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Speaker 2: Hello, great new seals and welcome to Matta Tyler Full

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Speaker 2: Show Podcast number three oh three for the ninth of

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Speaker 2: March twenty twenty six. Good show today, I always say that,

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Speaker 2: but it was a really good show today. Lots of

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Speaker 2: great chats. I've really enjoyed the stuff at the in

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Speaker 2: the year about alcohol. We were talking about a doctor

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Speaker 2: who has said that a bit of ourcohol is probably

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Speaker 2: good for you in terms of stress relief, and then

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Speaker 2: it's sort of moved into people that have given up drinking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great hits and some good chat about road rage

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Speaker 5: Ah right, you've seen bazivily you listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoon

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome into Monday's show. Really great

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Speaker 3: to have you listening and as always, hope you had

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Speaker 3: a nice week whatever you got up to in this

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Speaker 3: lovely little country of ours. Hey do it Mets.

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Speaker 5: It's very good, very good, Thank you Tyler and yourself.

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Speaker 5: You had a great weekend. Although you know it was

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Speaker 5: boy that the Formula One yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Was tense, frustrating and you know after watching all, you know,

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Speaker 7: the practices and then qualifying and Liam just just getting

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Speaker 7: through at the end to beat his teammates and then

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Speaker 7: just that what happened at the start line.

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Speaker 4: It was a.

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Speaker 5: Heartbreaking but interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit Mario cart. It is a bit Mario.

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Speaker 5: Rigs are a bit Mario cart.

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Speaker 2: But you know, a bit harvest and then press your

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Speaker 2: spishal a little bit, a little bit button and go boost, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the booster and we'll see how that goes for the

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Speaker 2: next race. Whereas the next race, I should know this

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Speaker 2: from my head, that'll be in China, not in China,

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Speaker 2: looking forward to that.

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Speaker 3: Just before we get into today's show, can I just

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Speaker 3: mention a bit of an incident with a trade who

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Speaker 3: came round to the house on Saturday. Sure, so we

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Speaker 3: got told that there was someone going to come round

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Speaker 3: to sort out the hedges up and down the back

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Speaker 3: there's some pretty unruly hedges going on, and I should

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Speaker 3: turn up. So we heard some noise Saturday morning about

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Speaker 3: sort of seven o'clock. We're in bed and hearing some

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Speaker 3: So of course I get up, I have a look around.

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Speaker 3: And of course I had to literally grab Pepper and

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Speaker 3: come on, what did you think was going to happen?

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Speaker 5: And but also what time did you ride to? Say?

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Speaker 5: Seven seven? You should have been up for two hours,

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Speaker 3: That's pretty early. Doors on the hedgetrummer though, seven seven

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, let's get into today show after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Why ever talk about booze? A New Zealand Herald article.

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Speaker 3: heavy drinking is harmful, moderate alcohol consumption, such as a

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Speaker 3: life's pressures when you're not a drinker can actually do

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Speaker 3: more harm than sitting down having a beer and thinking, Ah,

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Speaker 3: that's nice, we'll take a little bit of stress off

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Speaker 2: Round of alcohol discussion continues. You know, Andrew Human the

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Speaker 2: Neuroscientists and podcast recently said no alcohol at all was

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Speaker 2: the best option because you know, he says that lowers

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Speaker 2: you stress, right, but it also stops you sleeping, and

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Speaker 2: the best stress reliever is a good night's sleep, right yep,

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Speaker 2: And even one glass of alcohol will badly affect your

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Speaker 3: Right, yes, yes, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There is one thing that alcohol can definitely do. It

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Speaker 2: whether it solves that problem going forward. You know, as

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Speaker 2: Homer said, alcohol the cause of an answer to all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's paying for future happiness. Back, keen on your

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Speaker 3: want to talk about road rage. This is after a

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Speaker 3: rage exit at tech in Papacuda. This was after a

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Speaker 5: Not hear of, but it does seem that people.

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Speaker 2: Are getting angrier and there's more violence as a result

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Speaker 2: of road rage chief on the roads. So is that

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Speaker 5: You with a tire.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might feel you're in the right Yeah, until yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like what evan to Ali?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you tempering the way you behave on

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at the wastewater stats. There's a

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know people that have been up on the

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Speaker 2: getting flipped the bird. Yeah, So are you is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it wiser just to let things go? And how

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Speaker 2: of someone you know, stomping your face like this guy,

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Speaker 2: poor bugedly stomped on the face when he's already when

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Speaker 3: Horrendous. But looking forward to that discussion after two o'clock

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Speaker 3: is right now. We want to have a chat about

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Speaker 3: fuel security in New Zealand. An article Newsroom suggests that

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Speaker 3: the escalating conflict involving Iran, particularly the risk of disruption

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Speaker 3: are in terms of fuel security. The Strait is responsible

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Speaker 3: any interruption to shipping could quickly push up prices and

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Speaker 3: disrupt global supply. New Zealand is especially exposed because it

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Speaker 3: imports its refined fuel and has limited domestic storage, leaving

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Speaker 3: us heavily reliant on long, fragile supply chain. So currently

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Speaker 3: New Zealand can hold about twenty eight days of petrol,

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Speaker 9: We've now got wholesalers saying that they're going to start

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Speaker 9: reserving applies and that we may even get to rationing.

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Speaker 9: So it looks like it's going to keep going up.

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Speaker 9: How much fuel? How many days of fuel? And I

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Speaker 10: Well, that's better than us. We're twenty five in a.

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Speaker 9: Bit, we're five weeks, you're even less. I mean, I

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Speaker 9: don't know how we can let that happen. I mean,

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Speaker 9: if you shut the shipping lanes down out of Singapore,

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Speaker 9: we don't refine petrol in this country anymore. All of

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Speaker 9: our oil refineries have been shut so we rely on

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Speaker 9: we had a major incident in our region and they

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Speaker 9: shut down the shipping lanes, we revote.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, Australia would be buggets and arguably

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Speaker 3: you've got to say we would be more buggered. And

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Speaker 3: when it comes to Steve's arguments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not saying that this particular crisis will end

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Speaker 2: in major fuel shortages in New Zealand will lead to

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Speaker 2: price increases, which could be an economy economy hard But

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Speaker 2: this isn't the only type of crisis, you know, as

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Speaker 2: steep price is one in the area, one in the

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Speaker 2: South China Sea, A bunch of crisis is at the

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Speaker 2: same time, and suddenly we don't have more than a month.

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Speaker 5: Worth of fuel. And then what happens? What happens to

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Speaker 5: New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely everything runs on well not it's an exaggeration, but

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Speaker 2: everything has a fossil fuel contingent and oil based contingent

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 5: In this country.

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Speaker 3: If you break down the economy, there is not many industries.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't rely on fuel to keep it humming and

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Speaker 3: to keep it going.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Agriculture, transport would slow, supermarkets would run short pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Aviation would stop immediately. Yeah, and we're girthed by sea,

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Speaker 2: so aviation would be a super problem. Parts of the

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Speaker 5: Agriculture would slow. You know, there's a serious, serious need

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Speaker 3: Ninety two ninety two is the text number coming up

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Speaker 3: But share your story. Oh, e one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: That'd be It is nineteen past one. So the conflict

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Speaker 3: very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 13: Very good afternoon to here as well.

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Speaker 2: Now Terry Zeelands fuel supply chain has been described as

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Speaker 5: What does that exactly mean?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it look just to correct one thing. We talked

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Speaker 13: That obligation is going back to industry soon. So we

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Speaker 13: will have twenty eight days of diesel, twenty eight days

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Speaker 3: Okay, good to clarify that. So just going back to

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Speaker 13: Well, basically, everything's on either we've got a limited amount

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Speaker 13: We'll basically lined up every couple of days to keep

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Speaker 2: Now, how long does different fuels because this is really

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Speaker 5: Because of course.

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Speaker 2: Crude oil you can store for a very very long time,

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Speaker 2: but gasoline, aviation fuel and diesel not so long, right,

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Speaker 2: So it's not like we can just stockpile fuel and

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Speaker 13: No it's not. And look there's a our commercial style.

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Speaker 13: These are all cost to it. Building all those bunkers

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Speaker 13: What they've tried to do to government is balance the

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Speaker 2: No, now, so people say bring back Marsden point, that

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Speaker 5: Six seven billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: And maybe six years, just to roughly estimate or pull

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Speaker 5: So what is the solution here then.

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Speaker 13: Well, realistically the refinery is somewhere between six and sixteen

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Speaker 13: it didn't disrupt any of the supply. What we've got

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Speaker 2: But that's only twenty percent of the fuel supply, right,

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Speaker 5: That is that correct hearing.

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Speaker 13: We don't get it directly from there, But it's an

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Speaker 13: how the government manages that, it does a couple of things.

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Speaker 13: When it keeps these twenty eight days of diesel petrol

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Speaker 13: What that means physically is about seventy percent of the

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Speaker 13: We will focus to get that ninety days worth of

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Speaker 3: How reliable are those tickets terry when you know there

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're down the list. Is that a possibility

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Speaker 13: Well, it might be that they mightn't be able to

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Speaker 13: Even though they may wish to obligate on the obligation,

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are texting a similar question there

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Speaker 2: if we have twenty eight days of fuel reserves, how

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Speaker 13: Because basically they look that your companies do a replacement.

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Speaker 13: So because every a couple of days if something coming,

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Speaker 13: a simplest way of putting it. So that's the pricing model.

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Speaker 13: So we assuming these prices go up. We didn't expect it

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Speaker 8: A little while.

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Speaker 13: But I did expect it to go up, but not immediately.

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Speaker 13: But this week prices will go up with the recent

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Speaker 2: Well, what is the solution to our fuel security if

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Speaker 13: Terry, Well, we don't have much of Well, the recent

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Speaker 13: But we've got a very slow uptake on evs, which

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Speaker 3: So you've mentioned three. You're a couple of things here,

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Speaker 3: Terry and I'll try and break it down. And we

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Speaker 3: We've got twenty eight days on average on various types

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Speaker 3: Are you worried about our fuel security here? When I

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Speaker 3: What's your view on it? And if we are in trouble,

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Speaker 13: Were the mercy of the international events right now the

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Speaker 13: which will sustain those higher prices.

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Speaker 2: Is there any way to store fuel longer? Gasoline, diesel fuel,

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Speaker 13: You're thinking you're buying it and storing it goes off

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Speaker 13: after that three months, it gets all varnishing and kind

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Speaker 3: Even at the industry level that if we were serious

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Speaker 13: Well, remember when you've got storage, you've always got new

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Speaker 2: And finally, you said before about EV uptake being not

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Speaker 13: Globally, the impact on the electricity systems coming from AI

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Speaker 3: Terry, thank you very much for joining us and your expertise.

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Speaker 3: That is AA Fuel spokesperson Terry Colins. So what do

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Speaker 3: into the likes of what some people are taxing through

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Speaker 3: tough times. Nineteen ninety two is the text number. It

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the make asking breakfast.

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Speaker 10: To Prime Minister is whether us did you spend any

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Speaker 13: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 10: The other headline was pressure is mounting?

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Speaker 5: Is the pressure mounting?

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Speaker 14: No, there's pressure in this job every day, but my

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Speaker 14: to make sure we lower the cost of living by

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Speaker 14: growing the economy.

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Speaker 5: Do the media then literally make this stuff up?

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Speaker 14: You have to ask them as a politician criticizing the media,

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Speaker 14: that's just a fruitless exercise.

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Speaker 3: To nowhere.

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Speaker 10: You will be the leader of the National Party and

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Speaker 10: therefore Prime Minister up until election day of November seven, hand,

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Speaker 10: on heart and on heart absolutely back tomorrow at six

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Speaker 10: am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Mayby's Real Estate News

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Speaker 10: Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You so, are you worried about our

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Speaker 3: vulnerability to fuel shocks and our reliance on shipping it

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Speaker 3: in our eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: that number to call? Nine two ninety two is the text?

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Speaker 5: Get out and walk like I do? Says Roy. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if that's a solution, that we just all walk.

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Speaker 3: Pretty hard to run an economy on just walking, well.

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Speaker 2: Walking runs on eating, and running out of fuel would

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Speaker 2: be incredibly bad for our food supply chain and our

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Speaker 2: ability to produce food, very true, our ability to stock

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Speaker 2: the shells on a supermarket. If China and India can,

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Speaker 2: and Europe can buy cheap fuel from Russia, then so

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Speaker 2: can we. I want cheap gas, don't care from who

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Speaker 2: or and where. Yeah, I don't think that's really a solution.

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Speaker 3: No, this one's interesting today, guys. The three months extra

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Speaker 3: is a joke slash meaningless. If war goes on three

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Speaker 3: or more weeks, so it will not physically be able

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Speaker 3: to be fulfilled by Singapore and Terry did mention that

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Speaker 3: and this one here guys. US refineries will be happy

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Speaker 3: they now have access to Venezuela oil field. So I

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Speaker 3: wonder how long will take them to start as applying

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Speaker 3: oil to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who thinks renewable energy as sevavior doesn't understand physics,

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Speaker 2: wind and solar doesn't have the grunt or reliability to

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Speaker 2: run advanced tech or industry, let alone the fact China,

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Speaker 2: a bad player, has total control of batteries and renewable tech.

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Speaker 2: Oil still plays a huge part in an each production

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Speaker 2: and also until something viable is available.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

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Speaker 3: number to call? So are you worried about our vulnerability

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Speaker 3: to fuel shops and our reliance on shipping it in?

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Speaker 3: Share your view headlines with Raylean coming.

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Speaker 12: Up US talk said, be headlines with.

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Speaker 15: Your righte New Zealand's number one taxi app Download your

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Speaker 15: Supreme Leader will take up the mantle is being seen

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Speaker 15: as a sign of defiance against the attacking by US

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Speaker 15: and Israel. Australia is weighing up whether to offer defensive

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Speaker 15: support for Gulf nations being hit by strikes from Iran

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Speaker 15: nurses and union members are thronging on Parliament's lawns calling

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Speaker 15: for pay equity, one bringing a trolley of groceries, illustrating

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Speaker 15: how much unequal pay means in real terms. A white

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Speaker 15: cuttle dog breeder is being allowed to own up to

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Speaker 15: ten dogs, down from forty for her safety at her

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Speaker 15: rural porquinor property. She'd been banned for neglecting animals in

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Speaker 15: her care. The search for a person swept out to

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Speaker 15: see at Blaketown near Greymouth is into its third day,

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Speaker 15: but hampered by rough seas. The Ministry of Justice is

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Speaker 15: working towards demolishing Graymouth's more than a century old courthouse,

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Speaker 15: which has been ruled dangerous and hasn't sold for a

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Speaker 15: dollar if consented. Local historians salvage heritage materials and photographic

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Speaker 15: records of the courts. Corrupt cop jailed for leaking police

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Speaker 15: intelligence to gang member lover you can get the full story,

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Speaker 15: and said here we'll premium back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylean. So how concerned are you

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Speaker 3: about our vulnerability to fuel shortages? Given how much we

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Speaker 3: rely on imports. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is that number to call, and the text number is

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Speaker 3: nine to nine two. Share your views. Plenty of texts

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Speaker 3: coming through this one. Yes, we should be at the

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Speaker 3: moment it's twenty eight days, but it should be more

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Speaker 3: like ninety days. Maybe how many ships is that? And

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Speaker 3: what if they get blown up?

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Speaker 8: Shame?

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Speaker 3: We are not partly self sufficient and quickly this one.

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Speaker 3: The war with Iran is more than just about regime change.

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Speaker 3: It's about controlling oil supply networks. And we will see

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Speaker 3: more to come. Keep those texts coming through on nine

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Speaker 3: to nine two, Anne, Marie, how are you this afternoon time?

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Speaker 11: All right?

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Speaker 16: How are you good?

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Speaker 11: Interesting things have been brought up already, But I just

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Speaker 11: had I guess something I wouldn't mind some more accurate

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Speaker 11: information about. It's not something I've looked into much myself,

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Speaker 11: or anything thinking about sort of our sort of invention

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Speaker 11: research kind of things I have quite fond of memories of.

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Speaker 11: I guess some form of is this in the bio

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Speaker 11: fuel thing like re recycling? I guess fish and chip oil.

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Speaker 11: I had quite sort of quite like the idea of

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Speaker 11: fish and chip smell being everywhere, But is that around

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Speaker 11: like conversion of motors or where are we at with biofuels?

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Speaker 11: And I sort of remember, I think it was just

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Speaker 11: last week in New Zealand. I think had some they

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Speaker 11: doing some research into biofuelds and were sort of being

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Speaker 11: encouraged by the government to do that less or something

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Speaker 11: New Zealand last week for something to do with with

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Speaker 11: bo fuel.

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Speaker 5: What are you in New Zealand likes to do?

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Speaker 2: Is it will give you paper cups and cardboard knives

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Speaker 2: and forks and say that it pulls a hanger out

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Speaker 2: of wood and say that's sustainable. But in the end

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Speaker 2: their model is blasting aviation fuel out the back of

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Speaker 2: their planes as much as they possibly can.

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Speaker 11: Okay, so that's a nice So in general, though, where

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Speaker 11: are we at with like for cars and things? Otherwise

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Speaker 11: I'm kind of promoting horses again really and we're smaller

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Speaker 11: than Australia, so I don't think, you know, I think

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Speaker 11: potentially we can sort of maybe not it would maybe

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Speaker 11: be a little bit easier because we're kind of closer

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Speaker 11: to each other. That might help for something.

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Speaker 3: It's a good question, and I'm just looking at the

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Speaker 3: latest when it comes to where we were at with biofuel.

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Speaker 3: But like a lot of these options, it seems to

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Speaker 3: be something that was much hyped originally, and then the

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Speaker 3: hard work starts, and the hard work to transition it

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Speaker 3: out and figure out how it's going to integrate with

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Speaker 3: the infrastructure we've got. That's always where the rubber meets

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Speaker 3: the road, quite literally, So I'll do a bit more digging.

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Speaker 3: But that's the tricky part, right and the free technologies.

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Speaker 3: But it's like eve that was long tilted and it

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Speaker 3: still is in some quarters. But again, where's that infrastructure

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Speaker 3: and how do you have people? If you're going to

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Speaker 3: have even fifty percent of our fleet powered by electric,

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Speaker 3: how is that going to run? What sort of load

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Speaker 3: is that going to put on the grid, And where's

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Speaker 3: all the infrastructure charging? And how long does it take

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Speaker 3: to charge? So all of those questions come into it,

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Speaker 3: and I imagine it's the same with bofuel.

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Speaker 11: Yeah sorry, I wasn't your postal, and yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's just my thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Again, Tyler just started speaking and I didn't shut up.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, if you call amory.

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Speaker 2: I think the problem with biofuel is it's a nice idea,

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Speaker 2: but there's it takes up a lot of land and

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Speaker 2: you have to put a lot.

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Speaker 5: Into it to get it out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, one of the reasons why crude

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Speaker 2: oil has been so successful is because you pull out

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Speaker 2: of the ground and it's incredibly.

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Speaker 5: Powerful what you get out of it. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think it's like, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: You get a heck tear of wheat would run one

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Speaker 2: or two cars free, you know. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 2: remember the exact figures, but they were up like that,

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times when people are working with biofuels,

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Speaker 2: they're also using fossil fuels to harvest and do a

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Speaker 2: lot of the back in. So it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a trick.

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Speaker 3: So efficiency question whether that yeah, lines up with fossil fuels.

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Speaker 2: There are some things, you know, like forestry wastage and

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Speaker 2: agricultural waste and like city waste that people have tried

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Speaker 2: to do it, but currently still you have to pump

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Speaker 2: a lot of energy in to get some energy out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And Marie, thank you very much for giving us

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Speaker 3: a buzz could to get your THOUGHTSZ eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number? Are you worried about

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Speaker 3: our vulnerability when it comes to how much fuel we

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Speaker 3: have on standby nine to nine two is a text.

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Speaker 2: The US doesn't rely on the Strait of Homas for oil,

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Speaker 2: China does. When the US takes full control of the

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Speaker 2: Strait of Homas, they will control the flow of oil

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Speaker 2: to China, says this text, and by default New Zealand

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Speaker 2: they may choose to hold China to ransom, which could

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Speaker 2: affect how we get out oil or could lead to.

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Speaker 5: Conflict with China.

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Speaker 3: Grim is eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons with Scoda.

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Speaker 12: Can you crack the Scoter code news Talks?

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Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon sere It is a quarter

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Speaker 3: to two. So do you think our reliance on overseas

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Speaker 3: fuel shipments leaves us too exposed to supply shocks of

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighties the number to call?

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Speaker 5: Jeff, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, good afternoon, it's very interesting. And listening to.

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Speaker 18: The guy for the.

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Speaker 3: AA, Terry Collins, the.

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Speaker 17: I would suggest that his figures are pretty pretty accurate.

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Speaker 17: He's not an alarmist, he's a realist, and I'm also

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Speaker 17: a realist. Wasn't that many years ago, I had a car,

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Speaker 17: two cars.

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Speaker 19: Running one on LPG one CNJ, yes, right, and where

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Speaker 19: I'm going right now, I'll be running my hopefully running

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Speaker 19: my vehicles on either hydrogen or me.

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Speaker 17: Say, of which we have plenty, you know. And I

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Speaker 17: don't know why we don't look at alternatives. We should

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Speaker 17: have been looking at alternatives years ago. And you're not

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Speaker 17: talking about something out of science fiction or sort of

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Speaker 17: space odyssey or whatever you want to call it. It's

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Speaker 17: actually a reality that's been it's been a production basically

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Speaker 17: for the last forty years. So I don't quite see.

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Speaker 17: You know, the last government has concreed it up the

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Speaker 17: inlets if you like to call Marsden Point, which I

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Speaker 17: believe is industrial espino, you know, yeah, well, I mean.

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Speaker 5: The government didn't own mars And Point though, that was.

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Speaker 17: You know, May, but who's sealed it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would have been an interesting situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how this would have played out if

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Speaker 2: you kept Marsden Point going and bringing crud in and

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Speaker 2: leaving it there idling. I'm not even sure if that

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Speaker 2: was pos such that you could tend it into fuel

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Speaker 2: that we could use in times of emergency, because as

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Speaker 2: we were saying before it you can't keep crude. You

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Speaker 2: can't keep crude. You can keep crude for a very

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Speaker 2: long time, but not gasoline and aviation fuel and diesel.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know who that was that was possible,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. Also don't know who would have

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Speaker 2: paid for it if we decided to keep Mars and point.

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Speaker 17: Just there as a strategy that we've got a situation

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Speaker 17: an alltime right now with watercare polluting the hierarchy, golf

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Speaker 17: which happens to be a marine reserve. Now there's spending

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Speaker 17: billions and billions and billions of our dollars putting it

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Speaker 17: out into the sea. They are so arrogant that they

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Speaker 17: won't look at an alternative is to bring it back

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Speaker 17: onto land and dealing with it on land, and it

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Speaker 17: could be turned into fed lighter, it could be turned

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Speaker 17: into a whole heap of things combined with other stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: they're so arrogant they won't even look at it.

658
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Speaker 2: You know, think you for your call, Jeff, Yeah, that

659
00:32:05,453 --> 00:32:07,973
Speaker 2: the problem is in this. It always comes back back

660
00:32:07,973 --> 00:32:08,973
Speaker 2: to this, right That.

661
00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:15,533
Speaker 5: Fuel is just it's you know, crude oil.

662
00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:19,613
Speaker 2: However you process it is just packed with energy. It's

663
00:32:19,653 --> 00:32:23,693
Speaker 2: so energy dense compared to other forms of fuel. It's

664
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Speaker 2: so easy to store and easy to transport comparatively, right, Yeah,

665
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Speaker 2: And so no one's really willing at any given time

666
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Speaker 2: to take the kind of financial hit it would mean

667
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:36,773
Speaker 2: to change away from it in any meaningful.

668
00:32:36,293 --> 00:32:38,213
Speaker 5: Fashion spot on that. They just won't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean you could. They could have invested a

671
00:32:41,613 --> 00:32:44,013
Speaker 2: lot of stuff and everything. We could have kept Mars

672
00:32:44,013 --> 00:32:46,853
Speaker 2: and Point open or whatever. But at the time we were like, well,

673
00:32:46,933 --> 00:32:49,613
Speaker 2: it has just makes so much more sense to import

674
00:32:49,653 --> 00:32:52,613
Speaker 2: the fuel and get it processed and the mega refineries

675
00:32:52,653 --> 00:32:53,213
Speaker 2: over in Asia.

676
00:32:53,293 --> 00:32:56,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, highly efficient, and the good times yeah yeah, yeah,

677
00:32:56,573 --> 00:32:57,933
Speaker 3: but any problem comes.

678
00:32:57,693 --> 00:33:01,613
Speaker 2: Every decision is made about the economy at that given point,

679
00:33:01,653 --> 00:33:04,573
Speaker 2: and what's the best decision to make at that particular

680
00:33:04,613 --> 00:33:08,973
Speaker 2: point and at any particular point in history, Since it's

681
00:33:09,013 --> 00:33:12,413
Speaker 2: been a big part of how everything runs, it.

682
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:14,213
Speaker 5: Has always made more.

683
00:33:13,973 --> 00:33:17,133
Speaker 2: Sense economically to keep using just such a high energy

684
00:33:17,173 --> 00:33:20,493
Speaker 2: density fuels as crude oil.

685
00:33:20,733 --> 00:33:22,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what do you say, I W one hundred

686
00:33:22,693 --> 00:33:24,853
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two?

687
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:27,893
Speaker 3: Nine two? Is the text? Are you uneasy about how

688
00:33:27,933 --> 00:33:30,373
Speaker 3: dependent we are on imported fuel and the risks that

689
00:33:30,533 --> 00:33:33,613
Speaker 3: may or may not come with it back very shortly.

690
00:33:33,733 --> 00:33:34,933
Speaker 3: It is eleven to two.

691
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Speaker 1: Matd Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

692
00:33:39,733 --> 00:33:40,613
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 12: It's Mad Heathen Tylor Adams. Afternoons NEWSTALGSB.

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Speaker 3: News talks THEREB it is eight to two Simon, how

695
00:33:48,773 --> 00:33:49,053
Speaker 3: are you?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, not too bad. Thanks. I'm kind of in the

697
00:33:55,253 --> 00:34:02,493
Speaker 18: energy industry myself, and like you've heard all the stuff

698
00:34:02,533 --> 00:34:06,093
Speaker 18: going around with bio skills and all this, and these

699
00:34:06,133 --> 00:34:11,852
Speaker 18: are just gimmicks. What we're trying got to do worldwide

700
00:34:12,013 --> 00:34:15,893
Speaker 18: is actually reduced our COO that we're putting into the environment.

701
00:34:16,893 --> 00:34:21,053
Speaker 18: And the best way, like the biofuels, they still burn oils.

702
00:34:21,293 --> 00:34:25,772
Speaker 18: It still takes fuel to make those oils, and they're

703
00:34:25,813 --> 00:34:29,652
Speaker 18: still spelling CO two into the atmosphere. The best thing

704
00:34:29,693 --> 00:34:34,212
Speaker 18: that's going to come out that put people's energy securities

705
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:39,093
Speaker 18: is the development of hydrogen as a fuel cell for

706
00:34:39,213 --> 00:34:42,333
Speaker 18: your car. It's the closest thing that we got to

707
00:34:42,373 --> 00:34:45,333
Speaker 18: the convenience of oil, which is a liquid that sits

708
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:49,453
Speaker 18: in your car doesn't lose its energy over time you

709
00:34:49,493 --> 00:34:52,493
Speaker 18: come back to your car. That liquid energy, much like fuel,

710
00:34:52,693 --> 00:34:55,813
Speaker 18: is still the same ready to go. And with our

711
00:34:56,173 --> 00:35:03,813
Speaker 18: electrical generation there is only one green friendly, sustainable way

712
00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:08,093
Speaker 18: and that's hydropower. The fact that wind and sun only

713
00:35:08,933 --> 00:35:13,413
Speaker 18: work when there's wind at the sun was hydropower. Again,

714
00:35:13,493 --> 00:35:15,333
Speaker 18: you've got the stored energy in a reservoir.

715
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Speaker 5: Have we got any more lakes that you would like

716
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Speaker 5: to see us?

717
00:35:17,693 --> 00:35:17,893
Speaker 1: Damn?

718
00:35:18,013 --> 00:35:19,413
Speaker 2: Do you think we'd be able to get that across

719
00:35:19,453 --> 00:35:21,013
Speaker 2: the line?

720
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Speaker 18: I think yeah, Like the Greenies will never like a

721
00:35:24,093 --> 00:35:27,453
Speaker 18: huge lake, though they lay claim to help in the

722
00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:31,213
Speaker 18: hydro power that we have got. And as said, she

723
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:34,213
Speaker 18: tells you they protested against it back in the seventies

724
00:35:34,293 --> 00:35:37,573
Speaker 18: and eighties. But it's not a case of needing the

725
00:35:37,853 --> 00:35:41,773
Speaker 18: huge lake. It's having separate reservoirs and valleys that all

726
00:35:41,773 --> 00:35:44,453
Speaker 18: feed into it, that are all collect in the water.

727
00:35:44,693 --> 00:35:46,573
Speaker 18: The big thing is you've got to collect the water.

728
00:35:47,093 --> 00:35:50,453
Speaker 18: If the water runs through and it doesn't turn a turnbine,

729
00:35:50,813 --> 00:35:53,373
Speaker 18: then it's just lost energy. And we have a lot

730
00:35:53,373 --> 00:35:55,293
Speaker 18: of water that falls on New Zealand and just makes

731
00:35:55,293 --> 00:35:57,573
Speaker 18: it straight to the sea that we you know, we

732
00:35:57,893 --> 00:36:02,213
Speaker 18: probably only capture zero point something scent of it and

733
00:36:02,253 --> 00:36:03,533
Speaker 18: actually turn into energy.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's weeks of an appetite in New

735
00:36:05,453 --> 00:36:08,493
Speaker 2: Zealand to invest those kind of figures, you know, going

736
00:36:08,493 --> 00:36:10,172
Speaker 2: back to the Clyde Down for example.

737
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Speaker 18: We're a little old New Zealand now, you know, put

738
00:36:15,093 --> 00:36:17,813
Speaker 18: out the fire as the fires or each taken over

739
00:36:17,813 --> 00:36:21,093
Speaker 18: the fire kind of mentality. But thank God for the

740
00:36:21,093 --> 00:36:24,333
Speaker 18: mold doing days that actually invested in the high power.

741
00:36:24,893 --> 00:36:25,973
Speaker 18: Where would we be now?

742
00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:28,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, future proofing is expensive, no doubt about it.

743
00:36:28,573 --> 00:36:32,013
Speaker 2: I think big ladies and gentlemen, well there is I

744
00:36:32,013 --> 00:36:34,013
Speaker 2: would say say, there's no real risk of us running

745
00:36:34,013 --> 00:36:36,853
Speaker 2: out of gasoline, diesel and aviation from this time around.

746
00:36:36,893 --> 00:36:39,413
Speaker 2: You you would think who knows, But you know, who

747
00:36:39,413 --> 00:36:41,853
Speaker 2: knows what happened in the future. What if fare was

748
00:36:41,973 --> 00:36:44,853
Speaker 2: unrest in the Middle East and the South China Sea

749
00:36:44,853 --> 00:36:46,653
Speaker 2: at the same time, that would make things interesting.

750
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Speaker 5: What if the ship stopped.

751
00:36:47,493 --> 00:36:49,413
Speaker 2: Being able to make it to New Zealand at all,

752
00:36:49,773 --> 00:36:51,652
Speaker 2: that would be a disaster. Because, no matter how much

753
00:36:51,693 --> 00:36:53,773
Speaker 2: we would like it to be different, we are almost

754
00:36:53,773 --> 00:36:57,373
Speaker 2: completely reliant on oil and it all comes from overseas.

755
00:36:57,733 --> 00:37:00,653
Speaker 2: So maybe we should look seriously into our fuel security.

756
00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:02,973
Speaker 2: But my feeling is we won't because it's too expensive

757
00:37:03,013 --> 00:37:04,173
Speaker 2: and we're quite broke as it is.

758
00:37:04,573 --> 00:37:05,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's.

759
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Speaker 5: This will pass and then we'll won't think about it

760
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:10,173
Speaker 5: again for a while until another disaster comes up, and

761
00:37:10,213 --> 00:37:11,493
Speaker 5: then we'll talk about it again then.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Spot On nicely said thank you to everyone who called

764
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Speaker 3: and contributed to that discussion. Thank you as always really

765
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Speaker 3: enjoyed that. Coming up after two o'clock, we do want

766
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Speaker 3: to have a chat about road rage. This is after

767
00:37:23,213 --> 00:37:25,213
Speaker 3: a twenty year old man was seriously injured in a

768
00:37:25,293 --> 00:37:28,253
Speaker 3: road rage attack in Papa Kuda. This was after a

769
00:37:28,293 --> 00:37:31,413
Speaker 3: dispute while merging on the road escalated. The victim, ray

770
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Speaker 3: Ez Ally, He was dragged out of his van, knocked

771
00:37:34,013 --> 00:37:37,933
Speaker 3: unconscious and stomped on before the offender drove away. He

772
00:37:38,013 --> 00:37:40,933
Speaker 3: lost two front teeth, suffered a fractured jaw and severe

773
00:37:41,013 --> 00:37:44,173
Speaker 3: facial bruising. Horrendous. But the question we've got for you

774
00:37:44,293 --> 00:37:47,413
Speaker 3: is have you changed how you respond to bad driving

775
00:37:47,533 --> 00:37:50,213
Speaker 3: in light of increased road rage attacks? So wait, one

776
00:37:50,253 --> 00:37:52,732
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Nine

777
00:37:52,733 --> 00:37:56,213
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text? Share your story if

778
00:37:56,213 --> 00:37:59,172
Speaker 3: you've been in a road rage incident recently. We are

779
00:37:59,213 --> 00:38:01,293
Speaker 3: really keen to have a chat with you. New sport

780
00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:03,693
Speaker 3: and weather is coming up great. Da Have your company

781
00:38:03,773 --> 00:38:06,333
Speaker 3: is always on. This Monday afternoon, you're listening to Matton Tyler.

782
00:38:06,573 --> 00:38:08,933
Speaker 3: Stay right here. We will be back very soon.

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Speaker 8: Time flies twice.

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Speaker 1: Of big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

785
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Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon

786
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Speaker 1: Squat Shoda News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. You welcome back into the show. Seven

788
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Speaker 3: pass too. Let's discuss road rage. This is after a

789
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Speaker 3: pretty horrendous incident. A twenty year old man was badly

790
00:38:57,853 --> 00:39:01,413
Speaker 3: injured in this road rage incident in Papakuda after a

791
00:39:01,413 --> 00:39:04,573
Speaker 3: disagreement while merging on the road escalated. So the victim,

792
00:39:04,613 --> 00:39:07,973
Speaker 3: his name is Reyes Ali. He said another driver followed

793
00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:11,933
Speaker 3: him through several streets before confronting him at a railway crossing.

794
00:39:12,013 --> 00:39:15,212
Speaker 3: The man was allegedly this is Ali, allegedly pulled from

795
00:39:15,213 --> 00:39:18,813
Speaker 3: his van, noted unconscious and repeatedly stomped on before the

796
00:39:18,853 --> 00:39:21,973
Speaker 3: attacker fled. He lost two front teeth and suffered a

797
00:39:21,973 --> 00:39:26,093
Speaker 3: fracture daw along with significant facial bruising. As you can imagine,

798
00:39:26,093 --> 00:39:30,253
Speaker 3: police are investigating the assault and anyone with information asked

799
00:39:30,293 --> 00:39:32,373
Speaker 3: to contact the police. If you want to have a

800
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:34,453
Speaker 3: look at that story, it's on the Herald and there's

801
00:39:34,453 --> 00:39:38,652
Speaker 3: a picture of a lee. It is pretty confronting. He

802
00:39:38,933 --> 00:39:42,813
Speaker 3: was absolutely set upon by I think you can call

803
00:39:42,893 --> 00:39:46,893
Speaker 3: this this particular person a scumbag, but share your story.

804
00:39:46,933 --> 00:39:50,053
Speaker 3: When it comes to road rage, has the rise and

805
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:53,053
Speaker 3: incidents that we are seeing changed the way you respond

806
00:39:53,093 --> 00:39:57,933
Speaker 3: when you encounter bad driving? I assume, considering the number

807
00:39:57,933 --> 00:40:02,333
Speaker 3: that we're seeing in the papers and anecdotally what you

808
00:40:02,413 --> 00:40:05,573
Speaker 3: see on the road, the old use of a horn

809
00:40:06,453 --> 00:40:10,613
Speaker 3: when you encounter bad behavior risky for a lot of people.

810
00:40:10,693 --> 00:40:13,293
Speaker 3: I feel that way someone cuts me off of does

811
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Speaker 3: something dicky. I am loath to use my horn because

812
00:40:17,813 --> 00:40:19,733
Speaker 3: that has got me into trouble a couple of times

813
00:40:19,813 --> 00:40:21,653
Speaker 3: in the last ten years. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you listen to what I look at,

815
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Speaker 2: wastewater stats would appear there a lot more myth has

816
00:40:28,253 --> 00:40:30,333
Speaker 2: been consumed in my country, and I think there's a

817
00:40:30,373 --> 00:40:34,653
Speaker 2: direct link between messed out people and violent road rage incidents.

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00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:35,692
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 5: This wasn't a road rage incident per se, but I

820
00:40:39,053 --> 00:40:41,252
Speaker 5: saw a messed out guy.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't take a sample of his DNA, but he

823
00:40:45,933 --> 00:40:46,853
Speaker 2: seemed methy to me.

824
00:40:46,933 --> 00:40:48,013
Speaker 3: There's hi telltale signs.

825
00:40:48,093 --> 00:40:49,093
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you.

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Speaker 2: Can sort of tell this sort of zombie like attitude

827
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Speaker 2: towards life, just threatening a bus driver and smashing the

828
00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:59,093
Speaker 2: door of the bars over absolutely nothing and the bus

829
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Speaker 2: drivers not letting him in but can't pull into traffic,

830
00:41:01,613 --> 00:41:04,893
Speaker 2: and this guy was just so incredibly angry. Yep, you

831
00:41:04,933 --> 00:41:06,253
Speaker 2: see quite a bit of that out there, don't you.

832
00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:07,053
Speaker 3: That feels methy.

833
00:41:07,213 --> 00:41:10,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you know, as you say, Tyler, we

834
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:14,173
Speaker 2: regularly see violent rows rage incidents like this one in

835
00:41:14,213 --> 00:41:16,973
Speaker 2: the news. Whether this is because we all have phones

836
00:41:17,933 --> 00:41:19,573
Speaker 2: that we can take pictures of the incidents now, so

837
00:41:19,973 --> 00:41:22,613
Speaker 2: it creates good images that can be spread around social

838
00:41:22,653 --> 00:41:23,333
Speaker 2: media news and.

839
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Speaker 5: Stuff or not.

840
00:41:24,493 --> 00:41:26,533
Speaker 2: But the definitely is the feeling that violent road rages

841
00:41:26,573 --> 00:41:30,933
Speaker 2: incidents are creasing, but they've always been around, So yeah,

842
00:41:31,013 --> 00:41:33,813
Speaker 2: the question is are you modifying your behavior because New

843
00:41:33,893 --> 00:41:38,133
Speaker 2: Zealand has long been a nation of angry drivers, quick

844
00:41:38,173 --> 00:41:42,253
Speaker 2: to honk the angry honk, quick to flip the bird,

845
00:41:42,973 --> 00:41:47,293
Speaker 2: quick to yell angrily out the window at people. But

846
00:41:47,373 --> 00:41:49,293
Speaker 2: you don't know who's in that car that you're yelling at.

847
00:41:49,373 --> 00:41:51,493
Speaker 2: Or honking at Do you know that guy might have

848
00:41:51,533 --> 00:41:54,652
Speaker 2: been up for three days on myth and he might

849
00:41:54,733 --> 00:41:56,573
Speaker 2: just get out and beat the living crap.

850
00:41:56,333 --> 00:41:57,333
Speaker 3: Out of you exactly.

851
00:41:57,573 --> 00:41:58,453
Speaker 5: So is it worth the risk?

852
00:41:58,533 --> 00:42:02,212
Speaker 2: Is it that important to discipline someone on the roads

853
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:05,493
Speaker 2: for their terrible behavior? Is it worth the risk? I mean,

854
00:42:05,493 --> 00:42:07,693
Speaker 2: what do you tell your kids? And I tell my

855
00:42:08,013 --> 00:42:11,493
Speaker 2: son drives, just drive the friendly way.

856
00:42:11,493 --> 00:42:14,533
Speaker 3: Yep, stay off the horn, let things go yep. No birds, Yeah,

857
00:42:14,533 --> 00:42:16,573
Speaker 3: because you just know who you'll.

858
00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:18,013
Speaker 5: Never see that again. Next person again.

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00:42:17,933 --> 00:42:20,373
Speaker 2: Yep, that person has nothing to do with you. You

860
00:42:20,413 --> 00:42:22,493
Speaker 2: know they're a terrible driver. Just let them go.

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00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:25,413
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've

862
00:42:25,413 --> 00:42:28,133
Speaker 3: been in a road rage incident recently, tell us about

863
00:42:28,173 --> 00:42:30,733
Speaker 3: it's our nine two ninety two is that text? But

864
00:42:30,893 --> 00:42:33,853
Speaker 3: have you changed how you drive if you come across

865
00:42:33,853 --> 00:42:37,413
Speaker 3: bad behavior because you're worried about roads rage incidents? Join

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Speaker 3: the conversation. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?

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Speaker 5: Vaughn makes a good point. Cheers, guys.

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00:42:41,933 --> 00:42:44,373
Speaker 2: I guess when the petrol runs out due to the

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00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:47,133
Speaker 2: supply problems, we won't have to worry about road rage anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got on your every cloud, vorn I like your positivity.

871
00:42:50,493 --> 00:42:53,732
Speaker 3: It is eleven past two, back very shortly taking your calls.

872
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,533
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?

873
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Speaker 2: We won't have to worry about eating as well because

874
00:42:57,453 --> 00:43:04,053
Speaker 2: the food chain will will collapse as well, Handy sweet ass.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eight you talk said.

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Speaker 3: Be thirteen pass two. So has the rye is in

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Speaker 3: road rage incidents changed the way you respond when you

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Speaker 3: encounter bad driving? Share your thoughts. So eighte hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? And if

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Speaker 3: you want to text nine to nine to two is

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Speaker 3: that number? A couple of texts coming through this one

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Speaker 3: says Gooday guys. This morning I went to New World

884
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Speaker 3: in or Archi and to my surprise, another road rage incident.

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Speaker 3: I see it on an almost daily basis now and

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Speaker 3: this one here. We have to learn e bike and

887
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Speaker 3: scooter etiquette fast as well as conventional road etiquette. From Dave,

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Speaker 3: apparently a bit of road rage on the e bikes

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Speaker 3: and scooters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a little bit of that for sure.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, you made the comment around road rage and

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Speaker 2: the number of people that are currently on meth as

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Speaker 2: a society. As a society, we need to make it

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Speaker 2: very clear that violence resulting from drug and alcohol use

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Speaker 2: is not tolerated. It should be mandatory that any judge

896
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Speaker 2: facing a case with drugs and alcohol contributing factors to

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Speaker 2: violent crime must double any potential sentence.

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Speaker 5: Make it very clear. Cheers Nick. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In the legal system, do they take into account that

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Speaker 2: you if you're methed up and you commit a crime,

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Speaker 2: do they take that into account positively in your case

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Speaker 2: to say that's why you did it because you're on

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Speaker 2: myth so you're out of your mind?

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Speaker 5: I hope not.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't think so. If anything, it would work

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Speaker 3: against you. There's an aggravating factor, isn't it?

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Speaker 20: Is it?

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Speaker 3: You'd think so?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Surely? If you know I eight one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: teen to eighty.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, why do we need a working horn for

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Speaker 2: a warren of fitness? Maybe cars should not have horns?

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Speaker 5: What is their use? Exactly? Pure Jason.

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Speaker 2: It's I think people don't understand that a horn is

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Speaker 2: not to be used in anger. A horn isn't an

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Speaker 2: few device. That's not what a horn is if someone

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Speaker 2: happens to be roll reversing and you're behind them, that

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Speaker 2: their horn is handy for telling them that they're reversing.

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Speaker 3: If you know, yeah, it's a warning signal to say

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Speaker 3: I'm here. They can still wine people up. And incident

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Speaker 3: about two weeks ago driving up Hobson Street in the

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Speaker 3: middle of Auckland and to the right there's no parking

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Speaker 3: during four to six. You know, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: what they call that thing. So at wounded come screaming

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Speaker 3: up and gets right behind this this ute and I'm

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Speaker 3: driving up to the left of it. So the ute thinks,

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Speaker 3: oh jeep as I don't want a ticket and went

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Speaker 3: to go into my lane. So I got on the

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Speaker 3: horn twice to say I'm here, I'm here, Please don't

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Speaker 3: pull out because you're about to crash into me. And

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Speaker 3: that ute driver took offense to that. It was right

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Speaker 3: up my bum for maybe about ten minutes until we

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Speaker 3: got on the motorway, then eventually went past Flip me

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Speaker 3: the bird. But of course I was thinking when it

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Speaker 3: was right up my jacksy, here we go again. Is

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Speaker 3: this going to escalate or is this going to simmer down?

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Speaker 2: So use the horn in the way. The horn is

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Speaker 2: supposed to be used as a warning that something could happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, And that person did not like it. That

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Speaker 3: youte driver was very, very upset that I gave him

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Speaker 3: the double horn just to say I'm here, Please don't

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Speaker 3: back into me or come out and and crash into me.

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Speaker 2: Never use a horn and anger that. That absolutely and

945
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Speaker 2: you weren't doing it there. But the worst type of

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Speaker 2: people on the roads are someone that say, you pull

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Speaker 2: out and there's enough space, but for some reason they

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Speaker 2: get antsy that they it's somehow, you know, somehow you're

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Speaker 2: almost getting in their way, and then they speed up

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Speaker 2: so they can jump on the horn, so they create

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Speaker 2: the incident such they can get angry and escalate it.

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Speaker 5: Those are the absolute worst people.

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Speaker 3: The entitlement of those people, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it happens all the time. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: a crazy thing to do. But what about the situation

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Speaker 2: you go through a you get unnecessarily honked at and

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Speaker 2: your blood boils it?

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Speaker 5: Does you know?

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Speaker 2: There's something about it being honked out when you've done

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong, Because because you're mute, you're not in a

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Speaker 2: position if someone bangs into you in a corridor and

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Speaker 2: you've done nothing wrong and they get angry at you.

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Speaker 2: You can say, hey, hey, hey, hey, what's.

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Speaker 3: Going on here? You know, just you know, I'm a

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Speaker 3: walking here, I'm walcoed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in the car you're sort of mute because

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Speaker 2: you're sealed in, right. Yeah, So it does make you

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Speaker 2: angry and you feel like you need to communicate with them,

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Speaker 2: And the way that we normally communicate with them is

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Speaker 2: just driving really slowly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is.

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Speaker 2: They're already angry enough to do an angry honk, and

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Speaker 2: then your response is to make this person even angrier

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Speaker 2: by driving at twenty k down the road and stopping

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Speaker 2: them driving and just pretending like you're just having a

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Speaker 2: normal day. Yeah, bah blah blah, But you're driving at

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Speaker 2: twenty k just to get revenge, right, Yeah. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: that person that honked at you potentially on there is

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Speaker 2: just reaching boiling point, and you know, are you is

980
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Speaker 2: it worth it? Is it worth it for the potential

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Speaker 2: violence like we see in the story here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, join the conversation. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty And if you've been in a road rage

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Speaker 3: incident recently, tell us about it. Nine two ninety two

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Speaker 3: is that text number. Plenty of texts coming through, but

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Speaker 3: we'll get to a few of those very shortly. It

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Speaker 3: is eighteen past two.

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Speaker 21: Back in a moment, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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Speaker 21: call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one past two. Have you stopped honking at bad

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Speaker 3: drivers because of the increase of road rage incidents? I

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: This Texer disagrees with what we've been saying and makes

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Speaker 2: quite a good point. Actually, okay, you absolutely have to honk.

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Speaker 2: Bad drivers need to be told they are shit drivers. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: bad drivers need to be told their bad drivers could

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Speaker 2: a sense of that, but it didn't. Otherwise, how do

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Speaker 2: they learn you were saying we should just let them

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Speaker 2: drive around nearly killing people. It is your duty as

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Speaker 2: a citizen to point out bad driving where you see it.

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Speaker 2: A good honking, it's giving them the finger or even

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Speaker 2: sharing your thoughts through a roll down window is a

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Speaker 2: community service.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't go.

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Speaker 2: So far as to get out and smash their side window,

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Speaker 2: but it is a community service to tell them that

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Speaker 2: they are driving poorly. For the safe safety of everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can understand their text. You agree. O

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Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Get a roy yoday?

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Speaker 6: Boys? How you doing today?

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Speaker 3: Very good? So you had an incident quite recently, did you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah I did ye, it was actually only last week.

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Speaker 6: But I've got to say that last comment I totally disagree,

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Speaker 6: because all that's doing is rais and anxiety levels everywhere.

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Speaker 6: I had to change my attitude. But I drive all

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Speaker 6: around New Zealand. In fact, I'm flying the Wellington motor

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Speaker 6: to drive up there, and I consider myself a good driver.

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Speaker 6: I drive in a company vehicle, GPS tracked and all that,

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Speaker 6: so we have to be were measured on anyway. But

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Speaker 6: I was heading home up the Northern Motorway christ Church

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Speaker 6: last week and I happen to notice my rear vision

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Speaker 6: mirror a young lady and a car behind me. She

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Speaker 6: was obviously looking down texting or messaging or something. But anyhow,

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Speaker 6: I was progressing on and then traffic suddenly slowed down

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Speaker 6: rather quickly in front of me. And I've got Rodeo

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Speaker 6: cruise Control, so it applies the brakes on its own,

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Speaker 6: and it applied a little bit hard of them than

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Speaker 6: I expected. And then next thing I know, she'd gone

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Speaker 6: up the back of my car. So we actually pulled

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Speaker 6: over to the side of the road. And at first

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to give her a good telling off,

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Speaker 6: and I kind of got out of the car and

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Speaker 6: I was kind of going to and then I was

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Speaker 6: I could see she was upset, and she was still

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Speaker 6: sitting in a car, obviously a little bit scared, and

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Speaker 6: I just said to her, put my hands up a

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Speaker 6: little bit and said, are you okay. That's the first

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Speaker 6: thing I asked her, and she had a bit of

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Speaker 6: a cry and we had a bit of a chat

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Speaker 6: about it, and after she had calmed down, but I

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Speaker 6: said to her, look, I did see that you were

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Speaker 6: either messaging or texting on your phone. Oh no, I wasn't.

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Speaker 6: And I kind of pointed to the back of my

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Speaker 6: car and I pointed at the camera that's connected to

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Speaker 6: my desh camp. So I've got to rea facing facing

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Speaker 6: one as well, and she said, yeah, I was. And

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Speaker 6: I said, we'll probably a little bit of a lesson

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Speaker 6: to learn here, as you really got to focus on

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Speaker 6: your driving and rather than your phone, put your phone

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Speaker 6: on the floor or in your bag or whatever. Let's

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Speaker 6: just live it there. Nothing is that important.

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Speaker 5: You're a man of peace, aren't you.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, she learned her value, She learned her valuable lesson,

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Speaker 2: even though she tried to deny it, but she learned

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Speaker 2: her valuable Lissen pri massively inconvenient to you by ramming

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Speaker 2: you up the backside.

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Speaker 6: Fortunately there was a damage to.

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Speaker 3: It was to It's a bit of justice.

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Speaker 6: I was very lucky. But no, I just think you're

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Speaker 6: getting angry at people. It's not going to achieve anything,

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Speaker 6: and unfortunate. We've got less voting police out there nowadays,

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Speaker 6: but there's more cars on the road, and it's not

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Speaker 6: a job to police people. But if we can, if

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Speaker 6: we can teach people along the way, that's that's a

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Speaker 6: bitter way of dealing with things.

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Speaker 2: Well what if it's not getting angry but it is.

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Speaker 2: So you're doing it because you see it as your

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Speaker 2: service and you know as your duty in a sort

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Speaker 2: of calm manner. Just pointing out to someone, not abusing them,

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Speaker 2: but pointing out to them that they are driving poorly.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how you do that, how you.

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Speaker 6: No one's going to learn with your being aggressive at them.

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Speaker 6: If I if I happened to be up beside someone

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Speaker 6: that had pulled out in front of me earlier on

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Speaker 6: and was stuck in traffic, I'll wind the window down.

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Speaker 6: I'll sort of do the old spinny hand signal wanted

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Speaker 6: a buddy. That wasn't a good move back, there was it?

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Speaker 6: You know your tone of voice as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still think if you get the wrong

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Speaker 2: person on the wrong day and you get them to

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Speaker 2: roll down the window and they've been up for three

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Speaker 2: days on some infhetamine fueled.

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Speaker 5: Then it could be a different thing. Yeah. What about

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Speaker 5: what about Roy?

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Speaker 2: If you were if you were driving along and you'd,

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Speaker 2: for some reason you'd seen that this this woman was

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Speaker 2: on her phone before it happened, Like she's driving along

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Speaker 2: and she's on her phone. Well, would you know, let's

1091
00:52:58,293 --> 00:53:00,533
Speaker 2: say it's a double a two lane situation and you're

1092
00:53:00,533 --> 00:53:02,133
Speaker 2: coming up to the to the right of her, would

1093
00:53:02,133 --> 00:53:04,133
Speaker 2: you would give a little honk and go signal, get

1094
00:53:04,173 --> 00:53:04,773
Speaker 2: off your phone.

1095
00:53:06,093 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 6: I think I'd put my hands up to the side

1096
00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:12,413
Speaker 6: of my face to represent the phone and look at

1097
00:53:12,453 --> 00:53:14,533
Speaker 6: it and then just shake my head and then just

1098
00:53:14,573 --> 00:53:14,973
Speaker 6: carry on.

1099
00:53:16,493 --> 00:53:19,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, the massel myself of drivers, I wouldn't I wouldn't

1100
00:53:19,333 --> 00:53:21,053
Speaker 2: have thought about that, but you can definitely, you can

1101
00:53:21,053 --> 00:53:21,652
Speaker 2: definitely mind.

1102
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:22,773
Speaker 3: It's a calm approach.

1103
00:53:22,933 --> 00:53:26,333
Speaker 2: You can definitely mind the phone, holding the phone and

1104
00:53:26,373 --> 00:53:28,373
Speaker 2: shake your head in disappointment.

1105
00:53:29,373 --> 00:53:30,853
Speaker 17: Got on you.

1106
00:53:30,973 --> 00:53:36,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, Roy drives the friendly way, and I respect.

1107
00:53:35,653 --> 00:53:37,413
Speaker 3: That it can go the other way, though, can't it?

1108
00:53:37,453 --> 00:53:39,732
Speaker 3: I mean, you know again, an incident I saw about

1109
00:53:39,773 --> 00:53:42,333
Speaker 3: a month ago, and I was editing intersection and heard

1110
00:53:42,333 --> 00:53:44,973
Speaker 3: all this beeping and looked around and there's a taxi

1111
00:53:45,133 --> 00:53:47,333
Speaker 3: and there's a whole bunch of people behind them. Obviously

1112
00:53:47,333 --> 00:53:49,333
Speaker 3: the light was green and the TEXTI was going nowhere,

1113
00:53:49,533 --> 00:53:51,613
Speaker 3: and initially I thought, oh, the Texti's broken down, so

1114
00:53:51,693 --> 00:53:53,733
Speaker 3: just give him a break. And everybody was honking and

1115
00:53:53,773 --> 00:53:56,653
Speaker 3: it was a racket of a noise. Then they managed

1116
00:53:56,693 --> 00:53:58,573
Speaker 3: to get round him, and I thought, someone's going to

1117
00:53:58,613 --> 00:54:00,693
Speaker 3: go help that TEXTI and he started again, so he

1118
00:54:00,733 --> 00:54:04,293
Speaker 3: started driving. So my assumption was someone honked at him.

1119
00:54:04,573 --> 00:54:06,413
Speaker 3: He said, bugging you for honking at me. I'm just

1120
00:54:06,413 --> 00:54:08,773
Speaker 3: going to stop. I'm just going to stay here. Honked

1121
00:54:08,773 --> 00:54:11,293
Speaker 3: at me, and I want to respond by just staying

1122
00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:14,573
Speaker 3: where I am. How dare you sit in? Yes? Sit in?

1123
00:54:14,973 --> 00:54:17,333
Speaker 3: And everyone needs to drive around them. But that's the problem,

1124
00:54:17,413 --> 00:54:19,093
Speaker 3: right that a lot of key we feel that way

1125
00:54:19,253 --> 00:54:20,733
Speaker 3: that as soon as you honk in them, even a

1126
00:54:20,773 --> 00:54:23,253
Speaker 3: friendly Hey it's a green can you please go, there's

1127
00:54:23,813 --> 00:54:26,413
Speaker 3: a big percentage will say, excuse me, what did you

1128
00:54:26,453 --> 00:54:28,533
Speaker 3: just honked me? I ain't going anywhere, screw you.

1129
00:54:28,693 --> 00:54:30,893
Speaker 2: The problem with New Zealander is and look, I love

1130
00:54:30,933 --> 00:54:34,652
Speaker 2: this country and I love us as a people, but

1131
00:54:34,773 --> 00:54:37,693
Speaker 2: we are quite meek to each other's faces. But we

1132
00:54:37,733 --> 00:54:42,013
Speaker 2: are so angry on the roads. We're so different in

1133
00:54:42,053 --> 00:54:44,812
Speaker 2: our cars than we are just walking around. You can

1134
00:54:44,893 --> 00:54:48,533
Speaker 2: barely brush the side of someone's shoulder, like barely, the

1135
00:54:49,293 --> 00:54:51,373
Speaker 2: side of the shirt just wiggles just a little bit

1136
00:54:51,373 --> 00:54:54,253
Speaker 2: because you got too close, and it's like sorry, sorry, yep, sorry,

1137
00:54:54,453 --> 00:55:00,613
Speaker 2: meek sorry, So so fine with that and so concerned

1138
00:55:00,853 --> 00:55:02,933
Speaker 2: when it's when it's cross walking.

1139
00:55:02,733 --> 00:55:03,733
Speaker 5: Past someone in the corral.

1140
00:55:04,293 --> 00:55:07,293
Speaker 2: But on the road, oh my god, someone inconvenience you

1141
00:55:07,373 --> 00:55:09,493
Speaker 2: even a millimeter and it's all.

1142
00:55:09,253 --> 00:55:12,053
Speaker 3: On yeah, oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've

1143
00:55:12,053 --> 00:55:14,573
Speaker 3: been in a road rage incident recently or got yourself

1144
00:55:14,613 --> 00:55:16,493
Speaker 3: into a bit more trouble because you're honked at a

1145
00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:19,453
Speaker 3: bad driver, share your view oh wait one hundred eighty

1146
00:55:19,453 --> 00:55:21,573
Speaker 3: ten eighty set number call nineteen nine two's the text

1147
00:55:21,573 --> 00:55:22,413
Speaker 3: twenty eight past two.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylena. It is twenty eight to three.

1169
00:56:45,573 --> 00:56:48,733
Speaker 3: So have you eased off on the honking and light

1170
00:56:49,053 --> 00:56:52,293
Speaker 3: of the many, many road rage incidents that we've seen

1171
00:56:52,333 --> 00:56:54,053
Speaker 3: come to light our one hundred and eighty ten eighties

1172
00:56:54,053 --> 00:56:54,413
Speaker 3: a number.

1173
00:56:54,413 --> 00:56:56,293
Speaker 5: This is good from John, guys, why don't you ask

1174
00:56:56,373 --> 00:56:59,533
Speaker 5: Sujio Prairez to talk about Kiwi drivers and road race?

1175
00:56:59,773 --> 00:57:01,293
Speaker 3: Not bear from you John yet, very good?

1176
00:57:01,813 --> 00:57:05,653
Speaker 5: Icah, he madded, diggy yourself, go Liam. Liam was totally

1177
00:57:05,653 --> 00:57:08,333
Speaker 5: in the right there, Nick your experts.

1178
00:57:08,613 --> 00:57:11,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, how are you going, guys?

1179
00:57:11,213 --> 00:57:13,213
Speaker 3: Very good? So road rage and.

1180
00:57:15,893 --> 00:57:22,293
Speaker 22: I haven't really encountered much road rage here in z

1181
00:57:23,453 --> 00:57:27,053
Speaker 22: and well the natural fact I haven't encountered road rage

1182
00:57:28,533 --> 00:57:32,453
Speaker 22: many places. But what I was actually ringing about is

1183
00:57:33,253 --> 00:57:35,893
Speaker 22: the driving. Now, I've driven an excess of fifty to

1184
00:57:35,893 --> 00:57:38,893
Speaker 22: fifty five countries around the world, and I've under two

1185
00:57:38,973 --> 00:57:40,813
Speaker 22: hundred clicks on the auto barns and all that sort

1186
00:57:40,813 --> 00:57:43,613
Speaker 22: of stuff, and actually it's every key. We should go

1187
00:57:43,733 --> 00:57:46,853
Speaker 22: there and drive. It's a real education. But I'm not

1188
00:57:46,973 --> 00:57:50,693
Speaker 22: ringing because of that. A few years ago I was

1189
00:57:51,053 --> 00:57:55,013
Speaker 22: driving in Cairo. Now that's a country of a city

1190
00:57:55,053 --> 00:57:59,293
Speaker 22: of a twenty seven milk, and yeah, it took quite

1191
00:57:59,333 --> 00:58:02,213
Speaker 22: a lot to get used to the tooting over there.

1192
00:58:02,453 --> 00:58:04,733
Speaker 22: You know, we get used to the tooting over here

1193
00:58:04,733 --> 00:58:08,893
Speaker 22: and the middle finger over there. It's you had to

1194
00:58:09,253 --> 00:58:11,213
Speaker 22: and that's the fact I had to end up doing

1195
00:58:11,213 --> 00:58:16,693
Speaker 22: it because it's almost although there's no road rules. Amazing

1196
00:58:16,733 --> 00:58:18,453
Speaker 22: how it's got the rental card back with not a.

1197
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:19,173
Speaker 17: Scratch on it.

1198
00:58:20,493 --> 00:58:23,733
Speaker 22: You're here, this tooth coming up beside you. You hear

1199
00:58:23,813 --> 00:58:26,173
Speaker 22: this tooth and you just look, and it's almost all

1200
00:58:26,213 --> 00:58:29,333
Speaker 22: it does is here I am, Here, I am. And

1201
00:58:29,413 --> 00:58:32,853
Speaker 22: that's what that's what it's all about over there. It's

1202
00:58:32,853 --> 00:58:36,133
Speaker 22: the same in Hanoi, the same over there with thousands

1203
00:58:36,133 --> 00:58:39,053
Speaker 22: and tens of thousands of goods. They'll you'll be driving

1204
00:58:39,093 --> 00:58:41,933
Speaker 22: along and there'll be a here I am, here I am,

1205
00:58:42,293 --> 00:58:44,693
Speaker 22: and it's very very good. I had to end up

1206
00:58:44,813 --> 00:58:47,253
Speaker 22: doing that myself, because you know, you just had to

1207
00:58:47,253 --> 00:58:49,173
Speaker 22: tell because they passed on the left and on the

1208
00:58:49,253 --> 00:58:51,973
Speaker 22: right and almost over on top and underneath they drive,

1209
00:58:52,053 --> 00:58:57,853
Speaker 22: they're partially everywhere, and it's quite an education. And even

1210
00:58:58,333 --> 00:59:01,573
Speaker 22: even over there, like if you're waiting at an intersection,

1211
00:59:02,093 --> 00:59:04,853
Speaker 22: say to get without traffic lights, to get out onto

1212
00:59:04,853 --> 00:59:08,653
Speaker 22: the road. You know, if there's if you just had

1213
00:59:08,693 --> 00:59:11,973
Speaker 22: to pull out, the cars will slow down, Nobody to attach,

1214
00:59:12,173 --> 00:59:14,453
Speaker 22: nobody gives you the middle thing. No, just back off

1215
00:59:14,453 --> 00:59:17,213
Speaker 22: and n and you can't do that here I'm talking about.

1216
00:59:17,533 --> 00:59:19,533
Speaker 22: You know, the car's only got twenty meters away from

1217
00:59:19,533 --> 00:59:22,813
Speaker 22: your intersect. You just pull out, otherwise you'll say that

1218
00:59:22,853 --> 00:59:24,933
Speaker 22: you'll you'll, you'll be there still at dinner time trying

1219
00:59:24,933 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 22: to get So it's a real education.

1220
00:59:28,733 --> 00:59:31,933
Speaker 5: Do you have and say once when someone lets you in?

1221
00:59:31,973 --> 00:59:34,533
Speaker 5: I mean that's so heck. Do you wave and say

1222
00:59:34,573 --> 00:59:37,093
Speaker 5: thank you for for someone that leads.

1223
00:59:36,893 --> 00:59:39,653
Speaker 22: You in, just give a get a quick way.

1224
00:59:39,733 --> 00:59:41,853
Speaker 2: So see, see what you're saying is over there, horn

1225
00:59:42,053 --> 00:59:44,333
Speaker 2: is being used as it's meant to be used, not

1226
00:59:44,533 --> 00:59:48,933
Speaker 2: as a if you're not, as an insult, but as

1227
00:59:48,973 --> 00:59:51,773
Speaker 2: just information. I'm here, I'm coming in. You better know

1228
00:59:51,853 --> 00:59:54,293
Speaker 2: that I'm at your your your back left quarter.

1229
00:59:54,853 --> 00:59:56,333
Speaker 5: So here I am bibit.

1230
00:59:57,813 --> 01:00:00,093
Speaker 3: It's a it's a good way to operate neck. Yeah,

1231
01:00:00,133 --> 01:00:02,333
Speaker 3: but how do we how do we incorporate that into

1232
01:00:02,373 --> 01:00:03,813
Speaker 3: New Zealand. I mean we need a.

1233
01:00:04,853 --> 01:00:07,133
Speaker 2: If someone just haunt their horn in New Zealand to

1234
01:00:07,213 --> 01:00:09,653
Speaker 2: say that you were there, that person would get a

1235
01:00:09,693 --> 01:00:10,973
Speaker 2: tire iron round the back of the head.

1236
01:00:13,093 --> 01:00:15,493
Speaker 5: You have you have you driven in Tokyo.

1237
01:00:15,213 --> 01:00:20,053
Speaker 22: Nick, No, I've never been to Japan.

1238
01:00:19,893 --> 01:00:22,333
Speaker 2: Right, because in Tokyo is like city of forty million,

1239
01:00:22,773 --> 01:00:24,773
Speaker 2: you will not hear a horn. They have they have

1240
01:00:24,893 --> 01:00:26,973
Speaker 2: gone completely the other way and there is there was

1241
01:00:27,693 --> 01:00:30,933
Speaker 2: no honking at all allowed. In fact, any kind of

1242
01:00:31,133 --> 01:00:34,773
Speaker 2: honky of you horn is considered. I'm surprised Japanese cars

1243
01:00:34,773 --> 01:00:37,573
Speaker 2: have horns because you know, when you're in Tokyo, you

1244
01:00:37,613 --> 01:00:39,413
Speaker 2: look around and go, what's missing. I can't hear a

1245
01:00:39,413 --> 01:00:42,493
Speaker 2: single horn. And me and a group of friends we

1246
01:00:42,573 --> 01:00:45,973
Speaker 2: hired some Mario karts to drive around Tokyo. You dress

1247
01:00:46,053 --> 01:00:52,013
Speaker 2: up as Luigi ins and you drive around in these

1248
01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:54,573
Speaker 2: little go karts. And one the one thing that the

1249
01:00:54,573 --> 01:00:56,413
Speaker 2: guy that was a tour guy that was in front.

1250
01:00:56,413 --> 01:00:58,133
Speaker 2: Because you're in these little cars on the streets of

1251
01:00:58,133 --> 01:01:00,493
Speaker 2: Tokyo's it's quite terrifying. You's going real fast. He said,

1252
01:01:00,533 --> 01:01:01,973
Speaker 2: don't use the horn. What if you do, do not

1253
01:01:02,133 --> 01:01:05,013
Speaker 2: use the horn? And we drove past the school bus

1254
01:01:05,013 --> 01:01:08,253
Speaker 2: of kids and they're all waving at us because we're

1255
01:01:08,253 --> 01:01:11,093
Speaker 2: all drift like Mario characters. And one of my mates

1256
01:01:11,133 --> 01:01:12,733
Speaker 2: honked the horn and he pulled us all over, and

1257
01:01:12,773 --> 01:01:15,453
Speaker 2: he goes, don't honk the horn because as far as

1258
01:01:15,453 --> 01:01:17,893
Speaker 2: he was concerned, honking the horn was worse than flashing your.

1259
01:01:17,773 --> 01:01:18,613
Speaker 5: Buttocks at people.

1260
01:01:18,693 --> 01:01:21,613
Speaker 3: Right, So it was an in Japan.

1261
01:01:22,093 --> 01:01:24,413
Speaker 2: There might be someone that spent more time in Japan

1262
01:01:23,893 --> 01:01:27,693
Speaker 2: than than me that can verify this, but it's an

1263
01:01:27,733 --> 01:01:30,373
Speaker 2: interesting different countries, Nick, Different countries, different rules.

1264
01:01:31,653 --> 01:01:32,373
Speaker 22: Yep, that's right.

1265
01:01:32,533 --> 01:01:32,813
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1266
01:01:32,893 --> 01:01:36,693
Speaker 2: Hey, how about driving in Cairo when one direction you

1267
01:01:36,773 --> 01:01:38,613
Speaker 2: got the pyramid and the other direction you're in a

1268
01:01:38,653 --> 01:01:39,533
Speaker 2: massive traffic cham.

1269
01:01:39,573 --> 01:01:40,053
Speaker 5: How good is that?

1270
01:01:42,973 --> 01:01:43,573
Speaker 22: You're talking to me?

1271
01:01:43,893 --> 01:01:44,093
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1272
01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:45,493
Speaker 5: I was, but you weren't listening, so we'll see you

1273
01:01:45,533 --> 01:01:45,853
Speaker 5: later in it.

1274
01:01:45,933 --> 01:01:46,093
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1275
01:01:46,093 --> 01:01:47,253
Speaker 5: I was just making an observation.

1276
01:01:47,413 --> 01:01:49,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, thank you very much for your call. Nick.

1277
01:01:50,093 --> 01:01:55,053
Speaker 3: We go to another Nick, get a mate.

1278
01:01:54,053 --> 01:01:59,493
Speaker 23: Nick too, here your second territory, Nick. Yeah, no, I've

1279
01:01:59,533 --> 01:02:01,813
Speaker 23: got to I've got a road rage story. But unfortunately

1280
01:02:01,853 --> 01:02:03,093
Speaker 23: I was a bloody road rage.

1281
01:02:03,893 --> 01:02:04,213
Speaker 5: It's good.

1282
01:02:06,133 --> 01:02:08,213
Speaker 23: No, I'm a I'm in a big white van just

1283
01:02:08,413 --> 01:02:11,813
Speaker 23: for contact, so I'm very visible. And I was about

1284
01:02:11,813 --> 01:02:14,413
Speaker 23: to go through an intersection and a lovely couple of

1285
01:02:15,053 --> 01:02:19,173
Speaker 23: Indian ladies come across to do a right turn, straight

1286
01:02:19,213 --> 01:02:21,573
Speaker 23: across the straight, across the intersection, clean across it on

1287
01:02:21,613 --> 01:02:23,693
Speaker 23: a red light. I'm looking at green I see this

1288
01:02:23,813 --> 01:02:26,093
Speaker 23: car coming over. I thought, Okay, they've screwed up. They're

1289
01:02:26,093 --> 01:02:27,693
Speaker 23: going to stop where they are. There's no way they're

1290
01:02:27,693 --> 01:02:29,453
Speaker 23: going to cross the park. I've already got ahead of

1291
01:02:29,453 --> 01:02:31,693
Speaker 23: steam up. There's no way that across me. Anyway they do,

1292
01:02:32,173 --> 01:02:35,173
Speaker 23: I jam on the pins. Everything hits the dash. My

1293
01:02:35,213 --> 01:02:37,973
Speaker 23: little dog hits the dash. My damn near hit the dash.

1294
01:02:38,093 --> 01:02:40,813
Speaker 23: I'm staring at the top of their car. This noise

1295
01:02:40,853 --> 01:02:42,853
Speaker 23: that's just been made in the cap. I think they've

1296
01:02:42,893 --> 01:02:45,453
Speaker 23: crunched together. And so I'm just like, oh shit, here

1297
01:02:45,493 --> 01:02:48,133
Speaker 23: we go. And then they take off and I thought, oh,

1298
01:02:48,173 --> 01:02:49,933
Speaker 23: they're trying to get away, but this is this isn't good.

1299
01:02:50,293 --> 01:02:52,133
Speaker 23: And the dog hit the dash as well. So I

1300
01:02:52,173 --> 01:02:54,053
Speaker 23: was in a bit of a I was in a

1301
01:02:54,053 --> 01:02:55,733
Speaker 23: bit of a steam. I wasn't particularly very happy, so

1302
01:02:55,813 --> 01:02:59,133
Speaker 23: I chased them down, got them to pull over. I

1303
01:02:59,133 --> 01:03:01,853
Speaker 23: got out of the van. I saw it wasn't damaged.

1304
01:03:02,413 --> 01:03:04,533
Speaker 23: I saw some manage to choke it off a little bit,

1305
01:03:04,853 --> 01:03:06,973
Speaker 23: and I went over to them, and they popped out there.

1306
01:03:07,013 --> 01:03:09,933
Speaker 23: They're obviously a little bit quite flush. But I had

1307
01:03:09,933 --> 01:03:12,053
Speaker 23: some terse words, didn't. I didn't yell or scream or

1308
01:03:12,053 --> 01:03:13,893
Speaker 23: anything like that, but I didn't have any friendly words

1309
01:03:13,893 --> 01:03:16,853
Speaker 23: to say. But no, I left them. I went on

1310
01:03:16,893 --> 01:03:18,493
Speaker 23: their way. They've got a bit of a shock. But

1311
01:03:18,813 --> 01:03:20,893
Speaker 23: you know, thinking back, I really regret it. I wish

1312
01:03:20,893 --> 01:03:23,853
Speaker 23: you could find those ladies again and apologize to them.

1313
01:03:23,013 --> 01:03:25,773
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's funny when inger takes over and you

1314
01:03:25,853 --> 01:03:28,493
Speaker 2: end up sort of afterwards, you get lifts and then

1315
01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:31,253
Speaker 2: you go, wait to me, I sort of possist.

1316
01:03:31,533 --> 01:03:33,813
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, you do? You do you lose your higher

1317
01:03:33,813 --> 01:03:34,413
Speaker 23: brain function?

1318
01:03:35,573 --> 01:03:36,773
Speaker 3: Doesn't that? That's fast?

1319
01:03:37,013 --> 01:03:37,573
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1320
01:03:38,573 --> 01:03:42,933
Speaker 23: The dog hit the dash. Oh you my heartstrings.

1321
01:03:42,453 --> 01:03:44,133
Speaker 3: That's what happed me next. As soon as you see

1322
01:03:44,173 --> 01:03:46,093
Speaker 3: the dog, I'm like, I can understand where you're coming

1323
01:03:46,093 --> 01:03:46,573
Speaker 3: from it.

1324
01:03:46,773 --> 01:03:48,573
Speaker 23: You know, I can hear your listeners at home going,

1325
01:03:48,573 --> 01:03:50,413
Speaker 23: Oh this this guy's he's not got his dogs are

1326
01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:50,973
Speaker 23: cured in the car.

1327
01:03:51,253 --> 01:03:54,293
Speaker 3: Come on, only here's a dog's seatbelt for goodness sake.

1328
01:03:54,853 --> 01:03:55,733
Speaker 23: Oh yeah, exactly.

1329
01:03:56,253 --> 01:03:57,493
Speaker 17: No, No, So I mean my.

1330
01:03:57,573 --> 01:04:02,453
Speaker 2: Pa, my pard, my partner Tracy forced us to get

1331
01:04:02,453 --> 01:04:04,693
Speaker 2: a dog seat belt for Colin when we were driving

1332
01:04:04,733 --> 01:04:07,533
Speaker 2: up from Topaul recently, and so I couldn't believe it.

1333
01:04:07,533 --> 01:04:09,613
Speaker 5: I was like, come on, this is crazy. But then

1334
01:04:09,813 --> 01:04:11,253
Speaker 5: he just was really quiet in the back and when

1335
01:04:11,253 --> 01:04:13,533
Speaker 5: we got there, head nibbled right through it. He was

1336
01:04:13,613 --> 01:04:14,133
Speaker 5: quite happy.

1337
01:04:14,333 --> 01:04:14,493
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1338
01:04:14,573 --> 01:04:17,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, but so your dog was all right, thought, no,

1339
01:04:17,253 --> 01:04:17,853
Speaker 5: she's a beauty.

1340
01:04:17,893 --> 01:04:19,413
Speaker 23: She's just a week whipp it. So she's got thin,

1341
01:04:19,453 --> 01:04:22,173
Speaker 23: little little legs. So no, she came up fine and

1342
01:04:22,333 --> 01:04:23,653
Speaker 23: everything came out fine.

1343
01:04:23,733 --> 01:04:23,973
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1344
01:04:24,053 --> 01:04:25,893
Speaker 23: I thought we'd I thought we'd crunched together and I

1345
01:04:25,893 --> 01:04:27,853
Speaker 23: thought they were trying to leg it. So yeah, so

1346
01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:29,853
Speaker 23: that really that really set the motor off, you know.

1347
01:04:30,053 --> 01:04:32,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that post anger feeling when you when you

1348
01:04:33,053 --> 01:04:35,013
Speaker 2: calm down and you go, wow, that wasn't me.

1349
01:04:35,333 --> 01:04:35,653
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1350
01:04:35,733 --> 01:04:37,813
Speaker 23: Yeah, And that was a couple of good looking ladies too.

1351
01:04:37,973 --> 01:04:39,893
Speaker 23: I really regret it. I wish I could meet them

1352
01:04:39,933 --> 01:04:42,333
Speaker 23: again les off chance the listening. I'm so sorry.

1353
01:04:42,413 --> 01:04:43,293
Speaker 4: Ladies, you didn't need that.

1354
01:04:43,533 --> 01:04:44,773
Speaker 5: If you wish you had just gone up and given

1355
01:04:44,773 --> 01:04:45,853
Speaker 5: them your number and walked off.

1356
01:04:45,933 --> 01:04:48,693
Speaker 23: Yeah, something like that, something like that.

1357
01:04:48,813 --> 01:04:51,493
Speaker 3: Love over anger. Thank you very much for giving us

1358
01:04:51,493 --> 01:04:53,013
Speaker 3: a buzz of texs coming through.

1359
01:04:53,133 --> 01:04:55,533
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, there's a gang member. I'm always ready. I

1360
01:04:55,613 --> 01:04:58,053
Speaker 2: carry a well used knife and a nine millimeter gun

1361
01:04:58,093 --> 01:05:01,173
Speaker 2: ready for any road ranger, thinks, said the pirate. Okay,

1362
01:05:01,333 --> 01:05:03,413
Speaker 2: gang member and a pirate you watch out for, said,

1363
01:05:04,093 --> 01:05:05,293
Speaker 2: there's pirates on their roads.

1364
01:05:05,333 --> 01:05:05,613
Speaker 5: Guys.

1365
01:05:06,093 --> 01:05:09,053
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the able to call.

1366
01:05:09,173 --> 01:05:11,893
Speaker 2: You smart city slickers that I keep hearing on your

1367
01:05:11,973 --> 01:05:14,373
Speaker 2: radio show. You better not come to the country. We've

1368
01:05:14,373 --> 01:05:16,333
Speaker 2: got guns and plenty of land to hide your car

1369
01:05:16,453 --> 01:05:18,933
Speaker 2: and your body. Okay, I mean really, you're gonna pother

1370
01:05:20,133 --> 01:05:21,333
Speaker 2: digging a hole for the car.

1371
01:05:21,573 --> 01:05:23,653
Speaker 3: It's fighting wards. I love the country people.

1372
01:05:23,653 --> 01:05:24,533
Speaker 5: That's a lot of energy.

1373
01:05:25,053 --> 01:05:27,533
Speaker 3: Right, beg very shortly, but we are taking your stories.

1374
01:05:27,573 --> 01:05:29,773
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've recently

1375
01:05:29,813 --> 01:05:32,373
Speaker 3: been in a road rage incident, tell us about it.

1376
01:05:32,373 --> 01:05:35,613
Speaker 3: It is nineteen to three, the issues.

1377
01:05:35,253 --> 01:05:37,733
Speaker 1: That affect you and a bit of fun along the way,

1378
01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:40,533
Speaker 1: Matten afternoons with Skoda.

1379
01:05:40,693 --> 01:05:43,453
Speaker 12: Please go to codes every day at skoter dot co.

1380
01:05:43,573 --> 01:05:45,133
Speaker 12: Dot NZ News talks.

1381
01:05:45,133 --> 01:05:48,653
Speaker 3: They'd be sixteen to three and we are discussing road

1382
01:05:48,733 --> 01:05:51,973
Speaker 3: rage incidents. Have you learned to not use your horn

1383
01:05:51,973 --> 01:05:54,733
Speaker 3: and anger because of the rising road rage incidents?

1384
01:05:54,853 --> 01:05:58,613
Speaker 2: Guys, it's illegal to honk your horn in Shanghai, according

1385
01:05:58,613 --> 01:05:59,013
Speaker 2: to that text.

1386
01:05:59,053 --> 01:05:59,453
Speaker 5: I looked it up.

1387
01:05:59,493 --> 01:06:04,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a two hundred yen fine for honking your

1388
01:06:04,253 --> 01:06:06,413
Speaker 2: horn unnecessarily. I don't know how they work out what

1389
01:06:07,333 --> 01:06:11,653
Speaker 2: unnecessarily is. Yeah, so there's no honking zones near airports

1390
01:06:11,653 --> 01:06:13,773
Speaker 2: and major intersections because it was getting so loud. I'm

1391
01:06:13,773 --> 01:06:14,893
Speaker 2: in huge population there.

1392
01:06:15,533 --> 01:06:18,693
Speaker 3: And I looked up the Japanese and their lack of

1393
01:06:18,733 --> 01:06:21,253
Speaker 3: horn use and bang on. It's that cultural thing. Japanese

1394
01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:25,053
Speaker 3: driver's value harmony and patience, often waiting for traffic to

1395
01:06:25,093 --> 01:06:27,973
Speaker 3: move rather than forcing it. But it's also incredibly rude,

1396
01:06:28,293 --> 01:06:30,413
Speaker 3: very very rude in Japan to use your horn, So

1397
01:06:30,493 --> 01:06:33,013
Speaker 3: you are shamed out of the community. If you ever

1398
01:06:33,133 --> 01:06:34,653
Speaker 3: dare use your horn and anger.

1399
01:06:34,733 --> 01:06:36,973
Speaker 2: You should have seen my mate dressed as Mario using

1400
01:06:36,973 --> 01:06:40,093
Speaker 2: the horn the tour guy dangerous.

1401
01:06:40,293 --> 01:06:41,973
Speaker 5: He was mortified. What bit he was?

1402
01:06:42,933 --> 01:06:44,533
Speaker 3: Lisa? How are you this afternoon?

1403
01:06:45,453 --> 01:06:48,653
Speaker 24: Good afternoon, How are you doing? I had to ring

1404
01:06:48,733 --> 01:06:52,413
Speaker 24: through on this one. I just had to ring through

1405
01:06:52,453 --> 01:06:56,413
Speaker 24: because I probably need about ten years of therapy to

1406
01:06:56,413 --> 01:06:59,413
Speaker 24: get over my road rage issues. And I know I'm

1407
01:06:59,413 --> 01:07:02,133
Speaker 24: more Hiki Island and that's why I live on the island,

1408
01:07:02,573 --> 01:07:04,573
Speaker 24: because the only thing we have to worry about is

1409
01:07:04,653 --> 01:07:08,933
Speaker 24: running over ducks. But the other day, the other day,

1410
01:07:09,293 --> 01:07:11,413
Speaker 24: someone tried to run me off the road in my

1411
01:07:11,453 --> 01:07:15,453
Speaker 24: little electric leaf and put me into the side of

1412
01:07:15,453 --> 01:07:20,093
Speaker 24: the ditch, and I got so mad, like, oh my god,

1413
01:07:20,253 --> 01:07:23,133
Speaker 24: I just I got taken over by a demon. I

1414
01:07:23,293 --> 01:07:25,613
Speaker 24: kep up and turned my car around my speed of

1415
01:07:25,733 --> 01:07:28,973
Speaker 24: hot sped down the road behind him, flashing my lights,

1416
01:07:29,173 --> 01:07:31,613
Speaker 24: waving my hands in him, and he didn't stop. So

1417
01:07:31,693 --> 01:07:33,853
Speaker 24: I carried on following him for ten minutes up the

1418
01:07:33,933 --> 01:07:36,973
Speaker 24: hills around the fence, and he finally pulled over, and

1419
01:07:37,133 --> 01:07:40,373
Speaker 24: I let out a tyrant of abuse that right, and

1420
01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:43,213
Speaker 24: I just couldn't help her, and then he got all sorrow.

1421
01:07:43,693 --> 01:07:47,733
Speaker 24: And now that I left, and this happened again when

1422
01:07:47,853 --> 01:07:51,213
Speaker 24: a motorbike undertook me and a bath and some other

1423
01:07:51,293 --> 01:07:54,533
Speaker 24: people on the corner, and I followed him what's his

1424
01:07:54,653 --> 01:07:58,133
Speaker 24: passenger on the back, and decided that I'll take over

1425
01:07:58,253 --> 01:08:03,813
Speaker 24: my job as the Wahiki Traffic Police, and I just

1426
01:08:03,933 --> 01:08:05,373
Speaker 24: did the same with him. I said, you're going to

1427
01:08:05,413 --> 01:08:09,893
Speaker 24: kill somebody. So anyway, I guess my normal day, I'm

1428
01:08:09,893 --> 01:08:12,613
Speaker 24: fod calm normally, and then I get in the car,

1429
01:08:12,773 --> 01:08:16,093
Speaker 24: someone takes my life at hands on my kids or

1430
01:08:16,372 --> 01:08:18,492
Speaker 24: whoever's in the car with me, and I tended to

1431
01:08:18,572 --> 01:08:21,372
Speaker 24: a bit of a monster, and I feel like I

1432
01:08:21,412 --> 01:08:24,372
Speaker 24: also it's my duty to protect other people on the

1433
01:08:24,492 --> 01:08:26,852
Speaker 24: road as well, so I sort of taken upon my

1434
01:08:26,973 --> 01:08:29,492
Speaker 24: heads to sort of, you know, make it very clear

1435
01:08:29,492 --> 01:08:33,133
Speaker 24: that they're driving. Was absolute shit, you know, But ye know,

1436
01:08:33,173 --> 01:08:35,812
Speaker 24: I thought of regular that one because you feel like

1437
01:08:35,853 --> 01:08:37,092
Speaker 24: it's road rage happens.

1438
01:08:37,133 --> 01:08:38,612
Speaker 5: Do you feel like it's a failing in you.

1439
01:08:38,652 --> 01:08:40,572
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you should take a few breaths

1440
01:08:40,612 --> 01:08:43,732
Speaker 2: and calm down, or you're happy to rage on for

1441
01:08:44,253 --> 01:08:46,092
Speaker 2: and become the batman of Wahiki Island.

1442
01:08:46,133 --> 01:08:48,293
Speaker 5: In terms of road rage.

1443
01:08:48,053 --> 01:08:51,132
Speaker 24: I think I should carry on because I mean, these people,

1444
01:08:51,333 --> 01:08:54,732
Speaker 24: like you know, they they doesn't look the ring starts

1445
01:08:54,812 --> 01:08:56,933
Speaker 24: for five on the motorbike because he was going to

1446
01:08:56,933 --> 01:09:00,572
Speaker 24: take someone out, and like, like, I just don't feel

1447
01:09:00,612 --> 01:09:02,972
Speaker 24: it's right just to leave them driving right there. Because

1448
01:09:03,013 --> 01:09:06,612
Speaker 24: if it doesn't kill someone, will hurt someone that's going

1449
01:09:06,652 --> 01:09:09,492
Speaker 24: to kill someone else or me. So I sort of

1450
01:09:09,732 --> 01:09:11,692
Speaker 24: have a sort of this weird sense of duty that

1451
01:09:12,333 --> 01:09:16,013
Speaker 24: if someone's driving dangerously or you know that they need

1452
01:09:16,093 --> 01:09:19,653
Speaker 24: to be that statuable five five needs to be utilized.

1453
01:09:19,692 --> 01:09:22,053
Speaker 24: And also I think it's I just couldn't live with

1454
01:09:22,173 --> 01:09:24,692
Speaker 24: myself and if they killed someone and I just didn't

1455
01:09:24,692 --> 01:09:25,732
Speaker 24: do anything about it.

1456
01:09:26,213 --> 01:09:28,452
Speaker 3: It sounds so seperate and lovely, now, LI, So what

1457
01:09:28,452 --> 01:09:30,253
Speaker 3: what is it that when you get behind the wheel

1458
01:09:30,293 --> 01:09:32,293
Speaker 3: you just turn into it? You know, you turn into

1459
01:09:32,333 --> 01:09:32,772
Speaker 3: the steamer?

1460
01:09:34,293 --> 01:09:36,372
Speaker 24: Well then because of that, because it's a fresh a

1461
01:09:36,452 --> 01:09:40,412
Speaker 24: shock response too, like if somebody has has cut you

1462
01:09:40,452 --> 01:09:42,012
Speaker 24: out and put you on the side of a ditch,

1463
01:09:42,253 --> 01:09:47,772
Speaker 24: and I'm a fight right responder, so I will fight

1464
01:09:47,893 --> 01:09:51,812
Speaker 24: pack it. So I just I just will go to

1465
01:09:52,372 --> 01:09:55,053
Speaker 24: I haven't I can't seem to regulate myself, so I

1466
01:09:55,093 --> 01:10:00,732
Speaker 24: will I just get really really angry at it.

1467
01:10:00,053 --> 01:10:03,013
Speaker 2: Are you worried that someone that you know you go

1468
01:10:03,053 --> 01:10:06,213
Speaker 2: and get really angry at someone. But that person maybe

1469
01:10:06,692 --> 01:10:11,852
Speaker 2: a unstable person, They maybe have been on meth or something,

1470
01:10:11,893 --> 01:10:14,612
Speaker 2: they're a violent person, and then that ends up being

1471
01:10:14,652 --> 01:10:16,612
Speaker 2: a terrible terrible day for you and your family.

1472
01:10:17,492 --> 01:10:19,652
Speaker 24: I wouldn't chase them if they would look like they're

1473
01:10:19,652 --> 01:10:20,132
Speaker 24: on metal.

1474
01:10:20,293 --> 01:10:21,173
Speaker 11: I was big and bulky.

1475
01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:22,333
Speaker 24: I will probably leave them alone.

1476
01:10:22,333 --> 01:10:28,093
Speaker 5: But just just chase the little peaceful looking ones, a little.

1477
01:10:27,812 --> 01:10:29,972
Speaker 24: Short one and the other one.

1478
01:10:30,133 --> 01:10:31,692
Speaker 25: The other one was that I'm going to be really

1479
01:10:31,692 --> 01:10:32,892
Speaker 25: I know people are going to say.

1480
01:10:32,772 --> 01:10:35,053
Speaker 24: That I'm one of the fagus, but that's what an

1481
01:10:35,053 --> 01:10:38,532
Speaker 24: Asian load of bike driver. And he was quite small,

1482
01:10:38,612 --> 01:10:41,412
Speaker 24: so I took my chances on him. So yeah, I

1483
01:10:41,492 --> 01:10:43,452
Speaker 24: just I think you just got to apply common sense.

1484
01:10:44,173 --> 01:10:47,173
Speaker 2: I wonder if people get think if you called Lisa.

1485
01:10:47,293 --> 01:10:49,412
Speaker 2: I wonder if you know, if you're a big, strong

1486
01:10:49,492 --> 01:10:52,372
Speaker 2: looking person, I wonder if you get sort of road privilege.

1487
01:10:52,412 --> 01:10:55,412
Speaker 5: You know, they talk about pretty privilege, road privilege where

1488
01:10:55,452 --> 01:10:57,732
Speaker 5: you can do what you want because everyone goes that

1489
01:10:57,812 --> 01:11:00,173
Speaker 5: person looks terrifying. So I'm just going to let them,

1490
01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:00,852
Speaker 5: let them go.

1491
01:11:00,933 --> 01:11:02,932
Speaker 3: If you're a big un, do you get road privilege?

1492
01:11:02,973 --> 01:11:05,053
Speaker 3: I imagine absolutely. You watch that. If you honk your

1493
01:11:05,053 --> 01:11:07,572
Speaker 3: horn and you turn around and it's a massive seven

1494
01:11:07,612 --> 01:11:10,093
Speaker 3: foot tall you'd be like, I'm so sorry, I'm so

1495
01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:11,772
Speaker 3: sorry I did that to you. Even if it's the

1496
01:11:11,853 --> 01:11:13,133
Speaker 3: nicest person around you.

1497
01:11:13,253 --> 01:11:15,053
Speaker 5: Good you tail game me whatever you want.

1498
01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:18,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, the road is yours. My friends, uh Rana,

1499
01:11:18,933 --> 01:11:24,812
Speaker 3: how are you this afternoon? Oh your phone line is

1500
01:11:24,853 --> 01:11:27,213
Speaker 3: not playing ball. Just step to the left or right

1501
01:11:27,213 --> 01:11:29,972
Speaker 3: and see if it comes right, and you keep talking

1502
01:11:29,973 --> 01:11:33,013
Speaker 3: with us. You had a road rage incident recently.

1503
01:11:33,893 --> 01:11:37,612
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it me bare Lee.

1504
01:11:37,772 --> 01:11:40,932
Speaker 3: Are you on to speaker phone?

1505
01:11:41,053 --> 01:11:41,213
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1506
01:11:41,253 --> 01:11:43,053
Speaker 3: If you can come off there speaker phone and then

1507
01:11:43,053 --> 01:11:46,133
Speaker 3: we'll be able to hear you beautifully.

1508
01:11:46,372 --> 01:11:46,933
Speaker 24: Can you hear me?

1509
01:11:47,692 --> 01:11:51,133
Speaker 3: Keep talking? Keep talking? We might have to try and yeah,

1510
01:11:51,173 --> 01:11:53,213
Speaker 3: we might cut you out. Sorry, mate, Yeah, we'll come

1511
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:55,173
Speaker 3: back to Iran. A couple of ticks coming through here.

1512
01:11:55,213 --> 01:11:56,612
Speaker 5: Ahi, guys. This happened in Auckland.

1513
01:11:56,652 --> 01:11:59,013
Speaker 2: I was driving below the speed limit and a guy

1514
01:11:59,053 --> 01:12:01,812
Speaker 2: suddenly cut me off. I honked and he show slowed,

1515
01:12:01,853 --> 01:12:03,852
Speaker 2: pulled up alongside me and asked me to roll down

1516
01:12:03,893 --> 01:12:05,772
Speaker 2: my window, which I did. He started swearing and told

1517
01:12:05,812 --> 01:12:08,093
Speaker 2: me not to honk. I noticed a couple of young

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01:12:08,093 --> 01:12:11,333
Speaker 2: guys in his car who looked stoned. I swallowed my

1519
01:12:11,333 --> 01:12:13,133
Speaker 2: pride apologize, and he responded.

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01:12:12,893 --> 01:12:15,732
Speaker 3: You better be off, geez, tough guy.

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01:12:15,812 --> 01:12:18,492
Speaker 5: It's better to swallow your pride. Than end up in

1522
01:12:18,492 --> 01:12:20,532
Speaker 5: some kind of physical old casion.

1523
01:12:20,333 --> 01:12:21,333
Speaker 3: Get stomped on the face.

1524
01:12:21,933 --> 01:12:24,293
Speaker 2: I was driving along and saw a drunk, drugged out

1525
01:12:24,293 --> 01:12:27,213
Speaker 2: crazy person weaving all over the place, very very slow speed.

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01:12:27,213 --> 01:12:29,053
Speaker 5: So I drove up beside them, had a lock, but

1527
01:12:29,093 --> 01:12:31,093
Speaker 5: it was just a young lady who was a really

1528
01:12:31,133 --> 01:12:32,012
Speaker 5: really bad driver.

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01:12:32,173 --> 01:12:35,892
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's a nice into that story. Maybe, ah right, yeah,

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01:12:35,973 --> 01:12:38,692
Speaker 3: kind of right. We're gonna take a quick break, but

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01:12:38,772 --> 01:12:41,173
Speaker 3: when we come back, hopefully we've got a Rana back

1532
01:12:41,572 --> 01:12:43,812
Speaker 3: and also a Joy who used to be a bit

1533
01:12:43,853 --> 01:12:46,293
Speaker 3: of a road rager as well. So that's coming next

1534
01:12:46,293 --> 01:12:48,093
Speaker 3: to as nine to three The.

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01:12:48,133 --> 01:12:50,692
Speaker 1: Issues that affect you and a bit of fun along

1536
01:12:50,692 --> 01:12:54,613
Speaker 1: the way, Mad Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:59,333
Speaker 3: Hebb News Talks b It is six to three. Joy,

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01:12:59,452 --> 01:13:01,093
Speaker 3: you're a former road rager as well.

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01:13:02,093 --> 01:13:04,532
Speaker 26: I am. I was really mess as for swearing and

1540
01:13:04,612 --> 01:13:07,572
Speaker 26: yelling if anybody that cut me off or proceeds to

1541
01:13:07,572 --> 01:13:09,093
Speaker 26: cut me off, was totally and right.

1542
01:13:09,133 --> 01:13:13,213
Speaker 4: And I was still raging, but you go.

1543
01:13:14,213 --> 01:13:15,933
Speaker 26: Yeah, And my son was in the car with me

1544
01:13:16,013 --> 01:13:18,452
Speaker 26: who was put off by my stearing and yelling, so

1545
01:13:18,492 --> 01:13:21,972
Speaker 26: he decided to suggest instead of me yelling out smeear

1546
01:13:22,013 --> 01:13:25,372
Speaker 26: words and what have you to yell out pasta instead,

1547
01:13:25,532 --> 01:13:28,053
Speaker 26: like you know, peanut of aabiata or what have you.

1548
01:13:28,053 --> 01:13:30,372
Speaker 26: So I ended up becoming a road rager and intervisually

1549
01:13:30,372 --> 01:13:33,733
Speaker 26: became a racist by yelling out an Italian.

1550
01:13:33,372 --> 01:13:34,173
Speaker 16: Voice, you.

1551
01:13:37,652 --> 01:13:43,133
Speaker 26: Know sort of thing. And yeah, and so if you

1552
01:13:43,133 --> 01:13:44,932
Speaker 26: hear that coming on christ Street from me yelling out

1553
01:13:44,973 --> 01:13:46,612
Speaker 26: past it because I'm learning.

1554
01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:47,732
Speaker 11: I'm learning.

1555
01:13:47,933 --> 01:13:49,532
Speaker 5: Yeah, one day you're going to do you'll do it

1556
01:13:49,572 --> 01:13:52,573
Speaker 5: to an Italian person and they'll take it very very personally.

1557
01:13:53,013 --> 01:13:53,213
Speaker 24: I know.

1558
01:13:53,333 --> 01:13:55,692
Speaker 26: It don't just occurred to me that I probably should change.

1559
01:13:55,893 --> 01:13:58,213
Speaker 26: You know, She's just something else, maybe not yet so raging,

1560
01:13:58,293 --> 01:14:00,732
Speaker 26: but it's a read of more fun and more laughing.

1561
01:14:00,732 --> 01:14:01,772
Speaker 26: And I got out of my rage.

1562
01:14:02,452 --> 01:14:04,852
Speaker 3: It's a great technique. So just yelled out different types

1563
01:14:04,853 --> 01:14:07,133
Speaker 3: of pasta. You must be pretty knowledgeable about pastor at

1564
01:14:07,133 --> 01:14:08,812
Speaker 3: the stage I had.

1565
01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:12,333
Speaker 26: To lean up on it and one I had to

1566
01:14:12,333 --> 01:14:12,972
Speaker 26: cook for my son.

1567
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:17,372
Speaker 5: Could you mix it up with different dishes beef Wellington?

1568
01:14:19,812 --> 01:14:25,812
Speaker 26: Yeah, it doesn't sound like with that an accent. Yeah,

1569
01:14:25,933 --> 01:14:33,412
Speaker 26: so yeah, undergot you want me to make it it

1570
01:14:33,692 --> 01:14:34,372
Speaker 26: being extreme?

1571
01:14:36,253 --> 01:14:38,213
Speaker 3: You're great, Thank you very much.

1572
01:14:39,853 --> 01:14:43,213
Speaker 2: All right, it's it's easy to get angry on the

1573
01:14:43,253 --> 01:14:46,333
Speaker 2: road when someone does something there that puts you and

1574
01:14:46,372 --> 01:14:48,173
Speaker 2: your family at risk. But but when you choose to

1575
01:14:48,213 --> 01:14:50,932
Speaker 2: hongkore flip that person off, you might want to consider

1576
01:14:51,013 --> 01:14:54,732
Speaker 2: the possibility, just the possibility that that person is a

1577
01:14:54,772 --> 01:14:57,492
Speaker 2: messed out psychopath looking for a fight, been up for

1578
01:14:57,532 --> 01:14:59,853
Speaker 2: three days and they don't know what's going on. So

1579
01:14:59,853 --> 01:15:03,093
Speaker 2: so maybe maybe take a few breaths and calm down

1580
01:15:03,133 --> 01:15:06,212
Speaker 2: a little bit before you act. Make sure you really

1581
01:15:06,253 --> 01:15:08,732
Speaker 2: want to go through with the horn based or finger

1582
01:15:08,772 --> 01:15:13,012
Speaker 2: based or vocally based revenge you were aiming at the person.

1583
01:15:13,452 --> 01:15:15,532
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some people out there that need to

1584
01:15:15,532 --> 01:15:18,772
Speaker 2: be told that they're bad drivers, but you know, it's

1585
01:15:18,812 --> 01:15:21,732
Speaker 2: not always the best idea to be that person that

1586
01:15:21,893 --> 01:15:24,772
Speaker 2: enforces that law, yeah, because it might end up with

1587
01:15:24,973 --> 01:15:27,452
Speaker 2: like it did to this particular guy, with his head

1588
01:15:27,452 --> 01:15:28,572
Speaker 2: being stopped on the side of.

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01:15:28,572 --> 01:15:31,612
Speaker 3: The road, and nobody wants that. Great discussion. Thank you

1590
01:15:31,652 --> 01:15:35,333
Speaker 3: to everyone who called and corresponded on that topic. Coming

1591
01:15:35,412 --> 01:15:37,612
Speaker 3: up after three o'clock, we wanted to have a chat

1592
01:15:37,652 --> 01:15:41,213
Speaker 3: about alcohol. This time. It's a longevity doctor. He's written

1593
01:15:41,213 --> 01:15:45,052
Speaker 3: a piece in the Herald and he argues that life, stress,

1594
01:15:45,133 --> 01:15:50,292
Speaker 3: fear and constant anxiety can be helped with moderate drinking.

1595
01:15:50,732 --> 01:15:53,133
Speaker 3: What do you say, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1596
01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:55,572
Speaker 3: is that number to call and nine two ninety two

1597
01:15:55,692 --> 01:15:58,892
Speaker 3: is the text love to get your thoughts on this one.

1598
01:15:59,093 --> 01:16:01,732
Speaker 3: Is moderate drinking okay when it comes to stress, fear

1599
01:16:01,893 --> 01:16:04,772
Speaker 3: and anxiety? Or have you given it up altogether and

1600
01:16:04,853 --> 01:16:05,812
Speaker 3: your life is better?

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01:16:05,853 --> 01:16:11,173
Speaker 21: Newss Next Big Stories, The Leak, Issues, the trends and

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01:16:11,532 --> 01:16:12,492
Speaker 21: everything in between.

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01:16:12,853 --> 01:16:17,733
Speaker 1: Kids Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoon Squiff Schodder News Talks.

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01:16:17,372 --> 01:16:21,532
Speaker 3: Heavy Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show

1605
01:16:21,652 --> 01:16:24,852
Speaker 3: seven past three. Great to have your company as always.

1606
01:16:25,093 --> 01:16:27,892
Speaker 3: Hope you having a good Monday afternoon. Let's have a

1607
01:16:27,893 --> 01:16:31,933
Speaker 3: discussion about alcohol. A New Zealand's Herald article explores a

1608
01:16:32,013 --> 01:16:37,133
Speaker 3: doctor's perspective on booze and longevity, arguing that excessive worry

1609
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:41,452
Speaker 3: about health may be more damaging than occasionally enjoying a drink.

1610
01:16:41,692 --> 01:16:45,452
Speaker 3: It's by doctor Simon Fieldhase. Here's that longevity doctor. He

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01:16:45,532 --> 01:16:49,772
Speaker 3: suggests that while heavy drinking is obviously harmful, moderate alcohol consumption,

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01:16:49,933 --> 01:16:52,372
Speaker 3: such as a glass of wine, can fit with a

1613
01:16:52,492 --> 01:16:57,293
Speaker 3: healthy lifestyle. That values relaxation, social connection, and balance. The

1614
01:16:57,372 --> 01:17:01,253
Speaker 3: piece also highlights how stress fair and constant health anxiety

1615
01:17:01,652 --> 01:17:04,492
Speaker 3: can negatively affect well being over time. It also notes

1616
01:17:04,532 --> 01:17:07,732
Speaker 3: that the topic remains debated, with many public health experts

1617
01:17:07,732 --> 01:17:13,012
Speaker 3: continuing to recommend limiting alcohol and many studies coming out

1618
01:17:13,293 --> 01:17:16,812
Speaker 3: saying that any alcohol is bad for your health.

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01:17:16,853 --> 01:17:18,772
Speaker 5: So what does he mean by moderate alcohol consumption?

1620
01:17:19,372 --> 01:17:22,173
Speaker 3: He goes on to say, a glass of wine in

1621
01:17:22,213 --> 01:17:26,492
Speaker 3: the evening, So seven standard drinks a week would be

1622
01:17:26,532 --> 01:17:27,772
Speaker 3: classed as moderate drinking.

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01:17:27,933 --> 01:17:30,052
Speaker 5: All right, okay, so that's probably not what most people

1624
01:17:30,053 --> 01:17:33,572
Speaker 5: would create class as moderate drinking. I mean in New Zealand,

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01:17:33,732 --> 01:17:35,172
Speaker 5: that would be very light drinking.

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01:17:35,253 --> 01:17:38,093
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, just a glass. And look, I mean,

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01:17:38,213 --> 01:17:42,612
Speaker 2: unless you're running a very weak system, then surely one

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01:17:42,692 --> 01:17:45,253
Speaker 2: glass of wine you can survive it. But you know,

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01:17:45,253 --> 01:17:48,253
Speaker 2: all the studies say that that one glass of wine

1630
01:17:48,253 --> 01:17:52,692
Speaker 2: will make you sleep poorly. Even one glass of wine

1631
01:17:52,893 --> 01:17:56,732
Speaker 2: makes you sleep far worse. So you you know, if

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01:17:57,053 --> 01:18:00,972
Speaker 2: the stress relieving benefits of that one glass of wine

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01:18:01,572 --> 01:18:05,492
Speaker 2: maybe offite set completely by the fact that you don't

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01:18:05,492 --> 01:18:06,132
Speaker 2: get enough.

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01:18:05,973 --> 01:18:08,092
Speaker 5: Sleep, and sleep is one of the best stress relievers

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01:18:08,093 --> 01:18:10,612
Speaker 5: in the world, right, Yes, I mean, all health comes

1637
01:18:10,612 --> 01:18:13,093
Speaker 5: back to sleep when you look into it. Yeah, so

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01:18:14,133 --> 01:18:14,812
Speaker 5: it is interesting.

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01:18:15,933 --> 01:18:19,732
Speaker 2: I mean it does seem unrealistic, you know when people

1640
01:18:19,812 --> 01:18:22,053
Speaker 2: all these studies coming out. Now I'm just flicking through

1641
01:18:22,093 --> 01:18:25,692
Speaker 2: study after study saying that zero alcohol is the only

1642
01:18:25,692 --> 01:18:29,732
Speaker 2: healthy amount of alcohol. But this most recent study here

1643
01:18:30,013 --> 01:18:33,532
Speaker 2: is saying, oh is this one here? I was just

1644
01:18:33,572 --> 01:18:38,692
Speaker 2: looking at the so weekly risk scale, zero drinks a week,

1645
01:18:39,532 --> 01:18:40,692
Speaker 2: no risk from alcohol.

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01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:44,173
Speaker 5: Funny that came out with the study. Funny that zero

1647
01:18:44,253 --> 01:18:46,892
Speaker 5: alcohol in a week, then your alcohol risk is zero.

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01:18:47,013 --> 01:18:48,932
Speaker 3: That is great. How much did they spend on that study?

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01:18:49,013 --> 01:18:50,892
Speaker 2: Well, you say it's truism, but he's saying there might

1650
01:18:50,933 --> 01:18:54,053
Speaker 2: be a risk of being stressed both having zero alcohol. Yeah,

1651
01:18:54,492 --> 01:18:56,932
Speaker 2: so your alcohol risk is that you're not having alcohol exactly.

1652
01:18:57,412 --> 01:18:59,492
Speaker 3: I think he mate to the point that that health anxiety,

1653
01:18:59,492 --> 01:19:01,213
Speaker 3: and there's been so much and as you say, study

1654
01:19:01,213 --> 01:19:03,812
Speaker 3: after study showing the damage that any alcohol does to

1655
01:19:03,853 --> 01:19:06,813
Speaker 3: a person's body. But his point was, all that anxiety

1656
01:19:06,893 --> 01:19:10,412
Speaker 3: you feel about trying to stay away from booze arguably

1657
01:19:10,572 --> 01:19:12,532
Speaker 3: is more harmful for you that if you've got any

1658
01:19:12,572 --> 01:19:15,133
Speaker 3: sort of cortisol running through your system because you're worried

1659
01:19:15,173 --> 01:19:17,852
Speaker 3: that that glass of wine is going to interrupt your

1660
01:19:18,053 --> 01:19:21,293
Speaker 3: sleep for eight hours, then that could be doing more

1661
01:19:21,333 --> 01:19:23,772
Speaker 3: harm than good. And that the trend on sleep at

1662
01:19:23,772 --> 01:19:27,612
Speaker 3: the moment. And don't get me wrong, sleep is vitally important.

1663
01:19:27,893 --> 01:19:31,172
Speaker 3: But I see friend after friend posting up on social

1664
01:19:31,213 --> 01:19:34,452
Speaker 3: media their Whoop scores or their Apple Watch scores saying

1665
01:19:34,492 --> 01:19:37,492
Speaker 3: that one drink has completely screwed my whole sleep, And

1666
01:19:37,572 --> 01:19:39,492
Speaker 3: I just don't know if there's you know, is that

1667
01:19:39,612 --> 01:19:43,253
Speaker 3: really that valuable for that person to monitor it that closely?

1668
01:19:43,333 --> 01:19:45,253
Speaker 3: They've had a beer and all of a sudden they

1669
01:19:45,253 --> 01:19:47,492
Speaker 3: reckon their night of sleep. Is a complete right off?

1670
01:19:47,732 --> 01:19:51,092
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it doesn't matter what they reckon. Alcohol

1671
01:19:51,412 --> 01:19:53,612
Speaker 2: prevents you from sleeping properly, So what do you reckon about?

1672
01:19:53,612 --> 01:19:55,293
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with it, right.

1673
01:19:55,133 --> 01:19:56,093
Speaker 3: But it's the monitoring of it.

1674
01:19:56,213 --> 01:19:57,772
Speaker 2: But I mean, and you really think there's people that

1675
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:00,572
Speaker 2: stress out so much about either having a drink or

1676
01:20:00,572 --> 01:20:01,932
Speaker 2: not having a drink that they can't go to sleep

1677
01:20:01,933 --> 01:20:03,852
Speaker 2: because they're stressing out about whether they've had a drink

1678
01:20:03,893 --> 01:20:04,053
Speaker 2: or not.

1679
01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:06,452
Speaker 3: Now I've seen it. I've seen it online they post

1680
01:20:06,492 --> 01:20:08,692
Speaker 3: and say, look what this beer did to my sleep score.

1681
01:20:08,893 --> 01:20:11,012
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to have to rearrange my whole next day.

1682
01:20:11,133 --> 01:20:13,013
Speaker 5: That sleep score stuff is taken it too far if

1683
01:20:13,013 --> 01:20:13,412
Speaker 5: you ask me.

1684
01:20:13,732 --> 01:20:15,293
Speaker 2: But anyway to go back what I was saying, zero

1685
01:20:15,333 --> 01:20:18,213
Speaker 2: drinks no alcohol risk, One to two drinks a week

1686
01:20:18,412 --> 01:20:21,972
Speaker 2: low risk, three to six drinks a week moderate risk

1687
01:20:22,492 --> 01:20:25,732
Speaker 2: according to the study, seven plus drinks a week high risk.

1688
01:20:26,412 --> 01:20:27,452
Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't.

1689
01:20:27,213 --> 01:20:32,772
Speaker 2: Necessarily list exactly what those risks are, but we kind

1690
01:20:32,772 --> 01:20:36,293
Speaker 2: of know what they are, don't we. Yeah, so, yeah,

1691
01:20:37,093 --> 01:20:39,412
Speaker 2: I don't know. The thing about alcohol that it definitely

1692
01:20:39,452 --> 01:20:41,213
Speaker 2: does whatever problem that you have right now.

