1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from news Talk zib. 3 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:15,347 Speaker 2: It's just gone twelve to twenty six on news talks 'b. 4 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:18,267 Speaker 2: After four races on day one of salgp's Auckland Debu, 5 00:00:18,347 --> 00:00:21,827 Speaker 2: Australia tops the table, then immerates Great Britain in Spain, 6 00:00:22,027 --> 00:00:24,747 Speaker 2: and after a slow start, the Black Foils recovered to 7 00:00:24,787 --> 00:00:26,907 Speaker 2: win the final fleet race of the day to sit 8 00:00:27,107 --> 00:00:28,067 Speaker 2: in fourth place. 9 00:00:28,387 --> 00:00:29,107 Speaker 3: Let's bring in. 10 00:00:29,027 --> 00:00:32,267 Speaker 2: One of the voices of SALGP double Olympian, former World 11 00:00:32,307 --> 00:00:35,827 Speaker 2: champion race commentator Stevie Morrison. Stevie, thanks for joining us. 12 00:00:35,827 --> 00:00:38,187 Speaker 2: What were the big storylines for you on day one? 13 00:00:39,587 --> 00:00:41,587 Speaker 4: I think it was just how hard it was getting 14 00:00:41,627 --> 00:00:44,187 Speaker 4: off the start line and how maybe the fleet's. 15 00:00:43,867 --> 00:00:45,187 Speaker 5: Evened up a bit with Switzerland. 16 00:00:45,307 --> 00:00:48,107 Speaker 4: You know, they did a great reset halfway through day one, 17 00:00:48,147 --> 00:00:50,787 Speaker 4: put in a good performance, and yeah, I don't think 18 00:00:50,787 --> 00:00:52,107 Speaker 4: it was really a story, but it was. 19 00:00:52,307 --> 00:00:54,267 Speaker 5: It's always impressive to see how Pete and. 20 00:00:54,227 --> 00:00:56,467 Speaker 4: Blair and obviously Live and the rest of the team 21 00:00:56,507 --> 00:00:58,827 Speaker 4: managed to manage to deliver when they seem like they're 22 00:00:58,867 --> 00:01:00,827 Speaker 4: right got their back against the wall, so they gave 23 00:01:00,867 --> 00:01:02,707 Speaker 4: the fans what they wanted in the last race, which 24 00:01:03,347 --> 00:01:05,787 Speaker 4: must have been great to be there and was is 25 00:01:05,827 --> 00:01:07,347 Speaker 4: always very impressive to see. 26 00:01:07,627 --> 00:01:09,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, they took their time to get going, didn't they 27 00:01:09,827 --> 00:01:11,747 Speaker 2: in the home event, But you're right it was spectacular 28 00:01:11,747 --> 00:01:14,067 Speaker 2: when they won race four. How Cay might that be 29 00:01:14,147 --> 00:01:16,947 Speaker 2: Stevie hitting into day two. In terms of the momentum 30 00:01:16,987 --> 00:01:17,827 Speaker 2: they'll get from. 31 00:01:17,627 --> 00:01:19,867 Speaker 5: It, I think it's got to be massive. 32 00:01:19,867 --> 00:01:21,907 Speaker 4: They always seem to come stronger towards the back end 33 00:01:21,907 --> 00:01:23,947 Speaker 4: of the event, and you know they were clearly struggling 34 00:01:23,987 --> 00:01:25,747 Speaker 4: with they're start in the first race. I don't know 35 00:01:25,747 --> 00:01:27,707 Speaker 4: what they what happened, but they made a massive mistake. 36 00:01:27,747 --> 00:01:29,707 Speaker 4: They were really late for the start for themselves on 37 00:01:29,747 --> 00:01:32,067 Speaker 4: the back foot, and you know they seem to rely 38 00:01:32,147 --> 00:01:34,427 Speaker 4: a bit heavily on these I often refer to them 39 00:01:34,427 --> 00:01:37,307 Speaker 4: as Harry Houdini type, you know, magical escapes in races, 40 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:38,907 Speaker 4: and they lean on that. But when they can get 41 00:01:38,907 --> 00:01:41,427 Speaker 4: out in front, they're awesome. And it's got to be big, 42 00:01:41,467 --> 00:01:44,787 Speaker 4: hasn't it. The momentum Even for those guys, the pressure 43 00:01:44,867 --> 00:01:46,627 Speaker 4: have been in front of that huge crowd and the 44 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:49,547 