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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and Bputt dot co dot

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Speaker 1: inst for high quality supplements News Talk said B.

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Speaker 2: Yellow to New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to news

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Speaker 2: talks be on. Jack Tamee with you through to midday today.

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Speaker 2: Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer

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Speaker 2: by this sun of York. If you like me just

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Speaker 2: a bit of a culture vulture, you will of course

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Speaker 2: immediately recognize the unique words of the Bard himself, and

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Speaker 2: we are leaning into the culture vulture vibe a little

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Speaker 2: bit on News Talks EDB this morning. We're talking Shakespeare,

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Speaker 2: of all things on news Talks EDB. Although to be

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Speaker 2: fear and not Shakespeare as you know him. We're thinking

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Speaker 2: a reimagining of Shakespeare, a nineteen sixties version of Romeo

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Speaker 2: and Juliet. We're going to be speaking with the creators

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Speaker 2: and stars after ten o'clock this morning. Before ten. If

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Speaker 2: the Bard and Shakespeare himself is enough to get your

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Speaker 2: cultural juices flowing, maybe Jurassic World Rebirth will be the

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Speaker 2: fix you need. Our film reviewers being to say it,

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Speaker 2: so she's gonna give us her thoughts on that. Plus

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Speaker 2: cannot believe this result overnight. Just in a remarkable result

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Speaker 2: of first thing this morning, the New Zealand men's under

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Speaker 2: nineteen basketball team are heading to the semi finals of

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Speaker 2: the World Championships after comfortably defeating Switzerland this morning. This

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Speaker 2: really is an incredible achievement. So we'll get our sporto

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Speaker 2: to put that in context context very shortly. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it is eight minutes past nine, Jack team. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: so far as All Blacks tests go, this is it's

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Speaker 2: like a little bit of a funny one, right if

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Speaker 2: you were just weighing the odds on paper, I suppose

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Speaker 2: there is good reason why you might favor Leblin. I

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Speaker 2: hadn't actually realized it until this week. But we're coming

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Speaker 2: off a three game losing streak against the French, and

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Speaker 2: you remember last year's first All Blacks test and Dunedin

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Speaker 2: was a nail biting one point victory. The All Blacks

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Speaker 2: didn't scream cohesion for their first test under Razor. Add

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Speaker 2: to that the fact I still don't think we have

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Speaker 2: an emphatic answer for who should start at ten and

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Speaker 2: two bo Ai. Surely one of the world's best locks

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Speaker 2: is starting as blindside flanker tonight. And yet, and yet

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Speaker 2: the French are playing eight debutantes and have left a

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Speaker 2: slab of their elite stars back home. If it were

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Speaker 2: any other Test nation, I think New Zealand Rugby would

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Speaker 2: have the right to kick up a bit of a fuss,

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Speaker 2: a bit of a stink about the whole situation. But

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Speaker 2: given the French, and given the French history of spirited

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Speaker 2: unpredictability on the rugby football pitch, it probably makes sense

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Speaker 2: to secure a dominant victory before moaning about the standard

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Speaker 2: of the opposition. Don't you think you can just imagine it,

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Speaker 2: can't you? Like, no sooner would we lodge a formal

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Speaker 2: complaint than a French rugby team with a prop at

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Speaker 2: first five eight, or a winger throwing the line outs,

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Speaker 2: would intercept an errant pass in the eighty fourth minute,

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Speaker 2: or you know, accidentally charged down the match winning clearance

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Speaker 2: kick with their replacement fullbacks face and a freak moment

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Speaker 2: of sporting brilliance to pip the All Blacks for yet

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Speaker 2: another famous victory. An all backs test is an all

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Speaker 2: backs test in the first of the season always gets

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Speaker 2: me fizzing. But truthfully, I realized that I had crossed

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Speaker 2: a curious little rubicon of sorts this week when I

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Speaker 2: noted in myself an even greater sense of excitement about

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Speaker 2: a completely different gallic endeavor which happens to coincide with

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Speaker 2: tonight's test. The Tour de France kicks off tonight, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but over the last

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Speaker 2: the international sporting calendar. I think it's the kind of

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Speaker 2: The romance and the agony are just so alluring that

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Speaker 2: you know, the way that writers slowly decay before your

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Speaker 2: eyes over the three weeks and over more than three

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Speaker 2: thousand kilometers, The way that teams have to work to

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Speaker 2: Tour de France. But I don't know. Maybe it was

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Speaker 2: that's my pick. I reckon the All Blacks are well

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Speaker 2: guaranteed sporting drama, hang around just a few more hours

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Speaker 2: tonight for stage one of the tour. You will not

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Speaker 2: be disappointed. Team ninety two. Ninety two is our text number.

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Speaker 2: If you want to send me a message this morning,

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Speaker 2: you can email me as well. Of course. Jacket News

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Speaker 2: Talk was dB dot dot inz and we have the

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Speaker 2: perfect accompaniment for the game tonight. If you're looking for

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Speaker 2: a little sweet treat, maybe to get you through a

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Speaker 2: few nervous minutes when the All Blacks in the French

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Speaker 2: kick off in Dunedin. This evening. We have a delicious

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Speaker 2: chocolate moose recipe this year before ten o'clock, so our

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Speaker 2: here next though, to kick off our Saturday Morning together,

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tae. It's thirteen minutes past nine, and this

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Speaker 3: He'd be no bit of way to kick off your

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Speaker 3: weekend then with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepwart on co dot

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Speaker 2: Edb called to past nine or sixteen minutes past nine

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Speaker 2: on News Talks. Heb just gone sixteen minutes past on

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Speaker 2: your Saturday Morning with Jack Tame through the midday today,

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Speaker 2: we're notching up a bit of a first this morning

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Speaker 2: on News Talks. He'd be over the years. On Saturday

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Speaker 2: Mornings Together, we have broadcasts from all sorts of remarkable places.

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Speaker 2: We're broadcast from casinos in Las Vegas. We're broadcast from Wales,

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Speaker 2: from Spain, from all around the world. But I think

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Speaker 2: Costa Rica, of all places. Here's the thing, right, I

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Speaker 2: taking the new baby over so that grandparents and great

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Speaker 2: and I thought, what more relaxing option could there be

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Speaker 2: So I'm trying that at the moment. It has actually

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Speaker 2: which was all my fault according to my wife. So

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Speaker 2: now it's seventeen past nine and time to catch up

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Speaker 2: with Kevin Miln this morning morning, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Jack, quite extraordinary really, that not only are you in

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Speaker 4: Costa Rica, but you didn't mention it at the top

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Speaker 4: later on, which I find is incredible. Well, it's just

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Had, you know, several reservations about traveling with a four

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Speaker 2: a it's a real adventure. And actually, Kevin, it's interesting

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Speaker 2: only certified blue zones. You know what these are? No,

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Speaker 4: But Leah, extraordinary. You're very lucky, Jack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's raining up and orkhand, but it's

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Speaker 4: is set aside an hour to sit around your garden

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Speaker 6: Go online for a lot.

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Speaker 4: There are lots to make the bird count easy for you.

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Speaker 4: How do I identify some of them? For example? But

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Speaker 4: you'll identify most of them yourself anyway. It ends tomorrow

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Speaker 4: night on Mataiki weekend, and I thought we'd take part

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Speaker 4: in the annual whale and dolphin count. Our little beach

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Speaker 4: the humpback whales regularly passed by. Counting whales might sound

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Speaker 4: except in other people's videos. We've seen a phenomenally large

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Speaker 2: He'll be there this afternoon, counting down to kickoff right now,

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Speaker 2: twenty six minutes to ten. You were jacktame On News Talks, EDB.

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Speaker 7: You can't be the one that savement.

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning with Jack tame On News Talks, HEB. But honestly,

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Speaker 2: with that, it could be Saturday night at any one

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Speaker 2: of my about eight student flats. It's wonderful by Oasis,

438
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Speaker 2: an absolute classic, of course, and Oasis have kicked off

439
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Speaker 2: their hotly anticipated reunion tour in Cardiff this morning, so

440
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Speaker 2: Liam and Nol have been back on stage together for

441
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Speaker 2: the first time since two thousand and nine. Reports from

442
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Speaker 2: this show suggest that they managed to get through their

443
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Speaker 2: first show that there weren't fisticuffs on stage, which is

444
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Speaker 2: good compared to some of their previous shows. When tickets

445
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Speaker 2: first went on sale in the UK, there were fourteen

446
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Speaker 2: million people and the digital thank you for just one

447
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Speaker 2: and a half million tickets to Oasis. The tour has

448
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Speaker 2: forty one dates in total and the Gallagher brothers are

449
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Speaker 2: going to be in Australia come November. Hey, thank you

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Speaker 2: for your messages this morning on the Texas Morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: Amazing that you are enjoying cost at Eco. What are

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Speaker 2: the animals have you seen? Actually, so as well as

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Speaker 2: the two can that I was mentioning, we have had

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Speaker 2: a lot of luck. I dragged the family into the

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Speaker 2: middle of the country so that we could go on

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Speaker 2: a sloth watching tour, which was an experience, and we

457
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Speaker 2: saw a half dozen or so sloths, which would seem

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty good. The thing about sloss though, that the

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Speaker 2: tour guides usually know where they are because being sloths,

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Speaker 2: they don't exactly move around a whole lot. So that

461
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Speaker 2: was good. We managed to enjoy what is apparently a

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Speaker 2: rear site, which was a sloth coming down tree, so

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Speaker 2: that was good. We've seen an anteacha in the wild,

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Speaker 2: lots of iguanas, monkeys, those kind of things, two cans,

465
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Speaker 2: all sorts of parrots. It's, you know, when it comes

466
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Speaker 2: to biodiversity. I think one of the world's absolute hot spots.

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Speaker 2: So very lucky to be here. I'll get to more

468
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Speaker 2: of your feedback very shortly right now that it's trying

469
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Speaker 2: to get your film picks for this week. Francesca Rudkin,

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Speaker 2: our movie reviewer, is here more dinner.

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Speaker 8: I'm very jealous that you've got to see a sloth,

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Speaker 8: although I am wondering how much sort of time do

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Speaker 8: you give to watching slots.

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Speaker 2: So we did a two hour tour and it was

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, it was not what I

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Speaker 2: was described as a relaxing endeavor. Only because no, no,

477
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Speaker 2: only because I took the four month old baby in

478
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Speaker 2: the front pack and at the very start of the tour,

479
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Speaker 2: our tour guide said to us in sort of grave

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Speaker 2: and serious tones, He's like, the worst thing you can

481
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Speaker 2: do is make a lot of noise. Whatever you guys do,

482
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Speaker 2: for the next two hours. Don't make any noise. And

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Speaker 2: so the whole time I was walking through the jungle

484
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Speaker 2: beinging like, please don't cry now, please don't cry now,

485
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Speaker 2: and there's fear. He did an amazing job. So I

486
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Speaker 2: mean one on the front of me. Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 8: It's it's a it's a learning journey.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 8: That is. It was very wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got two films this morning. Let's begin

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Speaker 2: with one showing in cinemas at the moment, and really

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Speaker 2: one you probably want to see in the cinema rather

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Speaker 2: than at home. This is Jurassic World rebirth.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Henry Wilmis. This is Zora Bennett, our mission specialist.

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Speaker 9: Sorry, what mission We've got towards Barbados avoid government patrol.

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Speaker 3: But there aren't that many anymore. No one's dumb enough

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Speaker 3: to go where we're gone.

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Speaker 2: Scarlet Johansson starring as Zora Bennett in the latest Jurassic

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Speaker 2: World offering.

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Speaker 8: Number seven in the Jurassic Pack franchise. It's set five

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Speaker 8: years after Jurassic World Dominion. It follows a small team

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Speaker 8: on a top secret mission to a Caribbean island that

503
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Speaker 8: hows to research facility for in gen By this stage,

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Speaker 8: you know, people are pretty over the dinosaurs. We've all

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Speaker 8: moved on. They only can live now in a very

506
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Speaker 8: specific area due to climate requirements, and that is pretty

507
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Speaker 8: much in this sort of area on the equator, and

508
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Speaker 8: humans aren't allowed to go there. So everyone's gone, Okay,

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Speaker 8: you know, they exist, but stay away, and especially stay

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Speaker 8: away from this island. Because they focused on mutating dinosaurs.

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Speaker 8: One of the themes here in this film is that, you know,

512
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Speaker 8: if you want to genetically modifying nature, you'd better be

513
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Speaker 8: prepared for the consequences. I will watch Scarlette to Hanson

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Speaker 8: and Anything. I will also watch her cost herschelar Ari

515
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Speaker 8: in Anything. They're also joined by Jonathan Bailey, who's fabulous.

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Speaker 8: He was in Bridgeton. He's goat as well, so we've

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Speaker 8: got a really good cast together.

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Speaker 5: They're sort of.

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Speaker 8: Calling it a semi reboot Jack by introducing this kind

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Speaker 8: of new cast of characters, and this is a new

521
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Speaker 8: island that we visit. Yet it does feel like it's

522
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Speaker 8: a bit of a tribute to the original film, and

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Speaker 8: I'm very, very fond of the original film. It's probably

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Speaker 8: the one I remember the best. There is a reference

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Speaker 8: to Alan Grant played by Sam Neil. There's similar scenes

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Speaker 8: like there's a beautiful there's a scene in a valley

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Speaker 8: filled with dinosaurs where everybody has that moment of awe

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Speaker 8: when they see them in nature. Unusual camera angles, though

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Speaker 8: it didn't quite emotionally hit that. They also use the

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Speaker 8: same tactics of you know, you'll have a character facing

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Speaker 8: the camera, dinosaurs creeping up behind them, something chaotic happens,

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Speaker 8: we watch their facial expressions and then they tera, but

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Speaker 8: they are all these sort of little gimmicks throughout that

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Speaker 8: we've seen before with these films. And then of course

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Speaker 8: they're trying to outwit and survive the man eating dinosaurs.

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Speaker 8: So for a sort of a semi reboot in a way,

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Speaker 8: out to me that it was really sort of HARKing

538
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Speaker 8: back to the original Jurassic Pack and what we loved

539
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Speaker 8: about it. The story is very simple. A team illegally

540
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Speaker 8: goes to an island to get three things they need

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Speaker 8: DNA from a dinosaur on land and water and in

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Speaker 8: the air, and then leave again. So really simple. Not

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Speaker 8: a huge amount here. I don't think they made the

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Speaker 8: most of the mutated dinosaurs. It was kind of like

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Speaker 8: all therese are t rex that looks like predator, but

546
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Speaker 8: you know, that didn't really go anywhere. And along the

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Speaker 8: way they pick up a family that's shipwrecked, who do

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Speaker 8: not want to be on this island, who also have

549
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Speaker 8: to try and survive, but they didn't really look they

550
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Speaker 8: added a family dynamic to the film, but I don't

551
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Speaker 8: know why they were there, Like, they didn't really add

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Speaker 8: a huge amount to the story. Either. Got to see

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Speaker 8: it on the big screen, good fun holiday entertainment. I'll

554
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Speaker 8: always go and see Jurassic Pack film. I'm quite fond

555
00:29:53,733 --> 00:29:57,573
Speaker 8: of this franchise. I was, but I'm easily scared, so

556
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Speaker 8: I was on the edge of my seat a bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: yeah it's good, not ok.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair cool, good, not great. But still if

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Speaker 2: you you know, we all like seeing a person get

560
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Speaker 2: eaten by a dinosaur once in a while, so that

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Speaker 2: sounds like a bit of fun. Jurassic World Rebirth is

562
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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas. Next up, let's have listened to the

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Speaker 2: great Lilian Hall. I lived my entire life.

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Speaker 8: In a place that creates illusions.

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Speaker 10: Lillian fast, fast, Let's find our places.

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Speaker 1: Formation looks beautiful, nas and type cue Lillian.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm afraid of the.

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Speaker 11: Afraid of I'm so sorry, I'll get it great.

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Speaker 2: Okay everyone, Okay, this is well for something completely different,

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Speaker 2: tell us about the great Lilian Hall.

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Speaker 8: So. This is a film written by the niece of

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Speaker 8: a stage actress, although it's not actually based on her aunt,

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Speaker 8: but she's kind of taken aspects of her life and

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Speaker 8: turned it into this original story of a Broadway actress,

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Speaker 8: a legend who gets diagnosed with demitra waa who seem

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Speaker 8: to perform Chekhov's The Cherry Orchard. This is kind of

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Speaker 8: a film about acceptance. You know, Lillian has had symptoms

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Speaker 8: for two years of dementia, but finally gets the point

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Speaker 8: where she's really struggling to remember her lines and she

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Speaker 8: realizes that her life's about to change. And it's that

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Speaker 8: moment of acceptance of how do you let go of

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Speaker 8: the film that's most important to you in your life,

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Speaker 8: that you've dedicated your life to and in this case,

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Speaker 8: it's the theater, and how do you accept what's going

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Speaker 8: to happen to you and share it with your family

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Speaker 8: and things. Jessica Lang stars and this She is absolutely fabulous.

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Speaker 8: Apparently Meryl Street was originally supposed to play this role.

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Speaker 8: But I think that Jessica Lang brings a vanity and

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Speaker 8: I mean that in a complimentary way to the role

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Speaker 8: and nails it and it's worth seeing for her. T S.

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Speaker 8: Brosnan also stars. Kathy Bates also stars. They are fabulous.

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Speaker 8: This was originally an HBO film in the US, but

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Speaker 8: I'm really pleased to see that cinemas are playing it

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Speaker 8: here and Jessica Lang is worth checking out.

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Speaker 2: Great, Okay, cool, that's the great. Lillian Hall Frantisca's first

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Speaker 2: film is Jurassic World Rebirth. Both are showing in cinemas

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and both will, of course Beyond the

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Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be website and a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 2: we're going to tell you about a competition with a

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Speaker 2: difference and it involves chocolate Moose fourteen to ten on

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Speaker 2: News Dog ZB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day, keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure dot co dot inst for high

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Speaker 1: Quality Supplements US talksb twelve.

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Speaker 2: Minutes to ten on News Talks. Heb after ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: if you do feel like veging out this weekend, but

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Speaker 2: actually Jurassic were maybe not your cup of tea. And

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Speaker 2: now the one wasn't either. We've got some options for

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Speaker 2: just watching some stuff at home after ten o'clock and

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Speaker 2: our screen time segment, including this fascinating new show called

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Speaker 2: Hospice Heroes that goes around New Zealand hospices and kind

612
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:47,253
Speaker 2: of shows are behind the scenes. It gives us a

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes view of how the people who work

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Speaker 2: in our hospices do the work they do because it

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Speaker 2: is incredible, important, vital work. But you can imagine for

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Speaker 2: a lot of them it's not only rewarding but also

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Speaker 2: really grueling. So this is quite an intimate portrayal. We'll

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Speaker 2: tell you a bit about that show in our screen

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Speaker 2: time segment after in o'clock this morning. Right now, though,

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Speaker 2: it's time to catch up with our cook, Nikki Wix,

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Speaker 2: who's in this morning.

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Speaker 12: Kilder, God, Kilder, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. I've been eating a lot

624
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Speaker 2: of cassados over the last few days, which are the

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Speaker 2: well they're I mean they're not. It's kind of a

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00:33:21,373 --> 00:33:25,973
Speaker 2: very simple Costa Rican meal, rice beans, plantains, salad, tortilla,

627
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Speaker 2: bit of meat. That's basically it's good. It's good, but

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Speaker 2: it's like honest food very simple food.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's interesting, isn't I.

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Speaker 13: Who did you say before that you have rice and

631
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Speaker 13: beans and when you're sick of those, you have beans

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Speaker 13: and rice.

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Speaker 12: And it is true, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: And you've got all your you know, you've got all

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Speaker 13: your proteins and your amino acids in there. But it

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Speaker 13: does really come from history in terms of people not

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Speaker 13: being able to afford a lot of food, and those of.

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Speaker 2: Course tell you what they well, oh yeah, no, there's

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of cacow and there is also there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of mangoes. I've been making up being

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Speaker 2: a lot of mangoes, a lot of passion through a

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Speaker 2: lot of melons. So yeah, I haven't don't don't feel it,

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Speaker 2: don't violent for me. This morning. We're bracing this morning

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Speaker 2: on something a bit different. A competition, a one of

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Speaker 2: a kind competition that only involves pro chefs and promising

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Speaker 2: young chefs called Moose Masters.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I really like this.

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Speaker 13: I like that it's focused on people who are working

650
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Speaker 13: in the industry as chefs and those who are either

651
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Speaker 13: newswal it or they've been in there forever. And a

652
00:34:31,533 --> 00:34:34,893
Speaker 13: chocolate moose is something that is, if you like a

653
00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:37,413
Speaker 13: real classic, everyone gets taught out and make a chocolate

654
00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:39,213
Speaker 13: moose at chef or cook school.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely.

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Speaker 13: So this wonderful company called We's Co Cow and they've

657
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Speaker 13: got a great story for our listeners if you want

658
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Speaker 13: to go on their website.

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Speaker 14: Weave Ca Cow.

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Speaker 13: They essentially are trying to really support and us to

661
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Speaker 13: the cow growers of Papua New Guinea because the cacao

662
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Speaker 13: or cocoa markets or chocolate market, it feeds into this

663
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Speaker 13: great bulk industry that when you're a small niche you know,

664
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Speaker 13: Pacific grower, it's very hard to survive. So these guys

665
00:35:05,693 --> 00:35:07,733
Speaker 13: are really doing great things. So yes, they want to

666
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Speaker 13: find New Zealand's top chocolate moose dessert, and I.

