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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the huddle tonight. Bridget Morton, lawyer at

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Speaker 2: Frank's Ogilvy, is with us. Bridget, good evening to you.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Rob Campbell on the phone, Aut Chancellor, former

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Speaker 2: health en Z chair Rob, good evening. Good to have

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Speaker 2: you both here. What it will start with? Might as

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Speaker 2: well start here very quickly? Quick word your thoughts, Bridget.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Winston will go ahead and follow

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Speaker 2: France in the UK and everyone else or will we

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Speaker 2: go out on our own?

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Speaker 3: I think he will follow them. I think ultimately there'll

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Speaker 3: be a lot of caveats because Winston is well aware

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Speaker 3: of the foreign fears implications and didmitt indications of recognizing

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Speaker 3: the state of Palestine. But ultimately we want to be

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Speaker 3: seen as working alongside.

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Speaker 2: Our allies, Mike, Rob forgive me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to start a habit of it,

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Speaker 4: but I agree with bridgide On that that's what I

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Speaker 4: think we will do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, New Zealand. First, Bridget and invoking the agree

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Speaker 2: to disagree big deal or just elections coming in. It's

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Speaker 2: immigration so they pull the lever well.

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Speaker 3: I think it was in a number of immigration announcements

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Speaker 3: over the last six months, all aimed at getting more

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Speaker 3: skilled and people here and more investment on our shores.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately than he's in a thirst. They know that there's

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Speaker 3: the portion of their voters that don't agree with a

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Speaker 3: large immigration push, so ultimately they were going to push

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Speaker 3: back on something, and I think this is the thing

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Speaker 3: that started to do so.

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Speaker 2: Rob Do You had Shane Jones on earlier and he's saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, the immigration, sort of unfettered immigration changing the

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Speaker 2: demographics of New Zealand, and it's a sort of changing

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Speaker 2: the nature of New Zealand. Is it a bad thing?

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Speaker 4: Well? I mean Shane shouts at his dogs. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: use one of the traditional dog whistles, does he. He

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Speaker 4: makes it pretty clear what their real thoughts are. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I think frankly that the word racist is

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Speaker 4: what comes to my mind when I hear him raving

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Speaker 4: about it. I think he's out of churn with the

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Speaker 4: vast majority of people in the country. They're trickling out

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Speaker 4: these announcements on migration. I think this one's frankly pretty trivial.

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Speaker 4: Who knew that we were short of high expertise and

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Speaker 4: stewldry and hairdressing. That was a bit of a surprise

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Speaker 4: to me that it was a problem holding back the economy.

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Speaker 4: So frankly, ident think this one makes an awful lot

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Speaker 4: of difference. But yeah, it's a bit of election here

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Speaker 4: in bunging in on.

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Speaker 2: First government's changes to the Holidays Act Bridget it looks

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Speaker 2: like it's pretty balanced, and to be fair to Brook

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Speaker 2: van Veldet, it's a bloody hard job to try and

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Speaker 2: clean that mess up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean success. The governments have made

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Speaker 3: promises to clean up the Holidays Act because the miscalculations

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Speaker 3: and the burden we've had from underpay and then had

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Speaker 3: to repay people back is just extraordinary. This system is

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Speaker 3: very simple to understand. I think employers around the country

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Speaker 3: will be celebrating that, and I do think it actually

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Speaker 3: does make it fearer for our part time workers and

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Speaker 3: the whole because it does recognize the fact that they

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Speaker 3: don't need as much sickly because they're not working the

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Speaker 3: same number of das as a full time worker. But

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Speaker 3: it also recognizes that they should get loading when they're

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Speaker 3: not necessarily going to get them any other.

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Speaker 2: Way, yea true.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the global

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Speaker 2: Bridget Morton and Rob Campbell on the Huddle tonight, Rob

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Speaker 2: Trump and the autism research thing. What do you say

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Speaker 2: to all of that, and what do you say to

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Speaker 2: people who believe it or who think, you know, start

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Speaker 2: to worry that maybe there is a link.

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Speaker 4: Well, it would be very unfortunate if that was the case.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's much better this than in themectin

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Speaker 4: to solve COVID myself. So it really is quite nutty stuff.

