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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders. You're listening to matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons podcast from Unday, the twenty seventh of July

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Great show today. Half the country's on

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Speaker 2: holiday with Auckland Anniversary Day and Northland Anniversary Day, so

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Speaker 2: we went for some pretty fun topics just to get

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Speaker 2: people going. We got stuck into fecal terrorists. We did

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Speaker 2: a bit of concert chat and as New Zealand being

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Speaker 2: Nay says and I always say this because we're about to

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Speaker 2: explain it in a second. But had a good time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely great show for a Monday when half the

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Speaker 3: country's off.

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Speaker 2: Yees, so look set to download and follow and such

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Speaker 2: and share and give them a taste to keep from me.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with.

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Speaker 4: The Volvo XC ninety on News Talk SEDB.

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Speaker 3: Gooday to you, Welcome into the show Monday. Hope you're

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Speaker 3: living it up wherever you're listening in the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're working south of Topol. Wherever you are,

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Speaker 2: then thanks for tuning in. If you're on holiday like

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Speaker 2: everyone is around we are and up north and a

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Speaker 2: lot of them North Island, then thanks for listening as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, it was quite on the motorway which was

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Speaker 3: nice actually straight run into the city.

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Speaker 2: Few people driving back today, they might be listening in

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Speaker 2: their cars. It'll be interested in their topic after two

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Speaker 2: around toilets.

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Speaker 3: Yet they certainly will be on to what will be

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Speaker 3: a great show as always three o'clock. Now, you had

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Speaker 3: a great weekend down in Topoor, lovely part of the

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Speaker 3: country for what was a very successful concert series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Long to see ever clear. But Growner

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Speaker 2: and Ice House and Cold Chisel at the summer series.

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Speaker 2: Fantastically run event actually by Greenstone. They put on a

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Speaker 2: great show, very easy to get in, very easy to

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Speaker 2: get drinks and it was a party time.

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Speaker 3: Yep. But you did upset one particular individual.

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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, Okay, we're going to be talking about this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I don't know if I upset them really,

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Speaker 2: but I just want to talk about it really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if I did upset them, I don't care, But I

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Speaker 2: just really want to talk about the rules of going

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Speaker 2: sit down at a concert and tell other people to

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Speaker 2: sit down just because you don't want to stand up.

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Speaker 2: I believe the rule is, and this is an unwritten rule,

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Speaker 2: will be well refreshed by then, they'll be hydrated, and

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Speaker 2: they'll be ready to go. And I don't think you're

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Speaker 2: But are there rules? I don't know if there are rules,

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Speaker 2: But it's the same when there's a tribing scored, because

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Speaker 2: I've been at All Blacks games before, when I've jumped

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Speaker 2: if you don't, you don't have to. But if you don't,

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Speaker 2: you can't expect other people to sit on their seat.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to slam key audiences, but we tend

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Speaker 3: Yeah good, But that's going to be a great discussion

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock concert etiquette and standing up to have

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Speaker 3: reversed that when it comes to using their toilets, that

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Speaker 2: I mean I would never expect to be able to

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Speaker 2: because as a person that used to have to clean

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Speaker 2: toilets in an establishment that was open to the public,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of people, there's a lot of good

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Speaker 3: I don't feel rude by jumping in there when I've

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Speaker 3: But we're going to open that discussion up after two

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Speaker 2: I think we definitely do. I think there's people in

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Speaker 2: culture of saying no. It's all as easy for someone

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Speaker 2: New Zealand used to be the place of saying yes

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Speaker 2: it's become a nasaying culture. How do you fight a

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Speaker 2: shame is a good technique. I think shame has worked

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Speaker 2: what are you scared of? That kind of approach if

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Speaker 2: that annoys me. You come up with an idea and

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Speaker 2: People who don't have ideas stop other people's ideas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sometimes does feel like we're stuck in a

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Speaker 3: ertia and just you know, in daily life it does

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Speaker 3: things a little bit differently. But you're right, there's always

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Speaker 3: something to say, nah, na, nah, it's always been done.

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Speaker 2: At the end of last year, say, I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: year they're not. Those people should be shamed, that there

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Speaker 2: should be a social cost for being a nasay, you

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Speaker 2: should be you should experience kickback. That's my's that's the

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Speaker 3: I think we've got a big thing about public submissions

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Speaker 3: You think there is too much public submission going on

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Speaker 2: Well, like as Helen Clark said around the Eden Park

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Speaker 2: She said the Prime minister's comments is consistent with his

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Speaker 2: government's reject of sound planning law, policy and practice, as

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Speaker 2: evidence in the Fast Track legislation. Sound planning enables a

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Speaker 2: wide range of voices on planning applications to be heard,

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Speaker 2: including those voicing environmental and community concerns, rather than enabling

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Speaker 2: those in authority predetermining outcomes through one sided processes. That

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Speaker 2: sounds the sound bite that that sounds like wheels grinding

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Speaker 2: to a Holtwark. That's how things don't happen the idea

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Speaker 2: that you celebrate that as a prost to celebrating the

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Speaker 2: country a better place.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If we can all

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Speaker 3: agree we are a bit of a country of naysayers.

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Speaker 3: What the heck do we do with it? And in

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Speaker 3: your own personal life or business for that matter, what

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Speaker 3: do you do with those people who continuously say, Nah,

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Speaker 3: we can't do it. Love to hear from you. Nine

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Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text number as well. It

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Speaker 3: is a quarter past one. Great to have you company.

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Speaker 3: As always, you're listening to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Be a very good afternoon to you. Welcome in to Mondane.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about naysayers and new Zelen on the back

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Speaker 3: of something the Prime Minister said.

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Speaker 6: Too often when it comes to economic growth, we have

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Speaker 6: slipped into a culture of saying no, and it's always

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Speaker 6: easy to force someone to find a reason to get

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Speaker 6: to shift our mindset and embrace growth. There's always a

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Speaker 6: reason to say no. But if we keep saying no,

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you we'll keep going Nowhere, there.

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Speaker 2: We go back back, I'm back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, there's a lot of discreshing

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Speaker 2: in the background of that Prime Minister's speech, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, to focus a little bit. Was that a restaurant?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when they didn't say no to service? Well there,

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Speaker 2: Although I've got to say the Prime Minister did say

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Speaker 3: He said it politely.

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Speaker 2: There was a bunch of stuff on. Yeah, he had

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Speaker 2: there's no way he can say no, because you just

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Speaker 3: A little bit of irony there, Prime Minister. If you're

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Speaker 3: listening some great tents coming through though, Matt, you're a

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent right. We say no all the time,

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Speaker 3: you should buy something. Ah, this is for a topic

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Speaker 3: a little bit later on Sarah.

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Speaker 2: This is too. This is two coming together, these topics.

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Speaker 3: The hybrid topics. So one, you're one hundred percent right

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Speaker 3: on the naysayers. Yeah, And then Sarah wants to have

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Speaker 3: you have to buy something, so double where me there?

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Speaker 2: Okay, we one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

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Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: about what we do about all the naysayers in this country.

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Speaker 3: David, how are you.

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Speaker 8: This afternon yees go, Welcome back and happy twenty five.

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Speaker 9: To you those yeah too, and to you.

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Speaker 8: You're working on the public holiday and that's a part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we certainly are. And look the office is empty

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Speaker 2: and we're feeling quite virtuous about it. Actually, yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: We feel like backbones of New Zealand at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But I've got to say I'm gott to tell you, David,

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Speaker 2: you know, but we'll try and rack it, rack it

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Speaker 8: No, look, you're doing very well. It's good to hear

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Speaker 8: it's a bit subjective, but yes, I feel that very strong.

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Speaker 8: The country has lost its backbone and saying no to

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Speaker 8: things is a lot easier than saying yes. And just

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Speaker 8: can do. I've been had to seize you know, previous years.

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Speaker 8: And either you say yet we can fix it. No,

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Speaker 8: wishy washy business. And look, I think Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a Tiger Wian if you if you'd.

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Speaker 3: And on top of the South, but you know, let's

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Speaker 8: Okay up, I went to school, no years were there,

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Speaker 8: I look down at what was it, lady Great Swamp,

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Speaker 2: That's good and that.

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Speaker 8: And that's how we got That's what JFK eventually picked

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Speaker 2: And also got another great another great from that family.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not quite sure about our mate Donald who

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I heard that. But also interestingly, he is about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've got to say that, I mean, David

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Speaker 3: Oh and to you as well, Man Elon Musk. Whatever

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Speaker 8: There been some comments on your great station the last

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Speaker 8: And you did not make a Nazi salute for God's

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Speaker 8: That was ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That was ridiculous. I mean, just people just need to

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Speaker 2: clearly isn't. You don't have an argument if you're saying

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Speaker 2: immediately when it comes to that. When I was growing

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Speaker 2: It's the tiniest house. It had six people living it cheap.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've lost that.

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Speaker 8: We've lost the the gonheads of speel approach. If you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, question, Yeah, we've said David, thanks you call David

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I mean just going

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Speaker 3: That is ballsy. There was no wingy back then. There

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Speaker 3: was no sorry, we can't do this. They had no

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Speaker 3: their philosophy. Ninety two is the text number. It is

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Speaker 3: twenty five past one.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 10: In a country where we already build too many houses

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Speaker 10: land is criminal and stupid. What this country does is

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Speaker 10: feed the world. But here is where the old freedom

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Speaker 10: You are now potentially limited by a government that has

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Speaker 10: always a fairly tricky area.

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Speaker 2: Monday, we will work out trees.

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Speaker 10: Aren't the answer to climate change, and by the time

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Speaker 10: So in that sense, this decision basically saves us from ourselves.

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Speaker 10: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 10: Bailey's Realers, Date News Talks, There be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon twenty eight past one. Have we lost our

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Speaker 3: Luxon thinks we have and we say no far too often.

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Speaker 3: Mckend to hear what you say. Oh eight one hundred

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys are interesting in conversation here we have I

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Speaker 11: the and so I'm following from your partners conversation. But

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Speaker 11: you know, we will want that. It's great, but no,

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Speaker 2: A nation ron, how do you reckon? You get round

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Speaker 2: like to exert power against people that have ideas and

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Speaker 2: a dreaming of better things. How do you navigate those

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Speaker 11: Well, you need you need the government to come through

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Speaker 11: look look at Cromwell now look it's as fine, you know,

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Speaker 11: but I mean we've got electricity being generated from the Clyde,

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Speaker 11: the Clyde River. You know, we didn't know everything would

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Speaker 3: On the political front round, do you think m MP

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I was, Yeah, no I'm not sure about that.

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Speaker 11: There well, yes there is, there is, Yeah, there is.

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Speaker 11: When you know, I watched the Parliament on TV and

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Speaker 11: after these and you've got these little miner parties, you know,

430
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Speaker 11: trying to dictate for the whole country. Like you know,

431
00:21:13,213 --> 00:21:14,773
Speaker 11: we've got to think that they're great and good to you,

432
00:21:14,933 --> 00:21:17,733
Speaker 11: like we can't just you know, I see something about

433
00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,653
Speaker 11: sea bed mining or something, you know, you know it

434
00:21:20,693 --> 00:21:25,093
Speaker 11: was full kilometers off the coast, Like not even goes

435
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Speaker 11: fishing that far. I do, I'm italio. I mean, you

436
00:21:29,213 --> 00:21:31,173
Speaker 11: know they weren't about sucking with a sand. Now the

437
00:21:31,213 --> 00:21:34,213
Speaker 11: Asian it's five kilometers off the coast, so that oh,

438
00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:37,333
Speaker 11: you know, big demonstration is going to pick down beach

439
00:21:38,013 --> 00:21:40,053
Speaker 11: four kilometers off the coas is not going to pick

440
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Speaker 11: your buddy beach.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

442
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Speaker 2: I think, like, you know, you're talking about MP Tyler,

443
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Speaker 2: But I think if you're going to change a country,

444
00:21:47,693 --> 00:21:50,453
Speaker 2: it has to be in your interactions. Because we don't

445
00:21:50,493 --> 00:21:52,653
Speaker 2: have that most people on day to day boasters don't

446
00:21:52,933 --> 00:21:55,413
Speaker 2: have that kind of level of power operating those circles.

447
00:21:55,413 --> 00:21:58,493
Speaker 2: But we do sit around tables and we do talk

448
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Speaker 2: to people, and a lot of us in small businesses

449
00:22:00,693 --> 00:22:03,613
Speaker 2: or wherever our workplaces and deal with people that say no.

450
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Speaker 2: So I believe it has to start with your even

451
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Speaker 2: within your family, people saying.

452
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Speaker 11: We can't do that for the greater good. The greater

453
00:22:11,653 --> 00:22:13,893
Speaker 11: good of the country's got to count first, surely.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

455
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

456
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, like if everyone starts dealing, and because

457
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Speaker 2: I believe you can shame naysays, I believe that you

458
00:22:21,693 --> 00:22:25,613
Speaker 2: can call them chickens. You go, you can go. You

459
00:22:25,653 --> 00:22:28,253
Speaker 2: know that that worked for a long time. You're scared, Yeah,

460
00:22:28,293 --> 00:22:28,733
Speaker 2: you're scared.

461
00:22:29,013 --> 00:22:30,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're on the playground something awesome.

462
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Speaker 2: But I'm not even really I'm not even really joking

463
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Speaker 2: with that. I think that that people feel virtuous because

464
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Speaker 2: they shut things down, and I think we need to

465
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Speaker 2: celebrate people that open things up and dream big and

466
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Speaker 2: try things and fail and succeed. You know, at least

467
00:22:46,973 --> 00:22:48,572
Speaker 2: go on flight to fancy and see if you can

468
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Speaker 2: do it.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ron, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

470
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Speaker 3: All right, have a good afternoon. O eight hundred and

471
00:22:54,933 --> 00:22:57,853
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Do we

472
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Speaker 3: need to start shaming the naysayers and just quickly Matt

473
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Speaker 3: the other one. And I mean you'd call them rogues

474
00:23:04,733 --> 00:23:07,373
Speaker 3: or mavericks. These are people that just go and do something,

475
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Speaker 3: whether they get from mission or not. And I think

476
00:23:10,173 --> 00:23:12,413
Speaker 3: is as New Zealanders, we like those people if they

477
00:23:12,453 --> 00:23:14,572
Speaker 3: just go and do something because they think it's the

478
00:23:14,653 --> 00:23:17,453
Speaker 3: right thing to do, and then they get a lot

479
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Speaker 3: of grief for it. I kind of like the philosophy

480
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Speaker 3: just do and ask for forgiveness down the track.

481
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's and we're not talking about

482
00:23:24,533 --> 00:23:27,173
Speaker 2: your Bernie Madoffs. You know, you know, these are people

483
00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:31,693
Speaker 2: that have honest adventures, honest ventures that are where they

484
00:23:31,733 --> 00:23:34,933
Speaker 2: want to, where they want to create and build businesses

485
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Speaker 2: and and things, you know, for the you know, for

486
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Speaker 2: the good of themselves and for the good of the country,

487
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Speaker 2: because those two things can go hand in hand.

488
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Speaker 3: Yep oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

489
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Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts on this one.

490
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Speaker 3: It is twenty six to two. Back in a.

491
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Speaker 13: Moment you talks that'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis

492
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Speaker 13: that's no trouble with a blue bubble. Tourists on a

493
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:03,933
Speaker 13: visitor visa can work remotely within New Zealand for an

494
00:24:03,973 --> 00:24:08,893
Speaker 13: overseas employer while holidaying here. Economic Growth Minister Killer Widdow

495
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Speaker 13: says it's part of the plan to speed economic growth.

496
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Speaker 13: A political science professor submitting on Axe Treaty Principles bill

497
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Speaker 13: says it positions equal rights very narrowly and pole show

498
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Speaker 13: the bill is doing harm with increasing social discontent among

499
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Speaker 13: a five woman's families say she is recovering well in

500
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Speaker 13: hospital with more surgery to come. After being picked up

501
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Speaker 13: out of her house by a tornado that injured two people.

502
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Speaker 13: About fifty buildings were damaged and pars still out to

503
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Speaker 13: about one hundred and fifty homes.

504
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Speaker 14: Contractors are back working on fixing a pipe supplying water

505
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Speaker 14: to Central Otago's Naseby which broke on Saturday. The District

506
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Speaker 14: Council water will be reaching the treatment plant tomorrow morning,

507
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Speaker 14: but Warne's initial supplies may be dirty. The Salvation Army

508
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Speaker 14: is welcoming its first female territorial commander, Jinine Donaldson. She'll

509
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Speaker 14: lead the New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga and Samour Division mi

510
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Speaker 14: I five's first female director. On Royals, politicians and Chinese

511
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Speaker 14: spies find out more at ends in here well Premium.

512
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Speaker 14: Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We're talking about are we

514
00:25:19,693 --> 00:25:22,733
Speaker 3: a country of naysayers? On the back of what Prime

515
00:25:22,773 --> 00:25:24,813
Speaker 3: Minister Christopher Luxeen had to say.

516
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Speaker 6: Too often when it comes to economic growth, we've slipped

517
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Speaker 6: into a culture of saying no. And it's always easy

518
00:25:32,253 --> 00:25:35,293
Speaker 6: to force someone to find own reason to get in

519
00:25:35,333 --> 00:25:38,453
Speaker 6: the way and find a problem. But we need to

520
00:25:38,573 --> 00:25:42,893
Speaker 6: shift our mindset and embrace growth. There's always a reason

521
00:25:42,973 --> 00:25:46,333
Speaker 6: to say no. But if we keep saying no, I'm

522
00:25:46,373 --> 00:25:48,453
Speaker 6: telling you we'll keep going nowhere.

523
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Speaker 3: It's a good line, good line. Is it true?

524
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Speaker 9: Though?

525
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Speaker 3: Are we a bunch of naysayers?

526
00:25:52,693 --> 00:25:54,453
Speaker 2: Yeah? And how do you deal with the naysayer if

527
00:25:54,493 --> 00:25:56,813
Speaker 2: we are? Because you can say something like that and

528
00:25:57,413 --> 00:26:00,292
Speaker 2: good on them, But how do you deal with it?

529
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Speaker 2: Because if we do have a culture of saying no,

530
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Speaker 2: and I think you need to deal with it one

531
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Speaker 2: on one every time it comes up. You know, because

532
00:26:08,093 --> 00:26:11,253
Speaker 2: you can point to councils, you can put the government point,

533
00:26:11,253 --> 00:26:13,052
Speaker 2: but you know, what about people that you're working with

534
00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:15,653
Speaker 2: on a day to day that I had this situation

535
00:26:15,693 --> 00:26:19,052
Speaker 2: where I came up with this fantastic idea that I

536
00:26:19,133 --> 00:26:22,133
Speaker 2: text to the boss of a company yep, and he

537
00:26:22,133 --> 00:26:24,493
Speaker 2: said this was great, and he seed me in with

538
00:26:24,613 --> 00:26:27,093
Speaker 2: other people in his company. Great response, and then he

539
00:26:27,173 --> 00:26:30,213
Speaker 2: got like then an email that came back was about

540
00:26:30,293 --> 00:26:34,213
Speaker 2: three pages of why this wouldn't work. And then he

541
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Speaker 2: then the response from him to all was just Jesus Christ.

542
00:26:39,133 --> 00:26:41,853
Speaker 2: And I wasn't sure what he meant by Jesus Christ

543
00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:44,653
Speaker 2: dot dot dot dot, whether it was Jesus Christ. We

544
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Speaker 2: can't do it because all those reasons or Jesus Christ.

545
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of reasons not to do quite a

546
00:26:47,973 --> 00:26:48,373
Speaker 2: simple thing.

547
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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you ever find out?

548
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Speaker 2: I haven't. Actually I look for to talking to this

549
00:26:52,813 --> 00:26:55,813
Speaker 2: guy again next time I do. But I read it that,

550
00:26:56,013 --> 00:26:57,493
Speaker 2: oh my god, let's just do it.

551
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Speaker 3: Three pages of yeah, reasons why you can't do something.

552
00:27:00,373 --> 00:27:02,373
Speaker 3: If if he's the boss of a company, you'd think

553
00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:05,373
Speaker 3: he's saying, Man, that's a lot of reasons of just

554
00:27:05,413 --> 00:27:06,413
Speaker 3: saying no, let's do it.

555
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Speaker 2: And it was a great idea of mine. But I'm

556
00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:09,853
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to push this through, so I'm not

557
00:27:09,853 --> 00:27:11,133
Speaker 2: going to say what it is. It's going to happen.

558
00:27:11,333 --> 00:27:13,013
Speaker 2: It's going to happen, this idea of mine.

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00:27:13,053 --> 00:27:15,293
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great tease. One hundred and eighty ten

560
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:16,813
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you want to

561
00:27:16,813 --> 00:27:19,413
Speaker 3: text through. You can nine two ninety two Neil. How

562
00:27:19,453 --> 00:27:20,413
Speaker 3: are you this afternoon?

563
00:27:21,253 --> 00:27:22,213
Speaker 15: Ah, I'm very well, thank you?

564
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Speaker 3: How are you very good? Do you think we are

565
00:27:24,253 --> 00:27:26,813
Speaker 3: a bunch of nassas we say no to pretty much

566
00:27:26,853 --> 00:27:29,573
Speaker 3: everything can progress just gets ground to a halt.

567
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Speaker 16: I just wanted to briefly say that I think one

568
00:27:32,853 --> 00:27:37,973
Speaker 16: of the worst organizations to do this are local body councils.

569
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Speaker 16: But there are lots of stories out there of people

570
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Speaker 16: with good ideas or people want to do developments and

571
00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,693
Speaker 16: a whole different lot of fields go to the council

572
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Speaker 16: to try and talk it through. No, you can't do that. No,

573
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Speaker 16: this is why there are lots of stories out there.

574
00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:57,052
Speaker 16: There are people who've almost written books about it. So

575
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Speaker 16: that's just my opinion.

576
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Speaker 3: No, No, that's and a lot of people would agree

577
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Speaker 3: with that, Neil, do you think that is because local

578
00:28:03,053 --> 00:28:06,213
Speaker 3: body government, by their very nature nature, there's a lot

579
00:28:06,213 --> 00:28:08,533
Speaker 3: of layers there. So if you want to do anything,

580
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:11,532
Speaker 3: you've got to go through a myriad of different people,

581
00:28:12,093 --> 00:28:14,373
Speaker 3: and you're going to come across one of them who's

582
00:28:14,413 --> 00:28:18,373
Speaker 3: just a massive nasance. It can't be done too hard. Sorry,

583
00:28:18,533 --> 00:28:19,013
Speaker 3: try again.

584
00:28:19,973 --> 00:28:22,173
Speaker 16: Yeah, well that may it will be yeah yeah, and

585
00:28:22,213 --> 00:28:25,093
Speaker 16: good glogal bodies. It's more and more difficult to actually

586
00:28:25,093 --> 00:28:28,853
Speaker 16: talk to anybody at all. They're very reluctant, some of them,

587
00:28:28,893 --> 00:28:29,653
Speaker 16: to actually talk.

588
00:28:30,453 --> 00:28:32,693
Speaker 2: It's funny though, because it's what you want to happen,

589
00:28:32,773 --> 00:28:35,053
Speaker 2: or not often what aligns with what you want. So

590
00:28:35,173 --> 00:28:38,733
Speaker 2: for example, there was the meyor Wayne Brown was pushing

591
00:28:38,773 --> 00:28:42,053
Speaker 2: back against the pedestrian crossings that were costing half a

592
00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:45,173
Speaker 2: million dollars. So that's what some that's what someone someone

593
00:28:45,213 --> 00:28:47,133
Speaker 2: really wanted to do that and they pushed it through

594
00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:50,533
Speaker 2: and that was their dream, to spend huge amounts of

595
00:28:50,533 --> 00:28:52,573
Speaker 2: money on pedestrian crossings when you could actually just deal

596
00:28:52,653 --> 00:28:57,613
Speaker 2: with a can of paint. So, yeah, like some things

597
00:28:57,653 --> 00:28:58,613
Speaker 2: do need to be stopped.

598
00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:02,693
Speaker 3: There's a balance, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But

599
00:29:02,853 --> 00:29:05,053
Speaker 3: but I guess, but I guess what I'm kind of

600
00:29:05,053 --> 00:29:07,613
Speaker 3: talking about is whenever I you know, I've been noticing

601
00:29:07,693 --> 00:29:09,053
Speaker 3: this thing, whenever even.