667
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Speaker 12: Bet they will be elaborate and fantastic, honestly.

668
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Speaker 13: So I'm going to share my very simple, very classic

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Speaker 13: done and a little partial.

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Speaker 2: And I think over complicated.

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Speaker 13: Yes, don't over complicate it, but I know that these

672
00:35:25,933 --> 00:35:29,293
Speaker 13: chiefs will probably look for height and towering things.

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Speaker 12: And this, that and the other.

674
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Speaker 13: But here's how to make a classic a classic. And

675
00:35:33,773 --> 00:35:35,693
Speaker 13: I'm going to stay safe because I don't actually use

676
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,933
Speaker 13: the egg whites because they are raw.

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Speaker 12: And I think, you know, sometimes people are a little

678
00:35:39,493 --> 00:35:41,093
Speaker 12: bit weird about that. But I've got a little trick

679
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Speaker 12: for that. So here we go.

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Speaker 13: You want to bring and I think it's all about

681
00:35:46,173 --> 00:35:48,533
Speaker 13: texture as well as flavor for a chocolate boss to

682
00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:50,853
Speaker 13: all sort of almost disappear in your mouth.

683
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Speaker 12: It's so quite. I've got four in the fridge. How

684
00:35:53,333 --> 00:35:54,813
Speaker 12: long do you think they're gonna last? Anyway?

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00:35:55,573 --> 00:35:57,653
Speaker 13: So first of all, take half a cup of cream

686
00:35:57,773 --> 00:36:01,533
Speaker 13: and bring that to a near boil in a little

687
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Speaker 13: small saucepan.

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00:36:02,853 --> 00:36:05,133
Speaker 12: And meantime, while that's happening, although keep an eye on it,

689
00:36:05,213 --> 00:36:06,013
Speaker 12: in a bowl.

690
00:36:05,773 --> 00:36:11,213
Speaker 13: With together two small egg yolks and a heaped tablespoon

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Speaker 13: of sugar.

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Speaker 12: And you want to do this until it's beautiful and pale.

693
00:36:14,253 --> 00:36:16,973
Speaker 13: And then keep whisking as you slowly pour that hot

694
00:36:16,973 --> 00:36:21,053
Speaker 13: cream into the eggs. And that will one kodly the eggs,

695
00:36:21,053 --> 00:36:23,653
Speaker 13: but it will cook those egg yolks enough, and then

696
00:36:23,693 --> 00:36:27,373
Speaker 13: you've got seventy grams of very dark, good quality chopped.

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00:36:27,573 --> 00:36:29,653
Speaker 13: Of course, I reckon that you use some weave cacao,

698
00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:34,893
Speaker 13: because it's got a nice high cocoa and cocoa butter.

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00:36:35,253 --> 00:36:38,413
Speaker 12: It's not sort of cheap and just walk non cocoa fat.

700
00:36:38,773 --> 00:36:41,173
Speaker 13: So throw that in a you chop chocolate, let it

701
00:36:41,253 --> 00:36:44,053
Speaker 13: stand for a little bit, and that chocolate will melt.

702
00:36:44,093 --> 00:36:46,013
Speaker 13: So I chop it very small and then allow that

703
00:36:46,093 --> 00:36:49,053
Speaker 13: to cool, and then really give it a good old

704
00:36:49,133 --> 00:36:50,733
Speaker 13: whisk and you'll.

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00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:52,733
Speaker 12: See all of that chocolate start to melt through the

706
00:36:53,173 --> 00:36:55,293
Speaker 12: sugar and eggs. And then you fold it in.

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00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:59,093
Speaker 13: Instead of some egg whites, which is traditional, I just

708
00:36:59,293 --> 00:37:01,133
Speaker 13: use the cream. So you use half a cup of

709
00:37:01,213 --> 00:37:03,573
Speaker 13: cream that you've then whipped with a bit of vannilla

710
00:37:03,653 --> 00:37:06,973
Speaker 13: extract and fold that gently through some you're not losing

711
00:37:06,973 --> 00:37:09,493
Speaker 13: any of the air into the chocolate, which it.

712
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:11,213
Speaker 12: Takes quite a while. I got to be a bit patient.

713
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:14,293
Speaker 12: Pour it into four I just use little cups. It's rich,

714
00:37:14,373 --> 00:37:14,653
Speaker 12: so you.

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Speaker 13: Don't have to, you know, I have a huge amount

716
00:37:16,413 --> 00:37:18,733
Speaker 13: of this. Refrigerate it for at least three to four

717
00:37:18,773 --> 00:37:21,933
Speaker 13: hours or overnight. Have some patience with that because that

718
00:37:22,053 --> 00:37:24,453
Speaker 13: helps set that. You know that chocolate again, of course,

719
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Speaker 13: which gives you the texture. Maybe grate some chocolate on top,

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Speaker 13: maybe save it with a little bit of extra whipped

721
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Speaker 13: creep on top.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: And it's just beautiful you know, it's the sort of

724
00:37:33,893 --> 00:37:35,693
Speaker 13: thing that you know, you dig your spoon into a

725
00:37:36,173 --> 00:37:39,053
Speaker 13: moose like and then as I say it just sort

726
00:37:39,053 --> 00:37:40,973
Speaker 13: of the mouth feel, it just sort of disappears in

727
00:37:41,013 --> 00:37:42,093
Speaker 13: your mouth, which is so good.

728
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Speaker 12: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, well make sure that is on the website.

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Speaker 2: It sounds amazing. Thank you, Nikki. You enjoy the remaining

731
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Speaker 2: four I'm sure, like you say, they won't last long,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back in a couple of minutes. It's

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Speaker 2: sixty ten on News Talks V.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

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Speaker 2: going to share us that with us very shortly. Plus

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Speaker 2: the stars of the brand new reimagining of Shakespeare's Romeo

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Speaker 2: and Juliet. It's remixed, set in the nineteen sixties. They'll

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Speaker 2: Yoda, Good morning, Welcome to Newstork ZEDV. You are Jack

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Speaker 2: Tame through to twelve o'clock midday today. It is a

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Speaker 2: classic story, the classic story of boy meets girl, their families,

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00:39:36,693 --> 00:39:40,613
Speaker 2: you know, hate each other, chaos since Hughes, but Shakespeare's

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Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet really is the tale of star cross lovers.

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Speaker 2: And it's just a few weeks. The story is going

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Speaker 2: to be brought to the stage by Auckland Theater Company.

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Speaker 2: But this is not your grandparents Shakespeare, No, no, this

767
00:39:53,373 --> 00:39:57,053
Speaker 2: is a fast paced thriller set in the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 2: Milan with kiwi accents and soon to be The Romeo

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Speaker 2: and the Julieta Romeo and Julieta Theo David and Phoebe McKellar,

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Speaker 2: and they are here with us on new Spooks. He'd

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Speaker 2: be this morning killed a cordwa and welcome to the show.

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00:40:10,213 --> 00:40:14,693
Speaker 2: Thanks for being here, I think Jack, so nice to

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Speaker 2: be speaking with you both. Theo. I'm going to kick

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Speaker 2: off with you just to explain to us how different

775
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Speaker 2: is this production of Romeo and Juliet to the one

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Speaker 2: that we might have seen two hundred years ago.

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Speaker 10: Well, for starters, you've got men and women in the cast,

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Speaker 10: because I know back then it was probably all men,

779
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Speaker 10: so that's nice. But like you said, this is set

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Speaker 10: in kind of nineteen sixties Milanese style, so think high fashion,

781
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Speaker 10: think culture, I think really hot passion. And like you

782
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Speaker 10: said as well, you know we've got all the actors

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Speaker 10: retaining their accent, so it's not going to be some

784
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Speaker 10: British broadcast network version of Roman Juliet. This is a

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Speaker 10: Roman Juliet produced in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Oh fun, phoebe What about the language? Is it still

787
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Speaker 2: very much like Romeo Romeo where for out there Romeo?

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Speaker 2: Or is it like Romeo Romeo where you at boy?

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Speaker 15: I mean I guess that the language is very much

790
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Speaker 15: the same. And the intention I mean, wee wet boy

791
00:41:13,573 --> 00:41:18,213
Speaker 15: was valid back then and still valid now. So the

792
00:41:18,293 --> 00:41:20,733
Speaker 15: language is the same, the intention is heightened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what four hundred years I think since this

794
00:41:25,053 --> 00:41:27,413
Speaker 2: production from this first stage, which is remarkable. But it

795
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Speaker 2: really is like kind of like I was saying, it

796
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Speaker 2: is the story of Starcross lovers, the story of boy

797
00:41:32,973 --> 00:41:36,053
Speaker 2: meets girl. But theo You've done like heaps of Shakespearean

798
00:41:36,213 --> 00:41:39,453
Speaker 2: plays over the years, right, like you've played well. I

799
00:41:39,493 --> 00:41:42,733
Speaker 2: think you've been Henry the fifth in Romey and Juliet.

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00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:45,693
Speaker 2: You've been much ado about nothing, You've been orthello. So

801
00:41:46,013 --> 00:41:48,053
Speaker 2: what is it about Shakespeare that you love so much?

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00:41:48,933 --> 00:41:49,213
Speaker 11: Ah?

803
00:41:49,453 --> 00:41:53,373
Speaker 10: Just just language, just as words like I mean, I'll

804
00:41:53,413 --> 00:41:55,853
Speaker 10: be honest, I like the employment that comes with it too,

805
00:41:56,293 --> 00:41:59,173
Speaker 10: our life. But just you know, he has this way

806
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:02,253
Speaker 10: of explaining things that we don't. We don't talk like

807
00:42:02,293 --> 00:42:03,813
Speaker 10: that anymore. You know, we're in the era of the

808
00:42:03,853 --> 00:42:05,733
Speaker 10: emoji or the meme. You know, we can send that

809
00:42:06,213 --> 00:42:08,133
Speaker 10: and try and communicate. But you know, back then he

810
00:42:08,253 --> 00:42:12,253
Speaker 10: was saying stuff like, you know, by all my fortunes

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Speaker 10: at my foot, I'll lay and I'll follow you throughout

812
00:42:14,533 --> 00:42:17,333
Speaker 10: the world. Like you know, that's pretty romantic. But you

813
00:42:17,333 --> 00:42:18,653
Speaker 10: would never hear anyone say that now.

814
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is quite kind of profound. How do you

815
00:42:22,013 --> 00:42:24,253
Speaker 2: feel about the language, Phoebe, How does this compare to

816
00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:26,933
Speaker 2: a different kind of production, one one that would use

817
00:42:26,973 --> 00:42:30,093
Speaker 2: modern language. How do you find telling a Shakespearean story

818
00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:31,493
Speaker 2: in Shakespeare's language?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: I mean the language is so rich in all of

821
00:42:35,653 --> 00:42:39,613
Speaker 15: its imagery, Like you can really roll around as an actor,

822
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Speaker 15: just roll around in the in the words that he's

823
00:42:42,453 --> 00:42:46,853
Speaker 15: gifted you, and their a gift to the audience as well,

824
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Speaker 15: because they might be foreign to their audiences here. But

825
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Speaker 15: you really understand the poetry of it, and it is

826
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Speaker 15: all poetry. Basically, Romeo and Juliet is all poetry, and

827
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Speaker 15: most of it's in verse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, how do you find do you find like

829
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Speaker 2: the rhythm of it difficult to get into? Does that

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00:43:06,813 --> 00:43:08,573
Speaker 2: kind of help once you're in the production? Help with

831
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Speaker 2: the flow of the production.

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Speaker 15: Do you find, Phoebe the rhythm one helps learn lines

833
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:18,093
Speaker 15: very much, so much easier than anything else because it

834
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Speaker 15: just kind of gets you into that poetry and that emotion.

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Speaker 4: Immediately.

836
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Speaker 15: And then yeah, the the show itself is so fast,

837
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Speaker 15: the journey that they go on is so fast, so

838
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Speaker 15: that just kind of the verse keeps the heartbeat alive

839
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Speaker 15: and just ticking.

840
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it kind of drives it forward throughout

841
00:43:42,093 --> 00:43:46,293
Speaker 2: as I can imagine that that when you're playing Romeo

842
00:43:46,293 --> 00:43:49,573
Speaker 2: and Juliet, chemistry is super important. So can you talk

843
00:43:49,613 --> 00:43:52,493
Speaker 2: to us about the process, process of being of being

844
00:43:52,573 --> 00:43:56,893
Speaker 2: cast as Romeo and and how you guys try and

845
00:43:56,973 --> 00:43:59,813
Speaker 2: kind of nurture the chemistry on stage together.

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Speaker 10: We well, we're quite lucky. We've we've known we were

847
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:07,573
Speaker 10: going to play these characters for about a year now,

848
00:44:07,733 --> 00:44:11,893
Speaker 10: so and we did our kind of callback audition together

849
00:44:11,893 --> 00:44:13,493
Speaker 10: as well. So I think there was something in that

850
00:44:13,773 --> 00:44:16,853
Speaker 10: audition that may then go, oh, it's maybe this is

851
00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:20,813
Speaker 10: the relationship with nurture. And then just at different points

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00:44:20,933 --> 00:44:23,453
Speaker 10: throughout the past year, you know, we did a photoshop together,

853
00:44:23,493 --> 00:44:25,613
Speaker 10: and we shot the trailer together, and that was like

854
00:44:25,693 --> 00:44:29,213
Speaker 10: a nice slow build up before we got into the

855
00:44:29,253 --> 00:44:31,493
Speaker 10: rehearsal room. But there's a lot We've got Ben helping

856
00:44:31,573 --> 00:44:33,453
Speaker 10: us with that. We have an we have an intimacy

857
00:44:33,493 --> 00:44:38,253
Speaker 10: coordinator Lara, who kind of helps cultivate you know what

858
00:44:38,333 --> 00:44:42,053
Speaker 10: the touch choreography is, what kind of because this might

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00:44:42,093 --> 00:44:45,333
Speaker 10: be all that kind of stuff. So that's very much

860
00:44:46,573 --> 00:44:49,093
Speaker 10: it's like a dance. Yeah, it's like learning dance steps

861
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Speaker 10: so that way you're not well, so that way you

862
00:44:52,333 --> 00:44:54,693
Speaker 10: don't just throw yourself into it if you don't feel

863
00:44:54,693 --> 00:44:56,933
Speaker 10: like it, but also so that you just have these

864
00:44:56,933 --> 00:44:58,373
Speaker 10: little touch points that you can get to.

865
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

866
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Speaker 2: Right, they kind of the kind of spark it all

867
00:45:02,453 --> 00:45:05,693
Speaker 2: kind of mean continuity or something with that relationship. So

868
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:08,293
Speaker 2: the Ben your your referencing as Benjamin Kilby Henson, who's

869
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Speaker 2: the director of this production of Romeo and Juliet. But

870
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Speaker 2: how have you found it, Phoebe? Because I can look

871
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Speaker 2: from an outsider this perspective, someone with no acting chops,

872
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Speaker 2: I can imagine that it's quite a high pressure scenario

873
00:45:19,853 --> 00:45:22,413
Speaker 2: to be put in an environment where you are trying

874
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Speaker 2: to develop chemistry with someone in quite a public way.

875
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Speaker 15: Now, I feel like Ben himself is an amazing director

876
00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:37,373
Speaker 15: and the way that the room has run, like his

877
00:45:37,613 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 15: process and his preparation has made it. So I mean,

878
00:45:41,893 --> 00:45:45,333
Speaker 15: I think easy for us to actually just walk in

879
00:45:45,693 --> 00:45:51,213
Speaker 15: and then find this language of intimacy together with his

880
00:45:51,373 --> 00:45:57,333
Speaker 15: outside eye of just fine tuning and within the world

881
00:45:57,333 --> 00:46:01,053
Speaker 15: of discovery, so we never lose that play, that the

882
00:46:01,173 --> 00:46:05,693
Speaker 15: chemistry is still alive and there's always more to be discovered.

883
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Speaker 2: Which is again, so tell me more about this intimacy coordinator.

884
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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated by this, and I know zero

885
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Speaker 2: about how an intimacy coordinator actually works. How does what

886
00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:19,413
Speaker 2: is the role phobe and how does that kind of

887
00:46:19,413 --> 00:46:20,453
Speaker 2: work in a production like this.

888
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Speaker 15: Yeah, so the intimacy coordinator kind of comes in and

889
00:46:24,893 --> 00:46:28,333
Speaker 15: we because we had all the photo shirts and stuff,

890
00:46:28,373 --> 00:46:34,053
Speaker 15: any kind of intimate touch, you essentially choreograph it and

891
00:46:34,093 --> 00:46:39,853
Speaker 15: give yourself a really good base whilst talking about is

892
00:46:40,373 --> 00:46:44,373
Speaker 15: it feather touch or is it like muscle touch or

893
00:46:44,413 --> 00:46:47,453
Speaker 15: is it bone touch? And you always have to check

894
00:46:47,493 --> 00:46:53,493
Speaker 15: in with your other actor almost like a stunt of going, yeah,

895
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:56,133
Speaker 15: how do you feel today? Are were okay? Like yeah,

896
00:46:56,213 --> 00:47:03,853
Speaker 15: and rechecking in and then you kind of make the

897
00:47:03,853 --> 00:47:08,413
Speaker 15: the goalposts essentially, and then within what you've discussed and

898
00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:11,693
Speaker 15: the and the world that you've created together. With that touch,

899
00:47:12,773 --> 00:47:15,693
Speaker 15: you can kind of play in there, which is bad.

900
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Speaker 2: I see. So you don't want to be too prescriptive

901
00:47:18,573 --> 00:47:21,653
Speaker 2: that again speaking just like you have to forgive me guys,

902
00:47:21,813 --> 00:47:24,493
Speaker 2: just a total amateur hear, but speak like I would

903
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Speaker 2: have thought. You don't want to be like you want

904
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Speaker 2: to set the goalposts in an appropriate distance, right, because you

905
00:47:30,213 --> 00:47:32,733
Speaker 2: don't want to coordinate it to the point that you

906
00:47:32,813 --> 00:47:35,253
Speaker 2: kind of suck the romance or the serendipity or out

907
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:38,573
Speaker 2: the kind of it is a balance, I would have

908
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Speaker 2: thought that.

909
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Speaker 16: Yeah.

910
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's just to keep everyone safe too, because

911
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Speaker 10: you know, you don't want to be you hear stories

912
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Speaker 10: all the time. But it's just to make sure we

913
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Speaker 10: know that my hand is going to go here and

914
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Speaker 10: it's not going to go any higher or any lower.

915
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Speaker 10: And it just takes all that anxiety away for everyone

916
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Speaker 10: as well.

917
00:47:54,613 --> 00:47:54,813
Speaker 2: Yeah.

918
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Speaker 10: And it's not people, yeah, yeah, not even twenty years

919
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Speaker 10: ago probably.

920
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Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry I interrupted you there. What were you saying?

921
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Speaker 10: Just opened to my nators are they're not just for

922
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Speaker 10: like romantic relationships either. You know, there's a lot of

923
00:48:11,493 --> 00:48:14,973
Speaker 10: maternal slash paternal relationships in the show, they helped kind

924
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 10: of cultivate that language as well.

925
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Speaker 15: Yeah, Like I had a meeting with Lara and the

926
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Speaker 15: nurse because there's a very physical relationship there, and that

927
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Speaker 15: really helped play the groundwork for the realm that we

928
00:48:28,693 --> 00:48:29,973
Speaker 15: get to play in together.

929
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, nice. So Phoebe tell us about the

930
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Speaker 2: fashion because seeing it in Milan in the sixties has

931
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Speaker 2: a very distinct look.

932
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Speaker 15: Yes, lots of bright colors, bowl pattern everything's a lot

933
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Speaker 15: of a lot of tight pants for the men.

934
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Speaker 2: And then the ball outfits.

935
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Speaker 15: I mean, you'll just have to come see it, won't you.

936
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But I mean this is part of the

937
00:49:01,533 --> 00:49:03,973
Speaker 2: the decision to see it in the sixties. There is

938
00:49:04,133 --> 00:49:08,333
Speaker 2: very much because it allows for like the most kind

939
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Speaker 2: of impressive visuals possible.

940
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Speaker 6: Right.

941
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's the era of Romanticism, it's the era of

942
00:49:14,413 --> 00:49:19,813
Speaker 10: rebellion and like, because we're already so removed from the

943
00:49:19,853 --> 00:49:24,853
Speaker 10: Shakespearean language, so you could set it in a modern setting,

944
00:49:24,973 --> 00:49:27,293
Speaker 10: but it would it sounds a bit weird to see

945
00:49:27,293 --> 00:49:29,493
Speaker 10: someone you know, dressed in a hoodie speaking Shakespeare.

946
00:49:29,533 --> 00:49:30,973
Speaker 2: So well, Ben's that is.

947
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Speaker 10: Quite amazing because he's kind of given you a step

948
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Speaker 10: into the Shakespeare rule by setting it maybe one step

949
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Speaker 10: away from us, and then that's kind of the launch

950
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Speaker 10: pad into the language.

951
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a great way to do it.

952
00:49:45,053 --> 00:49:48,213
Speaker 2: So it's a story about young people, essentially Romeo and Juliet.

953
00:49:48,253 --> 00:49:50,493
Speaker 2: I think they're super young, aren't they. Well, the characters

954
00:49:50,533 --> 00:49:53,133
Speaker 2: are super young. So when you guys are staging a

955
00:49:53,173 --> 00:49:56,533
Speaker 2: performance like this, do you do you do you hope

956
00:49:56,573 --> 00:49:59,293
Speaker 2: that it'll bring young people to the theater? Like, is

957
00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:03,373
Speaker 2: that a consideration given there are so many different forms

958
00:50:03,373 --> 00:50:06,333
Speaker 2: of entertainment kind of vying for people's attention at the moment,

959
00:50:06,413 --> 00:50:09,333
Speaker 2: and especially young people. Is this the kind of production

960
00:50:09,413 --> 00:50:12,173
Speaker 2: you think that you know that might help to inspire

961
00:50:12,253 --> 00:50:15,013
Speaker 2: thest beans of the future and inspire young people who

962
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Speaker 2: might not usually go to the theater to head along

963
00:50:18,373 --> 00:50:19,053
Speaker 2: and be inspired.

964
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

965
00:50:20,453 --> 00:50:21,533
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I mean.

966
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Speaker 15: And and the way that Ben has, I guess cut

967
00:50:27,493 --> 00:50:31,613
Speaker 15: down the script it is the first time I read it,

968
00:50:31,773 --> 00:50:34,133
Speaker 15: I was like forty six pages and I was like,

969
00:50:34,333 --> 00:50:37,053
Speaker 15: this is so short for a Shakespeare But I think

970
00:50:37,053 --> 00:50:41,093
Speaker 15: it's also what we need and what our younger brands need.

971
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Speaker 11: We don't have.

972
00:50:43,333 --> 00:50:48,973
Speaker 15: The the will to sit and listen to all of

973
00:50:49,013 --> 00:50:52,493
Speaker 15: that poetry, but it just rockets forward with the narrative

974
00:50:52,733 --> 00:50:57,013
Speaker 15: and the emotion, and I think that will really hit

975
00:50:57,453 --> 00:50:58,973
Speaker 15: so well with the younger audience.

976
00:50:59,213 --> 00:51:03,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you so good. So it's been cut down

977
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:05,613
Speaker 2: a little bit. It's been set in the nineteen sixties.

978
00:51:06,413 --> 00:51:08,613
Speaker 2: Sounds like so much dumb but fun. But THEO just

979
00:51:08,613 --> 00:51:11,013
Speaker 2: promise us, does it have a happy ending?

980
00:51:12,773 --> 00:51:14,973
Speaker 10: You know, we're going to play it like there's a

981
00:51:14,973 --> 00:51:17,573
Speaker 10: happy ending. You know, there's not a tragedy until it's

982
00:51:17,573 --> 00:51:20,173
Speaker 10: a tragedy. So yeah, there's going to be and yeah

983
00:51:20,173 --> 00:51:21,293
Speaker 10: there they're going to fall in love.

984
00:51:21,973 --> 00:51:23,893
Speaker 2: It's going to be a big and then another stuff

985
00:51:23,893 --> 00:51:27,413
Speaker 2: that happens too. Yeah yeah, it will be some fights

986
00:51:27,533 --> 00:51:28,373
Speaker 2: there probably, but.

987
00:51:31,133 --> 00:51:31,893
Speaker 3: Happily after.

988
00:51:32,933 --> 00:51:33,333
Speaker 5: Yeah.

989
00:51:33,413 --> 00:51:36,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, no promises, but no. It sounds like so

990
00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:39,093
Speaker 2: much fun, guys, and a great way to reimagine one

991
00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:40,893
Speaker 2: of the all time classic Thank you so much for

992
00:51:40,933 --> 00:51:43,333
Speaker 2: being with us this morning. The O, David and Phoebe

993
00:51:43,453 --> 00:51:47,653
Speaker 2: mckella are the stars of Auckland Theater Companies new production

994
00:51:47,813 --> 00:51:51,013
Speaker 2: of Romeo and Juliet. It's fast paced, it is set

995
00:51:51,053 --> 00:51:53,253
Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties in Milan. We're going to have

996
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Speaker 2: all the details, including we can get tickets up on

997
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Speaker 2: the news talks. He'd be website now before eleven o'clock.

998
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing regardless of where you are, maybe there are

999
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Speaker 2: a couple of tiny little pockets around the country that

1000
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1039
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1040
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Speaker 17: who control the drug trade in Liverpool. The head of

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1042
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1046
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1047
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1048
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Speaker 17: his life. He's living two lives effectively. One is full

1049
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1050
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Speaker 17: family life and obviously those two worlds are going to

1051
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1052
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Speaker 17: talked about the show Mobland, which is another show about

1053
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Speaker 17: a British gangster family.

1054
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Speaker 11: This is kind of.

1055
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Speaker 17: Similar, but it's a bit grittier and the pace is

1056
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Speaker 17: a lot slower. But I watched this yesterday afternoon on

1057
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Speaker 17: a wet, cold Friday and really enjoyed it. You know

1058
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Speaker 17: where you are with the show. It's not trying to

1059
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Speaker 17: do anything too different, but it's got some great characters,

1060
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Speaker 17: some surprising moment Sean Bean as great as this uncompromising

1061
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Speaker 17: crime boss. Just a really good, solid crime drama to

1062
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Speaker 17: escape into.

1063
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Speaker 2: Yeah nice, Okay, cool, that sounds good. So that's on

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Speaker 17: breaking down those stigmas about what we might think a

1077
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Speaker 17: hospice is and what we might think end of care,

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00:55:53,733 --> 00:55:55,973
Speaker 17: end of life care looks like. And a bit in

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00:55:56,013 --> 00:55:59,253
Speaker 17: the way, like you know, the cask teer took us

1080
00:55:59,253 --> 00:56:01,333
Speaker 17: inside a funeral home, but it was also full of

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00:56:01,373 --> 00:56:04,573
Speaker 17: these moments of warmth and his heart. This has that

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00:56:04,653 --> 00:56:06,773
Speaker 17: same vibe to it, lots of warmth and to it

1083
00:56:06,813 --> 00:56:09,733
Speaker 17: as well. It's done with a lot of sensitivity and care,

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00:56:10,213 --> 00:56:13,253
Speaker 17: and it's also an incredible tribute to the work that

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00:56:13,373 --> 00:56:15,693
Speaker 17: the doctors and the nurses and the staff do there,

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00:56:15,733 --> 00:56:18,413
Speaker 17: as well as all the volunteers in the hospice shop

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00:56:19,293 --> 00:56:22,413
Speaker 17: shops and things like that. So probably a different show

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00:56:22,493 --> 00:56:24,693
Speaker 17: for me to be recommending today, but I think a

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00:56:24,733 --> 00:56:27,493
Speaker 17: really important one. You will cry watching this, but you'll

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00:56:27,533 --> 00:56:30,493
Speaker 17: also laugh and feel inspired and feel a lot of

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00:56:30,533 --> 00:56:31,413
Speaker 17: gratitude as well.

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00:56:31,773 --> 00:56:32,093
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:56:32,413 --> 00:56:34,973
Speaker 2: See, I know a few of the staff members that

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00:56:35,053 --> 00:56:37,733
Speaker 2: taught at a hospice. I've spent small amount of time

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00:56:37,733 --> 00:56:41,173
Speaker 2: out there over the years. It's just amazing what has done,

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00:56:41,253 --> 00:56:44,013
Speaker 2: and not just in torturalive but in hospices around the country.

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Speaker 2: So I actually just think, as well as being you know,

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00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:50,213
Speaker 2: a moving and emotional watch, it's a really important story

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00:56:50,213 --> 00:56:52,173
Speaker 2: and one that needs to be told more. I don't

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00:56:52,173 --> 00:56:55,893
Speaker 2: think enough New Zealanders appreciate, you know, just how incredible

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00:56:56,333 --> 00:56:58,813
Speaker 2: the work is that a lot of people you know,

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00:56:58,853 --> 00:57:01,653
Speaker 2: put in these hospices around the country, often for little

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00:57:01,693 --> 00:57:04,333
Speaker 2: or no money in many occasions as well. So yeah,

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00:57:04,373 --> 00:57:07,733
Speaker 2: I'm really appreciate yet. So you can see that on

1105
00:57:07,893 --> 00:57:12,053
Speaker 2: three now. And there are three big blockbuster shows returning

1106
00:57:12,093 --> 00:57:16,253
Speaker 2: to the international streamers, Tour de France Unchained and Squid

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00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:18,933
Speaker 2: Game on Netflix and The Beer on Disney Plus.

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00:57:19,493 --> 00:57:19,733
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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00:57:19,813 --> 00:57:22,853
Speaker 17: Yeah, three big shows all dropped new seasons last week.

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00:57:22,893 --> 00:57:25,293
Speaker 17: And so if you haven't seen any of these shows,

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00:57:25,373 --> 00:57:27,493
Speaker 17: or you're wanting to watch a show this weekend that

1112
00:57:27,533 --> 00:57:29,853
Speaker 17: has a lot of episodes to get through, these are

1113
00:57:30,173 --> 00:57:32,973
Speaker 17: three great options. The first Tour de France Unchained, which

1114
00:57:33,013 --> 00:57:35,413
Speaker 17: is I mean, we've talked about this before Jack both

1115
00:57:35,413 --> 00:57:38,893
Speaker 17: six fans of this. It's a brilliant, fast paced documentary

1116
00:57:38,933 --> 00:57:41,453
Speaker 17: series that takes you behind the scenes of the Toura France.

1117
00:57:41,773 --> 00:57:43,893
Speaker 17: Even if you don't know anything about cycling, this is

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00:57:43,893 --> 00:57:48,293
Speaker 17: a really addictive, fascinating, entertaining series. At times it feels

1119
00:57:48,293 --> 00:57:50,893
Speaker 17: like you're actually in the Palatin And so the third

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00:57:50,933 --> 00:57:53,453
Speaker 17: season of that has just dropped on Netflix. The second

1121
00:57:53,453 --> 00:57:55,893
Speaker 17: show is The Bear on Disney Plus. Season four has

1122
00:57:55,933 --> 00:57:58,253
Speaker 17: just dropped, and this is going to be my weekend watch.

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00:57:58,853 --> 00:58:01,733
Speaker 17: The Bear is an award winning American drama about a

1124
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:04,293
Speaker 17: chef who comes home to Chicago to take over his

1125
00:58:04,413 --> 00:58:08,093
Speaker 17: family diner after his brother dies. It's quite a stressful

1126
00:58:08,213 --> 00:58:12,013
Speaker 17: and and sprenetic show, but an excellent lot, and the

1127
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:14,413
Speaker 17: reviews for this new season have been really strong, so

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Speaker 17: I'm looking forward to that. The third show, it's Squid

1129
00:58:17,293 --> 00:58:19,893
Speaker 17: Game on Netflix. The third and final season of Quad

1130
00:58:19,893 --> 00:58:23,013
Speaker 17: Game dropped last week and immediately broke all sorts of records.

1131
00:58:23,253 --> 00:58:27,093
Speaker 17: Over sixty million people watched Squid Game across three days,

1132
00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:31,093
Speaker 17: which is a new record for Netflix. It's phenomenal. This

1133
00:58:31,213 --> 00:58:35,173
Speaker 17: is a Korean series. It's a dark, dark satire about catitalism.

1134
00:58:35,213 --> 00:58:38,213
Speaker 17: But it's one man's quest to win a large amount

1135
00:58:38,253 --> 00:58:40,933
Speaker 17: of money by going on this twisted game show where

1136
00:58:40,933 --> 00:58:43,333
Speaker 17: if you lose the game, you get shot. So it's

1137
00:58:43,373 --> 00:58:45,973
Speaker 17: pretty bleak but also very good and in one of

1138
00:58:46,013 --> 00:58:48,653
Speaker 17: those shows that it kind of has weird dreams about

1139
00:58:48,653 --> 00:58:51,893
Speaker 17: it afterwards, that it gets into your sub consciousness. But

1140
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Speaker 17: sixty million people, it can't be all wrong, right.

1141
00:58:55,133 --> 00:58:58,253
Speaker 2: No, Look, it's a bit of escapism, but it is. Yeah,

1142
00:58:58,293 --> 00:59:01,693
Speaker 2: it's a satire. It's pretty dark satire, very dark. Yes,

1143
00:59:01,733 --> 00:59:05,733
Speaker 2: Squid Game is. And I mean the production is like extreme,

1144
00:59:05,813 --> 00:59:06,293
Speaker 2: does they the lead?

1145
00:59:06,653 --> 00:59:07,013
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1146
00:59:07,133 --> 00:59:09,373
Speaker 2: So no, those are Those are great recommendations. Tar off

1147
00:59:09,373 --> 00:59:11,333
Speaker 2: top of here, is is it the final series of

1148
00:59:11,333 --> 00:59:12,533
Speaker 2: The Bear? Do you know?

1149
00:59:13,973 --> 00:59:15,693
Speaker 17: I don't think it is. I think they've left it

1150
00:59:15,733 --> 00:59:17,133
Speaker 17: open for another season.

1151
00:59:17,253 --> 00:59:19,653
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that just they need to stop, you know,

1152
00:59:19,693 --> 00:59:21,493
Speaker 2: when there's been a really good show, but you're like,

1153
00:59:21,573 --> 00:59:23,293
Speaker 2: I really think they're just going to push it too far?

1154
00:59:23,413 --> 00:59:25,093
Speaker 11: Now, Yeah, that's interesting.

1155
00:59:25,213 --> 00:59:27,013
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah.

1156
00:59:26,973 --> 00:59:30,173
Speaker 2: See with Tura France, the final season. Yeah yeah yeah,

1157
00:59:30,173 --> 00:59:32,613
Speaker 2: sometimes less more, sometimes just like calling it and being

1158
00:59:32,613 --> 00:59:36,013
Speaker 2: assertive is a really good decision with the TV. Okay,

1159
00:59:36,213 --> 00:59:38,973
Speaker 2: love that. Those are great recommendations, So thank you very much.

1160
00:59:39,013 --> 00:59:42,853
Speaker 2: So the City is Ours? Is that crime drama that

1161
00:59:42,893 --> 00:59:46,373
Speaker 2: Tara mentioned first, that's on three now, so is Hospice Heroes,

1162
00:59:46,813 --> 00:59:49,053
Speaker 2: and then the three big blockbusters that are back with

1163
00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:52,573
Speaker 2: new series. Tour de France. Unchained has its final series

1164
00:59:52,573 --> 00:59:55,653
Speaker 2: on Netflix, The Bear is on Disney Plus and Squid

1165
00:59:55,693 --> 00:59:59,453
Speaker 2: Game is also on Netflix. It's just gone ten.

1166
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Speaker 1: Thirty, getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News Talks' Blood.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to say I love this song. This

1170
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Speaker 2: is Kesher and this song is called TikTok I think

1171
01:00:35,213 --> 01:00:38,413
Speaker 2: it came out before TikTok, you know, the swipey swipe TikTok.

1172
01:00:38,533 --> 01:00:40,813
Speaker 2: It could be wrong there, but I think it did well. Anyway,

1173
01:00:40,893 --> 01:00:43,933
Speaker 2: Kesha is taking back her power. So she burst onto

1174
01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:46,493
Speaker 2: the scene with the song and a couple of other

1175
01:00:46,653 --> 01:00:51,653
Speaker 2: like really poppy party tracks, but behind the raucous, grungey

1176
01:00:51,693 --> 01:00:54,453
Speaker 2: glam persona as someone who spent the last decade in

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01:00:54,493 --> 01:00:57,253
Speaker 2: a dramatic effort to reclaim her own voice. So she's

1178
01:00:57,293 --> 01:01:00,733
Speaker 2: been in this big legal battle with music producer Doctor Luke,

1179
01:01:01,173 --> 01:01:03,773
Speaker 2: who kind of famously ran a bit of a hits factory.

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01:01:03,853 --> 01:01:06,213
Speaker 2: He kind of had this process and this team for

1181
01:01:06,493 --> 01:01:08,573
Speaker 2: turning out hit after hit after hit. He signed her

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Speaker 2: to a label when she was eighteen, a contract that

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Speaker 2: she then desperately tried to get out of. In a

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01:01:13,413 --> 01:01:15,613
Speaker 2: civil case, she accused him of all kinds of abuse

1185
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Speaker 2: and manipulation. So Kesha is now thirty eight as of

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01:01:19,493 --> 01:01:23,333
Speaker 2: March of last year. So March twenty twenty four, Kesha

1187
01:01:23,573 --> 01:01:26,053
Speaker 2: was free. So she finally became free to create music

1188
01:01:26,053 --> 01:01:28,733
Speaker 2: on her own terms. And that's exactly what she's doing now.

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Speaker 2: So she's working for herself. She's created her own label

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Speaker 2: called Kesha Records and quite pointedly on the US Independence Stay.

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Speaker 2: July fourth, she has released her first album as an

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Speaker 2: independent artist. So the album is called Period. Our music

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Speaker 2: reviewer Estelle has been listening to it. She's going to

1194
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Speaker 2: join us before mid day today to give us her

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01:01:47,413 --> 01:01:50,253
Speaker 2: thoughts and led us in on whether the album has

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Speaker 2: stayed true to Kesha's kind of party girl spirit or

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Speaker 2: if she softened into something new, if she's headed into

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Speaker 2: a different direction. So we're going to make sure we

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Speaker 2: save a little bit of time after eleven o'clock to

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Speaker 2: play you that this morning as well as that after eleven.

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Speaker 2: Our travel Chorus has just had an incredible time in

1202
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Speaker 2: the Galapagus Islands and Ecuador. But he has come back

1203
01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:16,293
Speaker 2: with some really useful tips on his favorite travel apps.

1204
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Speaker 2: And these are apps that it doesn't matter where you're

1205
01:02:18,453 --> 01:02:21,213
Speaker 2: going in the world, they can be incredibly useful. They

1206
01:02:21,293 --> 01:02:24,413
Speaker 2: can smooth you run when you're traveling, not anything that's

1207
01:02:24,413 --> 01:02:25,893
Speaker 2: going to give away the game too much, because you

1208
01:02:25,933 --> 01:02:27,813
Speaker 2: want to have a little bit of a little bit

1209
01:02:27,813 --> 01:02:30,933
Speaker 2: of risk and jeopardy when you're on the road. But

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Speaker 2: he's got some really great tips for his favorite travel

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Speaker 2: apps that he's going to share when he joins us

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Speaker 2: after eleven o'clock. Our texpert is in next it's twenty

1213
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Speaker 2: five to eleven. You're jactaying. This is Newstalk ZEDV.

1214
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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 18: TAPO updating the two thousand and nine Joint Management Agreement

1216
01:02:48,533 --> 01:02:50,853
Speaker 18: between the Council and NATI two pilly to the critics

1217
01:02:50,973 --> 01:02:53,173
Speaker 18: argue that the treaty principles are in bedding co governants

1218
01:02:53,173 --> 01:02:56,653
Speaker 18: directly into council operations near of tapa's David Thruway. This

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Speaker 18: proposed update no public visibility, you would say, not true.

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Speaker 3: No, not true. We're set up a SUBCRI.

1221
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Speaker 4: But he now we're ready to present to the public

1222
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Speaker 4: and see what they say.

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Speaker 18: What did the public go? We're sick of this, we

1224
01:03:05,253 --> 01:03:05,733
Speaker 18: don't want it.

1225
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Speaker 6: Well, first have to go and do a payrin. What

1226
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Speaker 6: consultation looks like?

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Speaker 4: Is it a possibility?

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Speaker 18: What do you mean is consultation of possibility?

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01:03:12,253 --> 01:03:13,853
Speaker 2: Surely you're going to consult.

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Speaker 4: No, Well, it's an agreement between two party jar and

1231
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Speaker 4: the council.

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Speaker 18: So maybe no consultation. David back Monday from six am.

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Speaker 18: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the land Driver Discovery News

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Speaker 18: Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two to eleven on news Talk ZEDB. Open ai

1236
01:03:29,493 --> 01:03:32,373
Speaker 2: is the company behind chat GPT and now their top

1237
01:03:32,493 --> 01:03:34,813
Speaker 2: talent is being poached by some of the other big

1238
01:03:34,893 --> 01:03:39,453
Speaker 2: tech companies. Four crazy amounts of money. Our textbook paulstine

1239
01:03:39,493 --> 01:03:42,413
Speaker 2: House is waiting for his phone to light up. He's

1240
01:03:42,453 --> 01:03:45,693
Speaker 2: just got us on Saturday mornings, one hundred million bucks.

1241
01:03:45,813 --> 01:03:46,573
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

1242
01:03:46,653 --> 01:03:49,733
Speaker 2: This for a scon bonus for a computer technician.

1243
01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:53,333
Speaker 19: So this is what Sam Altman, the CEO of open ai,

1244
01:03:53,533 --> 01:03:54,093
Speaker 19: has said.

1245
01:03:54,493 --> 01:03:56,533
Speaker 2: People are being poached for right.

1246
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,413
Speaker 19: And so they must It must be like employees that

1247
01:03:58,453 --> 01:04:00,173
Speaker 19: are in his top ranks have come to and said,

1248
01:04:00,213 --> 01:04:03,213
Speaker 19: buddy there, yeah, I've got this offer.

1249
01:04:03,333 --> 01:04:04,653
Speaker 2: What can you do for me?

1250
01:04:04,773 --> 01:04:06,973
Speaker 19: And I don't know, he's probably the same to see ya,

1251
01:04:07,253 --> 01:04:08,973
Speaker 19: or he's reluctantly said, see yea, I.

1252
01:04:08,973 --> 01:04:12,373
Speaker 2: Know if you work from home every second Thursday, yeah

1253
01:04:12,533 --> 01:04:14,213
Speaker 2: about right in summer.