Speaker 4: expectation on them must be must be huge, So to 45 00:01:49,627 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 4: deliver that it's got to take a little pressure off 46 00:01:51,507 --> 00:01:53,827 Speaker 4: and then they're going to go into today ready put 47 00:01:53,827 --> 00:01:55,307 Speaker 4: on a show. And they like the big breeze and 48 00:01:55,467 --> 00:01:57,507 Speaker 4: it sounds like it's pretty windy down there, which is 49 00:01:57,987 --> 00:01:59,587 Speaker 4: which is pretty great from our side. 50 00:01:59,787 --> 00:02:02,867 Speaker 2: Yes, I can confirm looking out on harbor then, is 51 00:02:02,947 --> 00:02:07,547 Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely the case. The Australian teambviously smarting from not 52 00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:11,307 Speaker 2: only not winning last season, but and Dubay not even 53 00:02:11,347 --> 00:02:15,267 Speaker 2: getting on the podium this time though first sickond and 54 00:02:15,307 --> 00:02:18,987 Speaker 2: sick and yesterday so Thom Slingsby's got them back humming again. 55 00:02:19,027 --> 00:02:20,827 Speaker 3: What did they do particularly well for you? 56 00:02:22,507 --> 00:02:24,747 Speaker 4: I think they just seemed quite settled on the foils. 57 00:02:24,747 --> 00:02:26,507 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you've sort of got a straight 58 00:02:26,867 --> 00:02:30,107 Speaker 4: you know, Jason Waterhouse and against Leo Takahashi for me, 59 00:02:30,147 --> 00:02:32,507 Speaker 4: and Leo's clearly got all the talent in the world, 60 00:02:32,547 --> 00:02:34,787 Speaker 4: but he's not had as much time on the tools 61 00:02:34,547 --> 00:02:37,387 Speaker 4: as Jason. And despite the fact that they're you know, 62 00:02:37,387 --> 00:02:39,587 Speaker 4: they're all getting new to these t foils. I think 63 00:02:39,707 --> 00:02:42,387 Speaker 4: that's that's something that Leo's got a big bit of 64 00:02:42,427 --> 00:02:43,347 Speaker 4: pressure on him against. 65 00:02:43,387 --> 00:02:44,947 Speaker 5: I think they sailed the boat very solid. 66 00:02:44,947 --> 00:02:47,627 Speaker 4: Their maneuvers were better yesterday than the Kiwis, and all 67 00:02:47,667 --> 00:02:50,747 Speaker 4: through season four the Kiwis were the standout team maneuver wise. 68 00:02:50,827 --> 00:02:53,147 Speaker 5: So so can you know what will the Kiwis have 69 00:02:53,227 --> 00:02:53,907 Speaker 5: learnt overnight? 70 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:57,427 Speaker 4: And and yeah, can they then match that consistency in 71 00:02:57,427 --> 00:02:59,147 Speaker 4: the maneuvers that the Australians had. 72 00:02:59,907 --> 00:03:01,867 Speaker 3: What happened to the US boat yesterday? 73 00:03:03,387 --> 00:03:05,667 Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean it's a big talking point, 74 00:03:05,707 --> 00:03:05,987 Speaker 5: isn't it. 75 00:03:05,987 --> 00:03:09,467 Speaker 4: They've done very well at two events, two events where 76 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:12,427 Speaker 4: there's been light winds and there's four on board, and 77 00:03:12,467 --> 00:03:14,467 Speaker 4: then when they've had the sort of full crew on board, 78 00:03:14,467 --> 00:03:15,747 Speaker 4: they just seem to make errors. 