602
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Speaker 2: And I was talking to a friend of mine who's

603
00:29:10,573 --> 00:29:13,373
Speaker 2: Australian's come over here and he's running a company over here,

604
00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:16,053
Speaker 2: running a business over here, and he said, what he

605
00:29:16,093 --> 00:29:18,293
Speaker 2: found in New Zealand is people just lining up you

606
00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,733
Speaker 2: say something, They don't even walk down the path. We're

607
00:29:20,733 --> 00:29:23,253
Speaker 2: not even walked down the path of the fantasy unicorn

608
00:29:24,093 --> 00:29:26,853
Speaker 2: half hour where you just dream of it. It's immediately

609
00:29:26,893 --> 00:29:28,813
Speaker 2: no no no no no no no no no no.

610
00:29:29,573 --> 00:29:32,453
Speaker 2: Rather than let's look at the possibility, let's open our

611
00:29:32,493 --> 00:29:34,453
Speaker 2: heart and look at the possibility of maybe being able

612
00:29:34,493 --> 00:29:36,893
Speaker 2: to do this idea, this business, this way that we

613
00:29:36,893 --> 00:29:41,133
Speaker 2: could make some money or do a new start a venture.

614
00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:44,413
Speaker 2: It's no, no, no, no no.

615
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Speaker 16: And that that's the attitude that counsel local bodies should

616
00:29:48,813 --> 00:29:51,333
Speaker 16: have when someone goes to them to try and discust

617
00:29:51,373 --> 00:29:54,373
Speaker 16: something that they want to do, other than just say no,

618
00:29:54,453 --> 00:29:58,853
Speaker 16: you can't do that, which does happen a lot. Yeah,

619
00:29:58,973 --> 00:30:02,533
Speaker 16: tools true, and let's see how we could do something

620
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Speaker 16: here or assist you or whatever. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean the hard part about that, Neil is there

622
00:30:07,533 --> 00:30:11,293
Speaker 3: has been examples of that happening in local body. I

623
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Speaker 3: just think after the earthquakes and christ It's right, they

624
00:30:13,293 --> 00:30:17,173
Speaker 3: had this campaign called Share an Idea where people of

625
00:30:17,493 --> 00:30:20,013
Speaker 3: Canterbury could share an idea about what they wanted the

626
00:30:20,013 --> 00:30:22,813
Speaker 3: city to look like. And all these fantastic ideas were

627
00:30:22,813 --> 00:30:26,693
Speaker 3: shared and they had hundreds of thousands of ideas came

628
00:30:26,773 --> 00:30:28,853
Speaker 3: through and that got presented to the government because the

629
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Speaker 3: government kind of took over. Jerry Brownlee was the Minister

630
00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:35,813
Speaker 3: of earthquake Recovery and I think maybe one of those

631
00:30:35,853 --> 00:30:38,653
Speaker 3: ideas got got across the line. In the ends, most

632
00:30:38,693 --> 00:30:42,093
Speaker 3: of them the government just said Nah, too hard, too expensive,

633
00:30:42,213 --> 00:30:43,173
Speaker 3: can't do it. Sorry.

634
00:30:44,053 --> 00:30:48,213
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, well obviously you can't do you there lots

635
00:30:48,213 --> 00:30:52,453
Speaker 16: of the.

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Speaker 3: Good on you, Neil, thank you, and here in lies

637
00:30:54,973 --> 00:30:56,733
Speaker 3: the problem wriders. There's got to be a balance. You

638
00:30:56,773 --> 00:31:01,173
Speaker 3: can't have every wishy washy idea being presented to local

639
00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:04,213
Speaker 3: or central government saying, yep, I think this is a

640
00:31:04,213 --> 00:31:06,373
Speaker 3: fantastic idea. Let's have a think about this.

641
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Speaker 2: This text is interesting on is just an idea? A

642
00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:11,973
Speaker 2: no is easier to reverse than a yes. Do the

643
00:31:12,013 --> 00:31:15,293
Speaker 2: ground work first before presenting the idea. Alternatively, sow the seed,

644
00:31:15,453 --> 00:31:17,893
Speaker 2: nurture it and watch it grow. Yougo go off and

645
00:31:17,933 --> 00:31:20,893
Speaker 2: be the barrier to getting things to progress, or you know,

646
00:31:20,973 --> 00:31:23,453
Speaker 2: to quote the Stoics, the obstacle is the way. So

647
00:31:23,653 --> 00:31:25,493
Speaker 2: if a lot of people are saying no, that's the

648
00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:27,413
Speaker 2: path that you have to go through to get your

649
00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:29,933
Speaker 2: idea across. Just because they're saying no, it doesn't mean

650
00:31:29,973 --> 00:31:30,333
Speaker 2: you stop.

651
00:31:30,493 --> 00:31:32,933
Speaker 3: That shows your messala you've got the character to push

652
00:31:32,973 --> 00:31:33,813
Speaker 3: through those challenges.

653
00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:34,093
Speaker 2: Yeah.

654
00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:36,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

655
00:31:36,893 --> 00:31:38,813
Speaker 3: to call. It is sixteen to two.

656
00:31:41,013 --> 00:31:44,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh eight

657
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:47,253
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor Afternoons with the

658
00:31:47,333 --> 00:31:51,773
Speaker 1: Volvo XC ninety tick every box, a seamless experience awaits

659
00:31:51,893 --> 00:31:52,413
Speaker 1: news dogs.

660
00:31:52,413 --> 00:31:56,093
Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon thirteen to two, And we're having

661
00:31:56,093 --> 00:31:59,013
Speaker 3: a good debate about whether we're a bunch of naysayers

662
00:31:59,093 --> 00:32:00,773
Speaker 3: in New Zealand and if we are, what do we

663
00:32:00,773 --> 00:32:03,093
Speaker 3: do about it? How do you shut down those people

664
00:32:03,093 --> 00:32:05,733
Speaker 3: who continuously say no to everything?

665
00:32:06,773 --> 00:32:08,213
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, Chris, your thoughts on that?

666
00:32:10,053 --> 00:32:10,253
Speaker 17: Yeah?

667
00:32:10,373 --> 00:32:15,013
Speaker 18: So in general, what you're saying is absolutely correct. And

668
00:32:15,373 --> 00:32:18,733
Speaker 18: my background is in the investigation space and audit space,

669
00:32:19,213 --> 00:32:23,013
Speaker 18: and I have found that it's third tier managers that

670
00:32:23,133 --> 00:32:29,093
Speaker 18: are scared of being sound, not performing or failing in

671
00:32:29,173 --> 00:32:32,493
Speaker 18: things and by their staff. So before they don't approve

672
00:32:32,613 --> 00:32:34,973
Speaker 18: up because they don't want to take the risk. When

673
00:32:35,573 --> 00:32:37,333
Speaker 18: I wor portrayed me or I we portrayed me a

674
00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,853
Speaker 18: few years ago, and I was a manager level there,

675
00:32:40,053 --> 00:32:42,973
Speaker 18: and we would stand around the pool table every day

676
00:32:43,213 --> 00:32:45,373
Speaker 18: and throw out ideas on what to do. After we

677
00:32:45,453 --> 00:32:48,253
Speaker 18: discussed them with our team, we'd talk about them as

678
00:32:48,373 --> 00:32:51,893
Speaker 18: else and then we would trust our staff that they've

679
00:32:51,933 --> 00:32:54,213
Speaker 18: done the right thing, and then they would want to

680
00:32:54,213 --> 00:32:54,693
Speaker 18: give it a go.

681
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:56,213
Speaker 15: So we went off and tried it.

682
00:32:56,653 --> 00:32:59,973
Speaker 18: If it failed, we went, oh bugger that didn't work,

683
00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:03,973
Speaker 18: No blame, Let's find something better to do. I absolutely

684
00:33:04,053 --> 00:33:07,413
Speaker 18: believe that we are no organization and we don't want

685
00:33:07,453 --> 00:33:09,293
Speaker 18: to get things to go, and that's going to stifle

686
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:09,813
Speaker 18: our growth.

687
00:33:10,493 --> 00:33:12,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's part of it, isn't it that the

688
00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:18,133
Speaker 2: consequences for something failing what stops people people doing things?

689
00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:21,653
Speaker 2: So sorry, but I was just going to say that

690
00:33:21,813 --> 00:33:25,333
Speaker 2: even if one in four things you try succeed, that's

691
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:27,733
Speaker 2: actually pretty good good success rate, wouldn't you say?

692
00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:29,413
Speaker 17: Absolutely?

693
00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:31,453
Speaker 18: And I do a lot of stuff with I volunteer

694
00:33:31,493 --> 00:33:34,373
Speaker 18: with youth groups, and what I find my role is

695
00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:38,493
Speaker 18: to facilitate a path that they can try something, so

696
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:41,493
Speaker 18: they have an idea, we give them resources, we give

697
00:33:41,533 --> 00:33:43,493
Speaker 18: it a go, and if it didn't work, we say,

698
00:33:43,693 --> 00:33:46,453
Speaker 18: what have you learned or I'm an idiot? No, you've

699
00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:49,053
Speaker 18: learned to get something you go And this one failed

700
00:33:49,053 --> 00:33:52,173
Speaker 18: because of X, Y and Z, Right, how are we

701
00:33:52,253 --> 00:33:54,933
Speaker 18: going to do something differently? And then what you're doing

702
00:33:54,973 --> 00:33:57,373
Speaker 18: is you're trying to get them to grow your imagination

703
00:33:57,813 --> 00:34:00,333
Speaker 18: and then to have a give it a go chance.

704
00:34:00,973 --> 00:34:03,053
Speaker 18: And I'm not going to succeed all the time. And

705
00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:06,293
Speaker 18: you know, if you fail ten times and you win once.

706
00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:10,453
Speaker 18: What you've had is you've had ten opportunities to improve.

707
00:34:11,453 --> 00:34:15,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a cliche, you're not learning, it's a cliche,

708
00:34:15,253 --> 00:34:19,013
Speaker 2: but you know, failure is learning. So what do you

709
00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:20,653
Speaker 2: think about what I was saying before? And I was

710
00:34:20,693 --> 00:34:22,652
Speaker 2: kind of being a little bit facetious with it, and

711
00:34:22,733 --> 00:34:24,933
Speaker 2: maybe not maybe was, but this is how we used

712
00:34:24,933 --> 00:34:26,573
Speaker 2: to deal with things when I first started out and

713
00:34:26,573 --> 00:34:28,373
Speaker 2: the things we're doing. We used to shame people that

714
00:34:28,413 --> 00:34:31,493
Speaker 2: would be asas we'd call them chickens. Do you think

715
00:34:31,533 --> 00:34:33,133
Speaker 2: that's Do you think that's too too far?

716
00:34:34,813 --> 00:34:35,333
Speaker 19: Yeah?

717
00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:39,253
Speaker 18: I think I think that is. And the reason is that,

718
00:34:39,653 --> 00:34:42,213
Speaker 18: like I'm on the sixties and you guys are somewhere

719
00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:45,613
Speaker 18: below that, and I reckon it's the thirties to forty group.

720
00:34:46,373 --> 00:34:50,173
Speaker 18: We need to change our way of verbalizing that. So

721
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:51,933
Speaker 18: instead of saying your chicken, you don't want to give

722
00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:54,333
Speaker 18: it a go, blah blah blah, as you turn around

723
00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:58,213
Speaker 18: and you say something like what can I do to

724
00:34:58,333 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 18: help you give this a go? Because if you don't

725
00:35:01,853 --> 00:35:04,813
Speaker 18: give it a go, I have failed but not given

726
00:35:04,853 --> 00:35:07,893
Speaker 18: you that opportunity and don't be scared about it. And

727
00:35:07,893 --> 00:35:10,172
Speaker 18: if we were like that all the way up to CEOs.

728
00:35:10,413 --> 00:35:12,893
Speaker 18: Give it a go, Give it a go. That one

729
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:15,373
Speaker 18: thing that worked might be worth a million dollars and

730
00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:18,133
Speaker 18: the other ones were only worth fifty thousand dollars in failure.

731
00:35:18,293 --> 00:35:20,732
Speaker 2: Give a taste the carey. Now, interesting thing you say

732
00:35:20,733 --> 00:35:22,573
Speaker 2: there because because because I was saying this to my

733
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:24,773
Speaker 2: son the other day, because he's going off into into

734
00:35:24,813 --> 00:35:27,373
Speaker 2: the world now, he's just finished school, and he was

735
00:35:27,453 --> 00:35:28,973
Speaker 2: thinking about what he's going to do. And I say,

736
00:35:29,013 --> 00:35:30,893
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if what you start doing you do

737
00:35:30,933 --> 00:35:36,212
Speaker 2: something else or or it fails or succeeds. You're young,

738
00:35:36,333 --> 00:35:38,333
Speaker 2: and now's the time to just do some stuff. Is

739
00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:41,733
Speaker 2: as long as you're doing something and trying things, meeting people,

740
00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:45,732
Speaker 2: getting competent at different things, because you don't know which

741
00:35:45,773 --> 00:35:47,613
Speaker 2: way the path goes. And I think a lot of people,

742
00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:52,413
Speaker 2: I guess they'd stagnate around having to make a decision

743
00:35:52,453 --> 00:35:57,253
Speaker 2: because that decision has to definitely succeed. Whereas it's fine

744
00:35:57,373 --> 00:35:59,893
Speaker 2: to do start something and it fails and you learn

745
00:35:59,933 --> 00:36:01,853
Speaker 2: that that wasn't your thing, and then and then you

746
00:36:01,893 --> 00:36:04,212
Speaker 2: go from that. You might have met a guy who's

747
00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:05,933
Speaker 2: doing something else, and then he becomes your mate and

748
00:36:05,973 --> 00:36:08,293
Speaker 2: you go and do something else, you know, look at

749
00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:10,653
Speaker 2: like the branches of a tree or the branches of

750
00:36:10,693 --> 00:36:10,933
Speaker 2: a tree.

751
00:36:11,013 --> 00:36:15,293
Speaker 18: Chris, absolutely, And I think the one thing that our education,

752
00:36:15,453 --> 00:36:20,093
Speaker 18: both social and formal institutions are missing, is the ability

753
00:36:20,293 --> 00:36:23,773
Speaker 18: in the teenager's life to do critical thinking. And critical

754
00:36:23,813 --> 00:36:27,773
Speaker 18: thinking then makes you understand the consequences of your actions.

755
00:36:27,933 --> 00:36:31,093
Speaker 18: And I know everybody in my demographics say you do

756
00:36:31,173 --> 00:36:33,693
Speaker 18: not understand the consports of what they do, either the

757
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,973
Speaker 18: effect on somebody or the effect on other people, or

758
00:36:37,013 --> 00:36:40,053
Speaker 18: the effect on your lifestyle. And if we taught thinking

759
00:36:40,093 --> 00:36:44,093
Speaker 18: to understand the pros and cons the swat analysis slightly earlier,

760
00:36:44,613 --> 00:36:47,973
Speaker 18: I think our younger people will have an absolute better

761
00:36:48,093 --> 00:36:51,573
Speaker 18: journey because they accept the consequences of what they're about

762
00:36:51,653 --> 00:36:54,212
Speaker 18: to do rather than blaming somebody else.

763
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:55,733
Speaker 2: Understand.

764
00:36:55,853 --> 00:36:57,133
Speaker 18: That's why sidebox.

765
00:36:57,173 --> 00:37:00,213
Speaker 3: Chris, thank you very much, really appreciate it. Well said, Yeah,

766
00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:03,813
Speaker 3: just on the enthusiasm of people coming into the workforce,

767
00:37:03,893 --> 00:37:06,373
Speaker 3: That to me is the number one tragedy that I've

768
00:37:06,413 --> 00:37:08,533
Speaker 3: seen in my career. When someone comes to the and

769
00:37:08,573 --> 00:37:12,013
Speaker 3: they've got enthusiasm up the wazoo, but they just get

770
00:37:12,093 --> 00:37:16,333
Speaker 3: knocked down again and again and again until that enthusiasm

771
00:37:16,493 --> 00:37:19,373
Speaker 3: just becomes inertia and they no no longer want to

772
00:37:19,373 --> 00:37:21,533
Speaker 3: bring ideas to the table because I've been told no

773
00:37:21,733 --> 00:37:23,893
Speaker 3: so many times. And to your point about the stoics

774
00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:25,733
Speaker 3: that say you've got to push through that, but a

775
00:37:25,773 --> 00:37:27,373
Speaker 3: lot of people get to the point and say, why

776
00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:28,053
Speaker 3: am I bothering?

777
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:31,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean just across everything in our country,

778
00:37:31,053 --> 00:37:32,893
Speaker 2: people keep saying I can't do this because of that.

779
00:37:32,973 --> 00:37:35,773
Speaker 2: I can't do this because of that. And whatever environment

780
00:37:35,773 --> 00:37:40,413
Speaker 2: you in, whatever is happening politically across you, whatever headwinds

781
00:37:40,453 --> 00:37:42,853
Speaker 2: you've got. That is the way. As the Starks say,

782
00:37:42,853 --> 00:37:44,893
Speaker 2: the obstacle is the way you go. Well, that is

783
00:37:44,933 --> 00:37:46,733
Speaker 2: the path I have to take. These are the obstacles

784
00:37:46,773 --> 00:37:48,373
Speaker 2: that I have to get past. And if some of

785
00:37:48,373 --> 00:37:52,293
Speaker 2: those are people saying nay, then naysayers or whatever, listen

786
00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:54,973
Speaker 2: to their concerns, but just just steamroll through them.

787
00:37:55,013 --> 00:37:55,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it.

788
00:37:56,133 --> 00:37:57,573
Speaker 2: The obstacle is a way. That's the path.

789
00:37:57,773 --> 00:37:59,853
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

790
00:37:59,933 --> 00:38:01,133
Speaker 3: It is seven to two.

791
00:38:02,733 --> 00:38:06,292
Speaker 1: Matties Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred

792
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:09,413
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor After with the Volvo

793
00:38:09,733 --> 00:38:11,573
Speaker 1: XC ninety tick every box.

794
00:38:11,773 --> 00:38:14,493
Speaker 4: A seamless experience of weeds, news dogs.

795
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:19,772
Speaker 3: B good afternoon five to two. Good discussion on whether

796
00:38:19,773 --> 00:38:21,133
Speaker 3: we're a bunch of nay say.

797
00:38:21,053 --> 00:38:23,493
Speaker 2: Is yeah, hey, look at this. I'm happy with this

798
00:38:23,573 --> 00:38:26,053
Speaker 2: text Matt, you need to do the pre match work

799
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,453
Speaker 2: up talk for the Warriors this season. Mate. I'm ready

800
00:38:28,493 --> 00:38:32,093
Speaker 2: to run through a brick wall. The obstacle is the way.

801
00:38:32,293 --> 00:38:37,213
Speaker 3: Obstacle is the way. Fantastic, right, good discussion. After two o'clock,

802
00:38:37,293 --> 00:38:40,813
Speaker 3: let's have a chat about business's own personal toilets. It's

803
00:38:40,893 --> 00:38:43,373
Speaker 3: kicking off in the UK and the US where businesses

804
00:38:43,373 --> 00:38:45,773
Speaker 3: are saying you can only use our toilet if you

805
00:38:45,773 --> 00:38:48,453
Speaker 3: buy something from our business. Is that fair enough or not?

806
00:38:48,773 --> 00:38:51,853
Speaker 2: Is this is saying no, yes, can't use our bathrooms.

807
00:38:52,733 --> 00:38:53,692
Speaker 3: Obstacle is the way.

808
00:38:53,853 --> 00:38:56,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, if you're using someone's bathroom, you have

809
00:38:56,293 --> 00:38:59,013
Speaker 2: to at least buy some gum or a cheese scone.

810
00:38:59,133 --> 00:39:01,853
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred eighty and eighty is the number

811
00:39:01,853 --> 00:39:04,413
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

812
00:39:04,413 --> 00:39:06,773
Speaker 3: This is going to be a great discussion. New sport

813
00:39:06,893 --> 00:39:08,253
Speaker 3: and weather is coming up.

814
00:39:08,373 --> 00:39:33,013
Speaker 20: Knicks will catch you on the other side.

815
00:39:22,653 --> 00:39:24,813
Speaker 21: To close house.

816
00:39:25,813 --> 00:39:28,493
Speaker 5: Take the week.

817
00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:34,813
Speaker 22: The mouse we can love of things that we know about.

818
00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:37,333
Speaker 14: We can go forever.

819
00:39:37,813 --> 00:39:39,533
Speaker 3: So you want to sit it.

820
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:43,413
Speaker 4: Out talking with you all afternoon.

821
00:39:43,613 --> 00:39:46,933
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo

822
00:39:47,253 --> 00:39:49,093
Speaker 1: X ninety used talk zib.

823
00:39:50,853 --> 00:39:53,333
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and you welcome into the show.

824
00:39:53,613 --> 00:39:55,653
Speaker 2: Can I just say to for those that are interested,

825
00:39:55,813 --> 00:39:58,053
Speaker 2: gott I hate the Kansas City Chiefs.

826
00:39:59,173 --> 00:40:02,213
Speaker 3: Go the Buffalo Bells, folks. We've got it up on

827
00:40:02,253 --> 00:40:07,133
Speaker 3: the telly at the moment. The bells, the bells, and

828
00:40:07,293 --> 00:40:09,893
Speaker 3: I'm learning a lot. I've got a say hand up.

829
00:40:09,933 --> 00:40:12,933
Speaker 3: I'm very naive about the NFL, but I think by

830
00:40:12,973 --> 00:40:14,853
Speaker 3: the time we get to Super Bowl in two weeks time,

831
00:40:15,133 --> 00:40:16,133
Speaker 3: I'm going to learn a lot.

832
00:40:16,413 --> 00:40:18,652
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I'm a huge fan of FL. I got

833
00:40:18,693 --> 00:40:23,453
Speaker 2: into it by playing John Madden on the PlayStation one

834
00:40:23,493 --> 00:40:25,212
Speaker 2: when it's a catch. That's how I learned the rules.

835
00:40:25,493 --> 00:40:26,893
Speaker 2: I've been following it ever since.

836
00:40:26,933 --> 00:40:28,652
Speaker 3: Ye best way to learn it a sport, isn't it

837
00:40:28,693 --> 00:40:30,493
Speaker 3: is to play it on the PlayStation Xbox?

838
00:40:30,573 --> 00:40:33,373
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Madden is you know. It just so

839
00:40:33,533 --> 00:40:36,893
Speaker 2: happens that NFL really, you know, works really well as

840
00:40:36,933 --> 00:40:39,773
Speaker 2: a video game. Harder to get a great Rugby video game.

841
00:40:39,813 --> 00:40:41,453
Speaker 2: Although I don't think they've I don't think this is

842
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:43,093
Speaker 2: pasted jonnal Loman Regula.

843
00:40:43,053 --> 00:40:46,093
Speaker 3: A great game, great game, fantastic right. This is going

844
00:40:46,173 --> 00:40:48,172
Speaker 3: to be a good discussion over the next hour or

845
00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:51,133
Speaker 3: so using a toilet in a business if you do

846
00:40:51,293 --> 00:40:54,573
Speaker 3: not buy one of their products. It's kicking off in

847
00:40:54,613 --> 00:40:57,973
Speaker 3: the UK and the US. Recently, Starbucks hit the headlines

848
00:40:57,973 --> 00:41:00,773
Speaker 3: when it reversed its open door policy in the US,

849
00:41:00,853 --> 00:41:03,493
Speaker 3: prompting a new look at just how welcoming high streets

850
00:41:03,493 --> 00:41:05,653
Speaker 3: full of coffee shops are when it comes to people

851
00:41:05,693 --> 00:41:10,212
Speaker 3: who want to use a toilet without a penny. Now,

852
00:41:10,893 --> 00:41:15,893
Speaker 3: a specific case, I get it, it's got a it's good.

853
00:41:16,053 --> 00:41:19,853
Speaker 3: Specific case is love Fit Cafe. This is near Brighton's

854
00:41:19,893 --> 00:41:23,732
Speaker 3: busy City Center railway station. It used to say it's

855
00:41:23,733 --> 00:41:26,453
Speaker 3: toilets were available for any passer by to use, even

856
00:41:26,453 --> 00:41:28,733
Speaker 3: if they weren't a customer. But it was a disaster,

857
00:41:28,893 --> 00:41:31,973
Speaker 3: says owner Jason bright As Homeless people would lock themselves

858
00:41:31,973 --> 00:41:34,973
Speaker 3: in there for periods of time. That'd fall asleep in there,

859
00:41:35,013 --> 00:41:37,692
Speaker 3: he says, or take drugs, you'd get abuse. It's the

860
00:41:37,733 --> 00:41:40,493
Speaker 3: worst thing I've ever done. Having a public toilet. Now

861
00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:43,013
Speaker 3: he has a customer only policy, although he does make

862
00:41:43,053 --> 00:41:46,373
Speaker 3: exceptions for the elderly or young children.

863
00:41:46,373 --> 00:41:47,533
Speaker 2: Or a pregnant woman.

864
00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:49,533
Speaker 3: Oh yes, definitely pregnant lady.

865
00:41:49,573 --> 00:41:52,093
Speaker 2: A pregnant lady. You've got a letter into the toilet.

866
00:41:52,493 --> 00:41:54,333
Speaker 2: So what's your opinion on this, tyle, Because when you

867
00:41:54,373 --> 00:41:56,373
Speaker 2: brought this up to me before, you were saying that

868
00:41:56,533 --> 00:42:00,533
Speaker 2: you feel that large companies owe you to use the bathroom.

869
00:42:00,573 --> 00:42:04,093
Speaker 2: So you think it. You think a McDonald's, a KFC,

870
00:42:04,853 --> 00:42:09,253
Speaker 2: you think a service station, service station that they should

871
00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:10,933
Speaker 2: let you use their bathroom without anything.

872
00:42:11,053 --> 00:42:13,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's a little bit more nuanced than that.

873
00:42:13,173 --> 00:42:15,613
Speaker 3: So in a general sense, yes, I was at the

874
00:42:15,693 --> 00:42:18,373
Speaker 3: McDonald's and Key Street in Auckland and I got a

875
00:42:18,373 --> 00:42:21,053
Speaker 3: bet irate. I did actually buy something, But even then,

876
00:42:21,093 --> 00:42:22,773
Speaker 3: to me, it was the principle. When I went upstairs

877
00:42:22,853 --> 00:42:24,853
Speaker 3: to use the bathroom found out it was behind a

878
00:42:24,853 --> 00:42:27,853
Speaker 3: locked door. I needed a code, and I started muttering

879
00:42:27,933 --> 00:42:31,013
Speaker 3: under my breath, and someone who was dining upstairs said, hey,

880
00:42:31,053 --> 00:42:32,732
Speaker 3: I'll give you a code. Don't worry about It's all good.

881
00:42:32,773 --> 00:42:35,773
Speaker 3: So that guy was an absolute legend. But part of

882
00:42:35,813 --> 00:42:39,533
Speaker 3: me thought, come on, McDonald's, you know what, it's just

883
00:42:39,573 --> 00:42:42,453
Speaker 3: a bathroom. I'm here, I am buying something, but that's beside

884
00:42:42,453 --> 00:42:42,732
Speaker 3: the point.

885
00:42:42,773 --> 00:42:44,813
Speaker 2: Someone's going to clean your filth up afterwards.

886
00:42:44,893 --> 00:42:45,213
Speaker 4: Tyler.

887
00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:48,493
Speaker 3: Well, then I thought about it and granted, Key Street

888
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:51,692
Speaker 3: is an area where there are people who are more

889
00:42:51,773 --> 00:42:54,453
Speaker 3: vulnerable in our society. Let's put it that they were

890
00:42:54,573 --> 00:42:57,453
Speaker 3: previously storming into McDonald's to use the bathroom, maybe making

891
00:42:57,453 --> 00:42:58,173
Speaker 3: a bit of a mess.

892
00:42:58,573 --> 00:43:01,013
Speaker 2: So I get well, no matter how vulnerable you are

893
00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:02,533
Speaker 2: in society doesn't mean I mean you have to be

894
00:43:02,573 --> 00:43:06,173
Speaker 2: pretty vulnerable for you can't use a bathroom cleanly.

895
00:43:05,813 --> 00:43:08,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true. So it's about respect to the bathroom.

896
00:43:09,493 --> 00:43:12,133
Speaker 3: But when I'm traveling up and down the country, as

897
00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:15,413
Speaker 3: I did over summer, and I scream into a service

898
00:43:15,413 --> 00:43:18,213
Speaker 3: station and I'm not there with an intention to buy something,

899
00:43:18,253 --> 00:43:20,453
Speaker 3: but mainly just to use their lou do I think

900
00:43:20,493 --> 00:43:23,053
Speaker 3: it's okay? Yeah? Yeah, I think it's okay to nip

901
00:43:23,093 --> 00:43:23,653
Speaker 3: into the bathroom.

902
00:43:23,653 --> 00:43:25,133
Speaker 2: Look, this is how i'd put it, and I'd love

903
00:43:25,173 --> 00:43:27,093
Speaker 2: to hear people's thoughts on this. One hundred eighty ten

904
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:29,333
Speaker 2: eighty or nine two nine two. Maybe you run a

905
00:43:29,373 --> 00:43:33,013
Speaker 2: business and how you run your bathroom policy. But it's

906
00:43:33,173 --> 00:43:36,813
Speaker 2: lovely if they do. Good on them. Yeah, you know

907
00:43:37,533 --> 00:43:42,853
Speaker 2: they're doing their bit for for mankind. But they don't

908
00:43:42,893 --> 00:43:44,573
Speaker 2: owe anything to you. You don't know anyone to get

909
00:43:44,573 --> 00:43:46,173
Speaker 2: into your bathroom and your private business.

910
00:43:46,293 --> 00:43:46,373
Speaker 7: No.

911
00:43:46,773 --> 00:43:50,453
Speaker 2: And look, even in places like a service station, if

912
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:52,292
Speaker 2: I stop and it does have a bathroom that's opened everyone,

913
00:43:52,293 --> 00:43:54,373
Speaker 2: I'll still buy some gum. I'll still give them a

914
00:43:54,413 --> 00:43:56,133
Speaker 2: little bit of business because I think, good on you.

915
00:43:56,133 --> 00:43:57,692
Speaker 2: You've let me into the bathroom. You owe a little

916
00:43:57,693 --> 00:43:59,253
Speaker 2: bit of something, bit of something. But come back the

917
00:43:59,293 --> 00:43:59,573
Speaker 2: other way.

918
00:43:59,653 --> 00:44:02,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're the best of us. I I'm amazing.

919
00:44:02,493 --> 00:44:03,893
Speaker 3: Well here's where the nuance comes in.

920
00:44:03,933 --> 00:44:06,613
Speaker 2: That ill I saint with the way my bathroom. But

921
00:44:06,653 --> 00:44:08,173
Speaker 2: also because because I've got to tell you this, you

922
00:44:08,333 --> 00:44:10,253
Speaker 2: think it's nothing. You say, oh, I just use the bathroom.

923
00:44:10,253 --> 00:44:12,693
Speaker 2: But as I was saying before, when I moved up

924
00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:15,293
Speaker 2: to Auckland, I was working in real groovy records and

925
00:44:15,333 --> 00:44:17,533
Speaker 2: for a while there we'd let customers use the bathroom.

926
00:44:17,853 --> 00:44:21,252
Speaker 2: And I was the newest on board, just a young

927
00:44:21,293 --> 00:44:23,013
Speaker 2: kid from Dunedin. So who had to clean up the

928
00:44:23,053 --> 00:44:26,853
Speaker 2: mess when? And you wouldn't believe how people that you've

929
00:44:26,893 --> 00:44:29,093
Speaker 2: done the favor of allowing them to use the toilet

930
00:44:29,373 --> 00:44:32,453
Speaker 2: will then just be absolute disgusting pigs in it, and

931
00:44:32,493 --> 00:44:35,533
Speaker 2: it's always the minimum wage kid from Dunedin that has

932
00:44:35,573 --> 00:44:36,133
Speaker 2: to clean it up.

933
00:44:36,293 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 3: Well, that is a fair point. I have never been

934
00:44:38,413 --> 00:44:41,173
Speaker 3: in a position where off needing public bathrooms, and that

935
00:44:41,253 --> 00:44:42,093
Speaker 3: is a very fair point.

936
00:44:42,293 --> 00:44:44,333
Speaker 2: Move to the big city to work in a glamorous

937
00:44:44,373 --> 00:44:46,693
Speaker 2: record store thinking that you're going to be talking to

938
00:44:46,733 --> 00:44:49,373
Speaker 2: people about the latest imports from overseas and records and

939
00:44:49,373 --> 00:44:51,293
Speaker 2: what are you? You got the toilet brush and the

940
00:44:51,293 --> 00:44:52,053
Speaker 2: toilet duck out.

941
00:44:52,133 --> 00:44:54,893
Speaker 3: You got to start somewhere. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

942
00:44:54,973 --> 00:44:57,413
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Is it fair cop for a business to say,

943
00:44:57,613 --> 00:44:59,733
Speaker 3: if you want to use our bathroom, you've got to

944
00:44:59,773 --> 00:45:02,413
Speaker 3: buy one of our products. So eight hundred eighty ten

945
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:04,652
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Nine to two nine

946
00:45:04,773 --> 00:45:07,973
Speaker 3: two is the text number. It is twelve past two.

947
00:45:07,973 --> 00:45:11,493
Speaker 3: Back your new.

948
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:15,013
Speaker 1: Home of afternoon Talk, Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the

949
00:45:15,133 --> 00:45:19,053
Speaker 1: Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into something special. Call

950
00:45:19,333 --> 00:45:21,613
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty eight News Talk.

951
00:45:21,453 --> 00:45:21,893
Speaker 4: Said, be.

952
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:25,653
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. As a quarter bas two.

953
00:45:25,573 --> 00:45:28,453
Speaker 2: Tyler thinks he's entitled to use any bathroom of any

954
00:45:29,053 --> 00:45:30,973
Speaker 2: establishment if he needs to go, as.

955
00:45:30,893 --> 00:45:33,013
Speaker 3: Long as it's a big multinational corporation.

956
00:45:33,493 --> 00:45:38,533
Speaker 2: But this text here is questioning our vocabulary. And look,

957
00:45:38,573 --> 00:45:41,252
Speaker 2: I think this is this is fair enough. Dear God,

958
00:45:41,293 --> 00:45:44,853
Speaker 2: please stop using the bathroom using bathroom. Surely your bathroom

959
00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:46,693
Speaker 2: has to have a bath in it. Tell the buggers

960
00:45:46,693 --> 00:45:48,533
Speaker 2: to have a bath before they leave home. Call it

961
00:45:48,573 --> 00:45:53,253
Speaker 2: a duney, shut out, helloo or a WC. Yeah, that's

962
00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:56,453
Speaker 2: a very good point that this person's making. Although I

963
00:45:56,533 --> 00:45:59,652
Speaker 2: was getting texts before about blasphemy, so maybe the Dear

964
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:01,652
Speaker 2: God part of it won't go down. Well, everyone's got

965
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:03,893
Speaker 2: a problem with a certain word. But yeah, facilities. Should

966
00:46:03,853 --> 00:46:05,493
Speaker 2: we call it facilities because it does seem wrong when

967
00:46:05,493 --> 00:46:07,453
Speaker 2: you're talking about a bathroom. A bathroom has to have

968
00:46:07,493 --> 00:46:08,053
Speaker 2: a shower on it.

969
00:46:08,133 --> 00:46:10,893
Speaker 3: But bathroom is very polite. Your bathroom. Yeah, if I

970
00:46:10,933 --> 00:46:13,573
Speaker 3: go into a business and I'm a complete stranger's excuse me,

971
00:46:14,013 --> 00:46:16,453
Speaker 3: whereabouts is your bathroom? And a restaurant, for example, I

972
00:46:16,453 --> 00:46:18,173
Speaker 3: wouldn't say, hey, where's your Dunny.

973
00:46:18,653 --> 00:46:21,692
Speaker 2: You wouldn't. Yeah, he's you Dunn. He's pretty polite. Yeah,

974
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:22,652
Speaker 2: Dunny's not too bad.

975
00:46:22,653 --> 00:46:23,652
Speaker 3: Excuse me, where's your lou?

976
00:46:24,213 --> 00:46:25,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, I've tried there before.

977
00:46:26,013 --> 00:46:27,772
Speaker 3: But sometimes people say, lou what.

978
00:46:27,693 --> 00:46:29,533
Speaker 2: The are you're talking about the powder room?

979
00:46:31,773 --> 00:46:34,133
Speaker 3: Well, w C is going right back, isn't it. WC.

980
00:46:34,333 --> 00:46:35,973
Speaker 3: I'd feel very gentry say.

981
00:46:36,093 --> 00:46:39,253
Speaker 2: The water closet. Yeah, water closet. Yeah, I mean you're

982
00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 2: not going to use the yeah, yeah, okay, So we'll

983
00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:45,173
Speaker 2: say facilities, Can we use your facilities? Please?

984
00:46:45,253 --> 00:46:48,493
Speaker 3: No one's going to get offended my facilities. Uh, Louise,

985
00:46:48,613 --> 00:46:52,573
Speaker 3: you're a business owner, are you saying now? Do you

986
00:46:53,093 --> 00:46:55,493
Speaker 3: let non paying customers use your facility?

987
00:46:57,813 --> 00:47:01,213
Speaker 2: I try not to have you had some problems in

988
00:47:01,253 --> 00:47:01,693
Speaker 2: the past.

989
00:47:03,013 --> 00:47:08,573
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I have a business, a hospitality business, and

990
00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:12,772
Speaker 5: people just seem to come off the street and run

991
00:47:12,813 --> 00:47:15,933
Speaker 5: and use the toilet without asking or saying anything, or

992
00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:18,652
Speaker 5: if you do, question in though, like well, I'm just

993
00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:22,013
Speaker 5: having a look around, and then they go use a loop,

994
00:47:22,133 --> 00:47:26,613
Speaker 5: probably do a number two and then walk out, and

995
00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:29,053
Speaker 5: I find it's really really rude.

996
00:47:29,773 --> 00:47:32,373
Speaker 2: What kind of business do you run, Louise?

997
00:47:33,453 --> 00:47:34,253
Speaker 5: A restaurant bar?

998
00:47:34,493 --> 00:47:36,933
Speaker 2: A restaurant bar? And is it is it large? Is

999
00:47:36,973 --> 00:47:38,692
Speaker 2: it a sort of how big? Is it?

1000
00:47:40,413 --> 00:47:40,533
Speaker 8: So?

1001
00:47:40,853 --> 00:47:44,133
Speaker 5: I've actually got two yeah, and the ones on the

1002
00:47:44,213 --> 00:47:46,773
Speaker 5: smaller side than ones fairly.

1003
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:48,893
Speaker 2: Big, so it's pretty hard for them to come in

1004
00:47:49,213 --> 00:47:51,853
Speaker 2: and use the bathroom without you noticing that they're in

1005
00:47:51,933 --> 00:47:53,813
Speaker 2: the air and not buying something.

1006
00:47:54,813 --> 00:47:57,252
Speaker 5: Infinitely in the small one and then the large one.

1007
00:47:57,333 --> 00:47:58,813
Speaker 5: So just a couple of days ago, I had a

1008
00:47:58,893 --> 00:48:01,773
Speaker 5: lady come in and she comes through the front and

1009
00:48:01,813 --> 00:48:03,573
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, can I help you. She's like, oh,

1010
00:48:03,693 --> 00:48:05,893
Speaker 5: I'm just having a look around. And then she carries

1011
00:48:05,933 --> 00:48:09,013
Speaker 5: on down down to the back to the toilet and

1012
00:48:09,293 --> 00:48:11,133
Speaker 5: go toe towilett and then she comes back and I

1013
00:48:11,173 --> 00:48:13,613
Speaker 5: was like, oh, but can I help you? And I'm

1014
00:48:13,653 --> 00:48:16,212
Speaker 5: like and she's yeah, no, I was just looking around.

1015
00:48:16,253 --> 00:48:18,573
Speaker 5: I said, well, there's public pool. It's just one hundred

1016
00:48:18,653 --> 00:48:23,453
Speaker 5: meters down the street. It's okay. And she says, oh,

1017
00:48:23,493 --> 00:48:25,333
Speaker 5: I'll buy a drink and I was like, oh, yeah,

1018
00:48:25,533 --> 00:48:26,173
Speaker 5: so you should.

1019
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:30,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, but I guess it's difficult for someone that's

1020
00:48:30,133 --> 00:48:32,293
Speaker 2: running a business though, because you don't know and obviously

1021
00:48:32,373 --> 00:48:37,333
Speaker 2: done this before. I'm intending to dine, but I need

1022
00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:39,813
Speaker 2: to visit the bathroom quickly, and so I might go

1023
00:48:39,853 --> 00:48:44,213
Speaker 2: to the bathroom first and then go and dine. That

1024
00:48:44,253 --> 00:48:47,652
Speaker 2: sounds gross, but you know, go and and then I'm

1025
00:48:47,653 --> 00:48:50,013
Speaker 2: going to you know, sit down and die and whatever.

1026
00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:53,093
Speaker 2: So if you're a business owner and you have a

1027
00:48:53,173 --> 00:48:56,013
Speaker 2: go at me at that point, then that could be

1028
00:48:56,093 --> 00:49:00,013
Speaker 2: a little bit awkward and you know, make the customer

1029
00:49:00,013 --> 00:49:01,653
Speaker 2: feel unwelcome. Hear what I'm.

1030
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:05,653
Speaker 5: Saying, Yeah, And you don't want to make them feel unwelcome,

1031
00:49:05,733 --> 00:49:10,453
Speaker 5: but you soon loom. I think, which finds coming to

1032
00:49:10,653 --> 00:49:11,613
Speaker 5: the toilet.

1033
00:49:11,573 --> 00:49:15,212
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's a way someone comes in if they're

1034
00:49:15,253 --> 00:49:18,253
Speaker 2: planning to I mean, how to be fair, I mean,

1035
00:49:18,293 --> 00:49:20,613
Speaker 2: how often do you absolutely need to go right now

1036
00:49:20,693 --> 00:49:22,853
Speaker 2: to the point where you can't sit down and book

1037
00:49:22,853 --> 00:49:23,533
Speaker 2: a table.

1038
00:49:23,373 --> 00:49:27,853
Speaker 3: Or But that did happen to me tolet well, exactly

1039
00:49:27,893 --> 00:49:29,573
Speaker 3: the public toilet one hundred meters down the road. But

1040
00:49:29,613 --> 00:49:31,212
Speaker 3: that did happen to me at a servo and quite

1041
00:49:31,293 --> 00:49:33,773
Speaker 3: quarter and stop there. Genuinely. I was going to pick

1042
00:49:33,853 --> 00:49:36,133
Speaker 3: up a sandwich. But I can't buy the sandwich then

1043
00:49:36,173 --> 00:49:38,173
Speaker 3: take it into the loop. That's just weird. So I

1044
00:49:38,213 --> 00:49:40,252
Speaker 3: started to head towards the loo first, and the woman

1045
00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:42,173
Speaker 3: yelled at me, and she said she was kind of

1046
00:49:41,973 --> 00:49:45,013
Speaker 3: a polite, but she yelled at me, excuse me, you

1047
00:49:45,013 --> 00:49:46,652
Speaker 3: can only use the toilet if you buy something, and

1048
00:49:46,693 --> 00:49:49,212
Speaker 3: I felt so embarrassed because all the customers were looking

1049
00:49:49,213 --> 00:49:51,173
Speaker 3: at me, like, who's this dor it bag using the

1050
00:49:51,213 --> 00:49:52,373
Speaker 3: toilet before I buy something?

1051
00:49:52,453 --> 00:49:54,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you represent me as well, Tyler. So

1052
00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:56,253
Speaker 2: you know that makes this whole show look bad when

1053
00:49:56,293 --> 00:49:58,173
Speaker 2: you behave like that. No, but I don't think I

1054
00:49:58,173 --> 00:50:00,652
Speaker 2: would be offended, Louise. If someone said to me I

1055
00:50:00,733 --> 00:50:03,333
Speaker 2: arrived and I really needed to go to the bathroom

1056
00:50:03,493 --> 00:50:05,533
Speaker 2: and you're you're behind the count and said, oh, the

1057
00:50:05,573 --> 00:50:08,692
Speaker 2: bathroom's only for customers, and then I'd say, oh, yeah, yeah, cool,

1058
00:50:08,693 --> 00:50:10,733
Speaker 2: I'm just going to the bathroom and then then I'm

1059
00:50:10,773 --> 00:50:13,213
Speaker 2: going to dine here. Then I don't think i'd be

1060
00:50:13,213 --> 00:50:15,253
Speaker 2: offended by that. I mean, so there's a plight where

1061
00:50:15,293 --> 00:50:17,893
Speaker 2: you could say it, yeah, Louise, have you if you've

1062
00:50:17,893 --> 00:50:18,733
Speaker 2: got a plight way to say it?

1063
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:21,493
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1064
00:50:21,613 --> 00:50:24,933
Speaker 3: I suppose we can we do Can we do a

1065
00:50:24,933 --> 00:50:27,373
Speaker 3: little bit of Can we play some roles here?

1066
00:50:27,453 --> 00:50:30,172
Speaker 2: Louise, We'll do a little play. I come and I've

1067
00:50:30,173 --> 00:50:33,813
Speaker 2: got my hands around my downstairs like a kid. I'm

1068
00:50:33,893 --> 00:50:37,893
Speaker 2: hopping around. I'm running towards your bathroom. What do you say, Louise?

1069
00:50:39,133 --> 00:50:41,093
Speaker 5: I normally just say can I help you?

1070
00:50:41,253 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 2: I guess right, and then i'd go, and I'd go.

1071
00:50:45,853 --> 00:50:48,293
Speaker 2: I'm about to spend three hundred and fifty dollars on dinner,

1072
00:50:48,293 --> 00:50:50,053
Speaker 2: but I just really need to go for a week.

1073
00:50:52,613 --> 00:50:54,652
Speaker 5: And you know a lot of people do say I'm

1074
00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:56,453
Speaker 5: just going to the bathroom and then I'll be right back.

1075
00:50:57,653 --> 00:51:01,333
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And in that circumstance, the benefit of the

1076
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:04,293
Speaker 3: doubt say yep, okay, go and use the bathroom and

1077
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:06,053
Speaker 3: then you can sit down and have some nice food.

1078
00:51:07,173 --> 00:51:08,133
Speaker 5: Yeah that's right.

1079
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:09,692
Speaker 2: Then you go, but then you yell at but make

1080
00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:16,613
Speaker 2: sure you wash your hands your peg. I want to

1081
00:51:16,653 --> 00:51:18,453
Speaker 2: see some clean hands when you come out of there.

1082
00:51:18,573 --> 00:51:21,853
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, not quite.

1083
00:51:22,093 --> 00:51:22,652
Speaker 2: That's too far.

1084
00:51:23,253 --> 00:51:25,172
Speaker 3: Louise, you're great, Thank you very much. Did you want

1085
00:51:25,173 --> 00:51:26,293
Speaker 3: to give a shout out for your business?

1086
00:51:26,293 --> 00:51:28,253
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, what is your business?

1087
00:51:29,293 --> 00:51:32,933
Speaker 5: So I own asty peg and pick them and take

1088
00:51:33,013 --> 00:51:34,093
Speaker 5: the tea barre and girls.

1089
00:51:34,213 --> 00:51:37,453
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. So she's very happy to use

1090
00:51:37,453 --> 00:51:39,893
Speaker 2: the bathrooms. But you're only if you're a customer. Okay,

1091
00:51:40,053 --> 00:51:41,373
Speaker 2: all right, so show some respect.

1092
00:51:41,493 --> 00:51:44,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely to the you're a good business owner, Luis c.

1093
00:51:44,733 --> 00:51:46,533
Speaker 3: You very much. Have a good after day.

1094
00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:47,893
Speaker 5: Thanks very yeah.

1095
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:51,573
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'm again getting

1096
00:51:51,573 --> 00:51:54,493
Speaker 3: an absolute spanking here from saying that I think the

1097
00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:58,973
Speaker 3: big companies like McDonald's, KFC and the gas stations, I

1098
00:51:59,013 --> 00:52:00,573
Speaker 3: should be allowed to nip in there and use their

1099
00:52:00,613 --> 00:52:03,733
Speaker 3: lou without buying a stick of gum. Tyler, get with

1100
00:52:03,773 --> 00:52:06,773
Speaker 3: the program. You would not want passers by to drop

1101
00:52:06,813 --> 00:52:11,893
Speaker 3: into your home to lou use your facilities, unannouncers, Yeah, no,

1102
00:52:12,013 --> 00:52:14,252
Speaker 3: I wouldn't, But then I don't have anything to sell.