1693
01:20:41,933 --> 01:20:44,892
Speaker 5: If you're anxious about something, you're worrying about work, then

1694
01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:46,333
Speaker 5: you can have a drink of alcohol and you don't

1695
01:20:46,372 --> 01:20:47,253
Speaker 5: worry about it anymore.

1696
01:20:47,412 --> 01:20:47,612
Speaker 12: Yep.

1697
01:20:47,772 --> 01:20:50,213
Speaker 2: At that point it's a stop gap and you're worry

1698
01:20:50,893 --> 01:20:54,732
Speaker 2: and it does lead to relaxation. But how many people

1699
01:20:54,732 --> 01:20:56,972
Speaker 2: out there have one wine and stop Not many?

1700
01:20:57,173 --> 01:20:57,492
Speaker 3: I don't.

1701
01:20:57,732 --> 01:20:59,253
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never been able to no it.

1702
01:20:59,253 --> 01:21:01,133
Speaker 3: I'd probably be half a bottle, if not the whole bottle.

1703
01:21:01,173 --> 01:21:02,892
Speaker 2: If I have one glass of wine, next thing you know,

1704
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:04,892
Speaker 2: there's a bottle gone. And if there's no more bottles

1705
01:21:04,893 --> 01:21:06,012
Speaker 2: in the house, we down the bottle store.

1706
01:21:06,093 --> 01:21:06,293
Speaker 8: YEP.

1707
01:21:06,412 --> 01:21:08,692
Speaker 3: Yep. So what do you say on this undred and

1708
01:21:08,692 --> 01:21:11,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty worth? So many studies now coming out

1709
01:21:11,173 --> 01:21:13,532
Speaker 3: say no amount of alcohol is good for you? Do

1710
01:21:13,572 --> 01:21:16,812
Speaker 3: you think there are positives like this? Longevity doctor argues,

1711
01:21:17,093 --> 01:21:20,053
Speaker 3: from drinking moderate booze that goes above what it might

1712
01:21:20,093 --> 01:21:22,213
Speaker 3: do to your health and sleep. Oh eight hundred eighty

1713
01:21:22,213 --> 01:21:24,492
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to cool? Nine two ninety

1714
01:21:24,492 --> 01:21:28,333
Speaker 3: two is the text as well? Shear your views will

1715
01:21:28,372 --> 01:21:30,253
Speaker 3: be back. We will be back very shortly. It is

1716
01:21:30,293 --> 01:21:33,612
Speaker 3: twelve past three. Whose talks, it'd be very good afternoon

1717
01:21:33,692 --> 01:21:35,852
Speaker 3: you It is a quarter past three. So are we

1718
01:21:35,933 --> 01:21:40,532
Speaker 3: worrying too much about our alcohol consumption? Longevity doctor Simon

1719
01:21:40,612 --> 01:21:43,213
Speaker 3: Fieldhause thinks we are. But what do you say, Oh,

1720
01:21:43,253 --> 01:21:46,133
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call work?

1721
01:21:46,293 --> 01:21:48,253
Speaker 2: Listen to the doctor. That means a glass of wine tonight?

1722
01:21:49,093 --> 01:21:51,572
Speaker 2: Best I get a seven hundred more glass or two?

1723
01:21:52,572 --> 01:21:54,092
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a good loophole.

1724
01:21:54,333 --> 01:21:56,812
Speaker 2: They were say things so like, you know, a glass

1725
01:21:56,812 --> 01:21:59,772
Speaker 2: of wine a night. But yeah, there's very different sizes

1726
01:21:59,812 --> 01:22:00,892
Speaker 2: of glass. Glass of wine.

1727
01:22:00,893 --> 01:22:02,812
Speaker 3: Now, no one's having a two hundred and fifty at home?

1728
01:22:02,812 --> 01:22:04,093
Speaker 3: Are they? Surely not well.

1729
01:22:03,973 --> 01:22:06,652
Speaker 2: There's a Southern poor like if you go to you know,

1730
01:22:06,772 --> 01:22:10,572
Speaker 2: South and Eden, We're I'm from yep that and you

1731
01:22:10,652 --> 01:22:12,532
Speaker 2: go to an establishment, they'll pull your glass of one

1732
01:22:12,612 --> 01:22:14,133
Speaker 2: right to the top, so which just goes. It's a

1733
01:22:14,173 --> 01:22:18,253
Speaker 2: bit of a it's a convex situation.

1734
01:22:18,053 --> 01:22:19,973
Speaker 3: Southern por right at the very top. And I just

1735
01:22:20,013 --> 01:22:22,052
Speaker 3: realized two hundred and fifty is actually a large glass

1736
01:22:22,093 --> 01:22:24,053
Speaker 3: of wine. One hundred and fifty is what they usually do.

1737
01:22:24,572 --> 01:22:28,133
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text highlight head.

1738
01:22:28,213 --> 01:22:30,812
Speaker 2: Sounds like that longevity doctor is looking for an excuse

1739
01:22:31,492 --> 01:22:34,492
Speaker 2: for a drinking problem. Yeah, maybe potentially, Sarah, welcome to

1740
01:22:34,492 --> 01:22:34,812
Speaker 2: the show.

1741
01:22:36,572 --> 01:22:39,492
Speaker 3: Hi, how are you? We're good and nice to check

1742
01:22:39,532 --> 01:22:42,732
Speaker 3: with you. So currently you are undertaking four months of

1743
01:22:42,732 --> 01:22:43,213
Speaker 3: no drinking?

1744
01:22:43,253 --> 01:22:43,692
Speaker 20: Is that right?

1745
01:22:44,532 --> 01:22:45,372
Speaker 25: That's correct?

1746
01:22:45,452 --> 01:22:49,013
Speaker 3: Yeah? And how far down? You're three weeks right?

1747
01:22:50,452 --> 01:22:52,532
Speaker 2: So are you sure it's going to be four months

1748
01:22:52,572 --> 01:22:55,293
Speaker 2: of non drinking? That's the attempt, that's the.

1749
01:22:55,253 --> 01:23:00,532
Speaker 25: Goal, that's the that's the intention. I think I've wanted

1750
01:23:00,572 --> 01:23:02,852
Speaker 25: to do long enough rather than just do a month,

1751
01:23:02,973 --> 01:23:06,372
Speaker 25: which the book that I was reading suggested during thirty

1752
01:23:06,412 --> 01:23:08,253
Speaker 25: yos alcohol free, but I thought that was a little

1753
01:23:08,532 --> 01:23:13,213
Speaker 25: too easy, so went for four months, which will align

1754
01:23:13,213 --> 01:23:14,012
Speaker 25: with my birthday.

1755
01:23:14,572 --> 01:23:15,372
Speaker 5: Awesome.

1756
01:23:14,973 --> 01:23:18,132
Speaker 2: How much were you drinking if you don't mind sharing

1757
01:23:18,333 --> 01:23:22,133
Speaker 2: before you started this four months test?

1758
01:23:22,893 --> 01:23:25,412
Speaker 25: Probably like a couple of times a week. I'd have

1759
01:23:25,452 --> 01:23:26,812
Speaker 25: a glass of wine when I got home.

1760
01:23:27,133 --> 01:23:30,452
Speaker 5: It's not too bad, just a glass of wine.

1761
01:23:29,692 --> 01:23:33,253
Speaker 25: Yes, correct, and then the occasional bigger night drinking yees.

1762
01:23:33,412 --> 01:23:36,812
Speaker 2: So how often would you go out on a sort

1763
01:23:36,812 --> 01:23:39,412
Speaker 2: of for want a bit of word bender once a

1764
01:23:39,452 --> 01:23:42,572
Speaker 2: month so you don't seem like it like in New

1765
01:23:42,652 --> 01:23:46,173
Speaker 2: Zealand terms, that's not a major drinker really.

1766
01:23:46,933 --> 01:23:49,733
Speaker 25: No, But it was just more that there was association

1767
01:23:49,973 --> 01:23:52,652
Speaker 25: forming with a stressful afternoon and a glass of wine

1768
01:23:52,692 --> 01:23:54,692
Speaker 25: that I thought, I don't know if this is the

1769
01:23:54,692 --> 01:23:58,253
Speaker 25: best way to be doing things, And so I started

1770
01:23:58,293 --> 01:24:00,812
Speaker 25: reading a book or listening to an audiobook called a

1771
01:24:00,812 --> 01:24:04,972
Speaker 25: thirty Day Alcohol Experiment, which really breaks down a lot

1772
01:24:05,013 --> 01:24:11,692
Speaker 25: of our common misconceptions around alcohol, such as that it

1773
01:24:11,732 --> 01:24:15,092
Speaker 25: relaxes us, when realistically the body does to our body

1774
01:24:15,133 --> 01:24:16,293
Speaker 25: is quite the opposite.

1775
01:24:17,732 --> 01:24:20,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why do we feel like it does if

1776
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:22,293
Speaker 2: it does the opposite, Because we all know that feeling

1777
01:24:22,333 --> 01:24:24,652
Speaker 2: you're quite stressed at work, you've finished maybe on a

1778
01:24:24,692 --> 01:24:28,372
Speaker 2: Friday and you sit down and you have a beer

1779
01:24:28,612 --> 01:24:32,692
Speaker 2: or a wine or something, and it just feels like, ah,

1780
01:24:33,572 --> 01:24:35,213
Speaker 2: it just feels it just feels good.

1781
01:24:35,893 --> 01:24:36,333
Speaker 5: Why is that?

1782
01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:41,053
Speaker 25: Well, that's just the drug, really, isn't it. That's what

1783
01:24:41,093 --> 01:24:43,452
Speaker 25: it does. But what happens in the background is your

1784
01:24:43,492 --> 01:24:46,293
Speaker 25: body works even harder to compensate that. And I think

1785
01:24:46,333 --> 01:24:49,692
Speaker 25: they don't quote me from the science, but that sort

1786
01:24:49,732 --> 01:24:52,892
Speaker 25: of relaxation only lasts about thirty minutes before our body

1787
01:24:52,933 --> 01:24:56,012
Speaker 25: starts trying to find another one. Yeah, it's just basically

1788
01:24:56,053 --> 01:24:59,133
Speaker 25: a simulation that you're chasing that same feeling, but it's not.

1789
01:24:59,412 --> 01:25:03,613
Speaker 25: Your body's actually working harder to making you more stressed

1790
01:25:04,173 --> 01:25:05,652
Speaker 25: by trying to maintain that feeling.

1791
01:25:05,933 --> 01:25:06,732
Speaker 3: Where I go wrong.

1792
01:25:06,853 --> 01:25:07,572
Speaker 5: You have the drink.

1793
01:25:07,652 --> 01:25:09,093
Speaker 2: You have a drink, and then the drink has you,

1794
01:25:09,173 --> 01:25:12,333
Speaker 2: as they say, because you need, you keep having to

1795
01:25:12,372 --> 01:25:15,372
Speaker 2: have more drinks to feel that same feeling that you've

1796
01:25:15,412 --> 01:25:17,452
Speaker 2: got at the start, and you never really get it back.

1797
01:25:18,053 --> 01:25:19,772
Speaker 25: No, you don't, and then you get all the negative

1798
01:25:19,772 --> 01:25:22,452
Speaker 25: stuff like the hangover and the what the hell did

1799
01:25:22,452 --> 01:25:23,372
Speaker 25: I say last night?

1800
01:25:24,253 --> 01:25:26,173
Speaker 2: I mean that's something that can happen where you have

1801
01:25:26,253 --> 01:25:28,852
Speaker 2: a drink to relax, you've had a stressful week, and

1802
01:25:28,893 --> 01:25:30,253
Speaker 2: then you have more and more, and then the night

1803
01:25:30,293 --> 01:25:33,452
Speaker 2: gets out of control and then you're boozing and boozing boozing,

1804
01:25:33,492 --> 01:25:36,253
Speaker 2: and you wake up with so much additional stress to

1805
01:25:36,293 --> 01:25:38,892
Speaker 2: the stress that you had it due to the night out.

1806
01:25:39,053 --> 01:25:42,652
Speaker 2: And not only only that, but you know anxiety, the

1807
01:25:42,692 --> 01:25:44,572
Speaker 2: way alcohol makes you feel the next.

1808
01:25:44,492 --> 01:25:47,212
Speaker 5: Day, which is just stressed about everything impending.

1809
01:25:47,253 --> 01:25:49,892
Speaker 25: Since was one hundreds, That's my problem. It wasn't the

1810
01:25:49,933 --> 01:25:52,213
Speaker 25: one after the one drink in the afternoon. It was

1811
01:25:52,372 --> 01:25:55,652
Speaker 25: that exact situation that you described there where it would

1812
01:25:55,652 --> 01:25:58,852
Speaker 25: be amongst friends or worse colleagues, and you bake up

1813
01:25:58,853 --> 01:26:02,092
Speaker 25: in the morning just with the regret and the waste

1814
01:26:02,093 --> 01:26:06,852
Speaker 25: of a Saturday morning. And so through the alcohol, the

1815
01:26:06,893 --> 01:26:09,052
Speaker 25: research that I've been doing into it, like you realize

1816
01:26:09,053 --> 01:26:11,333
Speaker 25: it actually even just that one glass in the afternoon,

1817
01:26:11,893 --> 01:26:13,412
Speaker 25: well do you think it's relaxing? You?

1818
01:26:13,933 --> 01:26:14,013
Speaker 16: Like?

1819
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:16,093
Speaker 25: It takes two weeks for alcohol to get out of

1820
01:26:16,093 --> 01:26:19,213
Speaker 25: your body, so you're actually there's just so much more

1821
01:26:19,213 --> 01:26:21,612
Speaker 25: into it. But in saying all this, I'll probably get

1822
01:26:21,652 --> 01:26:25,853
Speaker 25: four months in and have another buddy drink.

1823
01:26:26,013 --> 01:26:28,253
Speaker 2: How are you feeling after three weeks? Are you a

1824
01:26:28,333 --> 01:26:30,812
Speaker 2: noticeable change in your life for the better.

1825
01:26:32,812 --> 01:26:34,093
Speaker 25: I'll be honest, not yet.

1826
01:26:36,532 --> 01:26:37,412
Speaker 5: I always hear.

1827
01:26:37,213 --> 01:26:41,133
Speaker 2: This, Yeah, so I haven't. I haven't, Sarah, I haven't

1828
01:26:41,133 --> 01:26:43,692
Speaker 2: had a drink in over a year, and it was

1829
01:26:43,772 --> 01:26:46,612
Speaker 2: it was sort of just because I was asked whether

1830
01:26:46,732 --> 01:26:50,092
Speaker 2: I could really And so my partner Tracy, who's annoyed

1831
01:26:50,093 --> 01:26:51,892
Speaker 2: that I'm not drinking because she says I'm becoming boring,

1832
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:53,652
Speaker 2: But she says, I'm just doing it for out of

1833
01:26:53,652 --> 01:26:56,133
Speaker 2: stubbornness because I said I would.

1834
01:26:56,173 --> 01:26:58,053
Speaker 5: And if I say I'm going to do something, I

1835
01:26:58,173 --> 01:27:00,492
Speaker 5: like to go through with it. But I'm with you,

1836
01:27:00,853 --> 01:27:02,612
Speaker 5: I haven't experienced any health benefits.

1837
01:27:03,692 --> 01:27:08,173
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, it's life changing, but I yeah, I'm yet

1838
01:27:08,213 --> 01:27:10,293
Speaker 25: to have that moment. But maybe that's because it wasn't

1839
01:27:10,333 --> 01:27:11,293
Speaker 25: impacting my life.

1840
01:27:12,013 --> 01:27:16,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were in a bottle of wine a night

1841
01:27:16,772 --> 01:27:20,532
Speaker 2: person at SRA, so you sort of haven't made that

1842
01:27:20,692 --> 01:27:23,932
Speaker 2: massive change. It set for those odd once a month

1843
01:27:24,412 --> 01:27:26,492
Speaker 2: you know, benders for want of a bit of a word,

1844
01:27:27,893 --> 01:27:32,452
Speaker 2: you know, they probably weren't affecting your overall health from

1845
01:27:32,492 --> 01:27:34,732
Speaker 2: day to day because they were sort of an outlying event,

1846
01:27:35,333 --> 01:27:38,293
Speaker 2: whereas a lot of people are having what you would

1847
01:27:38,333 --> 01:27:42,412
Speaker 2: have considered a big night out, you know, three times

1848
01:27:42,412 --> 01:27:44,772
Speaker 2: a week or or more correct.

1849
01:27:44,853 --> 01:27:46,892
Speaker 25: Yeah, And I think that's probably the part of it

1850
01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:49,013
Speaker 25: that I'd like to, you know, take out of my

1851
01:27:49,093 --> 01:27:51,892
Speaker 25: life as situations like that, where if I do go

1852
01:27:51,933 --> 01:27:56,452
Speaker 25: back to drinking, it's in moderation, less frequently and just

1853
01:27:56,612 --> 01:28:00,212
Speaker 25: for the enjoyment of that single drink rather than getting

1854
01:28:01,133 --> 01:28:02,732
Speaker 25: pested and making it fall with myself.

1855
01:28:02,812 --> 01:28:03,012
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1856
01:28:03,093 --> 01:28:06,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people would hear that that's the trick. Yeah,

1857
01:28:07,333 --> 01:28:07,852
Speaker 3: that's the trick.

1858
01:28:07,853 --> 01:28:11,492
Speaker 5: I don't even managed to.

1859
01:28:13,812 --> 01:28:15,772
Speaker 2: But the problem when you don't drink as well, Sarah,

1860
01:28:16,013 --> 01:28:19,492
Speaker 2: is that all the drama disappears from your life because

1861
01:28:19,532 --> 01:28:23,612
Speaker 2: you completely control of everything. All your admin's done, you're across,

1862
01:28:23,732 --> 01:28:25,772
Speaker 2: your taxes, you're across if there's nothing that you're not

1863
01:28:26,133 --> 01:28:31,173
Speaker 2: in control of, and nothing that random happens, so you

1864
01:28:31,293 --> 01:28:33,532
Speaker 2: kind of get this drama free life, which is I

1865
01:28:33,572 --> 01:28:33,892
Speaker 2: don't know, it.

1866
01:28:33,933 --> 01:28:35,732
Speaker 3: Sounds okay, but that really boring.

1867
01:28:35,732 --> 01:28:40,053
Speaker 2: There's something very dramatic about getting steamed, very well, there's

1868
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:42,412
Speaker 2: something quite dramatic about getting steamed and then talking to

1869
01:28:42,412 --> 01:28:46,133
Speaker 2: your friends the next day and going, oh god, there's

1870
01:28:46,173 --> 01:28:46,652
Speaker 2: something to it.

1871
01:28:46,893 --> 01:28:48,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, so, Sarah. When you go out for

1872
01:28:48,933 --> 01:28:51,133
Speaker 3: those social occasions. Do you feel a bit of anxiety

1873
01:28:51,133 --> 01:28:53,053
Speaker 3: that you're not drinking and yet your friends might be.

1874
01:28:53,213 --> 01:28:53,973
Speaker 3: Is that our hard to deal with?

1875
01:28:54,973 --> 01:28:58,093
Speaker 25: To be honest, it probably restrained from those situations at

1876
01:28:58,093 --> 01:29:00,652
Speaker 25: this point, Like I've seen for dinners and stuff, but

1877
01:29:00,692 --> 01:29:03,892
Speaker 25: I haven't put myself in a situation where I would

1878
01:29:04,013 --> 01:29:06,372
Speaker 25: normally be getting drunk.

1879
01:29:07,652 --> 01:29:09,692
Speaker 16: And that's about will be interesting.

1880
01:29:09,933 --> 01:29:11,933
Speaker 4: That can be the problem that you become situations.

1881
01:29:12,293 --> 01:29:14,692
Speaker 2: The problem is that you can become quite boring because

1882
01:29:14,853 --> 01:29:17,012
Speaker 2: if you're sober and other people are really steamed, that's

1883
01:29:17,133 --> 01:29:19,932
Speaker 2: quite confronting because all the right.

1884
01:29:19,853 --> 01:29:21,812
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean having two kids, I've been through a

1885
01:29:21,893 --> 01:29:24,293
Speaker 25: periods of nine months sobriety. So I have been through

1886
01:29:24,293 --> 01:29:27,692
Speaker 25: it and it is pretty punishing, but it's different. It's

1887
01:29:27,732 --> 01:29:30,133
Speaker 25: a different mindset when you're choosing to do it, rather

1888
01:29:30,173 --> 01:29:32,652
Speaker 25: than that you can't do it for physical reasons.

1889
01:29:32,812 --> 01:29:35,852
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, you've got a very good motivation to stay

1890
01:29:35,973 --> 01:29:37,572
Speaker 5: sober when you're pregnant, that's for sure.

1891
01:29:37,692 --> 01:29:37,892
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1892
01:29:38,893 --> 01:29:41,492
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call, Sarah, And yeah,

1893
01:29:41,973 --> 01:29:45,452
Speaker 2: I feel like checking back in after after I'll give.

1894
01:29:45,293 --> 01:29:47,412
Speaker 25: You a ring back and for months, you know, thet

1895
01:29:47,612 --> 01:29:48,532
Speaker 25: PA or just.

1896
01:29:48,452 --> 01:29:50,253
Speaker 5: Bring us when you, you know, fall off the wagon or

1897
01:29:50,253 --> 01:29:51,852
Speaker 5: whatever it is, get on the wagon. What it wanted

1898
01:29:51,933 --> 01:29:53,493
Speaker 5: is thanks Sarah.

1899
01:29:53,253 --> 01:29:55,372
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for your phone call. Oh one hundred

1900
01:29:55,492 --> 01:29:57,612
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Are we

1901
01:29:57,692 --> 01:30:00,732
Speaker 3: worry too much about how much we are drinking? And

1902
01:30:00,772 --> 01:30:02,772
Speaker 3: if you like Sarah that you've tried to give it

1903
01:30:02,772 --> 01:30:04,333
Speaker 3: a crack to give up entirely? How's it going?

1904
01:30:04,853 --> 01:30:07,973
Speaker 2: This is people texting this. I was drinking seven or

1905
01:30:07,973 --> 01:30:09,772
Speaker 2: eight ers the night for years and years. I haven't

1906
01:30:09,772 --> 01:30:11,452
Speaker 2: been drinking for a few months now. I don't feel

1907
01:30:11,452 --> 01:30:14,532
Speaker 2: exactly the same, no benefits, It's a classic.

1908
01:30:14,772 --> 01:30:17,412
Speaker 3: She your story. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1909
01:30:17,412 --> 01:30:19,452
Speaker 3: that able to call? Twenty three past.

1910
01:30:19,173 --> 01:30:26,812
Speaker 21: Three Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight

1911
01:30:26,893 --> 01:30:29,413
Speaker 21: hundred and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1912
01:30:30,013 --> 01:30:32,692
Speaker 3: News talks EDB. So are we worrying too much about

1913
01:30:32,692 --> 01:30:34,772
Speaker 3: how much we drink? It's an argument made by a

1914
01:30:34,893 --> 01:30:40,412
Speaker 3: longevity doctor's named Simon Fieldhass. He reckons moderate drinking can

1915
01:30:40,452 --> 01:30:43,173
Speaker 3: actually alleviate a lot of the fear that people are

1916
01:30:43,333 --> 01:30:45,732
Speaker 3: experiencing with all the anti alcohol messaging.

