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Speaker 2: Hello, Jonna Good, Afternoon ed Welcome in to the Saturday

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Speaker 2: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks ed B. December thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: Happy sixty eighth birthday to one of the truly great

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Speaker 2: All Blacks loose forwards and leaders, Sir Buck Shelford. He

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Speaker 2: never captained a losing All Blacks team. Happy sixty eighth,

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Speaker 2: Sir Buck. Happy thirty fifth to former black Caps all

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Speaker 2: around a Cory Anderson. He played over one hundred games

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Speaker 2: across the formats for the black Caps and hit a

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Speaker 2: Indies and Queenstown on New Year's Day twenty fourteen. Happy Birthday,

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Speaker 2: Corey Anderson. I'm Jason Pine. The show was put together

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Speaker 2: by Andy McDonald. He produces it as well. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you need to know what that means. We're here

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Speaker 2: until three cracking day weather wise around most of the country.

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Speaker 2: You're enjoying some sunshine. We do appreciate you spending some

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Speaker 2: time with us this afternoon as well. New Zealand have

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Speaker 2: beaten the West Indies by nine wickets well inside three

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Speaker 2: days in the second cricket Test at the Basin Reserve.

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Speaker 1: Okay, never want to hurry anything.

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Speaker 2: Willy hurry this and he's pumped out.

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Speaker 3: What's that's before?

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Speaker 2: And dallion came Williamson hitting the winning runs yesterday. The

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Speaker 2: black Caps take a one and will lead in the

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Speaker 2: three Test series. The final Test starts Thursday at Mount Monganui.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand selector Gavin Larsen is with us shortly then.

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Speaker 2: I'm very keen for your thoughts on a couple of

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Speaker 2: Black Caps questions, mainly around selection, but also the debt

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Speaker 2: that is building in our national sides, particularly in our

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Speaker 2: through that decision. Meantime, former All Blacks assistant coach and

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Speaker 2: New Zealand have won the second cricket Test in Wellington,

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Speaker 4: Bouncer high in the air, who's underneath it?

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Speaker 5: Man coming in from fine leg? It takes a catch.

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Speaker 4: West Indy's called.

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Speaker 5: Out for one hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 6: Eight and New Zealand's need just fifty six runs to win.

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Speaker 2: This Test match and they got those runs to well,

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Speaker 2: They've got their in ten overs the loss of just

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Speaker 2: Tom Latham's wicket. Jacob Duffy Man of the match for

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Speaker 2: Larsen eight Test matches and one hundred and twenty one

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Speaker 2: He was black Caps selection manager from twenty fifteen to

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Speaker 2: for a secondstant as black Caps selector. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the role, Kevin, Welcome back to the radio. Good to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good too. Good to hear from your piney.

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Speaker 2: Much as I'm sure many cricket fans would have enjoyed

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Speaker 2: with the sides performance to win that second Test so convincingly?

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Speaker 7: But again it's all about you know, starting to blood

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Speaker 5: Now, I've loved.

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Speaker 7: Every minute of it. So when I was selecting previously

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Speaker 2: Yeah, over three hundred wickets for Otago in first class cricket,

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Speaker 7: I think it can work either way. You know, Test,

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Speaker 7: you know Dutch has showing, didn't he know, he got

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Speaker 7: Jacob Duffy top of the tree in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: So it's a great story and again it's a testament

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Speaker 2: Great to get your insight, Gav. Great to have you

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Speaker 7: Thanks Pinty. Awesome to chat Yep, good to.

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Speaker 2: A lot to unpack there, Keena. Talk some Test cricket

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Speaker 3: Happy holiday, and thanks for all your all your work

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Speaker 2: we're building in those I just as I was even

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Speaker 2: building that list together, this morning of the scene bowlers.

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Speaker 2: It's way longer than I actually even imagined it will

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Speaker 2: be when I started making the list.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, it's amazing, and it's obviously this, you know,

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Speaker 3: I thought out domestic cricket would be weak, but it's

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Speaker 3: obviously quite strong. That all these guys are coming through.

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Speaker 3: And it's great because they're all like, none of them

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Speaker 3: can rest on their laurels. They all have to fight

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Speaker 3: now for the place, and that's exactly what we want.

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Speaker 3: What bowl was, you know, sort of just trying for

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Speaker 3: that edge and in pace or whatever it is, variety

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Speaker 3: of balls, and so it's just excellent to have all

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Speaker 3: the strength. Another thing that Gavin said, which is backed

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Speaker 3: up my theory, is that all three forms of the

442
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Speaker 3: cricket are slowly merging. That's my theory that the skills

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Speaker 3: are becoming more transferable from all three forms. And Gavin

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Speaker 3: said that that you know, the gap between white ball

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Speaker 3: and test red balls is narrowing and that if you're

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Speaker 3: good in one you can easily trans transfer to the other.

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Speaker 2: Now, So yeah, yeah, no, I agree. And the other

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Speaker 2: thing I love dallis is that the likes of Blairtechna

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Speaker 2: and Michael Ray in particular, Folks and Jacob Duffy I

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Speaker 2: guess too, because they're early in their careers. There's no

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Speaker 2: way those guys would have gone out onto the basin

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Speaker 2: over the weekend with anything other in their minds than hey,

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Speaker 2: this is my place now I'm going to try and

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Speaker 2: keep it. They're not placeholders for the others. They may

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Speaker 2: well be. Look when guys come back, you know, when

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Speaker 2: Matt Henry comes back, he's clearly back into the side.

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Speaker 2: So someone drops out. But I just thought every one

458
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Speaker 2: of those guys went out there, Tickner, Ray, Duffy and

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Speaker 2: folks and just put their best foot forward and said,

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Speaker 2: oh look and see the idea you to drop me?

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Speaker 3: And hey too, Hey he took us opportunity. He just

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Speaker 3: looks the goods too, doesn't he.

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Speaker 2: So he does good player the easiest thing.

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Speaker 3: As you said, all these like we might say part timers,

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Speaker 3: they've taken their chance when it's been offered to them.

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Speaker 3: That all of them and stepped up. So it's just

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Speaker 3: looking really good for next year is going to be

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Speaker 3: such a stewy year for cricket. I mean we're playing Australia, England, India.

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Speaker 9: I think as well, yes, so.

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Speaker 3: It's the only thing about Ray is that he might

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Speaker 3: need to change his nickname from raiser depend on.

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Speaker 2: That's right, tell us here, there's already already got one

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Speaker 2: of those in Canterbury, haven't we. I noticed that Peter Fulton,

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Speaker 2: his domestic coach, calls him Zora. It's Ray Zor rather

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Speaker 2: than the whole razor. But I noticed that Glenn that

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Speaker 2: Gavin Larsen called him Raiser, but I think they call

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Speaker 2: him Zora in the in Canterbury cricket circles, just to

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Speaker 2: distinguish between he and Scott Robertson. Great to chat to

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Speaker 2: you here, Dallas. It's been awesome chatting cricket and other

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Speaker 2: sport with you across the year. I'm sure that that'll

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Speaker 2: continue as well. All the best here, Mike, please hold there,

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Speaker 2: got to get a breakaway with you right after this

483
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Speaker 2: speed line if you want to talk some cricket with us, Oh,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on our seam bowling

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Speaker 2: stocks and I'll also be keen to open up the

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Speaker 2: discussion on the Tom Blundle Mitch Hay thing. As you

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Speaker 2: heard from Gavin Larston unequivocally, Tom Blundle's our man, he's

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Speaker 2: our incumbent. We all know Mitch Hay is going to

489
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Speaker 2: play a lot of cricket for New Zia across the formats.

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Speaker 2: Terrific red ball batsman already he averages like in the

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Speaker 2: high forties in first class cricket with the bat. Mitch Hay,

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Speaker 2: he's a really good bat and a very tidy keeper.

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Speaker 2: Only twenty five years old. Going to play a lot.

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Speaker 2: But Tom Blundle is the incumbent. He wasn't dropped. He

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Speaker 2: came out of that team because of injury. So he

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Speaker 2: comes back in for the mount. Is that the right call?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty twenty seven to one. Back

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Speaker 2: with more of your calls on the cricket after this.

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Speaker 2: They be talking some test cricket. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty twenty four to one, Thanks for holding Mike.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon here, Good afternoon mate.

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Speaker 11: Hey, I'm trying to move to the conversation on a

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Speaker 11: little bit from the pace bowls and the keep us

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Speaker 11: to the spin bolls. Yes, and I'm a big chan

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Speaker 11: of Reguest tell he didn't see him to come into

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Speaker 11: this conversation at all.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure why.

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Speaker 2: I think he may be in the conversation for bay Oval, Mike,

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Speaker 2: And you know, ironically enough, given the fact you've brought

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Speaker 2: up he hardly ever plays at home. I think we

515
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Speaker 2: tend to go with Mitch Santner and he's not fit

516
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Speaker 2: at the moment. So I just wonder whether the door

517
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Speaker 2: might open for a JS Patel to perhaps play in.

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Speaker 2: Matt Mogna.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the reason I'd like to see him is because

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Speaker 11: he's he's a genuine wizard ticket but Phillips and based

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Speaker 11: on the hold up an end and but he will

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Speaker 11: get wizards for us.

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Speaker 2: Well, he just took us four hundredth first class work

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Speaker 2: and I think so you're right about that. He knows

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Speaker 2: how to get get you get guys out. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think I'm going to check those stats, Mike. But I

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Speaker 2: can't remember him ever playing a tease and.

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Speaker 11: He keeps saying it's because the conditions we green tops

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Speaker 11: and it's takes spin. But Beyov apparently does it takes

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Speaker 11: spin and then you go to look at what they does,

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Speaker 11: which is then Nathan White, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, I would. I'd be a big fan

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Speaker 2: of ajs Ptel playing. Yeah, I've always thought when he

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Speaker 2: got that that team wicket bag, remember done that exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's different over there. I know, I

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Speaker 2: know the conditions are very conducive to spin bowling over here,

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Speaker 2: and they're seeing friend of you. But if you don't

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Speaker 2: play anywhere, Michael will be mout going to be as

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Speaker 2: you say, favorite spin right yeah, and he.

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Speaker 11: Like the genuine We'll just take it. There's no need

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Speaker 11: to hold up an end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what they do a good good core mic. Look,

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Speaker 2: I they may and certainly given the fact that the

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Speaker 2: pace bowling stocks are so inexperienced, and yes, they did

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Speaker 2: well at the basin, and it would be hard to well,

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean Tichna won't play because that shoulders dissipated.

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Speaker 2: So there's so one new player is going to have

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Speaker 2: to come in, So they're going to have to bring

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Speaker 2: somebody into the eleven. I think. You know, folks, Duffy

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Speaker 2: and Ray have all earned the chance to play at

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Speaker 2: bay Oval from their performances in Wellington. Folks, so just

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Speaker 2: Zach Folks is an interesting one to me. Actually, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure he's quite quick enough yet to rarely trouble

554
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Speaker 2: top class batsman consistent at least still in twenty three

555
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Speaker 2: years old. He might develop that, But I heard it

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Speaker 2: suggested that he might want to look at becoming a

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Speaker 2: bowling all rounder, much in the same way that Nathan

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Speaker 2: Smith is. And maybe Zach Folks, you know, provides that

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Speaker 2: third seamer role, because I think in normal circumstances Zach

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Speaker 2: Folks wouldn't be opening the bowling. It was just that

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Speaker 2: we were so green that he did.

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Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he plays at the Mount, so

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Speaker 2: does Duffy, so does Ray Tickner comes out, So they've

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Speaker 2: got a choice to make there. Do they bring in

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Speaker 2: another debutante, Christian Clark, who was attached to the site,

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Speaker 2: So all of a sudden you're green again? Or is

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Speaker 2: it ajs Pattell as Mike is suggesting. Does he come

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Speaker 2: in and on a pitch which tends to be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more spin conducive and where you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a lot flatter, so you do need somebody to bowl

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Speaker 2: some some overs. Does he come in and with the

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Speaker 2: likes of you know, Ritch and revenge and Glenn Phillips

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Speaker 2: does he become the strike spin bowler there. The other

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Speaker 2: option I guess is they bring Michael Bracewell back in

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Speaker 2: and Michael Bracewell, who obviously played in christ Church just

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Speaker 2: basically as a straight swap for Blair Tickner in the eleven.

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Speaker 2: He provides spin. But again, as Mike said, you know

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Speaker 2: he's not He's not going to run through a side

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Speaker 2: necessarily for you where Ajs Betel might give him the

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Speaker 2: right conditions, Mike, Great, chat to your mate food for thought, JC,

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Speaker 2: Hello mate, just the pine you will. I'm very good.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Are you out Christmas shopping or something else?

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Speaker 10: That's the last thing I want to be doing, to

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Speaker 10: the last thing I want to do. I am going

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Speaker 10: to pack up a Christmas present, but I'm not going

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Speaker 10: there are more.

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Speaker 6: So Yeah, yeah, very sad.

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Speaker 10: Look just on our pace bowling. Look, we're in a

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Speaker 10: really unusual position. We've actually got tour timber, so we've

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Speaker 10: got we've got really good bowlers who can bowl line

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Speaker 10: and length with a bit of movement off the pitchure

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Speaker 10: through the year. But if I want to set that

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Speaker 10: ball in short, they've got that height to really get

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Speaker 10: that horrible lift. But my only concern is there's a

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Speaker 10: lot of talk about what we've got, but we're not

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Speaker 10: talking about who's out there, who's express So where is

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Speaker 10: our one five k and our bowler or where are they?

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Speaker 10: You know we're at day rather than him. You know,

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Speaker 10: we're not. We haven't brought that up in conversation yet.

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Speaker 10: And I think you know next year three Tests in Australia, sorry,

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Speaker 10: three Tests in England and then we end up with

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Speaker 10: four Tests against Australia. Line and length and a bit

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Speaker 10: of movement. It's not going to help us a lot.

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Speaker 10: We're going to need to a someone who can put

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Speaker 10: the fear of God into some of those batsman on

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Speaker 10: some of those pitchers.

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Speaker 2: Great, yeah, I tell you who they probably are. If

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Speaker 2: we're looking for candidates. Ben sears Is won and he

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Speaker 2: had that one Test match against Australia, has played a

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Speaker 2: bunch of T twenties for us and a few Odie

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Speaker 2: Eyes as well. He's I think currently working his way

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Speaker 2: back and that's the issue, as we always know with

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Speaker 2: pace bowlers is that they tend to break down a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Matt Fisher played that Test in Zimbabwe this year.

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Speaker 2: They really like him as a as a guy can

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Speaker 2: get up over one forty clicks and Will O'Rourke I

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Speaker 2: think is probably the other one, although he might he

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Speaker 2: might struggle to go over one forty consistently. I think

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Speaker 2: Ben Sears is probably your man to fit that profile.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you know, I think he's playing in Australia

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Speaker 10: at the moment that he's playing for Melbourne University. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 10: so it is he on a rehabilitation course of he

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Speaker 10: over there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like one of those return to cricket

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Speaker 2: plans that they that they talked about, or Gavin talked

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Speaker 2: about with Kyle Jamison. Yeah, they're managing his return and

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Speaker 2: I mean, even what's ben Cs? He'd be twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: you know, he just like a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Jamerson's the same. They just seem to because they put

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Speaker 2: so much strain on their bodies by bowling, it just

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Speaker 2: seems to affect some of them. I mean it actually

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Speaker 2: says a lot about Southy Bolton Wagner that they played

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Speaker 2: so much. But yeah, ben Cs just seems to pick

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Speaker 2: up all you know niggles on a fairly regular basis,

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Speaker 2: which is a shame.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I wonder if it's got something to do with

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Speaker 10: just the biomechanics of our bowlas in New Zealand, with

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Speaker 10: the conditions that we play. I mean, you go back

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Speaker 10: a few years and I go back a few years now.

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Speaker 10: You know Richard Hadley never broke down a lot. Hughan

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Speaker 10: Chaffield just you know, will not express just came in

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Speaker 10: and put it in and just played game after game,

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Speaker 10: over after over, didn't break down a lot. So what

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Speaker 10: are they doing now that causes them to break down

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Speaker 10: so much?

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Speaker 2: It's a very very good question, and I'm one I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you know the bio mechanism. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 2: what the doctors physios are probably trying to work out. JC.

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Speaker 2: You know, what, what can we do to alleviate these problems?

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Speaker 2: I think you know, Sir Richard obviously, you know he

653
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Speaker 2: basically halved his run up, didn't he and but didn't

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Speaker 2: lose any of his zip or his ability to take wickets.

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Speaker 2: I guess when you rely on express pace like Ben Sears,

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Speaker 2: like I mean, member Lockie Ferguson, He's only played one

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Speaker 2: Test match for US. It was that one in Australia.

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Speaker 2: I think he broke down on the first morning. You know,

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Speaker 2: one Test he's played for US and he's always been

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Speaker 2: called Adam Milne has never played a Test match for

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Another really quick bowler. So yeah, to to

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Speaker 2: have the body and also the ability to play Test

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Speaker 2: cricket as a fast bowler is something that not all

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Speaker 2: of these guys have been able to do well.

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Speaker 10: I think there's some stuff to learn. You know, Richard

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Speaker 10: Hadley obviously short in this run up and I remember

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Speaker 10: talking to Adam Ferori about that he played in that

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Speaker 10: testimonial game from and the Seat to Adam that you know,

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Speaker 10: short run up now, and he said, don't think for

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Speaker 10: a moment that he's slow. He could sit through. Umbra

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Speaker 10: is another one who's showing the world that he can

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Speaker 10: come off fifteen paces and still bowl very quick with swing.

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Speaker 10: So if there's something there that we can learn, you

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Speaker 10: know that we don't have to have really long run

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Speaker 10: ups to bowl fast. And I just wonder, you know,

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Speaker 10: the people that are looking after the fitness, conditioning and

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Speaker 10: biomechanics of our bowlers, are we just trying to get

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Speaker 10: too much pace by trying to be too aggressive in

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Speaker 10: our approaches as running into bowl rather than actually working

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Speaker 10: the body in a way to get to height and

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Speaker 10: pace without putting so much stress on those joints. I

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Speaker 10: think there's something.

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Speaker 1: There, you know.

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Speaker 10: I don't know why we have amazing bowlers but they

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Speaker 10: can't play. They can't play a season without breaking down

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Speaker 10: once or twice.

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Speaker 2: Great boy jays and look, I'm sure that in these

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Speaker 2: days of no stone being left unturned, somebody is looking

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Speaker 2: at it because you know, it would be a tragedy

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Speaker 2: if we get to the point where the likes of

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Speaker 2: Sears and o'rourk. I mean, Willow Rock's only twenty four

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Speaker 2: years old. It would be such a shame of his

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Speaker 2: if his ability to bowl, particularly at test level, was

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Speaker 2: truncated because of injury. But make great to chatty, all

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Speaker 2: the best with the with the Christmas present, pick up mate,

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Speaker 2: and look, feel free to call back next weekend if

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Speaker 2: you find yourself out and about as well, we can

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Speaker 2: pick up the conversation again. Good to chat to you, mate.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen away from one, we'll take a break and come

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Speaker 2: back on Texty C. Macram off a few paces one

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Speaker 2: of the best ever says this text yet correct will

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Speaker 2: O Rourke, as pointed out by Ben Stokes and Britta

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Speaker 2: McCullum is the only New Zealand Test bowler who can

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Speaker 2: bowl up to and pasted one fifty. Okay, so I've

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Speaker 2: under sold Willow Rourk there. I seem to remember him

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Speaker 2: as more of a low one forties, but up over

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Speaker 2: one fifty. I know Ben Sears can bowl that quick.

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Speaker 2: He's always been really rapid, but just you know, able

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Speaker 2: to string together decent lengths of time. And Kyle Jamison

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Speaker 2: is the He is the prime example of this. I

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Speaker 2: know he's not that quick, not up to the one fifties,

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Speaker 2: but do you remember when Cole Jamison came into the

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Speaker 2: Test team. He was absolutely brilliant. He complimented those other

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Speaker 2: three that we talked about before so well during that

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Speaker 2: World Test Championship period. But Coyle Jamison hasn't played a

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Speaker 2: Test for New Zealand since early twenty twenty four, nearly

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Speaker 2: two years out of the Test site. That is a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: It's such a shame. But hopefully, as Gavin Larson mentioned,

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Speaker 2: we can get to a point where he has managed

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Speaker 2: effectively enough that he can put in a decent body

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Speaker 2: of work, particularly with the next twelve to fourteen months

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Speaker 2: we go to England for test matches middle of next year.

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Speaker 2: India come here for test matches at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: next summer and then were off to Australia for four tests.

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Speaker 2: How good would it be to have every body fit

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Speaker 2: and available for the vast majority of those tests? How

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Speaker 2: good would it be to go to Australia on their

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Speaker 2: hard tracks over there and have Henry O'Rourke, Sears Duffy

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Speaker 2: and others. I'm getting excited even talking about it. Twelve

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Speaker 2: and a half to one back in a.