1103
00:52:14,253 --> 00:52:16,093
Speaker 3: If they want to buy something in the house, maybe

1104
00:52:16,093 --> 00:52:17,292
Speaker 3: I will let them use my loop.

1105
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:21,733
Speaker 2: This person says the bathroom is so American say potty potty.

1106
00:52:21,893 --> 00:52:24,133
Speaker 2: I don't think we say potty Matt. I've given us

1107
00:52:24,133 --> 00:52:26,413
Speaker 2: a lot of thought about the toilet. What I tend

1108
00:52:26,453 --> 00:52:29,253
Speaker 2: to do. I use the establishment with relative frequency, and

1109
00:52:29,293 --> 00:52:30,893
Speaker 2: I need to stop in there sometimes to go to

1110
00:52:30,933 --> 00:52:34,173
Speaker 2: the bathroom, even though I'm not using it, using the

1111
00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:36,893
Speaker 2: bar or whatever. It's killing time. I just go for it.

1112
00:52:37,093 --> 00:52:40,053
Speaker 2: I'm a paying customer, just not that particular time. Yeah,

1113
00:52:40,053 --> 00:52:42,013
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if they recognize you there, they're not,

1114
00:52:42,093 --> 00:52:44,212
Speaker 2: and you know you're you know you're going there a lot.

1115
00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:46,013
Speaker 2: They're not going to hassle you about it too much.

1116
00:52:46,093 --> 00:52:47,973
Speaker 2: If you're a regular customer, Yeah, it's.

1117
00:52:47,893 --> 00:52:49,933
Speaker 3: Kind of dangerous. If you're a regular that's just using

1118
00:52:49,973 --> 00:52:53,212
Speaker 3: the bathroom, Yeah, and you're not a respectable bathroom user.

1119
00:52:53,493 --> 00:52:56,053
Speaker 2: If everyone in the world would just get together and

1120
00:52:56,053 --> 00:53:00,533
Speaker 2: start using the button, the facility, sorry, the potty, the

1121
00:53:00,653 --> 00:53:03,013
Speaker 2: duney in a respectful manner, it wouldn't be a problem.

1122
00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:05,373
Speaker 2: But there's there's a higher than zero percentage of our

1123
00:53:05,413 --> 00:53:08,773
Speaker 2: population that will do terrible things in a bar. And

1124
00:53:09,093 --> 00:53:12,933
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why. There's some kind of psychology behind

1125
00:53:12,973 --> 00:53:15,533
Speaker 2: people that actually actively want to make a miss in

1126
00:53:15,533 --> 00:53:16,053
Speaker 2: a bathroom.

1127
00:53:16,093 --> 00:53:18,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, just clean up after yourselves, will Will.

1128
00:53:18,693 --> 00:53:19,973
Speaker 2: You believe you do it right? You don't need to

1129
00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:21,333
Speaker 2: clean up after yourself.

1130
00:53:20,973 --> 00:53:23,212
Speaker 3: Agents of chaos? What is wrong with you? Oh?

1131
00:53:23,413 --> 00:53:26,893
Speaker 2: I think there's people trying to make a statement in bathrooms.

1132
00:53:26,933 --> 00:53:28,453
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a dog on a walk. They're

1133
00:53:28,453 --> 00:53:30,252
Speaker 2: trying to leave their mark for the next the next

1134
00:53:30,333 --> 00:53:31,093
Speaker 2: human that comes through.

1135
00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:32,773
Speaker 3: We've got to find those people and put them straight

1136
00:53:32,813 --> 00:53:35,133
Speaker 3: in jail. Man I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1137
00:53:35,173 --> 00:53:36,373
Speaker 3: the ninety five years.

1138
00:53:36,133 --> 00:53:38,613
Speaker 2: No parole for poor bathroom usage.

1139
00:53:38,693 --> 00:53:43,853
Speaker 3: I'm down for that. Tis number. Oh, eight hundred eighty

1140
00:53:43,893 --> 00:53:55,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty is an ubple to call twenty three pass two.

1141
00:53:51,333 --> 00:53:55,013
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1142
00:53:55,053 --> 00:53:56,933
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1143
00:53:57,053 --> 00:53:58,253
Speaker 3: Twenty five past two.

1144
00:53:58,293 --> 00:54:00,853
Speaker 2: As Kate's just ticks through on nineteen nine two. The

1145
00:54:00,893 --> 00:54:04,013
Speaker 2: word we're looking for his lavatory. That's nice lavatory. Yeah,

1146
00:54:04,053 --> 00:54:08,613
Speaker 2: I think we can all lavatory. Leavatory. Oh no, do

1147
00:54:08,693 --> 00:54:10,772
Speaker 2: you say that? I think I say leavatory, but probably wrong,

1148
00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:15,213
Speaker 2: lavatory incorrectly, Yeah, the lavatory. Can I use the lavatory?

1149
00:54:16,053 --> 00:54:18,652
Speaker 2: I use the toilet, the Texas says, and I'm too.

1150
00:54:18,733 --> 00:54:20,533
Speaker 2: I use the toilet at BP a couple of times

1151
00:54:20,533 --> 00:54:23,533
Speaker 2: a week. Always feel obligated to browse the lollies after

1152
00:54:23,813 --> 00:54:26,172
Speaker 2: to show intent to buy, then walk out, avoiding eye

1153
00:54:26,213 --> 00:54:29,093
Speaker 2: contact with anyone. Haven't been hit up yet. So he's

1154
00:54:29,093 --> 00:54:31,413
Speaker 2: doing a whole he's doing the whole song and dance theer,

1155
00:54:31,453 --> 00:54:33,253
Speaker 2: he's used the lever, he's looking at the lollies, and

1156
00:54:33,253 --> 00:54:36,133
Speaker 2: then when someone's not looking, he gets out of there.

1157
00:54:36,213 --> 00:54:40,453
Speaker 3: Genius. Love that strategy and this texture from dpet Get

1158
00:54:40,493 --> 00:54:44,453
Speaker 3: a team. Regarding the loop, I think number two a no,

1159
00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:48,973
Speaker 3: but number one is okay, especially if you do pay

1160
00:54:49,013 --> 00:54:52,733
Speaker 3: some money there. I use, for example, the cream Cafe

1161
00:54:52,813 --> 00:54:55,493
Speaker 3: Loof for number one is Rebel Sport is next door,

1162
00:54:56,013 --> 00:54:59,813
Speaker 3: and I purchased there. However, if I need to go

1163
00:54:59,933 --> 00:55:01,893
Speaker 3: number two, then Rebel Sport is good to go.

1164
00:55:03,013 --> 00:55:08,853
Speaker 2: Rebels feel about that. So if it's a multi national,

1165
00:55:08,893 --> 00:55:10,973
Speaker 2: then they've got money to run the toilets. I don't

1166
00:55:10,973 --> 00:55:13,253
Speaker 2: know if Rebel Sports most multinational. I think they're part

1167
00:55:13,293 --> 00:55:16,053
Speaker 2: of the Briscos group, aren't they They are, but yeah,

1168
00:55:16,133 --> 00:55:18,573
Speaker 2: they're big enough company. But I mean, if you're running it,

1169
00:55:19,173 --> 00:55:22,093
Speaker 2: if you're running an establishment, then how do you know

1170
00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:24,453
Speaker 2: what whether someone's going in for a one or two

1171
00:55:24,493 --> 00:55:28,172
Speaker 2: before they go on, Because someone could swear swear they're

1172
00:55:28,173 --> 00:55:29,693
Speaker 2: going in for a number one and then upgrade to

1173
00:55:29,733 --> 00:55:30,813
Speaker 2: a number two when they get in there.

1174
00:55:30,853 --> 00:55:32,453
Speaker 3: Easy to do, very easy to do.

1175
00:55:32,533 --> 00:55:34,373
Speaker 2: That might happen to you, you know. And let's not

1176
00:55:34,413 --> 00:55:37,933
Speaker 2: get into the topic of on a plane. Yes, when

1177
00:55:38,613 --> 00:55:40,693
Speaker 2: when you go up the front on the plane.

1178
00:55:40,453 --> 00:55:43,093
Speaker 3: If it's domestic, just you know, hold it in, hold it.

1179
00:55:43,133 --> 00:55:45,453
Speaker 2: But sometimes you can't. I think none of these rules

1180
00:55:45,493 --> 00:55:47,652
Speaker 2: apply to a pregnant woman. A pregnant woman can do

1181
00:55:47,653 --> 00:55:48,053
Speaker 2: what if you.

1182
00:55:47,973 --> 00:55:52,413
Speaker 3: Want elderly child, pregnant woman, get a past. You can

1183
00:55:52,453 --> 00:55:53,053
Speaker 3: do what you want.

1184
00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:54,533
Speaker 2: Well, keep still, keep it clean.

1185
00:55:55,253 --> 00:55:59,813
Speaker 3: Tie, How are you hello toist me?

1186
00:55:59,893 --> 00:56:00,053
Speaker 19: Now?

1187
00:56:00,293 --> 00:56:03,453
Speaker 23: Yes, yes, I was going to say when I was

1188
00:56:03,493 --> 00:56:06,493
Speaker 23: in Holland years ago, a few years ago now, not

1189
00:56:07,173 --> 00:56:11,733
Speaker 23: about ten, that a law had been passed. Well, my

1190
00:56:11,773 --> 00:56:14,213
Speaker 23: friend told me that a law had been passed in

1191
00:56:14,333 --> 00:56:18,173
Speaker 23: Holland that said every business had to let people go

1192
00:56:18,293 --> 00:56:21,053
Speaker 23: to the toilet because it was so much of this

1193
00:56:21,173 --> 00:56:24,373
Speaker 23: business of having to buy something and go, and people

1194
00:56:24,413 --> 00:56:27,853
Speaker 23: were embarrassed getting told of so they made this law.

1195
00:56:28,413 --> 00:56:32,173
Speaker 23: But it was what people did, especially a bigger business.

1196
00:56:32,573 --> 00:56:36,413
Speaker 23: They made the toilet a separate business and had somebody

1197
00:56:36,453 --> 00:56:39,293
Speaker 23: in there cleaning them. And then you had to pay.

1198
00:56:40,373 --> 00:56:42,813
Speaker 23: So we always went around with a jingle of coins.

1199
00:56:42,853 --> 00:56:45,253
Speaker 23: I can't remember how much it was to go, but

1200
00:56:45,413 --> 00:56:47,373
Speaker 23: a lot of them had done that, and I would say,

1201
00:56:47,373 --> 00:56:51,373
Speaker 23: by now they've all done that. Even McDonald's and even

1202
00:56:51,813 --> 00:56:54,652
Speaker 23: a bar with a restaurant they had the same thing.

1203
00:56:54,773 --> 00:56:58,373
Speaker 2: And yeah, I tell you what's really uncomfortable, as in

1204
00:56:58,413 --> 00:57:01,053
Speaker 2: the United States and in some places in the UK

1205
00:57:01,053 --> 00:57:03,173
Speaker 2: and Europe where you go and there's the bathroom attendant

1206
00:57:03,173 --> 00:57:05,093
Speaker 2: in there and they had you at the hand you

1207
00:57:05,173 --> 00:57:06,973
Speaker 2: a towel and the hand you a bunch of stuff

1208
00:57:07,013 --> 00:57:09,253
Speaker 2: and they sort of hang around in there and you're

1209
00:57:09,253 --> 00:57:10,093
Speaker 2: supposed to tip.

1210
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:13,933
Speaker 3: Them, have some stories to tell those guys.

1211
00:57:14,533 --> 00:57:17,933
Speaker 2: It's just it's just awkward. It's awkward having the guy

1212
00:57:17,973 --> 00:57:19,373
Speaker 2: in there and then you tip them a dollar for

1213
00:57:19,733 --> 00:57:21,893
Speaker 2: fresh house and you're like, mate, I've done this plenty

1214
00:57:21,933 --> 00:57:26,213
Speaker 2: of times on my own without any help. I haven't

1215
00:57:26,213 --> 00:57:28,053
Speaker 2: needed help since so I was a little wee boy

1216
00:57:28,333 --> 00:57:32,453
Speaker 2: and my mum used to help me. But yeah, I mean,

1217
00:57:33,893 --> 00:57:35,773
Speaker 2: I guess there'd be a lot of if McDonald's and

1218
00:57:35,773 --> 00:57:38,613
Speaker 2: New Zealand started charging people to go, that would be interesting.

1219
00:57:39,533 --> 00:57:42,453
Speaker 23: Well they would have. They would have had a cleaner there. Yeah,

1220
00:57:42,693 --> 00:57:48,773
Speaker 23: clean them and that will happen start happening everywhere if

1221
00:57:48,893 --> 00:57:52,333
Speaker 23: this keeps happening and they wall in Colin. They made

1222
00:57:52,373 --> 00:57:54,333
Speaker 23: it a law that every business had.

1223
00:57:54,173 --> 00:57:55,053
Speaker 21: To let you go to the.

1224
00:57:56,253 --> 00:57:58,613
Speaker 23: That's what they did. They set up a business and

1225
00:57:59,253 --> 00:58:00,133
Speaker 23: some stations.

1226
00:58:00,373 --> 00:58:02,333
Speaker 2: There's some service stations in New Zealand where you stop

1227
00:58:02,333 --> 00:58:03,893
Speaker 2: and you get the big comedy the key with the

1228
00:58:03,893 --> 00:58:05,853
Speaker 2: big comedy thing attached to it, so you can't steal

1229
00:58:05,853 --> 00:58:07,773
Speaker 2: the key and you go in there and there's definitely

1230
00:58:07,813 --> 00:58:10,173
Speaker 2: no one cleaning those ones. No, there's a number where

1231
00:58:10,173 --> 00:58:12,373
Speaker 2: you you go into a horror show.

1232
00:58:12,893 --> 00:58:15,613
Speaker 3: You know, there's no placard on the door saying how

1233
00:58:15,653 --> 00:58:17,613
Speaker 3: are our toilets? Give us a buzz in Corporate on

1234
00:58:17,813 --> 00:58:18,333
Speaker 3: eight hundred.

1235
00:58:20,253 --> 00:58:23,253
Speaker 23: But you know it may change that I was telling

1236
00:58:23,253 --> 00:58:26,933
Speaker 23: you about because because just listening to you, it is

1237
00:58:26,973 --> 00:58:29,533
Speaker 23: the same as us. I can remember driving alone. I

1238
00:58:29,613 --> 00:58:32,693
Speaker 23: think I've just got over loo and hopping into McDonald's

1239
00:58:32,813 --> 00:58:33,413
Speaker 23: or somewhere.

1240
00:58:33,493 --> 00:58:33,733
Speaker 1: You know.

1241
00:58:33,813 --> 00:58:36,973
Speaker 23: But if you yelled at to something you feel so embarrassed.

1242
00:58:37,653 --> 00:58:39,933
Speaker 23: If there is a proper toilet that you pay for

1243
00:58:40,533 --> 00:58:41,693
Speaker 23: and it's clean.

1244
00:58:42,653 --> 00:58:45,413
Speaker 2: Happy to pay. I'd be happy to pay for something clean. Hey,

1245
00:58:45,453 --> 00:58:49,213
Speaker 2: thanks so much for you called die. There's a great

1246
00:58:49,453 --> 00:58:51,493
Speaker 2: piece of comedy that's doing the rounds now for an

1247
00:58:51,493 --> 00:58:54,493
Speaker 2: Irish television show. Comedy show. I'm not sure what the

1248
00:58:54,493 --> 00:58:57,693
Speaker 2: show was, but it's some people, some friends going on

1249
00:58:57,733 --> 00:59:00,893
Speaker 2: a road trip and how am I going to explain

1250
00:59:00,933 --> 00:59:06,933
Speaker 2: this anyway? They talked that it can't be by the stopping,

1251
00:59:06,973 --> 00:59:08,413
Speaker 2: so that they say to the guy just going in

1252
00:59:08,453 --> 00:59:10,973
Speaker 2: a bottle, just go on the bottle and be fun.

1253
00:59:11,013 --> 00:59:13,453
Speaker 2: It'll be fun anyway. The punchline's great. Look it up, okay,

1254
00:59:13,733 --> 00:59:17,093
Speaker 2: so touch it up on YouTube. It's a funny joke

1255
00:59:17,093 --> 00:59:18,973
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna explain it on Can we be

1256
00:59:19,013 --> 00:59:22,733
Speaker 2: making never hear no, no, no, they'll be tony complaints,

1257
00:59:22,773 --> 00:59:24,373
Speaker 2: all right. You just have to take my word for

1258
00:59:24,373 --> 00:59:25,013
Speaker 2: it's very funny.

1259
00:59:25,013 --> 00:59:26,573
Speaker 3: I'm going to look it up right now. Oh, one

1260
00:59:26,693 --> 00:59:28,653
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to call though.

1261
00:59:28,733 --> 00:59:31,093
Speaker 3: If you've got a business, do you let customers use

1262
00:59:31,133 --> 00:59:34,173
Speaker 3: your bathroom without paying for your product? Love to hear

1263
00:59:34,173 --> 00:59:36,053
Speaker 3: from you. Nine two nine tools the text number as well,

1264
00:59:36,053 --> 00:59:37,053
Speaker 3: it's twenty nine to three.

1265
00:59:40,133 --> 00:59:43,573
Speaker 13: You talk, said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1266
00:59:43,653 --> 00:59:46,893
Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Economic Growth Minister

1267
00:59:46,973 --> 00:59:50,653
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1268
00:59:50,733 --> 00:59:53,973
Speaker 13: with a New Zealand for an overseas employer from today.

1269
00:59:54,773 --> 00:59:57,893
Speaker 13: A supporter says the Treaty Principles Bill would give New

1270
00:59:57,973 --> 01:00:01,533
Speaker 13: Zealand it certainty because questions about how the Treaty is

1271
01:00:01,573 --> 01:00:05,133
Speaker 13: interpreted aren't going to go away. People are making oral

1272
01:00:05,173 --> 01:00:08,693
Speaker 13: submissions on the bill today to the Justice Committee. The

1273
01:00:08,733 --> 01:00:11,613
Speaker 13: Family of Manga Fi woman Tina Johnson's, so theyre grateful

1274
01:00:11,653 --> 01:00:15,053
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1275
01:00:15,173 --> 01:00:19,573
Speaker 13: tornado yesterday. It injured two people badly damaged dozens of

1276
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1277
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Speaker 13: a spot of unusual weather today, with an unseasonal snow

1278
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Speaker 13: dump at a Mount Hut ski field and a water

1279
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1280
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1281
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1283
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1286
01:00:57,053 --> 01:00:58,333
Speaker 13: Tyler Adams, thank.

1287
01:00:58,173 --> 01:01:01,573
Speaker 3: You very much, ray Leane, and we are discussing the

1288
01:01:01,693 --> 01:01:05,813
Speaker 3: use of toilets at businesses around the country. It's kicking

1289
01:01:05,813 --> 01:01:07,893
Speaker 3: off in the UK and the US where more and

1290
01:01:07,893 --> 01:01:11,533
Speaker 3: more busyusinesses are putting up signs saying no toilet for

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01:01:11,613 --> 01:01:12,613
Speaker 3: non paying customers.

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Speaker 2: And you think it's your right to use a bathroom

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01:01:15,693 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 2: on any business above a mar and par business. You've

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01:01:19,613 --> 01:01:21,933
Speaker 2: described a marn parbon. Doesn't this anything bigger than that?

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01:01:21,973 --> 01:01:24,333
Speaker 2: You say you've got a god given right to use

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01:01:24,413 --> 01:01:24,813
Speaker 2: the bathroom?

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01:01:24,933 --> 01:01:26,733
Speaker 3: Not enough of god given right. But I think it's

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01:01:26,773 --> 01:01:30,693
Speaker 3: the least the lights of McDonald's KFC bp Z could do.

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Speaker 3: Is just if I need to nip into your loo,

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01:01:33,453 --> 01:01:34,053
Speaker 3: why can't I?

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01:01:34,133 --> 01:01:36,813
Speaker 2: But it's not it's not the colonel, that's or Ronal

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01:01:36,893 --> 01:01:39,133
Speaker 2: McDonald that's out the back they're cleaning the bathrooms. It's

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01:01:39,133 --> 01:01:41,653
Speaker 2: not the heads of these companies, it's it's me. When

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01:01:41,693 --> 01:01:44,213
Speaker 2: I moved up from from Dunedin, it was it was

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01:01:44,253 --> 01:01:46,213
Speaker 2: me on a minimum wage having to clean the bathroom.

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01:01:46,213 --> 01:01:49,773
Speaker 2: When and if we could all just agree as a

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01:01:49,853 --> 01:01:53,293
Speaker 2: nation to not be disgusting pigs and public bathrooms, it

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01:01:53,333 --> 01:01:55,573
Speaker 2: would be a very different thing. But but we haven't.

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01:01:55,613 --> 01:01:58,013
Speaker 2: There seems to be some people that are intent on

1310
01:01:58,133 --> 01:02:00,013
Speaker 2: just making things disgusting.

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01:02:00,373 --> 01:02:01,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, agents of chaos?

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01:02:01,613 --> 01:02:04,493
Speaker 2: Is that a new thing? Or I don't think people

1313
01:02:04,533 --> 01:02:08,933
Speaker 2: be being disgusting in bathrooms is a new thing. Certainly

1314
01:02:09,293 --> 01:02:13,773
Speaker 2: as old as the movie train Spotting Hey that skitch

1315
01:02:14,333 --> 01:02:17,813
Speaker 2: I was talking about, look it up on YouTube. The

1316
01:02:17,893 --> 01:02:21,773
Speaker 2: lemonade sketch from Your Bad Self. It's the lemonade skitch

1317
01:02:22,293 --> 01:02:25,453
Speaker 2: your bad Self. Look it up on YouTube. Very funny.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:02:25,773 --> 01:02:30,093
Speaker 3: I watched it before well with watch hilarious glenis. How

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Speaker 3: are you the same?

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01:02:30,613 --> 01:02:31,533
Speaker 21: How are you good?

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01:02:31,653 --> 01:02:31,893
Speaker 11: Good?

1323
01:02:32,853 --> 01:02:34,893
Speaker 21: Was at a restaurant and they said you're good at both?

1324
01:02:35,053 --> 01:02:36,973
Speaker 21: I said not he them bone a copy. I want

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01:02:37,013 --> 01:02:39,933
Speaker 21: to use the toilet. Then I said, well, by the way,

1326
01:02:39,973 --> 01:02:42,733
Speaker 21: would you rather me whip my pants or miss the floor?

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01:02:42,773 --> 01:02:44,933
Speaker 21: Which one would you like? Oh no, no, you better

1328
01:02:44,973 --> 01:02:46,773
Speaker 21: go and have a go to the toilet quickly. I

1329
01:02:46,853 --> 01:02:48,613
Speaker 21: never have to pay for a coffee.

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Speaker 2: All right? So you were you were? You were basically

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01:02:51,733 --> 01:02:56,973
Speaker 2: I am coming standover technics you you basically you stood

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01:02:56,973 --> 01:02:57,293
Speaker 2: them up.

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01:02:57,493 --> 01:02:57,693
Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 21: I stood them up all right because I said, you'd

1335
01:02:59,773 --> 01:03:01,613
Speaker 21: have to clean it up, won't you? Oh no, no,

1336
01:03:01,693 --> 01:03:03,413
Speaker 21: go to the toilet. We don't want to miss on

1337
01:03:03,453 --> 01:03:04,493
Speaker 21: the floor, did you?

1338
01:03:04,213 --> 01:03:05,973
Speaker 2: But but afterwards you did the right thing and you

1339
01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:07,933
Speaker 2: brought something from the digit Yeah.

1340
01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:11,413
Speaker 21: I said, well, now I can have a coffee because

1341
01:03:11,453 --> 01:03:12,013
Speaker 21: I've used.

1342
01:03:11,853 --> 01:03:12,213
Speaker 5: To do it.

1343
01:03:12,613 --> 01:03:13,973
Speaker 2: I wonder if that would work for me, if I

1344
01:03:14,093 --> 01:03:16,013
Speaker 2: if I just walked in somewhere and see it. Either

1345
01:03:16,413 --> 01:03:18,213
Speaker 2: you open up the toilet or I'm going to make

1346
01:03:18,213 --> 01:03:21,333
Speaker 2: a mess here. I don't know if it would wink

1347
01:03:21,413 --> 01:03:21,653
Speaker 2: for me.

1348
01:03:21,613 --> 01:03:24,013
Speaker 21: Because they'd have to clean it up, wouldn't they.

1349
01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:26,973
Speaker 3: It's a bold strategy on us. I'm sure it would work.

1350
01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:30,413
Speaker 3: But whether I'd feel good about doing that as a different.

1351
01:03:30,533 --> 01:03:32,493
Speaker 2: Just rocking in the door and threatening someone it might

1352
01:03:32,533 --> 01:03:33,813
Speaker 2: be might be beyond.

1353
01:03:33,493 --> 01:03:35,253
Speaker 4: My note my moral.

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01:03:36,053 --> 01:03:36,973
Speaker 21: I don't muck around.

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01:03:38,493 --> 01:03:41,853
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for your call. Glenis so she's she'll,

1356
01:03:41,893 --> 01:03:44,693
Speaker 2: she'll just she'll stand you up. She's like the Mafia

1357
01:03:44,813 --> 01:03:47,973
Speaker 2: of bathroom uses standover tech. Maybe something bad will happen

1358
01:03:48,413 --> 01:03:50,093
Speaker 2: if I don't use the bathroom. If you don't let

1359
01:03:50,133 --> 01:03:52,413
Speaker 2: me use the bathroom, maybe something little band will happen

1360
01:03:52,613 --> 01:03:54,693
Speaker 2: if I use the bathroom. Everything's okay.

1361
01:03:54,933 --> 01:03:58,213
Speaker 3: You don't want to see me back here again? Eighty

1362
01:03:58,293 --> 01:04:01,413
Speaker 3: is the number to call. This text is pretty angry

1363
01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:03,933
Speaker 3: with me. Oh my god, seriously, Tyler, very clearly, you

1364
01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:07,093
Speaker 3: have never run a retail business or I had to

1365
01:04:07,133 --> 01:04:10,893
Speaker 3: clean a public toilet. The public, as Matt mentioned, can

1366
01:04:10,973 --> 01:04:14,013
Speaker 3: be ever so disgusting. Unless you've done it, you should

1367
01:04:14,013 --> 01:04:14,773
Speaker 3: have no say.

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01:04:14,933 --> 01:04:18,253
Speaker 2: Who are the people that are so disgusting in bathrooms

1369
01:04:18,933 --> 01:04:22,653
Speaker 2: because they're just walking amongst us. There are people, and

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01:04:22,693 --> 01:04:28,333
Speaker 2: there must be some kind of I don't know, thrill

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01:04:28,413 --> 01:04:30,733
Speaker 2: to it or something. Because it's very easy to use

1372
01:04:30,773 --> 01:04:32,533
Speaker 2: a bathroom. Yeah, it's one of the easiest things in

1373
01:04:32,573 --> 01:04:35,773
Speaker 2: the world. They're very user friendly. You can sit down.

1374
01:04:36,253 --> 01:04:39,093
Speaker 2: If your AIM's not good, you can sit down.

1375
01:04:38,933 --> 01:04:41,453
Speaker 3: You can most of them have brushes and there, you know.

1376
01:04:41,413 --> 01:04:43,133
Speaker 2: You clean up after you. It's got a little button

1377
01:04:43,173 --> 01:04:46,333
Speaker 2: that gets rid of everything. You know. That's very simple.

1378
01:04:46,413 --> 01:04:49,653
Speaker 2: So I don't think people having accidents in bathrooms. I

1379
01:04:49,693 --> 01:04:52,773
Speaker 2: think there is a certain percentage of our population that

1380
01:04:53,013 --> 01:04:57,133
Speaker 2: are basically fecal terrorists terrorists.

1381
01:04:57,253 --> 01:04:59,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that words. Did you think an element

1382
01:05:00,013 --> 01:05:02,253
Speaker 3: is shame or do you think these are just as

1383
01:05:02,293 --> 01:05:04,093
Speaker 3: you say, fecal terrorists agents of chaos?

1384
01:05:04,133 --> 01:05:04,813
Speaker 2: What do you mean shame?

1385
01:05:05,093 --> 01:05:07,973
Speaker 3: Shame is in you know, they've they've made a mess

1386
01:05:08,373 --> 01:05:10,733
Speaker 3: and they can't live with themselves, so they have to

1387
01:05:10,853 --> 01:05:12,493
Speaker 3: run out of there as fast as possible.

1388
01:05:12,533 --> 01:05:15,133
Speaker 2: Well, you can clean up a mess. If you've seriously

1389
01:05:15,173 --> 01:05:17,733
Speaker 2: made a mess and you feel shame, then then there's

1390
01:05:17,773 --> 01:05:20,773
Speaker 2: things you can do absolutely well. I mean, I get

1391
01:05:20,813 --> 01:05:22,493
Speaker 2: into that situation where I going to bathroom and it's

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01:05:22,493 --> 01:05:24,453
Speaker 2: disgusting and is the next person. I feel like I

1393
01:05:24,533 --> 01:05:26,653
Speaker 2: have to clean things up so people don't think it's me.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it here. Yeah, it's outrageous. I can't believe

1395
01:05:29,933 --> 01:05:32,933
Speaker 3: there's so many fecal terrorists. There's fecal terroists working at Newstorgs.

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01:05:32,933 --> 01:05:34,853
Speaker 3: He'd been a lot of them apparently. Well, maybe it's

1397
01:05:34,893 --> 01:05:36,973
Speaker 3: just one who's doing the rounds. Gary, how are you

1398
01:05:37,013 --> 01:05:37,373
Speaker 3: this after?

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Speaker 8: I'm very good, thank you. I think you got no

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01:05:40,573 --> 01:05:43,613
Speaker 8: right to use a toilets. It's put it property. And

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01:05:44,013 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 8: I bet you those same people would come out and

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01:05:46,293 --> 01:05:48,453
Speaker 8: complain about the price of food. Well, the price of

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01:05:48,493 --> 01:05:50,733
Speaker 8: food wouldn't be so expensive if I didn't have to

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01:05:51,053 --> 01:05:54,013
Speaker 8: clean the dirty toilet. Think some of the things that

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01:05:54,053 --> 01:05:54,973
Speaker 8: are about today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well hand up, Gary. I mean, as soon as

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01:05:57,333 --> 01:05:59,893
Speaker 3: Matt said that he's been in a job where one

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01:05:59,933 --> 01:06:02,373
Speaker 3: of his roles was cleaning the public toilet, I'd instantly

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01:06:02,413 --> 01:06:04,093
Speaker 3: lost the argument at that point, because I've had some

1410
01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:06,453
Speaker 3: dirty jobs in my time, but never done that. And

1411
01:06:06,493 --> 01:06:10,293
Speaker 3: I accept wholehearted that if you've been had a job

1412
01:06:10,453 --> 01:06:12,773
Speaker 3: like that and the things that you've seen, you change

1413
01:06:12,813 --> 01:06:16,293
Speaker 3: your well, actually your starts will be pretty strong that

1414
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:19,133
Speaker 3: unless you actually buy something from the business and you

1415
01:06:19,253 --> 01:06:20,933
Speaker 3: come in here and you make the mess that you do,

1416
01:06:21,013 --> 01:06:23,573
Speaker 3: you've got no right just coming in for a sneaky

1417
01:06:23,653 --> 01:06:24,333
Speaker 3: number one or two.

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01:06:25,093 --> 01:06:27,813
Speaker 8: That's right, and I and I also think it's about

1419
01:06:27,893 --> 01:06:31,173
Speaker 8: time some of these councils stood up. They got thousands

1420
01:06:31,253 --> 01:06:35,173
Speaker 8: of dollars to spend on these flash toilets for tourists.

1421
01:06:35,173 --> 01:06:37,333
Speaker 8: What about the locals. They're the ones that are playing

1422
01:06:37,333 --> 01:06:37,693
Speaker 8: the raid.

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01:06:38,173 --> 01:06:39,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1424
01:06:39,613 --> 01:06:42,173
Speaker 8: Amount of shops that are in a certain area they

1425
01:06:42,173 --> 01:06:43,333
Speaker 8: should be public toilets.

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01:06:43,613 --> 01:06:47,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're removing they're not even providing rubbishpins

1427
01:06:47,893 --> 01:06:49,533
Speaker 2: and a lot of towns now as we talked last

1428
01:06:49,573 --> 01:06:52,773
Speaker 2: week and brought through the rubbish puns. But I think,

1429
01:06:52,813 --> 01:06:54,853
Speaker 2: I think if you want to make a place nicer,

1430
01:06:55,373 --> 01:06:57,853
Speaker 2: you know, then you want to have public toilets and

1431
01:06:58,893 --> 01:07:03,973
Speaker 2: a regular area. Regular what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, once

1432
01:07:04,493 --> 01:07:07,253
Speaker 2: kill through the town. Yeah, it's not the shopkeeper's job.

1433
01:07:08,453 --> 01:07:09,213
Speaker 8: The hygiene.

1434
01:07:09,933 --> 01:07:13,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. When they started bringing in garyot was

1435
01:07:13,533 --> 01:07:15,653
Speaker 3: and not all councils have done it, but there was

1436
01:07:15,693 --> 01:07:17,773
Speaker 3: a time they started to bring in those toilets that

1437
01:07:17,893 --> 01:07:21,173
Speaker 3: had music that played that the doors automatically locked. I

1438
01:07:21,173 --> 01:07:22,973
Speaker 3: mean they were a nice place to be, weren't they.

1439
01:07:23,133 --> 01:07:26,853
Speaker 3: But I think, like many things in this country, the

1440
01:07:26,973 --> 01:07:30,133
Speaker 3: fecal terrorists came in and absolutely ruined it for everybody.

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01:07:30,733 --> 01:07:33,573
Speaker 8: But they were three to twenty thousand dollars fifty zerousand

1442
01:07:33,613 --> 01:07:37,093
Speaker 8: dollars for a bloody toilet. Yeah, you know we don't

1443
01:07:37,133 --> 01:07:37,493
Speaker 8: need that.

1444
01:07:37,773 --> 01:07:40,813
Speaker 3: No, Gary, thank you very much. Oh eight one hundred

1445
01:07:40,813 --> 01:07:42,853
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Some

1446
01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,533
Speaker 3: good teachs coming through on nine two nine two as well.

1447
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Speaker 3: We'll get to some of those very shortly. It is

1448
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Speaker 3: nineteen to three.

1449
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Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon talk, Matt and Taylor afternoons

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Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into something special.

1451
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1452
01:08:01,253 --> 01:08:05,333
Speaker 3: They'd be sixteen to three and great teas coming through

1453
01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:05,733
Speaker 3: on this we have.

1454
01:08:05,773 --> 01:08:07,453
Speaker 2: The tester said, oh my god, I just watched the

1455
01:08:07,573 --> 01:08:10,373
Speaker 2: lemonade skit. It was worth missing both of your adulcet

1456
01:08:10,413 --> 01:08:12,933
Speaker 2: tones and listens, wasn't for that sixty seconds? Thank you,

1457
01:08:12,973 --> 01:08:16,412
Speaker 2: Heath much required barely laughed on. Yeah, the lemonade sketch.

1458
01:08:16,452 --> 01:08:17,532
Speaker 2: Look it up on YouTube.

1459
01:08:17,613 --> 01:08:20,373
Speaker 3: It's a great laugh. Not PC, but it is hilarious.

1460
01:08:20,813 --> 01:08:21,532
Speaker 2: It's pretty pecy.

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01:08:21,653 --> 01:08:24,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, Norm, how are you well?

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01:08:24,412 --> 01:08:26,692
Speaker 22: Yeah, well, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel

1463
01:08:26,732 --> 01:08:27,932
Speaker 22: with this topic, guys.

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01:08:28,053 --> 01:08:28,652
Speaker 2: But thanks.

1465
01:08:28,853 --> 01:08:32,213
Speaker 22: I was listening public hold. Then I had to have

1466
01:08:32,253 --> 01:08:35,372
Speaker 22: a bit of a chuckle about ancient that we had

1467
01:08:36,053 --> 01:08:38,293
Speaker 22: where we had actually been someone from coming in and

1468
01:08:38,412 --> 01:08:41,412
Speaker 22: using our toilets, because they just got into a habit

1469
01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:44,933
Speaker 22: of using them, and it's a pretty awkward conversation to

1470
01:08:44,973 --> 01:08:47,412
Speaker 22: have to be fair, Yeah, how.

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Speaker 2: Did you address it?

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01:08:48,333 --> 01:08:49,492
Speaker 9: Norm?

1473
01:08:49,732 --> 01:08:49,892
Speaker 11: Oh?

1474
01:08:49,973 --> 01:08:53,253
Speaker 22: Well, I work in a rural sort of business, and

1475
01:08:53,612 --> 01:08:55,892
Speaker 22: old farmers when they come to town, they just get into

1476
01:08:55,893 --> 01:08:57,452
Speaker 22: a bit of a habit of coming for a bit

1477
01:08:57,452 --> 01:09:00,972
Speaker 22: of a wander around. And this guy, he just decided

1478
01:09:01,013 --> 01:09:05,173
Speaker 22: to use our backstore toilet as part of his regular

1479
01:09:06,173 --> 01:09:10,532
Speaker 22: morning walk and and to be honest, sometimes he left

1480
01:09:10,532 --> 01:09:13,692
Speaker 22: a fair calling card and the staff, well, we come

1481
01:09:13,732 --> 01:09:16,892
Speaker 22: and do and for some baggers to go and have

1482
01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:19,972
Speaker 22: a fatherly conversation with this old guy to say, look,

1483
01:09:20,133 --> 01:09:21,973
Speaker 22: if you're going to drop a load somewhere, do it

1484
01:09:22,013 --> 01:09:22,892
Speaker 22: somewhere else please.

1485
01:09:25,093 --> 01:09:26,132
Speaker 2: Was he ever buying anything?

1486
01:09:27,293 --> 01:09:29,492
Speaker 22: No, he was past. He was sort of retired, so.

1487
01:09:29,652 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 2: You know, m and what did he say, what did

1488
01:09:32,492 --> 01:09:34,532
Speaker 2: he what did he say to this friendly word that

1489
01:09:35,053 --> 01:09:35,933
Speaker 2: you can't be doing this?

1490
01:09:37,812 --> 01:09:40,213
Speaker 22: Ah, well he wasn't. It was a bit of a

1491
01:09:40,213 --> 01:09:41,973
Speaker 22: special guy as well. So I think it was the

1492
01:09:41,973 --> 01:09:45,012
Speaker 22: first time we've been being from using the old toilets

1493
01:09:45,013 --> 01:09:48,452
Speaker 22: around the district. So it was just okay, well we

1494
01:09:48,612 --> 01:09:50,532
Speaker 22: just wanted rid of him, and he took it on.

1495
01:09:51,492 --> 01:09:54,972
Speaker 22: But yeah, it was, it was. It was very good

1496
01:09:55,013 --> 01:09:56,612
Speaker 22: when he didn't dark in the doorways.

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01:09:58,692 --> 01:10:02,253
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, and you you're working day, it's

1498
01:10:02,253 --> 01:10:06,093
Speaker 2: it's it's it's bad for the for for morale if

1499
01:10:06,093 --> 01:10:08,293
Speaker 2: you have to clean up some farm.

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01:10:08,853 --> 01:10:12,053
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. And I mean at

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01:10:12,173 --> 01:10:13,772
Speaker 22: least at least keep it in the house if there's

1502
01:10:13,812 --> 01:10:16,892
Speaker 22: going to be some some lingering pongs, not somebody who's

1503
01:10:16,893 --> 01:10:17,772
Speaker 22: coming in off the street.

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01:10:18,093 --> 01:10:18,692
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1505
01:10:18,933 --> 01:10:21,093
Speaker 3: And in a small place, in a small place, I'm

1506
01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:22,812
Speaker 3: sure he didn't want it to go any further than that.

1507
01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:25,213
Speaker 3: So quite rightly he said, yep, forear cop, you won't

1508
01:10:25,213 --> 01:10:25,772
Speaker 3: see me again.

1509
01:10:26,013 --> 01:10:28,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he started terrorizing someone else's bathroom a couple

1510
01:10:28,973 --> 01:10:29,572
Speaker 2: of stores down.

1511
01:10:30,572 --> 01:10:35,452
Speaker 22: Absolutely, and good luck to them too. Love love the topic.

1512
01:10:35,812 --> 01:10:39,412
Speaker 22: I think one for another day is you know there's

1513
01:10:39,412 --> 01:10:43,092
Speaker 22: people that don't go anywhere apart from home and yeah,

1514
01:10:43,173 --> 01:10:45,253
Speaker 22: and you know they can spend three or four days

1515
01:10:45,253 --> 01:10:48,612
Speaker 22: away from home, and I think that's another another hole

1516
01:10:49,732 --> 01:10:50,412
Speaker 22: discipline an.

1517
01:10:51,293 --> 01:10:52,973
Speaker 2: I know people in that camp. Hey, thank you so

1518
01:10:53,093 --> 01:10:54,772
Speaker 2: much for you call Norm. You have a great day.

1519
01:10:55,853 --> 01:10:58,972
Speaker 3: Mark. You run a petrol stacey here perfect, How are

1520
01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:00,652
Speaker 3: you hi?

1521
01:11:00,692 --> 01:11:04,452
Speaker 9: They're doing fine. Tanks. Just wanted to point a couple

1522
01:11:04,412 --> 01:11:08,053
Speaker 9: of things out. People may not be taking into account. Yes,

1523
01:11:08,372 --> 01:11:12,572
Speaker 9: small establishment, whether it's petrol station, takeaway lunch for our

1524
01:11:12,612 --> 01:11:15,652
Speaker 9: convenience or whatever, if they just put if they're able

1525
01:11:15,933 --> 01:11:21,133
Speaker 9: legally to just put in a single unisex stall, you

1526
01:11:21,253 --> 01:11:25,173
Speaker 9: got the toilet, the hand sink, the ventilation lighting, et cetera.

1527
01:11:26,253 --> 01:11:29,732
Speaker 9: It takes at least ten square meters. Now you got

1528
01:11:29,732 --> 01:11:32,892
Speaker 9: to pay rent on that. And if you're getting like

1529
01:11:32,933 --> 01:11:36,012
Speaker 9: one hundred or ann twenty square meters store or something

1530
01:11:36,492 --> 01:11:40,412
Speaker 9: that's close to ten percent of your rent is going

1531
01:11:40,452 --> 01:11:43,612
Speaker 9: into a small bathroom, Oh you've got a bigger fit.

1532
01:11:44,612 --> 01:11:46,652
Speaker 2: You know, you can tell you that. That's an interesting point.

1533
01:11:46,812 --> 01:11:48,412
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that. But if you run a

1534
01:11:48,452 --> 01:11:52,372
Speaker 2: service station. Don't people expect that?

1535
01:11:54,732 --> 01:11:58,612
Speaker 9: Well, possibly, but it gets worse. Let's say that you

1536
01:11:58,692 --> 01:12:02,092
Speaker 9: have to have a men's and women's and probably upgrade

1537
01:12:02,173 --> 01:12:04,812
Speaker 9: them to handicap and then you could be looking at

1538
01:12:04,812 --> 01:12:07,572
Speaker 9: thirty or forty square meters that you have to pay

1539
01:12:07,572 --> 01:12:11,293
Speaker 9: rent on. Yes, people expect it. They take it for granted.

1540
01:12:11,933 --> 01:12:15,293
Speaker 9: They take for grinted that the shopkeeper is having to

1541
01:12:15,372 --> 01:12:21,093
Speaker 9: pay ten fifty twenty thousand dollars a year for the

1542
01:12:21,253 --> 01:12:24,852
Speaker 9: space that the toilet's taking up. In addition to that,

1543
01:12:25,293 --> 01:12:26,973
Speaker 9: if you've just got a showroom and you put some

1544
01:12:27,093 --> 01:12:30,852
Speaker 9: shelves in it, that's your cheap space. Anytime you have

1545
01:12:30,893 --> 01:12:35,652
Speaker 9: to put in plumbing, lighting, ventilation, that's your expensive space,

1546
01:12:35,772 --> 01:12:38,293
Speaker 9: your cost per square meter when you put in the

1547
01:12:38,333 --> 01:12:40,972
Speaker 9: toilets and sinks and ventilation all it's the same as

1548
01:12:40,973 --> 01:12:45,253
Speaker 9: a kitchen. That's your most expensive space, all the stuff.

1549
01:12:45,732 --> 01:12:49,612
Speaker 9: So your initial capital costs are high. You have the

1550
01:12:49,772 --> 01:12:53,012
Speaker 9: high annual rent, and people expect you to let them

1551
01:12:53,173 --> 01:12:55,852
Speaker 9: use it for free. And then they come in like

1552
01:12:55,933 --> 01:12:58,932
Speaker 9: in our petrol station, and when we have to clean it,

1553
01:12:58,973 --> 01:13:02,893
Speaker 9: we find hypodermic needles. You have to be careful for

1554
01:13:03,093 --> 01:13:07,213
Speaker 9: ourselves and we find people at a wipe excrement on

1555
01:13:07,333 --> 01:13:11,053
Speaker 9: the wall. Those who go on they don't know how

1556
01:13:11,093 --> 01:13:14,532
Speaker 9: to lift the seat and and show the urinate through

1557
01:13:14,572 --> 01:13:17,333
Speaker 9: the seat. And then the next person comes in and

1558
01:13:17,452 --> 01:13:20,892
Speaker 9: finds you urine covered. It's discus person.

1559
01:13:23,612 --> 01:13:26,213
Speaker 2: There's bad people that don't know. But you you run

1560
01:13:26,412 --> 01:13:28,692
Speaker 2: a petrol station, do you, Mark?

1561
01:13:30,452 --> 01:13:30,732
Speaker 9: Yes?

1562
01:13:30,853 --> 01:13:33,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and but you do surprise you and you

1563
01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:36,532
Speaker 2: do provide the bathroom the facilities.

1564
01:13:37,093 --> 01:13:37,692
Speaker 9: We used to.

1565
01:13:38,572 --> 01:13:44,133
Speaker 2: You've stopped customers like you stuck like so, not even

1566
01:13:44,372 --> 01:13:45,813
Speaker 2: even for paying customers.

1567
01:13:47,133 --> 01:13:51,253
Speaker 9: We we we do paying customers only and discouraged that.

1568
01:13:51,692 --> 01:13:53,732
Speaker 2: I feel I think that's fair enough. I think it's

1569
01:13:53,732 --> 01:13:56,133
Speaker 2: fair enough that that that it's only paying customers you

1570
01:13:56,173 --> 01:14:00,173
Speaker 2: don't know, just anyone that's driving past to use your facilities.

1571
01:14:00,532 --> 01:14:02,892
Speaker 3: You've smashed me in the face with absolute logic. Mark,

1572
01:14:02,933 --> 01:14:06,173
Speaker 3: and I I'm flip flopping here. You're bang on.

1573
01:14:06,213 --> 01:14:07,892
Speaker 2: Hey, Mark, I've got a question for you, though. Where's

1574
01:14:07,893 --> 01:14:10,372
Speaker 2: your ex from?

1575
01:14:10,452 --> 01:14:11,533
Speaker 4: What's your Colorado?

1576
01:14:12,412 --> 01:14:12,532
Speaker 8: Oh?

1577
01:14:12,532 --> 01:14:15,012
Speaker 2: It's it's a beautiful accent, a beautiful way of telling

1578
01:14:15,013 --> 01:14:18,492
Speaker 2: a story, even the disgusting story your sharing sounded beautiful

1579
01:14:18,532 --> 01:14:19,932
Speaker 2: in your oaky tones.

1580
01:14:22,053 --> 01:14:24,012
Speaker 9: It helps pick up girls, keep in the accent.

1581
01:14:25,333 --> 01:14:27,772
Speaker 2: Does I think I believe most things you told me

1582
01:14:27,812 --> 01:14:31,572
Speaker 2: at that excent? There's a wisdom to it. You sound wise.

1583
01:14:31,612 --> 01:14:32,253
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call.

1584
01:14:32,333 --> 01:14:36,052
Speaker 3: Matt cheers Mark. Well, yeah, okay, I started off this conversation.

1585
01:14:36,133 --> 01:14:38,173
Speaker 3: We've got time for another few phone calls. But I

1586
01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:40,572
Speaker 3: think Mark said it very well that one. It cost

1587
01:14:40,612 --> 01:14:42,852
Speaker 3: them what upwards of twenty thousand dollars a year to

1588
01:14:42,893 --> 01:14:43,532
Speaker 3: run a toilet.

