the first six months of this year. Increasing the

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Speaker 2: r's engines spend on what they call on wing before

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Speaker 2: they need maintenance. On wing means when they sow you

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Speaker 2: the end and you stick it on your plane, you

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Speaker 2: fly around a bit before it needs a service like

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Speaker 2: you warrant. So on wings improving, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: Greg would be necessarily cheering their success. So weir Bus

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Speaker 2: has got toilet problems. We've learned that this morning. They

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Speaker 2: don't have enough toilets ros We're still aren't fixing their

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Speaker 2: problem engines, but the new ones they're making everyone's excited about,

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Speaker 2: so that's encouraging.

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Speaker 19: I'm torn. I don't know if I'd rather have an

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Speaker 19: engine or a toilet.

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Speaker 2: I'd go engine because if you don't have an engine,

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Speaker 2: you're never on the plane, it never takes off, and

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Speaker 2: you don't really need the toilet.

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Speaker 1: Do you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you've got to go, when you got

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Speaker 2: to go, you gotta go. Todd McLay, what's he reckon?

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Speaker 2: He reckoned fifteen? He reckoned twenty? Has actually got a letter?

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Speaker 2: Has he got a letter early and we can reveal

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Speaker 2: it exclusively on the program? He has he what do

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Speaker 2: you reckon. Let's ring him an ask in a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments Andrew Hoggard, the Food Minister, GE. Does that

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Speaker 2: still freak you out? Is that still a thing it does?

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Speaker 2: If I couldn't give the monkeys about it, I've never

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Speaker 2: been concerned about ge. But anyway, we've struck some new

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Speaker 2: rules on that and to macad you do the business

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Speaker 2: after eight as a roller King, Mike Hosking Breakfast rolls

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Speaker 2: on for Friday.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show Kiwis trust to stay in the know,

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News Togstead be.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven, apparently, because you can never tell with

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Speaker 2: the White House the rest of the world, which is

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Speaker 2: us going to get the final tariff number sometime between

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Speaker 2: down four o'clock this afternoon. Numbers have flown all week,

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Speaker 2: of course, fifty for Brazil, twenty five for India, nineteen

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Speaker 2: for Indonesia, fifteen to the EU. Todd McLay Trade ministers

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Speaker 2: with us. Good morning, Mike, good morning. As you sit

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Speaker 2: here this Friday morning, do you know what tomorrow's number

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Speaker 2: for US?

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Speaker 8: Is?

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Speaker 10: No? No, we don't at all.

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Speaker 20: I mean, the only real information we have is the

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Speaker 20: same as everyone else in New Zealand. What's filtering through

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Speaker 20: the world's news media. I wake up this morning and

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Speaker 20: see that they may have done something else quite punitive

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Speaker 20: against Canada. So unfortunately, it's a bit of a wait

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Speaker 20: and see. But indications are that there could be fifteen

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Speaker 20: percent coming across the board for everybody in the world,

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Speaker 20: that's a minimum. But you know, it's an anxious time

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Speaker 20: for some of her exporters. I guess there's so much uncertainty.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, there is also an indication it could be twenty

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Speaker 2: do you rule that out?

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Speaker 20: Well, well, we don't know. I was saying to some

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Speaker 20: of the media yesterday that you know, we've been engaging

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Speaker 20: with this ongoing conversations, you know, me at my level,

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Speaker 20: with my counterpart there, it's been extremely constructive. Our embassy

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Speaker 20: is talking all the time. But you know, it's not sure.

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Speaker 20: I think, you know, think about Australia. They've got a

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Speaker 20: trade deal with America and now I understand it exactly

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Speaker 20: the same position. Well, I guess it will unfold through

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Speaker 20: the media once again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is this. David Seymour, we had

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Speaker 2: on the program earlier this week. He seemed to take

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Speaker 2: the look it is, it is what it is. They're

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Speaker 2: the government of America. They can do whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: Is that true? And if it is, how do you

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Speaker 2: debtail that with what Luxon said, And that is, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to be materially worse off than anyone else,

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Speaker 2: which we may well be.

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Speaker 20: Well, well, it'd be materially worse off if others have

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Speaker 20: a lower tariffright, So at the moment we said at

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Speaker 20: ten percent, which is the floor. In my meeting with

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Speaker 20: jameson Grere, who's my counterpart, he said, that's the new floor.

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Speaker 20: If that floor goes up, but it's just going to

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Speaker 20: be harmful for New Zealand because tariffs are not good.

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Speaker 20: But we're no less competitive than anybody else. If others

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Speaker 20: are below that, whatever the new rate is, then it

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Speaker 20: would be hard. What we are seeing from our exporters

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Speaker 20: is in some cases more demand. They're selling more. Many

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Speaker 20: have just passed that tariff on, so it means higher

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Speaker 20: prices for the US. Others are actually saying, well, I

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Speaker 20: think Europe's a bit of market. There's more certainly, and

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Speaker 20: we're getting better prices, so they are adjusting. But might

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Speaker 20: I want to be clear you know, tariff rates and

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Speaker 20: escalation is not good for the world's anonomy, and ultimately

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Speaker 20: it's not good for consuming.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I asked the question though, if it's

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Speaker 2: twenty there are countries who are materially better, there are

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Speaker 2: countries with fifteens and nineteens we lose. What do you

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Speaker 2: do about that if that's the case.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that's right, Well we will engage and I'll get

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Speaker 20: up there fairly quickly. Jermas and Grera invited me up,

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Speaker 20: but he did say come up later in the year.

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Speaker 20: He said, we've got a lot of negotiations with countries

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Speaker 20: who we're going to We have higher tariff rates twenty thirty,

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Speaker 20: forty percent, and we're moving through those. I guess we're

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Speaker 20: starting to see deals announced, but there's just not a

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Speaker 20: lot of detail. I mean, you take the European Union one,

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Speaker 20: where you know they've said the US has said it's

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Speaker 20: fifteen percent going in and they've got zero going to

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Speaker 20: the European Union.

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Speaker 10: Well they US come out and said.

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Speaker 20: No, that's not the case a deal at all. So

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Speaker 20: unfortunately for our exports, in fact it's the world exporters,

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Speaker 20: there's going to remain some uncertainty However, there's a couple

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Speaker 20: of bright spots we're seeing in Chris demand for a

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Speaker 20: lot of these products out of Southeast Asia, certainly China.

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Speaker 20: Our exports to the EU went up a billion dollars

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Speaker 20: last year. This is this is a product that we

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Speaker 20: would normally put into the EU. So you know, whilst

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Speaker 20: there's uncertainty there in the US, and I think that's

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Speaker 20: going to go on for some time, we are thing

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Speaker 20: strong demand and certainly in other markets, and now our

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Speaker 20: exporters and nimble they are adjusting.

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Speaker 2: All right, Todd, go well, Todd McClay, Trade minister this morning,

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Speaker 2: Mike likely to see exports of the US subject of

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Speaker 2: fifteen I think fifteen. I think fifteen's about it. Maybe

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Speaker 2: twenty five for steel, a number that's not a major

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Speaker 2: because we don't do a lot of that. Fifteen, Mike,

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Speaker 2: would be the reciprocal for the fifteen percent GST probably

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Speaker 2: the best we can expect that that would be taken

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Speaker 2: into account by the US Balance of trade. Also, of course, anyway,

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Speaker 2: why is New Zealand waiting we should have negotiated our

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Speaker 2: trade deal. Well, the answer to that is, no one

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Speaker 2: in America gives the monkeys about US so I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you realize about that. I doubt that Trump

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Speaker 2: knows anything about New Zealand and beyond lydia Co and

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Speaker 2: Bob Charles, they're not interested in cutting a deal with

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Speaker 2: a country like US specifically, and that's why they blumped

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Speaker 2: us and with the rest of the world. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 2: Australia doesn't even have a deal. It's eleven past sevenski right,

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Speaker 2: A not an idea that's been reheated with a briefing

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Speaker 2: paper suggesting that NCEA, which is about to get some upheaval,

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Speaker 2: of course, has failed to provide clear pathways into the trades.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Sandra Grays the Tertiary Education Union National Secretary and

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Speaker 2: is with us. Very good morning to you, Sandra.

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Speaker 21: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Have you got a view generally on NCEEA and its

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Speaker 2: suitability and how well it's served us.

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Speaker 21: I think that a lot of people I said it's

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Speaker 21: time to review, but that really needs to be done

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Speaker 21: very very carefully and making sure that teachers and students

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Speaker 21: are at the heart of that review. There's no doubt

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Speaker 21: that all systems it can be tweaked and made better.

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Speaker 21: There are some really good things about NCA. There are

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Speaker 21: some things now that clearly people need to look at

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Speaker 21: and people need to consider how we stop some of

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Speaker 21: the aberrant parts of the system getting through.

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Speaker 2: And as the trades thing an NCEEA problem or just

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Speaker 2: a trades thing. In other words, we've always treated trades

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Speaker 2: fairly poorly, doesn't matter what sort of system we're running

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Speaker 2: in the classroom.

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Speaker 10: Look.