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Speaker 1: Mote the tough Questions off the turf Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 4: It's time for Lingo Fingo, Lingo Fingo.

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Speaker 2: What of uz? The it of New Zealand sal Grand

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Speaker 2: Prix Auckland fourteen and fifteen February next year, transforming New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's unofficial home of sailing into the City of sal GP.

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Speaker 2: Unlike any other kind of sailing, teams using the exact

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Speaker 2: packs for the ITM New Zealand sal Grand Prix. We're

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Speaker 2: going to give this away tomorrow. To get in the drawer.

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Speaker 2: Let's play sale GP, Lingo, bingo. All you have to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you three terms. I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 2: three three words. One of them is a real sailing

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Speaker 2: term and the other ones are not. So if you

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Speaker 2: would like to be in to win, text the words

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Speaker 2: sail and then which of the words is a real

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Speaker 2: sailing term to nine two nine two.

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Speaker 13: Ok.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the three words. You pick out

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Speaker 2: which one is a real sailing term. Text sale and

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Speaker 2: that word to nine two ninety two and you're in

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Speaker 2: to win that trip for two to Walkland for the

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Speaker 2: ITM New Zealand Sale Grand Prix. Okay, here are the

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Speaker 2: three words. Which of these is a real sailing term? Hydrofoil,

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Speaker 2: wind jack deck flair, which is the real one? Hydrofoil wind, jack, deck, flair, tech,

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Speaker 2: sale and the word which is a real sailing term

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Speaker 2: to nine two ninety two and if you're if you're right,

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Speaker 2: we'll put you in the drawer. What a great This

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Speaker 2: is a brilliant competition. Whoever came up with us deserves

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Speaker 2: next hour as well. It's coming up seven away from one.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

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Speaker 1: on eight ten eighty Weekends fort with Jason Hine News

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Speaker 1: Talk ZMV.

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Speaker 2: Four to one. Find a couple of text to mop

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Speaker 2: up on the cricket great interview with Gavin Laston, straight

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Speaker 2: to the point, nough, freely stuff. Gave us the goods.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was well informed. Thanks Pete, appreciate

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Speaker 2: the feedback and I'm sure gave Will as well. Let

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Speaker 2: us take a moment to appreciate the journey of Jacob Duffy,

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Speaker 2: says Andy, thirteen year veteran in the first class, seen

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Speaker 2: two five wicked bags in his feet first two tests.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't get any better for the pride of Lumsdon. Also,

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Speaker 2: Mitchey should keeper for the third test. A solid introduction

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Speaker 2: that should be built upon Yeah, I think you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be disappointed on that one. Andy. I think Gavin Larsen

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Speaker 2: certainly gave us the down low that Tom Blundell will

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Speaker 2: come back into the side. Mitche will play a lot

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Speaker 2: of Test cricket for New Zealand and whiteball cricket too.

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Speaker 2: He will be an all format cricket of for New

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Speaker 2: Zealand for several years. But Tom Blundell I think has

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Speaker 2: earned the opportunity to finish his Test career over the

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Speaker 2: next twelve to fourteen months. Thanks for all your calls

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Speaker 2: and texts. Severa Reese after one.

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Speaker 2: it's one oh seven. I'm Jason Pine and McDonald is

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 2: Look, all car park listening is welcome on weekend sport

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Speaker 2: at on text, in fact on email Jason. In preparation

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Speaker 2: for the black Caps tour to Australia next year, to

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Speaker 2: avoid the chaos that England find themselves in the New Zealand, players, coaching,

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Speaker 2: stuff and management need to be watching and listening to

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Speaker 2: the Australian commentators during the ashes. Ricky Ponting and co.

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Speaker 2: Are master strategists and they are providing the answers as

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Speaker 2: to what it takes to succeed in Australia. They cannot

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Speaker 2: believe how naive the English have been. Let us not

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Speaker 2: make the same mistakes, says at PS on bowling run ups,

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Speaker 2: Sir Richard gave us his iconic side skip. Yes he did,

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Speaker 2: he did. Speaking of the ashes, Jonathan Agnew's on the

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Speaker 2: show tomorrow's going to talk the ashes and whether England

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Speaker 2: are likely, in his view, to change their approach. One

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Speaker 2: of the most respected voices in cricket around the globe,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Agnew with us after midday tomorrow to talk some

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Speaker 2: ashes cricket. We've closed the We've closed the entries for

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Speaker 2: sailing Lingo bingo, but we'll play it again this hour.

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Speaker 2: I've got about thousand texts. This is part of Sale GP.

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Speaker 2: He Zellen Sale GP February next year in Auckland are

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Speaker 2: We're giving away return flights for two people to Walkland,

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Speaker 2: So listen out for your next chance to play sailing

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Speaker 2: Lingo bingo this hour. Sevu Reese will depart New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Rugby after the twenty twenty six Super Rugby season.

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Speaker 15: They go again the Crusaders. Sivu Rees thinks he's got

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Speaker 15: to try a potentially historic moment here in the context

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Speaker 15: of Super Rugby.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna go up Skirs. The TMO is gonna be required.

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Speaker 4: He's unpossessing in the ball touch of the line, so

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Speaker 4: we'll be a try.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 5: Sivu reees. They're on their feet. They're aware of the history.

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Speaker 15: Sevu reeas sixty six but try in Super Rugby and

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Speaker 15: now outright undisputed alone at the top of the Super

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Speaker 15: Rugby standings, but tries scored and.

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Speaker 2: The competition Super Rugby's all time leading tries scorer. Sever

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Speaker 2: Reese fell out of favor for the All Blacks this season,

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Speaker 2: before returning with two tries in the final Test of

853
00:45:16,027 --> 00:45:18,987
Speaker 2: the year against Wales. He has signed with French club

854
00:45:19,147 --> 00:45:22,747
Speaker 2: Pepignon and all sever Reese played thirty seven Test matches

855
00:45:22,787 --> 00:45:25,667
Speaker 2: for the All Blacks, scoring twenty tries. He was first

856
00:45:25,787 --> 00:45:29,147
Speaker 2: choice on the wing at the twenty nineteen Rugby World Cup.

857
00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:32,747
Speaker 2: Now sever Reese is contracted for all of next year

858
00:45:32,827 --> 00:45:35,627
Speaker 2: with New Zealand Rugby, but it is highly unlikely he'll

859
00:45:35,627 --> 00:45:37,787
Speaker 2: play for the All Blacks again. There is a caveat

860
00:45:37,867 --> 00:45:41,627
Speaker 2: as well to signing. Reports suggests that Pepignon must retain

861
00:45:41,747 --> 00:45:45,347
Speaker 2: their spot in the top fourteen next season if the

862
00:45:45,427 --> 00:45:48,467
Speaker 2: deal is to go through. They're currently last, which would

863
00:45:48,467 --> 00:45:50,667
Speaker 2: see them dropped into the second division. Let's see, let's

864
00:45:50,667 --> 00:45:53,667
Speaker 2: hope that they can retain their place and Severa Reese's

865
00:45:53,867 --> 00:45:57,587
Speaker 2: three year deal can go ahead. Sever Reese is with

866
00:45:57,747 --> 00:46:01,707
Speaker 2: us on Weekend Sport. Congratulations on the next chapter in

867
00:46:01,827 --> 00:46:04,387
Speaker 2: your rugby career. Sever How did this all come about?

868
00:46:05,867 --> 00:46:10,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, honestly, it's yeah, it was probably one of the

869
00:46:11,027 --> 00:46:15,027
Speaker 8: toughest decisions I've had to make so far. And yeah,

870
00:46:15,467 --> 00:46:19,747
Speaker 8: this was one of them, decision to live New Zealand

871
00:46:19,787 --> 00:46:22,627
Speaker 8: and go Farans. But you know, so much thought has

872
00:46:22,667 --> 00:46:25,707
Speaker 8: been put into it, and we just think that the

873
00:46:25,827 --> 00:46:29,827
Speaker 8: timing is right, and but yeah, we'll definitely miss New Zealand.

874
00:46:30,427 --> 00:46:34,147
Speaker 2: Were there times during the decision making process, ever, when

875
00:46:34,187 --> 00:46:38,627
Speaker 2: you were leaning towards staying in New Zealand one hundred?

876
00:46:39,187 --> 00:46:41,587
Speaker 8: You know, we look ahead, We've got the World Cup

877
00:46:42,267 --> 00:46:45,467
Speaker 8: and you know, I feel like, you know, I can

878
00:46:45,547 --> 00:46:48,707
Speaker 8: stay here and try to have another crack at going

879
00:46:48,747 --> 00:46:50,627
Speaker 8: to the World Cup. And they had all these things

880
00:46:51,307 --> 00:46:54,547
Speaker 8: in my head and you know, like it's like I said,

881
00:46:54,587 --> 00:46:57,307
Speaker 8: it was, it was so tough and I just had

882
00:46:57,347 --> 00:47:00,747
Speaker 8: to you know, like so much going back and forth,

883
00:47:00,787 --> 00:47:03,947
Speaker 8: back and forth conversations with people that I needed to

884
00:47:04,067 --> 00:47:07,507
Speaker 8: have and yeah, just really came down to you know

885
00:47:07,667 --> 00:47:10,987
Speaker 8: what me and my family were happy with, and yeah,

886
00:47:11,027 --> 00:47:12,187
Speaker 8: this is what we're happy with.

887
00:47:12,587 --> 00:47:14,547
Speaker 2: So now that you've made the decision, as you say,

888
00:47:14,547 --> 00:47:17,547
Speaker 2: it was, you know, a tricky decision making process, Now

889
00:47:17,587 --> 00:47:20,467
Speaker 2: that you've landed on this call, do you feel at

890
00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:23,187
Speaker 2: peace with it? Now that you've actually made the decision

891
00:47:23,227 --> 00:47:25,747
Speaker 2: to leave, Yeah, one hundred percent.

892
00:47:25,947 --> 00:47:29,307
Speaker 8: You know, like what wasn't until like I said, I

893
00:47:29,387 --> 00:47:32,987
Speaker 8: woke up this morning because the club in France they

894
00:47:33,107 --> 00:47:37,507
Speaker 8: announced it obviously what we're all still sleeping, so we yeah,

895
00:47:37,547 --> 00:47:40,507
Speaker 8: wouldn't work up this morning and just seeing you know,

896
00:47:40,707 --> 00:47:43,987
Speaker 8: like all the messes from people, and you know that's

897
00:47:44,027 --> 00:47:46,747
Speaker 8: when everything's sort of just sunk in and just felt

898
00:47:46,827 --> 00:47:49,987
Speaker 8: real and you know, just started to get super emotional

899
00:47:50,147 --> 00:47:53,107
Speaker 8: just thinking of, you know, leaving New Zealand. But you

900
00:47:53,147 --> 00:47:57,267
Speaker 8: know that's this life and you know they say life

901
00:47:57,347 --> 00:47:59,427
Speaker 8: goes on, so yeah, indeed it does.

902
00:47:59,747 --> 00:48:02,747
Speaker 2: And you might be going just yet because there's a

903
00:48:02,827 --> 00:48:05,227
Speaker 2: super rugby season to be had with the Crusaders. How

904
00:48:05,307 --> 00:48:07,707
Speaker 2: important was it for you to have one more season?

905
00:48:07,787 --> 00:48:11,427
Speaker 2: To have twenty twenty six with the Crusaders before you left.

906
00:48:13,107 --> 00:48:17,107
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was very important, and I have had

907
00:48:17,147 --> 00:48:19,707
Speaker 8: that in my head this whole time. You know, I've

908
00:48:20,787 --> 00:48:24,467
Speaker 8: I've got one more shot at you know, you've got

909
00:48:24,507 --> 00:48:27,267
Speaker 8: the new stadium in christ it's you know, to be

910
00:48:27,387 --> 00:48:30,987
Speaker 8: part of the first Crusaders team to play in that.

911
00:48:31,267 --> 00:48:35,107
Speaker 8: And also I've got one hundred games as well coming

912
00:48:35,227 --> 00:48:37,667
Speaker 8: up for the Crusaders, So you know, I've got a

913
00:48:37,707 --> 00:48:39,787
Speaker 8: few more boxes to tick and you know I'll see

914
00:48:39,827 --> 00:48:42,747
Speaker 8: that one hundred games will be will be the icing

915
00:48:42,827 --> 00:48:43,547
Speaker 8: and the cake for me.

916
00:48:43,827 --> 00:48:47,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, some cool milestones to look forward to in terms

917
00:48:47,067 --> 00:48:49,387
Speaker 2: of your All Blacks career for now, anyway, it'll be

918
00:48:49,427 --> 00:48:51,227
Speaker 2: off to one side. Who knows what the future holds,

919
00:48:51,267 --> 00:48:53,467
Speaker 2: but for now, your time in the Black jersey has

920
00:48:53,547 --> 00:48:55,187
Speaker 2: come to an end. Have you had the chance to

921
00:48:55,987 --> 00:48:58,787
Speaker 2: reflect on what a special time it was for you

922
00:48:58,947 --> 00:49:00,387
Speaker 2: representing the All Blacks?

923
00:49:01,547 --> 00:49:04,547
Speaker 8: Oh, one hundred percy, like you've your kid's dream here

924
00:49:05,427 --> 00:49:07,147
Speaker 8: has to be an All Black and you know, I

925
00:49:07,267 --> 00:49:11,747
Speaker 8: was very blessed and lucky enough to to make that

926
00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:15,187
Speaker 8: come true for me and my family. And you know,

927
00:49:16,587 --> 00:49:20,187
Speaker 8: just thanks to all the coaches this you know past

928
00:49:20,267 --> 00:49:24,067
Speaker 8: in prison that gave me the opportunity to represent New Zealand,

929
00:49:24,507 --> 00:49:28,347
Speaker 8: and you know, I see it. I know everyone wants

930
00:49:28,387 --> 00:49:30,067
Speaker 8: to be an All Black and you know, being in

931
00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:34,027
Speaker 8: the environment every day, as you know, you don't take

932
00:49:34,067 --> 00:49:37,187
Speaker 8: it lightly. And you know, like I said it, you know,

933
00:49:37,267 --> 00:49:41,027
Speaker 8: I've achieved my dream that I've I've always wanted to

934
00:49:41,107 --> 00:49:43,787
Speaker 8: do and you know, but unfortunately for now, I'll have

935
00:49:43,907 --> 00:49:47,427
Speaker 8: to push it to the side. And yeah, obviously you know,

936
00:49:47,547 --> 00:49:51,907
Speaker 8: focus on Super Ugly now and obviously what comes after that.

937
00:49:52,147 --> 00:49:55,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if your last test or the last test

938
00:49:55,307 --> 00:49:57,187
Speaker 2: you play is to be your last game for the

939
00:49:57,267 --> 00:49:59,187
Speaker 2: All Blacks that went against Wales at Cardiff, You've got

940
00:49:59,227 --> 00:50:02,307
Speaker 2: those tries that you scored, including the ankle breaker in

941
00:50:02,387 --> 00:50:03,787
Speaker 2: the corner. Not a bad way to go out.

942
00:50:06,787 --> 00:50:09,387
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well no, that was cool. Like I said,

943
00:50:09,427 --> 00:50:12,627
Speaker 8: you know, I've give them opportunity in that last game

944
00:50:12,747 --> 00:50:15,187
Speaker 8: and you know I made sure to make the most

945
00:50:15,227 --> 00:50:19,147
Speaker 8: of it and the Minister get trying, which is pretty cool.

946
00:50:19,227 --> 00:50:20,747
Speaker 2: It was very cool. So when you think of the

947
00:50:20,867 --> 00:50:24,427
Speaker 2: young Sevo Reese who grew up in Fiji loving the

948
00:50:24,467 --> 00:50:27,507
Speaker 2: game of rugby and you look back now, how much

949
00:50:27,587 --> 00:50:30,427
Speaker 2: pride do you feel about what you've achieved? For the

950
00:50:30,547 --> 00:50:33,747
Speaker 2: various teams you have represented No.

951
00:50:33,907 --> 00:50:37,347
Speaker 8: One hundred. You know, like I said, you know, I'm

952
00:50:37,427 --> 00:50:39,147
Speaker 8: just a you know, I was I was a little

953
00:50:39,267 --> 00:50:41,947
Speaker 8: kid from Fiji. You know, I was born in Fiji.

954
00:50:43,547 --> 00:50:46,987
Speaker 8: You know, I grew up in Fiji and moved over

955
00:50:47,067 --> 00:50:51,307
Speaker 8: to New Zealand for for better life and hoping that

956
00:50:51,467 --> 00:50:54,667
Speaker 8: one day I'm able to support my family. And you know,

957
00:50:54,827 --> 00:50:57,467
Speaker 8: today I can, I can happily say that, you know,

958
00:50:57,627 --> 00:51:00,347
Speaker 8: I've ticked all those boxes, and you know, all the teams,

959
00:51:00,587 --> 00:51:03,027
Speaker 8: all the teams that I was a part of, and

960
00:51:03,187 --> 00:51:06,987
Speaker 8: in the friendships and relationships that I've I've built over

961
00:51:07,107 --> 00:51:10,907
Speaker 8: the last time and many years and in up until today.

962
00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,827
Speaker 8: You know, I get to sit back and yeah, you know,

963
00:51:15,027 --> 00:51:17,027
Speaker 8: just look back and just yeah, it just makes me

964
00:51:17,147 --> 00:51:20,187
Speaker 8: so proud and just happy knowing that I've given everything

965
00:51:20,507 --> 00:51:22,067
Speaker 8: to all the teams that I've been a part of,

966
00:51:23,107 --> 00:51:27,387
Speaker 8: and you know, and hope hopefully I've made made some

967
00:51:27,507 --> 00:51:31,867
Speaker 8: of the fans proud, and you know, just yeah, I

968
00:51:31,987 --> 00:51:34,787
Speaker 8: know that just brings you so much story and just

969
00:51:34,907 --> 00:51:38,667
Speaker 8: happiness just thinking about, Yeah, my career so far here

970
00:51:38,707 --> 00:51:39,507
Speaker 8: and and.

971
00:51:39,547 --> 00:51:42,867
Speaker 2: The other thing we've loved watching you be for anything

972
00:51:42,907 --> 00:51:45,227
Speaker 2: you play for as a hype man. That's something we've

973
00:51:45,267 --> 00:51:48,107
Speaker 2: come to expect from Seva Roost. When you're forwards affect

974
00:51:48,147 --> 00:51:50,867
Speaker 2: a turnover or something similar, you're the first one in

975
00:51:50,987 --> 00:51:53,307
Speaker 2: there with the with the chart hoo's and the pats

976
00:51:53,307 --> 00:51:56,387
Speaker 2: on the back. Is that something that you have intentionally

977
00:51:56,507 --> 00:51:58,627
Speaker 2: wanted to bring to the teams that you've been a

978
00:51:58,667 --> 00:51:58,907
Speaker 2: part of.

979
00:52:00,667 --> 00:52:03,467
Speaker 8: Yeah, or one hundred percent. You know, like if you

980
00:52:04,107 --> 00:52:07,107
Speaker 8: you know, if you look at the rugby played today

981
00:52:07,307 --> 00:52:10,387
Speaker 8: and you know that the modern rugby, you know, almost

982
00:52:10,467 --> 00:52:13,627
Speaker 8: all teams are all teams. You can say all teams

983
00:52:13,627 --> 00:52:16,267
Speaker 8: are the same. You know, we almost trained the same

984
00:52:16,307 --> 00:52:18,227
Speaker 8: amount of hours and eveything, and I think, you know,

985
00:52:18,227 --> 00:52:21,107
Speaker 8: it comes down to just just little things of like

986
00:52:21,307 --> 00:52:23,907
Speaker 8: you know, how high you can obviously get it and

987
00:52:24,027 --> 00:52:29,667
Speaker 8: get into other other teams' heads and just little things,

988
00:52:29,707 --> 00:52:31,907
Speaker 8: you know. But but at the same time, it's you know,

989
00:52:32,187 --> 00:52:35,187
Speaker 8: we do it to celebrate the little wins that we

990
00:52:35,387 --> 00:52:37,427
Speaker 8: had and it could have been from a scrum our

991
00:52:37,467 --> 00:52:39,787
Speaker 8: big boys could have had a really good scrum more

992
00:52:40,267 --> 00:52:42,947
Speaker 8: or you know, just we want a penalty or just

993
00:52:43,067 --> 00:52:44,947
Speaker 8: something like that, just you know, getting in there and

994
00:52:45,147 --> 00:52:48,427
Speaker 8: just showing those big boys how much issue. You appreciate

995
00:52:49,347 --> 00:52:51,107
Speaker 8: what they've just did. Love it, love it.

996
00:52:51,187 --> 00:52:54,227
Speaker 2: Well, you've signed for three years on this deal in France.

997
00:52:54,867 --> 00:52:57,907
Speaker 2: Have you thought beyond that about what the future might hold.

