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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, News Togs Dad be only welcome to.

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Speaker 2: Day to Higher Minister on Iran and where it all

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Speaker 2: goes the claiming the script NATO and where it all goes.

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Speaker 2: Another massive industrial development has been announced, good for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Ink will give you the details. The lads do the

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Speaker 2: sport after right Richard Arnold, Steve Price their top shelf

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Husky.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past six. Welcome to the week. ACC.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't know, it's in some fiscal trouble again,

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Speaker 2: this isn't new. ACC has been in trouble for many,

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Speaker 2: many years. Last year one point six million of us

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Speaker 2: managed to do something to ourselves which involved money four

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Speaker 2: and a half billion dollars worth. That's just rehab by

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Speaker 2: the way, four and a half billion. The total bill

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Speaker 2: is seven billion dollars. It's an astonishing amount of money.

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Speaker 2: And the problem is what we pay doesn't cover what

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Speaker 2: goes out. ACC run a scheme whereby money is invested

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Speaker 2: in the hope that returns offset the bills I personally

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Speaker 2: pay thousands of dollars a year and have done so

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Speaker 2: for decades to this day. I've never claimed ascent original

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Speaker 2: idea was a no fault scheme. This as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a US style scheme whereby we lay blame and get lawyers.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen thousand people did something to themselves in the garden

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Speaker 2: last year and claimed millions. Previously, phisio has been an

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Speaker 2: issue where does physio start and stoppell? Who would know?

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Speaker 2: But let's have another three sessions while we decide. Shall

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Speaker 2: we go to any doctor with anything that hurts in

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Speaker 2: the first thing they do is start tapping away on

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Speaker 2: an ACC claim. Like most of these altruistic ideas, somewhere

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Speaker 2: along the way we lost the plot. It might be

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Speaker 2: we need to tidy this whole thing up foolishly. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: I've always seen acc as work related. If you injure

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Speaker 2: yourself and can't work, that's its value, not if you

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Speaker 2: cut your finger pruning hydrangers. We had a family member

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Speaker 2: who was off work for months, I think too many months.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't let him back. I mean, he wanted to

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Speaker 2: go back, but they kept saying, oh, just in case.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there's too much just in case going

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Speaker 2: on the risk payments. They seem to work to a degree.

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Speaker 2: I mean forty percent of the payouts are in construction, manufacturing, agriculture, fishing,

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Speaker 2: as sort of place as you'd expect. I pay as

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Speaker 2: a journalist, even though I'm not a journalist, but they

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Speaker 2: can't work out what I am or how to charge

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Speaker 2: me and part of that journalist. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: premium is the risk of going to a war zone.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you journalists generally in New Zealand don't

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Speaker 2: go to war zones anyway. One point six million, with

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Speaker 2: two million claims and an all up cost of seven

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Speaker 2: billion dollars in barely over two years. Do the maths

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Speaker 2: extrapolate them out in barely over two years? Basically, every

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Speaker 2: single one of us is going to claim that's not right,

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Speaker 2: it's not normal, and it's why they can't pay their way.

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Speaker 2: The system doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Post the attack comes the spin. It was an incredible

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Speaker 2: and overwhelming success.

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Speaker 4: The order we received from our commander in chief was focused,

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Speaker 4: it was powerful.

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Speaker 5: And it was clear.

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Speaker 6: More spin Around's key nuclear and Richmond facilities have been

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Speaker 6: completely and totally obliterated. Around the Bully of the Middle

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Speaker 6: East peace. If they do not, future attacks would be

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Speaker 6: far greater and a lot easier.

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Speaker 2: No one spends a lot the Iranians.

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Speaker 7: Attacking a nuclear facility by itself is an unforgivable violation

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Speaker 7: of international law and should be condemned. My country has

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Speaker 7: been under attack, under aggression, and we have to respond.

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Speaker 2: There is still some hype of some sort of deal.

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Speaker 2: Apparently it's not that the Iranians weren't offered a deal.

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Speaker 7: What they want is a civil nuclear program where they

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Speaker 7: have power plants like every other kind of a lot

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Speaker 7: of other countries in.

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Speaker 8: The world have.

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Speaker 5: They can do that.

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Speaker 2: That's the deal that's been offered to them. They rejected

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Speaker 2: it domestically, although many a president has let loose previously,

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Speaker 2: so this is not a first. The Dems not through.

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Speaker 4: If tomorrow morning they kick out the inspectors and decide

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Speaker 4: to do this in some cave that we don't even

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Speaker 4: know about. There is a very real possibility that sometime

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Speaker 4: in the next six months or so, we see what

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Speaker 4: we saw in Pakistan or in India, which is holy smokes,

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Speaker 4: there's a nuclear weapon being tested internationally.

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Speaker 2: Good collection of lads, calm down.

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Speaker 9: We're doing everything we can to stabilize the situation, to

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Speaker 9: de escalate the situation, and to get to a negotiated outcome.

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Speaker 9: But I'm very clear in my own mind that around

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Speaker 9: cannot be allowed to have a nuclear weapon that is

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Speaker 9: the greatest threat to stability in the region.

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Speaker 2: And finally, new world record Joshua Rigello for the longest

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Speaker 2: playing of the steel pen did it for thirty one hours,

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Speaker 2: which strike just as a thing didn't seem that long.

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Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't do but I'm just if you

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Speaker 2: said how long you're reckoning you play the steel pan

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Speaker 2: for for a world record, I would have gone fifty something.

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Speaker 2: Personal it's not the first record he's got. I had

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Speaker 2: the last year. Who became the first steel penist to

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Speaker 2: play on the Great Wall of China, which I don't

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Speaker 2: even think of thing, it's just stupid. Let's us the

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Speaker 2: world of medic and straight up for moose as where

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Speaker 2: we're looking across price of oil all that stuff. Binko

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Speaker 2: who are shipping organization, they're thinking that some anti ship

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Speaker 2: missiles or drones might be underway. Before you know that

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Speaker 2: the Hooties might be involved. We hope not obviously, but

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Speaker 2: that's going to be a talking point. The shape. Freight

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Speaker 2: ships are still using it as we speak, but things

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Speaker 2: quote unquote might change by the hour.

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Speaker 2: The Central Bank News China unchanged one year rate at three,

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Speaker 2: five year rate at three and a half. Bank of England.

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Speaker 2: Funds Management, Greg Smith, Welcome to Monday Mate Morning, Mike Iran,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're braced for some volity. I think that's pretty

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Speaker 10: much pretty much the theme. So I guess there's gonna

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Speaker 10: be a lot of eyes on the ore price. As

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Speaker 10: you mentioned, Are we going to get a spike sort

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Speaker 10: we've seen some predictions that prices could go well north

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Speaker 10: It's currently around around about seventy five. There's one major

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Speaker 10: and they can. The most severe case, we get to

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Speaker 10: a handbrake on economic growth. And yeah, just let the

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Speaker 10: impact of board equity markets. You know, do we get

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Speaker 10: a bit of a risk off sell off? I suppose, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: there was sort of one point to sort of take

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Speaker 10: markets have shown to be quite resilient. Do you look

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Speaker 10: at you We're Middle East are sort of bubbled higher

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Speaker 10: to recover. Yeah, regardless of what they're do in the

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Speaker 10: a useful reminder from Visus might not be too spooked

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Speaker 2: He's sitting at four two five, and yet the retail

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the UK consumers not in sort of great knack.

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Speaker 10: They've been looking to raise interest rates as long as

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Speaker 10: the economy recovers and get inflation back towards your two

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Speaker 2: At be Greg mentioned a moment ago Rachel reaveson of

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Speaker 2: The news from the movies, Q two winner, which was

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Speaker 13: Yeah, no, your life isn't not there, Elio.

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Speaker 14: You need to make friends.

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Speaker 14: You search the universe for.

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Speaker 2: The dreamers and stargazers like you?

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Speaker 13: Are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 1: You ever asking my name?

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Speaker 2: Jone forgotten once. The stealth took off over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: Bit of both? We think, Mike, the job that we're

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Speaker 2: So exciting times, it's funny you should say that is

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Speaker 2: It be speaking of infrastructure. Good news over the week

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Speaker 2: in three groups have been sorted out as being bidders

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Speaker 14: have come out now showing a big hole on the ground.

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Speaker 14: As President Trump is claiming.

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Speaker 6: Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and

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Speaker 6: totally obliterated.

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Speaker 14: Well, the head of the US Joint Chiefs, General Dan Kin,

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Speaker 14: gives a more restrained assessment about all of this.

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Speaker 16: Final battle damage will take some time, but initial battle

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Speaker 16: damage assessments indicate that all three sites sustained extremely severe damage.

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Speaker 14: So that's how it is with battle assessments, isn't it.

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Speaker 14: They take a while. New Wes Vice President Jady Vance

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Speaker 14: has been on some of the political chant shows today saying.

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Speaker 5: This severely damaged versus obliterated. I'm not exactly sure what

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Speaker 5: the difference is.

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Speaker 14: Well, the difference is did they delay the program for

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Speaker 14: a bit or eliminated? There are reports that while the

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Speaker 14: US attack was being organized two days before, trucks gathered

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Speaker 14: at the Fordoh site. What were they doing? Were they

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Speaker 14: taking out enrich uranium? Says Jim Himes, the ranking Democrat

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Speaker 14: on the Intelligence Committee.

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Speaker 4: Here, we have no idea in the world right now

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Speaker 4: whether these strikes were in any way successful. There's some

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Speaker 4: chance that you know, given that this raid was telegraphed

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Speaker 4: for a couple of days, that they might have thrown

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Speaker 4: a couple hundred kilograms of sixty percent and raised your

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Speaker 4: uranium into the back of a truck and moved it

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Speaker 4: somewhere else.

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Speaker 14: The US attack itself was executed very well. They went

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Speaker 14: into Iranian airspace covertly without any defenses being activated, says

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Speaker 14: General Kane.

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Speaker 16: We are currently unaware of any shots fired at the

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Speaker 16: US strike package.

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Speaker 14: So that's remarkable. There were more than one hundred and

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Speaker 14: twenty five American aircraft involved, seven B two stealth bombers,

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Speaker 14: dropping fourteen of the mops or massive ordinance penetrators and

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Speaker 14: Pentagon speak first time these things have ever been deployed.

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Speaker 14: They hit four to oh in the tans while cruise

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Speaker 14: missiles were fired on Isfahan from a US submarine. The

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Speaker 14: B twos flew directly from Missouri and were refueled several

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Speaker 14: times during flights. They were also followed by decoy planes

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Speaker 14: that were sent out over the Pacific, so in the

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Speaker 14: opposite direction. So it's brilliantly done. However, how will Iran respond?

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Speaker 14: They hit targets again after this in Israel, as we've

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Speaker 14: seen President Trump saying he plans no further attacks unless

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Speaker 14: Iran responds militarily against the US. You know, there are

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Speaker 14: some forty thousand American troops at bases in the region,

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Speaker 14: just sitting there. The US says it is ready to

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Speaker 14: defend those troops, as Trump is warning.

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Speaker 6: Rand the bully of the Middle East must now make peace.

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Speaker 6: If they do not, future attacks would be far greater

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Speaker 6: and a lot easier.

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Speaker 14: You know, Iran's parliament has voted to close the state

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Speaker 14: of holl Moves, the Gulf shipping channel through which about

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Speaker 14: a fifth of the world to will supply travels. So

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Speaker 14: what's this going to mean for petrol prices? Iran is weakened,

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Speaker 14: but its foreign minister Rachi Wardens have quote everlasting consequences.

