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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from News Talks a Day Us.

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Speaker 2: A house says a hole even when it's does, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown.

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Speaker 3: In the yard, even when the dog is too old

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Speaker 3: to barn, and.

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Speaker 2: When you're sitting at the table trying not to start

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Speaker 2: house scissor hole.

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Speaker 4: Even when you're a band gone, even when you're there alone,

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Speaker 4: he's a house is a.

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Speaker 2: Home, even when those ghost even when you got around

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Speaker 2: from the world you love your most screamed, those broken

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Speaker 2: prints feeling from the wood locals bastball when they're going.

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Speaker 5: To leave in the neighbor of the house.

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Speaker 2: Is a home, even when we band go, Even when

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Speaker 2: you're there alone, he's.

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Speaker 6: A ah hang on, no, no, no, heaven. How about that? Sorry, folks,

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Speaker 6: let me start again. My mistake, rightio? Actually, yeah, there

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Speaker 6: we go, rightio. Sorry about that technical mistake on my part.

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Speaker 6: The fader was down there you go. Hey, good morning,

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Speaker 6: Welcome along to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp.

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Speaker 6: This is the Resident Builder on Sunday, and we are

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Speaker 6: into a couple of hours of open line conversation about

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Speaker 6: all things building and construction. So if you've got some

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Speaker 6: questions of a building nature, you should call me right now. Inevitably,

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Speaker 6: as I mentioned a few times, we do get a

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Speaker 6: little bit busy later on the show and don't always

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Speaker 6: get to all of the callers. So if you've got

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Speaker 6: a question and you're up and about, maybe you've already

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Speaker 6: had the toast and the tea and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 6: or perhaps you just tucked up still in bed. It

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Speaker 6: is kind of the middle of winter, doesn't It feels

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Speaker 6: reasonably sort of settled in this part of the country

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Speaker 6: at the moment. But if you're up at about and

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Speaker 6: you're listening to the show and you think, yee, I

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Speaker 6: wish I knew kind of what to do about. You know,

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Speaker 6: someone who's text me before when it rains a little

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Speaker 6: area just by the back door that gets wet right

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Speaker 6: is coming up through the slab. What do I do

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Speaker 6: about that? Or another email that I got during the

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Speaker 6: course of the week, it was someone who's going, hey, look,

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Speaker 6: I was told that I didn't need a building consent

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Speaker 6: for this particular type of work. Turns out I did.

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Speaker 6: What can I do about it?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 6: I have to say on that matter. It's been sort

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Speaker 6: of a project of mine for the last little while

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Speaker 6: to try and get a building consent that was issued

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Speaker 6: in two thousand and two. The work was completed, the

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Speaker 6: person lived in the house. They went for a final

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Speaker 6: inspection in two thousand and twelve found that there was

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Speaker 6: some work that was not properly done that required more work,

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Speaker 6: which required a new building consent that got done, That

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Speaker 6: consent got signed off. Excuse me, my client got me

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Speaker 6: to do some work on that house almost ten years ago,

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Speaker 6: which got a building consent. Well, had a building consent

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Speaker 6: and got signed off and a CCC was issued. But

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Speaker 6: then a couple of years ago it was found that hey,

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Speaker 6: actually that other earlier consent never got signed off. We've

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Speaker 6: that has been quite the process. And it wasn't just

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Speaker 6: should have got signed off. There was inspections, there's been meetings,

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Speaker 6: there's been the engagement of building surveyors to do essentially

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Speaker 6: a performance review of the exterior cladding to satisfy council

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Speaker 6: that it's going to that's going to perform and that

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Speaker 6: they can feel comfortable about issuing a CCC for that

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Speaker 6: very early consent, which means that when someone looks at

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Speaker 6: see that every consent that was issued, every building consent

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Speaker 6: with a CCC. These things take a bit of time,

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Speaker 6: so that that text that came through, with that email

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Speaker 6: consent might actually be quite a process. We'll get into

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Speaker 6: at your place? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 6: It could be about, you know, the actual practicalities of

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Speaker 5: And there's some.

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Speaker 6: Pretty well pretty significant changes. Something that's been talked about.

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Speaker 6: honorable Chris Pink, who's been a guest on this show

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Speaker 6: a couple of times, came into the studio a few

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Speaker 6: months ago. One of the things that was floated very

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Speaker 6: early on is, hey, look i've been told or feedback

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Speaker 6: from the industry is that the recent changes to H

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Speaker 6: one of the Building Code, which is what sets the

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Speaker 6: a couple of notches right to make our buildings more

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Speaker 6: energy efficient, to make them warmer basically, or to upgrade

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Speaker 6: the amount of insulation. That came into effect in November

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Speaker 6: a year later that the incoming government goes, oh, well, look,

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Speaker 6: the feedback from the sector has been that the insulation

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Speaker 6: standards are too high. They've added significant costs to buildings.

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Speaker 6: We should look at winding that. And that was kind

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Speaker 6: of the first one of the first announcements. Look, we're

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Speaker 6: going to look at this. We've been told it adds

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Speaker 6: fifty thousand dollars to the cost of a new build

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Speaker 6: We're going to save you fifty thousand dollars by winding

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Speaker 6: back h one fascinating debate. We've talked about it a

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Speaker 6: period of time, consultation, and finally, as in this week,

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Speaker 6: decision has been made. And the decision and I have

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Speaker 6: been much shouting at televisions, radios, stomping of feet, banging

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Speaker 6: the way in which it's been presented, and so often

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Speaker 6: the reporting will be along lines of insulation standards are

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Speaker 6: going to be reduced, right, which is not actually true.

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Speaker 6: Insallation standards, the actual performance criteria for the house are

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Speaker 6: not changing. The way in which you get to the

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Speaker 6: It means that you can go to the code and

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Speaker 6: I'm going to end up with six point six in

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Speaker 6: in the Cargol to Kaitaire, everywhere in the country. If

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Speaker 6: you use the schedule method six point six. To be fair,

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Speaker 6: seems like the decision is we're going to discard that

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Speaker 6: in favor of two other pathways to compliance, one of

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Speaker 6: which is calculation method. The other is the modeling method.

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Speaker 6: Happy to talk about this, I think it's really important,

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Speaker 6: but I do want to state that this is not

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Speaker 6: a reduction in the insulation standards. It's just a better,

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Speaker 6: more nuanced way of actually figuring out what's going on

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Speaker 6: I mentioned another little project that I've been involved in,

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Speaker 6: which is looking at the heating requirements for healthy home

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Speaker 6: standards for in this case an apartment, so an inner

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Speaker 6: single glazing, its concrete construction, etc. But the people who

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Speaker 6: had a healthy Homes assessment done by someone, and in fact,

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Speaker 6: which isn't massive, right, and it's in an apartment, and

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Speaker 6: it was more than two point four kilowatts and it

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Speaker 6: wasn't a heat pump. They had fixed in panel heaters,

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Speaker 6: very good quality panel heaters, but they don't comply because

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Speaker 6: if you have a heating requirement over two point four,

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Speaker 6: it must be a heat pump. So then someone else

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Speaker 6: did a heating assessment on it. Their results, and again

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Speaker 6: very good company last night said that the heating requirement

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Speaker 6: Let's say, so I haven't submitted this. I just used

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Speaker 6: up with a number. Well, it just raises so many questions.

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Speaker 6: One is, how do two people assessing exactly the same

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Speaker 6: And then how do I come up with a number

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Speaker 6: that's even less than that looking at a real world example,

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Speaker 6: how does this building actually perform? And then having it

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Speaker 6: considerably less. Again, we can talk about that as well.

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Speaker 6: And then, oh, I got to tell you about this

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Speaker 6: I'm about to buy a house.

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Speaker 5: I said, what do you mean? I don't know him?

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Speaker 6: You just I don't know. To be fair, I don't

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Speaker 6: even know who he got my number. He listens to

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Speaker 6: the show and somehow you got my number. Good on you,

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Speaker 6: and he goes the auctions later on today. Can you

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Speaker 6: tell me anything about it as it happens? I could,

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Speaker 6: And the only reason I could is because I know

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Speaker 6: the guy who is the general manager for Razine Construction

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Speaker 6: him and go, here's the address. What do you know

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Speaker 6: Radio folks, thank you very much for listening. Let's get

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Speaker 6: We got that sorted. I've got some technical ability. It

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Speaker 6: We've got some lines free eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 6: There is lots to talk.

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Speaker 7: USA.

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Speaker 6: I'm slightly baffled by this text. To be fair, we'll

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Speaker 6: why there's a schedule method, Peter, I'm not sure what

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Speaker 6: me a call, that'd be great. Other texts from Owen

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Speaker 6: good to hear the minister listened, if not keeping everyone happy.

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Speaker 6: What I want to know is why any government thinks

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Speaker 6: follow the money and the man not to a dissolved company. Look,

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Speaker 6: A guy who's a lawyer who's kind of a mate

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Speaker 9: You enjoy your program, Thank you, thanks for calling. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I've moved a house. It's all been consented by the

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Speaker 9: to just change the plumbing plan around a little bit.

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Speaker 9: I had another toilet and just move the tub and

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Speaker 9: stuff like that. There's a layout of the plumbing and

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Speaker 9: then all that sort of carry on. I'd sort of

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't suggest so the changes that you're proposing to

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Speaker 6: fittings that are shown on the existing building consent. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 6: that triggers the requirement for a building consent in itself.

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Speaker 6: So given that you've already got one and it's active,

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Speaker 6: I doubt your plumber is. So go back to the

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Speaker 6: pipework for the new sanitary fittings, and then submit that

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Speaker 6: as a minor variation. Now, the council might not accept

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Speaker 6: becomes an amendment to the consent That might take some

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Speaker 6: often be just processed on site, so they, you know,

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Speaker 6: that we're here and we've seen how it all works,

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Speaker 6: we'd like to make this change. Here's some documentation for it.

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Speaker 6: So if you've got the plan there straight away, here's

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Speaker 6: the updated plan. They'll look at it, they can stamp it,

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Speaker 6: doing it later is to be blunt recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, good advice to do it now.

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Speaker 6: I know it's a bit of affair, but do it now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, good advice. I've got the drafts from that's

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Speaker 9: get him to modify it, and a minor variation.

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Speaker 6: And look it's not too different to you know, people

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Speaker 6: all of those reasons. And you guys have obviously now

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Speaker 10: But do it now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? The only thing is that I want to put

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Speaker 9: There's a door between them. Is there any other problems

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Speaker 6: Do you think you might have to just check? For

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Speaker 6: know if that's still the case, but often that was

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Speaker 6: that should work. Okay, but yeah, do it now, do

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Speaker 6: it now, buddy, all the best, Okay, take care of

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Speaker 6: Thank you. See Steve your News talks. He be Pete

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Speaker 6: He be coming up six thirty Colin, Good morning.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Peter.

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Speaker 7: How are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm very well, Thank you Colin yourself.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'll run out of doubt one day. Next seat,

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Speaker 12: I've got someone to come and chick my root before

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Speaker 6: Yes, so it's just just for listeners, is it a

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Speaker 12: In the kitchen, Teter, I have got some crack in

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Speaker 13: I don't know why.

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Speaker 12: It's like it's since I've been in the place, but

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Speaker 12: I've got to get half a dozen middle spot and

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Speaker 12: there's little cracks through the paint. Isn't because the way

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Speaker 6: Be a combination of things. So one, most likely it's

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Speaker 6: The other thing might be is if you've got not

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Speaker 12: I've hit the guy out once and he set the

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Speaker 12: it just puzzles me why it's got so many little

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Speaker 9: In and do it.

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Speaker 12: But I'm going to get this job done too.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 6: I think often what happens is people go, oh, I'm

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Speaker 6: I wonder why that's peeling off. Well, because you haven't

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I was actually I'm going to get a tradem

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Speaker 6: Perfect, okay, but again make sure you say to them,

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Speaker 6: If it's already in for consent, get the consent and

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Speaker 6: They're doing the work on it. It's got a building

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Speaker 6: me right now. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 6: Just with regard to Colin talking about you know what

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Speaker 6: has suggested that painting an enamel over and acrylic may

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Speaker 6: you very much for that. Oh yeah, it is quite

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00:34:06,455 --> 00:34:12,055
Speaker 6: And I made the comment about legislation or rules building

433
00:34:12,095 --> 00:34:14,975
Speaker 6: code rules around whether or not you needed more than

434
00:34:15,135 --> 00:34:18,335
Speaker 6: one door between a toilet and the kitchen. It's just

435
00:34:18,455 --> 00:34:21,375
Speaker 6: it's one of those old rules that sort of floated around. Anyway,

436
00:34:21,415 --> 00:34:24,295
Speaker 6: someone steps through, Hey, where can I send you a pack? Well,

437
00:34:24,295 --> 00:34:25,415
Speaker 6: if you want to send a pick, you have to

438
00:34:25,455 --> 00:34:27,855
Speaker 6: email it to me. That's Pete at Newstalk SB dot

439
00:34:27,935 --> 00:34:33,175
Speaker 6: co dot nz. And one. We have one bathroom in

440
00:34:33,215 --> 00:34:35,575
Speaker 6: our house. It's literally seven steps away from the kitchen

441
00:34:35,655 --> 00:34:39,135
Speaker 6: bench and there is only one door. I'm just trying

442
00:34:39,135 --> 00:34:40,575
Speaker 6: to think about my own house. And we got some

443
00:34:40,655 --> 00:34:43,575
Speaker 6: doors into the hallway which are typically always open, and

444
00:34:43,655 --> 00:34:45,975
Speaker 6: then one door to the bathroom which is off the hallway.

445
00:34:46,015 --> 00:34:50,295
Speaker 6: Typical old villa. So if the doors are open, which

446
00:34:50,335 --> 00:34:52,495
Speaker 6: they are most of the time, and it's only one

447
00:34:53,815 --> 00:34:56,615
Speaker 6: one door between the kitchen, maybe it's a distance thing

448
00:34:56,655 --> 00:34:59,335
Speaker 6: as well. It just it stuck with me. I remember

449
00:34:59,615 --> 00:35:02,815
Speaker 6: discussing it. To be fair, it could have been twenty

450
00:35:02,935 --> 00:35:06,655
Speaker 6: or thirty years ago, but anyway, right and someone through.

451
00:35:06,695 --> 00:35:09,615
Speaker 6: I get this all the time, this hilarious song so depressing.

452
00:35:10,415 --> 00:35:12,535
Speaker 6: It really gets a bad start to the show. I

453
00:35:12,655 --> 00:35:16,495
Speaker 6: tell you what, in kindness, I'll say this I did

454
00:35:16,655 --> 00:35:18,655
Speaker 6: last year on the anniversary of the show decided to

455
00:35:18,735 --> 00:35:21,135
Speaker 6: change the song, and I came up with something else,

456
00:35:21,295 --> 00:35:23,815
Speaker 6: and then everyone texted and went, we like the song,

457
00:35:23,935 --> 00:35:27,295
Speaker 6: We'd like the song back please, So oh, eight hundred

458
00:35:27,295 --> 00:35:29,655
Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. New

459
00:35:29,735 --> 00:35:32,255
Speaker 6: text has just come in morning, Pete. What happens if

460
00:35:32,295 --> 00:35:35,615
Speaker 6: the council has no limb or any other records of

461
00:35:35,695 --> 00:35:40,215
Speaker 6: our house? Is there anywhere else to find information for consents,

462
00:35:40,375 --> 00:35:43,255
Speaker 6: et cetera. We recently bought a house in the Rangutiki

463
00:35:43,335 --> 00:35:46,615
Speaker 6: district and council and they say that they had a

464
00:35:46,695 --> 00:35:49,455
Speaker 6: fire sometime ago and all of the records were lost.

465
00:35:49,975 --> 00:35:53,495
Speaker 6: Apparently it's a common thing. I tell you, what's a

466
00:35:53,535 --> 00:35:57,215
Speaker 6: common thing. And I'm amazed that there are any records left.

467
00:35:57,535 --> 00:36:00,655
Speaker 6: But I have heard we had a fire and all

468
00:36:00,695 --> 00:36:04,855
Speaker 6: the records were lost. I was going to say hundreds

469
00:36:04,855 --> 00:36:07,855
Speaker 6: of times. No, not hundreds of times, but I've heard

470
00:36:07,935 --> 00:36:12,815
Speaker 6: it from almost every single council in the country over

471
00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:18,175
Speaker 6: the last umpteen years. We had a fire and all

472
00:36:18,215 --> 00:36:21,975
Speaker 6: the records were lost. I've heard that over and over

473
00:36:22,175 --> 00:36:25,215
Speaker 6: and over again. I don't think that council buildings are

474
00:36:25,295 --> 00:36:28,615
Speaker 6: that likely to burn down and destroy all of the

475
00:36:29,055 --> 00:36:32,535
Speaker 6: council records for building consents and building permits and all

476
00:36:32,575 --> 00:36:33,055
Speaker 6: the rest of it.

477
00:36:34,455 --> 00:36:34,855
Speaker 8: I think that.

478
00:36:34,935 --> 00:36:38,095
Speaker 6: Councils just lose stuff. So look, in the event that

479
00:36:38,335 --> 00:36:41,295
Speaker 6: council don't have anything on the limb, you could ask

480
00:36:41,455 --> 00:36:44,455
Speaker 6: for the property file, which is slightly different to the limb,

481
00:36:46,055 --> 00:36:48,775
Speaker 6: and that literally is anything that they've got on file

482
00:36:48,895 --> 00:36:52,735
Speaker 6: about the building. But it is also not uncommon for

483
00:36:52,895 --> 00:36:58,495
Speaker 6: older buildings that there are simply no records. And I've

484
00:36:58,535 --> 00:37:02,575
Speaker 6: had exactly the same. I requested the property file for

485
00:37:02,975 --> 00:37:07,335
Speaker 6: a property m and I did it online, paid my money.

486
00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:09,535
Speaker 6: It was like seventy six dollars or something like that,

487
00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:12,095
Speaker 6: paid for it, and about two or three days later,

488
00:37:12,135 --> 00:37:15,655
Speaker 6: I got a phone call from someone working at that

489
00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:18,975
Speaker 6: particular council saying, hey, look, we know that you've made

490
00:37:19,015 --> 00:37:22,655
Speaker 6: this request, but to be fair, we've got nothing. We

491
00:37:22,815 --> 00:37:26,735
Speaker 6: got nothing, so you know, send us an email and

492
00:37:26,855 --> 00:37:28,095
Speaker 6: we'll refund your money.

493
00:37:30,455 --> 00:37:30,815
Speaker 9: There you go.

494
00:37:31,215 --> 00:37:33,535
Speaker 6: Oh eight one hundred and eighty eighty is the number

495
00:37:33,575 --> 00:37:39,015
Speaker 6: to call. Call seems to have dropped off. That's right.

