WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 23 August 2026 0:00:06.667 --> 0:00:10.427 You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 0:00:10.707 --> 0:00:11.747 from us Talks EDB. 0:00:13.867 --> 0:00:16.147 The only place for the big. 0:00:15.987 --> 0:00:21.787 Names, the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations. 0:00:21.867 --> 0:00:24.747 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason. 0:00:24.467 --> 0:00:27.867 Pine and the Uniq seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition on 0:00:27.907 --> 0:00:30.147 Youth Talks EDB, your home of sport. 0:00:30.867 --> 0:00:34.107 Hello there, Cure, good afternoon, a very good afternoon. Welcome 0:00:34.147 --> 0:00:37.787 in to Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB, August twenty third. 0:00:37.867 --> 0:00:40.227 I'm Jason Pine. The show is produced by Any McDonald. 0:00:40.667 --> 0:00:42.787 We're here till three. How good was that? 0:00:46.707 --> 0:00:48.147 All hard from. 0:00:47.947 --> 0:00:51.707 The yor Blacks? Are you an any down? Now that 0:00:51.827 --> 0:00:56.827 this team is back head world? Right be? They climb 0:00:56.947 --> 0:00:58.267 back to the top of the world. 0:00:59.067 --> 0:01:02.507 They climbed to one mill up in the greatest rivalry 0:01:02.627 --> 0:01:08.267 series and pride a massive s through the hearts of 0:01:08.347 --> 0:01:13.827 the spring Box spiritualone All Blacks Winners thirty three sixteen. 0:01:13.547 --> 0:01:16.947 One of the all time great All Blacks performances, particularly 0:01:17.267 --> 0:01:20.507 away from home, particularly in the second half. Five tries 0:01:20.547 --> 0:01:23.747 to one the All Blacks biggest ever win at Alice 0:01:23.827 --> 0:01:28.667 Park and a statement to start this highly anticipated series. 0:01:28.827 --> 0:01:31.467 All Blacks assistant coach Jason Ryan standing by the chat 0:01:31.467 --> 0:01:35.027 to us match commentator Elliott Smith after one. Plenty of 0:01:35.147 --> 0:01:37.627 post match reaction from inside the camp as well, but 0:01:37.787 --> 0:01:40.707 as always on the show, it is your feedback, your 0:01:40.747 --> 0:01:46.027 reaction that were after lines open immediately and all afternoon meantime. 0:01:46.067 --> 0:01:50.027 What's this I see? It's the NRL Ladder? What the 0:01:50.067 --> 0:01:53.387 warrior is at the top. After blitzing the rabbit Os 0:01:53.427 --> 0:01:55.827 forty five, twenty six and Sydney last night, head coach 0:01:56.227 --> 0:01:58.507 Andrew Webster on the show after two to break it 0:01:58.547 --> 0:02:02.627 down the sprint towards the finish line for top two 0:02:02.707 --> 0:02:05.867 spots is on. It's on and will cover off the 0:02:05.947 --> 0:02:09.587 Dutch grown pre Liam Lawson qualifying eighth for tomorrow morning's 0:02:09.667 --> 0:02:12.667 race in his return to the Red Bull team. Please 0:02:12.747 --> 0:02:15.587 join the show, especially if you haven't done it before. 0:02:16.027 --> 0:02:20.667 Want better day to become a first time caller. Oh 0:02:20.667 --> 0:02:23.147 eight hundred and eighty ten eighties at number send you 0:02:23.267 --> 0:02:25.787 text messages to nine two ninety two and emails to 0:02:25.867 --> 0:02:30.547 Jason at newstalksv dot Co dot NZ nine Past midday Here. 0:02:30.427 --> 0:02:34.427 One Matters in Sports Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and 0:02:34.507 --> 0:02:38.027 the Audi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition available at 0:02:38.027 --> 0:02:39.427 your local Audi dealership. 0:02:39.587 --> 0:02:43.627 News Talks env Savia takes it off the back Ardie Savia. 0:02:43.507 --> 0:02:46.507 Pops it up on the right world on it rightly, Horner. 0:02:46.867 --> 0:02:50.427 It's another for will and that might be enough. It 0:02:50.507 --> 0:02:52.387 might be enough for the All Blacks to win an 0:02:52.387 --> 0:02:52.947 hour's hot. 0:02:53.067 --> 0:02:56.107 Yes, certainly was All Blacks thirty three South Africa sixteen 0:02:56.187 --> 0:02:58.907 or Black's assistant coach Jason Ryan is with us on 0:02:58.947 --> 0:03:03.747 Weekend Sport Jace. Where does that sit among your most 0:03:03.747 --> 0:03:05.947 satisfying days with the All Blacks? 0:03:06.787 --> 0:03:07.227 Oh? 0:03:07.307 --> 0:03:08.347 Yeah, that's up there. 0:03:09.427 --> 0:03:14.187 Look, any any one you love it, but any test 0:03:14.227 --> 0:03:18.267 one in South Africa, especially Alice Park you love it 0:03:18.267 --> 0:03:22.267 even more. And we were under a massive amount of 0:03:22.307 --> 0:03:26.747 pressure at set piece and how we made the adjustments 0:03:26.747 --> 0:03:30.027 we needed to and came back with a ship tone 0:03:30.067 --> 0:03:32.787 of care and a whole lot of effort and belief 0:03:32.787 --> 0:03:35.747 in our game I think was pretty special. 0:03:36.627 --> 0:03:39.027 Can you give us an insight into the adjustments that 0:03:39.307 --> 0:03:41.187 you made that made the difference? 0:03:43.547 --> 0:03:45.747 Well, I think at scrum time, you know, there was 0:03:45.787 --> 0:03:47.907 one there that we missed a hit a little bit. 0:03:47.907 --> 0:03:50.147 They're getting a hit on us and potentially went a 0:03:50.147 --> 0:03:53.227 little bit early on us. We also, you know, we 0:03:53.307 --> 0:03:58.507 got rewarded just after halftime for them stepping left. You know, 0:03:58.547 --> 0:04:01.187 the whole thing around world rugby is you've got a 0:04:01.187 --> 0:04:04.467 scrum square. So we got one there that we probably deserved, 0:04:04.467 --> 0:04:08.547 and probably in hindsight, Easling grew hurt his neck, the 0:04:08.587 --> 0:04:12.387 group hurt his knee pretty bad early on in the 0:04:12.427 --> 0:04:14.507 start of the Test match, and we probably should have 0:04:15.427 --> 0:04:17.307 looked to hook him a little bit earlier because that 0:04:18.267 --> 0:04:20.667 he was sort of firing on one leg. So you 0:04:20.747 --> 0:04:25.667 sort of put those couple of things together, probably as 0:04:26.227 --> 0:04:28.227 the reflection of the adjustice we made and what we 0:04:28.267 --> 0:04:31.027 talked about at halftime around showing really good pictures. 0:04:31.867 --> 0:04:35.027 And then in the second half early South Africa is 0:04:35.067 --> 0:04:37.667 still putting you under huge pressure. You hold, you hold, 0:04:37.707 --> 0:04:40.467 and then you get a scrum penalty of your own 0:04:40.667 --> 0:04:43.267 under your own horns. How big a moment was that, 0:04:45.027 --> 0:04:45.227 you know. 0:04:45.267 --> 0:04:47.427 That's what it was a big moment, and that was 0:04:47.547 --> 0:04:50.027 reward to the adjustments we made. And as I say, 0:04:50.067 --> 0:04:53.347 it was for them stepping left, which is you know 0:04:54.347 --> 0:04:56.867 that that that did swing the momentum. And then then 0:04:56.907 --> 0:04:58.467 we got into a mall and we got a more 0:04:58.507 --> 0:05:00.187 penalty and then it was like, okay, we've got to 0:05:00.187 --> 0:05:02.907 put a momentum here, and and we we sort of 0:05:02.987 --> 0:05:06.027 kept the we kept the pressure on them a little. 0:05:05.827 --> 0:05:07.827 Bit and you know, got some reward for it. 0:05:07.907 --> 0:05:12.067 But yeah, a lot, massive, massive if it from the 0:05:12.067 --> 0:05:16.427 boys coming on. And I think we were showed that 0:05:16.427 --> 0:05:18.907 we're pretty flitt at the moment too, So I think 0:05:18.947 --> 0:05:20.707 that's pretty positive. 0:05:21.387 --> 0:05:25.867 Is effective scrummaging more about technique or physical strength? 0:05:28.467 --> 0:05:30.027 Oh that's a great question. 0:05:30.827 --> 0:05:33.667 Look the spring box like they are a Brett packed 0:05:34.107 --> 0:05:37.387 and when they get it right, they are very very 0:05:37.387 --> 0:05:41.747 hard to stop with their mass and how big they are. Right, technically, 0:05:42.387 --> 0:05:44.387 we could have been a little bit better tonight, but 0:05:44.427 --> 0:05:46.987 as I said, I'm proud that the boys made the 0:05:47.027 --> 0:05:51.747 adjustments scrums and it's matched as similar to twelve rounds 0:05:51.747 --> 0:05:54.667 of boxing. We're not going to win every round and 0:05:54.707 --> 0:05:57.827 tonight we didn't win every round, but we probably won 0:05:58.147 --> 0:06:01.347 a couple of rounds that that mattered, I guess, and 0:06:01.387 --> 0:06:03.267 we got rewarded for it. And to say the adjustice 0:06:03.267 --> 0:06:06.067 we made it our time. So pretty proud of the 0:06:06.067 --> 0:06:07.587 boys there. We've still got work to do. 0:06:07.987 --> 0:06:10.467 Yeah, well, I guess to use the boxing analogy you've 0:06:10.467 --> 0:06:13.507 got the points victory well and truly, Jase, how much 0:06:13.547 --> 0:06:17.467 of a tactic is inducing fatigue in your opposition? 0:06:19.667 --> 0:06:23.907 Yeah, when you hold the ball and bald phases, you know, 0:06:23.987 --> 0:06:27.467 and you and we trust our skill set, like we 0:06:27.467 --> 0:06:30.147 we threw a whole lot of osloads that probably weren't 0:06:30.147 --> 0:06:33.227 even on that did stick because the boys have been 0:06:33.267 --> 0:06:35.027 optimistic about how they want to play, which is what 0:06:35.107 --> 0:06:36.507 rends U driven right from the start. 0:06:36.547 --> 0:06:38.867 And when you do that, the fatigue does kicking. 0:06:38.947 --> 0:06:43.387 And and we I believe we found another couple of 0:06:43.427 --> 0:06:45.667 years in that last twintery, you know, and put the 0:06:45.667 --> 0:06:50.227 pressure on them, and we should be pretty satisfied with 0:06:50.267 --> 0:06:53.787 that part of the game, and how the leaders have 0:06:53.907 --> 0:06:56.507 been doing a lot of good work with Gilbert and 0:06:56.547 --> 0:07:01.027 ocre and just adapting to the pressure and just enjoying 0:07:01.067 --> 0:07:04.747 that and understanding that it's so tough over here, you know, 0:07:04.947 --> 0:07:07.907 one v two in the world and at Alice Park, 0:07:08.067 --> 0:07:11.267 like you just got to enjoy this and we will. 0:07:11.387 --> 0:07:14.307 But there's work to do tomorrow. 0:07:14.747 --> 0:07:19.307 Fabian Holland hercule in eighty minutes charge down Try. I 0:07:19.427 --> 0:07:22.227 had to stay on because of course, Josh Lord departed 0:07:22.227 --> 0:07:24.707 earlier than you would have hoped. Not bad for a 0:07:24.747 --> 0:07:26.507 bloke who hasn't played much rugby recently. 0:07:26.547 --> 0:07:30.627 Fabian Holland, Yeah, he's done a lot of work and 0:07:30.707 --> 0:07:32.947 conditioning and you know it was a big arm. He 0:07:32.987 --> 0:07:34.947 went to the well tonight. He had to dig a 0:07:34.987 --> 0:07:39.987 pretty big hole and keep digging it. So pretty satisfied 0:07:39.987 --> 0:07:42.187 Harry got through his work. So we'll have to look 0:07:42.227 --> 0:07:44.947 after him this week. I mean we're not you know, 0:07:45.107 --> 0:07:46.067 we don't need to get any. 0:07:45.947 --> 0:07:46.707 Sutter or stronger. 0:07:46.707 --> 0:07:48.387 And still we've got to keep the boys fresh now 0:07:48.467 --> 0:07:50.707 and I think that'll be a big part of the 0:07:50.747 --> 0:07:51.747 next couple of weeks. 0:07:52.027 --> 0:07:54.907 The last time you played South Africa, Jace, you joined 0:07:54.947 --> 0:07:57.307 me the day after you took my call. You answered 0:07:57.307 --> 0:08:00.627 some pretty tough questions. Thirteen of the twenty three who 0:08:00.707 --> 0:08:03.827 played that night played again today. Was that forty three 0:08:04.027 --> 0:08:06.187 ten talked about at all or do you think it 0:08:06.347 --> 0:08:10.107 privately drove any individuals? 0:08:10.627 --> 0:08:11.027 It wasn't. 0:08:11.107 --> 0:08:13.587 It definitely wasn't talked about, but I guess you know, 0:08:13.867 --> 0:08:17.147 some of those things are always in. And then there's 0:08:17.147 --> 0:08:18.947 a couple of set piece moments and said we sit 0:08:19.067 --> 0:08:21.107 on the start of this call Ja slight. I was like, 0:08:21.187 --> 0:08:23.187 oh ship, here we go again type thing. But we, 0:08:23.467 --> 0:08:25.867 as I said, we made the adjustments. We showed a 0:08:25.907 --> 0:08:28.787 little bit more resilience under pressure, a little bit more 0:08:28.787 --> 0:08:32.947 composed and already made some really good decisions at key times. 0:08:33.867 --> 0:08:35.907 Does that at the end of the game, Does Alice 0:08:35.947 --> 0:08:38.107 Park ever get old? Looks amazing? 0:08:38.987 --> 0:08:44.267 Oh she's standing out here in the little now and yeah, 0:08:45.587 --> 0:08:48.707 you just got to enjoy got and I'm going to so. 0:08:49.267 --> 0:08:51.067 But we're not work to do with by no means 0:08:51.067 --> 0:08:53.867 satisflight and and but we will enjoy this. 0:08:53.987 --> 0:08:56.707 We well, you deserve to a lot of very happy 0:08:56.747 --> 0:08:58.947 keys early this morning watching that Jas. Thanks for taking 0:08:58.987 --> 0:09:01.067 the call mate, all the best as you move forward. 0:09:02.147 --> 0:09:02.587 No worries. 0:09:02.627 --> 0:09:06.107 I just say, I really appreciate that the support that 0:09:06.187 --> 0:09:09.107 we're I've had from home this week as this test 0:09:09.147 --> 0:09:12.347 match is built, and the support that we've had with 0:09:12.427 --> 0:09:14.227 the All Black supporters and the Yoners that are in 0:09:14.267 --> 0:09:16.627 the crowd today is not often you hear them that 0:09:16.747 --> 0:09:20.387 the All Black chanted his chant in Ellis Park, so. 0:09:21.987 --> 0:09:22.667 Pretty special. 0:09:22.867 --> 0:09:26.307 So thanks good man, good man, Jason, enjoy your evening, Jason, 0:09:26.387 --> 0:09:29.947 Ryan there out of Johannesburg, where the All Blacks have 0:09:29.947 --> 0:09:32.427 beaten South Africa thirty three points to sixteen. All right 0:09:32.427 --> 0:09:34.107 lines open on the All Blacks are starting to come 0:09:34.107 --> 0:09:36.547 and now jump on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:09:36.707 --> 0:09:39.867 without doubt, one of the great All Blacks performances in 0:09:39.947 --> 0:09:42.347 recent times, the best I reckon since the last Rugby 0:09:42.427 --> 0:09:45.227 World Cup and probably the best since our went over 0:09:45.307 --> 0:09:48.947 Ireland in the twenty twenty three quarter final. Well worth 0:09:48.987 --> 0:09:52.907 the early alarm, resilience and grit and equal measure, a 0:09:53.027 --> 0:09:56.547 triumph of soaking up pressure, taking some hits and refusing 0:09:56.587 --> 0:09:59.227 to buck or let alone break. That fifteen minutes after 0:09:59.267 --> 0:10:02.347 halftime may well be one of the most significant periods 0:10:02.347 --> 0:10:05.827 of All Blacks rugby in this entire World Cup cycle, 0:10:06.867 --> 0:10:11.107 absorbing pressurewithstanding wave after wave of attack, and emerging unscathed. 0:10:11.547 --> 0:10:15.707 South Africa average five and a half points every time 0:10:15.787 --> 0:10:18.747 they entered the opposition twenty two in the last couple 0:10:18.787 --> 0:10:22.947 of years. Today it was point nine points. That is 0:10:22.987 --> 0:10:27.427 an absolute triumph of taking punches and staying in the fight. 0:10:28.907 --> 0:10:33.907 Couple of players, Fabian Holland immense Remember he didn't play 0:10:33.907 --> 0:10:36.347 any rugby at all between the twenty third of November 0:10:36.427 --> 0:10:39.667 and the twenty fourth of July, eight months out of 0:10:39.667 --> 0:10:44.947 the game with that shoulder injury eighty herculean minutes from him. 0:10:45.067 --> 0:10:49.267 Today on the Highvelt, Jordy Barrett fast becoming the All 0:10:49.307 --> 0:10:53.187 Black's most important player. Two massive pieces of defense to Deny, 0:10:53.227 --> 0:10:57.507 Malcolm Marx and Jasper Visa. He made fifteen tackles all up, 0:10:57.587 --> 0:11:00.227 that's more than anybody else on the field, and affected 0:11:00.227 --> 0:11:03.747 five turnovers again a game high. Jordy Barrett is now 0:11:04.907 --> 0:11:07.507 the rock upon which the All Blacks backline is built 0:11:08.227 --> 0:11:09.787 and the impact the All Blacks guy from their front 0:11:09.827 --> 0:11:13.667 row reserves also worth mentioning. George Bauer Fletcher Newell really 0:11:13.987 --> 0:11:18.547 influential off the bench today. When David Kirk announced a 0:11:18.627 --> 0:11:21.787 coaching change at the start of the year, he talked 0:11:21.787 --> 0:11:27.067 about trajectory. At that time it was a downward trajectory. 0:11:27.627 --> 0:11:30.627 Since Dave Rennie took over, it has been trending upwards 0:11:30.867 --> 0:11:36.667 and today it's spiked skywards. He has transformed this team 0:11:36.707 --> 0:11:40.587 since taking over and has them back on track for 0:11:40.667 --> 0:11:44.307 the World Cup next year. Seven wins from seven with obvious, intentional, 0:11:44.947 --> 0:11:48.587 noticeable crucial improvements in that time. Dave Rennie, by the way, 0:11:48.627 --> 0:11:51.667 has now coached internationally against South Africa five times and 0:11:51.707 --> 0:11:55.227 won four of them. Rugby Australia's decision to get rid 0:11:55.267 --> 0:11:57.827 of him in favor of Eddie Jones may well go 0:11:57.907 --> 0:12:01.747 down as one of the great fumbles in rugby history. 0:12:02.627 --> 0:12:05.507 Just a word on the ref Matthew Carley. Were quick 0:12:05.507 --> 0:12:08.147 to criticize the efforts up but he was excellent, remained 0:12:08.147 --> 0:12:11.707 calm and composed in that cauldron. Overalled the TMO twice. 0:12:11.707 --> 0:12:13.867 You love to see it. More of that. More of 0:12:13.867 --> 0:12:19.587 that please referees who trust their instincts. The respect that 0:12:19.627 --> 0:12:23.187 South African crowds show the Haker tells you an awful 0:12:23.227 --> 0:12:26.107 lot about them. Rasci Erasmus even took to social media 0:12:26.227 --> 0:12:29.507 ahead of the game and asked the nation's fans to 0:12:29.587 --> 0:12:32.987 stay silent during the harker, and they did while English 0:12:33.027 --> 0:12:35.987 and Australian fans try and drown it out with swing, 0:12:36.067 --> 0:12:39.987 low seat chariot and walsing Matilda. The silence around that 0:12:40.107 --> 0:12:44.027 magnificent arena during the Harker shows you why this rivalry 0:12:44.227 --> 0:12:49.707 is the greatest one. There is massive mutual respect between 0:12:49.747 --> 0:12:51.987 these two teams and their two sets of fans who 0:12:52.067 --> 0:12:55.987 love their rugby but can absolutely appreciate the greatness of 0:12:55.987 --> 0:12:58.947 the other. And the history that has led us to 0:12:58.987 --> 0:13:01.467 this point. Just before we go to the lines, I 0:13:01.547 --> 0:13:03.987 said yesterday we're about to find out how far apart 0:13:03.987 --> 0:13:05.987 the All Blacks and the spring Box are on that 0:13:06.027 --> 0:13:09.947 evident The answer is not very far apart at all. 0:13:10.187 --> 0:13:11.907 And yes there are work ons for the All Blacks. 0:13:12.427 --> 0:13:15.387 Fourteen penalties can say that that's too many. They still 0:13:15.427 --> 0:13:17.307 had a few problems under the high ball, and South 0:13:17.347 --> 0:13:19.827 Africa will come back with a vengeance in Cape Town. 0:13:19.947 --> 0:13:24.667 But for today, for right now, enjoy it because that 0:13:24.787 --> 0:13:28.987 display has most certainly pumped a fair degree of positivity 0:13:29.547 --> 0:13:32.867 into even the most pessimistic of All Blacks fans and 0:13:33.507 --> 0:13:37.547 given this team enormous belief that on any given day 0:13:38.547 --> 0:13:39.787 they can beat the spring Box. 0:13:40.187 --> 0:13:41.187 Weekends for it. 0:13:41.627 --> 0:13:44.867 Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Brent, good afternoon. 0:13:45.067 --> 0:13:49.667 Good afternoon, mate. Yeah, everything you said perfect. I'm kind 0:13:49.667 --> 0:13:52.467 of shocked because I had any money on the other team, 0:13:52.507 --> 0:13:55.067 which I don't normally do, which was really annoying, but 0:13:55.187 --> 0:13:57.587 that's life. I put the Shield challenge the other day. 0:13:57.587 --> 0:14:02.347 It's pretty quick to see one day of rantly Shield 0:14:02.427 --> 0:14:04.947 Challenge and talk talk talk, and all of a sudden 0:14:04.987 --> 0:14:08.347 we have a great and everything's changed. He's talking about 0:14:08.347 --> 0:14:13.107 the shield. Yeah. I was really impressed with Sultine the referee, mate, 0:14:13.267 --> 0:14:15.507 is is what you said is bang on? That guy 0:14:15.707 --> 0:14:18.867 had everything sorted. I actually thought there was a chance 0:14:18.907 --> 0:14:20.667 there that Africa could have got back in the game. 0:14:20.747 --> 0:14:23.987 Is that Ardie Selvie when they went upstairs. 0:14:25.027 --> 0:14:25.307 Yep. 0:14:25.427 --> 0:14:29.427 And for that I thought, on my back, pocket's going 0:14:29.427 --> 0:14:31.547 to get falled again. We're right, And then it changed 0:14:31.587 --> 0:14:34.587 was just I didn't care, It's just life. But yeah, 0:14:34.587 --> 0:14:38.107 I was really impressed. It's a lot of guys that 0:14:38.187 --> 0:14:40.027 I talked to. You said, Oh those cheese followers are 0:14:40.027 --> 0:14:41.627 no good. I tell you every one of those cheers 0:14:41.667 --> 0:14:45.227 guys stood up to pire you mate, And so I 0:14:45.307 --> 0:14:47.907 feel very good about that side of it. Obviously my 0:14:47.947 --> 0:14:52.667 pocket but sad, but this life. Yeah, I thought the 0:14:52.867 --> 0:14:56.987 captain Savia man, he was a massive and Jacobson like 0:14:57.187 --> 0:15:00.427 he's in nil bleats but for a reason and yeah 0:15:00.547 --> 0:15:03.827 and yeah pops, but worry there. But I think, yeah, 0:15:03.827 --> 0:15:06.867 we we I see that we would one. I'll be 0:15:06.907 --> 0:15:08.427 real happy now. If we lose the rest of them, 0:15:08.467 --> 0:15:10.587 I'll still be happy. But this is a chance for 0:15:10.667 --> 0:15:13.467 them to go on and have a series wonder if 0:15:13.467 --> 0:15:16.147 they've got a you know, I mean, they just need 0:15:16.707 --> 0:15:18.587 one more test out of the next three, and I 0:15:18.747 --> 0:15:20.907 think they've got a pretty good chance of doing it, 0:15:20.947 --> 0:15:22.947 and if they do, it's a huge result and a 0:15:22.987 --> 0:15:23.707 big shot for me. 0:15:24.507 --> 0:15:26.187 Good on your bread, well, apart from the fact you 0:15:26.227 --> 0:15:29.027 didn't win any money, good to hear you that you 0:15:29.027 --> 0:15:31.707 are pleased about the outcome of the game and the 0:15:31.707 --> 0:15:33.507 performance from the All Blacks. I mean, you're reeled off 0:15:33.507 --> 0:15:35.587 a couple of names there, and it's one of those 0:15:35.907 --> 0:15:38.107 where you start to name players who stood out and 0:15:38.147 --> 0:15:40.267 then you end up going through the whole team because 0:15:40.307 --> 0:15:42.867 they were all very, very good for the most part. 0:15:43.547 --> 0:15:45.787 A lot of a lot of guys had really big games. 0:15:45.827 --> 0:15:48.107 Just on the Artista Vit call. He was asked about 0:15:48.147 --> 0:15:52.467 that afterwards when they went upstairs to check whether it 0:15:52.547 --> 0:15:56.187 was shoulder to head contact, and he admitted afterwards he 0:15:56.227 --> 0:16:00.427 said he said, I was worried because whenever it goes upstairs, 0:16:00.427 --> 0:16:04.307 you are worried. But then Dave Rennie jumped in and 0:16:04.427 --> 0:16:09.227 said it's obvious that it's shoulder to shoulder because the 0:16:09.387 --> 0:16:15.627 head went forward towards Ardie. If it had been shouldered ahead, 0:16:16.027 --> 0:16:19.787 the head would have whipped backwards away from Ardie. It 0:16:19.907 --> 0:16:23.787 is simple physics, simple physics. And did you hear that, Tmo? 0:16:24.427 --> 0:16:26.947 He was doing all I don't know it was. He 0:16:27.067 --> 0:16:31.627 was doing all he could to get Artie Zavia yellow carded. 0:16:31.907 --> 0:16:35.827 It felt to me, but good on Matthew Carley. I mean, 0:16:35.867 --> 0:16:37.787 he probably needed the police escort to get out of 0:16:37.827 --> 0:16:40.907 the place. But he made the right decision. That was 0:16:41.027 --> 0:16:45.747 not shouldered a head contact. It was shouldered to shoulder 0:16:46.187 --> 0:16:49.707 and as he hit his shoulder, his head goes forward 0:16:50.107 --> 0:16:53.027 towards Ardie and that's when it makes contact with the shoulder, 0:16:53.067 --> 0:16:56.587 of makes contact with Artie's shoulder because it was shouldered 0:16:56.587 --> 0:17:02.907 to shoulder. Absolutely bang on the right decision. Richard, Hi, mate, 0:17:03.027 --> 0:17:05.787 how are we doing? I'm doing well, Richard, I'm doing well. 0:17:05.787 --> 0:17:07.027 What's good you mate? 0:17:07.947 --> 0:17:10.787 Look what stood out to me was in contrast to 0:17:11.307 --> 0:17:15.067 when we had Old Razor there for the last three tests. 0:17:15.107 --> 0:17:18.467 Now we know what our game plan is, Robinson, we 0:17:18.547 --> 0:17:21.787 had no idea, but these guys got at Drillden and 0:17:21.827 --> 0:17:26.787 even under some real try and sucstances today they So 0:17:26.907 --> 0:17:30.387 that was really good. I was quite impressed with that, 0:17:30.507 --> 0:17:33.787 and it's a relief to see, where as David Kirk 0:17:33.827 --> 0:17:38.507 would say, on the right trajectory. Now, so I thought 0:17:38.507 --> 0:17:40.267 we were quite lucky in the game that they were 0:17:40.267 --> 0:17:43.347 missfiring badly in the first half, because I couldn't have 0:17:43.347 --> 0:17:46.747 honestly said they looked under pressure. They were just off 0:17:46.787 --> 0:17:49.147 their game, I think South Africa. But in the second 0:17:49.187 --> 0:17:52.067 half we said well, okay, if you're going to play badly, 0:17:52.107 --> 0:17:54.827 we'll put you to the sword, and we did so. 0:17:57.707 --> 0:17:59.147 I think they were the better side in the first half, 0:17:59.187 --> 0:18:01.787 so they forget I think they were the best. They 0:18:01.867 --> 0:18:06.147 certainly outstrommed us. We gave away some scrum penalties. That 0:18:06.347 --> 0:18:10.547 ten minutes before halftime, I think they were kind of 0:18:10.587 --> 0:18:14.547 coming for us and getting out of that was a 0:18:14.627 --> 0:18:16.987 thirteen twelve halftime deficit was actually a bit of a 0:18:17.067 --> 0:18:18.787 victory in itself. And then the ten minutes after the 0:18:18.787 --> 0:18:21.907 breakers I said before a pivotal So look, they were 0:18:21.907 --> 0:18:24.067 better than us, but we stayed in the field. Where 0:18:24.067 --> 0:18:26.307 As Jason Ryan said, you don't have to win every round. 0:18:27.027 --> 0:18:27.787 No, that's right. 0:18:27.827 --> 0:18:30.387 We were hanging in there by a fingernails and luckily 0:18:30.507 --> 0:18:33.627 they were strong enough to keep us in there. But 0:18:33.867 --> 0:18:39.027 I still think South Africa lost that by not converting 0:18:39.067 --> 0:18:43.067 anything in the first half, and they won't be as bad, 0:18:43.147 --> 0:18:46.827 I don't think next week, but I'm pretty sure the 0:18:46.947 --> 0:18:49.987 coaches will have that sewing up and buttoned up with 0:18:50.387 --> 0:18:53.227 a better performance. The only criticism I have with the 0:18:53.227 --> 0:18:57.027 All Blacks was that high ball was the strategy. 0:18:56.507 --> 0:18:57.307 Not to jump for it. 0:18:57.467 --> 0:19:05.747 What we were shocking, shocking on our own. 0:19:06.907 --> 0:19:12.507 Yeah, I just no, yeah, any criticism. 0:19:12.387 --> 0:19:14.347 No, well, I hear you, mate, And it's a work on, 0:19:14.427 --> 0:19:18.107 as they say, it's a work on. But yeah, and look, 0:19:18.187 --> 0:19:19.947 Cameroy guard kicked a lot from the base, didn't He 0:19:19.987 --> 0:19:22.467 clearly at tactic that didn't happen in the early test 0:19:22.507 --> 0:19:26.107 of the year France and Italy in particular. He didn't 0:19:26.187 --> 0:19:28.947 kick from the base often in those games. But today 0:19:28.987 --> 0:19:30.867 obviously they decided that. You know, if they're on their 0:19:30.907 --> 0:19:34.947 own twenty two, they'd clear they're very good in the air, 0:19:34.947 --> 0:19:36.747 aren't they? That they are very good in the air? 0:19:36.787 --> 0:19:42.667 VALLIMPSA is diffusing bombs like a like like a bomb diffuser. 0:19:42.707 --> 0:19:44.587 One of the guys gets paid to do that. He 0:19:44.707 --> 0:19:47.027 is incredible under the high ball. So that's a work on. 0:19:47.307 --> 0:19:49.827 It is a work on, And the thing about the 0:19:49.867 --> 0:19:53.587 series is that now these coaching teams have context. They'll 0:19:53.587 --> 0:19:57.587 now go to Cape Town. They'll review everything that happened 0:19:57.587 --> 0:20:00.347 in the eighty minutes today, and they'll set their stall 0:20:00.347 --> 0:20:04.947 out accordingly, number twelve to twenty six. Peter, hold there 0:20:04.947 --> 0:20:06.787 with you after this, speed Li there, if you want 0:20:06.787 --> 0:20:08.427 to jump aboard. Give us your thoughts on the All 0:20:08.427 --> 0:20:10.067 Blacks one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 0:20:10.467 --> 0:20:12.907 You call it how you see us on eight hundred 0:20:12.947 --> 0:20:16.627 and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and 0:20:16.707 --> 0:20:20.307 the Audi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition available at 0:20:20.347 --> 0:20:21.707 your local Audi dealership. 0:20:21.867 --> 0:20:22.707 News Talks head be. 0:20:23.507 --> 0:20:26.267 Roy got Assays's options from the floor, flins. 0:20:25.907 --> 0:20:29.267 It our right hand side and had to be Will 0:20:29.427 --> 0:20:32.707 Jordan gets the All Blacks on the board. 0:20:32.787 --> 0:20:34.707 He's fifty second a test. 0:20:34.627 --> 0:20:38.627 Level, unbelievably prolific. Will Jordan twelve thirty. I get a 0:20:38.707 --> 0:20:42.387 Jason Springbox have their bomb squad. Ama, Newell and Bauer 0:20:42.547 --> 0:20:46.547 are our mana squad. How good there's scrum turned the game? 0:20:46.587 --> 0:20:49.547 Good on your Devin and Jason. Don't forget Ruben Love's goalkicking. 0:20:49.547 --> 0:20:51.747 Fantastic again, says Tony. Yeah, it was very very good 0:20:51.747 --> 0:20:54.547 again wasn't he miss that? I think Will Jordan's tried 0:20:54.587 --> 0:20:56.307 the one we just heard there that was wide out. 0:20:56.307 --> 0:20:57.707 I think he missed that one but got the rest. 0:20:58.027 --> 0:20:59.547 It's a good point, Tony, Peter. 0:20:59.427 --> 0:21:01.507 High, Hey, how are you doing there? 0:21:01.987 --> 0:21:02.987 Very good? Thank you, Peter. 0:21:03.747 --> 0:21:07.347 Mike Adamson was tmos got as dude X inter national 0:21:07.387 --> 0:21:07.947 sevens player. 0:21:07.947 --> 0:21:09.147 I thought he would have had a better feel for 0:21:09.187 --> 0:21:10.347 the game, but hey, there you go. 0:21:11.987 --> 0:21:15.227 But what I think saw this morning was the rugby 0:21:15.347 --> 0:21:17.307 version of the the le ropodope. 0:21:18.507 --> 0:21:22.547 Yeah. I've seen that phrase use Peter by a couple 0:21:22.547 --> 0:21:26.747 of journalists and a couple of commentators. I mean, yeah, yeah, 0:21:27.147 --> 0:21:28.907 what do we do loull them into a false sense 0:21:28.947 --> 0:21:31.307 of security? Or they made them think they had us? 0:21:31.347 --> 0:21:31.747 I don't know. 0:21:32.427 --> 0:21:35.507 The books had us under pressure and every facet of 0:21:35.587 --> 0:21:37.267 the game in the first half except one, and that 0:21:37.307 --> 0:21:42.067 was a scoreboard. They weren't converting possession and position into points. 0:21:43.347 --> 0:21:45.587 And I think he had defensively Tanta Rumong and needs 0:21:45.587 --> 0:21:48.147 a big claud it because he obviously had the defensive 0:21:48.147 --> 0:21:52.027 structures working really really well. And then because they were 0:21:52.107 --> 0:21:54.467 putting the pressure on us, they're putting the pressure on themselves. 0:21:54.507 --> 0:21:56.787 And I think Hollyden's charged out earlier in the second 0:21:56.827 --> 0:21:58.467 half was just the catalyst. 0:21:58.587 --> 0:21:58.787 Really. 0:21:58.827 --> 0:22:01.427 It was just like, you know, hey, you know we've 0:22:01.467 --> 0:22:04.947 answered all your questions. Here are our questions. What's your response? 0:22:04.947 --> 0:22:05.867 And I just didn't have one. 0:22:06.147 --> 0:22:09.507 No, No, they didn't. And I saw it also mentioned 0:22:09.547 --> 0:22:12.067 and I'll ask Elliot Smith about this when I chated 0:22:12.067 --> 0:22:14.467 them after one. It feels as though, Peter, that if 0:22:14.507 --> 0:22:18.627 you match the spring Box physically, if you don't take 0:22:18.627 --> 0:22:20.467 a backward step, if you take some hits from them 0:22:20.467 --> 0:22:24.547 but give a couple back, they don't really have a 0:22:24.707 --> 0:22:27.027 heck of a lot else. That is probably understating things 0:22:27.067 --> 0:22:29.187 a little bit, because we know Tony Brown's a magnificent 0:22:29.467 --> 0:22:33.227 attack coach, but today it felt like that's all they had, 0:22:33.427 --> 0:22:36.707 the physicality and the robustness, and once we soaked that up, 0:22:36.827 --> 0:22:38.347 it was kind of our game in the second half. 0:22:39.187 --> 0:22:42.347 Yeah, they were trying to truly bully us off the pitch, 0:22:42.667 --> 0:22:45.427 and then you know that chargegown was the equivalent of 0:22:45.467 --> 0:22:47.227 giving the bully of blood nose and E didn't. 0:22:46.987 --> 0:22:47.707 Know what's after that. 0:22:49.187 --> 0:22:51.707 Love the analogies you're coming up with today, Peter, So 0:22:52.027 --> 0:22:53.907 how are you feeling about the series now. I mean, 0:22:54.547 --> 0:22:56.147 the fact of the matter is now that we'll go 0:22:56.227 --> 0:22:59.387 to Baltimore with the series alive, regardless of what happens 0:22:59.387 --> 0:23:00.907 in our favor. I mean, we might have won it 0:23:00.947 --> 0:23:02.787 by then, who knows. But how are you feeling about 0:23:02.787 --> 0:23:04.347 the series compared to this time yesterday? 0:23:06.507 --> 0:23:07.427 Much much better? 0:23:07.507 --> 0:23:09.387 I mean I must have going into the game, I 0:23:09.387 --> 0:23:11.067 had the same sort of feeling that we had in 0:23:11.107 --> 0:23:14.147 the that I had in the quarterfinal against Ireland in 0:23:14.147 --> 0:23:17.507 the last up, and by half time that feeling you 0:23:17.547 --> 0:23:22.347 hadn't gone away. But it's just it shows that we've 0:23:22.387 --> 0:23:24.187 we've got the careful, we've got the game plan, we've 0:23:24.227 --> 0:23:27.067 got the coaches. Well, you know, we've got the recipe. 0:23:27.227 --> 0:23:28.907 It's in the oven at the moment. How it turns 0:23:28.907 --> 0:23:29.827 out a. 0:23:29.907 --> 0:23:32.827 Pay of these analogies of yours, well, wonderful stuff, mate, 0:23:32.827 --> 0:23:35.227 What a way with words you have go back any time, 0:23:35.307 --> 0:23:37.627 And I love when you love it with somebody sort 0:23:37.627 --> 0:23:41.467 of users, you know, talking about kitchen terms, their recipes 0:23:41.547 --> 0:23:43.787 and such like. Good to hear from me, mate, O 0:23:43.867 --> 0:23:46.587 eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number? How 0:23:46.587 --> 0:23:50.667 good was Fabian Holland and his try Jason incredible. Yeah, 0:23:50.707 --> 0:23:55.667 I mean he is. He is herculean, that guy Fabian Holland. Again, 0:23:55.707 --> 0:23:57.787 do you forget he hasn't played for eight months up 0:23:57.867 --> 0:23:59.867 until when did he have us came back that ramfully 0:23:59.907 --> 0:24:03.387 shield challenge or defense that Otago had against mid Canibury. 0:24:03.707 --> 0:24:07.467 He played forty minutes. That was it hadn't played since 0:24:07.747 --> 0:24:11.267 the end of year tour last year. Comes back from 0:24:11.307 --> 0:24:16.507 a shoulder injury, probably aerobically short of a gallop. But 0:24:16.627 --> 0:24:18.787 when Josh Lord went off, he knew he had to 0:24:18.787 --> 0:24:21.467 stay on. There was no real other option unless you 0:24:21.507 --> 0:24:24.867 moved someone like Simon Parker into the second row man. 0:24:25.267 --> 0:24:28.067 What a shift by Fabian Holland. 0:24:28.107 --> 0:24:30.787 Stuart Hi, oh hi Jason. 0:24:30.867 --> 0:24:31.067 Look. 0:24:32.067 --> 0:24:34.227 My first thing I'd say is I wouldn't want to 0:24:34.267 --> 0:24:37.907 be I have to do the role of a referee 0:24:38.027 --> 0:24:43.427 or touch judge or TMO in these situations. But what 0:24:43.987 --> 0:24:44.787 just occurred to me. 0:24:46.227 --> 0:24:47.507 Because I was just. 0:24:47.427 --> 0:24:51.587 Going to compliment the ref Matt Carling, and what happened 0:24:51.667 --> 0:24:57.467 was I listened to it live on your channel on 0:24:57.507 --> 0:25:02.907 the radio and last last night and earlier this morning. Sorry, 0:25:02.947 --> 0:25:08.987 and the ref was fantastic, Jay, And he you know, 0:25:09.947 --> 0:25:11.947 I don't I don't want to do a beat up 0:25:11.947 --> 0:25:15.947 on a difficult role these people have, but to sort 0:25:15.987 --> 0:25:19.227 of have the kind of calmness in that cauldron. And 0:25:19.947 --> 0:25:22.267 you know, he was respectful, but he I thought he 0:25:22.347 --> 0:25:27.027 rightly did check the tmo's decision. And the thing was, Jason, 0:25:27.907 --> 0:25:30.787 it was quite amazing on the radio because this could 0:25:30.827 --> 0:25:34.947 seem to hear what Matt Carling was saying, and he 0:25:35.147 --> 0:25:39.027 just showed composure, if I may say, even a bit 0:25:39.027 --> 0:25:43.867 of humor to try to relax the guys. But on 0:25:43.907 --> 0:25:46.347 both sides he said more than once he said, you know, 0:25:46.467 --> 0:25:50.347 come on, guys, that's on the occasion. I just think 0:25:50.387 --> 0:25:54.907 it was a slight shift. And uh, you know, because 0:25:54.907 --> 0:25:59.347 I like everyone and any any team that you support 0:25:59.387 --> 0:26:04.387 around the world, you know, we've got to protect how 0:26:05.427 --> 0:26:08.107 the heads and safe. But I'm always scared of a 0:26:08.187 --> 0:26:10.907 yellow or red card. And anyway, I don't want to 0:26:10.947 --> 0:26:15.227 ramble too much, but just to say, boy, I hope 0:26:15.267 --> 0:26:16.307 this more kind of. 0:26:18.027 --> 0:26:18.227 Yeah. 0:26:18.227 --> 0:26:22.627 I think someone said that the rest customers instinct, but 0:26:22.667 --> 0:26:24.107 thank you for letting me express that. 0:26:24.547 --> 0:26:26.547 No good on you, Stuart. I totally agree. I've been 0:26:26.627 --> 0:26:29.507 nodding along as you've been chatting, and I too listened 0:26:29.547 --> 0:26:31.187 to the radio commentary, I sync it up with the 0:26:31.227 --> 0:26:34.107 television this morning, and and you would have heard Elliott 0:26:34.147 --> 0:26:37.507 and Gregor make that point. Matthew Carly had a very 0:26:37.547 --> 0:26:42.667 good game. He was exactly as you said, calm, composed, 0:26:43.067 --> 0:26:45.507 just took a moment to Breathe can you imagine how 0:26:45.547 --> 0:26:48.627 much of a quadron it must be in there? And 0:26:49.507 --> 0:26:54.107 with you know, ninety eight percent of that crowd supporting 0:26:54.147 --> 0:26:57.587 South Africa. And when he sees on the screen what 0:26:57.707 --> 0:27:02.427 appears to be a shouldered ahead, the ability just to 0:27:02.467 --> 0:27:06.547 take a breath, look at it, examine the facts and 0:27:06.667 --> 0:27:09.027 come up with the right decision. And that was just 0:27:09.067 --> 0:27:11.827 one example. I thought he had a terrific game and 0:27:11.827 --> 0:27:13.987 and added to the spectacle as well. Thanks you. I 0:27:14.067 --> 0:27:16.347 appreciate your call being good. 0:27:16.227 --> 0:27:22.627 Afternoon after Pony with is the will that is away? 0:27:24.307 --> 0:27:25.147 A will? Jordan? 0:27:25.787 --> 0:27:26.547 What do you record? 0:27:26.867 --> 0:27:27.067 Yeah? 0:27:27.147 --> 0:27:30.667 And it's and and it's funny because in joinery terms, 0:27:30.707 --> 0:27:34.667 a mule post is your most it's your main structural 0:27:34.747 --> 0:27:38.507 element to a seat of steers. And here we have 0:27:39.027 --> 0:27:43.827 Fletcher Newle just holding it up, just holding the whole 0:27:43.907 --> 0:27:47.067 thing up. These guys, you know, I like I like 0:27:47.187 --> 0:27:51.227 old mates and term the manor squad because yeah, yeah, 0:27:51.587 --> 0:27:54.147 I think Ready's turned around. And his answer was, we'll we'll, 0:27:54.307 --> 0:27:59.787 we'll give I'll give you a bomb squad. Just awesome. 0:27:59.827 --> 0:27:59.947 Man. 0:28:00.467 --> 0:28:02.667 I was raised to be humble and and think, but no, 0:28:02.907 --> 0:28:07.667 let's let's just celebrate. And yeah, it's awesome to see. 0:28:07.707 --> 0:28:09.747 But I think the old spring Box were a bit 0:28:09.867 --> 0:28:13.307 like now, we've had a few games before they before 0:28:13.347 --> 0:28:18.267 they did to get things, you know, settled over there. 0:28:18.787 --> 0:28:23.627 And I think the spring Box, yeah, that might have 0:28:23.707 --> 0:28:25.667 just been like like you know, a dog that hasn't 0:28:25.707 --> 0:28:27.507 had a walk for a week while and then you 0:28:27.587 --> 0:28:29.067 take them for that walk and they've just got a 0:28:29.147 --> 0:28:33.827 bit too at the panicky, a bit too, a bit boisterous, 0:28:34.827 --> 0:28:38.467 and yeah going forward to you know, let's not be fools. 0:28:38.507 --> 0:28:41.787 We've got another three three more to go. But what's 0:28:41.827 --> 0:28:46.507 it now, the sixty sixty Ford forty three? Yeah, so 0:28:47.027 --> 0:28:50.587 keating to court. What are we can for sport in 0:28:50.627 --> 0:28:56.467 this country? The the Wahine. What a proud day man, Well, yeah. 0:28:56.627 --> 0:28:59.467 A proud day. And Dave ben Well said, mate Well said, yeah, 0:28:59.467 --> 0:29:01.747 it's it's a good day to be a fan of 0:29:01.827 --> 0:29:04.067 New Zealand sports teams, that's for sure. Good on your ben. 0:29:04.147 --> 0:29:07.067 Thanks indeed, trust the South Africans play in the spirit 0:29:07.107 --> 0:29:10.267 of true sportsmanship. That's the way we roll. Yeah, it 0:29:10.347 --> 0:29:13.707 wasn't a dirty game, was it at all. There was 0:29:13.867 --> 0:29:15.227 nothing in there that there was a bit of a 0:29:15.307 --> 0:29:18.147 push and shove under the post at one stage. But 0:29:18.707 --> 0:29:21.587 you can tell the respect that these two teams hold 0:29:21.627 --> 0:29:24.307 each other in and it's well being just said. You know, 0:29:24.387 --> 0:29:27.467 we meant to be humble. Yes, you can be humble, 0:29:27.507 --> 0:29:32.267 but celebrate victory. That's allowed. You're allowed to celebrate wins 0:29:32.427 --> 0:29:36.947 like this. Anthony, Hi, great mate, how very good mate. 0:29:37.827 --> 0:29:38.187 I made. 0:29:38.227 --> 0:29:41.027 Look I called you last week and last Saturday, and 0:29:41.547 --> 0:29:43.307 the one thing that you and I sort of agreed 0:29:43.307 --> 0:29:46.107 on is that the all Blacks can just have parity. 0:29:46.267 --> 0:29:48.147 It was the one thing we agree and much of 0:29:48.187 --> 0:29:52.107 you remember, but we said, I told you they have parity. 0:29:53.067 --> 0:29:55.547 I think they are in with a chance. And it's 0:29:55.587 --> 0:29:58.347 exactly what happened yesterday in National. Previous callers said that 0:29:59.347 --> 0:30:03.187 the fact that when they get sort of like resistance 0:30:03.187 --> 0:30:05.587 a little bit, that's all they have, you know, And 0:30:06.147 --> 0:30:08.627 so it was it was quite good to see that 0:30:08.667 --> 0:30:10.827 the or Blacks just man up and of course with 0:30:10.987 --> 0:30:14.187 a with a mana squad coming up. That was that 0:30:14.387 --> 0:30:17.347 was really good. You know, it's just that force meeting force, 0:30:17.787 --> 0:30:20.067 and I think he might have got a little bit 0:30:20.147 --> 0:30:22.787 of a shock. I guess they didn't expect. 0:30:23.307 --> 0:30:24.227 Yeah, I thought. I don't know. 0:30:24.307 --> 0:30:26.387 I remember our chat last week. 0:30:26.427 --> 0:30:26.627 I do. 0:30:26.747 --> 0:30:30.267 It's yeah, certainly is coming back to me. But you 0:30:30.347 --> 0:30:32.547 talk about parity, I thought South Africa boss the first 0:30:32.587 --> 0:30:36.067 half at half time, yeah, yeah, but but parity across 0:30:36.107 --> 0:30:39.547 eighty minutes and and waiting and absorbing and taking at 0:30:39.587 --> 0:30:42.267 the odd punch or two, and then when you've soaked 0:30:42.267 --> 0:30:46.107 it up bouncing back the other way. Absolutely, yeah, mate. 0:30:46.147 --> 0:30:48.747 So this is exactly what I was. And I told 0:30:48.827 --> 0:30:51.427 all my all my other rugby mates, even in the Republic. 0:30:51.507 --> 0:30:54.547 I told him, Look, if the Orbits get parody over there, 0:30:54.627 --> 0:30:56.427 over the whole game, it's going to be game on 0:30:56.547 --> 0:30:58.427 and you better be watching because those backs of the 0:30:58.507 --> 0:31:00.987 or Blacks are lethal me. And it's exactly what happened. 0:31:02.227 --> 0:31:04.147 The thing is, we all know, Anthony, we know, we 0:31:04.227 --> 0:31:08.507 all know that this ain't over. That's why. Yeah, And 0:31:08.627 --> 0:31:10.427 I know you know too, mate. You're probably too humble 0:31:10.507 --> 0:31:12.427 to say it, but you're I mean, having had that 0:31:12.547 --> 0:31:14.787 run out this morning. Uh and with a week to 0:31:14.867 --> 0:31:17.547 prepare for Cape Town. I mean it's going to be 0:31:17.707 --> 0:31:19.907 an entirely different kettle of fish next week. 0:31:20.747 --> 0:31:22.187 True, it's going to be a sort of a semi 0:31:22.227 --> 0:31:25.187 All Black home game, I would think with all the 0:31:25.307 --> 0:31:27.267 support the All Blacks have, but I think they will 0:31:27.307 --> 0:31:29.707 not reach on their laurels. I think they will definitely 0:31:29.787 --> 0:31:32.627 be upward because now they they know what they are 0:31:32.907 --> 0:31:34.507 up again. And I don't think the spring Boks can 0:31:34.667 --> 0:31:37.227 change within a week. I think the spring Boks are 0:31:37.587 --> 0:31:39.347 the spring Box, you know, this is how they play. 0:31:40.787 --> 0:31:42.507 I think the All Black's got a couple that I 0:31:42.547 --> 0:31:44.307 think they've got a little bit more in the katy 0:31:44.787 --> 0:31:45.667 that they can take out. 0:31:47.107 --> 0:31:49.547 Good on you, Anthony, Hey, good to chat, make callback anytime. 0:31:49.667 --> 0:31:52.827 Hopefully we can chat again during the series. Like I say, 0:31:52.907 --> 0:31:54.547 there's a series. That's a great thing about it. I 0:31:54.627 --> 0:31:57.027 mentioned this yesterday, not just one game. And now we 0:31:57.107 --> 0:31:59.547 have to look at something else, you know, during the 0:31:59.627 --> 0:32:02.227 Rugby Championship and now we play Argentina or Australia whatever 0:32:02.267 --> 0:32:04.427 it is. We go again next week and the week 0:32:04.507 --> 0:32:07.907 after and the week after that. We're twenty five percent 0:32:08.067 --> 0:32:12.587 of the way through and as Jason Ryan said, you 0:32:12.747 --> 0:32:15.387 don't have to win every round, and that applies to 0:32:15.467 --> 0:32:18.187 the series as well. You don't have to win every round. 0:32:18.627 --> 0:32:21.067 South Africa can still win the series three to one, 0:32:21.707 --> 0:32:27.107 and that is one possible outcome. I hope that doesn't happen, 0:32:27.427 --> 0:32:29.907 and I don't think it will. But this is a 0:32:30.067 --> 0:32:34.947 series that is the first round of a four match series, 0:32:35.667 --> 0:32:38.547 which makes it all the more intriguing for me. Eighteen 0:32:38.627 --> 0:32:41.827 away from one, Mark Dallas, hold there with you after that, 0:32:42.147 --> 0:32:43.947 after this spielin if you want to jump a ball, 0:32:43.987 --> 0:32:45.707 we'll talk rugby for a bit longer. Oh eight hundred 0:32:45.707 --> 0:32:46.667 and eighty ten eighty. 0:32:46.867 --> 0:32:50.427 The scoreboard only tells half the story. Finally tells the rest. 0:32:50.707 --> 0:32:54.387 Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and the outi Q seven 0:32:54.507 --> 0:32:58.627 Dynamic Black Runout Edition Test Drive Today News talks env. 0:32:59.187 --> 0:33:02.147 Roy Garball left inside Barrett the skip past the two 0:33:02.187 --> 0:33:03.947 point five file on the left wing. 0:33:03.947 --> 0:33:05.867 Ben, Josh, Bobby, Josh Dorvey. 0:33:06.987 --> 0:33:09.307 Just for me to try a good try more be 0:33:09.467 --> 0:33:11.467 set up by two por Vai Piney. Everyone will talk 0:33:11.467 --> 0:33:13.787 about the front row swapping out and changing the game, 0:33:14.067 --> 0:33:18.467 but Ethan de Groot, quite possibly sacrificing his tour to 0:33:18.587 --> 0:33:22.027 play on and not force those coming on to have 0:33:22.107 --> 0:33:26.267 to play seventy at altitude will be the unspoken standout. Yeah, 0:33:26.307 --> 0:33:28.627 that's a very good point. Ethan de Group was not 0:33:28.827 --> 0:33:30.987 well at all going into the game. He spent most 0:33:31.027 --> 0:33:34.187 of the day before the game in bed, fronted up, 0:33:34.867 --> 0:33:37.827 as Dave Rennie puts it, barred up, and then had 0:33:37.907 --> 0:33:41.947 that nasty collision with Josh Lord. That was separate to 0:33:42.027 --> 0:33:43.507 all of that, of course, but the fact that he 0:33:43.747 --> 0:33:46.907 went on and stayed on, as this tech said, until 0:33:46.987 --> 0:33:48.947 that happened, meant that, you know, he could have come 0:33:48.987 --> 0:33:51.347 off of ten minutes. He was clearly not right. He 0:33:51.427 --> 0:33:53.427 was having trouble with his knee that was getting scrapped up, 0:33:53.867 --> 0:33:56.707 unless that was just a cover for the fact that 0:33:56.787 --> 0:34:00.347 he was really, really unwell. Regardless of all of that. Yeah, 0:34:00.907 --> 0:34:02.787 every minute he played was a minute one of those 0:34:02.787 --> 0:34:05.227 front row forwards off the bench didn't have to play 0:34:05.667 --> 0:34:11.227 at altitude. It's a very good point. Mark. Hi, Hey, yeah, 0:34:11.307 --> 0:34:11.787 I remember. 0:34:11.947 --> 0:34:14.267 It's a long time ago. It sort of snuck into 0:34:14.307 --> 0:34:17.267 the grand stand at Run Over two and anyway, it 0:34:17.307 --> 0:34:19.507 was getting towards the end of the game and the 0:34:19.867 --> 0:34:23.187 grand stand stood up and started clapping. I was going 0:34:23.227 --> 0:34:25.387 I was looking at the field wondering why, you know, 0:34:26.027 --> 0:34:28.547 someone coming off, But it was Dave Rennie coming down 0:34:28.587 --> 0:34:30.587 and walking through the crowd. And I don't think I've 0:34:30.627 --> 0:34:34.187 ever seen that anywhere before, you know, just the sort 0:34:34.227 --> 0:34:36.987 of admiration and the thanks for the coach and the 0:34:37.067 --> 0:34:39.547 way he takes everyone with him along the journey. And 0:34:39.627 --> 0:34:42.267 I think for the All Blacks, thank goodness that the 0:34:42.387 --> 0:34:45.467 decision was made, probably by David Cooks to make that change, 0:34:45.507 --> 0:34:48.747 you know, get rid of Razor and putting Dave Rennie. 0:34:48.787 --> 0:34:50.747 And I mean I didn't, I don't. I think it 0:34:50.827 --> 0:34:53.427 surprised everyone in the country when he did when he 0:34:53.547 --> 0:34:56.427 did that. But you know, given the start to this 0:34:57.587 --> 0:34:59.787 this series, it's it's the right. 0:34:59.707 --> 0:35:00.227 Call, isn't it. 0:35:00.667 --> 0:35:03.467 Yeah, I don't think there's any any doubt. I mean 0:35:03.827 --> 0:35:07.187 he's played seven matches or overseens seven matches and I've 0:35:07.187 --> 0:35:09.907 won them all. And as I say, across those seven matches, 0:35:09.947 --> 0:35:16.707 there's been been obvious improvement, you know, noticeable, important, significant 0:35:17.387 --> 0:35:21.027 improvement and development of the game plan. I think I've 0:35:21.027 --> 0:35:22.827 said it so often and probably to you Mark. You know, 0:35:23.307 --> 0:35:26.267 he's so clear when you hear him in media conferences. 0:35:27.467 --> 0:35:28.987 You listen to him and you say, I can understand 0:35:28.987 --> 0:35:34.667 that he doesn't. There's no word salad, there's no ambival sorry, ambiguity. 0:35:35.267 --> 0:35:38.467 And if that's what we see, then surely that clarity 0:35:38.587 --> 0:35:41.267 is also present inside the camp. He probably just says 0:35:41.307 --> 0:35:42.827 to these guys, Okay, here's what I need you to do, 0:35:42.987 --> 0:35:45.147 and they say, okay, we'll do that and it works. 0:35:46.587 --> 0:35:48.787 Oh yeah, And I think it's it's a little bit 0:35:48.907 --> 0:35:51.547 like that the worries. You know, everyone's playing better across 0:35:51.587 --> 0:35:54.107 the board, and I think, you know, for the most part, 0:35:54.827 --> 0:35:58.667 our stars stood up last night, you know, the Will 0:35:58.787 --> 0:36:01.587 Jordans and Jordie's, you know, Cam Royga just gets better 0:36:01.667 --> 0:36:04.267 and better. And you know, those three players have probably 0:36:04.307 --> 0:36:06.707 some of the best players that I've witnessed playing for 0:36:06.787 --> 0:36:09.507 the All Blacks, and they really are superstars and they 0:36:09.547 --> 0:36:11.947 do make a difference on the field. And I think 0:36:12.067 --> 0:36:14.627 the skill set right across the border is what South 0:36:14.627 --> 0:36:17.267 Africa or lacking. And I know they've sort of gone 0:36:17.307 --> 0:36:20.307 to this power game, and let's face it, they won 0:36:20.387 --> 0:36:23.147 the power game last night. But in my opinion, we 0:36:23.787 --> 0:36:27.067 won the skill game. Our little things we do and 0:36:27.187 --> 0:36:29.707 our skill set we're just better than theirs. And I think, 0:36:30.307 --> 0:36:32.547 you know, we can work on our scrum and perhaps 0:36:32.627 --> 0:36:35.067 our lineout wasn't so good in the second half. We 0:36:35.187 --> 0:36:37.867 can work on those things, but to change and get 0:36:37.947 --> 0:36:40.427 that skill set up to the level the All Blacks 0:36:40.467 --> 0:36:42.027 are playing at the moment. I think it's got a 0:36:42.067 --> 0:36:43.147 big challenge for Lassie. 0:36:43.707 --> 0:36:46.507 Yeah, I agree, Mark, I agree, there's some thinking to do. 0:36:46.627 --> 0:36:49.867 But if we know Russi, we know that he will respond. 0:36:50.587 --> 0:36:55.667 He's a magnificent generation or rugby coach and armed now 0:36:55.867 --> 0:36:59.267 with eighty minutes of data from this test, you know 0:36:59.507 --> 0:37:03.627 that he's going to come out or his team is invigorate, 0:37:03.747 --> 0:37:06.627 it refreshed and with a different game plan. Next week 0:37:06.987 --> 0:37:12.227 they will be absolutely desperate not to lose in Cape 0:37:12.267 --> 0:37:15.907 Town and go to nil down. Wait for the reaction 0:37:16.107 --> 0:37:20.067 because it is coming. Ashiyahy Jason. 0:37:21.387 --> 0:37:24.507 I can't decide that the South Africans, whether their problem 0:37:24.667 --> 0:37:29.787 is a lack of match fitness or that they're playing 0:37:29.947 --> 0:37:34.227 so much Northern Hemisphere rugby nowadays since they left Super 0:37:34.307 --> 0:37:37.707 Rugby what five years ago, that when they come up 0:37:37.707 --> 0:37:41.067 against Southern Hemisphere sides now they're not Yeah, they're just 0:37:41.227 --> 0:37:45.827 not adjusting to the difference defensively. And the reason I 0:37:45.947 --> 0:37:49.507 say that is not just last night's performance, but against Argentina. 0:37:50.467 --> 0:37:52.667 For one of one spilled passed towards the end of 0:37:52.707 --> 0:37:54.747 that game, Argentina could have beaten them as well. 0:37:55.547 --> 0:37:59.587 Yep, they could have. They could well have. And you're right, 0:37:59.627 --> 0:38:01.747 and it's quite telling, isn't it. Ash that the games 0:38:01.787 --> 0:38:06.307 they played in July England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Hemisphere 0:38:06.467 --> 0:38:09.547 sides all comfortable wins, forty points on all of them, 0:38:09.587 --> 0:38:11.467 and all of a sudden, as you say, they come 0:38:11.547 --> 0:38:13.627 up against a team you know from the South that 0:38:13.707 --> 0:38:15.387 don't come you know, in terms of the style. They 0:38:15.427 --> 0:38:19.107 don't play Argentinian teams very often, and it's a different challenge. 0:38:19.147 --> 0:38:23.067 And look it's eighty minutes. And I look back to 0:38:23.147 --> 0:38:24.667 last year and I think, well, they seem to adapt 0:38:24.747 --> 0:38:27.627 okay after losing an Auckland when they got to Wellington. 0:38:27.787 --> 0:38:29.707 So I don't think we should took it to care. 0:38:29.827 --> 0:38:32.307 But it's a good point you make. It's a different style. 0:38:32.987 --> 0:38:35.627 You know, we say that we've perhaps lost something from 0:38:35.707 --> 0:38:39.307 not playing South African teams in Super rugby and look, 0:38:39.507 --> 0:38:42.187 maybe the you know, the flip side of that of 0:38:42.307 --> 0:38:44.427 that is that they're less familiar with us now as well. 0:38:45.467 --> 0:38:48.347 Yeah yeah, but as I say, it is only one 0:38:48.467 --> 0:38:50.947 test in and I'm still not sure which way it is. 0:38:51.027 --> 0:38:53.867 If it's just a lack of match fitness, and you 0:38:53.947 --> 0:38:56.267 know they'll get better obviously as the series goes on. 0:38:56.987 --> 0:38:59.627 Yeah, absolutely, it's good to hear from you, mate, Thanks indeed. 0:38:59.787 --> 0:39:05.267 Tell us hi, Yeah, two points funy to use the boxing. 0:39:05.347 --> 0:39:09.027 And now after half time, after six rounds we were 0:39:09.627 --> 0:39:12.587 we were way behind on points. We should have been 0:39:12.707 --> 0:39:18.627 ten or fifteen points down, but that is used as 0:39:18.667 --> 0:39:21.267 a boxing analogy. It's the last few rounds that count, 0:39:21.427 --> 0:39:25.467 isn't it nine to twelve? And yet that when yeah, 0:39:25.507 --> 0:39:29.067 that's when we won the game. And I remember, finally 0:39:29.827 --> 0:39:31.427 there might be a long ago, but when I saw 0:39:31.547 --> 0:39:35.867 that the Hurricanes thrash the Chiefs in the separate final, 0:39:36.827 --> 0:39:38.467 I thought, if the All Backs can play like that, 0:39:40.107 --> 0:39:43.947 we can actually take out the box. And I think 0:39:45.027 --> 0:39:47.827 they showed that by choosing a lot of Hurricanes the 0:39:47.907 --> 0:39:50.507 next day in the All Backs blah blah and playing 0:39:50.627 --> 0:39:54.747 they played like the Hurricanes played that night, and I thought, yes, yes, 0:39:55.187 --> 0:39:55.387 you know. 0:39:56.067 --> 0:39:59.227 I thought yes as well, yes, great game. 0:39:59.467 --> 0:40:00.627 We'll never forget that game. 0:40:02.307 --> 0:40:03.947 I don't think we're supposed to either. You're supposed to 0:40:03.947 --> 0:40:06.427 hold onto games like that, Dallas and I will for 0:40:06.467 --> 0:40:08.267 a long time. Good to hear from you as always, mate. 0:40:08.267 --> 0:40:09.547 Seven and a half to one, News Talks. 0:40:09.587 --> 0:40:13.907 HEB when there's a line call, it's your call. Weekend 0:40:14.027 --> 0:40:16.667 Sport with Jason Fine News Talks. 0:40:16.707 --> 0:40:20.187 HEB coming at four to one. We'll open the lines 0:40:20.187 --> 0:40:22.067 again after one o'clock. Elliot Smith going to join us 0:40:22.067 --> 0:40:25.667 as well, our match commentator and rugby editor with his observations. 0:40:26.267 --> 0:40:29.187 A number of people have pointed out on text, including Paddy, 0:40:29.387 --> 0:40:33.267 they definitely miss see CALLISSI he'll add massively next week. Yeah, 0:40:33.507 --> 0:40:35.347 I don't know. It might have been one of those 0:40:35.387 --> 0:40:37.947 where if the game this morning had been a Rugby 0:40:37.987 --> 0:40:41.747 World Cup final, see Calisi might have played. They obviously 0:40:41.867 --> 0:40:44.907 decided not to play him, but now with three games 0:40:44.947 --> 0:40:47.707 to go, he is set to have a big influence. 0:40:48.027 --> 0:40:49.987 Luke said, I sat cuddled up with my three year 0:40:49.987 --> 0:40:52.547 old watching this morning. It was her first New Zealand 0:40:52.627 --> 0:40:54.707 verse South Africa test. I love the way we hung 0:40:54.747 --> 0:40:57.187 on in the first fifty odd minutes had shades of 0:40:57.267 --> 0:41:00.947 Wellington appairing, but the bench were awesome and Fabian flicked 0:41:00.987 --> 0:41:04.107 a switch when Josh Lord went off. There was a 0:41:04.147 --> 0:41:06.107 lot to like about it. Interesting to hear Jason Ryan 0:41:06.147 --> 0:41:09.667 say two that when South Africa started to get on 0:41:09.747 --> 0:41:12.187 top of them, he started to think, oh, here we 0:41:12.267 --> 0:41:16.307 go again, but making adjustments in real time. That is 0:41:16.387 --> 0:41:19.347 one major difference between the Shear's team and last year's 0:41:19.467 --> 0:41:21.387 News is Next the. 0:41:21.507 --> 0:41:24.907 Only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on on 0:41:26.307 --> 0:41:27.187 head off the field. 0:41:27.427 --> 0:41:28.267 You gotta saw en. 0:41:28.667 --> 0:41:31.667 It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Fine and the 0:41:31.827 --> 0:41:36.707 udi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition on Youth Talks MB, your. 0:41:36.667 --> 0:41:37.427 Home of sport. 0:41:38.187 --> 0:41:40.067 Welcome back into the show. This is Weekend Sport on 0:41:40.107 --> 0:41:42.907 News TALKSB one O seven in an hour from now, 0:41:43.027 --> 0:41:45.667 joined by Andrew Webster. We haven't forgotten the Warriors? How 0:41:45.707 --> 0:41:47.147 can we forget the team at the top of the 0:41:47.227 --> 0:41:50.227 letter might only be for a few hours, but the 0:41:50.307 --> 0:41:54.187 fact remains there. They are want to talk Warriors. After two, 0:41:54.947 --> 0:41:58.387 Elliott Smith out of Johannesburg shortly more calls on the rugby. 0:41:58.387 --> 0:42:00.747 A couple of texts I didn't get to before, one 0:42:00.747 --> 0:42:03.107 which I'd like to read out. Finey geez what a game, 0:42:03.267 --> 0:42:06.267 says Gonna, especially the last twenty. To me, the All 0:42:06.387 --> 0:42:10.387 Blacks played well and played as a team. They've got 0:42:10.387 --> 0:42:12.707 a clear plan, trust in one another, and not panicking 0:42:12.787 --> 0:42:15.347 under pressure when the blow torch was applied, and it 0:42:15.467 --> 0:42:18.187 was certainly applied. I feel the Bock coach had a 0:42:18.267 --> 0:42:20.827 touch of arrogance by not introducing the bomb squad all 0:42:20.867 --> 0:42:23.707 at once instead of in dribs and drabs. He won't 0:42:23.707 --> 0:42:26.827 make that mistake twice simply in my eyes, he's gonna 0:42:26.867 --> 0:42:30.267 Renny out coach him my MVP. Though the referee stayed 0:42:30.267 --> 0:42:33.827 calm under pressure kept the game plowing, especially when challenged 0:42:33.907 --> 0:42:37.347 by the TMO. The weather is less than average outside, 0:42:37.387 --> 0:42:39.507 but it's a great day, good one. You're gonna hope 0:42:39.547 --> 0:42:41.467 you're staying warm and dry, Mateko Piney. I don't think 0:42:41.467 --> 0:42:46.067 anyone's mentioned our superb captain, says Trish. He earned the 0:42:46.107 --> 0:42:48.027 respect of the referee, didn't he. Did you notice the 0:42:48.067 --> 0:42:50.427 ref pat him on the back at the conclusion of 0:42:50.467 --> 0:42:52.547 the game when they shook hands. I haven't seen that before, 0:42:53.187 --> 0:42:56.267 Howling Gale here. It's good that everybody's adding their weather 0:42:56.347 --> 0:43:01.627 forecasts into their texts. Another true fantastic game. Jason, I 0:43:01.707 --> 0:43:04.707 happened to notice when the game finished. Our boys were 0:43:04.747 --> 0:43:08.427 so gracious, no high fives, pumps, just a huge proud 0:43:08.547 --> 0:43:12.267 moment among themselves, standing tall and proud. I'm sure they 0:43:12.347 --> 0:43:15.187 were all shattered. Job well done for daver Any. Thank you, 0:43:15.227 --> 0:43:20.107 Trish and BARRYE says Jason. I love that super Rugby 0:43:20.187 --> 0:43:23.987 can stand tall and say it's still producing class players, 0:43:24.627 --> 0:43:30.027 highly talented, tough players, not some second class competition like 0:43:30.147 --> 0:43:33.507 many South African and Northern Hemisphere people seem to think 0:43:33.907 --> 0:43:37.507 that it is without South Africa. And at very very 0:43:37.587 --> 0:43:40.987 good point, Barrie, thanks for all your texts. Nine two 0:43:41.107 --> 0:43:43.827 ninety two lines are open on eight hundred eighty ten 0:43:43.907 --> 0:43:45.187 eighty Shopping. 0:43:44.867 --> 0:43:46.747 For the box, get shot by the old blacks. 0:43:46.547 --> 0:43:51.147 Creak, gather through the line, fabbing harve time all blacks, 0:43:51.187 --> 0:43:52.747 hat back and hit the lean. 0:43:53.507 --> 0:43:55.547 Yeah, that's certainly what's the turning point in the second half, 0:43:55.587 --> 0:43:58.987 the charge down try for Fabian Holland, who was absolutely 0:43:59.027 --> 0:44:00.947 immense in this game. That was the voice, of course 0:44:01.027 --> 0:44:04.427 of our match commentator and rugby editor Elliot Smith, who 0:44:04.507 --> 0:44:07.067 joins us now from Johannesburg. You've caught a lot of 0:44:07.107 --> 0:44:09.427 all blacks rugby. Elliott, You've watched a lot of All 0:44:09.467 --> 0:44:12.187 Blacks rugby. Where does that sit among the All Blacks 0:44:12.227 --> 0:44:14.547 performances that you have witnessed live? 0:44:15.827 --> 0:44:17.467 I think it has to rate right up to there. 0:44:17.507 --> 0:44:19.507 I was here two years ago and the All Blacks 0:44:19.547 --> 0:44:22.307 led by ten points heading into the closing stages against 0:44:22.347 --> 0:44:25.707 the Spring Box Pliny, and they completely blew it. But 0:44:26.147 --> 0:44:29.307 this was a different game entirely from that. They went 0:44:29.387 --> 0:44:32.267 up by ten, they consolidated it, they scored a closing 0:44:32.387 --> 0:44:34.227 try to win it. But you know that doesn't really 0:44:34.267 --> 0:44:37.707 reflect the eighty minutes that preceded it. You know, the 0:44:37.787 --> 0:44:39.827 All Blacks were down for the count at one point. 0:44:39.867 --> 0:44:42.507 It was the heavyweight boxing bout and the All Blacks 0:44:42.547 --> 0:44:45.507 were severely down on points. But they got off the 0:44:45.587 --> 0:44:48.147 canvas and found a way for around the fifty five 0:44:48.187 --> 0:44:50.147 minute mark when they got a crucial penalty. I'm looking 0:44:50.147 --> 0:44:52.947 at patch of grass right now where they got the penalty, 0:44:52.987 --> 0:44:55.427 scrumb penalty just in front of their own sticks, went 0:44:55.467 --> 0:44:58.347 downfield and turned the game around from that point, and 0:44:58.667 --> 0:45:01.587 not only did they get the win, they managed to 0:45:01.947 --> 0:45:03.747 put the string Box on the back foot again. At 0:45:03.747 --> 0:45:07.467 scrum time one with two men to or two minute 0:45:07.507 --> 0:45:10.507 heads of fifteen thirteen late in the game. So as 0:45:10.547 --> 0:45:12.947 far as All Blacks wins go over the last few years, 0:45:13.067 --> 0:45:15.027 I think it has to be right up there, a 0:45:15.107 --> 0:45:17.507 statement win of sorts. I think Pinney too, to open 0:45:17.627 --> 0:45:19.947 up the series against the old foe, and look, they 0:45:20.027 --> 0:45:22.427 returned to number one in the world. That's probably going 0:45:22.467 --> 0:45:24.347 to go a little bit back and forth. That won't 0:45:24.387 --> 0:45:25.827 matter to the All Blacks. What will matter is the 0:45:26.187 --> 0:45:28.867 kind statement they made tonight at Alice Park when they're 0:45:28.947 --> 0:45:32.827 under the kiwash, found a way and claimed the victory 0:45:32.867 --> 0:45:34.107 over South Africa. 0:45:34.267 --> 0:45:36.347 Yeah, I think that said. Finding a way is the thing. 0:45:36.387 --> 0:45:38.147 We had Jason Ryan on the show earlier and he 0:45:38.267 --> 0:45:41.987 talked about the adjustments they made. They were under immense pressure. 0:45:42.147 --> 0:45:43.947 How important I know you've mentioned it there, but how 0:45:43.987 --> 0:45:46.667 important was that period early in the second half the 0:45:46.707 --> 0:45:49.107 All Blacks soaked up all that pressure and then got 0:45:49.187 --> 0:45:51.347 that scrum penalty under their own posts. 0:45:52.387 --> 0:45:54.587 Oh I thought it was immense. Yeah, this was, as 0:45:54.627 --> 0:45:57.387 I said before, without wanting to over use the boxing analogy, 0:45:57.467 --> 0:46:00.787 they were coppying jabs left, right and center and basically 0:46:00.947 --> 0:46:04.067 just waiting for the haymaker land from South Africa to 0:46:04.147 --> 0:46:06.867 send them down to the canvas permanently, and had they, 0:46:07.467 --> 0:46:09.787 the South Africans won a scrum penalty on that scrum 0:46:09.867 --> 0:46:12.027 with the All Blacks one the penalty in the end, 0:46:12.067 --> 0:46:14.227 it probably would have been yellow card for the All 0:46:14.267 --> 0:46:17.267 Blacks in South Africa probably would have scored from there. 0:46:17.427 --> 0:46:20.587 But the All Blacks finally get one, you know, from 0:46:20.627 --> 0:46:23.707 the South Africans, and they use it as a platform 0:46:23.787 --> 0:46:25.347 to get out of trouble and then get their way 0:46:25.747 --> 0:46:28.507 down the park and eventually score some points out of it. 0:46:28.707 --> 0:46:31.307 So I think you have to applaud the All Blacks 0:46:31.387 --> 0:46:35.187 for just staying in the fight. And you know, even 0:46:35.187 --> 0:46:36.667 when it looked like they were down and out, they 0:46:36.747 --> 0:46:40.347 managed to do so. So it showed an immense amount 0:46:40.387 --> 0:46:44.387 of hearts and I think that's what All Blacks fans, 0:46:44.467 --> 0:46:45.987 you know, obviously they'll take the result, but I think 0:46:45.987 --> 0:46:47.867 All Blacks fans can take a lot from this game 0:46:47.987 --> 0:46:50.507 going one, they found a way as we discussed before, 0:46:50.547 --> 0:46:53.627 but two, the immense heart from this team to not 0:46:53.707 --> 0:46:57.067 buckle under the pressure and get themselves in a position 0:46:57.187 --> 0:46:59.667 to win this Test match. I think it will go 0:46:59.827 --> 0:47:02.867 down as one of the All Blacks, you know, greatest 0:47:02.907 --> 0:47:06.267 wins of the last ten or so years, especially post 0:47:06.627 --> 0:47:08.987 the twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup. I know they've had 0:47:09.027 --> 0:47:12.307 some big ones along the way and some some tough 0:47:12.387 --> 0:47:17.787 losses too, But to drive you know, a statement and 0:47:18.147 --> 0:47:20.427 drive a stake through the heart of you know, the 0:47:20.507 --> 0:47:22.827 home of South African rugby, it doesn't get much better 0:47:22.867 --> 0:47:23.067 than that. 0:47:23.267 --> 0:47:25.187 So yeah, I'd put this rune up there in terms 0:47:25.187 --> 0:47:28.107 of all Black victories. Have the all Blacks uncovered the 0:47:28.187 --> 0:47:30.507 blueprint now to beat the spring box if you do 0:47:30.747 --> 0:47:33.667 match them physically, if you show resilience, if you take 0:47:33.707 --> 0:47:35.867 the odd punch. They don't have a heck of a 0:47:35.907 --> 0:47:38.027 lot else. Well that's right. 0:47:38.107 --> 0:47:39.627 I mean, they scored one try today and that was 0:47:39.667 --> 0:47:43.507 the powerful Estahzen who was quality for them right throughout 0:47:43.547 --> 0:47:46.307 the park, and so is Jasper Visa. But those were 0:47:46.387 --> 0:47:48.907 the two best attacking options, their number eight and their 0:47:48.947 --> 0:47:52.347 replacement hybrid flanker slash midfielder. 0:47:52.387 --> 0:47:54.267 And they didn't show a lot else. 0:47:54.307 --> 0:47:57.067 Sasha Feinnberg and Gon Mizoula was a wonderful rugby player, 0:47:57.187 --> 0:48:01.187 but he looked limited, I thought out there today. Grant Williams, 0:48:01.387 --> 0:48:03.347 the half back, tried to spark a few things, but 0:48:03.387 --> 0:48:05.507 couldn't just keep going. Didn't see a lot out of 0:48:05.547 --> 0:48:08.587 their midfield and choosing I'll be apart from kicking goals 0:48:08.667 --> 0:48:11.827 was pretty quiet as well. So I think your Blacks 0:48:11.827 --> 0:48:14.067 have found a way. Just what they can do next 0:48:14.107 --> 0:48:16.027 week I think will be interesting. And how the spring 0:48:16.107 --> 0:48:18.187 Box approach it. Do they put Pollard in its end? 0:48:18.387 --> 0:48:20.387 Does that change the way they play? But on the 0:48:20.427 --> 0:48:22.387 basis of what were seeing tonight party, the All Blacks 0:48:22.427 --> 0:48:25.667 certainly have a blueprint that they can be proud of. 0:48:25.987 --> 0:48:28.307 On a day like this that it's hard to single 0:48:28.347 --> 0:48:31.427 out any individuals that was well and truly a team performance. 0:48:31.467 --> 0:48:34.387 All twenty three played their part, But were there All 0:48:34.427 --> 0:48:38.187 Blacks players out there in particular who caught your right today? 0:48:39.627 --> 0:48:42.547 Well, I think Fabigan Hollands had an immense game. And look, 0:48:42.627 --> 0:48:46.187 he probably didn't get as many steals in the line 0:48:46.227 --> 0:48:47.667 out and the line out was a bit ropey that 0:48:47.787 --> 0:48:51.627 the strum was incredibly ropey, But you know that big 0:48:51.707 --> 0:48:53.867 moment where he was able to charge down the kick 0:48:54.147 --> 0:48:56.907 he tried all night, finally got one the timing right 0:48:56.987 --> 0:48:59.467 on that and not only charged it down but stayed 0:48:59.827 --> 0:49:01.827 waiting for the bounce knew that had the presence of 0:49:01.867 --> 0:49:03.227 mind to know where the ball was going to be 0:49:03.987 --> 0:49:06.787 and scored a try from it. So I think that's 0:49:07.267 --> 0:49:09.747 he stood out. I thought, Will Jordan as ever, doesn't 0:49:09.747 --> 0:49:11.707 really have a bad game, does he a couple of 0:49:11.867 --> 0:49:14.747 tries to boot and I think once again, Jordy Barrett 0:49:14.787 --> 0:49:18.067 is just doing immense work to direct the back line. 0:49:18.067 --> 0:49:19.747 And I don't mean to take away from what Ruben 0:49:19.827 --> 0:49:22.347 Love is doing, and he's playing exceptionally well, but Jordy 0:49:22.427 --> 0:49:25.067 Barrett is playing some outstanding rugby just to take some 0:49:25.147 --> 0:49:28.027 pressure off what Ruben Love is doing in the infancy 0:49:28.107 --> 0:49:30.947 of him playing ten at test level. I think Geordie 0:49:30.987 --> 0:49:33.267 stood up again tonight, So those would be three that 0:49:33.347 --> 0:49:35.507 that stood out for me. But you know, apart from 0:49:35.547 --> 0:49:38.667 Ethan degrew To, we've heard was a bit under the weather, 0:49:38.787 --> 0:49:42.907 wasn't really well, left the Captain's run, you know, early yesterday, 0:49:42.947 --> 0:49:45.667 and was basically in bed for most of the night 0:49:45.787 --> 0:49:49.307 last night with illness. So look he got buckled by 0:49:49.347 --> 0:49:51.627 Wilco lower. But but apart from that, it's hard to 0:49:51.627 --> 0:49:53.707 think of an All Black that you know, didn't enhance 0:49:53.787 --> 0:49:54.947 their credentials tonight. 0:49:55.187 --> 0:49:58.307 And being there, I mean I'm very interested in the 0:49:58.467 --> 0:50:01.547 in the the way the mood changed among the South 0:50:01.587 --> 0:50:04.267 African fans. I'm sure they were. They were buoyant and 0:50:04.467 --> 0:50:07.627 confident and and and eating their chest on the way 0:50:07.667 --> 0:50:09.787 to the ground and probably in the first half as well. 0:50:10.107 --> 0:50:12.747 Did you sense the air coming out of that South 0:50:12.787 --> 0:50:14.347 African crowd on the second half? 0:50:15.547 --> 0:50:17.707 Oh, you could feel it. You could absolutely feel it. 0:50:17.827 --> 0:50:20.547 Pine It was like a balloon being popped and it 0:50:20.667 --> 0:50:24.627 was just slowly withering to a death at the end. 0:50:25.667 --> 0:50:27.867 And look that the fans began to leave, you know, 0:50:27.947 --> 0:50:29.627 five or so minutes and maybe a bit more before 0:50:29.667 --> 0:50:30.147 full time. 0:50:31.187 --> 0:50:31.907 That had enough. 0:50:32.187 --> 0:50:34.787 And I think they're really disappointed because as were touched on, 0:50:34.907 --> 0:50:36.707 you know, the spring Box had their noses in front 0:50:36.747 --> 0:50:39.267 for a long part of that game and then disintegrated 0:50:39.347 --> 0:50:42.187 over the last half hour as the All Blacks took control. 0:50:42.227 --> 0:50:43.987 And I thought it was pretty special as well, you know, 0:50:44.067 --> 0:50:46.107 both seems to the lap of honor. But there was 0:50:46.147 --> 0:50:48.867 a patch of All Blacks fans from All Blacks Tours 0:50:49.027 --> 0:50:51.547 or you know, one of the equivalents that were here, 0:50:51.707 --> 0:50:53.667 made a lot of noise through the game, and the 0:50:53.747 --> 0:50:56.547 All blacksman over to you know, appreciate what they brought 0:50:56.587 --> 0:50:59.427 to the occasion today. So I thought that was a 0:50:59.507 --> 0:51:01.827 nice touch. And you know, the All Blacks fans that 0:51:01.907 --> 0:51:05.027 have traveled here, you know halfway across the world, we'll 0:51:05.027 --> 0:51:07.467 be leaving with smiles on their face, and you know 0:51:07.547 --> 0:51:09.427 they'll take those smiles. They'll be beaming all the way 0:51:09.507 --> 0:51:11.627 through to Cape Town when they land there. Ladder in 0:51:11.667 --> 0:51:11.907 the week. 0:51:12.227 --> 0:51:15.027 Money we'll spend for sure for those those hardy supporters. 0:51:15.267 --> 0:51:17.947 Great call, Elliott, thanks indeed for joining us, mate, just 0:51:18.027 --> 0:51:20.787 before you go, I guess and between Tests one and 0:51:20.867 --> 0:51:23.747 two there's the game against the Lions. How will the 0:51:23.827 --> 0:51:25.507 approach be from the All Blacks to that one? 0:51:26.787 --> 0:51:29.187 Well, don't for any said at the media conference that 0:51:29.267 --> 0:51:31.027 some players will have to back up and that's the 0:51:31.147 --> 0:51:34.347 nature of the numbers that they've got on the deck. 0:51:34.467 --> 0:51:36.587 But we know that Ethan de Group won't be there 0:51:36.747 --> 0:51:39.067 on Tuesday, we know josh Alall won't be there on Tuesday, 0:51:39.107 --> 0:51:42.627 and both highly unlikely to play a role next Saturday 0:51:42.627 --> 0:51:44.427 as well. Dave Rinie said they'd have to wait and 0:51:44.507 --> 0:51:47.947 see how the hia's went down sideline and all those 0:51:48.067 --> 0:51:50.227 checks sort of things. So I wouldn't suspect they'll be back, 0:51:50.307 --> 0:51:51.907 but they're going to have to piece together a team 0:51:51.907 --> 0:51:53.787 pretty quickly. As it stands, it's going to be named 0:51:53.787 --> 0:51:57.147 about four o'clock tomorrow afternoon local time. It's two am 0:51:57.467 --> 0:52:00.107 New Zealand. So they'll get back to the hotel tonight, 0:52:00.187 --> 0:52:03.307 they'll contemplate what they do and then some players that 0:52:03.387 --> 0:52:05.707 have put in big shifts tonight will have to come 0:52:05.747 --> 0:52:07.747 out and do it all again again at Alice Park 0:52:07.787 --> 0:52:09.547 against the Lines on Tuesday night, our time. 0:52:09.667 --> 0:52:12.347 Fantastic, great work, Elliott, Thanks for joining us on Weekend 0:52:12.387 --> 0:52:15.267 Sport this afternoon. Jef Funny, Thank you mate. That's Elliott Smith. 0:52:15.307 --> 0:52:18.787 Of course you'll know the voice our match commentator, rugby editor. 0:52:18.867 --> 0:52:22.427 Another superb call by him. Your call now one to eighteen. 0:52:22.507 --> 0:52:25.227 We'll keep talking rugby for a bit James mcconey before two, 0:52:25.587 --> 0:52:27.787 going to pivot away to the Warriors after two, when 0:52:27.787 --> 0:52:30.227 Andrew Webster joins us. But if you couldn't get through 0:52:30.267 --> 0:52:31.707 before one and you'd like to have yoursel on the 0:52:31.747 --> 0:52:33.707 All Blacks, please do so. Oh eight hundred and eighty 0:52:33.827 --> 0:52:38.747 ten eighty All opinions are welcome on this show. Jazz 0:52:38.907 --> 0:52:42.547 on email, Jason. Fantastic gamer Rugby. The All Blacks showed 0:52:42.627 --> 0:52:45.387 a resilience I haven't seen since the early days of 0:52:45.467 --> 0:52:49.707 Steve Henson's glory days as coach. We also saw clear 0:52:49.747 --> 0:52:52.587 evidence of the team adapting and changing the game plan 0:52:52.747 --> 0:52:54.627 and saying that I do think we caught a clunky 0:52:54.707 --> 0:52:58.147 box team blowing out some early season cobwebs. Jazz goes 0:52:58.187 --> 0:52:59.907 on to say credit to Matthew Carley for trying to 0:52:59.947 --> 0:53:02.987 he let the game flow. His communication was clear. He 0:53:03.067 --> 0:53:05.587 seemed to make calls evenly between the two teams, even 0:53:05.627 --> 0:53:08.507 with the TMO and touches trying the best to intervene 0:53:08.587 --> 0:53:11.747 with incorrect calls. Love seeing a ref over all the TOMO, 0:53:11.867 --> 0:53:13.587 but use him when it was required. Bring on the 0:53:13.667 --> 0:53:15.427 rest of the series. It is going to be a cracker. 0:53:15.707 --> 0:53:18.347 Thanks Jazz, great email, great points well made, just on 0:53:18.507 --> 0:53:21.587 the replacement players that have come in. If you hadn't 0:53:21.627 --> 0:53:25.027 caught up with this offer, took the Fussy and Jamie 0:53:25.147 --> 0:53:29.867 Hannah hopping on a plane today they are over in 0:53:29.987 --> 0:53:33.467 South Africa as injury cover for Ethan de Groot and 0:53:33.627 --> 0:53:36.427 Josh Lord. You would have seen those two players exit 0:53:36.907 --> 0:53:39.347 late in the first half after a head clash between 0:53:39.427 --> 0:53:41.747 the two of them, so Offer took on the fussy 0:53:41.827 --> 0:53:44.947 and Jamie Hannah, a very experienced prop forward and a 0:53:45.027 --> 0:53:48.187 rather inexperienced Lockford jumping on a plane to go over 0:53:48.347 --> 0:53:51.107 and join the party in South Africa today. They should 0:53:51.107 --> 0:53:54.067 be there Monday morning. I doubt they'll be available for Tuesday, 0:53:54.147 --> 0:53:55.747 but good to have them there as injury cover. 0:53:56.067 --> 0:54:00.667 Hello Mark Jay Piney. Well, no one died, but someone 0:54:00.787 --> 0:54:03.707 nearly got cut in half of a few people nearly did. 0:54:03.707 --> 0:54:06.787 In the first one hundred and twenty seconds, there was 0:54:06.827 --> 0:54:10.187 the most ferocious opening to a rugby dismatch I've seen 0:54:10.667 --> 0:54:14.787 in a very very long time. I was apprehensive for 0:54:14.947 --> 0:54:20.227 life and limb and limbs especially that they withstood that. 0:54:20.947 --> 0:54:27.627 The oldest slaught was just unbelievable. And look, I think 0:54:27.667 --> 0:54:30.227 the men stood up. They stood up in the face 0:54:30.307 --> 0:54:34.307 of it. Was just the physicality of that fifty That 0:54:34.467 --> 0:54:39.027 opening fifty five was something the likes of which will 0:54:39.067 --> 0:54:42.387 be written about and spoken about for probably a really 0:54:42.507 --> 0:54:47.227 long time and reference rightfully so. But they came through. 0:54:47.307 --> 0:54:49.547 And the two names that stand out for me outside 0:54:49.547 --> 0:54:55.147 of our eighty, outside of our eleven guys we cycled 0:54:55.227 --> 0:55:00.387 through through through the back was Jordy Barrett was tot 0:55:00.627 --> 0:55:06.227 was towering, but Quinti Pier made some sublime little moments 0:55:06.867 --> 0:55:08.947 when he needed to do his job, and he did 0:55:09.027 --> 0:55:13.467 his job absolutely on point in that fifty twenty kick. 0:55:14.667 --> 0:55:17.027 Basically they secured the game to get us down the 0:55:17.107 --> 0:55:21.987 air and wind out the clock was to me, he 0:55:22.107 --> 0:55:25.787 was just oh yeh gem after all that pressure. 0:55:25.947 --> 0:55:29.347 Yeah, I felt the same yeah as the balls bouncing 0:55:29.387 --> 0:55:31.667 towards the line. I was going, come on, you can 0:55:31.707 --> 0:55:34.907 think that Quintu Pie You don't really you don't really 0:55:34.947 --> 0:55:36.467 think of him as a You don't think of his 0:55:36.587 --> 0:55:38.187 kicking game. When you think of Quintu Paie, you think 0:55:38.187 --> 0:55:40.947 of that robust defense, you know, his ability to bend 0:55:40.987 --> 0:55:43.227 and break a line. You don't normally think about his 0:55:43.347 --> 0:55:45.827 kicking game. I think because the camera went on him 0:55:46.027 --> 0:55:48.907 afterwards that I think he almost surprised himself a little 0:55:48.947 --> 0:55:49.427 bit as well. 0:55:50.187 --> 0:55:50.347 Well. 0:55:50.387 --> 0:55:52.107 He found the space and took it to the right 0:55:52.147 --> 0:55:53.907 hand side of his body to keep it away, but 0:55:54.187 --> 0:55:57.467 the oncoming you know, I had the ability to spread 0:55:57.507 --> 0:56:00.227 his body wide to shut down the angle that he had, 0:56:00.707 --> 0:56:03.227 and he got it through that sort of small pocket 0:56:03.267 --> 0:56:04.827 that he was going to get, got it low and 0:56:04.947 --> 0:56:08.107 it did everything it needed to do, but across the 0:56:08.227 --> 0:56:10.987 paddic look, the defensive screen that the All Blacks ran 0:56:11.067 --> 0:56:14.347 when the spring box came into our heart was risky 0:56:14.587 --> 0:56:18.227 as all. The fact that we did not let our 0:56:18.267 --> 0:56:22.027 smaller men anywherey of the middle. You see McKenzie out 0:56:22.107 --> 0:56:24.787 on one wing and there's Love on the other, and 0:56:25.027 --> 0:56:27.907 they were they were told, I should imagine you are 0:56:27.987 --> 0:56:31.707 not to be within twenty yards of any forward because 0:56:31.707 --> 0:56:34.947 they just would have been run over. They just absolutely 0:56:34.987 --> 0:56:37.267 physically would have been you know, they would have been 0:56:37.267 --> 0:56:39.787 a whekplink in the chain. It was risky to keep 0:56:39.827 --> 0:56:42.147 them out the back as wide as we did because 0:56:42.187 --> 0:56:45.347 we didn't really run a fullback, but we did it. 0:56:45.707 --> 0:56:49.307 We pulled it off and one Neil, let's go. 0:56:50.067 --> 0:56:53.827 Let's go make let's go mate. Indeed, obviously I tend 0:56:53.907 --> 0:56:55.587 to take notes as I watching a game just so 0:56:55.667 --> 0:56:58.627 I remember stuff, and I've got written down here. Well, 0:56:58.667 --> 0:57:01.627 the first line I've got here is Hakka silence. And 0:57:01.707 --> 0:57:04.587 then once the game started early All Blacks eras South 0:57:04.627 --> 0:57:07.547 Africa very physical, That's how it felt in the first 0:57:07.867 --> 0:57:09.347 two or three minutes of the game. And then they 0:57:09.387 --> 0:57:11.667 got a penalty and went three in nol Up. They 0:57:11.787 --> 0:57:14.707 came out firing, they did, and I'm not sure that 0:57:14.747 --> 0:57:16.987 the All Blacks were caught on the hop necessarily, but 0:57:17.227 --> 0:57:22.027 it was just so brutal the way South Africa started 0:57:22.067 --> 0:57:24.667 the game. But to give the All Blacks immense credit, 0:57:25.387 --> 0:57:28.347 they adjusted quickly and then Will Jordan scored the try 0:57:28.387 --> 0:57:32.627 and they went ahead. There's Richie over there, asks for Roscoe. Yep, 0:57:32.707 --> 0:57:35.427 Richie Molong is there and will no doubt play on Tuesday. 0:57:36.427 --> 0:57:38.107 Be interesting to see how Richie goes back in the 0:57:38.107 --> 0:57:41.067 black jersey. Not going to make the Test side next week. 0:57:41.227 --> 0:57:43.347 I think apart from injury and force changes, there won't 0:57:43.347 --> 0:57:45.507 be any changes to the Test side for next week. 0:57:45.507 --> 0:57:48.027 Why would you change that team? But yes, Richie is 0:57:48.107 --> 0:57:50.747 there and he'll be in a black jersey on Wednesday 0:57:50.787 --> 0:57:53.307 morning when the All Blacks take on the Lions. They're 0:57:53.347 --> 0:57:58.267 still in Johannesburg. Nate, Hello mate, Hey Nate here, How 0:57:58.307 --> 0:57:59.787 are you very good? Thanks? 0:57:59.867 --> 0:58:00.027 Nate? 0:58:00.067 --> 0:58:00.747 Did you enjoy that? 0:58:01.427 --> 0:58:01.587 Oh? 0:58:01.707 --> 0:58:03.627 Absolutely love that. My son and I we go up 0:58:04.507 --> 0:58:08.427 and watched it at three am prior to the to 0:58:08.547 --> 0:58:10.187 the match. We've got a bit of a of a 0:58:10.227 --> 0:58:13.947 sports family chat and so oh oh oh they felt 0:58:13.987 --> 0:58:17.827 that the the Springboks starting sifting was better than your backs. 0:58:17.867 --> 0:58:19.467 I said, well, that may be, I said, but I 0:58:19.507 --> 0:58:21.347 feel that we've got the better bench. And that was 0:58:21.427 --> 0:58:22.627 absolutely the case, audn't it. 0:58:23.067 --> 0:58:25.867 You bang on, You know, you've you've absolutely nailed where 0:58:25.907 --> 0:58:28.627 the you know, where the strength of the All Blacks 0:58:28.747 --> 0:58:31.267 was this morning. You look at what Bower and Null 0:58:31.347 --> 0:58:34.547 in particular Nate did off the bench and the impact 0:58:34.587 --> 0:58:35.147 that they had. 0:58:35.507 --> 0:58:38.867 You know, as soon as they came on, the issues 0:58:38.867 --> 0:58:40.707 that we're having with the scrums had just disappeared. 0:58:42.547 --> 0:58:45.387 Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, no, it's a good point, Nate. 0:58:45.427 --> 0:58:47.267 It's a good point. I think I don't think Ethan 0:58:47.347 --> 0:58:48.027 de Greet was right. 0:58:48.187 --> 0:58:48.907 You know that he was. 0:58:49.027 --> 0:58:50.907 He was unwell and I think he'd done his knee. 0:58:51.227 --> 0:58:54.307 He wasn't right, and I mean lone backs. It was 0:58:54.347 --> 0:58:57.067 interesting because he's normally a very good scrummager and but 0:58:57.147 --> 0:58:58.907 I think it was mainly the pressure going on Ethan 0:58:58.947 --> 0:59:01.467 to Groot's site. Not that I'm a scrum doctor, of course, 0:59:01.547 --> 0:59:05.707 but you're right when nule And and Bauer turned up 0:59:05.747 --> 0:59:09.267 and a suffer more things really solidified in that front row. 0:59:10.347 --> 0:59:15.027 Oh absolutely. And one thing that Holland's first try. What 0:59:15.187 --> 0:59:17.347 a way to score your first try, right. 0:59:19.067 --> 0:59:21.067 The charge down he must have. It must feel so 0:59:21.267 --> 0:59:23.147 good when you come through and you charge it down 0:59:23.627 --> 0:59:25.307 and then you see because it can go anywhere, can't it? 0:59:25.507 --> 0:59:27.147 And then you see it bounce up and you think, man, 0:59:27.187 --> 0:59:29.427 I can get that and dotting down. There was a 0:59:29.467 --> 0:59:31.747 turning point. There was the turning point. Did what was 0:59:31.827 --> 0:59:35.107 the score when he when he got that got that 0:59:35.267 --> 0:59:37.307 charge down? That was when the All Blacks went ahead 0:59:38.027 --> 0:59:40.667 nineteen sixteen. It was the turning point of the game. 0:59:41.067 --> 0:59:43.427 Glad you enjoyed it. Nate, go back anytime, mate. Oh 0:59:43.467 --> 0:59:50.507 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty our number a shaiyay. 0:59:48.227 --> 0:59:54.827 Bunny, very quick things, the size, intimidation and in chensely 0:59:55.547 --> 1:00:01.107 of the box it saved. But I do think the 1:00:01.227 --> 1:00:04.547 way we buy it seem because if you look at 1:00:04.667 --> 1:00:09.067 the physical bulk of guys in the midfield and across. 1:00:08.747 --> 1:00:10.947 The across the park, you know, ox. 1:00:10.867 --> 1:00:14.947 Inside, massive men. And we played a quick game as 1:00:15.027 --> 1:00:18.627 beast as we could, tired them and the guy who 1:00:18.787 --> 1:00:22.627 really stood out for me, Jordy Barrett, his tack playing 1:00:22.747 --> 1:00:26.307 through the center of midfield. Time and again it was 1:00:26.387 --> 1:00:30.667 some against some Lonster and he took him down even 1:00:30.827 --> 1:00:34.787 the time. It was ridiculously good defense of display. 1:00:35.627 --> 1:00:40.507 And as they say, sorry, he was good any he 1:00:40.587 --> 1:00:42.787 was good anyway. Jordy was a good player before he 1:00:42.867 --> 1:00:45.267 went to Ireland for that, for that sabbatical with Leinster. 1:00:45.747 --> 1:00:48.827 I think he has come back just to I mean, 1:00:49.547 --> 1:00:52.627 he's just a brilliant player now, Jordy Barrett on both 1:00:52.707 --> 1:00:54.827 sides of the ball, but defensively, as you say, I 1:00:54.907 --> 1:00:57.027 mean he made more tackles in that game than anybody else. 1:00:57.107 --> 1:01:00.107 Fifteen tackles he made, and some of them were very 1:01:00.147 --> 1:01:01.987 important ones. He stopped that tray on the line from 1:01:01.987 --> 1:01:04.707 Malcolm Marx. He held up Visa a couple of times. 1:01:05.147 --> 1:01:09.027 He is such an important cog in the All Blacks 1:01:09.067 --> 1:01:11.747 machine now, Jordi's. 1:01:11.107 --> 1:01:17.067 That helped stop the bogs on and then put us 1:01:17.387 --> 1:01:18.827 on that foot that might have been. 1:01:20.867 --> 1:01:23.267 Yep, bang on Ash. Your phone is just starting to fail, 1:01:23.307 --> 1:01:25.467 youre mate, but we got your points. Thanks for calling 1:01:25.547 --> 1:01:28.627 in one twenty seven oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1:01:28.627 --> 1:01:30.387 He still got a few more minutes heaps of text 1:01:30.427 --> 1:01:31.587 to get through. I can get to some of those, 1:01:31.627 --> 1:01:33.387 but if you want to make a final point or 1:01:33.427 --> 1:01:36.027 two about the All Blacks from here. As I say 1:01:36.147 --> 1:01:39.707 they go to Johannesburg, they're already in Johannesburg. They don't 1:01:39.707 --> 1:01:42.267 have to go anywhere. I pretend they even stay in 1:01:42.307 --> 1:01:46.627 the same hotel. So they play the Lions Wednesday morning, 1:01:46.747 --> 1:01:49.347 New Zealand time, and then it's to Cape Town next 1:01:49.427 --> 1:01:52.947 Sunday for the third Test, and then back up to Johannesburg, 1:01:53.027 --> 1:01:55.987 but to Soccer City that's the stadium at Soweto that 1:01:56.067 --> 1:01:57.867 was built for the Football World Cup in twenty ten. 1:01:58.307 --> 1:02:02.747 That's the third Test, and then across to Baltimore. One 1:02:02.787 --> 1:02:05.307 of the great things about the series is exactly that 1:02:05.547 --> 1:02:08.347 that it's a serien. The narrative of this series is 1:02:08.427 --> 1:02:10.987 going to be built over four matches, not just one 1:02:12.067 --> 1:02:15.907 great game this morning and brilliant discussion about it. But 1:02:16.107 --> 1:02:19.627 it forms part of what will become an ongoing narrative. 1:02:19.987 --> 1:02:24.707 Can you imagine Cape Town next Sunday? Can you possibly 1:02:24.827 --> 1:02:30.747 conceive how desperate South Africa are going to be biggest 1:02:30.787 --> 1:02:35.147 test match for Rassi Erasmus in a long long time, 1:02:36.187 --> 1:02:39.027 a long long time. One twenty eight back in a 1:02:39.027 --> 1:02:40.227 second weekend sport. 1:02:41.347 --> 1:02:45.387 From grassroots to the grand Stand Weekend Sport with Jason 1:02:45.467 --> 1:02:48.787 Vine and the audi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition 1:02:48.907 --> 1:02:53.427 from one thirty ninety or eight hundred eighty News Talks. 1:02:53.187 --> 1:02:56.187 And B four meters short, all backs one and quick 1:02:56.227 --> 1:03:01.147 for right. God, lo't take it, sad over try, We'll 1:03:01.227 --> 1:03:03.507 take it. Since first Test Ryan five years. 1:03:03.547 --> 1:03:06.587 First Test try in five years. Luke Jacobson, he's made 1:03:06.587 --> 1:03:08.867 that number seven jersey his own, hasn't he. I've said 1:03:08.867 --> 1:03:11.507 a few times on the show if we'd all sort 1:03:11.507 --> 1:03:15.347 of had a poll during Super Rugby as to what 1:03:15.467 --> 1:03:18.787 the all black side might look like, and if I'd said, here, okay, 1:03:18.867 --> 1:03:22.067 you tell me who was going to play in the 1:03:22.147 --> 1:03:26.107 number seven jersey in all three matches in July in 1:03:26.187 --> 1:03:31.347 the Nation's Championship and will start in Johannesburg against South 1:03:31.387 --> 1:03:35.947 Africa in the First Test as well, I would say 1:03:35.987 --> 1:03:38.187 that very few of you would have said Luke Jacobson. 1:03:38.467 --> 1:03:41.907 But you have to give it to Dave Rennie and 1:03:42.067 --> 1:03:46.467 to Luke Jacobson. He has been terrific, really really good, 1:03:46.507 --> 1:03:50.307 hasn't he? A very different number seven from some of 1:03:50.347 --> 1:03:53.467 the players who have worn that jersey in recent times, 1:03:54.107 --> 1:04:01.427 but absolutely understands clearly Dave Rennie's requirements and has repaid 1:04:01.467 --> 1:04:07.507 the faith fletchernel off the bench and a big part 1:04:07.747 --> 1:04:10.987 of the way that the All Blacks problems solved in 1:04:11.107 --> 1:04:13.227 terms of getting their scrum right. Pleach and you all 1:04:13.267 --> 1:04:15.627 spoke to the to the KEYWI media after the game 1:04:15.667 --> 1:04:18.627 and he was asked about how the scrum turned things around, 1:04:18.667 --> 1:04:20.147 particularly after halftime. 1:04:20.747 --> 1:04:22.907 Yeah, like you said, I think it was a night 1:04:22.947 --> 1:04:26.747 of solutions. Really proud on how we were able to 1:04:26.787 --> 1:04:30.307 problem solve out there. We know our scrum wasn't at 1:04:30.347 --> 1:04:33.547 its best one hundred percent of that game, but yeah, 1:04:33.627 --> 1:04:35.667 really proud of the boys that came on. They were 1:04:35.747 --> 1:04:39.107 problem solved in some really high pressure moments. And Yeah, 1:04:39.147 --> 1:04:41.067 to really rely on our scrum in that last fifteen 1:04:41.067 --> 1:04:42.907 minutes was really refelling. 1:04:42.747 --> 1:04:45.827 The period in the mid fifteen minutes mark when they 1:04:45.947 --> 1:04:48.227 took all those scrums and won all those pedal reason 1:04:48.787 --> 1:04:50.467 keep there yet, I mean, what did that take to 1:04:50.987 --> 1:04:52.427 survive that unscanned that. 1:04:52.947 --> 1:04:54.547 I think it took a lot of a trust that 1:04:54.627 --> 1:04:57.547 we've built over the last well this year so far 1:04:57.667 --> 1:05:03.427 on the few games we've had, probably showed the connection 1:05:03.547 --> 1:05:06.307 of the group to come out of those high pressure moments, 1:05:08.347 --> 1:05:10.467 and yeah, a lot of buying from the pack that 1:05:10.507 --> 1:05:12.427 we've been working on over the last couple of weeks. 1:05:12.507 --> 1:05:14.707 Obviously we know the challenge scrum time that the spring 1:05:14.787 --> 1:05:16.587 Box bring and like I said, we didn't get it 1:05:16.667 --> 1:05:19.107 right one hundred percent of the time, but really happy 1:05:19.187 --> 1:05:21.667 with how the buy in has been. It's about to 1:05:21.707 --> 1:05:22.947 execute in those high prision moments. 1:05:22.947 --> 1:05:25.347 Where did technical adjustments or was it all just dictate stuff? 1:05:26.467 --> 1:05:30.587 That is definitely technical adjustments, but yeah, it was a 1:05:30.627 --> 1:05:35.507 bit of dig deep stuff. Yeah, I think we're spoken 1:05:35.547 --> 1:05:37.987 a lot around our set piece and where we want 1:05:38.027 --> 1:05:38.387 to get it to. 1:05:39.227 --> 1:05:42.747 It was awesome to test it against the world's best tonight, but. 1:05:42.827 --> 1:05:44.387 We know that we've got to be a lot better 1:05:44.467 --> 1:05:46.307 and what's going to come next week is going to be. 1:05:46.307 --> 1:05:47.307 Even even more so. 1:05:47.547 --> 1:05:51.907 Yeah, clature, that's gorun fifty five minutes when the when 1:05:51.947 --> 1:05:53.907 the penalty is going to be remembered in history is 1:05:53.987 --> 1:05:56.867 the turning point and that gain did you did you 1:05:56.947 --> 1:05:58.707 feel that at the time when you won the penalty, 1:05:58.747 --> 1:06:00.307 did you sense up was going to be the moment 1:06:00.387 --> 1:06:01.267 to change the momentum? 1:06:02.987 --> 1:06:05.507 I think at the moment where it's quite hard. 1:06:05.387 --> 1:06:08.507 To know what's a big moment or what's not. But 1:06:09.307 --> 1:06:12.507 it gave us a lot of energy. We were pretty 1:06:12.547 --> 1:06:15.307 under it out there at that stage. Leagues were gone. 1:06:15.387 --> 1:06:18.627 But we're really proud that moments like that was able 1:06:18.667 --> 1:06:20.907 to give us energy to take into other areas of 1:06:20.987 --> 1:06:21.347 our game. 1:06:22.707 --> 1:06:24.387 The back's got a lot of energy from it. 1:06:24.627 --> 1:06:25.187 Gave them. 1:06:27.067 --> 1:06:28.907 Trust in our set piece to be able to call 1:06:28.987 --> 1:06:30.667 those scrums in the last moments of the game. So 1:06:31.187 --> 1:06:33.867 but like I said, this sundy bigger coming next week 1:06:34.107 --> 1:06:36.347 to spring Bok Pack and we're really proud of it. 1:06:36.467 --> 1:06:37.747 But we know we've got to be a lot better 1:06:37.827 --> 1:06:39.147 because I wasn't up. 1:06:39.147 --> 1:06:43.307 To standard for better that game is Fletcher Nell, speaking 1:06:43.347 --> 1:06:45.587 to the New Zealand media after the game. I've just 1:06:45.627 --> 1:06:49.987 got three texts here which all basically say the same 1:06:50.107 --> 1:06:53.827 thing from three different people. Jason take note. Changing took 1:06:53.827 --> 1:06:55.907 p or Viti to lock at the same time as 1:06:55.947 --> 1:06:59.627 the new front row stabilized them great wind, says David Scrumb. 1:06:59.667 --> 1:07:01.907 Also improved when moved to locks. There's this one. Don't 1:07:01.907 --> 1:07:04.307 forget about the change at lock and blindside flankap in 1:07:04.427 --> 1:07:06.947 respect of the scrum improvement, says Michael Basically at the 1:07:06.947 --> 1:07:09.627 same time as the prop change. It's an interesting point. 1:07:10.867 --> 1:07:15.147 They clearly like Tupaul vi Ey in that six jersey, 1:07:16.627 --> 1:07:19.587 and when Josh Lord had to go off today that 1:07:19.787 --> 1:07:22.347 was obviously earlier than they would have made the change. 1:07:22.867 --> 1:07:25.307 But the tactic or the strategy or whatever you want 1:07:25.347 --> 1:07:28.067 to call it, is probably two Paul Viti starts at 1:07:28.147 --> 1:07:33.147 six and then in the second half, as circumstances dictate, 1:07:33.747 --> 1:07:36.907 he moves into the second row with one of the 1:07:36.987 --> 1:07:40.747 locks going off, and certainly that's the strategy because there's 1:07:40.747 --> 1:07:43.867 no lock cover on the bench. What that does do 1:07:44.147 --> 1:07:48.747 is it means that one or two of Viy and 1:07:48.867 --> 1:07:50.987 the two locks have to play eighty minutes. And when 1:07:51.107 --> 1:07:53.427 Laud went off, Fabian Holland knew it to play eighty minutes, 1:07:54.107 --> 1:07:56.787 and I'm sure that he relished it. It looked like 1:07:56.867 --> 1:07:58.947 he did, didn't it. A few more texts to get 1:07:58.987 --> 1:08:01.267 through here. As we come towards the end of our 1:08:01.267 --> 1:08:03.227 all black chat for today, Jason my player of the match, 1:08:03.307 --> 1:08:07.267 no bias, says Tony was Jordi Barrett Ain's fan. Tony 1:08:07.867 --> 1:08:10.707 Aiden says, I'm proud of that performance and Wellington we 1:08:10.827 --> 1:08:13.507 were lost and gave up against the mass and the 1:08:13.587 --> 1:08:17.227 might of South Africa this morning. We absorbed and adapted, 1:08:17.907 --> 1:08:22.667 showed resilience and intelligence and outlasted them. I'm excited to 1:08:22.747 --> 1:08:25.387 test too, as it's easier for the All Blacks to 1:08:25.467 --> 1:08:29.027 add accuracy to our emerging game plan then force South 1:08:29.067 --> 1:08:33.067 Africa to add fitness to their bulk. Thanks Aidan Piney sensational. 1:08:33.107 --> 1:08:34.547 What a day to be a key we, says Jes 1:08:35.947 --> 1:08:37.987 Up the Wise, the Abs and the Black Ferns Man. 1:08:38.067 --> 1:08:40.227 The ab soaked up some pressure today and took their 1:08:40.347 --> 1:08:43.347 chances when they came. Fabian Holland my man of the match, 1:08:43.787 --> 1:08:47.907 Thanks Jesse. Jason. Even chat GPT got the score massively wrong, 1:08:48.027 --> 1:08:51.267 says Tony. I have faith in humanity again, and all 1:08:51.307 --> 1:08:54.067 respect to Rennie and the squad over in South Africa. 1:08:54.147 --> 1:08:57.347 How good were a Sapfua Moor and George Bauer. No 1:08:57.547 --> 1:09:01.067 need to overanalyze this when apart from mentioning Rennie's superpower 1:09:01.707 --> 1:09:04.547 in dismantling South African sides from super rugby to their 1:09:04.627 --> 1:09:07.427 national team. Let's sign them along to to the next 1:09:07.507 --> 1:09:10.787 World Cup after this one, Thanks Tony. Vicky, says Jason. 1:09:10.867 --> 1:09:13.307 Just watching Bill Blacks replay now, so I'm not listening. Sorry, 1:09:13.587 --> 1:09:14.987 but I wanted to give a mess of shout out 1:09:14.987 --> 1:09:19.067 to the referee. How refreshing that he backed his own decisions, 1:09:19.747 --> 1:09:22.787 wasn't swayed by the var never a high tackle from Artie. 1:09:23.187 --> 1:09:26.267 Well done that common sense prevailed. Couldn't agree more. Vicky 1:09:26.307 --> 1:09:28.787 couldn't agree more. Damien McKenzie spoke to the New Zealand 1:09:28.827 --> 1:09:30.387 media afterwards as well. 1:09:30.907 --> 1:09:33.387 Damien, I center call a couple of years ago he 1:09:33.467 --> 1:09:35.307 came here and blew a ten point leads. What does 1:09:35.347 --> 1:09:36.707 it mean to to come away with a victory at 1:09:36.707 --> 1:09:37.227 Alis Park? 1:09:38.307 --> 1:09:41.547 Yeah, it's very rewarding. You know, we've been planning for 1:09:41.627 --> 1:09:44.587 this tour for a long time. In this first test, 1:09:44.627 --> 1:09:47.827 obviously it Verehria leading the way world's best at the moment, 1:09:47.947 --> 1:09:52.067 so to come away with a great one is extremely satisfying. 1:09:52.107 --> 1:09:54.627 So we're extremely proud of that effort. We know it's 1:09:54.667 --> 1:09:56.947 just to start for us, so we need to take 1:09:57.027 --> 1:09:58.827 out of it. But right now we have to enjoy 1:09:58.867 --> 1:09:59.267 the windows. 1:09:59.587 --> 1:10:00.107 What did it take? 1:10:00.347 --> 1:10:01.867 It felt like maybe you're out for the counter, but 1:10:01.947 --> 1:10:03.987 you just kept withstanding those punchers. 1:10:04.427 --> 1:10:07.667 Yeah, wee a lot of punches in that first half 1:10:07.707 --> 1:10:12.627 and to go down losing by one point after the 1:10:12.667 --> 1:10:13.107 first half. 1:10:13.547 --> 1:10:14.227 It was pretty good. 1:10:14.227 --> 1:10:15.507 To be fair, they threw a lot at us, and 1:10:16.547 --> 1:10:20.067 now we knew the challenge that they they posed against us, 1:10:20.107 --> 1:10:23.387 and they threw everything at us. And to be able to, yeah, 1:10:23.467 --> 1:10:25.747 be one point down at the half was pretty good 1:10:25.747 --> 1:10:27.067 for us. And then when you when we get our 1:10:27.107 --> 1:10:28.507 opportunities and we got a few of those in the 1:10:28.547 --> 1:10:31.027 second half which been able to an hour a couple 1:10:31.427 --> 1:10:33.507 a couple of those were great and to put ourselves 1:10:33.547 --> 1:10:35.827 with a decent lead there was satisfying. 1:10:36.027 --> 1:10:38.147 Made a great breakdown field. Did you begin to think 1:10:38.187 --> 1:10:40.307 you were finding gaps as a team around the park? 1:10:41.067 --> 1:10:45.267 Yeah, have an outstanding kicking game, and they put us 1:10:45.307 --> 1:10:48.227 under a bit appreciator tonight and then a couple of 1:10:48.267 --> 1:10:49.947 times we were able to defuse that. We sort of 1:10:49.947 --> 1:10:52.267 were able to create a couple opportunities and sneak through 1:10:52.307 --> 1:10:54.547 a few holes and he was able to It was 1:10:54.627 --> 1:10:56.107 nice to be able to just ride that momentum and 1:10:56.867 --> 1:10:59.667 try and stay on top. And especially against the FAW, 1:10:59.707 --> 1:11:02.547 you give them any snaff for an inch, they'll take it. 1:11:02.707 --> 1:11:05.587 So yeah, very pleasing. How we came out in that 1:11:05.587 --> 1:11:07.427 second half and round play a bit more rugby. 1:11:07.347 --> 1:11:10.587 Darmian, it's not your area of expertise, but what did 1:11:10.627 --> 1:11:12.227 you How proud were you of I guess of the 1:11:12.307 --> 1:11:14.707 guys in the scrum and to think of the pressure 1:11:14.747 --> 1:11:16.587 they are under and the constant pressure and then they 1:11:16.667 --> 1:11:19.067 found a way out right, I mean, how amazing to 1:11:19.107 --> 1:11:19.907 watch that from deeper. 1:11:20.627 --> 1:11:23.227 Yeah, it's great to watch. I don't know too much 1:11:23.267 --> 1:11:26.267 of the technical stuff about the scrums, but obviously to ACA, 1:11:26.307 --> 1:11:28.627 I've got an outstanding set piece and for our boys 1:11:28.667 --> 1:11:30.907 and our bench to come on and really locked down 1:11:30.947 --> 1:11:33.987 the scrum and and our line out time was Oh, 1:11:34.067 --> 1:11:36.027 it's always pleasing as a as a back to be 1:11:36.067 --> 1:11:38.947 able to see that and have tsair penalty advantage or 1:11:38.947 --> 1:11:39.707 a free play at it. 1:11:39.787 --> 1:11:42.467 And obviously South. 1:11:42.347 --> 1:11:44.747 Africa pride themselves on this set piece. To be able 1:11:44.747 --> 1:11:48.187 to match them tonight and get some reward deal was 1:11:48.627 --> 1:11:51.107 extremely pleasing from a backsported you anyway, how big. 1:11:50.987 --> 1:11:52.867 To draw first blood in this series. 1:11:52.547 --> 1:11:55.107 And you play from in front as it were, Oh, 1:11:55.187 --> 1:11:58.507 it's it's extremely satisfying. But we obviously now it's it's 1:11:58.627 --> 1:12:01.067 three more tests, so we've got to keep our feet 1:12:01.107 --> 1:12:03.707 firmly on the ground. Obviously, test rugby is not easy 1:12:03.747 --> 1:12:06.907 and to win over here ours parks as as no 1:12:07.067 --> 1:12:08.827 mean feat. So first of all we have to obviously 1:12:08.947 --> 1:12:10.627 enjoy that, but we have to move on pretty quickly. 1:12:11.067 --> 1:12:13.107 We've got another game on Tuesday against the Lines and 1:12:13.147 --> 1:12:16.147 then the Test down in Cape Town, and so we've 1:12:16.187 --> 1:12:17.707 got two got a team to just sit back and 1:12:18.547 --> 1:12:20.547 I'll throw everything at us next week. So yeah, we'll 1:12:20.627 --> 1:12:22.787 enjoy tonight, but obviously really important we've got to move 1:12:22.827 --> 1:12:24.267 on pretty quickly and I'll. 1:12:24.107 --> 1:12:25.667 Get around the boys playing on Tuesday and in the 1:12:25.707 --> 1:12:26.147 next test. 1:12:26.307 --> 1:12:28.747 I'm don't want to get too bogged down and the technicalities, 1:12:28.747 --> 1:12:32.107 but the high ball battle, they started to retrieve almost 1:12:32.147 --> 1:12:33.787 everything that we're putting up for a period there. 1:12:33.907 --> 1:12:36.547 What do you think was happening at that point. 1:12:37.307 --> 1:12:40.747 Yeah, they've got a great kicking game and we probably 1:12:40.787 --> 1:12:44.067 didn't diffuse as many as we would have liked. I 1:12:44.147 --> 1:12:47.027 guess now with a lot of the time ball getting 1:12:47.027 --> 1:12:49.147 bettered around, it's about jumping on the scraps as quickly 1:12:49.187 --> 1:12:52.587 as possible. We probably well, times we're okay, and then 1:12:52.707 --> 1:12:55.147 times we probably need to improve a little bit in 1:12:55.227 --> 1:12:58.907 the following up in the series, but it's obviously a 1:12:58.947 --> 1:13:00.467 real strength of these They got guys who are great 1:13:00.467 --> 1:13:00.907 in the air, and. 1:13:01.627 --> 1:13:03.787 We'll have a look at it and try and improve 1:13:03.827 --> 1:13:04.667 on it throughout the next week. 1:13:04.787 --> 1:13:07.587 There you go. Damien mckein's with his thoughts with the 1:13:07.627 --> 1:13:11.427 New Zealand media after the game. Don't forget, Patty says, 1:13:11.507 --> 1:13:14.467 don't forget the Magpies. Boney Love on the show. On 1:13:14.547 --> 1:13:18.467 the slow drive back to Hawks Bay post Beervanner beer Vanna. Yes, 1:13:19.387 --> 1:13:23.467 a lot of a lot of beer enthusiasts shall we 1:13:23.547 --> 1:13:25.907 call them? And Wellington across the weekend for Beavanner at 1:13:25.947 --> 1:13:29.427 Henry Stadium. Drive safe, Patty, I presume you're not actually 1:13:29.507 --> 1:13:32.067 driving them, mate, if you're texting, so good to hear 1:13:32.107 --> 1:13:34.267 from you. And I won't forget the Magpies. I thought, Yeah, 1:13:34.427 --> 1:13:35.187 what are they fall from? 1:13:35.227 --> 1:13:35.387 Four? 1:13:35.667 --> 1:13:39.427 Four bonus point ones and the n PC. I've been 1:13:39.787 --> 1:13:44.027 been reminded, been reminded by a few people. Piney hardly 1:13:44.187 --> 1:13:46.907 mentioned we scored five tries at Ellis Park. They got one. 1:13:47.587 --> 1:13:50.227 That is actually has been overlooked a little bit, hasn't it. 1:13:51.107 --> 1:13:53.827 The fact that it's our highest ever score at Ellis 1:13:53.867 --> 1:13:58.587 Park and five tries to one. Yeah, there's a lot 1:13:58.667 --> 1:14:00.947 to like, a lot to like. Thank you for all 1:14:01.147 --> 1:14:04.787 of your calls and correspondence on the All Blacks Test 1:14:04.867 --> 1:14:07.907 two Cape Town Sunday morning. Of course the game against 1:14:07.907 --> 1:14:10.867 the Lions Wednesday morning. We'll take a break, come back 1:14:10.907 --> 1:14:13.507 and James mcconey will join us in a regular Sunday slot. 1:14:14.027 --> 1:14:17.867 The Biggest Names in Sports talk to Peney Weekend Sports 1:14:18.027 --> 1:14:21.427 with Jason Vine and the audi Q seven Dynamic Black 1:14:21.507 --> 1:14:25.067 Runout Edition includes thirty thousand dollars of premium month grades, 1:14:25.227 --> 1:14:25.987 youth talks and me. 1:14:26.667 --> 1:14:28.707 Well, that blug just said, the biggest names in sport 1:14:28.827 --> 1:14:31.827 talk to me, and here's one here, James mcconey, Hello mate, 1:14:31.867 --> 1:14:32.427 welcome home. 1:14:33.107 --> 1:14:35.867 Oh thanks poney, You're great to be home. Dave Dobbin 1:14:35.867 --> 1:14:37.627 didn't get out and sing to me, but it's pretty 1:14:37.707 --> 1:14:38.787 nice being about being back. 1:14:38.947 --> 1:14:41.547 Yeah, well, welcome back, welcome back. I would have come 1:14:41.627 --> 1:14:44.027 and greeted you with great emotion had I known the 1:14:44.147 --> 1:14:45.947 arrival time of your flight. But it's good to have 1:14:46.027 --> 1:14:47.987 you on the radio. Anyway. What did you think about 1:14:47.987 --> 1:14:48.747 the All Blacks this morning? 1:14:48.787 --> 1:14:48.947 Mate? 1:14:48.947 --> 1:14:49.707 You would have enjoyed that. 1:14:50.547 --> 1:14:50.747 Ah. 1:14:51.107 --> 1:14:52.187 What a game, what a game? 1:14:52.267 --> 1:14:54.027 What a game? What a many good game? 1:14:55.347 --> 1:14:56.147 Maddy madey good? 1:14:56.227 --> 1:14:56.427 Wow? 1:14:57.107 --> 1:15:01.747 Yeah, that's son Pepper there. I actually think it was outstanding, 1:15:02.027 --> 1:15:06.627 and for many reasons, including the fact that test have 1:15:06.667 --> 1:15:09.147 always been about key moments and standing up and winning 1:15:09.227 --> 1:15:12.067 those moments, and that's exactly what the All Blacks did. 1:15:12.147 --> 1:15:14.467 Because the spring box, they'll feel like they blew it. 1:15:15.467 --> 1:15:17.827 I totally agree. I think they had more than enough 1:15:18.787 --> 1:15:21.787 dominance in the first forty minutes, probably the first fifty minutes. 1:15:21.827 --> 1:15:25.707 They you know, we've been using the boxing analogy all afternoon, 1:15:25.787 --> 1:15:28.187 but you know, they were ahead on points. They were 1:15:28.267 --> 1:15:31.667 throwing punches left, right and center. All Blacks absorbed them 1:15:32.147 --> 1:15:35.427 and then and then sort of eased away. So yeah, 1:15:35.467 --> 1:15:36.867 I think sat never will probably look at it as 1:15:36.867 --> 1:15:39.347 an opportunity miss for sure, totally, And I. 1:15:39.347 --> 1:15:42.827 Mean Rassi didn't see many variations. They had bombs and 1:15:42.947 --> 1:15:46.907 more bombs and big bodies running straight into the teeth 1:15:46.947 --> 1:15:50.387 of the All Blacks defense, which, apart from Jasper Visa 1:15:50.467 --> 1:15:52.147 getting through a couple of times, I thought the All 1:15:52.187 --> 1:15:55.667 Blacks handled really well. I couldn't see Tony Brown's influence 1:15:55.787 --> 1:15:58.347 as he listening to Tony you know, where was that 1:15:58.507 --> 1:16:02.107 sort of the innovation? I guess I saw Chess and 1:16:02.147 --> 1:16:04.707 Colby put in a crazy sidestep in the first half 1:16:05.427 --> 1:16:07.307 where the first offended didn't get a hand on him. 1:16:07.347 --> 1:16:09.147 But I can't remember him getting the ball for the 1:16:09.227 --> 1:16:11.787 rest of the game, So I mean that's on them. 1:16:12.027 --> 1:16:15.067 But let's talk about I'm sure, as I've heard on 1:16:15.187 --> 1:16:19.587 your show, the plaudits the flowers to the front row 1:16:20.067 --> 1:16:22.267 bench of the All Blacks. How good were they? 1:16:22.627 --> 1:16:26.587 Yep, so good? George Bauer, Fletcher yule Esop more. Yeah, 1:16:26.947 --> 1:16:29.707 terrific game changing And a lot of people pointed out 1:16:29.707 --> 1:16:32.867 as well that it also had the necessitated the change 1:16:32.907 --> 1:16:35.267 with Toulv coming back into the second row. I know 1:16:35.347 --> 1:16:37.987 they like him at six, but he's a tremendous lock 1:16:38.027 --> 1:16:39.267 forward as well, isn't he Toulve? 1:16:40.107 --> 1:16:40.427 He is? 1:16:40.667 --> 1:16:42.987 I mean, look, I do like that the Bauer al 1:16:43.067 --> 1:16:46.787 Mua Newle combo. You know, the irresistible force against the 1:16:46.827 --> 1:16:52.547 immovable objects, both of all similar heights and with they 1:16:52.707 --> 1:16:56.267 just stood up big time. And you know, the turnaround 1:16:56.307 --> 1:16:58.427 in the front of the front row of the scrum 1:16:58.587 --> 1:17:01.707 was significant. But how about our other sort of engine room, 1:17:01.747 --> 1:17:05.387 the Jordi Barrett, Quinty Pyre and midfield in particular Jordy 1:17:05.467 --> 1:17:09.627 Barrett five ts in the game. And also the hand 1:17:09.707 --> 1:17:11.667 of Jordy, or as I call it, the hand of 1:17:11.747 --> 1:17:14.907 Jorde slaping the ball away from Malcolm Marx. That was 1:17:14.987 --> 1:17:15.587 pivotal too. 1:17:16.147 --> 1:17:19.027 It was it was a lot of really key moments 1:17:19.067 --> 1:17:21.787 that Jordy Barrett seems to find himself in the middle of. 1:17:21.947 --> 1:17:24.067 So yeah, a lot of plaudits for for a lot 1:17:24.107 --> 1:17:26.307 of a lot of players. Hey did you go to 1:17:26.387 --> 1:17:30.827 the the Auckland one A first fifteen final yesterday? 1:17:31.667 --> 1:17:33.987 Yes? I did, Pony. I went and saw west Slap 1:17:34.027 --> 1:17:37.707 play Rose Mindy. What a game that was absolute Yeah, yah, 1:17:37.827 --> 1:17:40.987 ding dong of a battle twenty six all at halftime, 1:17:41.067 --> 1:17:44.267 finished up forty five forty three. But I mean, I 1:17:44.347 --> 1:17:46.347 don't think it was there was loose defense. It was 1:17:46.427 --> 1:17:52.707 just incredible attack and just strong world kind of like 1:17:52.827 --> 1:17:55.747 belief rarely, so you know, they played with the enterprise. 1:17:55.787 --> 1:17:57.987 It was really cool. West Slape got up in the end. 1:17:59.107 --> 1:18:03.067 Jeff Wilson's son, Harper Wilson, He's got himself a title. 1:18:03.147 --> 1:18:05.227 But there was there's a real star player in there 1:18:05.307 --> 1:18:09.467 called Matt Fleming who plays at center for Westlake. Remember 1:18:09.507 --> 1:18:12.787 the name, as I often say on the show, Piney, 1:18:13.067 --> 1:18:16.307 Matt Fleming he's been chased by the NRL by New 1:18:16.387 --> 1:18:22.187 Zealand Seven's by whoever plays contact sport. And then there's 1:18:22.187 --> 1:18:24.787 a few players from Rosmoney as well, so I think 1:18:24.827 --> 1:18:27.547 we'll probably see in the pro ranks. But a really 1:18:27.587 --> 1:18:29.187 good atmosphere at North Harbor Stadium. 1:18:29.227 --> 1:18:32.627 Loved it, good stuff. Is he any relation to Steven Fleming? 1:18:34.667 --> 1:18:38.947 Well, he's dashing, but in a different way. You Yeah, 1:18:39.387 --> 1:18:41.307 he can run. I don't know if he is. Actually, 1:18:41.387 --> 1:18:44.307 I'm not sure I've gone through the whole Fleming lineage. 1:18:44.347 --> 1:18:46.547 But it's a good question, Piney, and I'm sorry I 1:18:46.547 --> 1:18:47.667 haven't got an answer for you. 1:18:48.187 --> 1:18:48.747 It was a tear. 1:18:48.827 --> 1:18:50.187 It was a tear. I will throw you under the 1:18:50.267 --> 1:18:50.867 bus question. 1:18:51.427 --> 1:18:52.627 How would how would you know? 1:18:52.907 --> 1:18:54.467 How would you know if a guy with a pretty 1:18:54.467 --> 1:18:56.827 common surname is related to another guy with the same 1:18:56.907 --> 1:18:58.547 surname exactly? 1:18:58.707 --> 1:19:02.187 Yeah, that's fine, I'll wear it. But yeah, it was. 1:19:02.267 --> 1:19:04.147 It was really good. I think there's some pretty cool 1:19:04.187 --> 1:19:07.467 Schoolboy finals happening at the moment, So you know, if 1:19:07.467 --> 1:19:10.387 you like your grassroots rugby, I think it's fantastic. I 1:19:10.467 --> 1:19:12.347 look at the pace and the skill in the game. 1:19:12.947 --> 1:19:15.907 It's just it's the game's in pretty good health when 1:19:15.947 --> 1:19:17.307 you look at these first fifteens play. 1:19:18.067 --> 1:19:20.227 And to tell you what the women's gamers too, because 1:19:20.227 --> 1:19:23.507 I watched that O'Reilly Cup game yesterday between our Black 1:19:23.507 --> 1:19:26.147 Ferns in Australia and Australia. Had been making all sorts 1:19:26.147 --> 1:19:27.627 of noises during the week that this was going to 1:19:27.627 --> 1:19:29.627 be the game. They turned up and fronted up and 1:19:29.747 --> 1:19:30.627 turned the tables. 1:19:31.227 --> 1:19:31.907 No chance. 1:19:32.267 --> 1:19:34.627 Were we just monstered them, didn't we? 1:19:35.427 --> 1:19:38.427 Yeah, we did, and we did it with several teenagers playing, 1:19:38.467 --> 1:19:42.347 including Anti Satici Wallaceti's younger sister coming off the bench 1:19:42.427 --> 1:19:45.587 and scoring a try. She's a lock loose forward, so 1:19:45.707 --> 1:19:49.427 look out for her. There were obviously Braxton, Sorens and McGee. 1:19:49.947 --> 1:19:53.187 She's come from sevens and now she's still only nineteen, 1:19:53.907 --> 1:19:56.427 kicking goals for the team, scoring tries. But the one 1:19:56.467 --> 1:19:58.707 thing I did want to focus on was he demand. 1:19:59.187 --> 1:20:01.027 I think we're seeing one of the great leaders in 1:20:01.067 --> 1:20:03.747 New Zealand sport. They're one of the great captains. And 1:20:03.827 --> 1:20:06.267 when you go back to the traditions of Fara Parma 1:20:06.507 --> 1:20:12.947 and the farmer Farmer Sili and even like Buckshelf of 1:20:13.027 --> 1:20:15.387 Richard mccauw, you throw in these great captains. She's got 1:20:15.467 --> 1:20:18.227 all the elements there. And I think Wayne Smith once 1:20:18.347 --> 1:20:22.427 told me that when he went up on at halftime 1:20:22.587 --> 1:20:24.907 to tell the team that they've been doing everything wrong, 1:20:25.307 --> 1:20:27.467 it was too late. Apparently he got there and Luhy 1:20:27.627 --> 1:20:29.787 was reading the Riot Act and said exactly what he 1:20:29.867 --> 1:20:32.387 wanted to say. So he turned around and went back 1:20:32.427 --> 1:20:35.147 to the off the field. He just be taken care of. 1:20:35.867 --> 1:20:39.667 It's all under control already. Yeah, she seems to have 1:20:40.387 --> 1:20:44.067 a real aura about her, a real calmness just to 1:20:44.187 --> 1:20:47.387 tranquility about her, both on the field and when your 1:20:47.467 --> 1:20:50.107 hair are doing media situations. She's a pretty impressive human, 1:20:50.787 --> 1:20:51.347 she really is. 1:20:51.627 --> 1:20:54.707 Yeah. I did watch the wires last night against South. 1:20:54.947 --> 1:20:59.387 There was another impressive win against the pretty star studded 1:20:59.467 --> 1:21:02.907 South team. You never missing Latreal Mitchell, but hey, a 1:21:02.987 --> 1:21:05.827 rookie halves pairing or a new halves pairing of Hanson 1:21:05.867 --> 1:21:08.387 and Channell House to Vita and the Chanel number six 1:21:08.507 --> 1:21:11.347 going up to now Chanel number seven. Things look to 1:21:11.427 --> 1:21:14.187 be in pretty good order, except a bit sad. As 1:21:14.187 --> 1:21:19.187 you reported Dylan may Tenney's lesliek with a broken collarbone. 1:21:19.227 --> 1:21:22.347 Now, yeah, well, let's hope that it's not season ending. Hey, James, 1:21:22.387 --> 1:21:25.467 great to have your home. Look if you if you could, 1:21:25.707 --> 1:21:28.187 if you could brush up on New Zealand, great New 1:21:28.267 --> 1:21:31.107 Zealand sporting families for the next time we chat. That'd 1:21:31.147 --> 1:21:31.507 be great. 1:21:32.227 --> 1:21:34.827 Oh yeah, and more more salt and pepper. Maybe you 1:21:34.827 --> 1:21:37.067 should have started with push it in honor of our 1:21:37.187 --> 1:21:38.027 reserve front road. 1:21:38.187 --> 1:21:38.467 Damn it. 1:21:38.627 --> 1:21:40.947 That was another opportunity mess pioneer. 1:21:41.307 --> 1:21:44.147 It was just sitting there for you, James, sitting there 1:21:44.227 --> 1:21:46.547 for you. I know you'll, I know you'll take the 1:21:46.667 --> 1:21:49.827 learnings from this chat. Good to see you, mate, seven 1:21:49.867 --> 1:21:50.787 to two, New Stalks NB. 1:21:51.507 --> 1:21:55.587 The biggest names and sport are here. Weekend Sport with 1:21:55.907 --> 1:21:58.787 Jason Vine News Talks NB four. 1:21:58.667 --> 1:22:00.307 To two a part of Jim in the North Shore 1:22:00.427 --> 1:22:02.667 comp not the one A Kelston won that last week. Yes, 1:22:02.667 --> 1:22:05.507 you're right, it was the North Harbor one a competition 1:22:05.827 --> 1:22:07.947 West Lake rosmony that James and I were talking about. 1:22:07.987 --> 1:22:11.547 Thanks for the correction. After two, Andrew Webster is on 1:22:11.667 --> 1:22:14.307 the show. The Warriors as we sit here right now 1:22:14.427 --> 1:22:17.147 are top of the NRL table. That could change in 1:22:17.187 --> 1:22:19.787 a couple of hours when the Roosters play the Tigers, 1:22:20.227 --> 1:22:22.747 but for right now, with two games to go. The 1:22:22.867 --> 1:22:27.827 Warriors are top, that top two spot, so crucial, so 1:22:28.027 --> 1:22:31.387 important is there? Can they reach out and take it? 1:22:32.947 --> 1:22:36.747 The only place for the big names, the big issues, 1:22:37.147 --> 1:22:40.787 the big controversies and the big conversations. 1:22:40.987 --> 1:22:43.867 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason. 1:22:43.587 --> 1:22:46.867 Vine and the RDQ seven Dynamic Black Runout edition on 1:22:47.027 --> 1:22:49.307 Youth Talks v Your Homeless. 1:22:48.867 --> 1:22:53.427 Sport the two O seven. Thanks for all your calls 1:22:54.267 --> 1:22:58.187 and correspondence on the All Blacks. We look forward to 1:22:58.347 --> 1:23:00.547 doing it all again next Sunday. Let's hope it says 1:23:01.387 --> 1:23:04.067 emphatic our performance in Cape Town. Anyway, we'll leave that 1:23:04.147 --> 1:23:05.987 to one side for now because we have to move 1:23:06.027 --> 1:23:10.067 on the top of the table. Warriors two games to go, 1:23:11.307 --> 1:23:14.667 sitting top at the moment. The Roosters can go past 1:23:14.747 --> 1:23:16.547 them in a few hours if they beat the Tigers, 1:23:17.107 --> 1:23:21.187 and let's face it, they probably will, given the tigers 1:23:21.307 --> 1:23:24.987 recent form and the Rooster's recent form. But that top 1:23:25.067 --> 1:23:29.147 two spot is sitting there, just sitting there, waiting to 1:23:29.187 --> 1:23:33.947 be grabbed. Andrew Webster is along shortly. We're also going 1:23:33.987 --> 1:23:36.667 to talk some Grand Prix. Liam Lawson is back in 1:23:36.707 --> 1:23:38.547 the Red Bull car for the Dutch Grand Prix. He 1:23:38.667 --> 1:23:42.427 has qualified eighth for tomorrow morning's race. This, of course 1:23:42.547 --> 1:23:44.667 is his first drive in that car since he was 1:23:44.787 --> 1:23:49.387 unceremoniously demoted to the Racing Ball after just two races 1:23:49.507 --> 1:23:52.827 last year back in the Red Bull. How did he 1:23:52.907 --> 1:23:56.267 look in qualifying? Alex Powell out of the New Zealand 1:23:56.267 --> 1:23:58.267 herold going to talk to us about that. We'll take 1:23:58.307 --> 1:24:00.387 some calls on the Warriors too, incidentally, and I'll give 1:24:00.387 --> 1:24:03.187 you the equation around how they can finish second and 1:24:03.267 --> 1:24:06.067 also what it might mean in terms of home games 1:24:06.107 --> 1:24:09.547 over the next month or so, because there's a scenario 1:24:09.667 --> 1:24:13.427 under which the Warriors will play four times at home 1:24:13.467 --> 1:24:15.867 in the next five weekends. Anyway we can get to that. 1:24:16.587 --> 1:24:18.507 Our lines are open on eight hundred and eighty ten 1:24:18.587 --> 1:24:20.827 eighty nine two ninety two for your text messages. But 1:24:20.907 --> 1:24:23.267 before we get to anything else, as we always do 1:24:23.347 --> 1:24:25.467 about this time on weekends, sport, it's time to catch 1:24:25.507 --> 1:24:27.547 you up. There's been a lot of sport happening. You 1:24:27.667 --> 1:24:30.267 might have missed some of it, so in case you 1:24:30.347 --> 1:24:35.427 missed it, and women's rugby, the Lorrie O'Reilly Cup is 1:24:35.827 --> 1:24:39.347 staying firmly here in New Zealand takes it out gives 1:24:39.347 --> 1:24:47.827 it away for sets on DAP THEVD. Another of the newcomers, 1:24:47.867 --> 1:24:51.867 another of these teenage talents, and Black the Black Fern's 1:24:51.987 --> 1:24:56.747 absolutely destroying Australia sixty six nineteen yesterday at Go Media 1:24:57.467 --> 1:25:01.747 and the NPC, the muckle crushing Southland and Nelson. Yeah, 1:25:01.987 --> 1:25:02.867 a little show and. 1:25:02.947 --> 1:25:05.707 Going a nice sport over the top waiting them up 1:25:05.747 --> 1:25:09.347 now there chants so cort runners coming on the inside. 1:25:09.387 --> 1:25:12.427 I won't need any of them, Tom, I for love 1:25:12.507 --> 1:25:14.027 there sharing the love. 1:25:14.907 --> 1:25:18.347 At the end of the game and one more player. 1:25:18.187 --> 1:25:21.827 To winsertain forty six points to seventeen the final score. Meantime, 1:25:21.907 --> 1:25:24.987 the bridge now belongs to North Harbor. 1:25:24.907 --> 1:25:28.187 Tete the advantages nor for North Harbor Hell added to 1:25:28.227 --> 1:25:31.787 the decks now Barra checks and across Leo time can't 1:25:31.827 --> 1:25:33.107 stop down stats. 1:25:34.587 --> 1:25:39.387 Oh come on, that is just ridiculously good. 1:25:40.787 --> 1:25:45.107 Rather try Harbor twenty seven, Aufland nineteen and Bay of 1:25:45.227 --> 1:25:46.987 plenty held off the neck east. 1:25:46.787 --> 1:25:49.947 Straight through the Federal guys ne cor broughtend. 1:25:51.187 --> 1:25:52.867 Great awareness. 1:25:54.667 --> 1:25:56.747 And it is they did in the first half with 1:25:56.867 --> 1:25:57.867 the Man of the Bend. 1:25:58.267 --> 1:26:00.707 The Steamer is struck twenty eight twenty four. The final 1:26:00.747 --> 1:26:03.547 score there to the NRL. The mainly Sea Eagles tipped up. 1:26:03.587 --> 1:26:08.267 The Knights walk back towards center field. All the kawak's on. 1:26:08.307 --> 1:26:10.987 The word of God give you a massive hole. 1:26:12.227 --> 1:26:15.307 The Newcastle Knight's defense breaks turn again. 1:26:16.307 --> 1:26:19.307 Garry has a Saturday afternoon strolled. 1:26:18.987 --> 1:26:21.667 To the line at forty four twenty four the final 1:26:21.747 --> 1:26:25.547 score and the Bulldogs dismantled the dragon out of the 1:26:25.627 --> 1:26:28.027 right bick Albanies and then a little outside. 1:26:28.107 --> 1:26:31.907 It's I got about the tax presser stopper, stopper. 1:26:32.427 --> 1:26:37.867 It's a turn at tracing that is just electable touchs. 1:26:37.787 --> 1:26:40.387 Forty four to fourteen the final score there to the 1:26:40.427 --> 1:26:45.227 Premier League's opening weekends, a win for newly promoted Ipswich. 1:26:45.347 --> 1:26:49.627 Too much goldmanth action in this second period. Next switch 1:26:49.787 --> 1:26:53.267 looking to change that. Now here's Clark, Jack Clark looking 1:26:53.307 --> 1:26:55.427 for the Anny day. 1:26:55.547 --> 1:26:59.547 You want the warning for it. Switch the Jets is four. 1:26:59.387 --> 1:27:05.787 O'clock two unt Ipswich over Sunderland and Hull against all expectations, 1:27:06.427 --> 1:27:10.267 tipping up Manchester United. We've got good presence in these situations. 1:27:10.307 --> 1:27:12.947 Whole All that's DAGs. 1:27:15.947 --> 1:27:16.187 Time. 1:27:19.187 --> 1:27:25.147 That's just noted to be humbled by the humber An 1:27:25.227 --> 1:27:26.707 extraordinary style. 1:27:26.667 --> 1:27:29.867 For the newly promoted site toil the whole city of 1:27:29.867 --> 1:27:32.547 the final score. But it wasn't quite the biggest upset 1:27:32.587 --> 1:27:37.707 of the weekend. That belongs to Buller in the Heartland Championship, 1:27:38.187 --> 1:27:43.227 who overcame their twenty six dollars underdog tag to beat 1:27:43.307 --> 1:27:45.667 North Otago twenty two to twenty one. 1:27:46.267 --> 1:27:47.027 Four gets dropped. 1:27:47.027 --> 1:27:48.187 I'm moving that far aside. 1:27:48.227 --> 1:27:53.947 Here's that oh halfway last night and that's the game. 1:27:54.187 --> 1:27:54.787 That's the game. 1:27:54.907 --> 1:27:55.747 It's all over. 1:27:58.427 --> 1:28:03.787 Over well, congratulations Francis mining Buller from. 1:28:03.707 --> 1:28:06.067 Brilliant victories to battling selections. 1:28:06.547 --> 1:28:10.467 All fair game on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and 1:28:10.667 --> 1:28:14.587 the outi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition available Whilstock's 1:28:14.627 --> 1:28:15.827 Last New Stalks v. 1:28:16.387 --> 1:28:18.107 Twelve minutes past two. I think it's first time we've 1:28:18.147 --> 1:28:20.547 featured Buller on in case you mist at. Well done 1:28:20.587 --> 1:28:23.667 to the Bullet team for there when yesterday over North 1:28:23.707 --> 1:28:27.347 Otago twelve minutes past two, the Warriors have moved to 1:28:27.387 --> 1:28:29.747 the top of the NRL Ladder with a forty five 1:28:29.867 --> 1:28:31.907 twenty six win over the Rabbit O's in Sydney. 1:28:33.027 --> 1:28:33.947 Ten seconds on. 1:28:34.067 --> 1:28:36.747 The club Harris Devina ride in front of the post. 1:28:36.987 --> 1:28:39.147 They're gonna get fid plot this. 1:28:42.107 --> 1:28:43.187 Hat titser. 1:28:48.267 --> 1:28:49.827 You might have been him in little MESSI. 1:28:49.707 --> 1:28:53.067 Sit your part, I wondered, whatt you a tax stick? 1:28:53.507 --> 1:28:56.027 It's Webster, Webster Towns hats and. 1:28:56.307 --> 1:28:57.107 Hats and kicks. 1:28:57.147 --> 1:29:02.947 The field goal clod Hatch incredible. What is the top 1:29:03.027 --> 1:29:04.707 of the table? What a kick two? 1:29:05.427 --> 1:29:09.627 Luke Hanson actually gave a footy without itself. 1:29:11.067 --> 1:29:15.987 Warriors win by nineteen was the first time the letter 1:29:19.547 --> 1:29:21.507 what a finish to the Knight. 1:29:21.747 --> 1:29:24.387 Yeah, a field goal on the full time hearder from 1:29:24.467 --> 1:29:28.107 Luke Hanson has taken the Warriors past Penrith on points 1:29:28.187 --> 1:29:31.427 differential with two games to play. The forty five points 1:29:31.467 --> 1:29:34.227 they scored also their highest score of the season, as 1:29:34.267 --> 1:29:37.507 they ran in seven tries at a core stadium. Warriors 1:29:37.547 --> 1:29:41.147 coach Andrew Webster is with us. Congratulations on the win 1:29:41.227 --> 1:29:43.307 and what it's done to your table position. Andrew, the 1:29:43.387 --> 1:29:47.987 match was probably divided into three parts. After forty seven 1:29:48.067 --> 1:29:50.707 minutes you were thirty two to eight in front and 1:29:50.787 --> 1:29:53.307 it scored five tries. So how happy were you at 1:29:53.347 --> 1:29:53.787 that point? 1:29:54.707 --> 1:29:54.827 Uh? 1:29:55.227 --> 1:29:56.147 Yeah, how have you done? 1:29:56.267 --> 1:30:00.547 Look we're playing that opponent that throw caution to the 1:30:00.587 --> 1:30:02.987 win and they're very good at it. They execute a 1:30:03.027 --> 1:30:05.947 lot of those big chefs and big players, and I 1:30:06.027 --> 1:30:07.867 think we all we all knew we needed to be 1:30:07.947 --> 1:30:12.027 on our toes, and sure enough they threw plenty at us, 1:30:12.067 --> 1:30:15.147 and next thing they bring it back to a six 1:30:15.227 --> 1:30:19.187 point margin. So the most pleasing bit was we kicked 1:30:19.187 --> 1:30:21.507 away again, which I think everyone can get a bit 1:30:21.547 --> 1:30:23.667 nervous in that situation, but I was really happy how 1:30:23.707 --> 1:30:24.347 we handled us. 1:30:24.747 --> 1:30:27.307 In terms of the thirty two points that you did score, though, 1:30:27.707 --> 1:30:30.067 how happy were you with the fluidity of your attack 1:30:30.107 --> 1:30:32.307 and the different ways you found to cross the line? 1:30:33.187 --> 1:30:33.387 Yeah? 1:30:33.787 --> 1:30:36.547 Yeah, I wouldn't say it was completely though, but I 1:30:36.667 --> 1:30:38.387 just thought he would come up with the players at 1:30:38.387 --> 1:30:40.987 the right time to make suck to shore, ball to 1:30:41.147 --> 1:30:45.267 Eddie and then Eddie flicks it to Chanell. Just you know, 1:30:45.387 --> 1:30:48.587 stuff like that was really cool. But yeah, I think 1:30:48.667 --> 1:30:52.827 Chanelle's doing a great job. Moved to seven and he's 1:30:52.867 --> 1:30:55.827 controlling the theme, and I think everyone's really clear on 1:30:55.907 --> 1:31:00.627 our roles, but I think at our skill level in 1:31:00.747 --> 1:31:03.067 finishing the job, Like we put up a kick, it 1:31:03.147 --> 1:31:05.787 wasn't a great kick, but Chanell finds a way to 1:31:05.867 --> 1:31:07.787 chase it. The ball back and then passed the jakie 1:31:07.827 --> 1:31:11.907 for a try. So it wasn't all just beautiful skill 1:31:11.987 --> 1:31:16.027 and nice execution, although there was some there, there was 1:31:16.147 --> 1:31:19.707 lots lots of like about how we were still competed 1:31:20.107 --> 1:31:21.707 and turned something bad into something good. 1:31:22.187 --> 1:31:24.747 Do you worry we'll be at thirty two eight ahead 1:31:24.747 --> 1:31:27.987 and then it's back to thirty two twenty six? Do 1:31:28.107 --> 1:31:30.307 you worry at that point or are you always confident 1:31:30.387 --> 1:31:32.707 that the right voices will say the right things at 1:31:32.707 --> 1:31:33.867 the right times down on the field. 1:31:34.387 --> 1:31:38.507 No, I'm completely confident in ourship, but I've got complete faith. 1:31:38.587 --> 1:31:43.307 But I'm a human, like I'm worried, I'm going wow, 1:31:44.427 --> 1:31:50.707 you know, but like if you feel asking who could 1:31:50.747 --> 1:31:54.387 I send out there and them deliver a message and 1:31:54.467 --> 1:31:58.027 get them back in back focus, I'm completely confident that 1:31:58.147 --> 1:32:00.867 we've got the right guys who in our leadship style 1:32:00.947 --> 1:32:04.227 and structure. So yeah, completely confident in that bit, but 1:32:04.387 --> 1:32:08.427 I'm certainly human sense where I'm thinking not cheeps. We're 1:32:08.467 --> 1:32:08.867 in a fight. 1:32:09.667 --> 1:32:12.067 The decision by Luke Hanson to drop that goal at 1:32:12.107 --> 1:32:13.867 the end, it takes your top of the ladder on 1:32:13.947 --> 1:32:17.227 points differential. Is that a message you seen down or. 1:32:17.267 --> 1:32:21.707 Not no, no, no, no, I didn't take other field goal. 1:32:21.907 --> 1:32:23.907 They say, our boys wanted to practice a field goal 1:32:23.947 --> 1:32:25.867 because Sanel was going to take it and no pressure. 1:32:26.787 --> 1:32:29.467 And I asked look In to ask again, did you 1:32:29.627 --> 1:32:32.427 know that kicking that would send us there? And he 1:32:32.467 --> 1:32:36.227 said I didn't have a quit. So I think everyone 1:32:36.307 --> 1:32:38.267 can get all the carried away in the romance of 1:32:38.467 --> 1:32:42.507 what happened. But I was happy if we tried to score. 1:32:42.507 --> 1:32:44.867 We nearly scored, like to play before when fish when 1:32:44.947 --> 1:32:47.747 little line break a Minnesota before and then he would 1:32:47.787 --> 1:32:50.467 have passed it. I passed the cap well, and we 1:32:50.587 --> 1:32:53.627 nely scored there. But yeah, the field goal was just 1:32:53.707 --> 1:32:56.987 a boy's trying to practice getting better at I see 1:32:56.987 --> 1:32:58.067 in those moments, well. 1:32:57.987 --> 1:33:00.387 A brand new Hal's conboy. You've mentioned them both, Luke Hanson, 1:33:00.507 --> 1:33:03.467 Chanelle Harris Tavita. How did you evaluate their performance and 1:33:03.947 --> 1:33:05.707 how important might it be if one or both of 1:33:05.747 --> 1:33:08.507 them has to playing those positions over the next month 1:33:08.627 --> 1:33:08.747 or so. 1:33:09.627 --> 1:33:15.827 That's hugely important. Yeah, twisting turns everywhere in this game, 1:33:16.147 --> 1:33:18.507 so we're going to be prepared for every scenario and 1:33:18.587 --> 1:33:21.347 every players a chance to playing. So I thought they 1:33:21.387 --> 1:33:27.107 were good at his opportunity and I was wrapped for 1:33:27.347 --> 1:33:31.107 our most points of the year with a new fresh combination. 1:33:31.267 --> 1:33:31.987 I thought it was all. 1:33:33.387 --> 1:33:35.867 I can ask about Wade Egan later on a couple 1:33:35.907 --> 1:33:38.907 of tries. That's fourteen assists for the season now twenty 1:33:38.947 --> 1:33:42.347 one tackles just such a calm head. How important is 1:33:42.387 --> 1:33:43.547 Wade Egan to you? 1:33:44.507 --> 1:33:49.747 Huge? Absolutely huge calm It's clear. I think everyone talks 1:33:49.747 --> 1:33:52.347 about it halves, but I think he certainly helps him 1:33:52.387 --> 1:33:56.827 give them time, he puts them in good situations. Yeah, 1:33:56.827 --> 1:34:00.667 I think he's a big part of the glue. So 1:34:00.827 --> 1:34:04.067 here are half dropped into our program. Oh sorry, not program, 1:34:04.187 --> 1:34:07.227 but dropped into our team that week. Wait, it's certainly 1:34:07.267 --> 1:34:08.227 making it easy for you. 1:34:08.547 --> 1:34:12.107 So he's very important and as well as an excellent 1:34:12.147 --> 1:34:15.107 all round game tame to Alpiki perfect off the tee, 1:34:15.227 --> 1:34:17.827 he kicked eight from eight. Will that vector into your 1:34:17.987 --> 1:34:21.427 selection thinking when chance is available again. 1:34:21.867 --> 1:34:25.347 Man, we'll take every in consideration. I mean, it can't 1:34:25.427 --> 1:34:28.547 hurt kicking eight from eight, can it? So I thought 1:34:28.587 --> 1:34:30.467 he was awesome my moment. We've had that all year 1:34:30.787 --> 1:34:34.587 so well, good date from eight made the scoreboard look 1:34:34.627 --> 1:34:39.827 even better. And yeah, no, certainly if you will take 1:34:39.867 --> 1:34:43.587 everything consideration. So when when we have that headache. 1:34:44.307 --> 1:34:47.147 We saw Delan what Tennis Lesnie go off after scoring 1:34:47.187 --> 1:34:48.827 has try just after half time. Do you have any 1:34:48.867 --> 1:34:50.067 update on his shoulder? 1:34:50.667 --> 1:34:54.107 Yeah, man, he's boken's collar bone. So he's getting surgery tomorrow. 1:34:54.387 --> 1:34:55.907 Oh yeah. 1:34:56.347 --> 1:35:00.147 So it's a shame that people probably don't realize that. 1:35:00.387 --> 1:35:03.187 And did it pretty did it in the first half, 1:35:03.307 --> 1:35:06.907 kept running the football right and then just went in 1:35:06.987 --> 1:35:09.707 and going back to the wing and in pain. That 1:35:09.827 --> 1:35:11.547 half time he took his jersey off to try and 1:35:11.587 --> 1:35:14.227 get a treated, and then I saw him try and 1:35:14.267 --> 1:35:16.987 put it back on. It wasn't a nice nice look. 1:35:17.747 --> 1:35:20.107 Now we turned out it was fractured, and we tried 1:35:20.147 --> 1:35:23.547 to get him off and then he he is about 1:35:23.547 --> 1:35:25.187 to come off, and then he turned and chased for 1:35:25.307 --> 1:35:27.427 that that pass and he got the pass and he 1:35:27.467 --> 1:35:29.067 scored the try and he put it on his left 1:35:29.107 --> 1:35:32.347 hand and he's right. He'd never scored a try of 1:35:32.427 --> 1:35:37.947 his left end ever. He said to me, Yeah, pretty brave, well, 1:35:38.027 --> 1:35:41.787 extremely brave, and I just thought it was inspiration or 1:35:41.787 --> 1:35:42.587 what he did last night. 1:35:42.827 --> 1:35:46.227 Absolutely incredibly courageous. There's some great footage of I'm almost 1:35:46.587 --> 1:35:49.107 coming off and then turning around and scoring that try 1:35:49.227 --> 1:35:52.347 so shove us broken collarbone? So that season ending, is it? 1:35:53.107 --> 1:35:53.147 No? 1:35:53.347 --> 1:35:58.147 No, no, no, no, it's not right'll be right, We'll 1:35:58.187 --> 1:35:58.627 work it out. 1:35:59.307 --> 1:36:02.867 Okay. It's good to know as we speak right now 1:36:03.067 --> 1:36:05.587 your top that could change in a few hours, of course, 1:36:05.667 --> 1:36:07.147 and I know it only matters if your top at 1:36:07.147 --> 1:36:09.147 the end of the season, but how well do you 1:36:09.227 --> 1:36:10.707 feel that sets you up for a run at the 1:36:10.747 --> 1:36:12.547 top two or even at the minor premiership. 1:36:15.427 --> 1:36:17.667 Honestly, think game to win every game to be my 1:36:17.867 --> 1:36:20.667 premiers or the top two. And we can win every 1:36:20.747 --> 1:36:24.667 game and still want to be top two because penerist 1:36:25.067 --> 1:36:28.467 on four and against yours a game, so can't get 1:36:28.507 --> 1:36:31.667 carried away with us, Alton. Honestly, we play at home. 1:36:31.707 --> 1:36:34.707 I'd love to have a home sending. But if we 1:36:34.907 --> 1:36:37.907 have to travel, we're good at it. What do you 1:36:37.947 --> 1:36:41.307 travel in anyone? So whatever they give us on whatever happens, 1:36:41.747 --> 1:36:42.707 where we'll be ready. 1:36:43.187 --> 1:36:45.187 There is a scenario though, and this is very real, 1:36:45.427 --> 1:36:47.387 under which you might now have four home games in 1:36:47.427 --> 1:36:49.467 a row. You've got the last two in the regular season. 1:36:49.987 --> 1:36:52.627 If you finished top two, your host a game you 1:36:52.747 --> 1:36:55.987 win that you host a preliminary final. The next time 1:36:56.027 --> 1:36:58.147 you travel might be for the Grand Final. Does this 1:36:58.227 --> 1:37:00.467 sort of thing go around in your brain or is 1:37:00.467 --> 1:37:01.267 it just in my brain? 1:37:02.387 --> 1:37:08.307 It goes in my wife's brain having home. I don't 1:37:08.307 --> 1:37:14.147 know if I think a singer avaving no, look, yeah, 1:37:14.187 --> 1:37:17.587 if that happened, i'd be awesome. But yeah, it certainly 1:37:17.667 --> 1:37:19.827 goes through people's brain. Such a sure all. 1:37:19.747 --> 1:37:22.947 Right, Just to finish you extended this week to twenty 1:37:23.067 --> 1:37:25.227 thirty two. I had rich Igar on the radio yesterday. 1:37:25.267 --> 1:37:27.307 He suggested that that should mean you should buy drinks 1:37:27.387 --> 1:37:31.107 until then. How straightforward a decision was it to re sign? 1:37:31.907 --> 1:37:33.787 Yeah, I went to buy Richard drink last night. You 1:37:33.787 --> 1:37:36.387 don't even drink, So I don't know what I can 1:37:36.467 --> 1:37:42.107 do there. No, No, I'm just I'm just really keen. Keen. 1:37:42.187 --> 1:37:44.107 Stay in New Zealand and say the worries. I love 1:37:44.147 --> 1:37:48.347 the place, I love the people. I like what Robo 1:37:48.467 --> 1:37:51.747 and Cameron are doing with the place, and you know, 1:37:51.907 --> 1:37:53.547 like I say it all the time, but we're only 1:37:53.627 --> 1:37:57.427 a reflection of the players, you know, And I just 1:37:57.507 --> 1:38:00.267 appreciate it. Spend more time with them than I probably 1:38:00.307 --> 1:38:04.387 do my family. So it's such a cool place. To 1:38:04.427 --> 1:38:06.227 go to work every day and that's why I want 1:38:06.267 --> 1:38:06.547 to go. 1:38:06.707 --> 1:38:09.147 So well home for a while. Now we'll be thanks 1:38:09.187 --> 1:38:11.107 for taking the time. Congrats on the win mates, save 1:38:11.147 --> 1:38:13.267 travels and all the best as you prepare for Newcastle 1:38:13.347 --> 1:38:13.707 next week. 1:38:14.427 --> 1:38:15.907 Thank you, thanks so much, No, thank you. 1:38:16.187 --> 1:38:18.387 Andrew Andrew Webster, their head coach, to the Warrior's lines, 1:38:18.427 --> 1:38:20.747 open the talk. The Warriors eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1:38:20.987 --> 1:38:23.587 It's two twenty two. Just before we go to the line, 1:38:23.587 --> 1:38:25.787 says have look at this table and ahead to the 1:38:25.867 --> 1:38:28.627 final fortnight of the regular season. So the Warriors are 1:38:28.667 --> 1:38:33.307 currently top thirty eight points twenty two games. The Panthers 1:38:33.467 --> 1:38:36.147 also have thirty eight points from twenty two games, but 1:38:36.867 --> 1:38:41.027 the Warriors have a better points differential by a solitary point. 1:38:42.027 --> 1:38:44.947 Now the Roosters also have thirty eight points and they 1:38:45.027 --> 1:38:47.587 have a game in hand, so they can go back 1:38:47.667 --> 1:38:49.307 to the top of the table if they beat the 1:38:49.387 --> 1:38:52.987 Tigers at home this afternoon, which they almost certainly will 1:38:53.907 --> 1:38:58.227 so then it'll be Roosters forty, Warriors thirty eight, Panthers 1:38:58.307 --> 1:39:02.267 thirty eight, and they'll all have two games left. So 1:39:03.627 --> 1:39:07.307 if the Warriors and the Panthers both win theyre remaining 1:39:07.387 --> 1:39:11.107 two games, they'll stay level on points. So in order 1:39:11.187 --> 1:39:15.067 to finish above the Panthers, the Warriors have to win 1:39:15.147 --> 1:39:19.747 their last two games by a combined same or better 1:39:19.907 --> 1:39:24.187 margin across the two games than the Panthers. In other words, 1:39:24.187 --> 1:39:26.907 assuming both teams win their last two games, we add 1:39:26.987 --> 1:39:31.187 together the Warriors winning margins, and we add together the 1:39:31.267 --> 1:39:34.507 Panthers winning margins, and if those numbers are the same, 1:39:34.787 --> 1:39:37.507 or if the Warrior's number is higher, then the Warriors 1:39:37.547 --> 1:39:41.427 finished second. So let's look at the remaining matches. The 1:39:41.467 --> 1:39:44.547 Warriors have the sixth placed Knights and the tenth placed 1:39:44.627 --> 1:39:48.147 Eagle Sea Eagles, both at home. The Panthers play the 1:39:48.267 --> 1:39:52.387 ninth placed Bulldogs and the sixteenth placed Titans, also both 1:39:52.427 --> 1:39:56.627 at home, so very similar run ins. The Roosters actually 1:39:56.667 --> 1:39:58.747 have quite a tough run in after the Tigers. Today 1:39:58.787 --> 1:40:01.627 they play the fourth placed Dolphins at home and the 1:40:01.707 --> 1:40:06.067 seventh placed rabbit Os away. But the Roosters are red hot. 1:40:06.347 --> 1:40:09.667 They've won their last eight games. They have the inside 1:40:09.827 --> 1:40:13.147 running to win the minor premiership. So think of the 1:40:13.267 --> 1:40:18.507 fortnight ahead as a straight sprint for second between the 1:40:18.587 --> 1:40:22.867 Warriors and the Panthers. And if the Warriors do finish second. 1:40:23.307 --> 1:40:25.467 As I just said to Andrew Webster, there's a very 1:40:25.587 --> 1:40:29.507 real chance that they will play four straight home games 1:40:30.347 --> 1:40:33.947 over the next five weekends, the final two regular season games. 1:40:33.947 --> 1:40:36.987 Of course, then if they're in the top two, they 1:40:37.027 --> 1:40:41.307 would host a qualifying final in week one, and if 1:40:41.307 --> 1:40:43.827 they win that, they'd have a week off and then 1:40:43.907 --> 1:40:49.107 host a preliminary final in week three. Win that and 1:40:49.187 --> 1:40:52.787 they play in the Grand Final on Sunday, October fourth. 1:40:53.467 --> 1:40:56.667 That is why a top two finish in the regular 1:40:56.747 --> 1:41:02.507 season is so advantageous, because you are effectively two home 1:41:02.627 --> 1:41:10.067 games away from the Grand Final. Oh eight hundred five, Alec, 1:41:10.267 --> 1:41:13.187 I know you've been amped up and ready and waiting 1:41:13.267 --> 1:41:14.147 to talk the Warriors. 1:41:14.187 --> 1:41:14.347 Mate. 1:41:14.387 --> 1:41:15.787 How are you feeling with two games to go? 1:41:18.027 --> 1:41:18.947 Piney? How's it going? 1:41:18.987 --> 1:41:19.227 Brother? 1:41:19.427 --> 1:41:21.347 What a great week in the sport that we've had. 1:41:23.347 --> 1:41:27.187 Oh Jesus, just so good to talk to listen to 1:41:27.267 --> 1:41:31.707 web talk. But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm confident Piney. 1:41:31.787 --> 1:41:36.027 If the boys can take care of business, it's everything's 1:41:36.027 --> 1:41:39.667 there for the taking. Obviously, you know we we won 1:41:39.707 --> 1:41:44.067 by nineteen, which is what we had to do. But yeah, 1:41:44.147 --> 1:41:47.427 I think I think that that if we can take 1:41:47.467 --> 1:41:50.667 care of business. That's pretty much all we can do. 1:41:51.027 --> 1:41:54.547 And then I'm hoping that the Dolphins can get up 1:41:54.587 --> 1:41:57.707 over those Roosters next weekend. And I mean even even 1:41:58.027 --> 1:41:59.667 I think I heard you say the Panthers play the 1:41:59.707 --> 1:42:03.347 Bulldogs as well. So I don't know if you watched 1:42:03.387 --> 1:42:05.827 the Bulldogs game, but they were on last night. I mean, 1:42:05.867 --> 1:42:08.707 I know they were only playing the Dragons, but you know, 1:42:08.787 --> 1:42:10.907 there's a few teams that are still fighting for their 1:42:10.987 --> 1:42:12.867 top eight spot, so they've got lots to play for, 1:42:13.107 --> 1:42:16.547 just like us. But yeah, if we can take care 1:42:16.587 --> 1:42:19.067 of business, it just puts us in that great, great 1:42:19.107 --> 1:42:21.347 stead to either finish first or second. Pointy. 1:42:21.907 --> 1:42:24.867 Indeed, yeah, you're right about the Bulldogs. Actually, yeah, and yes, 1:42:24.947 --> 1:42:28.107 the Panthers do play the Bulldogs next and you're right that. 1:42:28.267 --> 1:42:28.427 Yeah. 1:42:28.427 --> 1:42:29.867 The good thing about that, as you say, is that 1:42:29.947 --> 1:42:33.227 the Bulldogs still believe they can make the eight, so 1:42:33.907 --> 1:42:36.027 that won't be I mean, it is it is in Penrith, 1:42:36.587 --> 1:42:39.507 but yeah, it's no fore gone conclusion. I mean, the 1:42:40.307 --> 1:42:42.507 teams like the Tigers, for example, this afternoon, I mean, 1:42:42.507 --> 1:42:44.667 the Roosters should have no problem with them. But yeah, 1:42:44.667 --> 1:42:47.107 the likes of the Bulldogs, even you know, the Knights, 1:42:47.147 --> 1:42:50.587 who the Warriors play next week. I mean, we shouldn't 1:42:50.627 --> 1:42:53.267 downplay there. They're a party, you know, on their day. 1:42:53.267 --> 1:42:56.107 They're a good team too, you know, I mean even 1:42:56.227 --> 1:42:57.987 even yesterday, because I watched a bit of that night's 1:42:58.027 --> 1:43:01.227 game and you know, mainly mainly pipped them yesterday and 1:43:01.427 --> 1:43:05.187 and that was it at Newcastle. I'm pretty sure it 1:43:05.347 --> 1:43:07.227 was two pointy. So there was a bit of a 1:43:07.267 --> 1:43:09.187 shock because I thought the Knots would have taken that one. 1:43:09.307 --> 1:43:12.907 But obviously and then and then I think we play 1:43:12.987 --> 1:43:15.747 manly in that last round. So these are no easy 1:43:15.827 --> 1:43:18.547 games for the for the worst to win. But how 1:43:18.667 --> 1:43:21.427 hell we've been playing all season and then obviously with 1:43:21.507 --> 1:43:23.507 all our injuries that we've had, it's just that next 1:43:23.587 --> 1:43:26.547 man up mentality which the boys have, and I've got 1:43:26.587 --> 1:43:30.387 full confidence that we can take both of these games. 1:43:30.987 --> 1:43:32.707 And I mean there's a too early to say to 1:43:33.227 --> 1:43:34.787 book your tickets to the Grand Final. 1:43:35.347 --> 1:43:37.907 Absolutely not, It's absolutely not too early. In fact, I 1:43:37.947 --> 1:43:40.387 saw I heard them sound the commentary last night, because 1:43:40.387 --> 1:43:43.387 you can buy Grand Final tickets already, and I think 1:43:43.427 --> 1:43:44.947 you must have to put in when you buy them, 1:43:44.987 --> 1:43:47.027 you must have to put in which club you support 1:43:47.187 --> 1:43:50.267 and so get The club with the most Grand Final 1:43:50.347 --> 1:43:56.427 tickets purchased so far is the Warriors. Warriors fans exactly good, 1:43:58.147 --> 1:44:00.067 all right mate, You keep the faith, You keep the faith, 1:44:00.547 --> 1:44:04.107 You keep the faith, mate, Always good chatting to you, mate. 1:44:04.147 --> 1:44:06.907 I love the enthusiasm you bring to the radio. Stay 1:44:06.947 --> 1:44:08.507 with us on this mate. It's a sprint to the 1:44:08.907 --> 1:44:12.307 finish line for second. Warriors have the Knights in the Sea, Eagles, 1:44:12.427 --> 1:44:15.227 Panthers have the Bulldogs and the Titans, and then we'll know, 1:44:15.667 --> 1:44:17.747 we'll know where they are. I mean top four is 1:44:17.827 --> 1:44:21.267 basically sow and up now, so that will mean at 1:44:21.387 --> 1:44:24.827 least a finals game at home. It could be in 1:44:26.027 --> 1:44:29.347 It could be in week two or three or one, 1:44:29.907 --> 1:44:31.827 depending on where they finish. I'm not going to give 1:44:31.827 --> 1:44:34.107 you all the different combinations. I gave you the combination 1:44:34.227 --> 1:44:37.827 around finishing second. If the Warriors finished third or fourth, 1:44:38.387 --> 1:44:41.267 then they will go away in week one of the 1:44:41.387 --> 1:44:45.067 finals against either the first or second place side. If 1:44:45.107 --> 1:44:47.547 they were to win, that they would host in week three. 1:44:48.147 --> 1:44:50.387 If they were to lose that they would host in 1:44:50.467 --> 1:44:55.947 week two. So Warriors fans will have a guaranteed finals 1:44:56.027 --> 1:45:00.427 game at home now unless the Warriors completely drop their 1:45:00.467 --> 1:45:02.707 bundle and fall out of the top four, which I 1:45:02.827 --> 1:45:05.027 just can't see happening. Thanks Alec. Good to chat to 1:45:05.027 --> 1:45:08.707 you mate, Greg. Hi, there are you going good? Thank you? 1:45:08.827 --> 1:45:09.067 Greg? 1:45:11.227 --> 1:45:17.107 Isn't It's funny years and years we've sat down and 1:45:17.787 --> 1:45:21.267 worked out the permutations of whether we can get into 1:45:21.307 --> 1:45:21.907 the top eight. 1:45:23.307 --> 1:45:26.427 Yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you say, Greg. Yeah, 1:45:26.507 --> 1:45:29.747 We're still a mathematical chance. That's been our sentence for. 1:45:29.827 --> 1:45:35.067 So long exactly, and we're still a mathematical chance. 1:45:37.867 --> 1:45:38.547 I'm getting there. 1:45:40.227 --> 1:45:41.827 Yeah. I guess the difference, as you say, Greg, the 1:45:41.867 --> 1:45:44.147 difference is that, Yeah, in past seasons has been can 1:45:44.187 --> 1:45:46.747 we sneak into the eight? Now it's can we finish 1:45:46.827 --> 1:45:48.347 in the top two? Can we win the thing? For 1:45:48.427 --> 1:45:49.027 goodness sake? 1:45:50.187 --> 1:45:56.227 Of course we can. Basically any of the eight can 1:45:56.307 --> 1:45:56.587 win it. 1:45:59.987 --> 1:46:02.987 Yeah. I feel like I feel like if the Warriors 1:46:03.027 --> 1:46:06.787 make the Grand Final, they will I feel like that 1:46:06.907 --> 1:46:10.747 occasion will be something that suits them brilliantly. I feel 1:46:10.747 --> 1:46:12.747 like if they can make the Grand Final, they will 1:46:12.787 --> 1:46:15.747 almost be favorites to win it, regardless of who they're playing. 1:46:16.867 --> 1:46:18.427 There's a bit of water to fly under the bridge, 1:46:18.467 --> 1:46:20.907 but man, there is some momentum in the side, There 1:46:20.947 --> 1:46:22.667 are some depth in the side, there are some key 1:46:22.747 --> 1:46:25.907 players coming back, And ask Andrew Webster about to Mighty Martin, 1:46:25.947 --> 1:46:28.547 but I believe he's back next week. Jackson Ford won't 1:46:28.587 --> 1:46:30.867 be too far away. Even Luke metcalf Mark might make 1:46:30.867 --> 1:46:34.067 an appearance at the end. Dellan, what's zalisni x broken 1:46:34.107 --> 1:46:36.947 collar bone is obviously a blow, but he sounded confident 1:46:36.987 --> 1:46:38.507 that he'll play some part at the back end of 1:46:38.547 --> 1:46:41.307 the season. So I don't know. It just feels as 1:46:41.347 --> 1:46:43.467 though the stars are aligning and their time is now. 1:46:44.707 --> 1:46:44.907 Yeah. 1:46:44.907 --> 1:46:47.027 I think that's a very, very big call from you. 1:46:49.627 --> 1:46:51.427 It couldn't be the first time. 1:46:53.227 --> 1:46:56.467 You know, you watch the last couple of games and 1:46:56.947 --> 1:47:01.027 there's been ebbs and flows. Now ad literally everybody will say, well, 1:47:01.067 --> 1:47:07.267 in the past, those ebbs would have continued. Currently we 1:47:07.427 --> 1:47:10.987 seem to be able to pick ourselves up and get 1:47:11.027 --> 1:47:14.787 back on the horse. Like last night's game, I was like, 1:47:14.987 --> 1:47:20.667 oh Jesus, and I really felt like that as you 1:47:20.827 --> 1:47:23.267 said that it was actually a game of four quarters, 1:47:25.027 --> 1:47:27.987 Like we lost the first quarter, we won the second quarter, 1:47:28.107 --> 1:47:31.387 We've lost the third quarter, and we won the fourth quarter. 1:47:31.507 --> 1:47:34.507 In my mind and just taking the score out of 1:47:34.587 --> 1:47:39.587 the equation, just the way that the play went, you know, 1:47:40.347 --> 1:47:42.347 sitting on the edges of your seat all the time. 1:47:43.947 --> 1:47:47.267 One thing I'd like to mention is that and it's 1:47:47.347 --> 1:47:52.907 for the guys who don't get a lot of airtime, 1:47:52.947 --> 1:47:56.867 I suppose, and that's guys like Cathy. You know, the 1:47:56.987 --> 1:48:01.667 recruitment team that the worri is got. 1:48:02.947 --> 1:48:03.907 Is working so. 1:48:05.667 --> 1:48:11.067 Hard to get these flayers to come. Now, in the 1:48:11.147 --> 1:48:13.907 past we've had you know, great deal of dipically in 1:48:13.947 --> 1:48:17.187 getting players to come to the Warriors. Now they're lighting 1:48:17.267 --> 1:48:20.187 up at our door. But you know you need to negotiate, 1:48:20.307 --> 1:48:24.387 and you know, also to negotiate to get Andrew Webster 1:48:24.507 --> 1:48:27.067 for another four years. You know, it's all the back 1:48:27.147 --> 1:48:30.867 room stuff that these I suppose a lot of the 1:48:30.987 --> 1:48:35.227 fans don't actually realize. So I think they need a 1:48:35.267 --> 1:48:41.707 big slap on the back. But yeah, I just think 1:48:41.787 --> 1:48:45.787 that you know, we've got this, as you've said in 1:48:45.867 --> 1:48:49.027 the past, the next man mentality. But it's only through 1:48:49.147 --> 1:48:52.507 having the recruitment that we've got the right people in 1:48:52.587 --> 1:48:54.707 the right places to step up. 1:48:56.427 --> 1:48:59.907 Yep, bang on, great, bang on. And Andrew McFadden needs 1:48:59.947 --> 1:49:01.747 a big pat on the back is just say for 1:49:01.867 --> 1:49:05.547 doing that. The man they call Kappy, the recruitment head 1:49:05.587 --> 1:49:08.707 of recruitment at the Clibs bang on, mate, got to move, Greg, 1:49:08.787 --> 1:49:10.507 but keep the faith. I know you will. I know 1:49:10.587 --> 1:49:12.427 you'll keep me honest as well, and tell me when 1:49:12.427 --> 1:49:16.267 I'm making big calls too big. Thanks for yours twenty 1:49:16.307 --> 1:49:17.547 seven to three, Newstalks NB. 1:49:18.107 --> 1:49:21.507 A Big Calls, Big Moments We Can Sport with Jason 1:49:21.587 --> 1:49:22.827 Vine and the audi Q. 1:49:23.027 --> 1:49:28.067 Seven Dynamic Black Runout edition from One News Talks NB. 1:49:28.467 --> 1:49:30.627 Twenty four to three. Going to wrap Baliam Lawson at 1:49:30.627 --> 1:49:33.187 the Dutch Grand Prix in terms of qualifying shortly, but 1:49:33.507 --> 1:49:38.227 UFC Light Heavyweight World Champion Carlos Olberg and new Zella 1:49:38.307 --> 1:49:41.827 Music Icon six P sixty are taking eight Kiwi fans 1:49:42.227 --> 1:49:45.467 to Baltimore next month for the Ultimate US Roady. Two 1:49:45.587 --> 1:49:48.667 winners will take three mates with them. They'll watch the 1:49:48.667 --> 1:49:51.067 All Blacks play the spring Box from a private suite. 1:49:51.667 --> 1:49:56.107 They'll get backstage and VIP access to six sixties Baltimore 1:49:56.187 --> 1:50:00.427 show and take part in a private training experience with 1:50:00.587 --> 1:50:05.067 Carlos Olberg himself. Flights, accommodation, spending money all included. It's 1:50:05.147 --> 1:50:09.467 part of the greatest, the greatest shout it's a Manuka 1:50:09.627 --> 1:50:12.947 Fuel competition, Carlos old Burger's with us. How good is 1:50:13.027 --> 1:50:16.427 this gonna be? What a prize, Carlos bro What a prize? 1:50:16.507 --> 1:50:16.627 Right? 1:50:16.747 --> 1:50:17.067 Men? 1:50:17.107 --> 1:50:20.027 I think what this essentially is bo A is the 1:50:20.187 --> 1:50:24.187 ultimate Huey experience both. So yeah, man, I think, well, 1:50:24.187 --> 1:50:26.307 because I know I know the Manuka Fuel team and 1:50:26.587 --> 1:50:27.067 you know the guy. 1:50:27.147 --> 1:50:28.027 The guy's quite up there. 1:50:28.187 --> 1:50:30.747 They're awesome guys, and what they're wanting to do is 1:50:31.507 --> 1:50:34.227 just take a slice of altered or over to the 1:50:34.347 --> 1:50:35.947 USA and give them that experience. 1:50:36.027 --> 1:50:36.227 Both. 1:50:36.307 --> 1:50:39.307 So I think, yeah, you think you said it pretty simply. 1:50:39.667 --> 1:50:42.667 Everyone's just going and go to like go to New 1:50:42.747 --> 1:50:45.787 World or pack and save, grab yourself for Minuka Fuel 1:50:46.387 --> 1:50:49.267 drink and you're in the draw. So I think thirtieth 1:50:49.387 --> 1:50:52.747 of August is when it closes both. So yeah, man, 1:50:52.787 --> 1:50:54.427 I guess I guess you just get to hang. 1:50:54.347 --> 1:50:54.747 Out with us. 1:50:55.787 --> 1:50:58.147 It's an outstanding prize. And the thing about it I 1:50:58.507 --> 1:51:00.587 really like is that you've got your winners, but they 1:51:00.667 --> 1:51:02.467 get to bring three of their mates as well. It's 1:51:02.547 --> 1:51:04.187 it's it's quite key with isn't it. 1:51:04.227 --> 1:51:04.387 You know? 1:51:04.427 --> 1:51:06.147 You know, just win something for yourself, you get to 1:51:06.387 --> 1:51:09.387 make three of your mates along for the ride exactly. 1:51:09.707 --> 1:51:11.467 I mean I've already gone and done mine too, So 1:51:11.987 --> 1:51:12.787 I think you get to win. 1:51:13.347 --> 1:51:14.587 You get the chance to win twice. 1:51:14.667 --> 1:51:17.187 Maybe, so if you go and buy one from from 1:51:17.707 --> 1:51:19.587 Pack and Save and you go one go get one 1:51:19.627 --> 1:51:23.027 from New World, and you get two chances. So I think, yeah, 1:51:23.027 --> 1:51:25.227 I think that's that's a pretty cool price to give 1:51:25.267 --> 1:51:27.627 a friend, if you know, if I get the win, 1:51:27.747 --> 1:51:28.427 so that'll be cool. 1:51:28.747 --> 1:51:31.987 How did your friendship with six sixty development? How much 1:51:32.027 --> 1:51:34.387 fun is it going to be doing something like this together? 1:51:35.547 --> 1:51:36.147 Pretty big man. 1:51:36.187 --> 1:51:38.507 I mean I've known the six sixty boys for quite 1:51:38.547 --> 1:51:40.587 a while. They actually had like a boxing gym just 1:51:40.667 --> 1:51:43.707 out in Kingsland, and and I was turning out of 1:51:43.747 --> 1:51:45.707 there for a few years and got to build a 1:51:45.707 --> 1:51:49.227 relationship with those boys therefore for a bit. And yeah, 1:51:49.267 --> 1:51:52.307 build a relationship with them. So going on on this 1:51:52.427 --> 1:51:53.787 trip with them will be pretty cool. 1:51:54.387 --> 1:51:57.227 And what about the private training experience with you? What 1:51:57.347 --> 1:51:59.147 are our right when it's going to get to experience? 1:51:59.227 --> 1:52:00.987 So when they were they going to get the full 1:52:01.067 --> 1:52:02.027 Carloss experience. 1:52:02.587 --> 1:52:04.627 I'll make it light, bro, I'll make it pretty light. 1:52:04.707 --> 1:52:06.667 So it's pretty Yeah, I'll make it like you know, 1:52:06.987 --> 1:52:09.427 well on there, we were on, we're on, we're on 1:52:09.507 --> 1:52:12.387 holiday modes, so nice and easy, but. 1:52:13.947 --> 1:52:15.107 We'll spice it up a little bit. 1:52:15.307 --> 1:52:17.347 I know you're a big sports fan yourself. How much 1:52:17.387 --> 1:52:19.027 you're looking forward to watching the All Blacks take on 1:52:19.107 --> 1:52:20.547 the spring Box in Baltimore. 1:52:21.387 --> 1:52:22.387 Yeah, pretty big, man. 1:52:22.427 --> 1:52:24.547 I mean it's it's what their last test match there, 1:52:24.587 --> 1:52:27.387 So I think it's going to be a pretty big 1:52:27.467 --> 1:52:30.907 thing for us kiwis anyway, just to go and go overseas. 1:52:30.467 --> 1:52:31.667 And experience that moment. 1:52:32.427 --> 1:52:33.507 And I think there's going to be some. 1:52:33.547 --> 1:52:37.187 Pretty big stars there as well. So I think that's 1:52:37.227 --> 1:52:39.067 a that's one thing to look up to look up for. 1:52:39.827 --> 1:52:42.467 You've spent your career competing at the highest level. Do 1:52:42.547 --> 1:52:45.107 you see a similar mentality in the in the in 1:52:45.187 --> 1:52:48.387 the way that our elite rugby players get themselves ready 1:52:48.387 --> 1:52:49.547 for massive matches like this? 1:52:51.227 --> 1:52:52.507 Yeah, man, I mean definitely. 1:52:52.587 --> 1:52:54.707 I think if you, if you, if you put the 1:52:54.827 --> 1:52:58.467 work in and and you know, all these these guys 1:52:58.507 --> 1:53:01.547 have the experience as well as the workload, uh and 1:53:01.627 --> 1:53:03.587 the and the trust and the process, and I think 1:53:03.627 --> 1:53:05.187 they'll they'll be able to get the job done. But 1:53:05.267 --> 1:53:07.147 I mean they've been doing it for such a long 1:53:07.187 --> 1:53:08.547 time that they know what to do, they know what 1:53:08.627 --> 1:53:09.107 to expect. 1:53:09.547 --> 1:53:09.707 Now. 1:53:09.827 --> 1:53:11.987 Our UFC listeners wouldn't forgive me if I didn't ask 1:53:12.027 --> 1:53:14.027 you how the recovery from the knee injury is going. 1:53:14.067 --> 1:53:14.707 How is it going? 1:53:15.427 --> 1:53:16.667 It sucks, bloke, it sucks. 1:53:16.667 --> 1:53:18.427 I'm on the sidelines. I'm just at the gym now, 1:53:18.507 --> 1:53:20.427 so just watching the guys. 1:53:20.307 --> 1:53:22.627 Training and doing their thing. 1:53:22.707 --> 1:53:26.387 It's just I'm getting itchy feet. So I can't wait 1:53:26.427 --> 1:53:28.627 to get myself back in there, which will be a 1:53:28.707 --> 1:53:32.147 couple of months yet to Liken jump on those mats. 1:53:32.187 --> 1:53:35.187 So just learning by watching at the moment. 1:53:35.467 --> 1:53:37.307 Yeah, and so are we are we on track for 1:53:37.507 --> 1:53:39.667 a return sometime early twenty seven? 1:53:39.747 --> 1:53:39.907 Is that? 1:53:40.067 --> 1:53:41.667 Is that the plan for sure? 1:53:41.747 --> 1:53:41.827 Bro? 1:53:41.987 --> 1:53:42.507 That's the one. 1:53:42.587 --> 1:53:42.787 Yeah. 1:53:42.827 --> 1:53:45.267 I think all we need to do now is as 1:53:45.347 --> 1:53:48.307 make sure our body is all intact and we do everything. Well, 1:53:48.347 --> 1:53:51.347 we're ahead of schedule now, but make sure that we 1:53:51.707 --> 1:53:54.907 were physically and mentally strong so when we get in there, 1:53:54.947 --> 1:53:56.427 when we get on the mats, well, good to go. 1:53:56.667 --> 1:53:58.467 And you become one of the faces of New Zealand 1:53:58.467 --> 1:54:02.027 sport internationally. Yeah, how much responsibility. Do you feel to 1:54:02.347 --> 1:54:05.307 represent Aldodor when you when you enter the octagon? 1:54:06.387 --> 1:54:08.147 Yeah, man, I mean I've always, I've always whenever I 1:54:08.267 --> 1:54:11.347 gone there, I always put you know, at or and 1:54:11.507 --> 1:54:14.107 my country on my shoulders. 1:54:13.707 --> 1:54:15.787 And go in there with a lot of plates. 1:54:15.867 --> 1:54:21.267 So I think just with with with with us Kiwi's alone, 1:54:21.387 --> 1:54:23.987 just going in there to be able to represent. 1:54:25.267 --> 1:54:30.547 And and and sell our countries, so so so our Nissan. 1:54:31.027 --> 1:54:33.867 You know it's it's all possible, so always man. 1:54:34.027 --> 1:54:36.187 Yeah, good on your colors. Hey, well thanks for joining us. Mate, 1:54:36.227 --> 1:54:38.387 all the best when you do get your winners, you 1:54:38.547 --> 1:54:43.507 and six sixty over to Baltimore to to well take 1:54:43.547 --> 1:54:46.347 part in this wonderful price So Manuka fuel, if you 1:54:46.387 --> 1:54:48.787 buy it from New World or Pack and Safe, you'll 1:54:48.867 --> 1:54:52.387 be in the drawer for this great US roadie featuring 1:54:52.507 --> 1:54:57.627 Carlos Olberg and six sixty nineteen away from three we'll 1:54:57.627 --> 1:55:01.067 take them. Comeback talk some formula one because Liam Lawson 1:55:01.147 --> 1:55:04.867 has qualified eighth for tomorrow morning's Dutch Grand Prix. He 1:55:05.067 --> 1:55:07.467 is of course back in the red car. So how 1:55:07.507 --> 1:55:09.307 did he look overnight? Alex Powell out of the New 1:55:09.387 --> 1:55:10.387 Zealand Herold going to tell. 1:55:10.347 --> 1:55:13.267 Us Sport doesn't stop at the full time Whistle Weekend 1:55:13.347 --> 1:55:16.307 Sports with Jason Vine and the out e Q seven 1:55:16.427 --> 1:55:20.107 Dynamic Black Runout Edition includes thirty thousand dollars of premium 1:55:20.187 --> 1:55:23.587 upgrades Call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty News Dogs 1:55:23.587 --> 1:55:23.907 sa'd be. 1:55:24.427 --> 1:55:27.467 Two forty five. Liam Lawson has qualified eighth for tomorrow 1:55:27.507 --> 1:55:30.187 morning's Dutch Grand Prix. He'll start on the grid beside 1:55:30.267 --> 1:55:34.147 Red Bull teammate Max for Stappin. Lawson had earlier finished 1:55:34.227 --> 1:55:36.787 eleventh in the sprint race won by the Mercedes of 1:55:36.867 --> 1:55:40.787 George Russell. New Zealand Herald motorsport writer and expert Alex 1:55:40.867 --> 1:55:42.947 powellers with us. Of course he's back in the Red 1:55:43.027 --> 1:55:47.107 Ball now, Alex having of course spent the rest of 1:55:47.187 --> 1:55:50.507 the season and the Racing Ball qualifying eight the longside 1:55:50.547 --> 1:55:54.467 Max for stapp and how impressive was his qualifying performance. 1:55:54.987 --> 1:55:58.827 Afternoon, Bonnie, Yeah, look, I sort of can't have enough 1:55:58.907 --> 1:56:01.187 superlatives for what lem Lawson was able to do in 1:56:01.267 --> 1:56:03.827 the early hours of this morning. And the great sadness 1:56:03.907 --> 1:56:06.027 is that the All blacks Worth is going to overshadow 1:56:06.027 --> 1:56:08.667 a lot of it. And if you remember last year 1:56:08.747 --> 1:56:11.427 when Liam Lawson was confirmed in that Red Bull car 1:56:11.547 --> 1:56:13.427 next to maxa stap and he was given a target 1:56:13.507 --> 1:56:16.347 to be within three tenths of the step in per 1:56:16.507 --> 1:56:19.587 lap the qualifying if he had this morning, he was 1:56:19.667 --> 1:56:23.067 about just over one tenth behind Max. So when you 1:56:23.147 --> 1:56:25.347 look at that, having had no time to prepare in 1:56:25.427 --> 1:56:27.627 this car, he had one hour on the Friday night 1:56:27.707 --> 1:56:30.987 into a sprint qualifying into a sprint race, and he's 1:56:31.067 --> 1:56:33.187 just coming and he has shown there is very little 1:56:33.267 --> 1:56:35.387 between the two, which when you think about the quality 1:56:35.427 --> 1:56:36.907 of Max the stap and you've got to remember you 1:56:36.947 --> 1:56:39.587 look at Isaac Hadjar as his teammate, who's at his 1:56:39.987 --> 1:56:42.987 average gap to his teammate this year is about two 1:56:43.187 --> 1:56:47.027 tenths two point three tenths maybe, So look, I mean 1:56:47.067 --> 1:56:49.787 it's just a huge tick for Liam Lawson and where 1:56:49.907 --> 1:56:51.867 we know he is. But now I think the rest 1:56:51.907 --> 1:56:53.707 of the world, in Red Bull in particular, are able 1:56:53.747 --> 1:56:54.067 to see it. 1:56:55.227 --> 1:56:57.867 He's been very careful afterwards, I see not to frame 1:56:57.947 --> 1:57:01.427 this up as any kind of vindication or ravene or 1:57:01.467 --> 1:57:04.267 anything like that. Those are probably media phrases rather than his. 1:57:04.787 --> 1:57:08.227 Do you think he has genuinely put that whole episode 1:57:08.267 --> 1:57:08.827 behind him. 1:57:09.827 --> 1:57:09.987 Yeah? 1:57:10.027 --> 1:57:12.867 Absolutely, I mean the important thing here is that Liam 1:57:12.947 --> 1:57:15.427 has been very forthright about the way he feels about 1:57:15.427 --> 1:57:17.747 the whole Red Bull situation. He says that he feels 1:57:17.747 --> 1:57:20.027 like it almost didn't count that he's never really driven 1:57:20.107 --> 1:57:23.267 Red Bull because he had two races and was unceremoniously 1:57:23.387 --> 1:57:25.587 axed and moved back down to Racing Balls. But the 1:57:25.627 --> 1:57:28.867 way he's rebuilt and earned this chance, Let's not forget 1:57:29.067 --> 1:57:31.387 like Red Bull had plenty of options to put in 1:57:31.467 --> 1:57:33.307 that car next to Mexa Step, and they went with 1:57:33.427 --> 1:57:35.587 Lemowson because they knew he was the one who could 1:57:35.587 --> 1:57:37.427 give them what they want or had the best chance 1:57:37.467 --> 1:57:40.907 of what they want when or not help get this 1:57:41.107 --> 1:57:44.027 chance again in the future. It's probably way too soon 1:57:44.107 --> 1:57:46.867 to say, But in terms of revenge or proving people wrong, 1:57:46.987 --> 1:57:49.507 I think it's not about that he's proved himself right, 1:57:49.827 --> 1:57:52.507 and that's what I think him and the people closest 1:57:52.507 --> 1:57:53.907 to Lamb will really be happy with. 1:57:55.067 --> 1:57:58.267 Time in the car has to be a factor he 1:57:58.387 --> 1:58:00.747 does not. He's having a terrific season at Racing Balls. 1:58:01.187 --> 1:58:03.667 Ninth in the championship, so only the big for McLaren 1:58:03.707 --> 1:58:06.787 Mercedes Ferrari Red Ball ahead of them. Do you think 1:58:06.827 --> 1:58:10.987 this year has fundamentally changed Liam as a Formula One 1:58:11.067 --> 1:58:11.867 driver for the Beta. 1:58:11.947 --> 1:58:14.427 I mean yeah, I mean, of course it has. You know, 1:58:14.587 --> 1:58:17.427 like the knock he would have taken to his confidence 1:58:17.547 --> 1:58:19.587 last year, I think we all saw, like you look 1:58:19.627 --> 1:58:22.187 at what happened in twenty twenty five, that's kind of 1:58:22.227 --> 1:58:25.027 the aberration in his career. He was competitive in Formula 1:58:25.107 --> 1:58:27.867 two and Formula three without really challenging for a title. 1:58:28.227 --> 1:58:29.947 But you look at how he raced in Germany and 1:58:29.987 --> 1:58:31.987 the DTM series and he came within one race of 1:58:32.027 --> 1:58:34.787 winning that. The same with super Formula in Japan. So 1:58:34.947 --> 1:58:37.107 he knows that he is a driver who can fight 1:58:37.187 --> 1:58:38.667 at the front of the field, and it's just been 1:58:38.667 --> 1:58:41.027 about earning the chance to get into a seat where 1:58:41.027 --> 1:58:43.347 he could show that. And that's kind of come this week. 1:58:43.387 --> 1:58:44.987 I mean, Red Bull are a top team, but they 1:58:45.067 --> 1:58:47.867 probably do have the fourth best car of the year, 1:58:47.987 --> 1:58:50.667 and I mean what we'll see I mean over seventy 1:58:50.747 --> 1:58:53.227 two laps later tonight into the early hours of tourrom 1:58:53.227 --> 1:58:56.187 On and will probably show just where he stands now. 1:58:57.107 --> 1:58:58.987 I remember there's a lot of talk last year about 1:58:59.027 --> 1:59:02.027 how unless you were a genius like Max for stap 1:59:02.147 --> 1:59:04.547 and you couldn't drive the Red Bull car. It was well, 1:59:04.587 --> 1:59:06.467 you could drive it, but not very well. You know 1:59:06.507 --> 1:59:09.147 what I mean. Is the twenty twenty six Red Ball 1:59:09.867 --> 1:59:12.307 more driveable than the twenty twenty five version. 1:59:13.107 --> 1:59:13.267 Yeah? 1:59:13.307 --> 1:59:16.467 Absolutely, I mean the twenty twenty five car was just 1:59:16.547 --> 1:59:18.627 a peg basically. You look at what Max of Staffan 1:59:18.707 --> 1:59:20.347 was able to do and that just shows how good 1:59:20.867 --> 1:59:23.507 he is. But the regulation change and the way they've 1:59:23.507 --> 1:59:25.987 been able to just strip everything back and redesign this car, 1:59:26.827 --> 1:59:28.947 and you look at the way Isaac hadjust performed in it, 1:59:29.027 --> 1:59:31.747 and it really does show that it is an easier 1:59:31.787 --> 1:59:34.667 car to drive. Hadjars in a second season of Formula One, 1:59:34.827 --> 1:59:37.147 and he did very well in the racing balls last year. 1:59:37.707 --> 1:59:39.587 But the gap he has managed to close to the 1:59:39.627 --> 1:59:41.867 step and you look at the quality drivers that had 1:59:41.947 --> 1:59:43.347 struggled next to the. 1:59:43.387 --> 1:59:44.267 Full time of a champion. 1:59:44.267 --> 1:59:46.427 You've not just got Laws and you've got Pierre Gasley, 1:59:46.427 --> 1:59:49.667 You've got Alex Albon, You've got Sergio Perris, the guys 1:59:49.667 --> 1:59:51.587 who have all shown elsewhere on the grid that they 1:59:51.627 --> 1:59:55.147 are really good drivers. But back dear question, and yeah, 1:59:56.027 --> 1:59:59.707 the quality of this Red Bull car is clearly it 1:59:59.787 --> 2:00:01.787 is an easier car to drive. It is still much 2:00:01.827 --> 2:00:04.427 more difficult than the Racing bulls lamb Lawson is used 2:00:04.467 --> 2:00:06.427 to because that, I mean, by all accounts of a 2:00:06.587 --> 2:00:10.427 very nice car to drive. But where he goes with 2:00:10.587 --> 2:00:15.147 this one, I think he'll be grateful that he's not 2:00:15.267 --> 2:00:16.827 in that twenty twenty five Red Bull. 2:00:17.907 --> 2:00:20.467 I see he's also spoken about tailoring the car much 2:00:20.547 --> 2:00:22.747 more closely to what he actually wants. Is that another 2:00:22.787 --> 2:00:25.227 big difference between the Liam of last year and this 2:00:25.387 --> 2:00:28.707 that he's more confident now telling the engineer is exactly 2:00:28.787 --> 2:00:29.347 what he needs. 2:00:30.667 --> 2:00:31.467 No, I wouldn't say that. 2:00:31.547 --> 2:00:34.427 I think what we've heard about Lem Lawson right through 2:00:34.507 --> 2:00:37.147 his time in Red Bull is that he is very 2:00:37.507 --> 2:00:40.427 able to give precise driver feedback. You look at why 2:00:40.627 --> 2:00:43.227 he's given him and sorry, why he's been given the 2:00:43.227 --> 2:00:46.227 opportunities he has. It's because of things like that, because 2:00:46.227 --> 2:00:48.987 he's very good at helping teams develop their cars. You 2:00:49.027 --> 2:00:51.427 look at the fact that he has no commercial backing, 2:00:52.027 --> 2:00:54.427 or effectively no commercial backing. He doesn't come from money, 2:00:54.427 --> 2:00:57.427 he doesn't come from a huge population base that Red 2:00:57.467 --> 2:01:00.387 Bull can sell ten million caps and ten million cans 2:01:00.387 --> 2:01:02.067 of drink to every week. So he's got to have 2:01:02.187 --> 2:01:04.787 something in its corner that they do really value him 2:01:04.827 --> 2:01:07.667 for in that technical feedback. Just part of that along worth. 2:01:07.827 --> 2:01:10.467 Now we're seeing, especially next to otherland lad the sort 2:01:10.467 --> 2:01:12.587 of guidance he can give junior members of that team. 2:01:13.947 --> 2:01:19.227 So eighth on the grid, this circuit is reportedly quite 2:01:19.307 --> 2:01:23.747 difficult to overtake on. So what a good result is eight? 2:01:23.787 --> 2:01:26.307 The good result eight will be phenomenal. 2:01:26.627 --> 2:01:28.747 Like I said earlier, this is probably the fourth best cart, 2:01:28.827 --> 2:01:30.947 So seventh and eighth are really where they should be, 2:01:30.987 --> 2:01:33.347 and that's where they are on the grid. It's actually 2:01:33.387 --> 2:01:36.187 going to be a really interesting sort of dynamic. We've 2:01:36.227 --> 2:01:39.267 seen over the last what sixteen months back as time 2:01:39.307 --> 2:01:41.227 at racing balls that Lam Lawson has turned into a 2:01:41.347 --> 2:01:43.867 very good defensive driver. One season in front of you, 2:01:43.947 --> 2:01:46.227 it's very hard to overtake him, but you look at 2:01:46.267 --> 2:01:48.627 how he came up through the grades and through all 2:01:48.667 --> 2:01:51.787 the junior series, and he is actually really aggressive. He's 2:01:51.947 --> 2:01:53.947 very good at getting on the brakes late to beat 2:01:53.947 --> 2:01:55.987 you into a corner and then accelerate out of it quickly. 2:01:56.467 --> 2:01:58.187 Whether or not we'll get to see that tonight, just 2:01:58.267 --> 2:02:01.067 because of the pace troubles that Red Bull are having 2:02:01.147 --> 2:02:03.467 compared to the McLaren for the Mercedes and the ferraris 2:02:03.947 --> 2:02:06.187 is to be seen. But if he gets the opportunity 2:02:06.187 --> 2:02:08.387 to try and get some overtaking done, especially over a 2:02:08.507 --> 2:02:12.027 race distance, I think we'll hopefully see something special. But 2:02:12.147 --> 2:02:13.627 I think at Hold eights that would also be a 2:02:13.707 --> 2:02:16.427 world class result given the circumstances that he's found himself 2:02:16.427 --> 2:02:17.027 in this weekend. 2:02:17.947 --> 2:02:20.387 What time has lights out and away we go. 2:02:21.427 --> 2:02:26.867 It's an early one, it's one am, so if anyone, yeah, 2:02:26.987 --> 2:02:29.307 so if anyone wants to take the night off, I'll 2:02:29.347 --> 2:02:31.227 have something up on the Herald first thing in the morning. 2:02:31.347 --> 2:02:33.667 But otherwise tune in because there could be a good 2:02:33.707 --> 2:02:34.307 one for our key. 2:02:34.387 --> 2:02:35.547 We in there well. 2:02:35.667 --> 2:02:37.667 Regardless of whether they watch or not, they'll definitely be 2:02:37.787 --> 2:02:39.587 reading on the here of what you write about at Alex, 2:02:39.627 --> 2:02:42.187 your analysis is always good reading. Thanks for joining us 2:02:42.227 --> 2:02:44.147 on here as well, mate, Alex Powell. Read him at 2:02:44.187 --> 2:02:47.267 enzid herol dot co dot NZ. Eight Away from three 2:02:47.387 --> 2:02:48.027 News Talks B. 2:02:49.147 --> 2:02:52.067 The big Names and the big calls on your home 2:02:52.147 --> 2:02:56.467 of sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks. 2:02:56.307 --> 2:02:58.347 MB coming at four and a half to three. That'll 2:02:58.387 --> 2:03:00.827 just about do us on Weekend Sport for today, I 2:03:00.907 --> 2:03:02.827 was thinking to myself and that bit abreak. 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