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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: be afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Coming up today, The man buying

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Speaker 2: our Fairies on the new Faery Deal, Australian Senator Lydia

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Speaker 2: Thorpe on why she wants to send the neo Nazi

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Speaker 2: back here, and Simon Watts on whether the NATS will

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Speaker 2: entertain pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duplicy Ellen, So, the.

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Speaker 2: Latest on Thomas Sewell, the New Zealand born neo Nazi,

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Speaker 2: is that more than forty thousand Australians have now signed

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Speaker 2: an online petition asking for him to be deported back

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand. Because over the last few days he's

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Speaker 2: got himself in a little bit of trouble, asn't he.

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Speaker 2: He's spoken at an anti immigration rally in Melbourne, he's

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Speaker 2: attacked people at an Aboriginal sovereignty camp, he's disrupted the

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Speaker 2: Victorian Premier Jason to Allen's press conference, and now he's

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Speaker 2: been arrested. So the petition calls for the revocation of

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Speaker 2: Thomas Sewell's Australians citizenship through a court authorized process based

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Speaker 2: on his violent extremist conduct and likely dual national nationality,

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Speaker 2: to which I say, are hard.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen to this guy. You hear him. He's

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Speaker 2: got an Australian accent. He refers to himself as an Australian.

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Speaker 2: He talks about taking our country back. He's not our problem,

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Speaker 2: he's their problem. I mean, the irony is not lost

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Speaker 2: on me that he's a migrant to Australia, raging against

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Speaker 2: migrants to Australia. But Australia created him. He went there

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Speaker 2: when he was a little kid. Australia needs to realize,

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Speaker 2: and this is the thing that I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to struggle with. They need to realize they cannot deport

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Speaker 2: their way out of their problems. They've got an enormous

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Speaker 2: problem with white supremacists and neo Nazis over there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this guy, it turns out, was a Facebook friend once

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Speaker 2: upon a time of Brenton Tarrant's, who he apparently admires.

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Speaker 2: We're already dealing with Brenton Tarrant another one of Australia's

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Speaker 2: white supremacists. We don't need any more, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: And sending this one over here is not going to

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Speaker 2: fix the problem because he is not the only one

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Speaker 2: that's over there. I mean, you might send him back,

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Speaker 2: but every other dude dressed in black who hangs out

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Speaker 2: thankfully for us. Rather, it's being reported that he is

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Speaker 2: an Australian citizen, which means that they cannot send him

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Speaker 2: likely I would say he stays where he belongs in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Heather due for see Ellen. Are you having.

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Speaker 5: Two?

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Speaker 2: Is the text number?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: Laser weapons, nuclear ballistic missiles, giant underwater drones. They are

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Speaker 2: among the weapons that have been unveiled at China's big

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Speaker 2: military parade today. Sounds cool like fifty thousand guests attended

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Speaker 2: Tianuman Square, including twenty six world leaders, and we've seen

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Speaker 2: China's Shuji Ping, Russias Vladimir Putin and North Koreas Kim

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Miller is with us now.

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Speaker 7: How Jeffrey, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: We are you impressed with all the weaponry?

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Speaker 7: It is a real showcase, isn't it these military parades

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Speaker 7: you know, in terms of the symbolism, in terms of

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Speaker 7: certainly something worth watching. And those clips will of course

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Speaker 7: the aim of the plan really was to show off

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Speaker 7: what China has to offer in terms of its military strength.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that the Americans will see there that

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 7: I don't very much that anyone is overly surprised at

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Speaker 7: what China has in the stockpile. There was a new

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Speaker 7: coverage from the Australian newspaper and they're hyping that up

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Speaker 7: saying it could reach Australia. Well, yes, and theory lots

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Speaker 7: that's new in a sense, but it is something to

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Speaker 7: you actually had quite a few Western leaders in Western

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Speaker 2: Why did they not invite anybody from our government?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think this week has been all about the

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Speaker 7: Global South. For China, their assistant Foreign Minister when they

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Speaker 7: some of these leaders are coming from countries that New

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Speaker 7: as in in Southeast Asia, Christopher Luxon has visited both

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Speaker 7: in a sense. Some of them are quite good friends

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Speaker 2: What I want to know is leaving for example, Luxon

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Speaker 2: designed to send a message, isn't it, which is in

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Speaker 2: a China shaped world, you are not our friends.

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Speaker 7: I don't know whether it's as strong or as black

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Speaker 2: Wey, but not Luxon.

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Speaker 7: Well, would Christopher Luxen be at the top of the

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Speaker 2: He's a current prime minister and then you've got two

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Speaker 7: Well, Look, I think Helen Clark and John Key probably

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Speaker 7: But look, I think it's really important to engage with China.

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Speaker 7: And if an invitation had been sent to to Christopher

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Speaker 7: We need that dialogue and diplomacy and Jijingping today he

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Speaker 7: made that contrast, he said peace or war, dialogue or confrontation.

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Speaker 7: There was all that military hardware and then there are

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Speaker 7: he's putting out the choices there for the world. And

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Speaker 7: I think in the end, the world be a lot

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Speaker 7: better if we had more peace and less war. So

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Speaker 7: I think you're in the end. It's going to take

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Speaker 7: all of this military hardware past Tiananmen Square.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey, I really appreciate you expertise. Thank you, Jeffrey Miller,

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Speaker 2: geopolitical analyst. So Jijingping turned out well. I thought this

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Speaker 2: was interesting. Gesingping turned up in his mousedong outfit. He

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Speaker 2: there's heaps more that's come out of it, and I'll

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Speaker 8: Indeed, when seventeenth of jen I want to say, at

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Speaker 8: Middle of January, peak summer season, when everyone's there, tickets

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Speaker 8: I got no idea actually, for two reasons, right, two reasons,

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Speaker 8: I don't remember that I'm not paying for sport. I'll

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Speaker 2: Isn't it such a beautiful part?

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Speaker 8: I know it is good or fly in, but it's

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Speaker 5: It's great.

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Speaker 8: I love it, I'm all over it.

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Speaker 2: But just watch it on Telly.

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Speaker 3: No one won't watch it.

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Speaker 8: It's got no weight to it, doesn't mean anything. I

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Speaker 2: That, so much to watch the serious I need.

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Speaker 2: You know the girlfriend here.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Lord, you should have seen his face.

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Speaker 8: For three weeks from station. But Michaels, Mister cricket is

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Speaker 2: It's like watching Carmel Czipploni on Treasure Island or something,

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Speaker 8: Yeah's bleiss. But Mike Cassie great draw card. You want

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to find out tomorrow what's going on

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Speaker 2: with the half back question? Yeah, what's the latest song

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Speaker 8: If he's training, he's good to play, right, That's just

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Speaker 2: But does he You can't just run him out if

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Speaker 2: and they're going to smash him to bits and then

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Speaker 8: Well, if it's a broken rum or a broken stern

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Speaker 8: apparently it's not that they're all broken. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: You got to be sure.

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Speaker 8: They won't roll him out if he's not.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to lose this test?

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Speaker 8: Possibly?

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm not going to lie.

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Speaker 2: To a yellow jersey.

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Speaker 8: Now I love that, and I go, wow, there's a

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you boys, thirty one years all them and

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Speaker 8: I don't expect major changes. I think if they are

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Speaker 8: All of that prep work they've done, all of that

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Speaker 8: continuity that they've engaged in with these players is thrown out,

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Speaker 8: baby bathwater. It's all gone. I think you've been nuts

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Speaker 8: to it. There will be minimal changes, and that's going

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Speaker 2: Darcy, I appreciate your time, make Harse, I appreciate seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock to night sports talk. That's Darcy water Grave for

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Speaker 3: The day's newspakers talk to Heather.

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Speaker 1: First, Heather do for the Ellen Drive with One New

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Speaker 2: Heither does Helen Clark still think we live in a

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Speaker 2: benign environment, benign strategic environment? Well, I'm not sure. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. Helen actually cut a fine figure over there.

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Speaker 2: There's a photograph of her gripping old Jiji Ping's hand.

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Speaker 2: She's got him, She's still got that, She's still got

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Speaker 2: that prime ministerial power move. But what she also rolled

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Speaker 2: like it's a proper zip up jobby, but you could

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Speaker 2: Sigi and she hasn't changed her clutch. The other thing

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Speaker 2: there is a video online of Narendra Mody and Vladimir

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Speaker 2: Putin holding hands. They're walking into a crowd of people

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Speaker 2: and Mody's got him by the hand like you would

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Speaker 2: carry like like you've got your girlfriend by the hand.

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Speaker 2: That is a Mody power move because Mody, you can

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Speaker 2: see he's cool with holding hand. It looks like a

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Speaker 2: nice warm do you know what I mean? He's holding hands.

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Speaker 2: But if there's one thing we know about vlad he's

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Speaker 2: Because he's like, you know, he's the guy who rides

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Speaker 2: also a germophobe, so that would have been an excruciating

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Speaker 2: moment of romance for him. But it's there for us

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Speaker 2: to enjoy. Four twenty six, Heather, do for sea. All

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to tell you has has made us has

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Speaker 2: We've got a bit of progress on the fairy deal.

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Speaker 2: Government has chosen the shipyard that's going to build the

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Speaker 2: two fairies. But that's that's all. That's it. We've chosen

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Speaker 2: to this point, but we've chosen one. Anyway, we're not

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Speaker 2: allowed to know who they are. We haven't finalized the

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Speaker 2: deal yet. We've only signed the letter of intent, which

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Speaker 2: means now we go into the technical negotiations. I haven't

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Speaker 2: even started to tell you about the costs that's associated

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Speaker 2: going to talk to them after five o'clock. Jeez, brace

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Speaker 2: yourself because it's clearly going to be a long process. Heather,

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Speaker 2: you were the one who wanted this all black coach,

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Speaker 2: so beat on your head if they lose listen, put

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Speaker 2: a circle around that. If we lose this weekend to

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Speaker 2: the spring Box, we're going to have a chat. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a bag old chat about razor. But we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it then and only if it happens. Headlines,

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Speaker 2: Next person, where.

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Speaker 1: Person the name you trust to get the answers you need.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else us talk.

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Speaker 3: There'd be.

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Speaker 2: Barrysopa's going to be with us in ten minutes time.

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Speaker 2: Got Jonathan Kursley standing by in the US for us.

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Speaker 2: Hither there is a pro assess and building ships. Don't

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Speaker 2: be so frigging childish. Some days you was so frustrating

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Speaker 2: some days, Mark, some days. That's not what my husband says.

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Speaker 2: He says all days, Yeah, whatever, Mark, whatever. Look at

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Speaker 2: look at the case of the Blue Bridge. Those guys

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Speaker 2: got sign off from their board in December and they

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Speaker 2: had a boat on the water, bought at They had

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Speaker 2: gone out scoped for it. They had they had gone around,

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Speaker 2: about seven thousand years because they sailed it down from

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Speaker 2: Europe and it was here. When was it here? Beaty?

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Speaker 2: Was it here in August? August? I think they got

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Speaker 2: the little water cannons out in Wellington, you know, like

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Speaker 2: what was that? There was like an eight month from

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Speaker 2: of paper with the costs on it. Now you're asking

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Speaker 2: for it, Mark, I'm going to read that to you

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Speaker 2: at some stage to stand by for that. That'll make

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Speaker 3: It's the world wires on newstalks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be drive July July seven months Jijin, King, Vladimir Potent,

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Speaker 2: Kim Jong un, they've all met in person for the

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Speaker 2: At China's massive military parade. It sounded exactly like what

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Speaker 2: There were also a range of new and terrifying looking

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Speaker 2: the parade. Now over in the US, Trump has announced

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Speaker 2: the US Space Command headquarters are going to move to Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Trump has renamed the new location.

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Speaker 11: Space Command Headquarters will move to the beautiful locale of

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Speaker 11: a place called Huntsville, Alabama, forever to be known from

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Speaker 11: this point forward as Rocket City.

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Speaker 2: Bring to it. And finally, a bit of a mystery

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Speaker 12: all heavily armored in bulletproof. In fact, my wife was

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Speaker 1: Bulletproof International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Kursley Channel nine US correspondents with US Hello Jonathan Heather.

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Speaker 13: Hello to you and all our wonderful friends are on

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Speaker 13: the other side of the world.

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Speaker 2: Right, So what does Trump think of that big parade?

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Speaker 14: Then, well, he took the truth social even essentially before

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Speaker 13: He wished them a glorious day to celebrate what China

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Speaker 13: Vladimir Putin, Shijingping, and Kim Jong Owen essentially standing inside

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Speaker 14: Some of the army were there. It was an extraordinary

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Speaker 13: Might, undersea vehicles, high tech aircraft, unmanned drones, unmanned planes,

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Speaker 13: have been watching very very closely. No doubt, we'll hear

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Speaker 13: to say, you three, you're conspiring against me.

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Speaker 2: He thinks it's funny people thought he was dead. Eh.

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Speaker 15: Had absolutely no idea what the online speculation was, and

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Speaker 13: perfectly fine. He says he was very active over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: It was a week ago.