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Speaker 14: Now the US has attacked Iran directly for the first time.

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Speaker 14: A top Russian official is saying the US attack has

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Speaker 14: begun a new war and strength at Iran's Ayatola company

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Speaker 14: and says the US move will plunge the entire region

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Speaker 14: into quote unquote the Abyss. So so much for friendship

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Speaker 14: with Putin? Right, was this US strike one and done?

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Speaker 2: We'll find out soon all right, might see Wednesday. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: it Richard Donld state side, Winston Peters after seven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: of course, the Prime Minister hit of the night, I'm

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Speaker 2: meeting in Europe will be with us after seven thirty

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Speaker 2: This morning, thirteen to.

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Speaker 1: Two, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities

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Speaker 1: News togs Head been Mike.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you ask Winston if he's seen any evidence

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Speaker 2: of RAN's building a nuclear weapon at THEA who's been

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Speaker 2: singing the same song since the nineties and yet nothing?

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Speaker 2: They're are we looking at another Iraq? At what point

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Speaker 2: do we continue to blindly support the US narrative? Tulsy

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Speaker 2: Gabbett and probably one of the most head turning reversals

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Speaker 2: of fortune in the history of modern politics. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: if he followed that he gave her an earful when

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Speaker 2: she told them she didn't think that much was happening,

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Speaker 2: and then he gave her the air full, and suddenly

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Speaker 2: she thought a whole lot was happening. It's just the

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Speaker 2: most amazing thing. The IAEA, in response to your question,

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Speaker 2: they didn't think there was much happening, but that's not

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Speaker 2: how this game has played. Of course, as far as

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Speaker 2: the airlines are concerned Flight Radar twenty four a lot

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Speaker 2: of diversions going on in that particular part of the world.

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Speaker 2: So most people are not flying to a Rana Raq,

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Speaker 2: Syria or indeed Israel. They're going via north if they

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Speaker 2: take the Northern root via the Caspian Sea, or they

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Speaker 2: take the southern root fire Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Some

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Speaker 2: of the major plane the obvious places aren't being flying to.

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Speaker 11: All.

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Speaker 2: American airlines have canceled everything to Doha, British have canceled

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Speaker 2: all Tel Abiv flights until the end of July, all

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Speaker 2: flights into a Mahan bah Rain until the end of June.

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Speaker 2: The poorse flights to Doha and Dubai. That's the Dubai

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Speaker 2: is the interesting part because of course we're connected to

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Speaker 2: Dubai still Etty Yard, which aren't quite in this part

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Speaker 2: of the world. They fly out of Australia to the

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Speaker 2: Middle East. They've canceled anything between Abadabi and Aman and

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Speaker 2: Abadhabi in Tel Aviv Emirates, which definitely are in this

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Speaker 2: part of the world. Nothing to and from Jordan, Lebanon,

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Speaker 2: i ran I Rak as you would think, but they're

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Speaker 2: still moving through the Emirates as you would imagine. In fact,

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Speaker 2: we had some people family members on a plane last

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Speaker 2: night lovet answer all flights to and from by route

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Speaker 2: tel Abev, Tehran, gom Kata, who are here to and

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Speaker 2: from Iraq, Iran, Syria. But they're still flying normally Ish

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Speaker 2: Singapore all flights the Persian This is an international report

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Speaker 2: I read, so you need to check if you're traveling

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Speaker 2: school holidays. Of course coming up Singapore Airlines, it says

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Speaker 2: this international report all flights to the Persian Gulf may

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Speaker 2: be effected, so it's something to think about if you're

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Speaker 2: traveling over the next couple of weeks. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 2: the weird thing about the next couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 2: you've got universities having different holidays depending on where the

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Speaker 2: universities are. Also, and I speak from experience, depending on

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Speaker 2: where your exams are. If you finished your exam, suddenly

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Speaker 2: you get an extra week of holidays, so you could

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Speaker 2: be off for a month. And then it depends whether

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Speaker 2: you're at a public school or a private school. So

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Speaker 2: private schools have three weeks holidays. Public schools have two

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Speaker 2: weeks holiday. So it could be a university at four,

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Speaker 2: Private at three, public school at two. So the next

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Speaker 2: month who they hell knows what's happening and if I

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Speaker 2: get time later. The rankings came out over the weekend

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Speaker 2: and very good news for our system. The New Zealand

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Speaker 2: universities went up, Australia's went down. And more to say

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Speaker 2: on that after seven thirty, not specifically about universities, but

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Speaker 2: the Australian story at the moment is problematic and we

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Speaker 2: don't seem to care because we're all leaving New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to go live in Australia. But they've got some real worries,

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Speaker 2: including the universities which are going in the wrong direction

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Speaker 2: while ours are going in the right direction, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Six away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven these it's the fizz with business tiber take your

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Speaker 1: business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk millionaires. There are more millionaires in the world.

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Speaker 2: We're going up at the up of the up, at

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Speaker 2: the appity up. This is from UBS. It shows that

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Speaker 2: the US has the most millionaires in the world, which

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Speaker 2: is probably not surprising. They preface this particular report this

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Speaker 2: morning saying these are twenty twenty four numbers, so it

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Speaker 2: is expected overall to drop a little bit because here

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Speaker 2: markets had a tough old time a bit lately, and

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Speaker 2: the US dollars down about nine percent so far this year,

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Speaker 2: they added the US three hundred and seventy nine thousand

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Speaker 2: new Millionaires's funny thing, millionaires. I mean, it's not much

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Speaker 2: to be a millionaire. I mean, if you live in

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Speaker 2: a place like Queenstown or Auckland, or Sydney or Melbourne

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Speaker 2: in fact anywhere in Australia these days, and you own

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Speaker 2: your own home, technically you're a millionaire. Anyway, three hundred

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Speaker 2: seventy nine thousand new millionaires last year, that's one thousand

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Speaker 2: a day. So they've got twenty three point eight million

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Speaker 2: millionaires in America, China, and this is what interested me.

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Speaker 2: They've got next to name millionaires. Comparatively speaking, they're well

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Speaker 2: in excess of a billion people. They've only got six

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Speaker 2: point three millionaires, which is an increase of two point

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Speaker 2: three percent, so they've got more millionaires, but hardly any

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Speaker 2: of them. Turkey highest percentage change for their millionaire population,

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Speaker 2: so they're getting richer, up eight point four percent, so

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Speaker 2: they've got eighty seven thousand millionaires. The US forty percent

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Speaker 2: of the world's millionaires. Luxembourg and Switzerland had the concentration

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Speaker 2: of wealth so one, two and three the US, Luxembourg

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Speaker 2: and Switzerland. In both countries about one and seven adults

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Speaker 2: have at least a million dollars. Over All, the millionaire

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Speaker 2: population grew more more than six hundred and eight thousand

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Speaker 2: to cover sixty million, so there are sixty million millionaires.

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Speaker 2: Japan's the biggest loser. They lost thirty three thousand millionaires

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Speaker 2: thanks to their shrinking population. There a lot of troubles.

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Speaker 2: Millionaires are a lot of trouble Japan at the moment.

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Speaker 2: The price of rises through the route are they're losing

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Speaker 2: all their millionaires. They've got an election because they've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of skulduggery going on in that part of

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Speaker 2: the world, and they've got in plation higher than they

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Speaker 2: thought it was. So I mean, Japan billionaire account. You

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Speaker 2: want to know about the billionaires. We've got a few billionaires.

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Speaker 2: We've got two eight hundred ninety one billionaires in the

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Speaker 2: world and they've got over fifteen point seven tree in assets.

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Speaker 2: So the rich are getting richer, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: And we've got fifteen centy billionaires, which is billionaires with

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Speaker 2: more than one hundred billion dollars each, right, so what

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Speaker 2: are we deal with here? We'll get gilbarn Dollar back

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Speaker 2: from the Defense priority in Washington. As to where this goes,

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Speaker 2: the general consensus over the weekend and doing the reading

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Speaker 2: is Arran hasn't got anything. They talk a big game

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Speaker 2: and they got nothing, and they haven't got any friends.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Russians are not coming to their aid,

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Speaker 2: the Chinese are not coming to their aid. So where

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Speaker 2: does this go apart from seemingly nowhere, Yes, there'll be

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Speaker 2: something in the straight up of Moorsharim, assuming they'll do

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Speaker 2: something there and close it down, or the Hooties might

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Speaker 2: blow up a ship or do something like that. And

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Speaker 2: I don't need to an iminige what's going on. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying this isn't turning into a world war, but

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Speaker 2: guild barn Dollar will presumably confirm that for us. Shortly,

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Speaker 2: we're parking a Hercules somewhere in the region to help

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Speaker 2: out the New Zealanders who rule main there. Sir Winston

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Speaker 2: Peters on that. Meantime, Christaller Luxan, is it just me?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened in China. We tweaked a

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Speaker 2: visa one of the Chinese airlines said yep, we'll have

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Speaker 2: a few more seats coming to Walkland. Apart from that,

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Speaker 2: did anything actually happen in that particular visits. He's now

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Speaker 2: in Europe ahead of the NATO meeting and we've been

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Speaker 2: out sixteen million dollars more for Ukraine. So he'll be

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Speaker 2: with us after seven thirty this morning, and being a Monday,

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Speaker 2: we'll do the sport with the lads in the commentary

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Speaker 2: box after eight.

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Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between, the Mic Hosking break

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Speaker 1: best with the Defender Doctor the most powerful Defender ever

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Speaker 1: made and.

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Speaker 2: Used togs Head be seven past seven to Operation Midnight

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Speaker 2: Hammer is what they call it. In the American's claim

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Speaker 2: it's complete success. Where we go now is the big question.

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Speaker 2: Gil bun Dollar's senior fellow at the Defense Priority in Washington.

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Speaker 2: He's back with us. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 11: How are corning very well?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the US claim obliteration and the timeline and all

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Speaker 2: of that, is it from your point of view? The

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Speaker 2: success they claim?

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Speaker 8: I think that's still to be seen.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I think a lot of us, especially people

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Speaker 17: with serious chops on nuclear security, would tell you that

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Speaker 17: these strikes are unlikely to have to have destroyed everything

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Speaker 17: or obliterated the program. And even if they did, you know,

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Speaker 17: it's clear that the Iranians can reconstitute that. They may

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Speaker 17: take a couple of years. But it's this isn't sort

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Speaker 17: of the end of it, definitively some.

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Speaker 2: Sort of suggesting they could have moved stuff. One could they?

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Speaker 2: And two if they did, would they have seen it anyway?

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Speaker 2: The Americans, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: They definitely could have. And that's the story that's coming

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Speaker 8: out of some outlets.

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Speaker 17: The question is, when I think if they did it

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Speaker 17: after the Israelis began their campaign, ability has really destroyed

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Speaker 17: a huge chunk of Iranian air defenses and had really,

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Speaker 17: as far as we can tell, kind of free reign

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Speaker 17: over huge chunks of the country. So if they were

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Speaker 17: trying to move things after that, if they were caught

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Speaker 17: flat footed, which a lot of people have said, then

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Speaker 17: that may be less likely.

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Speaker 2: What's that tell us about being able to fly and

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Speaker 2: do what they did and fly out and the Iranians

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Speaker 2: seemingly did nothing. I mean, what's that tell us about them?