1917
01:30:46,133 --> 01:30:48,972
Speaker 2: Hey man, how are your friends responding to you not drinking,

1918
01:30:49,213 --> 01:30:52,372
Speaker 2: as they much peer prefect cheers John. I feel bad

1919
01:30:52,412 --> 01:30:55,293
Speaker 2: because it makes my friends feel uncomfortable that I'm not drinking.

1920
01:30:55,333 --> 01:30:57,932
Speaker 2: Them think because you know, I'm from such a big

1921
01:30:58,372 --> 01:31:02,772
Speaker 2: drinking culture and history and all my friends and the

1922
01:31:02,812 --> 01:31:05,213
Speaker 2: whole world I love, and it's quite drinking and me

1923
01:31:05,293 --> 01:31:09,133
Speaker 2: stopping drinking. It just makes them feel like they need

1924
01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:10,852
Speaker 2: to answer the question where they're drinking. And I just

1925
01:31:10,893 --> 01:31:12,692
Speaker 2: don't want that to be a situation. I don't want

1926
01:31:12,732 --> 01:31:14,812
Speaker 2: them to make feel bad because I'm doing something. I

1927
01:31:14,812 --> 01:31:16,253
Speaker 2: don't want them to feel like.

1928
01:31:16,612 --> 01:31:17,892
Speaker 5: They have to change what they're doing.

1929
01:31:17,893 --> 01:31:21,212
Speaker 2: And I definitely have no position to judge anyone because

1930
01:31:21,732 --> 01:31:25,813
Speaker 2: I've been drunken than anyone. I've behave worse than anyone

1931
01:31:25,973 --> 01:31:27,612
Speaker 2: you know in my friend groups, so I could ever

1932
01:31:27,692 --> 01:31:31,213
Speaker 2: judge them. But I just I think that's that's a promise.

1933
01:31:31,253 --> 01:31:33,652
Speaker 2: Is not so much that they apply peer pressure on me,

1934
01:31:33,692 --> 01:31:34,412
Speaker 2: although they do.

1935
01:31:34,452 --> 01:31:37,212
Speaker 5: Always go are you still not drinking?

1936
01:31:37,253 --> 01:31:37,532
Speaker 4: God?

1937
01:31:38,133 --> 01:31:40,652
Speaker 2: And I think they invite me to less stuff, But

1938
01:31:41,372 --> 01:31:43,293
Speaker 2: I feel I don't want to make them feel bad,

1939
01:31:43,333 --> 01:31:46,053
Speaker 2: so I'll order if I haven't, and I never tell

1940
01:31:46,053 --> 01:31:48,572
Speaker 2: people I'm not drinking, so I'll order a zero alcohol

1941
01:31:48,572 --> 01:31:49,333
Speaker 2: beia yep.

1942
01:31:49,333 --> 01:31:50,652
Speaker 5: Just so people feel comfortable.

1943
01:31:50,772 --> 01:31:52,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, makes it easy.

1944
01:31:51,812 --> 01:31:53,973
Speaker 5: Because because in our culture it's a lot to just

1945
01:31:53,973 --> 01:31:55,293
Speaker 5: sit there and not be drinking. Yeah.

1946
01:31:56,213 --> 01:31:57,772
Speaker 2: Maybe not in the whole culture of New Zealand, but

1947
01:31:57,812 --> 01:32:00,932
Speaker 2: in the culture of my friends, it's.

1948
01:32:00,772 --> 01:32:02,732
Speaker 3: A big thing in New Zealand's. Oh one hundred and

1949
01:32:02,732 --> 01:32:04,293
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Get a

1950
01:32:04,372 --> 01:32:10,572
Speaker 3: mic Hey, your mic Oh, Michael, he's.

1951
01:32:10,452 --> 01:32:12,532
Speaker 5: Been shut down with Nicky but big alcohol.

1952
01:32:12,652 --> 01:32:14,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to go hard on having a drink

1953
01:32:14,732 --> 01:32:16,692
Speaker 3: every day for decades.

1954
01:32:16,812 --> 01:32:19,253
Speaker 2: So if we can get Mike back, guys, realchho. I

1955
01:32:19,253 --> 01:32:21,093
Speaker 2: think a glass of wine in the evening is a

1956
01:32:21,133 --> 01:32:24,173
Speaker 2: stress anxiety reliever for a lot of people. What's worse

1957
01:32:24,293 --> 01:32:27,612
Speaker 2: a glass of wine or antidepressant drugs made by big Farmer.

1958
01:32:28,173 --> 01:32:29,532
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's one or the other, to

1959
01:32:29,572 --> 01:32:33,333
Speaker 3: be honest, I mean I get your point, but you know,

1960
01:32:33,412 --> 01:32:36,092
Speaker 3: would you make a glass of wine over some antidepressant drugs?

1961
01:32:36,333 --> 01:32:38,093
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be slamming the first when you're

1962
01:32:38,093 --> 01:32:39,213
Speaker 2: on the antidepressant team.

1963
01:32:39,372 --> 01:32:41,812
Speaker 3: No, it's a good point. Yeah, yeah, this big farmer

1964
01:32:41,893 --> 01:32:44,412
Speaker 3: like that. Probably not. I think we've got Mike back geo.

1965
01:32:44,492 --> 01:32:44,652
Speaker 9: Mike.

1966
01:32:46,013 --> 01:32:49,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, Hi, are you going to cut me off in

1967
01:32:49,133 --> 01:32:50,333
Speaker 20: two minutes for the news?

1968
01:32:50,812 --> 01:32:51,932
Speaker 3: No, you go for it, Mike.

1969
01:32:52,612 --> 01:32:53,492
Speaker 5: We would never do that to you.

1970
01:32:53,572 --> 01:32:53,772
Speaker 17: Mike.

1971
01:32:54,772 --> 01:33:00,532
Speaker 20: Look, I'm eighty four. I've always had a drink at

1972
01:33:00,572 --> 01:33:04,932
Speaker 20: the end of the day, and since I stopped having

1973
01:33:04,973 --> 01:33:09,173
Speaker 20: hangovers when I was much younger, and you know, drink

1974
01:33:09,213 --> 01:33:11,572
Speaker 20: too much at parties and so on, it's always been

1975
01:33:11,612 --> 01:33:16,492
Speaker 20: good for me. I've got kids who don't drink. They

1976
01:33:16,532 --> 01:33:21,492
Speaker 20: don't care if you drink or not, but just not drinking.

1977
01:33:22,293 --> 01:33:28,932
Speaker 20: I think that it's a fashion at the moment. It's

1978
01:33:28,973 --> 01:33:33,293
Speaker 20: always been good for me. I would rather die a

1979
01:33:33,293 --> 01:33:38,692
Speaker 20: bit younger than stop drinking. I can stop drinking. I

1980
01:33:38,772 --> 01:33:42,492
Speaker 20: can go for a week without drinking. But I don't

1981
01:33:42,572 --> 01:33:42,933
Speaker 20: want to.

1982
01:33:45,612 --> 01:33:49,892
Speaker 5: Sound You sound very healthy to me. You've got a deep, booming,

1983
01:33:49,933 --> 01:33:52,733
Speaker 5: powerful voice, like, Yeah.

1984
01:33:52,532 --> 01:33:54,532
Speaker 20: I am healthy for my age. I mean, I walk

1985
01:33:54,572 --> 01:33:57,973
Speaker 20: every day. I've always been pretty athletic. But well, I

1986
01:33:58,013 --> 01:34:02,213
Speaker 20: think it's courses for courses, and sure, you're probably better

1987
01:34:02,293 --> 01:34:08,532
Speaker 20: off not drinking. But human beings have always taken some

1988
01:34:08,652 --> 01:34:12,972
Speaker 20: sort of drugs. They have. It's a fact and it's

1989
01:34:13,053 --> 01:34:14,452
Speaker 20: not going to go away.

1990
01:34:15,452 --> 01:34:18,253
Speaker 2: Well, we've been drinking for a very long time, just

1991
01:34:18,253 --> 01:34:20,732
Speaker 2: just that particular drug. We've been big fans of it

1992
01:34:20,812 --> 01:34:24,173
Speaker 2: for for a very long time in society, and this

1993
01:34:24,293 --> 01:34:27,492
Speaker 2: incredibly complex society that we've built up has been built

1994
01:34:27,612 --> 01:34:28,692
Speaker 2: up whilst we've been drinking.

1995
01:34:28,812 --> 01:34:31,212
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it hasn't around everything.

1996
01:34:32,372 --> 01:34:35,893
Speaker 20: In medieval times, they used to drink beer because the

1997
01:34:36,213 --> 01:34:37,013
Speaker 20: rink great is.

1998
01:34:37,133 --> 01:34:38,333
Speaker 11: Killed or were dugs.

1999
01:34:39,293 --> 01:34:40,652
Speaker 20: It was just a way of life.

2000
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:43,173
Speaker 2: Well, kids were drinking it. You know, you'd have beer

2001
01:34:43,173 --> 01:34:45,333
Speaker 2: with breakfast just because they Yeah, because the water was

2002
01:34:45,532 --> 01:34:46,293
Speaker 2: safer than the water.

2003
01:34:47,452 --> 01:34:48,213
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2004
01:34:48,452 --> 01:34:51,932
Speaker 20: I think the doctor's right, the one who's saying we're

2005
01:34:52,173 --> 01:34:56,852
Speaker 20: all that worked half over. I mean, it's another point

2006
01:34:56,893 --> 01:34:58,892
Speaker 20: of view, in his point of view, and I think

2007
01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:03,213
Speaker 20: I think it has merit. Personally, I'd rather well, back

2008
01:35:03,213 --> 01:35:05,972
Speaker 20: in the day, I would have rather had a smoke

2009
01:35:06,013 --> 01:35:09,852
Speaker 20: of dope than alcohol because I've never got to hangover

2010
01:35:09,973 --> 01:35:14,732
Speaker 20: from that. But what I've vote for legalization, I don't know,

2011
01:35:15,013 --> 01:35:17,572
Speaker 20: because it's not good for if it gets when it

2012
01:35:17,612 --> 01:35:19,333
Speaker 20: gets into the school, you know.

2013
01:35:20,612 --> 01:35:23,732
Speaker 3: Not good for young brains. Yeah, Mike, I mean why

2014
01:35:23,732 --> 01:35:25,452
Speaker 3: do you think, because as you mentioned before, your kids

2015
01:35:25,452 --> 01:35:28,053
Speaker 3: don't drink, and you're quite right, there's the sales of

2016
01:35:28,093 --> 01:35:32,053
Speaker 3: alcohol is dropping off, and there seems to be that

2017
01:35:32,133 --> 01:35:34,372
Speaker 3: seems to be generating with the younger population. Why do

2018
01:35:34,412 --> 01:35:36,333
Speaker 3: you think that is? Do you think it is getting

2019
01:35:37,053 --> 01:35:39,732
Speaker 3: you know, water boarded with all this anti alcohol messaging.

2020
01:35:40,933 --> 01:35:43,972
Speaker 20: Yes, And like I said, I think it's the fashion.

2021
01:35:44,173 --> 01:35:49,892
Speaker 20: It's it's kind of woke at the moment to not drink.

2022
01:35:52,293 --> 01:35:54,692
Speaker 20: And I think they are listening to the message too,

2023
01:35:54,812 --> 01:35:59,452
Speaker 20: probably and probably they don't you know, in a social situation,

2024
01:35:59,612 --> 01:36:03,892
Speaker 20: they don't like I'm half extrovert, half introvert, and it

2025
01:36:04,013 --> 01:36:09,532
Speaker 20: helps me overcome my introverted the introverted part of my

2026
01:36:09,692 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 20: nature if I'm going into a social situation, you know,

2027
01:36:14,333 --> 01:36:17,652
Speaker 20: and probably brings out more of the extra bit, which

2028
01:36:17,732 --> 01:36:18,253
Speaker 20: I enjoy.

2029
01:36:18,572 --> 01:36:22,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael, Mike, Yeah, I mean that's the thing. I mean,

2030
01:36:23,452 --> 01:36:25,093
Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about this a couple of

2031
01:36:25,133 --> 01:36:27,732
Speaker 2: months ago. But it's one thing to give up drinking

2032
01:36:27,772 --> 01:36:30,452
Speaker 2: for your health whatever. But if as a young person

2033
01:36:30,492 --> 01:36:32,452
Speaker 2: you never leave the house now and so you're not

2034
01:36:32,492 --> 01:36:34,532
Speaker 2: socializing at all, and you're sitting in your own doom

2035
01:36:35,013 --> 01:36:40,572
Speaker 2: scrolling and playing video games and watching horrific adult material,

2036
01:36:40,652 --> 01:36:44,013
Speaker 2: then potentially the going out and drinking and socializing with

2037
01:36:44,053 --> 01:36:44,732
Speaker 2: people was better.

2038
01:36:44,853 --> 01:36:47,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, spot on. I one hundred eighty ten eighty. What

2039
01:36:47,333 --> 01:36:50,333
Speaker 3: do you say, are we becoming too worried about how

2040
01:36:50,412 --> 01:36:53,412
Speaker 3: much we're drinking? Nine two nine two is the text

2041
01:36:53,532 --> 01:36:56,372
Speaker 3: as well. And if you've been off booze recently share

2042
01:36:56,372 --> 01:36:58,452
Speaker 3: your story. I one hundred and eighty ten eighty set

2043
01:36:58,532 --> 01:36:59,612
Speaker 3: number to call.

2044
01:36:59,772 --> 01:37:01,652
Speaker 5: The kids are only off the booze because they're on

2045
01:37:01,692 --> 01:37:04,173
Speaker 5: the drugs, says this text. Okay, that's probably a bit

2046
01:37:04,173 --> 01:37:04,652
Speaker 5: of truth to that.

2047
01:37:04,692 --> 01:37:05,293
Speaker 3: Fair enough to.

2048
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Speaker 5: Us talk.

2049
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean. So we are talking

2072
01:38:34,173 --> 01:38:38,093
Speaker 3: about alcohol. This is Anthur, a opinion piece by longevity

2073
01:38:38,133 --> 01:38:42,012
Speaker 3: doctor Simon fieldhas. He makes the argument that we're worrying

2074
01:38:42,053 --> 01:38:44,452
Speaker 3: about how much we may or may not be drinking

2075
01:38:44,492 --> 01:38:46,932
Speaker 3: and that ends up being bad for our house health.

2076
01:38:46,973 --> 01:38:49,732
Speaker 3: So are we worrying too much about how much alcohol

2077
01:38:49,853 --> 01:38:50,253
Speaker 3: we drink?

2078
01:38:50,372 --> 01:38:54,053
Speaker 2: Well, Andrew Huban, the podcast has got a lot of

2079
01:38:54,053 --> 01:38:54,972
Speaker 2: people off alcohol.

2080
01:38:55,053 --> 01:38:59,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kate is actually on the line. Now

2081
01:39:00,173 --> 01:39:04,572
Speaker 3: get a Kates, How are you good? Yeah, got nice

2082
01:39:04,572 --> 01:39:07,012
Speaker 3: to chat with you. So you've been off drinking since

2083
01:39:07,053 --> 01:39:09,692
Speaker 3: the first of gen Yes, I.

2084
01:39:09,652 --> 01:39:12,973
Speaker 27: Have so myself and my husband was a little bit

2085
01:39:12,973 --> 01:39:17,492
Speaker 27: of a decision around mental health for my husband and

2086
01:39:17,532 --> 01:39:20,372
Speaker 27: we thought, yeah, start together, and I thought, oh my god,

2087
01:39:20,412 --> 01:39:24,532
Speaker 27: what I need to get some tools around me to

2088
01:39:24,532 --> 01:39:27,852
Speaker 27: actually make this variable. So yeah, I got on to

2089
01:39:27,973 --> 01:39:32,093
Speaker 27: Andrew Huberman and it was like the best podcast ever

2090
01:39:32,293 --> 01:39:35,613
Speaker 27: just in terms of for like, you know, what alcoholic

2091
01:39:35,692 --> 01:39:37,732
Speaker 27: she does to my body? But then I was like,

2092
01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:40,652
Speaker 27: oh and hearing others just talking about it on the radio,

2093
01:39:40,772 --> 01:39:44,253
Speaker 27: like social aspect and so a little bit of AI

2094
01:39:44,412 --> 01:39:50,412
Speaker 27: research recommended me for any Grace and it was all

2095
01:39:50,452 --> 01:39:53,973
Speaker 27: around how to like deal with social situations, and it

2096
01:39:54,133 --> 01:39:58,053
Speaker 27: just really reframed how I now go into things. And

2097
01:39:58,133 --> 01:40:01,652
Speaker 27: it's you know, for example, it's thinking, Okay, well, why

2098
01:40:01,652 --> 01:40:03,732
Speaker 27: am I not enjoying the setting? Would I enjoy it

2099
01:40:03,772 --> 01:40:07,013
Speaker 27: with alcohol? For example? And actually a lot of the

2100
01:40:07,053 --> 01:40:09,612
Speaker 27: time if you're not enjoying it because maybe you don't

2101
01:40:09,652 --> 01:40:11,972
Speaker 27: like it, you don't actually like the people, or maybe

2102
01:40:12,013 --> 01:40:16,413
Speaker 27: you're nervous or whatever it was that you replaced alcohol

2103
01:40:16,492 --> 01:40:19,932
Speaker 27: with in that situation. But yeah, so I've just been

2104
01:40:19,973 --> 01:40:23,612
Speaker 27: really enjoying not having alcohol for a while.

2105
01:40:24,652 --> 01:40:26,092
Speaker 5: How are you feeling. Are you feeling healthier?

2106
01:40:27,093 --> 01:40:32,253
Speaker 27: Oh? So much else here losing way, extasizing more like

2107
01:40:32,372 --> 01:40:38,772
Speaker 27: my skin is clear, made like thoughts are clear as well. Yeah,

2108
01:40:39,013 --> 01:40:41,372
Speaker 27: just kind of had a really good positive slow on effect.

2109
01:40:41,652 --> 01:40:44,973
Speaker 5: Are you feeling less sociable though? Is it is it

2110
01:40:45,013 --> 01:40:47,892
Speaker 5: harder to go out and do stuff? You're becoming a

2111
01:40:47,893 --> 01:40:49,732
Speaker 5: homebody because that that can happen.

2112
01:40:51,293 --> 01:40:55,133
Speaker 27: Actually, no, I'm doing more things, surprisingly because it's sort

2113
01:40:55,133 --> 01:41:00,372
Speaker 27: of having to look like different options and then like

2114
01:41:00,412 --> 01:41:02,772
Speaker 27: where I live, to the north of Aucklands, there's not

2115
01:41:02,812 --> 01:41:06,812
Speaker 27: many taxi options, so it's actually means that now there

2116
01:41:07,253 --> 01:41:09,013
Speaker 27: I've always got a sober, dry over, which is me

2117
01:41:09,572 --> 01:41:13,133
Speaker 27: so I can actually go out and do more things. Yeah,

2118
01:41:13,333 --> 01:41:16,812
Speaker 27: And I think that's we're having the books that I

2119
01:41:16,893 --> 01:41:20,652
Speaker 27: read around reframing my kind of mind and how I

2120
01:41:20,812 --> 01:41:23,852
Speaker 27: thought about going out. It's not around like they have

2121
01:41:23,933 --> 01:41:25,852
Speaker 27: to go out and not drink. It's around it's like, Okay,

2122
01:41:25,893 --> 01:41:27,812
Speaker 27: I'm catching up with friends.

2123
01:41:28,173 --> 01:41:30,013
Speaker 2: It makes things a lot easier if you could just

2124
01:41:30,093 --> 01:41:34,012
Speaker 2: drive there and back, and I mean that's so simple.

2125
01:41:34,053 --> 01:41:35,972
Speaker 2: And the other thing that I find with not drinking,

2126
01:41:36,572 --> 01:41:38,053
Speaker 2: is that you can go out for lunch and then

2127
01:41:38,213 --> 01:41:39,772
Speaker 2: with your friends on the weekend, and you can do

2128
01:41:40,013 --> 01:41:42,172
Speaker 2: drive home, and you can do something else in the afternoon.

2129
01:41:42,213 --> 01:41:44,253
Speaker 2: You're not completely captured by that one thing for the

2130
01:41:44,293 --> 01:41:47,572
Speaker 2: whole day. Well, good on you, Kate, and all the

2131
01:41:47,612 --> 01:41:48,213
Speaker 2: best with that.

2132
01:41:49,853 --> 01:41:51,933
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Thank you very much for giving us

2133
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:54,053
Speaker 3: a buzzz eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty You,

2134
01:41:54,173 --> 01:41:56,612
Speaker 3: like Kate, have you decided to try and quit alcohol?

2135
01:41:56,612 --> 01:41:58,852
Speaker 3: And how has it gone for you? If you want

2136
01:41:58,893 --> 01:42:01,732
Speaker 3: to send the text? Nine two ninety two is that number?

2137
01:42:02,133 --> 01:42:02,812
Speaker 5: This person says?

2138
01:42:02,853 --> 01:42:06,013
Speaker 2: I drink to keep the recycling people in business, to

2139
01:42:06,093 --> 01:42:09,213
Speaker 2: keep our local recycling click doesn't yeah?

2140
01:42:09,293 --> 01:42:09,652
Speaker 5: Tell you what?

2141
01:42:09,692 --> 01:42:11,772
Speaker 2: When you're not drinking as much, you certainly have more

2142
01:42:11,853 --> 01:42:14,612
Speaker 2: space than the big recycling bin. You do so much

2143
01:42:14,612 --> 01:42:15,972
Speaker 2: more space in there for other stuff.

2144
01:42:16,013 --> 01:42:18,213
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

2145
01:42:18,253 --> 01:42:20,892
Speaker 3: to call? Are we freaking out about how much alcohol

2146
01:42:20,933 --> 01:42:23,652
Speaker 3: we're drinking? And if you've given up, how's it going?

2147
01:42:23,772 --> 01:42:25,132
Speaker 3: It is twenty to four.

2148
01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:28,932
Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler with you as your afternoon rolls on.

2149
01:42:29,253 --> 01:42:32,572
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons with Skoda. Can you

2150
01:42:32,692 --> 01:42:33,372
Speaker 1: crack the code?

2151
01:42:33,412 --> 01:42:35,732
Speaker 12: Please go to codes every Day News Dogs.

2152
01:42:35,732 --> 01:42:38,772
Speaker 3: There'd be seventeen to four. So are we worrying too

2153
01:42:38,853 --> 01:42:41,692
Speaker 3: much about how much alcohol we're drinking? Oh, eight hundred

2154
01:42:41,692 --> 01:42:43,333
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call and

2155
01:42:43,412 --> 01:42:46,532
Speaker 3: nine two niney two is the text as well.

2156
01:42:46,732 --> 01:42:49,612
Speaker 2: The six says the only ALCOHOLI problem, The only alcohol

2157
01:42:49,652 --> 01:42:52,092
Speaker 2: problem I have is when I don't have alcohols is Alan?