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Speaker 21: New Zealand does unfortunately have quite a bad attitude towards

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Speaker 21: trades and vocational education. We have this idea that if

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Speaker 21: you push everybody into the academic and into universities, we're

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Speaker 21: going to get higher wages, You're going to get a

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Speaker 21: better life outcome. So you know, this is a system

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Speaker 21: wide problem. We don't take vocational education seriously and we

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Speaker 21: really don't talk to kids early enough about the many

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Speaker 21: parts that you can take in your life and the

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Speaker 21: many vocations you can go into.

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Speaker 2: Is that the school's job or is that the industry

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Speaker 2: the various industries jobs to get into schools and go

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Speaker 2: Have you thought about the million different things you can

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Speaker 2: do as an engineer, for example, I think.

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Speaker 21: One of the things that we have seen in the

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Speaker 21: system over the last few years is great a collaboration

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Speaker 21: between actually tertiary providers and secondary schools with things like

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Speaker 21: Gateway and Star programs, and these are ones where kids

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Speaker 21: who have a real talent for vocational education go and

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Speaker 21: spit it a bit of time in the workshops instead

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Speaker 21: up on the politics. If we could encourage more of

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Speaker 21: that so they can get a taste of how great

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Speaker 21: it can be to go into one of those many professions.

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Speaker 21: I mean everything from nursing, which is a vocation, through

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Speaker 21: to being an engineer or being a mechanic or a barista.

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Speaker 21: If you don't know what it's like, if you haven't

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Speaker 21: got a clue, why would you pick it is your

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Speaker 21: future career. I mean even something like you do Mike

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Speaker 21: and Journal, radio engineering and sound engineering. Most schools don't

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Speaker 21: have the capacity to show kids what it's like. So

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Speaker 21: we need actually a system that's coherent and works really

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Speaker 21: well and really does give kids those tasters how great

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Speaker 21: it can be.

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Speaker 2: Very well said, have a good weekend. Sandra gra Tertiary

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Speaker 2: Education Union Gateways winner. Our youngest went to a Gateway

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Speaker 2: program and learned from that Gateway program that what she

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Speaker 2: thought she wanted to do, she didn't. When she did it,

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Speaker 2: she didn't like it, and so she's moved in a

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Speaker 2: completely different direction. Elbow moved in a massive way yesterday

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Speaker 2: in Australia in debt relief for students. Speaking of schools

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Speaker 2: and education, he wrote off sixteen billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: student loans.

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Speaker 10: More on that.

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Speaker 2: Shortly fourteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b weanting Mike, plenty of train layers with ranges

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Speaker 2: and big houses through that. It is seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: FBI or expanding as you know. Cash Bettel was in

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Speaker 2: the Capitol yesterday cutting a ribbon strinthening our five Eyes

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Speaker 2: partnership bolstering the defenses against China. Jeffrey Miller's International Geopolitical

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Speaker 2: Landalists back with U. Jeffrey, good morning. See with this

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I got to turn him on. My apologies, Jeffrey, how

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Speaker 2: are you good morning?

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Speaker 10: Mate?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 6: Is this real?

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Speaker 10: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Or is this just the door with a sign on

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Speaker 2: it that says the FBI is in town? Are they

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Speaker 2: actually got some cops in there doing some stuff?

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Speaker 22: I think what's interesting here, Mike is the framing. I mean,

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Speaker 22: it's not new for a FBI director to visit New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: James Comey remember him visited New Zealand back in twenty

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Speaker 22: sixteen and twenty seventeen, and they actually opened a sub

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Speaker 22: office back then, which was effectively a branch office out

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Speaker 22: of the office in Candra. But what is different this

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Speaker 22: time is that cash Bite's openly saying this is about

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Speaker 22: countering the Chinese Communist Party and the Endo Pacific that

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Speaker 22: those are the first firds that he used when he

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Speaker 22: gave his video message about why he was here. And

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Speaker 22: I think it's somewhat uncomfortable to the New Zealand sign.

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Speaker 22: But you have to wonder about the politics of all

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Speaker 22: of this, whether some dealer is also being done. Given

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Speaker 22: today as deadline day for the tariffs, we're hosting a visit.

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Speaker 2: I can here we go and join me, are you,

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey You're going to say open up a new office

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Speaker 2: and we'll give you twelve percent, not fifteen.

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Speaker 22: You have to remember Donald Trump is the is the

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Speaker 22: deal maker in Pieve yep. So you know everything is

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Speaker 22: on the table when it comes to the Trump administration.

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Speaker 22: I wouldn't put it past them. And of course these

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Speaker 22: words from cash Battal about China have clearly irritated the

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Speaker 22: Chinese Embassy and Wellington. They put it out of statement

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Speaker 22: last night condemning what they call a groundless assertions and

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Speaker 22: vilification of China. So it's certainly roughle feathers, and it's

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Speaker 22: a very interesting one.

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Speaker 2: We are such in such a tricky spot, aren't we.

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Speaker 2: We love the Chinese because we've got you know, forty

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Speaker 2: billion dollars worth of two way with them, but you know,

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Speaker 2: when cash comes to town and Donald's doing I mean,

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Speaker 2: we don't know what we're doing. We're looking one way

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Speaker 2: and the other wad. We're sort of stuck, aren't we.

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Speaker 22: Indeed, trying to threat the needle constantly, and it's a

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Speaker 22: it's a really tricky battle if you're the government right now.

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Speaker 22: Of course, Christopher Luxon had that very successful visit to

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Speaker 22: China back in June, had meetings with Ji jimping with

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Speaker 22: Bu Chang the premiere. All went well, and very much

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Speaker 22: trying to keep things on an even keel with China,

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Speaker 22: which is remember the New Zealand's biggest trading partner and

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Speaker 22: still around a third of our exports go to China

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Speaker 22: every year and that is what is really propelling the

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Speaker 22: economy at the moment. The rise and the export trade,

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Speaker 22: and a huge amount of that is going to China,

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Speaker 22: all the meat and dairy exports. So Christopher Luxen is

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Speaker 22: loath to do anything to upset the apple cut when

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Speaker 22: it comes to that. But yet he has to also

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Speaker 22: remember what the United States wants of New Zealand because

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Speaker 22: New Zealand is trying to keep on good terms with

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Speaker 22: the Trump administration, and when you look at the whole

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Speaker 22: games with tariff, that's very much in play.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, have a good week in Jeffreyjeffrey Miller geopolitical analys Mike,

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Speaker 2: I meant rain drovers not rangers. Yes, no, And I

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Speaker 2: know you meant rain rovers not an idiot.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, very baden Esque. His first law passed since his

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Speaker 2: successful election campaign, Elbow Australia student loans have been cut

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Speaker 2: by twenty percent, wiping more than sixteen billion Australian off

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Speaker 2: the three million people. He promised it during the election

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Speaker 2: campaign because millennials and gen z has made up forty

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Speaker 2: three percent of the eighteen million people. And rolled the

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Speaker 2: boat and he thought, what do they need? He said,

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Speaker 2: they need debt relief and he gave it to them.

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Speaker 2: An average of twenty seven thousand dollars would have five

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Speaker 2: and a half thousand dollars wiped off backdated to the

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Speaker 2: beginning of June, also raising the minimum repayment threshold from

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Speaker 2: an income of fifty four thousand and two sixty seven thousand.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have the money to do that, of course,

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Speaker 2: but doesn't stop a politician.

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Speaker 2: of them. Yes, speaking of which August six, is it

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Speaker 2: just me? Or is this you moving at pace? I

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Speaker 2: mean where did seven months go? Are the recovery? For yes,

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Speaker 2: by August the recovery was supposed to be here. The

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Speaker 2: Greenshits were supposed to have flourish stuff was supposed to

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Speaker 2: be better. Ah pay wave charge ban six not perfect,

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Speaker 2: but a practical move that should help building supplies six

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Speaker 2: not per I think that a house should be cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Kiew we bank six half a billion might help, But

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Speaker 2: don't hold your breath. If both of us who say

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Speaker 2: the competition between banks already exists, all it might end

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Speaker 2: up doing is showing the willis theory as a nicoler

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Speaker 2: is a theory. Bank lending and switching though seven a

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Speaker 2: lot of new lending and record amount of switching going

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Speaker 2: on in June. Isn't that called done? What's that called?

953
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Speaker 2: That's competition? Zelenski two much around with the corruption officers,

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Speaker 2: got himself as first public protest last weekend for his

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Speaker 2: troubles and enraged Europe and doing so. Who are now withholding?

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Speaker 10: Eight?

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Speaker 2: Is that as big as cock up in the war

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Speaker 2: or what government board fees? Four? I mean a classic

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Speaker 2: example of no matter how logical it was, it was

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Speaker 2: always going to have image issues, wasn't it? Road cone

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Speaker 2: funding seven? More stick than carrot? And that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: councils need. Publishing of council stats yesterday on spending six,

963
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Speaker 2: more pressure from central government exactly what councils need. Are

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Speaker 2: the worry is seven? See a loss to the Titans

965
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Speaker 2: and we lose Fisher Harris as well. If you're a doubter,

966
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Speaker 2: there's a bit of material there for you to angst over.

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Speaker 2: But I am still a believer and this says sold

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Speaker 2: out tonight for the Dolphins. Rob Penny seven, Glad he's back,

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Speaker 2: and why not one bad year one great year. You'd

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Speaker 2: want another dose of the great, wouldn't you? For goodness sake?