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Speaker 8: I think that you know, this is kind of a

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Speaker 8: continuation of a story that started two years ago. Now.

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Speaker 17: But I think that the ability of the Israelis, in

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Speaker 17: terms of their intelligence and then their strike packages to

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Speaker 17: knock out Iranian air defense and give them free rein

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Speaker 17: it speaks to a lack of capability on the part

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Speaker 17: of the Iranians and how compromised they were by Israeli

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Speaker 17: intelligence and maybe by US.

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Speaker 8: But I think the majority of that is on the

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Speaker 8: on the Israeli side.

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Speaker 2: What would you do?

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Speaker 17: They've had, they've had, They've had really free reigns since

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Speaker 17: that campaign started on July thirteenth, and I think people

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Speaker 17: didn't really expect that. They expected that Irani defensive especially

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Speaker 17: the stuff they bought from Russia, would have constrained them more.

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Speaker 2: What would you expect, my wife, of a responsive there

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Speaker 2: is one.

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Speaker 17: I mean, that's the million dollar question, and I wouldn't

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Speaker 17: I wouldn't hazard a prediction. But I think that what

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Speaker 17: iron could do, even in this severely weakened state, and

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Speaker 17: even having taken the body blows, the autrition they took

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Speaker 17: to their leadership over the last week, they have the ability,

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Speaker 17: certainly to throw missiles at and to do some damage

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Speaker 17: to a lot of really kind of key US infrastructure

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Speaker 17: and US troops over there. Whether you're talking about Bahrain

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Speaker 17: or Kuwait or the UAE or even as far as Jordan,

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Speaker 17: we have we have serious installations Cutter as well. That's

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Speaker 17: less likely because of their relationship with the Cutties. The

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Speaker 17: other big question is whether they want to close the

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Speaker 17: straight up or moves and can strain you know, global

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Speaker 17: oil supply, whether temporarily or as long as they can.

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Speaker 8: That's the other huge economic question.

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Speaker 2: It's lingering is it phasis suggest the Iranians talk a

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Speaker 2: big game and don't often do a lot.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, And I think this this strike is probably predicated

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Speaker 17: in a large part on on confidence that that's how

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Speaker 17: it's going to go. You know that are On is

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Speaker 17: two weak and doesn't want to risk a full blown

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Speaker 17: you know, US response and strikes of indeterminate, you know,

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Speaker 17: indefinite duration. So I think that's that's one of, if

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Speaker 17: not the major thing that this White House is gambling on.

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Speaker 17: But I think that's a dangerous assumption given that we're

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Speaker 17: talking about actual regime regime stability and then continuing continuation

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Speaker 17: of the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 2: That's my next question, what chance regime change.

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Speaker 17: I'm very skeptical and most of the folks that I

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Speaker 17: talked to who are legitimately kind of iron experts of hall,

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Speaker 17: the internal politics and the state of that country, are

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Speaker 17: skeptical that that's this is going to work.

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Speaker 8: I think for two reasons. One that the the Iranians

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Speaker 8: have done it, or the IIan regime.

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Speaker 17: The government has done a great job of decapitating not

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Speaker 17: usually not literally, but decapitating opposition movements.

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Speaker 8: You know, we saw when they had the serious protests

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Speaker 8: last couple of years.

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Speaker 17: They've they've done a good job of delegitimizing and stopping

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Speaker 17: opposition movements. And so if you're taking a word of emigres,

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Speaker 17: whether it's whether it's Razzo polavian Is people or whether

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Speaker 17: it's the M e K or some other groups, if

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Speaker 17: you think they have a serious constituency, let alone kind

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Speaker 17: of people insider on that can make things happen, I'm

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Speaker 17: skeptical of that.

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Speaker 8: And the second piece, of course, is that.

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Speaker 17: This is happening, you know, on the back of foreign bombs,

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Speaker 17: and those have generally a tendency to unite a country,

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Speaker 17: at least temporarily.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a new wheelhouse, but

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Speaker 2: Trump domestically, does he have trouble with the dams, and

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Speaker 2: you know, America first and all that stuff will.

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Speaker 8: Not I think it all. I think it all depends

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Speaker 8: on how this goes.

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Speaker 17: If this is it, If if it's what they're they're

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Speaker 17: saying it is, and there's a there's this one strike

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Speaker 17: package and that's it, and then the US does nothing

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Speaker 17: further and there is no major ONI in response, then

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Speaker 17: I don't think he has much of a problem, certainly

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Speaker 17: within his own party.

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Speaker 8: Being said, I can't.

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Speaker 17: Remember a US military intervention that went forward with this

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Speaker 17: little over public supporting. If you believe the polls, you're

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Speaker 17: talking about ten to twenty percent of the country's actually

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Speaker 17: in favor of this, so that you know, we went

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Speaker 17: into the I Rock War, which is obviously disaster on

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Speaker 17: multiple levels. You had two thirds of Americans had come

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Speaker 17: to support that through whatever means, and this is very different.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Gil, go well, and we catch up soon,

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Speaker 2: Gil Bundle, who's the former marine and senior fellow at

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Speaker 2: the Defense Priority in Washington. Twelve minutes past seven. As

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Speaker 2: far as we're consumed, we're getting a HURK into the

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Speaker 2: region so as to be available to move people when

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Speaker 2: the airspace allows. The Foreign Minister Winston Peter's will Us

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Speaker 2: Winston morning, good morning. Do you reckon Iran's nuclear capable

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Speaker 2: or close to it?

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Speaker 13: All the signs planed to getting very close to it.

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Speaker 2: So you believe it because Tulsea Gabbart was telling us

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Speaker 2: just the other day she didn't then the IEI is

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Speaker 2: suggesting that. I think so are they.

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Speaker 13: Well a level of enrichment. I've switched the cat way

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Speaker 13: beyond every other prior negotiated purpose that they gave. I mean,

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Speaker 13: some facts are facts?

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Speaker 2: Your scenes of the claims of success? What do you reckon?

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Speaker 13: How do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, did they blow up the nuclear capability or not?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Look, at this point in time, we may be very

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Speaker 13: wise to keep our counsel and find out the facts,

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Speaker 13: get a proper analysis, and ensure that what we are

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Speaker 13: talking about is true, because one of the one of

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Speaker 13: the worst things in the first victims of war is truth.

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Speaker 13: And boy have we've seen it now with every comment

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Speaker 13: and every excellent expert giving the abuse perverse they are

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Speaker 13: and not in any way right to what's happening on

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Speaker 13: the ground. So yeah, I think it very wise to

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Speaker 13: us to keep our counsel and find out what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Do you see regime regime change in a run.

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Speaker 13: I think the problem is that when you've got the

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Speaker 13: actual destruction of freedom in the society, including from females

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Speaker 13: in the society right across the whole Gamber for the

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Speaker 13: last forty years, the chance of alternative government stepping up

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Speaker 13: seriously restricted. That's the difficulty. Do I think the majority

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Speaker 13: if you want raging changes, so I do. I think

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Speaker 13: they're going to give it. It's very very difficult to

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Speaker 13: see it happening.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a text. See see what you say, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If you choose to live in Iran or Israel, why

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Speaker 2: should the government have to send the cavalry to rescue you?

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Speaker 2: What do you say to them?

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Speaker 13: Well, you can say that, Mike, and we've been given

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Speaker 13: them months in warning and people will carry on as before.

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Speaker 13: But it's a new Zealand character and Zealand way. I mean,

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Speaker 13: when you tell people to get out of circumstances, some

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Speaker 13: done bobbed and still do it. In the last moment,

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Speaker 13: we've just gone from forty six people we thought we

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Speaker 13: had in the run to now ninety eight and we're

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Speaker 13: working on now. So the question is, well, it's a

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Speaker 13: new Zealant way to help our friends, no no out

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Speaker 13: and advice they might be, and we'll be helping a

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Speaker 13: lot of other countries as well who are in a

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Speaker 13: crisis circumstances. We have nobody else to help. We're a

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Speaker 13: good international citizen. We've got the resources, so let's do

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Speaker 13: what we've always done.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate. I'm very much Winston. Peter's Foreign Minister, Chris Lackson's

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Speaker 2: in the middle of Europe, of course, and he's with us.

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Speaker 2: After seven thirty fourteen Past the.

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Speaker 1: High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: News Talks seventeen past Mike, does millionaire status include mortgages

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Speaker 2: of the houses included in the stats? This goes back

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Speaker 2: to what we were saying just before seven o'clock. Now

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Speaker 2: it doesn't it. It means basically in general, and there's

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Speaker 2: lots of people in measure, but in general, what it

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Speaker 2: is you sell everything, then you cancel all your debt

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Speaker 2: and whatever you got left. Do you have a million

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Speaker 2: or more? If you do, you're a millionaire. If you don't,

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Speaker 2: you don't the deal I was asking about Luxton and China.

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Speaker 2: I'll get him to extrapolate, because there's being a bit

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Speaker 2: sort of secret squirrel on this the claim out of

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Speaker 2: the Chinese trip as they signed eight hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: one million dollars worth of business. A full list of

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Speaker 2: details not provided their claiming commercial sensitivity fair enough, but

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Speaker 2: the breakdown a four hundred million in the primary sect

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Speaker 2: of manufacturing, forty three ten education partnerships, tourism agreement's worth

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Speaker 2: two twenty eight and a couple of hundred million on

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Speaker 2: cosmetic deal. So I'll need to know more about that too.

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Speaker 2: I just had a kind of we went high and

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Speaker 2: then moved on without anything else happening. Mike missed the

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Speaker 2: last summary this morning. Is it's still our year? Don't

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Speaker 2: be facetious. Yes it is.

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Speaker 11: So.

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Speaker 2: The game on Saturday night afternoon I thought was not

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Speaker 2: a bad game. It was high quality game. And you've

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Speaker 2: got to remember when it comes to Penrith, Penrith not

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Speaker 2: what they were last year. They should be, but no

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Speaker 2: one can quite explain why they're not, including IBN Cleary. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: they played well because they're a good side and the

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Speaker 2: other sort of side we need to watch. The other

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Speaker 2: thing You've got to remember, given how well we've been doing,

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Speaker 2: is inevitably in a very long season. We're going to

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Speaker 2: lose a game. We lost a game, wasn't the end

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Speaker 2: of the world. I didn't think we played particularly badly.

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Speaker 2: I am worried about the injuries, at least one of

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Speaker 2: which looks to be a bit long term, so I'm

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Speaker 2: worried about that. But apart from that, I'm not worried

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Speaker 2: about the overall season. The season doesn't now sort of,

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Speaker 2: It's not like the old days. You've got to adjust

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Speaker 2: your thinking around this. We are a good side, a

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Speaker 2: good competitive side. We can week out. We are going

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs. We will be top four. The fact

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Speaker 2: you win an lose a couple along the way is

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Speaker 2: neither here nor there. If you look at the top

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Speaker 2: four of the table, there's a six point gap now

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Speaker 2: between the top four and the rest of the field.