496
00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:42,415
Speaker 6: If you've got a question about building or about building

497
00:37:42,535 --> 00:37:47,215
Speaker 6: consents and rules regulations, and I am quite keen to

498
00:37:47,295 --> 00:37:51,655
Speaker 6: discuss the whole Heating Assessment tool thing, just based on

499
00:37:52,735 --> 00:37:56,855
Speaker 6: my own experience of using it recently and then looking

500
00:37:57,055 --> 00:38:00,775
Speaker 6: at and I've got them up on my laptop A.

501
00:38:02,335 --> 00:38:04,295
Speaker 6: This is all part of the Healthy Home Standards right,

502
00:38:04,375 --> 00:38:08,375
Speaker 6: So as a landlord, now there's no more time to

503
00:38:08,495 --> 00:38:11,455
Speaker 6: get yourself sought in terms of complying with Healthy Home standards.

504
00:38:11,855 --> 00:38:14,575
Speaker 6: As of the first of July, so six days ago,

505
00:38:15,735 --> 00:38:22,895
Speaker 6: all New Zealand residential rental properties must have a must

506
00:38:22,935 --> 00:38:25,855
Speaker 6: be Healthy Homes compliant right. There are no more exceptions,

507
00:38:25,895 --> 00:38:28,295
Speaker 6: there's no more delays, there's no more I'll get round

508
00:38:28,335 --> 00:38:31,455
Speaker 6: to it tomorrow. It's all just got to happen. And

509
00:38:31,935 --> 00:38:36,815
Speaker 6: so everyone who has a residential rental property will need

510
00:38:36,895 --> 00:38:40,975
Speaker 6: to do a heating assessment to prove that the building

511
00:38:41,135 --> 00:38:44,175
Speaker 6: can get to twenty degrees on the coldest day of

512
00:38:44,215 --> 00:38:47,055
Speaker 6: the year, and that varies across the country depending on

513
00:38:47,095 --> 00:38:50,055
Speaker 6: what climatic zone you're in. And then obviously what it

514
00:38:50,175 --> 00:38:52,455
Speaker 6: takes to get to twenty degrees in terms of this

515
00:38:53,175 --> 00:38:58,215
Speaker 6: calculation depends on what the building is made of. Is

516
00:38:58,255 --> 00:39:01,015
Speaker 6: there are lots of insulation, not much insulation, et cetera, etc.

517
00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:03,735
Speaker 6: And so you use the tool. It's the government's tool.

518
00:39:03,775 --> 00:39:07,255
Speaker 6: It's on the Tendency Services website. Use the tool, you

519
00:39:07,455 --> 00:39:09,255
Speaker 6: enter in the data and it spits out a number.

520
00:39:10,455 --> 00:39:13,415
Speaker 6: So one report, this is bearing in mind, this is

521
00:39:13,495 --> 00:39:16,575
Speaker 6: exactly the same building right that we're looking at here.

522
00:39:17,455 --> 00:39:20,095
Speaker 6: One report and I'm reading it right now, ends up

523
00:39:20,175 --> 00:39:28,055
Speaker 6: with a heating recommendation of so the building you require

524
00:39:28,215 --> 00:39:31,615
Speaker 6: four point five kilowats of heating capacity to heat the

525
00:39:31,695 --> 00:39:36,255
Speaker 6: living room. Heating needs to provide this heating capacity with

526
00:39:36,295 --> 00:39:38,735
Speaker 6: an outdoor temperature of one degree. So that's the assumption

527
00:39:39,175 --> 00:39:42,495
Speaker 6: in Auckland that it might be one degree outside. When

528
00:39:42,535 --> 00:39:44,375
Speaker 6: it's one degree outside, you've got to be able to

529
00:39:44,415 --> 00:39:46,895
Speaker 6: get that room to twenty degrees. And in order to

530
00:39:47,055 --> 00:39:50,735
Speaker 6: do that, you've got to have four point five kilowatts

531
00:39:51,415 --> 00:39:55,895
Speaker 6: of heating. Then, exactly the same building, another report done

532
00:39:55,935 --> 00:39:58,895
Speaker 6: by another assessor generates a number that says you need

533
00:39:59,375 --> 00:40:05,255
Speaker 6: three killowats of heating. Is quite a bit different. Then

534
00:40:05,295 --> 00:40:08,295
Speaker 6: I did calculations based on how I think the building

535
00:40:08,335 --> 00:40:11,335
Speaker 6: actually performs using the tool, and I got one point too.

536
00:40:12,495 --> 00:40:14,975
Speaker 6: Then we went out and got a professional to do

537
00:40:15,135 --> 00:40:18,375
Speaker 6: a model of the building, a theoretical model of the building,

538
00:40:18,455 --> 00:40:21,175
Speaker 6: to see what heating requirement there was actually going to

539
00:40:21,255 --> 00:40:25,295
Speaker 6: be that came back at zero point five to seven kilowatts.

540
00:40:27,935 --> 00:40:31,415
Speaker 6: Think about what's required to heat to four point five

541
00:40:31,775 --> 00:40:37,855
Speaker 6: versus zero point five to seven. It is significant difference,

542
00:40:38,015 --> 00:40:41,615
Speaker 6: right in what you need to do, i e. In

543
00:40:41,735 --> 00:40:44,735
Speaker 6: one case, you must install a heat pump, which means

544
00:40:44,855 --> 00:40:48,855
Speaker 6: penetrating the exterior cladding, doing lots of electrical work, making

545
00:40:48,895 --> 00:40:51,215
Speaker 6: sure that you've got a drainage pathway from the indoor

546
00:40:51,295 --> 00:40:54,455
Speaker 6: unit to the outside. For the comments eight, you've got

547
00:40:54,535 --> 00:40:56,695
Speaker 6: to have somewhere to sit that outdoor unit, which in

548
00:40:56,735 --> 00:41:01,015
Speaker 6: an apartment could be a little bit challenging, and you

549
00:41:01,095 --> 00:41:03,495
Speaker 6: know all of the cost involved to do something that

550
00:41:03,895 --> 00:41:06,575
Speaker 6: in the end, in my opinion, you don't actually need.

551
00:41:07,655 --> 00:41:09,215
Speaker 6: So give us a call on that if you'd like. Oh,

552
00:41:09,255 --> 00:41:11,695
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty and eighty is the number to call. James.

553
00:41:11,735 --> 00:41:15,255
Speaker 6: Good morning to you, Jane. It's good things.

554
00:41:17,335 --> 00:41:18,255
Speaker 14: Just a kind of.

555
00:41:19,815 --> 00:41:20,415
Speaker 9: My mother's.

556
00:41:21,015 --> 00:41:22,455
Speaker 15: She's on her own.

557
00:41:22,495 --> 00:41:27,975
Speaker 16: She's got we had acre aker land, and he's beside her.

558
00:41:28,855 --> 00:41:31,775
Speaker 16: Baker Land has been subdivided and they've got the neighbor.

559
00:41:33,095 --> 00:41:37,735
Speaker 16: It's built a big His house is slightly raised and

560
00:41:38,375 --> 00:41:42,055
Speaker 16: spilt A long cronky drive from the road up to

561
00:41:42,175 --> 00:41:45,855
Speaker 16: his house in the in the fall of the of

562
00:41:46,095 --> 00:41:52,135
Speaker 16: the driveways going towards my mother's house, right, and it's flooding.

563
00:41:52,655 --> 00:41:52,815
Speaker 10: Yep.

564
00:41:53,655 --> 00:41:57,015
Speaker 16: She've never had that fim before. And so I had

565
00:41:57,055 --> 00:41:58,615
Speaker 16: to talk to him and then I said, you need

566
00:41:58,695 --> 00:42:04,175
Speaker 16: a drive the fool is wrong and he said that

567
00:42:04,375 --> 00:42:08,895
Speaker 16: costs me quite a bit. Well, yeah, well, he said,

568
00:42:09,255 --> 00:42:13,615
Speaker 16: how verified put a sum a so call and your

569
00:42:14,415 --> 00:42:18,015
Speaker 16: parents just through the fence into the appearance place. And

570
00:42:18,175 --> 00:42:23,375
Speaker 16: I said, no, you can't do that the council. He said, oh,

571
00:42:23,655 --> 00:42:26,455
Speaker 16: you get them, get her to agree. She's in her eighties.

572
00:42:26,495 --> 00:42:29,855
Speaker 16: And I said no, I said, legally you can't do that.

573
00:42:30,095 --> 00:42:34,935
Speaker 16: So I don't think you can. Kidding hell no, yeah,

574
00:42:35,855 --> 00:42:39,015
Speaker 16: I thought of because that would come under lum too.

575
00:42:39,335 --> 00:42:43,095
Speaker 16: I mean, you have told the house, isn't you.

576
00:42:43,375 --> 00:42:44,335
Speaker 9: No, you don't.

577
00:42:44,775 --> 00:42:49,615
Speaker 6: You don't allow the neighbor who's basically lazy and maybe

578
00:42:49,615 --> 00:42:53,455
Speaker 6: a little bit of a bully to do that. Right,

579
00:42:53,575 --> 00:42:58,575
Speaker 6: So that that and also that type of drainage would

580
00:42:58,655 --> 00:43:00,895
Speaker 6: require a consent. You never get consent for it, right,

581
00:43:03,615 --> 00:43:06,895
Speaker 6: So this this development that's going on next door obviously

582
00:43:07,095 --> 00:43:07,855
Speaker 6: is consented.

583
00:43:09,895 --> 00:43:16,335
Speaker 16: He felt, well, yeah, that's quite long. She's her the

584
00:43:16,455 --> 00:43:21,615
Speaker 16: back of her sections pedick, and and his house is

585
00:43:21,735 --> 00:43:23,695
Speaker 16: right at the end of the peddock in a very

586
00:43:23,735 --> 00:43:27,775
Speaker 16: long driveway. So the water comes roaring down. Yeah, it

587
00:43:27,855 --> 00:43:31,415
Speaker 16: would be raised coming down because the fool all is

588
00:43:31,495 --> 00:43:36,415
Speaker 16: going to my mother's place. She's well on her aties

589
00:43:37,455 --> 00:43:39,775
Speaker 16: and the water is flooding or what she had. And

590
00:43:39,855 --> 00:43:41,975
Speaker 16: I said, yeah, you're going to have to change four

591
00:43:42,055 --> 00:43:42,215
Speaker 16: of it.

592
00:43:42,495 --> 00:43:47,295
Speaker 6: So yeah, he could, you know, in terms of actually

593
00:43:47,375 --> 00:43:49,815
Speaker 6: fixing it, what he could do is add a curb, right,

594
00:43:50,335 --> 00:43:52,615
Speaker 6: so it might fall to one side, but then he

595
00:43:52,775 --> 00:43:57,255
Speaker 6: catches it with a curb and then directs that down.

596
00:43:57,335 --> 00:44:00,135
Speaker 6: But then he's got to collect that somewhere as well, right,

597
00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:03,935
Speaker 6: and dispose of it, and all of that is required

598
00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:06,735
Speaker 6: by law. So that's why I asked if he's got

599
00:44:06,775 --> 00:44:09,975
Speaker 6: a building consent, I would say that on the building consent,

600
00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:13,655
Speaker 6: it will show us a particular design for the driveway.

601
00:44:15,415 --> 00:44:20,255
Speaker 6: And I wonder whether what he's done is not complied

602
00:44:20,335 --> 00:44:23,695
Speaker 6: with the design for the driveway. He's just gone ahead

603
00:44:25,015 --> 00:44:27,375
Speaker 6: whack something in in the hope that no one's going

604
00:44:27,455 --> 00:44:33,375
Speaker 6: to complain, But obviously it is causing flooding. So one

605
00:44:33,415 --> 00:44:35,775
Speaker 6: option would be to go to him and say can

606
00:44:35,895 --> 00:44:39,055
Speaker 6: you show me the design for the driveway please, and

607
00:44:39,175 --> 00:44:40,495
Speaker 6: then have a look at it and if it doesn't

608
00:44:40,575 --> 00:44:43,455
Speaker 6: match up, you know, like if he's saying, it's not

609
00:44:43,535 --> 00:44:45,495
Speaker 6: my problem, I've just put the driveway, and then you

610
00:44:45,615 --> 00:44:47,855
Speaker 6: could say, well, look we do have a problem because

611
00:44:47,855 --> 00:44:52,335
Speaker 6: we're flooding or my mum's flooding, and so I'm not

612
00:44:52,455 --> 00:44:55,095
Speaker 6: convinced that the driveway is built as per the consent

613
00:44:56,935 --> 00:45:02,855
Speaker 6: even yeah, so and then you know, if he's reluctant

614
00:45:02,895 --> 00:45:07,015
Speaker 6: to play ball again, I'd probably get into with counsel.

615
00:45:07,495 --> 00:45:09,895
Speaker 6: If he's doing a subdivision, there will be both a

616
00:45:10,015 --> 00:45:12,055
Speaker 6: resource consent and a building consent.

617
00:45:13,295 --> 00:45:19,975
Speaker 16: The house is already established, but yeah, and it's already

618
00:45:20,015 --> 00:45:24,015
Speaker 16: is already is stablished. There's done a year and year

619
00:45:24,015 --> 00:45:27,415
Speaker 16: and herb or maybe two years done. But with an

620
00:45:27,495 --> 00:45:30,455
Speaker 16: increasing rain we've had, but just notice it's got worse

621
00:45:30,535 --> 00:45:32,935
Speaker 16: and then the last couple of year it's just as

622
00:45:33,015 --> 00:45:34,855
Speaker 16: flood of the bed. It's all coming.

623
00:45:35,055 --> 00:45:39,055
Speaker 6: So on the adjoining property. On the adjoining property, James is,

624
00:45:39,135 --> 00:45:41,055
Speaker 6: there's still just one dwelling.

625
00:45:42,855 --> 00:45:47,495
Speaker 16: These three in the driveway that the in the driveway

626
00:45:47,655 --> 00:45:53,255
Speaker 16: feeds two houses on the sod the driveway runs draw

627
00:45:53,335 --> 00:45:58,695
Speaker 16: along the fence. Yeahs coming under the fence and flooding

628
00:45:58,735 --> 00:45:59,255
Speaker 16: into the water.

629
00:45:59,495 --> 00:46:04,095
Speaker 6: And I'd be happy to bet dollars to doughnuts that

630
00:46:04,455 --> 00:46:08,575
Speaker 6: the driveway design probably shows either a swale or a

631
00:46:08,735 --> 00:46:12,055
Speaker 6: curb as catchment and then that should be directed to

632
00:46:12,255 --> 00:46:15,895
Speaker 6: some controlled storm water. If he hasn't done that, it's

633
00:46:16,015 --> 00:46:20,855
Speaker 6: it's absolutely his problem, right you just it's a requirement

634
00:46:20,975 --> 00:46:23,375
Speaker 6: under the property law that you have to control stormwater

635
00:46:23,495 --> 00:46:26,495
Speaker 6: discharge from your property. He's not doing that and he's

636
00:46:26,535 --> 00:46:29,055
Speaker 6: in a breach. So the other person to talk to

637
00:46:29,255 --> 00:46:34,815
Speaker 6: James would be go to council and ask to speak

638
00:46:34,895 --> 00:46:39,055
Speaker 6: to the Resource Consents compliance monitoring officer and ask them

639
00:46:39,095 --> 00:46:39,575
Speaker 6: to go out.

640
00:46:39,495 --> 00:46:39,975
Speaker 8: And have a look.

641
00:46:40,975 --> 00:46:45,375
Speaker 11: Yes next week, no trouble back.

642
00:46:45,295 --> 00:46:48,855
Speaker 6: All the best, take care see then frustrating A I mean,

643
00:46:48,855 --> 00:46:50,495
Speaker 6: because it's you know, to be blunt. It's not that

644
00:46:50,615 --> 00:46:54,695
Speaker 6: hard to do a driveway where you are catching the

645
00:46:55,015 --> 00:46:57,655
Speaker 6: water that falls onto the driveway. It's a hard surface,

646
00:46:57,695 --> 00:47:01,535
Speaker 6: it's impermeable, it's going to sheet off somewhere. So most

647
00:47:01,655 --> 00:47:04,495
Speaker 6: driveways will have either a bit of a dish running

648
00:47:04,535 --> 00:47:07,455
Speaker 6: down one side which will catch the order directed into

649
00:47:07,975 --> 00:47:10,855
Speaker 6: a catchpit. Or to a channel grate and then discharge

650
00:47:10,895 --> 00:47:13,575
Speaker 6: it into storm water. But just sloping the driveway so

651
00:47:13,655 --> 00:47:17,455
Speaker 6: it falls to your neighbors is simply not acceptable. Take

652
00:47:17,495 --> 00:47:18,695
Speaker 6: short break back in a move.

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Speaker 7: Sai h.

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Speaker 6: News sport and with the top of the hour coming

655
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Speaker 6: up shortly. But Gerald, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, listen to your programming a lot. I've got a

657
00:50:39,375 --> 00:50:46,495
Speaker 13: problem an older cottage with a corrugated on roof. The

658
00:50:46,615 --> 00:50:51,375
Speaker 13: organized now the leadhead nails are going take leadheads in it,

659
00:50:51,415 --> 00:50:55,055
Speaker 13: which I wanted to get rid of. They've gone getting

660
00:50:55,135 --> 00:50:58,615
Speaker 13: rush marks around them, so we pulled them out, and

661
00:50:58,735 --> 00:51:03,655
Speaker 13: there's a little bit of rusty needs treating. And I

662
00:51:03,815 --> 00:51:06,775
Speaker 13: was advised to put the screws in the prop the

663
00:51:06,815 --> 00:51:11,215
Speaker 13: screws with brother. Get get some big washers that you

664
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Speaker 13: buy that go around them to increase the area. Yep,

665
00:51:16,175 --> 00:51:20,095
Speaker 13: what do we how do we treat that? Okay, I

666
00:51:20,175 --> 00:51:22,775
Speaker 13: can divert the water off the roof for a while.

667
00:51:22,815 --> 00:51:27,055
Speaker 9: We've got enough and yeah, sure, yeah, what shape?