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Speaker 2: Egg law four, I mean kids collecting eggs Allegedly it's

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Speaker 2: an issue and needs reform, which is just as well

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Speaker 2: given there's like nothing else going on as there are

974
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Speaker 2: the geothermal draft Plan eight. Now, this is progress, this

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Speaker 2: is risk taking, this is visionary. It's tapping into what

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Speaker 2: we're good at and running with it more please, Shane Jones, speaking.

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Speaker 18: Of we J eight a lot of what I'm doing

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Speaker 18: at the moment as an active penance.

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Speaker 2: Move of the week, had a couple of glasses of

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Speaker 2: red turned his phone off. Mister the alerts. Now, that's

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Speaker 2: a plan and that's the weak Copies on the website

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Speaker 2: and by the way, copies of this will be widely

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Speaker 2: available in the New Air New Zealand Koru lounges black

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Speaker 2: and white for the ordinary Air points holder, in full

985
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Speaker 2: color in the business section. Faskyme, Mike, all our kids

986
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Speaker 2: have worked hard to pay off their student loans. If

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand a debt write off was considered, they

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Speaker 2: would feel seriously agree, Peter, that's the downside of it.

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Speaker 2: All biden faced elbow will face it if you do

990
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Speaker 2: the right thing by yourself, graduate pay your loan down.

991
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Speaker 2: And then a few years later the politician of the

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Speaker 2: day goes suddenly, Hey, guess what I've got for you?

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Speaker 2: Free money I don't have anyway. You have every right

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Speaker 2: to feel a grieved Mike. Next time you have Sky on,

995
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Speaker 2: please ask why international crickets no longer included. They call

996
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Speaker 2: themselves the home of sport, but no England v India

997
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Speaker 2: or the black Caps. It's competition. They got out bid

998
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Speaker 2: or they weren't interested one or the other. I mean

999
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Speaker 2: the cricket Ins and barbe is On. I think three

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Speaker 2: have got it at the moment, and Spark has had.

1001
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Speaker 2: It's competition. You bid for it. If you when the bid,

1002
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Speaker 2: you get it. I mean, Sky doesn't own everything news

1003
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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: Next it's your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and

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Speaker 1: honored backs. The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery.

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Speaker 1: Never stop discovering news, tog Dad be like my.

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Speaker 2: Senior electrician six plus years tradesman earned ninety three six

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Speaker 2: hundred parandum with overtime generally something around one hundred and

1009
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Speaker 2: twenty three thousand, and they work hard. I'm sick to

1010
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Speaker 2: death of hearing about the bloody nurses and the school

1011
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: teacher as well. I mean, it's not the nurses and

1012
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: school teacher. It's mainly the unions, right, The trades are

1013
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Speaker 2: the answer for many, many people. And the number of

1014
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Speaker 2: people who sit at university. And I discover this again

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00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: over the last handful of years with the kids who've

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Speaker 2: gone through university, youngest one still at university. The number

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Speaker 2: of people sitting at university is doing a b com

1018
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: for no particular reason is ridiculous. And it's just this thing,

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00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: this vibe that when you go to school, you must

1020
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Speaker 2: go to university because if you go to university, good

1021
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: things will happen to you. If you're going to be

1022
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Speaker 2: a doctor or a lawyer or something very specific, of

1023
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: course it will. But if you're just in that kind

1024
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: of well, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

1025
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: I might as well park myself for three or four

1026
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: years and run up some debt. Where does it lead

1027
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: nowhere particularly good? The number of kids I can show

1028
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: you these days who have popped out with their BA

1029
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: and have got nowhere. You know, this is just our

1030
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Speaker 2: personal experience, it's not necessarily the answer. The guy's name

1031
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: I've forgotten, but who's the head of the universities, and

1032
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Speaker 2: he's in the universities. He's on the program fairly regularly.

1033
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: He says, if you're on a pathway, if you've got

1034
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Speaker 2: a plan universities for you, if you're just wandering aimlessly

1035
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Speaker 2: through life, then it probably isn't and therefore trades can

1036
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Speaker 2: be a fantastic option. Twenty two to eight. So blown

1037
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Speaker 2: away by that, Glenn was just going.

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Speaker 19: Oh, I'm just worrying about That's that up. I was

1039
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Speaker 19: just thinking about the guests we had on before. He

1040
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 19: was talking about all the kids who want to be

1041
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 19: like Mike Hosking and do nothing wrong with Mike ho.

1042
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 19: I'm just not quite sure what training's involved and the.

1043
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: Zero training, and it's different these days, but the zero

1044
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: put the needle back down on the records. When you're

1045
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: there with twenty two minutes away from eight. Hard to

1046
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: believe we're number one at times, isn't? How did that happen?

1047
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: We have movement in the genetically modified food sector space.

1048
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: Government's given the green light to new rules and definitions

1049
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: food producer using new breeding techniques, including gene editing, but

1050
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Speaker 2: without foreigner you know, won't need a genetically modified label

1051
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: in the supermarket. Andrew hoggot as the Minister of Food

1052
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Speaker 2: and Well, it's Andrew, very good morning to you.

1053
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 14: Good morning Mike.

1054
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Now, this line's up with Australia, right, Yes, this is.

1055
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Speaker 14: Part of the cisines work Food Safety Australia New Zealand

1056
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 14: and there was a proposal to change the labeling requirements

1057
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Speaker 14: to ensure that the labeling requirements were in line with

1058
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Speaker 14: the Australian legislation and the scene to be New Zealand legislation.

1059
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: Are we happy with that or of because we want

1060
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: to be in sync so we don't have a whole

1061
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: lot of you know, misunderstanding going on. Are we happy

1062
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: with what they've got and what they've given us and

1063
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: what we've agreed to or would we could we have

1064
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: done something completely different?

1065
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Speaker 14: No, No, I'm pretty comfortable with this that the lines

1066
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 14: up with where we're gained in terms of legislation. That

1067
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 14: makes you know, it's simple to understand thing for producers

1068
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Speaker 14: of food. You know, if there's no novel DNA in

1069
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 14: this food, then you don't have to put a genetically

1070
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 14: modified label on it and save some costs. So you know,

1071
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Speaker 14: as far as I'm concerned, it's pretty straightforward and sensible.

1072
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: How controversial's gee these days? Has it settled down or not?

1073
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 14: Look, there's still a lot of concern from some people,

1074
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 14: and you know it's you know, get the odd quite

1075
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 14: a few letters coming through of people who are really

1076
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 14: opposed to it, and letters.

1077
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Speaker 2: From the same people over and over again with scrrelly handwriting.

1078
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Speaker 2: Or are they different?

1079
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Speaker 14: There's a fear that are written in capitals in bold

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Speaker 14: but genderly. You know, there's a fair that are different.

1081
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Speaker 14: But I guess I'd just say to these people, we're

1082
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 14: not taking away your choice. If you don't want to

1083
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 14: consume this stuff, if you don't want to partake, then

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Speaker 14: there will be options out there for you. You know,

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Speaker 14: I do get a lot of other letters from people

1086
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Speaker 14: wanting all sorts of stuff put on labels for everything,

1087
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Speaker 14: and end of the day, you know, we just not

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Speaker 14: only have the minimum beer on the labels in terms

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Speaker 14: of what you need for real safety information, because putting

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Speaker 14: all this other stuff on just adds to cost and

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Speaker 14: a sparison are where everyone's worried about the cost of food.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything actually out there at the moment, if

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Speaker 2: I only do the supermarket this morning, can I find

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Speaker 2: something genetically engineered or not?

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Speaker 6: Not?

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Speaker 14: In terms of in terms of gene editing, there's probably

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Speaker 14: very few products that are on the market. I know,

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Speaker 14: you know there are genetically modified really no niche ingredients

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Speaker 14: that may go into various foods. But the way it

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Speaker 14: is because they're only a tiny little component. The whole

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Speaker 14: product doesn't need to be labeled genetically modified. So there's

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Speaker 14: probably a little bit out there, but not a hell

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Speaker 14: of a lot.

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Speaker 2: So there's more for the future. Hey, have you been

1105
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: following this Agra zero thing and these methane pills the

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Speaker 2: cows are going to be taking?

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Speaker 14: Haven't caught up with the methane pills? One I bore

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Speaker 14: that appeared the Bowlus. Yes, I'm aware of the bowlers.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Bowluss's pills. I'm trying to go to an

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Speaker 2: urban market. But what I'm what I'm saying is so

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Speaker 2: you give these cows the bowlers and suddenly there are

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Speaker 2: methanees reduced by they claim seventy percent. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a game changer, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 14: What I would say though, is what everyone probably doesn't

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Speaker 14: realize apart from those of us that have put a

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Speaker 14: ballus down in cow's throat, you do have to push

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00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 14: the animal into the headlock, close the headlock, then wrestle

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Speaker 14: with the animal eight minut's mouth up, putting the plunger

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Speaker 14: down its throat. So that's fine, I would it'll be, Yes,

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Speaker 14: it's potentially useful. It wouldn't be a job I would

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Speaker 14: be looking forward to doing with five hundred odd cows.

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Speaker 14: But be other technologies.

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Speaker 2: What if you can reduce me thane by seventy percent?

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Speaker 2: Where this is where we want to be heading, isn't it?