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Speaker 2: You've got four really good sides, of which we are one,

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Speaker 2: and the fact we lost over the weekend really doesn't

873
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Speaker 2: make that much difference. We'll lose again before the end

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Speaker 2: of the season. Don't panic about it. Stop being a

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Speaker 2: fly by night, be consistent. For goodness, say and by

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Speaker 2: week's soft opening, full steam ahead by the score holidays,

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Speaker 2: he tells us. So far he's going gangbusters. A lot

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Speaker 2: of local support. Looks a good news story to my eye.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 2: However, if you believe the headline, the headlines that have

912
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Speaker 2: been supplied by his industry association in very dark and

913
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Speaker 2: difficult days, they don't look difficult at his place. I

914
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Speaker 2: can tell you that for nothing. The GDP figures came

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Speaker 2: out as we're away for the long weekend. Of course

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Speaker 2: you missed that zero point eight for Q one Reserve

917
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Speaker 2: Bank thought it would be zero point four. Most banks

918
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Speaker 2: thought it would be zero point seven. The reality was

919
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Speaker 2: better than everybody thought. Nick toughly asb's headman on economics.

920
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Speaker 2: He was also on the show Thursday, told us he

921
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Speaker 2: still had growth for the second quarter April May June,

922
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Speaker 2: so just gone. He edited zero point three zero point four.

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Speaker 2: So other commentary last week though from the Manufacturing and

924
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Speaker 2: Services said we'd hit a brick wall. If Nick is right,

925
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Speaker 2: there's no brick wall. The same way Q one was

926
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Speaker 2: not zero point four zero point eight. The point is this,

927
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Speaker 2: is it possible We're in such a funk we don't

928
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Speaker 2: want to see reality. You know what else I read? Australia,

929
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Speaker 2: the repository of so many dissillusioned New Zealanders, is now

930
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Speaker 2: losing more people than it has since COVID. A mass

931
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Speaker 2: exodus is on in Australia. What people are bailing out

932
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Speaker 2: of Australia healthcare is crik. You can't get seen. Governments

933
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Speaker 2: sinking in debt. House prices have spiked pasted an average

934
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Speaker 2: of a million dollars everywhere. More people than ever since

935
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Speaker 2: records began, are working multiple jobs just to make ends.

936
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Speaker 2: Make This is Australia, the golden answer for the miserable key.

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Speaker 2: We looking for better. Maybe better is here. Maybe in

938
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Speaker 2: a turbulent, troubled world, the land of the long white

939
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Speaker 2: cloud is actually coming right, and people like our mate

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Speaker 2: and his new business sees it. And a lot of

941
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Speaker 2: what's in front of us is attitude. Is there trouble

942
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: in some areas well? Of course there is? Are their

943
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: issues still unresolval, of course, But do we have growth

944
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Speaker 2: and prospect? Yes we do. To the numbers back that up,

945
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Speaker 2: and do they do. Maybe the grass is in fact

946
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Speaker 2: nice and just as green. You just gotta want to

947
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Speaker 2: see it. Asking Mike, Penrith is paying four forty at

948
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Speaker 2: the tab Saturday, most Penrith will have paid waited for

949
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Speaker 2: years for that sort of money. That's true. Actually we

950
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Speaker 2: were hot favorites, which is not to excuse the loss.

951
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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I'm not an apologist for losing.

952
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Speaker 2: And there were things we could have done that made

953
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Speaker 2: it better, but the less it wasn't one of those things.

954
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Speaker 2: It's not just it's not like the old days. Things

955
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Speaker 2: have changed, Mike. I don't understand why anyone would choose

956
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Speaker 2: to live in politically unstable countries. But Winston's final comment

957
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Speaker 2: proved exactly why his solid goals as a foreign ministry

958
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Speaker 2: seriously unmatched. I tend to agree, and I've said this before.

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Winston and he performs particularly well

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Speaker 2: in the foreign portfolio, and it might be just let

961
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Speaker 2: me join a couple of dots here and suggest this

962
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Speaker 2: to you and see what you think. If you look

963
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Speaker 2: at the poles, of which they've been three or four

964
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Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks, and they've been all

965
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Speaker 2: over the place, there's a couple of themes. One theme

966
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Speaker 2: is the government hasn't changed, so the government stays. They

967
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Speaker 2: win the election at the poll was right two. Some

968
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Speaker 2: have Labor up, some have National down, some have Hepkins up,

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Speaker 2: some have lux and down. But the consistent apart from

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Speaker 2: the fact the government doesn't change, is Peter's is up.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand first is up, not by a lot. They're

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Speaker 2: still a minor party, but they're sitting at about eight,

973
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Speaker 2: while others like Acting, the Mari Party and stuff are

974
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Speaker 2: all over the place depending on what poll you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: There is a consistency if you look at them, every

976
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Speaker 2: single poll had New Zealand First up. And I just

977
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Speaker 2: wonder if there's just an element of the Winston stability

978
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Speaker 2: in the Foreign Department. The Shane Jones and the headline

979
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Speaker 2: I'm make drilling great in the end thing and we

980
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Speaker 2: like a bit of humor and there just might be

981
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Speaker 2: for some New Zealanders a little bit of electoral magic there.

982
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Speaker 2: Crystal Luxon is in Europe standing by for the NATO

983
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Speaker 2: meeting sixteen more million dollars for the Ukrainians. He is

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Speaker 2: with us after the News, which is next.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the Mike

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Speaker 1: Hosking Break Bend with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 5: News Togsdad b twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three minutes away from Ete Sport afterlight. Of course, meantime,

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Speaker 2: we've found the Prime Minister in Europe this morning ahead

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Speaker 2: of the latest NATO meeting. Crystal luxers with us. Very

992
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Speaker 2: good morning to you today, Very well Indu. Before we

993
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Speaker 2: get to NATO itself related matters that Iran. How worried

994
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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

996
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Speaker 5: Look, I mean it is worrying.

997
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Speaker 15: We really need to see sort of diplomacy and dialogue

998
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Speaker 15: take place, because that's the way you get a solutions

999
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Speaker 15: what's needed. They're not more military action, frankly across the

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Speaker 15: Middle East and yeah it's you know, it's an area

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Speaker 15: ridden with conflict and it's of course huge amounts of

1002
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Speaker 15: pain are suffering for lots of people. But if you

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Speaker 15: want peace and stability in that region, you've got to

1004
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Speaker 15: be able to get the parties to get around the

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Speaker 15: table and have a negotiation. And hopefully now that's what

1006
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Speaker 15: can happen in the next few days and weeks.

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Speaker 2: Do you worry about things like the who most straight

1008
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Speaker 2: and the price of oil and inflation and the effect

1009
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Speaker 2: on the economy.

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Speaker 15: Yep, I mean, all of those things are possibilities. But

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Speaker 15: you know what we've got to encourage the regional players

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Speaker 15: and actors to do. And you know, let's acknowledge we're

1013
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 15: a small country that's a long long way away from

1014
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Speaker 15: this conflict, but you know it is in the world's

1015
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Speaker 15: interest to see stability in the region. And but you know,

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Speaker 15: more frankly, more military action isn't the way to deliver that.

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Speaker 15: You actually need to get the parties to want to

1018
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Speaker 15: come to the table. And you know, that's what I

1019
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Speaker 15: think everyone's exalting the parties and players to do post

1020
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Speaker 15: the strikes that we've seen over the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 15: So that's the opportunity now in front of the players

1022
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Speaker 15: to say, well, you know, you know, if you want,

1023
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Speaker 15: you've got to get to a political solution.

1024
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Speaker 5: Ultimately, that means you've got to show.

1025
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Speaker 15: Up and actually have a negotiation and an engage in.

1026
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Speaker 5: Some dialogue to do so.

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Speaker 2: Do you support what the Americans did?

1028
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Speaker 15: Well, again, we are what we want to see in

1029
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Speaker 15: the Middle East is not Iran with a nuclear weapon.

1030
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Speaker 15: We don't want to see, you know, Israel occupying Gaza.

1031
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Speaker 15: We don't want to see how mass holding on to hostages.

1032
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Speaker 15: You know, in all of those cases, the chances to

1033
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Speaker 15: sort of now get on and get into proper negotiations

1034
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Speaker 15: to get the region calm down and stable. Otherwise you're

1035
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Speaker 15: going to have endless military action and constant conflicts and

1036
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Speaker 15: that's going to cause huge you know, we've already seen

1037
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Speaker 15: the Yeah, just look at Gazam like, I mean, ninety

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Speaker 15: four percent of the hospitals are destroyed. You know, eighty

1039
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Speaker 15: percent of the people are displaced, one in five are

1040
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Speaker 15: now facing famine. So you know, you've got to be

1041
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Speaker 15: able to get round a table and have a sensible conversation.

1042
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Speaker 15: As difficult as that will be, Let's be clear, it'd

1043
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Speaker 15: be very difficult. But you know, carrying on the way

1044
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Speaker 15: that things are is not the way through those issues.

1045
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to China. Eight hundred and

1046
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Speaker 2: seventy one million dollars worth of business, which I'm glad

1047
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Speaker 2: because all I heard was a little bit of visa

1048
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Speaker 2: tweaking and one of the Chinese airlines are putting more

1049
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Speaker 2: seats on What business did we do with who, when's

1050
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Speaker 2: its start and who are they?

1051
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so look here's a good example.

1052
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Speaker 15: You've got about five hundred million people in the middle

1053
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Speaker 15: classes over there. You've got a massive cosmetic sector, and

1054
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Speaker 15: New Zealand's cosmetics companies and brands haven't been able to

1055
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Speaker 15: sell them too China, in part because we've got a

1056
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Speaker 15: different approach to animal testing. We have no animal testing

1057
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Speaker 15: in New Zealand. China demands animal testing on products to

1058
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Speaker 15: be sold in China. We found in pass through with

1059
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Speaker 15: the government there that actually enables us to make sure

1060
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Speaker 15: that we don't have our products tested on animals and

1061
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Speaker 15: it's acceptable to the Chinese. And that creates about two

1062
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Speaker 15: hundred million dollars for brands like Trilogy and Linden Leaves

1063
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Speaker 15: and Ecostore and Antipothies. Now, so you know, they are

1064
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Speaker 15: really really pumped because they've got great products with infused

1065
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Speaker 15: Kiwi products that the Chinese consumers.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely love, peculiar peculiarly.

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Speaker 15: Made for the Chinese market, and they couldn't sell them

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Speaker 15: into the mass retail market. They could only sell them

1069
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Speaker 15: through online channels. And that's about two hundred million dollars worth.

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Speaker 15: The thing that you're talking about, which is, you know,

1071
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Speaker 15: the Southern links, something I've been on about for the

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Speaker 15: last ten years, even when I was at in New Zealand,

1073
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Speaker 15: was that you've got this economic powerhouse called China, got

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Speaker 15: this other one called South America, and the fastest way

1075
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Speaker 15: to connect them is actually third than the complete antivities

1076
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Speaker 15: from each other, is actually through New Zealand and so

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Speaker 15: Auckland Airport becoming a freight hub between things about the

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Speaker 15: trade that happens between those two regions of the world,

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Speaker 15: and also the ability to bring Latin American tourists to

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Speaker 15: New Zealand as well as more Chinese tourists to New Zealand.

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Speaker 15: And then we supported that with the Transit fvisa. But

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Speaker 15: we needed an airline to actually make the connections, and

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Speaker 15: that's that's China Eastern who we were able to do

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Speaker 15: the deal with.

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Speaker 5: While we were in Shanghai. So I've also got four million.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I've also got four hundred million for the

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Speaker 2: primary sector. Is that over and above we already here

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Speaker 2: in two way? Yeah it is, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 15: It's just basically what's happened. I was really impressed, Mike.