668
00:51:28,135 --> 00:51:31,935
Speaker 6: Okay, Look, I think the idea would be I agree

669
00:51:31,975 --> 00:51:34,615
Speaker 6: with you pulling the old lead heads out. And there's

670
00:51:34,615 --> 00:51:36,575
Speaker 6: a bit of a trick to doing that without damaging

671
00:51:36,615 --> 00:51:38,775
Speaker 6: the corrigo diet. So if you can take the lead

672
00:51:38,815 --> 00:51:40,775
Speaker 6: heads out, and ideally you want to try and pull

673
00:51:40,815 --> 00:51:44,255
Speaker 6: those out as straight up as possible, right so that

674
00:51:44,455 --> 00:51:47,295
Speaker 6: stops it making a bigger hole through the top of

675
00:51:47,335 --> 00:51:50,455
Speaker 6: the corrigate. So get the lead heads out. In most

676
00:51:50,575 --> 00:51:52,775
Speaker 6: cases you'll find that if you get them out neatly,

677
00:51:53,055 --> 00:51:55,975
Speaker 6: the screw that you use with a neoprene washer on

678
00:51:56,095 --> 00:51:58,375
Speaker 6: it will be enough to cover the hole. And in

679
00:51:58,495 --> 00:52:01,335
Speaker 6: the occasional one where it doesn't, I would you could

680
00:52:01,335 --> 00:52:03,535
Speaker 6: add a larger washer if you want to, or just

681
00:52:03,615 --> 00:52:06,295
Speaker 6: put a dob of silicon in there. When you've pulled

682
00:52:06,375 --> 00:52:08,575
Speaker 6: the nail out, I would be inclined to treat the

683
00:52:08,655 --> 00:52:12,175
Speaker 6: area with a bit of Russ converter and then some

684
00:52:12,535 --> 00:52:16,375
Speaker 6: russkilled primer, and then eventually you'll put a new acrylic

685
00:52:16,415 --> 00:52:19,815
Speaker 6: coat over the top. It's job done. So that's how

686
00:52:19,855 --> 00:52:22,535
Speaker 6: I would approach it. But the key is getting the

687
00:52:22,655 --> 00:52:26,855
Speaker 6: nails out straight up and not making that whole much bigger, Rightio,

688
00:52:26,895 --> 00:52:28,895
Speaker 6: Thanks for that, Gerald, all the very best. We are

689
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Speaker 6: back straight after news, sport and weather.

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Speaker 17: S USA.

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Speaker 7: USA USA SAI said.

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Speaker 3: Radio.

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Speaker 6: That must be my turn. Eight hundred and eighty ten

694
01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:28,375
Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call. I don't know why

695
01:02:28,415 --> 01:02:34,415
Speaker 6: someone's texting me about the all Blacks, but hey, umm oh,

696
01:02:34,535 --> 01:02:37,575
Speaker 6: here's sorry, just a completely random text. This is fascinating.

697
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Speaker 6: Can you recommend a silicon spray to squirt on galvanized

698
01:02:40,535 --> 01:02:43,975
Speaker 6: chicken wire prevent to that is preventing the starlings from

699
01:02:44,055 --> 01:02:46,295
Speaker 6: nesting in the corners of the spouting and under the eaves.

700
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Speaker 6: The chicken wire will eventually rust being near the coast,

701
01:02:49,895 --> 01:02:51,695
Speaker 6: but we want to slow it down if possible. The

702
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Speaker 6: roof and spouting a powder coated metal and are seven

703
01:02:54,255 --> 01:02:56,935
Speaker 6: years old. Okay, that's not where I thought it was.

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Speaker 7: Going to go.

705
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Speaker 6: I would suggest that you rip out that galvanized chicken

706
01:03:02,015 --> 01:03:05,775
Speaker 6: wire and replace it with plastic mesh, right, because that

707
01:03:05,815 --> 01:03:09,335
Speaker 6: won't rush, and almost anything that you could spray on,

708
01:03:09,415 --> 01:03:11,175
Speaker 6: you're still going to miss a spot and you're going

709
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Speaker 6: to get the rust.

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Speaker 9: So I do that.

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Speaker 6: The reason that I perked up with that one is

712
01:03:16,455 --> 01:03:19,015
Speaker 6: a place that I look after suddenly has had birds

713
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Speaker 6: roosting in the veranda roof. And the reason I know

714
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Speaker 6: that is because there's droppings all over the verandah and

715
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Speaker 6: the handrail. And I was there the other day and

716
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Speaker 6: I washed all of that down and I went back

717
01:03:29,775 --> 01:03:31,935
Speaker 6: a couple of days later and it's all covered in

718
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Speaker 6: bird pil again. So I'm going to try I've never

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Speaker 6: tried the stuff before, the sort of no bird's gel

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Speaker 6: that you can squirt into these areas and it dissuades

721
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Speaker 6: them from hanging around there. But I've got to wash

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Speaker 6: it first. So that means today possibly I'll go and

723
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Speaker 6: do some water blasting, ah, clean all that up and

724
01:03:50,215 --> 01:03:52,575
Speaker 6: then apply that gel. If you've had luck with the

725
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Speaker 6: gel and you've got a moment, just let me quick

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Speaker 6: text nine two Does it actually work?

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Speaker 12: Wait?

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Speaker 6: One hundred and eighty ten eighty, let's get amongst the calls,

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Speaker 6: the conversation, Judy, good morning.

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Speaker 9: To you.

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Speaker 18: High their people. I just need some advice. I've got

732
01:04:12,815 --> 01:04:17,695
Speaker 18: a unit, it's a cross cross lease, and I need

733
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Speaker 18: some advice on a party wall. The next door neighbors

734
01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:26,175
Speaker 18: have placed their garden on this party wall, and I'm

735
01:04:26,375 --> 01:04:30,215
Speaker 18: finding there's mold coming through into my bedroom.

736
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Speaker 8: YEP, is this the cause?

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Speaker 14: Do you think.

738
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Speaker 6: Possibly? When you say they've placed the garden against it,

739
01:04:37,935 --> 01:04:40,015
Speaker 6: have they like built a planter box and then filled

740
01:04:40,055 --> 01:04:42,855
Speaker 6: it with soil and that's against the cladding above the

741
01:04:42,975 --> 01:04:43,575
Speaker 6: floor level.

742
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Speaker 18: No, it's it's two units. My unit that's lower than

743
01:04:49,855 --> 01:04:53,735
Speaker 18: their unit, and they've put a fence in between the

744
01:04:53,815 --> 01:04:57,175
Speaker 18: two units. If you can sort of get the idea

745
01:04:57,495 --> 01:05:02,975
Speaker 18: and dub that filled all their section up against the

746
01:05:03,095 --> 01:05:06,295
Speaker 18: party wall. So it's probably about four feet.

747
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Speaker 6: And the party wall that you describe is that part

748
01:05:12,415 --> 01:05:16,135
Speaker 6: of that is exterior and it backs onto your habitable space.

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Speaker 18: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 6: And then they've backfilled against that. So there's soil where

751
01:05:20,895 --> 01:05:25,775
Speaker 6: there wasn't soil before. Yes, and the leaking has come

752
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Speaker 6: about after they've done that.

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Speaker 12: I think.

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Speaker 18: So it happened before I actually came here. I haven't

755
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Speaker 18: noticed it until there a couple of years, and now

756
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Speaker 18: that that is causing a lot of well, I think

757
01:05:43,695 --> 01:05:46,775
Speaker 18: it is. There's mold in that corner where the party

758
01:05:46,855 --> 01:05:47,215
Speaker 18: waller is.

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Speaker 6: I think it's not an unreasonable assumption to make. I mean,

760
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Speaker 6: if the building when it was designed had you know,

761
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Speaker 6: the wall was there and lots of fresh air on

762
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Speaker 6: one side of it, and now there isn't any fresh

763
01:06:01,575 --> 01:06:03,695
Speaker 6: air and there's lots of soil pushed up against it,

764
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Speaker 6: which is going to hold moisture. And if they're was

765
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Speaker 6: either no or inadequate waterproofing against that wall. Then yes,

766
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Speaker 6: you can imagine the water is held there by the

767
01:06:13,575 --> 01:06:17,535
Speaker 6: soil it's being deposited, and then that's literally just soaking

768
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Speaker 6: through the block work, and then it will saturate the space,

769
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Speaker 6: and even if it's not a leak, it will introduce

770
01:06:23,495 --> 01:06:26,095
Speaker 6: so much moisture that it will give the right conditions

771
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Speaker 6: for mold to grow. So I think you're probably onto

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Speaker 6: something given that it's a cross lease title. Unless in

773
01:06:37,295 --> 01:06:40,295
Speaker 6: the cross lease agreement there is such a thing as

774
01:06:40,495 --> 01:06:43,175
Speaker 6: exclusive rights to a certain area.

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Speaker 18: Yes there is.

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Speaker 6: Ah, Okay, that's interesting. I'm just wondering whether that might

777
01:06:49,495 --> 01:06:52,135
Speaker 6: mean that it's a little bit more challenging for you

778
01:06:52,335 --> 01:06:54,695
Speaker 6: to intervene and to go to the neighbor and say, look,

779
01:06:55,255 --> 01:06:58,015
Speaker 6: I need you to remove this because it's causing issues

780
01:06:58,095 --> 01:06:59,095
Speaker 6: with my building.

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Speaker 18: Yes, the exclusive rights are that I can actually go

782
01:07:04,695 --> 01:07:07,335
Speaker 18: on to their property on that and they can come

783
01:07:07,415 --> 01:07:09,855
Speaker 18: onto mine. But now there's a fence in between the

784
01:07:09,935 --> 01:07:14,415
Speaker 18: two and that filled the garden. That can't happen right,

785
01:07:15,535 --> 01:07:18,135
Speaker 18: Not that I want to anyway, but I just know

786
01:07:18,295 --> 01:07:21,335
Speaker 18: what it is I can do to get this removed

787
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Speaker 18: off the party wall.

788
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Speaker 6: Look, I think from what you have described. It's not

789
01:07:26,975 --> 01:07:31,375
Speaker 6: unreasonable to say, hey, look, particularly if your floor level

790
01:07:31,535 --> 01:07:34,735
Speaker 6: is lower than the ground level that they've created. It

791
01:07:34,935 --> 01:07:37,775
Speaker 6: wasn't the original ground level. They've created it by backfilling it,

792
01:07:38,335 --> 01:07:41,215
Speaker 6: and they've put soil up against what's the wall? Is

793
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Speaker 6: it just a concrete block wall standard concrete block wall.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's the nineteen seventies units. So it's got there

795
01:07:47,775 --> 01:07:48,615
Speaker 18: just the block wall.

796
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so there's no waterproofing membrane against that block wall.

797
01:07:52,255 --> 01:07:55,015
Speaker 6: There's probably no drainage at the bottom of that block wall.

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Speaker 18: That's correct.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, look, I think that's most likely the cause.

800
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Speaker 6: So I mean, theoretically they could excavate all of that

801
01:08:08,015 --> 01:08:13,895
Speaker 6: material out, thoroughly waterproof the wall, add drainage, and backfill

802
01:08:13,975 --> 01:08:16,575
Speaker 6: it and not have that cause a problem to you.

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Speaker 18: I have asked them, and I have got quotes which

804
01:08:19,935 --> 01:08:22,895
Speaker 18: I've given them. Of course, they are refusing to pay,

805
01:08:23,535 --> 01:08:24,495
Speaker 18: but I just wind.

806
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Speaker 19: Of what my rights are.

807
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Speaker 6: I think the strongest point would be that when the

808
01:08:30,775 --> 01:08:34,855
Speaker 6: building was constructed, the ground level was lower, and that

809
01:08:35,015 --> 01:08:38,055
Speaker 6: they have altered or someone has altered, whether it was

810
01:08:38,095 --> 01:08:40,775
Speaker 6: there or the previous owner, it kind of doesn't matter.

811
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Speaker 6: It's their responsibility. I think that it was never intended

812
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Speaker 6: to be a retaining wall, which is what it's become. Right,

813
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Speaker 6: So a block wall is a block wall, and a

814
01:08:51,055 --> 01:08:53,175
Speaker 6: retaining wall might be made out of block, but it

815
01:08:53,215 --> 01:08:56,975
Speaker 6: doesn't make it a retaining wall. And because it was

816
01:08:57,055 --> 01:09:01,175
Speaker 6: never designed to be a retaining wall, it's causing moisture

817
01:09:01,375 --> 01:09:05,935
Speaker 6: or moisture is accumulating there. And so I think I

818
01:09:05,975 --> 01:09:07,895
Speaker 6: would think that you do have a right to say

819
01:09:08,015 --> 01:09:10,895
Speaker 6: it needs to be removed because it was not there originally,

820
01:09:11,095 --> 01:09:15,055
Speaker 6: and by making a change and not allowing for drainage

821
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Speaker 6: and waterproofing, your building is suffering as a result.

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Speaker 18: It is how can I enforce that If they're not

823
01:09:23,615 --> 01:09:25,335
Speaker 18: willing to actually do anything.

824
01:09:26,335 --> 01:09:30,495
Speaker 6: I suspect it becomes a matter for lawyers in terms

825
01:09:30,535 --> 01:09:33,055
Speaker 6: of enforcing your rights under the Property Act.

826
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Speaker 18: Okay, yeah, all right, So you just think I need

827
01:09:38,695 --> 01:09:41,455
Speaker 18: to go forward with a lawyer to actually get this.

828
01:09:41,775 --> 01:09:45,575
Speaker 6: I think if they're going to be unreasonable, then yes,

829
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Speaker 6: probably okay, because you've got to do something that's enforceable.

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Speaker 20: Yes, that's right.

831
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Speaker 6: Okay, sorry to hear that.

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01:09:55,535 --> 01:09:56,495
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a bad.

833
01:09:56,335 --> 01:09:59,495
Speaker 6: One, but I think you're on the right track. Good

834
01:09:59,575 --> 01:10:02,575
Speaker 6: luck with that, take care of all of this duty.

835
01:10:02,615 --> 01:10:05,975
Speaker 6: Bye bye. Actually just talking about cross leases next week

836
01:10:06,055 --> 01:10:09,655
Speaker 6: on the program. Ben Thompson, who is a lawyer who

837
01:10:09,775 --> 01:10:13,415
Speaker 6: specializes in cross lease and when I say specializes, like

838
01:10:14,535 --> 01:10:16,295
Speaker 6: when I talked to him a little while ago before

839
01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:18,495
Speaker 6: he came on the show a couple of weeks months ago,

840
01:10:19,255 --> 01:10:23,215
Speaker 6: he'd just been presenting to the Law Society about cross leases. Anyway,

841
01:10:23,255 --> 01:10:25,655
Speaker 6: we had a great session with him last time he

842
01:10:25,815 --> 01:10:28,055
Speaker 6: was on, and I've reached out to him to say, look,

843
01:10:28,295 --> 01:10:30,615
Speaker 6: could you join us again next Sunday on the program,

844
01:10:30,735 --> 01:10:34,055
Speaker 6: so after eight o'clock next week, and can we take

845
01:10:34,095 --> 01:10:37,895
Speaker 6: some questions? So next week, if you've got a specific

846
01:10:38,055 --> 01:10:42,575
Speaker 6: question about cross leases, we can get some answers from

847
01:10:42,615 --> 01:10:44,775
Speaker 6: a lawyer who specializes. And that Ben will be with

848
01:10:44,895 --> 01:10:47,535
Speaker 6: me on the show next Sunday. Really looking forward to that.

849
01:10:48,215 --> 01:10:51,735
Speaker 6: Coming upteen minutes after seven, round quarter to eight, we're

850
01:10:51,775 --> 01:10:55,575
Speaker 6: going to catch up with Mike Olds from Razine Construction.

851
01:10:56,615 --> 01:11:00,455
Speaker 6: Good timing because earlier this week, I think it was,

852
01:11:00,775 --> 01:11:03,295
Speaker 6: it was Wednesday morning and I was at my desk

853
01:11:03,335 --> 01:11:05,175
Speaker 6: doing got a paperwork, and the phone rings and it

854
01:11:05,255 --> 01:11:08,855
Speaker 6: was like a number that I'd recognize and the guy goes, oh, hi,

855
01:11:08,935 --> 01:11:12,695
Speaker 6: it's I won't say his name, and I thought I

856
01:11:12,735 --> 01:11:15,295
Speaker 6: would reach out because I listened to the show and

857
01:11:15,375 --> 01:11:18,695
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, just to be blunt, my number is

858
01:11:18,735 --> 01:11:22,655
Speaker 6: not easy to find for a reason. Anyway, he called

859
01:11:22,775 --> 01:11:25,895
Speaker 6: and said, look, I'm interested in a property that's up

860
01:11:25,935 --> 01:11:28,295
Speaker 6: for sale and it's got rock coat on the exterior,

861
01:11:28,295 --> 01:11:33,095
Speaker 6: which is a Razine Construction system's render on the exterior.

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01:11:33,375 --> 01:11:35,975
Speaker 6: Can you tell me much about it? And I said, well, look, yeah,

863
01:11:36,015 --> 01:11:38,575
Speaker 6: I think so because these things have got records, right,

864
01:11:38,615 --> 01:11:42,295
Speaker 6: because I know the people at Razine Construction and they'll

865
01:11:42,295 --> 01:11:44,575
Speaker 6: probably have some records of the job. It's a two

866
01:11:44,735 --> 01:11:49,255
Speaker 6: thy twelve constructed house by a well known builder in

867
01:11:49,375 --> 01:11:54,415
Speaker 6: a relatively new subdivision. So I contacted the Mike at

868
01:11:54,535 --> 01:11:58,295
Speaker 6: Razine Construction said, look this Jeppie's phoned me and I'll

869
01:11:58,335 --> 01:12:00,335
Speaker 6: help him out. Can you have a look on your records,

870
01:12:00,735 --> 01:12:04,095
Speaker 6: And within minutes he was able to bring up who

871
01:12:04,175 --> 01:12:06,575
Speaker 6: the contractor was when the job was done, what the

872
01:12:06,615 --> 01:12:10,695
Speaker 6: building consent was, records of all of the inspections done

873
01:12:10,775 --> 01:12:14,295
Speaker 6: not by council but by their own team. Right, so

874
01:12:14,455 --> 01:12:18,255
Speaker 6: their own people go and inspect the work. Photographs of

875
01:12:18,375 --> 01:12:21,975
Speaker 6: it under construction, so showing the fixing, showing the flashings,

876
01:12:22,255 --> 01:12:27,255
Speaker 6: showing the sealant, showing ground clearances, showing the ventilation, all

877
01:12:27,335 --> 01:12:29,375
Speaker 6: of that sort of thing, and then a certificate to

878
01:12:29,455 --> 01:12:31,775
Speaker 6: say that the building has been completed and all of

879
01:12:31,855 --> 01:12:34,975
Speaker 6: that is kept. And what really impressed me about that

880
01:12:35,255 --> 01:12:39,735
Speaker 6: is I'm struggling to think of another cladding system in

881
01:12:39,935 --> 01:12:44,735
Speaker 6: the country that would have that level of detail about it.

