1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, the situation in the Middle East is escalating quickly. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Just a day after Israel's ground offensive in Lebanon, Iran 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: has launched nearly two hundred missiles at Israel, most of 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: which were intercepted. Israeli Prime Minister Ben Yamnett Yaho says 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Iran has quote made a big mistake and we'll pay 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: for it. Brinkardil is a policy analyst at the Australia 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Israel and Jewish Affairs Council, and is with us this. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: Evening, good evening, good away, Yeah. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Very well, thank you. So. Israel says a zion dome 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: system has intercepted and protected civilians from the missiles. But 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Iran state televisions is ninety percent of them hit their targets. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: So which party is right? 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: I think we'll probably find out in the next couple 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: of days. Certainly there were impacts in Israel, which I've 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: been looking all day. I haven't been able to find 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: out how many. But Israel has said that only two 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: Israelis and one two Israelis were injured and one Palestinian 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: was killed in the attack. And Israel's not the kind 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: of country where they would cover up deaths of civilians. 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Or deaths of soldiers at the army basis that were targeted. 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: So I think the attack was not as successful or 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: wasn't anywhere near as successful as Iran hoped. 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: So Binyam and Nina who says Israel will respond. If 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Israel responds, presumably Iran will respond to that response, and 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: we get stuck in a cycle. How do we break it? 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: I think we break it with the US. Iran actually 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: has a very weak military, which is the reason why 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: it's invested so heavy in proxy militias around them, at 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: least including obviously has Belaved, also Hamas and various militias 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: in Yemen and Iraq, and obviously it's missile program as well. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: But were the US to step in and send a 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: couple of missiles at say an Iranian drone making factory 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: or an Iranian missile factory, I think Iran would get 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: the message very quickly that it needs to step back. 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: That's I'm hoping will happen in the next couple of days. 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: What is the likelihood do you think that the US 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: will do that? 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: It's hard to predict. I think relatively good. Obviously, the 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: US is in an election cycle and the Republicans would 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: want a strong response, and they'll be asking for that, 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: so it might be electorally a good idea for Biden 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: to do a strike such as that. I'm not talking 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: war against Iran. I'm talking a limited point missile strike 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: because I think that will make Harris and the Democrats 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: look strong, which will which will help them electorally. 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do other countries avoid getting involved in this? If? 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: If the US is involved, inevitably are countries like Australia 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: and even New Zealand involved in some way. 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: Too, Certainly not militarily, I don't think so. I do think, however, 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: that Iran needs to be sent a message. Now. The 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: US can send Iran a military message, but I think 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: Western countries should send Iran a diplomatic message. 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Now. 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: The Islamic Revolutionary Guards CALL, which is like the elite 55 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: unit of the Iranian military. They are prescribed in America 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: as a terrorist organization because they because they conduct terrorist 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: attacks around the world, but they are also in charge 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: of Iran's missile program, and so they conducted the attack 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: over night. It were Australia or New Zealand or the 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: other five eys countries or other Western countries generally were 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: to prescribe the IIGC as a terrorist organization. I think 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: that would send a very clear and strong diplomatic methods 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: to Iran that the West is starting to hold Iran 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: accountable for its malfeasants around the world as relive around 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: the Middle East. 66 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, Brin, we appreciate it. That is, 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: bring Carlil for more from Hither Dupless thee Allan Drive. 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.