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Speaker 13: He fronted cameras for three hours seventeen minutes or so

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Speaker 2: Now, we were joking with you about how much you

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Speaker 2: love Taite and Travis.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, but the world loves her, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I it will? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we might have had a little large association, if

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Speaker 13: you like, with Travis Kelsey. A couple of days ago,

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Speaker 13: I was in Kansas City, Missouri, to cover an Australian

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Speaker 13: football playing college football and was standing inside Kansas City's

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Speaker 13: Arrowhead Stadium, the home of the Kansas City Chiefs, and

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Speaker 13: sure enough, in walked Travis Kelsey himself, alongside his brother Jason,

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Speaker 13: asked him a question how he was doing, wished him congratulations,

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Speaker 13: tried to talk to him about whether he might consider

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Speaker 13: Australia or even perhaps New Zealand as the destination for

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Speaker 13: the wedding. But yeah, it was a very very brief

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Speaker 13: conversation between Travis and I. He swiftly moved on. I

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Speaker 13: was almost pumped into his brother Jason, and then up.

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Speaker 13: Travis proceeded to the corporate suite to sit alongside his

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Speaker 13: new fiance Taylor Swift, who was there. Were all smiles

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Speaker 13: for most of the game, or at least part of

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Speaker 13: the game anyway. And I have no doubt they'll be

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Speaker 13: back at Arrowhead Stadium in a couple of weeks time,

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Speaker 13: when Travis takes to the field himself, this time for

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Speaker 13: the Kansas City Chiefs against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, everything you've ever lived for, thank you for It's

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Speaker 2: like we were there. I really appreciate that, Jonathan Keresley,

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Speaker 2: Channel nine US correspondent. You just feel like you were

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Speaker 2: in that room with them, almost bumping into Jason nineteen

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 3: Five Heller Dooper. See Allen.

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Speaker 2: You know Mike Joy, the freshwater science go You know,

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Speaker 2: the one who always pops up and he's like, this

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Speaker 2: water is not clean enough. You know that one. It's

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Speaker 2: gone on LinkedIn and he has suggested dairy industry leaders

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Speaker 2: should be hanged. I'm not making it up. Let me

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Speaker 2: give you the direct quote quote. Minnie Dean was hung

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Speaker 2: for killing babies in Southland. But our dairy industry is

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Speaker 2: currently putting babies, brackets and adults clothed brackets at risk

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Speaker 2: with nitrate contamination of drinking slash groundwater. How about we

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Speaker 2: bring back hanging for industry CEOs. Now you don't need

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Speaker 2: me to tell you that that is completely out of

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Speaker 2: hand and that somebody as intelligent and respected as Mike

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Speaker 2: Joy should be maybe staying off the glass of red

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Speaker 2: wine and posting stuff like that. And I hope that

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Speaker 2: everybody who flipped out about the news being outside of

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Speaker 2: the parliamentary protest went on and on about how women

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Speaker 2: in politics face more extreme language and hatred and blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. I hope they flip out about this just

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Speaker 2: as much, but of course they won't because it's not

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Speaker 2: convenient to flip out on behalf of I don't know

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Speaker 2: Myles Hurrel anyway, Victoria University of Wellington might want to

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Speaker 2: have a little chat to Mike about this, because I

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Speaker 2: think we can all agree that Mike needs to be

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Speaker 2: more responsible, doesn't he. Seventeen away from.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I've got to tell you about the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: first Act online battle that's going on, but right now,

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Speaker 2: first we'll deal with Barry Sopert's Quarter two Barry Soper

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Speaker 2: Senior Political correspondence with us Alo Berry. Good afternoon, has So,

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Speaker 2: Penny Nada, you were right, does actually appear to want

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Speaker 2: the leadership.

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Speaker 10: Well, yes, it's interesting, isn't it that he keeps sort

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Speaker 10: of batting it away as Winston Peters was wont to

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Speaker 10: do when he was the MP for Taro.

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Speaker 2: But he doesn't.

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Speaker 10: Well, he's got to be the MP for Tomache Mikodo

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Speaker 10: first before he can probably become the leader of the

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Speaker 10: Labor Party. But I can tell you I have but

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Speaker 10: I'm very good authority. It's impeccable authority that he has

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Speaker 10: touted himself as a future leader of the Labor Party.

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Speaker 10: So you know, this man is driven by what he

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Speaker 10: sees himself in the future as being is leading the

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Speaker 10: Labor Party, which I doubt in the current climate he

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Speaker 10: would get to leave.

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Speaker 2: Why tell me why? Because can I can? I we

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Speaker 2: got into you weren't listening, but we got into a

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Speaker 2: hole on the huddle yesterday where we started talking about

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Speaker 2: who would lead Labor if Chippy was rolled, which is

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Speaker 2: an inevitability at some stage, Yes, and we were picking winners.

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Speaker 2: Why can't it be Penny He's got the backing. I

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Speaker 2: would have thought of Willie Jackson, who's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of clouds on the Labor Party.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, look, PENI Henar is a really nice man. I

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Speaker 10: personally like him. But you know it's and this They'll

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Speaker 10: say I'm racist. Will he calls me a racist all

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Speaker 10: the time anyway. But I think at the moment, given

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Speaker 10: the current climate, for Labor to get on the track

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Speaker 10: of electing Penny Henare as their leader would be a

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Speaker 10: big problem for them when you've got the mad carping

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Speaker 10: from the sideline.

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Speaker 2: But surely it neutralizes the Maori party and you've got

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Speaker 2: the person who become the first could become the first

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Speaker 2: Maori Prime Minister of the country.

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Speaker 10: I don't know whether the public would warm to that idea,

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Speaker 10: but look early in twenty twenty four, just after Labour's defeat,

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Speaker 10: he know they told Q and A he was asked

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Speaker 10: often about becoming the Labor leader.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people do ask me sort of, maybe every once

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Speaker 4: a week or twice week. Maybe a lot of fun,

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Speaker 4: often a lot of fun. But look, I appreciate I've

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Speaker 4: been in politics now for coming up ten years. I

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Speaker 4: consider myself a senior member of the Labor Party. But

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Speaker 4: as I've always maintained, I support Chrussipkins. We've got a

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Speaker 4: lot of work to do as a party for me. Look,

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Speaker 4: I'm like I said, I consider myself a senior leader

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Speaker 4: in our team, and I'll be there to play my partner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bet now part You were not suggesting before

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Speaker 2: that the public wouldn't warm to having a Marii prime minister,

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Speaker 2: were you?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 10: I was because of what's been going on in Parliament,

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Speaker 10: and certainly Willie Jackson doesn't endare yourself to having a

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Speaker 10: Maldi leader. Neither, I would imagine, unfortunately, would Penny.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that Penny's biggest problem actually is

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Speaker 2: that he comes up with wacky policies like one.

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Speaker 10: Of the Jane patches back then. That's making policy on

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Speaker 10: the hoof, isn't it when it comes to a barlection.

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Speaker 10: I don't know whether he gave a great deal of

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Speaker 10: thought to that.

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Speaker 2: Well he doubled down on it. Well, yes, so he's

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Speaker 2: maybe a bit radical for people.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just don't think the public would warm too.

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Speaker 17: Being the leader.

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Speaker 2: All right, now, what did you make of those those

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Speaker 2: tanks and drones?

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, I thought the point to the Political

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Speaker 10: scientist earlier that well I wasn't New Zealand invited. I mean,

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Speaker 10: we had John Key and Helen Clark there and it

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Speaker 10: was Helen Clark's government, which of course negotiated the free

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Speaker 10: trade agreement with China, the first with the West, and

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Speaker 10: John Key had the good fortune of coming into power

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Speaker 10: in two thousand and eight during the global financial crisis,

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Speaker 10: but right at the time that we were getting the

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Speaker 10: benefits of the Chinese Free Trade Agreement, so you know,

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Speaker 10: he can be thankful for that. And I thought it

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Speaker 10: was good that they were both there. But look, I

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Speaker 10: think New Zealand has seen as being embraced more by America.

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Speaker 10: And interestingly, Winston Peters is an extraordinarily good foreign minister.

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Speaker 10: But when he was Foreign Minister Helen Clark, the signing

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Speaker 10: of that agreement, he raised eyebrows in Beijing. I was

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Speaker 10: there by not being there at the signing ceremony, so

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Speaker 10: you know they will look at that as well and

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Speaker 10: see that you know, our foreign minister is Winston Peters.

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying they wouldn't issue an invitation because of that,

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Speaker 10: but you know, it is to me quite interesting why

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Speaker 10: we weren't invited in that military parade. What a magnificent

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Speaker 10: spectacle that was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was absolutely we won't be saying that

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Speaker 2: when it's aimed at Taiwan. Well, you know that's right,

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Speaker 2: it's magnificent.

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Speaker 10: You know, barriers was set up for the locals. You

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Speaker 10: couldn't watch it. And I've been to tinem And Square

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Speaker 10: on a number of occasions and they were kept a

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Speaker 10: block back and all they could say it was on

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Speaker 10: livestream television. And they they released eighty thousand pigeons, eighty

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Speaker 10: thousand balloons. You can imagine what Beijing must have been like.

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Speaker 10: It must have been an absolute spectacle.

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Speaker 2: Barry, were they doves? They were between doves and pigeons,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 10: But no, I've been told they were pigeons together.

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Speaker 2: They were doves, like peace doves. We're gonna check this

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Speaker 2: fact because this is not flying rats.

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Speaker 10: Well I've been misinformed.

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Speaker 2: If they were doves, very really quickly tell me what's

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Speaker 2: happened here with Seymour versus Swarbrick.

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Speaker 10: Well, it'll be really quick because I've missed Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 10: this week and then I got my fizz this morning

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Speaker 10: when she was debating David Seymour on the foreign buyers

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Speaker 10: once again being allowed to buy top end houses in

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Speaker 10: this country. Seymour clearly got under her wick when he

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Speaker 10: was lauding the policy of a listen.

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Speaker 18: Two days ago, I was down just here in the

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Speaker 18: Auckland CBD. I was with a couple of businesses.

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Speaker 19: That have a number of homelessness homelessness.

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Speaker 18: This is the investment that we're talking about, right, Some

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Speaker 18: of these people they say, look, actually I want to

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Speaker 18: come to New Zealand a bit more long term. I

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Speaker 18: think I might invest in a few more businesses. I

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Speaker 18: might do some philanthropy and conservation. Then you say, okay, well,

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Speaker 18: you know, maybe maybe you'd like to buy a home.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 18: If I was in the opposition right now, this is

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Speaker 18: one where I'd actually say no, no, that one's good.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to welcome that.

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Speaker 18: But as we've just heard, we've just got this reflex

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Speaker 18: of SoundBite politics that ain't taking anyone anywhere.

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Speaker 19: This is about the kind of economy that we get

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Speaker 19: to choose to create the conditions of as politicians. That

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Speaker 19: is not sustainable, It is not fair, and it is

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Speaker 19: not the old edo in New Zealand that I believe

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Speaker 19: most New Zealanders believe in.

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Speaker 2: So there, mister Barry, thank you very much, very so

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Speaker 2: for senior political correspondence. He's away from five.

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Speaker 3: Question to the Newspeakers the mic Asking.

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Speaker 20: Breakfast Paris climbed to court under real pressure internationally, Trump's

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Speaker 20: out act here. I want ahead in a similar direction.

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Speaker 20: Andrew Hoggett is, of course the Associate Minister of Bagon Environment.

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Speaker 20: If you just take it on factually, can we get

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Speaker 20: there the accord losers.

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Speaker 6: Trying to do all this is just costing his jolling

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Speaker 6: far too much, and energy prices, farmland being gobbled up

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Speaker 6: by pine trees, or such a small part of the

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Speaker 6: world's and missions, and seem to be one of the

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Speaker 6: few countries trying to be puer than pure. And I

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Speaker 6: think I need a bit more realistic about it. We've

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Speaker 6: got the world's most efficient farmers, We've got a lot

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Speaker 6: of renewable energy. Let's not beat ourselves to death over

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Speaker 6: being some sort of sacrificial guinea.

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Speaker 20: Pick back tomorrow at six am the mic husking Breakfast

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Speaker 20: with Mayley's Real Estate Newstalk zb either.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe the public wouldn't want Penny Henae because

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Speaker 2: he's Maori. It's more because of the potential radical side

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Speaker 2: and the ties to Jackson. I think that's what Barry

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Speaker 2: was trying to say. Hugh, thank you for that here.

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Speaker 2: The pigeons are doves, just a different type MJW. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much. Everybody's reporting doves except for the New

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Speaker 2: York Times who are reporting pigeons. But it is what

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Speaker 2: it is, how you choose to see it, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you're like, oh, look at how nice

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Speaker 2: Jinping is, then you're like, oh, look at stoves. And

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Speaker 2: if you're like, mmm, look at Jijingpang, he just released

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Speaker 2: a bunch of flying rats. You can call it what

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Speaker 2: you like. Four away from five. Now, this is what's

656
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Speaker 2: going on, Okay, New Zealand. First, an Act of battling

657
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Speaker 2: it out on social media right now about who came

658
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Speaker 2: up with the idea first to pull out of the

659
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Speaker 2: Paris agreement. So Winston posts he Act announced it yesterday morning.

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Speaker 2: Then Winston posted, yesterday afternoon on social media, we don't

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Speaker 2: mind other parties agreeing with our policy stants we announced

662
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Speaker 2: back in March. Common sense is catchy and after all,

663
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Speaker 2: imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. So then

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Speaker 2: Act replied to his message with a screenshot of a

665
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Speaker 2: Herald story from the third of feb which is earlier

666
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Speaker 2: than March, quoting David Seymour as having floated the idea,

667
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Speaker 2: and then New Zealand First replies to their reply with

668
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Speaker 2: a screenshot of the platform, you know, the media outlet

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Speaker 2: from the thirty first of January where Winston is floating

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Speaker 2: the idea. But now, to be fair, I'm gonna call

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Speaker 2: this one Mummy coming into arbitrate. I'm gonna call this

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Speaker 2: one for ACT because I know that they've both been

673
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Speaker 2: floating the idea, and technically New Zealand First is still

674
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Speaker 2: floating the idea, and I know that behind the scenes

675
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Speaker 2: there have been representations to New Zealand First they've been

676
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Speaker 2: encouraged to choose this as one of the things that

677
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Speaker 2: they're going to run their campaign on, but they haven't

678
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Speaker 2: actually yet chosen it. Well bumma, because ACT did choose

679
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Speaker 2: it and then ACT went public with it. So New

680
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Speaker 2: Zealand First got kazumpt. Anyway, let's talk about the fairies next,

681
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Speaker 2: and then after that Lydia Thorpe. Yeah, she's a bit

682
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Speaker 2: cokay from Australia and so we're just all going to

683
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Speaker 2: we're just gonna hear her out on this. She wants

684
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Speaker 2: to send the neo Nazi back here. So anyway, that'll

685
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Speaker 2: be interesting. Stand by newstook ZB.

686
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Speaker 3: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duper c l and drive with one New

688
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Speaker 1: Zealand to coverage like no one else newsork Vy afternoon.

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Speaker 2: We've got progress on the cook Straight ferries. The government

690
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Speaker 2: has chosen a shipyard to build them, but it's keeping

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Speaker 2: which one a secret. Chris McKenzie is the chair of

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Speaker 2: Ferry Holdings Limited, which is in charge of buying the

693
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Speaker 2: fairies and is with us.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Chris, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Hey, congratulations. Are more negotiations to do though.

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Speaker 21: Yes, this is a letter of intent, which means that

697
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Speaker 21: we've identified the shipyard out of the six that we're

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Speaker 21: in that final group. We now enter into a period

699
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Speaker 21: of technical negotiations. So we've agreed a fixed price for

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Speaker 21: the boat. We now negotiate what's inside that boat, you know,

701
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Speaker 21: arrangements even down to what sort of sinks we have

702
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Speaker 21: in the kitchens and what have you, and then a

703
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Speaker 21: final contract will be signed for the building before the

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Speaker 21: end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be rail enabled?

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 21: It is rail enabled, which means that a shunting engine

708
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Speaker 21: pushes wagons onto the ferry. Just as the ratary, but

709
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Speaker 21: if there's no rail wagons, particularly at holiday period, then

710
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Speaker 21: it's compatible and it can be used as a ropax ferry,

711
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Speaker 21: so it's flexible.

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Speaker 2: Have you got a deal? Do you reckon? It's a bargain?

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Speaker 21: Look, we have worked hard. We've put a lot of

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Speaker 21: pressure on a lot of people, both in ferry holdings

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Speaker 21: and the contractors and consultants we've had. We have got

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Speaker 21: what we consider to be the best deal that we could.

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Speaker 21: It is within the budget that the government has given us.

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Speaker 21: The Minister will say more on that, So I think

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Speaker 21: we have got the best bargain that we could at this.

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Speaker 2: Point, how long before we actually know all the details.

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Speaker 21: The details will be known. I would suspect that the

722
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Speaker 21: Minister will like to make an announcement, probably towards the

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Speaker 21: end of November in December. Okay, We've got a process

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Speaker 21: of six weeks now where our people will be at

725
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Speaker 21: whatever board shipyard that we have chosen. They will come back.

726
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Speaker 21: The Board will then consider what they bring back to us.

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Speaker 21: We will then write a report for ministers and the

728
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Speaker 21: ministers will agree, at which point there will then be

729
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Speaker 21: a contact signed at the shipyard and the Minister in

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Speaker 21: the meantime, we'll make whatever announcements that he thinks is

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Speaker 21: appropriate at the time.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Chris, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 21: That's actually not driven by us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, now look I know how that works. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Chris. Good luck with everything and well

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Speaker 2: done so far. Chris Mackenzie, Chair of Ferry Holdings Limited.

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Speaker 3: Heather du for Cy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: To the case of that Australian neo nazi Thomas Sewell

739
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Speaker 2: who rested yesterday. There's now a petition online with over

740
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Speaker 2: fifty thousand. In fact, it's close to sixty thousand signatures

741
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Speaker 2: calling for him to be deported back to his birth

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Speaker 2: country of New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe is an independent Australian senator for the state of

745
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Speaker 2: Victoria and with US. Hey, Lydia, Hello Heva, thanks for

746
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Speaker 2: having Menia, Thanks welcome back to the show. Now you

747
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Speaker 2: want him to port it, do you?

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Speaker 22: I don't think that that is the answer, to be honest,

749
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Speaker 22: there is a problem with white supremacy in this country

750
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Speaker 22: and that's what we need to be dealing with. I

751
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 22: understand that the people signing that petition want action. They

752
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 22: want some kind of action, and that is because we

753
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Speaker 22: have a federal government that have said nothing about this.

754
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Speaker 22: The Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi has said nothing. This is

755
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Speaker 22: the hate crime and I'm calling on the Federal Parliament

756
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Speaker 22: to address it as a hate crime from the Australian

757
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Speaker 22: Federal Police. I don't think sending a white supremacist to

758
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Speaker 22: my brothers and sisters, my Marti brothers and sisters of

759
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Speaker 22: Atier Row are is going to solve anything here because

760
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Speaker 22: you know it's one Nazi. There's plenty more where that

761
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Speaker 22: comes from. And we need to address the absolute racism

762
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Speaker 22: that is rife in this country.

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Speaker 2: Literally, Wow, thank you. I'm really grateful because I was

764
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Speaker 2: really I really don't want them to come here either. Listen,

765
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Speaker 2: what is the situation with you people?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 2: Why have you got so many neo Nazis over there?

768
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Speaker 22: Well, they've always been here. I mean since invasion, we've

769
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Speaker 22: been dealing with white supremacy and you know we see

770
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Speaker 22: that in the Parliament, the Federal Parliament. The racism that

771
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Speaker 22: particularly black and brown people have to deal.

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Speaker 2: With is every days something else. I mean, this guy's

773
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Speaker 2: going around punching people and you know, doing weird stuff

774
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Speaker 2: and hire Australia and stuff. Where's this where's all this

775
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: radical stuff come from?

776
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Speaker 22: Well, it's the very foundation of this so called great nation.

777
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Speaker 22: You know, it might be great for some, but it's

778
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Speaker 22: not great for us. We're the poorest, sickest people in

779
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Speaker 22: our own country and white supremacy has been a longstanding problem.

780
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Speaker 22: I myself, since I entered politics, have been subjected to

781
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Speaker 22: neo Nazi threats, neo Nazi violence, and they have been

782
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Speaker 22: on top of the list for the Australian Federal Police

783
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Speaker 22: for many years. It's just not taken seriously and usually

784
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Speaker 22: it's just swept under the carpet with a slap on

785
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Speaker 22: the wrist, like what we're.

786
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Speaker 3: Seeing right now.

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Speaker 22: And that's just the racism that still exists in this country, unfortunately,

788
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Speaker 22: and that's what needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 2: Lydia, thank you for talking to us. Lydia Thorpe, Independent

790
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Speaker 2: Senator for Victoria. Didn't think we'd be agreeing with Lydia there.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we five point thirteen either.

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Speaker 3: Dup c LA.

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Speaker 2: Listen, this is a problem with you know what the

794
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Speaker 2: nags are? A you know the nangs. If you don't

795
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Speaker 2: know what the nags are, asked the kids nearby, they'll

796
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Speaker 2: tell you. What the nags are. There's a problem. I'm

797
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Speaker 2: going to update you on that shortly. I've got to

798
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Speaker 2: tell you this. This is just broken in the news

799
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Speaker 2: in Australia. A kid, a toddler, a toddler from daycare

800
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Speaker 2: in Sydney has gone missing for four hours because the

801
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Speaker 2: granddad took the wrong baby home. The granddad took the

802
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Speaker 2: wrong baby home. He went to pick the baby up.

803
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Speaker 2: They were all asleep in the baby sleeping room, picked

804
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Speaker 2: up the picked up we won, didn't see it was

805
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Speaker 2: the wrong we won, took we one home, put we

806
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Speaker 2: one in the car seat, fiddled around in the car seat.

807
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Speaker 2: You know what the car seats like. He was distracted

808
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Speaker 2: by the car seats, so he didn't look down and go, oh, geez,

809
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Speaker 2: that's not my baby. Anyway, I knows, oh, got the

810
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Speaker 2: car seat, took baby home, baby was sleeping four hours.

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Speaker 2: Did not know that's not your child that you've taken home.

812
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Speaker 2: What happened was the center, the center. Eventually like that

813
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Speaker 2: baby's mum came to pick him up and was's my baby,

814
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Speaker 2: And so they had to go through it as terrifying

815
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Speaker 2: they had to go through. It's funny now, but it

816
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: wasn't at the time or was it. They had to

817
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Speaker 2: go through the CCTV and they saw granddad nicking him,

818
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Speaker 2: so they called granddad and grandma and they were like,

819
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Speaker 2: you've taken the wrong baby. And only at that point

820
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Speaker 2: did he go and have a loco mill like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's not my grandchild. Same here. Apparently that was and

822
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: that was same hare. That was the problem. Fourteen past five.

823
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Speaker 2: I could get yourself or get ready really to get

824
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Speaker 2: yourself by the phone or get online, because the following

825
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: wine deal is quite frankly absurd value for money, and

826
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Speaker 2: it's available exclusively at the Good Wine Code. That is

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Speaker 2: the Good Wine Code dot the Good Wine by the Way,

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Speaker 2: dot co dot MZ. Now, this is a canceled export

829
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Speaker 2: order on a five star rated Marlboro Saven Your Block

830
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Speaker 2: from a cracker of a twenty twenty four vintage which

831
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Speaker 2: has been cleared right now at ten dollars ninety nine

832
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Speaker 2: per bottle. This is truly five star savvy at a

833
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Speaker 2: two star price. The wine is called Southern Lines Marlboro

834
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Speaker 2: Saven Your Block twenty twenty four and the quality that

835
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Speaker 2: you're getting here for a Marlborough Savy for just ten

836
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: ninety nine is just outstanding, it really is. It's originally

837
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: destined for the overseas market but now being cleared here

838
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: on the domestic market at just ten ninety nine per bottle.

839
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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty four vintage and Marlborough was a beauty

840
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Speaker 2: one sapp and you're going to see what the fuss

841
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Speaker 2: is about. And it gets even better. You will pay

842
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: just one dollar per case delivery to your door nationwide

843
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: conditions apply. Now the phones are going to be ringing hot,

844
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: so if you cannot get through, jump online now to order.

845
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: Remember it's only available at the Good Wine Co. So

846
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Speaker 2: head along to the Goodwine dot Co dot Nz or

847
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: give them a call. Oh eight hundred double six two

848
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Speaker 2: double six to two ever do for c Ellens eighteen

849
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: past five. Now a bit of a worry about the

850
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: latest development with the nangs. You know what I'm talking about?

851
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: Those silver those small silver cream charges which have got

852
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: the drug nitrous oxide in them. They have now being

853
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: sold in huge bottles of three point three liters, which

854
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: is about three hundred of those little canisters. Chair of

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Speaker 2: the manyere were local board. Matt Winnie utters with us. Now,

856
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Speaker 2: hey Matt, hi, even how are you? I'm very well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Who's selling them in these big bottles?

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Speaker 23: Ah, that's what I'd like to know. I've got no idea.

859
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Speaker 23: We've been trying to look around, but that's the worry

860
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Speaker 23: at the moment. I know that they're available online, but

861
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 23: as they're getting in the hands of our youth in

862
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Speaker 23: some way, and that's what's what we're trying to find out.

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Speaker 2: How do you know this is happening.

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00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: Well, I've spent a.

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Speaker 23: Lot of time out and about in the community and

866
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Speaker 23: I just just happened to be outdoor knocking one day

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Speaker 23: and found one and thought, okay, well I have to

868
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Speaker 23: I'll have to come back with the car and grab that.

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Speaker 23: And then it was It was a Saturday, a couple

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Speaker 23: of weekends ago or Saturday week ago between, on a

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Speaker 23: ten minute drive and the only reason it took ten minutes.

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Speaker 23: It would have been quicker, but I had to stop

873
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Speaker 23: and pick these things up. I came across another nine

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Speaker 23: of them, and then Saturday just gone, yeah, yeah, as

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Speaker 23: you would expect. You know, people see these things on

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Speaker 23: the side of the road, like the smaller nangs, you know,

877
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Speaker 23: that seemed to be quite common. The nangs have grown up,

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Speaker 23: they've graduated high school and they've they've sent themselves out

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Speaker 23: into the world and these larger things which are an

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Speaker 23: absolute travesty. So it was Saturday. I was just happen

881
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Speaker 23: to be driving down Coxhead Road, which wasn't too far

882
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Speaker 23: from the local playground the dale, and I came across

883
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Speaker 23: the larger one and I just I craped myself, was like,

884
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Speaker 23: what are the kids in the community doing to themselves

885
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Speaker 23: and the such a large delivery device to replace the.

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Speaker 3: Smaller angs as.

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Speaker 23: As I don't know, I don't know what to say,

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Speaker 23: but needless to say, I approached Dr Grant Hewison. He

889
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Speaker 23: is the legal advice for the DLC District Licensing Committee

890
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Speaker 23: which I'm the lead on at the money of your

891
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Speaker 23: local board, and he said they get it to a

892
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Speaker 23: regulatory meeting, which just happened to be yesterday, so there

893
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Speaker 23: was some pace that we needed to follow to get

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Speaker 23: that across.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm glad you're dealing with it. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 2: very much, Matt. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Matt.

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Speaker 2: When he asked the chair of the MONYERI a local

899
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Speaker 2: board here, the granddad taking the wrong baby home is

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Speaker 2: a good ad for Specsavers. I don't know what. It's

901
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Speaker 2: a It seems like a deeper problem there, doesn't it

902
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Speaker 2: Either of food production is not meant to be affected

903
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Speaker 2: by the Paris Accords. And why is it seemingly that

904
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Speaker 2: in this country farmers are by far the most penalized

905
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Speaker 2: by us being in the accords. It's a very good question,

906
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Speaker 2: Cam and I don't know if anybody's ever answered it.

907
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Speaker 2: And we're going to have a chat to Matt Wat

908
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Speaker 2: Simon Watts. He's the Climate Change Minister, but more importantly

909
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Speaker 2: he's a National Party member because Act once out of it.

910
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Speaker 2: New Zealand first one's out of it. So where does

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Speaker 2: he stand on it? He's with us after six. It's

912
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Speaker 2: five to twenty one.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

914
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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

915
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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

916
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Speaker 1: Mobile News Talks endb Heather.

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Speaker 2: It's possible that those large nitrous bottles are actually used

918
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Speaker 2: in high performance cars, as in drag cars for a

919
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Speaker 2: power boost. Steve, thank you, five twenty four. Now we

920
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Speaker 2: need to talk about that Amazon announcement yesterday. These guys

921
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Speaker 2: have taken us for fools, ah in this country. They've

922
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Speaker 2: looked at us in New Zealand and they've gone, let's

923
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Speaker 2: take these guys for fulls. That's seven and a half

924
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Speaker 2: billion dollars. Wasn't new. It was already announced by Justinda

925
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Speaker 2: four years ago. It's not even actually a convincing number

926
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Speaker 2: because it looks like what they've done here has included

927
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Speaker 2: their power bills. Now, power bills are not an investment,

928
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Speaker 2: they are an operating cost. The thousand jobs that Amazon

929
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Speaker 2: now tells us that they're supporting also looks questionable. It

930
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Speaker 2: looks like they've included people who already work in the

931
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Speaker 2: electricity sector, and some say the real number is more

932
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Speaker 2: likely a few dozen jobs. Amazons not building anything. All

933
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Speaker 2: the data centers they tell us are now live have

934
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Speaker 2: actually been built by other companies, which means that you

935
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Speaker 2: could argue that they haven't actually added anything material to

936
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Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy, because if they didn't use those

937
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Speaker 2: existing data centers, someone else were just to be using

938
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Speaker 2: those existing data centers. In fact, you could argue that

939
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Speaker 2: Amazon running those data centers is actually not the best

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Speaker 2: outcome for New Zealand, because Amazon does not pay tax

941
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Speaker 2: on all of their revenue here, which means if another

942
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Speaker 2: local company use those data centers and paid full tax

943
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Speaker 2: like they do, we'd all be better off, would be

944
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Speaker 2: better off than Amazon using the centers and then sending

945
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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars overseas like Google and Facebook do. Now,

946
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Speaker 2: being critical of that announcement by Amazon yesterday is not

947
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Speaker 2: the same as being ungrateful for the good that they're doing.

948
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Speaker 2: I think you should interrogate an announcement just a little

949
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Speaker 2: bit more than simply taking it at face value, because

950
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Speaker 2: that is what Amazon wants you to do. They want

951
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Speaker 2: to play us for fools. They want to make us

952
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Speaker 2: believe that they're doing good when what they're actually doing

953
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Speaker 2: is just making money of us.

954
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Speaker 3: And that's fair.

955
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Speaker 2: I don't mind them making money off us. They're a business,

956
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Speaker 2: we're customers. But let's see it for what it is.

957
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: Let's not be grateful for them doing business. I still

958
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Speaker 2: like Amazon's product, but to be honest with you, like

959
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: a little bit less than I did yesterday when they

960
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: assumed that this country was full of stupid people who

961
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Speaker 2: would just simply believe anything.

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Speaker 3: Heather Doopers, the Ala, you talk about that with the heart.

963
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Speaker 2: All they're going to be with us. Who have we

964
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: got today? Jack Tame, Jordan Williams or coming at it

965
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Speaker 2: from both sides. Good news for Cardi B. If you've

966
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Speaker 2: been following this like the show has Cardi B. The

967
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Speaker 2: rapper has been found not guilty of assaulting her former

968
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Speaker 2: security guard. But the bad news is that as soon

969
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Speaker 2: as Cardi B got out of court, she threw a

970
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Speaker 2: pen at a journalist for asking her this question about

971
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Speaker 2: her pregnancy.

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Speaker 14: Hey guy, you're beautiful.

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Speaker 10: Thank you insiders and claiming that I'll set it's publicly

974
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Speaker 10: bragging about getting you pregnant for the fourth time.

975
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Speaker 24: No disrespecting me.

976
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Speaker 25: Don't disrespect me.

977
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Speaker 14: I still love you, even though you just threw some

978
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Speaker 14: stuff at me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thankful, don't do that? Did you the sound of

980
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Speaker 2: the pendld as it flew into him. She also gave

981
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Speaker 2: some sessy lip.

982
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Speaker 24: But I'm giving a warning. I am not that celebt

983
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Speaker 24: that you're gonna see and you think it's gonna settle.

984
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Speaker 24: I'm not gonna settle, especially when I'm super completely innocent.

985
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Speaker 24: I know I got a little I know I got

986
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Speaker 24: a little reputation, but I swear to God, I'm I

987
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Speaker 24: swear to God. I did like like like, I'm really innocent.

988
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Speaker 2: For real, I'm really innocent, but I threw a pen

989
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: at you, so I don't have any anger management issues anyway.

990
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Speaker 2: She's lucky that he loves her, that you're still beautiful.

991
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Speaker 2: I still love you anyway. Listen, we're gonna talk this

992
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: matter of Shane Christy, which we've talked about on the

993
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Speaker 2: show earlier this week. It now turns out this is

994
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Speaker 2: the rugby player who died possibly with CTE from the concussion.

995
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: Turns out there was a report on him which he

996
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: ended up New Zealand Rugby had done, but which they

997
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: refused to release, which they get he wasn't allowed to release.

998
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: He gave it to David Fisher, one of the reporters

999
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Speaker 2: at the Herald, told David he could only release it

1000
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Speaker 2: when he died, which has now happened today. So we'll

1001
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: talk to Fish next. Headlines as well.

1002
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

1003
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: It's Heather defic Cy Ellen drive with one New Zealand

1004
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: coverage like no one else news talks.

1005
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 26: They'd be said right.

1006
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: Just to reminder, Simon Watt's National Party Minister of Climate

1007
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: Changes with us after six o'clock on the Paris Accord

1008
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: and we've got the boys standing by for the huddle,

1009
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: Jack tam and Jordan Williams. It's twenty five away from

1010
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: six now. It turns out New Zealand Rugby commissioned to

1011
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: report into players with head injuries all the way back

1012
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. And this report include did the late

1013
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: rugby star Shane Christy and his concussion care? But the

1014
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: thing is they kept it a secret and even he

1015
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to share it before his death. He gave

1016
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Speaker 2: it to the Herald and told the Herald only to

1017
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: release it if he died. The reporter who dealt with

1018
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: it was Harold investigative journalist David Fisher.

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00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 2: David Hi, why was it kept secret?

1021
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Speaker 5: The report, when it was originally done, was done on

1022
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Speaker 5: the basis of confidentiality, which was something that Shane had

1023
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Speaker 5: agreed to. This was a report that looked at how

1024
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Speaker 5: he had been treated for his concussion symptoms over the

1025
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Speaker 5: time that he had been involved with indeed rugby. But

1026
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Speaker 5: there was the second part to the report that Shane believed,

1027
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 5: once he'd seen the finished copy, didn't need to be confidential,

1028
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 5: and that was the bit of the report that he

1029
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 5: had specifically asked to be done because he wanted Indeed Rugby.

1030
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Speaker 5: He wanted a reflection on what Indeed Rugby did and

1031
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 5: whether it could be doing it better, and he wanted

1032
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Speaker 5: that for all the other players who were still playing.

1033
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Speaker 5: And that was the part of the report that he

1034
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Speaker 5: wanted released from the confidentiality so that it could be

1035
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Speaker 5: made public and.

1036
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Speaker 2: What insied, I wouldn't agree to that.

1037
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Speaker 5: That's right. Shane, after the death of his friend Billy

1038
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Speaker 5: Geidon fellow tessaon Marco's player, had gone back to Indian

1039
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Speaker 5: Rugby and said this needs to be out in public

1040
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Speaker 5: so that you can be tracked as to whether or

1041
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Speaker 5: not you've actually followed through on any of these recommendations.

1042
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Speaker 3: And Mark Robinson, who.

1043
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Speaker 5: Was the chief executive of indid Rugby, said no, we're

1044
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Speaker 5: not having that. There's a letter that he had said

1045
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Speaker 5: to Shane through his lawyers saying you agreed to confidentiality

1046
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Speaker 5: and that's what we're sticky want.

1047
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: So do they not want it out there?

1048
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Speaker 5: Well, they're talking a different story now to be to

1049
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Speaker 5: indid Rugby. When the issue of confidentially confidentiality came up

1050
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: around this report way back that it was done around

1051
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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. It was it was to give

1052
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Speaker 5: the medical people who had been treating Shane in a

1053
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Speaker 5: medical sense some protection in terms of their identity. So

1054
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Speaker 5: there was a not unexpected reason about this at the outset,

1055
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Speaker 5: and it was about looking after those doctors and their

1056
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Speaker 5: privacy rather than about any dirty secrets that edsin Rugby

1057
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Speaker 5: might want to keep out of the public eye. But look,

1058
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Speaker 5: it's changed. It has changed in the year since Shane

1059
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 5: gave you that report and his death. It's more like

1060
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Speaker 5: ten months, I suppose. But Edsie Rugby is now saying

1061
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: we need to find a way to get those recommendations

1062
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: out and we want to be able to.

1063
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Speaker 2: Do that now. Am I right in thinking one of

1064
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: the recommendations is the greater standdown period for concussion.

1065
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Speaker 5: There was one of the things that was raised. There

1066
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Speaker 5: were many things that were raised in there that shames

1067
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Speaker 5: very keen to have explored.

1068
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Speaker 2: Yeah, David listen, thank you very much to appreciate it.

1069
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Speaker 2: David Fisher, New Zealand Herald investigative journalist Heather with Mody

1070
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Speaker 2: holding hands with potent. I'm surprised John Keaton didn't try

1071
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Speaker 2: to join in twenty one away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your

1073
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Speaker 1: one of the kind.

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Speaker 2: On the Huddle with us. This evening we have Jordan

1075
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Speaker 2: Williams Taxpayers Union, Jack Tame, host of Q and A

1076
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Speaker 2: and Saturday Mornings on News talksz'd be highlads.

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Speaker 5: Good you Jordan.

1078
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Speaker 2: How are you liking that Amazon deal?

1079
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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 27: Your interviews today was like, it is just great that

1081
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 27: things should go viral. You can just imagine it. You know,

1082
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 27: some twenty something comm's grad writing bs COM's for Amazon

1083
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 27: not used to you know, someone asking basic questions to

1084
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Speaker 27: think that you could re hate a seven and a

1085
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 27: half billion dollar announcement you announced what was it four

1086
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 27: years ago with with our dere and having not spend

1087
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 27: a cent and not give you a time frame when

1088
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 27: they'rectually gonna spend the money and the money is actually

1089
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 27: just bringing their own computers in their own software over.

1090
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 27: It wasn't created a thousand jobs, It was a support thousands.

1091
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: Of Are you not insulted?

1092
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 13: Though?

1093
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: That they looked at and they went, that's stupid. They

1094
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: won't even ask any questions.

1095
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 27: It's so good on your part, like not to not

1096
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 27: to fuddle in your pocket, Jack, Are you insulted?

1097
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 25: If I'm insulted, I mean it was. It was pretty remarkable.

1098
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 25: I mean, I I will echo Jordan's praise either. I

1099
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 25: thought it was a fantastic interview and just cut straight

1100
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 25: to the heart of the issue. I mean, I actually

1101
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 25: find it pretty extraordinary that Christopher Luxon was prepared to

1102
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 25: put himself in a position celebrating this thing, given the

1103
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 25: level of scrutiny it was likely to follow. Like it

1104
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 25: didn't don'tate this the wrong way, But it didn't take

1105
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 25: like vast scrutiny to actually get a better picture of

1106
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 25: what was happening, right. You just asked those all important,

1107
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 25: very basic questions like have you built data centers? How

1108
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 25: many data centers? How many people have actually been employed?

1109
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 25: And I think we were able to work things out

1110
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 25: pretty quickly. But yeah, certainly not the economic injection that

1111
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 25: at first reading the headlines might have suggested. It was

1112
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 25: supposed to be okay.

1113
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: So then what has gone wrong here, Jordan? Why has

1114
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: Chris Luxon gone out and done something as kind of

1115
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be unkind and but as stupid

1116
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: as this, I.

1117
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 27: Suspect on the official spat or the government's depart It's

1118
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 27: just lack of due diligence. I mean, we live in

1119
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 27: a world. I've had a theory on this, actually, I reckon.

1120
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 27: You know how in the nineties the power shifted to

1121
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 27: HR I reckon, like for our generation, it's powers shifted

1122
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 27: to comm's apartments. And so it's all just about fields

1123
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 27: and bs and recons rather than actually, you know, numbers

1124
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 27: and truth and because the idea are we going to

1125
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 27: send that half billion? But you know, I'm not going

1126
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 27: to give you a time frame here or you know,

1127
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 27: we'll support not creating a thousand jobs, it's supporting a

1128
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 27: thousand jobs. Well on that basis, you know, so do

1129
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 27: you and I you know, and I'm going to spend

1130
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 27: a million dollars on food at the rest of my lifetime.

1131
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: You know, you're an amazing.

1132
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 27: My organization, you know, stopped the capital gains tax some

1133
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 27: of the doing regime. Well you know, you know, we've

1134
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 27: you know, we've helped get boosted by the economy by

1135
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 27: fifty billion dollars.

1136
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 9: You know. I mean, there's just no.

1137
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: No I think you're going to something.

1138
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 25: Can I suggest though that I mean, clearly this government

1139
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 25: has tied economic growth to its success or failure, right, Like,

1140
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 25: this is the messaging over the last couple of years

1141
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 25: has been growth, growth, growth, growth, growth. This is supposed

1142
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 25: to be the year of growth. You can understand when

1143
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 25: we're on the ninth might as you hang on this

1144
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 25: is this is this is a ligne with growth. Everyone's

1145
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 25: been moaning, it's been a miserable here's a great economic

1146
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 25: headline we can get out there. We can show that

1147
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 25: New Zealand's edgy. And yeah we're up with all this

1148
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 25: peak AI stuff data centers. Woo, who's seven point five

1149
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 25: thirty and that's a big number. Here we go next

1150
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 25: minute that interview. So yeah, I just think it's almost

1151
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 25: like a case of he doth protest too much? You know,

1152
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 25: the PM is so desperately trying to urge everyone. Actually,

1153
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 25: you know, economic conditions are turning. We are seeing the

1154
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 25: first green shoots that you can see why they might

1155
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 25: be produced by this kind of message a bit more

1156
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 25: than they might have otherwise.

1157
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 27: Yeah, hey, Jack, your optima, it's actually a continuation of

1158
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 27: the last government. A common strategy is not a public

1159
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 27: policy strategy.

1160
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I'm going to agree with

1161
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: you on both of you on that because I feel

1162
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: like there is too much of a mirroring going on here,

1163
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: like it feels too just into our do in this

1164
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: government for us to be happy about the situation. Can

1165
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: I just quickly ask you, Jack, what the hell is

1166
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: going on with Tamaki Makota that there's hardly anybody voting?

1167
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: Is it because they're all down at Nadawa here?

1168
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: Nah?

1169
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 25: I think it's just like combination of factors by election,

1170
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 25: mid term kind of mayor people not that engaged with politics. Also,

1171
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 25: one thing I hadn't really considered was the fact that

1172
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 25: the hoardings are kind of competing for space with local

1173
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 25: body government. So I was talking to the candidates the

1174
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 25: other day and they said they've been door knocking and

1175
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 25: people who said the pending nay oh are you running

1176
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 25: for mayor? And I was like no, no, no different election.

1177
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 25: This one's on next weekend as opposed to the.

1178
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: Local body elections in six weeks.

1179
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 25: So yeah. I also think the Maori seats are just

1180
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 25: different to general electorate seats and that it's kind of

1181
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 25: a very tricky electric to get around and to bang

1182
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 25: the drama make some noise about an election. But yeah,

1183
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 25: the numbers so far for early voting are absolutely woeful,

1184
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 25: so turn out certainly decide this thing.

1185
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: It's not good. I actually, Jordan, I want to come

1186
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: back to you on that, to take a break really quickly.

1187
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: It's quarter two the.

1188
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand southebyst International Realty the global leader

1189
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: and Luxury real Estate.

1190
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 2: Right, you're back of the huddle, Jordan Williams and Jack Tame. Jordan,

1191
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: what I want to know from you is in the

1192
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: by election, does a low turnout favor Labor or the

1193
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: Marori Party? Do you think?

1194
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 9: Well?

1195
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 27: I mean, you know, it's pretty embarrassing for Labor, given

1196
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 27: their enormous party machine, particularly in Auckland, to not be

1197
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 27: able to turn out more votes. I mean, if Pennant

1198
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 27: loses this, it's going to be seriously embarrassing. Whereas you know,

1199
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 27: the poor old Marti Party, you know, not having their

1200
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 27: own marias the stuff vote. Sorry to be a polling booth.

1201
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 27: It's clearly having a real impact. We shall you know,

1202
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 27: when is it Saturday? It's we should get the entrum results.

1203
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 9: So do they not? Yeah?

1204
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Going to get the popcorn out now, Jack.

1205
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: The Aussies can keep that neo Nazi can't they.

1206
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 25: Yeah, But whether or not they will there's another question.

1207
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 25: I was looking at the categorization of a five oh one.

1208
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 25: It's kind of quite broad. I think there's like a

1209
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 25: special character test that applies to five oh one. So

1210
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 25: in some cases you have to say prison time are

1211
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 25: you're supposed to say?

1212
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 13: What?

1213
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: I think?

1214
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: He's an AUSSI citizen. It's understood. So then they have

1215
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: to keep them.

1216
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 25: Don't they think get five oh one? I mean, but

1217
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 25: maybe they do. I mean, I can recall I haven't

1218
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 25: there been occasions in the past, like where Australia that

1219
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 25: very exclusive with the idea of but it was just

1220
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 25: different people.

1221
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: It was it was ISIS stuff, and that was pretty

1222
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: way out there.

1223
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 25: Well I think that was actually I mean, I think

1224
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 25: that was a terrible move the ISIS situation on behalf

1225
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 25: of the Australians. But I'm sure it would be an

1226
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 25: extremely political, politically popular move if they were to send

1227
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 25: this guy back across the Tasman and find some legal

1228
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 25: way of doing that. I would just say that if

1229
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 25: they did that, I would hope you would respond by

1230
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 25: seeing in the quash terrorists back over to them.

1231
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: Oh you do a little do a little racist. Yeah,

1232
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: what do you think?

1233
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 27: Of course, you can't renounce someone citizenship and leave them

1234
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 27: state less. But in this case, if it is a

1235
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 27: dual citizens but it was a really easy solution, we

1236
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 27: should get in there first.

1237
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: Actually, this is not a stupid idea. Children in my pocket?

1238
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 2: Stupid children? How is the minister? Is it Erka? Because

1239
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: she gets things done? Will you just petitioner?

1240
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1241
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 27: Maybe you can.

1242
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 25: Year ago, or it might be d I A for

1243
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 25: something like that.

1244
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 27: Yeah, well I just think you couldn't do that without

1245
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 27: the Minister's approval or at least.

1246
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Joe, did you see Jack? What happened at

1247
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: the day care in Sydney?

1248
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 25: Outstanding?

1249
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 9: Outstanding? So how old was the kids?

1250
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: Not sure? But a toddler, So toddler's anything. I would

1251
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: think up to two, so between sort of like six months.

1252
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: Well it's an infant up to one is and it's

1253
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: one to two, so let's say eighteen months.

1254
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 25: Yeah. See, I feel like if it was a really

1255
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 25: young baby, then I'm more sympathetic to Grandpa picking the

1256
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 25: wrong baby, right, because because young babies are kind of

1257
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 25: like suitcases at the airport, and that they all more

1258
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 25: or less look the same right as soon as they

1259
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 25: start joke, Yeah, yeah, well no, you know the new

1260
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 25: thing that that all new parents dore with they think

1261
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 25: their kid is the most beautiful ever, and then you

1262
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 25: look back at the photo six months later and you're like, oh, yeah.

1263
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 27: Anyway, the most beautiful.

1264
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 25: The question, though, I mean, it's easy to beg on Grandpa.

1265
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 25: It's definitely a faux parent.

1266
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 9: His the heart.

1267
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 25: He's probably not getting picked up duties again, but what

1268
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 25: about the daintiers role in all of us? But shouldn't

1269
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 25: they have had a slightly better level of screws?

1270
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: But old on Jack, nobody expects like not which day here?

1271
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: Expects Grandpa to pick up the wrong kid, Like you're

1272
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: not screening, are you? No one would we pick up

1273
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: we mate from Kendy. They don't go hold on a

1274
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: teck which just make sure No, that's yep, that's your

1275
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: one off. You go expect me to get there, right,

1276
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: suld Yeah, lord Jordan, can you imagine though, what the

1277
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: mum like? Imagine how angry mum is that granddad today?

1278
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: She is livid, isn't she?

1279
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 9: The only one to hear?

1280
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 27: Is those people that make this should have gone to

1281
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 27: speak savors ads?

1282
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 9: Oh this is absolutely.

1283
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 27: The question I have is did did he drive?

1284
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1285
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: This is the problem is he was so he was

1286
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: so constant, he was concentrating so intently on getting the

1287
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: flipping car seat working properly, he didn't bother to look

1288
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: at baby's face.

1289
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 9: Maybe it was a rose.

1290
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 27: So because he never now has to do any preschool

1291
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 27: pick up, this is.

1292
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: Called this is called weaponized incompetence. And don't pretend that

1293
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: you boys don't do it children, because we know you do.

1294
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 9: That's at least that.

1295
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, better to call the mouse.

1296
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 27: Which one's the dryer? Which one's the washing machine?

1297
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh you heard that story? Oh Lord, here we go.

1298
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay for that tonight, guys, Thanks very much,

1299
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: Jack James, Jordan Williams the huddle. If you haven't heard

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Speaker 2: that story, that is the phone call that I fielded.

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Speaker 2: And let's say we're dining out on that one now.

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Speaker 2: Eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Art Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Heather, this is what you do with the washing. You

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Speaker 2: put all the colors in with the whites, and then

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Speaker 2: you wash them, and then you throw them in the

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Speaker 2: dryer and you never get asked to do the washing again.

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Speaker 2: That's from Mark, of course, it's from Mark. Now what

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Speaker 2: that what's what that's called? Maru is weaponized in competence.

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Speaker 2: Now do you need me to explain that to you?

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Speaker 2: So the ladies lessen up? This might this might this

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Speaker 2: is a life hack. It may change your life when

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Speaker 2: the dudes do things like that. Mark knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: It's doing it deliberately because then he nevestin and it's

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Speaker 2: it's basically that thing where they go, ah, how do

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Speaker 2: you how? How do you like, how do you mop

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Speaker 2: a floor? Which bucket? Which bucket do you use? What's

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Speaker 2: the stuff that you put in the bucket for mopping

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Speaker 2: the floor? Which mop do you want me to?

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Speaker 25: You know?

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Speaker 2: You know that make it so complicated that in the

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Speaker 2: end you go, oh, don't worry about it and you

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Speaker 2: do it yourself, Like how often have you done that?

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Speaker 2: You're like, I don't worry about that's weaponized and competence

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Speaker 2: and it's designed to make you do it yourself. So

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Speaker 2: what you want to do is play them at their

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Speaker 2: own game and just be like that's cool, and then

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Speaker 2: you know, take I don't know, I mean, it's going

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Speaker 2: to ruin your whites though, so you have to live

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Speaker 2: with that. Here, I took the wrong cat home from

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Speaker 2: the Catteri once. It was a berman, and I had

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Speaker 2: it all day. It took a lot of convincing from

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Speaker 2: the Catteri people to get the wrong cat back, and

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Speaker 2: then they gave me the right cat. For these things happened,

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Speaker 2: at least it was a cat, not a human this time. Listen, Sweden,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm outraged on behalf of the people of Sweden.

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Speaker 2: What's happened is Sweden has put together like a cultural

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Speaker 2: canon thing. They've got about one hundred things that they

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Speaker 2: think have formed Sweden's culture and history. And what they

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Speaker 2: want to do is then they give it to the

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Speaker 2: new arrivals and they go, oh, welcome to Sweden. This

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Speaker 2: is everything you need to know, like like an orientation

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Speaker 2: of Sweden, and this will basically help you to navigate

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Speaker 2: Swedish culture and become a Sweden. And it's got everything

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Speaker 2: that you would expect. It's got Peppy long stocking in there,

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Speaker 2: it's got Ikea in there, it's got the right to roam,

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Speaker 2: which is a Swedish thing. Paternity leave that's a Swedish thing.

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Speaker 2: The Nobel Prize. Blah blah blah left out. Abba left out.

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Speaker 2: Abba left out. It would appear everything from nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: five onwards because time stopped in Sweden in nineteen seventy five.

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Speaker 2: It's weird, but they left out Abber. Now are you

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Speaker 2: not as out? Like so An's tried to roll the

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Speaker 2: thing with me where he was like, oh, that's because

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Speaker 2: everybody everybody in the world knows Abba. You don't know

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Speaker 2: what everybody knows Abba. Some people come from underneath the Tulliban.

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Speaker 2: They don't know Abber. They've been, they like they've been.

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Speaker 2: They have no idea what Abba is because they don't

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Speaker 2: even know what freedom is, some of the ladies. So

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Speaker 2: they're going to get there be like, what is this

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Speaker 2: amazing thing? Anyway, I'm offended on behalf of the people

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Speaker 2: of Sweden because I think you and I can agree

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Speaker 2: that Sweden has not produced anything better than Abba. Abba

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Speaker 2: is the best thing that Sweden has ever done.

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Speaker 26: Enjoy keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 3: The Business Hour.

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Speaker 1: With hand A Duplessyles for Trust at Home Insurance Solutions

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Speaker 1: News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Said be evening coming up in the next hour. Milford

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Speaker 2: Asset Management on the winners and the losers of the

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Speaker 2: reporting season. Janatim Charine is going to talk us through

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Speaker 2: the building regulation overhaul and why that might get a

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Speaker 2: bit wrinkly. And also Gavin Gray is with us out

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Speaker 2: of the UK right now at a seven past six.

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Speaker 2: Now National is holding the line on the Paris Climate

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Speaker 2: Agreement Act in New Zealand. First are both advocating for

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Speaker 2: New Zealand to quit the deal unless its conditions significantly improved,

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Speaker 2: but Prime Minister Chris Luxon says leaving Paris would be

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Speaker 2: the fastest way to hurt our farmers.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Simon Watts is the National Party Climate Change minister.

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Speaker 9: Hi Simon, Hey, Heather, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you. Thank you. How would

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Speaker 2: it hurt our farmers?

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Speaker 9: Look, I don't believe it will hurt our farmers. The

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Speaker 9: Paris Agreement doesn't any sanction out. Well, well, look, we

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Speaker 9: have no plans to pull out. As a government. Were

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Speaker 9: committed to the targets and we're committed to the Paris Agreement.

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Speaker 2: Chris Luxon says if we pull out, it would hurt

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Speaker 2: our farmers.

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Speaker 9: How well, the reality is is that we are a

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Speaker 9: major export nation. I've just come back from Beijing on Friday,

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Speaker 9: speaking with a Chinese minister that are committed to the

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Speaker 9: Paris Agreement. They expect other countries simon come off it.

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Speaker 2: They're building coal fired plants right now that there's that,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, they want our protein. They are

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Speaker 2: not going to punish us if we pull out.

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Speaker 9: No, I didn't say that. I'm just saying that they

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Speaker 9: are committed to the Paris Agreement. They're coming out with

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Speaker 9: the new NDC targets like we have.

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Speaker 2: It's going to hurt us though.

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Speaker 9: Well, we're not part of the broader commitment to an

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Speaker 9: international agreement, and right now international trade is highly volatile. Well,

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Speaker 9: we are into country that wants to be putting that

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Speaker 9: type of stuff at risk.

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Speaker 2: We're getting punished anyway, even if we are committed to

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Speaker 2: whatever Globally. We've just copped tariff. So what's the point

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Speaker 2: in being part of stuff for trade reasons? I mean,

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Speaker 2: tell me, tell me, because what Chris Luxen has said

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Speaker 2: is that we get hurt if we pull out. So

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Speaker 2: how do we get hurt?

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Speaker 9: Well, the reality is we've got a number of our

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Speaker 9: free trade agreements and international agreements with other countries that

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Speaker 9: we export to that have considerations, requirements for us to

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Speaker 9: meet our climate obligations.

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Speaker 2: And what happens we don't pulling out and by.

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Speaker 9: Pulling out a Paris that we put at risk some

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Speaker 9: of those trade agreements. And to be honest, hither as

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Speaker 9: an export lead recovery driven by our primary sector, I

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Speaker 9: want to be putting of thosements.

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Speaker 2: Ask what happens in those trade agreements? What triggers do

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Speaker 2: they pull to punish us if we pull out?

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Speaker 9: Well, there's there's a variety of means that they could

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Speaker 9: and not saying that they would, but they can in

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Speaker 9: terms of the clauses, and potentially it's a reassessment of

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Speaker 9: that agreement, and a reassessment of that agreement means volatility

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Speaker 9: and uncertainty and.

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Speaker 2: Don't about volatility is assignment. You're saying to me that

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Speaker 2: some of these agreements could be abandoned all together if

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Speaker 2: we pull out of out of the Paris agreement, the

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Speaker 2: devils and.

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Speaker 9: The detail in the context of what countries would agree in.

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Speaker 5: What they would do, but that in some.

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Speaker 2: Of those agreements too, that they they could abandon the

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Speaker 2: agreement all together if we pull out of Paris.

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Speaker 9: There's commitments within our agreements that means that we need

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Speaker 9: to remain part of those international agreements for the climate.

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Speaker 2: Is which agreements might be abandoned all together because we

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Speaker 2: pull out out of Paris.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm not saying that, but I am saying that, and.

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Speaker 2: That's what you inferred. So which agreements were all apart?

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Speaker 9: The EU Agreement and the UK agreement have clauses within

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Speaker 9: them that means we have obligations in regards to our

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Speaker 9: climate changed and either of.

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Speaker 2: Those twoment yet no totally, and might either of them

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Speaker 2: be abandoned by the other party all together if we

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Speaker 2: pull out of Paris.

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Speaker 9: I can't speak on Batador and the the worst thing, but.

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Speaker 2: Assiment, what's the worst thing that these countries or blocks

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Speaker 2: could do to us under the agreement if we pull.

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Speaker 9: Out, Well, technically they could invoke those clauses and say

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Speaker 9: that we're in breach of those agreements and they want

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Speaker 9: to reassess that agreement, and you know that could go

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Speaker 9: as far as you know, potentially some form of sanction

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Speaker 9: or other aspects. So these are the serious stuff herether

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Speaker 9: in Ano, this culture.

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Speaker 2: Listen, no, I understand. I want to work through this

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Speaker 2: detail with you, okay, So let's just stick to the

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Speaker 2: matter at hand. So now let's look at where we export.

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Speaker 2: We export primarily and when we're talking about the affected

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Speaker 2: products here, let's say dairy we export primarily to the

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Speaker 2: US and China, neither of whom are going to do

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Speaker 2: this to us. So were you telling me that we

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Speaker 2: are worried about two actually quite small markets being the

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Speaker 2: UK and EU Instead, that's what we're focusing on as

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Speaker 2: these two small markets. We're not so worried about the

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Speaker 2: big ones, right, the big ones are not under threat hither.

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Speaker 9: I was in China in Beijing on Friday. I was

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Speaker 9: face to face with a bilateral with my counterpart, Chinese minister.

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Speaker 9: We were talking about the fact that the needs to

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Speaker 9: be part of the Paris Agreement was an alignment between

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Speaker 9: our two countries, and the minister was clear with me

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Speaker 9: that the China are now looking at the relationship between

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Speaker 9: climate change and trade as being into linkages.

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Speaker 2: That is pretty is there in our sta with China.

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Speaker 9: In regards to our climate commitments. There's commitments within that

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Speaker 9: agreement as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, And what could they do to us if

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Speaker 2: they decided to punish us?

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Speaker 9: Well, again, there was no indication that that.

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Speaker 2: Would be the reason I'm asking you that, yes.

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Speaker 9: The agreements do have clauses, and if they wanted to

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Speaker 9: trigger those, the really is climate change now here there

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Speaker 9: is a trade consideration and can be used by other

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Speaker 9: countries as a trade barrier. And just with the volatility

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Speaker 9: in the trade market at the moment, the world's pretty

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Speaker 9: uncertain at the moment. And to be honest, we don't

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Speaker 9: want to be shaking the tin any here.

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Speaker 2: We don't, I understand. But what I want to be to,

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Speaker 2: what I want to get to with this line of

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Speaker 2: questioning is what I want to understand is do the

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Speaker 2: risks that you are outlining to me outweigh the costs

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Speaker 2: that the farmers are bearing at the moment?

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Speaker 9: Well, the Paris Agreement doesn't impose sanctions or financial penalties

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Speaker 9: on us as it stands, so, but the risk of

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Speaker 9: putting those trades.

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Speaker 2: Understand that too much. I understand how this works. But

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Speaker 2: there are costs, and you know that there are costs

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Speaker 2: that farmers are bearing. However, it is whether it is

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Speaker 2: through the increased cost of electricity or whatever. Do the

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Speaker 2: costs that the farmers bear is that outweighed? Which of

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Speaker 2: the two is greater? The risk from us pulling out

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Speaker 2: all the costs that are currently bearing under the thing

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Speaker 2: and and stand and stand to bear.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Look, either the risks to our trade is a

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Speaker 9: much greater and higher risk than the implications around the

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Speaker 9: cost component that feeds through an You.

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Speaker 2: Guys quantifind this. Have you quantified it? Have you have

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Speaker 2: you done the sub.

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Speaker 9: Yes, we've quantified and every decision we send that in

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Speaker 9: the recent one. Can I send it to you or

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Speaker 9: it'll be in the public domain as part of the

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Speaker 9: canbinet agreements. But we have economic analysis and we did

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Speaker 9: that when we made the NDC agreement at the beginning

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Speaker 9: of this year.

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Speaker 3: Actually, we had the economic.

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Speaker 9: Analysis as part of that really important we look at it.

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Speaker 9: Have you to get it to you after this, old Heather,

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 9: but it is in the public domain. I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 25: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, really quickly, on another subject, when are you making

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Speaker 2: the announcement on the fix for the electricity sector?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Look, we're taking that through with cabinet. I'm in

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Speaker 9: Australia with Minister Willis right now and meeting with energy

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 9: ministers and the Australian Treasurer today. We've got that coming

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Speaker 9: pretty soon. But we're working pretty we know that's we

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Speaker 9: want to I've always said that we want to get

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Speaker 9: it out quarter three, so we're aiming for the end

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Speaker 9: of September.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey Simon, thank you, always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: That Simon, what's the climate change minister? I don't know

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Speaker 2: about you, but I'm starting to think that these threats

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01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: are not real. What do you think? It's just like

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: the worst case scenario, absolute worst case scenario. They might

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: punish us by triggering something in the fta worst case scenario,

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Speaker 2: but probably not actually going to happen. Is it quarter

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Speaker 2: past six?

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, empowered by news dog Zebbi. Whether it's macro,

1540
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 1: microbe or just plain economics, it's all on the Business

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duplicy Hellen and has contructed home insurance

1542
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: solutions US talks.

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: That'd be evening here that myself and a group of

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: farmers had a meeting with the Beef and Lamb Export

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01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 2: of two weeks ago, and when we asked if any

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01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: of our importers or their importer, sorry, we're concerned about

1547
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 2: our climate stance, they said it never gets mentioned. They

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: just want our protein I'm starting to believe that's the case.

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 2: Eighteen past six. Now, a busy reporting season has just

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01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: finished for the ins and exlisted companies. We'll talk about

1551
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 2: the winners and the losers from the last four weeks.

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: Jeremy Hutton from Milford Asset Management is with us right now. Hey, Jeremy,

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: good evening.

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 28: Heather held on.

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Speaker 2: Very well, thank you. One of the big winners has

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Speaker 2: got to be A two Milk.

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01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,879
Speaker 28: Yeah, A two Milk. They had another bumper reporting season.

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01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 28: Investors absolutely loved it. They sent the share price up

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Speaker 28: over twenty one percent in August alone, and the stock

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Speaker 28: is now up sixty percent so far yet to date

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Speaker 28: in twenty twenty five. The A two Milk story, it

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 28: really can be boiled down to the fact that the

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Speaker 28: company is doing really well in a tough market. And

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Speaker 28: we know Chinese birth rates have been declining for a

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Speaker 28: number of years and that is a substantial headwind for

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Speaker 28: infant formula players and A two as well to overcome.

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Speaker 28: But now by market share, A two is the fourth

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Speaker 28: biggest player in the massive Chinese infant formula market. It's

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Speaker 28: bigger than huge competitors like Nesle and me Johnson and

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Speaker 28: other large Chinese and Western brands as well. So A

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Speaker 28: two continue to perform really well in a tough market.

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Speaker 2: Market really loved that transaction, the purchase of the plant

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Speaker 2: in Poconoa.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, that's right, So the acquisition of the local Ushilediry

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Speaker 28: plant and Pocono The markets got really excited about this.

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 28: Now it wasn't so much about the financials of the deal,

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01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 28: but more that the site comes with these extra China

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01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 28: market registrations and these are effectively a license to operate

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Speaker 28: your brand or product in the Chinese market. And A

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Speaker 28: two they currently only have one of these registered China

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Speaker 28: label products and it has been holding them back versus competitors,

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 28: they all have multiple products in the market. So they

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Speaker 28: get these two extra slots from the Poconoa plant and

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Speaker 28: that means A two you know, they can continue to grow,

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Speaker 28: bring out some new products and innovate and really de

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Speaker 28: risk the brand story a lot here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, on the other side of the equation, what happened

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Speaker 2: with Ebos?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, Ebos a very tough start for their new CEO.

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Speaker 28: In his first update, the share price was down over

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Speaker 28: twenty percent, and this is very surprising for Eboss. It

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 28: is a great company. It's performed really well and always

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01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 28: consistently grows, has done so over the past decade on

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01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 28: the nz X, but their forward guidance this time round

1595
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 28: for the next financial year was for flat earnings and

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01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 28: the market got really caught off side by this. They

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Speaker 28: had to downgrade a lot of their outlooks for earnings,

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 28: but one could say it's a bit of a harsh

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 28: reaction as there is still confidence in the EBOS story.

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Speaker 28: Their core businesses of Australian pharmacies and animal care products

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Speaker 28: are still growing reasonly, reasonably well medium term. But sometimes,

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 28: particularly when it's a new CEO in the chair, the

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01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 28: market can shoot first and ask questions later, particularly if

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 28: they get the framing or the pits wrong.

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: Now now that the Reserve Bank is leaning on reducing

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01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: the OCR or what's the outlook for the rest of

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: the year do you think?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, supportive Reserve Bank and OCR interest rate tracks should

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Speaker 28: be positive for the New Zealand market. The local market

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Speaker 28: has lagged key pairs substantially this year, but we are

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Speaker 28: considered a defensive, yield driven market. We don't have the

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Speaker 28: racy tech or AI stocks like they do overseas. We've

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Speaker 28: got more solid, high dividend payers like telecoms, companies, infrastructure,

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01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 28: real estate, and these should perform well in a falling

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Speaker 28: interest rate environment. And then secondly i'll just call out

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Speaker 28: also the cyclical sectors, which is sort of the next leg.

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 28: Construction companies, retail exposed companies. They've really had a tough

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Speaker 28: time as we know in New Zealand, but again should

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 28: start to perform better when some of the economic activity

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Speaker 28: and data starts to improve.

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Speaker 9: Good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jeremy, thanks as always for talking us through that.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Hutton, Milford Acid Management. Heather, I have to disagree

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Speaker 2: with you. Abba are the absolute worst thing that Sweden

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01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 2: has produced. Try the tennis players beyond Borg blah blah blah, Heather.

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01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: Sweden gave us the three point safety belt and Volvo,

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01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: which is pretty great. Heather. The chef from the Muppets

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01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: was from Sweden. I don't think that counts as a

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01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: Swedish expert, but I see. But I appreciate what you're

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 2: doing there, Heather. What about Volvo? They are great? Heather?

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Speaker 2: What about Greta. I don't think Greta is the best

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Speaker 2: thing that Sweden's ever produced. Actually I do want well,

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Speaker 2: if they cut the if they cut the cannon off

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01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: at nineteen seventy five, not even Greta has made it

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 2: in for the new migrants to learn about. And I

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01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: would say that the new migrants need to school up

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: real fast on Greta because she'll be hassling everyone all

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01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: the time. They'll be like, who's that annoying child on

1639
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 2: the Oh, that's Greta. I learned about it in the Cannon.

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: I think it would be helpful.

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 16: Six twenty three, everything from SMS to the big corporates,

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 16: The Business Hour with Heather duplessy Ellen and Maz for

1643
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 16: Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be jenatib Cherani is going to be with us.

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01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: She reckons that the building regulation overhaul is not going

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: to go as smoothly as the government may hope. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: she'll talk us through the details shortly. It's six twenty six,

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Speaker 2: got the Showburz News for you. Your what you're listening

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: to is some music by somebody called mister Fantasy. There's

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01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: talking about himself there, mister Fantasy. Anyway, we think that

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01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: that's actually kJ Upper, You know kJ Upper, who's the

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: key we actor who was on Shortland Street. Really handsome

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01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: guy dyed his hair orange. When he started got that

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: role playing Archie in the Riverdale series over in the US,

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01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: and started talking with an American accent. It was like

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: a grim reboot of the Archie comics. Anyway, turns out

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01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: he might be the guy with the alter ego on

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01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: TikTok called mister Fantasy, and that song you just heard

1659
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: as his debut single. What's notable about mister Fantasy is

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Speaker 2: it's never been confirmed that he is kJ Upper, but

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: he is what kJ Upper would look like if kJ

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01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: Upper put a fake black wagon and some fake teeth

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01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: and then spoke of a terrible British accent. He's gone viral,

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: this mister Fantasy for making weird social media videos like this.

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Speaker 5: I am watching you very closely.

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking at your profiles and I will catch you

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: in the act if you are so inclined. So, I mean,

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01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: that's weird, isn't it. But anyway, so ants, I'm Sam,

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: the producer. Hoo's the one who's across all of the

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01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: young people's stuff. He reckons it's definitely kJ Upper because

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Speaker 2: kJ Upper hasn't got any work at the moment. It

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01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: is probably bought in California. Mister Fantasy already has three

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01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: hundred thousand TikTok followers. Promises there's more music to come,

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Speaker 2: so stay tuned and if you want to see it

1675
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,919
Speaker 2: the dancing, the dancing is special, go and enjoy it.

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01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: News is next, super letu flu.

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Speaker 3: Mister Leo, I haven't you.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1679
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: Of the Business Hour with the Duple c Allen and

1680
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: maz for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News Talk sad.

1681
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 3: B don't you win the body?

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01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: I can do this all we we'll be there to

1683
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: do the morning. The baby bons deep dy. Kevin Grady's

1684
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 2: going to be with us out of the UK shortly.

1685
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: By the way, this is a fascinating thing that's just happened.

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01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: In England. They've banned under sixteen year olds from being

1687
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: able to buy energy drinks like a Red Bull, and

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: the reason for it like, imagine that I was wolfling

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: those down love the v that's to this day. I

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 2: walked past a Cannoby and I go, m yum. I'd

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01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: love that and I have self control now, but jeez,

1692
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: I used to drink them. They fuel obesity, can cause

1693
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: sleep problems and leave kids unable to concentrate twenty four

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01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: away from seven. Now there are homes that concerns rather

1695
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: that the government's proposed building overhaul might leave homeowners in

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01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: the lurch. Essentially, what the government's doing is they want

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Speaker 2: to remove some of the responsibility for defective buildings from

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: councils and instead make the builders and the trades and

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01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: so on responsible for their work. But that is where

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01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: the plan hits a snag. Genative Traine as The Herald's

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01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: Wellington Business editor and with us hello janee hi Heather.

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: So in this case, the trade's would have to be insured.

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: But that's the problem, right whether they can actually get insurance.

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01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 19: That's the thing. So if you are shifting the liability

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 19: to the people who cause the problem, the trades and

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01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 19: so on, that's all fair and well. But these tradees

1707
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 19: don't necessarily have deep pockets. So if you have a

1708
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 19: problem with your with your home, you chase your builder.

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 19: Your builder can say that we're liquidating the company, or

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01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 19: the builder can just say, look we can't pay, we

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 19: can't pay. We're just two guys and we can't pay

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 19: you out. So then I guess you go. Well, hopefully

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 19: the builder has insurance. All the builders offered you some

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 19: sort of guarantee, warranty or whatever on the building work.

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01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 19: The government is looking at when it makes this change,

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01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 19: it's looking at making these consumer protections mandatory. But I

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 19: spoke to someone from the insurance industry, Stanford Insurance Director

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 19: Duncan Colebrook. He's one of the guys that provides this

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01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 19: insurance cover for the builders, and he's saying, look, we're

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01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 19: not going to just ensure any old builder. You know,

1721
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 19: they have strong underwriting processes, and of course insurance companies

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01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 19: don't want to lose money. They can't just ensure everyone.

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01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 19: So the insurance industry doesn't seem to be that keen

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01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 19: on what the government's proposing because you know, they're not

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01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 19: going to provide blanket cover for every trade, every builder,

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01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 19: every building.

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Speaker 2: So what's the alternative.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, this is all still being worked through,

1729
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 19: but as it stands, it seems like there's a risk

1730
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 19: that the homeowner will be exposed because if it is

1731
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 19: not entirely ensured and the pockets of these builders and

1732
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 19: things aren't that deep, then it could leave you in

1733
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 19: the lurch. Duncan Colebrook, he from Stanford Insurance, said to me, well,

1734
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,480
Speaker 19: you know, if the government wants to make the stuff mandatory,

1735
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 19: like consumer protections mandatory, then maybe it needs to step

1736
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 19: in and provide some sort of insurance cover. But you

1737
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 19: know that he made the point that is the exact

1738
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 19: thing the government is trying to avoid. You know, it's

1739
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 19: trying to get rid of their liability on councils, which

1740
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 19: kind of comes back on the government. So you're really

1741
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 19: it does leave you in a sort of scratching your head.

1742
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 19: Another insurance Brokerray spoke to Ben Recard. He said, well,

1743
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 19: you know, insurance are hesitant about providing this kind of cover.

1744
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 19: You know, it's specialist cover because normally an insurance company

1745
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 19: provides cover for a year, like for your house, it

1746
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 19: looks at the risk, provides cover a year next year,

1747
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 19: reassesses changes the premium, does it again. But this is

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 19: this type of stuff is for like ten years. Yeah,

1749
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 19: you know it's quite risky ten years. There's some hesitancy there.

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01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: But this goes some way to explaining why the government

1751
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: only half announced the thing, right, because we were expecting

1752
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: an announcement of yes, we're changing where the responsibility lies

1753
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: and this is what's going to back it up, but

1754
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: we only got the changing of the responsibility, not the

1755
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: backing up because it's too complicated.

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01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 19: Well exactly. So the theory is nice, let's not cripple counsels.

1757
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 19: You know, with the leaky heime saga many years ago,

1758
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 19: councils get left with this big bill, rate payers end

1759
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 19: up paying for it. It sounds nice. We all like that,

1760
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 19: make the bill, make the naughty people pay. But there's

1761
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 19: some fundamental details there.

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01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 4: You know.

1763
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 19: If the insurance industry is not rushing in to say

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01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 19: that's that's fine with us, then I still have major

1765
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 19: questions of exactly how this is going to work.

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01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally all right, let's see what they come up with.

1767
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait for Chris Pink to figure it out.

1768
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: Thank you so much to know I appreciate it. Atib Shranny,

1769
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: The Herald's Wellington Business editor, twenty away from Heather duplicy

1770
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 2: Heather reading between the lines. This is ree Simon. What's

1771
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 2: at the start of the hour? Heather reading between the lines.

1772
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: I think what the Minister was implying is in a

1773
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: fragile trade environment, pulling out of the Climate Agreement may

1774
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: give our partners an excuse to shift trade agreement seems

1775
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 2: to be it's not actually purely about Paris at all,

1776
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: but about not risk, about not risk and giving that

1777
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: excuse to other nations that we trade with. That was

1778
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: my take on it. Joy, You might be right, actually,

1779
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: and I think, Look, I while I do think I'm

1780
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 2: not I'm not pure, like I'm oh gosh, what am

1781
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: I trying to say, I'm not. I'm not so ideologically

1782
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 2: wedded to the to the thing that I'm unreasonable about it. Right,

1783
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: So I do think that that Paris is bad for

1784
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: us as a country, and I don't think Paris is working,

1785
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: and I do think we need to rethink it and

1786
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: probably pull out. But I also understand you don't want

1787
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: to be the first country that does that. You want

1788
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: to be sort of middle of the pack so you

1789
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: don't draw any attention. So what you want to do

1790
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: is you want to wait for the Tories to take

1791
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: over government in the UK and then they pull out

1792
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: and then other countries pull out. You want to you

1793
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 2: want to kind of flee undercover, do you know what

1794
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean? But we have to prepare, like this is

1795
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 2: what John Key said, be a fast follower. And I

1796
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: think in that case, we want to be a fast follower.

1797
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 11: Now.

1798
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but I didn't

1799
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 2: know this until today. Nick Kurrios is playing tennis against

1800
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: Arena Sabi Sabilenka, whose name I should absolutely be able

1801
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: to pronounce because she is the number one tennis player

1802
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: in the world for women. Anyway, Nick is going to

1803
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: play her. They're going to play a Battle of the Sexes,

1804
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: which is going to be set in On Kong next year.

1805
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: The thing about Nick, though, is Nick knows how to

1806
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: be a dick, doesn't he. So he's not just going

1807
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: to go and play tennis against her without sort of

1808
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: racking it up and getting as much attention as possible.

1809
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: So he's he's come out all mister confident and he's

1810
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: done like an interview on YouTube, and he said, even

1811
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: though he hasn't played tennis since Miami opened and I

1812
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: think March this year, so he hasn't played tennis for

1813
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 2: about six months, he says, she's not going to beat me.

1814
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: Do you think I really have to try to try

1815
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent? I will try because I'm representing the

1816
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 2: men's side. I think I'll win six to two. Then

1817
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: he complimented her for being a good character, but then

1818
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: also appeared surprised that she genuinely thinks she's gonna win.

1819
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: He says, our serfs referring to men, he says our serves.

1820
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Women can't really return those, and then we can just

1821
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: chip and dropshot. Now this has just got the women

1822
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 2: so angry. Let me tell you, women are furious about today.

1823
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: They're like, what an arrogant guy. He can't say this stuff.

1824
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 2: She's the number one in the world. He hasn't even

1825
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: played tennis for six months. I'm sorry, ladies, my money's

1826
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: on Nick, Like you know what, Like even men can't

1827
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: return men's serves, like that's the thing. Even male tennis

1828
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 2: players cannot always return the serve of a male tennis

1829
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: player because those boys just throw that lob that ball

1830
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: up and then smash it down. So I don't know,

1831
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't rate her chancewers. But let's see how it goes,

1832
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, Let's see because he does he I mean,

1833
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: he might get sort of like halfway through the game

1834
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: and his pack atanty, which would be probably the best

1835
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: outcome for her. We'll see in CEA just really quickly.

1836
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen that this has been

1837
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: going on today, but Eric Stanford's written a piece defending NCO,

1838
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: defending why we need to drop n CIA, and there's

1839
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 2: all this chat about NCAA again today. Do you want

1840
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: to know how easily kids game NCEEA. There's a yarn

1841
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: that popped up today. A nineteen year old has talked

1842
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: to a media outlet about about how he did it.

1843
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: He only just passed NCEEA level three because he got

1844
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: credits from his part time job at MacDonald's. That is

1845
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: how he passed nca His part time job at McDonald's

1846
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: got him eighty level three unit credits, which sounds like

1847
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: a lot. I don't know, because I didn't do I

1848
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: got a proper qualification, not this crap. He got eighty

1849
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: level three unit credits across things like food safety, food

1850
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 2: preparation and customer service. I mean, come on, that's not

1851
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: what we want for our kids. We want better than that.

1852
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 2: We'll go to the UK next sixteen away from seven.

1853
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 3: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

1854
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: It's Heather dupiic Ellen with the Business Hour and Maz

1855
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: Trusted at Home Endurance Solutions news talks.

1856
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: It'd be I've totally forgotten to tell you I bought

1857
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: grant Robertson's book, so I'm going to have to tell

1858
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: you about this before that. She entered the show fourteen

1859
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: away from six. Gavin Gray seven rather seven Kevin Gray

1860
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: are UK correspondents with us. Elogevin, Hi there, okay, so

1861
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 2: you bend the energy drinks for the kids.

1862
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 29: Yes, the government is at least planning to do this

1863
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 29: and it's going out for consultation, but I think it's

1864
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 29: likely to be nodded through. There is huge concern that

1865
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 29: has been huge concern about these high energy drinks such

1866
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 29: as Red Bull, Monster and Prime. Many supermarkets have introduced

1867
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 29: a voluntary ban already, but up to a third of

1868
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 29: children in the UK are thought to consume these types

1869
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 29: of drinks every week now. Some popular drinks contain more

1870
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 29: caffeine than two cups of coffee, and the TV chef

1871
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 29: Jamie Oliver has repeatedly been warning about the dangers and

1872
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 29: disruption that energy drinks can cause. He said children are

1873
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 29: going into school bouncing off the walls having had energy

1874
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 29: drinks for breakfast.

1875
01:30:58,960 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 5: He said, we're.

1876
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 29: Talking about three or four shots of espresso in one

1877
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 29: of these things, and loads of sugar, so it's an

1878
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,839
Speaker 29: absolute nightmare. He's posted and we do know excessive consumption

1879
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 29: is linked to headaches and sleep problems. Too much caffeine

1880
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 29: can cause a rapid heart rate, abnormal heart rhythms, and seizures.

1881
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 29: But this is the first time the government stepped in

1882
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 29: and they really do think that banning anyone under the

1883
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 29: age of sixteen from mind these drinks is the first step.

1884
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: How do they stop them buying them from vending machines?

1885
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, that's going to be the thing.

1886
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 29: I think obviously the problem is trying to work out

1887
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 29: where children are buying them or where they might be

1888
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 29: able to access them, and then banning the vending machines

1889
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 29: from those areas.

1890
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's pretty it's going to be very, very

1891
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: difficult to police.

1892
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now what is this chep who writes Father Ted

1893
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: actually said, well, this is.

1894
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 29: A story that's causing major actions here in the UK

1895
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 29: and it would be almost like a scene out of

1896
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 29: one of his beloved productions. So Ted, Father Ted co

1897
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 29: created Graham Linhan had been arrested a Heater airport, he says,

1898
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 29: by five armed police officers after he stepped off a plane.

1899
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 29: As I said, famous for co creating Father Ted, the

1900
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 29: It Crowd of Black Books a well known comedia, comedy

1901
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 29: and writer, and he said that he had been arriving

1902
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 29: on this flight from the US and said in an

1903
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 29: article that officials became concerned for his health after taking

1904
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 29: his blood pressure and then took him to hospital. Anyway,

1905
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 29: he was all right police. They were only saying a

1906
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 29: man in his fifties was arrested and this looks like

1907
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 29: an article that he wrote, or some posts rather on

1908
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 29: x that he wrote about his views challenging trans identified

1909
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 29: males in a female only space. The first post from

1910
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 29: his feed called it a violent abusive act for a

1911
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 29: trans identified male to be in a female only space.

1912
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 29: He suggested maker seeing call the cops in off all

1913
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 29: us fellows punch him in the balls was his comment there.

1914
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 29: And this led to people saying this is a hate speech,

1915
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 29: this is a hate crime, and a calling for him

1916
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 29: to be prosecuted. Well, the police have said now that

1917
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 29: he's being looked at as it were, and potentially facing

1918
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 29: a separate charge of harassment, due to appear in court tomorrow.

1919
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 29: He has received a lot of support though, both from

1920
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 29: opposition MPs but also JK. Rowling stepped into it, claiming

1921
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 29: that his arrest was suggested the UK is now a

1922
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 29: totalitarian state.

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01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Now, jeez, I'll tell you what. Getting support from New

1924
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Zealand as well by the looks of things. Just really quickly,

1925
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: Why are all these people in AfD dying?

1926
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 29: Yeah, very interesting, but this because there are elections in

1927
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 29: a very large northwestern state in Germany coming up and

1928
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 29: the AfD, the Alternative for Right, the Alternative for Deutschle

1929
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 29: and that is the far right party, is putting forward

1930
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 29: a number of candidates really hopes to do well. But

1931
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 29: it is evidence that candidates have died in recent weeks.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 29: The police are saying there is no evidence of any

1934
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 29: foul play, but of course social media has gone into

1935
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Speaker 29: absolute overspin here about this, and there are claims and

1936
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 29: counterclaims about what's been going on Elon Truss plus because

1937
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 29: Elon Muskramer has now intervened as well, saying to Germans,

1938
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,919
Speaker 29: either Germany votes AfD or it's the end of Germany.

1939
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Speaker 29: So yeah, feelings running high about all of this.

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Speaker 17: Wow.

1941
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Speaker 2: Okaykevin, thanks very much, appreciate it. Gavian Gray UK cars

1942
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Speaker 2: gone right. We'll deal with Grant Robertson's book next nine

1943
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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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1946
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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, I've got quite a few ticks

1947
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 2: on the builders either. If a builder can't get insurance,

1948
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 2: you really don't want to have them as a builder.

1949
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: Well that's fair, except somebody ticks through and said that

1950
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 2: What also happens is you've got the builders who just

1951
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: do like they retire and then they just potter around

1952
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 2: like our builder and the coromandel is fantastic, but he

1953
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 2: doesn't want to do it all the time. He just

1954
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 2: wants to kind of potter and do it it is

1955
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: and does he want and so he's kind of working

1956
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 2: a bit here and there over the summer, you know,

1957
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: or with the winter when people are there, WAE. But

1958
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 2: does he want to take out insurance for ten years

1959
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 2: and keep paying that if he's just pottering around? No,

1960
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 2: So there's your problem, especially if the insurance is expensive.

1961
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Speaker 2: Oh and also I need to tell you that a

1962
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 2: US Congressional panel released a whole bunch of Epstein documents today,

1963
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 2: thirty three thousand pages flight logs, jail surveillance, video, court filings,

1964
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 2: audio recordings, emails. But ninety seven percent of it they

1965
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 2: Reckon has already in the public domain, most of it

1966
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: isn't new, and it doesn't have the missing minute. Gab

1967
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: asked them, I sang, man, not right. So I went

1968
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: to the book shop yesterday and I bought Grant's book

1969
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 2: because I thought, you've got to you got to read it.

1970
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do it so you don't have to

1971
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 2: do it. So I've got Grant's book, and it was

1972
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 2: I thought, forty dollars for a paperback is a lot.

1973
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 2: But then Georgia, who is sits next to me in

1974
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 2: the office and seems to know everything, like it's amazing

1975
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 2: she knows. She just pipes up with random facts. She's like,

1976
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: forty dollars for a paperback, that's a memoirs. Really not

1977
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 2: a lot of memoirs are cost a lot more nowadays

1978
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 2: then your average paperback. And long, okay, okay, I'll just

1979
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 2: take that. I did think it was ironic, though. I

1980
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 2: think I thought for a pair of socialists, Grant and

1981
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 2: just Cinda really do like making the dollars, don't they.

1982
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 2: Grant didn't turn up at at Otago University and go no,

1983
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 2: I really care about redistribution of wealth, so please don't

1984
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 2: pay me seven hundred thousand dollars a year. He went, yep,

1985
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: thanks anyway. So I've got the book, and I'm happy

1986
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: to say it's definitely smaller than just Cinder's. From what

1987
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 2: I understand, it's an easier read. Justinda is a great writer,

1988
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 2: so I did enjoy the first half, but it really

1989
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 2: falls off a cliff when she starts to make excuses

1990
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Speaker 2: for what she did in office. What I will say

1991
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 2: about Grant as well is he's got a picture of

1992
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: himself as the man on the front. And then if

1993
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 2: you see it in a bookshop, flip it around, have

1994
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: a look at the picture of the little boy. You

1995
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 2: can see his man face and his baby face is

1996
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 2: so cute. Like you look at that and you go, oh,

1997
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Speaker 2: I see what you're going to look like as a man.

1998
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 2: Turn it around. Yep, still the same glasses. That's you. Anyway.

1999
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 2: I left it here. I brought it in, yes, and

2000
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: then I forgot it on the desk, and I know,

2001
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 2: how can you forget something so precious? And I forgot

2002
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 2: this is a cost you forty dollars. So I left

2003
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: it on the desk and came back in today and

2004
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 2: nobody had nicked it. It isn't that amazing? Nobody else

2005
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 2: wanted the book. It's sat there for a full twenty

2006
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 2: four hours. Don't worry, my precious, I've got it back.

2007
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 2: I shall start reading it right, Libby, What have you got?

2008
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 17: I've got an absolute classic for you?

2009
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh hard not to.

2010
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 17: This is because Split Ends are not doing nothing but

2011
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 17: reforming this year, getting back together for Electric Avenue down

2012
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 17: in Christia. Yes, the celebration. They're playing on the first day.

2013
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 17: There'll be the headliner on the Friday alongside A lot

2014
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 17: of names are big list. I won't read all of them.

2015
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 2: None of them matter because Split Ends is there, Libby.

2016
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Have we figured out if every single member of the

2017
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 2: team is back?

2018
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Speaker 17: They're not?

2019
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: Who's not? We figured it out.

2020
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 17: There's only four of.

2021
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: Them, and originally there was five or six. Wasn't there?

2022
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 17: There's been a lot of different lineup.

2023
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Has the strange piano dropped off?

2024
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 17: I've heard it's the dramma who didn't come back?

2025
01:37:59,600 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 9: The drum.

2026
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 17: I can read you the list and you can tell

2027
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 17: me look.

2028
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 2: Gone, then go.

2029
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 17: It's Neil Finn, Yeah, him Finn yeah, Noel Crombie yeah,

2030
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 17: Addie Rayner.

2031
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's the one who went it's Judd, Phil Judd.

2032
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: Phil Judd's not back. He's the one who went off

2033
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: and the ended counting the beat two, three, four five

2034
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: with the swingers. Oh, I wanted to hit back. Oh

2035
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: it's only eighty percent. No, that's a hard no. No,

2036
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I will, though, maybe I will. Will we go

2037
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 2: to christ Church? Will the perimenopausal women go to christ Church?

2038
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 2: For split ends? We shall find out. Le'll be a

2039
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 2: good choice from you pump it up, Off we go.

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Speaker 2: See tomorrow.

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