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Speaker 14: Oh, look there's other I think there's this and other

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Speaker 14: technologies that you know, we'll have the potential to remove

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Speaker 14: all this worrying and angst thing about methane and just

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Speaker 14: let farmers carry on with farming. Yeah, I'd probably be

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00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 14: there's other technologies that I think would fit better into

1132
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Speaker 14: my farm than that one. In particular, bit each farm

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Speaker 14: to each farmer to their own.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, good insight. Andrew Hoggard, who's the Minister of Food.

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Speaker 2: You see the wrestling the cow thing I wasn't fully

1136
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Speaker 2: aware of. So and if you got five hundred six

1137
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: is right, you want to wrestle five hundred cows. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: my point being AGRA zero, we could be the first

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Speaker 2: agricultural sector in the world to gain these particular tools.

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Speaker 2: Ruminant buyer Tech is developing these slow release boulders, right,

1141
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: and you feed it to livestock. And so this is government.

1142
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: It's got a government backing because AGRA zero a bunch

1143
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: of investments, money invested, and now they've got something that

1144
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: they think might be a game changer.

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Speaker 19: So you've got to wrestle the car cow and then

1146
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 19: put a plunger down.

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00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you grab the cow by the neck and you

1148
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Speaker 2: open me I should know this. I'm from the way exactly,

1149
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: and you open its mouth and then you ram the

1150
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: bowlers down its throat and the cow is the guest being,

1151
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: the guest being as Andrew, the guest being that the

1152
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: cow's not overly keen on you doing that. And if

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Speaker 2: you do that five hundred times, that's a good day's work,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? And you deserve more than ninety three thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to eight, the like Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: Talks, it'd be for a company called Mint Innovation. If

1159
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Speaker 2: you haven't caught up on this, I don't know how

1160
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Speaker 2: it worked. But nevertheless they've got part of it, got

1161
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Speaker 2: themselves involved in an eighteen million dollar recycling program out

1162
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Speaker 2: of Britain. So it's part of the UK government's two

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Speaker 2: and a half billion pounds So let's make that five

1164
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Speaker 2: and a half billion New Zealand dollars Drive thirty five program,

1165
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Speaker 2: Drive thirty five. Many they're transferring slightly but surely to

1166
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: EV's batteries blah blah blah. Anyway, what they're looking to

1167
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Speaker 2: do with MINT is they're going to create what they

1168
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Speaker 2: call a closed loop domestic supply chain. So they're recycling batteries.

1169
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: So they're taking old batteries out of cars and they're

1170
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Speaker 2: extracting the lithium, the nickel and the cobalt and then

1171
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: they're putting them back in for new lithium batteries. And

1172
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Speaker 2: so at the moment they're not at scale. They've got

1173
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Speaker 2: about twenty thousand tons of batteries, but it's not enough,

1174
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Speaker 2: so they want to build, build, build, But anyway, it's

1175
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Speaker 2: a New Zealand company that's involved in the British scheme

1176
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Speaker 2: and they've got eighteen million dollars worth of work, so

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Speaker 2: you can't argue with that. Speaking of cars, can I

1178
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Speaker 2: just allude you to if you're a car nut. I

1179
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Speaker 2: discovered purely accident yesterday on YouTube, and I'm glad I'm

1180
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Speaker 2: not banned from YouTube and living in Australia, but nevertheless,

1181
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Speaker 2: I discovered on YouTube yesterday Chris Harris, who's ex top

1182
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Gear and does his own thing these days, like so

1183
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: many people do on places like YouTube. He hooked up

1184
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Speaker 2: with Verstappan and it was a really, I mean, probably

1185
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Speaker 2: the most fascinating thing I've seen on cars in a

1186
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: very very very very long period of time. And Verstappen

1187
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Speaker 2: is as close to a robot as you could ever want,

1188
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: but he almost sounded human at times, and so Harris

1189
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Speaker 2: picked him up. It was all done for Ford. Ford

1190
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Speaker 2: have got a new car out of Mustang GTD, which

1191
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Speaker 2: is a It can go on the road, but it's

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Speaker 2: basically built for a track. I looked it up. It's

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Speaker 2: half a million dollars. I don't think you can get

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Speaker 2: one here, but in America it's three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars over a half million dollars. Anyway, they

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Speaker 2: went to the track. They drive in and old he

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Speaker 2: picked him up, He picked the steppin up in an

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Speaker 2: old Ford and they drove him to the track and

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Speaker 2: they chatted away. Anyway, the point of it was Harris

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Speaker 2: wanted to nerd him out and he wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: about the anatomy of driving, the anatomy of corners, how

1202
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: you look at a corner, how he sees the corner,

1203
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: how he sees the track, how he prepares, what goes

1204
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Speaker 2: through his mind, how he got so good, how much

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Speaker 2: of its natural, how much of its training, how much

1206
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Speaker 2: of it's father And if you're into that sort of thing,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be into the weeds, because it's not

1208
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Speaker 2: a hey, what are you drinking? What's your favorite color?

1209
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Speaker 2: It's not a beaver interview. So it's really fascinating. So

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Speaker 2: he goes round the track and the way he drives

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Speaker 2: that car blows Harris's mind, because Harris is of course

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Speaker 2: a very good driver and a professional in his own right,

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Speaker 2: and he was blown away. So the whole thing is

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Speaker 2: well well well worth looking up before you get on

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Speaker 2: to the Hungarian Grand Prix this weekend as well. Top

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Speaker 2: tip from me tend Away.

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Speaker 1: The mic Hostal breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be shipping away from christ Church. Success train rolls on.

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Speaker 2: The American multinational Live Nation has Gone and bought Team

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Speaker 2: Event Now that's the company behind Electric Avenue. You know

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Speaker 2: Electric Avenue. Last timer's festival delivered the christ Jurch's biggest

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Speaker 2: visitors spend in a decade. Layton Lili's president of the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Promoters Association and as well us late.

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Speaker 18: In morning, Good morning, Mike, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Thank you? Is this a classic business movie?

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Speaker 2: Start something, you grow, hope that someone comes along and

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Speaker 2: gives you money? Is that how it works?

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Speaker 10: All?

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Speaker 2: This is just one of those weird things that happened.

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Speaker 18: I think it's a sort of a happy coincidence. I mean,

1231
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Speaker 18: I think we just have to give credit where credits due.

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Speaker 18: This festival's part of, I guess the arts renaissance and

1233
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 18: crisis that's happened over the last decade or so, and

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Speaker 18: it's just expanded and expanded and clearly gotten on the

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Speaker 18: runway of Live Nation Have Gone. You know what, we

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Speaker 18: can add something to this festival, we can safeguarded into

1237
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 18: the future and yeah, keep it going for a long

1238
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 18: time to come and have to say. In the environment

1239
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Speaker 18: we've had in the last few years with festivals, it's actually.

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Speaker 10: A good thing.

1241
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 2: I think the New Zealander I was going to ask

1242
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Speaker 2: you about the festival to come to that in the moment.

1243
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: But Live Nation being an international does it just become

1244
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: another thing a commodity as opposed to what it was,

1245
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: or they can bring heft that will enhance it.

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Speaker 18: Well, that's the million dollar question. I hope that this

1247
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 18: very unique festival that has been born out of price

1248
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 18: Eurch somehow keeps its local feel to it and it

1249
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 18: doesn't just become another homogeneous international version of something that

1250
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 18: Live Nation do us where. But I think what they're

1251
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 18: going to do is they're going to put some big

1252
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 18: financial might behind it. The biggest thing festivals have a

1253
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 18: problem with is securing these big name acts to actually

1254
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 18: pull the punters. And that's what Live Nation will give them.

1255
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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, that festival thing. So in Australia you

1256
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: can't buy a festival for love nor money. Something's gone

1257
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: wrong with festivals. Is that the same here or do

1258
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: you need to have something in it that's different or

1259
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 18: It must be because Australia is having huge troubles with it.

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 18: Yet for the longest time England have had these run

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Speaker 18: of long running festivals and you know what, for years,

1263
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 18: if you go back, New Zealand had major problems with festivals,

1264
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 18: you know Sweetwaters way back when I was a child,

1265
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 18: the Neon Picnic all went bust. But in recent years,

1266
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 18: starting with Rhythm and Vines and that, we've managed to

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00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 18: figure it all out again.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 18: The New Zealand public must like something about America. Maybe

1271
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 18: it's Hagley Park, it's going somewhere unique to watch great

1272
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 18: music acts, whatever they've done, whatever, there's secret sources. It's

1273
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 18: working and you know they obviously have got a plan

1274
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 18: to make it get even bigger.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Good on you late and appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Late in Lilas, I was just trying to work out

1277
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Speaker 2: whether I got boot electric Avenue and I can't remember

1278
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Speaker 2: if he electric avenue. Kadie and I hosted an event

1279
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: in christ Dukee a couple of years ago. I think

1280
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Speaker 2: I might have been Christmas in the Bark or so,

1281
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Speaker 2: I can't remember. Anyway, A couple of winers got onto

1282
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Speaker 2: the local rag and they said, Hoskins coming to christ

1283
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Speaker 2: duties and then we know we're going to But I

1284
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Speaker 2: think my reception was reasonably good. I did get booed

1285
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: at Deepak Chopra. That was a funny night. I might

1286
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 2: say that. Till after eight o'clock. I'm just thinking about

1287
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: lux and getting booed at the netball, which I don't

1288
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: even know he did get booed at the nitball, to

1289
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: be on, if you listened to the noise, it was

1290
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: a lot of background kind yeah, yeah, yeah, like you

1291
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, after the netball, the game's over,

1292
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: I got properly booed. I mean, you know, I got

1293
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: booed better than Lucks and got I got booed better

1294
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: at Chopper, then Luxe and got boot at the Netphik

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Speaker 2: boom by Deepak. No deepact loved me. Me and Dpak

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Speaker 2: got on like a house on fire. Which was the

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Speaker 2: ironic thing because people are misinterpreting. Some people don't like me.

