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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Murray old Illy corresponding, Hello, No,

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Speaker 1: hello Heather, good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 2: Should we ban men?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a very very vigorous debate over here, as

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Speaker 1: you might expect. All the data shows ninety seven percent

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Speaker 1: of child sex offenders ninety seven percent are men. So

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Speaker 1: it's not about discrimination. According to those who are supporting

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Speaker 1: this idea that men basically should not work in childcare centers,

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Speaker 1: ninety seven percent of those accused of sexual offenses against

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Speaker 1: little kids are men. And here's the thing. I mean

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Speaker 1: that there's allegations this afternoon that this alleged child sex

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Speaker 1: offender worked at more than twenty centers across Melbourne. That

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Speaker 1: and those centers have been identified so far. This is

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Speaker 1: the is the twenty four year old, I think a

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Speaker 1: twenty six year old a bigger pardon the twenty six

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Speaker 1: year old who's accused of sexually assaulting children at one

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Speaker 1: center aged five months to two years old. The accused

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Speaker 1: those worked at at least twenty centers. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Twelve hundred children, The parents of twelve hundred kiddies have

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Speaker 1: been told to go out and get their kids tested

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Speaker 1: for your sitting down gonorrhea and chlamydia. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't get much more serious than this. So there's

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Speaker 1: very vigorous debate about men and being involved. And as

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Speaker 1: you say, there's a second fellow now, and apparently the

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Speaker 1: alleged child sex offender in the childcare setting only came

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Speaker 1: to light when police busted the second guy and accused

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Speaker 1: him of raping a young man fourteen years old, So

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Speaker 1: a child, I should say. So it's dreadfully, dreadfully murky

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Speaker 1: and horrible, and I mean people are freaking out, as

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Speaker 1: you might expect in Melbourne. And so there's very vigorous

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Speaker 1: debate about men, about how many centers, and the thing

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Speaker 1: goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: Mus Although the proportion of sex offenders who are mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a high proportion. What proportion of men

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Speaker 2: do you think are sex offenders?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: That's probably also a relevant stat right, I mean, just

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Speaker 2: because these two guys are creeps doesn't mean all men

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Speaker 2: are creeps.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's true, but you know, I mean, you're limited

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Speaker 1: in terms of being able to sexually abuse children if

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Speaker 1: you're working for price waterhouse. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're in the army, but if you were, if

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Speaker 1: you are one of these people who wants to offend

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Speaker 1: against kids and you're in a childcare setting, it just

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Speaker 1: makes it so much more easy, doesn't it. And that's

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Speaker 1: the allegation. I mean, that's the and that's the argument

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Speaker 1: getting propagated over here today.

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Speaker 2: Listen, did Quantus lose your information? Did people nicke it?

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Speaker 1: Well? I don't know. They've not contacted me, and I

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Speaker 1: am a Quantus frequent flyer, but you know, all of

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Speaker 1: Quantus are frequent flyers, and I've not been contacted. But

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Speaker 1: those of us who have and those of us who haven't,

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Speaker 1: everyone who flies quant has been warned look out for

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Speaker 1: scammer teams next few days. Six million people caught up

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Speaker 1: in this massive data breach. You've got cyber criminals who

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Speaker 1: belted Quantus on Monday. I'm not sure what a third

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Speaker 1: party customer servicing platform is, but that's apparently what the

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Speaker 1: crooks use to gain access to things like customers names,

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Speaker 1: email addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, frequent flyer numbers. Quantuses listen,

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Speaker 1: no credit card details, no financial information, so no pens,

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Speaker 1: no logins, but of course what other authorities are saying,

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Speaker 1: independent of the airline, all the information they've got can

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Speaker 1: be used to create fake IDs in your name, in

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Speaker 1: my name, in my brother's name, or your cousin's name.

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Speaker 1: So you don't need over here. It's one hundred points

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Speaker 1: and you can create a fake identity and you've got

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Speaker 1: a holl of it, a whole bunch of points. When

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Speaker 1: you've you know, you stack up all of the quantus

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Speaker 1: ID stuff. Mas.

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Speaker 2: Why the fifteen year old boys shooting up houses in.

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Speaker 1: Sydney because they think a thousand dollars is a lot

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Speaker 1: of money?

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Speaker 2: Is thatpt what they're getting paid?

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Speaker 1: Well, that was one thing I heard on the air

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Speaker 1: this morning. As little as a thousand dollars, they've given

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Speaker 1: the gun, an address, a stolen car they I mean,

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Speaker 1: a lot of these kids will be so small they

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Speaker 1: couldn't see that at the boody steering wheel, and here

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Speaker 1: they are. They're given an address and a handgun. In

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Speaker 1: one case, allegedly, back in March, a fifteen year old

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Speaker 1: kid is accused of shooting up a home in Maryland's

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Speaker 1: and Sydney's West twenty eight bullets fired from a semi

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Speaker 1: automatic rifle at the same in Maryland's a woman and

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Speaker 1: four kiddies inside. One of the kids missed by millimeters

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Speaker 1: a bullet in his head the wrong address. For God's sake,

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Speaker 1: these kids can't even the boody a text message. And

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Speaker 1: then there's a second case and the you know, the

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Speaker 1: allegation is this fifteen year old also pulled the trigger

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Speaker 1: here with a second boy in April. In the second case,

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Speaker 1: they police are saying that the young woman was known

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Speaker 1: to them through associations the organized crime. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's called air tasking assassinations. I can get someone to

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Speaker 1: come to my house and do a tiling job or

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Speaker 1: a paint job or whatever it might be. These crims

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Speaker 1: dialing up would be assassin's as young as fifteen with

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Speaker 1: the promise of a thousand bucks. Imagine that. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: just crazy, isn't it. Please you're saying, Plinja're saying, this

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Speaker 1: is not a video game, boys, it is not a

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Speaker 1: video This is real life at debt. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 1: you want to do this stuff, you'll be in jail

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Speaker 1: for a hell of a long time. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Far too young to even understand it. Must appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Murray Old's Australia correspondent. Oh, by the way, just got

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Speaker 2: a text from somebody. The crowds in Wellington who went

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Speaker 2: to see the Blue Bridge, which included the sun, were

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Speaker 2: drawn by free coffee and chocolate. Hey, now we get

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Speaker 2: to the truth of it. You don't care that much

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Speaker 2: about a boat ship ship, as somebody said on the

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Speaker 2: texts ship, but you do care about the free coffee

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Speaker 2: and the chocolate. Now listen on these men. I'll be

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Speaker 2: honest with you because I'm a parent of the age.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm a parent with kids of the age.

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Speaker 2: A go to ECE and I am happy that every

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Speaker 2: single teacher at the KINDI is a woman. I am

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Speaker 2: happy about that because I like, I think, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: women feel safer to me than men do. However, can

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Speaker 2: I just make this point, and I think it is

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Speaker 2: an important point. Absolutely, most creeps are men, but not

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Speaker 2: all all men are creeps by any stretch of the imagination. Right,

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Speaker 2: The number of creeps, the number of men who are

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Speaker 2: creeps are tiny, right, And it's unfortunately all men suffer

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Speaker 2: because of these creeps. Also, while men may oppose a

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Speaker 2: sexual threat, women pose threats to children too. Right, that

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Speaker 2: go and google it. If you are made of sturdy

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Speaker 2: enough stuff. I can't google that stuff, so I get

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Speaker 2: too upset about it. But there are like countless examples

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Speaker 2: of women in childcare settings who neglect children, hurt children,

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Speaker 2: hit children, do all kinds of stuff, weird stuff to children.

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Speaker 2: They just really abuse them in a hideous to I mean,

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Speaker 2: just look at the nuns. Do we need to go

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Speaker 2: any further?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So you cannot actually, just as a rule, trust one

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Speaker 2: sex over the other. Both genders can be hideous to kids.

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Speaker 2: What you need is good vetting, and clearly that is

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Speaker 2: what's gone wrong in Victoria.

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