882
01:12:45,055 --> 01:12:47,735
Speaker 6: And if we're moving towards self certification, if we're moving

883
01:12:47,775 --> 01:12:50,535
Speaker 6: towards being able to build granny flats without having council

884
01:12:51,095 --> 01:12:53,935
Speaker 6: do the inspections, I think that's an example of what

885
01:12:54,575 --> 01:12:57,135
Speaker 6: companies should be providing if your product's going to be

886
01:12:57,295 --> 01:12:59,855
Speaker 6: used in a situation where it doesn't get or doesn't

887
01:12:59,895 --> 01:13:03,655
Speaker 6: require a building consent. It takes some comments on that too, Brian,

888
01:13:03,695 --> 01:13:04,535
Speaker 6: Good morning to you, sir.

889
01:13:05,455 --> 01:13:07,215
Speaker 21: Good morning are you good, buddy?

890
01:13:07,255 --> 01:13:07,735
Speaker 6: In yourself?

891
01:13:08,535 --> 01:13:12,095
Speaker 21: God, I've been the last few events. I've been running

892
01:13:12,095 --> 01:13:17,535
Speaker 21: around the city in him opener looking for stuff to pull.

893
01:13:18,815 --> 01:13:24,775
Speaker 21: We've got going to put in this plank flooring and

894
01:13:25,575 --> 01:13:28,455
Speaker 21: the hype and one we're going to put in, and

895
01:13:30,135 --> 01:13:35,935
Speaker 21: some of the floorboards and the flooring in the kitchener

896
01:13:36,055 --> 01:13:39,295
Speaker 21: is just flaking air that chipboard.

897
01:13:39,375 --> 01:13:39,735
Speaker 14: When you.

898
01:13:41,495 --> 01:13:46,655
Speaker 21: And I've been everywhere to get this something to level

899
01:13:46,735 --> 01:13:51,375
Speaker 21: the floor off, I am asked him about you know

900
01:13:51,575 --> 01:13:59,335
Speaker 21: this floor leveler, and I can't use that on wooden floors,

901
01:13:59,815 --> 01:14:02,495
Speaker 21: don't matter which one it is, the multi purpose one

902
01:14:02,575 --> 01:14:05,135
Speaker 21: of that. The DO says you can't use them on

903
01:14:05,255 --> 01:14:10,775
Speaker 21: wooden floors. So I want to use builders bog for

904
01:14:11,615 --> 01:14:13,175
Speaker 21: Can I use that instead?

905
01:14:15,655 --> 01:14:17,735
Speaker 6: I think when I suppose one of the concerns is

906
01:14:17,775 --> 01:14:20,415
Speaker 6: that nothing it's it's going to be really hard for

907
01:14:20,495 --> 01:14:25,215
Speaker 6: something to stick to the timber floor, right, it won't bond.

908
01:14:25,815 --> 01:14:29,255
Speaker 6: And then potentially you put your new laminate floor, your

909
01:14:29,335 --> 01:14:32,695
Speaker 6: hybrid floor over the top, and then the material underneath

910
01:14:32,735 --> 01:14:36,015
Speaker 6: that you've used for leveling delaminates and starts to rumble.

911
01:14:36,295 --> 01:14:47,135
Speaker 6: Right that that's what the concern would be. I I'm

912
01:14:47,215 --> 01:14:51,295
Speaker 6: wondering whether, like how how out of level is it?

913
01:14:53,295 --> 01:14:53,975
Speaker 21: What would say.

914
01:14:56,375 --> 01:14:57,935
Speaker 6: How out of level is the floor?

915
01:14:58,655 --> 01:15:03,615
Speaker 21: Like obviously, but there's just a few dips, you know

916
01:15:03,775 --> 01:15:11,175
Speaker 21: with the chip board is coming oak, yeah, sure, yeah,

917
01:15:11,295 --> 01:15:15,575
Speaker 21: And we're going to put that under filled under road

918
01:15:15,615 --> 01:15:19,255
Speaker 21: as well, because quite but one's got that rubbish stuff

919
01:15:19,335 --> 01:15:22,935
Speaker 21: underneath on it already and we're going to put that

920
01:15:23,655 --> 01:15:24,375
Speaker 21: in the kitchen.

921
01:15:24,655 --> 01:15:26,455
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, we're.

922
01:15:26,335 --> 01:15:26,935
Speaker 21: Going to put that.

923
01:15:27,255 --> 01:15:33,095
Speaker 6: Kind I wonder whether you know this is your house

924
01:15:33,215 --> 01:15:37,095
Speaker 6: right that you're doing it. So let's say it doesn't work,

925
01:15:38,175 --> 01:15:42,815
Speaker 6: it's only you to blame, Okay. So I'm just looking

926
01:15:42,855 --> 01:15:46,935
Speaker 6: at this like, if you're working for someone, you'd arguably

927
01:15:47,015 --> 01:15:48,895
Speaker 6: want to do it absolutely right because you don't want

928
01:15:49,375 --> 01:15:51,015
Speaker 6: someone to call it up and say it didn't work.

929
01:15:51,055 --> 01:15:54,735
Speaker 6: But in this instance, because if you're skimming I don't know,

930
01:15:54,855 --> 01:15:57,775
Speaker 6: five or six millimeters of if LC over the top

931
01:15:57,855 --> 01:16:00,175
Speaker 6: of that, what you might look for is to see

932
01:16:00,215 --> 01:16:02,975
Speaker 6: whether there's like a primer and adhesion primer that you

933
01:16:03,055 --> 01:16:05,775
Speaker 6: could apply to the particle board that will help the

934
01:16:05,975 --> 01:16:09,415
Speaker 6: floor and compound to bind to it. I'll be interested

935
01:16:09,935 --> 01:16:13,095
Speaker 6: because I do know a couple of flooring guys who

936
01:16:13,215 --> 01:16:16,855
Speaker 6: might have a product that will stick to timber, and

937
01:16:17,095 --> 01:16:21,855
Speaker 6: possibly the laminate or the hybrid flooring manufacturer or supplier

938
01:16:22,295 --> 01:16:24,175
Speaker 6: might be able to recommend because it can't be an

939
01:16:24,295 --> 01:16:27,175
Speaker 6: uncommon problem, right. Timber floors can be as out of

940
01:16:27,295 --> 01:16:28,855
Speaker 6: level as a concrete.

941
01:16:28,495 --> 01:16:28,975
Speaker 10: Slab, so.

942
01:16:30,895 --> 01:16:33,455
Speaker 6: There may well be a product product If there isn't

943
01:16:33,575 --> 01:16:36,855
Speaker 6: and you used FLC and you used it sparingly and

944
01:16:37,015 --> 01:16:40,615
Speaker 6: only the worst few areas. If there was a problem

945
01:16:40,655 --> 01:16:42,495
Speaker 6: with it later on, well.

946
01:16:42,695 --> 01:16:48,895
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've been therend everywhere and I've wrung Yeah, we've

947
01:16:48,975 --> 01:16:52,575
Speaker 21: got it. You know, a multi purpose one. Windy at

948
01:16:52,655 --> 01:16:56,615
Speaker 21: the Inn guy had a look on the computer and

949
01:16:56,735 --> 01:16:59,935
Speaker 21: said it said no, it can't be used on chip

950
01:17:00,015 --> 01:17:06,215
Speaker 21: board on warden flooring, So why use a multi purpose one?

951
01:17:06,415 --> 01:17:07,895
Speaker 21: Will make that's right.

952
01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:10,295
Speaker 6: If it's only for.

953
01:17:16,615 --> 01:17:28,175
Speaker 21: Your papers, means you can use it anyway. I mean, yeah, So.

954
01:17:29,655 --> 01:17:30,055
Speaker 9: And there we go.

955
01:17:31,295 --> 01:17:33,735
Speaker 6: Here we go rd x K sixty five.

956
01:17:35,895 --> 01:17:37,335
Speaker 22: X A r D e X.

957
01:17:39,095 --> 01:17:39,215
Speaker 2: Oh.

958
01:17:39,375 --> 01:17:44,535
Speaker 6: Yeah, formulated to adhere to timber and flexible enough to

959
01:17:44,575 --> 01:17:47,975
Speaker 6: accommodate timber movement. You do a primer and then you

960
01:17:48,135 --> 01:17:49,895
Speaker 6: do an Ardix floor leveling compound.

961
01:17:50,415 --> 01:17:50,815
Speaker 3: There you go.

962
01:17:51,175 --> 01:17:56,415
Speaker 6: Problem solved x A R D e X Who makes it?

963
01:17:56,855 --> 01:18:00,175
Speaker 6: Ardis do that's the company? So A R D e

964
01:18:00,575 --> 01:18:03,535
Speaker 6: x O d X.

965
01:18:04,015 --> 01:18:04,215
Speaker 9: Yeah.

966
01:18:05,375 --> 01:18:09,775
Speaker 6: Well I'll just jump online see if you can find

967
01:18:09,935 --> 01:18:12,375
Speaker 6: a local supply. It might be a specialist store, it

968
01:18:12,455 --> 01:18:15,175
Speaker 6: might be a tiling shop, or possibly.

969
01:18:16,095 --> 01:18:19,415
Speaker 21: Just sooner you're card. I've been to all those places,

970
01:18:19,535 --> 01:18:22,095
Speaker 21: you know, they deal and floor and they can tell me.

971
01:18:22,495 --> 01:18:26,095
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, look Ardets, I mean I know the brand.

972
01:18:26,095 --> 01:18:28,975
Speaker 6: I've used their products over the years. Just get in

973
01:18:29,055 --> 01:18:32,655
Speaker 6: contact with them and and it's a Ardix K sixty

974
01:18:32,735 --> 01:18:36,695
Speaker 6: five will probably help you out there, all right, make

975
01:18:36,775 --> 01:18:40,455
Speaker 6: all the very best, take care about it, take care,

976
01:18:40,815 --> 01:18:42,855
Speaker 6: uh andy, just hold the line. But it will come

977
01:18:42,895 --> 01:18:46,295
Speaker 6: to you in just a moment. It is twenty three

978
01:18:46,375 --> 01:22:08,455
Speaker 6: minutes after seven satis us you and you stalk the

979
01:22:08,575 --> 01:22:12,655
Speaker 6: big couple of texts as well. Oh cragy, this is frustrating,

980
01:22:12,855 --> 01:22:16,895
Speaker 6: Hey peek, My neighbor has directed new spouting from the

981
01:22:16,975 --> 01:22:20,095
Speaker 6: three story townhouse or three story house onto the carport roof,

982
01:22:20,175 --> 01:22:22,255
Speaker 6: onto the lawn into a ditch that he dug next

983
01:22:22,295 --> 01:22:25,975
Speaker 6: to our joint fence. The paving area is gushing rain

984
01:22:26,055 --> 01:22:29,855
Speaker 6: water from the carport spouting lawn floods next to this

985
01:22:30,055 --> 01:22:32,455
Speaker 6: joint fence, so the fence between the two properties where

986
01:22:32,455 --> 01:22:34,655
Speaker 6: he's dug a ditch for the spouting water from his roof.

987
01:22:35,295 --> 01:22:37,455
Speaker 6: I've spoken to him many times for quite a while now,

988
01:22:37,495 --> 01:22:40,655
Speaker 6: and he does nothing. I told the Wellington Council and

989
01:22:40,735 --> 01:22:43,055
Speaker 6: they've told me it's a civil matter and I'll need

990
01:22:43,095 --> 01:22:45,335
Speaker 6: to take him to the tribunal or to court. I

991
01:22:45,415 --> 01:22:49,735
Speaker 6: can't afford that I agree with your sentiments. I mean,

992
01:22:50,015 --> 01:22:52,255
Speaker 6: the fact is the neighbor needs to control the stormwater,

993
01:22:52,335 --> 01:22:55,455
Speaker 6: right and it's absolutely their responsibility and obligation to do

994
01:22:55,575 --> 01:23:00,135
Speaker 6: exactly that. In terms of enforcing it, if the building

995
01:23:01,775 --> 01:23:06,135
Speaker 6: is older and might not have a building consent, then

996
01:23:06,615 --> 01:23:08,815
Speaker 6: it's hard to go back to the council and go, hey,

997
01:23:08,895 --> 01:23:11,535
Speaker 6: look it's a problem with the building consent. The conditions

998
01:23:11,535 --> 01:23:15,135
Speaker 6: of the building consent haven't been met, so I'd look

999
01:23:15,175 --> 01:23:18,815
Speaker 6: into that first. Actually, is it relatively new, does it

1000
01:23:18,895 --> 01:23:21,775
Speaker 6: have a building consent? The building consent will detail how

1001
01:23:22,415 --> 01:23:27,695
Speaker 6: the storm water is mitigated or controlled, and if they

1002
01:23:27,735 --> 01:23:32,615
Speaker 6: haven't done those controls then it is a council issue. Thereafter, yeah,

1003
01:23:32,655 --> 01:23:35,495
Speaker 6: you probably have to go to the tribunal, but getting

1004
01:23:35,575 --> 01:23:38,535
Speaker 6: enforcement on that sort of thing is difficult and if

1005
01:23:38,575 --> 01:23:41,495
Speaker 6: people don't want to do the right thing. Interestingly enough, though,

1006
01:23:41,575 --> 01:23:47,695
Speaker 6: I'm just thinking about this water care in Auckland, who

1007
01:23:47,775 --> 01:23:49,215
Speaker 6: to be blunts seemed to be doing a hell of

1008
01:23:49,255 --> 01:23:53,935
Speaker 6: a lot better job than Wellington Water does have actually

1009
01:23:54,175 --> 01:23:58,055
Speaker 6: taken the initiative of sending people out to pick up

1010
01:23:58,095 --> 01:24:01,255
Speaker 6: on these sorts of things. So a downpipe the discharges

1011
01:24:01,415 --> 01:24:05,375
Speaker 6: onto the ground or onto a pathway with no obvious controls.

1012
01:24:06,375 --> 01:24:08,815
Speaker 6: They'll literally go up, knock on the door and go, hey,

1013
01:24:09,335 --> 01:24:10,895
Speaker 6: we've noticed that you're going to have a bit of

1014
01:24:10,975 --> 01:24:13,735
Speaker 6: a problem here, or even if you don't, your neighbors

1015
01:24:13,775 --> 01:24:16,855
Speaker 6: probably will. What are you going to do about it?

1016
01:24:17,175 --> 01:24:19,735
Speaker 6: So they're being proactive, which I think is great to

1017
01:24:19,815 --> 01:24:23,455
Speaker 6: be fair, because you know, in these times, with the

1018
01:24:23,495 --> 01:24:27,335
Speaker 6: amount of water that we're getting, it's increasingly a problem

1019
01:24:27,455 --> 01:24:31,455
Speaker 6: if you and I, as individual homeowners don't take responsibility

1020
01:24:31,535 --> 01:24:34,895
Speaker 6: for the water that we are collecting. Oh wait, one

1021
01:24:34,975 --> 01:24:36,855
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Glennis.

1022
01:24:36,895 --> 01:24:39,735
Speaker 23: Hello, Oh how are you? I've lost my boys?

1023
01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:43,375
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm sure sure you found it again just a

1024
01:24:43,415 --> 01:24:43,775
Speaker 6: little bit.

1025
01:24:45,135 --> 01:24:47,975
Speaker 23: And my birthday to day too, so that oh, happy birthday.

1026
01:24:48,335 --> 01:24:50,775
Speaker 23: I know what a data happened. And have a cot.

1027
01:24:51,015 --> 01:24:53,895
Speaker 23: I've got a healthy homes form sure. In two thousand

1028
01:24:53,935 --> 01:24:58,095
Speaker 23: and nine they insulated this scending with fluff. The thickness

1029
01:24:58,175 --> 01:25:02,735
Speaker 23: is two point nine and it's got pulleys to acrllic

1030
01:25:02,815 --> 01:25:05,015
Speaker 23: carpet on the floor. You can't go under the house

1031
01:25:05,775 --> 01:25:11,015
Speaker 23: and that is one point one point three meters now

1032
01:25:11,095 --> 01:25:13,015
Speaker 23: this carpet on the floors, and he's sitting on the

1033
01:25:13,135 --> 01:25:16,335
Speaker 23: concrete on the concrete underneath. Because I've got an open

1034
01:25:16,375 --> 01:25:19,895
Speaker 23: planned lounge and kitchen here upstairs, there's a got a

1035
01:25:19,975 --> 01:25:22,655
Speaker 23: fan heater. That said, my bedroom's got a heater. The

1036
01:25:22,695 --> 01:25:25,735
Speaker 23: spare room hasn't got a heater. They put like a

1037
01:25:25,855 --> 01:25:28,335
Speaker 23: heat pump in, but it's got air conditioner written on

1038
01:25:28,455 --> 01:25:31,895
Speaker 23: it right by the front door. Basically, the house is

1039
01:25:31,935 --> 01:25:34,695
Speaker 23: still cold. It's pubably because it's concrete. I'm not used

1040
01:25:34,695 --> 01:25:38,575
Speaker 23: to concrete houses. Now, my power was rising up like

1041
01:25:38,735 --> 01:25:41,935
Speaker 23: a warmer than what the house is at the moment.

1042
01:25:43,295 --> 01:25:47,215
Speaker 23: I don't know what to do. Bait it Morey's paying

1043
01:25:47,335 --> 01:25:48,855
Speaker 23: power for nothing, you know.

1044
01:25:50,215 --> 01:25:52,375
Speaker 6: Look, this is one of the challenges with the heating

1045
01:25:52,495 --> 01:25:55,615
Speaker 6: requirement for the Healthy Home standards is that you know,

1046
01:25:56,095 --> 01:26:00,175
Speaker 6: in order to comply, the landlord will need to put

1047
01:26:00,255 --> 01:26:02,615
Speaker 6: in a fixed form of heating that can get your

1048
01:26:02,735 --> 01:26:05,855
Speaker 6: room to or that the living room only the living room.

1049
01:26:06,135 --> 01:26:08,895
Speaker 6: But if the living room has a staircase or is

1050
01:26:09,135 --> 01:26:12,415
Speaker 6: open plan, then it ends up being quite a large area.

1051
01:26:12,775 --> 01:26:15,575
Speaker 23: Particularly Juri is about thirty feet long from the front

1052
01:26:15,615 --> 01:26:17,055
Speaker 23: door to the ranch ludders here.

1053
01:26:17,455 --> 01:26:19,095
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it is the house to story.

1054
01:26:20,055 --> 01:26:23,495
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's one of those but joined on to people.

