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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at be Morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: My seven year old car has sea callers, very effective

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Speaker 2: after the gym or on a summer's day. Not a

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Speaker 2: new thing. There you go. See this is you can

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Speaker 2: tell that I don't drive a cool car, can't you? Well?

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Speaker 2: Literally as a zing do.

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Speaker 1: They use it?

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Speaker 2: It's like a refrigerant or is it just a fan situation? Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm all he is, I'm learning something this morning. Time

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Speaker 2: to catch up with our resident doctor, Doctor Brian Betty

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Speaker 2: is in with us this morning. Call to Brian, Oh

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Speaker 2: cure Jack, Do you do you have a seat cooler?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't, No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, you and I've got to see I've

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Speaker 4: got to seat warmer. So right Hey, anyway, we're talking

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Speaker 4: to iron deficiency this morning. This is something that affects

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Speaker 4: so many people, the most common mineral deficiency worldwide. Why

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Speaker 4: is iron so important in the body.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's really important for making red blood cells in

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Speaker 3: our blood. Now, these carry oxygen from our lungs around

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Speaker 3: our body, so very very important. So if we don't

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Speaker 3: have enough iron in our body, we don't produce enough

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Speaker 3: red blood cells and we develop something called iron deficiency anemia,

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Speaker 3: and that causes all sorts of problems. Also very important

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Speaker 3: for the immune system and growth and development and children,

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Speaker 3: So a number of really really important functions for iron.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, how does it affect us if we don't

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Speaker 2: have enough iron on board?

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Speaker 3: Look, whole range of symptoms. However, the commonest thing we

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Speaker 3: do see in practice is someone presents feeling tired or

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Speaker 3: fatigued or just run down, or may even comment that

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Speaker 3: they look pale or just light. There can be other

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Speaker 3: other symptoms such as headaches, feeling shorter breath, and very

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Speaker 3: interesting things like hair loss or brittle nails, are racing hard,

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Speaker 3: or sometimes just feeling really really cold or just feeling

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Speaker 3: the cold. So yeah, there's a range of very very

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Speaker 3: different symptoms that can occur with with iron efficiency anemia.

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Speaker 2: And what causes it to happen.

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Speaker 3: Look, there's three major causes. One, you can get blood

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Speaker 3: loss over time. So probably the commonest cause we do

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Speaker 3: see in practice is heavy period bleeding. So that's heavy

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Speaker 3: menstrual bleeding in woman, and that's very very common. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: there can be very hidden blood loss causes such as

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Speaker 3: bleeding from the gut and this can indicate a more

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Speaker 3: serious problem like bowel cancer for instance, and that needs

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Speaker 3: to be investigated. Now, the other one, big one, is

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Speaker 3: not eating enough iron in our diet. Now, this is

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Speaker 3: especially an issue if you're vegan or vegetarian because obviously

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Speaker 3: iron comes in red meat. It also comes in chicken

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Speaker 3: and fish, so if you're not eating those, you can

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Speaker 3: develop iron deficiency anemia. And interestingly, it can be an

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Speaker 3: issue for children. So if you breastfeed exclusively, breastfeed for

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Speaker 3: too long and don't introduce solids around four to six months,

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Speaker 3: children can become iron deficient anemia, become iron deficient, and

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Speaker 3: that's because there's not much iron and breast milk. So

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Speaker 3: that's the other thing we take note of. And the

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Speaker 3: third one is mal what we call malabsorption, so not

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Speaker 3: absorbing enough iron through the stomach and probably bariatric surgery

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Speaker 3: with weight losses becoming more common. So yeah, people who

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Speaker 3: have bariatric surgery have to take iron supplements to make

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Speaker 3: sure they're getting enough iron.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So what can we do about it apart

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Speaker 2: from just eating lots more spinach and steak.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So look, really really important. Look, if you're feeling

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Speaker 3: very tired, run down and you're just not feeling quite right,

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Speaker 3: make sure you do see your GP for a very

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Speaker 3: simple blood test that we do that says, look, you

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Speaker 3: don't have enough iron on board. Now, if there's an

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Speaker 3: underlying cause like causing the blood loss such as you know,

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Speaker 3: the heavy periods or we're worried about bleeding from the vowel,

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Speaker 3: we investigate that and treat that to stop the iron loss.

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Speaker 3: But obviously diet's incredibly important. So look, you know meat, fish, chicken,

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Speaker 3: very very important source of iron. But if you are

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Speaker 3: vegan or vegetarian, make sure you adjust your diet. So

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Speaker 3: you need to have lots of green leafy vegetables, nuts

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Speaker 3: and seeds and fruit. So vitamin C is very important

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Speaker 3: for iron absorption, so having fruit with your meals becomes

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Speaker 3: very important. And a little trick here is you have

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Speaker 3: to be careful with tannins and coffee or tea because

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Speaker 3: they actually stop iron bean absorbed, So you need to

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Speaker 3: be careful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So sometimes look, sometimes regardless

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Speaker 3: of that, you do need iron supplements to boost your iron.

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Speaker 3: An occasion you need what's called iron infusion, where we

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Speaker 3: infuse iron directly into the veins to back up and

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Speaker 3: to build up your iron stores. But baseline is, look,

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Speaker 3: if you're concerned, see your GP, get a simple blood

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Speaker 3: test and start to get it treated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm sure she won't mind me saying this,

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Speaker 2: but my wife when she was you know, has low

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Speaker 2: iron sometimes, and when she was pregnant, she went in

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Speaker 2: and got an iron transfusion infusion I suppose, and my god,

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Speaker 2: it made a difference, like it was night and day.

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Speaker 2: It was like she suddenly felt like she needed three

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Speaker 2: hours of sleep less every day and she still had

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Speaker 2: more energy. Like it was really just remarkable to see

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Speaker 2: how a mineral deficiency like that could fundamentally change her

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Speaker 2: day to day life. Like it really was just crazy.

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Speaker 2: So the extreme end of the treatments, but yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: They feel so much better once they treat the deficiency.

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Speaker 3: And pre and pregnancy is important because there's so much

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Speaker 3: more demands on iron and the body with growing the

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Speaker 3: baby inside the uterus, that iron deficiency can actually be

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Speaker 3: a problem in pregnancy as well. So yeah, important to

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Speaker 3: treat it because it's so important for the development of

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Speaker 3: the fetus and the baby.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much, appreciate your time, Brian. Doctor

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Speaker 2: Brian Beatty with us this morning. Here you go. Turns

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Speaker 2: out Brian and I have the wrong card. Jack. Both

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Speaker 2: my twenty sixteen Tomorrow and my twenty twenty one Silverado

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Speaker 2: have heated and call front seats. Thank you very much.

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