998
00:52:57,947 --> 00:53:00,347
Speaker 2: Can you see yourself, for example, coming back to New

999
00:53:00,427 --> 00:53:01,547
Speaker 2: Zealand at some point.

1000
00:53:04,187 --> 00:53:07,627
Speaker 8: I've been yeah, I'll just ask it just before, you know,

1001
00:53:07,747 --> 00:53:12,947
Speaker 8: because i'm you know, on Fijian and you know three

1002
00:53:13,027 --> 00:53:15,947
Speaker 8: years time i'll be eligible for for Fuji as well,

1003
00:53:16,147 --> 00:53:20,787
Speaker 8: so be It's like I said, you know, there's lots

1004
00:53:20,867 --> 00:53:26,427
Speaker 8: there for me, but honestly, when we leave New Zealand,

1005
00:53:26,707 --> 00:53:29,147
Speaker 8: there'll be no looking back for sure. And you know

1006
00:53:29,227 --> 00:53:31,627
Speaker 8: I was going to go there with with the mindset

1007
00:53:31,667 --> 00:53:35,227
Speaker 8: of just going there to play some good rugby, you know,

1008
00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:39,187
Speaker 8: enjoy create some some more amazing memories of my little family,

1009
00:53:39,307 --> 00:53:43,347
Speaker 8: and you know, whatever whatever happens in the future happens,

1010
00:53:43,387 --> 00:53:47,067
Speaker 8: whether it's a Fiji jersey or on New Zealand jersey again,

1011
00:53:47,187 --> 00:53:49,587
Speaker 8: then yeah, we'll just wait and see.

1012
00:53:49,707 --> 00:53:51,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll look forward to seeing how that plays out. Well,

1013
00:53:51,627 --> 00:53:54,227
Speaker 2: we get to watch you for one more Super RUGB

1014
00:53:54,347 --> 00:53:58,067
Speaker 2: season with the Crusaders. Sever congratulations on a terrific All

1015
00:53:58,147 --> 00:54:00,227
Speaker 2: Blacks career. Thank you for all the joy you've brought

1016
00:54:00,227 --> 00:54:02,147
Speaker 2: to so many people during your time in the Black Jersey.

1017
00:54:02,387 --> 00:54:04,147
Speaker 2: All the best for the Super Rugb season ahead, and

1018
00:54:04,667 --> 00:54:05,827
Speaker 2: thanks for chatting to us today.

1019
00:54:05,987 --> 00:54:07,707
Speaker 8: I think someone's appreciated these two.

1020
00:54:07,867 --> 00:54:10,387
Speaker 2: No, thank you, sir sever Reese there, so yeah, he's

1021
00:54:10,427 --> 00:54:13,867
Speaker 2: not leaving yet. Annoyingly for the rest of us, he'll

1022
00:54:13,907 --> 00:54:16,187
Speaker 2: probably be part of a Crusader side that will win

1023
00:54:16,227 --> 00:54:20,347
Speaker 2: another Super Rugby title. But for now, as far as

1024
00:54:20,427 --> 00:54:22,347
Speaker 2: the All Blacks are concerned, that is it. And you

1025
00:54:22,347 --> 00:54:25,107
Speaker 2: would have to think that is it. I just simply

1026
00:54:25,147 --> 00:54:27,467
Speaker 2: can't see a set of circumstances under which sever Ruce

1027
00:54:27,467 --> 00:54:30,147
Speaker 2: would play for the All Blacks again. He's twenty nine now,

1028
00:54:30,227 --> 00:54:32,667
Speaker 2: sob be thirty two when he comes back, if he

1029
00:54:32,707 --> 00:54:35,347
Speaker 2: does come back. And look, you know, I think we've

1030
00:54:35,547 --> 00:54:39,747
Speaker 2: kind of learned that wingers, you know, they certainly are

1031
00:54:39,827 --> 00:54:42,147
Speaker 2: the hot hand when it comes to selection, and that's

1032
00:54:42,187 --> 00:54:45,787
Speaker 2: exactly what sever Reese was in twenty nineteen. He and

1033
00:54:45,867 --> 00:54:49,707
Speaker 2: George Bridge came into those wing spots having had very

1034
00:54:49,747 --> 00:54:52,467
Speaker 2: little test rugby going into the World Cup in twenty

1035
00:54:52,547 --> 00:54:57,427
Speaker 2: nineteen and were first choice across that tournament. And I

1036
00:54:57,547 --> 00:54:59,107
Speaker 2: think the same thing's going to happen at the next

1037
00:54:59,227 --> 00:55:03,707
Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup. I honestly think there may be a situation,

1038
00:55:03,987 --> 00:55:08,427
Speaker 2: a scenario under which the charding, winger or wingers plural

1039
00:55:08,907 --> 00:55:12,107
Speaker 2: for us at the next Rugby World Cup in twenty

1040
00:55:12,147 --> 00:55:16,787
Speaker 2: twenty seven are players we haven't yet seen debut because

1041
00:55:16,827 --> 00:55:20,947
Speaker 2: it is it's the wing above all other positions in rugby,

1042
00:55:21,027 --> 00:55:23,067
Speaker 2: and particularly in the All Blacks at a World Cup.

1043
00:55:23,107 --> 00:55:27,587
Speaker 2: Time is a form thing. It is the hot hand,

1044
00:55:27,707 --> 00:55:31,947
Speaker 2: as Elliott Smith, our rugby editor and match commentator, calls it.

1045
00:55:33,147 --> 00:55:36,627
Speaker 2: A guy like Caleb Tungataw might be a great example.

1046
00:55:36,987 --> 00:55:39,827
Speaker 2: I mean, Lee Roy Carter came in this year having

1047
00:55:39,947 --> 00:55:41,787
Speaker 2: you know, really, I mean, I'm not sure that many

1048
00:55:41,827 --> 00:55:44,867
Speaker 2: people a year ago were picking Lee Roy Carter to

1049
00:55:44,907 --> 00:55:46,307
Speaker 2: play as often for the All Blacks as he did

1050
00:55:46,347 --> 00:55:48,867
Speaker 2: this year. So who knows who it's going to be

1051
00:55:49,787 --> 00:55:53,147
Speaker 2: in a couple of years. Time updating, you want some

1052
00:55:53,267 --> 00:55:57,147
Speaker 2: live sport before we move as does seem a rather unseasonal,

1053
00:55:57,387 --> 00:56:00,227
Speaker 2: unseasonable focus on rugby. I know that, but I'm going

1054
00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:03,187
Speaker 2: to chat to Clarke laid Law shortly hurricaneses coach, because

1055
00:56:03,227 --> 00:56:06,227
Speaker 2: speaking of the All Blacks, Jason Holland, who has just

1056
00:56:06,467 --> 00:56:10,307
Speaker 2: departed the All Blacks as assistant coach, will now be

1057
00:56:10,347 --> 00:56:12,627
Speaker 2: an assistant coach back at the Hurricanes, where he was

1058
00:56:12,707 --> 00:56:16,227
Speaker 2: previously before the All Blacks a head coach. So how's

1059
00:56:16,267 --> 00:56:18,067
Speaker 2: this going to work? This is a really interesting development,

1060
00:56:18,107 --> 00:56:21,067
Speaker 2: So Clarke laidlaw on that in just a second Live

1061
00:56:21,107 --> 00:56:24,307
Speaker 2: Sport Plunket Shell cricket. It's lunch at our three Venues,

1062
00:56:25,147 --> 00:56:30,027
Speaker 2: Otago ninety one for four batting first against Central Districts

1063
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Speaker 2: in their match at the University of Otago Oval in Dunedin,

1064
00:56:35,267 --> 00:56:40,027
Speaker 2: having been sent in by CD. Also lunch in Fuga

1065
00:56:40,067 --> 00:56:44,507
Speaker 2: day at Cobbham Oval where Wellington are one hundred for

1066
00:56:44,667 --> 00:56:46,907
Speaker 2: two one hundred for two in their first innings having

1067
00:56:46,947 --> 00:56:49,667
Speaker 2: won the toss and elected to bat first. And the

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00:56:49,747 --> 00:56:53,027
Speaker 2: third game is in a Chross Chach have you Oval

1069
00:56:53,227 --> 00:56:57,427
Speaker 2: where we spoke to Gavin Larsen previously and Auckland eighty

1070
00:56:57,547 --> 00:57:01,067
Speaker 2: seven for six eighty seven for six at lunch. There

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00:57:01,707 --> 00:57:04,667
Speaker 2: so a bit of work to do for them, Auckland

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00:57:04,787 --> 00:57:07,427
Speaker 2: having been sent in by cam Canterbury. And we have

1073
00:57:07,587 --> 00:57:10,947
Speaker 2: three halle Burton Johnston Shield matches as well round five

1074
00:57:11,067 --> 00:57:16,547
Speaker 2: matches in our women's domestic fifty over competition CD one

1075
00:57:16,667 --> 00:57:18,747
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety one for eight, having won the toss

1076
00:57:18,787 --> 00:57:21,867
Speaker 2: and elected to bat first against Otago, Canterbury all out

1077
00:57:21,907 --> 00:57:24,267
Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty six against Wellington who are

1078
00:57:24,707 --> 00:57:29,067
Speaker 2: three for one in reply, and Auckland all out one

1079
00:57:29,187 --> 00:57:32,587
Speaker 2: fifty seven having been sentenced by Northern who are about

1080
00:57:32,627 --> 00:57:35,227
Speaker 2: to start their run chase. So those are the cricket

1081
00:57:35,267 --> 00:57:37,427
Speaker 2: scores we have for you one twenty three it is.

1082
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Speaker 2: We'll take a break as as they come back. And

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Speaker 2: here from Clark laid Law about the acquisition, the reacquisition,

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to get in the drawer. It's as simple as

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Speaker 2: lingo bingo. I'm gonna give you three words. One of

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Speaker 2: them is a real sailing term, the other two are not.

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00:59:44,027 --> 00:59:46,747
Speaker 2: Text the words sale and which of the words is

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Speaker 2: a real sailing term to nine two niney two, and

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Speaker 2: if you get it right, you're in the drawer for

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Speaker 2: that trip for two to Walkland for the ITM New

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Speaker 2: Zealand se Grand Prix fourteen and fifteen February next year.

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Speaker 2: If you need to mark the dates on your diary, Okay,

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Speaker 2: here are the three words. Tell me which one of

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Speaker 2: these is a real sailing term, and text it with

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Speaker 2: the words say well to nine two nine two The

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Speaker 2: three terms side cast wing, trim jiblock, side cast wing

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Speaker 2: trim jiblock, which is the real sailing term? Text the

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Speaker 2: word sale and the real term to nine two ninety

1130
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Speaker 2: two and you're you're in the drawer. We'll keep we'll

1131
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Speaker 2: keep text open for a wee while and let you

1132
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Speaker 2: know when they're closed. Nine two ninety two is our

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Speaker 2: text number. Sale JP Sale gp Lingo Bick can't wait

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Speaker 2: to be at sal gp Auckland fourteen and fifteenth February

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Speaker 2: next year. We're going to set up as we normally

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Speaker 2: do in the in the media center there and bring

1137
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Speaker 2: you all of the action across that weekend. It's always

1138
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Speaker 2: an absolutely terrific event. Back to the future for now

1139
01:00:54,907 --> 01:00:59,267
Speaker 2: former All Blacks assistant coach Jason Holland. Having opted not

1140
01:00:59,467 --> 01:01:02,107
Speaker 2: to seek a contract extension with the All Blacks after

1141
01:01:02,227 --> 01:01:05,547
Speaker 2: two seasons, Jason Holland will return to the Hurricanes as

1142
01:01:05,667 --> 01:01:10,027
Speaker 2: an assistant for their twenty twenty six Super Rugby Pacific campaign.

1143
01:01:10,427 --> 01:01:13,667
Speaker 2: He was previously a Kine's assistant from twenty sixteen to

1144
01:01:13,747 --> 01:01:18,307
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and then four seasons as head coach before

1145
01:01:18,347 --> 01:01:20,987
Speaker 2: he joined the All Blacks. He joins a coaching team

1146
01:01:21,027 --> 01:01:24,107
Speaker 2: at the Hurricanes lead by head coach Clarke Laidlaw, along

1147
01:01:24,227 --> 01:01:28,427
Speaker 2: with his assistants Jamie McIntosh, Corey Jane Brad Cooper and

1148
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Speaker 2: Bryn Evans, and now Jason Holland as well. Head coach

1149
01:01:32,227 --> 01:01:35,507
Speaker 2: Clarke Laidlaw is with us. Great piece of business to

1150
01:01:35,587 --> 01:01:38,667
Speaker 2: get Jason Holland back into the camp. Clark, how did

1151
01:01:38,747 --> 01:01:39,747
Speaker 2: this all come about?

1152
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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's yeah, it's exciting news for us and certainly

1153
01:01:45,387 --> 01:01:49,867
Speaker 16: something we're really looking forward to to welcome and back

1154
01:01:49,907 --> 01:01:51,507
Speaker 16: in the club, as as we have done this week.

1155
01:01:51,547 --> 01:01:55,027
Speaker 16: And yeah, how it came about was Alfy and I

1156
01:01:55,187 --> 01:01:56,907
Speaker 16: have continually been in contact.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, reasons I started the job really.

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Speaker 16: You know, he was one of the first people I

1159
01:02:01,267 --> 01:02:04,947
Speaker 16: met when I came down to Wellington from the mount

1160
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Speaker 16: and obviously with his role with All Blacks, we've often

1161
01:02:10,227 --> 01:02:12,427
Speaker 16: had conversations and coffee and talked.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I just reached out to.

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Speaker 16: When he decided not to extend with All Blacks just

1164
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Speaker 16: for a yard really.

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Speaker 9: And shared the idea that you know, we were looking for.

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Speaker 16: You know that the squads went up to fifty players

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Speaker 16: with extended wider training groups. We've got two or three

1168
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Speaker 16: hundred twenties that are here at the minute, so you're.

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Speaker 9: At fifty three. So we were looking for a coach

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Speaker 9: to come in and support us in some capacity.

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Speaker 16: But obviously Arfury's previous relationship and connection here and you know,

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Speaker 16: his obvious expertise and experience then you know, that conversation

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01:02:47,507 --> 01:02:51,267
Speaker 16: developed into to a serious chart around could we you know,

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Speaker 16: could we make it work?

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Speaker 9: And what was his plans post All Blacks?

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Speaker 16: And yeah, I guess we've arrived at today where he's

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Speaker 16: been in two days this week helping coach.

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Speaker 9: So so exciting, it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: So what specific responsibilities do you say him having kind

1180
01:03:05,907 --> 01:03:08,147
Speaker 2: of diedted and across the Super Rugby season.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, working with Coops around the attacking game. You know,

1182
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Speaker 16: it's a big portfolio when it comes to all different

1183
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Speaker 16: types of attack and in different ways we now gain

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Speaker 16: possession having Britain you know, obviously is the All Black

1185
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Speaker 16: line out coach again between those three really building our

1186
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Speaker 16: attacking game, you know.

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Speaker 9: So we're walking through that now with with Coops and.

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Speaker 16: Brynn and Alfie and we genuinely have a real sort

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Speaker 16: of collaborative approach around of coaching here anyway and try

1190
01:03:37,787 --> 01:03:41,867
Speaker 16: and co coach different areas of the game. So but yeah,

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Speaker 16: in particular for him around the you know, the phase attack,

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01:03:44,627 --> 01:03:48,587
Speaker 16: counter attack, turnover attack, the areas that take a lot

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Speaker 16: of work for a lot of analysis. He can help

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01:03:50,747 --> 01:03:52,587
Speaker 16: us with that and then you know that frees us

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Speaker 16: all up to to share the workload across the squad.

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Speaker 2: This perhaps might be a question for him, but how

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Speaker 2: do you reckon he'll go coming back into an assistant

1198
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Speaker 2: role at the time he was head coach at previously.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, you're right, it's it's definitely a question

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01:04:09,747 --> 01:04:11,667
Speaker 16: he can answer better than me. But from what I've

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Speaker 16: seen the last couple of days and the conversations we had,

1202
01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:18,947
Speaker 16: and I think that was that was probably the clincher,

1203
01:04:19,147 --> 01:04:22,947
Speaker 16: was his excitement to come in here and assist and

1204
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Speaker 16: help both me and Coops and in our roles. You know,

1205
01:04:26,067 --> 01:04:28,027
Speaker 16: he was he was really excited and sort of passionate

1206
01:04:28,067 --> 01:04:31,827
Speaker 16: around that part of the role and his passion for

1207
01:04:32,107 --> 01:04:36,387
Speaker 16: making players better and picking defenses. Apart as obvious, So

1208
01:04:37,427 --> 01:04:41,787
Speaker 16: de'tually any any problems or issues with thought. You know,

1209
01:04:42,187 --> 01:04:44,947
Speaker 16: he's a there's no ego, you know, certainly from my

1210
01:04:45,107 --> 01:04:48,507
Speaker 16: end around him being here before, and and you know

1211
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Speaker 16: we don't see any of that between him and Coops.

1212
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Speaker 16: So yeah, I'm I'm all guns blazing on it. We

1213
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Speaker 16: We genuinely have loved having the men already this week fantastic.

1214
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Speaker 2: Were you surprised to left the old Blacks environment?

1215
01:05:03,827 --> 01:05:06,067
Speaker 16: To be honest, I haven't really thought about it, and

1216
01:05:06,147 --> 01:05:08,067
Speaker 16: I and ask them, you know, it's not for me

1217
01:05:08,187 --> 01:05:11,907
Speaker 16: to to worry too much around that. I'm sure we

1218
01:05:11,947 --> 01:05:14,147
Speaker 16: have a few coffees and beers through the season, you know,

1219
01:05:14,267 --> 01:05:17,347
Speaker 16: he might share around someone is thinking, but in a

1220
01:05:18,307 --> 01:05:20,707
Speaker 16: sort of short term for us, you know, haven't given

1221
01:05:20,707 --> 01:05:24,387
Speaker 16: it too much thought. And I just feel grateful and

1222
01:05:25,387 --> 01:05:27,147
Speaker 16: excited around the opportunity for him to come here.

1223
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Speaker 2: So you're in pre season, now, what what's the schedule

1224
01:05:30,587 --> 01:05:33,147
Speaker 2: between now when when you play your first game on

1225
01:05:33,267 --> 01:05:35,147
Speaker 2: the twentieth of February. What's the What are the next

1226
01:05:35,187 --> 01:05:36,627
Speaker 2: sort of six to white weeks look like for the

1227
01:05:36,787 --> 01:05:37,507
Speaker 2: for the Hurricanes.

1228
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Speaker 16: Yeah, we've got a full week next week. We finish

1229
01:05:39,987 --> 01:05:43,347
Speaker 16: up on the Saturday with the traditional sourt to peak.

1230
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Speaker 16: I'm sure the players are starting to look forward to. Yeah,

1231
01:05:48,267 --> 01:05:50,307
Speaker 16: so that's the next start. We have a breakthrough till

1232
01:05:50,347 --> 01:05:55,987
Speaker 16: the fifth where you know, remote training obviously for the players,

1233
01:05:56,107 --> 01:05:58,667
Speaker 16: and a lot of break for the staff over Christmas

1234
01:05:58,707 --> 01:06:00,347
Speaker 16: and New Year, and then as say, come back on

1235
01:06:00,387 --> 01:06:03,467
Speaker 16: the fifth and then yeah, but three weeks planned out

1236
01:06:03,467 --> 01:06:04,587
Speaker 16: and then the fourth week, as.

1237
01:06:04,507 --> 01:06:06,507
Speaker 9: You say, we play with the Blues up there, and

1238
01:06:07,907 --> 01:06:10,627
Speaker 9: in second preseason. The Chiefs out at Pariua.

1239
01:06:11,907 --> 01:06:15,587
Speaker 16: Is the preseason program, and I think with you know,

1240
01:06:15,627 --> 01:06:18,867
Speaker 16: we've got buy round one, which you know, I'm not

1241
01:06:18,947 --> 01:06:21,387
Speaker 16: sure anybody wants buy Round one, but it's allowing us

1242
01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:24,747
Speaker 16: to have a camp and also allowing us all Blacks

1243
01:06:24,747 --> 01:06:28,147
Speaker 16: an extra week to reintegrate into the squad. So so yeah,

1244
01:06:28,147 --> 01:06:30,947
Speaker 16: we've got a sort of solid plan through the camp

1245
01:06:30,987 --> 01:06:35,867
Speaker 16: week and then getting to Majana at home in round two.

1246
01:06:36,387 --> 01:06:38,507
Speaker 2: When do your front line O Blacks come back in?

1247
01:06:40,467 --> 01:06:42,627
Speaker 16: Yeah, the week of the week of the Blues game

1248
01:06:42,787 --> 01:06:45,747
Speaker 16: is the official date they've got an all black camp.