1589
01:14:43,612 --> 01:14:45,772
Speaker 2: Well, he's thought about that. It's ten percent of your rent,

1590
01:14:46,173 --> 01:14:48,372
Speaker 2: is you know your floor space is running our bathroom?

1591
01:14:48,452 --> 01:14:50,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just buy something from the facilitation.

1592
01:14:50,732 --> 01:14:52,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, bathe Oh.

1593
01:14:52,812 --> 01:14:55,133
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty, ten eighty is the number to call.

1594
01:14:55,213 --> 01:14:56,612
Speaker 3: It is nine to three.

1595
01:14:58,093 --> 01:15:00,492
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1596
01:15:00,572 --> 01:15:01,173
Speaker 4: along the way.

1597
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:05,333
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC eighty Innovation,

1598
01:15:05,532 --> 01:15:06,572
Speaker 1: style and design.

1599
01:15:06,732 --> 01:15:08,532
Speaker 4: Have it all us talk, said.

1600
01:15:10,612 --> 01:15:13,812
Speaker 3: New Storks B six to three. A lot of takes

1601
01:15:13,853 --> 01:15:16,772
Speaker 3: coming through about the sketch that you mentioned. The people

1602
01:15:16,772 --> 01:15:17,372
Speaker 3: that are loving it.

1603
01:15:17,532 --> 01:15:20,412
Speaker 2: The lemonade sketch, Yeah, very popular. Look it up on YouTube.

1604
01:15:20,973 --> 01:15:23,013
Speaker 2: It's sort of uprating in the realm. That of what

1605
01:15:23,213 --> 01:15:25,172
Speaker 2: we're discussing today.

1606
01:15:25,213 --> 01:15:26,692
Speaker 3: Angelo, how are you this afternoon.

1607
01:15:27,933 --> 01:15:32,052
Speaker 19: Well, guys, I love the topic unusual topics. It's normally

1608
01:15:32,093 --> 01:15:35,973
Speaker 19: something that people go on to talk about things, and

1609
01:15:36,013 --> 01:15:38,372
Speaker 19: I like the phrasing the fecal terror.

1610
01:15:39,093 --> 01:15:39,452
Speaker 13: I think.

1611
01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:43,652
Speaker 19: So Look, I just wanted to just agree the previous caller,

1612
01:15:44,133 --> 01:15:46,852
Speaker 19: I one hundred percent in agreement, was that if you

1613
01:15:46,853 --> 01:15:49,253
Speaker 19: want to use an establishment facilities, you should have the

1614
01:15:49,293 --> 01:15:52,052
Speaker 19: common decency to support them, whether you buy a coffee

1615
01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:55,572
Speaker 19: or a gun or a scone. And I mean the gentleman.

1616
01:15:55,612 --> 01:15:58,572
Speaker 19: They touched on a subject. I've been to toilets in

1617
01:15:58,652 --> 01:16:01,532
Speaker 19: the past, and people just have an absolute lack of respect.

1618
01:16:01,973 --> 01:16:06,052
Speaker 19: I think you mentioned instances where there was excrement rubbed

1619
01:16:06,053 --> 01:16:07,932
Speaker 19: on the walls. I've seen it all over the seats,

1620
01:16:07,973 --> 01:16:10,532
Speaker 19: and uh, you know you swear people, you know, they

1621
01:16:10,612 --> 01:16:12,412
Speaker 19: define grab it you when they're doing number two. It's

1622
01:16:12,452 --> 01:16:14,572
Speaker 19: like they've got a both in sprinkless system. That's just

1623
01:16:14,692 --> 01:16:20,333
Speaker 19: absolutely horrendous, absolutely horrendous, and that's an absolute lack of respect.

1624
01:16:20,452 --> 01:16:22,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, What do you think the

1625
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:25,092
Speaker 2: motivation is for Angela? That's what I can't understand why

1626
01:16:25,133 --> 01:16:28,213
Speaker 2: that happens and who does it? It's Yeah, I.

1627
01:16:28,692 --> 01:16:30,612
Speaker 19: Just think people, sorry to put it people do it

1628
01:16:30,652 --> 01:16:32,732
Speaker 19: for really no reason. They just do it for points

1629
01:16:32,772 --> 01:16:34,812
Speaker 19: so they can never find for their buddies and explain

1630
01:16:34,893 --> 01:16:37,333
Speaker 19: what they did. People get a kickout of sick things

1631
01:16:37,333 --> 01:16:39,532
Speaker 19: today and that society that you're loving.

1632
01:16:39,692 --> 01:16:41,333
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if my mate sat down and

1633
01:16:41,372 --> 01:16:42,612
Speaker 2: that said that, don't like.

1634
01:16:43,572 --> 01:16:47,852
Speaker 3: Go back and clean it up your dirty bugger, they wouldn't.

1635
01:16:48,133 --> 01:16:50,812
Speaker 2: It wouldn't get I'm just trying to think about the

1636
01:16:50,812 --> 01:16:52,852
Speaker 2: circle of friends that would get respect for doing that.

1637
01:16:53,933 --> 01:16:55,732
Speaker 2: If you're in a circle of friends that respect that,

1638
01:16:55,933 --> 01:16:57,572
Speaker 2: then get get get better buddies.

1639
01:16:57,732 --> 01:16:58,892
Speaker 19: No, that's nothing.

1640
01:16:58,933 --> 01:16:59,612
Speaker 8: Nothing. I want to be that.

1641
01:16:59,652 --> 01:17:01,132
Speaker 19: I wouldn't want to be in a circle of friends

1642
01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:03,372
Speaker 19: like this. But I mean, look, it's it's just it's

1643
01:17:03,452 --> 01:17:05,892
Speaker 19: just an absolute lack of respect. And like you said,

1644
01:17:05,893 --> 01:17:07,333
Speaker 19: somebody else has got to clean it up.

1645
01:17:07,652 --> 01:17:09,812
Speaker 9: The store needs to pay or the gas.

1646
01:17:09,652 --> 01:17:13,412
Speaker 19: Station needs to pay rent. There's consumable consumables toilet rolls,

1647
01:17:13,933 --> 01:17:17,612
Speaker 19: and yeah, absolute lack of respect and it just costs

1648
01:17:17,612 --> 01:17:21,932
Speaker 19: money to maintain facilities. And I think it's just goes

1649
01:17:21,973 --> 01:17:24,532
Speaker 19: without saying that. If you add a gas station, if

1650
01:17:24,572 --> 01:17:27,253
Speaker 19: you pump gas, or you buy something you buy by

1651
01:17:27,412 --> 01:17:29,652
Speaker 19: or something in a restaurant buy a coffee to support them.

1652
01:17:29,732 --> 01:17:32,892
Speaker 19: I because unfortunately somebody needs to clean it up, something

1653
01:17:32,933 --> 01:17:33,852
Speaker 19: needs to pay for it, right.

1654
01:17:35,213 --> 01:17:37,812
Speaker 2: I never would. I would never use facility as a

1655
01:17:37,853 --> 01:17:40,532
Speaker 2: place and not at least buy something. I mean, even

1656
01:17:40,572 --> 01:17:43,812
Speaker 2: if it's just five bucks, you know. Yeah, yes, it's

1657
01:17:43,853 --> 01:17:46,173
Speaker 2: just it's just respect, you know. Hey, thank you so

1658
01:17:46,253 --> 01:17:49,333
Speaker 2: much for your call. Angelo. You have a great afternoon.

1659
01:17:48,893 --> 01:17:51,532
Speaker 3: Good discussion, and you're quite right. I started this convo

1660
01:17:51,652 --> 01:17:54,253
Speaker 3: saying sometimes I'd nip into the likes of McDonald's or

1661
01:17:54,293 --> 01:17:58,412
Speaker 3: a multinational petrol station and use their loud without buying anything.

1662
01:17:58,452 --> 01:18:01,012
Speaker 3: Shame on me. Yeah, that discussion.

1663
01:18:01,173 --> 01:18:03,492
Speaker 2: Let's clean up this topic, lock the door on it,

1664
01:18:03,532 --> 01:18:03,973
Speaker 2: and move on.

1665
01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:06,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we want to talk about concert etiquettes.

1666
01:18:06,492 --> 01:18:08,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we're still on the edge round. I

1667
01:18:08,412 --> 01:18:09,812
Speaker 2: want to know what the rules are for a concert.

1668
01:18:10,053 --> 01:18:14,372
Speaker 2: I'll explain the situation before. But should you have to

1669
01:18:14,452 --> 01:18:16,093
Speaker 2: sit down at a concert or you'll have to get

1670
01:18:16,173 --> 01:18:16,732
Speaker 2: up and boogie?

1671
01:18:16,732 --> 01:18:18,052
Speaker 3: This is going to be good. Oh eight one hundred

1672
01:18:18,053 --> 01:18:19,892
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is a number to call. Three

1673
01:18:19,933 --> 01:18:23,333
Speaker 3: to three, good afternoon, nineteen past three.

1674
01:18:23,412 --> 01:18:26,532
Speaker 2: We're talking about rules at concerts and sporting venues. If

1675
01:18:26,652 --> 01:18:28,492
Speaker 2: are you supposed to sit down or you can get

1676
01:18:28,612 --> 01:18:32,892
Speaker 2: up and party and dance or celebrate a try other

1677
01:18:32,933 --> 01:18:35,133
Speaker 2: people that want to sit down, do they have that

1678
01:18:35,293 --> 01:18:38,012
Speaker 2: they have the right to tell you to sit down.

1679
01:18:38,692 --> 01:18:41,093
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of texts coming through this and

1680
01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:42,452
Speaker 2: this is on the back of me being told to

1681
01:18:42,492 --> 01:18:46,372
Speaker 2: sit down at the at the Cult Chizzle concert in

1682
01:18:46,372 --> 01:18:46,732
Speaker 2: the weekend.

1683
01:18:46,933 --> 01:18:50,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shannon say is yes, you can stand up for

1684
01:18:50,333 --> 01:18:53,253
Speaker 3: the last song and the on cause, which is effectively

1685
01:18:53,253 --> 01:18:53,972
Speaker 3: what you were doing.

1686
01:18:53,893 --> 01:18:56,932
Speaker 2: Right, I say, for the whole last ban yeap, Yeah.

1687
01:18:57,253 --> 01:19:00,013
Speaker 2: And I think it's different on those on concerts, you know,

1688
01:19:00,253 --> 01:19:03,132
Speaker 2: at vineyards and in places like the Top or Amphitheater

1689
01:19:03,173 --> 01:19:05,572
Speaker 2: where it's grass based because it is sort of a

1690
01:19:05,572 --> 01:19:07,932
Speaker 2: picnic vibe and throughout the day you have a few drinks.

1691
01:19:08,412 --> 01:19:10,892
Speaker 2: I think as the day goes on, if you're sitting down,

1692
01:19:10,933 --> 01:19:13,372
Speaker 2: you've got to accept it. Later on people are going

1693
01:19:13,452 --> 01:19:15,053
Speaker 2: to be reasonably hydrated and they're going to want to

1694
01:19:15,093 --> 01:19:15,932
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a boogie.

1695
01:19:16,013 --> 01:19:18,452
Speaker 3: Yep, hundred Hey, why would you not want to look

1696
01:19:18,492 --> 01:19:21,372
Speaker 3: at my backside? It's a beautiful what's wrong with it?

1697
01:19:22,933 --> 01:19:25,052
Speaker 3: Eighty ten eighty is the number to call get a John.

1698
01:19:26,213 --> 01:19:28,732
Speaker 3: Hello there, boys, and what's your take on this?

1699
01:19:30,253 --> 01:19:32,612
Speaker 24: Okay, So if you go to a movie, you go

1700
01:19:32,732 --> 01:19:33,533
Speaker 24: to the movie.

1701
01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:33,812
Speaker 9: To watch it.

1702
01:19:33,893 --> 01:19:36,173
Speaker 24: You expect you're going to be sitting down. You go

1703
01:19:36,253 --> 01:19:39,133
Speaker 24: to a concert, you're going there to listen to it.

1704
01:19:39,333 --> 01:19:41,092
Speaker 24: You don't need to see it. No, I'm you're sitting

1705
01:19:41,093 --> 01:19:43,532
Speaker 24: that far back that the person on front's blocking you.

1706
01:19:43,532 --> 01:19:44,772
Speaker 24: You can't see freg all.

1707
01:19:44,692 --> 01:19:47,293
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's actually a very good point. I'm not actually

1708
01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:48,652
Speaker 2: sure what they could see from there.

1709
01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:51,772
Speaker 24: But if they buy a record, if they buy a

1710
01:19:51,812 --> 01:19:53,892
Speaker 24: record an LP and put it on their record planer,

1711
01:19:53,893 --> 01:19:55,652
Speaker 24: do they sit there watching that go around and round?

1712
01:19:57,013 --> 01:19:59,213
Speaker 2: Well, I have actually done that in the past, but yeah,

1713
01:19:59,293 --> 01:20:04,372
Speaker 2: no not. I get your point. Yeah, I see.

1714
01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:06,612
Speaker 3: Something about having that, you know, dancing. I mean a

1715
01:20:06,652 --> 01:20:09,012
Speaker 3: lot like this is me if I go to concert

1716
01:20:09,093 --> 01:20:11,213
Speaker 3: and I'm a bit more reserved and I sit there

1717
01:20:11,213 --> 01:20:14,012
Speaker 3: tapping my feet feet away, thinking I wish every announce

1718
01:20:14,013 --> 01:20:15,732
Speaker 3: would jump up so I can have a boogie. Yeah,

1719
01:20:15,772 --> 01:20:18,452
Speaker 3: because I feel a bit self conscious. But I actually

1720
01:20:18,652 --> 01:20:20,732
Speaker 3: envy people like you met that saying, nah, this is

1721
01:20:20,772 --> 01:20:23,013
Speaker 3: a concert, I want to have a boggie. It's the

1722
01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:25,932
Speaker 3: last song I'm being respectful. I'm going to get amongst it.

1723
01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:28,133
Speaker 3: I take my head off to you. John, Is there

1724
01:20:28,173 --> 01:20:28,852
Speaker 3: not something about that?

1725
01:20:30,452 --> 01:20:30,652
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1726
01:20:30,732 --> 01:20:35,013
Speaker 24: Well, I've only been to one, maybe two concerts in

1727
01:20:35,053 --> 01:20:36,812
Speaker 24: my life, and I've got a bit of age behind me.

1728
01:20:37,412 --> 01:20:40,892
Speaker 24: Spresians over in Adelaide when they were touring.

1729
01:20:41,732 --> 01:20:43,293
Speaker 11: I don't know why I went.

1730
01:20:43,173 --> 01:20:48,812
Speaker 24: To see my own band in another country, but everyone

1731
01:20:48,933 --> 01:20:53,253
Speaker 24: basically were standing up. We were halfway along the stadium

1732
01:20:53,412 --> 01:20:55,492
Speaker 24: and like everyone was standing up. I don't know about

1733
01:20:55,492 --> 01:20:58,053
Speaker 24: the people right up the back, but I was a

1734
01:20:58,053 --> 01:21:00,093
Speaker 24: lot younger back then, and yeah, we just bogged away,

1735
01:21:00,213 --> 01:21:03,812
Speaker 24: but we paid the dollars to go listen and enjoy it,

1736
01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:07,293
Speaker 24: and our enjoyment was dancing with the thousands of others.

1737
01:21:08,333 --> 01:21:09,893
Speaker 2: One of the first concerts I ever went to was

1738
01:21:09,893 --> 01:21:13,013
Speaker 2: a Spliteen's concert at the Dunedin Town Hall, and I

1739
01:21:13,053 --> 01:21:15,013
Speaker 2: was just a kid. I was at primary school with

1740
01:21:15,093 --> 01:21:17,892
Speaker 2: my my little big sister took me along and even

1741
01:21:17,893 --> 01:21:19,372
Speaker 2: at that concert, I was jumping up and down on

1742
01:21:19,412 --> 01:21:20,892
Speaker 2: the seats to the point where I got my foot

1743
01:21:20,973 --> 01:21:22,973
Speaker 2: stuck in between the seat and the other thing and

1744
01:21:22,973 --> 01:21:26,372
Speaker 2: people were pushing. Nearly broke my leg. But I've been

1745
01:21:26,372 --> 01:21:30,253
Speaker 2: a recidivust jump up and down at concerts. Maybe my

1746
01:21:30,293 --> 01:21:31,213
Speaker 2: sister taught me wrong.

1747
01:21:32,333 --> 01:21:34,532
Speaker 24: Well, Splindiens is not a band that you can actually

1748
01:21:34,652 --> 01:21:35,612
Speaker 24: sit down and listen to.

1749
01:21:35,772 --> 01:21:37,972
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that was that was great. There was the

1750
01:21:38,093 --> 01:21:39,572
Speaker 2: Ends was the Ends of an Era tour?

1751
01:21:39,612 --> 01:21:39,812
Speaker 9: It was.

1752
01:21:39,973 --> 01:21:40,733
Speaker 2: It was fantastic.

1753
01:21:41,093 --> 01:21:46,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, John carry yep a country in Western ones.

1754
01:21:46,812 --> 01:21:49,652
Speaker 24: Yeah, that's a little bit different. But I've seen plenty

1755
01:21:49,652 --> 01:21:52,013
Speaker 24: of people go out out into the aisles, but then

1756
01:21:52,053 --> 01:21:54,092
Speaker 24: they have signed up do not bar from the aisles

1757
01:21:54,253 --> 01:21:58,652
Speaker 24: and that's a safety feature. But there's nothing going to

1758
01:21:58,652 --> 01:21:59,932
Speaker 24: be burning mount in the paddock.

1759
01:22:01,213 --> 01:22:04,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, good on you, John. I mean the last

1760
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:06,173
Speaker 3: big concert I went to is probably helping John down

1761
01:22:06,173 --> 01:22:09,732
Speaker 3: in christ Church a few years ago, and right at

1762
01:22:09,732 --> 01:22:13,452
Speaker 3: the end, Elton himself said from the stage, everybody get

1763
01:22:13,572 --> 01:22:15,892
Speaker 3: up off your seats and dance, and that for the

1764
01:22:15,933 --> 01:22:19,172
Speaker 3: first time, because I was in seated part of the arena,

1765
01:22:19,213 --> 01:22:21,572
Speaker 3: that for the first time, I think everyone around us thought, yep,

1766
01:22:21,612 --> 01:22:24,333
Speaker 3: I can finally dance. But I know throughout that concert

1767
01:22:24,333 --> 01:22:26,532
Speaker 3: people wanted to dance, but they felt a little bit

1768
01:22:26,532 --> 01:22:29,692
Speaker 3: self conscious. Is it okay to stand up at concerts?

1769
01:22:29,692 --> 01:22:32,093
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1770
01:22:32,093 --> 01:22:33,652
Speaker 3: call nine two nine till it is the text number

1771
01:22:33,652 --> 01:22:34,612
Speaker 3: twenty four past three.

1772
01:22:39,293 --> 01:22:42,972
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1773
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:49,293
Speaker 1: ten eighty on yous talk ZIV gotta fight, all right?

1774
01:22:52,532 --> 01:22:55,133
Speaker 3: What a song? You gotta fight for your right to

1775
01:22:55,133 --> 01:22:55,652
Speaker 3: a party?

1776
01:22:55,732 --> 01:22:55,892
Speaker 5: Man?

1777
01:22:56,452 --> 01:22:59,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're talking about behavior at concert. What's the

1778
01:22:59,372 --> 01:23:01,412
Speaker 2: right thing to do when you want to get up

1779
01:23:01,452 --> 01:23:04,812
Speaker 2: and you know, jump up and down. Pete, Oh, we're

1780
01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:08,492
Speaker 2: going to Pete here, your pete your thoughts.

1781
01:23:08,372 --> 01:23:11,412
Speaker 12: On their Adon Tyler come into many many concerts over

1782
01:23:11,452 --> 01:23:15,253
Speaker 12: the years, but it's very hard to I've been say

1783
01:23:15,253 --> 01:23:17,772
Speaker 12: that many cross up a Lorkland around overseas and that

1784
01:23:17,893 --> 01:23:20,932
Speaker 12: as well. But I reckon if you it's very hard.

1785
01:23:21,053 --> 01:23:23,612
Speaker 12: Like you'd like to sit down on getting bit older

1786
01:23:23,692 --> 01:23:26,652
Speaker 12: now too, But it's basically I think you can't really

1787
01:23:26,732 --> 01:23:28,372
Speaker 12: do that because at the end of the day, young

1788
01:23:28,412 --> 01:23:30,612
Speaker 12: one are going to get up, So sit down as

1789
01:23:30,612 --> 01:23:32,973
Speaker 12: long as you can, and as soon as people get up,

1790
01:23:32,973 --> 01:23:35,253
Speaker 12: you just got to go with the flow. But as

1791
01:23:35,293 --> 01:23:39,412
Speaker 12: far as people sitting on top of people for the

1792
01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:42,093
Speaker 12: end of the day, that's really restricting your view. Then

1793
01:23:43,253 --> 01:23:43,972
Speaker 12: I don't mind if.

1794
01:23:43,853 --> 01:23:45,772
Speaker 25: You got your kids if you're fair enough, because you

1795
01:23:45,812 --> 01:23:47,452
Speaker 25: know you don't want to be playing for babysitters and

1796
01:23:47,452 --> 01:23:49,612
Speaker 25: it's good for them to get out and get them

1797
01:23:49,612 --> 01:23:52,732
Speaker 25: involved of it too. But only your kids on your shoulder,

1798
01:23:52,812 --> 01:23:54,333
Speaker 25: not growing up, because the end of the day, you

1799
01:23:54,412 --> 01:23:57,732
Speaker 25: are paying for to listen and see the view of

1800
01:23:57,812 --> 01:23:59,492
Speaker 25: the band and man as well, So you're going to

1801
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:02,733
Speaker 25: grown up. You're totally lost your view and everybody did that.

1802
01:24:02,732 --> 01:24:05,973
Speaker 25: That's when you start causing agro. I think the organizers

1803
01:24:05,973 --> 01:24:08,293
Speaker 25: should say kids, consider on the shoulders of the parents,

1804
01:24:08,612 --> 01:24:10,732
Speaker 25: we're not growing Up's also help and take the thing

1805
01:24:10,812 --> 01:24:13,213
Speaker 25: too for growing up balls on you. It's going to

1806
01:24:13,213 --> 01:24:15,692
Speaker 25: be not a nice Uh. You're going to end up

1807
01:24:16,293 --> 01:24:18,333
Speaker 25: up out of a broken shoulder or stuffing because someone's

1808
01:24:18,412 --> 01:24:19,252
Speaker 25: landing on a bigger.

1809
01:24:19,053 --> 01:24:21,612
Speaker 12: Person's land on you. So I think not growing up

1810
01:24:21,692 --> 01:24:22,572
Speaker 12: on people's shoulders.

1811
01:24:22,652 --> 01:24:24,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the person on the shoulder, it's the

1812
01:24:24,133 --> 01:24:27,852
Speaker 2: most amazing view possible, but yeah, behind people behind them

1813
01:24:27,893 --> 01:24:29,372
Speaker 2: not so good. Yeah, I think i'd agree with that.

1814
01:24:29,412 --> 01:24:30,732
Speaker 2: I mean, you're never going to get angry at a

1815
01:24:30,732 --> 01:24:32,452
Speaker 2: little ki kid on appearances shoulder.

1816
01:24:32,572 --> 01:24:35,012
Speaker 3: No, it's very wholesome. Isn't it very wholesome?

1817
01:24:35,053 --> 01:24:38,532
Speaker 12: Seeing that it's very encouraging and you're bringing them good

1818
01:24:38,692 --> 01:24:40,933
Speaker 12: and good good environment. You want to encourage that, but

1819
01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:43,133
Speaker 12: not growing up there, so it's going to step to

1820
01:24:43,532 --> 01:24:47,172
Speaker 12: becoming selfish. You're not thinking are other people that are paid.

1821
01:24:46,933 --> 01:24:47,892
Speaker 26: For you as well?

1822
01:24:48,053 --> 01:24:51,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks so much for your call, Pete Paul.

1823
01:24:51,333 --> 01:24:53,133
Speaker 3: You were at the topor.

1824
01:24:52,812 --> 01:24:56,732
Speaker 7: Event I was yet Tyler, how are you very good?

1825
01:24:56,853 --> 01:24:57,572
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy it?

