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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB and they.

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Speaker 2: Will get it Vomo Suspina Spain.

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Speaker 3: Claim season four. It is a fishhot. That was the

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Speaker 3: moment Spain clinched the sale GP title last year and

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Speaker 3: what was season four? Season five is underway New Zealand

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Speaker 3: winning the season opener in Dubai at the back end

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Speaker 3: of last year. Event too, sale GP Auckland next weekend.

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Speaker 3: Huge anticipation around about this event. Sam Meach is Black

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Speaker 3: Foil's coach. He joins us. Now, Sam, what will the

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Speaker 3: week ahead look like as you head towards sale GP

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Speaker 3: in Auckland next weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's a big week for us. We've had a lot

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Speaker 2: of sailing days. Usually we only get a couple of

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Speaker 2: days practice before the racing starts, and this week we've

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Speaker 2: got all week. So we've got new foils coming on

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Speaker 2: line with two foils, so there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: to learn and a lot of a lot of analyzing

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Speaker 2: and debriefing how the boat's going with the new equipment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well tell us about that the new foils. You know,

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Speaker 3: I guess that there's probably some jargon that most of

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Speaker 3: us won't understand. But in general terms, does it does

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Speaker 3: it mean you'll go faster?

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Speaker 2: It does, is exactly what it means. The boats are

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Speaker 2: going to be quicker and the racing just that little

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Speaker 2: bit more exciting. But it's it's a lot for the

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Speaker 2: teams to learn in just a few days before racing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very exciting and and and we're looking

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Speaker 3: What will the learning process be? What what is it

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Speaker 3: that you really have to try and perfect in the

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Speaker 3: next six or seven days.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's essentially it's it's not going to be too different.

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Speaker 2: It's just the boat's going to react a little bit

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Speaker 2: and like you say, quicker speeds and the maneuvers will

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Speaker 2: all feel a little bit different. So it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a lot of work, especially for the wing trimmer

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Speaker 2: and and the flight controller to kind of just get

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Speaker 2: in sync and see how it behaves differently to the older,

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Speaker 2: older foils. And then you know, these boats have so

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Speaker 2: much data coming off them there will be able to

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Speaker 2: really look into everything and compare how the other boat's

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Speaker 3: At higher speed. Are the margins for era smaller?

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Speaker 2: Oh, they definitely are. And you've got to think so

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Speaker 2: far ahead before you make a decision. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: you know, the strategist and the howm I've got to

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Speaker 2: have their plan before they go around the mark, and

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Speaker 2: they've got to know exactly what they're going to do, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: your decisions, decisions seem to be so far advanced now

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Speaker 3: So Dubai a winning start in the first event of

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Speaker 3: the new season. What were your big sort of lessons

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Speaker 3: and takeaways from Dubai?

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Speaker 2: I think Devi just showed how close the racing is,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a mixed up teams winning pretty much

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Speaker 2: every different race. So it just little things, small margins,

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Speaker 2: like you say, seem to make the difference, and you

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Speaker 2: know it's going to be a very competitive season.

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Speaker 3: Some new faces aboard the Black Force this year, yours

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Speaker 3: included obviously, how's the integration gone for you? For starter, Sam,

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Speaker 3: have you enjoyed your integration? I know you know these

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Speaker 3: guys pretty well and girls pretty well, but how's the

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Speaker 3: integration gone into the Black floors for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I know everyone really well. We've been

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Speaker 2: a different format. It's a different style of sailing that

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Speaker 2: I'm used to, And it was a big week in

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Speaker 2: device for me, trying to try to learn the roads,

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Speaker 2: learn the technology, and and I think this week will

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Speaker 2: be really cool to try and cement what I learned

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Speaker 2: and move forward. And we've also got Leo taking on

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Speaker 2: so I know it's exciting. We're learning lots and yeah,

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Speaker 3: How steep would the learning curve have been for Leo

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's a great sailor and he's actually done done

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Speaker 2: quite a bit before. But it's different. Every team sales

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Speaker 3: What are the real specifics of your role, Sam as coach?