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Speaker 15: You know, the literacy of the New Zealand exporters into

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Speaker 15: the Chinese market is very, very high. But they also

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Speaker 15: are working with really outstanding Chinese distribution partners. They're actually

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Speaker 15: able to sell those products into more of regional China

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Speaker 15: out and you've gotta remember this, one hundred and twenty

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00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 15: cities in China with populations over a million people. So

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Speaker 15: you know a lot of it was signing deals with

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Speaker 15: new partners that actually could get those products that we

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Speaker 15: sell out to more parts of China. So yeah, so

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Speaker 15: that's how that sort of works around dairy, hort and meat.

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Speaker 15: But you know, can we free on fire up there?

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Speaker 15: You know, dairy on fire up there? Red meat actually

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Speaker 15: a huge opportunity. Wine very small, fifty one million dollars

1103
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 15: only of wine sold, so huge opportunity for us to

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Speaker 15: grow wine into China as well. So yeah, a lot

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00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 15: of it is actually just them signing deals with better

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Speaker 15: and newer partners that actually can have Begger reach and

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Speaker 15: get the product to more Chinese consumers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so to the here and now you're in Brussels.

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Speaker 2: You meet the Dutch Prime Ministry as well, and NATO.

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Speaker 2: Anything tangible to come out of this week?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really, three things I'm focused on.

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Speaker 15: I'm in Belgium tonight because tomorrow morning I want to

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Speaker 15: meet with the European President and talk about the EUFTA.

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Speaker 5: As you know, that's gone up. We've grown about twenty

1115
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: five percent our ex sports and.

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Speaker 15: Other extra billion dollars out of just the European Union

1117
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Speaker 15: in the last twelve months. So I just wanted to

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Speaker 15: reinforce the trade component with them at the macro European

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Speaker 15: Union level. I'll have a heap of bilaterals. I'll keep

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Speaker 15: shifting around as we go through the weekend, but you know,

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Speaker 15: already I think I've got fifteen or so sort of slotted.

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00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 15: And to meet individual leaders of countries and do the

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Speaker 15: relationship between New Zealand and individual countries.

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Speaker 5: Netherlands is a great example.

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Speaker 15: They're a biggest investor from Europe into New Zealand and

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Speaker 15: I want to you know, I want to be able

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Speaker 15: to spend some time with the Dutch you know team

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Speaker 15: as well.

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Speaker 5: And then obviously NATO Peace.

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Speaker 15: Will be very focused on European security issues, and of

1131
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 15: course we're not there as members of NATO, we're there

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00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 15: as members of the Pacific Four, but we are affiliate

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00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 15: sort of partners. And there are some issues obviously like

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Speaker 15: Ukraine where you have North Korea providing munisions and troops

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Speaker 15: to Russia to fight a war in Ukraine that have

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Speaker 15: a huge impact and touch into our region as well.

1137
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 15: So it'll be a good interesting to see where everyone's

1138
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 15: heads are at on different issues, and particularly Ukraine and

1139
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 15: other issues are globally as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, domestic issue. Shane Jones gave a speech last week

1141
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: said we should get regional councils, should we.

1142
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 15: Well, we're working through the Resource Management Act. You know,

1143
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 15: I have a personal view that I think that's something

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00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 15: that we can explore as part of that Resource Management

1145
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 15: Act legislation at Chris Bishop's driving through.

1146
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 5: He'll bring a bill to the House before the end

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00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: of this year.

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Speaker 15: We'll be introduced into Parliament because we've got to change

1149
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 15: our RAMA laws pretty quickly. But I think we've got

1150
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 15: too many layers of government. Frankly, if I'm honest with you,

1151
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 15: and so whether it's district council's, regional council, central government,

1152
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 15: You've got a lot of farmers and folk that are

1153
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 15: having to present lots of different information and lots of

1154
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 15: different ways, and so I think that will naturally be

1155
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 15: explored as part of the RMA laws.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. I've thought you were going to say no, but

1157
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: this is good because I've did some work over the weekend.

1158
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: I've looked at every rate increase from every council in

1159
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: this country. It is shocking and it is adding to inflation.

1160
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: As regards what Bishop said last week about housing decisions

1161
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: and overriding councils. What can you do with anything about

1162
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: rates and general inflationary costs that are just being loaded

1163
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Speaker 2: upon us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah exactly.

1165
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 15: I mean, well, as I've been saying consistently, you know,

1166
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 15: there's a lot of councils doing some really dumb things

1167
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 15: and that is actually just adding costs. And there's a

1168
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 15: lot of it's vanity projects and nice to do stuff,

1169
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 15: not must do stuff. You know, we want them focus

1170
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 15: on the must do things and we want them adding really.

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Speaker 5: Good value to rate payers. So you know, we've looked,

1172
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 5: we've already floated out there.

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Speaker 15: We're very interested in rate rate caps arms we actually

1174
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 15: can capt the amount of rate increases.

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00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 5: You know, Simon wats is continuing to look at that

1176
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 5: piece of work.

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Speaker 15: I think there's also a lot to do around getting

1178
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 15: these councils to organize their finances and it gets very

1179
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 15: technical with their balance sheets and leverage them in the

1180
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 15: right way. If you think about Auckland, for example, you

1181
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 15: know Wayne Brown was contemplating a twenty four percent rate rise.

1182
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 15: We ended up putting the water care assets into a

1183
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Speaker 15: separate structure, a different entity, and that then therefore freedom

1184
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 15: up and he had eight hundred million dollars more. He

1185
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 15: did a six or seven percent rate increase from memory

1186
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 15: as a consequence of dealing with restructuring his finances in

1187
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Speaker 15: a much smarter way, using debt in a different way,

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Speaker 15: and some of those just being smart with the balance sheet.

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Speaker 5: The reasons some of that stuff in the worked.

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Speaker 2: Okay, for the record, we can look at fewer councils

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00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: and we can look at rate capping.

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00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, And the thing that I've talked to Algnz about

1193
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 15: is also there is actually some appetite from the local

1194
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 15: communities now for district councils to start to think about

1195
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 15: how they might work together. You've actually even got some

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Speaker 15: local mayors advocating for amalgamation, you know. And part of

1197
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 15: what's happening is as they work together on their regional

1198
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 15: city deals, you know, we don't want to deal with

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Speaker 15: each individual council. We want to do with group subregions

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00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 15: of New Zealand. As they work on how they're going.

1201
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 5: To structure their three Waters assets.

1202
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 15: They're getting some experience of working together and then you

1203
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 15: start to logically say, well, why do we have different councils,

1204
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 15: Why wouldn't we just work together permanently. So but that's

1205
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 15: got to be a bottom up driven thing. But for us,

1206
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 15: I think, you know, the RMA laws, we've really an

1207
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 15: opportunity for us to think about, have we over complicated

1208
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 15: the country and it's just taking too long to get

1209
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 15: stuff done and resource consented? And is there a better

1210
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 15: smarter way of doing some of that stuff? And then

1211
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 15: I think the counsels themselves, there's some things around using

1212
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 15: their balance sheets better and ultimately yeah, you know, looking

1213
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 15: at things like rates caps and stuff like that that

1214
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 15: forces them to make sure they're doing the basics well good.

1215
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Speaker 2: Sooner the better go well appreciate it. Chrystal Luxe and

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Speaker 2: out of Brussels for us this morning thirteen to.

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Speaker 1: Wake the Mic Asking Break First, a full show podcast

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Speaker 2: Mike Luxem's clearly on top of his game. Why is

1220
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: he not more popular?

1221
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 12: Pat?

1222
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Speaker 2: It's an interesting question. People see them as being more

1223
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: interested being overseas than they do domestically. You looked at

1224
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: the EPSOS poll the other day. Most of the issues,

1225
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: apart from the economy, are favored by labor. Talk to

1226
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: Mark and Jinny about that on Wednesday. It's an interesting topic. Mike.

1227
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: The answer isn't to get rid of the regional councils.

1228
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: It's to make them territorial authorities and get rid of

1229
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: all the rest. It would leave us with about twelve. Honestly,

1230
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 2: if we had half dozen councils in the country, would

1231
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: you notice the difference? Would you care? I'm just the

1232
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: reason I got all the numbers over the weekend for

1233
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: the councils. I'll come to it later on in the week,

1234
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 2: but I mean, I just thought I'm gonna go round

1235
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: every single council, for example, there's seventy something of them.

1236
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous by a plenty eight point two. Greater

1237
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: Wellington nine point seven, Hamilton fifteen point five, Hastings fifteen,

1238
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: hat City twelve point eight, Taranaki twelve point I mean

1239
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: it's a joke. No one else gets away with this nonsense.

1240
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: There is a couple in the country who you had

1241
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: roughly Okay Northland regional three, Why Tomo two point nine

1242
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: to three, wan Anui two point two? Who are Nui

1243
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: three point three? Just outside inflation, but at least it's

1244
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: not as you know Kluth of sixteen. I mean, come on, no,

1245
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: I'll come back to it later on the week when

1246
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: I got time right. Universities really quickly, so four of

1247
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: our eight have improved good. This is the QS World

1248
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: University Ranking fifteen hundred institutions, one hundred and six countries.

1249
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: University of Auckland highest ranked at sixty fifth. That's not changed,

1250
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: has always been the highest ranked, the other seventh between

1251
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 2: one ninety seven and four hundred and ten. A Tiger

1252
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Massy Victoria aut Up a Tiger returning to the top

1253
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: two hundred for the first time since twenty twenty two.

1254
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: That'll be Grant Robinson genius is slowly being spread. Overall

1255
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: average score of fifty one puts the country fifth in

1256
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: the world. And I listen to this where overall fifth

1257
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 2: in the world for overall quality of higher education, only

1258
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: Hong Kong, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland are better performing as for

1259
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: our friends in Australia. More shortly eight away from eight.

1260
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Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Breakfast with the Defender Octurn News toks

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Speaker 1: dead b Yeah.

1262
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Speaker 2: So the only countries out perform us in terms of

1263
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: overall university education and quality of Hong Kong, the Netherlands,

1264
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: Sweden and Switzerland. It's not bad as mit America their

1265
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: first Imperial College and Stamford one, two and three. But

1266
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 2: in Australia on the same rankings, they've slipped a turbulent years.

1267
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: What they're calling it, it's a wake up call. And

1268
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: they talk of growing competition in the region. Now when

1269
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: they say the region, they talk about us. So this

1270
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: whole thing, and I was trying to raise it earlier

1271
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: on in the program, this whole thing about Australia's got

1272
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: to be yenograss as greener and oh it's fantastic and

1273
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: let's all go there. They've got major, major problems. Any

1274
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: number of articles I've been reading in the last couple

1275
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: of weeks. Getting into the healthcare system in Australia's nine impossible.

1276
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: The cost of housing is nine impossible. As I said earlier,

1277
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: there are more people working multiple jobs than there ever

1278
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: have been since records began. University of Melbourne slipped six

1279
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: places from thirteen to nineteen, so they still beat us.

1280
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: Their top university still beats ours by a considerable margin,

1281
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: but twenty five of their university's dropped last year, so

1282
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: at least they're taking it seriously and they are worried

1283
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: about it. But my insurance for houses, cars increases in

1284
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: the past twelve months and in huge twenty to thirty

1285
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: eight percent. Private medical assurance sixteen percent. I see. I

1286
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: don't want to defend the insurance industry, but they can

1287
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: cite storms, floods, damage. They can say, see that over there,

1288
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: because of that, we need to charge you more. Now

1289
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm not defending it. I'm just saying they've got an explanation.