1249
01:06:46,467 --> 01:06:48,467
Speaker 16: I think it's I think it's maybe the nineteenth or

1250
01:06:48,507 --> 01:06:51,827
Speaker 16: twentieth of January. They've got the all black commercial window

1251
01:06:51,907 --> 01:06:55,387
Speaker 16: where you know they're in and out a bit with

1252
01:06:55,507 --> 01:07:01,067
Speaker 16: commitments to the commercial window, but alimlely that week we

1253
01:07:01,187 --> 01:07:03,587
Speaker 16: play the Blues that are in full time. So again

1254
01:07:03,627 --> 01:07:06,627
Speaker 16: we've met all the all Blacks, We've had a few

1255
01:07:06,667 --> 01:07:09,467
Speaker 16: and training in and around the facility, not with the team,

1256
01:07:09,587 --> 01:07:12,747
Speaker 16: but you know, doing their own things. So so yeah,

1257
01:07:12,787 --> 01:07:15,627
Speaker 16: we feel quite clear and planned around that integration. I

1258
01:07:15,627 --> 01:07:18,667
Speaker 16: think we've managed that a little bit better than maybe

1259
01:07:18,787 --> 01:07:21,307
Speaker 16: last year's offseason and the bodies are. You know, we

1260
01:07:21,387 --> 01:07:23,347
Speaker 16: had two of these surgeries coming at the back end

1261
01:07:24,587 --> 01:07:25,467
Speaker 16: of the All Blacks.

1262
01:07:26,267 --> 01:07:26,787
Speaker 9: You know, guys like.

1263
01:07:26,827 --> 01:07:29,307
Speaker 16: Tyrell have had surgeries but obviously had it way earlier.

1264
01:07:29,467 --> 01:07:33,387
Speaker 16: So we're hopeful all players will be ready fit healthy

1265
01:07:34,387 --> 01:07:35,787
Speaker 16: by round two against Moana.

1266
01:07:36,147 --> 01:07:39,187
Speaker 2: Is it still a learning process? Pre season? I don't know.

1267
01:07:39,347 --> 01:07:41,987
Speaker 2: Does it ever feel like you'll absolutely nail it and

1268
01:07:42,027 --> 01:07:43,987
Speaker 2: get it completely right. It just seems like such a

1269
01:07:44,347 --> 01:07:46,827
Speaker 2: hard thing to get right with Christmas in the middle

1270
01:07:46,867 --> 01:07:49,187
Speaker 2: of it. It's still bloody hot, all that sort of stuff,

1271
01:07:49,427 --> 01:07:51,547
Speaker 2: and All Black's coming back a bit lighter. Is it

1272
01:07:51,667 --> 01:07:53,307
Speaker 2: still a sort of a learning process?

1273
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Speaker 16: I think the thing that always changes made is the context.

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01:07:57,827 --> 01:07:59,627
Speaker 16: You know, it's the first year we hardly had any

1275
01:07:59,627 --> 01:08:02,067
Speaker 16: All Blocks. Everybody's here from day one, apart from two

1276
01:08:02,147 --> 01:08:06,507
Speaker 16: players were ripped in and started the season really Welllast

1277
01:08:06,587 --> 01:08:08,907
Speaker 16: year we had loads of surgeries, guys injured out with

1278
01:08:08,907 --> 01:08:13,587
Speaker 16: All Black fifteen All Blacks, so that context was completely different.

1279
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Speaker 9: So between the two A certainly fuel this year as

1280
01:08:17,507 --> 01:08:17,987
Speaker 9: a staff.

1281
01:08:18,067 --> 01:08:20,787
Speaker 16: We've been more prepared and ready to adapt and change

1282
01:08:20,907 --> 01:08:21,867
Speaker 16: based on the context.

1283
01:08:22,947 --> 01:08:25,227
Speaker 9: So I've really enjoyed the work. The staff.

1284
01:08:25,267 --> 01:08:28,467
Speaker 16: I've done the thought of put into what content we

1285
01:08:28,587 --> 01:08:31,627
Speaker 16: used pre Christmas for a rugby We're trying to get

1286
01:08:31,627 --> 01:08:36,067
Speaker 16: a little bit more organized from our structure perspective that'll

1287
01:08:36,107 --> 01:08:40,587
Speaker 16: allow us to accelerate different areas after Christmas. So yeah,

1288
01:08:40,627 --> 01:08:42,787
Speaker 16: the context is always different, mate, But you know, third

1289
01:08:42,907 --> 01:08:46,427
Speaker 16: year in, I certainly feel the cohesiveness of the coaching

1290
01:08:46,507 --> 01:08:49,947
Speaker 16: group and s and season physios have allowed us to

1291
01:08:50,027 --> 01:08:53,587
Speaker 16: be prepared for the different types of scenarios and context.

1292
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Speaker 16: And I feel like we're ahead of the wave a

1293
01:08:56,107 --> 01:08:58,067
Speaker 16: wee bit around where we wore maybe last year.

1294
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Speaker 2: In particular, good man Clark, well, good pace of business,

1295
01:09:00,867 --> 01:09:03,427
Speaker 2: getting Jason Holland back into the camp. Look forward to

1296
01:09:03,907 --> 01:09:05,827
Speaker 2: catching up in that twenty twenty six as the season

1297
01:09:05,907 --> 01:09:09,787
Speaker 2: DROs class sounds good, mate, See then Clark, thanks indeed.

1298
01:09:09,827 --> 01:09:13,587
Speaker 2: Clark laid Law coach of the Hurricanes, head coach joined

1299
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Speaker 2: by Jason Holland, former head coach of the team, former

1300
01:09:18,987 --> 01:09:24,627
Speaker 2: assistant coach of the All Blacks. It's yeah, everything you've

1301
01:09:25,107 --> 01:09:27,867
Speaker 2: like I've had a I live in Hurricanes territory and

1302
01:09:28,307 --> 01:09:31,547
Speaker 2: everything I've seen from Clark laid Law is completely collaborative.

1303
01:09:32,147 --> 01:09:34,947
Speaker 2: He he, you know what he said there, he will

1304
01:09:34,987 --> 01:09:38,987
Speaker 2: be completely unthreatened by Jason Holland coming in. Some head

1305
01:09:39,027 --> 01:09:41,147
Speaker 2: coaches might have been a jeeps, this guy want my

1306
01:09:41,227 --> 01:09:43,787
Speaker 2: job he was he had this job, he might be,

1307
01:09:43,947 --> 01:09:46,307
Speaker 2: you know, angling to get the head coaching job back.

1308
01:09:46,427 --> 01:09:48,987
Speaker 2: Clark laid Law won't feel that at all. It's just

1309
01:09:49,347 --> 01:09:51,907
Speaker 2: I reckon he'll be stoked to have Jason Holland back.

1310
01:09:51,987 --> 01:09:54,387
Speaker 2: The two of them clearly get on very well, have

1311
01:09:54,507 --> 01:09:57,187
Speaker 2: stayed in touch in the time since Jason Holland's gone

1312
01:09:57,227 --> 01:09:59,587
Speaker 2: into the All Blacks and Clark's been the Hurricanes coach,

1313
01:09:59,987 --> 01:10:02,547
Speaker 2: and now they get to work together. Jason Holland loves

1314
01:10:02,587 --> 01:10:06,147
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes and loves the game of rugby. I think

1315
01:10:06,187 --> 01:10:08,947
Speaker 2: the this is brilliant for him, and it also again

1316
01:10:09,587 --> 01:10:13,187
Speaker 2: raises questions about what on earth happened inside that All

1317
01:10:13,267 --> 01:10:16,987
Speaker 2: Blacks coaching environment for a guy who loves the game

1318
01:10:17,027 --> 01:10:20,067
Speaker 2: of rugby as much as Jason Holland does. Here's a

1319
01:10:20,107 --> 01:10:22,227
Speaker 2: guy who when he was Hurricanes's head coach, if the

1320
01:10:22,267 --> 01:10:23,947
Speaker 2: Hurricanes didn't have a game, he'd go and watch a

1321
01:10:24,427 --> 01:10:24,907
Speaker 2: club game.

1322
01:10:25,227 --> 01:10:25,907
Speaker 5: He drive up to.

1323
01:10:25,907 --> 01:10:28,787
Speaker 2: Palmerston North to his old stamping ground up there and

1324
01:10:28,867 --> 01:10:32,747
Speaker 2: watch a club game. He absolutely loves the game of

1325
01:10:32,867 --> 01:10:36,187
Speaker 2: rugby and coaching the game of rugby and being involved

1326
01:10:36,227 --> 01:10:38,747
Speaker 2: in the game of rugby. And when you reach the

1327
01:10:38,907 --> 01:10:42,507
Speaker 2: very top of coaching in New Zealand, which is being

1328
01:10:42,587 --> 01:10:45,867
Speaker 2: part of the All Blacks coaching set up, and then

1329
01:10:45,947 --> 01:10:51,427
Speaker 2: you voluntarily elect to leave that environment, that leaves a

1330
01:10:51,507 --> 01:10:54,787
Speaker 2: lot of unanswered questions. I was really interested to read

1331
01:10:54,827 --> 01:10:57,827
Speaker 2: Liam Napier in the New Zealand Herald today under the

1332
01:10:57,907 --> 01:11:03,587
Speaker 2: headline pressure builds on All Blacks coaches as internal frustrations emerge.

1333
01:11:04,267 --> 01:11:05,507
Speaker 2: I would urge you to have a read of that

1334
01:11:05,627 --> 01:11:10,427
Speaker 2: if you're a rugby fan. First couple of paragraphs from

1335
01:11:10,547 --> 01:11:13,507
Speaker 2: Leam New Zealand Rugby is court at a delicate crossroads

1336
01:11:14,107 --> 01:11:17,267
Speaker 2: as it digs into the shaky state of the All Blacks.

1337
01:11:17,307 --> 01:11:20,187
Speaker 2: No one expected the All Blacks to be here, attempting

1338
01:11:20,307 --> 01:11:25,627
Speaker 2: to address an unhappy camp and amend underwhelming performances midway

1339
01:11:25,707 --> 01:11:30,067
Speaker 2: through this four year cycle. It's a really telling piece

1340
01:11:30,507 --> 01:11:34,387
Speaker 2: from Liam Napier, who probably more than most understands the

1341
01:11:34,587 --> 01:11:37,027
Speaker 2: inner workings of the All Blacks and the All Blacks

1342
01:11:37,307 --> 01:11:41,787
Speaker 2: coaching setup. But for Jason Holland, he's back in an

1343
01:11:41,907 --> 01:11:44,947
Speaker 2: environment which he loved before and I'm sure we'll love again.

1344
01:11:45,627 --> 01:11:48,947
Speaker 2: And I think all Hurricanes fans almost unequivocally have welcomed

1345
01:11:48,987 --> 01:11:52,027
Speaker 2: him back with open arms. Twenty to two. Let's take

1346
01:11:52,067 --> 01:11:54,227
Speaker 2: a break, come back and get you across the Tasman

1347
01:11:54,267 --> 01:11:56,027
Speaker 2: to Adam Peacock with I think he might be in

1348
01:11:56,107 --> 01:11:58,907
Speaker 2: a Hong Kong of all places. Have no idea why,

1349
01:11:59,027 --> 01:12:02,347
Speaker 2: but Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent with us on the show.

1350
01:12:02,187 --> 01:12:07,227
Speaker 1: After this, don't get caught offside eight Weekend Sports with

1351
01:12:07,467 --> 01:12:11,547
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Guvnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

1352
01:12:11,587 --> 01:12:12,707
Speaker 1: builder News Talk.

1353
01:12:12,587 --> 01:12:16,467
Speaker 2: The B one forty three Saturday afternoons means a chat

1354
01:12:16,587 --> 01:12:19,427
Speaker 2: to our Australian correspondent, Adam Peacock, who joins us now

1355
01:12:19,467 --> 01:12:21,507
Speaker 2: but not from Australia. You've taken the short nine hour

1356
01:12:21,587 --> 01:12:23,667
Speaker 2: flight up to Hong Kong. What's going on up there?

1357
01:12:25,547 --> 01:12:28,507
Speaker 14: We'll got the international races tomorrow. Piney up here.

1358
01:12:28,587 --> 01:12:31,107
Speaker 17: So I've actually I had a bit of a night

1359
01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:32,707
Speaker 17: as you do in Hong Kong, and then got up

1360
01:12:32,747 --> 01:12:34,707
Speaker 17: early and I'm standing in the middle of Happy Valley

1361
01:12:35,347 --> 01:12:38,747
Speaker 17: Racetrack right now, just about to sweat out some of

1362
01:12:38,867 --> 01:12:43,707
Speaker 17: last night since yeah, just on a weekend junket, basically wonderful.

1363
01:12:43,747 --> 01:12:46,027
Speaker 2: How was the weather, how was the temperature? And how

1364
01:12:46,067 --> 01:12:47,547
Speaker 2: hot does it get in Hong Kong at this time

1365
01:12:47,587 --> 01:12:47,907
Speaker 2: of the year.

1366
01:12:49,627 --> 01:12:52,707
Speaker 14: It's I think it's winter. It doesn't feel like it.

1367
01:12:52,787 --> 01:12:56,907
Speaker 17: It's probably twenty degrees right now, so it's t shirt weather.

1368
01:12:56,987 --> 01:12:59,587
Speaker 17: And it's a really cool setup. Actually a Happy Valley.

1369
01:12:59,707 --> 01:13:01,667
Speaker 17: It's one of their two racetracks they got shots in

1370
01:13:01,707 --> 01:13:04,187
Speaker 17: where they have the massive races which they will tomorrow,

1371
01:13:04,227 --> 01:13:07,307
Speaker 17: the four group ones, including the Key. We've read Kaye

1372
01:13:07,347 --> 01:13:10,227
Speaker 17: in Rising the best frinder in the world. But Happy

1373
01:13:10,307 --> 01:13:14,427
Speaker 17: Valley is like near the business district. They use every

1374
01:13:14,587 --> 01:13:17,467
Speaker 17: inch of space about it. So just on the inside

1375
01:13:17,507 --> 01:13:19,547
Speaker 17: of the racetrack is a running track that all the

1376
01:13:19,627 --> 01:13:21,987
Speaker 17: residents use. And on the inside of that I can

1377
01:13:22,147 --> 01:13:26,787
Speaker 17: see right now about five football pitches and a hockey

1378
01:13:26,867 --> 01:13:31,147
Speaker 17: pitch and yeah, this, that and elis used absolutely every

1379
01:13:31,227 --> 01:13:35,027
Speaker 17: conceivable inch of real estate to make it good for

1380
01:13:35,107 --> 01:13:35,867
Speaker 17: people who live here.

1381
01:13:36,387 --> 01:13:38,627
Speaker 2: Outstanding. All right, Well, while we've got you, I want

1382
01:13:38,627 --> 01:13:41,507
Speaker 2: to talk about what's happening back in Australia, in particular

1383
01:13:41,587 --> 01:13:44,147
Speaker 2: around the ashes by the Sounds of it. Pack Cummins

1384
01:13:44,387 --> 01:13:48,147
Speaker 2: will be good for the third Test against England and Adelaide,

1385
01:13:48,187 --> 01:13:50,827
Speaker 2: having missed the first two with injury. As if Australia

1386
01:13:50,867 --> 01:13:52,867
Speaker 2: needed a boost, they've done pretty well in these first two.

1387
01:13:52,947 --> 01:13:58,027
Speaker 2: But I mean Pack Cummins comes back in surely, Yeah.

1388
01:13:57,947 --> 01:14:01,027
Speaker 14: Yeah, he will, and Nathan Lyon comes back in as well.

1389
01:14:01,107 --> 01:14:04,907
Speaker 17: That George Bailey, the Chief selector, last week said in

1390
01:14:04,987 --> 01:14:08,467
Speaker 17: Brisbane about that controversial decision, well he goes, Nathan will

1391
01:14:08,547 --> 01:14:12,507
Speaker 17: play in Adelaide, so two will drop out. The common

1392
01:14:12,587 --> 01:14:15,107
Speaker 17: thought is that Michael Nica drops out, pat Common drops

1393
01:14:15,147 --> 01:14:17,787
Speaker 17: out and then that's as you were with Bowlin and Sark.

1394
01:14:17,907 --> 01:14:21,067
Speaker 17: So yeah, not ideal news for England who are trying

1395
01:14:21,107 --> 01:14:23,627
Speaker 17: to get back into it. I've got a suspicion they'll

1396
01:14:23,667 --> 01:14:26,307
Speaker 17: be better England because I think Adelaide will suit them

1397
01:14:26,707 --> 01:14:30,827
Speaker 17: a bit better. But there is the big unanswerable is

1398
01:14:31,427 --> 01:14:34,907
Speaker 17: their mindset absolutely shocked, shot shot the bits, given what

1399
01:14:35,027 --> 01:14:39,347
Speaker 17: happened in Brisbane, and they have just been absolutely copying

1400
01:14:39,387 --> 01:14:42,267
Speaker 17: it over here on every level about everything they're doing.

1401
01:14:42,427 --> 01:14:44,987
Speaker 17: So yeah, interesting to see if they can bounce back.

1402
01:14:45,347 --> 01:14:45,467
Speaker 18: Well.

1403
01:14:45,507 --> 01:14:47,467
Speaker 2: One of the things they've been doing to prepare for

1404
01:14:47,587 --> 01:14:49,667
Speaker 2: the third teast and Adelaide is rather than getting the

1405
01:14:49,747 --> 01:14:53,707
Speaker 2: nets and I put on some comprehensive practice. They've done

1406
01:14:53,747 --> 01:14:55,227
Speaker 2: what most keywis do. Will we go over there and

1407
01:14:55,547 --> 01:14:56,467
Speaker 2: have gone to nutsa.

1408
01:14:57,907 --> 01:15:01,187
Speaker 14: Yeah, they put that in the itinerary six months ago.

1409
01:15:01,307 --> 01:15:03,227
Speaker 17: And despite the fact that they find themselves in the

1410
01:15:03,267 --> 01:15:06,827
Speaker 17: position they in that they're in, that they to the same.

1411
01:15:06,907 --> 01:15:09,227
Speaker 14: Look, I get it. I actually don't mind it.

1412
01:15:09,387 --> 01:15:11,147
Speaker 17: Like it's not like they've gone up there for six

1413
01:15:11,227 --> 01:15:13,147
Speaker 17: days and they're just on the on the piss the

1414
01:15:13,187 --> 01:15:13,547
Speaker 17: whole time.

1415
01:15:13,587 --> 01:15:16,347
Speaker 14: They're actually just relaxing for a couple and then they'll

1416
01:15:16,347 --> 01:15:17,147
Speaker 14: get down to Adelaid.

1417
01:15:17,147 --> 01:15:19,307
Speaker 17: Because if they went straight to Adelaide and then they're

1418
01:15:19,347 --> 01:15:21,827
Speaker 17: just having net session after net session, they're not playing

1419
01:15:21,867 --> 01:15:25,467
Speaker 17: a match, which probably might in retrospect look a bit odd,

1420
01:15:25,787 --> 01:15:27,107
Speaker 17: but they're not playing a match there.

1421
01:15:27,227 --> 01:15:30,507
Speaker 14: They're just you know, hanging around. The press is there.

1422
01:15:31,187 --> 01:15:33,747
Speaker 14: You know, the environment's not exactly an open one.

1423
01:15:33,907 --> 01:15:36,267
Speaker 17: So yeah, I get that they've gone there, but they

1424
01:15:36,307 --> 01:15:38,707
Speaker 17: are absolutely copying about everything they're doing. And the main

1425
01:15:38,827 --> 01:15:42,467
Speaker 17: theme actually is the is this whole Brendan McCullum style

1426
01:15:42,547 --> 01:15:43,227
Speaker 17: playing a fraud?

1427
01:15:43,667 --> 01:15:45,587
Speaker 14: That's that's the big thing.

1428
01:15:45,667 --> 01:15:47,987
Speaker 17: That's come out of the first two tests and these

1429
01:15:48,027 --> 01:15:50,347
Speaker 17: players have to aim up to make sure that those

1430
01:15:50,347 --> 01:15:51,547
Speaker 17: stories go away in Adelaide.

1431
01:15:52,027 --> 01:15:54,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you think that they they will or

1432
01:15:54,947 --> 01:15:57,227
Speaker 2: does it feel to you as Brendan McCallum is all

1433
01:15:57,307 --> 01:16:01,147
Speaker 2: in on this approach and even though it hasn't worked

1434
01:16:01,187 --> 01:16:04,107
Speaker 2: in the first two tests, that he'll be encouraging he

1435
01:16:04,227 --> 01:16:06,987
Speaker 2: and Ben Stokes will be encouraging a team to play

1436
01:16:07,027 --> 01:16:08,707
Speaker 2: the same way or will there be a bit of

1437
01:16:08,747 --> 01:16:09,787
Speaker 2: pragmatism about this?

