1 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a fantastic mash up. What is that? That 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: sounds like. 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: That's Creed and Kylie Minogue. That Kylie Minogue song. By 4 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: the way, if you tremendous party started, if you're looking 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: to change gears after dinner or something, you know the 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: party's dying a little bit, wake that bitch on it. 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: You wouldn't put like emotion on of all the Kylie songs. 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: I try not. 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: I'm not. 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: I mean, the point doesn't to put a Kylie Minogue song. 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: What about spinning Around? There's a. 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Spinning around a great song. I am a lesser a 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Kylie fan. I gotta say I'm more of a Jason 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Jason Donovan. 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know who that is. I merely know 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: who Coli Mono is. 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: All right, Jason Donovan was the was the person that 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Kylie was married to on Neighbors all right? Oh yeah 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Donovan Franklin wrote it. 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah and Donovan. There's no Jason Donovan in the system song. 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: It was like, seriously yours, especially for you, especially for seriously, 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: seriously seriously Moonlight. I love a good mash up that 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: I found this one the other day. This was the 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the Bill Withers and Lizzo mash up Bye well love 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: good to be, have a listen to. This problem was grapefruit. 26 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: It was this Lizo and Bill. 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Withers check lovely. 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Check my name plane, it's Bill Withers. 29 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Sound like, that's not Bill Withers. 30 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: That's Bill with us lovely Day. Yeah, that's that's not 31 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: him singing though, No, no, no, but it's it's they've 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: done a mash up of the two songs they're covering. 33 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: It is that an Ai situation that on and then 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: she goes, no, this is real. She's singing. This is 35 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: a cover. 36 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a cover of two songs that they 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: put together. 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: Hey, those wet fish singers. 39 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Like give it it's clever. 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: I don't. Oh no, I think that's clever. I just 41 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: don't like football. 42 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. She's that's sexy stuff, you. 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: Dam There was nothing to do with sexism. For instance, 44 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: Celine Dion a wonderful singer. She's a woman. 45 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: A lot of your closest friends and women are the 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: one especially. 47 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Don't like you. Hey, is there a difference in water 48 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: displacement between saltwater and freshwater? That's a great question. 49 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: It came around three four oh three after we talked 50 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: to Scott Rice on the radio show. If you are 51 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: new to the podcast, you didn't know we actually do 52 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: a radio show. I've actually also just found out today 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of people who just follow the 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: Instagram page but didn't know that we were doing a 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: radio show or a podcast or a podcast either or 56 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's crazy how siloed everyone is these I 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: suppose it's easy to understand. You know, some people are 58 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: just Instagram people. They don't want to do anything other 59 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: than just look at Instagram. This is a cool Instagram page. 60 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: I'll follow this. 61 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Some people are just FM radio people. They just want 62 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: to listen to IFM. 63 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: Rady. 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: They don't want to watch TV. Yep. They don't want 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: to go on social media. They don't want to go 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram. 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: No, we're one of those families. You know, we're crowded 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: around the wireless every night here, kids come on, crowd 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: around the wireless. 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Some people are just AM and I prefer to go 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: on a short wave radio. 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: On the training. Yeah. 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: I I used to work for an AM radio station 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: and one day one of our hosts was supposed to 75 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: be broadcasting from somewhere else, but the remote broadcast kept broke, 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: so they then had to call into the station as 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: if they were call and do the whole show that way. 78 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, And so it was a phone call which 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: already sounds tenny on the radio, then broadcast through AM radio. 80 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Pump up the triple. 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 82 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I would have thought there's a warm, sleepy sound to AM. 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: There's not. 84 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Really, it's always such a crackly tenny bastard of a 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: sound AM radio. This is why they don't put music 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: stations on AM, because music sounds like crap on AM. 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I remember when I film first came around. That's how 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: old I am, really, Yeah, I remember the first FM station. 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: What does the film stand for? Frequentcy modulation? Okay. 