1055
01:26:23,695 --> 01:26:25,895
Speaker 6: Yeah, but then see for that. If you're doing a

1056
01:26:25,935 --> 01:26:29,175
Speaker 6: healthy homes assessment on the heating, you need to calculate

1057
01:26:29,215 --> 01:26:32,055
Speaker 6: the floor space of the living area, and if that

1058
01:26:32,175 --> 01:26:34,455
Speaker 6: includes the dining area in the kitchen, that's got to

1059
01:26:34,495 --> 01:26:37,495
Speaker 6: be included in it. And then because it's open plan

1060
01:26:37,815 --> 01:26:40,615
Speaker 6: with a staircase, you have to calculate the space of

1061
01:26:40,695 --> 01:26:44,135
Speaker 6: the staircase and the upstairs landing until you get to

1062
01:26:44,255 --> 01:26:46,815
Speaker 6: the doors right to any of the rooms upstairs, So

1063
01:26:47,415 --> 01:26:49,615
Speaker 6: that ends up being quite a large space. If there's

1064
01:26:49,735 --> 01:26:54,735
Speaker 6: also relatively low levels of insulation, then what tends to

1065
01:26:54,815 --> 01:26:57,695
Speaker 6: happen is your heating requirement will will go up quite

1066
01:26:57,695 --> 01:27:03,335
Speaker 6: a lot. So I wonder whether you're the tenant not

1067
01:27:03,455 --> 01:27:07,615
Speaker 6: the five years here, okay, other tenant. So what you

1068
01:27:07,655 --> 01:27:11,375
Speaker 6: could do is ask the landlord to provide an updated

1069
01:27:12,295 --> 01:27:14,415
Speaker 6: heating calculation.

1070
01:27:14,935 --> 01:27:16,215
Speaker 23: In front of me at the moment.

1071
01:27:16,375 --> 01:27:18,775
Speaker 6: Okay, and what does it give you?

1072
01:27:18,895 --> 01:27:21,735
Speaker 23: A number nine when they put the insulation in. But

1073
01:27:21,895 --> 01:27:24,895
Speaker 23: this is it was stated on the thirties, but the

1074
01:27:24,975 --> 01:27:27,615
Speaker 23: insulation was put in on two thousand and nine in

1075
01:27:27,695 --> 01:27:28,535
Speaker 23: the ceiling.

1076
01:27:28,375 --> 01:27:31,455
Speaker 6: Which is fine, but remember the Healthy Homes legislation didn't

1077
01:27:31,495 --> 01:27:34,215
Speaker 6: exist in two thousand and nine, right, So well that's what.

1078
01:27:34,295 --> 01:27:37,295
Speaker 23: They've got written down here. Yeah, they say it fits

1079
01:27:37,415 --> 01:27:40,575
Speaker 23: regulation to the house. But because it's so big, it's

1080
01:27:40,615 --> 01:27:43,055
Speaker 23: probably why it's so cold. You know what.

1081
01:27:43,215 --> 01:27:46,855
Speaker 6: I what I suspect is that the if you did

1082
01:27:46,895 --> 01:27:51,295
Speaker 6: a proper calculation of the heating requirement, what form of

1083
01:27:51,375 --> 01:27:54,855
Speaker 6: heating you've got is probably insufficient and needs to be

1084
01:27:55,015 --> 01:27:57,775
Speaker 6: topped up. And that's I think an obligation on the

1085
01:27:57,895 --> 01:28:01,375
Speaker 6: landlord to do that in order to stay compliant.

1086
01:28:02,295 --> 01:28:04,535
Speaker 23: Yeah, they put the machine of the heat pump in

1087
01:28:04,615 --> 01:28:07,295
Speaker 23: the backyard behind me, and full of weeds in the garden,

1088
01:28:07,895 --> 01:28:09,815
Speaker 23: so having it in the front of the house. They've

1089
01:28:09,855 --> 01:28:11,415
Speaker 23: got it at the back of the house.

1090
01:28:11,855 --> 01:28:15,575
Speaker 6: Doesn't really matter where it is as long as yeah,

1091
01:28:15,655 --> 01:28:17,855
Speaker 6: but they do need to ventilate, so if the weeds

1092
01:28:17,895 --> 01:28:19,455
Speaker 6: are growing up in front of it, maybe you need

1093
01:28:19,535 --> 01:28:22,735
Speaker 6: to just cut the weeds back a little bit. Yeah,

1094
01:28:23,295 --> 01:28:26,175
Speaker 6: all right, So it'll be about the heating requirements, and

1095
01:28:26,535 --> 01:28:28,815
Speaker 6: I wonder whether they haven't done a great job of

1096
01:28:28,935 --> 01:28:33,295
Speaker 6: the requirements and therefore you're not able to generate the heat.

1097
01:28:33,455 --> 01:28:36,295
Speaker 6: The problem is, and this is often talked about. I

1098
01:28:36,375 --> 01:28:39,655
Speaker 6: guess for tenants and landlords is you can put the

1099
01:28:39,695 --> 01:28:44,175
Speaker 6: heat and requirement in, but to run it requires power.

1100
01:28:44,495 --> 01:28:47,375
Speaker 6: Power is expensive, and so people not to run it.

1101
01:28:48,135 --> 01:28:49,495
Speaker 6: So you can put it in and people won't turn

1102
01:28:49,535 --> 01:28:54,255
Speaker 6: it on. That's what happens too, Robin, greetings to you.

1103
01:28:55,415 --> 01:28:57,055
Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning, Robin.

1104
01:28:58,655 --> 01:29:03,055
Speaker 19: I've got a query regarding the insulation of my house,

1105
01:29:03,375 --> 01:29:08,055
Speaker 19: sure which I bought in nineteen eighty six, and it

1106
01:29:08,215 --> 01:29:13,815
Speaker 19: was a nineteen seventy five brickhouse new build at the time,

1107
01:29:14,815 --> 01:29:20,535
Speaker 19: and the insulation were pink bats, which has been very good.

1108
01:29:21,295 --> 01:29:26,615
Speaker 19: Now I'm just wondering whether there's any point in putting

1109
01:29:27,215 --> 01:29:31,135
Speaker 19: a loose layer of a number of more pink bats

1110
01:29:31,455 --> 01:29:36,295
Speaker 19: over the top. I have got two heat pumps, one

1111
01:29:36,375 --> 01:29:41,975
Speaker 19: in the lounge and one up the front hall, which

1112
01:29:41,975 --> 01:29:46,335
Speaker 19: are very effective. No problem with those, but I'm just

1113
01:29:46,495 --> 01:29:51,695
Speaker 19: wondering whether I go to the expense of putting loose.

1114
01:29:51,895 --> 01:29:56,055
Speaker 6: More insulation into the roof that's the roof. Would I

1115
01:29:56,135 --> 01:29:59,775
Speaker 6: would heartily recommend that you do exactly that. So if

1116
01:29:59,815 --> 01:30:03,775
Speaker 6: the insulation was installed all those years ago and the

1117
01:30:03,855 --> 01:30:06,495
Speaker 6: pink bats and it's nothing, it's not the rog tree

1118
01:30:06,535 --> 01:30:09,775
Speaker 6: about the pink bats, but they do sag over time.

1119
01:30:09,975 --> 01:30:14,615
Speaker 6: They settle, right, so the actual insulation value decreases over time.

1120
01:30:14,695 --> 01:30:17,695
Speaker 6: Because they settle, they don't have as much loft. So

1121
01:30:17,935 --> 01:30:21,695
Speaker 6: leave it in there and get an insulation installer to

1122
01:30:21,815 --> 01:30:25,455
Speaker 6: do another layer of insulation over the top of it,

1123
01:30:25,655 --> 01:30:28,215
Speaker 6: and ideally over the top of all of the timber

1124
01:30:28,295 --> 01:30:30,495
Speaker 6: that's in there, so the bottom quart of the trusses

1125
01:30:31,535 --> 01:30:34,895
Speaker 6: and as far out to the top plate around the

1126
01:30:34,935 --> 01:30:38,815
Speaker 6: perimeter as they possibly can do. Have that installed. That

1127
01:30:38,935 --> 01:30:43,015
Speaker 6: will make a significant difference to keeping the heat into

1128
01:30:43,095 --> 01:30:46,575
Speaker 6: the house. Okay, yep, definitely a good idea.

1129
01:30:47,575 --> 01:30:49,735
Speaker 19: Alrighty all the best.

1130
01:30:49,735 --> 01:30:55,495
Speaker 6: Robin, You take care. We'll come back with Jeremy in

1131
01:30:55,895 --> 01:30:57,615
Speaker 6: just a moment. If you've got a question, Oh, eight

1132
01:30:57,735 --> 01:30:59,095
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the.

1133
01:30:59,175 --> 01:31:58,015
Speaker 24: Numbers us.

1134
01:32:22,135 --> 01:34:11,295
Speaker 3: US right?

1135
01:34:11,415 --> 01:34:13,415
Speaker 6: Oh, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Then auber

1136
01:34:13,495 --> 01:34:17,775
Speaker 6: to call Pete the caller with the heat pump problem.

1137
01:34:18,135 --> 01:34:21,655
Speaker 6: I'm exactly sure whether it is actually heat plump. Should

1138
01:34:21,655 --> 01:34:23,975
Speaker 6: ask the landlord when it was last service, and if

1139
01:34:24,055 --> 01:34:27,015
Speaker 6: she keeps the filters clean, that does make a big difference. Yeah,

1140
01:34:27,015 --> 01:34:31,055
Speaker 6: you're absolutely right, Michael. It's on my list. For a

1141
01:34:31,095 --> 01:34:34,495
Speaker 6: couple of places I look after to have the servicing done.

1142
01:34:35,615 --> 01:34:37,575
Speaker 6: It'll probably extend the life of the heat pump. And

1143
01:34:37,655 --> 01:34:40,415
Speaker 6: certainly they perform a lot better if you clean them

1144
01:34:40,495 --> 01:34:44,295
Speaker 6: and look after them. Jeremy, Hello, good morning.

1145
01:34:44,095 --> 01:34:45,255
Speaker 9: Peter, how are you very well?

1146
01:34:46,015 --> 01:34:46,375
Speaker 6: What's up?

1147
01:34:46,375 --> 01:34:46,975
Speaker 9: Good Man? Good?

1148
01:34:47,935 --> 01:34:47,975
Speaker 2: So?

1149
01:34:49,015 --> 01:34:54,975
Speaker 22: Uh good rental property in that Oh and the nineteen

1150
01:34:55,015 --> 01:34:59,055
Speaker 22: sixties build brick and tile like really good home in

1151
01:34:59,175 --> 01:35:04,295
Speaker 22: general on piles and the back patio. It's just like

1152
01:35:04,455 --> 01:35:07,375
Speaker 22: cobbles laid on soil and sand.

1153
01:35:07,815 --> 01:35:10,815
Speaker 14: It's been like that for like years, you know, but.

1154
01:35:12,415 --> 01:35:16,335
Speaker 22: It just it's always so damnp and just you know,

1155
01:35:16,815 --> 01:35:23,215
Speaker 22: just wet. And so I've hide one of those chained

1156
01:35:23,895 --> 01:35:34,975
Speaker 22: trench fun and yeah, bron the back, the back, the

1157
01:35:35,015 --> 01:35:38,175
Speaker 22: whole in for the house of backs. Fence laid on

1158
01:35:38,295 --> 01:35:45,055
Speaker 22: one ten overcall and chucked and some I forget the grade,

1159
01:35:45,095 --> 01:35:49,615
Speaker 22: but your scoria base so about two hundred yeah, about

1160
01:35:49,615 --> 01:35:54,015
Speaker 22: two hundred worth a scoring up, laid the overcall and

1161
01:35:54,095 --> 01:35:58,175
Speaker 22: then put scorer on top. Now there's no sispits or

1162
01:35:58,615 --> 01:36:03,815
Speaker 22: or or drainage like that I can feed into now,

1163
01:36:05,255 --> 01:36:09,255
Speaker 22: can I obviously obviously it's got to have four, But

1164
01:36:09,615 --> 01:36:14,655
Speaker 22: can I create some sort of like Scoria, kind of

1165
01:36:15,575 --> 01:36:17,175
Speaker 22: kind of drainage pit at all.

1166
01:36:17,735 --> 01:36:19,535
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I've got to say that the best

1167
01:36:19,575 --> 01:36:22,695
Speaker 6: solution would be to try and find stormwater, your own

1168
01:36:22,815 --> 01:36:27,215
Speaker 6: storm water, and tee into it, which technically I think

1169
01:36:27,295 --> 01:36:29,695
Speaker 6: would require it consent, but anyway, we'll put that to

1170
01:36:29,735 --> 01:36:32,055
Speaker 6: one side for now. So ideally, what you want to

1171
01:36:32,095 --> 01:36:36,175
Speaker 6: do is have that drainage coil dropping into a catch pit,

1172
01:36:37,375 --> 01:36:39,695
Speaker 6: which will allow the sediment to sink to the bottom

1173
01:36:39,775 --> 01:36:42,215
Speaker 6: and only clean water to go into the storm water.

1174
01:36:42,295 --> 01:36:42,455
Speaker 10: Light.

1175
01:36:42,895 --> 01:36:45,895
Speaker 6: So that's your that's your gold plated solution. Let's say

1176
01:36:46,015 --> 01:36:49,015
Speaker 6: you can't do that, or it's you know, the stormwater's

1177
01:36:49,055 --> 01:36:51,215
Speaker 6: miles away or something like that. I guess what you

1178
01:36:51,295 --> 01:36:56,535
Speaker 6: could do is do a soakage pit. I would suggest

1179
01:36:56,575 --> 01:36:58,975
Speaker 6: that you try and move that away from the boundary

1180
01:36:59,095 --> 01:37:02,375
Speaker 6: so that if it did get inundated, it doesn't impact

1181
01:37:02,455 --> 01:37:04,175
Speaker 6: on the neighbor. And we've been talking about that where

1182
01:37:04,215 --> 01:37:07,015
Speaker 6: people don't control the stormwater and impact the neighbor. So

1183
01:37:08,975 --> 01:37:12,975
Speaker 6: and one of the keys to doing those soakage pits

1184
01:37:13,135 --> 01:37:16,575
Speaker 6: is to so dig you know, a decent sized hole,

1185
01:37:16,655 --> 01:37:18,775
Speaker 6: and we're talking like you know, met deep met a

1186
01:37:18,855 --> 01:37:21,895
Speaker 6: square sort of thing. Take all of the material out

1187
01:37:22,175 --> 01:37:27,055
Speaker 6: line that with gear textile cloth, right, which is like

1188
01:37:27,455 --> 01:37:31,215
Speaker 6: a matting that you'd put under driveways and behind retaining

1189
01:37:31,255 --> 01:37:33,655
Speaker 6: walls and those sorts of things, and then fill that

1190
01:37:33,775 --> 01:37:36,535
Speaker 6: with scoria, and I when I've done them, I actually

1191
01:37:36,655 --> 01:37:39,895
Speaker 6: take like a couple of meters of that drainage coil

1192
01:37:40,055 --> 01:37:42,895
Speaker 6: or black snake, whatever one you're using, and I loop

1193
01:37:43,015 --> 01:37:45,855
Speaker 6: that in there. So I've got like a volume that

1194
01:37:46,135 --> 01:37:49,255
Speaker 6: can't be crushed if you imagine, right, Because what typically

1195
01:37:49,455 --> 01:37:52,775
Speaker 6: often happens is you'll run your drainage coil into the scoria,

1196
01:37:53,055 --> 01:37:55,015
Speaker 6: but then it kind of just hits the scoria, right.

1197
01:37:55,135 --> 01:37:57,335
Speaker 6: What you want is for it to have some space

1198
01:37:57,455 --> 01:38:00,415
Speaker 6: to percolate out through the scoria. So I do a

1199
01:38:00,455 --> 01:38:04,895
Speaker 6: big loop of drainage coil in there and then fill

1200
01:38:04,935 --> 01:38:08,735
Speaker 6: it with scoria old the botom cloth or the geotextile

1201
01:38:08,775 --> 01:38:11,135
Speaker 6: cloth over the top, and then put your soil back

1202
01:38:11,215 --> 01:38:14,215
Speaker 6: over there, and and that if you're in the right

1203
01:38:14,535 --> 01:38:16,775
Speaker 6: sort of environment where you don't have heavy clays and

1204
01:38:16,815 --> 01:38:20,895
Speaker 6: that sort of thing, the water, because you're only collecting groundwater,

1205
01:38:21,255 --> 01:38:26,135
Speaker 6: will drain away and percolate back into there. Yeah, but

1206
01:38:26,495 --> 01:38:29,495
Speaker 6: ideally you'd want that to be a reasonable way away

1207
01:38:29,535 --> 01:38:32,495
Speaker 6: from the neighbor. And you know, if you're really in heavy,

1208
01:38:32,535 --> 01:38:34,615
Speaker 6: heavy clays, then in the end the clay is just

1209
01:38:34,695 --> 01:38:36,415
Speaker 6: going to hold it and it's going to fill up

1210
01:38:36,455 --> 01:38:39,215
Speaker 6: with water and not actually go anywhere. So you've got

1211
01:38:39,295 --> 01:38:41,015
Speaker 6: to be a bit reasonable about where you can actually

1212
01:38:41,055 --> 01:38:41,295
Speaker 6: put it.

1213
01:38:42,415 --> 01:38:45,895
Speaker 22: Yes, sweet, I mean, like it's not like wheat, weat wheat.

1214
01:38:46,055 --> 01:38:50,655
Speaker 22: It's like essentially it's we're copecting the drainage from the neighbor.

1215
01:38:50,895 --> 01:38:53,575
Speaker 22: So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of we just

1216
01:38:53,735 --> 01:38:55,335
Speaker 22: kind of want to dry it out.

1217
01:38:56,695 --> 01:38:59,735
Speaker 6: So and look, even the fact that you're collecting some

1218
01:38:59,855 --> 01:39:01,935
Speaker 6: of that water and running it through a length of

1219
01:39:02,095 --> 01:39:06,735
Speaker 6: the drainage coil will help with the more sure that's

1220
01:39:06,775 --> 01:39:09,175
Speaker 6: held in the in the soil around the patio on

1221
01:39:09,255 --> 01:39:11,455
Speaker 6: that sort of thing. So just just having the field

1222
01:39:11,495 --> 01:39:14,095
Speaker 6: drains themselves, the French drains themselves, will help.

1223
01:39:15,375 --> 01:39:19,295
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean French, it's just right out already, you know.

1224
01:39:20,735 --> 01:39:25,055
Speaker 6: So yeah, wreck that into a into a soakage pit.

1225
01:39:25,255 --> 01:39:28,135
Speaker 6: But the key to the soakage pit is having that

1226
01:39:28,295 --> 01:39:31,415
Speaker 6: geotextile cloth. Right the old ones that I've dug up

1227
01:39:31,735 --> 01:39:33,615
Speaker 6: where they've just dug a hole put scoria in it,

1228
01:39:33,775 --> 01:39:36,135
Speaker 6: they end up just filling with sediment and then they

1229
01:39:36,175 --> 01:39:39,055
Speaker 6: don't work. So the is the key.