1254
01:04:15,213 --> 01:04:17,453
Speaker 19: But that's just the staggering number, isn't it. I mean

1255
01:04:17,453 --> 01:04:19,413
Speaker 19: these are the types of numbers you typically hear for

1256
01:04:20,013 --> 01:04:23,373
Speaker 19: you know, any of our stars or your like big

1257
01:04:23,413 --> 01:04:27,613
Speaker 19: Hollywood A listers, And these are like nerdy folks working

1258
01:04:27,653 --> 01:04:30,613
Speaker 19: out okay, working out the future of AI. I guess

1259
01:04:30,693 --> 01:04:32,533
Speaker 19: so maybe they do need to be paid this sort

1260
01:04:32,573 --> 01:04:35,053
Speaker 19: of money like these big like these other big names

1261
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Speaker 19: we know about.

1262
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Speaker 3: But it certainly has.

1263
01:04:38,373 --> 01:04:41,813
Speaker 19: Been ruffling feathers. There was every week Meta does a

1264
01:04:41,813 --> 01:04:45,133
Speaker 19: big like all hands meeting, and this came up in

1265
01:04:45,173 --> 01:04:48,133
Speaker 19: there all hands meeting, and they kind of addressed it

1266
01:04:48,173 --> 01:04:50,493
Speaker 19: and kind of couched it, and they were sort of saying, well,

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01:04:50,773 --> 01:04:53,933
Speaker 19: it wasn't a one hundred million dollars signing bonus. It

1268
01:04:54,013 --> 01:04:57,933
Speaker 19: was structured maybe slightly differently. So maybe they're earning one

1269
01:04:57,973 --> 01:05:00,533
Speaker 19: hundred million dollars and being paid twenty five million dollars

1270
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Speaker 19: a year, But even then I wouldn't say no to that.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask this though? So our individuals and the

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01:05:09,093 --> 01:05:12,933
Speaker 2: expertise that individuals bring, are they so valuable in the space?

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01:05:13,173 --> 01:05:15,613
Speaker 2: Are there people who are so unique with what they

1274
01:05:15,653 --> 01:05:19,693
Speaker 2: bring to AI development that they can possibly justify this

1275
01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:22,533
Speaker 2: kind of spending, you know, like it is one person

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01:05:22,573 --> 01:05:25,573
Speaker 2: worth one hundred million dollars versus another five people for

1277
01:05:25,933 --> 01:05:27,573
Speaker 2: five million dollars each, you know what I mean?

1278
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Speaker 19: I would only suggest that quite possibly, I think there's

1279
01:05:33,533 --> 01:05:35,773
Speaker 19: a real shortage of people who have experience in this

1280
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Speaker 19: area and what we're seeing probably unlike other technologies that

1281
01:05:42,133 --> 01:05:44,493
Speaker 19: have come about, a lot of these AI folks have

1282
01:05:44,613 --> 01:05:46,653
Speaker 19: kind of been dabbling with some of the stuff in

1283
01:05:47,133 --> 01:05:49,373
Speaker 19: a research capacity. You know, a lot of them have

1284
01:05:49,453 --> 01:05:54,253
Speaker 19: probably been around academic or academic adjacent institutions. I mean

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Speaker 19: Open AI had a whole nonprofit kind of part to it,

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01:05:58,733 --> 01:06:01,173
Speaker 19: and then chat GPT's part of their kind of commercial

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Speaker 19: arm and so these I think were folks who had

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Speaker 19: kind of yeah, really dedicated themselves to some of this work,

1289
01:06:08,893 --> 01:06:11,053
Speaker 19: and now they're obviously seeing the fruits of their labor.

1290
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Speaker 19: And I don't think that there are that many who

1291
01:06:14,093 --> 01:06:17,253
Speaker 19: would be at that caliber, but certainly those who those

1292
01:06:17,293 --> 01:06:18,853
Speaker 19: who are kind of like leading the charge and have

1293
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Speaker 19: and writing the papers and being deep into this research, Yeah,

1294
01:06:23,013 --> 01:06:26,093
Speaker 19: commanding serious dollars. I mean, this is the just have

1295
01:06:26,133 --> 01:06:29,933
Speaker 19: to remember this is the hottest technology. And I know

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01:06:29,973 --> 01:06:31,813
Speaker 19: we talk about a lot of things, and over the years,

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01:06:31,893 --> 01:06:33,733
Speaker 19: you and I've talked about things, and I've seen things

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01:06:33,813 --> 01:06:36,493
Speaker 19: come and seeing things go. God, look, we don't even

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Speaker 19: get me started on the three dtvs and things like that.

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Speaker 19: But this is actually but this is different, right, This

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01:06:42,413 --> 01:06:46,333
Speaker 19: feels like a real step change. And these big companies

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01:06:46,613 --> 01:06:49,693
Speaker 19: like look at Google, right, their whole livelihood has been

1303
01:06:50,253 --> 01:06:55,373
Speaker 19: around data and search and connecting dots, and now AIS

1304
01:06:55,453 --> 01:06:58,613
Speaker 19: come in and potentially up ending their entire business. So

1305
01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:01,853
Speaker 19: would you take one hundred million dollar bet on a

1306
01:07:01,893 --> 01:07:02,853
Speaker 19: guy a girl?

1307
01:07:03,693 --> 01:07:07,133
Speaker 2: Maybe if you hold a few come like Meta, you've

1308
01:07:07,133 --> 01:07:10,293
Speaker 2: gone hundred million bucks, right, Like that's the thing. Everything's relative,

1309
01:07:10,293 --> 01:07:14,573
Speaker 2: like one hundred million dollars exactly to another, to another company.

1310
01:07:14,693 --> 01:07:16,853
Speaker 2: But it does set a very high standard when it

1311
01:07:16,893 --> 01:07:19,853
Speaker 2: comes to when it comes to attracting talent. I think

1312
01:07:19,853 --> 01:07:24,333
Speaker 2: you're right though, Like the if even only a ten

1313
01:07:24,373 --> 01:07:26,973
Speaker 2: percent of the hype for AI at least in the

1314
01:07:27,013 --> 01:07:30,493
Speaker 2: next couple of years is warranted, it's the kind of

1315
01:07:30,493 --> 01:07:35,493
Speaker 2: technology that has the potential to upset the power balance

1316
01:07:35,533 --> 01:07:37,733
Speaker 2: between the big tech companies. Right. So we've seen the

1317
01:07:37,813 --> 01:07:41,213
Speaker 2: lights of Apple and Google and Meta dominate for the

1318
01:07:41,293 --> 01:07:44,293
Speaker 2: last you know, ten or twenty years, and all of

1319
01:07:44,333 --> 01:07:46,173
Speaker 2: a sudden that could be about to change and change

1320
01:07:46,253 --> 01:07:48,413
Speaker 2: super quickly, which is what's kind of interesting.

1321
01:07:48,973 --> 01:07:51,333
Speaker 19: Yeah, unless they do something drastic, right.

1322
01:07:51,293 --> 01:07:53,573
Speaker 2: Unless there's been a hundrellion dollars on talent, Yeah, yeah,

1323
01:07:53,613 --> 01:07:55,053
Speaker 2: exactly on the I think.

1324
01:07:55,093 --> 01:07:56,693
Speaker 19: And I think that they're desperate. I think some of

1325
01:07:56,773 --> 01:07:59,613
Speaker 19: these companies, like you know, open ai, was a nothing

1326
01:07:59,813 --> 01:08:03,173
Speaker 19: and it's become the company, like chet GPT has become

1327
01:08:03,773 --> 01:08:06,893
Speaker 19: the word has become the Google of you know what

1328
01:08:06,973 --> 01:08:11,053
Speaker 19: Google is to search, they are to ai? And would

1329
01:08:11,053 --> 01:08:14,853
Speaker 19: you pay for that? Look at your trillion, multi trillion

1330
01:08:14,853 --> 01:08:16,853
Speaker 19: dollar companies and you're like, okay, rounding.

1331
01:08:16,533 --> 01:08:19,013
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, maybe maybe we will. Yeah, all right, Paul, Look,

1332
01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:20,973
Speaker 2: if you need a referee, we certainly don't want to

1333
01:08:21,013 --> 01:08:23,253
Speaker 2: lose you on Saturday morning here. You need a referee

1334
01:08:23,293 --> 01:08:25,453
Speaker 2: if you're looking for you know, we're always here, So

1335
01:08:26,693 --> 01:08:29,413
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time as always. Our texpert Paul Stenhouse.

1336
01:08:29,453 --> 01:08:32,653
Speaker 2: Before eleven o'clock, rude climb passes in the garden talking

1337
01:08:32,733 --> 01:08:35,333
Speaker 2: too much water. I think that's going to be a

1338
01:08:35,333 --> 01:08:39,253
Speaker 2: problem affecting hundreds of thousands of gardens around the country.

1339
01:08:39,253 --> 01:08:41,053
Speaker 2: There are a few little things you can do if

1340
01:08:41,093 --> 01:08:43,653
Speaker 2: your place has been completely sodden and undated over the

1341
01:08:43,733 --> 01:08:45,733
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, so he will share his tips

1342
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Speaker 2: very shortly. Next up, our personal finance experts here with

1343
01:08:48,533 --> 01:08:52,733
Speaker 2: a very simple test that asks can I invest sixteen

1344
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Speaker 2: to eleven a.

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01:08:53,493 --> 01:08:55,013
Speaker 3: Little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepre

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Speaker 1: dot cot INZ.

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Speaker 3: For high quality supplements, use talks B.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen two eleven on News Talks EDB. It's called the

1350
01:09:06,453 --> 01:09:09,813
Speaker 2: can I invest Test, the questions you should be asking

1351
01:09:09,813 --> 01:09:12,893
Speaker 2: yourself before any significant purchase that might get you into

1352
01:09:12,893 --> 01:09:16,373
Speaker 2: more debt than you had anticipated. Ed McKnight from OPI's

1353
01:09:16,373 --> 01:09:18,253
Speaker 2: partners is here with the details. This morning, Hey, yed

1354
01:09:19,173 --> 01:09:21,853
Speaker 2: oh Jack, nice to talk to you. Yeah, nice to

1355
01:09:21,893 --> 01:09:25,133
Speaker 2: be speaking with you. So when would the can I

1356
01:09:25,213 --> 01:09:28,173
Speaker 2: invest test be appropriate to be used?

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01:09:28,973 --> 01:09:31,613
Speaker 9: So we often use this with a lot of our clients.

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01:09:31,613 --> 01:09:34,453
Speaker 9: So we're thinking about buying an investment property, and especially

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01:09:34,493 --> 01:09:38,413
Speaker 9: today with the high interest rates that we've seen, the

1360
01:09:38,453 --> 01:09:40,893
Speaker 9: rent for your investment property might not cover all of

1361
01:09:40,933 --> 01:09:44,053
Speaker 9: your costs and so you might have one hundred dollars

1362
01:09:44,093 --> 01:09:45,653
Speaker 9: a week top up that you've got to make to

1363
01:09:45,693 --> 01:09:48,333
Speaker 9: an investment property. So if we're ever dealing with a

1364
01:09:48,333 --> 01:09:50,453
Speaker 9: client or a couple who's saying, look, I'm not sure

1365
01:09:50,453 --> 01:09:52,693
Speaker 9: if we can afford that, we always say, well, before

1366
01:09:52,733 --> 01:09:56,053
Speaker 9: you take on any debt, why don't you just try

1367
01:09:56,173 --> 01:09:58,693
Speaker 9: for the next three months, setting aside that one hundred,

1368
01:09:58,693 --> 01:10:00,893
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty dollars a week, whatever it happens

1369
01:10:00,893 --> 01:10:04,773
Speaker 9: to be, and automatically transfer that to a separate account,

1370
01:10:04,813 --> 01:10:07,853
Speaker 9: and just make sure you really can afford that. And

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01:10:07,893 --> 01:10:10,613
Speaker 9: then if you can do that for three months and

1372
01:10:10,653 --> 01:10:12,893
Speaker 9: you've seen the money pile up in your account, great,

1373
01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:16,573
Speaker 9: You've proven to yourself that you really can invest. And

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Speaker 9: I think this applies not just with investment properties, but

1375
01:10:20,093 --> 01:10:23,173
Speaker 9: with all types of investing. If I think about myself

1376
01:10:23,213 --> 01:10:27,093
Speaker 9: when I recently bought my first time after buy investment properties,

1377
01:10:27,133 --> 01:10:29,893
Speaker 9: so many years I was renting. And then when you

1378
01:10:29,933 --> 01:10:32,053
Speaker 9: don't buy a house, often you know, with all of

1379
01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:35,733
Speaker 9: your costs, your rates, insurance, you're paying a big mortgage,

1380
01:10:36,133 --> 01:10:37,973
Speaker 9: you end up paying more than you did in rent.

1381
01:10:38,133 --> 01:10:41,093
Speaker 9: Now that's okay, But like most keywis, you grab it

1382
01:10:41,093 --> 01:10:43,293
Speaker 9: old below, you turn it over, you've got the back

1383
01:10:43,333 --> 01:10:45,973
Speaker 9: of it. You find a mortgage calculator, and you do

1384
01:10:46,013 --> 01:10:48,773
Speaker 9: some quick thumbs and you look at your partner or

1385
01:10:48,813 --> 01:10:51,093
Speaker 9: yourself in the mirror if you're single, and you say,

1386
01:10:51,213 --> 01:10:52,213
Speaker 9: could I afford that?

1387
01:10:52,773 --> 01:10:54,293
Speaker 20: Yeh, she'll be roight.

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01:10:55,293 --> 01:11:00,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you all right? Yeah, I think it's

1389
01:11:00,813 --> 01:11:04,253
Speaker 2: such a smart idea to actually not just wait three months,

1390
01:11:04,533 --> 01:11:07,333
Speaker 2: but to really purposefully put that money aside into a

1391
01:11:07,333 --> 01:11:09,813
Speaker 2: different account, because often people just say, well, you know,

1392
01:11:09,813 --> 01:11:11,573
Speaker 2: even if they're running a budget, they'll say, I spend

1393
01:11:11,573 --> 01:11:13,853
Speaker 2: this monch this week and this much on that. But actually,

1394
01:11:13,893 --> 01:11:21,293
Speaker 2: once you are like experiencing you know, less less money

1395
01:11:21,373 --> 01:11:23,533
Speaker 2: for other things because you're putting that money in a

1396
01:11:23,533 --> 01:11:26,693
Speaker 2: different account expendable income, then all of a sudden you

1397
01:11:26,773 --> 01:11:28,973
Speaker 2: have a much better flavor for whether or not you

1398
01:11:29,013 --> 01:11:32,133
Speaker 2: could weather additional storms, you know, like, for example, if

1399
01:11:32,133 --> 01:11:35,173
Speaker 2: you had an investment property and it didn't have tenants

1400
01:11:35,173 --> 01:11:36,973
Speaker 2: for a few months, so something like that could come up,

1401
01:11:37,013 --> 01:11:38,493
Speaker 2: it could cause a real shock otherwise.

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01:11:39,333 --> 01:11:41,333
Speaker 9: And the other thing, the other place I find it

1403
01:11:41,373 --> 01:11:44,293
Speaker 9: really useful is if you're thinking about I'm doing a

1404
01:11:44,373 --> 01:11:46,533
Speaker 9: higher purchase. Say you want to buy a new Count,

1405
01:11:46,693 --> 01:11:47,853
Speaker 9: or you want to buy a new car and you've

1406
01:11:47,853 --> 01:11:49,893
Speaker 9: got to take out a loan for it. It's really

1407
01:11:50,013 --> 01:11:52,373
Speaker 9: easy to think about, Wow, my life's going to be

1408
01:11:52,413 --> 01:11:54,853
Speaker 9: so good once I've bought that car. My life's going

1409
01:11:54,893 --> 01:11:56,973
Speaker 9: to be so much better once I've got that Count.

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01:11:57,213 --> 01:12:00,493
Speaker 9: But I often call those kinds of expenditure bubblegum debt,

1411
01:12:00,773 --> 01:12:03,213
Speaker 9: because just like bubblegum, you pop that in your mouth

1412
01:12:03,253 --> 01:12:05,293
Speaker 9: and you're like, oh, it tastes lovely, lovely and sweet.

1413
01:12:05,453 --> 01:12:05,973
Speaker 3: I love this.

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01:12:06,413 --> 01:12:09,093
Speaker 9: But then the trouble with bubblegum is that after you've

1415
01:12:09,133 --> 01:12:11,413
Speaker 9: tewed it for a while, it starts to get really

1416
01:12:11,493 --> 01:12:14,013
Speaker 9: yuck and you don't like it anymore. And what I

1417
01:12:14,053 --> 01:12:17,733
Speaker 9: often see with car debts or higher purchases, it's great

1418
01:12:17,733 --> 01:12:19,653
Speaker 9: at the start, you love having that new thing you

1419
01:12:19,693 --> 01:12:22,533
Speaker 9: wanted to buy. But with debt, it's the bubblegum. You

1420
01:12:22,573 --> 01:12:25,053
Speaker 9: can't spit out because you have to keep making that

1421
01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:28,373
Speaker 9: payment again and again and again until you've paid that off.

1422
01:12:28,573 --> 01:12:31,413
Speaker 9: And with the can I invest tests, all was saying

1423
01:12:31,533 --> 01:12:35,373
Speaker 9: is try seeing what life is like, because you might

1424
01:12:35,453 --> 01:12:38,613
Speaker 9: find that actually, we don't like having to put it

1425
01:12:38,653 --> 01:12:41,013
Speaker 9: aside one hundred bucks or ninety bucks a week for

1426
01:12:41,093 --> 01:12:44,173
Speaker 9: that car payment. We can't really afford that. Well, it's

1427
01:12:44,213 --> 01:12:47,133
Speaker 9: better to know before you take out that debt until

1428
01:12:47,133 --> 01:12:49,333
Speaker 9: waiting until laughter you've got it and you think, okay,

1429
01:12:49,653 --> 01:12:51,973
Speaker 9: we bought that new car, but actually it's lost value

1430
01:12:51,973 --> 01:12:54,333
Speaker 9: because we drove it off the lot and we don't

1431
01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:56,773
Speaker 9: really like this car payment yeah.

1432
01:12:56,613 --> 01:12:58,573
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You're speaking my language of their things.

1433
01:12:58,733 --> 01:12:58,813
Speaker 3: Ed.

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01:12:58,853 --> 01:13:01,173
Speaker 2: That's really really good advice. In fact, my thing is

1435
01:13:02,733 --> 01:13:06,613
Speaker 2: unless there are you know, extreme circumstances. I'm real, I'm

1436
01:13:06,613 --> 01:13:08,973
Speaker 2: probably speaking of privilege here. You never want to go

1437
01:13:09,013 --> 01:13:12,493
Speaker 2: into debt for a car, that's my car is no

1438
01:13:12,533 --> 01:13:15,093
Speaker 2: an investment. Thank you so much. You appreciate your time.

1439
01:13:15,173 --> 01:13:18,373
Speaker 2: Evening night. From Opie's Partner's ten to eleven non news talks, he'd.

1440
01:13:18,133 --> 01:13:22,253
Speaker 1: Be guarding with still sharp one hundred bucks of free

1441
01:13:22,253 --> 01:13:24,853
Speaker 1: accessories on selected chainsaws.

1442
01:13:25,213 --> 01:13:27,213
Speaker 2: Eight to eleven non news talks, he'd be a man

1443
01:13:27,253 --> 01:13:29,653
Speaker 2: and the Gardener's rude climb past. And he is the

1444
01:13:29,693 --> 01:13:31,773
Speaker 2: master of the understatement. He sent me a note this

1445
01:13:31,813 --> 01:13:34,573
Speaker 2: week that begins with these words. So far this winter

1446
01:13:34,653 --> 01:13:37,213
Speaker 2: of ours has been pretty wet. Oh, I think it's

1447
01:13:37,213 --> 01:13:41,453
Speaker 2: past you, sir, But have.

1448
01:13:41,493 --> 01:13:42,293
Speaker 20: We did you?

1449
01:13:42,893 --> 01:13:43,293
Speaker 3: Spotty?

1450
01:13:43,453 --> 01:13:44,813
Speaker 11: Or the typical thing?

1451
01:13:45,013 --> 01:13:46,533
Speaker 3: That's what it's about, isn't it?

1452
01:13:47,013 --> 01:13:49,333
Speaker 11: But it's also causing a lot of troubles. But by

1453
01:13:49,373 --> 01:13:54,853
Speaker 11: the way, goodness me two cars? Yeah, which one did

1454
01:13:54,893 --> 01:13:55,653
Speaker 11: you see?

1455
01:13:56,453 --> 01:13:59,893
Speaker 2: I saw the colorful one. I don't know what I saw.

1456
01:13:59,933 --> 01:14:04,893
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say, yeah, I mean yeah, well so

1457
01:14:04,973 --> 01:14:07,773
Speaker 2: not only the two cars. I actually say, my favorite birds, sorry,

1458
01:14:07,773 --> 01:14:09,213
Speaker 2: we'll come back to the to the rain in just

1459
01:14:09,253 --> 01:14:13,453
Speaker 2: a moment, are the hummingbirds. I could watch all day.

1460
01:14:13,693 --> 01:14:17,493
Speaker 2: They are incredible, Like they move like the Snitch moves

1461
01:14:17,533 --> 01:14:19,213
Speaker 2: and the Harry Potter films. And I know that's not

1462
01:14:19,253 --> 01:14:20,933
Speaker 2: a very good analogy, but the fact that they can

1463
01:14:21,013 --> 01:14:24,253
Speaker 2: kind of go forwards and backwards, it's just so amazing.