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Speaker 2: It just just just to give some background. Some people

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Speaker 2: don't like me, and so this got a bit carried away.

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Speaker 2: At this I was hosting an evening with Deepak Chopra

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Speaker 2: and I came out on stage and people started booing.

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, the hell was this is Deepak Chopper.

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Speaker 2: For God's sake, you's supposed to be spirits and loves

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Speaker 2: and be at peace with each other. And a bunch

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Speaker 2: of exactly a bunch of losers in the audience getting

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Speaker 2: all agra. In fact, I called them losers. Probably didn't

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Speaker 2: help them, that's why they're booing, sort of. And Chris

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Speaker 2: Khawk's be Tim Wilson after right after the news, which is.

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Speaker 1: Next the news and the news makers, the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news talks ed b.

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Speaker 6: I watched the.

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Speaker 2: Dance for them all names.

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Speaker 11: A little promise of pure delays.

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Speaker 2: You'll never get through.

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Speaker 14: This is.

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Speaker 2: My first R rated movie, starred this Blake. It was

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Speaker 2: an R thirteen and I snuck in and I was

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01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: only twelve, and I was petrified that I was going

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Speaker 2: to get caught. But I didn't the Revenge of Ella's Cooper,

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: so I didn't realize that the Ellis Cooper Group only

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: made seven albums before he went solo. Then in twenty

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: twenty one, there was a thing called Detroit Stories where

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Speaker 2: he reunited with the surviving members of the original group,

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Speaker 2: but he only reunited with them for two songs. So

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Speaker 2: the Revenge of ellis who gets the original lineup back

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Speaker 2: again for a brand new set of songs with their

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Speaker 2: original producer, who's got called Bob and working at an

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Speaker 2: old school recording studio for their first full album to

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Speaker 2: get us since the mid seventies. And this is it,

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Speaker 2: King and Welcome sixteen tracks for fifty nine minutes and

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Speaker 2: fifty eight Lauries the Week.

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Speaker 1: In Review with two degrees fighting for fair for Kiwi business.

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Speaker 2: I want to say he's got a two or pretty

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01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: handicapped on the golf course. He's very, very good golfer.

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Speaker 2: And we had him on the program. When did we

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Speaker 2: have him on the Programer's had a quick guess it

1338
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Speaker 2: was a while back. And I want to say twenty

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Speaker 2: another one thing sixteen. I'm going to say twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Saim Wilson's with us along with Kate Hawk's be good morning,

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Speaker 2: good good mine.

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Speaker 23: Do you remember when we got people booing?

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 24: Yeah, I just want to raise this booing thing because

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Speaker 24: I think booing is solo.

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Speaker 10: Rent.

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Speaker 24: I'm very disappointed in a Deepak Chow for audience for

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Speaker 24: booing it all because they should bills in.

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Speaker 23: And also, I want to say, regarding people who hate you, then.

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Speaker 6: The dog goes. Yeah, I don't like it much either.

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Speaker 23: It's not including the dog, it's someone arriving at the house.

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Speaker 24: Regarding people who hate you, they're usually people who don't

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Speaker 24: listen to you, don't know you, because to.

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Speaker 2: Know you is to love you, to know you as

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Speaker 2: to like you a bit more than people to know

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Speaker 2: you as to not hate you quite as much. I

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Speaker 2: think they're boilers.

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Speaker 6: Well you want, you want Jeremy Piven over? I mean

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Speaker 6: it was hard work, That was work, but but it

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Speaker 6: was great lasting.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to Peven in the moment? What

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Speaker 2: did I say for Cooper twenty sixteen? So nine years?

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Speaker 2: It was twenty eleven, twenty eleven. I wanted to say

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven or twenty twelve, but I didn't think I

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Speaker 2: was on the radio then, But I was, wasn't I

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Speaker 2: In fact, I was on the radio in eighteen twenty two.

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Speaker 2: So what do I say? Anyway? So now, talk talk

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Speaker 2: to me about Piven, to Tim, talk to me about

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Speaker 2: your review of Jeremy Piven.

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Speaker 6: Well, I thought, okay, I gave but okay with ten

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Speaker 6: out of ten, because it was it was real. So

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Speaker 6: when you scolded him turn off your phone, He's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: the lightings and here's crap, but he still was. What

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Speaker 6: we loved about was the tension between you know, the

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Speaker 6: fake celebrity interview.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 6: This is beautiful, life is fantastic. There was also this

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Speaker 6: counter narrative of I'm not sure about you. The lighting's

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01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 6: crap in here. Oh, by the way, I'm here to

1379
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Speaker 6: sell something. I'm funny, are you though? Are you really?

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Speaker 6: It's brilliant?

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Speaker 2: Okay, very nice. What's your review, Caddie, Ah, I thought of.

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Speaker 23: I thought you two weren't quite on the same page.

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 6: No, I weren't.

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Speaker 23: I just didn't learn anything. I just didn't think he

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Speaker 23: brought anything to the table other than he chose his

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Speaker 23: parents and he thinks age is just a number.

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Speaker 5: I didn't really learn.

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Speaker 23: Anything more about him. I don't know that he was

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Speaker 23: conversational and convivial and chatty in a way that I

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Speaker 23: probably would have enjoyed a bit more. I he actually

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Speaker 23: brought something to the table, Kate.

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Speaker 6: I reckon it was in this bases and the stuff

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Speaker 6: below what he said and the awkward gaps.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, you know, what's what's the most important

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Speaker 6: thing in radio?

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Speaker 2: The gaps?

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Speaker 6: Dead air?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their gaps.

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Speaker 14: You got it, you got it.

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01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 6: Asking And so when he said, you know, I'm not saying.

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Speaker 2: You avoiding radio dead air, the well, here's here's there's

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Speaker 2: no dead air in this segment. What am I talking about?

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Speaker 2: The It is actually Sam's fault because we had no

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01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: we had we had him on a couple of months

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Speaker 2: ago and he struck me at the time as being

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Speaker 2: slightly eclictical weird, and I thought, so that was when

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Speaker 2: I said, so let's not get it. And I said

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Speaker 2: something like when you hear come on in, which of

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Speaker 2: course I never mean. But so Sam takes that stuff seriously.

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01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: So Sam takes this stuff seriously. And he gets them

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Speaker 2: in and he says, Jeremy Pippins coming in tomorrow, and

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Speaker 2: I why are we doing that? And he goes, because

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Speaker 2: you said when you're here, come on in. Do I

1415
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: take me seriously? Anyway? Comes in the studio. He comes

1416
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Speaker 2: in the studio and he's sitting in the studio and

1417
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Speaker 2: he's got his headphones in and I'm out doing doing

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: doing other stuff, and I come into the studio. And

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Speaker 2: I walk into the studio and I go Jeremy Peven,

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Speaker 2: thinking he'll say something like my casking, you know, and

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: off we go. He looks up from his whatever he's

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Speaker 2: listening to on the phone. He goes yes, and I

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Speaker 2: good Mike Costing and he goes hello, And then he said,

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01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: I said, what are you tuned into something? He goes

1425
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: an endless loops, just an endless loop of music. It's

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Speaker 2: just an endless loop of music. And I'm thinking, okay,

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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: you're like cuckoo anyway I thought he was.

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 10: I could.

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Speaker 2: I cannot work him as one of those rare things.

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: I can't work out as to whether he was bantering

1431
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: with me and he's genuinely that's just his sense of humor, right,

1432
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: and or whether he hates me and he hated the interview.

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Speaker 2: He walked out of the interview. He said, that's the

1434
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Speaker 2: worst end of you I've ever done. He walks out

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Speaker 2: of the studio, and I'm thinking, which it wasn't, because

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Speaker 2: I didn't think, you know what I mean. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, he's not.

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Speaker 25: That's certainly not the worst interview you've ever done. It's weird,

1439
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 25: say that well, well, it's it's just demeanor, though it was.

1440
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 25: It was the affable at least, or very affable, very likable,

1441
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 25: very likable.

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Speaker 2: We're sitting there chatting away. I'll tell you the funniest

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Speaker 2: part in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past eight, the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: Talks B News Talks sixteen past eight a.

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: Week in review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions

1448
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: to the table.

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Speaker 2: Jim Wilson, Kate Hawksby the best part of it was

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: that he handed me He's got this thing about Joe Parker, right,

1451
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: and he was going to be at a show last night,

1452
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: Joe Parker, and as he had Asanya and I didn't

1453
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: believe him anyway, So he goes and hands me his phone.