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Speaker 2: Well, the really cool thing about these events is as

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Speaker 2: water so you've got a microphone and you've got a

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Speaker 2: during the race, which is completely different to any other

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Speaker 2: sort of coaching I've tried to before. So even just

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Speaker 2: the timing of when to use it. So you're providing

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Speaker 2: good information to the boat, but we can see a lot,

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Speaker 2: got all the data off the boat. So it's pretty

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Speaker 2: exciting and I really think it's a.

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Speaker 3: Cool challenge that must be so interesting for you because

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Speaker 3: who do you talk to everybody? Do you talk to

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Speaker 3: Peter Berling, Blairchuke, do you talk to Leo? Do you

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Speaker 3: talk to of MacKaye? Who do you talk to?

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Speaker 1: Hi?

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Speaker 3: How do you decide when they can all hear me?

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Speaker 1: You want to you want to try time at.

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Speaker 2: Well and and like you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: a lot of conversation on the boat, but you really

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Speaker 2: need to make sure it's your targets and at the

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Speaker 2: right times and not trying to speak when someone else

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Speaker 2: is speaking. So like it is, it's quite a it's

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Speaker 2: quite a challenge to you know, work with everyone and

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Speaker 2: work out what needs to be said by who and when,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's cool being able to talk

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Speaker 2: to them, but yeah, if you provide the wrong information

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Speaker 2: it's it's actually going to make things harder. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: if the team works a lot on on the communication

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Speaker 2: who's a contribute to that, it's quite good fun.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely on the boat. Is Peter Burling the driver, Is

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Speaker 3: he the one who who talks the most or not?

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Speaker 2: It's actually it's actually a pretty even balanced across the boat.

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Speaker 2: Pete probably does speak the most. But you know, you've

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Speaker 2: then you've got the booths adding kind of tactical information

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Speaker 2: from an overlay from that. So it's yeah, everyone really

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Speaker 2: do and make the right decisions sol GP.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a tremendously exciting to watch and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure to sail and the start, Sam how important is

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Speaker 2: And in the every sailing race, the start is everything.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you can if you can get it

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Speaker 2: know the race is actually pretty easy. But if you're

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Speaker 2: And it's it's it's just as easy to move backwards

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Speaker 2: if you don't get off that start line, then you

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Speaker 2: know you've got a very hard race ahead.

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Speaker 3: What's the course like in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be tight racing. You know, the Auckland

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Speaker 3: And in terms of racing in your home events, I

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Speaker 3: know there are a lot of races you get to

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Speaker 3: go to a lot of cool places, but is there

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Speaker 3: something a little bit extra special about your home event.

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Speaker 2: Ah, it's so special, and it's to race in front

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Speaker 2: of our home fans is something that you always dream of.

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, we're really excited to be able to host

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Speaker 2: these to eleven other teams and get racing this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon the Black Foils are favorites and not

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Speaker 3: just for this event but for the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's a very strong team. I you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously they performed well last year, but things things changing,

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Speaker 2: I think I think we've got always got a strong

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Speaker 3: Well, can't wait for next weekend Sam. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be such a spectacle. I've seen the grand stand going up.

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Speaker 3: I think eight thousand people in a grand stand watching

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Speaker 3: close up. Look, it's going to be a truefic event.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us on weekend Sport. All

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Speaker 3: the best for the week ahead and done, and all

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Speaker 3: the best for Auckland next weekend. Looking forward to it, well,

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Speaker 3: looking forward to it to Sam. Thanks indeed, Sam Meach there,

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Speaker 3: coach of the Black Foil. So sal GP Auckland next

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Speaker 3: Saturday and Sunday at win yard Point. Just just absolutely

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Speaker 3: really looking forward to this. We went to christ Church

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Speaker 3: last year for sale GP and you'll probably remember there

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Speaker 3: was no racing on the Saturday, but on the Sunday

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Speaker 3: same when sal GP hits Auckland next Saturday and Sunday afternoon.

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