79 00:03:16,107 --> 00:03:16,947 Speaker 5: And whether that's. 80 00:03:16,787 --> 00:03:20,107 Speaker 4: Because they're sort of strategically or tactically a bit behind 81 00:03:20,187 --> 00:03:22,387 Speaker 4: the bit, behind the eight ball or q ball as 82 00:03:22,387 --> 00:03:25,067 Speaker 4: we'd stay and ask sneper over here in UK and 83 00:03:25,147 --> 00:03:27,347 Speaker 4: not seeing the you know, not seeing what's about to come, 84 00:03:27,627 --> 00:03:29,827 Speaker 4: or whether it is a is a pure mechanical thing 85 00:03:29,867 --> 00:03:31,747 Speaker 4: on board. But they've had a lot of practice over 86 00:03:31,747 --> 00:03:34,067 Speaker 4: the winter, so I definitely think season you know is 87 00:03:34,067 --> 00:03:37,547 Speaker 4: playing twenty five season, is there no excuse environment for them? 88 00:03:37,587 --> 00:03:41,187 Speaker 4: And yeah, they made handling errors. Basically they sailed pretty well, 89 00:03:41,227 --> 00:03:43,507 Speaker 4: but they made handling errors. And you get absolutely hammered 90 00:03:43,507 --> 00:03:44,027 Speaker 4: when you do that. 91 00:03:44,707 --> 00:03:48,067 Speaker 2: The Italians had, I guess an unhappy start to life 92 00:03:48,107 --> 00:03:49,987 Speaker 2: and do bay, but they were a lot bitter yasterday. 93 00:03:50,027 --> 00:03:52,587 Speaker 2: What did you make of the Italian chaste today in Auckland? 94 00:03:53,627 --> 00:03:54,467 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was impressed. 95 00:03:54,507 --> 00:03:56,787 Speaker 4: I mean they you know again, they had their they 96 00:03:56,787 --> 00:04:00,427 Speaker 4: had their French Kiwi Jason Saunders. I think he went 97 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:02,947 Speaker 4: to the Rio Games for the New Zealand team, didn't 98 00:04:02,947 --> 00:04:05,387 Speaker 4: he in the Nacular And so Jason comes with a 99 00:04:05,387 --> 00:04:08,787 Speaker 4: lot of experience and I you know, being from Auckland, 100 00:04:08,867 --> 00:04:11,907 Speaker 4: that can't that can't be a disadvantage of having that 101 00:04:11,907 --> 00:04:13,987 Speaker 4: little bit of local knowledge there. So I think Jason 102 00:04:14,067 --> 00:04:17,067 Speaker 4: coming on freed up Carl Langford to have a little 103 00:04:17,067 --> 00:04:19,947 Speaker 4: bit more bandwidth. And then you know Riggiero Tita two 104 00:04:19,947 --> 00:04:22,387 Speaker 4: Olympic gold medals. I mean, well you say that through 105 00:04:22,427 --> 00:04:24,467 Speaker 4: the whole fleet. I mean, what's great about sales GPS. 106 00:04:24,467 --> 00:04:26,747 Speaker 4: There's just talent from top to bottom, from the front 107 00:04:26,747 --> 00:04:27,907 Speaker 4: of the boat to the back of the boat. 108 00:04:27,907 --> 00:04:29,627 Speaker 5: Everyone's you know, achieved so much. 109 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:32,147 Speaker 4: So he's maybe almost a bit easy to just say 110 00:04:32,147 --> 00:04:34,667 Speaker 4: two Olympic gold medals, But for Ugi, he's going to 111 00:04:34,707 --> 00:04:38,147 Speaker 4: have a lot of expectation, Jimmy Spittill staring him down, 112 00:04:38,187 --> 00:04:40,307 Speaker 4: and potentially, I guess can always come in and drive 113 00:04:40,347 --> 00:04:42,467 Speaker 4: at some stage, although I don't think he wants to, 114 00:04:42,627 --> 00:04:44,787 Speaker 4: so I think just that little bit of experience with 115 00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:47,507 Speaker 4: Jason Waterhouse meant that they had two of the two 116 00:04:47,587 --> 00:04:50,187 Speaker 4: of the back three or back four positions, had a 117 00:04:50,187 --> 00:04:52,747 Speaker 4: lot of experience and that made a massive difference. 118 00:04:53,507 --> 00:04:56,867 Speaker 2: Huge anticipation about the tfoils and how they would affixed 119 00:04:56,867 --> 00:04:59,507 Speaker 2: things yesterday. How did you assist the way the teams 120 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,587 Speaker 2: negotiated the extra challenge of the of the high speed 121 00:05:02,587 --> 00:05:03,827 Speaker 2: titanium tfoils. 122 00:05:04,747 --> 00:05:06,107 Speaker 5: I was quite impressed. In general. 123 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:08,107 Speaker 4: I think the course was very short, so we didn't 124 00:05:08,147 --> 00:05:10,107 Speaker 4: necessarily see the full potential of it. 125 00:05:10,307 --> 00:05:12,227 Speaker 5: And what we did see was that as I say that, 126 00:05:12,267 --> 00:05:12,907 Speaker 5: I didn't think. 