1438
01:16:11,747 --> 01:16:15,907
Speaker 17: Now everything we've learned is that he'll Brendan McCullum ll

1439
01:16:15,947 --> 01:16:17,987
Speaker 17: try and get the players into a headspace that allows

1440
01:16:18,027 --> 01:16:20,667
Speaker 17: them to play that's the top of freedom that they

1441
01:16:20,707 --> 01:16:22,587
Speaker 17: want to which is obviously what worked for him as

1442
01:16:22,587 --> 01:16:25,347
Speaker 17: an international cricketer. So he's brought that to the table

1443
01:16:25,387 --> 01:16:27,267
Speaker 17: for England and for the most part it has worked.

1444
01:16:27,307 --> 01:16:30,467
Speaker 17: It's just in the last twenty four twelve months actually

1445
01:16:30,507 --> 01:16:32,907
Speaker 17: that there's been some situations where it hasn't followed through,

1446
01:16:33,067 --> 01:16:36,667
Speaker 17: Like they probably should have won that series against India didn't.

1447
01:16:37,707 --> 01:16:39,787
Speaker 17: Now they find themselves too nil down in one of

1448
01:16:39,827 --> 01:16:44,267
Speaker 17: the most type dashes series of all time. Yeah, the

1449
01:16:44,707 --> 01:16:48,907
Speaker 17: methods have been highly questioned so I don't think though,

1450
01:16:48,987 --> 01:16:50,987
Speaker 17: that he's the type of guy to turn around and go, well,

1451
01:16:50,987 --> 01:16:53,707
Speaker 17: I'm being criticized by everyone, maybe I should listen to everyone.

1452
01:16:53,867 --> 01:16:54,907
Speaker 14: I think he's the top of.

1453
01:16:54,947 --> 01:16:57,547
Speaker 17: Guy to go now I know I'm right. We'll continue

1454
01:16:57,667 --> 01:16:59,507
Speaker 17: doing what we're doing. So fair play to him if

1455
01:16:59,547 --> 01:17:02,227
Speaker 17: that's the case. He's a man of conviction. But I'm

1456
01:17:02,267 --> 01:17:04,547
Speaker 17: not sure it's going to work out that way if

1457
01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:06,027
Speaker 17: they need to win three tests in a row.

1458
01:17:06,747 --> 01:17:11,987
Speaker 2: Adelaide SCG despite all of the different well despite their

1459
01:17:12,067 --> 01:17:14,107
Speaker 2: approach to it and the fact that it hasn't worked

1460
01:17:14,107 --> 01:17:16,547
Speaker 2: in the first two test matches. Is there also just

1461
01:17:17,427 --> 01:17:20,707
Speaker 2: a cold hard effect here that Australia are just a

1462
01:17:20,747 --> 01:17:22,507
Speaker 2: better test team than England at the moment.

1463
01:17:24,787 --> 01:17:30,067
Speaker 17: Yes, but the yeah, like there's that thought, like everyone

1464
01:17:30,947 --> 01:17:32,827
Speaker 17: seems a bit surprised, how with Alex Cary is at

1465
01:17:32,827 --> 01:17:34,827
Speaker 17: wiki keeping and Mitchell Stark is at bowling, and how

1466
01:17:34,907 --> 01:17:36,907
Speaker 17: Travis ed can be so damaging with the bat. Yeah,

1467
01:17:37,387 --> 01:17:40,187
Speaker 17: there's that, But it's more to the point that it

1468
01:17:40,307 --> 01:17:43,027
Speaker 17: looks like England aren't actually giving themselves a proper chance

1469
01:17:43,267 --> 01:17:46,307
Speaker 17: to compete. They're playing stupid shots when they shouldn't be

1470
01:17:46,827 --> 01:17:48,787
Speaker 17: joff for archers coming in and bowling at one hundred

1471
01:17:48,787 --> 01:17:50,347
Speaker 17: and thirty five k's now when it could bowl one

1472
01:17:50,427 --> 01:17:52,387
Speaker 17: hundred and fifty k's an hour, as we saw with

1473
01:17:52,467 --> 01:17:54,987
Speaker 17: that last exchange with Steve Smith at the Gabba.

1474
01:17:55,067 --> 01:17:56,707
Speaker 14: But the previous spells.

1475
01:17:56,387 --> 01:17:59,987
Speaker 17: Weren't at that speed and that's what ignited the whole

1476
01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:03,747
Speaker 17: chat with Steve Smith saying bowlwin there's nothing on the

1477
01:18:03,827 --> 01:18:04,707
Speaker 17: lion Champ bowl quick.

1478
01:18:04,707 --> 01:18:05,947
Speaker 14: When there's nothing on the line chair you.

1479
01:18:05,987 --> 01:18:09,267
Speaker 17: Jamped in, it's great, But yeah, it's more to that

1480
01:18:09,427 --> 01:18:12,627
Speaker 17: and that's the frustration, and that's the key storyline that yeah,

1481
01:18:12,667 --> 01:18:14,347
Speaker 17: Australia are good and they've been rock solid.

1482
01:18:14,387 --> 01:18:16,827
Speaker 14: They've been good when they had to be good, but.

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Speaker 17: The way that the English just frown wickets away at

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Speaker 17: crucial times has really curtailed any sense of a proper

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Speaker 17: series so far.

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Speaker 2: I've got decent coffee for you over there, have they? Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I have one yesday, so I'll probably go back.

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Speaker 17: I don't want to risk things. I'll just go Yep.

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Speaker 14: I did a good coffee, so I'm going to go

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Speaker 14: back there for breakfast. Affter this so yeah, good places.

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Speaker 14: It's fun. Actually we're out in a boat all day

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Speaker 14: drinking alcohol and son what could go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Well, I certainly hope that we get the chance to

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01:18:49,347 --> 01:18:51,187
Speaker 2: chat to you next weekend. If that's the case, good

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01:18:51,187 --> 01:18:53,347
Speaker 2: to chat mate and enjoy your time up in Hong

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Speaker 2: Kong and we'll hopefully catch up next week.

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Speaker 14: Yeah. If I don't answer, you know what's happened.

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Speaker 9: All good?

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks mate, tak it easy. Adam Peacock, Australian correspondent,

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Speaker 2: come to your life from Hong Kong today where it

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Speaker 2: sounds like he's enjoying all of that the place has

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01:19:07,947 --> 01:19:10,067
Speaker 2: to offer. He joins us around about this time every

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01:19:10,267 --> 01:19:14,827
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with the latest from sport across the Tasman.

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Speaker 2: Just on the Ashes, Jonathan Agnew our guests tomorrow. I know,

1505
01:19:19,467 --> 01:19:21,947
Speaker 2: if you like me as a cricket fan, you'll be

1506
01:19:21,987 --> 01:19:24,947
Speaker 2: watching the Ashes with as much interest as you are.

1507
01:19:25,147 --> 01:19:28,147
Speaker 2: The black Caps West Indies third Test and Adelai, I

1508
01:19:28,187 --> 01:19:31,307
Speaker 2: think that's Thursday. I think Thursday's the Thursdays at Wednesday Thursday.

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01:19:31,507 --> 01:19:34,907
Speaker 2: It's then the week ahead anyway, and I know a

1510
01:19:34,947 --> 01:19:37,947
Speaker 2: lot of you will have watched the first two tests.

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01:19:38,107 --> 01:19:40,267
Speaker 2: I'm very very keen to get your thoughts on the Ashes.

1512
01:19:40,627 --> 01:19:43,787
Speaker 2: Cricket fans so we'll do that tomorrow Jonathan Agnew after

1513
01:19:43,867 --> 01:19:48,147
Speaker 2: Midday the former fast bowler, BBC commentator and one of

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Speaker 2: the most respected voices in the game globally, straight after

1515
01:19:52,347 --> 01:19:54,467
Speaker 2: the Midday News tomorrow. Then we'll talk some ashes cricket

1516
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Speaker 2: here on Weekend Sport nine Away from two News Talks eb.

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Speaker 1: Let's go from the trag fields and the court on

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Speaker 1: your home sort Weekend Sports were Jason Vine Talks.

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Speaker 2: In B News Talks in B and Weekend Sport. Keewis

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01:20:09,987 --> 01:20:12,187
Speaker 2: Rithley that Hayden Wild has rounded out his T one

1521
01:20:12,267 --> 01:20:16,427
Speaker 2: hundred season in perfect style, another emphatic victory in the

1522
01:20:16,467 --> 01:20:19,187
Speaker 2: Grand Final and cut up to claim the overall title,

1523
01:20:19,507 --> 01:20:23,787
Speaker 2: remarkably a first world title for Hayden Wild after several

1524
01:20:23,867 --> 01:20:24,427
Speaker 2: near misses.

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Speaker 4: Hayden Wild T one hundred World Champion, how does that feel?

1526
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Speaker 13: And it's pretty spiritual from starting in Singapore and then

1527
01:20:32,947 --> 01:20:34,707
Speaker 13: being a hospital for a bit and then coming back

1528
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Speaker 13: and yeah, winning a few races and finishing here and guitar.

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Speaker 13: It's been a long season, but it's yeah, it's nice

1530
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Speaker 13: to finish up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you when you reflect on the season

1532
01:20:42,987 --> 01:20:45,667
Speaker 4: you've had with that with that injury or crushity sustained

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Speaker 4: in Japan. Can you process what you've achieved this year?

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Speaker 13: That's pretty hard to Hey, like, yeah, you kind of

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01:20:52,867 --> 01:20:55,507
Speaker 13: forget sometimes of the process you went through when you

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01:20:55,827 --> 01:20:57,307
Speaker 13: you know, when you come back and have some good

1537
01:20:57,387 --> 01:20:59,827
Speaker 13: success and you're just going to kind of think about that.

1538
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Speaker 13: And United came into this race with just an open

1539
01:21:03,587 --> 01:21:05,467
Speaker 13: open eyes and I was like, hey, I made it

1540
01:21:05,547 --> 01:21:08,347
Speaker 13: back to the to racing fit and healthy, and I

1541
01:21:08,427 --> 01:21:11,107
Speaker 13: think that's more of a title I'll take take to

1542
01:21:11,187 --> 01:21:14,227
Speaker 13: the grave then. Yeah, also the obviously the two one

1543
01:21:14,267 --> 01:21:16,867
Speaker 13: hundred series, but you're really happy of just how everything's

1544
01:21:16,907 --> 01:21:17,387
Speaker 13: gone as year.

1545
01:21:17,947 --> 01:21:20,547
Speaker 4: Do you feel pressure standing here? You look the most

1546
01:21:20,627 --> 01:21:24,107
Speaker 4: calm measured man in Qatar? Do you did you feel

1547
01:21:24,107 --> 01:21:25,467
Speaker 4: any pressure coming into today?

1548
01:21:27,067 --> 01:21:29,227
Speaker 13: It's hard to know because, like I just you just

1549
01:21:29,347 --> 01:21:31,227
Speaker 13: prepare yourself so much and I love the pressure and

1550
01:21:31,267 --> 01:21:34,707
Speaker 13: I love being hunted, and uh yeah, just just kind

1551
01:21:34,707 --> 01:21:36,387
Speaker 13: of had to come in and with a smile on

1552
01:21:36,427 --> 01:21:39,347
Speaker 13: my face. And obviously you know, pressure is good pressure,

1553
01:21:39,347 --> 01:21:41,907
Speaker 13: of course, but I also love having it as well.

1554
01:21:41,827 --> 01:21:43,787
Speaker 5: And it really fires me up. And to be the

1555
01:21:43,827 --> 01:21:44,747
Speaker 5: guy getting.

1556
01:21:44,587 --> 01:21:46,867
Speaker 13: Having a tiger on his back and having the ability

1557
01:21:46,907 --> 01:21:48,667
Speaker 13: to control the race as well, So it's it's a

1558
01:21:48,707 --> 01:21:52,267
Speaker 13: pretty like, yeah, it's a nice place to be for sure.

1559
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Speaker 4: Take us through then a bit by bit. I want

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01:21:54,507 --> 01:21:56,107
Speaker 4: to start with the swim. It seems like your swim

1561
01:21:56,187 --> 01:21:58,307
Speaker 4: is getting back to a place that that perhaps it

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01:21:58,467 --> 01:21:59,387
Speaker 4: was before your accident.

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Speaker 5: Is that fair? Yeah, it was, it was.

1564
01:22:01,307 --> 01:22:04,347
Speaker 13: It was a good swim. We're more or less we're

1565
01:22:04,347 --> 01:22:05,547
Speaker 13: more or less close to the group, and I was

1566
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Speaker 13: really happy with that. You know, thirty seconds coming on

1567
01:22:07,947 --> 01:22:10,987
Speaker 13: to T two and you don't have a swimskin.

1568
01:22:10,627 --> 01:22:12,067
Speaker 5: Stuff to worry about that, which is nice.

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01:22:12,107 --> 01:22:14,507
Speaker 13: So yeah, I only took me a good few k

1570
01:22:14,627 --> 01:22:17,067
Speaker 13: to get to the bike, but I know Rico was

1571
01:22:17,107 --> 01:22:19,027
Speaker 13: behind me, which was a good thing because we know

1572
01:22:19,107 --> 01:22:21,227
Speaker 13: he was going to come through and my teeth was.

1573
01:22:21,227 --> 01:22:23,187
Speaker 5: Going to be strong as well. And yeah, we just

1574
01:22:23,267 --> 01:22:23,867
Speaker 5: kind of went off.

1575
01:22:23,787 --> 01:22:26,987
Speaker 13: The front and while that bike was hard, like yeah,

1576
01:22:27,187 --> 01:22:28,587
Speaker 13: it was just on and off, on and off, and

1577
01:22:29,147 --> 01:22:31,547
Speaker 13: got onto the run with obviously a nice gap with

1578
01:22:32,587 --> 01:22:34,627
Speaker 13: the key runners of the competition and look back and

1579
01:22:34,947 --> 01:22:35,827
Speaker 13: look like Rica.

1580
01:22:35,667 --> 01:22:37,027
Speaker 5: Was having a good day out there on the run

1581
01:22:37,067 --> 01:22:37,227
Speaker 5: and I.

1582
01:22:37,267 --> 01:22:38,747
Speaker 13: Was like, I got to keep my wit side about me,

1583
01:22:38,827 --> 01:22:41,067
Speaker 13: and obviously Morgan was having a stormer in the first

1584
01:22:41,147 --> 01:22:42,787
Speaker 13: fifteen k and was able to hold on.

1585
01:22:43,067 --> 01:22:46,187
Speaker 2: That is Hayden Wild claiming the overall T one hundred

1586
01:22:46,667 --> 01:22:49,347
Speaker 2: title this morning and cut up new stixt to two

1587
01:22:49,547 --> 01:22:50,747
Speaker 2: and then some tennis for you.

1588
01:22:52,307 --> 01:22:55,187
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1589
01:22:55,347 --> 01:22:59,027
Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on Windre and Sport

1590
01:22:59,147 --> 01:23:05,507
Speaker 1: with Jason Vain on your Home of sport Us Talks two.

1591
01:23:05,587 --> 01:23:08,027
Speaker 2: I was seven. You heard that story in the news

1592
01:23:08,467 --> 01:23:11,187
Speaker 2: about the World Cup tickets, the FIFA World Cup tickets

1593
01:23:11,867 --> 01:23:17,467
Speaker 2: and the extortionate prices that are being charged for some

1594
01:23:17,587 --> 01:23:20,507
Speaker 2: of these matches. Now, I know a lot of football

1595
01:23:20,587 --> 01:23:24,787
Speaker 2: fans here are considering heading off to the World Cup

1596
01:23:24,867 --> 01:23:27,027
Speaker 2: next year to follow the All Whites, given the fact

1597
01:23:27,027 --> 01:23:30,627
Speaker 2: that we know they're in LA and Vancouver for their

1598
01:23:30,667 --> 01:23:33,467
Speaker 2: three group matches, direct flights and that sort of thing.

1599
01:23:33,547 --> 01:23:36,387
Speaker 2: So what's the situation with tickets and things like that?

1600
01:23:36,667 --> 01:23:39,827
Speaker 2: Around about this time tomorrow we will be able to

1601
01:23:39,907 --> 01:23:43,787
Speaker 2: tell you We're going to be joined in studio at

1602
01:23:43,827 --> 01:23:47,387
Speaker 2: around about this time tomorrow by Matt Fijos, founder of

1603
01:23:47,827 --> 01:23:51,707
Speaker 2: Flying Kiweed, to the official All White Supporters group on

1604
01:23:53,267 --> 01:23:56,267
Speaker 2: what the advice is for following the all whites at

1605
01:23:56,307 --> 01:23:58,547
Speaker 2: the World Cup next year. So twenty four hours from now,

1606
01:23:58,947 --> 01:24:04,147
Speaker 2: you're about to get all that information on text. Jason,

1607
01:24:04,187 --> 01:24:06,667
Speaker 2: I heard you talk about people sitting in park to

1608
01:24:06,707 --> 01:24:10,227
Speaker 2: listen to the show. Great idea, but please remind the

1609
01:24:10,347 --> 01:24:14,627
Speaker 2: parked car listeners to turn their engine on periodically. Don't

1610
01:24:14,627 --> 01:24:16,587
Speaker 2: do what I did last weekend and flatten the battery.

1611
01:24:16,867 --> 01:24:17,867
Speaker 2: I felt really stupid.

1612
01:24:18,547 --> 01:24:18,747
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1613
01:24:19,187 --> 01:24:20,947
Speaker 2: I mentioned that if you are out and about, you know,

1614
01:24:21,347 --> 01:24:25,307
Speaker 2: in Christmas shopping mode, and somebody else's I guess you know,

1615
01:24:25,547 --> 01:24:29,267
Speaker 2: driving the Christmas shopping as such, and you don't really

1616
01:24:29,347 --> 01:24:33,667
Speaker 2: have a lot to contribute, then look, the invitation is

1617
01:24:33,707 --> 01:24:34,907
Speaker 2: there for you to sit in the car and listen

1618
01:24:34,947 --> 01:24:39,187
Speaker 2: to the show. You might find it, you know, more

1619
01:24:39,307 --> 01:24:42,827
Speaker 2: enjoyable than trudging through a shopping mall. I don't know. Look,

1620
01:24:42,867 --> 01:24:43,947
Speaker 2: if you like shopping, go for it.

1621
01:24:44,187 --> 01:24:44,347
Speaker 14: You know.

1622
01:24:44,987 --> 01:24:46,947
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you how to spend your

1623
01:24:46,947 --> 01:24:48,987
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. But if you want to sit in your

1624
01:24:49,067 --> 01:24:52,427
Speaker 2: car and listen, and you might look around the mall

1625
01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:55,187
Speaker 2: car park and find others doing the same, then yeah.

1626
01:24:55,227 --> 01:24:57,547
Speaker 2: But as the tech suggests, maybe just turn the engine

1627
01:24:57,547 --> 01:24:59,667
Speaker 2: on occasionally just to make sure the battery doesn't go

1628
01:24:59,747 --> 01:25:03,267
Speaker 2: flat Aeronnie Clark's on the show this hour. Pacifica. We'll

1629
01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:05,947
Speaker 2: have a voice at the highest level of rugby governance

1630
01:25:05,987 --> 01:25:10,947
Speaker 2: here New Zealand. Really really big news for the Pacifica

1631
01:25:10,987 --> 01:25:16,147
Speaker 2: community this week that they will get this. It's the

1632
01:25:16,267 --> 01:25:20,387
Speaker 2: New Zealand Pacifica Rugby Council. They've it's been approved by

1633
01:25:20,507 --> 01:25:23,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby's voting members. The addition as an affiliated

1634
01:25:23,747 --> 01:25:25,467
Speaker 2: body of New Zealand Rugby. What does this mean for

1635
01:25:25,987 --> 01:25:28,947
Speaker 2: Pacific Island rugby? Or Ronnie Clarke on that. Nicholas Lamper

1636
01:25:28,987 --> 01:25:32,227
Speaker 2: and along shortly tournament director of the ASB Classic. The

1637
01:25:32,267 --> 01:25:35,507
Speaker 2: women's field is all but locked in and friend Scolie

1638
01:25:36,267 --> 01:25:39,387
Speaker 2: CEO of Special Olympics New Zealand. It's been going on

1639
01:25:39,507 --> 01:25:42,907
Speaker 2: all week the Summer Games in christ Church, including the

1640
01:25:42,987 --> 01:25:47,267
Speaker 2: first ever event at the Patachyoti Center down in christ Church.

1641
01:25:47,467 --> 01:25:49,107
Speaker 2: How's it been. Fran Scholly going to join us and

1642
01:25:49,147 --> 01:25:52,547
Speaker 2: a sporting chants this hour as well. So lots to

1643
01:25:52,627 --> 01:25:55,587
Speaker 2: get through your calls and correspondence continue to be welcome.