1230
01:39:39,335 --> 01:39:46,255
Speaker 22: Yeah, Now, when I when I relay the patio tiles

1231
01:39:46,535 --> 01:39:51,775
Speaker 22: like by three two, just old like terracotta looking ones.

1232
01:39:52,175 --> 01:39:54,815
Speaker 22: Now can I should I should I run like a

1233
01:39:54,975 --> 01:40:00,135
Speaker 22: sand or some sort of like gap over the scoria

1234
01:40:00,975 --> 01:40:05,495
Speaker 22: between the cobbles and the soil, or and it'll still.

1235
01:40:05,335 --> 01:40:09,255
Speaker 6: Move around a little bit if you can be bothered,

1236
01:40:10,855 --> 01:40:13,655
Speaker 6: I would actually do that sand. I'd do a sand

1237
01:40:13,695 --> 01:40:18,055
Speaker 6: and cement mix like a slurry. So compact. Yeah, compact

1238
01:40:18,095 --> 01:40:22,335
Speaker 6: the base down really well and then literally bed your

1239
01:40:22,855 --> 01:40:27,015
Speaker 6: pavers down into a sand and cement mortar bed and

1240
01:40:27,255 --> 01:40:30,055
Speaker 6: that will keep it level for a lot longer than

1241
01:40:30,175 --> 01:40:32,335
Speaker 6: just putting it down onto the sand over the top

1242
01:40:32,375 --> 01:40:32,855
Speaker 6: of the scory.

1243
01:40:33,775 --> 01:40:36,375
Speaker 22: Yes, and the natural is the natural moisture will just

1244
01:40:36,735 --> 01:40:39,975
Speaker 22: harden the cement in the sand and it'll just bond.

1245
01:40:40,375 --> 01:40:42,055
Speaker 6: Or what you can do is do the sand and

1246
01:40:42,135 --> 01:40:44,335
Speaker 6: cement and then just before you lay the tile, just

1247
01:40:44,375 --> 01:40:47,295
Speaker 6: take a little handful of cement and scatter it over

1248
01:40:47,375 --> 01:40:50,255
Speaker 6: the top and you'll see it change color because it'll

1249
01:40:50,415 --> 01:40:52,215
Speaker 6: hit the moisture. And then when you bed the tile

1250
01:40:52,335 --> 01:40:54,255
Speaker 6: down over the top. It'll it'll help bond.

1251
01:40:55,295 --> 01:40:57,775
Speaker 22: Gotcha, what's the ratio of sand cement?

1252
01:40:57,935 --> 01:41:01,415
Speaker 6: Six to one six one six scoops of sand one

1253
01:41:01,575 --> 01:41:03,535
Speaker 6: of cement. That'll be a nice strong mix. And the

1254
01:41:03,535 --> 01:41:03,975
Speaker 6: way you go.

1255
01:41:06,415 --> 01:41:06,855
Speaker 11: Take care of it.

1256
01:41:07,615 --> 01:41:10,295
Speaker 6: Actually, that'll that ratio is exactly what I'll be using

1257
01:41:10,335 --> 01:41:13,135
Speaker 6: tomorrow when I'll mix up some concrete for the fence posts.

1258
01:41:13,175 --> 01:41:15,975
Speaker 6: So I'm just going to go. I don't know, the

1259
01:41:16,055 --> 01:41:18,055
Speaker 6: bags are great, but I kind of like old school,

1260
01:41:18,175 --> 01:41:21,695
Speaker 6: so I'll go and get some builders mix. I'll get

1261
01:41:21,735 --> 01:41:24,415
Speaker 6: a bag of cement, the mixer oud or not even

1262
01:41:24,455 --> 01:41:26,415
Speaker 6: the mixer. They'll just do it in the wheelbarrow and

1263
01:41:26,535 --> 01:41:29,575
Speaker 6: then six to one, nice strong mix, not too much water.

1264
01:41:30,655 --> 01:41:31,015
Speaker 20: Bengo.

1265
01:41:31,335 --> 01:41:33,855
Speaker 6: Job done. That's tomorrow sorted. Right, We're gonna take a break.

1266
01:41:33,855 --> 01:41:36,495
Speaker 6: We're gonna talk to Mike Olds from Razine Construction straight

1267
01:41:36,535 --> 01:44:46,695
Speaker 6: after the breaka you and us talk to the'd be

1268
01:44:46,855 --> 01:44:50,055
Speaker 6: so interesting sort of situation for me this week where

1269
01:44:51,695 --> 01:44:55,135
Speaker 6: just doing some paperwork at home, phone rings number that

1270
01:44:55,215 --> 01:44:58,375
Speaker 6: I didn't know, not a Hedden number, just a number

1271
01:44:58,415 --> 01:45:02,135
Speaker 6: that I didn't know, and talk to a delightful gentleman

1272
01:45:02,655 --> 01:45:05,855
Speaker 6: in christ Church who said, look, I'm reaching out because

1273
01:45:06,575 --> 01:45:08,735
Speaker 6: I listened to the show. I've heard you talk about

1274
01:45:09,055 --> 01:45:11,495
Speaker 6: different claddings, and I'm looking at a house. In fact,

1275
01:45:11,535 --> 01:45:13,935
Speaker 6: i'm looking at a house that I might buy this afternoon.

1276
01:45:14,055 --> 01:45:16,055
Speaker 6: The auctions at twelve o'clock. We're talking at like eight

1277
01:45:16,135 --> 01:45:20,215
Speaker 6: thirty in the morning, and it's got rock coat as

1278
01:45:20,375 --> 01:45:23,575
Speaker 6: the exterior render. Basically all of the house, bar a

1279
01:45:23,655 --> 01:45:26,295
Speaker 6: little bit of weatherboard, was all done with that. Do

1280
01:45:26,375 --> 01:45:28,295
Speaker 6: you know much about it? And I said, well, yeah,

1281
01:45:28,295 --> 01:45:31,295
Speaker 6: I do. I know the guys quite well. But also

1282
01:45:31,375 --> 01:45:34,735
Speaker 6: if you tell me the address, I can go to

1283
01:45:34,975 --> 01:45:39,135
Speaker 6: Razine Construction, who supervise these jobs, provide the product, and

1284
01:45:39,255 --> 01:45:42,095
Speaker 6: they've got records of it. And so that's exactly what

1285
01:45:42,215 --> 01:45:46,695
Speaker 6: I did, quite genuinely. What I was surprised about was

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Speaker 6: the level of detail held by the manufacturer, let's say

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Speaker 6: Razine Construction, about each individual job that they do. Because

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Speaker 6: the only way you can do rock coat is by

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Speaker 6: using a licensed applicator. They then have detailed processes to

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01:46:08,815 --> 01:46:14,375
Speaker 6: record every step of that job. Flashings, installation, cavity batons,

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Speaker 6: type of fixings, whether or not they've sealed the cuts,

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Speaker 6: all of these sorts of things is all recorded and

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Speaker 6: it was all available, so I could phone this gentleman

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Speaker 6: back later in the day and so, yeah, I've seen

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Speaker 6: the records, don't have a problem with it. So a

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Speaker 6: person who runs all of this is Mike Olds, and Mike,

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Speaker 6: thanks for your time on Wednesday.

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Speaker 10: So you know what I was.

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Speaker 6: It's not completely surprising, but I was still quite impressed,

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Speaker 6: to be honest, about the level of detail that you

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Speaker 6: guys at Reseen Construction hold about every single clouding job

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Speaker 6: that you do. And this is obviously something that you've

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Speaker 6: built up over time. So that's the process and it

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Speaker 6: every single job gets recorded.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, Pete, And it was it was a sort

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01:46:58,975 --> 01:47:03,855
Speaker 10: of perfect scenario when the person that contacted you wanted

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01:47:03,895 --> 01:47:06,095
Speaker 10: to know some information and normally, as I think we spoke,

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Speaker 10: the vendor would normally have a lot of information for

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Speaker 10: potential purchases, and this particular project in christ Church, yeah,

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Speaker 10: you gave us the address and if it's one of

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Speaker 10: our systems. I mean a lot of people, a lot

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Speaker 10: of projects would potentially have a specification on a project,

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Speaker 10: but sometimes that specification doesn't get achieved.

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Speaker 9: So we do we do it a get tin calls and.

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Speaker 10: People saying I've got your clouding system on our home,

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Speaker 10: but I want to see if it's in the system,

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Speaker 10: and if it's not in the system, we can generally

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Speaker 10: say that possibly the even the specification has been changed

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Speaker 10: and it's unbeknown to the original owners or even potential purchases.

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Speaker 10: But part of our process, and it started way back

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Speaker 10: and I think two thousand and five we really got

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Speaker 10: into this, and it involves a substrate review on all

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Speaker 10: residential projects where we go and check the cavity bats,

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Speaker 10: the flashings and this photographic evidence. There's a checklist that

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Speaker 10: we go through and then we go through and do

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Speaker 10: a final review in terms of workmanship, detailing other subtrades.

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Speaker 10: The first one is probably the most important though in

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Speaker 10: terms of the substrate install that deals with other sub

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Speaker 10: trades and pipe penetrations, electrical penetrations, root flashing connections where

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Speaker 10: we connect with other other trades as well, because you

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Speaker 10: generally find where there's connections with other trades, they don't

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Speaker 10: they do their trade and we do our trade, but

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Speaker 10: there's there is definite crossovers and that's that's some of

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Speaker 10: our biggest focus focus areas. But it stays on that

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Speaker 10: file on that particular project goes through for the for

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Speaker 10: the life of the project, and it's always available. We

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Speaker 10: also it also flows through in terms of the warranties,

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Speaker 10: so that whole documentation package. Then we send that out

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Speaker 10: to the clients. Then in seven seven years we actually

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Speaker 10: touch base with that particular residence are known. If it's

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Speaker 10: the same home for the original owner, we send them

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Speaker 10: some messaging around starting to budget for general maintenance purposes,

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Speaker 10: looking at repaint and all that sort of good stuff.

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Speaker 10: So we sort of customers for life is probably the

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Speaker 10: best way to describe it. And it gives us because

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Speaker 10: you never remember everything. You know, you should look back

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Speaker 10: at a job you did fifteen twenty years ago and

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Speaker 10: trying to recall A who did the job, and b

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Speaker 10: what was the color, what was the finish? All of

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Speaker 10: those sorts of things just coming very very handy down

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Speaker 10: the track, and you've got a really really good record.

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Speaker 6: And it was the level of detail that in the

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Speaker 6: recording that really again really impressed me in the sense

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Speaker 6: that you know, there's a tremendous surety for a homeowner

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Speaker 6: many years later. So this is a person, this house

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Speaker 6: was built in twenty twelve, all of those records existed,

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Speaker 6: this person's interested to know, you know, who did the work,

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Speaker 6: was it done well? Is there a record of the

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Speaker 6: actual the installation? And you know, how do I know

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Speaker 6: that the flashings were installed all of these sorts of

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Speaker 6: things and you can find it. And the other thing

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Speaker 6: I guess that I'm thinking about is that you know,

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Speaker 6: potentially we're going to move towards a situation where more

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Speaker 6: dwellings can be built without necessarily requiring a council consent.

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Speaker 6: Therefore you're not having council inspectors. And if you're going

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Speaker 6: to own one of those properties, how do you know

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Speaker 6: that the work has been done well? And that level

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Speaker 6: of reporting and review is kind of like a template

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Speaker 6: for what we might see in the future for all

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Speaker 6: sorts of building performance systems.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I absolutely absolutely think this is this is the

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Speaker 10: this is the bar for particularly for supplies, to go

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Speaker 10: yeah and say this is this is the expectation, because

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's reasonable for manufacturers by and large

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Speaker 10: to say we understand that the materials have been supplied

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Speaker 10: and installed in accordance because we generally get the first

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Speaker 10: phone call if there is ever an issue, and if

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Speaker 10: you're just reliant on just supply and not taking into

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Speaker 10: regard the skill and the competencies of the people that

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Speaker 10: are installing your products.

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Speaker 9: Then yeah, it.

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Speaker 10: A really big gap. And I think this is something

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Speaker 10: that's just so normal for our business and our contractors,

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Speaker 10: our LBP contractor network, that it's a great practice and

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Speaker 10: process for them as well. You know, we've got it

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Speaker 10: to the stage. We've actually got it to the stage

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Speaker 10: now where all the LVP contractors can undertake and do

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Speaker 10: these reviews with the digital information photography, all the checks

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Speaker 10: and balances themselves on single story dwellings. You know, they

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Speaker 10: go through and do that when we get into the

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Speaker 10: more complex projects we get involved. So yeah, it's pretty

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Speaker 10: comprehensive and it's a good backup and it saves a

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Speaker 10: lot of racking the brain in terms of memories of

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Speaker 10: what actually happened and who did what.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 10: They also they also put notes on the project files

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Speaker 10: just in terms of conversations that have been held about

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Speaker 10: someone said this or someone said that. You know, there's

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Speaker 10: a numbumber of things, so I can avoid those types

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Speaker 10: of you know that he said, he said absolutely his time,

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Speaker 10: So yeah, it really really worthwhile.

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Speaker 6: I really appreciate your time. This morning, We're going to

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Speaker 6: rush for the news. Good luck with the golf today.

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Speaker 6: He's not playing, he's looking after his boy's playing. We'll

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Speaker 6: come back and talk a little bit more about all

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Speaker 6: things building and construction straight after the news, sport and

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Speaker 6: weather here at News Talk Seed.

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Speaker 25: B USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

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Speaker 6: Righty, Oh, welcome back to the show. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will

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Speaker 6: take your building questions right through till eight thirty. Then

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Speaker 6: we're into the garden with Rod Climb past as always

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Speaker 6: at around eight thirty this morning. Just a heads up

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Speaker 6: too next week on the show. At this time Ben Thompson,

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Speaker 6: who is a lawyer who specializes in cross leases and

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Speaker 6: property law in general, but cross leases very particularly, will

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Speaker 6: be available and we're going to We've had a conversation

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Speaker 6: with him before just kind of general stuff about cross leases.

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Speaker 6: But we'll cover the same topic next week on the show.

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Speaker 6: But you can text a new question, so if you've

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Speaker 6: got specific questions about your cross lease or a cross

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Speaker 6: lease that you're involved with, then fire them through. We'll

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Speaker 6: do that next Sunday on the show. And my thanks

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Speaker 6: again to Mikeel's from Razine Construction Systems for making himself

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Speaker 6: available just before again, following on from this completely random

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Speaker 6: conversation I had with someone the other day, rang me

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Speaker 6: and said, look, I'm interested in this property. I'm about

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Speaker 6: to buy it. They're an older couple looking for a

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Speaker 6: retirement sort of property, low maintenance, single level, all of

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Speaker 6: those sorts of things, and said, do you know much

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Speaker 6: about the clouding system? And so when I rang Mike,

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Speaker 6: all of the records was there. And what struck me,

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Speaker 6: particularly at a time where there's a lot of discussion

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Speaker 6: now about government allowing up to seventy square meters of

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Speaker 6: building to be granny flats to be constructed without necessarily

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Speaker 6: requiring a building consent, which means, how do you know

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Speaker 6: you've got a good building right? Because typically the default

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Speaker 6: position has been well, you get a building consent and

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Speaker 6: because a council inspector comes out and has a look

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Speaker 6: at it, you feel confident that the building, once it's

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Speaker 6: got its final inspection, got a code of compliance, is

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Speaker 6: going to be okay, it's going to comply with the code.

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Speaker 6: So if we're not going to have counsel there as

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Speaker 6: the gatekeeper, let's say to compliance, how do you know

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Speaker 6: it's going to comply?

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Speaker 23: And then it.

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Speaker 6: Shifts the responsibility, let's say, on to individual contractors or

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Speaker 6: suppliers of materials to say, look, I think it's it's okay.

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Speaker 5: How do you know.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's where you need good systems and checks and

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Speaker 6: reviews and paperwork basically to ensure that compliance. And these

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Speaker 6: guys are they've been doing it for twenty years, so

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Speaker 6: good on them. I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 6: Apparently someone else text through and said, look, we do

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Speaker 6: a similar sort of system and we've got these certified

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Speaker 6: contractors to do the work. So a lot of these

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Speaker 6: products and I went to buy something a little while ago,

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Speaker 6: waterproofing product, and they said, ah, you're licensed applicator and

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Speaker 6: I said no, I'm not, and they said, we're not

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Speaker 6: going to sell it to you. That's fine, It's absolutely fine.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're going to have a product that

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Speaker 6: is going to be critical to the building performance, some

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Speaker 6: of those products will then only be sold to people

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Speaker 6: who are licensed to install them. And I think that's

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Speaker 6: a sensible safeguard. Quick text as well, can you please

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Speaker 6: ask your rock coat specialist what painting system is required

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Speaker 6: for upkeep? How often should it be repainted? Typically you

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Speaker 6: know houses should be washed every year anyway, And in

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Speaker 6: terms of recoat for razine construction or for rock coat,

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Speaker 6: I think the recommendation is sort of six to seven years,

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Speaker 6: and it'll be razine X two hundred for the top coat.

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Speaker 6: Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's get amongst it, Roger,

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Speaker 6: good morning.

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Speaker 22: Morning, morning, thanks, no problem.

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Speaker 20: On the topic of birds, Yes, under eaves, I've got

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Speaker 20: a large covered deck. When we moved into the house,

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Speaker 20: there was a couple of pairs of birds that were

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Speaker 20: determined to put their nests there. After knocking the nests

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Speaker 20: down a few times, realized that wasn't working. Long story short,

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Speaker 20: I climbed up a ladder and one I put a

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Speaker 20: round a tennis ball another one I stuck a lemon

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Speaker 20: and filled the nest up with a foreign body who

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Speaker 20: sat back and watched the birds come back. And they

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Speaker 20: were not happy. They perched on top of them for

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Speaker 20: a little while and made a lot of very upset noises. Basically,

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Speaker 20: I'm glad I didn't speak bird because it sounded like

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Speaker 20: they were swearing in about five different dialects. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 20: they were not happy, yes.

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Speaker 9: Oh yes.

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Speaker 20: Net result, they didn't come back they abandoned the location

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Speaker 20: as an unsuitable neighborhood. Following year, one of them tried again.

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Speaker 20: I did the same thing, and same result, and six

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Speaker 20: years I've never had a bird under any of the

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Speaker 20: eaves here.

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Speaker 6: Interesting, okay, because this was something. I went and washed

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Speaker 6: the deck down last week and in lo and behold.

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Speaker 6: I'm back there again the other day and I'm like,

1498
02:07:22,895 --> 02:07:25,615
Speaker 6: what the you know, it's all the bird poops back again.