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Speaker 4: And the less attention it's given the better. But I

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Speaker 4: don't want I don't want to let this go. I'm

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Speaker 4: afraid this new change to the Whole Day's Act does

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Speaker 4: not put a loading on part time worker, puts a

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Speaker 4: loading on casual work. The part time workers have lost

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Speaker 4: as a result of this. That gets fully prepared. Who

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Speaker 4: is proportional holiday leave right now? If you're not, you

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Speaker 4: get whole. They leave on the days you would have

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Speaker 4: worked for the hours you would have worked. It was

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Speaker 4: purely proportional before, and this takes rights away from part

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Speaker 4: time workers. So it does hurt a number of people,

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Speaker 4: a large number of people who are amongst the most

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Speaker 4: vulnerable people in our workforce. So I can't let Bridget

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Speaker 4: get away with misportraying that. But on the autism thing, honestly,

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Speaker 4: something Trump says just deserve to be treated with a

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Speaker 4: derision or ignored.

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Speaker 2: So sorry, can you come back to that, Rob, What

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Speaker 2: are you saying about casual workers? How are they worse off?

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Speaker 4: Casual workers are not worse off under this change that

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Speaker 4: they have had a small extra loading put on. But

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Speaker 4: a casual worker is someone who doesn't have any flixed hours.

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Speaker 4: A part time worker who works a certain number of

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Speaker 4: days a week or a certain number of hours in

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Speaker 4: the day will be worse off under this because they

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Speaker 4: only get paid in proportion to the ours. It's purely proportional. Now,

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Speaker 4: what they get the idea that part time workers get

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Speaker 4: extra thickly that the moment is just not right. If

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Speaker 4: you stick on a day you don't work, you don't

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Speaker 4: get leave. If you're a part timer, you only get

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Speaker 4: paid for the days that you are actually normally rosted

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Speaker 4: to work, and you only get paid for the hours

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Speaker 4: you normally do, which is purely proportional to what they do.

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Speaker 4: This takes the step.

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Speaker 2: Back bridget Do you want to comment on Trump or

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Speaker 2: do we move on?

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Speaker 3: I just think I feel for those parents out there that,

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Speaker 3: you know, a feeling, you know, did I do something

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Speaker 3: wrong or questioning what they have done, because they've got

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Speaker 3: children that with autism and for them, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: going to be a bunch of people they're going to

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Speaker 3: see Trump is a validation of their conservacy views. And

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Speaker 3: that's really fine there.

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Speaker 2: Sir Don McKinnon. Everybody's scratching around the back of a

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Speaker 2: sofa for an idea to give this economy a bit

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Speaker 2: of a tickle up. And so Don McKinnon says we

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Speaker 2: should host a Commonwealth Games.

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Speaker 4: What do we think, Rob, I think Don woke up

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Speaker 4: from a slumber one afternoon and thought he was still

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Speaker 4: Secretary General of the Commonwealth or something. You know, the

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Speaker 4: Commonwealth Games is a pretty low grade thing anyway, there's

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Speaker 4: no great attraction in doing it. There's very little evidence

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Speaker 4: that these big sports events actually do trigger any amount

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Speaker 4: of economic growth, certainly not sustained economic growth. So unless

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Speaker 4: Don's actually was half a sleep and wake up thinking

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Speaker 4: he was still Secretary of General, He's just wrong about it.

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Speaker 4: It's just a silly idea and again doesn't deserve any space.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well take no to the Commonwealth Games from Rob Bridget.

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Speaker 2: Anything positive to say about the Common Games?

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Speaker 3: Oh look, I applaud him for, you know, having throwing

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Speaker 3: a positive idea in there. But I think at Rob's

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Speaker 3: that's be right that the numbers just don't add up

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Speaker 3: that whole Wealth Game. That's why Victorias pulled out of it.

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Speaker 3: But I do disagree with Rob though that these big

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Speaker 3: sporting events don't bring economic game. We're actually with some

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Speaker 3: great events coming to New Zealand in the next couple

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Speaker 3: of years which will actually, you know, really help particularly

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Speaker 3: in our region. So in the world I'm Maintainionship and

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Speaker 3: TAPO or Traceon and World Championships and TOTTNGA post. Those

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Speaker 3: are great events that are really going to boost those

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Speaker 3: sort of economies without building giant athlete villagers.

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Speaker 2: What about the America's cut already had most of the

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Speaker 2: infrastructure here. You know, we said no to that Rugby

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Speaker 2: World Cup.

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Speaker 4: Can we get that batch?

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll leave it there. Guys, Bridget Morton and

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Speaker 2: Rob Campbell on the huddle tonight.

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