1644
01:25:55,587 --> 01:25:57,867
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty for phone calls,

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01:25:58,347 --> 01:26:00,907
Speaker 2: nine two ninety two for text messages. But nine and

1646
01:26:00,907 --> 01:26:03,787
Speaker 2: a half past two is the time. Let's not Dilley

1647
01:26:03,907 --> 01:26:05,787
Speaker 2: Deally any longer. Time to catch you up on the

1648
01:26:05,867 --> 01:26:08,467
Speaker 2: things that may have escaped your attention over the last

1649
01:26:08,507 --> 01:26:13,147
Speaker 2: little while. A selection of sport that you may have missed,

1650
01:26:13,387 --> 01:26:16,987
Speaker 2: in case you missed it. Starting in the NFL, an

1651
01:26:17,067 --> 01:26:21,467
Speaker 2: upset win for the Atlanta Falcons over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

1652
01:26:22,147 --> 01:26:24,827
Speaker 2: shaking up the NFC South Division.

1653
01:26:24,627 --> 01:26:31,507
Speaker 19: Those others, Bradley Pinion, behold it and the kick is

1654
01:26:32,947 --> 01:26:35,987
Speaker 19: just inside the left upright.

1655
01:26:36,307 --> 01:26:39,547
Speaker 20: And there's a little celebraton going on as Charlotte North

1656
01:26:39,667 --> 01:26:44,707
Speaker 20: Carolina right now. This puts the Panthers in the driver's

1657
01:26:44,747 --> 01:26:47,547
Speaker 20: seat for Norman in the NFC South.

1658
01:26:48,267 --> 01:26:52,307
Speaker 2: The Wellington Phoenix women have fallen to a late winner

1659
01:26:52,507 --> 01:26:55,747
Speaker 2: in Perth in their latest A League women's match camp

1660
01:27:08,827 --> 01:27:12,747
Speaker 2: with them in France, one nil. The final result Perth

1661
01:27:12,747 --> 01:27:15,267
Speaker 2: glory over the Wellington Phoenix. No such problems for Auckland

1662
01:27:15,347 --> 01:27:17,547
Speaker 2: FC and the men's comp. They've gone to the top

1663
01:27:17,627 --> 01:27:19,827
Speaker 2: with a two to one away win over the Central

1664
01:27:19,867 --> 01:27:22,107
Speaker 2: Coast Mariners and Gospel undred.

1665
01:27:21,907 --> 01:27:23,947
Speaker 4: Pounds scrap the top of the Armors.

1666
01:27:23,787 --> 01:27:29,387
Speaker 2: Now Brook Fines, Oh god, what ahead of from Cosgrove.

1667
01:27:29,467 --> 01:27:30,787
Speaker 4: We have spoken about him.

1668
01:27:31,067 --> 01:27:33,387
Speaker 2: That is out of absolutely nothing.

1669
01:27:33,907 --> 01:27:35,627
Speaker 5: Brook goes to the edge of the box.

1670
01:27:35,667 --> 01:27:39,667
Speaker 17: It's a wonderful delivery and the danger of Sam Cosgrove.

1671
01:27:40,187 --> 01:27:41,187
Speaker 2: What what ahead of that is?

1672
01:27:41,307 --> 01:27:43,867
Speaker 5: After a great delivery, Sam Cosgrove gets his.

1673
01:27:43,947 --> 01:27:44,787
Speaker 4: Board of the season.

1674
01:27:45,067 --> 01:27:47,507
Speaker 2: As we heard before the two o'clock news, Hayden Wilde

1675
01:27:47,547 --> 01:27:49,907
Speaker 2: has claimed the T one hundred world title with a

1676
01:27:49,947 --> 01:27:51,227
Speaker 2: big win and cut up much.

1677
01:27:51,347 --> 01:27:55,467
Speaker 4: He's been cool, calm and collected all year on the

1678
01:27:55,547 --> 01:27:58,507
Speaker 4: T one hundred. The man has come back from the brink.

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01:27:58,827 --> 01:28:01,707
Speaker 4: It's fair to say that injury being knocked off his

1680
01:28:01,827 --> 01:28:05,347
Speaker 4: bike in Japan. He's a suitor hero, a suit of

1681
01:28:05,547 --> 01:28:09,627
Speaker 4: human effort from this kiwi aply Hayden wild I'll see

1682
01:28:09,667 --> 01:28:12,467
Speaker 4: one hundred world's Shoutyre.

1683
01:28:12,427 --> 01:28:15,747
Speaker 2: Incredible from Hayden wild And finally, at long last, Ryan

1684
01:28:15,867 --> 01:28:19,787
Speaker 2: Fox has not been caught winning his own tournaments chasing

1685
01:28:19,867 --> 01:28:22,307
Speaker 2: the Fox alongside Daniel Hillier.

1686
01:28:22,467 --> 01:28:25,747
Speaker 6: But here comes Hilliot up to the part. They just

1687
01:28:25,827 --> 01:28:28,307
Speaker 6: have to knock this one in and the title is

1688
01:28:28,347 --> 01:28:35,947
Speaker 6: there be Team Fox, Dan Helliott, easy as you like.

1689
01:28:36,107 --> 01:28:38,827
Speaker 6: End of the whole and Team Fox take out the

1690
01:28:39,187 --> 01:28:42,267
Speaker 6: Minookah fuel chasing the Fox twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1692
01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:50,907
Speaker 1: on eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hyne used talk.

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Speaker 2: ZB twelve past two Nicholas Lampern from the ASP ten

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Speaker 2: X Classic in the moment but Chasing the Fox. The

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01:28:56,867 --> 01:29:01,347
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport representative at Chasing the Fox was producer Andy McDonald.

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01:29:01,387 --> 01:29:02,187
Speaker 2: How was it yesterday?

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01:29:02,347 --> 01:29:05,307
Speaker 21: It's very fun Piney calling me a representative as a

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01:29:05,347 --> 01:29:06,267
Speaker 21: bit as a bit much.

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01:29:06,347 --> 01:29:08,227
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were there? You were there,

1700
01:29:08,307 --> 01:29:08,587
Speaker 2: weren't you?

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01:29:09,747 --> 01:29:12,987
Speaker 21: I was the Weekend Sport at ten day, shall we say,

1702
01:29:13,027 --> 01:29:17,067
Speaker 21: as a fantastic day out? Actually I was there early.

1703
01:29:17,107 --> 01:29:19,987
Speaker 21: There was a week corporate tournament beforehand, playing the same

1704
01:29:20,067 --> 01:29:23,307
Speaker 21: six holes, so it gave me pretty interesting perspective on

1705
01:29:23,987 --> 01:29:29,067
Speaker 21: actually how difficult that course the Royal England at the

1706
01:29:29,107 --> 01:29:33,587
Speaker 21: Grange is, and and some of these pro sports people

1707
01:29:33,627 --> 01:29:36,467
Speaker 21: that aren't golf is how good they are at more

1708
01:29:36,507 --> 01:29:39,347
Speaker 21: sports than just the ones, the ones that they played professionally.

1709
01:29:39,427 --> 01:29:42,627
Speaker 21: Is a very good day out. Though it's annoying, isn't it.

1710
01:29:42,667 --> 01:29:44,907
Speaker 21: It's annoying and isn't it when sports people are good

1711
01:29:44,947 --> 01:29:47,467
Speaker 21: at more than one thing? Mitchell Stanton has always been

1712
01:29:47,467 --> 01:29:49,347
Speaker 21: a very good golf hasn't He was he there yesterday?

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01:29:49,667 --> 01:29:50,147
Speaker 5: He was there.

1714
01:29:51,427 --> 01:29:53,467
Speaker 21: I don't think he was initially meant to be playing

1715
01:29:53,507 --> 01:29:55,707
Speaker 21: in that in the team cricket, but he was there.

1716
01:29:56,227 --> 01:29:58,467
Speaker 21: I did note on a couple of holes, which is

1717
01:29:59,107 --> 01:30:02,347
Speaker 21: almost incredible to say. I think there was definitely one

1718
01:30:02,427 --> 01:30:07,387
Speaker 21: that he out drove Ryan Fox, which is I mean,

1719
01:30:07,427 --> 01:30:09,907
Speaker 21: it was spraying a little bit more than than Fox.

1720
01:30:10,027 --> 01:30:14,867
Speaker 21: He was, but it's still He's a seriously good golfer

1721
01:30:14,867 --> 01:30:17,107
Speaker 21: and it's been well documented. But even just being able

1722
01:30:17,107 --> 01:30:21,347
Speaker 21: to see I suppose that's the great thing about events

1723
01:30:21,427 --> 01:30:23,147
Speaker 21: like this and the Black Clash, as you see them

1724
01:30:23,467 --> 01:30:26,907
Speaker 21: outside of what they usually do, and it's quite a fascinating,

1725
01:30:27,347 --> 01:30:30,507
Speaker 21: fascinating thing to watch. What about the crowds, big crowds,

1726
01:30:30,787 --> 01:30:33,067
Speaker 21: heaps of people there, heaps of crowds there. There were

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01:30:33,147 --> 01:30:35,907
Speaker 21: not too many spots actually, so it was quite a

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01:30:36,027 --> 01:30:40,307
Speaker 21: loose sort of occasion, people people having to be ushered

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01:30:40,347 --> 01:30:42,227
Speaker 21: by other members of the crowds to get off the

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01:30:42,267 --> 01:30:47,707
Speaker 21: fear away. I recall a moment when she loves golfers

1731
01:30:47,787 --> 01:30:49,627
Speaker 21: playing in the same group as the All Whites and

1732
01:30:50,347 --> 01:30:52,667
Speaker 21: they had a big crowd they obviously drove a lot

1733
01:30:52,747 --> 01:30:55,947
Speaker 21: further than the all whites, so they were they were

1734
01:30:55,987 --> 01:30:57,787
Speaker 21: getting ready to play their shots, and then someone had

1735
01:30:57,827 --> 01:30:59,827
Speaker 21: to tell them, Hey, the all whites are playing straight

1736
01:31:00,067 --> 01:31:01,827
Speaker 21: through you guys, so you guys better get out of

1737
01:31:01,867 --> 01:31:06,227
Speaker 21: the way. So yeah, it's like heaps of people there

1738
01:31:06,667 --> 01:31:10,027
Speaker 21: as a great event, and you're sort of worth there

1739
01:31:10,107 --> 01:31:13,267
Speaker 21: being no very few spotters and ushers, you could get

1740
01:31:13,347 --> 01:31:16,147
Speaker 21: almost as close as close as you could possibly get,

1741
01:31:16,507 --> 01:31:18,547
Speaker 21: sort of trampling on the green or in front of

1742
01:31:19,147 --> 01:31:19,867
Speaker 21: in front of the players.

1743
01:31:19,947 --> 01:31:23,307
Speaker 2: Lie. Great event. Great event. Well unto Ryan Fox for

1744
01:31:23,667 --> 01:31:26,227
Speaker 2: building into what it is. And you know there's there's

1745
01:31:26,227 --> 01:31:29,107
Speaker 2: a fundraising element to it, of course, and an accessibility

1746
01:31:29,147 --> 01:31:31,027
Speaker 2: that you've just outlined that is terrific. You know, what

1747
01:31:31,107 --> 01:31:32,307
Speaker 2: a great time to have it to. A couple of

1748
01:31:32,347 --> 01:31:34,907
Speaker 2: weeks out from Christmas. The weather was good there yesterday.

1749
01:31:34,947 --> 01:31:39,187
Speaker 2: Did you apply plenty of sunscreen you've come away unscathed? No, Yeah,

1750
01:31:40,427 --> 01:31:42,347
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a zinc ware a pioneer, so.

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01:31:44,147 --> 01:31:47,187
Speaker 21: Religiously you reapply sunscreen and get make sure I'm zincd

1752
01:31:47,267 --> 01:31:49,307
Speaker 21: up to the brim. So now I I was safe

1753
01:31:49,347 --> 01:31:53,507
Speaker 21: as from the sun, from not from bad golf though,

1754
01:31:53,547 --> 01:31:57,987
Speaker 21: because that was it was the first I'll tell you

1755
01:31:58,107 --> 01:32:00,427
Speaker 21: the we tail of the first hole where I piped

1756
01:32:00,467 --> 01:32:02,467
Speaker 21: my drive straight up the middle of the fairway, but

1757
01:32:02,507 --> 01:32:04,507
Speaker 21: they were just so having a bunker right in the middle.

1758
01:32:05,587 --> 01:32:08,747
Speaker 21: And then what Eric Murray play that same hole a

1759
01:32:08,867 --> 01:32:12,467
Speaker 21: few hours later and he sent it twice the distance

1760
01:32:12,627 --> 01:32:16,467
Speaker 21: I did, thinking, oh, okay, maybe pro golf isn't for me.

1761
01:32:16,587 --> 01:32:18,987
Speaker 21: If this non pro golf is sending it twice the

1762
01:32:19,067 --> 01:32:21,347
Speaker 21: distance of me, well, it does have very big shoulders

1763
01:32:21,467 --> 01:32:24,107
Speaker 21: Eric Murray. You know he's got a bit of power. Look,

1764
01:32:24,147 --> 01:32:27,227
Speaker 21: no man I think is going to improve your driving unfortune.

1765
01:32:27,427 --> 01:32:29,347
Speaker 21: And I think me complaining is a man that doesn't

1766
01:32:29,387 --> 01:32:31,987
Speaker 21: really go to the gym, workout or do any golf training.

1767
01:32:32,107 --> 01:32:34,267
Speaker 21: About me not being that good at golf. I really

1768
01:32:34,307 --> 01:32:35,347
Speaker 21: have nothing to complain about.

1769
01:32:35,747 --> 01:32:37,467
Speaker 2: All right. Well, it's a great rap. Thank you for

1770
01:32:37,627 --> 01:32:40,107
Speaker 2: rapping us so well there yesterday at Chasing the Fox,

1771
01:32:40,187 --> 01:32:44,347
Speaker 2: and congratulations to everybody involved. It's a terrific event. A

1772
01:32:44,427 --> 01:32:47,547
Speaker 2: former Grand Slam tennis champion meantime and previous winner of

1773
01:32:47,627 --> 01:32:50,547
Speaker 2: the ASB Classic will both return to the women's field,

1774
01:32:50,587 --> 01:32:53,867
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty six American Sloan Stevens is one of

1775
01:32:53,907 --> 01:32:57,227
Speaker 2: the four wild cards for the tournament, alongside seven time

1776
01:32:57,387 --> 01:33:01,907
Speaker 2: Grand Slam champion Venus Williams, British star Katie Bolter and

1777
01:33:02,187 --> 01:33:05,507
Speaker 2: yet to be determined Kei we. The field is headlined

1778
01:33:05,547 --> 01:33:09,467
Speaker 2: by Ukraine's Elena Spittelina and American Emma Navarro. They are

1779
01:33:09,547 --> 01:33:14,147
Speaker 2: fourteenth and fifteenth respectively in the current WTA World rankings.

1780
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Speaker 2: The tournament runs from January five to eleven, and is

1781
01:33:18,387 --> 01:33:20,987
Speaker 2: immediately followed by the men's tournament, of course through until

1782
01:33:21,067 --> 01:33:24,347
Speaker 2: January seventeen. Tournament director Nicholas lamper And is with us

1783
01:33:24,387 --> 01:33:27,787
Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport. Nicholas, congratulations on the women's field. It

1784
01:33:27,867 --> 01:33:29,187
Speaker 2: looks great. Are you happy with it.

1785
01:33:30,267 --> 01:33:33,507
Speaker 12: We're all extremely happy about the field that we've We've

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01:33:33,587 --> 01:33:37,107
Speaker 12: managed to put together. You know, every time we start

1787
01:33:37,107 --> 01:33:39,267
Speaker 12: from a blank page, and it's always a bit of

1788
01:33:39,307 --> 01:33:41,147
Speaker 12: a challenge to kind.

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01:33:40,907 --> 01:33:43,427
Speaker 9: Of bring the players that we have in mind.

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Speaker 12: I think the draw that we have is a good

1791
01:33:47,387 --> 01:33:52,187
Speaker 12: reflection of you know, some established players who've been you know,

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01:33:52,307 --> 01:33:55,787
Speaker 12: regularly in the top ten. You know, players like Elena's

1793
01:33:55,827 --> 01:34:00,307
Speaker 12: Vitulina or em and Avaro. You know, world famous name

1794
01:34:00,467 --> 01:34:04,507
Speaker 12: like Venice Williams, but also the young generation with the

1795
01:34:04,747 --> 01:34:08,907
Speaker 12: likes of Ala Yovic or Yennistin.

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01:34:09,427 --> 01:34:11,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask about those younger players. The

1797
01:34:11,267 --> 01:34:15,427
Speaker 2: ASP Classic has a great reputation of providing opportunities for

1798
01:34:15,507 --> 01:34:19,187
Speaker 2: promising young players that go on to find success in

1799
01:34:19,307 --> 01:34:22,787
Speaker 2: their careers. The likes of Cocoa Golf and Bianca andrei Escu.

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01:34:22,987 --> 01:34:24,467
Speaker 2: Tell us a bit more about some of the younger

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01:34:24,507 --> 01:34:27,147
Speaker 2: players that we can look forward to saying this year.

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01:34:28,307 --> 01:34:30,627
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, we're always really proud to say that.

1803
01:34:30,827 --> 01:34:34,507
Speaker 12: You know, those players started in Auckland and it was

1804
01:34:34,947 --> 01:34:37,227
Speaker 12: the very first step of the big journey to the

1805
01:34:37,387 --> 01:34:42,547
Speaker 12: top of the rankings. So we scout them twelve to

1806
01:34:42,787 --> 01:34:45,507
Speaker 12: six months ahead of the tournament, and this year we

1807
01:34:45,627 --> 01:34:49,107
Speaker 12: decided to go for Iva Yovich. You know, she made

1808
01:34:49,187 --> 01:34:52,587
Speaker 12: some really good results on the tour. She was aged

1809
01:34:52,667 --> 01:34:56,027
Speaker 12: seventeen and she managed to win a first DA five

1810
01:34:56,107 --> 01:34:58,387
Speaker 12: hundred tournaments. So she's only eighteen and she's coming to

1811
01:34:58,467 --> 01:35:03,147
Speaker 12: open for the first year. The second one is Alexandra Aerla.

1812
01:35:03,387 --> 01:35:06,947
Speaker 12: She left the Philippines at a young age age when

1813
01:35:07,027 --> 01:35:11,267
Speaker 12: all the ways to Spain. Basis herself in Majoca at

1814
01:35:11,267 --> 01:35:14,667
Speaker 12: the RAF Underdeal Academy, also one of the first tournament

1815
01:35:14,707 --> 01:35:18,787
Speaker 12: this year, and you know, very very talented lefty and

1816
01:35:18,867 --> 01:35:21,707
Speaker 12: already a huge star in the Philippines. First time ever

1817
01:35:21,787 --> 01:35:25,347
Speaker 12: that the Philippines have a player ranked within the top fifty,

1818
01:35:25,747 --> 01:35:28,067
Speaker 12: and the last one is Jennistien a bit of a

1819
01:35:28,147 --> 01:35:32,387
Speaker 12: different story. Decided to go to college first, you know,

1820
01:35:32,547 --> 01:35:35,787
Speaker 12: just to become a bit stronger, get more experience, and

1821
01:35:36,027 --> 01:35:40,867
Speaker 12: she went from being unranked a year ago to being

1822
01:35:40,987 --> 01:35:43,947
Speaker 12: now a top fifty player in the course of the

1823
01:35:44,027 --> 01:35:46,307
Speaker 12: last twelve months, which is a remarkable achievement.

1824
01:35:46,587 --> 01:35:48,907
Speaker 2: Look forward to seeing those young players in action. I

1825
01:35:48,947 --> 01:35:51,747
Speaker 2: guess at the other end of the experienced scale. Venus

1826
01:35:51,787 --> 01:35:55,307
Speaker 2: Williams back for her seventh appearance at the ASP Classic.

1827
01:35:55,587 --> 01:35:58,147
Speaker 2: How much interest does she still generate for you?

1828
01:35:59,707 --> 01:36:00,547
Speaker 9: Venus is huge.

1829
01:36:01,787 --> 01:36:04,387
Speaker 12: You don't know how much pressure I get from the

1830
01:36:04,907 --> 01:36:08,667
Speaker 12: people of the office to sign sever year. It's really

1831
01:36:08,827 --> 01:36:12,747
Speaker 12: the the player that everybody wants to see year after year.

1832
01:36:13,387 --> 01:36:15,427
Speaker 12: This year was a little bit different because she had

1833
01:36:15,507 --> 01:36:17,227
Speaker 12: been off for a while and we were not really

1834
01:36:17,267 --> 01:36:20,107
Speaker 12: quite sure about what the plants were going to be.

1835
01:36:21,307 --> 01:36:23,987
Speaker 12: And then over the summer she gave us communication that

1836
01:36:24,187 --> 01:36:26,707
Speaker 12: she was back and that she wanted to play some

1837
01:36:26,827 --> 01:36:31,187
Speaker 12: more so after witnessing the level that she displayed in

1838
01:36:31,267 --> 01:36:34,507
Speaker 12: the US, we decided to go after her and then

1839
01:36:34,627 --> 01:36:37,347
Speaker 12: we managed to secure a participation.