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: Someone was asking me the other day about frequencies and 91 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: how they work and why there are so many or 92 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: there aren't so many, or it is so weird, it 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: is weird. My understanding is very, very limited, despite the 94 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: fact that I work for a radio station. But what 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: I do know is that obviously they're just frequencies, so 96 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: they exist. It's not like you make them. The frequencies 97 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: that exist. The reason you have to buy them is 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: because they have to be separated by enough that they 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: don't all bleed into each other. You know, when you're 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: on the you're driving from timor at Ashburton and you're 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: on a casp and it cuts. But then you'll also 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: notice that as you drive around the country, ninety three 103 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: point two will be MOREFM in one place, and then 104 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: it'll be the edge and another and then it'll be 105 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: hodak in you know what I mean. Yes, And it's 106 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: because they have to be spread out equidistant, and so 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: in different regions they will have the same frequencies. 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: It's a spectrum. It is a spectrum, and somewhere so 109 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: your dial can pack up the frequency coming at you, well, 110 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: the modulation come at you from a different frequency, yeah, 111 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: which is quite out of it. It's a magic thing. 112 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: So our words go into the ear you can't see it, 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: but then certain things can pack up that sound that's 114 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: going through that because it's actually a wave that's and 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: that's invisible as it's going through the air too and 116 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: to the eye. 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: And it's pretty much instantaneous. That's the other crazy thing 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: to me. Like if you go on iHeart, for instance, 119 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: it might be thirty seconds behind. 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: But it travels at the speed of sound. 121 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 123 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: What does it travel at the speed of light? Does 124 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: it travel at the speed of it? 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: Basically process is here. 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: It's not a sound. We're not transmitting it sound. 127 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: It's a wave. It's a wave. 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: But I don't think it's a mechanical wave such like sounders, 129 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: otherwise you'd be able to hear it. 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: I think everything's a wave, isn't it Like light's a wave? 131 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Light depends on whether you're observing it or not. Can 132 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: behave both as a particle end as a wave. You've 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: never done the slit tests, Fellas, You've never done the 134 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: slit test tests. 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: On a beam of light. A lot of testing of slits. 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: But have you done it on a beam of light? 137 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Jerry? 138 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Okay, have you done it in the dark. 139 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I've done it in all sorts of states as well. 140 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: But you've got to do it in the dark, don't you. 141 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes otherwise sometimes you do. 142 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to do it. 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's way better too. 144 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: Oh, it just takes a little better, you know. But 145 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: also the act of observing it can change its behavior. 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: Totally. 147 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: Can well, how the fund did we get here? What? 148 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know? 149 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: Sl light? If in frequency? You remember that if in frequency. 150 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: Should we take a break and bang our heads against 151 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: the wall and come back. 152 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: You're not Jerry, you know this is Jason and Kylie. Yeah, 153 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: from nineteen eighty nine. 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: She's out of chemistry, didn't they? Much like Angel and 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: Shane from Home and Away? 156 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: They were banging that's why? 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: Or were they banging because of the connection they had? 158 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Sure? 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: Oh now that's interesting. 160 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Bang that one through the slit test? Tell you who 161 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: attempted a slit test on Carley Man? And that's the 162 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: old Heavo. 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: Well Hutchins did. 164 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: It was about the same time, isn't it. 165 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to find out if she behaved as a 166 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: particle or a wave self well forgetting what? 167 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: He attempted a test of hisin I'm not sure what 168 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the parameters were, but the test failed. Ah yeah, I did. 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: A lot of the early physicists did fail that test, 170 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: and I consider Mikeie Evock to be an early physicist. 171 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: He was. She was very flirtatious with them, though. I 172 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: got to say it just the timing just wasn't right. 173 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I reckon if it was today, with with phones and 174 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: social media and and all that sort of stuff, the 175 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: old have I would have been away laughing. 176 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: Where and how did they meet? Do you know the 177 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: background of that story? 178 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Nineteen ninety seven at a hotel room on Albert 179 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Street in Auckland, and he was interviewing her in the 180 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: pool area actually of the Regent Hotel. 181 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: Yes, please and excuse me. 182 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: They got on like a house on fire. And he 183 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: said the thing he took away from that whole experience 184 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: with kym and Oger interviewing it was that how beautiful 185 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: she smelt. Really, he said, she just smelt and felt 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: like an angel. He was smitten, he was. 187 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: Do you know when abouts in nineteen ninety seven it was? 