127 00:05:12,747 --> 00:05:15,827 Speaker 4: The maneuvers were as good and clearly that the you know, 128 00:05:15,827 --> 00:05:18,627 Speaker 4: these high speed foils they take a slightly different bit 129 00:05:18,627 --> 00:05:21,067 Speaker 4: of handling. The crews have got more, more options, more 130 00:05:21,107 --> 00:05:23,027 Speaker 4: functions to play with on them. Not only can they 131 00:05:23,067 --> 00:05:25,267 Speaker 4: move the foils forward and backwards to get higher or 132 00:05:25,347 --> 00:05:27,507 Speaker 4: lower in the water, they can also increase the potential 133 00:05:27,587 --> 00:05:30,347 Speaker 4: power in the boat with the sideways movement on them, 134 00:05:30,627 --> 00:05:32,827 Speaker 4: and there's people if you look at the data, are 135 00:05:32,907 --> 00:05:35,107 Speaker 4: using it all very differently. So I was impressed with 136 00:05:35,147 --> 00:05:36,787 Speaker 4: how they got on, but I thought the standard that 137 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:39,747 Speaker 4: staffing was down. They weren't judging the acceleration as well 138 00:05:39,747 --> 00:05:42,827 Speaker 4: as as we're perhaps used to seeing, and there were 139 00:05:42,867 --> 00:05:44,267 Speaker 4: still some errors in the maneuvers. 140 00:05:44,267 --> 00:05:45,587 Speaker 5: But Pete Berling. 141 00:05:45,267 --> 00:05:46,747 Speaker 4: Alluded to at the interview at the end of the 142 00:05:46,787 --> 00:05:49,667 Speaker 4: show yesterday it was at the bottom end of the 143 00:05:49,707 --> 00:05:52,307 Speaker 4: wind speed for those foils, and today is going to 144 00:05:52,307 --> 00:05:54,827 Speaker 4: be right in the sweet spot. So I'm sort of 145 00:05:55,467 --> 00:05:59,547 Speaker 4: fingers crossed, touching wood, hopeful maybe that we might see 146 00:05:59,587 --> 00:06:01,427 Speaker 4: over one hundred kilometers an hour and you know which 147 00:06:01,467 --> 00:06:03,067 Speaker 4: is you know, up in the fifty three fifty four 148 00:06:03,107 --> 00:06:05,507 Speaker 4: knots of boat speed range, which is just unbelievable. 149 00:06:05,547 --> 00:06:07,747 Speaker 5: So even boats getting close to that. 150 00:06:08,107 --> 00:06:11,107 Speaker 4: Into mark one, I think could be some spectacle. 151 00:06:11,547 --> 00:06:14,227 Speaker 2: Yeah, remarkable stuff. What what what have you picked up 152 00:06:14,267 --> 00:06:16,987 Speaker 2: over watching this over a period of time, Stevie, is 153 00:06:17,027 --> 00:06:20,907 Speaker 2: the really important things when it comes to sailing. If 154 00:06:20,947 --> 00:06:25,147 Speaker 2: fifties to their optimum capability, I feel like. 155 00:06:25,107 --> 00:06:27,587 Speaker 4: It's a real communication game, you know, I mean, obviously 156 00:06:27,627 --> 00:06:30,347 Speaker 4: your your audience there will be well versed in the 157 00:06:30,707 --> 00:06:33,707 Speaker 4: in the tales of Pete Berlin Blair Chu. But I 158 00:06:33,707 --> 00:06:36,027 Speaker 4: think you know Live McKay in the background, she does 159 00:06:36,067 --> 00:06:38,947 Speaker 4: a she does a fantastic job of knitting the coms together, 160 00:06:38,947 --> 00:06:40,827 Speaker 4: and it's just that ability to paint in the picture 161 00:06:41,227 --> 00:06:43,827 Speaker 4: round a race course and then have that almost telepathic 162 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:46,827 Speaker 4: communication between Pete and Blair. It was obviously Andy last 163 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:50,427 Speaker 4: year and they had those two Americas Cups together, three 164 00:06:50,427 --> 00:06:53,547 Speaker 4: America's Cups together, sorry now, so they had that experience 165 00:06:53,667 --> 00:06:56,467 Speaker 4: and I just think it is that team ship on 166 00:06:56,547 --> 00:06:58,707 Speaker 4: board the