1840
01:36:38,107 --> 01:36:41,947
Speaker 2: Elena Spittelina and Emmanavro fourteenth and fifteenth in the world currently.

1841
01:36:42,227 --> 01:36:44,587
Speaker 2: How happy you, Nicholas would that pair as your top

1842
01:36:44,667 --> 01:36:45,267
Speaker 2: two seats.

1843
01:36:47,187 --> 01:36:49,987
Speaker 12: I think it's great to have bought the number fourteen

1844
01:36:50,067 --> 01:36:52,947
Speaker 12: and number fifteen. Last year the top seed was many

1845
01:36:52,987 --> 01:36:55,787
Speaker 12: some keys and she was, if I remember correctly, twenty

1846
01:36:55,827 --> 01:36:58,587
Speaker 12: one in the world, so it's an improvement from last

1847
01:36:58,667 --> 01:37:02,827
Speaker 12: year the top fifteen player. But at the same time,

1848
01:37:02,947 --> 01:37:04,587
Speaker 12: they spent a lot of time in the top ten

1849
01:37:05,267 --> 01:37:08,507
Speaker 12: and I feeling this is where they belongs. So for

1850
01:37:08,627 --> 01:37:12,027
Speaker 12: them to be in Auckland in week one, I think

1851
01:37:12,387 --> 01:37:16,547
Speaker 12: it creates the perfect pathway to start the season strong,

1852
01:37:17,147 --> 01:37:19,387
Speaker 12: be ambitious and do well for the rest of the

1853
01:37:19,427 --> 01:37:20,227
Speaker 12: season and the.

1854
01:37:20,307 --> 01:37:22,907
Speaker 2: Weak town New Zealanders in the field. Lulu Sun qualifying

1855
01:37:22,947 --> 01:37:26,027
Speaker 2: directly under her world ranking. Now that allows a second

1856
01:37:26,107 --> 01:37:29,067
Speaker 2: keywa to compete as a confirmed wild card. How much

1857
01:37:29,107 --> 01:37:30,467
Speaker 2: of a booster is that to you? To know that

1858
01:37:30,547 --> 01:37:33,227
Speaker 2: there's going to be two keyways involved in the women's tournament.

1859
01:37:34,187 --> 01:37:36,907
Speaker 12: Well, we always want to have as many key as

1860
01:37:36,947 --> 01:37:39,227
Speaker 12: possible in the draw, you know, we in the Zilearn

1861
01:37:39,467 --> 01:37:41,587
Speaker 12: and obviously people want to see.

1862
01:37:41,827 --> 01:37:42,867
Speaker 9: The locals do well.

1863
01:37:44,427 --> 01:37:48,667
Speaker 12: Lulu had a strong finish which gave us the opportunity

1864
01:37:48,707 --> 01:37:52,347
Speaker 12: to enter directly on ranking, and at the same time

1865
01:37:52,427 --> 01:37:55,827
Speaker 12: it opens an opportunity for another World CUD to qualify.

1866
01:37:56,027 --> 01:38:00,227
Speaker 12: So there's a race system in place which is based

1867
01:38:00,307 --> 01:38:06,307
Speaker 12: on results over the last twelve months. Two more tournaments

1868
01:38:06,587 --> 01:38:10,747
Speaker 12: to play, one this week in Hamilton, another one in Papamoa,

1869
01:38:11,387 --> 01:38:14,227
Speaker 12: and once those tournaments are over will have a better

1870
01:38:14,267 --> 01:38:18,787
Speaker 12: indication who will be the player eligible for that last WORLDOUD.

1871
01:38:18,947 --> 01:38:21,347
Speaker 2: We'll look forward to seeing who that second key we is.

1872
01:38:21,987 --> 01:38:24,147
Speaker 2: Beyond the women's tournament the men's tournament of course, and

1873
01:38:24,227 --> 01:38:27,107
Speaker 2: great news this week you've confirmed the return of Casper

1874
01:38:27,227 --> 01:38:29,987
Speaker 2: Route for the men's tournament. We've seen him here but

1875
01:38:30,067 --> 01:38:32,787
Speaker 2: it was almost a bit of a not a non event,

1876
01:38:32,827 --> 01:38:37,267
Speaker 2: but conditions conspired against you last time Casper was here.

1877
01:38:37,627 --> 01:38:40,227
Speaker 2: How significant to have them coming back for you though.

1878
01:38:41,107 --> 01:38:45,147
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean Casper came last time in twenty twenty three.

1879
01:38:46,147 --> 01:38:48,347
Speaker 12: Was a bit of a sad situation whereby we had

1880
01:38:48,347 --> 01:38:51,307
Speaker 12: a lot of rain, he had to play indoor, it

1881
01:38:51,507 --> 01:38:54,307
Speaker 12: was late at night, and no one got a chance

1882
01:38:54,747 --> 01:38:56,307
Speaker 12: to see him. I think at the time he had

1883
01:38:56,427 --> 01:38:58,787
Speaker 12: just played the final of the US Open. He was

1884
01:38:58,907 --> 01:39:00,907
Speaker 12: number two and number three in the world, so it

1885
01:39:01,027 --> 01:39:03,667
Speaker 12: was a real shame for our fans not to be

1886
01:39:03,747 --> 01:39:08,187
Speaker 12: able to see him play on court. So it was

1887
01:39:08,227 --> 01:39:09,827
Speaker 12: always in the back of my mind that I would

1888
01:39:09,907 --> 01:39:12,787
Speaker 12: like him to return one day, and I'm super happy

1889
01:39:12,867 --> 01:39:15,587
Speaker 12: that we managed to get it done for twenty twenty six.

1890
01:39:15,907 --> 01:39:17,747
Speaker 2: And of course we had news a couple of months

1891
01:39:17,747 --> 01:39:20,427
Speaker 2: ago of government investment into a roof on Center Court

1892
01:39:20,467 --> 01:39:23,707
Speaker 2: at your venue there at Stanley Street, possibly as early

1893
01:39:23,787 --> 01:39:26,427
Speaker 2: as as twenty twenty seven. We wait to see how

1894
01:39:26,507 --> 01:39:28,867
Speaker 2: much confidence, though, will that give you moving forward in

1895
01:39:28,987 --> 01:39:31,187
Speaker 2: terms of the tournament, the pliers you're going to track,

1896
01:39:31,307 --> 01:39:33,947
Speaker 2: and security that the roof will give you in terms

1897
01:39:33,987 --> 01:39:34,907
Speaker 2: of weather conditions.

1898
01:39:36,787 --> 01:39:40,147
Speaker 12: It's crucial for us to have an infrastructure and a

1899
01:39:40,227 --> 01:39:44,107
Speaker 12: stadium that is up to the standards. This year we

1900
01:39:44,827 --> 01:39:49,027
Speaker 12: started a lot of renovation around the venue by extending

1901
01:39:49,107 --> 01:39:52,587
Speaker 12: sent court, by replacing one of the stands, increasing the

1902
01:39:52,667 --> 01:39:55,587
Speaker 12: capacity of the stadium. And then the second step will

1903
01:39:55,627 --> 01:39:58,627
Speaker 12: be to have the roof on, so we almost there

1904
01:39:58,667 --> 01:40:01,987
Speaker 12: in terms of funding, which is waiting a final confirmation,

1905
01:40:02,627 --> 01:40:06,427
Speaker 12: which I'm being told should happen very very soon. And

1906
01:40:06,747 --> 01:40:09,347
Speaker 12: you know, once we have this new facility in place,

1907
01:40:09,507 --> 01:40:13,227
Speaker 12: it's really going to help us deal with the conditions.

1908
01:40:13,427 --> 01:40:17,187
Speaker 12: We know they can be very wet or very windy

1909
01:40:17,227 --> 01:40:20,507
Speaker 12: in Auckland and sometimes it gets stuck in players of minds.

1910
01:40:20,547 --> 01:40:23,747
Speaker 12: So for us to be able to tell players that

1911
01:40:23,907 --> 01:40:28,307
Speaker 12: now in the conditions are going to be ideal will

1912
01:40:28,347 --> 01:40:32,107
Speaker 12: help us to continue to bring the top ten of

1913
01:40:32,227 --> 01:40:32,667
Speaker 12: the future.

1914
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Speaker 2: Very exciting times and ticket sales no doubt going well

1915
01:40:35,867 --> 01:40:38,907
Speaker 2: for this year's or early twenty twenty six with the

1916
01:40:38,947 --> 01:40:42,107
Speaker 2: women's field confirmed now some exciting names and the means

1917
01:40:42,347 --> 01:40:44,067
Speaker 2: tickets will be We're going well.

1918
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Speaker 5: No doubt.

1919
01:40:45,467 --> 01:40:48,627
Speaker 12: Yeah, ticket sales are going extremely well. Were a couple

1920
01:40:48,667 --> 01:40:53,907
Speaker 12: of thousands above what we had last time at the

1921
01:40:53,947 --> 01:40:58,947
Speaker 12: same period, So extremely happy. We still have some tickets available,

1922
01:40:59,987 --> 01:41:01,467
Speaker 12: but it's going really, really really well.

1923
01:41:01,667 --> 01:41:03,587
Speaker 2: Great to hear, great and hear in the next all

1924
01:41:03,627 --> 01:41:06,307
Speaker 2: of this organizing all of these tennis players on the tournament,

1925
01:41:06,667 --> 01:41:08,467
Speaker 2: you spend a bit of time at go Media Stadium

1926
01:41:08,507 --> 01:41:10,867
Speaker 2: watching Auckland. If so as well you become a Black

1927
01:41:10,947 --> 01:41:14,147
Speaker 2: Knights fan as well. I understand, yeah I do. I

1928
01:41:14,227 --> 01:41:17,627
Speaker 2: do love my old trainesca. I come with my kids

1929
01:41:17,867 --> 01:41:23,027
Speaker 2: as much as I can. We we big Liverpool fans

1930
01:41:23,067 --> 01:41:25,267
Speaker 2: in the family, so.

1931
01:41:25,387 --> 01:41:28,627
Speaker 12: It's slightly different work, but it's nice to be able

1932
01:41:28,667 --> 01:41:32,587
Speaker 12: to relate to a team locally. And last year actually

1933
01:41:32,627 --> 01:41:36,267
Speaker 12: I invited your rookie psych Gi to the tournament, you

1934
01:41:36,347 --> 01:41:39,707
Speaker 12: know when when now Musica was playing, so it was

1935
01:41:39,747 --> 01:41:41,947
Speaker 12: great and then he came with I think Tommy Smith

1936
01:41:42,107 --> 01:41:44,627
Speaker 12: came as well. He was, you know, taking photos with

1937
01:41:45,107 --> 01:41:47,907
Speaker 12: immar Red Canoe and yeah, it was it was nice

1938
01:41:47,907 --> 01:41:48,947
Speaker 12: to have the plays around.

1939
01:41:49,147 --> 01:41:51,947
Speaker 2: Nice connection, wonderful stuff. Nicholas again, thank you for chatting

1940
01:41:51,987 --> 01:41:54,387
Speaker 2: to us. Well done on this awesome women's field. Look

1941
01:41:54,427 --> 01:41:56,467
Speaker 2: forward to catching up again when the tournament draws closer.

1942
01:41:57,147 --> 01:41:57,907
Speaker 12: Yeah, my pleasure.

1943
01:41:57,987 --> 01:41:58,587
Speaker 9: Thanks very much.

1944
01:41:58,667 --> 01:42:01,547
Speaker 2: No, thank you, Nicholas, Nicholas Lampron. They're the tournament director

1945
01:42:01,627 --> 01:42:04,747
Speaker 2: of the ASP Classics. So Sloan Stevens is coming back,

1946
01:42:04,907 --> 01:42:08,227
Speaker 2: Venus Williams is coming back, British star Kadie Bolta, there'll

1947
01:42:08,267 --> 01:42:11,227
Speaker 2: be another key We wildcard with Lulusun in the field.

1948
01:42:11,347 --> 01:42:15,147
Speaker 2: On her ranking lend the Switzerlina and Emmenavaro the top

1949
01:42:15,227 --> 01:42:19,427
Speaker 2: two seats fourteenth and fifteenth respectively in the current WTA

1950
01:42:19,547 --> 01:42:22,707
Speaker 2: World rankings. The Women's tournament January five through eleven, then

1951
01:42:22,747 --> 01:42:26,907
Speaker 2: the men's through until the seventeenth of January to twenty six,

1952
01:42:27,027 --> 01:42:29,627
Speaker 2: when we come back to Ronnie Clark is with us

1953
01:42:29,747 --> 01:42:34,147
Speaker 2: talking about a massive development in Pacifica rugby over the

1954
01:42:34,227 --> 01:42:34,907
Speaker 2: past week.

1955
01:42:35,747 --> 01:42:39,267
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

1956
01:42:39,387 --> 01:42:43,227
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vyne and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's

1957
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1958
01:42:45,987 --> 01:42:48,787
Speaker 2: It's two twenty nine. For the first time ever, Pacifica

1959
01:42:48,907 --> 01:42:51,147
Speaker 2: will have a voice at the highest level of rugby

1960
01:42:51,267 --> 01:42:54,667
Speaker 2: governance in this country. New Zealand Rugby Voting members this

1961
01:42:54,827 --> 01:42:58,627
Speaker 2: week approved the edition of the New Zealand Pacifica Rugby

1962
01:42:58,787 --> 01:43:02,867
Speaker 2: Council as an affiliated body of New Zealand Rugby. The

1963
01:43:02,987 --> 01:43:06,267
Speaker 2: Pacifica Rugby Council will formerly hold two votes under the

1964
01:43:06,347 --> 01:43:10,707
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Constitution and represent the interests of Pacifica

1965
01:43:10,827 --> 01:43:14,187
Speaker 2: Rugby in New Zealand at all levels of the game.

1966
01:43:14,587 --> 01:43:20,107
Speaker 2: This initiative recognizes the immense contribution PACIFICA players, coaches, administrators,

1967
01:43:20,187 --> 01:43:24,667
Speaker 2: volunteers and communities make to rugby here in New Zealand.

1968
01:43:25,027 --> 01:43:27,707
Speaker 2: Let's bring in former all black and prominent voice in

1969
01:43:27,827 --> 01:43:31,707
Speaker 2: Pasifica rugby and the PACIFICA community and proud someone and

1970
01:43:31,987 --> 01:43:35,347
Speaker 2: Ironni Clark, IRONI thanks for joining us. How big our

1971
01:43:35,427 --> 01:43:36,707
Speaker 2: development is this?

1972
01:43:37,827 --> 01:43:37,987
Speaker 8: Oh?

1973
01:43:38,107 --> 01:43:44,667
Speaker 18: Finally, this is a major game changer for Pacific especially

1974
01:43:44,747 --> 01:43:49,747
Speaker 18: during due to the contribution of the speaker and rugby

1975
01:43:49,787 --> 01:43:53,067
Speaker 18: across out your all and plus the legacy that it's

1976
01:43:53,547 --> 01:43:56,467
Speaker 18: certainly added to the legacy of New Zealand to all

1977
01:43:56,547 --> 01:44:01,467
Speaker 18: black Black being rugby over the years, and certainly the

1978
01:44:01,547 --> 01:44:06,787
Speaker 18: contribution to Super NPC and FPC. It's a major It

1979
01:44:06,907 --> 01:44:10,787
Speaker 18: really does give an opportunity for in this sense self

1980
01:44:10,827 --> 01:44:13,627
Speaker 18: determination but also to continue to add to the legacy

1981
01:44:13,667 --> 01:44:15,307
Speaker 18: of rugby in altiora.

1982
01:44:15,827 --> 01:44:19,187
Speaker 2: How long has advocacy for this been going on?

1983
01:44:20,107 --> 01:44:23,027
Speaker 18: Well, I think it's what's been really the greatest since

1984
01:44:23,187 --> 01:44:26,907
Speaker 18: the launch of the Pacific Strategy, the New Zealand YPI

1985
01:44:26,947 --> 01:44:29,667
Speaker 18: Pacific Strategy a couple of years ago. This is really

1986
01:44:30,987 --> 01:44:35,467
Speaker 18: another step in the piece of creating and working collaboratively

1987
01:44:35,667 --> 01:44:39,787
Speaker 18: with New Zealand Rugby as well so this is and

1988
01:44:40,067 --> 01:44:43,347
Speaker 18: of course they're working and inclusiveness of the Pacific Advisory

1989
01:44:43,387 --> 01:44:45,107
Speaker 18: Group has been a big part of this as well,

1990
01:44:45,867 --> 01:44:50,787
Speaker 18: So that really has been a huge major work with

1991
01:44:51,827 --> 01:44:56,667
Speaker 18: the Pacific Advisory and then onto the now the Pacific

1992
01:44:56,747 --> 01:44:59,187
Speaker 18: Rugby Council as well. But I think just to probably

1993
01:44:59,267 --> 01:45:02,387
Speaker 18: really to know, it's been very very in aligned with

1994
01:45:02,707 --> 01:45:05,947
Speaker 18: the New Zealand Rugby Pacificare strategy and of course the

1995
01:45:06,027 --> 01:45:07,627
Speaker 18: new Ye and Roggy strategy as well.

1996
01:45:08,307 --> 01:45:11,387
Speaker 2: So I mean it's a it's a wonderful thing that

1997
01:45:11,787 --> 01:45:14,827
Speaker 2: we finally have reached this point. But moving forward now

1998
01:45:15,107 --> 01:45:17,787
Speaker 2: on a day to day nuts and bolts, what does

1999
01:45:17,907 --> 01:45:21,147
Speaker 2: this mean for pacifica rugby Well.

2000
01:45:20,987 --> 01:45:25,627
Speaker 18: I think there's the aspirations of Pacific over the years

2001
01:45:25,707 --> 01:45:28,107
Speaker 18: and how we're able to begin to see it since

2002
01:45:28,947 --> 01:45:31,827
Speaker 18: now we're well represented on the rugby field, but we

2003
01:45:31,907 --> 01:45:37,507
Speaker 18: also can see looking at supporting Pacific and other non

2004
01:45:37,587 --> 01:45:42,227
Speaker 18: playing roles in the game, certainly supporting the number of

2005
01:45:42,267 --> 01:45:45,387
Speaker 18: coaches of Pacific coaches that can be in the game. Also,

2006
01:45:45,427 --> 01:45:48,707
Speaker 18: when you think about referees, the need for more Pacific

2007
01:45:48,747 --> 01:45:51,667
Speaker 18: referees and even at the governance tables as well. So

2008
01:45:51,827 --> 01:45:55,107
Speaker 18: you think that how well and how much the contribution

2009
01:45:55,267 --> 01:45:58,027
Speaker 18: of Pacific is on the field. But certainly now this

2010
01:45:58,147 --> 01:46:01,027
Speaker 18: gives even more of a support and not just to

2011
01:46:01,107 --> 01:46:07,427
Speaker 18: support here Pacific Ruby Heart all but certainly supporting s

2012
01:46:07,427 --> 01:46:11,307
Speaker 18: Pacific rugby, especially in the Pacific, but also globally. It

2013
01:46:11,347 --> 01:46:12,707
Speaker 18: connects us globally as well.

2014
01:46:13,387 --> 01:46:16,507
Speaker 2: Is there a data available or even anecdotal evidence on

2015
01:46:16,667 --> 01:46:19,907
Speaker 2: what percentage of the New Zealand rugby community at all

2016
01:46:20,027 --> 01:46:23,427
Speaker 2: levels is from Pacific communities.

2017
01:46:23,987 --> 01:46:27,627
Speaker 18: Yes, well, certainly we think about high performance and we

2018
01:46:27,747 --> 01:46:29,987
Speaker 18: think about from the teams are black, we're looking at

2019
01:46:30,067 --> 01:46:33,947
Speaker 18: thirty percent in certainly in the in the men's game.

2020
01:46:34,467 --> 01:46:37,227
Speaker 18: If we think about now in the women's game at

2021
01:46:37,347 --> 01:46:41,307
Speaker 18: high performance, there's even a higher percentage. And now we're

2022
01:46:41,347 --> 01:46:48,107
Speaker 18: seeing of course at the NPC FPC levels at provincial unions,

2023
01:46:48,147 --> 01:46:51,267
Speaker 18: we're seeing a lot more of numbers that are growing

2024
01:46:51,347 --> 01:46:55,747
Speaker 18: in the game. There's obviously major areas where pacifica are

2025
01:46:55,987 --> 01:46:59,987
Speaker 18: like except Auckland Wellington, but certain now we're seeing even

2026
01:47:00,027 --> 01:47:03,907
Speaker 18: in heartland areas where we're seeing contributional Pacific in the

2027
01:47:04,067 --> 01:47:06,667
Speaker 18: RC workers that are there, that are in and there

2028
01:47:06,787 --> 01:47:10,267
Speaker 18: is whereas you know we've got we might have there

2029
01:47:10,307 --> 01:47:13,227
Speaker 18: a region where there's a five hundred population that all

2030
01:47:13,227 --> 01:47:15,227
Speaker 18: of a sudden you have an RC group that's here

2031
01:47:15,227 --> 01:47:16,787
Speaker 18: and it's all of a sudden you got to tell

2032
01:47:16,867 --> 01:47:20,747
Speaker 18: them of thousand population. And we're seeing this more and more.