1290
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: Private medicals not dissimilar. Councils don't have the same thing. Oh,

1291
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: they'll tell you the pipes are old, and we put

1292
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: up too many Mari road signs and all the rest

1293
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: of it. But at the end of the day, somebody's

1294
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: got to do something about it because they're not going

1295
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Speaker 2: to and so that's where this idea. I thought Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones was just being Shane Jones getting rid of original councils.

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Speaker 2: But as you heard from the Prime Minister this morning,

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Speaker 2: it seems to be seems to be real, It seems

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Speaker 2: to be a thing, and they cannot get on with

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00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: that fast enough. Andrew Savill, Jason Pine. They're in the

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Speaker 2: commentary box and that is next after the news, which

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Speaker 2: is in a couple of momencery reviews.

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Speaker 5: Tools.

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Speaker 1: He'd be setting the agenda and talking the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the Conking, Breakfast with al Vida, retirement, communities, life your Way,

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Speaker 1: news talks, head brooms, no wrong, no run Come.

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Speaker 15: I still come to Walker and get the victory over

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00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 15: the Warriors twenty eight points to eighteen.

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Speaker 18: Alcome, plaster Boats, a Little Tops, the True Siders of Donuts,

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Speaker 18: The Redemption Ark is the plates Hosni side, The cru

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Speaker 18: Siders return to Podker. They've won the final six stay

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Speaker 18: nights at All.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary box on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Let's cover off Jason Pines with us along with Andrew

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Speaker 2: Seild Morning guys, Mon, Mike Scott Dixon. Six laps to go.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna win it till he runs out of petrol,

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Speaker 2: has to for a splash and dash and comes ninth.

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Speaker 11: How do you explain that?

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Speaker 2: He seems to I'm no expert, but he seems to

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: coast a lot. They quite well, they're trying to run

1323
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Speaker 2: the car as close to zero as they can. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: wait and he's very very good at coasting and holding

1325
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: off or lifting as they say in the game. But

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Speaker 2: obviously something went wrong. The calculation didn't work. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: one moment you first, next moment you're out of gas,

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Speaker 2: and the next thing you mind you Armstrong came fifth,

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Speaker 2: which I'm assuming is a result. I think it'll be

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Speaker 2: his best results so far. So here's a good story, right,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Okay, So the rugby, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to spend too long on it because it's several

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: days old now, but I mean, were they Andrew ever

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Speaker 2: going to lose at home.

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Speaker 19: Look, the Chiefs had a fantastic chance and there are

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Speaker 19: a couple of bounces of the ball, a couple of

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Speaker 19: key calls that I think were correct.

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Speaker 11: Near the end that.

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Speaker 19: Scrum penalty Fletcher Nule I thought was outstay. He'll be

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Speaker 19: a big loss for the All Blacks against France. But yeah,

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Speaker 19: with that home advantage, they are very, very hard to be. Yes,

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Speaker 19: teams can beat them during the regular season in christ Church,

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Speaker 19: but when it comes to play, clearly they just lift immensely.

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Speaker 19: That performance on Saturday night reaped of old school Crusader

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01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 19: big defense, calls and tight moments, big.

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Speaker 11: Crowd, great atmosphere and great support.

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Speaker 19: And yeah, it just had that of an inevitable look

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Speaker 19: of it, especially the last twenty thirty.

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Speaker 2: And Jason for Rob Penny, what a great story because

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Speaker 2: he's a great guy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, loved it, Mike. I was lucky enough to be

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Speaker 12: there on Saturday night. And you forget how much Crusaders

1353
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 12: fans love the Crusaders until you go to a game.

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Speaker 12: There just incredible atmosphere and yeah, it was in the

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Speaker 12: coaches just in front of the coach's box, turned around

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Speaker 12: at the end and there's Rob Penny just with a

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Speaker 12: very satisfied smile on his face, looking down, and and

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Speaker 12: every time I look down onto the field and the

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Speaker 12: celebrations afterwards, I was sort of drawn to Rob Penny,

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Speaker 12: just quietly but happily celebrating. Man. He went through a

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Speaker 12: lot last year. He was really under the pump more

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Speaker 12: than any Crusaders coach I think in history. So yeah,

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Speaker 12: redemption for him, the player is all said afterwards. We

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Speaker 12: did that for our coach, So yeah, that was a

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Speaker 12: pretty cool story.

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Speaker 2: Well you'll be back, won't you. I mean, this business,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, you know, I don't know where's he going?

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Speaker 11: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I don't go fishing. I think you'll go fishing. I

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Speaker 12: think he's I mean, there's a temptation to come back,

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Speaker 12: right because you want to go again. But there's also

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Speaker 12: that old adage, isn't it you go out on top?

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Speaker 12: It's hard to do sometimes, But I'm not sure that

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Speaker 12: he will be back.

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Speaker 19: Mike, does he want does he want that again? Does

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Speaker 19: he want another season?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yused have won the title obviously, but does he want

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Speaker 11: to go through that again?

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Speaker 2: He's only what is he sixty one? He's sixty one

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Speaker 2: or two.

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Speaker 11: He's not. He's not old at all in coaching terms.

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Speaker 19: No, I think you do something again. Now, let's not

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Speaker 19: forget he was signed for two years once Scott Robertson

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Speaker 19: got the All Black job. Penny was signed for a

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Speaker 19: couple of years with a view to bringing someone through,

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Speaker 19: that someone being I think Tomody Allison or others. And

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Speaker 19: then Alison has gone to the All Black so that's

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Speaker 19: fallen over. So he can he can stay on his

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Speaker 19: terms and leave on his terms probably.

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Speaker 2: OK, fair enough. Now what about Andrew Peter Berling. Now

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Speaker 2: there's the story iring, that's the story of the weekend,

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Speaker 2: because it's been a long time since we've seen major

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Speaker 2: name shipped between teams. Yeah, and you got the two part.

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Speaker 2: And not only is he gone, but he's also I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's going to sail. Is he well?

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Speaker 19: Under the rules? I don't think he can because you can't.

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Speaker 19: If you sailed in the last Cup, you can't sail

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Speaker 19: on a boat in this Cup. I think that's the rule.

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Speaker 19: There are changes to the protocol and to the rules

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Speaker 19: about nationality, but I think that rule may well stand, which.

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Speaker 11: Would which would restrict Burling's involvement. So what are you getting?

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Speaker 2: I mean you're getting what are you getting? You're getting

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Speaker 2: institutional and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 11: I get exactly.

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Speaker 19: You're getting his you're getting his engineering skills, you're getting

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Speaker 19: his design skills, you're getting all that intellectual property as

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 19: well from from teams. It's a great purchase by Luna Rosser.

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01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 19: Another team was always going to pick them up, but

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Speaker 19: Mike doesn't. Doesn't the America's Cup just start to have

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Speaker 19: a whiff of a poor man's sale.

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Speaker 11: GP sal no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you've oversld that. I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It's not the poor Man's America's Cup or theos not

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Speaker 2: big enough yet, but but it needs to the advantage

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Speaker 2: of GP has got this. They've got a lot of entries,

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of events. It's exciting. People seem

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Speaker 2: to be into it. And once every three or four years,

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01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: the America's Cup, you know, comes along, goes, oh, here's

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01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: three countries who've decided.

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Speaker 19: There's going to be t New Zealand, there's going to

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Speaker 19: be some sort of British entry you to show, and

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Speaker 19: there's going to be Lunar Rosser.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's it's downside. It needs more of that.

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01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: It needs some sort of tie up, it needs some

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Speaker 2: sort of fizz to it.

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Speaker 11: It's not there.

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Speaker 19: And the nationality, the national team field, I think that's.

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Speaker 2: Long gone out the window exactly. I don't mind that.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't fear less about that. I'm not into that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't follow teams. I mean you look

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Speaker 2: at the Houston Rockets. You're following Houston Rockets because they're

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: a good sit or because Steven Adams plays with them.

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01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, just being on the boat thing, Mike, the thing

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Speaker 12: for Peter Burling. He's always struck me as a guy

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01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 12: who wants to be out on the water. He wants

1437
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 12: to have the ocean spray in his face.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: But and I've heard all this stuff about how he

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01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 12: adds a lot of value to I don't think he's

1442
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 12: sure of a bob Mike. I think he'll probably be okay.

1443
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 12: But I feel like he's a sailor. He wants to

1444
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 12: be out there and he can do that in sal Gp.

1445
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 12: Perhaps he scratches at it and he's he's an off

1446
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 12: the water. Whatever he does, he'll be an asset.

1447
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 19: If you offered seven figure some per year to go

1448
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 19: and help another team win the America's Cup in Italy.

1449
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 19: We're Team New Zealand.

1450
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 11: Had to end it. Let's not forget that.

1451
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 19: That's that's quite a tragg of end. Take it off

1452
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 19: the team where you had a little bit of a

1453
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 19: falling out. I would imagine with this.

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01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: With the with the boss.

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01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair cor brief break more on the moment, Andrew Sevil,

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: Jason Pine fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By.

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: News Talks at b seventeen past eight.

1459
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary box on the Mike Husking Breakfast

1460
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

1461
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Should I interrupt my lunch Jason for the naming of

1463
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: the squad.

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 12: I think I'm interested to find out who the new

1465
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 12: guys are, Mike. I don't think we'll see anywhere near

1466
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 12: as many as last year. I think Razor brought ten

1467
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 12: new all blacks on board across last year, and I

1468
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 12: don't think there'll be anything close to that this year.

1469
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 12: I'm keen to see what he does with the loose forwards,

1470
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 12: whether there's room for duplasy Khalifi. I hope there is.

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01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 12: For Christian Leo Willie again. I hope there is what

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Speaker 12: he does with Mark Talaya. Sam will more about this,

1473
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 12: but I get the feeling that he won't be involved

1474
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 12: given the fact that he's heading off shore, and just

1475
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 12: a couple of players who perhaps haven't quite delivered at

1476
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 12: Super Raby level this year, who have been established all blacks.

1477
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 12: Will they be okay for their spots. I'm just interested

1478
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,959
Speaker 12: to see, Yes the names Sam.

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Speaker 19: I think there'll be a few names in there, Mike,

1480
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 19: and there'll be a host of regulars.

1481
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 11: Obviously.

1482
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 19: Ethan Blackadder, I think has played his way in the

1483
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 19: more he stays injury for the better he gets. Clearly

1484
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 19: he's been huge for the Crusaders the last few weeks.

1485
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 19: New names Fabian Holland to Hyland is luck. He's a huge,

1486
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 19: hulking man. I think he'll do okay at test level.

1487
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 19: I just he's going to pick yes much bigger thank you,

1488
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 19: Scott Robertson. I hope that if he does pick new faces,

1489
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 19: that he uses them. It's a balancing act this French series.

1490
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 19: I think the French will come still with a few

1491
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 19: big names and the All Blacks will need to win obviously,

1492
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 19: so there may be some juggling in the first first

1493
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 19: couple of test matches, but no, there'll be some intriguing

1494
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 19: in the micro sure there always Well.

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: He's now Jason. Do you know Jason the boss here

1496
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: at z B. Yes, I know, right, So he's away

1497
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: today on personal matters. But which is just as well,

1498
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: because I was informed not long ago that he had

1499
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: twenty dollars on the Panthers to win.