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can actually I can tell you it was. 189 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: It was in the latter part of the year. 190 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to say November, because Hutchins passed away in 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: November ninety seven. Coincidence. 192 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Well, there was similar in a lot of ways, Hutchinson. 193 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: It was Hutchins, Michael Hutchins from an excess, the guy 194 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: that whispered to you on the radio show today. 195 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: Oh that day? Yeah, Ok. 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: The toy, Yeah I thought it was a toy. 197 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Well, they used to think for a long time that 198 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: toys were summoning up old spirits from dead people. Yeah. 199 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Well, fuck you would if you're just walking through the bush. 200 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Then you heard your old mate who used to walk 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: through the bush down. 202 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: What did he say? What did my Mutchins say? Come 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: over here, come over here? What the fuck? Yeah? 204 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: Was he the guy who yep, yeah, hung himself Cornelled, 205 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: that's what they called it, studdy though Cornell Cornell Cornell 206 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 3: Cornell was the original Corner and then Hutchins did it 207 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: about twenty years earlier. 208 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm thinking Chris Corner. Who are you talking about. 209 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking Chris Cornell twenty years before. 210 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: No, twenty years after. 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: So Hutchens ninety seven. 212 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Was it was the original. But but there's a big 213 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: conjecture around So Hutches was found dead by hanging in 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: his hotel room in Sydney. Yeah, and AUSSI yah a 215 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: lead saying of NXES big superstar, big superstar, big Australian 216 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: superstar actually globally and exists work were quite big. 217 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: In the States to I've gotta be honest, I only 218 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: heard of an Exist when they were looking for a 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: new singer. Remember they did a reality TV show where. 220 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: They got a new singer, j D Fortune. 221 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 2: That was the first time I heard of them, and 222 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: now he's the assistant president of the States. 223 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: Yep, that's the one. You've got it, good, good work. 224 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: And have advanced joy. 225 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, of reptide and he was anyways founded, But his 226 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: partner at the time, poorly Yates, claims that it was 227 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: the auto apphixiation. 228 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: Auto erotic asphixiation, but auto meaning self erotic man in 229 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: jack and off assixiation. 230 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's ever necessarily improved. How would you, Yeah, 231 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: unless you're there. She's like, well, Michael wouldn't have done 232 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: that otherwise. But it's a how well do you ever 233 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: really know someone exactly? 234 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: But if a romance firing up in babe elly at 235 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: the moment, a little bit of vape sharing, some awkward Oh, 236 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,479 Speaker 2: there's some great. 237 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: See that you're going to get it. She's got a cold. 238 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: Watch those these guys are in love. 239 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Now. Would you describe that as yoppers? 240 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, not as a microphone, I wouldn't disproportionate. Look, 241 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: that's a that's a yopera of an early love. Look 242 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: at them, that's so they've got that giddy smile going on. 243 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: He looks away to the left and then back to 244 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: her away to the left, back to her. 245 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: Her chin dimples when she smiles and laughs at the 246 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: seriously unfunny things he's saying out there? 247 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: Is it too grim to just to describe what police 248 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: founded with Michael Hutchins in the body? Ah? 249 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: Well, I only know if it clears things up. 250 00:12:59,600 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Okay. 251 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: My only worry is the young couple out there might here. 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: They were referred to on the podcast, come back to 253 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: listen to it, and all they get is ruder describing 254 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: Michael Hutchins was found. 255 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: So Michael Hutchins, Michael, So, who's Starsky? 256 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: That's that's Startsky, Starsky and Hatch right. 257 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's different and the other Jukes of hazard 258 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: other No, oh no, that's bar and loke. 259 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: So his body was discovered that Bowen, You're like, You're like, 260 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: you're like a computer when you've clicked on some porn 261 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: and it keeps opening up new windows that you do 262 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: not want anything to do with. 263 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: His body was discovered by a hotel made at eleven 264 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: fifty am, yes, on the twenty second of November. That's 265 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: coming up Dad, nineteen ninety seven. Police reported that he 266 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: was found in a kneeling position facing the door. 267 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had Oh, so facing the doors. 268 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: Facing the door, he had used a snake skin belt 269 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: to tie a knot on the automatic door closer at 270 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: the top of the door. Strainers head forward into the loops. 