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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global

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Speaker 1: leader in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 2: Somebody has just sent me a link to the story

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Speaker 2: about Dame Knowles that has dropped today. I am aware

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Speaker 2: of it and I am going to talk to you

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Speaker 2: about it before six so station because you're going to

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Speaker 2: want to hear this with me on the huddle right now.

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Speaker 2: I have Jordan Williams and also Ali Jones have read

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Speaker 2: pr hullo you too, Okay, Jordan, do you think that's

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Speaker 2: money well spent for the Michelin Star business?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I'm not cool cool for them? Okay? Is it

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Speaker 3: a good use of six and a half million dollars

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Speaker 3: of the Zealand taxpayers money? Absolutely not to think as

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm just I'm just back from Spain

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Speaker 3: yere and we had you know, it was it was

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Speaker 3: Americans paying. It was wonderful. We went to Amma's incredible

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Speaker 3: food and Valencia and it would probably affect something like that.

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Speaker 3: You know what restaurants you went to. Would you go

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Speaker 3: to Spain and would you come to the Zellen because

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Speaker 3: they're miss Star restaurants? Clearly not? You come because of

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Speaker 3: the incredible food and the like. It's nice for them.

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Speaker 4: The argument is that if you're thinking about you, you're

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Speaker 4: stitching together an itinery, and you think, shall I go

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Speaker 4: to Melbourne or shall I go to Queenstown, and you

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Speaker 4: look at all the things you can do. Well, all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, Queenstown's got a whole bunch of Michelin stars,

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Speaker 4: and so the whole level of the thing goes up

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Speaker 4: for you and you pick it.

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Speaker 3: Look for a return for you know, six and a

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Speaker 3: half million dollars you're going to get what if in

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Speaker 3: order at least one hundred million in extra spending from

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Speaker 3: international tourists to justify that sort of spent. Clearly not either,

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Speaker 3: and that's you've got to look at the counterfactual. That's

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Speaker 3: six and a half million dollars out of the economy

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Speaker 3: from the taxpayers to spend on it. It actually suggests

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Speaker 3: that the quality of spending from tourism the Zealanders is poor.

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Speaker 3: Look for those restaurant heres that could get one amazing

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Speaker 3: Will the affect the restaurants that, as you know, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't probably not for men. Sure, I'm not choosing to

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Speaker 3: go to the best restaurants in the country, but it

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Speaker 3: will of them when I'm you know, when I'm big, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and will it will Will it mean that justify the

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Speaker 3: extra spend or resolve in extra spends?

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Speaker 4: Totally wrong, Ellie, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 5: Well, I hear what Jordan's saying, and this is rare,

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Speaker 5: but I tend to agree with him on this. But look,

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Speaker 5: I heard what you said earlier to Heather, and I

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Speaker 5: agree with you. I'm sitting on the fence here, So

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Speaker 5: rewarding those at the top of their game. Look, I'm

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Speaker 5: married to a chef, right and I like food, so

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Speaker 5: this is right up my alley, no pun intended. So

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Speaker 5: rewarding those at the top of their game and promoting

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Speaker 5: you know, amazing products and New Zealand and our foods,

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Speaker 5: taking advantage of of having that that mitchellin Lincoln and

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Speaker 5: relationship and that's fabulous and so I support it generally,

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Speaker 5: but with a cave And what worries me is it

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Speaker 5: feels a little bit like let them eat cake. You know,

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Speaker 5: as Jordan said, six and a half million dollars being

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Speaker 5: forked out pun intended by the taxpayer, and we can't

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Speaker 5: even bloody afford mints. So at the moment, if they're

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Speaker 5: going to do stuff like this. That's great, but move

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Speaker 5: along the opportunity for New Zealanders to enjoy the food

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Speaker 5: that we produce. I mean, Luxeon said in his stand

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Speaker 5: up today. What did you say? It's that New Zealand

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Speaker 5: is a really fortunate country and being able to grow

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Speaker 5: high quality food for the world. Yes, thanks, Chris, but

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Speaker 5: could you actually let some New Zealand eat New Zealanders

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Speaker 5: eat some of that food as well? So yeah, look,

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Speaker 5: I like the idea. I think it is going to

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Speaker 5: bring in the high spend, the high end tourism, people

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Speaker 5: who come here for golf, people who come here to eat,

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Speaker 5: but six and a half million dollars of taxpayers money

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Speaker 5: when we can't afford mints.

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Speaker 4: Come on, okay, we'll take a break. Come back to

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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Speaker 1: Short list the huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty.

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Speaker 4: Okay, back on the huddle.

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Speaker 2: We've got Jordan Williams and Ellie Jones. Now, Jordan, I

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Speaker 2: have to ask you this question of his because you

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Speaker 2: live in Auckland, Chloe reckons that were being hysterical about

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Speaker 2: the homelessness issue.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, well, i'd be hysterical too, but

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Speaker 3: probably from the other from the other side of it.