1499
02:07:25,655 --> 02:07:27,175
Speaker 6: And then I look up and I think, oh, look

1500
02:07:27,175 --> 02:07:29,175
Speaker 6: at the little buggers. They're good on them. They got

1501
02:07:29,255 --> 02:07:31,055
Speaker 6: to find a home. Everybody's got to live somewhere. They're

1502
02:07:31,095 --> 02:07:32,655
Speaker 6: just not going to live at that place.

1503
02:07:33,055 --> 02:07:35,575
Speaker 20: So yeah, well you can keep knocking the nest down

1504
02:07:35,735 --> 02:07:37,975
Speaker 20: and they'll keep coming back. So I just made it

1505
02:07:38,055 --> 02:07:41,895
Speaker 20: so they decided themselves not to come here. I've told

1506
02:07:41,975 --> 02:07:44,855
Speaker 20: this to friends. They sort of like, yeah, give it

1507
02:07:44,935 --> 02:07:47,255
Speaker 20: a try. They did saw them a while later and

1508
02:07:47,295 --> 02:07:48,655
Speaker 20: they go, yeah, no more birds.

1509
02:07:49,575 --> 02:07:53,295
Speaker 6: Good stuff. I'm going to have a crack at using

1510
02:07:53,375 --> 02:07:56,935
Speaker 6: one of these gels that apparently dissuade the birds from

1511
02:07:57,055 --> 02:07:59,175
Speaker 6: coming back. So I got to clean the area thoroughly,

1512
02:07:59,295 --> 02:08:01,015
Speaker 6: knock the nest out, clean the area. So I'm going

1513
02:08:01,015 --> 02:08:04,335
Speaker 6: to do a bit of water blasting and then I

1514
02:08:04,855 --> 02:08:06,815
Speaker 6: will try this gel and we'll see how that goes.

1515
02:08:07,375 --> 02:08:09,735
Speaker 6: Appreciate the call, Roger, and thank you. We're on the

1516
02:08:09,775 --> 02:08:12,175
Speaker 6: same page and you're right the determination of birds to

1517
02:08:12,255 --> 02:08:15,495
Speaker 6: come back, and it took me about three years to

1518
02:08:16,175 --> 02:08:19,575
Speaker 6: beat them at my own place, where they were hopping

1519
02:08:19,655 --> 02:08:23,215
Speaker 6: into the spouting on the bullnose veranda and then ducking

1520
02:08:23,255 --> 02:08:27,055
Speaker 6: their heads underneath the corrugated iron, jumping up over the

1521
02:08:27,135 --> 02:08:29,735
Speaker 6: facerboard and into a little gap that was there a

1522
02:08:29,775 --> 02:08:32,695
Speaker 6: little sefite that ran around there and they were roosting

1523
02:08:32,855 --> 02:08:37,055
Speaker 6: in there, but they were very, very determined. Appreciate the call, Roger,

1524
02:08:37,095 --> 02:08:37,695
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

1525
02:08:37,815 --> 02:08:38,095
Speaker 8: Steve.

1526
02:08:38,215 --> 02:08:41,655
Speaker 6: Good morning, cad I Steve PHLLOI.

1527
02:08:42,895 --> 02:08:46,495
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, get hey, yeah, look I just got a question.

1528
02:08:48,495 --> 02:08:54,455
Speaker 11: Can I talk about the cross Lee's situation? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, okay,

1529
02:08:54,655 --> 02:08:58,095
Speaker 11: right right, Look, got this project and because I'm very

1530
02:08:58,135 --> 02:09:00,575
Speaker 11: interested in the hearing from is it.

1531
02:09:00,615 --> 02:09:03,295
Speaker 6: Ben at at the Yeah next week on the show.

1532
02:09:04,575 --> 02:09:09,415
Speaker 11: Is his last name Thompson is yep? Okay, good, hey listen,

1533
02:09:09,815 --> 02:09:13,055
Speaker 11: because look got the situation where we've got a house

1534
02:09:13,495 --> 02:09:16,455
Speaker 11: that's going to be demoed. It's a plaster house. And

1535
02:09:16,535 --> 02:09:20,775
Speaker 11: then rebuilt, right. And so the house is being designed

1536
02:09:21,335 --> 02:09:23,255
Speaker 11: and it's on the southern side. It's on a cross

1537
02:09:23,375 --> 02:09:27,455
Speaker 11: lease house section with the front house being a villa

1538
02:09:27,575 --> 02:09:31,735
Speaker 11: on the front. Now, the people on the front, the

1539
02:09:31,815 --> 02:09:34,815
Speaker 11: cross lease neighbors have to sign off on the new

1540
02:09:34,895 --> 02:09:38,215
Speaker 11: plans for the rebuilt of the house because of the

1541
02:09:38,375 --> 02:09:43,255
Speaker 11: you know what's required, and they are not wanting the

1542
02:09:43,375 --> 02:09:48,055
Speaker 11: rare property to have any windows on the northern face

1543
02:09:48,135 --> 02:09:53,575
Speaker 11: that's facing their house, right. And now, from my understanding,

1544
02:09:53,775 --> 02:09:57,535
Speaker 11: you can't object unreasonably. You have to be reasonable in

1545
02:09:57,615 --> 02:10:02,815
Speaker 11: your objections, right, And so they're only their concern is

1546
02:10:02,855 --> 02:10:06,935
Speaker 11: that they think the neighbors in the new house with

1547
02:10:07,055 --> 02:10:09,255
Speaker 11: the windows on at the moment, the house doesn't have

1548
02:10:09,815 --> 02:10:12,415
Speaker 11: it's more of a single level and a large roof,

1549
02:10:12,495 --> 02:10:14,495
Speaker 11: so all they're looking at the moment as a roof

1550
02:10:14,655 --> 02:10:17,095
Speaker 11: no windows. The new house will be a double level,

1551
02:10:17,415 --> 02:10:19,775
Speaker 11: it will have windows, and it'll have windows on the

1552
02:10:19,975 --> 02:10:23,055
Speaker 11: on that on the northern face that will peer into

1553
02:10:23,135 --> 02:10:25,975
Speaker 11: their backyard. But it's on the southern side, so the

1554
02:10:26,095 --> 02:10:29,695
Speaker 11: light's not being blocked at all, and the house hasn't

1555
02:10:29,695 --> 02:10:31,575
Speaker 11: even close to them, so it complies with all the

1556
02:10:31,655 --> 02:10:35,695
Speaker 11: other rigs The only objection is that they don't want

1557
02:10:35,735 --> 02:10:40,135
Speaker 11: any windows. They don't want any glass facing their backyard.

1558
02:10:40,575 --> 02:10:43,255
Speaker 6: And I would have thought that would be the questions.

1559
02:10:43,495 --> 02:10:44,535
Speaker 6: Is that reasonable?

1560
02:10:45,935 --> 02:10:49,215
Speaker 11: Yeah, you could understand if the house is blocking out

1561
02:10:49,295 --> 02:10:54,295
Speaker 11: some yu norther it's on the southern side, and the

1562
02:10:54,375 --> 02:10:56,455
Speaker 11: house is a fair ways back. It's actually ten meters

1563
02:10:56,455 --> 02:10:59,455
Speaker 11: back from the boundary, so it's not even close. The factors,

1564
02:11:00,015 --> 02:11:02,695
Speaker 11: they've just got this be in their bonnet. They've got

1565
02:11:02,855 --> 02:11:07,055
Speaker 11: their backyard at the moment, they don't have any The next.

1566
02:11:06,895 --> 02:11:11,015
Speaker 6: Question is going to be around how do you enforce reasonableness?

1567
02:11:13,095 --> 02:11:14,095
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what I like that.

1568
02:11:14,415 --> 02:11:17,415
Speaker 6: Yeah, but look I'm happy to keep a note of

1569
02:11:17,495 --> 02:11:19,975
Speaker 6: this and look, if you'd like to text through again

1570
02:11:20,055 --> 02:11:24,015
Speaker 6: next Sunday when Ben's actually available, that that would be

1571
02:11:24,055 --> 02:11:28,255
Speaker 6: a great question. But yeah, trying to enforce reasonableness. Gee,

1572
02:11:28,335 --> 02:11:30,735
Speaker 6: that's it's a tricky one, isn't it.

1573
02:11:30,855 --> 02:11:31,015
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1574
02:11:31,055 --> 02:11:33,375
Speaker 6: I mean we've all met people who are just downright

1575
02:11:33,495 --> 02:11:35,975
Speaker 6: wunery and just won't be reasonable.

1576
02:11:36,895 --> 02:11:39,775
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we're all a great question.

1577
02:11:39,935 --> 02:11:42,175
Speaker 11: We should be allowed to have your sunlight, right, you

1578
02:11:42,215 --> 02:11:44,295
Speaker 11: should be able to have your your son. Your neighbors

1579
02:11:44,295 --> 02:11:46,415
Speaker 11: shouldn't be able to tell you just because they're worried

1580
02:11:46,415 --> 02:11:49,735
Speaker 11: about it. You know, a few people peering out windows

1581
02:11:49,935 --> 02:11:50,455
Speaker 11: and look.

1582
02:11:50,535 --> 02:11:52,455
Speaker 6: I guess you know, listening to what you're saying. If

1583
02:11:52,495 --> 02:11:54,655
Speaker 6: it's ten meters away, then you could also do some

1584
02:11:54,775 --> 02:11:57,095
Speaker 6: planting on the boundary. It's not like it's one meter

1585
02:11:57,215 --> 02:11:59,695
Speaker 6: away and three meters up in the air and looking

1586
02:11:59,735 --> 02:12:03,855
Speaker 6: straight into there. So it would seem that there is

1587
02:12:03,975 --> 02:12:07,055
Speaker 6: some way of being a little bit reason around that.

1588
02:12:07,735 --> 02:12:11,775
Speaker 6: Really appreciate that. We'll put that to Ben Thompson who

1589
02:12:12,095 --> 02:12:15,615
Speaker 6: is from Pidgeon Judge Lawyers and a specialist in Crossley,

1590
02:12:15,695 --> 02:12:17,695
Speaker 6: so he's going to be available to answer some questions

1591
02:12:17,775 --> 02:12:20,535
Speaker 6: text questions next week on the show. Really looking forward

1592
02:12:20,575 --> 02:12:22,695
Speaker 6: to that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty would

1593
02:12:22,695 --> 02:12:24,735
Speaker 6: take a short break. We'll be back with Peter after

1594
02:12:24,815 --> 02:15:46,775
Speaker 6: the break. Now, if you're into DIY, and you're bound

1595
02:15:46,775 --> 02:15:49,535
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1596
02:15:49,735 --> 02:15:53,015
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1601
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1602
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Speaker 6: you get exactly what you want, choosing from over thirty

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1609
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1610
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Speaker 6: that you might need. Get the kitchen you want, design

1611
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1612
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Speaker 6: ingenuity that we all love. You do It, that's du

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Speaker 6: kitchens that do.

1614
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Speaker 10: It for you.

1615
02:16:57,215 --> 02:17:00,895
Speaker 6: You do It dot co dot NZ Newstalk said, b

1616
02:17:03,695 --> 02:17:06,775
Speaker 6: as it happens, I actually put in a you do

1617
02:17:06,895 --> 02:17:11,655
Speaker 6: It we did one Shivers. Might have been twenty fourteen.

1618
02:17:11,775 --> 02:17:14,775
Speaker 6: I was working for a client who had purchased a property.

1619
02:17:14,975 --> 02:17:18,615
Speaker 6: The kitchen was slightly outdated. They wanted to do something

1620
02:17:19,175 --> 02:17:22,495
Speaker 6: quickly to get it ready for them to move into,

1621
02:17:22,855 --> 02:17:26,335
Speaker 6: and I said to them, well, we'll give this, you

1622
02:17:26,455 --> 02:17:29,295
Speaker 6: do it a call and a try. So I ended

1623
02:17:29,375 --> 02:17:32,535
Speaker 6: up taking the measurements myself of the kitchen, chatting with

1624
02:17:32,615 --> 02:17:35,135
Speaker 6: the owner about what they wanted, ordered it. We put

1625
02:17:35,175 --> 02:17:38,695
Speaker 6: it in ourselves. Worked very well, I have to say,

1626
02:17:38,815 --> 02:17:41,335
Speaker 6: And funnily enough, I've been back at that house doing

1627
02:17:41,415 --> 02:17:44,415
Speaker 6: some more just regular maintenance work recently. Kitchen still they're

1628
02:17:44,415 --> 02:17:47,295
Speaker 6: still working fine. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1629
02:17:47,375 --> 02:17:50,455
Speaker 6: the number to call, just my own experience of it. Hey, Peter,

1630
02:17:50,575 --> 02:17:52,255
Speaker 6: good morning to you, and.

1631
02:17:52,335 --> 02:17:53,255
Speaker 14: Good morning Peter.

1632
02:17:53,415 --> 02:17:53,735
Speaker 5: Greeting.

1633
02:17:53,815 --> 02:17:57,375
Speaker 14: So we've got a small house that's been converted into

1634
02:17:58,575 --> 02:18:02,575
Speaker 14: a retail shop on the main road. The question I've

1635
02:18:02,615 --> 02:18:05,735
Speaker 14: got is does a Healthy Homes rules mean that we

1636
02:18:05,855 --> 02:18:08,415
Speaker 14: need to heat pump in that situation or is it

1637
02:18:08,655 --> 02:18:11,495
Speaker 14: just apply to accommodation.

1638
02:18:12,295 --> 02:18:14,935
Speaker 6: I would think it's only accommodation because essentially what it's

1639
02:18:14,975 --> 02:18:18,895
Speaker 6: about is the Healthy Homes requirements relate to It's part

1640
02:18:18,975 --> 02:18:23,055
Speaker 6: of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Act. So if it's not

1641
02:18:23,215 --> 02:18:28,895
Speaker 6: a residential tenancy, then it basically it's irrelevant. Right, So

1642
02:18:29,015 --> 02:18:32,575
Speaker 6: if you're using what was a residential property for a

1643
02:18:32,695 --> 02:18:35,655
Speaker 6: commercial purpose, a shop or an office or something like

1644
02:18:35,695 --> 02:18:39,015
Speaker 6: that then, No, I don't see how if there's no

1645
02:18:39,255 --> 02:18:42,135
Speaker 6: tenancy agreement in place, then I guess you don't need

1646
02:18:42,175 --> 02:18:43,695
Speaker 6: to apply with the healthy Home standards.

1647
02:18:44,415 --> 02:18:47,095
Speaker 14: That's what I thought. But someone suggested to me that

1648
02:18:47,215 --> 02:18:49,335
Speaker 14: the rules might have changed from one July.

1649
02:18:50,295 --> 02:18:50,335
Speaker 7: No.

1650
02:18:50,935 --> 02:18:52,655
Speaker 14: No, the Google I couldn't find anything.

1651
02:18:52,695 --> 02:18:52,855
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1652
02:18:52,935 --> 02:18:55,855
Speaker 6: No, what happened on the first of July is that

1653
02:18:56,375 --> 02:18:58,815
Speaker 6: this is a piece of legislation that's had a really

1654
02:18:58,935 --> 02:19:02,655
Speaker 6: long gestation, right, so it was signalled gosh, I think

1655
02:19:02,735 --> 02:19:06,375
Speaker 6: as far back as twenty seventeen. Then there was a

1656
02:19:06,455 --> 02:19:09,895
Speaker 6: whole series of deadlines. Certain types of dwellings needed to

1657
02:19:10,015 --> 02:19:13,375
Speaker 6: comply by certain dates, and then there were always exemptions. So,

1658
02:19:13,655 --> 02:19:16,255
Speaker 6: for example, if you had a sitting tenant in a property,

1659
02:19:16,615 --> 02:19:19,615
Speaker 6: and maybe they'd been there for five years, right, you

1660
02:19:19,735 --> 02:19:24,095
Speaker 6: didn't need to comply with the regulations until they moved

1661
02:19:24,135 --> 02:19:27,215
Speaker 6: out or until they renewed their tendancy. And if they

1662
02:19:27,335 --> 02:19:29,855
Speaker 6: just went onto a periodic, they wouldn't renew it, right.

1663
02:19:29,935 --> 02:19:35,095
Speaker 6: So so in effect, you might have had a long

1664
02:19:35,255 --> 02:19:39,455
Speaker 6: term tenant in a residential property up until the first

1665
02:19:39,535 --> 02:19:43,295
Speaker 6: of July, so six days ago that that building didn't

1666
02:19:43,295 --> 02:19:46,175
Speaker 6: need to comply because the tenant never moved out. That

1667
02:19:46,375 --> 02:19:49,615
Speaker 6: exemption has ended. Right, so from the first of July,

1668
02:19:49,935 --> 02:19:55,655
Speaker 6: every single residential property, including state houses, all need to

1669
02:19:55,735 --> 02:20:00,215
Speaker 6: comply with the healthy home standards from now. That's the

1670
02:20:00,375 --> 02:20:02,015
Speaker 6: change that you might have been talking about.

1671
02:20:02,895 --> 02:20:05,055
Speaker 14: Great listen, Thank you very much, my pleasure, all the.

1672
02:20:05,055 --> 02:20:08,855
Speaker 6: Best, pleasure, take care your new stalk seed b um.

