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Speaker 1: Damie Mackay from the Country is with us. Good evening, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you on the show as always. What

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Speaker 1: did you make of the climate change Minister Simon Watts

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Speaker 1: on the show earlier?

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I found them awe but underwhelming and

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Speaker 2: not really convincing. I think for Christopher Lux and wanted

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Speaker 2: someone to explain why we need to meet emission's targets

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Speaker 2: and stick with the Paris Court. He should have put

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Speaker 2: He should have put up Miles Hurrah or someone from

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Speaker 2: the industry who can talk the talk. No, look, Simon

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Speaker 2: Watts and the fact that he hasn't met Federated farmer

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Speaker 2: since November twenty twenty three is a bit of a

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Speaker 2: damning one from the outside looking in. And I can

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Speaker 2: only judge from the outside looking and on this one, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: he's a bit like the guy Matt Doocy. Underwhelming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was quite surprised, to be honest, not so

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Speaker 1: much with the content but the meetings. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: you're a national minister you grew up on a farm.

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Speaker 1: He was quick to say that, you know, why have

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Speaker 1: you not met directly with them since November twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 1: What on earth is that about?

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well absolutely, and then he couldn't really

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Speaker 2: explain how they were going to meet these targets where

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Speaker 2: she was she sort of excuses, Look, I'd go back

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Speaker 2: a step Ryan and say, we need to revisit this.

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Speaker 2: And I know that it was something that Damian O'Connor,

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Speaker 2: to be fair to him, was looking at. And this

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Speaker 2: is the fact that, you know, the solution partly lies

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Speaker 2: in the fact that a lot of farmers a carbon positive. Anyhow,

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Speaker 2: what we need to do is recognize all the carbon

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Speaker 2: that's being sequested on farm and then we can offset

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Speaker 2: that against the emissions. The problem in my mind, and

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Speaker 2: I left science behind in year on the fifth form,

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Speaker 2: what's that year eleven? Ryan? Honestly, the problem in my

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Speaker 2: mind isn't ruminants, ruminants emitting methane. It's man burning fossil fuel,

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Speaker 2: simple as that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going to happen with the global trade option tonight?

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Speaker 2: Well, hopefully it's a good one. Another good one, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: because we had a good one a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: or our second one in January. So the guy I

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Speaker 2: talked to him as Mike McIntyre at Jardin, I'll give

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Speaker 2: him a shameless plug and this is what he had

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Speaker 2: to say. They're expecting another good lift tonight, maybe four

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Speaker 2: or five percent. And the interesting thing is that futures

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Speaker 2: markets for this season are sitting above ten dollars, remembering

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Speaker 2: Fonterras at ten dollars for milk price for this season,

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Speaker 2: but the futures markets for the coming seasons twenty six

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Speaker 2: and twenty seven are creeping up as well. Nine dollars

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Speaker 2: eighty two and nine to twenty seven. That's good money,

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Speaker 2: a long long way out. And what Mike McIntire saying

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Speaker 2: is that another good option tonight. We'll see us break

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Speaker 2: through that ten dollars barrier for the twenty five twenty

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Speaker 2: sixth season, which would be an excellent forward looking picture

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Speaker 2: I think for dairy farmers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, we'll really look for to that result. I

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Speaker 1: always do the National Lamb Day next week. What happens

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Speaker 1: on National.

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Speaker 2: Lamb Day, Well, hopefully we all eat some lamb and

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Speaker 2: we follow what the Aussies do on Australia Day. They

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Speaker 2: do a great job of promoting it and eating it

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Speaker 2: and we need to do it and we're doing We're

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Speaker 2: doing National Lamb Day on February fifteenth. The reason that

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Speaker 2: dates chosen, Ryan, is because that was the day in

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Speaker 2: eighteen eighty two when the good Ship Dunedin left Port

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Speaker 2: Charmers with the first frozen lamb shipment. Although to be honest,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot more mutton on board than the

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Speaker 2: world's lamb. But there was also pegs hare pheasant turkey,

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Speaker 2: twenty two hundred and twenty six sheep tongues. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure who counted all of those, and two hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty six kegs of butter, so you could say it

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Speaker 2: wasn't only the birth of our frozen meat industry, it

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Speaker 2: was the birth of our export dairy industry. Look, it's

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Speaker 2: a great story, Ryan. It arrived in London ninety eight

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Speaker 2: days later after an air circulation problem in the frozen

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Speaker 2: hold had to be overcome en route. Apparently they lowered

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Speaker 2: the captain down with the saw and he had to

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Speaker 2: saw a hole between two of the holds to try

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Speaker 2: and get the ear circulating down there. And when they

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Speaker 2: got to London after ninety eight days, way back in

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Speaker 2: eighteen eighty two, of those more than five thousand carcasses,

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Speaker 2: only one was not fit for sale.

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Speaker 1: What a great story, brilliant story, Jamie thanks for sharing

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Speaker 1: that with us. Jamie Mackay from the Country National Lamb

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Speaker 1: Days next week, get your lamb chops out. I had

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Speaker 1: some beautiful lamb chops on the weekend. Actually all that

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Speaker 1: fat and some people put the fat to the side,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'll have that. Give me your fat.

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