1464
01:14:24,333 --> 01:14:27,013
Speaker 2: I could honestly, I find them mesmerizing. So yeah, it's

1465
01:14:27,053 --> 01:14:28,373
Speaker 2: a real treat to be able.

1466
01:14:28,213 --> 01:14:32,853
Speaker 11: To and it would be wonderful. Yeah, and anyway, jealous,

1467
01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:35,333
Speaker 11: I've never been in I've never been in Costa Rica.

1468
01:14:35,333 --> 01:14:38,013
Speaker 11: I've been next door, of course, in Panama, Finish of

1469
01:14:38,013 --> 01:14:40,613
Speaker 11: Ala Equid or all these places, but never in Costa Rica.

1470
01:14:40,653 --> 01:14:43,013
Speaker 11: I've always wanted to go there, So I'll ever chat

1471
01:14:43,053 --> 01:14:45,573
Speaker 11: about that another day, though, very.

1472
01:14:45,453 --> 01:14:47,253
Speaker 2: Good, we'll have to. I think it would be your

1473
01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:49,013
Speaker 2: kind of place. I think twenty five percent of the

1474
01:14:49,013 --> 01:14:51,173
Speaker 2: country has been given over to national park, so I

1475
01:14:51,173 --> 01:14:54,173
Speaker 2: think it's just the optimistic that would be a client

1476
01:14:54,213 --> 01:14:55,533
Speaker 2: pass kind of the part of the world.

1477
01:14:56,613 --> 01:14:59,013
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Auro trucial production kind of world.

1478
01:14:59,693 --> 01:15:05,453
Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, to the rain, it's if it rains.

1479
01:15:05,213 --> 01:15:08,213
Speaker 11: Too much, and your plans are constantly inundated with water.

1480
01:15:08,653 --> 01:15:11,213
Speaker 11: Your roots do not know where the heck to go.

1481
01:15:11,693 --> 01:15:14,453
Speaker 11: It's a hazard for the plants. You get fight top trae,

1482
01:15:14,493 --> 01:15:18,133
Speaker 11: you get pity and fusarium, i'm malaria, all sorts of

1483
01:15:18,173 --> 01:15:20,773
Speaker 11: root roots. So this is what we're from now on

1484
01:15:20,933 --> 01:15:22,893
Speaker 11: talk back radio. I bet you we'll get a hell

1485
01:15:22,893 --> 01:15:26,293
Speaker 11: of a lot of questions about a whole hedge rows

1486
01:15:26,693 --> 01:15:29,613
Speaker 11: dying as a result of that. So I just want

1487
01:15:29,653 --> 01:15:33,773
Speaker 11: to say, you know, keep your keep your stuff clean

1488
01:15:33,853 --> 01:15:36,293
Speaker 11: if you like, clean of water, if you get if

1489
01:15:36,333 --> 01:15:41,413
Speaker 11: it's on an angle, why not get nice little.

1490
01:15:41,413 --> 01:15:41,813
Speaker 19: If you like.

1491
01:15:42,773 --> 01:15:44,813
Speaker 11: You know places that you can actually get rid of

1492
01:15:44,893 --> 01:15:48,413
Speaker 11: the water. Just steer it away, steer it to the neighbors,

1493
01:15:48,413 --> 01:15:55,613
Speaker 11: for instance, which is always very very good. Anyway, Yeah,

1494
01:15:55,853 --> 01:15:58,693
Speaker 11: you go, But what's you quite off? You can see

1495
01:15:58,693 --> 01:16:01,413
Speaker 11: this with the stress of the plants, discoloration of the

1496
01:16:01,533 --> 01:16:05,213
Speaker 11: leaves that blisters and the leaf for you can pick

1497
01:16:05,253 --> 01:16:09,573
Speaker 11: it quite quickly, and it is really hard check to

1498
01:16:09,573 --> 01:16:12,733
Speaker 11: do anything about it. You've got to be quickly on

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01:16:12,773 --> 01:16:16,453
Speaker 11: the ball to get these things going. And you know,

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01:16:16,573 --> 01:16:19,973
Speaker 11: one of the good materials is to plant health boxes,

1501
01:16:20,413 --> 01:16:24,773
Speaker 11: lightbuster I like that name the plant help boxes lightbuster,

1502
01:16:25,253 --> 01:16:29,973
Speaker 11: and that can actually control some of these root rot

1503
01:16:30,013 --> 01:16:32,453
Speaker 11: species like fight offtra et cetera. As long as you

1504
01:16:32,573 --> 01:16:36,253
Speaker 11: are on the ball, that's basically what it is.

1505
01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:38,893
Speaker 5: A yeah, so I think so.

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01:16:39,693 --> 01:16:42,813
Speaker 2: A little bit of dital landscaping is very a smart idea.

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01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:43,013
Speaker 6: Right.

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01:16:43,013 --> 01:16:44,493
Speaker 2: You don't want to be digging a whole trench, but

1509
01:16:44,533 --> 01:16:46,653
Speaker 2: if you can just try and divert some of the

1510
01:16:47,333 --> 01:16:50,373
Speaker 2: some of that you've got it drainage away from from

1511
01:16:50,373 --> 01:16:55,693
Speaker 2: your most vulnerable plants. That makes a lot of especially.

1512
01:16:54,213 --> 01:16:57,053
Speaker 11: If you've got a slight hangar if you like in

1513
01:16:57,093 --> 01:17:00,093
Speaker 11: your garden, that you can actually take it away. So

1514
01:17:00,213 --> 01:17:02,813
Speaker 11: it's all The second thing is, and that's a really

1515
01:17:02,853 --> 01:17:05,533
Speaker 11: good one. Some of the plants are really good to

1516
01:17:05,573 --> 01:17:09,893
Speaker 11: put in big pots, like large pots, but they need

1517
01:17:09,933 --> 01:17:14,093
Speaker 11: to have holes, drainage holes, good drainage holes in the bottom,

1518
01:17:14,373 --> 01:17:17,493
Speaker 11: and check those drainage holes are not clogged. All these

1519
01:17:17,533 --> 01:17:21,333
Speaker 11: things count in this case and remove all And first

1520
01:17:21,373 --> 01:17:24,133
Speaker 11: is if you've got them on trees sources, remove their

1521
01:17:24,213 --> 01:17:28,413
Speaker 11: plants from the trees and sources and let them dry out. Honestly,

1522
01:17:28,413 --> 01:17:29,293
Speaker 11: it's the only way to go.

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01:17:30,053 --> 01:17:31,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I made the

1524
01:17:31,693 --> 01:17:33,693
Speaker 2: mistake last season with my passion for it. I didn't

1525
01:17:33,693 --> 01:17:36,333
Speaker 2: have big enough holes and my pots. So I learned

1526
01:17:36,373 --> 01:17:38,533
Speaker 2: that the hard way. But that's really really good advice

1527
01:17:38,573 --> 01:17:40,213
Speaker 2: because we're going to do even before we can at

1528
01:17:40,253 --> 01:17:42,453
Speaker 2: the moment to drown to dry out plants. After a

1529
01:17:42,453 --> 01:17:44,293
Speaker 2: couple of weeks we've had thank you so much, rude

1530
01:17:44,533 --> 01:17:46,813
Speaker 2: route climb passed in the garden for us these years,

1531
01:17:46,813 --> 01:17:49,813
Speaker 2: every Saturday morning it's almost eleven o'clock with Jack Tame

1532
01:17:49,853 --> 01:17:50,453
Speaker 2: on News Talks.

1533
01:17:50,493 --> 01:17:54,453
Speaker 1: He'd be Saturday mornings with Jack tay keeping the conversation

1534
01:17:54,653 --> 01:17:57,813
Speaker 1: going through the weekend with bpure dot Coat on ins

1535
01:17:57,813 --> 01:18:00,373
Speaker 1: here for high quality supplements used talks.

1536
01:18:00,253 --> 01:18:25,413
Speaker 5: 'b what any of you?

1537
01:18:25,453 --> 01:18:27,493
Speaker 2: With Jack Taime on News Talks, he'd be through to

1538
01:18:27,493 --> 01:18:29,173
Speaker 2: twelve o'clock and it's a bit of a week of

1539
01:18:29,293 --> 01:18:31,813
Speaker 2: firsts for us. We have broadcast the show from all

1540
01:18:31,853 --> 01:18:34,933
Speaker 2: sorts of places over the years. I've been doing a

1541
01:18:34,093 --> 01:18:37,613
Speaker 2: bit of a stock take over the course of the morning.

1542
01:18:37,733 --> 01:18:41,013
Speaker 2: I think we have probably broadcast this show from eight

1543
01:18:41,093 --> 01:18:44,573
Speaker 2: countries over the last twelve years or so, but we've

1544
01:18:44,573 --> 01:18:47,853
Speaker 2: added one this week. Costa Rica is where we're broadcasting

1545
01:18:47,893 --> 01:18:49,533
Speaker 2: from Live this morning. I've come here for a few

1546
01:18:49,613 --> 01:18:52,293
Speaker 2: days with the Farno. I've been dragging them across the

1547
01:18:52,373 --> 01:18:55,693
Speaker 2: country and what I've not described as a particularly relaxing

1548
01:18:55,733 --> 01:18:58,493
Speaker 2: holiday for anyone involved, but an adventure, which is what

1549
01:18:58,533 --> 01:19:01,453
Speaker 2: I was hoping for. And speaking of first, it really

1550
01:19:01,453 --> 01:19:04,253
Speaker 2: has been a few days of first for us here.

1551
01:19:04,333 --> 01:19:08,493
Speaker 2: So we've seen two can't We have seen sloths in

1552
01:19:08,573 --> 01:19:12,493
Speaker 2: the wild, We've seen an anteita in the wild, which

1553
01:19:12,493 --> 01:19:16,093
Speaker 2: has all been very exciting, feel very lucky indeed. And

1554
01:19:16,293 --> 01:19:18,013
Speaker 2: I had a bit of a first this morning, or

1555
01:19:18,053 --> 01:19:19,573
Speaker 2: the family had a bit of a first when we

1556
01:19:19,613 --> 01:19:22,533
Speaker 2: took our four month old for his very first swim

1557
01:19:22,693 --> 01:19:24,973
Speaker 2: in the ocean. Now I'd never done it with a

1558
01:19:24,973 --> 01:19:27,133
Speaker 2: baby before, Like I'd never taken a baby into the ocean,

1559
01:19:27,173 --> 01:19:29,293
Speaker 2: and I'd kind of been looking forward to the moment.

1560
01:19:29,493 --> 01:19:33,093
Speaker 2: Our family is a real ocean going family. We love

1561
01:19:33,173 --> 01:19:36,413
Speaker 2: swimming in the ocean, Like we're all big body surfers

1562
01:19:36,453 --> 01:19:39,173
Speaker 2: and you know, kind of grew up grimacing through cold

1563
01:19:39,293 --> 01:19:41,693
Speaker 2: water and everyone having their own wetsuit and that kind

1564
01:19:41,733 --> 01:19:44,213
Speaker 2: of thing. So I was looking forward to taking money

1565
01:19:44,373 --> 01:19:46,053
Speaker 2: in for a bit of a dip. But I didn't

1566
01:19:46,093 --> 01:19:48,293
Speaker 2: really think things through super well, so I took him in.

1567
01:19:48,373 --> 01:19:50,213
Speaker 2: I knew the water temperature would be okay. I went

1568
01:19:50,253 --> 01:19:53,053
Speaker 2: and checked it beforehand. Given we're in Costa Eco, we're

1569
01:19:53,053 --> 01:19:55,333
Speaker 2: relatively close to the equator. It's pretty tropical kind of

1570
01:19:55,373 --> 01:19:59,173
Speaker 2: temperatures are nice and comfortable, a clean beach. The waves

1571
01:19:59,173 --> 01:20:01,573
Speaker 2: aren't too nari or anything like that, although there are waves.

1572
01:20:01,893 --> 01:20:03,893
Speaker 2: But anyway, I got a bit excited. I took him in,

1573
01:20:03,973 --> 01:20:05,893
Speaker 2: put him in his litt natty little outfit, took him

1574
01:20:05,933 --> 01:20:09,973
Speaker 2: in and I was holding him so I had my

1575
01:20:10,093 --> 01:20:12,613
Speaker 2: backs to the wave and my back to the wave

1576
01:20:12,813 --> 01:20:17,413
Speaker 2: and my face towards the beach if you get my drift,

1577
01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:19,973
Speaker 2: and so I was holding him there facing me. So

1578
01:20:20,013 --> 01:20:21,933
Speaker 2: I was holding him at kind of arm length with

1579
01:20:22,013 --> 01:20:25,493
Speaker 2: the waves coming up and hitting me from behind. And

1580
01:20:25,573 --> 01:20:27,773
Speaker 2: you know how every now and then, if you're on

1581
01:20:27,813 --> 01:20:31,173
Speaker 2: a surf beach, there'll be like a double wave, even

1582
01:20:31,253 --> 01:20:33,333
Speaker 2: just in the shallows it. You can have a wave

1583
01:20:33,373 --> 01:20:36,533
Speaker 2: that's already broken and then another wave comes up behind it,

1584
01:20:36,613 --> 01:20:39,093
Speaker 2: and the two waves combine and there's kind of a

1585
01:20:39,133 --> 01:20:42,133
Speaker 2: force of waves. You can see where the story is going.

1586
01:20:42,973 --> 01:20:46,813
Speaker 2: With my highly disapproving wife watching on, I was holding

1587
01:20:46,893 --> 01:20:49,853
Speaker 2: MANI out. His first feel of seawater seemed perfectly fine.

1588
01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:52,533
Speaker 2: He was delighted. He was all going fine, he was

1589
01:20:52,613 --> 01:20:54,853
Speaker 2: feeling it didn't seem too cold, he wasn't shivering or anything.

1590
01:20:54,893 --> 01:20:57,093
Speaker 2: It was kind of giving me a few smiles. And

1591
01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,613
Speaker 2: then because I had my back to the waves, I

1592
01:20:59,653 --> 01:21:02,933
Speaker 2: didn't see a double wave coming, I came up behind me.

1593
01:21:03,373 --> 01:21:05,253
Speaker 2: I turned out I was far deeper than I should

1594
01:21:05,253 --> 01:21:07,813
Speaker 2: have been. It didn't knock me over, but the wave

1595
01:21:07,893 --> 01:21:12,573
Speaker 2: did crash into my four month old face. So but

1596
01:21:12,653 --> 01:21:16,093
Speaker 2: what had been a smile very quickly disappeared when he

1597
01:21:16,253 --> 01:21:19,213
Speaker 2: was frightened by the wave, and very quickly turned to tears.

1598
01:21:19,253 --> 01:21:22,413
Speaker 2: And his first swim lasted no more than about three minutes.

1599
01:21:22,453 --> 01:21:24,853
Speaker 2: It was an experience for all involved. But we're gonna

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01:21:24,853 --> 01:21:26,493
Speaker 2: need a little bit more practice, I think, before we

1601
01:21:26,573 --> 01:21:29,453
Speaker 2: let him out there by himself. Anyway, feel very lucky

1602
01:21:29,453 --> 01:21:31,653
Speaker 2: to have these kind of these kind of moments, but

1603
01:21:32,453 --> 01:21:34,253
Speaker 2: might need to think a bit more about it before

1604
01:21:34,253 --> 01:21:36,253
Speaker 2: I'd take him in for a dip tomorrow. Right now,

1605
01:21:36,293 --> 01:21:38,573
Speaker 2: it's ten fast eleven. You were Jactaime on New Storks,

1606
01:21:38,613 --> 01:21:42,813
Speaker 2: he'd be Jack tam Google someone from Umbrella Well Being

1607
01:21:42,893 --> 01:21:45,133
Speaker 2: is here with us this morning with some really interesting

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01:21:45,213 --> 01:21:48,533
Speaker 2: research into the benefits of getting outside with nature. Doesn't

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01:21:48,533 --> 01:21:50,213
Speaker 2: have to be with sloths and two guards and in

1610
01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:51,933
Speaker 2: the ocean or anything like that. No, it can just

1611
01:21:51,973 --> 01:21:55,133
Speaker 2: be somewhere nice and simple. And here's the thing, it's

1612
01:21:55,173 --> 01:21:58,653
Speaker 2: not physical benefits we're talking about this morning, Google. There

1613
01:21:58,653 --> 01:22:00,893
Speaker 2: are obvious kind of physical benefits, but actually a lot

1614
01:22:00,933 --> 01:22:04,493
Speaker 2: of recent research talks about the mental health benefits with

1615
01:22:04,653 --> 01:22:05,813
Speaker 2: being connected to nature.

1616
01:22:07,453 --> 01:22:11,173
Speaker 16: Yeah, Cura Jackets, it's and you sound like you and

1617
01:22:11,213 --> 01:22:13,893
Speaker 16: the family are doing your your bit to really improve

1618
01:22:13,933 --> 01:22:15,373
Speaker 16: your mental health by getting out and.

1619
01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:21,093
Speaker 2: About I'm improving my wife necessarily. Yeah, it's at our

1620
01:22:21,133 --> 01:22:21,893
Speaker 2: side this morning.

1621
01:22:22,533 --> 01:22:24,893
Speaker 16: Yeah, a little bit of trauma perhaps, but you know,

1622
01:22:25,013 --> 01:22:27,293
Speaker 16: that's that's all right. I could recommend a good psychologist

1623
01:22:27,333 --> 01:22:28,813
Speaker 16: in the future if you ever need one.

1624
01:22:28,893 --> 01:22:33,253
Speaker 2: So it was just such an it's such an amateur move,

1625
01:22:33,333 --> 01:22:36,293
Speaker 2: you know, like, don't put everyone knows that, you know,

1626
01:22:36,453 --> 01:22:37,373
Speaker 2: and you go.

1627
01:22:37,413 --> 01:22:39,893
Speaker 16: Yeah, but you get so focused on the kids, don't you,

1628
01:22:39,933 --> 01:22:41,773
Speaker 16: And you know, making sure they're having a good time,

1629
01:22:41,813 --> 01:22:43,573
Speaker 16: that sort of everything else goes out of your head

1630
01:22:43,573 --> 01:22:45,133
Speaker 16: of but it doesn't it you end up doing things.

1631
01:22:46,293 --> 01:22:52,093
Speaker 16: But yeah, look yeah, absolutely, I think for many of us.

1632
01:22:52,093 --> 01:22:55,453
Speaker 16: I mean, there are obvious benefits to being outside and nature,

1633
01:22:55,493 --> 01:22:58,253
Speaker 16: and often when I talk to people, you know, people

1634
01:22:58,293 --> 01:23:02,533
Speaker 16: have a semi spiritual connection. And I don't mean that

1635
01:23:02,573 --> 01:23:04,173
Speaker 16: in any dismissive way at all, but you know, a

1636
01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:08,653
Speaker 16: semi spiritual connection. Many people were nature and talk about

1637
01:23:08,693 --> 01:23:12,493
Speaker 16: that impact for them, which is great, and obvious physical

1638
01:23:12,493 --> 01:23:15,613
Speaker 16: benefits too, you know you're out there walking or running

1639
01:23:15,733 --> 01:23:18,053
Speaker 16: or cycling or trying to swim with a double wave

1640
01:23:18,133 --> 01:23:21,493
Speaker 16: or whatever it is. But you know, mental health benefits too,

1641
01:23:21,693 --> 01:23:25,613
Speaker 16: and we know that even just to getting like two

1642
01:23:25,773 --> 01:23:30,813
Speaker 16: or three hours of sustained time out in nature really

1643
01:23:30,853 --> 01:23:35,333
Speaker 16: helps reduce stress and improves people's sleep. And one of

1644
01:23:35,373 --> 01:23:39,133
Speaker 16: the one of the studies around this was the longitudinal study,

1645
01:23:39,173 --> 01:23:41,373
Speaker 16: because often that's the thing is you sort of people

1646
01:23:41,413 --> 01:23:43,373
Speaker 16: go out for a short time those years I feel

1647
01:23:43,373 --> 01:23:45,373
Speaker 16: better and it's like, well, you know, are you just

1648
01:23:45,413 --> 01:23:49,453
Speaker 16: saying that? But they've tracked twenty thousand people who moved

1649
01:23:50,533 --> 01:23:52,573
Speaker 16: who moved around the country. This was in the UK,

1650
01:23:53,053 --> 01:23:56,813
Speaker 16: and they found that those who moved to green spaces

1651
01:23:57,373 --> 01:24:00,293
Speaker 16: or so off and out into a rural area had

1652
01:24:00,333 --> 01:24:02,813
Speaker 16: an improven in their mental health that lasted over two

1653
01:24:02,893 --> 01:24:05,493
Speaker 16: years when they followed them up. So I think that's

1654
01:24:05,773 --> 01:24:08,053
Speaker 16: you know, that's a really good sort of indication about

1655
01:24:08,053 --> 01:24:11,253
Speaker 16: how long this benefit can last for us.

1656
01:24:11,933 --> 01:24:14,653
Speaker 2: That's interesting. What do they put it down to, Like,

1657
01:24:15,213 --> 01:24:17,973
Speaker 2: is it you know, can you work out why it

1658
01:24:17,973 --> 01:24:19,973
Speaker 2: gives us this benefit? Or is it just one of

1659
01:24:19,973 --> 01:24:23,933
Speaker 2: those kind of like to me, it's almost like cosmological.