2158
01:42:52,772 --> 01:42:55,092
Speaker 3: Good On? Yellen, Carl, welcome to the show.

2159
01:42:56,093 --> 01:42:57,293
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks, great to be here.

2160
01:42:57,853 --> 01:42:59,293
Speaker 3: Keen on your view, what do you think?

2161
01:43:00,452 --> 01:43:03,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I guess I'm just a little bit

2162
01:43:03,333 --> 01:43:06,812
Speaker 4: about my story. So I'm in my fifties, grown up

2163
01:43:06,853 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 4: in a country, in a neighborhood and a family that

2164
01:43:10,532 --> 01:43:13,812
Speaker 4: was you know, drinking alcohol was very normal. You know,

2165
01:43:13,973 --> 01:43:17,173
Speaker 4: it's very much part of the culture, playing rugby, part

2166
01:43:17,213 --> 01:43:19,732
Speaker 4: of the culture at the workplace, part of the culture.

2167
01:43:20,093 --> 01:43:21,532
Speaker 4: And I think it was mentioned in one of the

2168
01:43:21,532 --> 01:43:24,773
Speaker 4: earlier calls that you know, it is a part of

2169
01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:28,572
Speaker 4: the norm, you know, and I think drinking alcohol is

2170
01:43:28,853 --> 01:43:30,972
Speaker 4: it's something that's quite normal, you know, it's just it's

2171
01:43:30,973 --> 01:43:35,613
Speaker 4: being normalized and it's even made more accessible and normalized

2172
01:43:35,652 --> 01:43:38,013
Speaker 4: that you know, when you're taking a little one down

2173
01:43:38,053 --> 01:43:40,293
Speaker 4: to the supermarket. You know there's alcohol on the shellers.

2174
01:43:40,333 --> 01:43:41,652
Speaker 4: So you go around and you pick up your meat,

2175
01:43:41,652 --> 01:43:44,293
Speaker 4: your milk, your vegs, you pick up your bottle of wine,

2176
01:43:44,372 --> 01:43:46,772
Speaker 4: or you pick up your cans, or you drink as well,

2177
01:43:46,812 --> 01:43:50,133
Speaker 4: and it's become like normalized. And so from an early age,

2178
01:43:50,253 --> 01:43:53,412
Speaker 4: you know, it becomes a normalized behavior, and then you're

2179
01:43:53,412 --> 01:43:56,293
Speaker 4: out of these settings and it's just the normal way

2180
01:43:56,333 --> 01:43:58,532
Speaker 4: to do things. But what I just wanted to put

2181
01:43:58,532 --> 01:44:00,372
Speaker 4: a spin on is that I haven't been drinking for

2182
01:44:00,412 --> 01:44:02,333
Speaker 4: sixteen years. I haven't had a drink of alcohol for

2183
01:44:02,372 --> 01:44:04,612
Speaker 4: sixteen years. And when I did decide to give up,

2184
01:44:04,652 --> 01:44:07,892
Speaker 4: I thought, well, yeah, how am my mate's gonna how

2185
01:44:07,893 --> 01:44:09,093
Speaker 4: they're going to think of me? You know, what are

2186
01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:10,452
Speaker 4: they going to think about me? And it was all

2187
01:44:10,492 --> 01:44:13,012
Speaker 4: about you know, me fitting in and all that sort

2188
01:44:13,013 --> 01:44:15,692
Speaker 4: of stuff. But I then had to think about, well,

2189
01:44:15,732 --> 01:44:19,012
Speaker 4: what are all the implications that alcohol has had.

2190
01:44:18,853 --> 01:44:19,532
Speaker 12: On my life?

2191
01:44:19,612 --> 01:44:22,533
Speaker 4: And when I think back to all the dumb decisions,

2192
01:44:22,572 --> 01:44:25,012
Speaker 4: all the choices I've made, the things that I regret

2193
01:44:25,093 --> 01:44:28,893
Speaker 4: my life, alcohol was the number one common denominator and

2194
01:44:29,452 --> 01:44:31,892
Speaker 4: so that was an impact on my own personal life.

2195
01:44:31,893 --> 01:44:34,132
Speaker 4: But then I'm thinking, well, it didn't actually just impact

2196
01:44:34,133 --> 01:44:36,692
Speaker 4: on me. It actually impacted on the people around me.

2197
01:44:37,093 --> 01:44:40,372
Speaker 4: You know, my work, colleagues, my family, my friends, you

2198
01:44:40,412 --> 01:44:43,772
Speaker 4: know those decisions that I made under the influence of

2199
01:44:43,812 --> 01:44:46,692
Speaker 4: alcohol and other things that I regret, and that's where

2200
01:44:46,732 --> 01:44:49,933
Speaker 4: alcohol was there. So you know, so I've chosen not

2201
01:44:50,013 --> 01:44:54,093
Speaker 4: to take alcohol. You know, have alcohol now, and man,

2202
01:44:54,133 --> 01:44:56,093
Speaker 4: it's good waking up on every day of the week

2203
01:44:56,173 --> 01:44:57,692
Speaker 4: now and that you've got a full day ahead of

2204
01:44:57,772 --> 01:45:00,492
Speaker 4: year without any cloudiness, without any other stuff going on.

2205
01:45:00,692 --> 01:45:04,572
Speaker 2: Has it affected your soulation? Socialization? Can you still hang

2206
01:45:04,612 --> 01:45:05,732
Speaker 2: out with friends that are drinking?

2207
01:45:06,372 --> 01:45:09,852
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely so. My mate have been a team that's

2208
01:45:09,853 --> 01:45:13,892
Speaker 4: played touch rugby ever since we're being teenagers and still

2209
01:45:13,893 --> 01:45:17,213
Speaker 4: down there. I'm down the clubrooms afterwards, still socializing. All

2210
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:19,013
Speaker 4: the rest of it was actually me just it was

2211
01:45:19,053 --> 01:45:21,293
Speaker 4: actually in my own head that I had to work

2212
01:45:21,333 --> 01:45:23,852
Speaker 4: it out. It wasn't what they were necessarily thinking about me,

2213
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:26,333
Speaker 4: if that's what I was thinking. But no, there was

2214
01:45:26,492 --> 01:45:30,053
Speaker 4: still friends, still go to social engagement, still hang out.

2215
01:45:30,093 --> 01:45:32,333
Speaker 4: And the beauty thing now is that there's so many

2216
01:45:32,412 --> 01:45:34,652
Speaker 4: alcohol free sort of like drinks. Yes, sure, I'd used

2217
01:45:34,652 --> 01:45:35,973
Speaker 4: to be on a ginger beer, but now I'm on

2218
01:45:36,013 --> 01:45:36,612
Speaker 4: a zero bear.

2219
01:45:36,973 --> 01:45:37,813
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2220
01:45:37,973 --> 01:45:40,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny what you say about in the normalization

2221
01:45:40,053 --> 01:45:42,012
Speaker 2: of alcohols. Thinking about this the other day is actually

2222
01:45:42,013 --> 01:45:44,612
Speaker 2: having a chat with my son about it. And if

2223
01:45:44,652 --> 01:45:47,093
Speaker 2: alcohol didn't exist to this point, and I'm not into

2224
01:45:47,133 --> 01:45:51,612
Speaker 2: alcohol at all, I've been a pig drinker in my time.

2225
01:45:51,893 --> 01:45:54,333
Speaker 2: But if alcohol just suddenly appeared as a drug today,

2226
01:45:54,372 --> 01:45:56,532
Speaker 2: like it hadn't existed at all, and then it came

2227
01:45:56,532 --> 01:45:58,452
Speaker 2: out as a new drug. You hear about new drugs

2228
01:45:58,492 --> 01:46:01,613
Speaker 2: coming out, and if it just came out, the stories

2229
01:46:01,652 --> 01:46:07,333
Speaker 2: would be insane, people losing consciousness, people throwing up that

2230
01:46:07,412 --> 01:46:12,372
Speaker 2: the hangovers, every part about the violence, every part of alcohol.

2231
01:46:11,893 --> 01:46:13,932
Speaker 5: Would just be the biggest story that you ever had.

2232
01:46:13,973 --> 01:46:15,892
Speaker 5: But because it's grandfather did and we don't think about

2233
01:46:15,933 --> 01:46:19,053
Speaker 5: it at all, But if it we're from alcohol to

2234
01:46:19,333 --> 01:46:22,732
Speaker 5: alcohol now, it would be the biggest story in the world.

2235
01:46:22,933 --> 01:46:24,012
Speaker 3: Everyone would freak out.

2236
01:46:24,013 --> 01:46:25,293
Speaker 5: You see what's happening to people.

2237
01:46:25,532 --> 01:46:28,732
Speaker 2: You see they're going crazy, They're dancing on tables, they're

2238
01:46:28,772 --> 01:46:36,093
Speaker 2: running around, they're spewing, they're falling asleep in publicly.

2239
01:46:34,213 --> 01:46:36,812
Speaker 4: It's become normalized. But when we think about that. Not

2240
01:46:36,853 --> 01:46:39,972
Speaker 4: only is it the cost on ourselves individually or those

2241
01:46:40,013 --> 01:46:42,213
Speaker 4: around us, but look at the societal cost. It's head.

2242
01:46:42,732 --> 01:46:45,012
Speaker 4: I've been to a hospital to visit my nephew because

2243
01:46:45,053 --> 01:46:47,852
Speaker 4: he was written off. He was one of those people

2244
01:46:47,853 --> 01:46:51,412
Speaker 4: that was lucky to survive, you know, a binge on

2245
01:46:51,732 --> 01:46:53,532
Speaker 4: the booze and then getting beaten up and all the

2246
01:46:53,532 --> 01:46:55,733
Speaker 4: rest of it. And so when I look around our hospitals,

2247
01:46:55,772 --> 01:46:58,372
Speaker 4: I look around car accents, I look around all these

2248
01:46:58,372 --> 01:47:02,492
Speaker 4: other societal challenges. Alcohol is in there, and I don't

2249
01:47:02,492 --> 01:47:05,572
Speaker 4: know how cool that is. It's all normalized. We just

2250
01:47:05,933 --> 01:47:08,572
Speaker 4: accept it and tolerated. It's what we've always done. So

2251
01:47:09,412 --> 01:47:10,012
Speaker 4: she'll be right.

2252
01:47:11,452 --> 01:47:13,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I hear what you're saying, Cal,

2253
01:47:13,532 --> 01:47:15,812
Speaker 3: but is they're not part of you. Maybe you're different,

2254
01:47:15,853 --> 01:47:19,372
Speaker 3: But for me, some of the better relationships I've had

2255
01:47:19,412 --> 01:47:20,732
Speaker 3: in my life came from alcohol.

2256
01:47:20,812 --> 01:47:24,012
Speaker 2: Yes, Kelly says, this is a text from Cali carl

2257
01:47:24,692 --> 01:47:27,772
Speaker 2: our friends Scott Galloway. Professor Scott Galloway, we've talked about

2258
01:47:27,772 --> 01:47:29,372
Speaker 2: it in the show, makes the point that the lack

2259
01:47:29,412 --> 01:47:32,372
Speaker 2: of alcohol as a social lubricant is actually to the

2260
01:47:32,772 --> 01:47:35,852
Speaker 2: detriment of young people today. I'd rather my teens have

2261
01:47:35,893 --> 01:47:37,932
Speaker 2: a couple of beers and meet people rather than sitting

2262
01:47:37,933 --> 01:47:42,212
Speaker 2: indoors stressing about the world. So there is a positive

2263
01:47:42,253 --> 01:47:45,133
Speaker 2: side to it in that it gets.

2264
01:47:45,692 --> 01:47:47,452
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that because I've got plenty of

2265
01:47:47,452 --> 01:47:50,772
Speaker 4: friends who don't drink alcohol as well, and you know,

2266
01:47:50,812 --> 01:47:53,372
Speaker 4: and I've got friends that do drink alcohol. So again

2267
01:47:53,452 --> 01:47:55,412
Speaker 4: I think that's just an excuse that, oh I need

2268
01:47:55,452 --> 01:47:57,892
Speaker 4: alcohol to have a social life, hurrying, and that's nonsense.

2269
01:47:58,333 --> 01:47:59,652
Speaker 5: All right, thank you for your cool Carl.

2270
01:47:59,732 --> 01:48:01,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your cal Thank you very much of

2271
01:48:01,532 --> 01:48:04,173
Speaker 3: your phone call. Yo, Luanda, how are you on?

2272
01:48:04,333 --> 01:48:04,532
Speaker 16: Good?

2273
01:48:04,572 --> 01:48:04,892
Speaker 12: Thanks?

2274
01:48:04,893 --> 01:48:05,772
Speaker 4: How are you good?

2275
01:48:05,893 --> 01:48:06,893
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts?

2276
01:48:08,612 --> 01:48:12,412
Speaker 16: Well, I don't drink. And many years ago I was

2277
01:48:12,452 --> 01:48:15,372
Speaker 16: a groupie and was following this band when they were

2278
01:48:15,412 --> 01:48:19,612
Speaker 16: doing their gigs, and we went to at the time

2279
01:48:19,692 --> 01:48:24,652
Speaker 16: was a Cosmopolitan club in Evandell and I was orange,

2280
01:48:24,692 --> 01:48:28,293
Speaker 16: jute and water and this guy, Tommy, he asked his

2281
01:48:28,372 --> 01:48:30,492
Speaker 16: girlfriend if she wanted to dance yet. Now I don't

2282
01:48:30,492 --> 01:48:32,253
Speaker 16: want to dance, and so he asked me, and I

2283
01:48:32,293 --> 01:48:36,012
Speaker 16: think yeah, and we're dancing away for a long time. Anyway,

2284
01:48:36,612 --> 01:48:40,492
Speaker 16: we got off and he said to his girlfriend, she's

2285
01:48:40,612 --> 01:48:43,293
Speaker 16: one groovy trick and she knows how to dance and

2286
01:48:43,412 --> 01:48:47,293
Speaker 16: she doesn't even drink like this, and you know, you

2287
01:48:47,452 --> 01:48:49,852
Speaker 16: don't need to drink to have a good time. I

2288
01:48:49,853 --> 01:48:52,093
Speaker 16: think it's just all in the attitude, you know. If

2289
01:48:52,093 --> 01:48:54,013
Speaker 16: you want to have a good time, just go out

2290
01:48:54,013 --> 01:48:56,932
Speaker 16: and have a good time, you know. But we taught

2291
01:48:57,093 --> 01:49:00,092
Speaker 16: being called a groovy chick. That was like the highlight

2292
01:49:00,133 --> 01:49:00,812
Speaker 16: of the evening.

2293
01:49:00,933 --> 01:49:05,173
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, London, you sound like a groovy check

2294
01:49:05,293 --> 01:49:07,892
Speaker 3: But can you understand for those that may have been

2295
01:49:07,973 --> 01:49:10,173
Speaker 3: drinking and then they want to give it up that

2296
01:49:10,173 --> 01:49:14,412
Speaker 3: that's societal pressure or maybe even peer pressure from friends,

2297
01:49:14,812 --> 01:49:16,812
Speaker 3: or maybe they've got a bit of social anxiety in

2298
01:49:16,812 --> 01:49:20,012
Speaker 3: the first place. That you know, that's a hard hurdle

2299
01:49:20,053 --> 01:49:21,253
Speaker 3: to jump over for some people.

2300
01:49:21,612 --> 01:49:22,852
Speaker 16: Yeah, I guess so.

2301
01:49:23,812 --> 01:49:27,052
Speaker 11: You know, I get anxious when I'm in big crowds.

2302
01:49:27,133 --> 01:49:31,372
Speaker 11: I can't handle it. But for me, it's just like, well,

2303
01:49:31,412 --> 01:49:33,732
Speaker 11: if you don't do it, you're your own wist enemy,

2304
01:49:33,853 --> 01:49:36,892
Speaker 11: you know. So I try and break those barriers without

2305
01:49:37,293 --> 01:49:40,852
Speaker 11: you know, going to the extent of drinking or you know,

2306
01:49:41,253 --> 01:49:44,852
Speaker 11: smoaking the wacky becky or anything like that. It's just

2307
01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:47,972
Speaker 11: for me, it's just you know, yeah, I guess it's

2308
01:49:48,013 --> 01:49:50,013
Speaker 11: just me. My frame of mind is like, if I

2309
01:49:50,053 --> 01:49:51,572
Speaker 11: want to have a good time, I'll go out and

2310
01:49:51,612 --> 01:49:52,092
Speaker 11: I don't.

2311
01:49:51,893 --> 01:49:53,173
Speaker 16: Need to drink. They have a good time.

2312
01:49:53,253 --> 01:49:57,173
Speaker 3: So yeah, good on, Yolanda, thank you very much for

2313
01:49:57,173 --> 01:49:58,132
Speaker 3: giving us a call.

2314
01:49:58,452 --> 01:49:59,012
Speaker 5: The success.

2315
01:49:59,053 --> 01:50:01,692
Speaker 2: So Matt stops drinking. After spending a life with writing

2316
01:50:01,732 --> 01:50:04,532
Speaker 2: songs like Beers and constantly promoting alcohol with the acc

2317
01:50:04,772 --> 01:50:07,692
Speaker 2: and Hodaki his whole life promoting and showing off about

2318
01:50:07,692 --> 01:50:10,852
Speaker 2: alcohol on Alcoholic Life, now he changes and he's all

2319
01:50:10,893 --> 01:50:12,093
Speaker 2: anti alcohol.

2320
01:50:11,973 --> 01:50:14,652
Speaker 3: Hypocrite much what I think you're anti alcohol?

2321
01:50:14,732 --> 01:50:15,293
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not.

2322
01:50:15,412 --> 01:50:17,293
Speaker 2: I just said that I've stopped drinking and they have

2323
01:50:17,372 --> 01:50:19,772
Speaker 2: for the last year. And my partner says it's mainly

2324
01:50:19,933 --> 01:50:20,973
Speaker 2: to be stubborn.

2325
01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:22,173
Speaker 5: To prove to her because I said I would that

2326
01:50:22,173 --> 01:50:24,293
Speaker 5: I would keep doing it and she didn't think I'd

2327
01:50:24,293 --> 01:50:24,692
Speaker 5: be able to.

2328
01:50:25,013 --> 01:50:29,093
Speaker 2: But no, I'm not anti alcohol at all. But it

2329
01:50:29,133 --> 01:50:31,213
Speaker 2: is interesting, it's interesting to discuss. It's a different life

2330
01:50:31,293 --> 01:50:32,973
Speaker 2: not drinking, that's for sure. You have to learn how

2331
01:50:32,973 --> 01:50:36,532
Speaker 2: to socialize in a different way, and there are challenges

2332
01:50:36,572 --> 01:50:38,492
Speaker 2: to it. So there's a good and bad and there's

2333
01:50:38,532 --> 01:50:40,972
Speaker 2: this doctor that you've brought up this article you've brought in.

2334
01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:45,732
Speaker 2: Tyler has said, you know, he's arguing that a drink

2335
01:50:45,812 --> 01:50:49,133
Speaker 2: or two is good for stress, exactly as this person said.

2336
01:50:49,133 --> 01:50:50,253
Speaker 2: We used to be told the eggs were bad. Now

2337
01:50:50,293 --> 01:50:50,892
Speaker 2: we're told they're good.

2338
01:50:50,933 --> 01:50:53,812
Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, it's spot on right. Nine two

2339
01:50:53,933 --> 01:50:56,093
Speaker 3: ninety two is their text number. We'll get to a

2340
01:50:56,093 --> 01:50:59,532
Speaker 3: few of those very shortly. It is nine minutes to four.

2341
01:51:01,213 --> 01:51:04,692
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2342
01:51:04,933 --> 01:51:10,052
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons Excused TALKSB.

2343
01:51:09,973 --> 01:51:10,692
Speaker 3: News TALKSB.

2344
01:51:10,772 --> 01:51:13,652
Speaker 2: It's five to four, just some text to finish up

2345
01:51:13,652 --> 01:51:15,772
Speaker 2: on the alcohol topic. Jesus turned water into wine, so

2346
01:51:15,772 --> 01:51:18,452
Speaker 2: it's good enough for me if it's good enough for him.

2347
01:51:18,732 --> 01:51:21,013
Speaker 2: I don't need running shoes to run either, but it

2348
01:51:21,053 --> 01:51:23,293
Speaker 2: certainly helps. From Shane, that's a good point, great point.

2349
01:51:23,333 --> 01:51:25,972
Speaker 2: But it's alcohol and social lubrication. Hi, guys, of alcohol,

2350
01:51:25,973 --> 01:51:27,812
Speaker 2: we're in hues today. You would not even be able

2351
01:51:27,812 --> 01:51:30,133
Speaker 2: to get it through prescription. Forty years ago, twenty five

2352
01:51:30,173 --> 01:51:33,693
Speaker 2: percent of hossible bears with patients with alcohol related.

2353
01:51:33,333 --> 01:51:34,372
Speaker 5: Diseases in it.

2354
01:51:34,492 --> 01:51:37,812
Speaker 2: Hey, boys, I would ask about the societal costs of

2355
01:51:38,732 --> 01:51:42,293
Speaker 2: not drinking alcohol, population would drop. And the six is

2356
01:51:42,333 --> 01:51:44,612
Speaker 2: how would we meet our wives if we didn't have alcohol?

2357
01:51:44,652 --> 01:51:47,372
Speaker 2: That's right, I met my lovely partner at a bar. Yeah,

2358
01:51:47,412 --> 01:51:49,412
Speaker 2: I was the same, So I can thank alcohol for that.

2359
01:51:50,053 --> 01:51:52,492
Speaker 2: Howt That brings us to the end of the show.

2360
01:51:52,532 --> 01:51:55,013
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening, and special thanks to

2361
01:51:55,013 --> 01:51:57,133
Speaker 2: all of you that joined the conversation on eight hundred

2362
01:51:57,133 --> 01:52:00,253
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty loved all our chats with you.

2363
01:52:00,812 --> 01:52:04,253
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow live from twelve pm. The Great

2364
01:52:04,253 --> 01:52:07,213
Speaker 2: and Powerful Heather Duples see Allen is up next. But

2365
01:52:07,412 --> 01:52:10,892
Speaker 2: right now, Tyler, why am I only just starting playing

2366
01:52:10,893 --> 01:52:11,572
Speaker 2: the song now?

2367
01:52:12,253 --> 01:52:17,253
Speaker 3: And who is the Stones angry? Because we had a

2368
01:52:17,293 --> 01:52:20,293
Speaker 3: great discussion about all the angry drivers on our road

2369
01:52:20,333 --> 01:52:22,133
Speaker 3: and don't never use your horn and anger?

2370
01:52:22,412 --> 01:52:23,053
Speaker 12: Yeah, there you go.

2371
01:52:23,492 --> 01:52:27,452
Speaker 2: Great song from the twenty twenty three album Hackney Diamonds.

2372
01:52:27,772 --> 01:52:32,293
Speaker 5: All right until tomorrow afternoon, give a taste of keyw

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