1826
01:24:57,853 --> 01:24:58,333
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1827
01:24:58,532 --> 01:25:01,892
Speaker 7: Oh it was awesome made. I mean I've probably been

1828
01:25:01,933 --> 01:25:05,612
Speaker 7: to maybe ten of these concerts in Tapa, yes, and

1829
01:25:06,853 --> 01:25:08,972
Speaker 7: they tend to get better and better, you know, some years.

1830
01:25:08,973 --> 01:25:13,013
Speaker 7: But with regards to the view, I mean, the way

1831
01:25:13,013 --> 01:25:14,532
Speaker 7: I think of it is that, you know, when we're

1832
01:25:14,532 --> 01:25:17,173
Speaker 7: paying one hundred and fifty dollars for the ticket each

1833
01:25:18,093 --> 01:25:21,133
Speaker 7: plus the alcohol, last even thing else that you spend

1834
01:25:21,173 --> 01:25:24,293
Speaker 7: money on there, you're there for a good time and

1835
01:25:24,333 --> 01:25:25,812
Speaker 7: it's a long day as you know, you know, it's

1836
01:25:25,853 --> 01:25:29,732
Speaker 7: like a six hour sort of concert, and even if

1837
01:25:29,732 --> 01:25:31,372
Speaker 7: you're on the field, you know you still want to

1838
01:25:31,412 --> 01:25:33,173
Speaker 7: get up and briog you to any song that you

1839
01:25:33,253 --> 01:25:35,973
Speaker 7: love from any of the bands. So we always get

1840
01:25:36,013 --> 01:25:37,452
Speaker 7: the sort of we try and get there early enough

1841
01:25:37,452 --> 01:25:39,133
Speaker 7: to get the same spot on the on the field

1842
01:25:39,253 --> 01:25:41,732
Speaker 7: in front of the stage, but half way back. And

1843
01:25:42,173 --> 01:25:45,852
Speaker 7: even with that first band, you're clear most of us

1844
01:25:45,893 --> 01:25:47,892
Speaker 7: in our group and there's fifteen of us, we all

1845
01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:51,093
Speaker 7: stood up and were booging in our You think it's

1846
01:25:51,772 --> 01:25:53,732
Speaker 7: on the first band, you know, and then if in

1847
01:25:53,772 --> 01:25:56,293
Speaker 7: a bit more quieter. So when Ice Starters came on,

1848
01:25:56,612 --> 01:25:57,772
Speaker 7: we all went to the front. You know, you go

1849
01:25:57,893 --> 01:25:59,572
Speaker 7: to the mos put with everybody else and you just

1850
01:25:59,893 --> 01:26:02,253
Speaker 7: that way you're all standing, go to the back and

1851
01:26:02,333 --> 01:26:03,772
Speaker 7: they can enjoy the sitting.

1852
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:05,492
Speaker 22: But there's no rule.

1853
01:26:05,532 --> 01:26:08,333
Speaker 7: I don't think it doesn't better way that if you

1854
01:26:08,372 --> 01:26:09,932
Speaker 7: want to stand up and dance, you should be able

1855
01:26:09,973 --> 01:26:13,852
Speaker 7: to because you are there for your enjoyment, and that

1856
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:16,452
Speaker 7: if that's how you enjoy concerts, you know. And I'm

1857
01:26:16,452 --> 01:26:18,452
Speaker 7: a huge concert go and I love concerts, and when

1858
01:26:18,452 --> 01:26:20,772
Speaker 7: I go to a venue and sit down, I always

1859
01:26:20,772 --> 01:26:23,372
Speaker 7: feel like I want to stand up. But you just

1860
01:26:23,372 --> 01:26:25,812
Speaker 7: feel your cars because yeah, you've got people behind you,

1861
01:26:26,013 --> 01:26:29,572
Speaker 7: and these venues where you can stand up. Yeah, by

1862
01:26:29,612 --> 01:26:32,213
Speaker 7: all means to stand up or any any of the bands,

1863
01:26:32,213 --> 01:26:32,452
Speaker 7: you know.

1864
01:26:32,732 --> 01:26:34,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's interesting though, because you know, I

1865
01:26:34,893 --> 01:26:36,333
Speaker 2: was at the concert. I thought it was really really

1866
01:26:36,412 --> 01:26:39,492
Speaker 2: well run, just so easy to get in and quite

1867
01:26:39,532 --> 01:26:41,372
Speaker 2: easy to get drinks, and you know, everyone was in

1868
01:26:41,612 --> 01:26:43,612
Speaker 2: very good spirits and so there was only this one

1869
01:26:43,612 --> 01:26:45,652
Speaker 2: person that was yelling at me to sit down. So

1870
01:26:46,053 --> 01:26:47,372
Speaker 2: I just I want to get it across that it

1871
01:26:47,412 --> 01:26:50,652
Speaker 2: was an absolutely fantastic event and just such great people

1872
01:26:50,692 --> 01:26:55,053
Speaker 2: there and and the vibe was was an incredible and

1873
01:26:55,333 --> 01:26:57,013
Speaker 2: I got up at the start and went down the

1874
01:26:57,053 --> 01:27:00,093
Speaker 2: front to watch Ever Clear. But because I think the

1875
01:27:00,093 --> 01:27:04,692
Speaker 2: way it works, if you're a GA situation, then the

1876
01:27:04,732 --> 01:27:08,572
Speaker 2: actual very front of the stage is cornered off for

1877
01:27:09,013 --> 01:27:12,612
Speaker 2: VP tickets. Yeah, so you can't.

1878
01:27:12,933 --> 01:27:13,293
Speaker 4: You can't.

1879
01:27:13,293 --> 01:27:15,012
Speaker 2: You can go down the front and have a boogie,

1880
01:27:15,053 --> 01:27:17,892
Speaker 2: but not not that many people. There's not that much

1881
01:27:17,973 --> 01:27:21,253
Speaker 2: room for for the for the the gas to get

1882
01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:22,932
Speaker 2: up the front there that it was good for Ever Clear,

1883
01:27:23,572 --> 01:27:26,372
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I but I don't understand. You say

1884
01:27:26,372 --> 01:27:28,173
Speaker 2: it like it is a six hour day, so people

1885
01:27:28,173 --> 01:27:31,253
Speaker 2: couldn't be standing for that whole six hours and so

1886
01:27:31,612 --> 01:27:33,652
Speaker 2: and you're so right, because at the point where I'm

1887
01:27:33,692 --> 01:27:35,452
Speaker 2: really excited I want to get up might not be

1888
01:27:35,492 --> 01:27:40,173
Speaker 2: the point that someone else's, you know, depending on thee.

1889
01:27:39,372 --> 01:27:41,333
Speaker 7: But yeah, you say that you set up, you know,

1890
01:27:41,492 --> 01:27:43,892
Speaker 7: and got told off. To me, it's a bit unfair

1891
01:27:43,973 --> 01:27:46,492
Speaker 7: because you should have been able to stand up you know,

1892
01:27:46,612 --> 01:27:50,732
Speaker 7: with Eep Clear or or you know, actually who were

1893
01:27:50,732 --> 01:27:51,412
Speaker 7: amazing as well.

1894
01:27:51,652 --> 01:27:52,293
Speaker 2: That was so good.

1895
01:27:53,173 --> 01:27:55,692
Speaker 7: They were the best. Yeah, they were amazing the whole

1896
01:27:56,093 --> 01:27:59,572
Speaker 7: They were amazing. They completely exceeded my expectations and a

1897
01:27:59,732 --> 01:28:01,253
Speaker 7: new down love for those boys.

1898
01:28:01,013 --> 01:28:03,852
Speaker 3: Now the sound, yeah.

1899
01:28:03,732 --> 01:28:08,692
Speaker 2: They yeah, Yeah.

1900
01:28:07,213 --> 01:28:08,973
Speaker 7: Look, I just think it's one of those sort of

1901
01:28:09,612 --> 01:28:10,973
Speaker 7: things that you spend the money on, so you want

1902
01:28:11,013 --> 01:28:13,932
Speaker 7: to enjoy yourself as how you like without being sort

1903
01:28:13,933 --> 01:28:17,772
Speaker 7: of you know, sort of route for other people in

1904
01:28:17,772 --> 01:28:19,892
Speaker 7: the venues. But I think it was yet to listen

1905
01:28:19,893 --> 01:28:21,972
Speaker 7: to the music and enjoy Yeah, yeah.

1906
01:28:22,093 --> 01:28:25,173
Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much. So, yeah, I'm gonna I'm

1907
01:28:25,173 --> 01:28:29,492
Speaker 2: gonna go next year. That's just that's a natural, naturally

1908
01:28:29,532 --> 01:28:32,293
Speaker 2: occurring amphitheater as well, isn't it in topor that that

1909
01:28:32,532 --> 01:28:34,373
Speaker 2: we're the concert is Yeah.

1910
01:28:34,572 --> 01:28:36,253
Speaker 7: My only gripe is that, you know, and I keep

1911
01:28:36,253 --> 01:28:37,692
Speaker 7: saying to a mat and they all agree, is that

1912
01:28:38,213 --> 01:28:41,093
Speaker 7: it's so such a shame they don't start the whole

1913
01:28:41,093 --> 01:28:43,732
Speaker 7: concert at about stay two or three and it goes

1914
01:28:43,772 --> 01:28:46,173
Speaker 7: into the darkness because all those lights on the stage,

1915
01:28:46,293 --> 01:28:48,213
Speaker 7: which are great, you don't get the effect of the

1916
01:28:48,253 --> 01:28:49,972
Speaker 7: stage like him, do you, because it's all in sunlight.

1917
01:28:50,293 --> 01:28:53,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of odd seeing ever Clear at lunchtime,

1918
01:28:53,732 --> 01:28:56,692
Speaker 2: you know, just in the full heat and sun with

1919
01:28:57,213 --> 01:28:59,013
Speaker 2: well obviously no light show. But I thought they were good.

1920
01:28:59,053 --> 01:29:00,973
Speaker 2: I thought that the bass player was just going to

1921
01:29:00,973 --> 01:29:02,852
Speaker 2: do a big review of the concert because we were there.

1922
01:29:03,173 --> 01:29:06,013
Speaker 2: But I thought the bass player, Freddy from EVA Clear,

1923
01:29:06,053 --> 01:29:07,532
Speaker 2: he was funny. He was he had some good band

1924
01:29:07,692 --> 01:29:09,612
Speaker 2: and got the crowd going. And they, you know, a

1925
01:29:09,612 --> 01:29:12,492
Speaker 2: big band like that playing first could be churlish about

1926
01:29:12,492 --> 01:29:14,213
Speaker 2: things or or but you know, they gave it one

1927
01:29:14,293 --> 01:29:16,333
Speaker 2: hundred percent and got things going. So that was that

1928
01:29:16,412 --> 01:29:16,812
Speaker 2: was awesome.

1929
01:29:17,652 --> 01:29:17,852
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1930
01:29:17,973 --> 01:29:21,333
Speaker 3: No, Also, Paul, thank you very much. Mate nicely said,

1931
01:29:21,412 --> 01:29:23,572
Speaker 3: oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is an able to

1932
01:29:23,612 --> 01:29:25,132
Speaker 3: call some great texts coming.

1933
01:29:25,013 --> 01:29:26,972
Speaker 2: Through the text It says, Matt, can you sit down please,

1934
01:29:27,013 --> 01:29:27,892
Speaker 2: I can't see my radio.

1935
01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:31,093
Speaker 3: Very good. It is twenty seven to four. Back in

1936
01:29:31,133 --> 01:29:35,492
Speaker 3: a month, Jus talk said.

1937
01:29:35,532 --> 01:29:39,093
Speaker 13: The headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's no trouble with

1938
01:29:39,133 --> 01:29:42,812
Speaker 13: a blue bubble. The tourism and Hospitality Minister says a

1939
01:29:42,853 --> 01:29:46,852
Speaker 13: new digital no mad Visa beginning today will help put

1940
01:29:46,853 --> 01:29:50,613
Speaker 13: New Zealand on the map for highly skilled workers, particularly

1941
01:29:50,612 --> 01:29:54,093
Speaker 13: from the US and East Asia. It lets visitors work

1942
01:29:54,133 --> 01:29:58,213
Speaker 13: remotely here for a foreign employer. The Finance Minister says

1943
01:29:58,253 --> 01:30:01,812
Speaker 13: she's asked Treasury to assess government ownership of a number

1944
01:30:01,812 --> 01:30:05,293
Speaker 13: of assets and weather they're still fit for public ownership.

1945
01:30:06,093 --> 01:30:09,333
Speaker 13: The Munga fire community is rallying after a tornado tour

1946
01:30:09,452 --> 01:30:13,093
Speaker 13: through the Northland holiday hot spot early on Sunday, seriously

1947
01:30:13,293 --> 01:30:18,293
Speaker 13: during two people, damaging dozens of buildings. Reports of serious

1948
01:30:18,333 --> 01:30:21,093
Speaker 13: injuries in a two vehicle crash on State Highway One

1949
01:30:21,133 --> 01:30:24,932
Speaker 13: north of Martin in Manawatu Huanga Nui just after two.

1950
01:30:25,452 --> 01:30:27,533
Speaker 14: The road is closed. There are diversions.

1951
01:30:28,492 --> 01:30:33,572
Speaker 13: Shock at Balmoral Recreation Reserve campground north of Canterbury's Hidanui River,

1952
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:36,452
Speaker 13: where a person was critically injured last night by a

1953
01:30:36,492 --> 01:30:39,692
Speaker 13: tree falling on their caravan. Dick A Cruz took more

1954
01:30:39,732 --> 01:30:44,372
Speaker 13: than two hours to free its occupant. AI generated abuse

1955
01:30:44,532 --> 01:30:48,093
Speaker 13: images pose new threat in New Zealand and overseas. You

1956
01:30:48,133 --> 01:30:51,213
Speaker 13: can read more at Enzen Herald Premium. Back to matt

1957
01:30:51,253 --> 01:30:52,412
Speaker 13: Heath and Tyler Adams.

1958
01:30:52,652 --> 01:30:54,052
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylene.

1959
01:30:54,093 --> 01:30:56,852
Speaker 2: We're talking about etiquette at concerts. How you behave got

1960
01:30:56,853 --> 01:30:58,973
Speaker 2: the sticks from Shelley here, she says. Bond Scott from

1961
01:30:59,013 --> 01:31:01,652
Speaker 2: ACDC said, cheers are for standing on. If you're hot,

1962
01:31:01,692 --> 01:31:05,133
Speaker 2: take your clothes off and throw them away. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1963
01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:06,772
Speaker 2: that's got the's religion.

1964
01:31:06,893 --> 01:31:11,252
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, Barry, what's your thoughts are standing up at concerts?

1965
01:31:12,253 --> 01:31:12,452
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1966
01:31:12,853 --> 01:31:13,253
Speaker 19: He look.

1967
01:31:13,293 --> 01:31:15,612
Speaker 17: Well, basically, I think if you paid for a seed

1968
01:31:15,652 --> 01:31:17,772
Speaker 17: and that's that sort of concert and people are wanting

1969
01:31:17,772 --> 01:31:20,812
Speaker 17: to actually sit down and watch, yeah you've got to

1970
01:31:20,812 --> 01:31:22,412
Speaker 17: sit down. But if you're in a paddic at a

1971
01:31:22,452 --> 01:31:26,452
Speaker 17: wine at a vineyard or something, well know, you haven't

1972
01:31:26,452 --> 01:31:28,572
Speaker 17: actually paid for a seat, you're just paid to be there.

1973
01:31:29,213 --> 01:31:32,452
Speaker 17: But I mean, it depends too on what sort of

1974
01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:34,652
Speaker 17: bandits You wouldn't want to be sitting down for a

1975
01:31:34,732 --> 01:31:38,253
Speaker 17: CDC the whole time, But then again for somebody like

1976
01:31:38,293 --> 01:31:41,052
Speaker 17: Sir Briman or Andre Bachelli, you'd want to be sitting

1977
01:31:41,093 --> 01:31:41,892
Speaker 17: down for the whole thing.

1978
01:31:41,973 --> 01:31:44,612
Speaker 2: Well, if someone says here Barry tries standing up at

1979
01:31:44,612 --> 01:31:48,372
Speaker 2: the Cliff Richard concert at Christis Town Hall, good luck guy. Exactly, yeah,

1980
01:31:48,372 --> 01:31:50,853
Speaker 2: exactly the cliff.

1981
01:31:51,452 --> 01:31:55,652
Speaker 17: You'd have to knock your the frame out of the way.

1982
01:31:55,973 --> 01:31:56,213
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1983
01:31:56,492 --> 01:31:59,333
Speaker 17: So I think a bit depends on the situation. I mean,

1984
01:31:59,452 --> 01:32:01,852
Speaker 17: those four girls standing in front of some old people,

1985
01:32:02,253 --> 01:32:04,173
Speaker 17: well that was rude and they should have bloody bought

1986
01:32:04,213 --> 01:32:06,612
Speaker 17: themselves tickets down to stand up on the marsh bit.

1987
01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:11,053
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah, I say much depends what it is, that

1988
01:32:11,093 --> 01:32:14,892
Speaker 17: sort of thing, but it just I mean, especially a

1989
01:32:14,973 --> 01:32:19,612
Speaker 17: lady and a little choir, Well, no, tell thelish to

1990
01:32:19,652 --> 01:32:20,932
Speaker 17: stand up like everybody else.

1991
01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:24,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want one of those. Get if it would

1992
01:32:24,133 --> 01:32:26,892
Speaker 2: have been possible to negotiate at that Cold Play concert, if

1993
01:32:26,893 --> 01:32:29,012
Speaker 2: you're the four girls that are standing up and you say,

1994
01:32:29,173 --> 01:32:30,772
Speaker 2: you seven year old ladies, do you want to get

1995
01:32:30,812 --> 01:32:32,133
Speaker 2: in front of us and we'll go behind you so

1996
01:32:32,213 --> 01:32:36,852
Speaker 2: we can have a dance. But sometimes dancing is sometimes

1997
01:32:36,933 --> 01:32:41,412
Speaker 2: dancing is voluntary, Barry. And also I was talking about

1998
01:32:41,452 --> 01:32:43,612
Speaker 2: in terms of if you know, if you're going along

1999
01:32:43,652 --> 01:32:45,852
Speaker 2: to watch the All Blacks and the All Blacks score

2000
01:32:45,893 --> 01:32:47,972
Speaker 2: a try so you can't help it stand.

2001
01:32:49,572 --> 01:32:55,812
Speaker 8: Behind a very.

2002
01:32:55,772 --> 01:32:59,652
Speaker 3: Thank you who I like his passion, Thank you very much, Barry.

2003
01:33:00,093 --> 01:33:02,892
Speaker 3: I'm going to say there is there's a difference in

2004
01:33:02,973 --> 01:33:05,572
Speaker 3: my eyes of a stadium where you pay for a

2005
01:33:05,612 --> 01:33:08,013
Speaker 3: seat to a concert that you've gone to, where you're

2006
01:33:08,013 --> 01:33:10,692
Speaker 3: on a is that woman behind you, if she was

2007
01:33:10,772 --> 01:33:12,852
Speaker 3: really upset about it, could have just moved her chair

2008
01:33:12,853 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 3: a little bit.

2009
01:33:13,333 --> 01:33:16,173
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know. It was becoming a wall

2010
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:19,293
Speaker 2: of human beings at that point, you know. And and

2011
01:33:19,293 --> 01:33:22,253
Speaker 2: in a big concert like that, across the day, it's

2012
01:33:22,612 --> 01:33:26,333
Speaker 2: things start off anikey starts to take hold, doesn't it.

2013
01:33:26,412 --> 01:33:28,013
Speaker 2: By the end of a day, six hour concert in

2014
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:28,972
Speaker 2: the sun.

2015
01:33:28,933 --> 01:33:31,572
Speaker 3: Ye, people are pretty pretty sloshed. To this point.

2016
01:33:31,652 --> 01:33:33,692
Speaker 2: The societal rules start to break down a little bit,

2017
01:33:34,213 --> 01:33:36,892
Speaker 2: you know. And your good luck actually to her trying

2018
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:40,133
Speaker 2: to trying to enforce her very small camping to your

2019
01:33:40,213 --> 01:33:41,612
Speaker 2: rule there. She wanted to be able to sit and

2020
01:33:41,933 --> 01:33:43,892
Speaker 2: watch the concert without anyone dancing in front of her.

2021
01:33:43,973 --> 01:33:47,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bold move. Eighty is and I'm going

2022
01:33:47,452 --> 01:33:50,333
Speaker 3: to call standing up in concerts yay or nay? Love

2023
01:33:50,372 --> 01:33:52,772
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Nine nine two is the text number.

2024
01:33:52,772 --> 01:33:53,892
Speaker 3: It is twenty one to four.

2025
01:33:55,692 --> 01:33:58,133
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit have fun

2026
01:33:58,173 --> 01:33:58,812
Speaker 4: along the way.

2027
01:33:59,013 --> 01:34:02,972
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo X eighty Innovation

2028
01:34:03,173 --> 01:34:06,212
Speaker 1: Style and Design have it all you talk said.

2029
01:34:06,013 --> 01:34:10,772
Speaker 3: Be Sean, good afternoon, Jane, are you yeah, very well.

2030
01:34:11,293 --> 01:34:14,013
Speaker 2: You've got some stuff. You've got some thoughts on how

2031
01:34:14,013 --> 01:34:15,173
Speaker 2: to behave at concerts.

2032
01:34:15,933 --> 01:34:18,372
Speaker 15: I do well, thoughts personal thoughts, you should say, of course,

2033
01:34:18,412 --> 01:34:20,932
Speaker 15: but the same scenario as yourself got told to sit down,

2034
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:23,412
Speaker 15: And it wasn't actually me. It was my daughter that

2035
01:34:23,452 --> 01:34:25,892
Speaker 15: God told to sit down. Well, my daughter is plural.

2036
01:34:26,452 --> 01:34:28,213
Speaker 15: We went to pel Jam back in November. On the

2037
01:34:28,213 --> 01:34:30,412
Speaker 15: first night, on the Friday, there was that eight of

2038
01:34:30,492 --> 01:34:32,173
Speaker 15: us sort of sat up in the stands, right up

2039
01:34:32,213 --> 01:34:34,812
Speaker 15: in the rafters, with four in front, four behind us,

2040
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:36,812
Speaker 15: all sort of I had my mum there, my sister,

2041
01:34:37,093 --> 01:34:40,333
Speaker 15: brother in law mates wow, and and my three daughters

2042
01:34:40,333 --> 01:34:40,612
Speaker 15: with us.

2043
01:34:40,612 --> 01:34:44,253
Speaker 2: So pijam fans yeah men, yep.

2044
01:34:44,853 --> 01:34:47,213
Speaker 15: Yet they sit in the top tippy top echelons of

2045
01:34:47,253 --> 01:34:49,652
Speaker 15: one of my favorites, along with a few others. So

2046
01:34:49,933 --> 01:34:51,652
Speaker 15: they started the course as you do with given a

2047
01:34:51,652 --> 01:34:54,772
Speaker 15: fly daughters know that song. They all got up and danced.

2048
01:34:55,133 --> 01:34:58,692
Speaker 15: The lady behind with her husband decided to tap them

2049
01:34:58,692 --> 01:35:00,852
Speaker 15: on the shoulders and say, oh, he sit down, So

2050
01:35:00,893 --> 01:35:02,933
Speaker 15: of course we're dancing away. Look to my right, my

2051
01:35:03,013 --> 01:35:04,572
Speaker 15: daughters are sat down. I simply I was going on

2052
01:35:04,612 --> 01:35:05,133
Speaker 15: and stand up.

2053
01:35:05,173 --> 01:35:05,412
Speaker 16: They went.

2054
01:35:05,652 --> 01:35:07,412
Speaker 15: They sort of acknowledged or no. She told us to

2055
01:35:07,412 --> 01:35:09,932
Speaker 15: sit down. So I sort of glanced around and thought,

2056
01:35:09,933 --> 01:35:13,413
Speaker 15: oh god, there we go. Give me one of those. Thankfully,

2057
01:35:13,452 --> 01:35:15,933
Speaker 15: and luckily, I thought, no, don't cause a scene. For

2058
01:35:16,173 --> 01:35:18,772
Speaker 15: two of my three daughters, it was their first ever concert, yep,

2059
01:35:19,253 --> 01:35:20,772
Speaker 15: so I thought, I'm not going to cause a scene.