1660
01:24:24,573 --> 01:24:27,573
Speaker 2: I think that's the right. I think that's right astrological.

1661
01:24:27,573 --> 01:24:30,053
Speaker 2: I can never well in the in that it's kind

1662
01:24:30,053 --> 01:24:32,653
Speaker 2: of a it's quite a it's quite a grounding and

1663
01:24:32,733 --> 01:24:36,333
Speaker 2: humbling experience to be with nature, because you realize, you know,

1664
01:24:36,373 --> 01:24:39,133
Speaker 2: in a world where we're so focused on ourselves in

1665
01:24:39,133 --> 01:24:42,933
Speaker 2: our immediate existence and the people in our lives, to

1666
01:24:43,413 --> 01:24:49,413
Speaker 2: be reminded of your relative insignificance and the kind of

1667
01:24:49,493 --> 01:24:51,453
Speaker 2: you know, the kind of beauty of the greater space

1668
01:24:51,493 --> 01:24:53,893
Speaker 2: that you've been brought and born into, I suppose can

1669
01:24:53,933 --> 01:24:55,973
Speaker 2: be quite a I don't know, it's kind of a

1670
01:24:56,493 --> 01:24:59,733
Speaker 2: I find it quite a humbling but also strangely nourishing thing.

1671
01:25:00,653 --> 01:25:03,413
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, And nourishing, I think is a great word. A.

1672
01:25:03,893 --> 01:25:05,813
Speaker 16: And I know that I have this season, you know,

1673
01:25:05,813 --> 01:25:07,773
Speaker 16: when I take the dogs for a walk, which I'm

1674
01:25:08,213 --> 01:25:10,253
Speaker 16: sort of trying to plan on doing today but in

1675
01:25:10,293 --> 01:25:12,773
Speaker 16: Wellington as the weather does not look like it's going

1676
01:25:12,813 --> 01:25:15,253
Speaker 16: to help me doing that. But even just getting out there,

1677
01:25:15,773 --> 01:25:19,013
Speaker 16: I just just feel a real relaxation. It's just I

1678
01:25:19,053 --> 01:25:24,893
Speaker 16: can just there's that sense of just relaxing and de stressing. Look,

1679
01:25:24,973 --> 01:25:27,213
Speaker 16: even when I stand out on our balcony and we've

1680
01:25:27,253 --> 01:25:30,613
Speaker 16: got this deck that sort of sits across the top

1681
01:25:30,653 --> 01:25:33,213
Speaker 16: of the trees, you just breathe in and it feels

1682
01:25:33,253 --> 01:25:34,933
Speaker 16: I don't know if this is true, but it feels

1683
01:25:34,973 --> 01:25:39,053
Speaker 16: like there's extra oxygen floating around and it's just like, ah,

1684
01:25:39,293 --> 01:25:45,493
Speaker 16: just I almost feel that the stress drip away, which is.

1685
01:25:45,453 --> 01:25:46,293
Speaker 2: You know, amazing.

1686
01:25:46,413 --> 01:25:48,693
Speaker 16: But look, I think the other thing too that a

1687
01:25:48,933 --> 01:25:51,653
Speaker 16: recent study twenty twenty five study has shown is the

1688
01:25:51,693 --> 01:25:55,413
Speaker 16: impact And this is fascinating. I found the impact actually

1689
01:25:55,453 --> 01:26:00,813
Speaker 16: on people's perception of pain. And they found that that

1690
01:26:01,613 --> 01:26:07,013
Speaker 16: people's experience of pain actually reduces when they are in nature.

1691
01:26:07,053 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 16: And this is they've looked at this in two ways.

1692
01:26:09,413 --> 01:26:11,453
Speaker 16: They asked people, you know, do you feel more or

1693
01:26:11,533 --> 01:26:11,893
Speaker 16: less pain?

1694
01:26:11,933 --> 01:26:13,333
Speaker 6: So the great thing.

1695
01:26:13,253 --> 01:26:15,813
Speaker 16: About this study was they were giving people electric shocks,

1696
01:26:16,373 --> 01:26:20,573
Speaker 16: which is classic old classic trek and psychology, shock your

1697
01:26:20,613 --> 01:26:22,053
Speaker 16: participants and see what they say.

1698
01:26:22,853 --> 01:26:24,693
Speaker 20: Tricky getting ethical approval, but there you go.

1699
01:26:25,733 --> 01:26:28,533
Speaker 16: So yeah, people said, yes, I rate the pain as

1700
01:26:28,653 --> 01:26:32,053
Speaker 16: less when I'm looking at a nature of scenic view.

1701
01:26:32,653 --> 01:26:36,533
Speaker 16: But not only did people say that, they also they

1702
01:26:36,613 --> 01:26:38,853
Speaker 16: were also scanning their brain at the same time with

1703
01:26:39,453 --> 01:26:42,853
Speaker 16: an MRI, a functional MRA, and they found that the

1704
01:26:43,013 --> 01:26:47,253
Speaker 16: strength of the pain signals in the brain was actually reduced,

1705
01:26:47,613 --> 01:26:52,333
Speaker 16: so suggesting that that nature has a real, an actual

1706
01:26:52,413 --> 01:26:56,333
Speaker 16: analgesic biological effect on us in our brains, which I

1707
01:26:56,413 --> 01:26:59,613
Speaker 16: just thought was quite an amazing study, isn't.

1708
01:26:59,653 --> 01:27:00,973
Speaker 9: It's just like, I mean, if I.

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Speaker 2: Was dondergoing an amputation or something like that, I think

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01:27:03,213 --> 01:27:05,853
Speaker 2: they'll still go for the harder stuff. But yeah, I

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01:27:05,853 --> 01:27:08,333
Speaker 2: mean that does it does kind of make sense? Yeah,

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01:27:08,413 --> 01:27:13,373
Speaker 2: I mean it kind of strangely intuitively makes sense. That

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01:27:13,453 --> 01:27:15,013
Speaker 2: sounds a bit whisking. I know it does sound a

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01:27:15,013 --> 01:27:18,373
Speaker 2: bit like lala, but yeah, I know I can believe

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01:27:18,413 --> 01:27:20,653
Speaker 2: it because I mean, if you feel better, like if

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01:27:20,693 --> 01:27:22,773
Speaker 2: you feel better going outside, you feel better, taking the

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01:27:22,813 --> 01:27:25,253
Speaker 2: dog for you feel better, you know, going and feeling

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01:27:25,253 --> 01:27:28,373
Speaker 2: the elements on your face, then is it crazy to

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01:27:28,413 --> 01:27:31,813
Speaker 2: think that actually you would feel less bad during a

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01:27:31,813 --> 01:27:34,813
Speaker 2: painful experience. I don't think it is yeah.

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01:27:34,253 --> 01:27:36,653
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, no, I know what you mean. There is

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01:27:36,693 --> 01:27:41,573
Speaker 16: something intuitively, oh yeah, that makes perfect sense and nice

1723
01:27:41,613 --> 01:27:44,573
Speaker 16: to but often, you know, people can just say, oh, well,

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01:27:44,853 --> 01:27:47,813
Speaker 16: you know, that's just people's perception, and that's still real.

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01:27:47,853 --> 01:27:50,293
Speaker 16: I'm not just dossing that at all. But noticing that

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01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:54,733
Speaker 16: it's even got, you know, an actual reduced pain signal

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01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:58,693
Speaker 16: in the brain, I thought was really amazing. I think

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01:27:58,733 --> 01:28:02,733
Speaker 16: the takeaway is getting out, getting out at least sort

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01:28:02,773 --> 01:28:05,533
Speaker 16: of two to three hours a week if you can,

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01:28:06,053 --> 01:28:09,133
Speaker 16: and doing that in blocks of at least thirty minutes.

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01:28:09,213 --> 01:28:11,773
Speaker 16: We know that that you need to be out there

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01:28:11,813 --> 01:28:14,613
Speaker 16: for at least about thirty minutes to rarely get that hit.

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01:28:14,733 --> 01:28:17,733
Speaker 16: So five minutes around the block at lunchtime, it's okay,

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01:28:17,733 --> 01:28:19,933
Speaker 16: there's nothing wrong with that, but you're not going to

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01:28:19,933 --> 01:28:22,773
Speaker 16: get the full benefit of being out in nature. So

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01:28:23,533 --> 01:28:25,853
Speaker 16: trying to and I know that's not easy for everybody

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01:28:25,893 --> 01:28:27,893
Speaker 16: if you're living in an urban area, but trying to

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01:28:27,933 --> 01:28:30,173
Speaker 16: get out at least two or three hours a week

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01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:33,413
Speaker 16: if possible, and at least in thirty minute chunks. If

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01:28:33,453 --> 01:28:34,333
Speaker 16: that's doable for you.

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01:28:34,893 --> 01:28:35,133
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:28:35,293 --> 01:28:37,413
Speaker 2: Nice, that's such good advice. I thanks so much. Doogle

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01:28:37,533 --> 01:28:40,613
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. As always, Google Subbland from Umbrella Well

1744
01:28:40,613 --> 01:28:43,493
Speaker 2: Being with us this morning It's seventeen past eleven Our

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01:28:43,533 --> 01:28:48,373
Speaker 2: travel correspondence and next with his all time favorite most

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01:28:48,413 --> 01:28:50,813
Speaker 2: trusted travel apps The Things that you need on your

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01:28:50,813 --> 01:28:53,173
Speaker 2: phone if you're heading off on your adventure.

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Speaker 1: Travel with Wendy wu Tours Where the World Is Yours book.

1749
01:28:57,053 --> 01:29:00,533
Speaker 2: Now when he passed the leave it Mike Yardley's our

1750
01:29:00,533 --> 01:29:02,333
Speaker 2: travel corresponding, good morning.

1751
01:29:03,013 --> 01:29:06,053
Speaker 20: I am gripped by the green eyed monster jectaim.

1752
01:29:07,333 --> 01:29:09,813
Speaker 2: It's so rich coming from you. I just feel like

1753
01:29:09,893 --> 01:29:12,173
Speaker 2: you that we can never hear those words out of

1754
01:29:12,173 --> 01:29:15,333
Speaker 2: Mike Godley's voice. I mean, he's You've spent the last

1755
01:29:15,453 --> 01:29:19,573
Speaker 2: month telling us about your excursions in the Galapagus Islands.

1756
01:29:21,453 --> 01:29:23,773
Speaker 20: This morning. I woke up this morning and I seem

1757
01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:25,853
Speaker 20: very jealous that all those people have been to an

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01:29:25,853 --> 01:29:29,653
Speaker 20: oasis concert overnight. I am so ends. And then I

1759
01:29:29,693 --> 01:29:31,173
Speaker 20: hear you in Costa Rica.

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01:29:31,453 --> 01:29:34,533
Speaker 2: Ah, I know, it's amazing. I'm very very lucky. I'm

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01:29:34,733 --> 01:29:36,493
Speaker 2: only here for I think we're here for like six

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01:29:36,573 --> 01:29:38,493
Speaker 2: days or a week or so. So we're not seeing

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01:29:38,533 --> 01:29:40,653
Speaker 2: all of the country. And I'm this is the first

1764
01:29:40,693 --> 01:29:44,333
Speaker 2: sort of dipping the toe into adventure with children, which

1765
01:29:44,413 --> 01:29:46,053
Speaker 2: is a new stage of life for me. And so

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01:29:46,093 --> 01:29:49,413
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of just trying to, you know, learn

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01:29:49,493 --> 01:29:52,493
Speaker 2: the balance between the things that I might have once

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01:29:52,573 --> 01:29:55,573
Speaker 2: done or the things that you know, might need to

1769
01:29:55,613 --> 01:29:57,893
Speaker 2: be held off a little bit. How many things can

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01:29:57,893 --> 01:30:00,773
Speaker 2: be crammed into a day, those sorts of things, you know,

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01:30:02,013 --> 01:30:05,733
Speaker 2: you know, whether or not the the the flooded four

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01:30:05,773 --> 01:30:08,613
Speaker 2: wheel drive tracks should be navigated today, or whether or

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01:30:08,653 --> 01:30:11,213
Speaker 2: not we should just go for a go go to

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01:30:11,253 --> 01:30:13,813
Speaker 2: the Tarsil road instead of that kind.

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, it's a good start.

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01:30:17,013 --> 01:30:19,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and great great to you know, to be in

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01:30:19,613 --> 01:30:22,813
Speaker 2: a place where we can expose the kids to a

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01:30:22,813 --> 01:30:25,613
Speaker 2: little bit of culture. So I'm very lucky, indeed, but

1779
01:30:25,693 --> 01:30:27,853
Speaker 2: this morning I wish we'd had you last week. Actually,

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01:30:27,893 --> 01:30:33,053
Speaker 2: you have some fantastic advice your favorite travel apps, and honestly,

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01:30:33,213 --> 01:30:36,773
Speaker 2: with the advent of cell phone technology in the digital age,

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01:30:36,973 --> 01:30:40,133
Speaker 2: traveling has arguably never been easier. So what is your

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01:30:40,253 --> 01:30:41,733
Speaker 2: preference to Google Maps?

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01:30:42,213 --> 01:30:45,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, I do love Google Maps if I'm road tripping,

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01:30:45,493 --> 01:30:48,573
Speaker 20: and obviously Google Maps has become a fixture in our lives.

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01:30:48,613 --> 01:30:51,573
Speaker 20: But if you're overseas, say on foot or on a

1787
01:30:51,613 --> 01:30:55,773
Speaker 20: bike or taking public transport, I actually reckon City Mapper

1788
01:30:56,333 --> 01:30:59,333
Speaker 20: is a better option. And the reason for that, Jack

1789
01:30:59,413 --> 01:31:02,373
Speaker 20: is that just as very very steavy the way it

1790
01:31:02,453 --> 01:31:05,533
Speaker 20: optimizes your journey to give you the quick quickest route

1791
01:31:05,573 --> 01:31:07,173
Speaker 20: from where you are and where you want to go.

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01:31:08,093 --> 01:31:10,173
Speaker 20: And then I've got some other little funny features like

1793
01:31:10,613 --> 01:31:14,013
Speaker 20: the walking and ciphering options will show you the calorie

1794
01:31:14,053 --> 01:31:16,733
Speaker 20: boon and compare it to food and drink, you know,

1795
01:31:16,853 --> 01:31:20,653
Speaker 20: like one and a half a larvees or a cheeseburger. Yeah, right,

1796
01:31:20,733 --> 01:31:24,653
Speaker 20: And then it's also integrated with Uber, so if you

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01:31:24,693 --> 01:31:26,893
Speaker 20: go on city Maper and you need an Ober, you

1798
01:31:26,893 --> 01:31:29,813
Speaker 20: can actually book it from that app and about four

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01:31:29,853 --> 01:31:30,973
Speaker 20: hundred cities worldwide.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well that's interesting. Yeah. I am usually a

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01:31:34,893 --> 01:31:37,133
Speaker 2: big fan of Google Maps as well, but I have

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01:31:37,253 --> 01:31:40,933
Speaker 2: been using ways well, okay, WAZD, which I think is

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01:31:41,093 --> 01:31:43,133
Speaker 2: they use that and maybe in Brazil and a few

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01:31:43,133 --> 01:31:44,693
Speaker 2: other countries as well, which is kind.

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01:31:44,533 --> 01:31:45,813
Speaker 20: Of very South America.

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01:31:45,893 --> 01:31:49,813
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they people add was very South America

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01:31:49,853 --> 01:31:52,493
Speaker 2: because that people add the hazards, so other moment. So

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01:31:52,653 --> 01:31:54,693
Speaker 2: when you're driving along, it says in one hundred and

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01:31:54,693 --> 01:31:57,613
Speaker 2: fifty meters there will be a giant pothole. And I

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01:31:57,653 --> 01:31:59,613
Speaker 2: mean in South America, every one hundred and fifty meters

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01:31:59,653 --> 01:32:02,773
Speaker 2: as a giant pothole. But these are the biggest of

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01:32:02,773 --> 01:32:04,893
Speaker 2: the big potholes. These are the Olympic sized swimming pool

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01:32:04,893 --> 01:32:07,293
Speaker 2: hothole potholes, so that could be quite useful too.

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01:32:09,373 --> 01:32:11,613
Speaker 20: I am I'm a virgo, so I have a tragic

1815
01:32:11,653 --> 01:32:15,133
Speaker 20: obsession trying to be a super organized So yeah, trip

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01:32:15,173 --> 01:32:17,293
Speaker 20: it is right up my street, Jack. So what you

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01:32:17,413 --> 01:32:20,613
Speaker 20: do is you get the app, you're loading your email address,

1818
01:32:21,773 --> 01:32:24,213
Speaker 20: send it all of your reservations in your boxings, you know,

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01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:27,413
Speaker 20: whether it's flightscar higher, hotels, tours, and tripp it just

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01:32:27,733 --> 01:32:33,213
Speaker 20: automatically curates the lot into this beautifully organized itinery and

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01:32:33,253 --> 01:32:35,333
Speaker 20: you can sync it with your calendar. You can send

1822
01:32:35,333 --> 01:32:39,013
Speaker 20: the trippet itinery to friends and family, really shareable, and

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01:32:39,053 --> 01:32:41,733
Speaker 20: then there's also a paid premium version which I've actually

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01:32:41,733 --> 01:32:44,893
Speaker 20: been checking out and it's very accurate. So it's got

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01:32:44,933 --> 01:32:47,893
Speaker 20: all these live smart features. So if you've got like

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01:32:47,933 --> 01:32:51,773
Speaker 20: a delay or disruption, you know, airport or whatever, you'll

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01:32:51,773 --> 01:32:54,973
Speaker 20: get a notification, you'll get real time risk alerts. So

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01:32:55,053 --> 01:32:57,853
Speaker 20: let's oppost you somewhere and there's a terror attack, Boom,

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01:32:57,893 --> 01:33:01,853
Speaker 20: it will tell you straight away, gate change information at

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01:33:01,853 --> 01:33:03,893
Speaker 20: the airport, all that sort of stuff. It's like a

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01:33:03,933 --> 01:33:04,773
Speaker 20: one stop shop.

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01:33:05,653 --> 01:33:08,413
Speaker 2: That's so good. Oh yeah, I mean that's I didn't

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01:33:08,413 --> 01:33:10,813
Speaker 2: even know that it existed. That sounds a really really

1834
01:33:10,893 --> 01:33:13,933
Speaker 2: useful little bit of technology. And what about for outdoorsy,

1835
01:33:14,093 --> 01:33:18,613
Speaker 2: nature loving travelers, whatever would you recommend? What should they download?

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01:33:18,973 --> 01:33:21,813
Speaker 20: There are so many options, but let me super quickly

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01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:25,213
Speaker 20: give you four. First of all, do not leave home

1838
01:33:25,253 --> 01:33:30,733
Speaker 20: without downloading all trails producer Libby and we are raving fans.

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01:33:31,693 --> 01:33:35,373
Speaker 20: There's over a four hundred and fifty thousand trails listed

1840
01:33:35,373 --> 01:33:38,893
Speaker 20: there at the moment, and it's regularly updated by the apps.

1841
01:33:38,933 --> 01:33:43,013
Speaker 20: Global users lots of searchable tracks wherever you happen to

1842
01:33:43,053 --> 01:33:46,253
Speaker 20: be or are heading to, and even for like off

1843
01:33:46,253 --> 01:33:50,933
Speaker 20: the grid hikes, you can easily use the downloadable maps

1844
01:33:51,253 --> 01:33:54,253
Speaker 20: and it will still be GPS tracking location available on

1845
01:33:54,333 --> 01:33:58,333
Speaker 20: those as well. For Stargaze and Jack iPhone users. A

1846
01:33:58,373 --> 01:34:00,693
Speaker 20: lot of iPhone users will have the night Sky at

1847
01:34:01,053 --> 01:34:05,613
Speaker 20: If you're on Android, download Delarium I love so Delarium.

1848
01:34:05,813 --> 01:34:09,413
Speaker 20: So with both apps you can pinpoint constellations and planets

1849
01:34:09,413 --> 01:34:13,013
Speaker 20: overhead by simply pointing your phone into the sky. And

1850
01:34:13,013 --> 01:34:15,013
Speaker 20: then there's all the other superical things like where is

1851
01:34:15,053 --> 01:34:17,413
Speaker 20: the International Space Station at the moment and when is

1852
01:34:17,413 --> 01:34:21,733
Speaker 20: it going to fly above me? Also speaking of big things,

1853
01:34:22,253 --> 01:34:26,653
Speaker 20: Peak Lens I love Peak Lens. So this app allows

1854
01:34:26,693 --> 01:34:29,533
Speaker 20: you just point your phone at any mountain pretty much

1855
01:34:29,573 --> 01:34:32,173
Speaker 20: in the world and you will find out what you

1856
01:34:32,213 --> 01:34:36,613
Speaker 20: were looking at. And similarly to your experiences in Costa Rica,

1857
01:34:37,413 --> 01:34:40,613
Speaker 20: I must mention birding. When I was an ecuador at

1858
01:34:40,693 --> 01:34:45,413
Speaker 20: Mishpi Lodge, I came across Merlin bird. This is such

1859
01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:49,773
Speaker 20: a cool lapse. So this swiftly identifies exactly what bird

1860
01:34:49,813 --> 01:34:53,133
Speaker 20: comes into view of your phone, and then it stacks

1861
01:34:53,173 --> 01:34:55,773
Speaker 20: with all these fun facts. It gives you bird call,

1862
01:34:55,893 --> 01:34:59,333
Speaker 20: so you can talk to the bird and it works worldwide,

1863
01:34:59,413 --> 01:35:02,533
Speaker 20: and it even worked on the house sparrows outside in

1864
01:35:02,613 --> 01:35:08,773
Speaker 20: my backyard this morning. Great fun, quietly addictive. Yeah, yeah

1865
01:35:08,853 --> 01:35:09,213
Speaker 20: very good.