1454
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: He turns his phone on, he hands me his phone

1455
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: to show me the Joe Parker texts. And it's only

1456
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: after that and I thought, an unusual thing for you

1457
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: to do, to hand me the phone, because sure enough

1458
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: people get nervous around phones. And as soon as he

1459
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 2: handed me the phone and I started looking at the text.

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01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Of course, what would many a hosts do?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well look for the other stuff, right, But

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Speaker 6: there's that.

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Speaker 19: One of those entertaining side.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those entertaining silences. See, I think

1465
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Speaker 2: you're wrong. No, I think I think you're wrong there

1466
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: till I don't think entertaining silences work at all. Anyways.

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Speaker 2: Of course, if you watch the video, you can see

1468
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: it in his face. He suddenly realizes he's handed his

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: phone over to what he clearly assumes is some crazed idiot,

1470
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: and he needs to be desperate to get back the phone,

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Speaker 2: so heleaps up and he grabs the phone off me.

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Speaker 2: It was the weirdest thing anyway.

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Speaker 23: That's I also think that just just maybe to give

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 23: him a tiny bit of credit.

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Speaker 24: I think often, especially Americans, they don't realize how quick

1476
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 24: the interviewers, and especially if they come into the studio,

1477
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 24: they're sort of thinking, I've come all into the studio,

1478
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 24: I'm sitting down, the lights are on, I'm here for

1479
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 24: half an hour or just ease into it, and they're

1480
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 24: just sort of starting you go, okay, thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: And it could it could be a little it could

1482
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: be a little bit podcast. You couldn't Most people think

1483
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: the whole thing is going to last an how when

1484
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: it's really only going to be seven minutes now. Exciting

1485
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: news for you. Katie's pickleball league was launched this week.

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: The pickleball league was launched this week. Do you want

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Speaker 2: to join?

1488
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 23: No, you can't join. There's a waitlist and what No? No,

1489
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 23: so he's permanently injured.

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: That's true. I don't want to add to that.

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 6: Hey, listen, let's hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, pull that back.

1492
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 6: I'm getting the splint off on Tuesday. I should be fine.

1493
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: Are you what?

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: What hands the splint on? Is it your pickleballs?

1495
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 14: On my right?

1496
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 6: It's I'm very ambidextra.

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Speaker 2: The problem, Katie, is if I could be And I

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Speaker 2: don't mean to criticize you, and God bless you for

1499
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: launching a pickleball league, but to launch it in winter

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Speaker 2: is troublesome, isn't it.

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 23: Well we're reviewing that.

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 6: Well, apparently there's a weight list though I can't get in.

1503
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 6: Or is there list? They just told want me to

1504
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 6: come along?

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: Is that because it's raining, I'll join you to the

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01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: wait list?

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01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 23: No, no problems is.

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Speaker 2: The wait list? Can you blackball somebody you know? Does

1509
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: the committee meet and they go, well, Sharon's next up

1510
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: on the list. Do we like sharing in your black

1511
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: ball no no.

1512
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 23: No blackballing first and first served, no problems.

1513
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: Glenn said to me this week, Visa be the payway chargers.

1514
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: He said, I don't can't believe that. You said, so

1515
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: the business where you stick your card into the slot

1516
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: and you don't get charged. I didn't know that. He said, what,

1517
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 2: I can't believe you said that out loud.

1518
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 23: That's right, I couldn't believe it either. I'm with Glenn.

1519
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 23: It's so embarrassing most of what you say out loud.

1520
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 23: You and also sex embarrassing being with you in.

1521
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 24: Shops because you just tat and go and you don't

1522
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 24: even know they could have put ten million dollars there.

1523
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 6: You never know how much he taps and goes. Or

1524
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 6: he says, can I do crypto? And that's that's exactly

1525
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 6: even more embarrassed. So I think put it.

1526
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 23: Put it, and he's like, I don't understand it's but.

1527
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 6: This is but this is perfect, this is like, this

1528
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 6: is why you those who can insert it, it's brilliant

1529
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 6: because everyone who doesn't. It's a laziness tax, it's a

1530
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 6: stupidity tax, it's a it's a.

1531
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 19: Well and it's technology and it shouldn't cost any more

1532
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 19: than all the other technology.

1533
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not that that's about making money at

1534
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day. But but I think the

1535
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: confusion comes from the fact if a person like me

1536
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 2: tapp and go versus sticking it in, there's no difference

1537
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: to that. Therefore, why would I stick it in? And

1538
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: if I can tap and go? And if you don't

1539
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: know that there's no charge with the stick it in,

1540
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: and there is a charge in the tap and go,

1541
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: hence you suddenly confused, don't you.

1542
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 24: The coolest retailers go, hey, there's a surcharge. Often they'll say,

1543
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 24: don't you know why reward the banks? There's a surcharge,

1544
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 24: so why don't you stick it in? And and they

1545
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 24: give you that, which I always appreciate because I never

1546
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 24: want to do the searcharge because why would we want

1547
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 24: to make the banks agree more?

1548
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: But am I right in saying Katie? In the country,

1549
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of payWave about the place.

1550
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 23: Everywhere. What are you talking about?

1551
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 6: When you go into there's not a lot of fop

1552
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 6: Like I went we were we went to a chop

1553
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 6: and it's like there's no there's there's no f poss

1554
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 6: so I actually had to borrow cash off a mate

1555
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 6: to buy a couple of shirts. I loved it.

1556
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: There's no how are they supposed to do business?

1557
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 6: They had they had a lot of they had a lot.

1558
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 10: Of inventory, let's put it that way.

1559
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.

1560
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 7: No.

1561
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: My point being in the country, a lot of people

1562
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: don't pay the payWave charges in terms of the retailers,

1563
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: so as they say no f post or no payWave.

1564
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 2: Haven't you seen that when the shops in the country.

1565
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 23: Oh you're talking about? Really, that's what the country is?

1566
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 23: The country New Zealand's like in the front.

1567
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 10: What clan are you on?

1568
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 23: Sorry?

1569
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 6: And this is and this is how the magic works

1570
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 6: between Mike and Cakes.

1571
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:53,879
Speaker 23: You're me pivns.

1572
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 7: This is like.

1573
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: He's probably listening to this now post a show last

1574
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: night wondering what the hell is talking to as mad

1575
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: as you're going see, I told you, guys, guys are

1576
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: clown nice.

1577
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 6: We're brilliant.

1578
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 19: He's saying my strategy work brilliantly that I'm giving getting

1579
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 19: almost as much your time.

1580
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Speaker 2: That's too days. It's probably true. Well done, n It's

1581
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Speaker 2: nice to see you guys. Have a good week. In

1582
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Speaker 2: kat hawksbeat Tim Wilson eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: in August already, so get over to the Chemist Warehouse.

1599
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Speaker 2: In addition, by the way to visiting the local Chemist

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Speaker 2: head on over to chemist Warehouse Great Savings every Day,

1604
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Speaker 2: asking re launching the Presidential Fitness Test. This is a

1605
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: fitness test for kids in schools, not a test for

1606
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: the president of the day. And he's surrounded by j

1607
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: d and he's got Harrison Buckner there. But is it

1608
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: but Butner? Butker? Who's the Kansas City Chiefs kicker? He's there?

1609
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: And is it triple H or double H's triple Triple

1610
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 2: H is the wrestler his son? So sound like you

1611
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: know about it as much about it Sun's double H.

1612
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: I know about Buttker, but triple H. I didn't know

1613
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: anything about anyway. Surrounded by jocks, and he's telling them

1614
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 2: how good looking they are and how far they kick

1615
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: and how strong they are, and they're going to all

1616
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: get their presidential things.

1617
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 19: They all seem to be the best in the world

1618
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 19: at this their respective sports exactly.

1619
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: Because he's the best in the world of being a president.

1620
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 2: We all know that. For goodness sake, I'm sure he

1621
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: said that several times. By the way, very good piece

1622
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: in the Herald. If you haven't seen It by Liam Napier.

1623
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of Sport Joe Parker. He comes to the conclusion

1624
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: that Parker, despite the fact they've got a thirty day

1625
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: negotiation period for Usick, it isn't going to happen, and

1626
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: it isn't going to happen, and Parker is never going

1627
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: to get a shot at Usick to be the world

1628
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: champion because Yusick's got the WBA, wbcib F and the WBA,

1629
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 2: so it would be all and it would be one

1630
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: of the great fights. But the Saudis don't like Parker.

1631
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: He's not a name, he's not he doesn't pay the

1632
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: bills and therefore he's never going to get the opportunity

1633
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: to fight. So read the rationale, read the detail behind

1634
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: it because it's materially important because Joe Parker, you could

1635
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: argue and I do, deserves a shot at the biggest

1636
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: prize in boxing. So we'll see how that unfolds. But

1637
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: well worth reading if you want to news. In a

1638
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: couple of moments in the Mighty Murray olds out of

1639
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: Australia Force, the only.

1640
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: Report you need to start your day, So Mike casting

1641
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life Your.

1642
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: Way a great video by Harrison for Staff and was

1643
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: interested to hear for Staffin's view on front wheel drive

1644
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: vehicles the worst thing ever, Love them or hater? Max

1645
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: is a truly remarkable driver.

1646
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 10: Yes he is.

1647
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: YouTube Harris for Staff and Mike. How good's that insight

1648
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: into his brilliance? Five laps to max limit? That's true.