boat that allows you to sail the boat 167 00:06:59,107 --> 00:07:02,067 Speaker 4: instinctively at a very high level and then react to 168 00:07:02,147 --> 00:07:04,387 Speaker 4: the change in dynamic that that a sailing race always 169 00:07:04,387 --> 00:07:07,147 Speaker 4: throws your way and you know, the best guys keep 170 00:07:07,147 --> 00:07:09,227 Speaker 4: winning and there's a reason for that. And I do 171 00:07:09,307 --> 00:07:12,107 Speaker 4: think it's that team experience. You know, the Australian team 172 00:07:12,147 --> 00:07:15,387 Speaker 4: is an absolute core. Even the Spanish with with Diego 173 00:07:15,467 --> 00:07:17,787 Speaker 4: and Florian who you know who came along to to 174 00:07:17,787 --> 00:07:20,827 Speaker 4: sort of take the forty nine a gold last summer. 175 00:07:21,387 --> 00:07:23,547 Speaker 4: It's just that same time in the boat and almost 176 00:07:23,547 --> 00:07:26,467 Speaker 4: a telepathic teamship that you see with Pete and Blair, 177 00:07:26,867 --> 00:07:29,627 Speaker 4: you know the Australian team and the Spanish that swear 178 00:07:29,667 --> 00:07:31,267 Speaker 4: the bars so high from those teams. 179 00:07:31,667 --> 00:07:33,627 Speaker 2: All right, Well it's finished with a prediction for today. 180 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:37,307 Speaker 2: I know it's probably fraught with peril. Try to predict anything, 181 00:07:37,467 --> 00:07:41,187 Speaker 2: particularly with the wind likely to get up today. Stevie, 182 00:07:41,187 --> 00:07:43,147 Speaker 2: what are you what are you thinking? What are you hoping? 183 00:07:43,147 --> 00:07:45,107 Speaker 2: What are you predicting for this afternoon? 184 00:07:45,107 --> 00:07:48,067 Speaker 4: Well, I'm relatively confident of predicting the top three, so 185 00:07:48,107 --> 00:07:50,587 Speaker 4: I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you Australia, 186 00:07:50,627 --> 00:07:53,187 Speaker 4: New Zealand and Great Britain being in that final race. 187 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:56,427 Speaker 5: And then I think it's whoever gets to mark one first. 188 00:07:56,707 --> 00:07:58,867 Speaker 4: But I feel if anyone's got a slight edge at 189 00:07:58,867 --> 00:08:01,507 Speaker 4: the moment, it's the Australians, which your audience is not 190 00:08:01,507 --> 00:08:02,147 Speaker 4: going to like to hear. 191 00:08:02,227 --> 00:08:03,507 Speaker 5: But then you know, you don't. 192 00:08:03,587 --> 00:08:05,627 Speaker 4: You don't, you don't back against it, you don't bet 193 00:08:05,627 --> 00:08:07,947 Speaker 4: against the black for I mean, Pete, Pete in a 194 00:08:08,027 --> 00:08:11,547 Speaker 4: three boat final is exceptional at the starting Pete in 195 00:08:11,587 --> 00:08:13,907 Speaker 4: the eleven boats set up at the moment, I would 196 00:08:13,907 --> 00:08:16,267 Speaker 4: you know, I feel that's that's the sort of area 197 00:08:16,267 --> 00:08:18,507 Speaker 4: where they can improve which is worrying. 198 00:08:18,227 --> 00:08:19,027 Speaker 5: For the rest of the fleet. 199 00:08:19,427 --> 00:08:21,747 Speaker 3: All right, Absolutely loving the coverage, Stevie. 200 00:08:22,267 --> 00:08:24,867 Speaker 2: We'll look forward to hearing more of your voice on 201 00:08:24,907 --> 00:08:26,507 Speaker 2: the coverage this afternoon. But thank you so much for 202 00:08:26,587 --> 00:08:28,747 Speaker 2: joining us across New Zealand to give us your insight. 203 00:08:29,667 --> 00:08:32,147 Speaker 5: I really appreciate your time. Take care and hope it's 204 00:08:32,147 --> 00:08:32,667 Speaker 5: a great show. 205 00:08:33,307 --> 00:08:36,467 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 206 00:08:36,587 --> 00:08:39,867 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be weekends from midday, or follow 207 00:08:39,907 --> 00:08:41,467 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.