1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: The apprentice is just the slave, is just the whipping boy. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Is that still true? 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: I think things have moved on, thankfully. I think the 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: average apprentice now is earning a reasonable wage, in which 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: case they want them to be productive and not just 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: sort of sweeping the floor and emptying the bins as such. 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that the smokeo run is 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: not important. I mean, I remember myself and I'm actually 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: a qualified automotive engineer as well. Certainly, if you've got 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: the wrong pie or the incorrect coffee that was that was, 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: there was certainly wod shared over there. But I think 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: at the end of the day we have moved on, 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: and I think you have to start at the bottom. 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: You do, you do have to do you for your 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: share of jobs, but doing it apprenticeship is the best 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: way to get yourself up into those. There's technical roles. 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, the right of passage. Hey, someone's going to 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: look for those missing ten mill sockets they want to 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: find themselves. 20 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: There's there's a collection of them, some were Peter. 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: What sort of time commitment is it studying for a trade? 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: You look in terms of apprenticeship travel three years is 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: typically what we see as a standard apprenticeships some of 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: our more specialty trades. And you took the gas fitting, 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: you know that can be four years plus. But especially 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: when you get up from those certified trades, they do 27 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: become quite complex in a little bit longer. But obviously 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: the rewards are higher at the end as well. So 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: you know, you're electrical, and your and your and you're 30 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: gas fitting. In terms of your certified and plumbing, you 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: your certified trades to offer that little bit more and 32 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: then and it's worldwide as well. We have a really 33 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: good reputation across the world of being quite dynamic and 34 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: quite diverse trades. We still have a bit of that 35 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: can do kind of key we attitude where we get 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: exposed to a lot of different skills. We can see 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: house builds from foundation to roof. We can see still 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, full major mechanical repairs in our auto shops, 39 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: whereas a lot of other areas overseas people don't get 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: exposed to all of those different tasks, all of those 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: different challenges. So it makes us still a very very 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: attractive option when it comes to doing your oe for sure. 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Do you need to be prepared for long days? 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I mean you're pointed too. You know, we're 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: coming up to harvest season, so some of those times, 46 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: you know, you do have to respond to you know, 47 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: the customer's needs, and so some of the work that 48 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: we do can be around the clock. It can be 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: late nights, it can be early mornings. I mean most trades, 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: that's a bit of the early bird catches the worm. 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: Most trades will be out of the year. It's sort 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: of five point thirty off the work at six thirty 53 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: kind of thing. And then you know, if you're looking 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: at say mechanical repairs, I mean, if a truck breaks 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: down in the middle of the night, you can't sort 56 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: of leave it roadside stranded, so you know, you get 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: call outs and breakdowns and other things we do have. 58 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: You know, some of our engineering businesses are around the 59 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: clock as well, so we do have shift work in 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: some of those things. So it can be demanding. Often 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: the younger apprentices want to clock the bigger hours because 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: you still get things like over time, or you might 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: get call out pay or other things like that, and 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: that will helps, you know, it helps pay off that ranger. 65 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Too, right, it does, and when you don't have the 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: we regrets at home you may as well, I'll go 67 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: hellful weather. And that segue is quite nicely into my 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: final question. Is it ever too late? Peter? If I'm 69 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: sitting here thinking, ah, maybe I've done my dash and radio, 70 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: you don't see too many thirty something year old apprentices 71 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: out there. Is it ever too late? 72 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: It's never too late. Well, the funny thing is we 73 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: kind of have We almost have two or three phases, 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: so we have a lot of school leavers. And I'm 75 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: not going to lie, but we also have the sort 76 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: of mid twenties. So we have people sometimes who leave 77 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: school go laboring and they think, gosh, I should have 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: gone to check and got myself a qualification so I 79 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: can eatually be the boss or call the shots. And 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: we often have actually that sort of late thirties early forties, 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: and we often have people returning to us saying, well, 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: this career is for me. I actually know what I 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: want to do now I'm a whole grown up. So 84 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why it is really popular for 85 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: that sort of career changer is that you potentially don't 86 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: have to leave work. You can stay in work, take 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: up an apprenticeship, you're still earning while you're learning and 88 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: you're changing lanes while you're still getting paid. So what 89 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: we also know to be true is that most people 90 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: are only remaining in each job probably for three to 91 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: five years, and then they're saying, you know, career changing 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: is probably might be ten to fifteen in terms of 93 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: complete career change. So again coming back to us discussing 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: this situation, it does make it a really attractive and 95 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: viable option.