1649
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: There's a very good part of it where where they go,

1650
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: how how long before you're at the max? When you

1651
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: hit a track, he goes five laps maximum And his

1652
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: father taught him that. And when they were go karting

1653
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 2: as kids, they used to practice. So that started polled,

1654
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: and that start at fifth and it would be two

1655
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: lap races. They'd say, you've got two laps. What are

1656
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: you going to do to get from third to first?

1657
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 2: What are you going to do from fifth to third?

1658
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: How are you going to do that? So it's a

1659
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: fascinating insight. So if you missed the story before, Chris

1660
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: Harris and Max with Staff and you'll find it on YouTube.

1661
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:49,919
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from nine.

1662
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Speaker 16: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

1663
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 16: for New Zealand Business, The.

1664
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Speaker 2: Great, the Wonderful, the One and Only is amongst us

1665
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: Murray Olds, how are you.

1666
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 10: Well?

1667
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 11: Very good morning, Mike. Yeah, nice to speak to you, buddy,

1668
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 11: has things good?

1669
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: Very good? Indeed? How was Itylia?

1670
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 11: Oh?

1671
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 10: My brother? Fantastic hot As Texas.

1672
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 11: It was like forty degrees day after day and night

1673
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 11: time didn't get much below twenty seven twenty eight. But gee,

1674
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 11: it's beautiful, very very busy this time of year. Of course,

1675
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 11: normally you try to go in neither spring or autumn,

1676
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 11: but we had to go to a wedding, so it

1677
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,440
Speaker 11: was it was beautiful.

1678
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 2: Beautiful Polier you into or am I making that up?

1679
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 10: That's right?

1680
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 7: No?

1681
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 10: Pool?

1682
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 11: You down to Martina Franket, Yes, yes, yes, you know

1683
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 11: all over that Gallipoli is there. You've got Galatina, You've

1684
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 11: got albert Abello with the truly's beautiful.

1685
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: Did you travel or did you just go and stay?

1686
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 10: No?

1687
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 11: No, I've just hopped on trains whizzing across the countryside,

1688
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 11: doing three hundred k's an hour pre booking Airbnbs easy peasy.

1689
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 10: Good on you.

1690
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: And did did the Australian paeso serve you well? Or

1691
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: did you feel the palm?

1692
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 11: The South Pacific paso does not stack up against them

1693
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 11: at the euro.

1694
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 10: The euro you get crunched, you get crushed.

1695
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: It is hard work. I mean buying all those specially

1696
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: handcrafted loafers that you always buy when you're in Italy.

1697
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean they must be hurting you by now, that's.

1698
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 10: Right, my model Ferrari exactly, go three.

1699
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: What are you getting today? Is A fifteen? Is it twenty?

1700
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1701
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 10: I don't know, and I don't think the government knows.

1702
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 11: And honestly, if you listen to some of Donald Trump's

1703
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 11: talk this week, he doesn't know either.

1704
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 10: Fifteen twenty I might be nice. What does that mean?

1705
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 11: How can countries around the world possibly organize budgets? And

1706
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 11: it's just ridiculous how he's blown up the whole world

1707
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 11: trading organization.

1708
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 10: So we're waiting this afternoon. Apparently no one's going to

1709
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 10: be exempted.

1710
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 11: I mean, India is a member of the quad right,

1711
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 11: and Trump's belting then with some ridiculous tariff because they're

1712
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 11: buying Russian oil.

1713
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 10: That's right, So goodness knows what Australia is going to do.

1714
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 11: I mean, the opposition over here, at the tiny little

1715
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 11: rump that's left, is howling.

1716
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 10: You've got to go to Washington and seat Trump. What's

1717
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 10: that going to do?

1718
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 11: What he's going to do if he walks into the

1719
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 11: overal office is get addressing down like the South African

1720
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 11: president got, like the Ukrainian president got. Won't achieve anything easy,

1721
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 11: says mate, We'll be doing it our way, thanks very much.

1722
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 10: You can pipe down over the other side of the house.

1723
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Speaker 10: So who knows, Mike.

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Speaker 11: This afternoon apparently two o'clock is the deadline Australian time

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01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 11: for Donald Trump for whatever day it is in Washington.

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Speaker 10: Then, so we'll have to wait and see.

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 2: Well, we're getting ours by four o'clock this afternoon, so

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01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 2: it'll be two o'clock your time by it's midnight tonight

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: American time. Having seen all of that, I read an

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 2: article yesterday that said Trump has nominated ambassadors to fifty countries.

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01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: Australia is not one of them. Between that and Elbow

1732
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: not getting a meeting, there's something about Australia that's not right,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? In the Trump White House, it doesn't feel right.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't feel right.

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Speaker 11: No, I mean, there's no more steadfast ally in this

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 11: part of the world, for Washington than Canberra. I mean

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01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 11: that's just been a fact of life for well forever,

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01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 11: and for Trump just to ignore that, to treat Australia

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01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 11: with well, disrespect, I mean, whatever word you want. I mean,

1740
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 11: but Trump is not all, is not operating to the normal,

1741
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 11: whatever normal looks like. There's no normal in the Trump administration.

1742
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 11: So Australia has been there with the US all the way.

1743
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 11: We've had the commitment to buy these ridiculous you know,

1744
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 11: billions of dollars of the submarines will never get Australia

1745
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 11: is home to a bunch of American operations. You've got

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01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 11: the submarine base and Perth, You've got the exercises every

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01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 11: year and Daring and it goes on and on and on,

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01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 11: and Australia is eight. America has a big Australia's got

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01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 11: a big trade surplus with America people.

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Speaker 10: America's winning in that fright. But what the hell's Trump

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01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 10: on about?

1752
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more this elbow thing. I know, it

1753
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 2: was a big promise and it was his first law

1754
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: passed as a new government. I get all of that,

1755
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 2: but wiping debt off very baden esk apart from anything else.

1756
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: But a lot of people have reacted this morning by

1757
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: asking me the question, and it's a fair one. What

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01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: if you're a student and you got out into the

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01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 2: world and you paid your debt down, then three years

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: later rocks up and goes ay, you a wipe your dead?

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01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: You know, I mean there's an unfairness to that, Isn't that?

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 10: Well? I guess there is.

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01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 11: You can put that argument. But equally, you know, I

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01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 11: mean it was an election commitment. Don't forget the overwhelming

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01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 11: number of young Australian's voted labor.

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01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 10: He's honoring that election promise.

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Speaker 11: And it's not just for you know, for chemistry graduates

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 11: and for law graduates and doctors. It's also for the

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 11: TAFE equivalent, the trades you know, plumbers and sparkys and whatnot.

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Speaker 11: They're also getting twenty percent wiped off their student dead.

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Speaker 10: I suppose they have to have to start somewhere. And

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Speaker 10: this is the point.

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Speaker 11: I mean, students who are starting their studies next year.

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01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 11: I mean, they won't get it either. So I guess

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01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 11: it's just it's an election promise that's now been honored

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01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 11: and they can tick that off and move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. He promised it. So I suppose that's

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01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: what we want now This business of the social media band.

1779
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: The YouTube thing interests me because I think he's in

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01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: trouble on the YouTube because that is not social media.

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: You don't go on YouTube to you know, break peace

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01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: people and yell at people and you know, stalk people.

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: You go on there to watch videos. And so I

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01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: think he's got problems there. And that's before you get

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Speaker 2: to the overarching question, which I would have thought, is

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01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: it real, can it work? Is it actually going to

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Speaker 2: be a thing that's effective?

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Speaker 10: How the hell's it going to be? Police? For goodness sake,

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Speaker 10: I mean, that's the point. Let's just go back.

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Speaker 11: We've got Facebook, We've got Instagram, TikTok, snapchat, x Reddit.

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Speaker 11: Even as you say YouTube or YouTube kids, I think it's.

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Speaker 10: Called is going to be extent.

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01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 11: These are all social media platforms that will be banned

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Speaker 11: for Australian children under the age of sixteen.

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01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 10: But they've been trialing.

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01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 11: We're in my notes here a voice a bigger pardon

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Speaker 11: face recognition technology. Here's the stat The thing could only

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01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 11: guess the children's ages two within eighteen months in eighty

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 11: five percent of cases. And so I mean there's old

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Speaker 11: TikTok whatever his name is. This week I mean, he's

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Speaker 11: facing fines of tens of millions of dollars if they

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01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 11: don't police it properly.

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Speaker 10: But it just seems us about, doesn't it. It's just

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Speaker 10: it's kind.

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Speaker 2: Of our we're falling allowing you. So we've made the

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01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: same sort of announcement. We're going we'd like to do

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01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: that too. But let's have a look at Australia and

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01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: the reality is, and I think most people would agree

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01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: with the idea that social media is a problem. We

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01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: need to do something about it. If we could, fantastic

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01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 2: but technologically we can't. So therefore, pass all the laws

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Speaker 2: you want. But if they're not enforceable, what's the point.

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01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 10: What's the point? Indeed?

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, a bunch of age checking technology is

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Speaker 11: being trialed.

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Speaker 10: The one I mentioned is just the most obvious one.

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01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 10: It just doesn't get it right, you know, inn eighty

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Speaker 10: five percent of the cases. So where we go from

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 10: here I don't know.