271 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: So had the buckle had broken? Okay, anything in the air. 272 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: So it's like one of those guest struts like that. Yeah, 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: like the one we've got in our studio. And so 274 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: he's gone over there with the belt, put his neck 275 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: through there. 276 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: And then so Yate's basically saying he wasn't killing himself, 277 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: but he might have done it because he was ironic asphyxiation. 278 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: Right, it's inconclusive obviously, unless he was Donald Ducking, that 279 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: would be pretty conclusive. 280 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Because I think that would have been the big This 281 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: is what I mean. 282 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: If he's Donald Ducking with the shirt on, no pants, 283 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: and then that. 284 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: I would I would members of the jury. So that's 285 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: pretty conclusive. 286 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: No prescription drugs. When was this nineteen ninety seven. 287 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: Ah, pre intident. Yeah, so he's having a he's going 288 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: into the bank. 289 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well fuck, you. 290 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: Would have had a Jez would have had a bank 291 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: and a half that guy. 292 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Or maybe a magazine. Maybe there were good days when 293 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: you used to after you used to the bank. It's 294 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: good for you. Yes, yeah, I think so, it's good 295 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: for you. 296 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: You occasionally use the bank still, Oh. 297 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Honde, I'm a big bank man. He's the banker. 298 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm the bank man. I'm the bank manager, the branch manager, certainly, 299 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: the branch manager of my branch. 300 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: A lot of banks around the country have clothed nowadays. 301 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: But customers turning over my bank, that's for sure. I'd 302 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: like to make a deposit because everyone's just throwing it 303 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: on the internet. Now that's my bank, certainly. 304 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: So that's way under the end of the safety deposit 305 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: box and it's just a wall of boxes. Okay, yeah, 306 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: and we're going to go nineteen ninety six. 307 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: But it kills someone to turn up and try and 308 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: rob me. It kills someone a little smash and grab 309 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: action rob you. So we don't know if he was 310 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: ned or not. That was the that was the question. 311 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: The last question doesn't say It doesn't say that. 312 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: And so he was checked up with Kylie Minogue at 313 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: the time. Was he was he having an affair with Kylie? 314 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: No, I don't think that was. 315 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: It was with Palliates. 316 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Now she was the heiress to the fertilizer company, is 317 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: there right seeds? 318 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 319 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: She was a heroin addict who then later on died 320 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: of a heroin overdose and tragically her and Bob Geldo. 321 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: She went out with Bob Geldof Hutchins Bob, Yes, and 322 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: here in the studio yod Man, Well he Bob. They 323 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: had a child. 324 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: I believe Tiger Lily. 325 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Tiger Lily and Tiger Lily also died of a heroin overdose. 326 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: Too many heroin overdoses going on on that Yeah, set up. 327 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Bob Goetoff made fun of me multiple times. 328 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: My feelings. What did Bob? 329 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: He didn't like the R two d to plunge a 330 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: filter coffee situation. I thought that was naf He didn't 331 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: like the fact that you and I this is a 332 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: cultural thing from the UK. He didn't like the fact 333 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: that you and I grown men were wearing shorts and 334 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: had our toes out. 335 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: Calm down. 336 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: He thought that was very uncouth. That's right, it's an 337 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: American thing too. I think where they wear pants, you'll 338 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: see an American dude wearing a singlet, pants and boots. 339 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Are you hotter or you cold? Brother? Which is it? 340 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 341 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: Whereas here we're like be lucky to catch. 342 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: Me in shoes in summer like Jandles. Even it's tricky 343 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: in New Zealand because you better to wear something warm 344 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: up top and you've got to wear something cool down below. 345 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: And oftentimes in New Zealand we're doing things. Yeah, if 346 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: you're walking somewhere, you don't want to wearing a pair 347 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: of jeans, just weigh you down. 348 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: If I see someone, then this is something we're going 349 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: to talk about on the radio today. But if you 350 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: don't know, we do a radio show six or nine 351 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: weekdays on Radio Hodach. You can tax north or south 352 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: two three four three to find your frequency. 353 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: Do we? 354 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Yes? See, I didn't know we did a radio show. 355 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: All of that talking you did this morning was recorded 356 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: and broadcast, is it via the magic of if M radio? 357 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: Did you not pick that up in that meeting we 358 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: had used to a lot. 359 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Of people don't know. In fact, Jory is just finding 360 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: out now. I don't feel like I'm contracted to do that. 361 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: I must go back and have a look at my contract. 