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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Day.

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Speaker 3: He like, is that is that da? That Heed golm

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Speaker 3: on me? Wow?

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Speaker 4: That is Harry Belafonte, of course, And that is the

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Speaker 4: theme song to Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, one of our films for

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Speaker 4: this week hitting cinemas now. Our film review of Francesca

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Speaker 4: Rudkin is with us this morning. Kilda, good morning.

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Speaker 5: I think you're probably too young to have even been

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Speaker 5: to the original Beetlejuice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think I'm too young, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: go to the original Beetle Juice. That's that's, you know,

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Speaker 4: truth be told. But I have been very excited about

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Speaker 4: this one because I know that Tim has an amazing

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Speaker 4: kind of esthetic. So as soon as the trailer was released,

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Speaker 4: I was keenly looking at it and looking forward to

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Speaker 4: seeing it in cinemas. So let's have a quick listen.

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Speaker 4: This is beetle Juice, beetle Juice.

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Speaker 6: This beetle Juice.

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Speaker 5: Don't ever say that name.

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Speaker 6: I am serious.

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Speaker 2: SA three times you.

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Speaker 4: Will appear.

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Speaker 5: Betle Juice.

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Speaker 1: The juice is loose.

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Speaker 4: Juice. It's so good.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting because I wasn't a huge fan when it

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Speaker 5: was released in nineteen eighty eight. I loved Timburton. I

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Speaker 5: got I you know, it was incredible to watch this unique,

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Speaker 5: crazy vision of his unfold. I love the art direction

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Speaker 5: and all the quirk, but in a way, the style

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Speaker 5: kind of overran the substance a little bit from me.

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Speaker 5: That's just my that's just my memory from a film

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Speaker 5: that was released thirty five years so I was kind

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Speaker 5: of like, ah, yeah, okay, here we go again. This

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Speaker 5: is Hollywood, this is its wheelhouse. We love a sequel.

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Speaker 5: We love to go back to things that were popular

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Speaker 5: in the past. It's a good way to make a

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Speaker 5: little bit of bank. I can see what they're doing here.

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Speaker 5: They're going to make some money off our nostalgia. And

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Speaker 5: then she I enjoyed it a lot more than I

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Speaker 5: thought I would. It's not as powerful as the original.

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Speaker 5: We probably have come a long way when it comes

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Speaker 5: to films disrupting sort of mainstream films and what we

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Speaker 5: kind of expect. It's not a hugely complicated plot, but

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Speaker 5: it was just actually a heap of fun being back

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Speaker 5: in this world. I think the music and if you

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Speaker 5: go and see this, the music and the scenes where

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Speaker 5: they're kind of doing little musical numbers are just brilliant

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Speaker 5: and it just put a big smile on my face.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of fun here in this film. I

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Speaker 5: think it's going to attract a new audience as well.

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Speaker 5: I took my almost sixteen year old daughter because it

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Speaker 5: had were known a writer in it, and she's a

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Speaker 5: fan of Stranger Things and she was really keen to

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Speaker 5: see it. So I think having that original cast when

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Speaker 5: I write in Katine O'Hara, who's just so good, Michael Keaton,

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Speaker 5: You've got a few newies in there who fit in

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Speaker 5: really well, and Justin Thureau and Monica Balucci. You know,

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Speaker 5: it all just comes together in kind of what you

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Speaker 5: would expect. And the other thing I love about Tim

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Speaker 5: Burton is in this day and age where when things

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Speaker 5: a little when we do things differently in cinema, often

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Speaker 5: we rely on computer generated effects, and he does that here,

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Speaker 5: but he also does really classic old filmmaking where a

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Speaker 5: lot of the dead people in their crazy ways are

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Speaker 5: actually just you know, they're in camera. It's all props,

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Speaker 5: and you know, there's a little bit of old fashioned

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Speaker 5: filmmaking going on here, which is great fun.

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Speaker 4: To enjoy.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, go go.

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Speaker 5: If you're a fan, you're going to love it. But

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Speaker 5: I also think it will attract a new audience as well.

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Speaker 4: Nice. Okay, that's Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Now, let's ever listen to

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Speaker 4: your next film. This is Borderlands.

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Speaker 6: Legend has it that there's this massive treasure hidden in

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Speaker 6: some secret vault and if you go hunting for it,

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Speaker 6: you'd better take any help you can get because it's

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Speaker 6: on the weirdest, most dangerous dumpster fire of a world

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Speaker 6: in the universe.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's Borderlands, tell us about it, Francisca.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: So, generally with films, like I know what is being made,

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Speaker 5: what is coming up, when things are being released and things.

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Speaker 5: But I try to go into films without reading any reviews.

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Speaker 5: I tried it really unbiased, so that I go in

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Speaker 5: and go huh okay, and I have my own sort

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Speaker 5: of reaction opinions. However, it was very hard to ignore

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Speaker 5: the overly negative reviews around this film, and I went,

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Speaker 5: how can it be that bad?

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Speaker 2: It's got Kate blend Shit, it's got Jack Black, it's

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Speaker 2: got Jamie Lee Curtis, it's a really cool cast, right,

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Speaker 2: how can this sci fi action comedy be as bad

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Speaker 2: as everybody saying it's based on a video game? You

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm not familiar with Borderland, you may be familiar

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Speaker 2: with it. So I thought, you know what, I'll take

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Speaker 2: one for the team here and I will pay and

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Speaker 2: I will watch this film. I'm mystified at how.

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Speaker 5: Wrong they got this film. I you know, you probably

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Speaker 5: go into it's wanting expecting a film like Guardians of

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Speaker 5: the Galaxy or The Suicide Squad, where it's a quirky

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Speaker 5: and a bit crazy, but lots of fun and lots

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Speaker 5: of action. And I really did just sit there, going,

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Speaker 5: this isn't cool, it's not funny. How did Kate Blanchett

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Speaker 5: read this script and think that this we're going to

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Speaker 5: pull it off? It doesn't have an edge to it.

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Speaker 5: It's very predictable. It's like these characters were said, Hey,

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Speaker 5: here's this massive, big wardrobe room. Just head on in,

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Speaker 5: pick what you think makes your character and go for

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I just I really just yes sat there, going,

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Speaker 5: can I put my finger on what's gone wrong here?

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Speaker 5: And it's very hard to kind of nail it down.

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Speaker 5: It just does knock like so look, it has been

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Speaker 5: in cinemas. It is now about you can pay for

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Speaker 5: it and watch it on a streaming service. But you

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Speaker 5: know what, if you're a ready paying for a streaming service,

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Speaker 5: I just give it a little bit of time and

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Speaker 5: then maybe just enjoy it with some three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, that's well said. I think we know exactly

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Speaker 4: how you feel about that one. Thanks Francisca. Really appreciated

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Speaker 4: Francisca Rudkin our film review those film once again. Borderlands

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Speaker 4: is the one that's a bit yeah, and the first one,

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Speaker 4: Beetleeduce Beetlejuce is out now, that's really exciting.

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