2033
01:47:20,867 --> 01:47:24,307
Speaker 18: But I suppose it really also begs the question that's

2034
01:47:24,387 --> 01:47:27,467
Speaker 18: asked by some of our regions across our st orders, Hey,

2035
01:47:27,547 --> 01:47:29,867
Speaker 18: how do we connect better with our specific population that

2036
01:47:29,907 --> 01:47:33,627
Speaker 18: are growing here, so really being able then to develop

2037
01:47:34,067 --> 01:47:38,387
Speaker 18: redevelopment in those areas and supporting our provincial unions, our

2038
01:47:38,467 --> 01:47:42,547
Speaker 18: heartland unions as well to understanding how to connect better

2039
01:47:43,387 --> 01:47:46,787
Speaker 18: as well, and especially in the cultural responsiveness spaces.

2040
01:47:47,227 --> 01:47:50,867
Speaker 2: And you alluded to it before, de Donnie, and you're right.

2041
01:47:50,907 --> 01:47:53,147
Speaker 2: I mean, we marvel at the at the number, the

2042
01:47:53,227 --> 01:47:56,267
Speaker 2: sheer number of PACIFICA players, not just in the elite

2043
01:47:56,307 --> 01:47:59,027
Speaker 2: teams you've talked about, but right across the rugby pyramid.

2044
01:47:59,067 --> 01:48:01,667
Speaker 2: But what about things like coaching and referee and do

2045
01:48:01,707 --> 01:48:03,547
Speaker 2: you see that there's some work to do to create

2046
01:48:03,667 --> 01:48:05,787
Speaker 2: obvious pathways in those areas?

2047
01:48:06,427 --> 01:48:10,147
Speaker 18: Certainly we have and I think that's it's certainly the strategy,

2048
01:48:10,227 --> 01:48:13,307
Speaker 18: the Pacific strategy really really supports that. And so how

2049
01:48:13,387 --> 01:48:16,107
Speaker 18: do we do that how do we begin to really

2050
01:48:16,187 --> 01:48:20,867
Speaker 18: start to carve our parkways to encouraging our Pacific to

2051
01:48:22,747 --> 01:48:25,267
Speaker 18: go down the path of coaching, to look at coaching

2052
01:48:25,387 --> 01:48:30,387
Speaker 18: as even more as a as a career. Or now

2053
01:48:30,467 --> 01:48:32,627
Speaker 18: we do have some obviously we've we've had some really

2054
01:48:32,667 --> 01:48:36,747
Speaker 18: good people come through and so the more very very similarly,

2055
01:48:36,907 --> 01:48:39,987
Speaker 18: I suppose with our Pacific communities, if we see more

2056
01:48:40,027 --> 01:48:42,507
Speaker 18: of our people in those spaces like we did with

2057
01:48:42,787 --> 01:48:46,627
Speaker 18: Sir Brian Williams years ago, it really does help Pacific

2058
01:48:46,707 --> 01:48:49,627
Speaker 18: communities to recognize we can do the coaching, we can,

2059
01:48:50,427 --> 01:48:53,787
Speaker 18: we see the need in the refereeing and so those

2060
01:48:53,827 --> 01:48:57,387
Speaker 18: are sort of having those champions. Now we have we

2061
01:48:57,507 --> 01:49:01,827
Speaker 18: have our first specific CEO in the in the heartland space.

2062
01:49:01,947 --> 01:49:06,507
Speaker 18: So it's those sort of champions that really starts have

2063
01:49:06,827 --> 01:49:09,867
Speaker 18: our communities aspirations to recognize what if they can do

2064
01:49:09,987 --> 01:49:12,347
Speaker 18: what we can too. So you can see more in

2065
01:49:12,387 --> 01:49:16,947
Speaker 18: the administrative areas as well. It helps to build programs

2066
01:49:17,307 --> 01:49:20,747
Speaker 18: or pathways or we're collaboratively certainly with our provincial unions

2067
01:49:21,627 --> 01:49:25,587
Speaker 18: building those those spaces and pathways for Pacific communities.

2068
01:49:26,067 --> 01:49:28,107
Speaker 2: If we go right down to junior numbers here, Honnie,

2069
01:49:28,187 --> 01:49:29,827
Speaker 2: you know there are a lot of options for our

2070
01:49:29,907 --> 01:49:32,827
Speaker 2: kids these days in Pacific communities and all communities, you know,

2071
01:49:32,987 --> 01:49:36,467
Speaker 2: not just rugby, rugby, league basketball, other sports are the pastimes.

2072
01:49:37,067 --> 01:49:41,347
Speaker 2: Is rugby still a popular choice for our for our

2073
01:49:41,427 --> 01:49:43,027
Speaker 2: young people in the Pacific communities?

2074
01:49:43,427 --> 01:49:46,427
Speaker 18: And that's a really good question, Painty. I mean, you know,

2075
01:49:46,907 --> 01:49:49,067
Speaker 18: it's and it's not just you know, it's not just

2076
01:49:49,827 --> 01:49:53,547
Speaker 18: our Pacific communities. Parents are also worried and concerned about

2077
01:49:53,627 --> 01:49:56,867
Speaker 18: the contacts and the collision and the whole focus around

2078
01:49:57,427 --> 01:50:01,187
Speaker 18: own concussions. So they're thinking about what other pathways for

2079
01:50:01,427 --> 01:50:04,067
Speaker 18: their their son or for their daughter as well. So

2080
01:50:04,627 --> 01:50:06,827
Speaker 18: I mean, we've got it. We've got to to make

2081
01:50:06,907 --> 01:50:09,627
Speaker 18: and focus on the safety of our game. So some

2082
01:50:09,787 --> 01:50:13,387
Speaker 18: key thing areas there so and it really is. So

2083
01:50:13,467 --> 01:50:15,427
Speaker 18: we just got to continue to think about some of those.

2084
01:50:15,587 --> 01:50:21,307
Speaker 18: I think a lot more I suppose ways to ensure

2085
01:50:21,347 --> 01:50:25,027
Speaker 18: that we can have more about Pacific. We have the

2086
01:50:25,027 --> 01:50:29,627
Speaker 18: biggest specific population here in New Zealand and particularly in Auckland,

2087
01:50:30,067 --> 01:50:32,947
Speaker 18: So how do we really encourage to courage our numbers

2088
01:50:33,147 --> 01:50:35,507
Speaker 18: to continue to play the game. Because you're right, there

2089
01:50:35,547 --> 01:50:40,027
Speaker 18: are so many other laws to other codes and other sports.

2090
01:50:40,347 --> 01:50:42,547
Speaker 18: But how do we continue so that Pacific continues to

2091
01:50:42,587 --> 01:50:44,947
Speaker 18: add to the legacy of New Zealand rugby.

2092
01:50:45,347 --> 01:50:48,347
Speaker 2: It's great to have the Pacific A Rugby Council formalized

2093
01:50:48,387 --> 01:50:51,667
Speaker 2: as representing the interests of Pacifica Rugby in New Zealand

2094
01:50:51,707 --> 01:50:54,427
Speaker 2: at all levels of the game. It's a wonderful piece

2095
01:50:54,467 --> 01:50:57,387
Speaker 2: of news just before Christmas. Ronnie, thank you so much

2096
01:50:57,427 --> 01:50:58,987
Speaker 2: for joining us today. All the best to you and

2097
01:50:59,027 --> 01:51:01,227
Speaker 2: your family for a RESTful holiday season.

2098
01:51:01,867 --> 01:51:03,587
Speaker 18: Thanks finally, really appreciate it to you.

2099
01:51:03,667 --> 01:51:05,667
Speaker 2: Thanks so much now, thank you for joining us, Ronnie.

2100
01:51:05,667 --> 01:51:08,827
Speaker 2: Ironic Clarke so New Zealand Rugby voting members this week

2101
01:51:08,827 --> 01:51:11,907
Speaker 2: approving the addition of the New Zealand Pacifica Rugby Council

2102
01:51:12,267 --> 01:51:16,427
Speaker 2: as an affiliated body of New Zealand Rugby. What are

2103
01:51:16,507 --> 01:51:19,027
Speaker 2: we coming up? Twenty two to three We will go

2104
01:51:19,107 --> 01:51:22,347
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Speaker 1: eighty weekends forward with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunner Homes

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home Milder news Talk Baby, It's

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Speaker 1: time for a spawning chance thanks to TV.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is eighteen to three. Pretty simple concept. Really,

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Speaker 2: Jake is going to join me on the air in

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Speaker 2: just a second. I'm going to give Jake three options short,

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Speaker 2: evans and long. He's going to choose one. We'll place

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Speaker 2: a one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet if it

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Speaker 2: happens the outcome that is, he'll take the winnings. Good

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Speaker 2: I Jake, how are you mate?

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Speaker 14: By me?

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Speaker 8: I'm good?

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Speaker 18: How are you very good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 9: Mate?

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Speaker 2: You understand the concept. I'll give you three options, you

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Speaker 2: choose one.

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Speaker 18: Oh simple concept. Yep, got it.

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Speaker 2: I thought by the hesitation you you hadn't quite grasped it.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you have all right, mate, here we go

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Speaker 2: short the is it too late to save the season special?

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Speaker 2: It's Premier League Liverpool against Brighton Liverpool. To win that game,

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Speaker 2: it's paying a dollars sixty eight you would win one

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Speaker 2: hundred and two dollars. That is your short, Evans. The

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Speaker 2: just in time to save the season special breakers Basketball

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Speaker 2: they take on Southeast Melbourne Phoenix tonight. The bet is

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Speaker 2: the margin. The breaker is to win by one to ten.

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Speaker 2: It's paying four dollars forty. You would win five hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten dollars. That is your evens Okay, yep, and

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Speaker 2: long back to the Premier League the could this be

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Speaker 2: the day they ruin their season special Arsenal against Wolverhampton Wanderers.

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Speaker 2: Wolverhampton Wanderers to win, it's paying sixteen dollars you would

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Speaker 2: win two thousand, two hundred and fifty. So Liverpool to

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Speaker 2: beat Brighton to win one hundred and two. The breaker

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Speaker 2: is to beat Southeast Melbourne by one to ten to

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Speaker 2: win five hundred and ten or Wolves to beat Arsenal

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Speaker 2: to win two two hundred and fifty dollars. Which one

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Speaker 2: do you like?

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Speaker 18: Well, not much of a footballer, so I'm going to

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Speaker 18: go to Breakers.

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Speaker 8: Go on.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a good bet that I was looking at

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Speaker 2: it thinking that feels good to me too. So the

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Speaker 2: Breakers to beat the Southeast Melbourne Phoenix tonight by one

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Speaker 2: to ten. You would pocket five hundred and ten dollars if.

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Speaker 9: They do that, And that would be so useful right now.

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Speaker 2: Or at any time, Jake, but particularly right now, mate,

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Speaker 2: particularly right now, good Man, good Man, Hey, hold there,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to make sure he's got all your details.

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Speaker 2: We'll place the bet. Let's hope the Breakers win by

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Speaker 2: one to ten for their sake and for yours, you'd

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Speaker 2: win five hundred and ten dollars. We'll do it all

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Speaker 2: again next week for the last time this year. In fact,

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Speaker 2: thanks to our mates at the tab as always, please

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Speaker 2: bet responsibly. The Special Olympics National Summer Games kicked off

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Speaker 2: in christ Church on Wednesday. They run through until tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Over twelve hundred athletes, over five hundred coaches and eight

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Speaker 2: hundred volunteers, the biggest sports event this year in christ Church.

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Speaker 2: It's also the first ever event to take place at

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Speaker 2: the brand new Partacky or the Sports Center in christ yet.

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Speaker 2: So it's been quite a few days. CEO of Special

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Speaker 2: Olympics New Zealand is Franz Scoli who joins us now, Gay,

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Speaker 2: fran how has the week been?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 22: It has been a buzz here.

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Speaker 23: I tell you there is a lot going on.

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Speaker 22: We've got a lot of support and it's just.

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Speaker 23: A great vibe.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about how far and wide the athletes have

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Speaker 2: come from to come to christ Church for this event.

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Speaker 22: Yes, so as far as the Bay of Island and

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Speaker 22: all the way down in Nicago. So we've got forty

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Speaker 22: two clubs participating here at the National Summer.

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Speaker 2: Game and across a variety of different sports. Frank, can

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Speaker 2: you give us an insight into some of the sports

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Speaker 2: that these athletes are competing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Absolutely.

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Speaker 22: Our most popular sport is tenpin bowling, followed by swimming

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Speaker 22: and then one of our team sports basketball, but we

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Speaker 22: also do indoor bowls, botchy, equestrian golf, football and act.

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Speaker 2: This feels like quite a big logistical exercise for you

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Speaker 2: and your team. How much planning goes into pulling an

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Speaker 2: event like this together.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so we don't have a very big team, but

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Speaker 22: it's been about eighteen months worth of planning and we've

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Speaker 22: had to be really flexible in terms of PARTA cide building,

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Speaker 22: getting into do some testing for our swimming and basketball

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Speaker 22: that's being held here, but also our Healthy Athletes program,

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Speaker 22: So huge acknowledgment to the National Summer Games Events team,

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Speaker 22: but also our clubs and our volunteers that have allowed

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Speaker 22: us to get to where we are today.

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Speaker 2: Parto Ciorti is brand new in Christich, isn't it the

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Speaker 2: new sports center which has an aquatic part of it,

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Speaker 2: but also you know, courts, et cetera. Am I right

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Speaker 2: in saying friend that this is the first event that

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Speaker 2: has used part of Chiorti.

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Speaker 22: We are the first event, and our athletes have absolutely

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Speaker 22: loved it.

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Speaker 23: They love the fact that they are the.

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Speaker 22: First swimmers or basketball live participating at part.

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Speaker 5: Of What is it like there?

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Speaker 2: I had a chance to walk through earlier in the

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Speaker 2: year and it was sort of getting its finishing touches.

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Speaker 2: I was amazed by what's it been like, you know,

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Speaker 2: in a sense of actually being functional for an event

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Speaker 2: like this.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's actually really, really, really well done.

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Speaker 22: So we've worked really closely with christ Roup City Council

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Speaker 22: and it's just a hub of activity. The way in

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Speaker 22: which I laid it out, the entrances, the exits, how

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Speaker 22: to get from different floors to viewing platforms.

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Speaker 2: It's just phenomenal, amazing. Now I saw some really cool

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Speaker 2: social media of your opening ceremony at Wolfbrook Arena starring

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Speaker 2: the absolutely magnificent Jason Gunn the other night.

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Speaker 5: What was that like?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, five thousand people get into that arena. Five thousand, yes,

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Speaker 22: And I tell you what, our athletes absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 22: So we had yeah, as I said, five thousand people

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Speaker 22: in the arena, we had some dancing, we had some singing,

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Speaker 22: we had obviously our athletes marching out representing their clubs. Yes,

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Speaker 22: we had Jason Garn and we also had our amazing

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Speaker 22: MC our athletes from Canterbury.

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Speaker 23: Sorry Andrew Oswyn.

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Speaker 2: Amazing stuff. Now you mentioned before the healthy Athletes program.

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Speaker 2: I want to get a bit of more information on this.

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Speaker 2: What does that involve?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so Special Olympics really tries to wrap around our

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Speaker 22: wholder viewpoints.

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Speaker 23: So we want to look after our house.

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Speaker 22: So essentially what we're utilizing is we're bringing house to

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Speaker 22: our athletes. So we've got six feet so you can

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Speaker 22: come in and get your feet checked and then sure

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Speaker 22: you've got the right shoes and the right ethotics and

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Speaker 22: those sorts of things. We've also got our smiles activation,

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Speaker 22: so that's a dentists that are checking out the teeth.

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Speaker 22: We've got our hearing. We've also got our optometry so

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Speaker 22: all of our eyes and the amazing partners that we

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Speaker 22: have actually gifts to our athletes any prescription glasses so

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Speaker 22: just general were but also any competition glassware as well.

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Speaker 22: And then our last one is actually Strong Lines, which

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Speaker 22: is really important. And Scott Barret's did an amazing speech

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Speaker 22: at our opening ceremony and what really resonated around that

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Speaker 22: was he talked about nervous pressure and energy that he

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Speaker 22: feels before the game. And I've heard so many of

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Speaker 22: our accepts be like, just remember what Scott said, And

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Speaker 22: so that builds really nicely into that Strong Lines program

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Speaker 22: that we run as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely standing the Healthy Athletes program is that driven by

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Speaker 2: the fact that that typically, you know, some athletes with

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Speaker 2: intellectual disabilities don't complain if something's not quite right with

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Speaker 2: their teeth or their hearing all their side or they

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Speaker 2: don't get regular checks.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I would change the thumb to the majority. And

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Speaker 22: so that's why it's incredibly important to ensure that they

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Speaker 22: get the screening so they then get referral so when

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Speaker 22: they go back home, then they can follow up.

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Speaker 23: And get the necessary medical treatment that they need.

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Speaker 2: So as you're sitting or standing, chairing, clapping watching these athletes, friend,

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Speaker 2: it must be I don't know, it just must be

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Speaker 2: incredibly heartwarming for you, is it to watch this all happen?

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Speaker 2: And you know, to have to beat the head of

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Speaker 2: an organization that makes something like this come together in

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Speaker 2: such impressive fashion.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I was in tears this morning, and so I

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Speaker 22: had a lot of athletes giving me hugs and high

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Speaker 22: fives and telling me it was okay, and I had

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Speaker 22: to explain to them that it was happy tears.

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Speaker 23: We've got an employee with Special.

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Speaker 22: Olympics, Mark, whose son Adam actually participates in there, and

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Speaker 22: we are following his story at the moment. But to

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Speaker 22: sum it up, Adams just started swimming. And when Adam

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Speaker 22: first started swimming, Mark, his dad needed to get into

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Speaker 22: the pool with him to help build the confidence. He

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Speaker 22: turned around before to Mark and said, Dad, I've got

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Speaker 22: this as he walked through the marshaling area and out onto.

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Speaker 23: The swimming platform to race.

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Speaker 22: It was just amazing and it's that confidence field that

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Speaker 22: we just cannot take for granted, and it's just one

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Speaker 22: of the key elements that sports can bring to anybody.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised for a few misty eyes for

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Speaker 2: prickly Ey's when it happened, and just one example of it.

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Speaker 2: Fran And I know it's a busy time, as I've

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Speaker 2: said across the weekend, you wrap up on Sunday. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's it's just an amazing event and I'm so pleased

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Speaker 2: we've had the chance to chat to you about it.

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Speaker 2: All the best for the rest of the weekend and

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Speaker 2: congrats to you and your team for pulling this together.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much, No, thank you. Fran Franzcoli.

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Speaker 2: There she is the CEO of Special Olympics New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: A quite extraordinary event going on in christ Church, the

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Speaker 2: Special Olympics National Summer Games. Nine to three New Stalks.

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Speaker 1: Heb analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting

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Speaker 1: World Weekend Sport with Jason Hie They're call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty eight News Talks.

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Speaker 2: MB sixty three. Well weekend Sports coming on extremely quickly.

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Speaker 2: I must say today, thank you so much for tuning in,

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Speaker 2: for listening in, for contributing to the show, and just

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Speaker 2: a quick word about tomorrow the Ashes straight after midday,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Agg and you're going to join us, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: of a basketball, some more cricket, try and get you

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Speaker 2: inside the black Caps camp. What else have we got

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Speaker 2: for you from football? And oh, that's right, the All

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Speaker 2: Whites tickets? Yes, if you're interested in following the All

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Speaker 2: Whites at the World Cup next year in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, even if you're just thinking about the

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Speaker 2: possibility you're getting up to the US to watch it,

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Speaker 2: then please tune it after two tomorrow. We'll have as

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Speaker 2: much information for you on that as we possibly can.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Annie McDonald for producing us. Always off the

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Speaker 2: back of a long day at Chasing the Fox. Good

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Speaker 2: to have your backing up today. Mate. What's our exit song?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Piney, I know you do you do the birthdays

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Speaker 21: at the start, but I figured I'd go for one

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Speaker 21: more birthday. Amy Lee obviously lead singer of Evan Essence.

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Speaker 21: I don't know her age because you never you never

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Speaker 21: meant to ask a woman her age, but it's her

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Speaker 21: birthday today, so I've got Bring Me to Life by

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Speaker 21: Evan Insence to celebrate her birthday.

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Speaker 2: It's a very good choice, A very good choice. Thanks Mite.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your afternoon, See tomorrow, See tomorrow, Funks. I'm a

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Speaker 2: duck this time. I can't believe I'm gonna says, come

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Speaker 2: to the dock to it, not.

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Speaker 14: To eathing for.

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Speaker 24: Here, take me go, wait me can't wait, job, wake

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Speaker 24: me way jo, I can't wait.

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