362 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah you must. 363 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: But I was going to talk about people being fully 364 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: clothed either at the pool or at the beach. Yeah, 365 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: because I it's a funny inversion where if you were 366 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: anywhere else and someone walked down in their undies obviously 367 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: undy his togs, you'd be like, what are you doing, 368 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: you pervert? But when you're at the beach and someone's there. 369 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: Fully clothed, what are you doing, you're perfoct What are 370 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: you doing? 371 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: You pervert? 372 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 373 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: I feel because I went to the beach on the 374 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: weekend and there was it was one of those beaches 375 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: where there's sort of like a park right at the 376 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: beach if you like, a grass area, yep, And there 377 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: were two dudes, young dudes, early twenties, just sitting there 378 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: fully clothed the entire time we were there, just looking 379 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: out at the beach. 380 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: It's like, you guys are creeps. 381 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, shoes, jeans shot Yeah. Well they weren't really on 382 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: the beach there on the grass area. But just the 383 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: other thing is when we were in the overseas, we 384 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: were we went from swimming the missus in the pool 385 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: and there's a thing where Americans will go and sit 386 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: around a pool fully clothed, knock it in the pool 387 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: and then just leave again. Later I saw it at 388 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: a couple of different places. 389 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: How hot was it? Well, I just proposed. So it 390 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: was getting pretty hot, but. 391 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: No, it was it was not hot enough that an 392 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: American would swim. It was hot enough that the kip 393 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: we would swim, because we were swimming just about anything. 394 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Eighteen. 395 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like it was to the point 396 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: where when they saw us in the pool, they're like, 397 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: oh shit, check these guys out, these hearty soul Yeah yeah, 398 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: but it wasn't like we were cracking ice off the pool. 399 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, fully closed people at the beach. I'm out, 400 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: shoes on the beach stresses me to bats. I don't 401 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: know if that's the spectrum we're talking about before, But 402 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: what if I see someone in shows sanchos and what 403 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: else do they? 404 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 405 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: What are sanchoes sanchoz boat shoes. 406 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: Sancho's different. Yeah, Sancho's are like your what's a classic 407 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: pair of Oh, I know, a pair of Commando ims Sancho's. 408 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: I feel like you're speaking a different language now. Really, 409 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't know Commando. I don't know Commando. 410 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: Okay, oh right, okay, you don't know Commando ims. Canvas? Yeah, 411 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: like a canvas, that's a that's a Sancho canvas. Canvas 412 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: fun that don't wear that to the beach. I thought 413 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: when you said, sancho's your eyes picturing like beach feet. 414 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, there's little you know if you go reef shoes, 415 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: reef shoes, see exactly, Oh my god, if you're an adult. 416 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: But I tell that you wear reef shoes at the beach, 417 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: reef shoes and a red look because I know that 418 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: you've got a rash. 419 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: No I have, though I have. I bought some four 420 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: now arata because I was worried about walking in the 421 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: coral and cutting my foot up and getting a disease 422 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 3: and then needing treatment in Raratonga, which would have been 423 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: fucking quite difficult. So yeah, I do have reef shoes 424 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: for such an occasion, not in New Zealand. But when 425 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: you go diving, I ain't no pussy. 426 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: Well you wear reef shoes, so you are a pussy. 427 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm an international pussy. 428 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: You wear reef shoes and a rash shirt and you 429 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: put and you've got a hat with a flap on 430 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: the back of it and zinc zinc, and sometimes you 431 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: wear a hat like one of those floppy hats with 432 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: the thing going on the back and it's got a 433 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: string that goes underneath the gases and zink around your lips. 434 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Is all good alerts. 435 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: And you've got board shorts. They're like rockkil board shorts. 436 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: When I used to have glasses, obviously had the clip 437 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: on that would fold down. Those were cool and. 438 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Then you'd flap those up. Oh yeah, that's there's a 439 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of some intelligence going on too much. 440 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: If you ask me, well, I'm very I feel like 441 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm a very white man. You're not, I am. 442 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: Aren't you related to Cliff Curtis, Well, I am, but 443 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: you're also related to Phil Collins. 444 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: Well, but that's not a blood relation. That's only by marriage. 445 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: About five five steps away. 446 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: I think you need some I reckon, you need some 447 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: U v B. All right, should knock that? We should? 448 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: We're still chip? 449 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Are we still doing a radio sh