1866
01:35:09,333 --> 01:35:11,653
Speaker 2: So do you could you know the neighborhood bird counts on.

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01:35:11,693 --> 01:35:13,693
Speaker 20: At the moment right, Yes, exactly.

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01:35:13,773 --> 01:35:14,853
Speaker 3: This would be great for that.

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01:35:15,013 --> 01:35:17,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be perfect for that. Okay, great, So

1870
01:35:17,573 --> 01:35:19,973
Speaker 2: what about for food and drink? Any good advice?

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01:35:20,493 --> 01:35:23,373
Speaker 20: Yeah, for food is I would say go with in

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01:35:23,453 --> 01:35:27,213
Speaker 20: the no local knowledge every time, and a really good

1873
01:35:27,333 --> 01:35:30,133
Speaker 20: app for that is Yelp. You may have come across

1874
01:35:30,253 --> 01:35:34,213
Speaker 20: yelp Jack. It's very popular in the States. In fact,

1875
01:35:34,253 --> 01:35:37,333
Speaker 20: I've noticed Americans they will use yelp, you know, sort

1876
01:35:37,333 --> 01:35:40,853
Speaker 20: of like second nature when they're going out. So it's

1877
01:35:40,853 --> 01:35:43,973
Speaker 20: actually available all around the world, but really good for

1878
01:35:44,493 --> 01:35:47,853
Speaker 20: staking up the best eats and the destination you're going to.

1879
01:35:48,213 --> 01:35:50,453
Speaker 20: You can book reservations directly in the app. You can

1880
01:35:50,533 --> 01:35:52,813
Speaker 20: order take away food on the app. So yeah, Yelp

1881
01:35:52,933 --> 01:35:56,373
Speaker 20: is fabulous. And if you're a bit of a coffee snob,

1882
01:35:56,493 --> 01:35:58,973
Speaker 20: oh my goodness. I've only recently come across this this

1883
01:35:59,253 --> 01:36:04,893
Speaker 20: roasters app r STRs and your Cup will run it over.

1884
01:36:05,373 --> 01:36:08,533
Speaker 20: So it's about seventeen thousand cafes and more than one

1885
01:36:08,573 --> 01:36:13,333
Speaker 20: hundred countries and it's all focused on specialty artisan roasters.

1886
01:36:13,333 --> 01:36:16,013
Speaker 20: There are a lot of news on this app, which

1887
01:36:16,053 --> 01:36:18,733
Speaker 20: I was impressed to see. But yeah, it'll come with

1888
01:36:18,893 --> 01:36:23,893
Speaker 20: like tasting notes and recommendations and reviews. R STRs really good.

1889
01:36:24,133 --> 01:36:26,933
Speaker 2: Oh nice, So I know you like finding kind of

1890
01:36:26,973 --> 01:36:29,693
Speaker 2: quirky sites and attractions on your travel. Is there an

1891
01:36:29,693 --> 01:36:30,893
Speaker 2: it for that?

1892
01:36:30,973 --> 01:36:31,413
Speaker 17: There is?

1893
01:36:31,933 --> 01:36:35,493
Speaker 20: I adore Atlas Obscurer. They have a website as well.

1894
01:36:35,533 --> 01:36:41,333
Speaker 20: It's all free, but they are nothing beats uncovering those offbeat, curious,

1895
01:36:41,533 --> 01:36:45,613
Speaker 20: less trafficked experiences, and Atlas Obscura has become like my

1896
01:36:45,773 --> 01:36:49,613
Speaker 20: holy Grail guide to fit in gym. So I checked

1897
01:36:49,613 --> 01:36:52,693
Speaker 20: this morning. I've currently got twenty thousand unexpected sites and

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01:36:52,773 --> 01:36:55,933
Speaker 20: landmarks worldwide and may each come with your own little

1899
01:36:55,933 --> 01:37:01,053
Speaker 20: curious story. So it's well worth a Atless Obscurer nice

1900
01:37:01,173 --> 01:37:01,453
Speaker 20: and what.

1901
01:37:01,413 --> 01:37:04,133
Speaker 2: Would be the most kind of creative new traveling that

1902
01:37:04,133 --> 01:37:05,053
Speaker 2: you've come across?

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01:37:05,413 --> 01:37:08,653
Speaker 20: Well, I haven't tried personally, but several of my mates

1904
01:37:08,653 --> 01:37:14,053
Speaker 20: have been swearing by nanny Bag. So it's essentially a

1905
01:37:14,093 --> 01:37:16,613
Speaker 20: problem solver that as to where you can leave your luggage.

1906
01:37:16,613 --> 01:37:19,573
Speaker 20: So let's suppose you're staying at an airbnb. You want

1907
01:37:19,613 --> 01:37:21,573
Speaker 20: to spend all day in that destination, but you've got

1908
01:37:21,613 --> 01:37:24,013
Speaker 20: to check out at ten, or perhaps you've got a

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01:37:24,053 --> 01:37:26,133
Speaker 20: few hours to kill somewhere but don't want to clatter

1910
01:37:26,213 --> 01:37:29,773
Speaker 20: your heavy suit case across cobblestones. This is where nanny

1911
01:37:29,773 --> 01:37:32,813
Speaker 20: Bag enters the fray. So nanny Bag links you up

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01:37:32,813 --> 01:37:38,733
Speaker 20: with like shopkeepers, hoteliers, businesses, train stations, anywhere that offers

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01:37:38,813 --> 01:37:41,773
Speaker 20: safe storage space for your baggage. So it comes to

1914
01:37:41,773 --> 01:37:45,093
Speaker 20: the location map, real time reviews, all the storage costs

1915
01:37:45,133 --> 01:37:46,813
Speaker 20: are listed and it's worldwide.

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01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:48,973
Speaker 3: Very cool, amazing.

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01:37:49,173 --> 01:37:51,893
Speaker 2: That's such a good idea, such a simple idea, but

1918
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Speaker 2: it's such a good idea. Yeah, okay, can I add

1919
01:37:54,373 --> 01:37:56,933
Speaker 2: one more? Mic Can I just say this is a

1920
01:37:56,973 --> 01:37:59,133
Speaker 2: really simple one, and I promise I'm not being paid

1921
01:37:59,173 --> 01:38:02,893
Speaker 2: to say this, but I use whys Do you use wise?

1922
01:38:03,133 --> 01:38:04,333
Speaker 20: Yes, I've come across wives.

1923
01:38:04,413 --> 01:38:04,773
Speaker 6: Yes.

1924
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Speaker 2: So it's basically it's like it's kind of like a

1925
01:38:08,413 --> 01:38:11,173
Speaker 2: like a debit card that you can use overseas, but

1926
01:38:11,253 --> 01:38:15,333
Speaker 2: they have much much more competitive rates for exchange rates

1927
01:38:15,333 --> 01:38:17,213
Speaker 2: than banks, so you kind of pay a small one

1928
01:38:17,213 --> 01:38:19,653
Speaker 2: off fee for each exchange that you do and you

1929
01:38:19,693 --> 01:38:21,693
Speaker 2: get the real time exchange rates. So if you google

1930
01:38:21,733 --> 01:38:24,173
Speaker 2: an exchange rate between countries, you get that as opposed

1931
01:38:24,213 --> 01:38:26,453
Speaker 2: to getting the bank one. And then you can set

1932
01:38:26,533 --> 01:38:29,733
Speaker 2: up on the app you can set up automatic transfers. So,

1933
01:38:29,773 --> 01:38:32,773
Speaker 2: for example, if the New Zealand dollar was really weak

1934
01:38:32,813 --> 01:38:34,973
Speaker 2: as it has been, against the against the green back.

1935
01:38:35,693 --> 01:38:38,813
Speaker 2: You can wait until you can say, right, if the

1936
01:38:38,933 --> 01:38:42,893
Speaker 2: US dollar hits sixty six cents at any time, then

1937
01:38:42,933 --> 01:38:45,213
Speaker 2: I want you to transfer the two hundred dollars I've

1938
01:38:45,213 --> 01:38:47,653
Speaker 2: got on here into US dollars immediately, so you can

1939
01:38:47,653 --> 01:38:50,533
Speaker 2: set up kind of a threshold where the automatic transfers happen.

1940
01:38:51,373 --> 01:38:53,053
Speaker 2: So I use that, And I also like having it

1941
01:38:53,093 --> 01:38:55,253
Speaker 2: because when you travel, I don't want to have my

1942
01:38:55,453 --> 01:38:57,693
Speaker 2: kind of credit card on me all the time because

1943
01:38:57,733 --> 01:39:00,053
Speaker 2: I feel like if I had it taken off me

1944
01:39:00,133 --> 01:39:02,413
Speaker 2: or was stolen or I lost it or something, then

1945
01:39:03,213 --> 01:39:05,053
Speaker 2: you know, potentially on the hook for a lot more money.

1946
01:39:05,293 --> 01:39:07,933
Speaker 2: And you can kind of you know, by having a

1947
01:39:07,933 --> 01:39:10,573
Speaker 2: preloaded debit card and the app wise that goes along

1948
01:39:10,653 --> 01:39:12,333
Speaker 2: with it, you can kind of stay on stay on

1949
01:39:12,373 --> 01:39:15,013
Speaker 2: top of things that way as well. That's my we tip.

1950
01:39:15,213 --> 01:39:17,653
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's a good recommendation. I know a number of

1951
01:39:17,693 --> 01:39:19,973
Speaker 20: people have been using it recently and yeah, they reckon.

1952
01:39:19,973 --> 01:39:21,373
Speaker 20: It's been very very trusty.

1953
01:39:21,653 --> 01:39:24,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so, I mean, it's it's just a visa

1954
01:39:24,613 --> 01:39:26,773
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's basically because you can get a

1955
01:39:26,773 --> 01:39:28,973
Speaker 2: physical visa card with it as well and the app,

1956
01:39:29,133 --> 01:39:31,013
Speaker 2: so you can use both, which I just find it.

1957
01:39:31,053 --> 01:39:33,573
Speaker 2: I find it super reliable and like so for this trip,

1958
01:39:33,613 --> 01:39:35,973
Speaker 2: because we were going to Canada and Costa Rica, I

1959
01:39:36,013 --> 01:39:38,973
Speaker 2: could exchange some money into Canadian dollars and exchange some

1960
01:39:39,013 --> 01:39:42,333
Speaker 2: money into the the golon is which are used here

1961
01:39:42,333 --> 01:39:44,893
Speaker 2: in Costa Rica, and then also have some US dollars

1962
01:39:44,893 --> 01:39:46,853
Speaker 2: on there as well, so you can have multiple currencies.

1963
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Speaker 2: So yes, why is the name of that which is

1964
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Speaker 2: my foundation? Very good? All right, thank you so much

1965
01:39:52,133 --> 01:39:53,853
Speaker 2: for that, really appreciate it. We're going to make sure

1966
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Speaker 2: that Mike's top apps for heading out in your next

1967
01:39:57,573 --> 01:40:00,053
Speaker 2: adventure are up on the news Talks he'd be website,

1968
01:40:00,093 --> 01:40:02,813
Speaker 2: so you can make sure they are downloaded before you depart.

1969
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Speaker 2: It's just after eleven thirty, Yeah, with Jactaime.

1970
01:40:05,253 --> 01:40:10,973
Speaker 3: On Newstook, getting your weekends started.

1971
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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on news TALKSB I got.

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Speaker 18: That's names good, that's night, good night.

1973
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Speaker 15: That's a days.

1974
01:40:30,973 --> 01:40:33,853
Speaker 2: The producer Libby who chose this, so don't put the

1975
01:40:34,413 --> 01:40:38,013
Speaker 2: commentator's curse on me. That being said, I do feel

1976
01:40:38,053 --> 01:40:41,933
Speaker 2: cautiously optimistic about the All Blacks first test of twenty

1977
01:40:41,973 --> 01:40:46,733
Speaker 2: twenty five. We are what seven hours and thirty minutes

1978
01:40:46,893 --> 01:40:50,013
Speaker 2: from kickoff, and this afternoon on weekend Sport, Jason Pine

1979
01:40:50,133 --> 01:40:53,373
Speaker 2: is going to be broadcasting live from Emerson's Brewery as

1980
01:40:53,373 --> 01:40:54,533
Speaker 2: he counts down to kick off.

1981
01:40:54,533 --> 01:40:57,253
Speaker 14: Get a poney, what a terrible job this is, I

1982
01:40:57,333 --> 01:40:59,333
Speaker 14: have to say, Jack, when you get the chance to

1983
01:40:59,373 --> 01:41:01,733
Speaker 14: not only come to the city where the first test

1984
01:41:01,733 --> 01:41:03,373
Speaker 14: of the year is taking place in seven and a

1985
01:41:03,413 --> 01:41:05,893
Speaker 14: half hours, as you say, but to broadcast from the

1986
01:41:06,133 --> 01:41:09,253
Speaker 14: icon like Emerson's Brewery and the lead up to it,

1987
01:41:09,333 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 14: I don't think it gets much better than this, mate.

1988
01:41:11,653 --> 01:41:15,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought, you know, when the boss was

1989
01:41:15,213 --> 01:41:17,773
Speaker 2: looking at the travel itinery and was sending it through,

1990
01:41:17,813 --> 01:41:20,093
Speaker 2: they probably weren't going to be happening to promise double

1991
01:41:20,173 --> 01:41:23,493
Speaker 2: per diems or anything like that. Nothing like that, nothing

1992
01:41:23,613 --> 01:41:26,933
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, So it's I mean that being said,

1993
01:41:27,013 --> 01:41:30,973
Speaker 2: it is a funny old game, right, Eight debutants in

1994
01:41:31,013 --> 01:41:36,133
Speaker 2: the France team for today, which you know, given you

1995
01:41:36,133 --> 01:41:37,933
Speaker 2: know they've got a whole stack of stars who've been

1996
01:41:38,013 --> 01:41:41,133
Speaker 2: left at home after the domestic final, is a bit

1997
01:41:41,173 --> 01:41:42,653
Speaker 2: of a shame. But then you have twop of a

1998
01:41:42,813 --> 01:41:45,133
Speaker 2: starting at six for the all backs, which is a

1999
01:41:45,173 --> 01:41:47,773
Speaker 2: curious thing as well. Still debate around that ten position.

2000
01:41:47,853 --> 01:41:49,773
Speaker 2: But how are you feeling about it tonight? Yeah, I'm

2001
01:41:49,773 --> 01:41:51,493
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I think first test of the year.

2002
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Speaker 14: You know, the All Blacks aren't going to be perfect

2003
01:41:53,293 --> 01:41:55,053
Speaker 14: in the first test of the year, but there's always

2004
01:41:55,093 --> 01:41:57,453
Speaker 14: high excitement around you know some of the things. And

2005
01:41:57,493 --> 01:41:59,333
Speaker 14: I think you know, Razors helped us out with a

2006
01:41:59,333 --> 01:42:02,333
Speaker 14: few selections in terms of talking points, as you say,

2007
01:42:02,373 --> 01:42:05,213
Speaker 14: took Paul Vatti on the blindside flank. I don't think

2008
01:42:05,293 --> 01:42:07,933
Speaker 14: anybody picked that. Riko Yoani shifting out to the wing.

2009
01:42:08,213 --> 01:42:10,453
Speaker 14: I think a lot of people wanted to see that

2010
01:42:10,853 --> 01:42:13,093
Speaker 14: but weren't sure whether he would do it. Billy procked

2011
01:42:13,133 --> 01:42:13,893
Speaker 14: her into the centers.

2012
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Speaker 2: I love that.

2013
01:42:14,493 --> 01:42:17,573
Speaker 14: And the debutantes, I mean, Fabian Holland, what a story.

2014
01:42:17,613 --> 01:42:19,573
Speaker 14: This is the you know, the young kid from the

2015
01:42:19,613 --> 01:42:22,773
Speaker 14: Netherlands who who looked towards New Zealand as the rugby

2016
01:42:22,813 --> 01:42:24,413
Speaker 14: capital of the world and thought, well, I want to

2017
01:42:24,453 --> 01:42:26,853
Speaker 14: chase my dream. That's where I need to go. And

2018
01:42:26,933 --> 01:42:29,373
Speaker 14: here he is, you know, interned and where he made

2019
01:42:29,413 --> 01:42:32,853
Speaker 14: his provincial and super rugby debut and will tonight make

2020
01:42:32,893 --> 01:42:37,093
Speaker 14: his test stapoo. What a story for Fabian Holland Christian

2021
01:42:37,173 --> 01:42:41,013
Speaker 14: Leo Willie will debut to see Karifi Oli Norris as well. Look,

2022
01:42:41,933 --> 01:42:44,373
Speaker 14: I think it'd be drawing along bow jack to suggest

2023
01:42:44,413 --> 01:42:47,213
Speaker 14: that France would be able to push the All Blacks

2024
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Speaker 14: in one or any of these three tests. But it's

2025
01:42:50,653 --> 01:42:52,653
Speaker 14: a test one of the year, so there's always a

2026
01:42:52,693 --> 01:42:55,813
Speaker 14: bit of extra excitement about what might play out tonight.

2027
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you never know where the French

2028
01:42:59,773 --> 01:43:01,973
Speaker 2: team as well, Right, don't go on about this, but

2029
01:43:02,053 --> 01:43:03,773
Speaker 2: I mean like, if there was ever you know, if

2030
01:43:03,773 --> 01:43:05,973
Speaker 2: there was ever a team that was going to upset things,

2031
01:43:06,013 --> 01:43:07,973
Speaker 2: even we thought the All Backs were looking a little

2032
01:43:07,973 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 2: more settled than they were in the first season under Raiser,

2033
01:43:10,373 --> 01:43:13,173
Speaker 2: then you know, a team with eight divitons would be

2034
01:43:13,213 --> 01:43:15,093
Speaker 2: the team. Yeah, will surely be the team to do it.

2035
01:43:15,493 --> 01:43:18,133
Speaker 2: What do you make of this remarkable under nineteen men's

2036
01:43:18,173 --> 01:43:21,013
Speaker 2: basketball results? So the three of the semi finals of

2037
01:43:21,053 --> 01:43:24,613
Speaker 2: the World Cup after defeating the hosts Switzerland in the

2038
01:43:24,613 --> 01:43:26,533
Speaker 2: early hours of this morning. Now they're going to face

2039
01:43:26,533 --> 01:43:28,573
Speaker 2: the US and the semifinals, so that is a pretty

2040
01:43:28,573 --> 01:43:30,933
Speaker 2: tough ask, but what an incredible achievement.

2041
01:43:31,173 --> 01:43:33,253
Speaker 14: Absolutely love this. Got up this morning to watch this

2042
01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:35,533
Speaker 14: game and they were behind by ten, just heading towards

2043
01:43:35,573 --> 01:43:38,013
Speaker 14: half time, thought or maybe it comes to an end here,

2044
01:43:38,053 --> 01:43:39,773
Speaker 14: as you say, against the host nation. But man, this

2045
01:43:39,853 --> 01:43:43,013
Speaker 14: is a generational team. Five of this squad were also

2046
01:43:43,093 --> 01:43:45,653
Speaker 14: in the under seventeen team that last year made the

2047
01:43:45,693 --> 01:43:48,893
Speaker 14: semi finals of their World Cup. So to emulate that

2048
01:43:48,973 --> 01:43:51,333
Speaker 14: with you know, a bunch of new faces. Look, I

2049
01:43:51,373 --> 01:43:54,893
Speaker 14: think what's happened with basketball now, Jack, is that these

2050
01:43:54,933 --> 01:43:56,773
Speaker 14: players and it's a bit like football. You and I've

2051
01:43:56,813 --> 01:43:58,733
Speaker 14: talked about this. They go to these tournaments now not

2052
01:43:58,813 --> 01:44:01,613
Speaker 14: just happy to be there, not just happy to participate.

2053
01:44:01,813 --> 01:44:03,773
Speaker 14: They go into these tournaments to win games and to

2054
01:44:03,813 --> 01:44:05,613
Speaker 14: go deep. And look, I think it would be it

2055
01:44:05,613 --> 01:44:07,853
Speaker 14: would be a pretty old domestic New Zealand basketball fan

2056
01:44:07,933 --> 01:44:10,533
Speaker 14: to suggest that they could beat the United States tomorrow.

2057
01:44:10,613 --> 01:44:13,253
Speaker 14: But what an opportunity for these guys, many of who

2058
01:44:13,653 --> 01:44:16,733
Speaker 14: are either in college in the United States or shortly

2059
01:44:16,773 --> 01:44:18,453
Speaker 14: heading over there, so they're going to be playing these

2060
01:44:18,453 --> 01:44:22,053
Speaker 14: guys anyway. I think this is a is a absolute

2061
01:44:22,293 --> 01:44:25,253
Speaker 14: you know, this is a chance for another golden generation.