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Speaker 3: I really struggle coming back to Auckland when I've spent

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Speaker 3: a time in the South Island and you come back

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Speaker 3: and walk down Queen Street, it is just a disgrace.

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Speaker 3: Anyone who has visited rota Ua since COVID would would

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Speaker 3: would see the same thing. It's not being able to

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Speaker 3: move people on, which has looked to be what the

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Speaker 3: government is looking to do. Is a start, but the

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Speaker 3: real issue is is that you don't necessarily have people

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Speaker 3: to move them on too, you know since the eighties

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Speaker 3: where we've removed institutions or places to put people with

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Speaker 3: mental health problems. It is the real issue, and it

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Speaker 3: could I mean it's probably a good start. Look, I

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Speaker 3: am pretty concerned about homelessness and the degree to which

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Speaker 3: allowing homeless people to congregate it does bring down the

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Speaker 3: feeling of a city. I am posting international visitor at

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Speaker 3: the moment and that we put them up in CBD Auckland,

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Speaker 3: and I was ashamed of the homeless people sitting outside.

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Speaker 3: It is a Queen Street is now a dangerous place

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Speaker 3: at night. I don't think.

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Speaker 4: What do you reckon, ye allie? What do you think

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Speaker 4: of the idea of moving people on Are you comfortable

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Speaker 4: with that?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm more uncomfortable with the fact that I'm agreeing

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Speaker 5: with virtually everything Jordan is saying today, which is concerning

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Speaker 5: me greatly.

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Speaker 3: Yet.

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Speaker 5: Look, I haven't had a look at Queen Street for

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Speaker 5: a long time, and we do have a little bit

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Speaker 5: of an issue here. It's been an issue around Valentine's

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Speaker 5: and the city mall, and even in my local Edgewa

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Speaker 5: village there are some issues there as well. And alcohol

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Speaker 5: is the problem there, and we're trying to get alcohol

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Speaker 5: banned from you know, when they got rist drinking alcohol

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Speaker 5: in a public place rule, it.

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Speaker 3: Was to or law.

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Speaker 5: It was madness. I think Jordan's right though, we need

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Speaker 5: to know what the problem is. And again we're trying

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Speaker 5: to fix a problem without actually knowing what the problem is.

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Speaker 5: We're trying to fix the mental health is well, look

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Speaker 5: is it mental health? Is it addiction? Is it polity?

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Speaker 5: Is it a combination? Because if you don't know, because

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Speaker 5: they're all different issues, Jordan, and if you don't know

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Speaker 5: what they are, how do you know how.

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Speaker 3: To fix it? We do? I mean, there's you have

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Speaker 3: a social, wealthy, safety yet you know the government will

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Speaker 3: even put you up in a hotel if it's at

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Speaker 3: an absolute emergency. People choosing to live on the streets

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Speaker 3: or not having a social wealthy system where there is

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Speaker 3: zero requirements or expectations to chet And I think this

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Speaker 3: is a didn't go police. We're not able just to

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Speaker 3: move people on, able to take them somewhere. We have

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Speaker 3: had discipline that's now gone, you know, we've removed that

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Speaker 3: that And I think, as I say, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: astonished that you consider it a problem across you've spent

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Speaker 3: when I spend time and as I say in Christ

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Speaker 3: of the South Island, I go back to Auckland and

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Speaker 3: my first experience driving home as people knocking on your

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Speaker 3: window at the Hoursley roundabout begging for money. There is Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it does seem police not either don't have the powers

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Speaker 3: or are not moving people along.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but hang on a minute. What you said though, too,

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Speaker 5: that does make senses. We don't have the place for

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Speaker 5: those who are dealing with mental health and addictions.

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Speaker 3: There are not the same because we don't believe in

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Speaker 3: institutions anymore.

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Speaker 5: Well exactly, so we need to well that needs to

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Speaker 5: be addressed, and that's what I'm saying that, Yeah, if

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Speaker 5: we know what the issues are and how many of

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Speaker 5: these people that you're talking about edits or are dealing

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Speaker 5: with severe mental health that either can or can't be

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Speaker 5: fixed with medication because we don't even know that.

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Speaker 3: But you can't do it if you know that you can't.

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Speaker 3: That's my point is that is that we used to

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Speaker 3: the benchmark used to be a lot lower to say

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Speaker 3: you have to stay here and sort out your addiction

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Speaker 3: problem or we don't think.

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Speaker 5: You can do that if they're dealing with it.

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Speaker 3: We used to do that before nineteen eighty what we

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Speaker 3: used to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but the agencies that are dealing with them know

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Speaker 5: the answers to these questions. That should not be a

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Speaker 5: barrier that is not difficult to ascitain.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, listen, Thanks very much. It was really

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Speaker 4: instructive discussion. I really appreciated that. That's how the huddle

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Speaker 4: this evening, Allie Jones, Jordan Williams.

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