WEBVTT - Jason Ryan: All Blacks assistant coach on the team beating the Springboks at Ellis Park

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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<v Speaker 1>from News Talks b South.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes it off the back Ardie Satha pops it.

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<v Speaker 3>Up on the right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Jordan rightly quorder it's another for will and that

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<v Speaker 4>might be enough. It might be enough for the All

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<v Speaker 4>Blacks to win at Allie Park. Yes, certainly was All

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<v Speaker 4>Blacks thirty three South Africa sixteen or Black's assistant coach

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<v Speaker 4>Jason Ryan is with us on Weekend Sport. Jace, where

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<v Speaker 4>does that sit among your most satisfying days with the

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<v Speaker 4>All Blacks?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, that's up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, any any one you love it, but any test

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<v Speaker 2>one in South Africa, especially Alista Park you love it

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<v Speaker 2>even more. And we were under a massive amount of

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<v Speaker 2>pressure at set piece and how we made the adjustments

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<v Speaker 2>we needed to and came back with a ship on

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<v Speaker 2>a qre and a whole lot of effort and belief

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<v Speaker 2>in our game I think was pretty special.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you give us an insight into the adjustments that

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<v Speaker 4>you made that made the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think at scrum time, you know there was

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<v Speaker 2>one there that we missed a hit a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting the hit on us and potentially went a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit early on us. We also, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>got rewarded just after halftime for them stepping left. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing around world rugby is you got a

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<v Speaker 2>scrum square. So we got one there that we probably deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>And probably in hindsight, Ethan grew hurt his neck, the

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<v Speaker 2>group hurt his knee pretty bad early on in the

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<v Speaker 2>start of the Test match, and we probably should have

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<v Speaker 2>looked to hook him a little bit earlier because that

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<v Speaker 2>he was sort of firing on one leg. So you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of put those couple of things together, probably as

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<v Speaker 2>the reflection of the justice we made and what we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about at halftime around showing really good pictures.

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<v Speaker 4>And then in the second half early South Africa still

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<v Speaker 4>putting you under huge pressure, you hold your hold and

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<v Speaker 4>then you get a scrum penalty of your own under

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<v Speaker 4>your own horns. How big a moment was that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it was a big moment, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>reward to the adjustments we made. And as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>it was for them stepping left, which is you know

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<v Speaker 2>that that that did swing the momentum. And then then

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<v Speaker 2>we got into a mall and we got a more penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it was like, okay, we've got to put

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<v Speaker 2>a momentum here, and and we we sort of kept

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<v Speaker 2>the we keep the pressure on them a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, got some reward for it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, a lot, massive, massive if from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Boys coming on and uh and and I think we

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<v Speaker 2>were showed that we're pretty flat at the moment too,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's pretty positive.

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<v Speaker 4>Is effective scrummaging more about technique or physical strength?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a great question. Look what the spring Boks like.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a brick pack, and we may get it right.

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<v Speaker 3>They are very very.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to stop with their mass and how big they are. Right, technically,

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<v Speaker 2>we could have been a little bit better tonight, But

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, I'm proud that the boys made the adjustments.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrums and a test match as similar to twelve rounds

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<v Speaker 2>of boxing. We're not gonna win every round, and tonight

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't win every round, but we probably won a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of rounds that that mattered, I guess, and we

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<v Speaker 2>got rewarded for it. And say, the adjustice we made

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<v Speaker 2>it our time, So I'm pretty proud of the boys there.

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<v Speaker 3>We've still got work to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I guess to use a boxing analogy. You

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<v Speaker 4>got the points victory well and truly, Jase, how much

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<v Speaker 4>of a tactic is inducing fatigue in your opposition?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you hold the ball and balld phases, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you and we trust our skill set, like we

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<v Speaker 2>threw a whole lot of offloads that probably weren't even

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<v Speaker 2>on that did stick because the boys have been optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>about how they want play, which is what rends us

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<v Speaker 2>driven right from the start. And when you do that,

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<v Speaker 2>the fatigue does kicking. And we I believe we found

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<v Speaker 2>another couple of years in that last twenty, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and put the pressure on them, and we should be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty satisfied with that part of the game, and how

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<v Speaker 2>the leaders have been doing a lot of good work

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<v Speaker 2>with Gilbert and Ochre and just adapting to the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>and just enjoying that and understanding that it's so tough

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<v Speaker 2>over here, you know, one v two in the world

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<v Speaker 2>and at Alice Park, like you just got to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>this and we will.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's work to do tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Fabian Holland hercule in eighty minutes charge down Try. I

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<v Speaker 4>had to stay on because of course, Josh Lord departed

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<v Speaker 4>earlier than you would have hoped. Not bad for a

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<v Speaker 4>bloke who hasn't played much rugby recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Fabian Holland, Yeah, he's done a lot of work and

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<v Speaker 2>conditioning and you know it was a big arm. He

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<v Speaker 2>went to the world tonight. He had to dig a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big hole and keep digging it. So pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied Harry got through his work.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll have to look.

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<v Speaker 2>After him this week. I mean, we're not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to get any futterer or stronger on

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<v Speaker 2>this till We've got to keep the boys fresh now

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that'll be a big part of the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>The last time you played South Africa, Jace, you joined

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<v Speaker 4>me the day after you took my call. You answered

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<v Speaker 4>some pretty tough questions. Thirteen of the twenty three who

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<v Speaker 4>played that night played again today. Was that forty three

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<v Speaker 4>ten talked about at all or do you think it

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<v Speaker 4>privately drove any individuals?

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely wasn't talked about, but I guess you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of those things are always in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's a couple of set piece moments and

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<v Speaker 3>we sit on.

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<v Speaker 2>The start of this call, Jay Slide, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, here we go again type thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But we, as I said, we made the adjustments.

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<v Speaker 2>We started a little bit more resilience under pressure, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more composed and already made some really good

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<v Speaker 2>decisions at key times.

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<v Speaker 4>Does that end of the game, Yeah, does Alice Park

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<v Speaker 4>ever get old? Looks amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh she's standing out here in the middle now and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you've just got to enjoy and I'm going to so

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<v Speaker 5>but we're got work to do with by no means satisfied,

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<v Speaker 5>and but we will enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 4>We just well, you deserve to a lot of very

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<v Speaker 4>happy key weis early this morning watching that Jas, Thanks

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<v Speaker 4>for taking the call, mate, all the best as you

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<v Speaker 4>move forward, no worries.

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<v Speaker 2>Let just say I really appreciate the support that we've

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<v Speaker 2>had from home this week as this test match is built,

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<v Speaker 2>and the support that we've had with the All Black

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<v Speaker 2>supporters and the Zemers that are in the crowd today.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not often you hear them that the all Black

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<v Speaker 3>chant and his Yon chant in Ellis Park so pretty special.

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<v Speaker 4>So thanks good man, good man, Jase, enjoy your evening.

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<v Speaker 4>Jason Ryan there out of Johannesburg with the All Blacks

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<v Speaker 4>have beaten South Africa thirty three points to sixteen.

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