1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: The budget announcements coming through and faster we wind up 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: to next week, of course, one hundred and forty million 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: now for the front line Attendant services, that's what they're 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: calling it, frontline Attendant Services to get school attendants up. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: The new services will be more data driven with a 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: focus on accountability and monitoring. David Cemore's the Associate Minister 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: of Education, of course, and is with us. Very good 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: morning to. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: You, good morning, way ahead of this. 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: What are the numbers so far? Are you winning the 11 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: battle on getting kids back to school or not? 12 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been good improvements. If you look at term 13 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: on term over the last year, we're doing about five 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: percent better each term than we were the same term 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: a year earlier, So where we were getting numbers of 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: maybe fifty something percent of students attending regularly that means 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: ninety percent or more, we're now getting more something more 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: like low sixties pending on the term. So that trend 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: is positive, but it's also nowhere they're good enough. Our 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: goal was eighty percent and in my view, you know, 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: the thing that will tell you the most about where 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 2: New Zealand's going to be at ten or twenty fifty 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: years time from now is how many kids went to 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: school yesterday. 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: That is correct. The accountability aspect of it is everyone 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: who can playing ball, schools, etc. 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Look, I think the truth is our attendant services have 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 2: been really really mixed, So there's some heroes out there, 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: but ero also found some really really pathetic practices when 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: we got them to review it at the end of 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: last year. That's why we're going big on attendance. Financially, 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: we're putting one hundred and forty million dollars of extra 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: taxpayer money over the next four years. That's thirty five 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: million a year. I'm not generally keen on spending more money. 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: I think this is an area where it's worth it. 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: If we have the accountability, what do you buy with it? 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: Though you can buying people. 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: We're going to largely largely services. So there's going to 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: be about eighty regions and each one is going to 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: have a single attendance service that schools can call on. 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: But that's going to be backed up by much better data. 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Because when I sat down with the Ministry when I 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: got this job at the start of last year, I said, well, 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: what are you doing? And they produced a big spreadsheet 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: and I said, well, which of these are the most 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: effective things we're doing to get kids to school, and 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: they said, oh, we don't know. So I then went 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: out and did a series of meetings where I just 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: listened to principles, attendance offices, youth ade police and said, well, 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: what actually works and what we're putting in place is 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: something called star stepped Attendance Response Scheme. That means that 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: for any level of attendance, if a kid's attending ninety 53 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: percent plus, that's great, nothing to see here. But as 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: their attendance declines, the parents, the school, the Ministry of Education, 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: are their agencies in the community, ordering atamurki, the police, 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: they all have a role to play depending on which 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: step we're at and how we're responding. So we are 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: putting in more money, but we're also measuring it a 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: lot better with a much better data. I can now 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: tell you that yesterday eighty five point nine percent of 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: students were at school compared with eighty nine last Tuesday. 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: So it's kind of bad for this week, and we're 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: going to make sure that we actually get results out 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: of this money, because you know, it's hard to learn 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: when you're at school, impossible if you're not. 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Well so David Seymour who also today. By the way, 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure it won't be attending, but the White Tangi 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Tribunal is having another one of their emergency hearings, this 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: time over the regulatory Standards build. There's a lack of 70 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: a specific tetirity treaty clause in the proposal and the 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: combined legislative pincer movement that is the RSB and the 72 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: TPB as and the treaty being needs to be dealt 73 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: with byd Tribunal. 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.