1673
02:20:11,255 --> 02:20:14,535
Speaker 6: Oh good point. Just quick text. We were talking with

1674
02:20:14,735 --> 02:20:18,055
Speaker 6: Robin who's in an older sort of nineteen seventies house

1675
02:20:18,535 --> 02:20:22,655
Speaker 6: had some insulation, but insulation standards there were pretty poor,

1676
02:20:22,855 --> 02:20:26,975
Speaker 6: to be blunt to the lady who was asking about

1677
02:20:26,975 --> 02:20:29,695
Speaker 6: putting up bats on top of old bats, or more

1678
02:20:29,775 --> 02:20:32,015
Speaker 6: insulation over the existing one in her ceiling if she

1679
02:20:32,055 --> 02:20:34,455
Speaker 6: has a community services card. There are all sorts of

1680
02:20:34,535 --> 02:20:36,415
Speaker 6: government grants for that kind of stuff, and the cost

1681
02:20:36,575 --> 02:20:38,855
Speaker 6: is actually really cheap, and there are many companies that

1682
02:20:38,975 --> 02:20:42,415
Speaker 6: do it, and believe me, it's definitely worthwhile. Plus they'll

1683
02:20:42,495 --> 02:20:46,175
Speaker 6: also do underfloor insallation if possible, and the vapor barrier

1684
02:20:46,295 --> 02:20:49,695
Speaker 6: onto the floor from Ron. Thanks very much, and you're

1685
02:20:49,695 --> 02:20:54,655
Speaker 6: absolutely right. There's quite a lot of support available if

1686
02:20:54,695 --> 02:20:58,975
Speaker 6: you're in the right category for that. And you've got

1687
02:20:59,015 --> 02:21:03,895
Speaker 6: a hats off Taika, who run the Warmer Homes program

1688
02:21:04,535 --> 02:21:07,255
Speaker 6: the actual number of dwellings. And I was surprised by

1689
02:21:07,295 --> 02:21:09,575
Speaker 6: this because I talk about this quite a lot at

1690
02:21:10,015 --> 02:21:13,135
Speaker 6: different seminars and presentations and that sort of thing, and

1691
02:21:13,255 --> 02:21:16,455
Speaker 6: I had always assumed that there was a significant like

1692
02:21:16,735 --> 02:21:20,175
Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of New Zealand homes that are either

1693
02:21:20,295 --> 02:21:26,415
Speaker 6: completely uninsulated or poorly insulated. Talking with ECA who measure this,

1694
02:21:26,815 --> 02:21:29,015
Speaker 6: they actually think that the number of houses that are

1695
02:21:29,335 --> 02:21:34,175
Speaker 6: really poorly insulated is possibly down in the one hundred,

1696
02:21:34,215 --> 02:21:37,055
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty thousand dwellings. Now there's about two

1697
02:21:37,295 --> 02:21:41,375
Speaker 6: million dwellings in New Zealand, there's about five hundred it's

1698
02:21:41,375 --> 02:21:45,015
Speaker 6: almost six hundred thousand rental properties in New Zealand. So

1699
02:21:45,135 --> 02:21:48,415
Speaker 6: if we're down to a nub of about somewhere, be

1700
02:21:48,535 --> 02:21:51,895
Speaker 6: nice if it was zero. But realistically, there has been

1701
02:21:51,975 --> 02:21:55,255
Speaker 6: actually great progress for most of our housing stock to

1702
02:21:55,415 --> 02:21:59,135
Speaker 6: add some insulation where it's practical to do so, and

1703
02:21:59,215 --> 02:22:02,095
Speaker 6: that I think is a really really good thing. Oh,

1704
02:22:02,135 --> 02:22:04,215
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call, last

1705
02:22:04,255 --> 02:22:05,735
Speaker 6: call for the morning, Peter, Hello there.

1706
02:22:07,015 --> 02:22:12,295
Speaker 26: Hello, Just bringing up really on a tight budget, Yes,

1707
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Speaker 26: I really on a tighter budget.

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Speaker 9: What happened was.

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Speaker 26: A two massive holes in the war. What I did was,

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Speaker 26: being on the type budget, I had a block of wood.

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02:22:28,535 --> 02:22:31,375
Speaker 26: I placed the wood in the in the middle of

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02:22:31,495 --> 02:22:35,895
Speaker 26: the hole. And what I did was I nailed the

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02:22:36,255 --> 02:22:40,535
Speaker 26: wood into the whole winded. I placed a piece of

1714
02:22:42,255 --> 02:22:47,895
Speaker 26: two year car well paper. Well, you know, for exactly

1715
02:22:48,015 --> 02:22:49,695
Speaker 26: the same color as the war.

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02:22:50,615 --> 02:22:50,895
Speaker 10: It did.

1717
02:22:51,215 --> 02:22:54,335
Speaker 26: I placed father, because look, I'm on the type budget.

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02:22:55,335 --> 02:22:58,135
Speaker 26: Flower in water and one looks the flower up.

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02:22:59,735 --> 02:23:00,215
Speaker 20: It worked.

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02:23:00,535 --> 02:23:02,415
Speaker 26: It worked, honestly, it worked.

1721
02:23:03,255 --> 02:23:04,815
Speaker 6: Is it your own place, Peter, or is it a

1722
02:23:04,895 --> 02:23:05,895
Speaker 6: rented place that you're in?

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02:23:07,615 --> 02:23:12,455
Speaker 26: Well, apparently got the job done. Landlord came yet stay

1724
02:23:13,975 --> 02:23:15,495
Speaker 26: and he didn't know anything about it.

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02:23:15,895 --> 02:23:16,375
Speaker 6: They couldn't.

1726
02:23:16,375 --> 02:23:18,255
Speaker 9: He couldn't.

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02:23:19,375 --> 02:23:19,615
Speaker 11: Mate.

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02:23:19,655 --> 02:23:22,135
Speaker 6: If it works for you, it works for you, and

1729
02:23:22,615 --> 02:23:24,935
Speaker 6: maybe later on the landlord might want to take the

1730
02:23:24,975 --> 02:23:28,295
Speaker 6: flower out and put in some plaster or some jib

1731
02:23:28,815 --> 02:23:31,775
Speaker 6: compound or something like that. Appreciate the call. Eight hundred

1732
02:23:31,775 --> 02:23:34,175
Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call for

1733
02:23:34,535 --> 02:23:37,135
Speaker 6: rid climb pass because he is standing by. And just

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02:23:37,215 --> 02:23:40,375
Speaker 6: another quick reminder. So next week at this time, from

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02:23:40,535 --> 02:23:43,775
Speaker 6: eight to eight thirty, we'll have Ben Thompson, who's a

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02:23:43,815 --> 02:23:46,375
Speaker 6: lawyer who specializes in cross Lea's. I'm already getting a

1737
02:23:46,375 --> 02:23:49,615
Speaker 6: whole bunch of texts. You'll need to text in next

1738
02:23:49,695 --> 02:23:52,695
Speaker 6: week if you've got a specific question. And I think

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02:23:52,735 --> 02:23:55,495
Speaker 6: it's going to be a very very busy half hour

1740
02:23:55,575 --> 02:23:57,655
Speaker 6: on the show. So looking forward to that next week,

1741
02:23:57,895 --> 02:24:00,495
Speaker 6: looking forward to talking with Rud as well. And love

1742
02:24:00,615 --> 02:24:03,015
Speaker 6: the text that came in just a moment ago, so

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02:24:03,335 --> 02:24:07,175
Speaker 6: says the texter from last week's show with I've made

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02:24:07,295 --> 02:24:10,215
Speaker 6: a RUU box. Now could I ask where would be

1745
02:24:10,295 --> 02:24:12,295
Speaker 6: the best place to put it? We will answer that

1746
02:24:12,455 --> 02:24:15,215
Speaker 6: question and many more than just a moment back with

1747
02:24:15,295 --> 02:27:33,975
Speaker 6: through it after the break USA, right out it climb pass,

1748
02:27:34,015 --> 02:27:34,815
Speaker 6: Good morning, sir.

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02:27:36,695 --> 02:27:36,895
Speaker 12: Ah.

1750
02:27:37,135 --> 02:27:38,455
Speaker 6: Now we might have to bring him up on the

1751
02:27:38,535 --> 02:27:39,135
Speaker 6: disk lock.

1752
02:27:39,815 --> 02:27:43,095
Speaker 5: I think you better. Hey, you're better, because otherwise you

1753
02:27:43,135 --> 02:27:43,655
Speaker 5: can't hear him.

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02:27:44,175 --> 02:27:45,575
Speaker 6: I can hear you now, how are you mate?

1755
02:27:45,615 --> 02:27:47,455
Speaker 5: Good boy? I'm good, Thank you good excellent.

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02:27:47,815 --> 02:27:50,735
Speaker 27: Had a lovely, lovely week with Sir Peter Blake, trust

1757
02:27:51,375 --> 02:27:55,615
Speaker 27: that he teaches et cetera in their heaving reign of Auckland.

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02:27:55,695 --> 02:27:58,415
Speaker 5: As you can imagine, on Thursday.

1759
02:27:58,055 --> 02:28:00,575
Speaker 6: Was a really sure came down, didn't it?

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02:28:00,695 --> 02:28:03,335
Speaker 27: It came down? So here this is what happened. But

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02:28:03,375 --> 02:28:05,615
Speaker 27: I'll tell you this was this was actually quite amazing.

1762
02:28:06,095 --> 02:28:09,935
Speaker 27: We weren't quite sure how much the rain was going

1763
02:28:10,015 --> 02:28:12,655
Speaker 27: to interfere. You know, I'm being nasty. No, I'm being nasty,

1764
02:28:12,735 --> 02:28:15,215
Speaker 27: you know what I mean. It was awful, So we

1765
02:28:15,335 --> 02:28:20,175
Speaker 27: went to Taughranewie for a walk. We arrived there later

1766
02:28:20,815 --> 02:28:23,335
Speaker 27: it was still not raining. Even it is crazy, but

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02:28:23,455 --> 02:28:25,775
Speaker 27: of course the moment we started going, ten minutes later

1768
02:28:25,775 --> 02:28:28,935
Speaker 27: a warpo it came down and that was really tricky.

1769
02:28:29,015 --> 02:28:31,055
Speaker 27: So the whole team was and we had two teams

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02:28:31,095 --> 02:28:33,775
Speaker 27: of fifteen, which was good, and we shifted halfway through,

1771
02:28:34,295 --> 02:28:36,455
Speaker 27: so we were going anyway, and it was it was

1772
02:28:36,535 --> 02:28:39,095
Speaker 27: getting worse and worse and worse and worse, and I thought,

1773
02:28:39,135 --> 02:28:41,535
Speaker 27: I've got to do something here at tougher Anwie. So

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02:28:42,055 --> 02:28:44,935
Speaker 27: we went into the major wonderful forest that's there. There's

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02:28:45,015 --> 02:28:48,375
Speaker 27: the last remaining bit of forest. And I started looking

1776
02:28:48,455 --> 02:28:52,335
Speaker 27: into in little hollow logs that I know quite often

1777
02:28:52,415 --> 02:28:55,855
Speaker 27: had a really cool cave weather.

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02:28:56,855 --> 02:28:57,535
Speaker 26: So I go up.

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02:28:57,615 --> 02:28:59,695
Speaker 27: I had a look and with my little head torch

1780
02:28:59,815 --> 02:29:03,575
Speaker 27: on in that little in that log was a female

1781
02:29:03,735 --> 02:29:09,055
Speaker 27: Kiwi sleeping and I just I was stound at. I thought,

1782
02:29:09,135 --> 02:29:11,575
Speaker 27: this is kind of I got them all to have

1783
02:29:11,655 --> 02:29:15,815
Speaker 27: a quick look, very quiet, and SKII sticks his big

1784
02:29:15,895 --> 02:29:18,375
Speaker 27: bill out and looks at everybody, what are you doing here?

1785
02:29:19,455 --> 02:29:21,895
Speaker 5: But it was just one of those moments that you go,

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02:29:22,615 --> 02:29:25,135
Speaker 5: this is our hero, this is how it works.

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02:29:26,295 --> 02:29:29,975
Speaker 6: But you know, and also you know risk of repeata.

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02:29:30,175 --> 02:29:32,935
Speaker 6: I think what's really exciting is we're starting to see

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02:29:34,095 --> 02:29:36,535
Speaker 6: could you're saying, nature fighting back, like we're giving it

1790
02:29:36,575 --> 02:29:40,255
Speaker 6: a fighting chance, right, getting rid of the pests, providing environments,

1791
02:29:40,415 --> 02:29:44,215
Speaker 6: and and I guess nature is responding. And suddenly, you know,

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02:29:44,255 --> 02:29:46,215
Speaker 6: I was talking to the gentleman who was doing the

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02:29:46,295 --> 02:29:49,735
Speaker 6: overnight you know he's taken upon himself to rid his

1794
02:29:49,935 --> 02:29:52,135
Speaker 6: particular area of hedchhogs. He says, you know what I've

1795
02:29:52,215 --> 02:29:55,015
Speaker 6: noticed now is suddenly the get gos are back and

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02:29:55,135 --> 02:29:57,975
Speaker 6: the wetters are back, and you know there's there's all

1797
02:29:58,055 --> 02:30:01,975
Speaker 6: this other wildlife, this indigenous wildlife that's responding and flourishing

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02:30:02,135 --> 02:30:02,775
Speaker 6: as a result.

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02:30:03,335 --> 02:30:04,775
Speaker 5: That's exactly what it's about.

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02:30:05,935 --> 02:30:07,935
Speaker 6: It does work, that's the thing. You know, if we

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02:30:08,055 --> 02:30:10,375
Speaker 6: do the work, there will be a benefit.

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02:30:11,015 --> 02:30:13,335
Speaker 27: And Tafarnui is always the place where we go and

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02:30:14,255 --> 02:30:17,815
Speaker 27: you always see something unexpected fantastic.

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02:30:17,935 --> 02:30:20,735
Speaker 6: Now that the text came in earlier, someone's getting a

1805
02:30:20,815 --> 02:30:23,375
Speaker 6: hit of the game. So last week's show, the person

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02:30:23,535 --> 02:30:26,335
Speaker 6: was listening and they've gone out. They've made a ru box.

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02:30:26,975 --> 02:30:29,335
Speaker 6: Where should Where is the best place for them to

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02:30:29,455 --> 02:30:29,735
Speaker 6: put it?

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02:30:30,735 --> 02:30:30,935
Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 27: In in a quiet spot if you like that. There

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02:30:34,775 --> 02:30:39,935
Speaker 27: tends to be a really good answer. Dark, quiet, sheltered

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02:30:40,055 --> 02:30:43,335
Speaker 27: area if you like, near the roof of a shad

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02:30:43,415 --> 02:30:45,175
Speaker 27: or a barn, if you have that sort of thing.

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02:30:45,335 --> 02:30:48,735
Speaker 27: We otherwi was in a nice dense tree, but away

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02:30:48,855 --> 02:30:50,695
Speaker 27: from areas where predators can.

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02:30:50,655 --> 02:30:52,775
Speaker 5: Muck around, bossoms and all that sort of nonsense.

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Speaker 27: There's another thing you can do is, of course, you

1818
02:30:55,975 --> 02:30:58,055
Speaker 27: can put a metal strip around a tree trunk that

1819
02:30:58,175 --> 02:31:00,615
Speaker 27: you hang it in so nobody can climb up that

1820
02:31:00,775 --> 02:31:03,735
Speaker 27: sort of stuff. But yeah, nice quiet place and not

1821
02:31:04,055 --> 02:31:06,575
Speaker 27: in full sunlight people, because during the day it can

1822
02:31:06,615 --> 02:31:07,575
Speaker 27: get quite hot there.

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, great advice, Thank you very much. Right, if

1824
02:31:11,215 --> 02:31:13,215
Speaker 6: you've got a question for it, give us a call. Oh,

1825
02:31:13,255 --> 02:31:16,095
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

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Speaker 15: Hollo film Morning Morning Route. Hey bamboo, same old question,

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02:31:21,895 --> 02:31:24,655
Speaker 15: got a bank full of bamboo? Is it possible? To

1828
02:31:25,135 --> 02:31:26,895
Speaker 15: cut it and spray it, or just spray it and

1829
02:31:26,975 --> 02:31:29,255
Speaker 15: say two, or are your best just to try and

1830
02:31:29,295 --> 02:31:31,495
Speaker 15: pull it all out all of the above.

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02:31:32,375 --> 02:31:34,735
Speaker 27: Pulling it all out, No, no, but pulling it all

1832
02:31:34,815 --> 02:31:38,335
Speaker 27: out is a really hard job because that root, those

1833
02:31:38,455 --> 02:31:40,175
Speaker 27: roots go deep and far.

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02:31:40,415 --> 02:31:42,695
Speaker 5: They run around like idiots.

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02:31:42,895 --> 02:31:43,135
Speaker 9: They do.

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02:31:43,575 --> 02:31:44,655
Speaker 5: So this is the idea.

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02:31:44,815 --> 02:31:46,575
Speaker 27: This is what I used to well, first of all,

1838
02:31:46,615 --> 02:31:49,015
Speaker 27: when I was in meadow bank, this is what I

1839
02:31:49,175 --> 02:31:51,935
Speaker 27: used to do. I had a bamboo if you like,

1840
02:31:52,215 --> 02:31:55,255
Speaker 27: a shelter fence if you like, almost and on the

1841
02:31:55,335 --> 02:31:59,215
Speaker 27: outside of defense, I dug with the ditch witcher a

1842
02:32:00,095 --> 02:32:05,615
Speaker 27: fifty sixty meters deep gully around that particular.

1843
02:32:06,815 --> 02:32:07,095
Speaker 5: Trench.

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02:32:07,255 --> 02:32:11,375
Speaker 27: Because it doesn't the roots don't want to cross those trenches.

1845
02:32:11,415 --> 02:32:13,935
Speaker 27: They don't want to go through open trenches. You leave

1846
02:32:14,015 --> 02:32:17,015
Speaker 27: it opened for years, if you like, and it can't

1847
02:32:17,415 --> 02:32:20,375
Speaker 27: get it can't escape that way. So that is one

1848
02:32:20,455 --> 02:32:25,015
Speaker 27: way of doing it without pisticides. The other one isn't

1849
02:32:25,175 --> 02:32:26,575
Speaker 27: is actually what I came to.

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02:32:26,735 --> 02:32:27,215
Speaker 7: In the end.

1851
02:32:27,975 --> 02:32:31,615
Speaker 27: When you get the new bamboos coming up from the ground,

1852
02:32:32,415 --> 02:32:34,735
Speaker 27: you literally let it go to maybe a foot high,

1853
02:32:35,335 --> 02:32:40,295
Speaker 27: and you get some really good uh weat killer if

1854
02:32:40,335 --> 02:32:44,335
Speaker 27: you like that you can paint you got it?

1855
02:32:44,495 --> 02:32:46,695
Speaker 5: Ametrol that's probably my best one.

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02:32:47,575 --> 02:32:49,655
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, that sounds like the best way to do it.

1857
02:32:49,735 --> 02:32:50,735
Speaker 7: Then it is.

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02:32:50,935 --> 02:32:52,535
Speaker 27: And you will go and you will find that the

1859
02:32:52,575 --> 02:32:54,935
Speaker 27: emetrol will then go back into the root zone and

1860
02:32:55,055 --> 02:32:56,815
Speaker 27: will kill the roots slowly.

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02:32:57,175 --> 02:32:58,215
Speaker 5: But surely.

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02:32:59,695 --> 02:33:00,455
Speaker 10: That's the one for me.

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02:33:00,615 --> 02:33:08,135
Speaker 15: Look, thanks, Ruth, I know, I.

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Speaker 6: Know, yeah and everyone. Then you hear someone who goes, oh, look,

1865
02:33:11,815 --> 02:33:14,415
Speaker 6: I've just planted some bamboo. Yeah, it's only little, it'll

1866
02:33:14,455 --> 02:33:20,415
Speaker 6: be fine. Yeah, give it some time, mate. Now someone,

1867
02:33:22,215 --> 02:33:25,775
Speaker 6: I've grown an avocado from seed. It's had its first fruit.

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02:33:25,895 --> 02:33:28,135
Speaker 6: What is a good food for it? From Simon.

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