1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Devin Gray, UK correspondents with us Elogevin Hi there right. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: So no civilian drone flights in Dean mac. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: No, not for at least three days. And this is 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: all part of what's been going on with drone incursions 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: from we don't know whom, but the fingers being pointed 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: in Russia over not just Denmark but other countries as well. 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: And so Denmark is one of several countries now reporting 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: these drone incidents as recently as Saturday, this time the 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: most serious drone incursions over their airspace because they flew 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: over Danish military sites and they had to shut the 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: airspace because they couldn't shoot them down because they're in 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: densely populated areas. So today ten EU countries are sending 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: their defense ministers for a summit in order to create 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: what they're saying is a drone wall. So lots of 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: countries now looking at basically enhanced vigilance. They're saying across 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: the Baltic in the statement, and before this meeting, the 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: police in Denmark's and they're on significantly increased alert ahead 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: of the summit and they needed to take care of 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: Danes and our guests. Now anyone court flying a drone 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: or could face a fine or up to two years imprisonment. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: And both Sweden and France are sending military equipment and 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: anti drone capabilities to Denmark and Baltic neighbors, including what 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: are said to be powerful radar systems, in order to 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: help them monitor the drones but also to prevent them 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: getting anywhere in the first instance. And it's not just 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: as I mentioned Denmark, it's also other countries Norways had 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: drone incursions. And when you add to the fact as 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: well that make thirty five Russian five to jets have 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: flown over Estonia, twenty Russian drones entered into Polish airspace, 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: it gives you an idea of the frenzied nervousness of 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: many European leaders. 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Hey, how long did this political staffer in Germany get 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: in jail for spying? 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Four years and nine It's an extraordinary story because jianzou 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: Is his name, had worked in Brussels, the heart of 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: the European Union machinery as it were, for an alternative 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: for Deutschland far right German politician. He was Maximilian Crew 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: as a member of the European Parliament five years and 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: the court in Eastern Germany dressed and heard how Kral's 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: former aid had gathered information and passed on confidential documents 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: to Chinese authorities. Interestingly, he was also accused of spying 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: on Chinese dissidents in Germany and opposition figures too. The 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: court in Dressed had said it was particularly serious case, 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: although in his trial the accused said he was not guilty, 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: said he did not work for Chinese intelligence agency and 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: said I am innocent. So yeah, an interesting case and 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: one being mirrored I think by other cases currently going 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: through the courts in other EU countries. 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Listen, are the cops into this idea of getting people 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: to knack on each other and behind the wheel. 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's more, they're not being needing to get 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: much encouragement. So now it's estimated one in three British 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: cars has a dash cam, in other words, a little 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: camera switched on permanently when you're driving that looks forward 55 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: and sometimes backwards. And they have proven to be incredibly 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: useful when saying, look, this accident was not my fault 57 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: and here is the proof. But not just that. Now 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: the police are receiving clips from dashcam footage that people 59 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: are sending them saying this person driving in front of 60 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: me drove like an idiot and he should be prosecuted, 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: and surprise, surprise, that police are taking these clips and prosecuting. 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: There's been an increase in the number of videos being 63 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: sent to the police of fifty five percent in the 64 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: last two years. So indeed, last couple of years, two 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand clips have been sent. Almost one 66 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: in five ended with police for sending the driver of 67 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: the car being filmed a fixed penalty, About one in 68 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: three submissions prompted official warnings, about one in eight requiring 69 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: drivers to attend retraining courses, and about one in twenty 70 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: leading to court prosecutions. The Internet is dubbing these people 71 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: dash cam snitches, because they're saying, you know, you're not police, 72 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be filming, et cetera, et cetera, but because 73 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: they can film, and dangerous driving is dangerous driving, and 74 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: so consequently the police are yeah encouraging this, and other 75 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: drivers are too. Incidentally, some insurance companies now are pretty 76 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: much insisting that dashcam footage's. Dashcam cameras are being fitted 77 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: to cars just for this very reason, to say, look, 78 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: this driver, this client of ours was not to blame 79 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: for the accident. We're not paying this other driver and 80 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: their insurance are very interesting, Kevin. 81 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Kevin Gray, UK correspondent. Rot for more 82 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: from Hither duplessy Lan Drive, Listen live to news talks 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the pont 84 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: cast on iHeartRadio.