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 12: What there's that is it?

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, he's done well. It's not he's

1502
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: done well. There's not the fact he's done well, Andrew,

1503
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: it's the fact he's a traitor.

1504
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 19: But he's probably having a day off and he's on

1505
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 19: a flight to Fiji or something.

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01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: Four bucks twenty bucks, you get, Sadie, that's not bad.

1507
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's at that point again that I can't remember

1508
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 12: the Panther's being four dollars against anybody.

1509
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: That's true.

1510
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 12: I know they've had a different season, but I don't know.

1511
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 19: I had the look of an old Warriors performance and

1512
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 19: that game is supposed to win.

1513
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I didn't see it. I couldn't see it.

1514
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: I thought it was you know, like we got some

1515
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 2: injuries and we didn't play as well as we might have,

1516
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: but they played well. I thought Pens played well because

1517
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: they are a good side that's just had a weird season.

1518
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 11: But how you half a team and still yeah.

1519
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 2: Well, because they've got depth. But I'm not worried about it, Andrew.

1520
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is look at the top four where

1521
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 2: we're at. We're so we're fourth, which I don't think

1522
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: it is true anyway, but there's a six point You

1523
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: realize the six point gap between fourth and fifth.

1524
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, when you're playing the Penrith team missing half aside

1525
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 19: because of origin, and you're playing the home are the

1526
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 19: games the nail?

1527
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: Well, what about my argument, we've done so well so far,

1528
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: you're going to lose. Everyone's going to lose a couple.

1529
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: Everyone's going to lose a couple. Look at the top

1530
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: of the table, the Bulldogs, how many they lost? They've

1531
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: lost too mm hmm.

1532
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 12: Raiders lost, The Crusaders lost at home, didn't they. The

1533
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 12: Crusaders lost at home to Malina Pacifica And on Saturday

1534
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, Well on.

1535
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: Jason, that's why you're on the show. See said, that's

1536
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: the sort of positive.

1537
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 19: I'm not saying give up all their seasons in but

1538
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 19: the other games you've got to nail.

1539
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: No, not necessarily. You can lose a few along the way,

1540
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: as long as you play well when it counts. Isn't

1541
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: that right, my friend Jason.

1542
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 12: Well, I would have thought so. Well, Look, I think

1543
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 12: they should have won the game. I mean, you're right,

1544
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 12: everything pointed to a warrior's whin. Yeah, but yeah, I

1545
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 12: don't think your hand had any silverware in the middle

1546
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 12: of June, did right?

1547
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: Do you know what I thoroughly enjoyed. I watched the Supercars.

1548
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 2: Neither of you two will have watched the Supercars, did

1549
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: you No?

1550
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 11: I saw a little bit of it. Might the key

1551
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 11: we said the.

1552
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: Kyle Ellen, Ryan Wood and Kyle Ellen. So you can

1553
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: add now to Matt Pain, which we've been going on

1554
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: about all season, Kyle and Ryan Wood. I mean, that's

1555
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: a lot of young ki we talent doing really, really

1556
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: well and they're up against some of the best drivers

1557
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: in the world and they're winning. So that was a

1558
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: very successful weekend. So you can't argue with that, can you?

1559
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 11: If Evans from the Evans.

1560
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: Brood who Evans.

1561
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 11: Like Evans?

1562
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: Kile Ellen I said, Kyle Ellen and Ryan sorry Evans, Yeah,

1563
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: the Evans are. Yes, it's the sun Evan. Mitch Evans

1564
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: is the son off. But that's a completely different form

1565
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: of racing. So not only are your negative at Andrew,

1566
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: you're on complete.

1567
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 19: I didn't say race Evans is in the supercars. I

1568
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 19: thought you said there isn't evens in the supercar.

1569
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is actually, and that's now become a good

1570
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: question and I'll need to find out what the answer

1571
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: to that is. Anyway, while I do that, you guys

1572
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: go and have some breakfast and get on with your

1573
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: day and we'll catch up with your next Monday house.

1574
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: That sound hope, I hope none of you are getting

1575
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: a train today. There's no trains today. By the way,

1576
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: you're aware of that.

1577
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 11: There's never any trains on.

1578
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: Well, said Andrew Savill and Jason Pine eight twenty two.

1579
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs.

1580
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: They'd be now whether it's a logistics firm monitoring delivery

1581
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: US in real time or a tech startup demanding seamless connectivity.

1582
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: Kiwi businesses depend on the strong, the reliable networks. Of course,

1583
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: with more than two thousand cell sites. We got forty

1584
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: six hundred kilometers of fiber. Two degrees delivers will class

1585
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: networks that keep businesses connected nationwide. So they're invested. They've

1586
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: invested over a billion a billion dollars into the infrastructure

1587
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: that empowers local companies to succeed, making them the fastest

1588
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: growing telco in the business space. They're so confident by

1589
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: the way and their network that they offer a thirty

1590
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 2: day network guarantee. So join the thousands of chip businesses

1591
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: already thriving with two degrees. Try it out, make the

1592
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: switch to two degrees. Switch telcos stay connected. Simple as that.

1593
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 2: Get to business two degrees dot in z Ford slash business.

1594
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: You got that two degrees dot in z Ford slash business.

1595
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: T's and c's apply. Pasky Jackson Evans is not related

1596
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: to our own mature simon. Doesn't mean he's not a

1597
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: good guy though, just not related. Lakers are going for

1598
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: ten billion in terms of valuation. So the Bus family,

1599
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: which have owned them forever, in fact they purchased them

1600
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine, going to flick them on. They

1601
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: reckon that's going to value them at about ten billion.

1602
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: You say, is that a lot of Money's tremendous amount

1603
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: of money sports investment, as I keep telling you on

1604
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 2: this program's going through the roof. Currently, the Giants are

1605
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: looking for a to flick about ten percent. Giants as

1606
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: in the Football New York Giants are looking to flick

1607
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: about ten percent. And if they get the ten percent

1608
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: at the money they want, that would value them at

1609
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: in excess of ten billion dollars. So buying into American

1610
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: sports teams is big, big business. Stephen Price is across

1611
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: the Tasman this Monday morning. The News is next on

1612
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking Breakfast. He would use talks Edben.

1613
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: The Breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the known

1614
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most

1615
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 1: powerful defender ever made, and use talks dead be.

1616
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,440
Speaker 2: The government got plenty from our position when it reinstated

1617
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: interest deduction on rental's claiming it was necessary to stabilize

1618
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,520
Speaker 2: or reduce rental costs, and so it has the oppositions

1619
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: going quite It's a very good point. We gave you

1620
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: the rental numbers rental generally around the country are going backwards,

1621
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: which is not necessarily good for the landlord, but it

1622
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: has adjusted the market and it's easier to rent than

1623
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: it has been. And you are correct, speaking of which,

1624
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: if you want to do a bit of reading today,

1625
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: there wasn't a bad piece. David Seymour did a couple

1626
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: of interesting things. One, as you'll be aware that he

1627
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: went to Oxford. Was it last week of the week before,

1628
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. He's in a debate. What I didn't realize

1629
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: and this is what he outlines in his Herald article.

1630
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: I went to the headliners. I went to Oxford to

1631
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: test my beliefs and learned a sad thing about New Zealand.

1632
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: The sad thing he learned about New Zealand's interesting and

1633
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: well worth reading. What I didn't realize, And of course

1634
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: the Oxford debate comes out of the famous long E line.

1635
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: He mentions that he lost, but of course he was

1636
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: part of a team, and I don't know how many

1637
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: people were aware of that. He was part of quite

1638
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: a large team. And two teams debate, and then the

1639
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: people listening then go out different doors yay or nay

1640
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 2: type doors like parliaments of old. So he makes a

1641
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: couple of really interesting points about that other thing the

1642
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 2: act Party did over the weekend was posted an interview

1643
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: that Seymour did with John Campbell of TV and Z

1644
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: and these days increasingly act of filming everything they do.

1645
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: They've been doing it for a while on what they

1646
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: call the tiles in the middle of Parliament. So when

1647
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: you see the guys on the news and they're wandering

1648
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: through on the tiles on the way to the Parliament,

1649
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: act of filming the whole thing and what they're trying

1650
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: to do get around the way the media portrays them.

1651
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: And they make a very good point because of course

1652
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: what you see on the news, particularly at night, is

1653
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: like ten seconds worth of this and fifteen seconds worth

1654
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: of that, and it doesn't automatically or invariably ever tell

1655
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: you the complete and full story. And so they film

1656
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 2: it themselves, stick it on their own website so you

1657
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: can see it in totality and you can make up

1658
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: your mind. Now the John Campbell interview and the way

1659
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: he handled himself or didn't handle himself when Seymour entered

1660
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: the room. It's the stuff that would never make it

1661
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: to air. It is a fascinating watch. And so there's

1662
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: a couple of things you can do today if you're

1663
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: not waiting for the all black naming twenty one minutes

1664
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: away from.

1665
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance, peace of mind

1666
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

1667
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: So you see, Prius, very good morning to you, Ronnie.

1668
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: So the world's involved, of course when we're watching and waiting.

1669
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: Two questions, what's Australia do Are they involved in any way,

1670
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,560
Speaker 2: shape or form? And two what about Australian stuck in

1671
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: that part of the world and what are you doing

1672
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: about that?

1673
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 20: On the first point, without overstating it, I'd have to

1674
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 20: say the Australian American relationship is probably at one of

1675
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 20: the lowest levels I can ever remember in my lifetime.

1676
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 20: It was extraordinary. Yesterday we were waiting and waiting and

1677
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 20: waiting all day long for some reaction out of Canberra

1678
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 20: as to what they thought of Donald Trump's attack on

1679
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 20: the nuclear facilities in Iran.

1680
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, when it.

1681
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 20: Came, it was so bland as to almost be non existent.

1682
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 20: At the time the bombing was taking place, out of

1683
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 20: Defense Minister as a boat by the name of Richard Miles.

1684
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 20: He was on Sky News and he was still there

1685
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 20: talking about de escalation and how we need peace in

1686
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 20: our time, and we shouldn't be doing anything to upset

1687
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 20: anybody too much. I'm paraphrasing there obviously, but it was

1688
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 20: very embarrassing. I mean, no one knew that mid morning

1689
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 20: on a Sunday in this part of the world that

1690
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 20: we were going to learn of this remarkable attack by

1691
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 20: the US on the run. But Richard Miles just looked

1692
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 20: silly and stupid, and then that statement came out, which

1693
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 20: basically said, you know, it's a volatile area. We know

1694
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 20: the US President has said it's now time for peace.

1695
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 20: I mean, this is a country, Australia, which has a

1696
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 20: number of vital US Australian joint defense bases, one of

1697
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 20: the most important being a place called the Northwest Shelf

1698
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 20: in Wa. Now that is perfectly situated and has been

1699
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 20: used for since the mid sixties for communication to the

1700
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 20: United States submarine fleet because it's so clear and has

1701
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 20: great line of sight, and we know those submarines were

1702
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 20: used yesterday to fire off Tomahawk missions, so very clearly.

1703
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 20: I mean, we'll never know, but you would imagine that

1704
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 20: the Northwest Shelf communications base was used in the attack

1705
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 20: on the run itself. But do we have the Prime

1706
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 20: Minister come out and saying anything. No, what happens now

1707
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 20: about this so called visit He's going to make the

1708
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 20: NATO to catch up with Donald Trump. I mean, if

1709
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 20: if you've got an ally, don't you support them?

1710
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: No exactly, but is he going well, last I read

1711
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 2: the way, is he actually going in? Is there a

1712
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: meeting locked inn or is this going to be Is

1713
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: he going to like literally chasing around the world.

1714
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 11: Well, we still don't know.

1715
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 20: I mean the presumption was after the debarkle of the

1716
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 20: G seven that he would, but he may now just

1717
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 20: send the bloke I mentioned, Richard Marsa to not be

1718
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 20: embarrassed if Donald Trump again refuses to sit down and

1719
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 20: talk to him. So I think the latter will probably

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Speaker 20: have on the evacuation. On the evacuation situation, we have

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Speaker 20: had three Air Force C seven een Blodmaster planes flying

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Speaker 20: to Dubai. We've got access to an air base just

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Speaker 20: new Debai called Al Minhad. The first one got there

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Speaker 20: on Friday night. Now what's happening is Australians who want

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Speaker 20: to get out of Israel as opposed to Iran being

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Speaker 20: taken by bus across the border into Jordan, and then

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Speaker 20: the airspace around Jordan has opened up, and so they're

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Speaker 20: able to be flown out at Jordan into Dubai and

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Speaker 20: then the Air Force will bring them home. How many

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Speaker 20: people will get back that way, I'm not sure. The

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Speaker 20: first group has come back. So there's three C seventeens

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Speaker 20: operating and I would only imagine that if New Zealanders

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Speaker 20: wanted to access that they would probably be able to.

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure the.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of miles. I read an article over the weekend

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Speaker 2: Keating have viscerated and this has more to do with

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Speaker 2: China or a moment when an Australian labor government intellectually

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Speaker 2: ceded to Australia to the United States as a platform

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Speaker 2: for the US and by implication, Australia for military engagement

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Speaker 2: against the Chinese state in response to a threat China

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Speaker 2: as alleging. Anyway, is this Keating being Keating or does

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Speaker 2: he make a reasonable point.

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Speaker 20: Heading being Tating? I mean he's always for years now

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Speaker 20: spoken up on behalf of China. I don't think we

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01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 20: need to go any further about that for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: ACDC it's on is it? Oh my god?

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Speaker 20: Have you not got dates?

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Speaker 2: I haven't got dates? You got dates?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 13: I ever?

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01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: I couldn't give them monkeys.

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01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, the.

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Speaker 20: Greatest rock band in the world. Power Up is the

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01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 20: name of the series. They're at the Mighty mcg on

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Speaker 20: November twelve Stadium, Yes, November twenty one in Sydney. They're

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Speaker 20: actually performing at a V eight Supercars event in Avlaide

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01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 20: on the thirtieth of November, and then Perth on December

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Speaker 20: four and Brisbane on December fourteen. They sold one point

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Speaker 20: seven million tickets in one day for their European leg

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Speaker 20: of that too, are one point seven million spent ten

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Speaker 20: years since they've been here. Tickets are going to cost

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Speaker 20: you one hundred and thirty two dollars and forty five

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Speaker 20: percent one ticket, and there's no pre sales. So the

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Speaker 20: band sold five hundred and twenty thousand tickets when they

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Speaker 20: last too here in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I reckon they still got a little bit old. I'd

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01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: worry about age huge.

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Speaker 20: Well, you can't be ag just like that, And look

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Speaker 20: at Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. I'm still on television.

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Speaker 20: Well I am until tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well I was going to say, funnily enough, you say,

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Speaker 2: is tonight your last night? Yes? On the project? Yeah,

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01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: and so will that be because I read something over

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Speaker 2: the weekend there was a person who appears on a

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: Friday or whatever and she burst into tears. Are you

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01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: going to burst into tears? What's going to happen?

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Speaker 20: There be tears, be tears for sure?

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01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: Will there be tears that they'll miss you? Or you'll

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01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: have tears that you won't be back? How do you

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01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: think that'll work?

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01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 20: I think they'll be crimes crime with joy that they

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01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 20: weren't me.

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Speaker 2: Well, you enjoy it tonight. We'll catch up on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. The project if you weren't aware

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Speaker 2: In Australia, we talked about it the other day's when

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01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: canceled and it finishes this Thursday or Friday. But Steve

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Speaker 2: appears each Monday night, so that'll be his last appearance

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Speaker 2: after fifteen or sixteen years. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: At be.

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Speaker 14: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Have you read page nineteen of the Herald? That's an

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01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: old fashioned way of saying it isn't page nineteen, meaning

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Speaker 2: you've got a hard copy of it on Clarkson's farm,

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Speaker 2: Suggesting you be the new Zealand Clarkson very funny. I

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Speaker 2: have actually read several people texted me earlier on It's

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Speaker 2: not a bad Peace. Actually a guy called Glenn Dwight

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Speaker 2: wrote it, and I can't remember. He's got me as

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Speaker 2: the farmer. He's got Caleb. I don't know who he's

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Speaker 2: recommending for Caleb.

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Speaker 11: He just wants a young farmer.

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Speaker 2: He just wants a young farmer as a Caleb.

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Speaker 9: Did we just sort of drive past a farm, put

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Speaker 9: a bag over his head and pull him into the.

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Speaker 2: Rab I've got. He's got John Key as Charlie, which

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 2: I thought was quite good. It's got real potential. But

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Speaker 2: the big question is who's dual Hey ac DC drummer

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Speaker 2: Michaels and Towroing. It's true. I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 2: Was it Phil somebody the drummer from ac DC, I

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Speaker 2: can't remember. Lives in Towering. Had a very nice house

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Speaker 2: on the waterfront there and every now and again. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's still true, but he had a

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Speaker 2: very nice house and even nicer house I thought. But

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Speaker 2: if you played at the Omo Karoa golf course, you

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01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 2: would hear on a Sunday morning just this U goodly

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: amount of music and you thought, oh, that's old what's

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Speaker 2: his name's house? Then yeah, Phil ram just too anyway,

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01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: so you listen to old Phil and his music and

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Speaker 2: you think, I wonder if he is actually playing that

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Speaker 2: or he's just got the music, you know, wound up

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Speaker 2: on the stereo. Anyway, he sold that and he moved

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Speaker 2: to the waterfront apparently. But then every now and again,

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Speaker 2: if you followed the car listings, you'd see a really

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01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 2: cool car listed and you thought, what's what's a Lamborghini

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Speaker 2: Merchi a Lago doing in tower On And chances are

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Speaker 2: it was Phil's moving as Garret John which brings me

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Speaker 2: to the Best Restaurants in the World. For the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five list of the world's fifty best restaurants, the

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Speaker 2: Oscars of Innovative Fine Dining, they had a ceremony over

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01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: the weekend in Turin and Miido is the best restaurant

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Speaker 2: in the world. It's in Lima, which I would have

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Speaker 2: thought in and of itself is sort of an impediment

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Speaker 2: because how many people end up going to Lima. A

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Speaker 2: third best restaurant in the world is in Mexico City.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, first of all, you've got to get

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Speaker 2: to these places. The only one I got, Wing is

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Speaker 2: quite a famous one. If you ever want to go

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Speaker 2: to a nice restaurant in Hong Kong, Wing is particularly famous.

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Speaker 2: And the other one I Owedette, which I happen to

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Speaker 2: have been to, I've been to a debt in Singapore

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01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: and it's one of those places if it's the same

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Speaker 2: place I'm thinking. In fact, I went with my brother.

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01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: Katie was there, but he came along. But it was

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Speaker 2: one of those places they ended up hating us because

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Speaker 2: it was one of those places that you chose a

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 2: tasting menu and from memory it was either something that

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01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. It was like ten, twelve, fifteen or twenty

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01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: tasting dishes, and as each one came along, they were said, well,

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Speaker 2: we'll go for the for the twelve fourteen or whatever

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Speaker 2: it was. Then we started asking if they could change them,

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Speaker 2: and we go, well, I'm the one with the mushroom,

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01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: can you take the mushroom off? And so by the

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 2: time we'd done that about.

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Speaker 5: So it's a high maintenance.

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Speaker 8: When her he met Sally kind of very much.

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Speaker 2: So by the time we'd asked about the fourth time,

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Speaker 2: they were just completely over nine away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veda retirement Communities news

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Speaker 1: dogs had been I.

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Speaker 2: Suppose it's some good news miss because of the bombing

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, But the US restarted student visa appointments. Internationally,

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Speaker 2: they're going to significantly there were not mine significantly tight

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Speaker 2: and social media vetting a comprehensive and thorough vetting bear

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Speaker 2: people who bear hostile attitudes towards our citizens, culture, government institutions,

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Speaker 2: or founding principles. They're looking for applicants who demonstrate a

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Speaker 2: history of political activism, especially when it's associated with violence

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Speaker 2: or with views with activities described above, you must consider

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Speaker 2: the likelihood they will continue such activity. In the United

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Speaker 2: States still a fraught time if you're a young New

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Speaker 2: Zealander looking to you know, scholarship and an American university.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it five minutes away from nine?

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse celebrate big brands and bigger savings.

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Speaker 10: But if one of the.

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Speaker 2: Moment any where the biggers of.

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Speaker 14: That for in the Crown and a John one of stop.

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Speaker 2: Down from the movie f one which opens it last

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. It's been open for about three and a

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Speaker 2: half years now, but I suppose you saw more of

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01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: it if you follow the f one. They've just been

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01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: part of the record coverage seemingly forever. This is the

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01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 2: theme song I got.

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01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 19: Got on that side, but bar it's called drive the Limit.

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01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: It says here you recognize the voice for like when

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Speaker 2: going down, but the bath and the textually quickly now

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Speaker 2: if you don't, we can by. It's produced by John Mayer.

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01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: We're going through a John Mayer revival of our house role.

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Speaker 2: One of us was, I said, why are we playing

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Speaker 2: so much John Mayer? And she said, well, I'm just

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: going through a John Mayer revival. It turns out he's

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Speaker 2: got a lot of music. I never realized how much

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Speaker 2: music he's got. A tremendous amount of music would lasted

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01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 2: most of the day, says here d hearing see, I

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01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 2: still wouldn't recognize it when you tell me. Produced by

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01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: John Mayer. Rolls there as well. On the drums, we

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Speaker 2: got Sharon, we got Rose, you know, Rose got Roddy

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Speaker 2: rich Tate McCrae got the doom j Cat he doesn't

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Speaker 2: love the doge. And we got this from my man

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Speaker 2: Chris seventies California. Isn't it the seventies California type drive.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, how old is the drive? I can't believe.

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: How was he supposed to be? He's in his fifties.

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01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: You know what he would have been around fifties California,

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Speaker 2: wasn't He's in the fifties? And is Chris actually on

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01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: this or is he just wanted me to team? I

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Speaker 2: feel like I was checked into playing this song, so

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Speaker 2: I like doing I like Chris.

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01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 5: I like Chris.

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01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 11: It's one Chris Stables and song.

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Speaker 5: I like, is this a nope?

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Speaker 7: OK?

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Speaker 2: I don't even think Chris is on this? No words anyway.

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Speaker 2: It opens at a theater near you, and as we

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier on, it's one of the hot talking points

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Speaker 2: for being the movie of the year in terms of

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Speaker 2: box office. We're back tomorrow morning from six Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking breakfast. Listen live to

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