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Speaker 11: But as I say, fifty million dollars of the fines

1821
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 11: up for grabs, I mean families, mums and dads and

1822
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 11: the kids won't be fine, but the providers of these

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01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 11: things will be up to fifty million dollars I'll tell.

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Speaker 2: You what they're going to do.

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Speaker 10: Mate.

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: Moment Zuckerberg hets a bill for fifty million dollars. You

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01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: know what he's doing is reaching down to the court

1828
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: to pull it out of the wall and turn you off.

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01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 2: Isn't he exactly right in the end of that for

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: year low that inflation? Did you get a sense inflations?

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01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: You know that that debate's over now and we can

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01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: you know, we're still sort of worried about the cost

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Speaker 2: of living and prices.

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Speaker 11: Well, if you listen to the Reserve Bank, you will

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01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 11: never get that conversation out of Martin Place here in

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01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 11: Sydney where the headquarters of the Reserve Bank is. But inflation,

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01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 11: the fact of the matter is it is it a

1838
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 11: four year low? Inflation now hasn't been as low since

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01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 11: twenty twenty one. The headline rate two point one percent,

1840
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 11: but the underlying rate, that's the one the banks look

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 11: at two point seven percent. They strip out all the

1842
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 11: volatile stuff like fuel and whatnot. It's right there in

1843
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 11: that Reserve Bank sweet spot. They want inflation between two

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01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 11: and three percent. The government, of course crowing about this,

1845
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 11: it's a stunning results in the treasurer. But of course,

1846
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 11: what this done has done macers heightened speculation about as

1847
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 11: early as this month, maybe next week, we're going to

1848
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 11: get another cut in interest rates, and then perhaps another

1849
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 11: one before Christmas. So I mean, the psychological impact of

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01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 11: that cannot be under overstated. The country's been really groaning.

1851
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 11: People out there in mortgage land have been really really struggling,

1852
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 11: no doubt about that. So any relief will be very

1853
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 11: very welcome. And who's going to get all the credit.

1854
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 11: It'll be the labor government.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, Go well, we'll see you next week.

1856
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it as always, Murray Olds and also reading this morning,

1857
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: the median price in the House of Sydney cracked one

1858
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: point as of yesterday cracked one point five million dollars fourteen.

1859
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Speaker 1: Tonight The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1860
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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 10: At be No Morning.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I listened to you for years and respect to

1863
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Speaker 2: your opinion about kids going into trades, and my eldest

1864
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: two have been through UNI. My youngest is currently a

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01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: pre trade course, hoping to get an apprenticeship as an

1866
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 2: electrician next year. The problem is there are no apprenticeships

1867
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: going Heaps of kids do these pre trade courses but

1868
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: can't get into the apprenticeship. It's a very good point

1869
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: you make, and it's one of the it's one of

1870
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: the it's nothing new. It's been ongoing for years. So

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01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 2: when the trades are booming, you can't find an apprentice.

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01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: When the trades aren't booming, they don't want to take

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Speaker 2: an apprentice on. And so it goes. And that's why

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01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: governments over the years have come up with various policies

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: as to you know, part pay them and if you

1876
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Speaker 2: take apprentice on, I'll give you ten thousand dollars and

1877
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: so so, you know, but they've never seen really to

1878
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: have cracked it. The other one I read this week

1879
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Speaker 2: and I can't get my head around, is that older

1880
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 2: people are struggling to find and keep work, And I thought,

1881
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: how on earth is this possible in a country we're talented. See,

1882
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 2: there's two things going on in the employment market as

1883
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: far as I can work out, and I speak from

1884
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: some experience having First of all, we all know and

1885
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 2: employments too high five point whatever a percent it is.

1886
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's peaked at five point three, maybe it we'll

1887
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: see how we go. But the other side of the

1888
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 2: equation is you still can't get good people, so it's

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Speaker 2: sort of it's working against itself. Since twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: unemployment rate for those aged over forty five has increased

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Speaker 2: steadily fifty five to sixty four, historically lower unemployment rate

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01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: than those aged forty five to fifty four, but this

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01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: has changed over the last couple of years. Unemployment among

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01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: over sixty fives has now risen to above two percent

1895
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: for the first time since September nineteen ninety three. So

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Speaker 2: there are people out there looking for work and that

1897
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: they can't find it, can't get it. And yet there

1898
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: these are generally good people, with good experience, good skills,

1899
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: all of those sort of things, and I just can't

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Speaker 2: something doesn't add up as far as I'm concerned. Muhammad

1901
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: once again is the most popular boy's name in Britain,

1902
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: announced this morning. Now, the interesting thing about Muhammad being

1903
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 2: number one is Muhammed has spelt three different ways. That's

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01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: m U or m o h A m m E

1905
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Speaker 2: D or m o h A m m A D.

1906
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: So you've got three Muhammad's. Mu comes in first, Ed

1907
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: comes in twenty first, and Ad comes in fifty third.

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01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of Mohammads in Britain. And then

1909
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 2: that is the debate, of course, as far as women,

1910
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: Olivia Amelia, Lily Eiler IV, Florence Freyer, Poppy, Ava, Elisa.

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Speaker 17: An A.

1912
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Speaker 2: Don't you that seems to be second For the boys. Noah, Oliver, Arthur, Leo, George, Luca,

1913
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: Theodore Oscarachi. Are those names that little hornet know? Michael

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Speaker 2: is no Michael good as a kid. I mean Lily

1915
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 2: good as a kid, not as an adult, isn't it.

1916
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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, Poppy for Lily Ellen. That's true good

1917
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Poppy good as a kid, not as an adult. Olivia

1918
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: great name is a kid, great name as an adult.

1919
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: You got to think those things through, and most of us,

1920
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: of course don't because we're too excited to have the kid,

1921
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: and so we just name them whatever. The hot name

1922
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 2: of the day is eight minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The mate Hosking Breakfast with the Landrover, Discovery News tokstad be.

1924
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: Do we need to compliment you to get our text

1925
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: through it out? I think you're amazing. See, wasn't that hard?

1926
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 10: Was it?

1927
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: Met out? My favorite company, favorite company in the world,

1928
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: Meta Reality Labs. Their Reality Labs are the chain the

1929
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: ball and anchor in the wider company. The second quarter loss.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, they had three hundred and seventy million dollars

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Speaker 2: worth of sales.

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Speaker 6: Is that good?

1933
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Speaker 2: Well, not when you're losing four point five three billion

1934
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: for the quarter. So yeah, to get this is the glasses,

1935
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: the smart glasses that I keep telling them every year,

1936
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: every quarter, I tell them it's going nowhere. Give it up.

1937
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: Stop trying. You're losing too much money. I mean, how

1938
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: many quarters are they lost money? Every quart? Is it billions?

1939
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Every courting? Yes, it is this particular courts four point

1940
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: five three billion. How many billions do you need to

1941
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: lose before you work out you're on the wrong track?

1942
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Five minutes away from.

1943
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Speaker 1: Nine trending now with chemist warehouse, great savings every day.

1944
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Speaker 2: He was from the White House this morning. I don't

1945
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: know if you know it, but they've paved over some

1946
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: of the rose garden. He wanted a Marri Lago style patio,

1947
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: so they've done that. All the gold in the Oval office.

1948
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: You'll have seen all the gold in the Oval office.

1949
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's to a certain taste, of course, so

1950
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 2: you can have your own opinion on that. Now he

1951
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: wants a two hundred million dollar ballroom.

1952
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 13: So we we've been planning it for a long time.

1953
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 13: They've wanted a barroom at the White House for.

1954
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 15: More than one hundred and fifty years, but there's.

1955
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 13: Never been a president that was good at really good.

1956
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Speaker 13: In fact, I looked at one that we just built

1957
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 13: in Turnbury in Scotland and it's incredible. We're good at building.

1958
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 13: I'm good at building things, and we'll get it built

1959
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 13: quickly and on time. It'll be beautiful, top top of

1960
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 13: the line. It'll be built over on the east side

1961
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 13: and it will be beautiful. It'll be views of the

1962
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 13: Washington Monument. It wanted interfere with the current building.

1963
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Speaker 10: I won't be.

1964
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 15: It'll be.

1965
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 13: Near it, but not touching it, and peace total respect

1966
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 13: to the existing building, which I'm the biggest fan of.

1967
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 2: It's my favorite. It's my favorite place.

1968
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 10: I love it.

1969
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: I haven't had a major reno since Truman was there

1970
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: in fifty two. And to be fair, I've been lucky

1971
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 2: enough to be in the White House. And when you

1972
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: go to the White House, if you ever lucky enough

1973
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: to go to the White House, the first thing you

1974
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: think is Jesus is small. It's one of those one

1975
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: of those places you think is this it? And so

1976
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: I never I didn't go to the next part and

1977
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: go one of where the ballroomers, but I did think

1978
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: this is small. Anyway, the two hundred million dollars is

1979
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: donors and Trump are going to pay for it. So

1980
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: the taxpayers are going to be let off that particularly

1981
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: if one this weekend. You got the Dolphins tonight, you

1982
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: got the Warriors tonight, so that's exciting to get another salut.

1983
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 2: You've got the f one over the week. It's all good,

1984
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: plenty to do, lots of fun, life's good and all

1985
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: that stuff. Go well, We'll see you Monday. Happy Days.

1986
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1987
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1988
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