1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Right to the police. Apparently fifty seven percent of our 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: serving police officers have thought about resigning in the last year. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Now. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: This is according to a Police Association survey that found 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: pay and stress are the big factors behind that. Steve, 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: what is the Police Association president? 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 3: Hi? 8 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Steve calli Keery, Heather. It happens all the time, mate, 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: It happens all the time. But it was a claimer. Now, 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: is this real? Do you think or is this just 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: a passing thought and they've ticked the box. 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely real, and it just highlights what pressure 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: our officers are under. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: The jobs are risky jobs. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: It weighs heavily on our members' mental and emotional wellbeing, 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: and this is just a manifestation of the frustration and 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: the pressure that our members are under. 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that it is worse than previous years. 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: It's hard to tell. 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: It's the first first time that we've asked this question, 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: and the reason that we asked it was that there 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: was anecdotal evidence coming from our members that there was 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: a growing number that we're looking at leaving, so we 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: wanted to test that and this was the first year 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: that we did so. So it's hard to compare it 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: to other years, but sixty percent or neither on. Sixty 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: percent is definitely a concerning number. 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay. Now, Police HQ says everything's fine. The attrition rates 29 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: about five percent and heaps of people are coming back 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: from Australia and rejoining the force. What do you say 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: to that. 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: This isn't a number that can be ignored. 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: What the police and the government need to understand is 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: that there's reasons behind such a big number. Whilst they 35 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: may not be leaving yet, there's obviously a huge amount 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: of sentiment in behind a sixty percent You know number 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: of police that have contemplated leaving that can't be ignored. 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Can you just fix it with pay or do you 39 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: need something else here? 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: There's a number of issues. 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Pays obviously a very big one, but it's also about resourcing, 42 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: making sure that police have the numbers in the right place, 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: so that our members aren't having to do over time, 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: they're not having to work alone, they going to up 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: where they need to. 46 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: So it's a whole raft of things. 47 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: But ultimately one of the main reasons, how I mean, 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: the signal that they were looking to leave was pay. 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: All right, Steve, it's good to talk to you. Thank 50 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: you mate, Steve what Police Association President. 51 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: For more from Hither duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio