1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Another crack. Speaking of Australia, another crack for the All Blacks. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: This weekend, we've got the first of the Blender's low 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: tests in Sydney tomorrow afternoon. Will Jordan with us. Good morning, morning, Mike. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: How are you. 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm very well, indeed, mate, talk us through the last 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: couple of days, the trip back from Africa and this 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: this week off. What have you done with it? 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a pretty big tour to Africa, 9 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: obviously a couple of big games for us over here. 10 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: So I think we got back to christ Shirt kind 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: of Tuesday morning. So I was a pretty quiet first 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: half of the week, just sort of recovering both mentally 13 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: and physically. Yeah, good to spend some time with Stanley. 14 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: My brother was back from the UK, so good to 15 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: connect with him for a little bit. But yeah, I 16 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: think the whole sense month of the group was that 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: we're very excited to get back in camp and get 18 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: stuck in this week. So now good to be back 19 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: in camp with the boys, and it's been a good 20 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: few days in Sydney. 21 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: And what about the camp this week and what you've 22 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: done and what the result has been. 23 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just trying to take the good part 24 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: of our game from the two tests in Africa and 25 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: build on those and just be more consistent with it. 26 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: I think, particularly round there, we were quite happy with 27 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: the way we're able to manipulate the Africans a little bit, 28 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: and so we had some good shape here. I think 29 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: also just adjusting to the way that Oddi's play. It's 30 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: obviously stylistically a little bit different around how they defend 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: with PEPs, a bit more of a push team rather 32 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: than in your face line speed and the threats that brings. 33 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: So a little bit of a focus on us around 34 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: a game. But also yeah, just getting used to a 35 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: different style and a different challenge. 36 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: And what about you personally, I mean, last time we 37 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: had you on the program, you're about to be back. 38 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: You had your shoulder, your surgery, all that sort of thing. 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Have you come through that well? Are you're feeling good? 40 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, the shoulders feeling really good, which has been pleasing. 41 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: I guess for me, I've sort of been back for 42 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: well four or five games now, sort of probably yeah, 43 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: I guess over the first few weeks I still find 44 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: my feet a little bit around, a bit of timing 45 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. So I guess the feeling 46 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: for myself around. Yeah, I had a few decent reps 47 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: in some game time, so time to start really hitting 48 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: my straps, I guess, much like the rest of the team, 49 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: we're sort of past the halfway point of the season now, 50 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: so yeah, looking to personally be more inferential when I 51 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: get to the team, looking to start getting some results 52 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: in the bad now. 53 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I know you'll be diplomatic about this, but Australia of course, 54 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: and not South Africa, so you've got to be feeling 55 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: reasonably good about that. 56 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean for us, there's always like we know 57 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: how important the Biddle's low cupp is, so I think 58 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: within that that provides the naught edge and energy amongst 59 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: the group, Like it's a cup we hold pretty daily 60 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: to our hearts, so the thought of losing it sitting 61 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: provides plenty of fear and the thing to find out 62 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: and tis footy if you're not right on your game 63 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: and you allow teams to kind of get into a 64 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: bit of a flow and get some self belief, which 65 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: the Aussies can do within I can quickly turn into 66 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: a tough night. So yeah, for us, it's about Yeah, 67 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: it's maintaining or even listing on our intensity from over 68 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: and over in Africa and making sure, yeah we're able 69 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: to kind of put them on the back foot to 70 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: start and then play a game. 71 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: And what's been the talk within the team about the 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: season so far? You lost to Argentina, a couple of 73 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: losses to South Africa. Where are you guys at at 74 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: the stage of the season. Are you in any way, 75 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: shape or form feeling the pressure? 76 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean to start off, you're always feeling the 77 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: pressure a little bit, like you know how much support 78 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: we have back home and how much the yeah use 79 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: on public once your becks to do well, so you're 80 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: always mindful of that, and yeah, trying to do you abyst 81 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 2: to make them proud of you. I think in terms 82 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: of where we're at, like the lost Argentina at home 83 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: is certainly very disappointing, and similarly the two losses to Africa, 84 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: particularly because we gave ourselves a good chance to win 85 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: in all three games and then fell away in the 86 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: last twenty heard a bit. I guess yeah, from a 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: still of a lightning point of view, we felt like 88 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: against Africa we played some pretty good rugby. Like I 89 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: touched on before, I think with our attack, we're able 90 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: to find some space against the rush to finch to 91 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: rush defence, which would struggle with a little bit in 92 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: the past, and defensively at times are pretty good. Probably 93 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: let ourselves down a little bit on the discipline front, 94 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: So probably someone where I touched on personally, like, yeah, 95 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: we're halfway through the season now, so we've had enough 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: time to you to sort of build some combinations, work 97 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: through a bit of a new style of player under Razor, 98 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: and yeah, I think it's just time to go out 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: there and yeah, do it for eighty minutes and start 100 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: getting some results backing up. 101 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to ask you about that. How you're 102 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: finding Razor, I mean, giving your experience compared to some 103 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: of the others and the team who haven't worked under him, 104 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Are they generally, you know, feeling good about what he's 105 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: about and what he brings. 106 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think there's always the key 107 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: things just to kind of get to know each other 108 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: as people and understand what makes people taken. Yeah, what's 109 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: going to be able to get people at their best? 110 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: And that's what Razor has always been messive on around 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: kind of man management and really understanding his players. So 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: I guess myself, I already had pretty good relationship with them, 113 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: so I've enjoyed the combos that we've had. And yeah, 114 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: I think just from a fourteenth point of view, it 115 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: just takes time to build that. Like I say, I 116 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: think everyone's pretty excited about where we can kind of 117 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: get to and this kind of foundations that we've got, 118 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: I guess just about putting them all together. And I 119 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: think that's starting to build, and guys who have maybe 120 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: had less experienced the Razor and Scottie and the likes 121 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: are starting to build those connections. So that's gonna be 122 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: crucial for us moving forward. And hopefully, Yeah, wrong the 123 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: way to doing that. 124 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: You check the forecast at all, does it matter? 125 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have kicked the forecast looking pretty sunny this week. 126 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah we've had yeah, good three or four days a 127 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: week to hear. It's certainly been pretty hot. So the 128 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: boys have had a good sweet on three forty five 129 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: kickoff here, so yeah, you'd expect it to be pretty hot. 130 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: Running footy, both teams like to use the ball and 131 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: plays so personally as now so ide Beck that's pretty 132 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: exciting and there's a team too. Hopefully we'll be have 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: plaid a decent tempo, get some fatigue into the game, 134 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: and yeah, be able to show our skills. So I'd 135 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: be pretty excited. Come Yeah, four o'clock says they. 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Good on you. Yeah, well, make appreciate it very much, 137 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: will Jordan? Who's whin he is this four o'clock? 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