2060
01:35:20,853 --> 01:35:23,612
Speaker 15: Let's just find a solution. Thankfully, there were a few

2061
01:35:23,652 --> 01:35:26,532
Speaker 15: empty seats beside the row in front of us, so

2062
01:35:26,612 --> 01:35:28,692
Speaker 15: I sort of said, look, jump down there in front

2063
01:35:28,692 --> 01:35:30,812
Speaker 15: of those, and then she's above eye level and I

2064
01:35:30,853 --> 01:35:32,492
Speaker 15: turned around to acknowledge her and said, look is that

2065
01:35:32,532 --> 01:35:32,852
Speaker 15: all right?

2066
01:35:32,893 --> 01:35:33,253
Speaker 9: Like that?

2067
01:35:33,652 --> 01:35:37,732
Speaker 15: She sat there, stone cold, didn't say a word, just

2068
01:35:37,893 --> 01:35:40,093
Speaker 15: arms folded. I don't even think she tapped her feet

2069
01:35:40,093 --> 01:35:41,173
Speaker 15: the whole lady tip either.

2070
01:35:41,652 --> 01:35:45,372
Speaker 2: So she said, because we're talking about different types of bands, right,

2071
01:35:45,652 --> 01:35:49,333
Speaker 2: and that's odd to be a Pearl Jam fan and

2072
01:35:49,372 --> 01:35:50,173
Speaker 2: be that up tight.

2073
01:35:50,933 --> 01:35:53,372
Speaker 15: I mean, that's what I thought. Her husband looked over

2074
01:35:53,412 --> 01:35:55,133
Speaker 15: and acknowledged me and sort of gave me the thumbs up.

2075
01:35:55,173 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 15: I still love as long as you guys can still see,

2076
01:35:57,213 --> 01:35:59,612
Speaker 15: and he went, now, we're good, mate, she just I

2077
01:35:59,612 --> 01:36:01,092
Speaker 15: don't even think she wanted to be there.

2078
01:36:01,572 --> 01:36:03,933
Speaker 2: Well, if she doesn't want to be there, what is

2079
01:36:03,933 --> 01:36:05,133
Speaker 2: she If she doesn't want to be there, what does

2080
01:36:05,133 --> 01:36:08,532
Speaker 2: she need to see the back of your daughters he's

2081
01:36:08,532 --> 01:36:08,892
Speaker 2: looking at.

2082
01:36:08,973 --> 01:36:11,012
Speaker 15: I've always been conscious of that because I turned around

2083
01:36:11,053 --> 01:36:13,173
Speaker 15: behind me to the two guys, two or three people

2084
01:36:13,213 --> 01:36:15,253
Speaker 15: behind us, and they were standing up as well, So

2085
01:36:15,253 --> 01:36:17,213
Speaker 15: we thought, okay, I'm good. If anything, I would have

2086
01:36:17,213 --> 01:36:20,052
Speaker 15: swap places with them maybe, but we found a solution. Luckily,

2087
01:36:20,053 --> 01:36:21,852
Speaker 15: if the seats weren't there available, we were at the

2088
01:36:21,893 --> 01:36:23,612
Speaker 15: end of the row, and I would have said, come

2089
01:36:23,652 --> 01:36:25,972
Speaker 15: out in the bloody by the seats, by the steps,

2090
01:36:25,973 --> 01:36:28,572
Speaker 15: and there's other dance in a boogie. We literally danced

2091
01:36:28,772 --> 01:36:30,372
Speaker 15: for two hours, two and a half hours. If they

2092
01:36:30,412 --> 01:36:32,253
Speaker 15: nearly played a couple of songs, just sit down and

2093
01:36:32,293 --> 01:36:35,612
Speaker 15: take a break. But when there was daughter wish lest

2094
01:36:35,612 --> 01:36:37,572
Speaker 15: all the ones we wanted to hear rocking in the

2095
01:36:37,572 --> 01:36:40,652
Speaker 15: free World to finish with, everybody was on their feet.

2096
01:36:40,772 --> 01:36:44,412
Speaker 15: Obviously the Neil Young cover she sat there doing nothing.

2097
01:36:45,133 --> 01:36:46,612
Speaker 2: So how could you look at how could you look

2098
01:36:46,652 --> 01:36:49,973
Speaker 2: at that multi generational family situation with everyone having a

2099
01:36:49,973 --> 01:36:53,173
Speaker 2: fantastic time and go. I want to spoil that. I

2100
01:36:53,173 --> 01:36:55,133
Speaker 2: don't want to see that, see that good time, see

2101
01:36:55,133 --> 01:36:57,372
Speaker 2: those young girls at their firsty of a concert, I

2102
01:36:57,372 --> 01:36:58,293
Speaker 2: want to ruin that for them.

2103
01:36:59,372 --> 01:37:01,213
Speaker 22: My mum said the same thing a bit more colorful

2104
01:37:01,293 --> 01:37:05,812
Speaker 22: language before the same scenario. She said, what a grumpy tart,

2105
01:37:05,812 --> 01:37:07,652
Speaker 22: And I thought, if you'd have seen her, she didn't

2106
01:37:07,652 --> 01:37:09,692
Speaker 22: really move the whole And if that's your if that's

2107
01:37:09,692 --> 01:37:11,932
Speaker 22: your scene at the gig, fair enough. But I went

2108
01:37:12,013 --> 01:37:15,652
Speaker 22: to Puss a Fer back in twenty seventeen Vector or

2109
01:37:15,692 --> 01:37:18,692
Speaker 22: Spark Arena, and they made Vector Arena sort of half

2110
01:37:18,812 --> 01:37:21,492
Speaker 22: It wasn't the full size venue so about and it

2111
01:37:21,532 --> 01:37:23,692
Speaker 22: was all seated in there as well, even on the floor.

2112
01:37:23,732 --> 01:37:27,012
Speaker 22: And what about six or seven songs into it, James

2113
01:37:27,093 --> 01:37:29,493
Speaker 22: Keenan turns around and says, I had a hip replacement

2114
01:37:29,492 --> 01:37:32,852
Speaker 22: a few years ago, and you guys are all sitting down, Yes,

2115
01:37:32,893 --> 01:37:35,452
Speaker 22: stand up and stand up and dance. Of course, that

2116
01:37:35,492 --> 01:37:38,093
Speaker 22: puts Security into a frenzy and we can finally do

2117
01:37:38,213 --> 01:37:40,852
Speaker 22: something now, we can actually do our job. Security went

2118
01:37:40,933 --> 01:37:43,652
Speaker 22: round and made sure that you were dancing in front

2119
01:37:43,692 --> 01:37:45,812
Speaker 22: of your seat. Love that if you were, if you'd

2120
01:37:45,853 --> 01:37:47,532
Speaker 22: sort of moved around and you know, made your way

2121
01:37:47,532 --> 01:37:48,892
Speaker 22: to the front a little bit, like quite a few

2122
01:37:48,933 --> 01:37:51,932
Speaker 22: people did. I mean the concerts I make friends. Don't

2123
01:37:51,933 --> 01:37:54,293
Speaker 22: know you from a barrislope or all one. Let's just

2124
01:37:54,333 --> 01:37:56,572
Speaker 22: be friends. Security came up and said to the guy

2125
01:37:56,612 --> 01:37:58,093
Speaker 22: beside me, where's your seat? And he just a lot

2126
01:37:58,213 --> 01:38:00,412
Speaker 22: back there and we're all good. He said that go down,

2127
01:38:00,492 --> 01:38:02,133
Speaker 22: go back to your seat. I said, mate, he's all good,

2128
01:38:02,133 --> 01:38:04,652
Speaker 22: We're all good. Sweet Nope, he made him go back

2129
01:38:04,652 --> 01:38:07,492
Speaker 22: to his area to dance beside his seat.

2130
01:38:07,492 --> 01:38:10,333
Speaker 15: Well, we just been. Roger Waters told us the same

2131
01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:12,253
Speaker 15: thing at the US and then Gig at Victor Arena

2132
01:38:12,293 --> 01:38:14,852
Speaker 15: Spark Arena. He said, your kiwis, you need to get

2133
01:38:14,933 --> 01:38:17,612
Speaker 15: up and dance, get into it. That's the artist telling

2134
01:38:17,652 --> 01:38:21,093
Speaker 15: you to do that. People getting up and the fun.

2135
01:38:21,173 --> 01:38:23,652
Speaker 2: There's no doubt from an artist's perspective that when you're

2136
01:38:23,652 --> 01:38:25,772
Speaker 2: looking out of the crowd, you're going to prefer the

2137
01:38:25,812 --> 01:38:28,532
Speaker 2: audience as dancing or up and having a good time,

2138
01:38:28,572 --> 01:38:30,012
Speaker 2: as opposed sitting with your arms folded.

2139
01:38:30,053 --> 01:38:32,892
Speaker 15: Obviously, I mean, that's what the woman was like behind us,

2140
01:38:33,013 --> 01:38:35,293
Speaker 15: arms folded. Stone cold face didn't want.

2141
01:38:35,213 --> 01:38:35,732
Speaker 9: To know about it.

2142
01:38:35,812 --> 01:38:39,412
Speaker 15: I thought, wow, fair enough to but each to their

2143
01:38:39,452 --> 01:38:40,772
Speaker 15: own at the end of the day. But yeah, to

2144
01:38:40,812 --> 01:38:43,293
Speaker 15: sort of aim it to my daughters. I mean, two

2145
01:38:43,293 --> 01:38:45,652
Speaker 15: weeks after pilgerm me and my middle daughter, who got

2146
01:38:45,652 --> 01:38:48,932
Speaker 15: the tap on the shoulder. She's sixteen. It's pretty bloody short.

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01:38:48,973 --> 01:38:51,772
Speaker 15: Her eleven year old sister towels over her. We're at

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01:38:51,772 --> 01:38:54,053
Speaker 15: the Hosier concert two weeks later, just me and her,

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01:38:54,253 --> 01:38:57,412
Speaker 15: and we're on the floor area in Victor Arena, Torry

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01:38:57,452 --> 01:39:00,452
Speaker 15: Spark and it was just she couldn't see bugger all.

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01:39:00,572 --> 01:39:01,973
Speaker 15: So we sort of went out to the edges so

2152
01:39:01,973 --> 01:39:03,333
Speaker 15: she could get a bit of an angle on it.

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01:39:04,412 --> 01:39:07,012
Speaker 15: Both brilliant concerts. She had an amazing time on both

2154
01:39:07,053 --> 01:39:09,852
Speaker 15: aspects of it. At first concert Bilgium two weeks later Josier,

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01:39:09,893 --> 01:39:13,372
Speaker 15: who was her favorite artist, And yeah, she's just got

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01:39:13,372 --> 01:39:15,492
Speaker 15: the bug for it now. So yeah, you've got to

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01:39:15,492 --> 01:39:17,293
Speaker 15: be respectful and mindful, which is well. I thought, okay,

2158
01:39:17,372 --> 01:39:19,612
Speaker 15: let's find a solution to the problem. If there wasn't one,

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01:39:19,612 --> 01:39:20,812
Speaker 15: that would have been a bit of a bug there,

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01:39:20,853 --> 01:39:22,852
Speaker 15: but that we made it through. But I thought, why

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01:39:22,893 --> 01:39:24,652
Speaker 15: bother go and do a gig, even if you got.

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01:39:24,492 --> 01:39:25,213
Speaker 9: A seat at seat.

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01:39:25,853 --> 01:39:28,012
Speaker 15: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I don't ruin other people's frond

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01:39:28,013 --> 01:39:28,652
Speaker 15: at the end of the day.

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01:39:28,812 --> 01:39:31,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound like a great guy and a great parents.

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01:39:31,253 --> 01:39:32,253
Speaker 2: So I think if you call.

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01:39:32,133 --> 01:39:34,532
Speaker 3: Sewan Adam, how are you this afternoon?

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01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:37,293
Speaker 27: Yeah? Good, thanks mate. Maybe you could have passed us

2169
01:39:37,293 --> 01:39:38,333
Speaker 27: something to put her asleep.

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01:39:41,213 --> 01:39:42,492
Speaker 2: I'd nearly had enough to put me.

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01:39:42,853 --> 01:39:44,093
Speaker 3: Some of your red wine.

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01:39:46,293 --> 01:39:51,052
Speaker 27: Probably be able to buy something the gig, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2173
01:39:51,572 --> 01:39:54,412
Speaker 27: Maybe she didn't listen to ice House enough and cool down.

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01:39:56,173 --> 01:39:58,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, it was hot that that's that's for sure.

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01:39:58,612 --> 01:40:01,372
Speaker 2: It was. It was very, very warm. And look, I'll

2176
01:40:01,372 --> 01:40:03,293
Speaker 2: tell you if she if she didn't have the ability

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01:40:03,293 --> 01:40:06,093
Speaker 2: to stand up, then I understand must must make that

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01:40:06,253 --> 01:40:09,093
Speaker 2: clear that she did have She did have debility to

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01:40:09,093 --> 01:40:10,492
Speaker 2: stand upcause she stood up to tell him how to

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01:40:10,492 --> 01:40:10,892
Speaker 2: sit down.

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01:40:12,372 --> 01:40:14,532
Speaker 27: Maybe we see the first person in there and said,

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01:40:14,572 --> 01:40:15,772
Speaker 27: oh this is pretty good.

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01:40:16,612 --> 01:40:18,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what happens.

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01:40:18,572 --> 01:40:18,732
Speaker 12: Though.

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01:40:18,732 --> 01:40:20,973
Speaker 2: I think for those concerts and really well run, as

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01:40:21,013 --> 01:40:23,053
Speaker 2: I said, and people have been going. You know, it's

2187
01:40:23,053 --> 01:40:25,452
Speaker 2: my first time there, and people have been going to

2188
01:40:25,452 --> 01:40:28,852
Speaker 2: those summer concerts at the top or Ampitheater for fourteen years.

2189
01:40:28,853 --> 01:40:30,852
Speaker 2: I believe they've been running something like that, and so

2190
01:40:30,893 --> 01:40:32,692
Speaker 2: people have their way of doing it. So she may

2191
01:40:32,692 --> 01:40:34,772
Speaker 2: have gone early and thought, I have set up this

2192
01:40:34,812 --> 01:40:37,253
Speaker 2: is my zone. Now this is she'd made a land grab,

2193
01:40:37,333 --> 01:40:39,532
Speaker 2: this was to his own and then just pesky people

2194
01:40:39,532 --> 01:40:41,133
Speaker 2: like me keep turning up and having a good time

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01:40:41,173 --> 01:40:41,612
Speaker 2: in front of it.

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01:40:43,173 --> 01:40:43,372
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:40:43,452 --> 01:40:46,173
Speaker 27: Yeah, I go to a lot of gigs. I've probably

2198
01:40:46,173 --> 01:40:51,173
Speaker 27: I've been to well over one hundred. You go to

2199
01:40:51,253 --> 01:40:54,053
Speaker 27: these things and you and granted a lot of them

2200
01:40:54,093 --> 01:40:56,333
Speaker 27: are indoors, and if you're standing up, you're probably going

2201
01:40:56,412 --> 01:40:58,892
Speaker 27: to get pushed around a little bit knocked every now

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01:40:58,933 --> 01:41:00,492
Speaker 27: and then because people are going past you to get

2203
01:41:00,572 --> 01:41:02,532
Speaker 27: drinks and so on. You you just kind of deal

2204
01:41:02,532 --> 01:41:04,772
Speaker 27: with it. It just goes with or and in the

2205
01:41:04,853 --> 01:41:06,452
Speaker 27: end you just go, you know what, I've kind of

2206
01:41:06,452 --> 01:41:07,652
Speaker 27: had enough of it, so you just move.

2207
01:41:08,013 --> 01:41:10,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to sort of give up the rules

2208
01:41:10,093 --> 01:41:12,213
Speaker 2: of everyday life, don't you That you have to do.

2209
01:41:12,253 --> 01:41:14,053
Speaker 2: You have to realize that people are going to jostling you,

2210
01:41:14,093 --> 01:41:15,732
Speaker 2: they're going to behaving in a different way, and you

2211
01:41:15,812 --> 01:41:17,492
Speaker 2: just if you realize you're in a different environment. You're

2212
01:41:17,492 --> 01:41:19,732
Speaker 2: not in your own living room at home. Yeah, you know,

2213
01:41:19,853 --> 01:41:22,013
Speaker 2: if I'd come into a living room instead of with

2214
01:41:22,133 --> 01:41:23,933
Speaker 2: a skinful and started jumping up and down. Might have

2215
01:41:23,973 --> 01:41:27,052
Speaker 2: got it, but we're to enjoy the concert together.

2216
01:41:27,253 --> 01:41:29,012
Speaker 27: With some cringeworthy dancing.

2217
01:41:29,213 --> 01:41:31,052
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hopefully there's no footage.

2218
01:41:34,013 --> 01:41:35,452
Speaker 3: Well yep, go yeah.

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01:41:35,572 --> 01:41:37,892
Speaker 27: So my solution is how many people were there?

2220
01:41:38,612 --> 01:41:41,372
Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand? I believe you get.

2221
01:41:41,213 --> 01:41:44,053
Speaker 27: All fourteen thousand and do it school photos style, so

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01:41:44,133 --> 01:41:46,333
Speaker 27: everyone's lined up based upon their height.

2223
01:41:49,213 --> 01:41:50,612
Speaker 3: You're a thinker out of I like it.

2224
01:41:50,732 --> 01:41:52,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have thought of that. I should have

2225
01:41:52,612 --> 01:41:54,772
Speaker 2: tried to organize that. Thanks you cool, dam appreciate it.

2226
01:41:54,812 --> 01:41:56,732
Speaker 3: Chaers Oh, eighte hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is a

2227
01:41:56,853 --> 01:41:58,772
Speaker 3: number to call. We have time for a few more

2228
01:41:58,893 --> 01:42:01,093
Speaker 3: phone calls before we wrap this up. It is ten

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01:42:01,133 --> 01:42:01,452
Speaker 3: to four.

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01:42:03,452 --> 01:42:06,932
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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is seven to four.

2235
01:42:20,333 --> 01:42:23,532
Speaker 2: I think I might have Solt sold the summer concert

2236
01:42:23,532 --> 01:42:26,412
Speaker 2: short there in Topaul at the emphitheater there. I think

2237
01:42:26,452 --> 01:42:29,732
Speaker 2: it was seventeen thousand according to this texture in nineteen nine, two,

2238
01:42:29,772 --> 01:42:32,572
Speaker 2: I said fourteen thousand, So I stole three thousand people

2239
01:42:32,612 --> 01:42:33,693
Speaker 2: of their attendance.

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Speaker 3: It's a great crowd. Dylan, you want to have a

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01:42:35,893 --> 01:42:37,772
Speaker 3: chat about your experience at pill Jam as well.

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01:42:38,853 --> 01:42:40,933
Speaker 26: Yeah, mate, Yeah, so I was as the pack just

2243
01:42:41,013 --> 01:42:43,812
Speaker 26: like the other guy was. He must have been a

2244
01:42:43,812 --> 01:42:46,093
Speaker 26: bit further away because I couldn't see you understanding up

2245
01:42:46,893 --> 01:42:51,293
Speaker 26: or too drunk to either. I think when when you're

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01:42:51,293 --> 01:42:54,253
Speaker 26: at a concert, that's the last time experience. When you

2247
01:42:54,333 --> 01:42:56,572
Speaker 26: go to see a big band like Phil Jam, like

2248
01:42:57,173 --> 01:42:59,372
Speaker 26: you wait a lot of time to get there, and

2249
01:42:59,412 --> 01:43:04,612
Speaker 26: if someone's behind you in your saying sit down, maybe

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01:43:04,612 --> 01:43:06,532
Speaker 26: they should have gave you figures of someone that messed up.

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01:43:07,893 --> 01:43:11,532
Speaker 26: That's we couldn't get Jay tickets. There was any tickets

2252
01:43:11,853 --> 01:43:16,133
Speaker 26: that we could get. So I'm standing up regardless. I

2253
01:43:16,293 --> 01:43:19,212
Speaker 26: take all of the energy, and I love I love concepts,

2254
01:43:19,213 --> 01:43:22,133
Speaker 26: and that's just an experience you're not going to get

2255
01:43:22,452 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 26: maybe for another few years. That specific fan so.

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01:43:27,973 --> 01:43:30,213
Speaker 2: Is a gen X you know, and and Pearl Jam

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01:43:30,253 --> 01:43:34,253
Speaker 2: or a gen X band. As gen X guys get older,

2258
01:43:34,532 --> 01:43:38,213
Speaker 2: we can't be behaving like that. We've got we're gonna

2259
01:43:38,213 --> 01:43:39,652
Speaker 2: we're gonna stand up for pearl jam.

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01:43:39,812 --> 01:43:44,092
Speaker 26: Yeah, that's right exactly, And and they've got a painted

2261
01:43:44,133 --> 01:43:46,452
Speaker 26: a good picture of what this lady looked like in

2262
01:43:46,452 --> 01:43:49,372
Speaker 26: my head. And red wine.

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01:43:50,372 --> 01:43:53,092
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm partial, little bit of a read myself,

2264
01:43:53,133 --> 01:43:55,173
Speaker 2: but I'll but I'll have that red in my hand,

2265
01:43:55,213 --> 01:44:00,173
Speaker 2: standing up, spilling it all over people. I think.

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01:44:02,333 --> 01:44:07,013
Speaker 3: I think some great texts coming through to wrap this up.

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01:44:07,093 --> 01:44:10,333
Speaker 3: Get a guys, paddick. Okay, people can move around in

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01:44:10,372 --> 01:44:13,692
Speaker 3: a stadium occasional song, but not the whole concert. Our

2269
01:44:13,772 --> 01:44:16,372
Speaker 3: whole view was blocked of the chicks and christ Church

2270
01:44:16,452 --> 01:44:18,772
Speaker 3: ruined the concert. We could have stayed at home and

2271
01:44:18,812 --> 01:44:21,573
Speaker 3: listened to their music. We wanted to see them and

2272
01:44:21,772 --> 01:44:25,053
Speaker 3: them playing their instruments without people standing up in front

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01:44:25,093 --> 01:44:25,372
Speaker 3: of us.

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01:44:26,492 --> 01:44:28,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why can't you stand up?

2275
01:44:29,053 --> 01:44:30,412
Speaker 3: You stand up as well, Yeah.

2276
01:44:30,293 --> 01:44:32,293
Speaker 2: Unless, of course you can't, And then then I'm sure

2277
01:44:32,293 --> 01:44:35,213
Speaker 2: people will be under understanding if for whatever reason you

2278
01:44:35,253 --> 01:44:39,093
Speaker 2: can't stand up. But you know, I think especially rock

2279
01:44:39,173 --> 01:44:43,092
Speaker 2: bands are best enjoyed on your feet.

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01:44:43,333 --> 01:44:45,732
Speaker 3: Yep. Absolutely. If you pay a lot of money and

2281
01:44:45,772 --> 01:44:47,612
Speaker 3: you want to have a boogie, just have a boogie

2282
01:44:47,612 --> 01:44:50,412
Speaker 3: and drink your red wine. And the woman on the

2283
01:44:50,452 --> 01:44:52,053
Speaker 3: seat you should have just jumped up and had a

2284
01:44:52,053 --> 01:44:53,452
Speaker 3: boogie as well. You would have a great time.

2285
01:44:53,572 --> 01:44:55,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have stood up for my rights, shouldn't I?

2286
01:44:56,093 --> 01:44:58,933
Speaker 2: Well you did instead of slumping off, But you know

2287
01:44:59,013 --> 01:45:01,772
Speaker 2: I was representing the Mattintil afternoons on you still cep.

2288
01:45:01,853 --> 01:45:03,732
Speaker 2: I couldn't be getting into a first fight with her husband,

2289
01:45:03,812 --> 01:45:04,053
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:45:04,053 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 3: Not at this stage. It's day, you know, maybe maybe

2291
01:45:06,053 --> 01:45:06,532
Speaker 3: in a couple.

2292
01:45:06,412 --> 01:45:07,933
Speaker 2: Of months time when I wasn't Radiohodecheke.

2293
01:45:07,933 --> 01:45:12,013
Speaker 3: Sure, Hey, great discussion. Thank you very much for all

2294
01:45:12,053 --> 01:45:14,892
Speaker 3: your phone calls and texts and correspondence today. We'll do

2295
01:45:14,933 --> 01:45:16,692
Speaker 3: it all again tomorrow.

2296
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:19,093
Speaker 2: And until then, give them a taste of Kiwi from them.

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