2062
01:44:25,373 --> 01:44:26,893
Speaker 14: We remember the team that made it all the way

2063
01:44:26,933 --> 01:44:29,333
Speaker 14: to the semi finals of the World Cup in the

2064
01:44:29,373 --> 01:44:32,853
Speaker 14: early two thousands, you know Pero Cameron, Phil Jones, Mark Ticle,

2065
01:44:33,573 --> 01:44:37,853
Speaker 14: Sean Marks and others. Well, Phil Jones' son, Hayden Jones,

2066
01:44:38,213 --> 01:44:39,693
Speaker 14: is one of the stars of this team. And I'll

2067
01:44:39,693 --> 01:44:41,093
Speaker 14: tell you what, he could be just as good of

2068
01:44:41,173 --> 01:44:43,373
Speaker 14: not better than his old man from what I can see,

2069
01:44:43,413 --> 01:44:46,533
Speaker 14: so exciting times. Matt Lacy's their coach, got him on

2070
01:44:46,533 --> 01:44:49,093
Speaker 14: the show this afternoon, so we'll unpack that as well.

2071
01:44:49,693 --> 01:44:51,653
Speaker 2: That'd be great, Yeah, looking forward to it. He enjoy

2072
01:44:51,733 --> 01:44:55,133
Speaker 2: this afternoon, enjoy the game tonight. We really appreciate your time, finey,

2073
01:44:55,173 --> 01:44:57,453
Speaker 2: and we'll catch again very soon. Jason come man. Jack

2074
01:44:57,493 --> 01:45:00,613
Speaker 2: Backs with Weekend Sport live from Emerson's Brewery in Dunedin

2075
01:45:00,653 --> 01:45:02,933
Speaker 2: as they count down to the All Blacks France kickoff

2076
01:45:02,973 --> 01:45:05,373
Speaker 2: just after seven o'clock this evening. Don't forget, of course,

2077
01:45:05,373 --> 01:45:08,533
Speaker 2: we're going to have live commentary of the All Backs

2078
01:45:08,573 --> 01:45:12,133
Speaker 2: first Test for twenty twenty five. Coverage and the countdown

2079
01:45:12,173 --> 01:45:14,453
Speaker 2: starts from six pm on News Talk this evening, and

2080
01:45:14,493 --> 01:45:16,853
Speaker 2: of course we'll have the game call live just after

2081
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:22,053
Speaker 2: seven o'clock. Thank you for your feedback, Jack, regarding taking

2082
01:45:22,053 --> 01:45:24,173
Speaker 2: your toddle for a swim, You're an absolute clown. Don't

2083
01:45:24,173 --> 01:45:26,333
Speaker 2: turn you back to the sea. I totally agree. I

2084
01:45:26,373 --> 01:45:28,413
Speaker 2: take that on the chin wasn't very smart. I was

2085
01:45:28,453 --> 01:45:30,933
Speaker 2: in the shallows. I should not have had my back

2086
01:45:30,973 --> 01:45:32,933
Speaker 2: to the sea. Fortunately there were Like the double wave

2087
01:45:32,933 --> 01:45:35,373
Speaker 2: that hit us wasn't like a massive one. It wasn't

2088
01:45:35,373 --> 01:45:37,493
Speaker 2: a waist high or anything like that. It just splashed

2089
01:45:37,493 --> 01:45:38,893
Speaker 2: the little one on the face. So he was a

2090
01:45:38,893 --> 01:45:42,093
Speaker 2: little bit surprised. Jack. You're broadcasting from Costantica this morning.

2091
01:45:42,093 --> 01:45:44,173
Speaker 2: Do you have a special setup? Is it as simple

2092
01:45:44,213 --> 01:45:46,453
Speaker 2: as using your work laptop with some headphones and a

2093
01:45:46,453 --> 01:45:48,373
Speaker 2: good mic or anything like that. Well, the thing is

2094
01:45:48,373 --> 01:45:51,653
Speaker 2: that the technology in this department does tend to improve

2095
01:45:51,773 --> 01:45:56,213
Speaker 2: over the years. So in the past, like I remember broadcasting,

2096
01:45:56,253 --> 01:45:58,933
Speaker 2: we did a show once from Alaska of all places,

2097
01:45:58,973 --> 01:46:01,413
Speaker 2: and it was very complicated. We needed all sorts of

2098
01:46:01,453 --> 01:46:04,213
Speaker 2: special equipment and a special broadcast unit called a brick.

2099
01:46:04,653 --> 01:46:08,453
Speaker 2: These days, with the likes of all the streaming action

2100
01:46:08,533 --> 01:46:11,613
Speaker 2: of things like Zoom and those things have made the

2101
01:46:12,173 --> 01:46:18,413
Speaker 2: end to end communicative Internet enabled systems so much better

2102
01:46:18,413 --> 01:46:19,933
Speaker 2: than they used to be. But of course we have

2103
01:46:20,013 --> 01:46:22,893
Speaker 2: you know, professional microphones and that kind of thing. But yeah,

2104
01:46:23,013 --> 01:46:25,053
Speaker 2: you basically anywhere with good Internet. You can do a

2105
01:46:25,093 --> 01:46:28,173
Speaker 2: good broadcast these days, well hopefully you can that. The

2106
01:46:28,173 --> 01:46:30,253
Speaker 2: real question is what happens when the internet drops out,

2107
01:46:30,453 --> 01:46:31,933
Speaker 2: you know. But anyway, thank you for that. I'll get

2108
01:46:31,973 --> 01:46:34,013
Speaker 2: to worrow your feedback before before the end of the

2109
01:46:34,013 --> 01:46:35,493
Speaker 2: show this morning, We're going to make sure we save

2110
01:46:35,573 --> 01:46:38,653
Speaker 2: some time for some new music from Kesher. Next up,

2111
01:46:38,693 --> 01:46:40,773
Speaker 2: though your book picks for this weekend. It's twenty to

2112
01:46:40,813 --> 01:46:41,933
Speaker 2: twelve on News Talks EDB.

2113
01:46:42,693 --> 01:46:46,933
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2114
01:46:47,213 --> 01:46:48,453
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks EDB.

2115
01:46:49,213 --> 01:46:52,213
Speaker 2: Seventeen to twelve on Newstalks EDB, Katherine Rains has her

2116
01:46:52,293 --> 01:46:58,213
Speaker 2: to read recommendations for us this weekend. Kilder Catherine Morning, Jack, Okay,

2117
01:46:58,293 --> 01:47:01,533
Speaker 2: two box to talk through. Let's begin with The White Crow,

2118
01:47:01,693 --> 01:47:05,013
Speaker 2: which is by Michael Robotham, the second in his Filamina

2119
01:47:05,093 --> 01:47:06,053
Speaker 2: McCarthy series.

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01:47:07,133 --> 01:47:11,093
Speaker 7: So, Philamina is the daughter of a notorious gangster who's

2121
01:47:11,093 --> 01:47:14,373
Speaker 7: the leader of a local crime family. And she had

2122
01:47:14,653 --> 01:47:16,813
Speaker 7: severed ties with her family when she became a police

2123
01:47:16,813 --> 01:47:19,493
Speaker 7: constable in London, and I've had a bit of a

2124
01:47:19,573 --> 01:47:22,413
Speaker 7: reconciliation or a bit of a truce when she married Henry,

2125
01:47:22,453 --> 01:47:25,213
Speaker 7: who happens to be a fireman, but now it passes

2126
01:47:25,253 --> 01:47:27,973
Speaker 7: about to collide and she's on patrol in the middle

2127
01:47:28,013 --> 01:47:30,493
Speaker 7: of the night AND's on a three am food run

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Speaker 7: for her colleagues at the Kentish Town Police station and

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Speaker 7: she spots this child in pajamas wandering the street and

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Speaker 7: it turns out it's five year old Daisy kemp Low

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Speaker 7: and she says that she can't wake her mum, and

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Speaker 7: Filhmina goes to learn why, and then across town her

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Speaker 7: colleagues are called to the jewelry store Robbie robbery, which

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Speaker 7: happens to net the thieves about four million pounds and

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Speaker 7: the owner's been tied to a chair with a bomb

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Speaker 7: stretcher's chest and there's a lot to suggest that Philamina's

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Speaker 7: family may be involved, and so before all the matters

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Speaker 7: are resolved, they're more deaths and extortion and black man

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01:48:03,773 --> 01:48:07,613
Speaker 7: in abduction and along with this great cast characters, and

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Speaker 7: there's lots of twists and turns and miss direction misdirection,

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01:48:11,293 --> 01:48:15,173
Speaker 7: and it's a really good, brilliantly written crime fiction. And

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Speaker 7: Michael Robotam does this very well.

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Speaker 2: Nice okay, cool, Yeah, he's yeah, like the first Philamy

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Speaker 2: and McCarthy. The story, I know, had a lot of praise,

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01:48:26,253 --> 01:48:28,133
Speaker 2: A lot of people absolutely love that so great that

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Speaker 2: he's followed it up so quickly. So that's The White

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Speaker 2: Crow by Michael Rowbotham. Next up, This Is Not a

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Speaker 2: Game a Novel by Kellie Mullen.

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Speaker 7: So ADDIE's video game developer and she's having lots of

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Speaker 7: business and relationship conflicts and she gets this call from

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Speaker 7: her grandmother, Mimi, asking her to attend a party on

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Speaker 7: Mechanic Island in Michigan. And her grandmother has been invited

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Speaker 7: to this charity auction party by a neighbor, a woman

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01:48:54,693 --> 01:48:57,973
Speaker 7: called Jane Ireland, and she hates her, and there's a

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01:48:57,973 --> 01:49:02,093
Speaker 7: black mail demand that's come along with this party invitation,

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01:49:02,653 --> 01:49:04,813
Speaker 7: and so she wants Addie to come along with her

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01:49:04,813 --> 01:49:08,853
Speaker 7: for moral support. And so they attend and then their hostess, Jane,

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01:49:08,893 --> 01:49:11,453
Speaker 7: turns up dead and there's a snowstorm that traps them

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01:49:11,453 --> 01:49:14,813
Speaker 7: in the house, and Addie and her grandmother are trying

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Speaker 7: to team up to solve the murder themselves, and it's

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Speaker 7: one of those coziest locked in room mysteries, and the

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01:49:21,173 --> 01:49:24,813
Speaker 7: house and guest party goes a really unique blend of

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01:49:24,853 --> 01:49:28,533
Speaker 7: people that are weird. They're suspicious, sometimes delightful and other

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01:49:28,573 --> 01:49:32,573
Speaker 7: times completely vile, and every character, of course, raises suspicion.

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Speaker 7: And the house is huge, and it has its own

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Speaker 7: secrets and secret passageways, and it's one of those perfect

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01:49:38,453 --> 01:49:41,293
Speaker 7: who Done It books. And the book itself is kind

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Speaker 7: of atmospheric, and it's fast paced and gripping, and there's

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Speaker 7: plenty of humor in it, and it pulls inspiration from

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Speaker 7: the likes of those Golden age locked room murder mysteries

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01:49:50,333 --> 01:49:53,053
Speaker 7: like Agatha Christie. And it's perfect for curling up on

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01:49:53,093 --> 01:49:55,733
Speaker 7: a Sunday afternoon and not doing too much, to be honest,

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01:49:56,173 --> 01:49:56,613
Speaker 7: a bit.

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Speaker 2: Of escapism of a weekend. We love it. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. This is not a game. A novel by

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01:50:02,133 --> 01:50:05,253
Speaker 2: Kelly Mullen. Catherine's first recommendation for us the White Crow

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Speaker 2: by Michael Robotam, and both of those will be up

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01:50:07,693 --> 01:50:09,533
Speaker 2: on the news Talk Said b website. A couple of

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Speaker 2: people on the text just asking about the bird app

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01:50:13,093 --> 01:50:16,493
Speaker 2: that Mike Yardly recommended this morning in our travel segment.

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01:50:16,493 --> 01:50:20,413
Speaker 2: It's called Merlin Bird. Merlin like the Wizard Merlin Bird.

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01:50:20,413 --> 01:50:22,733
Speaker 2: But you can find all of Mike's app recommendations on

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01:50:22,773 --> 01:50:25,573
Speaker 2: the website as well. Thirteen to twelve new music for

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Speaker 2: you from Kesher next.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All You Need to

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Speaker 1: Us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot Nz for high quality supplements.

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Speaker 3: US Talk said, be.

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01:50:58,253 --> 01:51:02,653
Speaker 2: That is Kesher. The song is delusional. She just released

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Speaker 2: a brand new album to coincide with the fourth of

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01:51:05,733 --> 01:51:09,093
Speaker 2: July in the US. The album is called Period, and

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Speaker 2: it is the first album she's released as an independent artist.

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Speaker 2: The Stale Clifford music reviewer is with us this morning.

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Speaker 21: Stell Yeah, yolder period as in full stop like ed Shearon,

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Speaker 21: you know he's doing like plus minus all that kind

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Speaker 21: of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to work this out. Is it period

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Speaker 2: end of full stop? Is that the name of the album.

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's just a period, like yeah, because

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Speaker 2: Americans say period, right, that's the end of that period.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: And it's a great place, isn't it? Market in the set, No,

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01:51:38,773 --> 01:51:41,493
Speaker 21: we're clear our market in the sund She's gone like

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Speaker 21: nearly decades with of drama with Doctor Luke and she's

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Speaker 21: finally out of her contract. She had to wait about

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Speaker 21: six months until she was allowed to make and release

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01:51:49,813 --> 01:51:52,813
Speaker 21: music again. So this is an album she's released under

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Speaker 21: her own record label, and she says that her goal

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Speaker 21: for it was to create a safe space for people

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Speaker 21: to feel fully embodied and liberated, unfiltered and fearless. Now

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Speaker 21: it's not just unfiltered at times, it's actually a bit unhinged.

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Speaker 21: So if you think of the hot mess of kit

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01:52:08,933 --> 01:52:12,253
Speaker 21: show in like twenty ten when she was brushing her

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01:52:12,253 --> 01:52:15,453
Speaker 21: teeth with a bottle jack, we are kind of right

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01:52:15,493 --> 01:52:18,653
Speaker 21: back into that. Like that is her, that's her pop?

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Speaker 2: Was that song twenty ten?

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Speaker 21: Yes, don't count the years. It's okay, it's all right,

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01:52:26,613 --> 01:52:27,253
Speaker 21: but how cool you?

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Speaker 2: I listened to her this morning. Sorry, I'll come vict her.

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01:52:30,293 --> 01:52:31,933
Speaker 2: I listened to it this morning, and because I love

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01:52:31,973 --> 01:52:34,853
Speaker 2: that song. You see, TikTok is the song that Estella's

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01:52:34,893 --> 01:52:36,973
Speaker 2: referencing here. I love it song. It's such an ear

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01:52:37,013 --> 01:52:38,453
Speaker 2: wom And I was like, oh, yeah, it's been you know.

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01:52:38,653 --> 01:52:41,133
Speaker 2: I do love that song. And I mentioned it to

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Speaker 2: Libya producer, and Libby said, yeah, that was the best

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01:52:43,573 --> 01:52:47,053
Speaker 2: song at my year eight disco bad For God's sake.

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Speaker 21: We've bonded over music different eras, but we've bonded over music.

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Speaker 8: Where we heard it, I.

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Speaker 2: Would have seen it was about three years old. If

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01:52:56,693 --> 01:52:58,093
Speaker 2: you'd asked me, I would have seen the years. She

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01:52:58,173 --> 01:53:00,053
Speaker 2: really said about twenty twenty two, you know.

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Speaker 21: Apparently the time. I think the great thing is she's

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Speaker 21: gone back to that. But we really loved her and

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01:53:05,973 --> 01:53:10,093
Speaker 21: she was really fully embodying that. Just power like and

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Speaker 21: just say it how she means it. I mean, she's

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Speaker 21: full of swears on this album, so it's quite explicit.

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Speaker 21: But I think that she comes from, you know, fully

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01:53:18,333 --> 01:53:20,973
Speaker 21: tongue in chic with her lyrics in where she's going.

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Speaker 21: Sometimes it's a persona.

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Speaker 8: I don't think she's.

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01:53:24,253 --> 01:53:28,653
Speaker 21: Tongue in chic in her belief now in her self praise,

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01:53:28,773 --> 01:53:31,973
Speaker 21: in her recognition of surviving some pretty icky stuff so

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01:53:32,093 --> 01:53:34,293
Speaker 21: her career, and it really puts some brakes on it.

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01:53:34,493 --> 01:53:36,253
Speaker 21: So this is her being like, well, I'm back just

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01:53:36,253 --> 01:53:39,133
Speaker 21: doing what it is I like to do. And yeah,

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01:53:39,173 --> 01:53:43,253
Speaker 21: like I say, unhinged electro pop. At times, she's doing

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01:53:43,253 --> 01:53:47,493
Speaker 21: that thing that everyone's trying where you throwing some pop country.

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01:53:47,853 --> 01:53:51,373
Speaker 21: There's a song called Yippie Kaye doesn't follow through with

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Speaker 21: a full die Hard quote. Yeah, yeah, but it's very

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Speaker 21: You know, if she was doing it with Shaboozie, you

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01:53:57,853 --> 01:54:00,173
Speaker 21: wouldn't be surprised because it's kind of where everyone's at

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01:54:00,213 --> 01:54:05,093
Speaker 21: with that country pop crossover, some big catchy riffs, choruses.

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01:54:06,013 --> 01:54:09,933
Speaker 21: Delude there has got that kind of sentimental powerbillity thing

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Speaker 21: that kind of surprises you a little bit, like it's

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Speaker 21: not all. I've sort of summarized this album as being

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Speaker 21: a bit fluty and dirty because I feel like.

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01:54:17,933 --> 01:54:21,533
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that, Yeah, fluty and dirty. That's kind

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01:54:21,533 --> 01:54:22,293
Speaker 2: of where she's at.

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Speaker 21: And she's sort of back doing there, and I wonder like,

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01:54:25,453 --> 01:54:27,933
Speaker 21: is everyone ready or okay to go back to where

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01:54:27,933 --> 01:54:29,613
Speaker 21: we were in twenty twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 2: And I think we are?

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01:54:32,733 --> 01:54:35,253
Speaker 21: Yeah, Yeah, Like I just I think that's what she

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01:54:35,333 --> 01:54:38,373
Speaker 21: does really well. I don't know that she's pushing boundaries

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01:54:38,453 --> 01:54:44,573
Speaker 21: sonically and pop music. She's definitely pushing buttons, yeah, And

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01:54:44,933 --> 01:54:47,173
Speaker 21: I kind of love her for there's some this. It

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01:54:47,253 --> 01:54:49,733
Speaker 21: opens with a song called Freedom, and I think Lovey's

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01:54:49,733 --> 01:54:51,333
Speaker 21: got a little bit of it actually here It's got

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01:54:51,333 --> 01:54:55,733
Speaker 21: this piano surge and very hypnot at whales and then

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01:54:55,733 --> 01:55:05,973
Speaker 21: her big voice that comes to hello listen like it

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01:55:06,053 --> 01:55:09,653
Speaker 21: kind of almost don't expect this like jelicky, kind of

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01:55:09,653 --> 01:55:12,333
Speaker 21: big vocal, and then it turned into like Acquire sing

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01:55:12,373 --> 01:55:14,373
Speaker 21: along featuring a sex shop on some swears.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, you know what I mean? Likesh know, blirty

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01:55:18,173 --> 01:55:21,373
Speaker 2: and dirty. Yeah, it's hazy. Okay, So why did you

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01:55:21,413 --> 01:55:21,773
Speaker 2: give it?

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01:55:22,253 --> 01:55:22,453
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:55:22,893 --> 01:55:25,013
Speaker 21: Me, Look, I think it's I think it's good. I

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01:55:25,013 --> 01:55:26,613
Speaker 21: think she can push more. I'm going to give it

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01:55:26,653 --> 01:55:27,493
Speaker 21: a seven out of ten.

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01:55:28,213 --> 01:55:30,133
Speaker 2: All right, I'm looking forward to listening to it because

2283
01:55:30,133 --> 01:55:31,973
Speaker 2: obviously I'm a bit of a Kesha fan from way back.

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01:55:32,053 --> 01:55:34,693
Speaker 2: So seven out of ten for period. But Kesha is free.

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01:55:34,733 --> 01:55:38,293
Speaker 2: She's recording music under her own independent label, which I'm

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01:55:38,293 --> 01:55:40,293
Speaker 2: sure she's delighted about. Thank you so much, as seal.

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01:55:40,373 --> 01:55:42,373
Speaker 2: We'll listen to a bit more in a couple of minutes.

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01:55:42,653 --> 01:55:44,333
Speaker 2: Six to twelve on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and the fewer dot Co dot ins head

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Speaker 1: for high Quality Supplements News Talks EDB.

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01:55:54,573 --> 01:55:58,813
Speaker 2: Well, Jason Pine is live standing by at Emerson's Brewery

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01:55:58,853 --> 01:56:01,173
Speaker 2: and Dunedan counting down to the All Blacks, France and

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01:56:01,213 --> 01:56:04,733
Speaker 2: the All Backs first Test of twenty twenty five seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: This evening, of course, news Talks dB will have live commentary.

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01:56:07,973 --> 01:56:10,853
Speaker 2: The voice of Rugby Elliot Smith is there counting down

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Speaker 2: the hours. That's us though, for another Saturday Morning together.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all your text and emails throughout the morning,

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Speaker 2: and to my wonderful producer Libby for doing all the

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Speaker 2: tough stuff. We are back next Saturday morning from nine o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Until then, all of the stuff from our show this

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Speaker 2: morning will be on the News Talks EDB website. Right

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Speaker 2: now though it has just come up to twelve o'clock,

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Speaker 2: which means the news is next. Have a great week.

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Speaker 2: You'll see you next Saturday.

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