1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Loss industry is on track to become one hundred and 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: fifty billion dollar industry just in the next six years 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: or so. And a kiwweight loss company is riding on 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: the coattails of the Azemba craze with a huge increase 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: in sales in the US. It's Callo Curb. Callo Cub 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: was developed with the help of plant and food. It's 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: a pill that reduces hunger and cravings in women particularly. 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Sarah Kennedy is the founder and the chief executive of 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: Callow Kurban with us. Now, Hey, Sarah, hi, he hi. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm well thinking about you guys pre date ozempic how 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: much so you will you will be able to look 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: at the effect that Ozempic's had on your business. How 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: massive has it been? 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it's been extraordinary. And I'll tell you why ozempic is. 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Let's be a little Can I be science geeky for 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: a minute. 17 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: I'll go for it. 18 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Ozembic is actually a Ozemplic is actually a brand name 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: for synthetic hormone GLP, one that you inject in yourself 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: which tells the brain you're full. It just mimics a 21 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: hormone that we have. So that's a brand name. In 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Nova Noorders had their drug with GOV, 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: which is a sister to ozempic approved for approved for obesity, 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: so as zempic is for diabetes, what GOV is now 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: now In twenty twenty one twenty two, they spent a 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: billion dollars on advertising in the US, so they educated 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: the market on what GLP one did. Do you know 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: they also took out two hundred and sixty thousand doctors 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: for dinner and lunch. I don't think I'm getting anywhere 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: near that, but you know, we're going to try. 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: But this GLP one is this is this not basically 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: what your product also releases? 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so really interesting. They inject in a synthetic, so 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: you inject yourself in we stimulate your own natural release. 35 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Now a lot of things will say that, like a 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: berberine or something like that will say that, but we 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: stimulate at six hundred percent above baseline. You have to 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: be above four hundred just to make a behavioral change. 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: So we're six hundred. We did that. We know within 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: an hour we reduce calorie and tape by eighteen percent. 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: And I think what the last clinical we just published 42 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: a month ago in obesity pillars in the US. We 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: did it in women and we showed that we reduced 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: hunger by thirty percent, cravings by forty percent, and rebound 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: eating by fourteen and a half. I mean, this is 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: huge to get those behavioral changes. And this was developed 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: here in New Zealand by plant and food research. 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Why does it have a greater effect on women than men? 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: Oh, that's really interesting. Well, hypothesis is that women have 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: a greater sensitivity to GLP one, so this natural hormone 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: to tell you to stop eating to protect their fetuses. 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: So it's basically, yeah, it is. So that was that's 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: a hypothesis for it. So women and we also do 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: joke a little bit when when you know, when we're 55 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: do doing these clinical studies, we do believe women foreign 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: instructions more than men as well. 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: I've done a clinical study in my marriage and I 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: can tell you that's true. 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. No. 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: Now, now, you at one stage said that you believe 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: that you have here in your hands a one billion 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: dollar unicorn company. When are you going to hit the 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: one billion mark? 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know, just we are growing at four to 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: six hundred percent per quarter. This will be the twenty 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: fifth conference that we've been to in fifteen months, we 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: go again. We're literally going every month to these large conferences. Sorry, 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm taking a long way round. Do you know the 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: main thing that people say to us we go to 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: practitioner conferences, why haven't we heard of you before? Why 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: haven't we heard of you? So the biggest thing for 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: us in the US is not only word of mouth, 73 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: it's advertising. Noverboord spent a billion dollars that we're not 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: going to do that, and we don't have to do 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: that because we are the only natural and let me 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: say that, and we are the only natural one in 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: the world. And we're actually just being patented in December 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 2: last year in the US. 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: That's stuff. Now, given that Plants and Food was, you know, 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the part of the development of this, does the government 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: have a stake in it? 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, we pay back a royalty to them. Well, 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: I'd have to let Plant and Food say that. But 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm delighted by the royalty. And I'm not just being 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: altruistic here. You know, I've been in New Zealand And 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: in the science arena for many years and I'm absolutely 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: delighted that we're paying back a part of all of 88 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: our net sales to plant and food research. You know, 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: and I think this is important to realize in science 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: in New Zealand that early research is what would call 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: blue skies. There was nothing commercial or no commercial company 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: behind it, and that we can actually pay that money 93 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: back into So I'd like the government to keep thinking 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: about that blue skies research because that's where we came from. 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh, Sarah, how fascinating. Hey, thank you and best of 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: luck with everything. I hope it goes really well and 97 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: you make us an extremely wealthy country. Sarah Kennedy, founder 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: and chief executive of callokup. How good would that be 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: if they were or the natural ozempica we become the 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: you know what, who is it over in? Is it 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Finland or Denmarke? It's Denmark, isn't it? As making all 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the money of Ozmpic is like literally a portion of 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: their GDP. Now imagine if that was asked. How good 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: care we Bank has cut its mortgage rates again, so 105 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: the mortgage battle is still raging. Their one year rate, 106 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: which is now six point two nine percent, is the 107 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: best in the market. They've cut their shortened their long 108 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: term rates somewhere between four and twenty basis points unfortunately 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: did cut the deposit rates as well, but there you go. 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: It's on quarter two. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio