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Speaker 3: One of the all time great All Blacks performances, particularly
Speaker 3: away from home, particularly in the second half. Five tries
Speaker 3: to one the All Blacks biggest ever win at Alice
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Speaker 3: Yes, certainly was All Blacks thirty three South Africa sixteen
Speaker 3: or Black's assistant coach Jason Ryan is with us on
Speaker 3: Weekend Sport Jace. Where does that sit among your most
Speaker 3: satisfying days with the All Blacks?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's up there.
Speaker 9: Look, any any one you love it, but any test
Speaker 9: one in South Africa, especially Alice Park you love it
Speaker 9: even more. And we were under a massive amount of
Speaker 9: pressure at set piece and how we made the adjustments
Speaker 9: we needed to and came back with a ship tone
Speaker 9: of care and a whole lot of effort and belief
Speaker 9: in our game I think was pretty special.
Speaker 3: Can you give us an insight into the adjustments that
Speaker 3: you made that made the difference?
Speaker 9: Well, I think at scrum time, you know, there was
Speaker 9: one there that we missed a hit a little bit.
Speaker 9: They're getting a hit on us and potentially went a
Speaker 9: little bit early on us. We also, you know, we
Speaker 9: got rewarded just after halftime for them stepping left. You know,
Speaker 9: the whole thing around world rugby is you've got a
Speaker 9: scrum square. So we got one there that we probably deserved,
Speaker 9: and probably in hindsight, Easling grew hurt his neck, the
Speaker 9: group hurt his knee pretty bad early on in the
Speaker 9: start of the Test match, and we probably should have
Speaker 9: looked to hook him a little bit earlier because that
Speaker 9: he was sort of firing on one leg. So you
Speaker 9: sort of put those couple of things together, probably as
Speaker 9: the reflection of the adjustice we made and what we
Speaker 9: talked about at halftime around showing really good pictures.
Speaker 3: And then in the second half early South Africa is
Speaker 3: still putting you under huge pressure. You hold, you hold,
Speaker 3: and then you get a scrum penalty of your own
Speaker 3: under your own horns. How big a moment was that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 9: That's what it was a big moment, and that was
Speaker 9: reward to the adjustments we made. And as I say,
Speaker 9: it was for them stepping left, which is you know
Speaker 9: that that that did swing the momentum. And then then
Speaker 9: we got into a mall and we got a more
Speaker 9: penalty and then it was like, okay, we've got to
Speaker 9: put a momentum here, and and we we sort of
Speaker 9: kept the we kept the pressure on them a little.
Speaker 8: Bit and you know, got some reward for it.
Speaker 9: But yeah, a lot, massive, massive if it from the
Speaker 9: boys coming on. And I think we were showed that
Speaker 9: we're pretty flitt at the moment too, So I think
Speaker 9: that's pretty positive.
Speaker 3: Is effective scrummaging more about technique or physical strength?
Speaker 8: Oh that's a great question.
Speaker 9: Look the spring box like they are a Brett packed
Speaker 9: and when they get it right, they are very very
Speaker 9: hard to stop with their mass and how big they are. Right, technically,
Speaker 9: we could have been a little bit better tonight, but
Speaker 9: as I said, I'm proud that the boys made the
Speaker 9: adjustments scrums and it's matched as similar to twelve rounds
Speaker 9: of boxing. We're not going to win every round and
Speaker 9: tonight we didn't win every round, but we probably won
Speaker 9: a couple of rounds that that mattered, I guess, and
Speaker 9: we got rewarded for it. And to say the adjustice
Speaker 9: we made it our time. So pretty proud of the
Speaker 9: boys there. We've still got work to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess to use the boxing analogy you've
Speaker 3: got the points victory well and truly, Jase, how much
Speaker 3: of a tactic is inducing fatigue in your opposition?
Speaker 9: Yeah, when you hold the ball and bald phases, you know,
Speaker 9: and you and we trust our skill set, like we
Speaker 9: we threw a whole lot of osloads that probably weren't
Speaker 9: even on that did stick because the boys have been
Speaker 9: optimistic about how they want to play, which is what
Speaker 9: rends U driven right from the start.
Speaker 8: And when you do that, the fatigue does kicking.
Speaker 9: And and we I believe we found another couple of
Speaker 9: years in that last twintery, you know, and put the
Speaker 9: pressure on them, and we should be pretty satisfied with
Speaker 9: that part of the game, and how the leaders have
Speaker 9: been doing a lot of good work with Gilbert and
Speaker 9: ocre and just adapting to the pressure and just enjoying
Speaker 9: that and understanding that it's so tough over here, you know,
Speaker 9: one v two in the world and at Alice Park,
Speaker 9: like you just got to enjoy this and we will.
Speaker 8: But there's work to do tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Fabian Holland hercule in eighty minutes charge down Try. I
Speaker 3: had to stay on because of course, Josh Lord departed
Speaker 3: earlier than you would have hoped. Not bad for a
Speaker 3: bloke who hasn't played much rugby recently.
Speaker 9: Fabian Holland, Yeah, he's done a lot of work and
Speaker 9: conditioning and you know it was a big arm. He
Speaker 9: went to the well tonight. He had to dig a
Speaker 9: pretty big hole and keep digging it. So pretty satisfied
Speaker 9: Harry got through his work. So we'll have to look
Speaker 9: after him this week. I mean we're not you know,
Speaker 9: we don't need to get any.
Speaker 10: Sutter or stronger.
Speaker 9: And still we've got to keep the boys fresh now
Speaker 9: and I think that'll be a big part of the
Speaker 9: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: The last time you played South Africa, Jace, you joined
Speaker 3: me the day after you took my call. You answered
Speaker 3: some pretty tough questions. Thirteen of the twenty three who
Speaker 3: played that night played again today. Was that forty three
Speaker 3: ten talked about at all or do you think it
Speaker 3: privately drove any individuals?
Speaker 11: It wasn't.
Speaker 9: It definitely wasn't talked about, but I guess you know,
Speaker 9: some of those things are always in. And then there's
Speaker 9: a couple of set piece moments and said we sit
Speaker 9: on the start of this call Ja slight. I was like,
Speaker 9: oh ship, here we go again type thing. But we,
Speaker 9: as I said, we made the adjustments. We showed a
Speaker 9: little bit more resilience under pressure, a little bit more
Speaker 9: composed and already made some really good decisions at key times.
Speaker 3: Does that at the end of the game, Does Alice
Speaker 3: Park ever get old? Looks amazing?
Speaker 9: Oh she's standing out here in the little now and yeah,
Speaker 9: you just got to enjoy got and I'm going to so.
Speaker 9: But we're not work to do with by no means
Speaker 9: satisflight and and but we will enjoy this.
Speaker 3: We well, you deserve to a lot of very happy
Speaker 3: keys early this morning watching that Jas. Thanks for taking
Speaker 3: the call mate, all the best as you move forward.
Speaker 8: No worries.
Speaker 9: I just say, I really appreciate that the support that
Speaker 9: we're I've had from home this week as this test
Speaker 9: match is built, and the support that we've had with
Speaker 9: the All Black supporters and the Yoners that are in
Speaker 9: the crowd today is not often you hear them that
Speaker 9: the All Black chanted his chant in Ellis Park, so.
Speaker 8: Pretty special.
Speaker 3: So thanks good man, good man, Jason, enjoy your evening, Jason,
Speaker 3: Ryan there out of Johannesburg, where the All Blacks have
Speaker 3: beaten South Africa thirty three points to sixteen. All right
Speaker 3: lines open on the All Blacks are starting to come
Speaker 3: and now jump on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Speaker 3: without doubt, one of the great All Blacks performances in
Speaker 3: recent times, the best I reckon since the last Rugby
Speaker 3: World Cup and probably the best since our went over
Speaker 3: Ireland in the twenty twenty three quarter final. Well worth
Speaker 3: the early alarm, resilience and grit and equal measure, a
Speaker 3: triumph of soaking up pressure, taking some hits and refusing
Speaker 3: to buck or let alone break. That fifteen minutes after
Speaker 3: halftime may well be one of the most significant periods
Speaker 3: of All Blacks rugby in this entire World Cup cycle,
Speaker 3: absorbing pressurewithstanding wave after wave of attack, and emerging unscathed.
Speaker 3: South Africa average five and a half points every time
Speaker 3: they entered the opposition twenty two in the last couple
Speaker 3: of years. Today it was point nine points. That is
Speaker 3: an absolute triumph of taking punches and staying in the fight.
Speaker 3: Couple of players, Fabian Holland immense Remember he didn't play
Speaker 3: any rugby at all between the twenty third of November
Speaker 3: and the twenty fourth of July, eight months out of
Speaker 3: the game with that shoulder injury eighty herculean minutes from him.
Speaker 3: Today on the Highvelt, Jordy Barrett fast becoming the All
Speaker 3: Black's most important player. Two massive pieces of defense to Deny,
Speaker 3: Malcolm Marx and Jasper Visa. He made fifteen tackles all up,
Speaker 3: that's more than anybody else on the field, and affected
Speaker 3: five turnovers again a game high. Jordy Barrett is now
Speaker 3: the rock upon which the All Blacks backline is built
Speaker 3: and the impact the All Blacks guy from their front
Speaker 3: row reserves also worth mentioning. George Bauer Fletcher Newell really
Speaker 3: influential off the bench today. When David Kirk announced a
Speaker 3: coaching change at the start of the year, he talked
Speaker 3: about trajectory. At that time it was a downward trajectory.
Speaker 3: Since Dave Rennie took over, it has been trending upwards
Speaker 3: and today it's spiked skywards. He has transformed this team
Speaker 3: since taking over and has them back on track for
Speaker 3: the World Cup next year. Seven wins from seven with obvious, intentional,
Speaker 3: noticeable crucial improvements in that time. Dave Rennie, by the way,
Speaker 3: has now coached internationally against South Africa five times and
Speaker 3: won four of them. Rugby Australia's decision to get rid
Speaker 3: of him in favor of Eddie Jones may well go
Speaker 3: down as one of the great fumbles in rugby history.
Speaker 3: Just a word on the ref Matthew Carley. Were quick
Speaker 3: to criticize the efforts up but he was excellent, remained
Speaker 3: calm and composed in that cauldron. Overalled the TMO twice.
Speaker 3: You love to see it. More of that. More of
Speaker 3: that please referees who trust their instincts. The respect that
Speaker 3: South African crowds show the Haker tells you an awful
Speaker 3: lot about them. Rasci Erasmus even took to social media
Speaker 3: ahead of the game and asked the nation's fans to
Speaker 3: stay silent during the harker, and they did while English
Speaker 3: and Australian fans try and drown it out with swing,
Speaker 3: low seat chariot and walsing Matilda. The silence around that
Speaker 3: magnificent arena during the Harker shows you why this rivalry
Speaker 3: is the greatest one. There is massive mutual respect between
Speaker 3: these two teams and their two sets of fans who
Speaker 3: love their rugby but can absolutely appreciate the greatness of
Speaker 3: the other. And the history that has led us to
Speaker 3: this point. Just before we go to the lines, I
Speaker 3: said yesterday we're about to find out how far apart
Speaker 3: the All Blacks and the spring Box are on that
Speaker 3: evident The answer is not very far apart at all.
Speaker 3: And yes there are work ons for the All Blacks.
Speaker 3: Fourteen penalties can say that that's too many. They still
Speaker 3: had a few problems under the high ball, and South
Speaker 3: Africa will come back with a vengeance in Cape Town.
Speaker 3: But for today, for right now, enjoy it because that
Speaker 3: display has most certainly pumped a fair degree of positivity
Speaker 3: into even the most pessimistic of All Blacks fans and
Speaker 3: given this team enormous belief that on any given day
Speaker 3: they can beat the spring Box.
Speaker 2: Weekends for it.
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Brent, good afternoon.
Speaker 12: Good afternoon, mate. Yeah, everything you said perfect. I'm kind
Speaker 12: of shocked because I had any money on the other team,
Speaker 12: which I don't normally do, which was really annoying, but
Speaker 12: that's life. I put the Shield challenge the other day.
Speaker 12: It's pretty quick to see one day of rantly Shield
Speaker 12: Challenge and talk talk talk, and all of a sudden
Speaker 12: we have a great and everything's changed. He's talking about
Speaker 12: the shield. Yeah. I was really impressed with Sultine the referee, mate,
Speaker 12: is is what you said is bang on? That guy
Speaker 12: had everything sorted. I actually thought there was a chance
Speaker 12: there that Africa could have got back in the game.
Speaker 12: Is that Ardie Selvie when they went upstairs.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 12: And for that I thought, on my back, pocket's going
Speaker 12: to get falled again. We're right, And then it changed
Speaker 12: was just I didn't care, It's just life. But yeah,
Speaker 12: I was really impressed. It's a lot of guys that
Speaker 12: I talked to. You said, Oh those cheese followers are
Speaker 12: no good. I tell you every one of those cheers
Speaker 12: guys stood up to pire you mate, And so I
Speaker 12: feel very good about that side of it. Obviously my
Speaker 12: pocket but sad, but this life. Yeah, I thought the
Speaker 12: captain Savia man, he was a massive and Jacobson like
Speaker 12: he's in nil bleats but for a reason and yeah
Speaker 12: and yeah pops, but worry there. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 12: we we I see that we would one. I'll be
Speaker 12: real happy now. If we lose the rest of them,
Speaker 12: I'll still be happy. But this is a chance for
Speaker 12: them to go on and have a series wonder if
Speaker 12: they've got a you know, I mean, they just need
Speaker 12: one more test out of the next three, and I
Speaker 12: think they've got a pretty good chance of doing it,
Speaker 12: and if they do, it's a huge result and a
Speaker 12: big shot for me.
Speaker 3: Good on your bread, well, apart from the fact you
Speaker 3: didn't win any money, good to hear you that you
Speaker 3: are pleased about the outcome of the game and the
Speaker 3: performance from the All Blacks. I mean, you're reeled off
Speaker 3: a couple of names there, and it's one of those
Speaker 3: where you start to name players who stood out and
Speaker 3: then you end up going through the whole team because
Speaker 3: they were all very, very good for the most part.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of guys had really big games.
Speaker 3: Just on the Artista Vit call. He was asked about
Speaker 3: that afterwards when they went upstairs to check whether it
Speaker 3: was shoulder to head contact, and he admitted afterwards he
Speaker 3: said he said, I was worried because whenever it goes upstairs,
Speaker 3: you are worried. But then Dave Rennie jumped in and
Speaker 3: said it's obvious that it's shoulder to shoulder because the
Speaker 3: head went forward towards Ardie. If it had been shouldered ahead,
Speaker 3: the head would have whipped backwards away from Ardie. It
Speaker 3: is simple physics, simple physics. And did you hear that, Tmo?
Speaker 3: He was doing all I don't know it was. He
Speaker 3: was doing all he could to get Artie Zavia yellow carded.
Speaker 3: It felt to me, but good on Matthew Carley. I mean,
Speaker 3: he probably needed the police escort to get out of
Speaker 3: the place. But he made the right decision. That was
Speaker 3: not shouldered a head contact. It was shouldered to shoulder
Speaker 3: and as he hit his shoulder, his head goes forward
Speaker 3: towards Ardie and that's when it makes contact with the shoulder,
Speaker 3: of makes contact with Artie's shoulder because it was shouldered
Speaker 3: to shoulder. Absolutely bang on the right decision. Richard, Hi, mate,
Speaker 3: how are we doing? I'm doing well, Richard, I'm doing well.
Speaker 3: What's good you mate?
Speaker 13: Look what stood out to me was in contrast to
Speaker 13: when we had Old Razor there for the last three tests.
Speaker 13: Now we know what our game plan is, Robinson, we
Speaker 13: had no idea, but these guys got at Drillden and
Speaker 13: even under some real try and sucstances today they So
Speaker 13: that was really good. I was quite impressed with that,
Speaker 13: and it's a relief to see, where as David Kirk
Speaker 13: would say, on the right trajectory. Now, so I thought
Speaker 13: we were quite lucky in the game that they were
Speaker 13: missfiring badly in the first half, because I couldn't have
Speaker 13: honestly said they looked under pressure. They were just off
Speaker 13: their game, I think South Africa. But in the second
Speaker 13: half we said well, okay, if you're going to play badly,
Speaker 13: we'll put you to the sword, and we did so.
Speaker 3: I think they were the better side in the first half,
Speaker 3: so they forget I think they were the best. They
Speaker 3: certainly outstrommed us. We gave away some scrum penalties. That
Speaker 3: ten minutes before halftime, I think they were kind of
Speaker 3: coming for us and getting out of that was a
Speaker 3: thirteen twelve halftime deficit was actually a bit of a
Speaker 3: victory in itself. And then the ten minutes after the
Speaker 3: breakers I said before a pivotal So look, they were
Speaker 3: better than us, but we stayed in the field. Where
Speaker 3: As Jason Ryan said, you don't have to win every round.
Speaker 14: No, that's right.
Speaker 13: We were hanging in there by a fingernails and luckily
Speaker 13: they were strong enough to keep us in there. But
Speaker 13: I still think South Africa lost that by not converting
Speaker 13: anything in the first half, and they won't be as bad,
Speaker 13: I don't think next week, but I'm pretty sure the
Speaker 13: coaches will have that sewing up and buttoned up with
Speaker 13: a better performance. The only criticism I have with the
Speaker 13: All Blacks was that high ball was the strategy.
Speaker 15: Not to jump for it.
Speaker 13: What we were shocking, shocking on our own.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I just no, yeah, any criticism.
Speaker 3: No, well, I hear you, mate, And it's a work on,
Speaker 3: as they say, it's a work on. But yeah, and look,
Speaker 3: Cameroy guard kicked a lot from the base, didn't He
Speaker 3: clearly at tactic that didn't happen in the early test
Speaker 3: of the year France and Italy in particular. He didn't
Speaker 3: kick from the base often in those games. But today
Speaker 3: obviously they decided that. You know, if they're on their
Speaker 3: own twenty two, they'd clear they're very good in the air,
Speaker 3: aren't they? That they are very good in the air?
Speaker 3: VALLIMPSA is diffusing bombs like a like like a bomb diffuser.
Speaker 3: One of the guys gets paid to do that. He
Speaker 3: is incredible under the high ball. So that's a work on.
Speaker 3: It is a work on, And the thing about the
Speaker 3: series is that now these coaching teams have context. They'll
Speaker 3: now go to Cape Town. They'll review everything that happened
Speaker 3: in the eighty minutes today, and they'll set their stall
Speaker 3: out accordingly, number twelve to twenty six. Peter, hold there
Speaker 3: with you after this, speed Li there, if you want
Speaker 3: to jump aboard. Give us your thoughts on the All
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Speaker 6: Roy got Assays's options from the floor, flins.
Speaker 5: It our right hand side and had to be Will
Speaker 5: Jordan gets the All Blacks on the board.
Speaker 4: He's fifty second a test.
Speaker 3: Level, unbelievably prolific. Will Jordan twelve thirty. I get a
Speaker 3: Jason Springbox have their bomb squad. Ama, Newell and Bauer
Speaker 3: are our mana squad. How good there's scrum turned the game?
Speaker 3: Good on your Devin and Jason. Don't forget Ruben Love's goalkicking.
Speaker 3: Fantastic again, says Tony. Yeah, it was very very good
Speaker 3: again wasn't he miss that? I think Will Jordan's tried
Speaker 3: the one we just heard there that was wide out.
Speaker 3: I think he missed that one but got the rest.
Speaker 3: It's a good point, Tony, Peter.
Speaker 7: High, Hey, how are you doing there?
Speaker 3: Very good? Thank you, Peter.
Speaker 7: Mike Adamson was tmos got as dude X inter national
Speaker 7: sevens player.
Speaker 17: I thought he would have had a better feel for
Speaker 17: the game, but hey, there you go.
Speaker 7: But what I think saw this morning was the rugby
Speaker 7: version of the the le ropodope.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've seen that phrase use Peter by a couple
Speaker 3: of journalists and a couple of commentators. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: what do we do loull them into a false sense
Speaker 3: of security? Or they made them think they had us?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: The books had us under pressure and every facet of
Speaker 7: the game in the first half except one, and that
Speaker 7: was a scoreboard. They weren't converting possession and position into points.
Speaker 7: And I think he had defensively Tanta Rumong and needs
Speaker 7: a big claud it because he obviously had the defensive
Speaker 7: structures working really really well. And then because they were
Speaker 7: putting the pressure on us, they're putting the pressure on themselves.
Speaker 7: And I think Hollyden's charged out earlier in the second
Speaker 7: half was just the catalyst.
Speaker 17: Really.
Speaker 7: It was just like, you know, hey, you know we've
Speaker 7: answered all your questions. Here are our questions. What's your response?
Speaker 7: And I just didn't have one.
Speaker 3: No, No, they didn't. And I saw it also mentioned
Speaker 3: and I'll ask Elliot Smith about this when I chated
Speaker 3: them after one. It feels as though, Peter, that if
Speaker 3: you match the spring Box physically, if you don't take
Speaker 3: a backward step, if you take some hits from them
Speaker 3: but give a couple back, they don't really have a
Speaker 3: heck of a lot else. That is probably understating things
Speaker 3: a little bit, because we know Tony Brown's a magnificent
Speaker 3: attack coach, but today it felt like that's all they had,
Speaker 3: the physicality and the robustness, and once we soaked that up,
Speaker 3: it was kind of our game in the second half.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were trying to truly bully us off the pitch,
Speaker 7: and then you know that chargegown was the equivalent of
Speaker 7: giving the bully of blood nose and E didn't.
Speaker 18: Know what's after that.
Speaker 3: Love the analogies you're coming up with today, Peter, So
Speaker 3: how are you feeling about the series now. I mean,
Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is now that we'll go
Speaker 3: to Baltimore with the series alive, regardless of what happens
Speaker 3: in our favor. I mean, we might have won it
Speaker 3: by then, who knows. But how are you feeling about
Speaker 3: the series compared to this time yesterday?
Speaker 19: Much much better?
Speaker 7: I mean I must have going into the game, I
Speaker 7: had the same sort of feeling that we had in
Speaker 7: the that I had in the quarterfinal against Ireland in
Speaker 7: the last up, and by half time that feeling you
Speaker 7: hadn't gone away. But it's just it shows that we've
Speaker 7: we've got the careful, we've got the game plan, we've
Speaker 7: got the coaches. Well, you know, we've got the recipe.
Speaker 7: It's in the oven at the moment. How it turns
Speaker 7: out a.
Speaker 3: Pay of these analogies of yours, well, wonderful stuff, mate,
Speaker 3: What a way with words you have go back any time,
Speaker 3: And I love when you love it with somebody sort
Speaker 3: of users, you know, talking about kitchen terms, their recipes
Speaker 3: and such like. Good to hear from me, mate, O
Speaker 3: eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number? How
Speaker 3: good was Fabian Holland and his try Jason incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he is. He is herculean, that guy Fabian Holland. Again,
Speaker 3: do you forget he hasn't played for eight months up
Speaker 3: until when did he have us came back that ramfully
Speaker 3: shield challenge or defense that Otago had against mid Canibury.
Speaker 3: He played forty minutes. That was it hadn't played since
Speaker 3: the end of year tour last year. Comes back from
Speaker 3: a shoulder injury, probably aerobically short of a gallop. But
Speaker 3: when Josh Lord went off, he knew he had to
Speaker 3: stay on. There was no real other option unless you
Speaker 3: moved someone like Simon Parker into the second row man.
Speaker 3: What a shift by Fabian Holland.
Speaker 20: Stuart Hi, oh hi Jason.
Speaker 8: Look.
Speaker 20: My first thing I'd say is I wouldn't want to
Speaker 20: be I have to do the role of a referee
Speaker 20: or touch judge or TMO in these situations. But what
Speaker 20: just occurred to me.
Speaker 15: Because I was just.
Speaker 20: Going to compliment the ref Matt Carling, and what happened
Speaker 20: was I listened to it live on your channel on
Speaker 20: the radio and last last night and earlier this morning. Sorry,
Speaker 20: and the ref was fantastic, Jay, And he you know,
Speaker 20: I don't I don't want to do a beat up
Speaker 20: on a difficult role these people have, but to sort
Speaker 20: of have the kind of calmness in that cauldron. And
Speaker 20: you know, he was respectful, but he I thought he
Speaker 20: rightly did check the tmo's decision. And the thing was, Jason,
Speaker 20: it was quite amazing on the radio because this could
Speaker 20: seem to hear what Matt Carling was saying, and he
Speaker 20: just showed composure, if I may say, even a bit
Speaker 20: of humor to try to relax the guys. But on
Speaker 20: both sides he said more than once he said, you know,
Speaker 20: come on, guys, that's on the occasion. I just think
Speaker 20: it was a slight shift. And uh, you know, because
Speaker 20: I like everyone and any any team that you support
Speaker 20: around the world, you know, we've got to protect how
Speaker 20: the heads and safe. But I'm always scared of a
Speaker 20: yellow or red card. And anyway, I don't want to
Speaker 20: ramble too much, but just to say, boy, I hope
Speaker 20: this more kind of.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 20: I think someone said that the rest customers instinct, but
Speaker 20: thank you for letting me express that.
Speaker 3: No good on you, Stuart. I totally agree. I've been
Speaker 3: nodding along as you've been chatting, and I too listened
Speaker 3: to the radio commentary, I sync it up with the
Speaker 3: television this morning, and and you would have heard Elliott
Speaker 3: and Gregor make that point. Matthew Carly had a very
Speaker 3: good game. He was exactly as you said, calm, composed,
Speaker 3: just took a moment to Breathe can you imagine how
Speaker 3: much of a quadron it must be in there? And
Speaker 3: with you know, ninety eight percent of that crowd supporting
Speaker 3: South Africa. And when he sees on the screen what
Speaker 3: appears to be a shouldered ahead, the ability just to
Speaker 3: take a breath, look at it, examine the facts and
Speaker 3: come up with the right decision. And that was just
Speaker 3: one example. I thought he had a terrific game and
Speaker 3: and added to the spectacle as well. Thanks you. I
Speaker 3: appreciate your call being good.
Speaker 21: Afternoon after Pony with is the will that is away?
Speaker 3: A will? Jordan?
Speaker 21: What do you record?
Speaker 22: Yeah?
Speaker 21: And it's and and it's funny because in joinery terms,
Speaker 21: a mule post is your most it's your main structural
Speaker 21: element to a seat of steers. And here we have
Speaker 21: Fletcher Newle just holding it up, just holding the whole
Speaker 21: thing up. These guys, you know, I like I like
Speaker 21: old mates and term the manor squad because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 21: I think Ready's turned around. And his answer was, we'll we'll,
Speaker 21: we'll give I'll give you a bomb squad. Just awesome.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 21: I was raised to be humble and and think, but no,
Speaker 21: let's let's just celebrate. And yeah, it's awesome to see.
Speaker 21: But I think the old spring Box were a bit
Speaker 21: like now, we've had a few games before they before
Speaker 21: they did to get things, you know, settled over there.
Speaker 21: And I think the spring Box, yeah, that might have
Speaker 21: just been like like you know, a dog that hasn't
Speaker 21: had a walk for a week while and then you
Speaker 21: take them for that walk and they've just got a
Speaker 21: bit too at the panicky, a bit too, a bit boisterous,
Speaker 21: and yeah going forward to you know, let's not be fools.
Speaker 21: We've got another three three more to go. But what's
Speaker 21: it now, the sixty sixty Ford forty three? Yeah, so
Speaker 21: keating to court. What are we can for sport in
Speaker 21: this country? The the Wahine. What a proud day man, Well, yeah.
Speaker 3: A proud day. And Dave ben Well said, mate Well said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's a good day to be a fan of
Speaker 3: New Zealand sports teams, that's for sure. Good on your ben.
Speaker 3: Thanks indeed, trust the South Africans play in the spirit
Speaker 3: of true sportsmanship. That's the way we roll. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: wasn't a dirty game, was it at all. There was
Speaker 3: nothing in there that there was a bit of a
Speaker 3: push and shove under the post at one stage. But
Speaker 3: you can tell the respect that these two teams hold
Speaker 3: each other in and it's well being just said. You know,
Speaker 3: we meant to be humble. Yes, you can be humble,
Speaker 3: but celebrate victory. That's allowed. You're allowed to celebrate wins
Speaker 3: like this. Anthony, Hi, great mate, how very good mate.
Speaker 15: I made.
Speaker 23: Look I called you last week and last Saturday, and
Speaker 23: the one thing that you and I sort of agreed
Speaker 23: on is that the all Blacks can just have parity.
Speaker 23: It was the one thing we agree and much of
Speaker 23: you remember, but we said, I told you they have parity.
Speaker 23: I think they are in with a chance. And it's
Speaker 23: exactly what happened yesterday in National. Previous callers said that
Speaker 23: the fact that when they get sort of like resistance
Speaker 23: a little bit, that's all they have, you know, And
Speaker 23: so it was it was quite good to see that
Speaker 23: the or Blacks just man up and of course with
Speaker 23: a with a mana squad coming up. That was that
Speaker 23: was really good. You know, it's just that force meeting force,
Speaker 23: and I think he might have got a little bit
Speaker 23: of a shock. I guess they didn't expect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I remember our chat last week.
Speaker 22: I do.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, certainly is coming back to me. But you
Speaker 3: talk about parity, I thought South Africa boss the first
Speaker 3: half at half time, yeah, yeah, but but parity across
Speaker 3: eighty minutes and and waiting and absorbing and taking at
Speaker 3: the odd punch or two, and then when you've soaked
Speaker 3: it up bouncing back the other way. Absolutely, yeah, mate.
Speaker 23: So this is exactly what I was. And I told
Speaker 23: all my all my other rugby mates, even in the Republic.
Speaker 23: I told him, Look, if the Orbits get parody over there,
Speaker 23: over the whole game, it's going to be game on
Speaker 23: and you better be watching because those backs of the
Speaker 23: or Blacks are lethal me. And it's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: The thing is, we all know, Anthony, we know, we
Speaker 3: all know that this ain't over. That's why. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I know you know too, mate. You're probably too humble
Speaker 3: to say it, but you're I mean, having had that
Speaker 3: run out this morning. Uh and with a week to
Speaker 3: prepare for Cape Town. I mean it's going to be
Speaker 3: an entirely different kettle of fish next week.
Speaker 23: True, it's going to be a sort of a semi
Speaker 23: All Black home game, I would think with all the
Speaker 23: support the All Blacks have, but I think they will
Speaker 23: not reach on their laurels. I think they will definitely
Speaker 23: be upward because now they they know what they are
Speaker 23: up again. And I don't think the spring Boks can
Speaker 23: change within a week. I think the spring Boks are
Speaker 23: the spring Box, you know, this is how they play.
Speaker 23: I think the All Black's got a couple that I
Speaker 23: think they've got a little bit more in the katy
Speaker 23: that they can take out.
Speaker 3: Good on you, Anthony, Hey, good to chat, make callback anytime.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we can chat again during the series. Like I say,
Speaker 3: there's a series. That's a great thing about it. I
Speaker 3: mentioned this yesterday, not just one game. And now we
Speaker 3: have to look at something else, you know, during the
Speaker 3: Rugby Championship and now we play Argentina or Australia whatever
Speaker 3: it is. We go again next week and the week
Speaker 3: after and the week after that. We're twenty five percent
Speaker 3: of the way through and as Jason Ryan said, you
Speaker 3: don't have to win every round, and that applies to
Speaker 3: the series as well. You don't have to win every round.
Speaker 3: South Africa can still win the series three to one,
Speaker 3: and that is one possible outcome. I hope that doesn't happen,
Speaker 3: and I don't think it will. But this is a
Speaker 3: series that is the first round of a four match series,
Speaker 3: which makes it all the more intriguing for me. Eighteen
Speaker 3: away from one, Mark Dallas, hold there with you after that,
Speaker 3: after this spielin if you want to jump a ball,
Speaker 3: we'll talk rugby for a bit longer. Oh eight hundred
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Speaker 6: Roy Garball left inside Barrett the skip past the two
Speaker 6: point five file on the left wing.
Speaker 4: Ben, Josh, Bobby, Josh Dorvey.
Speaker 3: Just for me to try a good try more be
Speaker 3: set up by two por Vai Piney. Everyone will talk
Speaker 3: about the front row swapping out and changing the game,
Speaker 3: but Ethan de Groot, quite possibly sacrificing his tour to
Speaker 3: play on and not force those coming on to have
Speaker 3: to play seventy at altitude will be the unspoken standout. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a very good point. Ethan de Group was not
Speaker 3: well at all going into the game. He spent most
Speaker 3: of the day before the game in bed, fronted up,
Speaker 3: as Dave Rennie puts it, barred up, and then had
Speaker 3: that nasty collision with Josh Lord. That was separate to
Speaker 3: all of that, of course, but the fact that he
Speaker 3: went on and stayed on, as this tech said, until
Speaker 3: that happened, meant that, you know, he could have come
Speaker 3: off of ten minutes. He was clearly not right. He
Speaker 3: was having trouble with his knee that was getting scrapped up,
Speaker 3: unless that was just a cover for the fact that
Speaker 3: he was really, really unwell. Regardless of all of that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: every minute he played was a minute one of those
Speaker 3: front row forwards off the bench didn't have to play
Speaker 3: at altitude. It's a very good point. Mark. Hi, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 17: It's a long time ago. It sort of snuck into
Speaker 17: the grand stand at Run Over two and anyway, it
Speaker 17: was getting towards the end of the game and the
Speaker 17: grand stand stood up and started clapping. I was going
Speaker 17: I was looking at the field wondering why, you know,
Speaker 17: someone coming off, But it was Dave Rennie coming down
Speaker 17: and walking through the crowd. And I don't think I've
Speaker 17: ever seen that anywhere before, you know, just the sort
Speaker 17: of admiration and the thanks for the coach and the
Speaker 17: way he takes everyone with him along the journey. And
Speaker 17: I think for the All Blacks, thank goodness that the
Speaker 17: decision was made, probably by David Cooks to make that change,
Speaker 17: you know, get rid of Razor and putting Dave Rennie.
Speaker 17: And I mean I didn't, I don't. I think it
Speaker 17: surprised everyone in the country when he did when he
Speaker 17: did that. But you know, given the start to this
Speaker 17: this series, it's it's the right.
Speaker 24: Call, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's any any doubt. I mean
Speaker 3: he's played seven matches or overseens seven matches and I've
Speaker 3: won them all. And as I say, across those seven matches,
Speaker 3: there's been been obvious improvement, you know, noticeable, important, significant
Speaker 3: improvement and development of the game plan. I think I've
Speaker 3: said it so often and probably to you Mark. You know,
Speaker 3: he's so clear when you hear him in media conferences.
Speaker 3: You listen to him and you say, I can understand
Speaker 3: that he doesn't. There's no word salad, there's no ambival sorry, ambiguity.
Speaker 3: And if that's what we see, then surely that clarity
Speaker 3: is also present inside the camp. He probably just says
Speaker 3: to these guys, Okay, here's what I need you to do,
Speaker 3: and they say, okay, we'll do that and it works.
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, And I think it's it's a little bit
Speaker 17: like that the worries. You know, everyone's playing better across
Speaker 17: the board, and I think, you know, for the most part,
Speaker 17: our stars stood up last night, you know, the Will
Speaker 17: Jordans and Jordie's, you know, Cam Royga just gets better
Speaker 17: and better. And you know, those three players have probably
Speaker 17: some of the best players that I've witnessed playing for
Speaker 17: the All Blacks, and they really are superstars and they
Speaker 17: do make a difference on the field. And I think
Speaker 17: the skill set right across the border is what South
Speaker 17: Africa or lacking. And I know they've sort of gone
Speaker 17: to this power game, and let's face it, they won
Speaker 17: the power game last night. But in my opinion, we
Speaker 17: won the skill game. Our little things we do and
Speaker 17: our skill set we're just better than theirs. And I think,
Speaker 17: you know, we can work on our scrum and perhaps
Speaker 17: our lineout wasn't so good in the second half. We
Speaker 17: can work on those things, but to change and get
Speaker 17: that skill set up to the level the All Blacks
Speaker 17: are playing at the moment. I think it's got a
Speaker 17: big challenge for Lassie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Mark, I agree, there's some thinking to do.
Speaker 3: But if we know Russi, we know that he will respond.
Speaker 3: He's a magnificent generation or rugby coach and armed now
Speaker 3: with eighty minutes of data from this test, you know
Speaker 3: that he's going to come out or his team is invigorate,
Speaker 3: it refreshed and with a different game plan. Next week
Speaker 3: they will be absolutely desperate not to lose in Cape
Speaker 3: Town and go to nil down. Wait for the reaction
Speaker 3: because it is coming. Ashiyahy Jason.
Speaker 18: I can't decide that the South Africans, whether their problem
Speaker 18: is a lack of match fitness or that they're playing
Speaker 18: so much Northern Hemisphere rugby nowadays since they left Super
Speaker 18: Rugby what five years ago, that when they come up
Speaker 18: against Southern Hemisphere sides now they're not Yeah, they're just
Speaker 18: not adjusting to the difference defensively. And the reason I
Speaker 18: say that is not just last night's performance, but against Argentina.
Speaker 18: For one of one spilled passed towards the end of
Speaker 18: that game, Argentina could have beaten them as well.
Speaker 3: Yep, they could have. They could well have. And you're right,
Speaker 3: and it's quite telling, isn't it. Ash that the games
Speaker 3: they played in July England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Hemisphere
Speaker 3: sides all comfortable wins, forty points on all of them,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, as you say, they come
Speaker 3: up against a team you know from the South that
Speaker 3: don't come you know, in terms of the style. They
Speaker 3: don't play Argentinian teams very often, and it's a different challenge.
Speaker 3: And look it's eighty minutes. And I look back to
Speaker 3: last year and I think, well, they seem to adapt
Speaker 3: okay after losing an Auckland when they got to Wellington.
Speaker 3: So I don't think we should took it to care.
Speaker 3: But it's a good point you make. It's a different style.
Speaker 3: You know, we say that we've perhaps lost something from
Speaker 3: not playing South African teams in Super rugby and look,
Speaker 3: maybe the you know, the flip side of that of
Speaker 3: that is that they're less familiar with us now as well.
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, but as I say, it is only one
Speaker 18: test in and I'm still not sure which way it is.
Speaker 18: If it's just a lack of match fitness, and you
Speaker 18: know they'll get better obviously as the series goes on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's good to hear from you, mate, Thanks indeed.
Speaker 17: Tell us hi, Yeah, two points funy to use the boxing.
Speaker 25: And now after half time, after six rounds we were
Speaker 25: we were way behind on points. We should have been
Speaker 25: ten or fifteen points down, but that is used as
Speaker 25: a boxing analogy. It's the last few rounds that count,
Speaker 25: isn't it nine to twelve? And yet that when yeah,
Speaker 25: that's when we won the game. And I remember, finally
Speaker 25: there might be a long ago, but when I saw
Speaker 25: that the Hurricanes thrash the Chiefs in the separate final,
Speaker 25: I thought, if the All Backs can play like that,
Speaker 25: we can actually take out the box. And I think
Speaker 25: they showed that by choosing a lot of Hurricanes the
Speaker 25: next day in the All Backs blah blah and playing
Speaker 25: they played like the Hurricanes played that night, and I thought, yes, yes,
Speaker 25: you know.
Speaker 3: I thought yes as well, yes, great game.
Speaker 17: We'll never forget that game.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're supposed to either. You're supposed to
Speaker 3: hold onto games like that, Dallas and I will for
Speaker 3: a long time. Good to hear from you as always, mate.
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Speaker 3: again after one o'clock. Elliot Smith going to join us
Speaker 3: as well, our match commentator and rugby editor with his observations.
Speaker 3: A number of people have pointed out on text, including Paddy,
Speaker 3: they definitely miss see CALLISSI he'll add massively next week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It might have been one of those
Speaker 3: where if the game this morning had been a Rugby
Speaker 3: World Cup final, see Calisi might have played. They obviously
Speaker 3: decided not to play him, but now with three games
Speaker 3: to go, he is set to have a big influence.
Speaker 3: Luke said, I sat cuddled up with my three year
Speaker 3: old watching this morning. It was her first New Zealand
Speaker 3: verse South Africa test. I love the way we hung
Speaker 3: on in the first fifty odd minutes had shades of
Speaker 3: Wellington appairing, but the bench were awesome and Fabian flicked
Speaker 3: a switch when Josh Lord went off. There was a
Speaker 3: lot to like about it. Interesting to hear Jason Ryan
Speaker 3: say two that when South Africa started to get on
Speaker 3: top of them, he started to think, oh, here we
Speaker 3: go again, but making adjustments in real time. That is
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Speaker 3: joined by Andrew Webster. We haven't forgotten the Warriors? How
Speaker 3: can we forget the team at the top of the
Speaker 3: letter might only be for a few hours, but the
Speaker 3: fact remains there. They are want to talk Warriors. After two,
Speaker 3: Elliott Smith out of Johannesburg shortly more calls on the rugby.
Speaker 3: A couple of texts I didn't get to before, one
Speaker 3: which I'd like to read out. Finey geez what a game,
Speaker 3: says Gonna, especially the last twenty. To me, the All
Speaker 3: Blacks played well and played as a team. They've got
Speaker 3: a clear plan, trust in one another, and not panicking
Speaker 3: under pressure when the blow torch was applied, and it
Speaker 3: was certainly applied. I feel the Bock coach had a
Speaker 3: touch of arrogance by not introducing the bomb squad all
Speaker 3: at once instead of in dribs and drabs. He won't
Speaker 3: make that mistake twice simply in my eyes, he's gonna
Speaker 3: Renny out coach him my MVP. Though the referee stayed
Speaker 3: calm under pressure kept the game plowing, especially when challenged
Speaker 3: by the TMO. The weather is less than average outside,
Speaker 3: but it's a great day, good one. You're gonna hope
Speaker 3: you're staying warm and dry, Mateko Piney. I don't think
Speaker 3: anyone's mentioned our superb captain, says Trish. He earned the
Speaker 3: respect of the referee, didn't he. Did you notice the
Speaker 3: ref pat him on the back at the conclusion of
Speaker 3: the game when they shook hands. I haven't seen that before,
Speaker 3: Howling Gale here. It's good that everybody's adding their weather
Speaker 3: forecasts into their texts. Another true fantastic game. Jason, I
Speaker 3: happened to notice when the game finished. Our boys were
Speaker 3: so gracious, no high fives, pumps, just a huge proud
Speaker 3: moment among themselves, standing tall and proud. I'm sure they
Speaker 3: were all shattered. Job well done for daver Any. Thank you,
Speaker 3: Trish and BARRYE says Jason. I love that super Rugby
Speaker 3: can stand tall and say it's still producing class players,
Speaker 3: highly talented, tough players, not some second class competition like
Speaker 3: many South African and Northern Hemisphere people seem to think
Speaker 3: that it is without South Africa. And at very very
Speaker 3: good point, Barrie, thanks for all your texts. Nine two
Speaker 3: ninety two lines are open on eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 3: eighty Shopping.
Speaker 4: For the box, get shot by the old blacks.
Speaker 5: Creak, gather through the line, fabbing harve time all blacks,
Speaker 5: hat back and hit the lean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's certainly what's the turning point in the second half,
Speaker 3: the charge down try for Fabian Holland, who was absolutely
Speaker 3: immense in this game. That was the voice, of course
Speaker 3: of our match commentator and rugby editor Elliot Smith, who
Speaker 3: joins us now from Johannesburg. You've caught a lot of
Speaker 3: all blacks rugby. Elliott, You've watched a lot of All
Speaker 3: Blacks rugby. Where does that sit among the All Blacks
Speaker 3: performances that you have witnessed live?
Speaker 4: I think it has to rate right up to there.
Speaker 6: I was here two years ago and the All Blacks
Speaker 6: led by ten points heading into the closing stages against
Speaker 6: the Spring Box Pliny, and they completely blew it. But
Speaker 6: this was a different game entirely from that. They went
Speaker 6: up by ten, they consolidated it, they scored a closing
Speaker 6: try to win it. But you know that doesn't really
Speaker 6: reflect the eighty minutes that preceded it. You know, the
Speaker 6: All Blacks were down for the count at one point.
Speaker 6: It was the heavyweight boxing bout and the All Blacks
Speaker 6: were severely down on points. But they got off the
Speaker 6: canvas and found a way for around the fifty five
Speaker 6: minute mark when they got a crucial penalty. I'm looking
Speaker 6: at patch of grass right now where they got the penalty,
Speaker 6: scrumb penalty just in front of their own sticks, went
Speaker 6: downfield and turned the game around from that point, and
Speaker 6: not only did they get the win, they managed to
Speaker 6: put the string Box on the back foot again. At
Speaker 6: scrum time one with two men to or two minute
Speaker 6: heads of fifteen thirteen late in the game. So as
Speaker 6: far as All Blacks wins go over the last few years,
Speaker 6: I think it has to be right up there, a
Speaker 6: statement win of sorts. I think Pinney too, to open
Speaker 6: up the series against the old foe, and look, they
Speaker 6: returned to number one in the world. That's probably going
Speaker 6: to go a little bit back and forth. That won't
Speaker 6: matter to the All Blacks. What will matter is the
Speaker 6: kind statement they made tonight at Alice Park when they're
Speaker 6: under the kiwash, found a way and claimed the victory
Speaker 6: over South Africa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that said. Finding a way is the thing.
Speaker 3: We had Jason Ryan on the show earlier and he
Speaker 3: talked about the adjustments they made. They were under immense pressure.
Speaker 3: How important I know you've mentioned it there, but how
Speaker 3: important was that period early in the second half the
Speaker 3: All Blacks soaked up all that pressure and then got
Speaker 3: that scrum penalty under their own posts.
Speaker 6: Oh I thought it was immense. Yeah, this was, as
Speaker 6: I said before, without wanting to over use the boxing analogy,
Speaker 6: they were coppying jabs left, right and center and basically
Speaker 6: just waiting for the haymaker land from South Africa to
Speaker 6: send them down to the canvas permanently, and had they,
Speaker 6: the South Africans won a scrum penalty on that scrum
Speaker 6: with the All Blacks one the penalty in the end,
Speaker 6: it probably would have been yellow card for the All
Speaker 6: Blacks in South Africa probably would have scored from there.
Speaker 6: But the All Blacks finally get one, you know, from
Speaker 6: the South Africans, and they use it as a platform
Speaker 6: to get out of trouble and then get their way
Speaker 6: down the park and eventually score some points out of it.
Speaker 6: So I think you have to applaud the All Blacks
Speaker 6: for just staying in the fight. And you know, even
Speaker 6: when it looked like they were down and out, they
Speaker 6: managed to do so. So it showed an immense amount
Speaker 6: of hearts and I think that's what All Blacks fans,
Speaker 6: you know, obviously they'll take the result, but I think
Speaker 6: All Blacks fans can take a lot from this game
Speaker 6: going one, they found a way as we discussed before,
Speaker 6: but two, the immense heart from this team to not
Speaker 6: buckle under the pressure and get themselves in a position
Speaker 6: to win this Test match. I think it will go
Speaker 6: down as one of the All Blacks, you know, greatest
Speaker 6: wins of the last ten or so years, especially post
Speaker 6: the twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup. I know they've had
Speaker 6: some big ones along the way and some some tough
Speaker 6: losses too, But to drive you know, a statement and
Speaker 6: drive a stake through the heart of you know, the
Speaker 6: home of South African rugby, it doesn't get much better
Speaker 6: than that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'd put this rune up there in terms
Speaker 3: of all Black victories. Have the all Blacks uncovered the
Speaker 3: blueprint now to beat the spring box if you do
Speaker 3: match them physically, if you show resilience, if you take
Speaker 3: the odd punch. They don't have a heck of a
Speaker 3: lot else. Well that's right.
Speaker 6: I mean, they scored one try today and that was
Speaker 6: the powerful Estahzen who was quality for them right throughout
Speaker 6: the park, and so is Jasper Visa. But those were
Speaker 6: the two best attacking options, their number eight and their
Speaker 6: replacement hybrid flanker slash midfielder.
Speaker 4: And they didn't show a lot else.
Speaker 6: Sasha Feinnberg and Gon Mizoula was a wonderful rugby player,
Speaker 6: but he looked limited, I thought out there today. Grant Williams,
Speaker 6: the half back, tried to spark a few things, but
Speaker 6: couldn't just keep going. Didn't see a lot out of
Speaker 6: their midfield and choosing I'll be apart from kicking goals
Speaker 6: was pretty quiet as well. So I think your Blacks
Speaker 6: have found a way. Just what they can do next
Speaker 6: week I think will be interesting. And how the spring
Speaker 6: Box approach it. Do they put Pollard in its end?
Speaker 6: Does that change the way they play? But on the
Speaker 6: basis of what were seeing tonight party, the All Blacks
Speaker 6: certainly have a blueprint that they can be proud of.
Speaker 3: On a day like this that it's hard to single
Speaker 3: out any individuals that was well and truly a team performance.
Speaker 3: All twenty three played their part, But were there All
Speaker 3: Blacks players out there in particular who caught your right today?
Speaker 6: Well, I think Fabigan Hollands had an immense game. And look,
Speaker 6: he probably didn't get as many steals in the line
Speaker 6: out and the line out was a bit ropey that
Speaker 6: the strum was incredibly ropey, But you know that big
Speaker 6: moment where he was able to charge down the kick
Speaker 6: he tried all night, finally got one the timing right
Speaker 6: on that and not only charged it down but stayed
Speaker 6: waiting for the bounce knew that had the presence of
Speaker 6: mind to know where the ball was going to be
Speaker 6: and scored a try from it. So I think that's
Speaker 6: he stood out. I thought, Will Jordan as ever, doesn't
Speaker 6: really have a bad game, does he a couple of
Speaker 6: tries to boot and I think once again, Jordy Barrett
Speaker 6: is just doing immense work to direct the back line.
Speaker 6: And I don't mean to take away from what Ruben
Speaker 6: Love is doing, and he's playing exceptionally well, but Jordy
Speaker 6: Barrett is playing some outstanding rugby just to take some
Speaker 6: pressure off what Ruben Love is doing in the infancy
Speaker 6: of him playing ten at test level. I think Geordie
Speaker 6: stood up again tonight, So those would be three that
Speaker 6: that stood out for me. But you know, apart from
Speaker 6: Ethan degrew To, we've heard was a bit under the weather,
Speaker 6: wasn't really well, left the Captain's run, you know, early yesterday,
Speaker 6: and was basically in bed for most of the night
Speaker 6: last night with illness. So look he got buckled by
Speaker 6: Wilco lower. But but apart from that, it's hard to
Speaker 6: think of an All Black that you know, didn't enhance
Speaker 6: their credentials tonight.
Speaker 3: And being there, I mean I'm very interested in the
Speaker 3: in the the way the mood changed among the South
Speaker 3: African fans. I'm sure they were. They were buoyant and
Speaker 3: confident and and and eating their chest on the way
Speaker 3: to the ground and probably in the first half as well.
Speaker 3: Did you sense the air coming out of that South
Speaker 3: African crowd on the second half?
Speaker 6: Oh, you could feel it. You could absolutely feel it.
Speaker 6: Pine It was like a balloon being popped and it
Speaker 6: was just slowly withering to a death at the end.
Speaker 6: And look that the fans began to leave, you know,
Speaker 6: five or so minutes and maybe a bit more before
Speaker 6: full time.
Speaker 3: That had enough.
Speaker 6: And I think they're really disappointed because as were touched on,
Speaker 6: you know, the spring Box had their noses in front
Speaker 6: for a long part of that game and then disintegrated
Speaker 6: over the last half hour as the All Blacks took control.
Speaker 6: And I thought it was pretty special as well, you know,
Speaker 6: both seems to the lap of honor. But there was
Speaker 6: a patch of All Blacks fans from All Blacks Tours
Speaker 6: or you know, one of the equivalents that were here,
Speaker 6: made a lot of noise through the game, and the
Speaker 6: All blacksman over to you know, appreciate what they brought
Speaker 6: to the occasion today. So I thought that was a
Speaker 6: nice touch. And you know, the All Blacks fans that
Speaker 6: have traveled here, you know halfway across the world, we'll
Speaker 6: be leaving with smiles on their face, and you know
Speaker 6: they'll take those smiles. They'll be beaming all the way
Speaker 6: through to Cape Town when they land there. Ladder in
Speaker 6: the week.
Speaker 3: Money we'll spend for sure for those those hardy supporters.
Speaker 3: Great call, Elliott, thanks indeed for joining us, mate, just
Speaker 3: before you go, I guess and between Tests one and
Speaker 3: two there's the game against the Lions. How will the
Speaker 3: approach be from the All Blacks to that one?
Speaker 6: Well, don't for any said at the media conference that
Speaker 6: some players will have to back up and that's the
Speaker 6: nature of the numbers that they've got on the deck.
Speaker 6: But we know that Ethan de Group won't be there
Speaker 6: on Tuesday, we know josh Alall won't be there on Tuesday,
Speaker 6: and both highly unlikely to play a role next Saturday
Speaker 6: as well. Dave Rinie said they'd have to wait and
Speaker 6: see how the hia's went down sideline and all those
Speaker 6: checks sort of things. So I wouldn't suspect they'll be back,
Speaker 6: but they're going to have to piece together a team
Speaker 6: pretty quickly. As it stands, it's going to be named
Speaker 6: about four o'clock tomorrow afternoon local time. It's two am
Speaker 6: New Zealand. So they'll get back to the hotel tonight,
Speaker 6: they'll contemplate what they do and then some players that
Speaker 6: have put in big shifts tonight will have to come
Speaker 6: out and do it all again again at Alice Park
Speaker 6: against the Lines on Tuesday night, our time.
Speaker 3: Fantastic, great work, Elliott, Thanks for joining us on Weekend
Speaker 3: Sport this afternoon. Jef Funny, Thank you mate. That's Elliott Smith.
Speaker 3: Of course you'll know the voice our match commentator, rugby editor.
Speaker 3: Another superb call by him. Your call now one to eighteen.
Speaker 3: We'll keep talking rugby for a bit James mcconey before two,
Speaker 3: going to pivot away to the Warriors after two, when
Speaker 3: Andrew Webster joins us. But if you couldn't get through
Speaker 3: before one and you'd like to have yoursel on the
Speaker 3: All Blacks, please do so. Oh eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: ten eighty All opinions are welcome on this show. Jazz
Speaker 3: on email, Jason. Fantastic gamer Rugby. The All Blacks showed
Speaker 3: a resilience I haven't seen since the early days of
Speaker 3: Steve Henson's glory days as coach. We also saw clear
Speaker 3: evidence of the team adapting and changing the game plan
Speaker 3: and saying that I do think we caught a clunky
Speaker 3: box team blowing out some early season cobwebs. Jazz goes
Speaker 3: on to say credit to Matthew Carley for trying to
Speaker 3: he let the game flow. His communication was clear. He
Speaker 3: seemed to make calls evenly between the two teams, even
Speaker 3: with the TMO and touches trying the best to intervene
Speaker 3: with incorrect calls. Love seeing a ref over all the TOMO,
Speaker 3: but use him when it was required. Bring on the
Speaker 3: rest of the series. It is going to be a cracker.
Speaker 3: Thanks Jazz, great email, great points well made, just on
Speaker 3: the replacement players that have come in. If you hadn't
Speaker 3: caught up with this offer, took the Fussy and Jamie
Speaker 3: Hannah hopping on a plane today they are over in
Speaker 3: South Africa as injury cover for Ethan de Groot and
Speaker 3: Josh Lord. You would have seen those two players exit
Speaker 3: late in the first half after a head clash between
Speaker 3: the two of them, so Offer took on the fussy
Speaker 3: and Jamie Hannah, a very experienced prop forward and a
Speaker 3: rather inexperienced Lockford jumping on a plane to go over
Speaker 3: and join the party in South Africa today. They should
Speaker 3: be there Monday morning. I doubt they'll be available for Tuesday,
Speaker 3: but good to have them there as injury cover.
Speaker 24: Hello Mark Jay Piney. Well, no one died, but someone
Speaker 24: nearly got cut in half of a few people nearly did.
Speaker 24: In the first one hundred and twenty seconds, there was
Speaker 24: the most ferocious opening to a rugby dismatch I've seen
Speaker 24: in a very very long time. I was apprehensive for
Speaker 24: life and limb and limbs especially that they withstood that.
Speaker 24: The oldest slaught was just unbelievable. And look, I think
Speaker 24: the men stood up. They stood up in the face
Speaker 24: of it. Was just the physicality of that fifty That
Speaker 24: opening fifty five was something the likes of which will
Speaker 24: be written about and spoken about for probably a really
Speaker 24: long time and reference rightfully so. But they came through.
Speaker 24: And the two names that stand out for me outside
Speaker 24: of our eighty, outside of our eleven guys we cycled
Speaker 24: through through through the back was Jordy Barrett was tot
Speaker 24: was towering, but Quinti Pier made some sublime little moments
Speaker 24: when he needed to do his job, and he did
Speaker 24: his job absolutely on point in that fifty twenty kick.
Speaker 24: Basically they secured the game to get us down the
Speaker 24: air and wind out the clock was to me, he
Speaker 24: was just oh yeh gem after all that pressure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt the same yeah as the balls bouncing
Speaker 3: towards the line. I was going, come on, you can
Speaker 3: think that Quintu Pie You don't really you don't really
Speaker 3: think of him as a You don't think of his
Speaker 3: kicking game. When you think of Quintu Paie, you think
Speaker 3: of that robust defense, you know, his ability to bend
Speaker 3: and break a line. You don't normally think about his
Speaker 3: kicking game. I think because the camera went on him
Speaker 3: afterwards that I think he almost surprised himself a little
Speaker 3: bit as well.
Speaker 26: Well.
Speaker 24: He found the space and took it to the right
Speaker 24: hand side of his body to keep it away, but
Speaker 24: the oncoming you know, I had the ability to spread
Speaker 24: his body wide to shut down the angle that he had,
Speaker 24: and he got it through that sort of small pocket
Speaker 24: that he was going to get, got it low and
Speaker 24: it did everything it needed to do, but across the
Speaker 24: paddic look, the defensive screen that the All Blacks ran
Speaker 24: when the spring box came into our heart was risky
Speaker 24: as all. The fact that we did not let our
Speaker 24: smaller men anywherey of the middle. You see McKenzie out
Speaker 24: on one wing and there's Love on the other, and
Speaker 24: they were they were told, I should imagine you are
Speaker 24: not to be within twenty yards of any forward because
Speaker 24: they just would have been run over. They just absolutely
Speaker 24: physically would have been you know, they would have been
Speaker 24: a whekplink in the chain. It was risky to keep
Speaker 24: them out the back as wide as we did because
Speaker 24: we didn't really run a fullback, but we did it.
Speaker 24: We pulled it off and one Neil, let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's go make let's go mate. Indeed, obviously I tend
Speaker 3: to take notes as I watching a game just so
Speaker 3: I remember stuff, and I've got written down here. Well,
Speaker 3: the first line I've got here is Hakka silence. And
Speaker 3: then once the game started early All Blacks eras South
Speaker 3: Africa very physical, That's how it felt in the first
Speaker 3: two or three minutes of the game. And then they
Speaker 3: got a penalty and went three in nol Up. They
Speaker 3: came out firing, they did, and I'm not sure that
Speaker 3: the All Blacks were caught on the hop necessarily, but
Speaker 3: it was just so brutal the way South Africa started
Speaker 3: the game. But to give the All Blacks immense credit,
Speaker 3: they adjusted quickly and then Will Jordan scored the try
Speaker 3: and they went ahead. There's Richie over there, asks for Roscoe. Yep,
Speaker 3: Richie Molong is there and will no doubt play on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Be interesting to see how Richie goes back in the
Speaker 3: black jersey. Not going to make the Test side next week.
Speaker 3: I think apart from injury and force changes, there won't
Speaker 3: be any changes to the Test side for next week.
Speaker 3: Why would you change that team? But yes, Richie is
Speaker 3: there and he'll be in a black jersey on Wednesday
Speaker 3: morning when the All Blacks take on the Lions. They're
Speaker 3: still in Johannesburg. Nate, Hello mate, Hey Nate here, How
Speaker 3: are you very good? Thanks?
Speaker 4: Nate?
Speaker 3: Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 16: Absolutely love that. My son and I we go up
Speaker 16: and watched it at three am prior to the to
Speaker 16: the match. We've got a bit of a of a
Speaker 16: sports family chat and so oh oh oh they felt
Speaker 16: that the the Springboks starting sifting was better than your backs.
Speaker 16: I said, well, that may be, I said, but I
Speaker 16: feel that we've got the better bench. And that was
Speaker 16: absolutely the case, audn't it.
Speaker 3: You bang on, You know, you've you've absolutely nailed where
Speaker 3: the you know, where the strength of the All Blacks
Speaker 3: was this morning. You look at what Bower and Null
Speaker 3: in particular Nate did off the bench and the impact
Speaker 3: that they had.
Speaker 16: You know, as soon as they came on, the issues
Speaker 16: that we're having with the scrums had just disappeared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, no, it's a good point, Nate.
Speaker 3: It's a good point. I think I don't think Ethan
Speaker 3: de Greet was right.
Speaker 7: You know that he was.
Speaker 3: He was unwell and I think he'd done his knee.
Speaker 3: He wasn't right, and I mean lone backs. It was
Speaker 3: interesting because he's normally a very good scrummager and but
Speaker 3: I think it was mainly the pressure going on Ethan
Speaker 3: to Groot's site. Not that I'm a scrum doctor, of course,
Speaker 3: but you're right when nule And and Bauer turned up
Speaker 3: and a suffer more things really solidified in that front row.
Speaker 16: Oh absolutely. And one thing that Holland's first try. What
Speaker 16: a way to score your first try, right.
Speaker 3: The charge down he must have. It must feel so
Speaker 3: good when you come through and you charge it down
Speaker 3: and then you see because it can go anywhere, can't it?
Speaker 3: And then you see it bounce up and you think, man,
Speaker 3: I can get that and dotting down. There was a
Speaker 3: turning point. There was the turning point. Did what was
Speaker 3: the score when he when he got that got that
Speaker 3: charge down? That was when the All Blacks went ahead
Speaker 3: nineteen sixteen. It was the turning point of the game.
Speaker 3: Glad you enjoyed it. Nate, go back anytime, mate. Oh
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty our number a shaiyay.
Speaker 14: Bunny, very quick things, the size, intimidation and in chensely
Speaker 14: of the box it saved. But I do think the
Speaker 14: way we buy it seem because if you look at
Speaker 14: the physical bulk of guys in the midfield and across.
Speaker 27: The across the park, you know, ox.
Speaker 14: Inside, massive men. And we played a quick game as
Speaker 14: beast as we could, tired them and the guy who
Speaker 14: really stood out for me, Jordy Barrett, his tack playing
Speaker 14: through the center of midfield. Time and again it was
Speaker 14: some against some Lonster and he took him down even
Speaker 14: the time. It was ridiculously good defense of display.
Speaker 3: And as they say, sorry, he was good any he
Speaker 3: was good anyway. Jordy was a good player before he
Speaker 3: went to Ireland for that, for that sabbatical with Leinster.
Speaker 3: I think he has come back just to I mean,
Speaker 3: he's just a brilliant player now, Jordy Barrett on both
Speaker 3: sides of the ball, but defensively, as you say, I
Speaker 3: mean he made more tackles in that game than anybody else.
Speaker 3: Fifteen tackles he made, and some of them were very
Speaker 3: important ones. He stopped that tray on the line from
Speaker 3: Malcolm Marx. He held up Visa a couple of times.
Speaker 3: He is such an important cog in the All Blacks
Speaker 3: machine now, Jordi's.
Speaker 14: That helped stop the bogs on and then put us
Speaker 14: on that foot that might have been.
Speaker 3: Yep, bang on Ash. Your phone is just starting to fail,
Speaker 3: youre mate, but we got your points. Thanks for calling
Speaker 3: in one twenty seven oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 3: He still got a few more minutes heaps of text
Speaker 3: to get through. I can get to some of those,
Speaker 3: but if you want to make a final point or
Speaker 3: two about the All Blacks from here. As I say
Speaker 3: they go to Johannesburg, they're already in Johannesburg. They don't
Speaker 3: have to go anywhere. I pretend they even stay in
Speaker 3: the same hotel. So they play the Lions Wednesday morning,
Speaker 3: New Zealand time, and then it's to Cape Town next
Speaker 3: Sunday for the third Test, and then back up to Johannesburg,
Speaker 3: but to Soccer City that's the stadium at Soweto that
Speaker 3: was built for the Football World Cup in twenty ten.
Speaker 3: That's the third Test, and then across to Baltimore. One
Speaker 3: of the great things about the series is exactly that
Speaker 3: that it's a serien. The narrative of this series is
Speaker 3: going to be built over four matches, not just one
Speaker 3: great game this morning and brilliant discussion about it. But
Speaker 3: it forms part of what will become an ongoing narrative.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Cape Town next Sunday? Can you possibly
Speaker 3: conceive how desperate South Africa are going to be biggest
Speaker 3: test match for Rassi Erasmus in a long long time,
Speaker 3: a long long time. One twenty eight back in a
Speaker 3: second weekend sport.
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Speaker 4: And B four meters short, all backs one and quick
Speaker 4: for right. God, lo't take it, sad over try, We'll
Speaker 4: take it. Since first Test Ryan five years.
Speaker 3: First Test try in five years. Luke Jacobson, he's made
Speaker 3: that number seven jersey his own, hasn't he. I've said
Speaker 3: a few times on the show if we'd all sort
Speaker 3: of had a poll during Super Rugby as to what
Speaker 3: the all black side might look like, and if I'd said, here, okay,
Speaker 3: you tell me who was going to play in the
Speaker 3: number seven jersey in all three matches in July in
Speaker 3: the Nation's Championship and will start in Johannesburg against South
Speaker 3: Africa in the First Test as well, I would say
Speaker 3: that very few of you would have said Luke Jacobson.
Speaker 3: But you have to give it to Dave Rennie and
Speaker 3: to Luke Jacobson. He has been terrific, really really good,
Speaker 3: hasn't he? A very different number seven from some of
Speaker 3: the players who have worn that jersey in recent times,
Speaker 3: but absolutely understands clearly Dave Rennie's requirements and has repaid
Speaker 3: the faith fletchernel off the bench and a big part
Speaker 3: of the way that the All Blacks problems solved in
Speaker 3: terms of getting their scrum right. Pleach and you all
Speaker 3: spoke to the to the KEYWI media after the game
Speaker 3: and he was asked about how the scrum turned things around,
Speaker 3: particularly after halftime.
Speaker 28: Yeah, like you said, I think it was a night
Speaker 28: of solutions. Really proud on how we were able to
Speaker 28: problem solve out there. We know our scrum wasn't at
Speaker 28: its best one hundred percent of that game, but yeah,
Speaker 28: really proud of the boys that came on. They were
Speaker 28: problem solved in some really high pressure moments. And Yeah,
Speaker 28: to really rely on our scrum in that last fifteen
Speaker 28: minutes was really refelling.
Speaker 29: The period in the mid fifteen minutes mark when they
Speaker 29: took all those scrums and won all those pedal reason
Speaker 29: keep there yet, I mean, what did that take to
Speaker 29: survive that unscanned that.
Speaker 28: I think it took a lot of a trust that
Speaker 28: we've built over the last well this year so far
Speaker 28: on the few games we've had, probably showed the connection
Speaker 28: of the group to come out of those high pressure moments,
Speaker 28: and yeah, a lot of buying from the pack that
Speaker 28: we've been working on over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 28: Obviously we know the challenge scrum time that the spring
Speaker 28: Box bring and like I said, we didn't get it
Speaker 28: right one hundred percent of the time, but really happy
Speaker 28: with how the buy in has been. It's about to
Speaker 28: execute in those high prision moments.
Speaker 8: Where did technical adjustments or was it all just dictate stuff?
Speaker 28: That is definitely technical adjustments, but yeah, it was a
Speaker 28: bit of dig deep stuff. Yeah, I think we're spoken
Speaker 28: a lot around our set piece and where we want
Speaker 28: to get it to.
Speaker 8: It was awesome to test it against the world's best tonight, but.
Speaker 28: We know that we've got to be a lot better
Speaker 28: and what's going to come next week is going to be.
Speaker 8: Even even more so.
Speaker 30: Yeah, clature, that's gorun fifty five minutes when the when
Speaker 30: the penalty is going to be remembered in history is
Speaker 30: the turning point and that gain did you did you
Speaker 30: feel that at the time when you won the penalty,
Speaker 30: did you sense up was going to be the moment
Speaker 30: to change the momentum?
Speaker 8: I think at the moment where it's quite hard.
Speaker 28: To know what's a big moment or what's not. But
Speaker 28: it gave us a lot of energy. We were pretty
Speaker 28: under it out there at that stage. Leagues were gone.
Speaker 28: But we're really proud that moments like that was able
Speaker 28: to give us energy to take into other areas of
Speaker 28: our game.
Speaker 8: The back's got a lot of energy from it.
Speaker 22: Gave them.
Speaker 28: Trust in our set piece to be able to call
Speaker 28: those scrums in the last moments of the game. So
Speaker 28: but like I said, this sundy bigger coming next week
Speaker 28: to spring Bok Pack and we're really proud of it.
Speaker 28: But we know we've got to be a lot better
Speaker 28: because I wasn't up.
Speaker 3: To standard for better that game is Fletcher Nell, speaking
Speaker 3: to the New Zealand media after the game. I've just
Speaker 3: got three texts here which all basically say the same
Speaker 3: thing from three different people. Jason take note. Changing took
Speaker 3: p or Viti to lock at the same time as
Speaker 3: the new front row stabilized them great wind, says David Scrumb.
Speaker 3: Also improved when moved to locks. There's this one. Don't
Speaker 3: forget about the change at lock and blindside flankap in
Speaker 3: respect of the scrum improvement, says Michael Basically at the
Speaker 3: same time as the prop change. It's an interesting point.
Speaker 3: They clearly like Tupaul vi Ey in that six jersey,
Speaker 3: and when Josh Lord had to go off today that
Speaker 3: was obviously earlier than they would have made the change.
Speaker 3: But the tactic or the strategy or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, is probably two Paul Viti starts at
Speaker 3: six and then in the second half, as circumstances dictate,
Speaker 3: he moves into the second row with one of the
Speaker 3: locks going off, and certainly that's the strategy because there's
Speaker 3: no lock cover on the bench. What that does do
Speaker 3: is it means that one or two of Viy and
Speaker 3: the two locks have to play eighty minutes. And when
Speaker 3: Laud went off, Fabian Holland knew it to play eighty minutes,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure that he relished it. It looked like
Speaker 3: he did, didn't it. A few more texts to get
Speaker 3: through here. As we come towards the end of our
Speaker 3: all black chat for today, Jason my player of the match,
Speaker 3: no bias, says Tony was Jordi Barrett Ain's fan. Tony
Speaker 3: Aiden says, I'm proud of that performance and Wellington we
Speaker 3: were lost and gave up against the mass and the
Speaker 3: might of South Africa this morning. We absorbed and adapted,
Speaker 3: showed resilience and intelligence and outlasted them. I'm excited to
Speaker 3: test too, as it's easier for the All Blacks to
Speaker 3: add accuracy to our emerging game plan then force South
Speaker 3: Africa to add fitness to their bulk. Thanks Aidan Piney sensational.
Speaker 3: What a day to be a key we, says Jes
Speaker 3: Up the Wise, the Abs and the Black Ferns Man.
Speaker 3: The ab soaked up some pressure today and took their
Speaker 3: chances when they came. Fabian Holland my man of the match,
Speaker 3: Thanks Jesse. Jason. Even chat GPT got the score massively wrong,
Speaker 3: says Tony. I have faith in humanity again, and all
Speaker 3: respect to Rennie and the squad over in South Africa.
Speaker 3: How good were a Sapfua Moor and George Bauer. No
Speaker 3: need to overanalyze this when apart from mentioning Rennie's superpower
Speaker 3: in dismantling South African sides from super rugby to their
Speaker 3: national team. Let's sign them along to to the next
Speaker 3: World Cup after this one, Thanks Tony. Vicky, says Jason.
Speaker 3: Just watching Bill Blacks replay now, so I'm not listening. Sorry,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to give a mess of shout out
Speaker 3: to the referee. How refreshing that he backed his own decisions,
Speaker 3: wasn't swayed by the var never a high tackle from Artie.
Speaker 3: Well done that common sense prevailed. Couldn't agree more. Vicky
Speaker 3: couldn't agree more. Damien McKenzie spoke to the New Zealand
Speaker 3: media afterwards as well.
Speaker 6: Damien, I center call a couple of years ago he
Speaker 6: came here and blew a ten point leads. What does
Speaker 6: it mean to to come away with a victory at
Speaker 6: Alis Park?
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's very rewarding. You know, we've been planning for
Speaker 22: this tour for a long time. In this first test,
Speaker 22: obviously it Verehria leading the way world's best at the moment,
Speaker 22: so to come away with a great one is extremely satisfying.
Speaker 22: So we're extremely proud of that effort. We know it's
Speaker 22: just to start for us, so we need to take
Speaker 22: out of it. But right now we have to enjoy
Speaker 22: the windows.
Speaker 16: What did it take?
Speaker 6: It felt like maybe you're out for the counter, but
Speaker 6: you just kept withstanding those punchers.
Speaker 22: Yeah, wee a lot of punches in that first half
Speaker 22: and to go down losing by one point after the
Speaker 22: first half.
Speaker 3: It was pretty good.
Speaker 22: To be fair, they threw a lot at us, and
Speaker 22: now we knew the challenge that they they posed against us,
Speaker 22: and they threw everything at us. And to be able to, yeah,
Speaker 22: be one point down at the half was pretty good
Speaker 22: for us. And then when you when we get our
Speaker 22: opportunities and we got a few of those in the
Speaker 22: second half which been able to an hour a couple
Speaker 22: a couple of those were great and to put ourselves
Speaker 22: with a decent lead there was satisfying.
Speaker 6: Made a great breakdown field. Did you begin to think
Speaker 6: you were finding gaps as a team around the park?
Speaker 22: Yeah, have an outstanding kicking game, and they put us
Speaker 22: under a bit appreciator tonight and then a couple of
Speaker 22: times we were able to defuse that. We sort of
Speaker 22: were able to create a couple opportunities and sneak through
Speaker 22: a few holes and he was able to It was
Speaker 22: nice to be able to just ride that momentum and
Speaker 22: try and stay on top. And especially against the FAW,
Speaker 22: you give them any snaff for an inch, they'll take it.
Speaker 22: So yeah, very pleasing. How we came out in that
Speaker 22: second half and round play a bit more rugby.
Speaker 29: Darmian, it's not your area of expertise, but what did
Speaker 29: you How proud were you of I guess of the
Speaker 29: guys in the scrum and to think of the pressure
Speaker 29: they are under and the constant pressure and then they
Speaker 29: found a way out right, I mean, how amazing to
Speaker 29: watch that from deeper.
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's great to watch. I don't know too much
Speaker 22: of the technical stuff about the scrums, but obviously to ACA,
Speaker 22: I've got an outstanding set piece and for our boys
Speaker 22: and our bench to come on and really locked down
Speaker 22: the scrum and and our line out time was Oh,
Speaker 22: it's always pleasing as a as a back to be
Speaker 22: able to see that and have tsair penalty advantage or
Speaker 22: a free play at it.
Speaker 2: And obviously South.
Speaker 22: Africa pride themselves on this set piece. To be able
Speaker 22: to match them tonight and get some reward deal was
Speaker 22: extremely pleasing from a backsported you anyway, how big.
Speaker 8: To draw first blood in this series.
Speaker 22: And you play from in front as it were, Oh,
Speaker 22: it's it's extremely satisfying. But we obviously now it's it's
Speaker 22: three more tests, so we've got to keep our feet
Speaker 22: firmly on the ground. Obviously, test rugby is not easy
Speaker 22: and to win over here ours parks as as no
Speaker 22: mean feat. So first of all we have to obviously
Speaker 22: enjoy that, but we have to move on pretty quickly.
Speaker 22: We've got another game on Tuesday against the Lines and
Speaker 22: then the Test down in Cape Town, and so we've
Speaker 22: got two got a team to just sit back and
Speaker 22: I'll throw everything at us next week. So yeah, we'll
Speaker 22: enjoy tonight, but obviously really important we've got to move
Speaker 22: on pretty quickly and I'll.
Speaker 2: Get around the boys playing on Tuesday and in the
Speaker 2: next test.
Speaker 30: I'm don't want to get too bogged down and the technicalities,
Speaker 30: but the high ball battle, they started to retrieve almost
Speaker 30: everything that we're putting up for a period there.
Speaker 3: What do you think was happening at that point.
Speaker 22: Yeah, they've got a great kicking game and we probably
Speaker 22: didn't diffuse as many as we would have liked. I
Speaker 22: guess now with a lot of the time ball getting
Speaker 22: bettered around, it's about jumping on the scraps as quickly
Speaker 22: as possible. We probably well, times we're okay, and then
Speaker 22: times we probably need to improve a little bit in
Speaker 22: the following up in the series, but it's obviously a
Speaker 22: real strength of these They got guys who are great
Speaker 22: in the air, and.
Speaker 2: We'll have a look at it and try and improve
Speaker 2: on it throughout the next week.
Speaker 3: There you go. Damien mckein's with his thoughts with the
Speaker 3: New Zealand media after the game. Don't forget, Patty says,
Speaker 3: don't forget the Magpies. Boney Love on the show. On
Speaker 3: the slow drive back to Hawks Bay post Beervanner beer Vanna. Yes,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of beer enthusiasts shall we
Speaker 3: call them? And Wellington across the weekend for Beavanner at
Speaker 3: Henry Stadium. Drive safe, Patty, I presume you're not actually
Speaker 3: driving them, mate, if you're texting, so good to hear
Speaker 3: from you. And I won't forget the Magpies. I thought, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what are they fall from?
Speaker 7: Four?
Speaker 3: Four bonus point ones and the n PC. I've been
Speaker 3: been reminded, been reminded by a few people. Piney hardly
Speaker 3: mentioned we scored five tries at Ellis Park. They got one.
Speaker 3: That is actually has been overlooked a little bit, hasn't it.
Speaker 3: The fact that it's our highest ever score at Ellis
Speaker 3: Park and five tries to one. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 3: to like, a lot to like. Thank you for all
Speaker 3: of your calls and correspondence on the All Blacks Test
Speaker 3: two Cape Town Sunday morning. Of course the game against
Speaker 3: the Lions Wednesday morning. We'll take a break, come back
Speaker 3: and James mcconey will join us in a regular Sunday slot.
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Speaker 3: Well, that blug just said, the biggest names in sport
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Speaker 3: welcome home.
Speaker 27: Oh thanks poney, You're great to be home. Dave Dobbin
Speaker 27: didn't get out and sing to me, but it's pretty
Speaker 27: nice being about being back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, welcome back, welcome back. I would have come
Speaker 3: and greeted you with great emotion had I known the
Speaker 3: arrival time of your flight. But it's good to have
Speaker 3: you on the radio. Anyway. What did you think about
Speaker 3: the All Blacks this morning?
Speaker 21: Mate?
Speaker 3: You would have enjoyed that.
Speaker 22: Ah.
Speaker 10: What a game, what a game?
Speaker 11: What a game? What a many good game?
Speaker 27: Maddy madey good?
Speaker 25: Wow?
Speaker 27: Yeah, that's son Pepper there. I actually think it was outstanding,
Speaker 27: and for many reasons, including the fact that test have
Speaker 27: always been about key moments and standing up and winning
Speaker 27: those moments, and that's exactly what the All Blacks did.
Speaker 27: Because the spring box, they'll feel like they blew it.
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I think they had more than enough
Speaker 3: dominance in the first forty minutes, probably the first fifty minutes.
Speaker 3: They you know, we've been using the boxing analogy all afternoon,
Speaker 3: but you know, they were ahead on points. They were
Speaker 3: throwing punches left, right and center. All Blacks absorbed them
Speaker 3: and then and then sort of eased away. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think sat never will probably look at it as
Speaker 3: an opportunity miss for sure, totally, And I.
Speaker 27: Mean Rassi didn't see many variations. They had bombs and
Speaker 27: more bombs and big bodies running straight into the teeth
Speaker 27: of the All Blacks defense, which, apart from Jasper Visa
Speaker 27: getting through a couple of times, I thought the All
Speaker 27: Blacks handled really well. I couldn't see Tony Brown's influence
Speaker 27: as he listening to Tony you know, where was that
Speaker 27: sort of the innovation? I guess I saw Chess and
Speaker 27: Colby put in a crazy sidestep in the first half
Speaker 27: where the first offended didn't get a hand on him.
Speaker 27: But I can't remember him getting the ball for the
Speaker 27: rest of the game, So I mean that's on them.
Speaker 27: But let's talk about I'm sure, as I've heard on
Speaker 27: your show, the plaudits the flowers to the front row
Speaker 27: bench of the All Blacks. How good were they?
Speaker 3: Yep, so good? George Bauer, Fletcher yule Esop more. Yeah,
Speaker 3: terrific game changing And a lot of people pointed out
Speaker 3: as well that it also had the necessitated the change
Speaker 3: with Toulv coming back into the second row. I know
Speaker 3: they like him at six, but he's a tremendous lock
Speaker 3: forward as well, isn't he Toulve?
Speaker 13: He is?
Speaker 27: I mean, look, I do like that the Bauer al
Speaker 27: Mua Newle combo. You know, the irresistible force against the
Speaker 27: immovable objects, both of all similar heights and with they
Speaker 27: just stood up big time. And you know, the turnaround
Speaker 27: in the front of the front row of the scrum
Speaker 27: was significant. But how about our other sort of engine room,
Speaker 27: the Jordi Barrett, Quinty Pyre and midfield in particular Jordy
Speaker 27: Barrett five ts in the game. And also the hand
Speaker 27: of Jordy, or as I call it, the hand of
Speaker 27: Jorde slaping the ball away from Malcolm Marx. That was
Speaker 27: pivotal too.
Speaker 3: It was it was a lot of really key moments
Speaker 3: that Jordy Barrett seems to find himself in the middle of.
Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot of plaudits for for a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of players. Hey did you go to
Speaker 3: the the Auckland one A first fifteen final yesterday?
Speaker 27: Yes? I did, Pony. I went and saw west Slap
Speaker 27: play Rose Mindy. What a game that was absolute Yeah, yah,
Speaker 27: ding dong of a battle twenty six all at halftime,
Speaker 27: finished up forty five forty three. But I mean, I
Speaker 27: don't think it was there was loose defense. It was
Speaker 27: just incredible attack and just strong world kind of like
Speaker 27: belief rarely, so you know, they played with the enterprise.
Speaker 27: It was really cool. West Slape got up in the end.
Speaker 27: Jeff Wilson's son, Harper Wilson, He's got himself a title.
Speaker 27: But there was there's a real star player in there
Speaker 27: called Matt Fleming who plays at center for Westlake. Remember
Speaker 27: the name, as I often say on the show, Piney,
Speaker 27: Matt Fleming he's been chased by the NRL by New
Speaker 27: Zealand Seven's by whoever plays contact sport. And then there's
Speaker 27: a few players from Rosmoney as well, so I think
Speaker 27: we'll probably see in the pro ranks. But a really
Speaker 27: good atmosphere at North Harbor Stadium.
Speaker 3: Loved it, good stuff. Is he any relation to Steven Fleming?
Speaker 27: Well, he's dashing, but in a different way. You Yeah,
Speaker 27: he can run. I don't know if he is. Actually,
Speaker 27: I'm not sure I've gone through the whole Fleming lineage.
Speaker 27: But it's a good question, Piney, and I'm sorry I
Speaker 27: haven't got an answer for you.
Speaker 4: It was a tear.
Speaker 3: It was a tear. I will throw you under the
Speaker 3: bus question.
Speaker 4: How would how would you know?
Speaker 3: How would you know if a guy with a pretty
Speaker 3: common surname is related to another guy with the same
Speaker 3: surname exactly?
Speaker 27: Yeah, that's fine, I'll wear it. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 27: It was really good. I think there's some pretty cool
Speaker 27: Schoolboy finals happening at the moment, So you know, if
Speaker 27: you like your grassroots rugby, I think it's fantastic. I
Speaker 27: look at the pace and the skill in the game.
Speaker 27: It's just it's the game's in pretty good health when
Speaker 27: you look at these first fifteens play.
Speaker 3: And to tell you what the women's gamers too, because
Speaker 3: I watched that O'Reilly Cup game yesterday between our Black
Speaker 3: Ferns in Australia and Australia. Had been making all sorts
Speaker 3: of noises during the week that this was going to
Speaker 3: be the game. They turned up and fronted up and
Speaker 3: turned the tables.
Speaker 15: No chance.
Speaker 3: Were we just monstered them, didn't we?
Speaker 27: Yeah, we did, and we did it with several teenagers playing,
Speaker 27: including Anti Satici Wallaceti's younger sister coming off the bench
Speaker 27: and scoring a try. She's a lock loose forward, so
Speaker 27: look out for her. There were obviously Braxton, Sorens and McGee.
Speaker 27: She's come from sevens and now she's still only nineteen,
Speaker 27: kicking goals for the team, scoring tries. But the one
Speaker 27: thing I did want to focus on was he demand.
Speaker 27: I think we're seeing one of the great leaders in
Speaker 27: New Zealand sport. They're one of the great captains. And
Speaker 27: when you go back to the traditions of Fara Parma
Speaker 27: and the farmer Farmer Sili and even like Buckshelf of
Speaker 27: Richard mccauw, you throw in these great captains. She's got
Speaker 27: all the elements there. And I think Wayne Smith once
Speaker 27: told me that when he went up on at halftime
Speaker 27: to tell the team that they've been doing everything wrong,
Speaker 27: it was too late. Apparently he got there and Luhy
Speaker 27: was reading the Riot Act and said exactly what he
Speaker 27: wanted to say. So he turned around and went back
Speaker 27: to the off the field. He just be taken care of.
Speaker 3: It's all under control already. Yeah, she seems to have
Speaker 3: a real aura about her, a real calmness just to
Speaker 3: tranquility about her, both on the field and when your
Speaker 3: hair are doing media situations. She's a pretty impressive human,
Speaker 3: she really is.
Speaker 27: Yeah. I did watch the wires last night against South.
Speaker 27: There was another impressive win against the pretty star studded
Speaker 27: South team. You never missing Latreal Mitchell, but hey, a
Speaker 27: rookie halves pairing or a new halves pairing of Hanson
Speaker 27: and Channell House to Vita and the Chanel number six
Speaker 27: going up to now Chanel number seven. Things look to
Speaker 27: be in pretty good order, except a bit sad. As
Speaker 27: you reported Dylan may Tenney's lesliek with a broken collarbone.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, well, let's hope that it's not season ending. Hey, James,
Speaker 3: great to have your home. Look if you if you could,
Speaker 3: if you could brush up on New Zealand, great New
Speaker 3: Zealand sporting families for the next time we chat. That'd
Speaker 3: be great.
Speaker 27: Oh yeah, and more more salt and pepper. Maybe you
Speaker 27: should have started with push it in honor of our
Speaker 27: reserve front road.
Speaker 4: Damn it.
Speaker 27: That was another opportunity mess pioneer.
Speaker 3: It was just sitting there for you, James, sitting there
Speaker 3: for you. I know you'll, I know you'll take the
Speaker 3: learnings from this chat. Good to see you, mate, seven
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Speaker 3: To two a part of Jim in the North Shore
Speaker 3: comp not the one A Kelston won that last week. Yes,
Speaker 3: you're right, it was the North Harbor one a competition
Speaker 3: West Lake rosmony that James and I were talking about.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the correction. After two, Andrew Webster is on
Speaker 3: the show. The Warriors as we sit here right now
Speaker 3: are top of the NRL table. That could change in
Speaker 3: a couple of hours when the Roosters play the Tigers,
Speaker 3: but for right now, with two games to go. The
Speaker 3: Warriors are top, that top two spot, so crucial, so
Speaker 3: important is there? Can they reach out and take it?
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Speaker 3: Sport the two O seven. Thanks for all your calls
Speaker 3: and correspondence on the All Blacks. We look forward to
Speaker 3: doing it all again next Sunday. Let's hope it says
Speaker 3: emphatic our performance in Cape Town. Anyway, we'll leave that
Speaker 3: to one side for now because we have to move
Speaker 3: on the top of the table. Warriors two games to go,
Speaker 3: sitting top at the moment. The Roosters can go past
Speaker 3: them in a few hours if they beat the Tigers,
Speaker 3: and let's face it, they probably will, given the tigers
Speaker 3: recent form and the Rooster's recent form. But that top
Speaker 3: two spot is sitting there, just sitting there, waiting to
Speaker 3: be grabbed. Andrew Webster is along shortly. We're also going
Speaker 3: to talk some Grand Prix. Liam Lawson is back in
Speaker 3: the Red Bull car for the Dutch Grand Prix. He
Speaker 3: has qualified eighth for tomorrow morning's race. This, of course
Speaker 3: is his first drive in that car since he was
Speaker 3: unceremoniously demoted to the Racing Ball after just two races
Speaker 3: last year back in the Red Bull. How did he
Speaker 3: look in qualifying? Alex Powell out of the New Zealand
Speaker 3: herold going to talk to us about that. We'll take
Speaker 3: some calls on the Warriors too, incidentally, and I'll give
Speaker 3: you the equation around how they can finish second and
Speaker 3: also what it might mean in terms of home games
Speaker 3: over the next month or so, because there's a scenario
Speaker 3: under which the Warriors will play four times at home
Speaker 3: in the next five weekends. Anyway we can get to that.
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Speaker 3: before we get to anything else, as we always do
Speaker 3: about this time on weekends, sport, it's time to catch
Speaker 3: you up. There's been a lot of sport happening. You
Speaker 3: might have missed some of it, so in case you
Speaker 3: missed it, and women's rugby, the Lorrie O'Reilly Cup is
Speaker 3: staying firmly here in New Zealand takes it out gives
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Speaker 3: absolutely destroying Australia sixty six nineteen yesterday at Go Media
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Speaker 3: a little show and.
Speaker 31: Going a nice sport over the top waiting them up
Speaker 31: now there chants so cort runners coming on the inside.
Speaker 5: I won't need any of them, Tom, I for love
Speaker 5: there sharing the love.
Speaker 4: At the end of the game and one more player.
Speaker 3: To winsertain forty six points to seventeen the final score. Meantime,
Speaker 3: the bridge now belongs to North Harbor.
Speaker 31: Tete the advantages nor for North Harbor Hell added to
Speaker 31: the decks now Barra checks and across Leo time can't
Speaker 31: stop down stats.
Speaker 26: Oh come on, that is just ridiculously good.
Speaker 3: Rather try Harbor twenty seven, Aufland nineteen and Bay of
Speaker 3: plenty held off the neck east.
Speaker 21: Straight through the Federal guys ne cor broughtend.
Speaker 26: Great awareness.
Speaker 4: And it is they did in the first half with
Speaker 4: the Man of the Bend.
Speaker 3: The Steamer is struck twenty eight twenty four. The final
Speaker 3: score there to the NRL. The mainly Sea Eagles tipped up.
Speaker 3: The Knights walk back towards center field. All the kawak's on.
Speaker 4: The word of God give you a massive hole.
Speaker 31: The Newcastle Knight's defense breaks turn again.
Speaker 4: Garry has a Saturday afternoon strolled.
Speaker 3: To the line at forty four twenty four the final
Speaker 3: score and the Bulldogs dismantled the dragon out of the
Speaker 3: right bick Albanies and then a little outside.
Speaker 5: It's I got about the tax presser stopper, stopper.
Speaker 4: It's a turn at tracing that is just electable touchs.
Speaker 3: Forty four to fourteen the final score there to the
Speaker 3: Premier League's opening weekends, a win for newly promoted Ipswich.
Speaker 32: Too much goldmanth action in this second period. Next switch
Speaker 32: looking to change that. Now here's Clark, Jack Clark looking
Speaker 32: for the Anny day.
Speaker 4: You want the warning for it. Switch the Jets is four.
Speaker 3: O'clock two unt Ipswich over Sunderland and Hull against all expectations,
Speaker 3: tipping up Manchester United. We've got good presence in these situations.
Speaker 4: Whole All that's DAGs.
Speaker 2: Time.
Speaker 4: That's just noted to be humbled by the humber An
Speaker 4: extraordinary style.
Speaker 3: For the newly promoted site toil the whole city of
Speaker 3: the final score. But it wasn't quite the biggest upset
Speaker 3: of the weekend. That belongs to Buller in the Heartland Championship,
Speaker 3: who overcame their twenty six dollars underdog tag to beat
Speaker 3: North Otago twenty two to twenty one.
Speaker 2: Four gets dropped.
Speaker 3: I'm moving that far aside.
Speaker 4: Here's that oh halfway last night and that's the game.
Speaker 4: That's the game.
Speaker 8: It's all over.
Speaker 32: Over well, congratulations Francis mining Buller from.
Speaker 2: Brilliant victories to battling selections.
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Speaker 3: Twelve minutes past two. I think it's first time we've
Speaker 3: featured Buller on in case you mist at. Well done
Speaker 3: to the Bullet team for there when yesterday over North
Speaker 3: Otago twelve minutes past two, the Warriors have moved to
Speaker 3: the top of the NRL Ladder with a forty five
Speaker 3: twenty six win over the Rabbit O's in Sydney.
Speaker 4: Ten seconds on.
Speaker 31: The club Harris Devina ride in front of the post.
Speaker 8: They're gonna get fid plot this.
Speaker 2: Hat titser.
Speaker 4: You might have been him in little MESSI.
Speaker 2: Sit your part, I wondered, whatt you a tax stick?
Speaker 4: It's Webster, Webster Towns hats and.
Speaker 2: Hats and kicks.
Speaker 4: The field goal clod Hatch incredible. What is the top
Speaker 4: of the table? What a kick two?
Speaker 22: Luke Hanson actually gave a footy without itself.
Speaker 31: Warriors win by nineteen was the first time the letter
Speaker 31: what a finish to the Knight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a field goal on the full time hearder from
Speaker 3: Luke Hanson has taken the Warriors past Penrith on points
Speaker 3: differential with two games to play. The forty five points
Speaker 3: they scored also their highest score of the season, as
Speaker 3: they ran in seven tries at a core stadium. Warriors
Speaker 3: coach Andrew Webster is with us. Congratulations on the win
Speaker 3: and what it's done to your table position. Andrew, the
Speaker 3: match was probably divided into three parts. After forty seven
Speaker 3: minutes you were thirty two to eight in front and
Speaker 3: it scored five tries. So how happy were you at
Speaker 3: that point?
Speaker 22: Uh?
Speaker 21: Yeah, how have you done?
Speaker 15: Look we're playing that opponent that throw caution to the
Speaker 15: win and they're very good at it. They execute a
Speaker 15: lot of those big chefs and big players, and I
Speaker 15: think we all we all knew we needed to be
Speaker 15: on our toes, and sure enough they threw plenty at us,
Speaker 15: and next thing they bring it back to a six
Speaker 15: point margin. So the most pleasing bit was we kicked
Speaker 15: away again, which I think everyone can get a bit
Speaker 15: nervous in that situation, but I was really happy how
Speaker 15: we handled us.
Speaker 3: In terms of the thirty two points that you did score, though,
Speaker 3: how happy were you with the fluidity of your attack
Speaker 3: and the different ways you found to cross the line?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I wouldn't say it was completely though, but I
Speaker 15: just thought he would come up with the players at
Speaker 15: the right time to make suck to shore, ball to
Speaker 15: Eddie and then Eddie flicks it to Chanell. Just you know,
Speaker 15: stuff like that was really cool. But yeah, I think
Speaker 15: Chanelle's doing a great job. Moved to seven and he's
Speaker 15: controlling the theme, and I think everyone's really clear on
Speaker 15: our roles, but I think at our skill level in
Speaker 15: finishing the job, Like we put up a kick, it
Speaker 15: wasn't a great kick, but Chanell finds a way to
Speaker 15: chase it. The ball back and then passed the jakie
Speaker 15: for a try. So it wasn't all just beautiful skill
Speaker 15: and nice execution, although there was some there, there was
Speaker 15: lots lots of like about how we were still competed
Speaker 15: and turned something bad into something good.
Speaker 3: Do you worry we'll be at thirty two eight ahead
Speaker 3: and then it's back to thirty two twenty six? Do
Speaker 3: you worry at that point or are you always confident
Speaker 3: that the right voices will say the right things at
Speaker 3: the right times down on the field.
Speaker 15: No, I'm completely confident in ourship, but I've got complete faith.
Speaker 15: But I'm a human, like I'm worried, I'm going wow,
Speaker 15: you know, but like if you feel asking who could
Speaker 15: I send out there and them deliver a message and
Speaker 15: get them back in back focus, I'm completely confident that
Speaker 15: we've got the right guys who in our leadship style
Speaker 15: and structure. So yeah, completely confident in that bit, but
Speaker 15: I'm certainly human sense where I'm thinking not cheeps. We're
Speaker 15: in a fight.
Speaker 3: The decision by Luke Hanson to drop that goal at
Speaker 3: the end, it takes your top of the ladder on
Speaker 3: points differential. Is that a message you seen down or.
Speaker 15: Not no, no, no, no, I didn't take other field goal.
Speaker 15: They say, our boys wanted to practice a field goal
Speaker 15: because Sanel was going to take it and no pressure.
Speaker 15: And I asked look In to ask again, did you
Speaker 15: know that kicking that would send us there? And he
Speaker 15: said I didn't have a quit. So I think everyone
Speaker 15: can get all the carried away in the romance of
Speaker 15: what happened. But I was happy if we tried to score.
Speaker 15: We nearly scored, like to play before when fish when
Speaker 15: little line break a Minnesota before and then he would
Speaker 15: have passed it. I passed the cap well, and we
Speaker 15: nely scored there. But yeah, the field goal was just
Speaker 15: a boy's trying to practice getting better at I see
Speaker 15: in those moments, well.
Speaker 3: A brand new Hal's conboy. You've mentioned them both, Luke Hanson,
Speaker 3: Chanelle Harris Tavita. How did you evaluate their performance and
Speaker 3: how important might it be if one or both of
Speaker 3: them has to playing those positions over the next month
Speaker 3: or so.
Speaker 15: That's hugely important. Yeah, twisting turns everywhere in this game,
Speaker 15: so we're going to be prepared for every scenario and
Speaker 15: every players a chance to playing. So I thought they
Speaker 15: were good at his opportunity and I was wrapped for
Speaker 15: our most points of the year with a new fresh combination.
Speaker 20: I thought it was all.
Speaker 3: I can ask about Wade Egan later on a couple
Speaker 3: of tries. That's fourteen assists for the season now twenty
Speaker 3: one tackles just such a calm head. How important is
Speaker 3: Wade Egan to you?
Speaker 15: Huge? Absolutely huge calm It's clear. I think everyone talks
Speaker 15: about it halves, but I think he certainly helps him
Speaker 15: give them time, he puts them in good situations. Yeah,
Speaker 15: I think he's a big part of the glue. So
Speaker 15: here are half dropped into our program. Oh sorry, not program,
Speaker 15: but dropped into our team that week. Wait, it's certainly
Speaker 15: making it easy for you.
Speaker 3: So he's very important and as well as an excellent
Speaker 3: all round game tame to Alpiki perfect off the tee,
Speaker 3: he kicked eight from eight. Will that vector into your
Speaker 3: selection thinking when chance is available again.
Speaker 15: Man, we'll take every in consideration. I mean, it can't
Speaker 15: hurt kicking eight from eight, can it? So I thought
Speaker 15: he was awesome my moment. We've had that all year
Speaker 15: so well, good date from eight made the scoreboard look
Speaker 15: even better. And yeah, no, certainly if you will take
Speaker 15: everything consideration. So when when we have that headache.
Speaker 3: We saw Delan what Tennis Lesnie go off after scoring
Speaker 3: has try just after half time. Do you have any
Speaker 3: update on his shoulder?
Speaker 15: Yeah, man, he's boken's collar bone. So he's getting surgery tomorrow.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah.
Speaker 15: So it's a shame that people probably don't realize that.
Speaker 15: And did it pretty did it in the first half,
Speaker 15: kept running the football right and then just went in
Speaker 15: and going back to the wing and in pain. That
Speaker 15: half time he took his jersey off to try and
Speaker 15: get a treated, and then I saw him try and
Speaker 15: put it back on. It wasn't a nice nice look.
Speaker 15: Now we turned out it was fractured, and we tried
Speaker 15: to get him off and then he he is about
Speaker 15: to come off, and then he turned and chased for
Speaker 15: that that pass and he got the pass and he
Speaker 15: scored the try and he put it on his left
Speaker 15: hand and he's right. He'd never scored a try of
Speaker 15: his left end ever. He said to me, Yeah, pretty brave, well,
Speaker 15: extremely brave, and I just thought it was inspiration or
Speaker 15: what he did last night.
Speaker 3: Absolutely incredibly courageous. There's some great footage of I'm almost
Speaker 3: coming off and then turning around and scoring that try
Speaker 3: so shove us broken collarbone? So that season ending, is it?
Speaker 26: No?
Speaker 15: No, no, no, no, it's not right'll be right, We'll
Speaker 15: work it out.
Speaker 3: Okay. It's good to know as we speak right now
Speaker 3: your top that could change in a few hours, of course,
Speaker 3: and I know it only matters if your top at
Speaker 3: the end of the season, but how well do you
Speaker 3: feel that sets you up for a run at the
Speaker 3: top two or even at the minor premiership.
Speaker 15: Honestly, think game to win every game to be my
Speaker 15: premiers or the top two. And we can win every
Speaker 15: game and still want to be top two because penerist
Speaker 15: on four and against yours a game, so can't get
Speaker 15: carried away with us, Alton. Honestly, we play at home.
Speaker 15: I'd love to have a home sending. But if we
Speaker 15: have to travel, we're good at it. What do you
Speaker 15: travel in anyone? So whatever they give us on whatever happens,
Speaker 15: where we'll be ready.
Speaker 3: There is a scenario though, and this is very real,
Speaker 3: under which you might now have four home games in
Speaker 3: a row. You've got the last two in the regular season.
Speaker 3: If you finished top two, your host a game you
Speaker 3: win that you host a preliminary final. The next time
Speaker 3: you travel might be for the Grand Final. Does this
Speaker 3: sort of thing go around in your brain or is
Speaker 3: it just in my brain?
Speaker 15: It goes in my wife's brain having home. I don't
Speaker 15: know if I think a singer avaving no, look, yeah,
Speaker 15: if that happened, i'd be awesome. But yeah, it certainly
Speaker 15: goes through people's brain. Such a sure all.
Speaker 3: Right, Just to finish you extended this week to twenty
Speaker 3: thirty two. I had rich Igar on the radio yesterday.
Speaker 3: He suggested that that should mean you should buy drinks
Speaker 3: until then. How straightforward a decision was it to re sign?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I went to buy Richard drink last night. You
Speaker 15: don't even drink, So I don't know what I can
Speaker 15: do there. No, No, I'm just I'm just really keen. Keen.
Speaker 15: Stay in New Zealand and say the worries. I love
Speaker 15: the place, I love the people. I like what Robo
Speaker 15: and Cameron are doing with the place, and you know,
Speaker 15: like I say it all the time, but we're only
Speaker 15: a reflection of the players, you know, And I just
Speaker 15: appreciate it. Spend more time with them than I probably
Speaker 15: do my family. So it's such a cool place. To
Speaker 15: go to work every day and that's why I want
Speaker 15: to go.
Speaker 3: So well home for a while. Now we'll be thanks
Speaker 3: for taking the time. Congrats on the win mates, save
Speaker 3: travels and all the best as you prepare for Newcastle
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 15: Thank you, thanks so much, No, thank you.
Speaker 3: Andrew Andrew Webster, their head coach, to the Warrior's lines,
Speaker 3: open the talk. The Warriors eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 3: It's two twenty two. Just before we go to the line,
Speaker 3: says have look at this table and ahead to the
Speaker 3: final fortnight of the regular season. So the Warriors are
Speaker 3: currently top thirty eight points twenty two games. The Panthers
Speaker 3: also have thirty eight points from twenty two games, but
Speaker 3: the Warriors have a better points differential by a solitary point.
Speaker 3: Now the Roosters also have thirty eight points and they
Speaker 3: have a game in hand, so they can go back
Speaker 3: to the top of the table if they beat the
Speaker 3: Tigers at home this afternoon, which they almost certainly will
Speaker 3: so then it'll be Roosters forty, Warriors thirty eight, Panthers
Speaker 3: thirty eight, and they'll all have two games left. So
Speaker 3: if the Warriors and the Panthers both win theyre remaining
Speaker 3: two games, they'll stay level on points. So in order
Speaker 3: to finish above the Panthers, the Warriors have to win
Speaker 3: their last two games by a combined same or better
Speaker 3: margin across the two games than the Panthers. In other words,
Speaker 3: assuming both teams win their last two games, we add
Speaker 3: together the Warriors winning margins, and we add together the
Speaker 3: Panthers winning margins, and if those numbers are the same,
Speaker 3: or if the Warrior's number is higher, then the Warriors
Speaker 3: finished second. So let's look at the remaining matches. The
Speaker 3: Warriors have the sixth placed Knights and the tenth placed
Speaker 3: Eagle Sea Eagles, both at home. The Panthers play the
Speaker 3: ninth placed Bulldogs and the sixteenth placed Titans, also both
Speaker 3: at home, so very similar run ins. The Roosters actually
Speaker 3: have quite a tough run in after the Tigers. Today
Speaker 3: they play the fourth placed Dolphins at home and the
Speaker 3: seventh placed rabbit Os away. But the Roosters are red hot.
Speaker 3: They've won their last eight games. They have the inside
Speaker 3: running to win the minor premiership. So think of the
Speaker 3: fortnight ahead as a straight sprint for second between the
Speaker 3: Warriors and the Panthers. And if the Warriors do finish second.
Speaker 3: As I just said to Andrew Webster, there's a very
Speaker 3: real chance that they will play four straight home games
Speaker 3: over the next five weekends, the final two regular season games.
Speaker 3: Of course, then if they're in the top two, they
Speaker 3: would host a qualifying final in week one, and if
Speaker 3: they win that, they'd have a week off and then
Speaker 3: host a preliminary final in week three. Win that and
Speaker 3: they play in the Grand Final on Sunday, October fourth.
Speaker 3: That is why a top two finish in the regular
Speaker 3: season is so advantageous, because you are effectively two home
Speaker 3: games away from the Grand Final. Oh eight hundred five, Alec,
Speaker 3: I know you've been amped up and ready and waiting
Speaker 3: to talk the Warriors.
Speaker 16: Mate.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling with two games to go?
Speaker 11: Piney? How's it going?
Speaker 6: Brother?
Speaker 11: What a great week in the sport that we've had.
Speaker 11: Oh Jesus, just so good to talk to listen to
Speaker 11: web talk. But yeah, I mean, I'm I'm confident Piney.
Speaker 11: If the boys can take care of business, it's everything's
Speaker 11: there for the taking. Obviously, you know we we won
Speaker 11: by nineteen, which is what we had to do. But yeah,
Speaker 11: I think I think that that if we can take
Speaker 11: care of business. That's pretty much all we can do.
Speaker 11: And then I'm hoping that the Dolphins can get up
Speaker 11: over those Roosters next weekend. And I mean even even
Speaker 11: I think I heard you say the Panthers play the
Speaker 11: Bulldogs as well. So I don't know if you watched
Speaker 11: the Bulldogs game, but they were on last night. I mean,
Speaker 11: I know they were only playing the Dragons, but you know,
Speaker 11: there's a few teams that are still fighting for their
Speaker 11: top eight spot, so they've got lots to play for,
Speaker 11: just like us. But yeah, if we can take care
Speaker 11: of business, it just puts us in that great, great
Speaker 11: stead to either finish first or second. Pointy.
Speaker 3: Indeed, yeah, you're right about the Bulldogs. Actually, yeah, and yes,
Speaker 3: the Panthers do play the Bulldogs next and you're right that.
Speaker 18: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The good thing about that, as you say, is that
Speaker 3: the Bulldogs still believe they can make the eight, so
Speaker 3: that won't be I mean, it is it is in Penrith,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's no fore gone conclusion. I mean, the
Speaker 3: teams like the Tigers, for example, this afternoon, I mean,
Speaker 3: the Roosters should have no problem with them. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the likes of the Bulldogs, even you know, the Knights,
Speaker 3: who the Warriors play next week. I mean, we shouldn't
Speaker 3: downplay there. They're a party, you know, on their day.
Speaker 11: They're a good team too, you know, I mean even
Speaker 11: even yesterday, because I watched a bit of that night's
Speaker 11: game and you know, mainly mainly pipped them yesterday and
Speaker 11: and that was it at Newcastle. I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 11: was two pointy. So there was a bit of a
Speaker 11: shock because I thought the Knots would have taken that one.
Speaker 11: But obviously and then and then I think we play
Speaker 11: manly in that last round. So these are no easy
Speaker 11: games for the for the worst to win. But how
Speaker 11: hell we've been playing all season and then obviously with
Speaker 11: all our injuries that we've had, it's just that next
Speaker 11: man up mentality which the boys have, and I've got
Speaker 11: full confidence that we can take both of these games.
Speaker 11: And I mean there's a too early to say to
Speaker 11: book your tickets to the Grand Final.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, It's absolutely not too early. In fact, I
Speaker 3: saw I heard them sound the commentary last night, because
Speaker 3: you can buy Grand Final tickets already, and I think
Speaker 3: you must have to put in when you buy them,
Speaker 3: you must have to put in which club you support
Speaker 3: and so get The club with the most Grand Final
Speaker 3: tickets purchased so far is the Warriors. Warriors fans exactly good,
Speaker 3: all right mate, You keep the faith, You keep the faith,
Speaker 3: You keep the faith, mate, Always good chatting to you, mate.
Speaker 3: I love the enthusiasm you bring to the radio. Stay
Speaker 3: with us on this mate. It's a sprint to the
Speaker 3: finish line for second. Warriors have the Knights in the Sea, Eagles,
Speaker 3: Panthers have the Bulldogs and the Titans, and then we'll know,
Speaker 3: we'll know where they are. I mean top four is
Speaker 3: basically sow and up now, so that will mean at
Speaker 3: least a finals game at home. It could be in
Speaker 3: It could be in week two or three or one,
Speaker 3: depending on where they finish. I'm not going to give
Speaker 3: you all the different combinations. I gave you the combination
Speaker 3: around finishing second. If the Warriors finished third or fourth,
Speaker 3: then they will go away in week one of the
Speaker 3: finals against either the first or second place side. If
Speaker 3: they were to win, that they would host in week three.
Speaker 3: If they were to lose that they would host in
Speaker 3: week two. So Warriors fans will have a guaranteed finals
Speaker 3: game at home now unless the Warriors completely drop their
Speaker 3: bundle and fall out of the top four, which I
Speaker 3: just can't see happening. Thanks Alec. Good to chat to
Speaker 3: you mate, Greg. Hi, there are you going good? Thank you?
Speaker 4: Greg?
Speaker 10: Isn't It's funny years and years we've sat down and
Speaker 10: worked out the permutations of whether we can get into
Speaker 10: the top eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you say, Greg. Yeah,
Speaker 3: We're still a mathematical chance. That's been our sentence for.
Speaker 10: So long exactly, and we're still a mathematical chance.
Speaker 27: I'm getting there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess the difference, as you say, Greg, the
Speaker 3: difference is that, Yeah, in past seasons has been can
Speaker 3: we sneak into the eight? Now it's can we finish
Speaker 3: in the top two? Can we win the thing? For
Speaker 3: goodness sake?
Speaker 10: Of course we can. Basically any of the eight can
Speaker 10: win it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like I feel like if the Warriors
Speaker 3: make the Grand Final, they will I feel like that
Speaker 3: occasion will be something that suits them brilliantly. I feel
Speaker 3: like if they can make the Grand Final, they will
Speaker 3: almost be favorites to win it, regardless of who they're playing.
Speaker 3: There's a bit of water to fly under the bridge,
Speaker 3: but man, there is some momentum in the side, There
Speaker 3: are some depth in the side, there are some key
Speaker 3: players coming back, And ask Andrew Webster about to Mighty Martin,
Speaker 3: but I believe he's back next week. Jackson Ford won't
Speaker 3: be too far away. Even Luke metcalf Mark might make
Speaker 3: an appearance at the end. Dellan, what's zalisni x broken
Speaker 3: collar bone is obviously a blow, but he sounded confident
Speaker 3: that he'll play some part at the back end of
Speaker 3: the season. So I don't know. It just feels as
Speaker 3: though the stars are aligning and their time is now.
Speaker 23: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think that's a very, very big call from you.
Speaker 3: It couldn't be the first time.
Speaker 10: You know, you watch the last couple of games and
Speaker 10: there's been ebbs and flows. Now ad literally everybody will say, well,
Speaker 10: in the past, those ebbs would have continued. Currently we
Speaker 10: seem to be able to pick ourselves up and get
Speaker 10: back on the horse. Like last night's game, I was like,
Speaker 10: oh Jesus, and I really felt like that as you
Speaker 10: said that it was actually a game of four quarters,
Speaker 10: Like we lost the first quarter, we won the second quarter,
Speaker 10: We've lost the third quarter, and we won the fourth quarter.
Speaker 10: In my mind and just taking the score out of
Speaker 10: the equation, just the way that the play went, you know,
Speaker 10: sitting on the edges of your seat all the time.
Speaker 10: One thing I'd like to mention is that and it's
Speaker 10: for the guys who don't get a lot of airtime,
Speaker 10: I suppose, and that's guys like Cathy. You know, the
Speaker 10: recruitment team that the worri is got.
Speaker 14: Is working so.
Speaker 10: Hard to get these flayers to come. Now, in the
Speaker 10: past we've had you know, great deal of dipically in
Speaker 10: getting players to come to the Warriors. Now they're lighting
Speaker 10: up at our door. But you know you need to negotiate,
Speaker 10: and you know, also to negotiate to get Andrew Webster
Speaker 10: for another four years. You know, it's all the back
Speaker 10: room stuff that these I suppose a lot of the
Speaker 10: fans don't actually realize. So I think they need a
Speaker 10: big slap on the back. But yeah, I just think
Speaker 10: that you know, we've got this, as you've said in
Speaker 10: the past, the next man mentality. But it's only through
Speaker 10: having the recruitment that we've got the right people in
Speaker 10: the right places to step up.
Speaker 3: Yep, bang on, great, bang on. And Andrew McFadden needs
Speaker 3: a big pat on the back is just say for
Speaker 3: doing that. The man they call Kappy, the recruitment head
Speaker 3: of recruitment at the Clibs bang on, mate, got to move, Greg,
Speaker 3: but keep the faith. I know you will. I know
Speaker 3: you'll keep me honest as well, and tell me when
Speaker 3: I'm making big calls too big. Thanks for yours twenty
Speaker 3: seven to three, Newstalks NB.
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Speaker 27: Yeah, pretty big, man.
Speaker 33: I mean it's it's what their last test match there,
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Speaker 13: Yeah, man, I mean definitely.
Speaker 33: I think if you, if you, if you put the
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Speaker 3: Our UFC listeners wouldn't forgive me if I didn't ask
Speaker 3: you how the recovery from the knee injury is going.
Speaker 3: How is it going?
Speaker 12: It sucks, bloke, it sucks.
Speaker 33: I'm on the sidelines. I'm just at the gym now,
Speaker 33: so just watching the guys.
Speaker 27: Training and doing their thing.
Speaker 33: It's just I'm getting itchy feet. So I can't wait
Speaker 33: to get myself back in there, which will be a
Speaker 33: couple of months yet to Liken jump on those mats.
Speaker 33: So just learning by watching at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so are we are we on track for
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Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that the plan for sure?
Speaker 26: Bro?
Speaker 33: That's the one.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 33: I think all we need to do now is as
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Speaker 33: we're ahead of schedule now, but make sure that we
Speaker 33: were physically and mentally strong so when we get in there,
Speaker 33: when we get on the mats, well, good to go.
Speaker 3: And you become one of the faces of New Zealand
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Speaker 33: Yeah, man, I mean I've always, I've always whenever I
Speaker 33: gone there, I always put you know, at or and
Speaker 33: my country on my shoulders.
Speaker 27: And go in there with a lot of plates.
Speaker 33: So I think just with with with with us Kiwi's alone,
Speaker 33: just going in there to be able to represent.
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Speaker 8: You know it's it's all possible, so always man.
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Speaker 3: has qualified eighth for tomorrow morning's Dutch Grand Prix. He
Speaker 3: is of course back in the red car. So how
Speaker 3: did he look overnight? Alex Powell out of the New
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Speaker 3: Two forty five. Liam Lawson has qualified eighth for tomorrow
Speaker 3: morning's Dutch Grand Prix. He'll start on the grid beside
Speaker 3: Red Bull teammate Max for Stappin. Lawson had earlier finished
Speaker 3: eleventh in the sprint race won by the Mercedes of
Speaker 3: George Russell. New Zealand Herald motorsport writer and expert Alex
Speaker 3: powellers with us. Of course he's back in the Red
Speaker 3: Ball now, Alex having of course spent the rest of
Speaker 3: the season and the Racing Ball qualifying eight the longside
Speaker 3: Max for stapp and how impressive was his qualifying performance.
Speaker 19: Afternoon, Bonnie, Yeah, look, I sort of can't have enough
Speaker 19: superlatives for what lem Lawson was able to do in
Speaker 19: the early hours of this morning. And the great sadness
Speaker 19: is that the All blacks Worth is going to overshadow
Speaker 19: a lot of it. And if you remember last year
Speaker 19: when Liam Lawson was confirmed in that Red Bull car
Speaker 19: next to maxa stap and he was given a target
Speaker 19: to be within three tenths of the step in per
Speaker 19: lap the qualifying if he had this morning, he was
Speaker 19: about just over one tenth behind Max. So when you
Speaker 19: look at that, having had no time to prepare in
Speaker 19: this car, he had one hour on the Friday night
Speaker 19: into a sprint qualifying into a sprint race, and he's
Speaker 19: just coming and he has shown there is very little
Speaker 19: between the two, which when you think about the quality
Speaker 19: of Max the stap and you've got to remember you
Speaker 19: look at Isaac Hadjar as his teammate, who's at his
Speaker 19: average gap to his teammate this year is about two
Speaker 19: tenths two point three tenths maybe, So look, I mean
Speaker 19: it's just a huge tick for Liam Lawson and where
Speaker 19: we know he is. But now I think the rest
Speaker 19: of the world, in Red Bull in particular, are able
Speaker 19: to see it.
Speaker 3: He's been very careful afterwards, I see not to frame
Speaker 3: this up as any kind of vindication or ravene or
Speaker 3: anything like that. Those are probably media phrases rather than his.
Speaker 3: Do you think he has genuinely put that whole episode
Speaker 3: behind him.
Speaker 26: Yeah?
Speaker 19: Absolutely, I mean the important thing here is that Liam
Speaker 19: has been very forthright about the way he feels about
Speaker 19: the whole Red Bull situation. He says that he feels
Speaker 19: like it almost didn't count that he's never really driven
Speaker 19: Red Bull because he had two races and was unceremoniously
Speaker 19: axed and moved back down to Racing Balls. But the
Speaker 19: way he's rebuilt and earned this chance, Let's not forget
Speaker 19: like Red Bull had plenty of options to put in
Speaker 19: that car next to Mexa Step, and they went with
Speaker 19: Lemowson because they knew he was the one who could
Speaker 19: give them what they want or had the best chance
Speaker 19: of what they want when or not help get this
Speaker 19: chance again in the future. It's probably way too soon
Speaker 19: to say, But in terms of revenge or proving people wrong,
Speaker 19: I think it's not about that he's proved himself right,
Speaker 19: and that's what I think him and the people closest
Speaker 19: to Lamb will really be happy with.
Speaker 3: Time in the car has to be a factor he
Speaker 3: does not. He's having a terrific season at Racing Balls.
Speaker 3: Ninth in the championship, so only the big for McLaren
Speaker 3: Mercedes Ferrari Red Ball ahead of them. Do you think
Speaker 3: this year has fundamentally changed Liam as a Formula One
Speaker 3: driver for the Beta.
Speaker 19: I mean yeah, I mean, of course it has. You know,
Speaker 19: like the knock he would have taken to his confidence
Speaker 19: last year, I think we all saw, like you look
Speaker 19: at what happened in twenty twenty five, that's kind of
Speaker 19: the aberration in his career. He was competitive in Formula
Speaker 19: two and Formula three without really challenging for a title.
Speaker 19: But you look at how he raced in Germany and
Speaker 19: the DTM series and he came within one race of
Speaker 19: winning that. The same with super Formula in Japan. So
Speaker 19: he knows that he is a driver who can fight
Speaker 19: at the front of the field, and it's just been
Speaker 19: about earning the chance to get into a seat where
Speaker 19: he could show that. And that's kind of come this week.
Speaker 19: I mean, Red Bull are a top team, but they
Speaker 19: probably do have the fourth best car of the year,
Speaker 19: and I mean what we'll see I mean over seventy
Speaker 19: two laps later tonight into the early hours of tourrom
Speaker 19: On and will probably show just where he stands now.
Speaker 3: I remember there's a lot of talk last year about
Speaker 3: how unless you were a genius like Max for stap
Speaker 3: and you couldn't drive the Red Bull car. It was well,
Speaker 3: you could drive it, but not very well. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Is the twenty twenty six Red Ball
Speaker 3: more driveable than the twenty twenty five version.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 19: Absolutely, I mean the twenty twenty five car was just
Speaker 19: a peg basically. You look at what Max of Staffan
Speaker 19: was able to do and that just shows how good
Speaker 19: he is. But the regulation change and the way they've
Speaker 19: been able to just strip everything back and redesign this car,
Speaker 19: and you look at the way Isaac hadjust performed in it,
Speaker 19: and it really does show that it is an easier
Speaker 19: car to drive. Hadjars in a second season of Formula One,
Speaker 19: and he did very well in the racing balls last year.
Speaker 19: But the gap he has managed to close to the
Speaker 19: step and you look at the quality drivers that had
Speaker 19: struggled next to the.
Speaker 15: Full time of a champion.
Speaker 19: You've not just got Laws and you've got Pierre Gasley,
Speaker 19: You've got Alex Albon, You've got Sergio Perris, the guys
Speaker 19: who have all shown elsewhere on the grid that they
Speaker 19: are really good drivers. But back dear question, and yeah,
Speaker 19: the quality of this Red Bull car is clearly it
Speaker 19: is an easier car to drive. It is still much
Speaker 19: more difficult than the Racing bulls lamb Lawson is used
Speaker 19: to because that, I mean, by all accounts of a
Speaker 19: very nice car to drive. But where he goes with
Speaker 19: this one, I think he'll be grateful that he's not
Speaker 19: in that twenty twenty five Red Bull.
Speaker 3: I see he's also spoken about tailoring the car much
Speaker 3: more closely to what he actually wants. Is that another
Speaker 3: big difference between the Liam of last year and this
Speaker 3: that he's more confident now telling the engineer is exactly
Speaker 3: what he needs.
Speaker 11: No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 19: I think what we've heard about Lem Lawson right through
Speaker 19: his time in Red Bull is that he is very
Speaker 19: able to give precise driver feedback. You look at why
Speaker 19: he's given him and sorry, why he's been given the
Speaker 19: opportunities he has. It's because of things like that, because
Speaker 19: he's very good at helping teams develop their cars. You
Speaker 19: look at the fact that he has no commercial backing,
Speaker 19: or effectively no commercial backing. He doesn't come from money,
Speaker 19: he doesn't come from a huge population base that Red
Speaker 19: Bull can sell ten million caps and ten million cans
Speaker 19: of drink to every week. So he's got to have
Speaker 19: something in its corner that they do really value him
Speaker 19: for in that technical feedback. Just part of that along worth.
Speaker 19: Now we're seeing, especially next to otherland lad the sort
Speaker 19: of guidance he can give junior members of that team.
Speaker 3: So eighth on the grid, this circuit is reportedly quite
Speaker 3: difficult to overtake on. So what a good result is eight?
Speaker 2: The good result eight will be phenomenal.
Speaker 19: Like I said earlier, this is probably the fourth best cart,
Speaker 19: So seventh and eighth are really where they should be,
Speaker 19: and that's where they are on the grid. It's actually
Speaker 19: going to be a really interesting sort of dynamic. We've
Speaker 19: seen over the last what sixteen months back as time
Speaker 19: at racing balls that Lam Lawson has turned into a
Speaker 19: very good defensive driver. One season in front of you,
Speaker 19: it's very hard to overtake him, but you look at
Speaker 19: how he came up through the grades and through all
Speaker 19: the junior series, and he is actually really aggressive. He's
Speaker 19: very good at getting on the brakes late to beat
Speaker 19: you into a corner and then accelerate out of it quickly.
Speaker 19: Whether or not we'll get to see that tonight, just
Speaker 19: because of the pace troubles that Red Bull are having
Speaker 19: compared to the McLaren for the Mercedes and the ferraris
Speaker 19: is to be seen. But if he gets the opportunity
Speaker 19: to try and get some overtaking done, especially over a
Speaker 19: race distance, I think we'll hopefully see something special. But
Speaker 19: I think at Hold eights that would also be a
Speaker 19: world class result given the circumstances that he's found himself
Speaker 19: in this weekend.
Speaker 3: What time has lights out and away we go.
Speaker 19: It's an early one, it's one am, so if anyone, yeah,
Speaker 19: so if anyone wants to take the night off, I'll
Speaker 19: have something up on the Herald first thing in the morning.
Speaker 19: But otherwise tune in because there could be a good
Speaker 19: one for our key.
Speaker 16: We in there well.
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Speaker 3: your analysis is always good reading. Thanks for joining us
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